WEBVTT - The Rising Wave of US Debt & Fair Value Bitcoin

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, and welcome back to another episode of The Mark

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<v Speaker 1>Moss Show, where we're talking about the world changing as

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<v Speaker 1>a world of decentralization and deglobalization is upon us, and

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<v Speaker 1>we got a lot to cover. I've tried to bring

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<v Speaker 1>to you some education in some of the latest breaking

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<v Speaker 1>news headlines so you can see the signs that play

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<v Speaker 1>by play of how this world is breaking down. And

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<v Speaker 1>so we're gonna talk about what is going on in

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<v Speaker 1>the economy. Everyone's screaming for a recession while the markets

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<v Speaker 1>are high. We're going to talk about some of these

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<v Speaker 1>signs that we have there. We're going to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>this new bill that just got past in bitcoin that

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<v Speaker 1>has massive implications. This is just breaking news. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>talk about what the heck is going on with commodities,

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<v Speaker 1>specifically with oil, what is going on with China. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>We have a lot to cover. We're going to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about what's going on in the US with some big, big,

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<v Speaker 1>big domestic news. Anyway, I got a lot to cover.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't want to miss this. If you do miss

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<v Speaker 1>watch me and listen to me over there. But just

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<v Speaker 1>jumping right in, Like I said, we had some big

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<v Speaker 1>news in the bitcoin space this week, which is the technology,

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<v Speaker 1>the decentralized technology that's really starting to drive massive change

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<v Speaker 1>around the world. And one of the big changes that

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<v Speaker 1>just happened is something called FASB Financial Accounting Standard Board.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, it's a big deal. Bloomberg reported on this

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<v Speaker 1>Bloomberg Tax specifically about these financial accounting standards. And so

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<v Speaker 1>basically as a company, as a corporation, you have to

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<v Speaker 1>follow what's called GAP General Accepted Accounting Principles or whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>and so you have to file this, you have to

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<v Speaker 1>keep your books in a certain order, you have to

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<v Speaker 1>file your reports in a certain order, especially if your

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<v Speaker 1>publicly traded companies. So there's all types of regulations, especially

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<v Speaker 1>especially in the banking sector, but all types of regulations

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<v Speaker 1>that talk about how you can hold assets, how you

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<v Speaker 1>can classify them, how you can value them, how you

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<v Speaker 1>report them, and all these different types of things and

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<v Speaker 1>the way that you're a able to handle and manage

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<v Speaker 1>assets very greatly, and they change the incentives for you

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<v Speaker 1>to want to have those types of assets. So, for example,

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<v Speaker 1>if I can hold a certain type of asset that

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<v Speaker 1>gives me a lot of leverage, I might want to

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<v Speaker 1>hold that for reasons besides just holding it, but also

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<v Speaker 1>I might want to hold an asset but that the

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<v Speaker 1>incentives work against me and I don't want to. So

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<v Speaker 1>let me break this down for you. So for bitcoin

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<v Speaker 1>and other cryptocurrencies, for example, the new rules under this

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<v Speaker 1>Financial Accounting Standards Board, the new rules would allow a

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<v Speaker 1>better reflection of the actual market value of the digital assets,

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<v Speaker 1>as well as bring greater transparency to the financial reporting

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<v Speaker 1>of companies that hold them. Now, these changes aren't in

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<v Speaker 1>effect yet, it's just getting published. They expect to be

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<v Speaker 1>published by the end of this year and then go

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<v Speaker 1>into effect as soon as twenty twenty five, but it

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<v Speaker 1>looks like companies will able to start applying them earlier

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<v Speaker 1>than that. And so basically the old treatment before this

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<v Speaker 1>is that like bitcoin or cryptocurrencies, is an intangible asset,

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<v Speaker 1>which means that if the price went lower than what

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<v Speaker 1>the companies bought it for, then they'd have to take

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<v Speaker 1>an impairment charge on their books, even if they didn't

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<v Speaker 1>sell and so we talked about this a couple weeks

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<v Speaker 1>ago with SpaceX had to mark down the bitcoin that

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<v Speaker 1>they had on their books. So in the old treatment,

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<v Speaker 1>if the prices went down, they had to take this

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<v Speaker 1>impairment charge. They had the negative, but they didn't get

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<v Speaker 1>the positive. If the price went up, they couldn't receive

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<v Speaker 1>any benefit on their books unless they sold it all right,

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<v Speaker 1>So this means so if you're a business, if you're

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<v Speaker 1>a corporation, if you're reporting these numbers, then you want

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<v Speaker 1>to know what your balance sheet has, So that means

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<v Speaker 1>what are the assets on the books. So typically, if

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<v Speaker 1>I'm looking at a publicly traded company, I want to look

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<v Speaker 1>at like what is this company's liquidation value? If I

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<v Speaker 1>bought this company liquidated, how much inventory do they have?

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<v Speaker 1>How much money in the bank do they have? How

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<v Speaker 1>much is the total bye of all their assets? So

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<v Speaker 1>let's say that the total valve of all their assets

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<v Speaker 1>is one hundred million, but I can buy them. I

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<v Speaker 1>could buy the stock for a fifty million. That's a

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<v Speaker 1>pretty good deal. The problem is is that under these

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<v Speaker 1>old accounting rules, you can't use bitcoin or crypto assets

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<v Speaker 1>fair market value. So you bought bitcoin at a dollar

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<v Speaker 1>and now it's worth thirty thousand. You went, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you had one hundred thousand dollars with a bitcoin, now

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<v Speaker 1>you got one hundred million dollars with a bitcoin. You

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<v Speaker 1>can't put the one hundred million on there. And so

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<v Speaker 1>because of that, a lot of these big corporations don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to add it because they only get the negative

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<v Speaker 1>this impairment charge. They have to market down showing that

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<v Speaker 1>they're in a loss, which is what happened to SpaceX,

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<v Speaker 1>but they can't show the upside. So, like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>when bitcoin price plunk surges goes up, the companies aren't

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<v Speaker 1>able to reflect that. So this is a really, really

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<v Speaker 1>big deal. This could make companies. I think it will

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<v Speaker 1>make companies way more likely to add bitcoin to their

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<v Speaker 1>balance sheet and long term holders because now they can

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<v Speaker 1>report the appreciation with they're having to sell anything, so

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<v Speaker 1>they can take little bets today with these bitcoin or

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<v Speaker 1>crypto assets, expecting a big return, and then in the

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<v Speaker 1>future they could report earnings based off of the new

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<v Speaker 1>balance the new asset prices, which could make them look

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<v Speaker 1>like geniuses, which could bolster their balance sheet, which could

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<v Speaker 1>ultimately republic tread company affect their stock price now Michael Saylor,

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<v Speaker 1>the CEO of When now I step down of micro Strategy,

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's still the chairman of the micro Strategy.

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<v Speaker 1>He's one of the biggest bitcoin holders in the world,

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<v Speaker 1>one of the most publicly outspoken Bitcoin advocates in the world,

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<v Speaker 1>and he believes this is massive news. He's been trying

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<v Speaker 1>to get this to go through for a long time,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's a big deal. Some other things I saw

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<v Speaker 1>in the bitcoin space this week. In the crypto space

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<v Speaker 1>this week was really really interesting, and I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to say crypto space, it was specifically in the bitcoin space,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's because of the bitcoin mining. So most of

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<v Speaker 1>the other cryptocurrencies have all moved over to something called

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<v Speaker 1>proof of steak where they don't use mining. And you've

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<v Speaker 1>been seeing over the last couple of years how bitcoin

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<v Speaker 1>mining specifically is this detriment to society, How it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to ruin the environment, how bitcoin is going to use

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<v Speaker 1>more energy than a small country. You're going to use

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<v Speaker 1>all the energy in the world, and how big of

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<v Speaker 1>a deal that is, how bad that is. But we're

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<v Speaker 1>actually seeing I've been reporting for years now, and we're

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<v Speaker 1>already starting to see the shift in the media's narrative

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<v Speaker 1>around this, We're starting to see that actually bitcoin isn't

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<v Speaker 1>bad for the environment. As a matter of fact, it

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<v Speaker 1>could just be the savior. So what do I mean

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<v Speaker 1>by that. Well, over the last several years, you've seen, specifically,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been watching in Texas how there's massive problems with

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<v Speaker 1>the energy system. In Texas. They had the power go

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<v Speaker 1>out in the winter and during a big freeze, and

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<v Speaker 1>it was a big problem. They had to go out

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<v Speaker 1>in the summer when it was too hot, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was a big problem. Last summer happened again, and this

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<v Speaker 1>summer it's just happening again. And what happens is during

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<v Speaker 1>certain times in periods, you need more energy than others.

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<v Speaker 1>Pretty simple. Right in the day when everyone's at work,

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<v Speaker 1>energy use is less. At night, when everybody comes home

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<v Speaker 1>and has to turn their lights on because it's dark,

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<v Speaker 1>energy surges go up. When it's hotter, everyone turns their

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<v Speaker 1>air condition on higher, so you can see that it's

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<v Speaker 1>higher usage changes. But the problem is is that if

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<v Speaker 1>I provide energy, I can't just turn it up and

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<v Speaker 1>down like that. It's not just like a knob that

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<v Speaker 1>I can control. And so what they've been doing is

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<v Speaker 1>they've been creating more base loads so they can produce

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<v Speaker 1>more energy all the time, but then diverting some of

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<v Speaker 1>that load over to bitcoin mining, and whenever they need

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<v Speaker 1>that excess demand, they just shut down the bitcoin mining

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<v Speaker 1>and put the excess demand over there. When it's not needed,

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<v Speaker 1>they push it back to bitcoin mining. And we just

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<v Speaker 1>saw that Texas was teetering on the edge of blackouts

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<v Speaker 1>again as they've been having this heat wave and as

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<v Speaker 1>the demand was squeezing on the grid, and so Texas

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<v Speaker 1>nearly had to start rolling out blackouts, but they didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have to because at nine pm local time, they called

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<v Speaker 1>up the bitcoin mining companies and said, hey, could you

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<v Speaker 1>turn off off your equipment for us please, And they

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<v Speaker 1>did and all that excess demand was able to go

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<v Speaker 1>right back to the grid. I mean, if this isn't

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<v Speaker 1>a wonderful fairy tale story, then I don't know what is.

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<v Speaker 1>Because there is no other solution for this problem without bitcoin.

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<v Speaker 1>Now we see the same thing happening in Iceland. Iceland's

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<v Speaker 1>able to create more energy than it needs, but most

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<v Speaker 1>of it's going to waste. They have all this excess

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<v Speaker 1>energy because when they need to create it for when

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<v Speaker 1>it surges up. But when it doesn't surge up, what

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<v Speaker 1>do they do with it? No one in Iceland wants

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<v Speaker 1>to buy this non guaranteed power. Factories don't want it,

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<v Speaker 1>nobody wants a Households don't want it. No one can

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<v Speaker 1>use it. That's because most power consumers only need it

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<v Speaker 1>when they're online, when they're home. But you know who

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't Bitcoin. So bitcoin minors can jump in and grab

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<v Speaker 1>that excess energy, that wasted energy and use it. And

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<v Speaker 1>so we're starting to see this change the entire world

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<v Speaker 1>that the media narratives changes changed in the world. We

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<v Speaker 1>saw it into Texas, happened, they saved the day. It's

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<v Speaker 1>happening in Iceland, and it's coming to an area near you.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're just tune in, you're listening to the Mark

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<v Speaker 1>Maas Show run through some of the latest breaking news

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<v Speaker 1>headlines this week, so you can stay up to date

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<v Speaker 1>on how this world is changing as we look at

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<v Speaker 1>through the links of politics, finance, and technology. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to come back. I want to talk about what's going

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<v Speaker 1>on in the US economy, what's happening in the global commodities,

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<v Speaker 1>and a whole lot more. You don't want to miss it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be right back in a minute. Don't go away,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll bear back, all right, Welcome back. If you're just

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<v Speaker 1>tune in, you're listening to the Mark Maas Show. We're

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<v Speaker 1>running through some of the latest breaking news headlines this

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<v Speaker 1>week so you can know what the heck is going

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<v Speaker 1>on as the world is going through de globalization or

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<v Speaker 1>as I call it, decentralization, and of course we can

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<v Speaker 1>see this everywhere. I've been talking about for a long

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<v Speaker 1>time and I will continue to talk about a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>Is the rise of this, well, it's deglobalization. It's the

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<v Speaker 1>rise of the challengers to the US homogeny, the US

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<v Speaker 1>dollar standard, of the US international order, whatever you want

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<v Speaker 1>to call it. And of course we see it with

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<v Speaker 1>Russia and China challenging the US order. They've been de

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<v Speaker 1>dollarizing for over a decade now. But now we have

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<v Speaker 1>the rise of the bricks. And there's some very very

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<v Speaker 1>interesting things if you know where to kind of look

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<v Speaker 1>between the weeds and see what the heck is going on.

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<v Speaker 1>And really, when you look at things, if you really

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<v Speaker 1>understand things at their first principles level, at their base level,

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<v Speaker 1>from a philosophical level, you know that energy is the

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<v Speaker 1>most important thing in the world. Without energy, nothing happens.

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<v Speaker 1>Life doesn't happen, Plants don't grow, animals don't grow, we

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<v Speaker 1>don't live. So everything comes down to energy, and the

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<v Speaker 1>law of energy states that energy cannot be created, it

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<v Speaker 1>can only be transferred. So energy from the ground transfers

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<v Speaker 1>to a plant. When the cow eats that plant, the

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<v Speaker 1>energy is transferred to the cow. When I eat the cow,

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<v Speaker 1>that energy is transferred to me. And when I think

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<v Speaker 1>and type on the computer, that energy is transferred. So

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<v Speaker 1>we transfer where its transferring. Oil has been the base

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<v Speaker 1>of that, and you can look back through history and

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<v Speaker 1>see that the nations that have the oil have been

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<v Speaker 1>the ones that been the most prosperous and have been

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<v Speaker 1>able to control kind of the world. And that's why

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<v Speaker 1>the US dollars maintained its global homogyny because of the

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<v Speaker 1>Petro dollar, the agreement that was found that started with

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<v Speaker 1>Saudi Arabia in nineteen seventy four to always price dollars

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<v Speaker 1>in oil. But all of that's being threatened now because

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<v Speaker 1>of the bricks nations, and so Russia part of the bricks,

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<v Speaker 1>the r and the bricks Saudi Arabia, who's now a

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<v Speaker 1>new entrance into the bricks are now, you know, some

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<v Speaker 1>of the largest oil producers in the world, and they're

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<v Speaker 1>deciding that they don't want to keep pumping out their

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<v Speaker 1>scarce resources out into the world in exchange for US

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<v Speaker 1>dollar treasuries that are just losing value, and so they've

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<v Speaker 1>been deciding to reduce the amount of oil they're producing.

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<v Speaker 1>As a matter of fact, Saudi Arabia has extended its

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<v Speaker 1>voluntary cut of one million barrels per day until the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the year. Now, a lot of this pushed

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<v Speaker 1>oil prices up, which then in turn push all energy

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<v Speaker 1>prices up, which then in turn pushed every single price up.

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<v Speaker 1>The Bite administration tried to counteract it, and not tried

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<v Speaker 1>to they did. They were able to counteract that by

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<v Speaker 1>dumping our strategic petroleum reserves, so they drained them. As

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<v Speaker 1>a matter of fact, the petroleum reserves are now at

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<v Speaker 1>the lowest levels they've been in forty years, following last

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<v Speaker 1>year's record drawdowns. At the same time, US production of

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<v Speaker 1>oil is at an all time As a matter of fact,

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<v Speaker 1>US produced twelve point eight million barrels per day of

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<v Speaker 1>crude oil in June, matching its production from pre pandemic

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<v Speaker 1>back to February of twenty twenty. But even with the

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<v Speaker 1>US's increased production and the draining of the SPR, we're

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<v Speaker 1>seeing that the oil prices are going back up. They're

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<v Speaker 1>up to a new one year high this week, and

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<v Speaker 1>it looks like it's going to continue moving higher now.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I said, in the past, the US has been

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<v Speaker 1>dumping d SPR patroleum reserve into the market to bring

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<v Speaker 1>you dump more supply to bring the price down. But

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<v Speaker 1>the problem is, like I said, that it's running low.

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<v Speaker 1>As a matter of fact, that the lowest since nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>eighty three. So what are they gonna do. We're already

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<v Speaker 1>maxing out the amount of oil we can produce. We've

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<v Speaker 1>already dumped pretty much everything that we can into the market.

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<v Speaker 1>But the problem is is that no matter how much

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<v Speaker 1>we dump into the market, which we run out of,

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<v Speaker 1>no matter how much we produce, Russia, Saudi Arabia, Iran,

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<v Speaker 1>they just turned theirs down. You see. They can play

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<v Speaker 1>this game for a lot longer than we can, and

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<v Speaker 1>so we're not really able to control the price of energy.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's a problem. And it's a problem because, as

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<v Speaker 1>I said, when the price of energy goes up everything

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<v Speaker 1>goes up. You know that food that you went eat

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<v Speaker 1>at Chipotle and picked up at your grocery store, It

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<v Speaker 1>had to be driven there, and it probably had to

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<v Speaker 1>be shipped on a plane or a boat to get there,

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<v Speaker 1>and it probably had to be dug out of the

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<v Speaker 1>ground with a tractor. And all of those things require energy.

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<v Speaker 1>And so when the price of energy goes up, everything

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<v Speaker 1>goes up, and energy is going up. Now again, the

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<v Speaker 1>treat petrol reserves are not just dwindled down to their

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<v Speaker 1>lowest level, but they're dangerously low. And so now we're

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<v Speaker 1>in a situation where the US is actually now trying

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<v Speaker 1>to refill them and buy more oil. As a matter

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<v Speaker 1>of fact, the Department of Energy, the DOE, purchased three

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<v Speaker 1>million barrels of crude oil for the spr for delivery

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<v Speaker 1>in August. The average price per barrel was seventy three dollars,

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<v Speaker 1>which is lower than the average price of ninety five

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<v Speaker 1>dollars per barrel that the oil is sold for last year.

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<v Speaker 1>So they did okay. They sold it for about ninety

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<v Speaker 1>five bucks. They bought it back for in the seventies.

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<v Speaker 1>Not a bad trade. They are purchasing this from Exon

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<v Speaker 1>Chevron Marathon Valero not bad. I don't know if that's

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<v Speaker 1>a good strategy. I don't think the Biden administration should

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<v Speaker 1>be trying to trade the oil that we have, but

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<v Speaker 1>so far it worked. Now, they had originally said they

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<v Speaker 1>were going to buy oil when it was in the

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<v Speaker 1>seventy dollars range. They sort of missed that, but they

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<v Speaker 1>are buying three They did buy three million barrels oil.

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<v Speaker 1>But here's the problem. You see, in order to get

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<v Speaker 1>prices to come down, they were selling it to increase

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<v Speaker 1>the supply. But the problem is Saudi Arabis and Russia says, well,

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<v Speaker 1>then we'll just turn down our supply, will counteract that.

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<v Speaker 1>So now we're in a period where they're turning down

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<v Speaker 1>their supply and now the spr has to be refilled.

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<v Speaker 1>So what happens with that? Well, if you want to

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<v Speaker 1>know what I think, I think it means more inflation ahead.

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<v Speaker 1>I think oil continues to go up. I think that

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<v Speaker 1>inflation continues to go up. And this is a big

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<v Speaker 1>problem now, as I always say, nothing goes up or

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<v Speaker 1>down in a straight line. Now, a lot of the

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<v Speaker 1>headlines that you saw basically illustrated that they just didn't

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<v Speaker 1>understand what they were saying, so, for example, you saw

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<v Speaker 1>headlines of the last month or two oil's crashing. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>the last several months, six eight months, oil's crashing. As

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<v Speaker 1>a matter of fact, it's the reason high inflation has

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<v Speaker 1>come back down to where it is. I've broken this

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<v Speaker 1>down many times. If you look at the CPI basket,

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<v Speaker 1>the Consumer Price Index, you can see that it's broken

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<v Speaker 1>down by food and shelter and energy and things like that,

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<v Speaker 1>and you can see that it was just energy that

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<v Speaker 1>was coming down. Nothing else was really coming down. It

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<v Speaker 1>was just energy. And the reason why is because when

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<v Speaker 1>the Russia Ukraine War kicked off and the sanctions were

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<v Speaker 1>placed on Russia, the whole world thought, we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>go into this massive supply problem where all that Russian

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<v Speaker 1>energy would come off the market, and so the price

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<v Speaker 1>is shot up in advance of that, and we went

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<v Speaker 1>from about eighty ninety dollars a barrel up to about

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<v Speaker 1>one point fifty. But then pretty soon, very quickly, the

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<v Speaker 1>world sort of realized, well, none of these sanctions at

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<v Speaker 1>the US or the G seven placed on them, or

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<v Speaker 1>NATO placed on them worked. Caps on Russian oil didn't work.

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<v Speaker 1>The Russian oil is still going to market, and so

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<v Speaker 1>the prices just came back down to where they were

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<v Speaker 1>before all this happened. So all these headlines that you

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<v Speaker 1>saw where it's plunging, it's crashing, No, it was just

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<v Speaker 1>returning back to where it was before it had artificially

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<v Speaker 1>spiked based off of an assumption that never came to

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<v Speaker 1>be true. So now we're back into normal territory and

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<v Speaker 1>now it's going back up. Now. In addition to this,

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<v Speaker 1>again you always have to just think about supply and demand.

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<v Speaker 1>It's actually pretty simple. Now, it's not simple to understand

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<v Speaker 1>all the dynamics that make up supply and demand. But

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<v Speaker 1>I saw this week more headlines that the United States

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<v Speaker 1>decided to close more oil and gas permits to drill

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<v Speaker 1>for oil and gas that were given under the Trump administration.

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<v Speaker 1>So Trump opened it up, we could increase the supply,

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<v Speaker 1>and again the Bide administration is shutting them down. So

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<v Speaker 1>if we continue to shut down the supply side, the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of the world cuts down the supply side, and

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<v Speaker 1>the US has to be a buyer to fill up

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<v Speaker 1>the sprs. And turns out you and I still need

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<v Speaker 1>energy to live. Turns out we still need to ship

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<v Speaker 1>food around the world. Turns out. So what happens and

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<v Speaker 1>that's the price going up. You got that good thing.

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<v Speaker 1>You're figured that out right. If you're just tuning in

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<v Speaker 1>us into the Mark Maas Show, I'm breaking down the

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<v Speaker 1>latest news headlines of this week. I got a lot

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<v Speaker 1>more to cover, but I gotta take quick break. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>be right back. Don't go away, all right, welcome back.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're just tune in, you're listening to the Marcomas Show.

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<v Speaker 1>We're talking through some of the latest breaking news headlines

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<v Speaker 1>this week, so you can understand what is going on

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<v Speaker 1>in the world through the lens of politics, finance, and technology.

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<v Speaker 1>And I want to dig into the economy for a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit here. It's a sort of a tale of

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<v Speaker 1>two markets, if you will. Right where we see that

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<v Speaker 1>there's all these signs that the economy is not doing

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<v Speaker 1>good and we're headed forward recession. But then we see

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<v Speaker 1>all these other signs that looks like the economy is

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<v Speaker 1>really good. We see signs. Well, when you see the

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<v Speaker 1>economy not doing good and potentially going to recession, then

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<v Speaker 1>why is the markets doing so good? The equities, the stocks,

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<v Speaker 1>but then the bond markets are looking bad. So we're

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<v Speaker 1>seeing this like a bipolar viewpoint in both the economy

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<v Speaker 1>and the markets. And I say that in two separate things, right,

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<v Speaker 1>the economy and the markets. We're breaking these apart. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's important to understand this piece because you have to

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<v Speaker 1>realize that the economy is not the market now. It

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<v Speaker 1>should be it used to be. Because if an economy

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<v Speaker 1>is doing good, meaning you know, people have money, people

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<v Speaker 1>are buying, and you know everyone's happy, everyone's spending money,

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<v Speaker 1>then I'm spending money at stores, buying goods and services,

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<v Speaker 1>which means then those businesses do better in their reporting,

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<v Speaker 1>they post higher revenues, higher profits, and then it pushes

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<v Speaker 1>the stock prices up. That's how it's supposed to work,

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<v Speaker 1>but we became detached from reality over the last decade

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<v Speaker 1>or so when we kind of went to this era

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<v Speaker 1>of free money where the stocks that do the best

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<v Speaker 1>are ones that don't even make any money, which is

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<v Speaker 1>kind of weird, but really where the disconnect happened was

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty twenty and during the pandemic, we saw like

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<v Speaker 1>literally the entire economy shut down, like literally, businesses that

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<v Speaker 1>have been around for decades were forced to close, stores

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<v Speaker 1>were forced to close, and so the economy just completely cratered,

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<v Speaker 1>but the markets took off to new all time highs.

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<v Speaker 1>And so now we see this two separate things. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's important at least for me to think about these

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<v Speaker 1>things separately, because the markets do not equally the economies.

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<v Speaker 1>So the economy could crash again, but it doesn't necessarily

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<v Speaker 1>mean the markets will. They could, doesn't mean they have to.

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<v Speaker 1>So if we look at the economy, like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>there's there's a lot of bipolar signs that we're looking at. So,

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<v Speaker 1>for example, the economy seems great. We have some of

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<v Speaker 1>the lowest lowest unemployment that we've seen in decades. That's great.

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<v Speaker 1>We are seeing that, you know, stores, retailers, companies are

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<v Speaker 1>still reporting record earnings, record revenues, record earnings. Consumers are buying.

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<v Speaker 1>Sentiment is great. So that looks good. But if you

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<v Speaker 1>dig under the hood a little bit, which is what

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<v Speaker 1>you should be doing, we can also see that while yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>while people, while consumers are buying, we can see that

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<v Speaker 1>their savings are getting depleted at a very rapid rate,

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<v Speaker 1>which look at the money supply, we can see that

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<v Speaker 1>their credit card debt, consumer debt is skyrocketing through the roof,

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<v Speaker 1>and so it looks like savings them been depleted, and

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<v Speaker 1>all of this spending that looks like the economy is

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<v Speaker 1>good is happening off of debt. And the problem is

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<v Speaker 1>is that debt runs out. And it's not just that

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<v Speaker 1>debt runs out, it's that debt runs out, and it

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<v Speaker 1>also has to be repaid, and it has to be

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<v Speaker 1>repaid from future earnings. And so what this does is

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<v Speaker 1>it really impairs the future. Now, if that's not bad enough,

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<v Speaker 1>what we can see is that it's already starting to

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<v Speaker 1>get to a very dangerous point. As a matter of fact,

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<v Speaker 1>we saw this week headlines came out that delinquencies for

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<v Speaker 1>credit card payments and auto loans are skyrocketing. As a

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<v Speaker 1>matter of fact, the default rate for credit card payments

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<v Speaker 1>and consumer loans are at their highest levels in a decade.

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<v Speaker 1>We can see that more and more consumers are missing

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<v Speaker 1>payments on their household debt, and it gets even worse

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<v Speaker 1>for the first time ever. According to the Washington Post,

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<v Speaker 1>Americans are on the hook for more than one trillion

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<v Speaker 1>dollars in credit card debt and the delinquency rate is

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<v Speaker 1>almost four percent according to Moodies. Now you have good

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<v Speaker 1>debt and bad debt. Let me table that I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>come back to that. We have five point four percent

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<v Speaker 1>of consumer loans and three point six percent of auto

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<v Speaker 1>loans are also late. Now that's credit cards, consumer loans,

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<v Speaker 1>and auto loans. Now, auto loans at least there's an

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<v Speaker 1>asset there. So you have the car. The problem is

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<v Speaker 1>the car is going down faster than you're paying the

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<v Speaker 1>debt down. But your credit card debt and most consumer

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<v Speaker 1>loans are for stuff that you don't have anymore. There's

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<v Speaker 1>no there's no asset there. Now to add insult to injury,

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<v Speaker 1>so to speak, the average credit card interest rate is

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<v Speaker 1>roughly twenty one percent. Now that that's a massive rate.

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<v Speaker 1>If you put that into sort of some frame of reference,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like doubling every three or four years at that rate.

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<v Speaker 1>So every three and a half years your debt doubles.

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<v Speaker 1>How are you going to pay that back? Now, it's

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<v Speaker 1>important to understand that there's two types of debt. There's

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<v Speaker 1>good debt and there's bad debt. There's productive debt and

0:23:16.000 --> 0:23:22.440
<v Speaker 1>there's destructive debt. Consumer debt, consumer loans, credit cards. That's destructive.

0:23:22.840 --> 0:23:24.760
<v Speaker 1>You spend the money on a vacation, you spend the

0:23:24.800 --> 0:23:28.359
<v Speaker 1>money going out to eat. There's nothing behind that debt.

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<v Speaker 1>You just have the debt. You're paying twenty one percent interest,

0:23:31.720 --> 0:23:34.080
<v Speaker 1>and that means the debt is doubling every three and

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<v Speaker 1>a half years. And it's not just those We see

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<v Speaker 1>that Americans are so strapped for cash that they're resorting

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<v Speaker 1>to now, these buy now, Paid Later options BNPL. You

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<v Speaker 1>might have heard about this before. It's when you go

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<v Speaker 1>shopping on your favorite e commerce website and then at

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<v Speaker 1>check out you have this option to buy now, pay later.

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<v Speaker 1>These programs have gotten all the rage. They've been going

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<v Speaker 1>really fast, and they work well. I suppose right for

0:23:57.480 --> 0:24:00.280
<v Speaker 1>larger purchases that you can't afford, like a you know,

0:24:00.320 --> 0:24:04.320
<v Speaker 1>like a TV, or furniture things like that, but I

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<v Speaker 1>see them for all types of things. I see them

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<v Speaker 1>for low ticket items that you should able to just

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<v Speaker 1>pay outright, Why would you defer the payments on that.

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<v Speaker 1>As a matter of fact, lending Tree found that twenty

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<v Speaker 1>one percent of respond and say that they're using these

0:24:17.119 --> 0:24:21.560
<v Speaker 1>buy now, Paid later loans just to buy groceries. We

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<v Speaker 1>see when you're using your credit cards, when you're using

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<v Speaker 1>these buy now, pay later programs just to buy food. Unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a bad sign for the economy. And like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>there's good debt and bad debt. When you're buying it

0:24:33.560 --> 0:24:36.320
<v Speaker 1>for food, that's bad debt. Now, for the past decade,

0:24:36.320 --> 0:24:41.719
<v Speaker 1>consumer spending has increased each holiday season, and researchers are

0:24:41.720 --> 0:24:45.479
<v Speaker 1>expecting more growth ahead. Well, we see it. We don't know,

0:24:46.720 --> 0:24:49.240
<v Speaker 1>but we do know that it's getting more and more

0:24:49.280 --> 0:24:52.000
<v Speaker 1>expensive to live off credit cards. We can see that

0:24:52.080 --> 0:24:56.359
<v Speaker 1>savings rates are going down. We can see so we

0:24:56.400 --> 0:25:00.800
<v Speaker 1>see these all over. So what gives what's the tail

0:25:00.840 --> 0:25:05.160
<v Speaker 1>of the market. Well, and we also know that right now,

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<v Speaker 1>historically unemployment rate is still very low. It's gone from

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<v Speaker 1>three point five percent up to three point eight percent.

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<v Speaker 1>It's still under four percent, which is historically low, but

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<v Speaker 1>it is the highest level that we've seen in about

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<v Speaker 1>a year and a half right now. We also know

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<v Speaker 1>that unemployment is a what we call a lagging indicator,

0:25:23.600 --> 0:25:25.920
<v Speaker 1>so it doesn't really tell us what's about to happen.

0:25:25.960 --> 0:25:28.320
<v Speaker 1>It typically tells what already happened. And the reason why

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<v Speaker 1>is because most employers or business owners don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>lay people off. It's hard to find good people, so

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<v Speaker 1>you try to make every cut that you can. You

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<v Speaker 1>probably go without your own pay for a while before

0:25:38.440 --> 0:25:41.720
<v Speaker 1>you let people go. So it's like the last ditch resort.

0:25:42.119 --> 0:25:43.960
<v Speaker 1>And so that's why it's a lagging indicator. But we

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<v Speaker 1>also did see which I thought was pretty interesting, the

0:25:45.960 --> 0:25:49.920
<v Speaker 1>labor force participation rate actually went up. It's at sixty

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<v Speaker 1>two point eight percent. It's the highest level since the

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<v Speaker 1>pandemic began in February of twenty twenty. And so you

0:25:55.600 --> 0:25:59.760
<v Speaker 1>have unemployment only measures the people that are looking for work,

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<v Speaker 1>a real gimmicky, you know, it's a way that the

0:26:03.560 --> 0:26:06.680
<v Speaker 1>government can lie about the data. Basically, so unemployment tells

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<v Speaker 1>you the the how many people don't have jobs who

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<v Speaker 1>want jobs. The labor force participation rates a better number

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<v Speaker 1>because it tells you of the working age population how

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<v Speaker 1>many of them are working, And so it rose. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a sixty two point almost sixty three percent. But that

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<v Speaker 1>means that thirty two percent are not working able bodied

0:26:29.680 --> 0:26:31.680
<v Speaker 1>of the correct age decide they don't want to work.

0:26:32.080 --> 0:26:35.000
<v Speaker 1>And so while that's getting better, it's still pretty low.

0:26:35.440 --> 0:26:37.280
<v Speaker 1>But this is where we're at. This is the tale

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<v Speaker 1>of two markets. Right now, everything looks great. Companies are

0:26:42.040 --> 0:26:46.960
<v Speaker 1>reporting better earnings, better revenues. The markets are strong. Unemployment's good,

0:26:47.200 --> 0:26:49.720
<v Speaker 1>but what we can see is that it's coming off

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<v Speaker 1>of the back of savings being drained down, and it's

0:26:55.680 --> 0:26:59.360
<v Speaker 1>coming off of the back of credit card debt. That's

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<v Speaker 1>not good. If you're tuning in, you listening to the

0:27:01.040 --> 0:27:02.760
<v Speaker 1>Mark Maus Show, I got to take a very quick break,

0:27:02.760 --> 0:27:04.520
<v Speaker 1>but I'm going to come back with more in a second.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't want to miss it, so don't go away.

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<v Speaker 1>I've be'er back. All right, Welcome back. If you're just

0:27:08.640 --> 0:27:10.359
<v Speaker 1>tune in, you're listening to the Mark mass Show, and

0:27:10.359 --> 0:27:12.680
<v Speaker 1>we're running through some of the latest breaking news headlines

0:27:12.680 --> 0:27:15.959
<v Speaker 1>that we saw this week that are literally showing us

0:27:16.000 --> 0:27:18.760
<v Speaker 1>the play by play of how the world is breaking apart,

0:27:18.760 --> 0:27:21.560
<v Speaker 1>the decentralization, the deglobalization, whatever you want to call it.

0:27:22.000 --> 0:27:24.600
<v Speaker 1>And I like to look at through the lens of politics, finance,

0:27:24.800 --> 0:27:28.359
<v Speaker 1>and technology, so you can really bring things into context

0:27:28.440 --> 0:27:30.960
<v Speaker 1>of what's going on. You know, we talked about in

0:27:30.960 --> 0:27:32.639
<v Speaker 1>an earlier segment. I was talking about the law of

0:27:32.720 --> 0:27:37.800
<v Speaker 1>unintended consequences, and really to understand unattended consequences, you kind

0:27:37.800 --> 0:27:40.919
<v Speaker 1>of have to think through first, second, third, fourth, fifth

0:27:41.040 --> 0:27:45.479
<v Speaker 1>order effects. Because most people only think about first order effects. So,

0:27:45.520 --> 0:27:49.840
<v Speaker 1>for example, we have poor people, we should give poor

0:27:49.880 --> 0:27:53.480
<v Speaker 1>people free money. That sounds nice, let's help them out.

0:27:53.480 --> 0:27:56.040
<v Speaker 1>But what happens if we do well? Then they don't

0:27:56.080 --> 0:27:58.919
<v Speaker 1>go work and they become dependent on the system and

0:27:58.960 --> 0:28:01.120
<v Speaker 1>then the game, right, and then and then what happens?

0:28:01.240 --> 0:28:02.439
<v Speaker 1>And then what happens? And so you have to kind

0:28:02.480 --> 0:28:04.240
<v Speaker 1>of ask that question. One of the things that we

0:28:04.280 --> 0:28:09.160
<v Speaker 1>see today is it's I want to say it's comical,

0:28:09.880 --> 0:28:13.000
<v Speaker 1>but it's not. We shouldn't be laughing. But it's sort

0:28:13.040 --> 0:28:14.720
<v Speaker 1>of like one of those things where like I told

0:28:14.720 --> 0:28:16.639
<v Speaker 1>you so, and like now you got to like you

0:28:16.680 --> 0:28:17.840
<v Speaker 1>made your bed and you gotta sleep in and so

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<v Speaker 1>to speak. And what am I talking about specifically, Well,

0:28:21.760 --> 0:28:25.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, these are these are difficult questions and topics

0:28:25.200 --> 0:28:28.200
<v Speaker 1>to talk about. But I think about the immigration problem

0:28:28.200 --> 0:28:29.679
<v Speaker 1>that we have in the United States, and when I

0:28:29.720 --> 0:28:32.800
<v Speaker 1>say immigration problem, that there's a lot to unpack there. Now.

0:28:33.680 --> 0:28:35.560
<v Speaker 1>One of the greatest problems at the US and every

0:28:35.560 --> 0:28:41.320
<v Speaker 1>developed nation has right now is depopulation. And not because

0:28:41.360 --> 0:28:43.360
<v Speaker 1>of Bill Gates or something like that. I'm talking about

0:28:43.440 --> 0:28:45.240
<v Speaker 1>just we have old people and we don't have enough

0:28:45.240 --> 0:28:48.280
<v Speaker 1>young people. Right That's the problem. China's got a real

0:28:48.320 --> 0:28:50.280
<v Speaker 1>big problem. They had thirty years of a one child policy.

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<v Speaker 1>So the United States needs migration. We need people coming

0:28:55.360 --> 0:28:57.280
<v Speaker 1>from other countries if we're going to survive. We're just

0:28:57.320 --> 0:28:59.440
<v Speaker 1>not people. Americans just doren't have enough kids. As a

0:28:59.480 --> 0:29:02.280
<v Speaker 1>matter of fact, we saw we're trying to onshore a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of new manufacturing and in Arizona they're trying to

0:29:05.640 --> 0:29:10.000
<v Speaker 1>build these new TSMC chip manufacturing plants that are from Taiwan,

0:29:10.320 --> 0:29:13.080
<v Speaker 1>but they can't get enough good workers. We just don't

0:29:13.120 --> 0:29:15.520
<v Speaker 1>have smart people. Everybody wants to be a YouTuber, and

0:29:15.600 --> 0:29:17.960
<v Speaker 1>so we don't have these people to work at these plans.

0:29:18.120 --> 0:29:22.000
<v Speaker 1>So we need migrants. We need immigration, but we need

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<v Speaker 1>good We need good immigrants, right, We need people who

0:29:25.240 --> 0:29:27.960
<v Speaker 1>are educated and trained to come in, and so we do.

0:29:28.160 --> 0:29:30.840
<v Speaker 1>The United States is obviously built off immigrants. We have

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<v Speaker 1>the you know, we have more immigrants in the United

0:29:32.840 --> 0:29:34.920
<v Speaker 1>States than any other nation in the world. But then

0:29:34.960 --> 0:29:37.520
<v Speaker 1>we have illegal immigrants. And these are ones who come

0:29:37.560 --> 0:29:39.600
<v Speaker 1>in illegally. They cut the line, they don't go through

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<v Speaker 1>the proper channels and process. And this is a big

0:29:45.000 --> 0:29:48.160
<v Speaker 1>sticking point. Now I could be all for having open

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<v Speaker 1>borders and just let everybody come in if we weren't

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<v Speaker 1>in a welfare state. But the problem is that we are,

0:29:54.480 --> 0:29:56.800
<v Speaker 1>and so we don't just let them come in, but

0:29:56.880 --> 0:29:59.200
<v Speaker 1>we provide them with all the money they need and

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<v Speaker 1>driver's license and voting and social Security that everyone else

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<v Speaker 1>is paid into they did and all these different things,

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<v Speaker 1>and that causes a massive problem. Now you've been hearing

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<v Speaker 1>about the open border that we have on the South.

0:30:10.200 --> 0:30:13.600
<v Speaker 1>Trump obviously was trying to close that border, and even

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<v Speaker 1>though he never actually got it finished, his aggressive stance

0:30:17.800 --> 0:30:20.840
<v Speaker 1>to the border actually did a lot to deter people

0:30:20.920 --> 0:30:23.320
<v Speaker 1>from coming. As a matter of fact, during his presidency,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people at the time that had been

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<v Speaker 1>interviewed had said, why would we even bother going there,

0:30:29.320 --> 0:30:30.920
<v Speaker 1>We're just going to be kicked out. There's nothing there

0:30:30.920 --> 0:30:34.280
<v Speaker 1>for us when we get there, and so that worked

0:30:34.280 --> 0:30:36.680
<v Speaker 1>to deter people. But what we see now with the

0:30:36.760 --> 0:30:39.720
<v Speaker 1>border policy is like an open invitation for everybody to

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<v Speaker 1>come in. And of course this is led by the

0:30:42.360 --> 0:30:46.920
<v Speaker 1>Democrats and the Biden administration with this policy, and while

0:30:46.960 --> 0:30:49.280
<v Speaker 1>the people that are affected by this, specifically on the

0:30:49.280 --> 0:30:53.200
<v Speaker 1>border Arizona, Texas, etc. Have been panicking over this we've

0:30:53.200 --> 0:30:57.840
<v Speaker 1>seen millions of people coming over across the border. Some

0:30:58.800 --> 0:31:00.720
<v Speaker 1>people have decided to take steps into their own hands

0:31:00.720 --> 0:31:03.680
<v Speaker 1>and start to move these illegal immigrants into other areas,

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<v Speaker 1>one of which is specifically in New York City. Now,

0:31:07.920 --> 0:31:09.840
<v Speaker 1>it was sort of a little bit of irony this

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<v Speaker 1>week when we saw the mayor of New York, Mayor

0:31:13.240 --> 0:31:20.960
<v Speaker 1>Eric Adams, hold a press conference talking about this exact problem.

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<v Speaker 1>To his I have a video clip here, I was

0:31:24.360 --> 0:31:28.480
<v Speaker 1>going to play it here, where'd it go? But basically

0:31:28.560 --> 0:31:31.880
<v Speaker 1>Eric Adams was talking and he said, quote that this

0:31:32.080 --> 0:31:36.400
<v Speaker 1>issue will destroy New York City. He said that they're

0:31:36.400 --> 0:31:41.200
<v Speaker 1>getting ten thousand migrants per month and there's no stopping it.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no end in sight, which I thought was pretty

0:31:43.320 --> 0:31:45.960
<v Speaker 1>interesting that he would say that, here we go, here's

0:31:46.000 --> 0:31:48.480
<v Speaker 1>the clip, let me give it, let me get it

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<v Speaker 1>to play.

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<v Speaker 2>Here full support, and let me tell you something New

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<v Speaker 2>York is. Never in my life have I had a

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<v Speaker 2>problem that I did not see and ended too. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't see an ending to this.

0:32:02.760 --> 0:32:04.320
<v Speaker 1>Never in his life has he had a problem that

0:32:04.360 --> 0:32:07.280
<v Speaker 1>he didn't see an ending to. Oh, you mean like

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<v Speaker 1>closing the border. I mean, come on, you can't see

0:32:11.960 --> 0:32:14.400
<v Speaker 1>an ending to it. How about not giving them all

0:32:14.400 --> 0:32:16.960
<v Speaker 1>the free stuff so they stopped coming. There might be

0:32:17.000 --> 0:32:18.560
<v Speaker 1>something there. Let's hear a little bit more.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't see an ending to this. This issue will

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<v Speaker 2>destroy New York City. Destroy New York City. We get

0:32:29.600 --> 0:32:36.080
<v Speaker 2>in ten thousand migrants a month. One time we were

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<v Speaker 2>just in Venezuela. Now we get in Ecuador. Now we

0:32:40.520 --> 0:32:45.320
<v Speaker 2>can Russia speaking coming through Mexico. Now we get Western Africa.

0:32:45.680 --> 0:32:47.960
<v Speaker 2>Now we get people from all over the globe that

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<v Speaker 2>made their minds up that they're going to come through

0:32:51.600 --> 0:32:54.120
<v Speaker 2>the southern part of the border and come into New

0:32:54.200 --> 0:32:54.760
<v Speaker 2>York City.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's break that down a second. So we did

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<v Speaker 1>I've had people from South America, like Venezuela, but now

0:33:03.200 --> 0:33:07.360
<v Speaker 1>we have Russians, Ukrainians. Now we have people from West

0:33:07.400 --> 0:33:10.680
<v Speaker 1>Africa coming And what do you say through the southern

0:33:10.760 --> 0:33:12.720
<v Speaker 1>border because they've made up their mind they want to

0:33:12.720 --> 0:33:15.120
<v Speaker 1>come to America, so they just unpack that. So they're

0:33:15.160 --> 0:33:17.400
<v Speaker 1>coming through the southern border. Okay, so he can't see

0:33:17.400 --> 0:33:20.600
<v Speaker 1>a way out. Well, we could close the southern border. Now,

0:33:20.680 --> 0:33:22.160
<v Speaker 1>why are all these people from all the world deciding

0:33:22.160 --> 0:33:23.880
<v Speaker 1>and they want to come here. Well, because of the

0:33:23.920 --> 0:33:26.960
<v Speaker 1>things they get when they come here. So you change

0:33:26.960 --> 0:33:29.920
<v Speaker 1>the incentive system, you put a couple of checks and

0:33:29.960 --> 0:33:32.800
<v Speaker 1>gateways in and you solve that problem. Just about a

0:33:32.840 --> 0:33:35.840
<v Speaker 1>month ago, it was actually July, so a couple months ago,

0:33:36.600 --> 0:33:39.160
<v Speaker 1>I flew out to Spain to give a talk at

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<v Speaker 1>a Mastermind event there, and when I was flying back,

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<v Speaker 1>I was flying from Madrid to back to Los Angeles

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<v Speaker 1>and I had to go through El Salvador and on

0:33:52.480 --> 0:33:57.960
<v Speaker 1>my plane were I don't know, twenty or thirty African

0:33:58.280 --> 0:34:01.840
<v Speaker 1>people getting on the plane and they were all like,

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<v Speaker 1>dressed pretty nice, and they were all, you know, all

0:34:05.720 --> 0:34:07.680
<v Speaker 1>getting at the same time. And I've been to El

0:34:07.720 --> 0:34:11.399
<v Speaker 1>Salvador many times, mostly I go there for surfing. There's

0:34:11.400 --> 0:34:12.960
<v Speaker 1>not a lot in l savad Or. It's certainly not

0:34:13.000 --> 0:34:15.319
<v Speaker 1>a big debt tourist destination for most people, and it's

0:34:15.320 --> 0:34:19.759
<v Speaker 1>certainly not a place where twenty or thirty twenty year

0:34:19.760 --> 0:34:25.120
<v Speaker 1>old African males dressed nicely would go. So I start

0:34:25.160 --> 0:34:27.120
<v Speaker 1>thinking about this, and I tried to talk to a

0:34:27.160 --> 0:34:29.360
<v Speaker 1>couple of them. Most of them didn't speak any English,

0:34:29.640 --> 0:34:32.880
<v Speaker 1>and as it turns out, most of them were flying

0:34:33.640 --> 0:34:35.200
<v Speaker 1>into Al Savagor because of the place they could go

0:34:35.280 --> 0:34:38.080
<v Speaker 1>to for Madrid, and from El salvad Or they would

0:34:38.080 --> 0:34:42.280
<v Speaker 1>start to make their way up into the United States. Now,

0:34:42.400 --> 0:34:45.480
<v Speaker 1>who paid for these people, you know, dressed nice and

0:34:45.560 --> 0:34:47.479
<v Speaker 1>who paid for their plane tickets to get them there?

0:34:47.719 --> 0:34:50.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. That's a different story, but it certainly

0:34:50.400 --> 0:34:54.040
<v Speaker 1>seemed pretty organized to me. But this is what happens

0:34:54.120 --> 0:34:56.880
<v Speaker 1>when you have this. So for Eric Adam's statement, I

0:34:56.920 --> 0:34:59.279
<v Speaker 1>don't see an end in sight. Pretty interesting. Now, let's

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<v Speaker 1>break down some numbers we see. In the fiscal year

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty two, border patrol agents apprehended a record breaking

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<v Speaker 1>two point three million immigrants at the southern border. Now

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<v Speaker 1>this is apprehended, Okay, this number includes people that they got.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't include the people that they didn't, which is

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<v Speaker 1>the majority of people. We don't have a firm number

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<v Speaker 1>on that. We can see that the number of undocumented

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<v Speaker 1>immigrants crossings at the southwest border for the year twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty two topped almost three million people in one year,

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<v Speaker 1>which broke the previous annual record by more than one

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<v Speaker 1>million people. So this is a big it's a big problem,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a big epidemic. It's a big conversation, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>one that doesn't have an easy answer. But again, as

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<v Speaker 1>I said, the irony of making your bed now you

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<v Speaker 1>have to lay in it. The Democratic parties that want

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<v Speaker 1>this to happen. And here Eric Adams is having to

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<v Speaker 1>deal with this and he can't see an end in sight,

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<v Speaker 1>but when it's sitting right in front of your face.

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<v Speaker 1>And this goes back to what we talked about in

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<v Speaker 1>the very first episode, which is the law of unintended consequences.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to be able to think through first, second, third, fourth,

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<v Speaker 1>fifth order effects and this affects all of us. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>We have people all in this world, in this country

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<v Speaker 1>who don't think through the second, third, fourth, fifth order.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't think through the consequence of these things, and

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<v Speaker 1>unfortunately they're helping vote, which is why it's important for

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<v Speaker 1>us to continue to talk about these things, continue to

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<v Speaker 1>spread these brush fires to the minds of men. As

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<v Speaker 1>Samuel Adams said, take these conversations, discussing with your friends' family,

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<v Speaker 1>co workers, and we can change the collective shift anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what we got for today. Thanks so much for listening.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're just tune your listen to the Mark Mas Show,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's what I got. I'll talk to you next time,