1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Our three of Clay and Bucks starts 3 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 1: right now, everybody, and we often talk about the great 4 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 1: sorting that is underway between red and blue states. We 5 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: have Governor Ron de Santis. If you missed it, by 6 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 1: the way, you definitely want to hear it, so you 7 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 1: should subscribe to The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show podcast. 8 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:25,759 Speaker 1: We also have deep dives. I did a deep dive 9 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 1: with Gordon Chang on China earlier this week that is 10 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 1: now up in that feed. You can listen to it, 11 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 1: but that's not going to be on radio only on 12 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:35,199 Speaker 1: the podcast. Second hour of the program today, we talked 13 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 1: to Governor Ron de Santis of Florida and he's both 14 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 1: doing a book tour and a victory lap simultaneously for 15 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 1: the numbers in his state. Fifty year low in crime 16 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 1: in the state of Florida. That's pretty remarkable. And they 17 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 1: also have eight hundred thousand, give or take new residents 18 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 1: in this state of Florida. It's got to be probably 19 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 1: close to twenty one twenty two million people now living 20 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 1: in that state, but crime is going down. Contrast that 21 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 1: with what we see in Chicago, the third largest city 22 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:14,679 Speaker 1: in America, and what's going on with their crime rate. 23 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 1: Let's see where we are right now. In twenty twenty, 24 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 1: the year of the BLM riots, there were seven hundred 25 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 1: and seventy two murders in Chicago alone. That is a 26 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:34,679 Speaker 1: crazy high figure when you think Chicago has two million people. 27 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 1: So New York is four times the size of Chicago, 28 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 1: and that is a higher per capita murder rate by 29 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 1: the numbers than New York would have had in its 30 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 1: absolute worst year in nineteen ninety. So at New York's 31 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 1: absolute worst going back now thirty years, Chicago in twenty 32 00:01:57,880 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: twenty was worse, and it hasn't gotten a whole lot 33 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 1: better by the numbers either. Just last year, Clay, Chicago 34 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:08,360 Speaker 1: had six hundred and ninety five homicides, just shy of 35 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 1: seven hundred murders, And you saw one nearly yourself. Buck, 36 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 1: You'd never been to Chicago, and you and your then 37 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 1: fiance went there and write at one of the main 38 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 1: tourist attractions, there was a murder right after you left. 39 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 1: I feel like I had this this real Chicago experience 40 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 1: in a sense, because I'm there with with Carrie. We 41 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:32,360 Speaker 1: obviously we were actually we hadn't gotten engaged yet, but 42 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 1: but yes, my now wife and i'd never been to 43 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: Chicago before, which I know was crazy because I've you know, 44 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 1: I've been to Baghdad multiple times. You feel like I 45 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 1: probably could make my way to Chicago. And it's beautiful. 46 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 1: It's an amazing city. I mean, the downtown is awesome, 47 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:50,799 Speaker 1: the architecture, the history, the food, the Chicago River, it's 48 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 1: so there's so much good stuff. And you know, you 49 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 1: get to like Michigan and the and the park, and 50 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 1: I mean, I was doing the whole tourist thing and 51 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 1: I'm at the Bean, the Silver being within Millennium Park. 52 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:04,519 Speaker 1: It's a gorgeous day, and I look at Karen, I say, 53 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 1: this place is pretty great. You know, maybe the crime 54 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 1: thing isn't as bad as we've been led to believe. 55 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:10,799 Speaker 1: We're sitting at dinner. Maybe an hour hour and a 56 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 1: half later, a murder happened at the Bean. At the 57 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 1: means someone was shot and killed right where we were standing, 58 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 1: within a hundred yards or where we had that conversation 59 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 1: an hour later, So you know, yeah, you could say 60 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:24,799 Speaker 1: that's just anecdotal, but what are the chances. Okay, there's 61 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 1: obviously huge problem with crime in Chicago, and this brings 62 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:32,080 Speaker 1: me clay to the mayor's race. We've seen some heavy 63 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 1: hitters on the Democrat side go down in elections. Recently, 64 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 1: Gavin Newsom managed to keep his job. But you've obviously 65 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 1: had some prosecutors, some mayors who have found out that 66 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 1: there are limits, right, there are limits to how poorly 67 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 1: you can run a city. You had Chessi Boudan in 68 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 1: San Francisco got booted as a prosecutor. There's an effort 69 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 1: to get rid of Larry Kraszer in Philadelphia. Lori Lightfoot. 70 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 1: I think you'd have to say, now from some other 71 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 1: cities may argue on this point, that's fun. But for 72 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 1: a city of Vetsize, she's the worst mayor in America. 73 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 1: I think that's fair to say. You know that she 74 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 1: won election with seventy three percent of the vote. I 75 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 1: didn't know that three percent of the vote. And now 76 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 1: there are nine people total running. It's likely to go 77 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 1: to a runoff. But every single one of the people 78 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 1: who are running as a Democrat, you have to wonder. 79 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 1: I mean, I would want to ask the people of Chicago, 80 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 1: what is more important than putting somebody in charge who 81 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:32,280 Speaker 1: takes public safety seriously and is going to back police 82 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:33,840 Speaker 1: and bring the crime right down. Like, what could be 83 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 1: a more important reason to cast your vote as a 84 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 1: Chicago in than that. It's a good point too, as 85 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 1: you mentioned that nine all nine are Democrats. Lorie Lightfoot 86 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 1: may not even make the runoff. We'll find out tonight. 87 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:51,600 Speaker 1: Some of the polling obviously regular caveats surrounding polling. Some 88 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:53,600 Speaker 1: of the polling suggests she's not even in the top 89 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:57,159 Speaker 1: three contenders right now. That's how little of support she 90 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 1: will have. So we'll see whether she makes the runoff. 91 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 1: Big picture question for the Midwest, Buck, we know that 92 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:06,040 Speaker 1: the election is going to be decided there in twenty 93 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 1: twenty four. Probably how it did Illinois become the only 94 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 1: really died in the wool reliable blue state in the 95 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 1: entire Midwest? Is it kind of interesting? Right? Like You've 96 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:24,919 Speaker 1: got Michigan, which Trump won in sixteen. You've got Minnesota 97 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 1: which Trump nearly won, very competitive, Pennsylvania which is very competitive, 98 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 1: Indiana and Ohio or died in the wool red Iowa. 99 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:38,719 Speaker 1: I'm talking about big ten states. Now, Iowa I'll toss 100 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 1: into that equation as well. Illinois is the only state 101 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 1: in the middle part of the country, right take away 102 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 1: from the coast, the only state in the middle part 103 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 1: of the country where you can be like, there's no 104 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:54,600 Speaker 1: way it's not voting blue. And I know Chicago is 105 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 1: a big part of that. Chicago's third biggest city in 106 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:59,720 Speaker 1: the United States after New York in LA And I'm 107 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:02,919 Speaker 1: sure Chicago dominates to a certain extent the overall voting 108 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 1: patterns of Illinois. But isn't that kind of crazy that 109 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 1: Illinois in the entire middle part of the country, all 110 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 1: for of all states that are not on a coast, 111 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:17,160 Speaker 1: Illinois is the most reliably blue in the country. And 112 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 1: I'm not even sure what the second. Maybe Minnesota you 113 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 1: would say, is the second most reliably blue in the 114 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 1: country off the coast. It's kind of wild, isn't it, 115 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 1: that it standing alone, is not competitive and not even 116 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 1: open to the idea of voting Republican. I mean, certainly 117 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:36,839 Speaker 1: you can look at the history of American progressivism and 118 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 1: you'll take it all the way back to Wisconsin. Actually, 119 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 1: Wisconsin was a hotbed of progressivism in the early twentieth century. 120 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:47,840 Speaker 1: But to your point, it's obviously a state that can 121 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 1: go red or blue. Illinois is just is written off 122 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 1: every single presidential election. It's going blue, there's no question. 123 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 1: I think Chicago accounts for about twenty five percent of 124 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: the population of the state, so that's obviously. But doesn't 125 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 1: that kind of surprise you that every other state other 126 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 1: than on the coast is in theoretically could go red 127 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 1: or blue. Illinois is the bluest of any state that 128 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 1: is other than the coast. Yeah, and Springfield, I think 129 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 1: is I've been to Springfield, Illinois. It's I think it's 130 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 1: almost a red. I think it's fifty fifty. It's almost red. 131 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 1: So the cap but it's not that big of a city. 132 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 1: But so that you do have some other places, other 133 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 1: population centers that are more of a toss up. But look, 134 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 1: I just would want to see why would anybody think 135 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 1: that that Lori Lyfort will do a better job the 136 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 1: second time around. I do believe that a big part 137 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 1: of her appeal to the progressive Democrat vote in Chicago 138 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 1: the first time around falls under the diversity and an 139 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: identity politics component of not just being the first black 140 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:56,239 Speaker 1: female mayor of Chicago, the first black female LGBTQ plus 141 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 1: mayor of Chicago. I think that they're I mean, they 142 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 1: were selling reading that. Obviously that was considered some major 143 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 1: milestone for the city of Chicago. But now they've seen 144 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 1: the results, and you have to wonder, why would anyone 145 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 1: expect the results to be different if they gave her 146 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 1: another term. She has been She was elected play on 147 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 1: a platform largely of reforming corruption in the police force. 148 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: Oh okay, the police were the pro a city that 149 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 1: has gun violence stretching back for decades. The problem is 150 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 1: we haven't been hard enough on the cops. This is 151 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 1: a fallacy from progressives. I'm curious how this plays out 152 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 1: because I think that she is almost assuredly going to lose. 153 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 1: And if she is almost assuredly going to lose, my 154 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:49,199 Speaker 1: question would be, is this going to be seen as 155 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 1: a shot at the diversity and inclusion mafia? I think 156 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 1: it's fairy called like a mafia because Biden was bragging 157 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 1: yesterday if you saw it, buck about, this is the 158 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 1: most diverse cabinet that's ever existed. And I saw a 159 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:06,959 Speaker 1: good ad that was put out by Stephen Miller's group 160 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 1: and it really brought it home. Do you ever walk 161 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 1: onto an airplane and think, man, I hope the pilots 162 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 1: are really diverse here. Or if you're rushing into a 163 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: hospital because you've got somebody injured in your family, do 164 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 1: you think, oh, man, I hope they have a really 165 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 1: diverse er staff here, or do you think I want 166 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 1: the best damned person flying this plane or taking care 167 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 1: of my injured family member. And the reason why I 168 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:38,680 Speaker 1: bring that up is there has been this diversity inclusion 169 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:42,200 Speaker 1: mafia where oh, we have to have Lori Lightfoot in 170 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 1: the mayor's office because she's a black lesbian, And then 171 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 1: you're like, Okay, that's fine, But then she gets in 172 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 1: and does an awful job, and I wonder if that's 173 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 1: going to destroy some of this cosmetic theater aspect of 174 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 1: let's pick the best person for the job, regardless of 175 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:01,439 Speaker 1: what their background is. From a pure identity politics perspective, 176 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 1: this obviously has come up. This concept has come up 177 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:09,959 Speaker 1: in the context of airline pilots and air traffic controllers 178 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:11,680 Speaker 1: and some of the issues that we've seen recently. I 179 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 1: know Tucker has raised this on his show on Fox. 180 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 1: One of the fundamental problems of the diversity and inclusion 181 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 1: mantra is that you always see this when this is 182 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 1: implemented as the loosening of objective standards to achieve more 183 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 1: diversity and inclusion. Essentially, and maybe the most obvious example 184 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 1: of this, there's a lot of them, would be in 185 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 1: the military. Right you change, Okay, we need more combat 186 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 1: marines who are female. Yeah. The only way you're getting 187 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 1: more combat capable marines who are female at the numbers 188 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 1: they want is to stop caring about how fast can 189 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 1: you run with a pack on you? How accurately can 190 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 1: you fire after marching eight miles? I mean, all of 191 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:59,560 Speaker 1: the basics of infantry tactics and ability. You have to 192 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 1: change the standards. And then what they do is they 193 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 1: change the standards whatever objective metrics the profession has. And 194 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 1: you're a bad person if you say, hold on a second, 195 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 1: you're changing the standards. So that means we're going to 196 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 1: have in the aggregate, a lower quality of candidate in 197 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 1: that arena, in that skill set, in that profession. Right, 198 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 1: you're going to have somebody who is less capable than 199 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:26,559 Speaker 1: you would have if you had a different standard set. Again, 200 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 1: the military context, this is the most clear. The Pentagon 201 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 1: did a huge study of marines and this and what 202 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 1: are to show, I mean catastrophic differences in the combat 203 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:39,959 Speaker 1: capability of male female for deployed units. When the standards 204 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 1: are held the same as a it's a post it. 205 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 1: You know. This is where the cognitive dissonance comes in. 206 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 1: If they're going to make a police force more diverse 207 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:53,319 Speaker 1: and inclusive by making it easier by the numbers and 208 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 1: by the testing and everything else to become a police officer, 209 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 1: eliminating criminal background checks, etc. Whatever it is they're going 210 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 1: to do, well, then you're going to have a less 211 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 1: capable police force, aren't you. Which we then what's the 212 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 1: point of the standards in the first place, which directly 213 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 1: could be argued to tie in to what happened to 214 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 1: Tyree Nichols in Memphis? Right, There is an argument that 215 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 1: the lessening of standards in the Memphis Police Department allowed 216 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:19,440 Speaker 1: those five police officers to be in a position where 217 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 1: they may well, based on the footage we saw, have 218 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:26,200 Speaker 1: committed murder of Tyree Nichols. By the way, how quickly 219 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 1: did that story vanish buck Tyree Nichols video far worse 220 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 1: than in my opinion, the George Floyd video. Right, if 221 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 1: you look at what they did to him, and yes, 222 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 1: it was that was murdered by copy. They beat him, 223 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 1: They beat him, man in custody to death. That is 224 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 1: what happened there. And we saw that right away. Yeah, 225 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 1: and they stopped talking. That has the l No no 226 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 1: marches whatsoever, No, none of that. I mean, sorry. For 227 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:52,440 Speaker 1: twenty four hours there were some marches or the way, 228 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:55,559 Speaker 1: and then then it all faded away. No riots, I 229 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 1: should say, which is a good thing, by the way, 230 00:12:57,240 --> 00:13:00,599 Speaker 1: But it's interesting that the left treats the circumstances so 231 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:04,680 Speaker 1: very differently. You know, I just bring it back to Chicago. 232 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 1: I would want to ask the residents of Chicago what 233 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 1: else has to happen here for you to want somebody 234 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 1: more competent, capable, and who believes in police more and 235 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 1: doesn't play diversity and inclusion politics with every major decision, 236 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:23,720 Speaker 1: especially decisions that involve keeping people alive, public safety, stopping 237 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 1: old ladies of all colors from being mugged, beaten, robbed, 238 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 1: and all people, not just old ladies. What else has 239 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 1: to happen? That's a great question. Maybe we'll find out 240 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 1: some of these results coming in from Chicago tonight. US 241 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 1: News and World Report. You know, they rank all sorts 242 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 1: of things and One of the things they rank is 243 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 1: K to twelve education. According to them, New Jersey's the 244 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 1: top state, followed by Massachusetts, Florida, Washington, and Colorado. On 245 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 1: the other hand, the lowest ranking states, again by US 246 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:58,319 Speaker 1: News and World Report, New Mexico, Alaska, Arizona, Nevada, and Louisiana. 247 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 1: New Mexico is ed last in this study. No matter 248 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 1: where you'll live, public education needs your help, or at 249 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 1: least your interest. Hillsdale's College President Larry Arne, Doctor Larry 250 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:12,200 Speaker 1: Arne shared his observations in a recent copy of Imprimus, 251 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 1: the Hillsdale monthly publication delivered to six million plus homes. 252 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 1: It's worth reading and learning from, so much so that 253 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 1: you'll want to share it with your family and friends. 254 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 1: Let Hillsdale College send you a handful of copies to 255 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 1: share with your friends and family. Special issue provides a 256 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 1: factual account of the issues in the ongoing battle over education. 257 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 1: It's informative and worth your time. Register to get your 258 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 1: free copies of Education as a Battleground by visiting Clay 259 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 1: and Buck four Hillsdale dot com. That's Clay and Buck 260 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 1: four Hillsdale dot com. Clay Travis at Buck Sexton making 261 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 1: sense in an insane world. Welcome back in Clay Travis 262 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton, Show Buck, you're talking about the race that's 263 00:14:56,160 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 1: about to happen in Chicago currently actually happening. People are 264 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 1: voting today for the mayor of Chicago. We'll talk about 265 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 1: what happened there tomorrow. But the DC Police Union Washington 266 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 1: DC tweeted this out over the last twenty hours ago. 267 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 1: Homicide so far this year are up forty percent in 268 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 1: Washington DC over last year. Remember we're talking about elevated 269 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 1: homicide rates allready. Sexual assaults are up a hundred and 270 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 1: twenty three percent, vehicle theft up one hundred and eleven percent, 271 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 1: all crime up twenty five percent. They are having a 272 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 1: real difficulty getting cops to do the job there. This 273 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 1: also is from the one of the members of the 274 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 1: DC Police Union. There were nine murders over the weekend 275 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 1: alone in Washington, DC. And when you start talking, they've 276 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 1: had third five homicides already so far in twenty twenty three, 277 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 1: So we're about to finish off two months. They're up 278 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 1: forty percent. This is not going away. And this is 279 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 1: Joe Biden's backyard right now in Washington, DC, and do 280 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 1: you know how people are responding there. They're not enough cops, 281 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 1: but they are deciding to limit the punishments even more 282 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 1: on the violent predators that they are arresting on DC 283 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 1: city streets. Now, I went to college in DC, but 284 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 1: you were talking about the fact that you lived in 285 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 1: DC and obviously born and raised in New York City. 286 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 1: DC has always been a violent city, but to have 287 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 1: the homicide rate skyrocketing like this is pretty insane. Also, 288 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 1: see that there's a hesitancy from people, I think Clay 289 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 1: and some of these cities to do what would turn 290 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 1: this around, because it would give political, you know, politically 291 00:16:57,480 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 1: useful tools to the other side. Effectively doing what you 292 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 1: think would be what the Republicans want, for example, is 293 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 1: something Democrats just won't do, even if it would save lives. 294 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 1: In the case of Chicago, you know that Vallas, who 295 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:18,439 Speaker 1: is the main one of the main opponents of lorry Lyfefoot, 296 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 1: she keeps saying he's a Democrat, she keeps calling him 297 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:23,360 Speaker 1: a Republican. This is the way. And so you see 298 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 1: in a lot of these Democrat controlled cities there's a 299 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:30,679 Speaker 1: hesitancy to change course, I think because they realize that 300 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:33,200 Speaker 1: would be an admission. If you're gonna hire more cops, 301 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 1: if you're gonna have the playing close anti crime unit 302 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:37,919 Speaker 1: back on the beat, if you're gonna do these things, 303 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 1: it is a day fact of admission that what your 304 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:43,159 Speaker 1: opponents have been saying in this case, people right of 305 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:46,640 Speaker 1: center were right all along. I think there is an 306 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 1: opportunity now buck for a lot of different city versions 307 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:56,679 Speaker 1: of Rudy Giuliani Chicago, La. Going forward, somebody who is 308 00:17:56,720 --> 00:17:59,360 Speaker 1: a Republican and just says, I'll just fix things. I'll 309 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 1: just make it say for you to be able to 310 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 1: be out in the streets with your family. That's where 311 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:05,160 Speaker 1: we're headed right now. If you've ever received a mysterious 312 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:08,679 Speaker 1: text message email that looks a little off telling you 313 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:12,120 Speaker 1: to click on this issue and you'll solve a problem, 314 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 1: be careful. It could be a cyber hacker. That is 315 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:18,160 Speaker 1: how they are helping to grab so many different identities 316 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 1: out there. It's important to understand how cybercrime and identity 317 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:24,640 Speaker 1: theft are affecting our lives. Your personal info gets exposed 318 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 1: so often can make it dangerously easy for a cyber 319 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:31,920 Speaker 1: criminal to steal your identity. Now, remember, no one can 320 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 1: prevent all identity theft or monitor all transactions at all businesses. 321 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 1: But it's easy to help protect yourself with LifeLock by Norton. 322 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:43,120 Speaker 1: Join now and save five percent off your first year 323 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:47,440 Speaker 1: with the promo code Clay. Go to LifeLock dot com 324 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:51,399 Speaker 1: use promo code Clay for twenty five percent off. Nomocrats 325 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 1: have a habit of doing things from the presidency that 326 00:18:57,160 --> 00:19:00,359 Speaker 1: they have already said they meaning the president doesn't have 327 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 1: a right to do. Barack Obama did this, Joe Biden 328 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 1: has done this, and in one of these instances, well, 329 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 1: I guess Nancy Pelosi was the one who actually said 330 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:12,440 Speaker 1: Biden doesn't have the authority to do this. But it's 331 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:16,920 Speaker 1: a pretty important democrat in a PA. You had a 332 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 1: hearing this morning by the Supreme Court of a case 333 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 1: having to do with student loan forgiveness or the cancelation 334 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 1: of debt. Is really what this is. Loan forgiveness is 335 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 1: the politically expedient term. What it really is is the 336 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 1: Biden administration, because Biden, when he was campaigning for president 337 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty, he said he would cancel at least 338 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:42,440 Speaker 1: ten thousand dollars of student loan debt for qualified borrowers 339 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:45,639 Speaker 1: and then Biden said, actually, it's going to be twenty 340 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 1: thousand dollars for those who qualify, and the pandemic has 341 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 1: become the excuse here that they use the Heroes Act, 342 00:19:56,800 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 1: which was a law passed after September eleven that gave 343 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 1: the Secretary of Education, among many other things in the law, 344 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 1: the ability to use student loan programs so that borrowers 345 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:11,880 Speaker 1: were not in a worse position because of that national 346 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 1: emergency or because of a national emergency. So now it 347 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 1: is the position of the Bid administration that the post 348 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 1: September eleventh hero Z Act allows them to wipe away 349 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:26,119 Speaker 1: basically half a trillion dollars of debt. And now Clay 350 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 1: there are two challenges or from two directions. There have 351 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 1: been legal challenges to this. One is from states, one 352 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:34,879 Speaker 1: is from individuals. States are saying hold on. A second, 353 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:38,160 Speaker 1: by doing this in a number of different capacities, it 354 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:42,880 Speaker 1: affects US financially, meaning the States financially. If you'd just say, yeah, 355 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:45,120 Speaker 1: no more of this money, you don't have to pay 356 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 1: it back. Individuals or one individual as sued that's made 357 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:51,400 Speaker 1: its way up as part of this saying well hold on, 358 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:54,919 Speaker 1: I have commercial student loan debt, so I don't qualify 359 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:57,679 Speaker 1: for the full twenty thousand. I only can get the 360 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 1: ten thousand from the federal government. So there are standing issues, 361 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 1: issues of standing that were raised this morning before the court. 362 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 1: My sense is, oh, and then they get into major 363 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 1: questions doctrine, as in, can the president just be like, 364 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:17,639 Speaker 1: you know what, this isn't a minor administrative thing. This 365 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 1: is a big deal, and I'm just going to decide 366 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 1: instead of having Congress decide that you can just say, 367 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 1: half a trillion dollars of spending, or rather half a 368 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 1: trillion dollars of loans of money owed back to the 369 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:34,200 Speaker 1: federal government just goes away, which really socializes the cost 370 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:38,439 Speaker 1: everybody else in the country. My sense is they're going 371 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:41,200 Speaker 1: to get past the standing issue and you're gonna have 372 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:44,200 Speaker 1: a six three decision here, and once again it will 373 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:49,639 Speaker 1: be an example of Biden executive overreach that gets slapped 374 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 1: down by the court, but no real consequences beyond that. 375 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 1: I think it just shows as clay that they the 376 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:57,479 Speaker 1: attitude of Democrats when they're in power is do as 377 00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 1: much as you can, even if it's on constitution, because 378 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:02,680 Speaker 1: it'll take a long time for it to be seen 379 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 1: as such, and you get the political benefit in the 380 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 1: short term in this case, basically paying off the voters. 381 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:10,959 Speaker 1: It's exactly what's going on here. I think it's going 382 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:14,159 Speaker 1: to be a six to three decision. The standing issue, 383 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 1: and this is something that if you are a law professor, 384 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 1: you would love like you dive into it, because basically, 385 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 1: you have to prove that you can bring a case 386 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 1: in front of the court that you have the standing. 387 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:32,639 Speaker 1: That is the way to easily summarize it to in 388 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 1: some way be rectified by an act for the court. 389 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:37,919 Speaker 1: And so they are trying to argue this is probably 390 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:42,399 Speaker 1: the strongest actual legal argument, is that there isn't someone 391 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 1: who is able or a state that is able to 392 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 1: bring this challenge. What Joe Biden tried to do is 393 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 1: just wipe the slate for five hundred billion dollars in 394 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:58,880 Speaker 1: student loans and basically shift because the debt's not going away, 395 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 1: He's just taking the debt from the individuals and putting 396 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 1: it onto the books of the federal government. And so 397 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 1: this process without any legislative authority is unconstitutional. It's an overreach. 398 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:16,119 Speaker 1: I think that's likely what is going to be happened 399 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:18,640 Speaker 1: when this story happened, Buck. I came on, I said, 400 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:20,159 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court's going to strike this down. This is 401 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,879 Speaker 1: what's gonna how it's gonna break down. But what you 402 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:27,359 Speaker 1: hit on is I think the sort of political calculus 403 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:32,159 Speaker 1: that was involved here. Don't miss what happened right before 404 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:36,919 Speaker 1: the midterms. Joe Biden, knowing that he wanted to drive 405 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:41,160 Speaker 1: up young voters turnout as much as he could, said 406 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 1: I'm giving you an incredible gift. Here's four to five 407 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 1: hundred billion, depending on what estimate you look at that 408 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 1: I'm just taking off of your responsibility. And a bunch 409 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:55,440 Speaker 1: of young people went out and they voted for Joe 410 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:58,360 Speaker 1: Biden because they said, this is Joe Biden taking care 411 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:01,680 Speaker 1: of my generation. And then now it's going to go 412 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:04,200 Speaker 1: to the Supreme Court. Supreme Court's going to strike it down. 413 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:06,399 Speaker 1: Joe Biden is going to come out and what is 414 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 1: he going to say? This is what happens when you 415 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 1: have a conservative Donald Trump appointed Supreme Court. They will 416 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:17,679 Speaker 1: not allow me, good old uncle Joe, to give you 417 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:21,920 Speaker 1: young people the debt relief that you deserve. And that's 418 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 1: why you have to vote for me in twenty twenty four, 419 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 1: because we'll take this to Congress and we'll get this 420 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:31,120 Speaker 1: passed and we'll deliver that debt relief to you. This 421 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:34,440 Speaker 1: is all I mean. Moment it happened, Buck, I said, 422 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 1: this is a masterful political stroke. It's wildly unconstitutional, but 423 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 1: there will be no consequences because they will play it 424 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 1: in twenty two. Maybe it made twenty thousand, two hundred thousand, 425 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:48,919 Speaker 1: two million, I don't know, extra voters go out and 426 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:52,440 Speaker 1: be more likely to vote for the Democrat. And then 427 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four he'll come back and say, I 428 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:57,639 Speaker 1: tried to do it for you, but that awful Donald 429 00:24:57,680 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 1: Trump and his Supreme Court kept me from doing for 430 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 1: doing it for you, But I'll do it for you 431 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 1: next time if you vote for me in twenty four. 432 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 1: That's the story here. That's what's gonna happen. Yeah, it's 433 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 1: a legal laws looming, but a political win in the 434 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:16,160 Speaker 1: making anyway, because ultimately Democrats always run as Santa Clause, 435 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 1: a chubby, garrulous fellow who has lots of free goodies 436 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:24,200 Speaker 1: to give out to everybody that is the Democrat approaches. 437 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:26,400 Speaker 1: We're just going to give you lots of free stuff. 438 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:30,400 Speaker 1: There's all this free and just the big mean, Republicans 439 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 1: stand in the way of all the toys we have 440 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,640 Speaker 1: here in the bag for you. If only we were 441 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 1: in charge, everything would be so much better because of 442 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 1: all the free stuff. Unfortunately that that works a lot 443 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 1: of the time with a lot of people. It's short 444 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:48,160 Speaker 1: term thinking over long term reality. And with the student 445 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 1: loan debt issue, there are so many ways you can 446 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 1: come at this. I mean, one of them is so 447 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 1: the people that have already paid off their debts, you know, 448 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 1: too bad for you. You know you waited to buy 449 00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 1: that house, too bad. You waited to buy that new car, 450 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:02,200 Speaker 1: too bad. You know, you should have waited for Uncle 451 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 1: Joe Biden to show up and give you taxpayer dollars 452 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 1: and to break effectively the contract that people sign when 453 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:12,360 Speaker 1: they get this money for college. So that's a that's 454 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:13,679 Speaker 1: a big part of it. And then there's all the 455 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:15,679 Speaker 1: other debts that people hold. Are the people that forego 456 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 1: college altogether so they can work in a trade and 457 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 1: not be in debt. I went to undergrad to play. 458 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 1: I didn't go to grad school, yeah, because I want 459 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 1: to work in media. Sure. Also, I didn't want to 460 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:29,879 Speaker 1: run up a two hundred and something thousand dollars debt 461 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 1: for an MBA from some fancy school and then hope 462 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:34,440 Speaker 1: that someone pays me enough to pay it off. So, 463 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:36,639 Speaker 1: I mean I looked at this. If someone said you 464 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:38,879 Speaker 1: you could go to get an MBA for free, I 465 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 1: would have probably had a very different feeling about the 466 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 1: whole thing. Or even if they were going to tell 467 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,239 Speaker 1: me tens of thousands of dollars would go toward it, 468 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 1: no questions asked. Yeah, Look, I didn't pay off all 469 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:51,400 Speaker 1: my student loan debts until I was in my upper thirties, 470 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:56,119 Speaker 1: I think. And in a large percentage the data reflects 471 00:26:56,240 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 1: of these forgiven loans actually are grad school loans, so 472 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 1: it's not like somebody who was really struggling to put 473 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 1: themselves through. And I'll just add this will be at 474 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 1: least the third direct overturn of unconstitutional action by Joe 475 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,879 Speaker 1: Biden in the last when it happens in the last 476 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:19,680 Speaker 1: what six months a year? Remember the eviction moratorium, Joe 477 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 1: Biden tried to extend it without congressional authority, it was 478 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 1: shot down the COVID shot mandate, again without congressional authority. 479 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:33,200 Speaker 1: He was trying to use OSHA as the opportunity to 480 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:37,160 Speaker 1: do that, and now he's trying to use I think 481 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:43,920 Speaker 1: it's worth mentioning this emergency as defined from the two 482 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 1: thousand and one Act or whatever. But we're not in 483 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:51,119 Speaker 1: an emergency starting in May. So the COVID emergency, even 484 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 1: by Joe Biden's own definition, effectively ends in May when 485 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 1: he said he's going to wave his magic wand and 486 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:59,200 Speaker 1: suddenly COVID is gone. So this is gonna be three 487 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 1: straight Trump Supreme Court appointed realities that have kept him 488 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,719 Speaker 1: from behaving in an unconstitutional fashion. You laid out all 489 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:11,399 Speaker 1: the times that Biden has acted in an unconstitutional fashion, 490 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 1: which is another way of saying this is abused executive 491 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 1: authority in a way that is unconstitutional, violated the Constitution. 492 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:23,399 Speaker 1: Barack Obama had to be overturned by the Supreme Court 493 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:29,199 Speaker 1: his actions as president thirteen times. Thirteen times. The Obama administration, 494 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 1: you know, took it all the way to the Supreme Court, 495 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 1: saying we have the right to do this in the 496 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 1: Supreme Court, which, by the way, it was a different 497 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 1: court and a more narrowly divided one that even this 498 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 1: one said no, you can't actually do that, like you 499 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 1: can't tell the Senate when the Senate is in session 500 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:44,720 Speaker 1: just because you feel like it, because you're president. I mean, 501 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 1: there are a whole range of things. This is one 502 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 1: that I think Trump does not get enough attention for 503 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 1: and praise. He went three for three with arguably three 504 00:28:56,000 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 1: moonshots on his Supreme Court appointments. I mean, I really 505 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 1: do mean that, because if you look at how squishy 506 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 1: some of the Republican appointees have been in terms of 507 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 1: what you can rely on them doing, Trump stepped into 508 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 1: the batter's box and went yard three straight times. Now, 509 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 1: you can still quibble with some of the individual decisions 510 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 1: at times, but these are three studs he put onto 511 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court. Trump gets. 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Appreciate him coming on the show as always. 550 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 1: You can go subscribe. You can fight back against probably 551 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 1: what we're dealing with on the podcast, which is censorship 552 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 1: because we're spreading misinformation, even though everything we tell you 553 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 1: basically has ended up being correct about COVID. But I 554 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 1: know Buck is a married man now, not only because 555 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 1: I see him and I can see the wedding ring 556 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 1: on all the time, which is good, but also because 557 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 1: he now comes in sometimes before shows and says, hey, 558 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 1: did you see the latest about Prince Harry and Meghan 559 00:31:56,400 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 1: markle oh foul For years on this show that everything 560 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 1: surrounding the royal family was not worthy of discussion. Now 561 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 1: we get look, I saw the numbers on approval ratings 562 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:22,400 Speaker 1: for Meghan Markle and for Prince Harry in the United States, 563 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 1: and they have collapsed on a level that's hard to 564 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 1: even comprehend by and large, and they keep screaming, and 565 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 1: we had some fun with this. South Park did an 566 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 1: amazing job of it. They keep saying, well, we wanted 567 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 1: to move the United States so we could live as 568 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:40,920 Speaker 1: normal people. And then they do a documentary series on Netflix. 569 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 1: Harry releases a book which basically tells every story that's 570 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 1: ever occurred in his entire life. You end up with 571 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:50,960 Speaker 1: Meghan Markle has a podcast. I think maybe they had 572 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:55,400 Speaker 1: a podcast duo and now, which is not something in 573 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 1: general that I would say people who just want to 574 00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:00,280 Speaker 1: be living as normal humans in America would all do. 575 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 1: And now Prince Harry. I thought this was that you 576 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:08,239 Speaker 1: can't even figure out what satire anymore. Prince Harry is 577 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 1: putting for forty nine ninety nine on pay per view. 578 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 1: This is real, right, I mean, I think he is 579 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,200 Speaker 1: doing good. It was like a Babylon B headline. I 580 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 1: was like, there's no way this is real. He's going 581 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:24,520 Speaker 1: to forty nine ninety nine. You're gonna be able to 582 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 1: pay to watch him have a therapy session, uh, dealing 583 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,520 Speaker 1: with some of the difficulties in his life. It's a 584 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 1: heck of a way to do merrital counseling, that's for sure. 585 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:38,080 Speaker 1: Fifty bucks to watch this guy talk about how hard 586 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:42,960 Speaker 1: his light has has been. Um, look, it's it's kind 587 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 1: of amazing to see this continue to play out as 588 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 1: it is. I also now I cannot see Harry and 589 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:56,080 Speaker 1: Megan and not think about wait what privacy? Wait what privacy? 590 00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:59,760 Speaker 1: From the South Park episode, which was amazing. If those 591 00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:01,960 Speaker 1: of you haven't seen it, just just imagine in the 592 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:06,160 Speaker 1: South Park cartoons Harry and Meghan going around with placards 593 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:09,960 Speaker 1: that scream we want privacy, and then going on TV 594 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:13,799 Speaker 1: shows to tell everybody how much privacy they want, and 595 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:17,680 Speaker 1: then playing drums in their front yard shouting we want 596 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 1: privacy while banging the drums. It was, I mean, it 597 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,319 Speaker 1: was the most perfect send up I can think of 598 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,840 Speaker 1: from South Park. I mean, and they obviously were upset 599 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:30,920 Speaker 1: by because it really stung. But you're watching malignant narcissism 600 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 1: play out in real time. I mean, you're watching people 601 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:37,799 Speaker 1: who have been so consumed with themselves that nothing else 602 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,239 Speaker 1: can penetrate. That's where we are so it is kind 603 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:43,640 Speaker 1: of fascinating as a psychological study. Yeah, and it's also 604 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,880 Speaker 1: unfortunate because Harry on some level had to be a relicant. 605 00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:50,080 Speaker 1: You tell me, But I mean he served in Iraq, right, 606 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:54,560 Speaker 1: and I understand Afghanistan maybe it was okay, And I 607 00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:58,279 Speaker 1: understand maybe it's You're still second in line to be 608 00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,359 Speaker 1: the next king, right. So may he's cloistered in some 609 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 1: ways in the military service, different than an average guy 610 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:08,640 Speaker 1: would be in his position, but you would think that 611 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:12,040 Speaker 1: he would be capable of some form of normalcy. And 612 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:15,239 Speaker 1: it feels to me as if every decision that he 613 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:19,200 Speaker 1: and Megan Markle make is being made with the desire 614 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 1: to make people hate them more. And so I wonder 615 00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,399 Speaker 1: is there nobody who can give them decent advice? Are 616 00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:28,920 Speaker 1: they so lost? Is it just her and he's in 617 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:32,399 Speaker 1: a toxic marriage and he's trying to stay with her. 618 00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:35,520 Speaker 1: I just you get the sense, based on the rest 619 00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:38,799 Speaker 1: of the royal family that they hate Megan Markle and 620 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,799 Speaker 1: find her to be an irredeemable And I'm trying to 621 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 1: think of the words which right for lack of a 622 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:47,560 Speaker 1: better term, and I kind of feel like that just 623 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:50,600 Speaker 1: based on the public persona right. I feel like she's 624 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:55,080 Speaker 1: destroyed the relationship between Harry and William, which as a dad, 625 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,080 Speaker 1: you got brothers. I would hate to think my kids 626 00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:00,200 Speaker 1: would hate each other. Was this the plot of all long? 627 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:03,000 Speaker 1: Wait till I get married? Then just ease me into 628 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:06,640 Speaker 1: royal family conversations? Now that you know my wife is 629 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,040 Speaker 1: a tune to these things, and I have to keep 630 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:12,360 Speaker 1: a happy wife. I thought that this would likely occur, 631 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:15,680 Speaker 1: but they don't. Hear are off the air conversations. But 632 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:19,720 Speaker 1: Buck gets engaged, Buck gets married. Suddenly he's watching the Crown. 633 00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:23,080 Speaker 1: He's sliding in here talking about the latest drama with 634 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:26,600 Speaker 1: Harry and Meghan. We got the coronation of King Charles. 635 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,480 Speaker 1: That's happening. I think May sixth I believe that's the 636 00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:32,560 Speaker 1: correct date. Probably will be opening the show talking about 637 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:34,719 Speaker 1: the coronation and what a huge moment it was for 638 00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:40,080 Speaker 1: Great Britain. I still maintain that we fought a war 639 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:42,719 Speaker 1: started in seventeen seventy six, so we would never have 640 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:46,120 Speaker 1: to care about this. I've been backsliding a little bit, Clay, 641 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:48,480 Speaker 1: but I'm working on