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Speaker 1: Welcome back to this episode of Debo and Joe. I'm

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Speaker 1: your host, James Debo Harrison, and I'm here with my

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Speaker 1: co host, Joe Hayden. Please make sure you're like subscribing

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Speaker 1: downloads your podcasts where you get it. Hey, look here, man,

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Speaker 1: we don't uh, we don't have to move Joe from

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Speaker 1: from from you know, a location over there in Cabo.

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Speaker 1: But how you doing today, Joe? I told you don't

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Speaker 1: go to down there to Mexico. Boy, I should have

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Speaker 1: listened to you. I should have listened to you. Debo.

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Speaker 2: Honestly, I'm a little spook, brother. I can't even lie

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Speaker 2: to you. You know what I'm saying. It's getting real

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Speaker 2: tricky on this side of the world. I need to

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Speaker 2: get back feet planet on the US's territory. I'm not

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Speaker 2: even not even trying to be funny, bro, I'm a

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Speaker 2: little you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: I'm a little spook because.

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Speaker 2: When you start talking cartel, it's they going against police,

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Speaker 2: they running up in airports and stuff.

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Speaker 1: So definitely a little little spook.

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to book my stuff like I gotta I

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Speaker 2: gotta flight.

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Speaker 1: I can get in now.

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Speaker 2: So I really tried to just get on the show,

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Speaker 2: show you my face.

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Speaker 1: Let you know I am good, But I really do

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Speaker 1: need to slop.

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Speaker 2: What you mean, like right now, like like yeah, I

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Speaker 2: just got on here right now so I could show

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Speaker 2: you see your face, but I gotta go, like I

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Speaker 2: gotta I gotta flight that I can catch in the

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Speaker 2: next twenty So I need to leave here now if

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Speaker 2: I can get there, go Okay, I got I got

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Speaker 2: it right, Thank got it, thank you, thank you, I

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Speaker 2: got it.

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Speaker 1: Hey, look here. For anybody that don't know Joe, Joe's

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Speaker 1: in Joe's in Mexico. Oh ship, I just got nervous.

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Speaker 1: They got some stuff going on down there right now.

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Speaker 1: Cartel then took over. They ended up ended up. Uh,

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Speaker 1: I guess I'm alive in one of the leaders of

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Speaker 1: a cartel down there. L L Hancho, my boy in trouble.

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Speaker 1: Uh Woh, So we go get Joe out of there.

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Speaker 1: So I'm gonna end up doing the show solo. It's

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Speaker 1: still Debo and Joe, and this is what we go do.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna end up talking to the people's So for

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Speaker 1: anybody that don't know what's really going down there, I

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Speaker 1: believe we have a video we got some We got

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Speaker 1: a little something that we could show about what's going

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Speaker 3: Right as I'm sure you've already heard, there was a

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Speaker 3: top drug lord cartel member, El Mencho, who has been

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Speaker 3: I believe there was a fifteen million dollar bounty on

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Speaker 3: this man's head and he is now and that has

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Speaker 3: caused this whole situation to pop off. The place looks

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Speaker 3: like an absolute war zone right now, folks. Cartel has

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Speaker 3: been setting up blockades in the streets, stopping cars.

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Speaker 4: A whole bus was set on fire.

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Speaker 3: You've got car Tarl tell members who literally looked like

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Speaker 3: the military.

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Speaker 4: These guys are serious. These guys mean business.

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Speaker 3: A Costco was set on fire. A hospital was under attack,

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Speaker 4: There was that was under attack.

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Speaker 3: People literally running all over the place, screaming and crying.

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Speaker 3: The Porta Vierta airport as well has had had a

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Speaker 4: And it seems like it's not about to slow down anytime.

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Speaker 3: Soon, as I understand it. They the cartel have announced

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Speaker 3: So this thing could be just the beginning of what

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's just some of what's going on down there. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: safety is number one. We were hoping to be able

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Speaker 1: We didn't feel like or obviously he didn't feel like.

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Speaker 1: We didn't feel like it was that serious. But we

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Speaker 1: and we thought we would be okay. But I guess

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Speaker 1: as of now, they're starting to move further and further down.

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Speaker 1: And with Joe being Joe Hayden and us going on air,

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Speaker 1: we don't want to disclose his location. He obviously needs

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Speaker 1: The guy said, they're starting to go further and further down,

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Speaker 1: So yeah, in different areas Joe, I mean, to get

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Speaker 1: and the negotiation thing. You know, it's even like when

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Speaker 1: we went to Mexico for the Stillers thing, we actually

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Speaker 1: had a full like full service detail of security. We

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Speaker 1: each vehicle. You know, ar is full assault, you know,

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Speaker 1: tactical gear. And that was just for you know, a

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Speaker 1: Stiller's fan fan fest thing that was in Mexico City.

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Speaker 1: Joe's there by hisself, you know, a couple of friends.

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Speaker 1: So obviously he doesn't have that, you know, that that

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Speaker 1: So he's doing what's best for him, and I'm happy

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Speaker 1: for it. And I'm I'm gonna pray for my brother

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Speaker 1: and I'm gonna be there, and you know, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: look forward to seeing him get his feet back on

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Speaker 1: the ground here in the States. Yeah, okay, we'll be

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Speaker 1: back at this. Uh I'm tripping. I'm tripping. Will y'all

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Speaker 1: be back? But I'm going to finish the show. I

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Speaker 1: gotta get myself together, my boy. That made me nervous.

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Speaker 1: Look here, but what we go jump into is a

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Speaker 1: little bit of U s A hockey and the United

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Speaker 1: States whooped the brakes off of Canada. The women and

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Speaker 1: the men both and over time to to one the

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Speaker 1: United States whooped on. Hey look here, I want to

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Speaker 1: tell you something. So I'm not really a hockey dude, right,

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Speaker 1: so I don't know how this works. But last year

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Speaker 1: I was watching a hockey game, and the hockey game

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Speaker 1: I was watching was US and Canada. I don't know

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Speaker 1: how they played. Again, considering this is the Olympics, I

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Speaker 1: don't know how that worked. Somebody didn't chat tell me

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Speaker 1: how that worked. How did that work that they played

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Speaker 1: last year? Okay, so last year I was at my

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Speaker 1: I was at my cigar bar, right and I'm sitting

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Speaker 1: there and uh, I come in and they're like, yo,

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Speaker 1: you know it's about to be this this hockey match

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Speaker 1: going on, like you know, and you know it's about

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Speaker 1: to go down whatever. I'm like, you know whatever, Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I watch it, blah blah blah. And I took my

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Speaker 1: them to a pinis game where they're supposed to be fighting,

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, And no fight happened. So

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Speaker 1: obviously the kids, they I hate to say it with

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Speaker 1: my kids. They like to fight there that you know,

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Speaker 1: they fight for sport, you know what I'm saying. They

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Speaker 1: like my oldest he likes to do all the you know,

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Speaker 1: the MMA stuff and the training for that. And my youngest,

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Speaker 1: you know, he gets practiced on by my oldest. So

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Speaker 1: he got to defend himself some way, shape or for him,

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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. It's only a two year difference.

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Speaker 1: But my oldest son, he used to be a little

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Speaker 1: above victim weight. But my youngest he victim wait for show. Victim.

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Speaker 1: He victim wait for show. I ain't gonna lie to

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Speaker 1: you about that. He tall, but he victim weight. Okay,

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Speaker 1: he a little taller than my oldest, but he victim Waight.

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Speaker 1: So I'm sitting there right and I'm watching it right

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Speaker 1: and immediately soon as the puck drop them boys drop hands.

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about drop hands. We got we got anything

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Speaker 1: where we got a clip us drop hands right now.

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Speaker 1: This ain't even one second. They don't drop hands. They

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Speaker 1: go to fist the cuffing, he doesn't put hands on him.

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Speaker 1: Now they get through. They put these boys in the

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Speaker 1: another face off. They dropped the puck again. What I

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Speaker 1: hands again. They brothers. Okay. The two brothers then said, hey,

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Speaker 1: ahead put hands on these boys. Okay. They go ahead

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Speaker 1: and send the other brother into the box with his brother.

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Speaker 1: Now this I don't know, it's like three four seconds gone.

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Speaker 5: Immediately after that, they scape for about four five seconds

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Speaker 5: and they right there, they get down to the shot

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Speaker 1: And I ain't gonna even lie. The dude that dropped

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Speaker 1: hands this time, he was a little dude, and he

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Speaker 1: fighting the biggest motherfucker on Canada, and he throwing hands

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Speaker 1: I ain't gonna even lie. That's the first time in

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Speaker 1: my life I didn't ever watch the whole hockey match.

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Speaker 1: We lost. We lost, But listen, I was into this

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Speaker 1: was lit. It was lit. Okay. So now we go

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Speaker 1: and we then the Olympics, baby, okay, and this is

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Speaker 1: the first time that, hey, the men and the women

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Speaker 1: two one exactly the same, okay, exactly the same. And

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Speaker 1: the men them boys ain't one since nineteen eighty Olympics.

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Speaker 1: What they call that the miracle on ice, okay, and

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Speaker 1: when they won, listen, it was it was Captain America

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Speaker 1: up off that ice right there? What where that where that?

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Speaker 1: You can't play? Oh, listen, we can't even play the video.

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Speaker 1: We can't there play the video. But look here, take

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Speaker 1: that off there. But we'll go get to that. We

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Speaker 1: gonna get to the stuff. Okay, We're gonna get to

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Speaker 1: this stuff, fedibus. But what they don't know is everybody,

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Speaker 1: So I think they won and was it twenty eighteen

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Speaker 1: and they won in uh nineteen ninety eight, okay, so

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Speaker 1: I guess my guy Jack Hughes, he got his tooth

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Speaker 1: the winning goal. Okay, okay, okay, yes sir, yes sir.

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Speaker 1: Look here man that boy counter what is that? Hella buck?

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Speaker 1: He played a hell of a game, hell of a

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Speaker 1: he meant, look, we gotta go. We gotta picture that save.

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Speaker 1: We gotta picture that save. He got show that saved.

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Speaker 1: The boy was saving. Listen, only person saved is better

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Speaker 1: than this with Jesus itself. I'm trying to take you.

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to take like they put right on the stick,

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Speaker 1: this man only missed one forty one, forty two, okay,

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Speaker 1: forty one and forty two. Now they're supposed to fly

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Speaker 1: back to UH to New York. But it's a blizzard

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Speaker 1: got him going. Chack, you know where they got him going.

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Speaker 1: They got him going to Miami. Hey, it's gonna be lit.

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Speaker 1: I might be shooting my I might be shooting from

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Speaker 1: But since you gone, I'm gonna hold it down for you.

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Speaker 1: Maybe they could trading, and then I could be more

424
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 1: positive of him possibly, you know, or at least open

425
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:03,199
Speaker 1: to it, of the idea of yeah, yeah, I see,

426
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,200
Speaker 1: I just saw him in a different uniform. I'm like, yeah,

427
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 1: I'm more open to it now, you know what I'm saying,

428
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 1: long as it's not nowhere in that you know that

429
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 1: the AFC North, I'm good. I'm good. I could see

430
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 1: him doing it and any other you know, any other

431
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:25,359
Speaker 1: Jersey like anything. It could be San Francisco, you know,

432
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:30,400
Speaker 1: San Francisco, It could be Minnesota, you know, like somewhere

433
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 1: over there, like to where the likelihood of seeing him

434
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 1: is not until you know, you get to the super

435
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:45,720
Speaker 1: Bowl and then we're gonna put three on him and

436
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 1: make sure like, hey, it's not gonna be you. Let's

437
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 1: go effect and destroy her game plan. I just that's

438
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 1: my feeling of it over there. I just it's the Browns.

439
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 1: And when you're talking about the Browns, certain things that

440
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 1: you weren't allowed. You can't allow. As still as fan,

441
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 1: you know that when you wear this and when you

442
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 1: feel it, you know, yeah, he just you just you

443
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 1: just can't allow it, you know. But the rookie over there,

444
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 1: that's the rookie linebacker us. It was his name, Sweeshinger, Swishinger, Swashinger.

445
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 1: He said he didn't he doesn't or doesn't expect, you know,

446
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 1: the deed to change post shorts. I personally don't see

447
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 1: why it would change. I'm assuming that incoming staff would

448
00:29:56,680 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 1: have enough and to I wishing for common sense to

449
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 1: be like, yo, this worked, let's not change this because

450
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 1: we got a new decoordinator. I don't know why I'm

451
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 1: telling this. I don't know why I'm telling y'all this.

452
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 1: I don't know why I'm telling y'all this. I want

453
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 1: you all to change the person that this in me

454
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 1: wants you all to change. I want you all to

455
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 1: have to go through a whole new learning process. I

456
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:29,480
Speaker 1: want you all to have to learn a whole new scheme.

457
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 1: I hope the decordinator coming there and change everything. I

458
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 1: want y'all have to start all the way over. It's

459
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 1: a big difference. And you got that camaraderie, and then

460
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,960
Speaker 1: you got to understanding, you know, the ends and out

461
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 1: of the defense. And now you've been in that defense

462
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 1: for multiple years, and now you can go and be like, Okay,

463
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 1: I know what I'm doing, let me see what he doing.

464
00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 1: Let me see what the guy next to me doing.

465
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 1: And that was one of the things with Diglobos defense.

466
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 1: It was like, yo, we were together for years and years.

467
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 1: So now it's no longer what you're doing. I can't

468
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 1: know what I do better. Once I know what I

469
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 1: do one hundred percent, I can't know it no better.

470
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 1: So now I'm trying to learn what is my corner doing,

471
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 1: what is my end doing, what is my nose doing,

472
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 1: what is my inside linebacker doing, what is my safety doing?

473
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 1: And you know, when you do that you get even

474
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 1: better because now if I ain't got no work in

475
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 1: my zone, I know where I can push to now

476
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 1: to help the guy that's closer to me or closest

477
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 1: to me, help him cover his zone. So I one

478
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 1: hundred percent with enjoy. If the Browns decoordinator was to

479
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 1: come in there and change what they're doing, and when

480
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 1: it comes down to it, nine two nine two nine

481
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 1: two nine two nine two, thank you very much, not

482
00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 1: six seven nine two listen when it comes down to it. Though, Seriously,

483
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 1: I if I'm the decordinator, I'm talking to the de

484
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 1: coordinator coming in in Cleveland. I don't want to run

485
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 1: shorts this defense my ego. I'm talking to you if

486
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 1: you new decordinator in Cleveland, and let me speak to

487
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 1: your ego. You want to be known as a man

488
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 1: that came in as a decordinator. This supposed to beat

489
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 1: your pinnacle, your peak where you put Joe your name

490
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 1: on the map, you put your defense on the map.

491
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 1: You go let them sit in there with the same

492
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 1: defense of the defensive coordinator that was before you. Huh,

493
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 1: he done went and quit on them boys, He done

494
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:59,719
Speaker 1: cussed out everybody in there, probably talked about somebody mama

495
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 1: to you're gonna let him keep his defense in there,

496
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 1: and you're the new decordinator. M hmm. If it was me,

497
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 1: I'm a man, strong man. I believe in myself. I

498
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 1: believe in my defense. I believe in my skills. If

499
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 1: I'm the decordinator in Cleveland, I'm throwing Schwartz, I'm throwing

500
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 1: it out. Don't you go in there. Don't you go

501
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 1: in there and use his defense, because all they go

502
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 1: say is you ain't doing nothing. All you did was

503
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 1: coming here and take his book. You took his book

504
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 1: right here, and you said, hey, guys, this is what

505
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 1: we're gonna do. I just give it back to you.

506
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 1: If I'm me, you coming there, ego, I'm talking to

507
00:33:53,720 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 1: an ego. Oh that shit, man up, man, I'm talking

508
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 1: to you. I'm talking to you. Who is it, Mike Grittenberg,

509
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 1: I'm talking hey, Mike. Hey, if you do well, all

510
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 1: they going to say is okay, they were already doing

511
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 1: well with the same defense from the past de coordinator.

512
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:25,800
Speaker 1: But I mean, if you're willing to accept that and

513
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:32,880
Speaker 1: go from there, I guess I guess that's okay. I

514
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 1: guess that's okay. I don't know, I don't know. I

515
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:42,840
Speaker 1: know me, me personally, me being who I am and

516
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 1: being a man, A man. Hear that A man a man?

517
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 1: Are you a man? Are you going to go with

518
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:54,400
Speaker 1: your where you go? Run with some other guys that

519
00:34:54,560 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 1: left him hanging? I don't know. I don't know me.

520
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 1: I just told you what I'm gonna do because I'm

521
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 1: a man. Are you now? It says this doubtful that

522
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 1: j ok plays again. Jeremiah, what is it? A wo

523
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,840
Speaker 1: a woof sue. I'm gonna say, Jay, Okay, he is,

524
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,879
Speaker 1: he's a linebacker. I think they had n't drafton twenty

525
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 1: one or something like that. He ended up running into

526
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,719
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry or Derrick Henry ran into him and he

527
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 1: injured his uh, he injured his neck. And they're saying that,

528
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:38,839
Speaker 1: you know, it's doubtful that he plays again. Apparently by

529
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 1: his post you got the post here, he doesn't. He doesn't.

530
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 1: He doesn't feel the same way about that. If we

531
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 1: go by with they're reporting, then I guess it's you

532
00:35:56,160 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 1: know what, I'm gonna give you a story, so I

533
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 1: don't want to say it. Quase, okay, listen. So I

534
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:07,239
Speaker 1: was in Pittsburgh right this was like two thousand and eight.

535
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 1: I never forget it, never ever ever forget it, you know,

536
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 1: what the hell with it? It was a special teams coach. Okay,

537
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 1: it was two thousand and eight, okay, and special teams

538
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:20,880
Speaker 1: coach goes and tells Mike Humble, I never forget it.

539
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 1: Mike humpbo. I think he was from Iowa, Okay, linebacker

540
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 1: drafting ount know, four, fifth, sixth round or something like that.

541
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 1: All right, we're we're going through practice. This is when

542
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 1: I was still playing special team. I was starting and

543
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 1: playing special teams. Kick off all that stuff, right, And

544
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 1: he goes and tells this man to hit the wedge square. Now,

545
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:42,880
Speaker 1: this is back when they had the big offensive lineman

546
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 1: as the two and three man wedges. Okay, they locked

547
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 1: up hands like this. Okay, So it's shoulder to shoulder.

548
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 1: They're coming down and they're taking on the four or

549
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:54,400
Speaker 1: the five, whoever it is that's coming down into that wedge.

550
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 1: And he's sitting there and he tells him, you come

551
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 1: in there and you take the wedge on square. Hold up,

552
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 1: that ain't worse. After he tells him, you take the

553
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 1: wedge on square like this, he tell him, after you

554
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 1: hit it. Then you turn your hip. I said, hey,

555
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:14,319
Speaker 1: I say, humph. I say, if you do that shit one,

556
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,840
Speaker 1: you might go to sleep. I said, in two, you

557
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:19,719
Speaker 1: go get a hit pointer because they're gonna bang the

558
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:21,879
Speaker 1: sit out your hip. I'm not gonna say you told

559
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 1: me James be quiet, man, just let him close to

560
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 1: the Nope. Nope, I said cool. I sat back. I

561
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 1: bet I was quiet. I was quiet. But we get

562
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 1: into the we get into the line break thing. I say, hump, hey,

563
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 1: don't hit that web square. I said, when you get

564
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 1: down there, you make it look like you go hit

565
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 1: it square. But you pick one. The one you pick,

566
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 1: you take that shoulder or this shoulder, and you bomb

567
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 1: into him. And when you bomb into him, the bounce

568
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:51,399
Speaker 1: go actually put you into the hole because the other

569
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 1: dude will be trying to hit you. He gonna miss

570
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:58,360
Speaker 1: off and I told him miss right. And then you

571
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 1: go in you make the tackle. Humble. Mike didn't listen.

572
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:15,880
Speaker 1: His career started and ended in preseason. On the first kickoff,

573
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:22,840
Speaker 1: he runs down there, he listens to what this coach says.

574
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,439
Speaker 1: Why because you're thinking your coach is right, he knows

575
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:29,720
Speaker 1: what he's talking about. No, just because he coaches doesn't

576
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,319
Speaker 1: mean he knows what he's talking about. I'm trying to

577
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 1: tell you I have played this position forever. I have

578
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,360
Speaker 1: played it for the last five six years. I was

579
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 1: on special teams. Then I'm telling you do not do this.

580
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 1: But you're believing, as a young player coming in that

581
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 1: the person that is coaching knows what they're talking about

582
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:52,400
Speaker 1: and he doesn't want to not go down there and

583
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:55,799
Speaker 1: do it because he's thinking he might get cut. I understand.

584
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 1: But at the same time, listen to me, Listen to me,

585
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 1: to the other players, bruh, don't do that kickoff. Mike

586
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 1: runs down there. You can go and look at this.

587
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 1: You could probably look it up. Mike hits the wedge square.

588
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:18,799
Speaker 1: He goes in and he hits the wedge square like this,

589
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:23,799
Speaker 1: the same way Mike went in. Mike came straight out

590
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:28,279
Speaker 1: from his head, straight back to his neck, down through

591
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:35,240
Speaker 1: his ass onto his back. That is the first, last

592
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:39,879
Speaker 1: only play that Mike Humble played in the NFL. He

593
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 1: never played another down. Okay. Now I'm hoping this is

594
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 1: not the case with JA. Okay, but when you're getting

595
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:55,840
Speaker 1: reports that it's likely doubtful that you play again, I understand.

596
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:59,319
Speaker 1: In your mind, You're like, yo, I'm not done. I

597
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 1: still can do it. But I think now it's been

598
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:08,919
Speaker 1: what a whole season and he's still hasn't been able

599
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 1: to get back on the field. And I'm one hundred

600
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 1: understand how he feels, but I'm also in understanding of

601
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 1: how the teams and medical stats would feel because if

602
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 1: you put him back out there and God forbid, something

603
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 1: would happen, that is now their responsibility liability. So I'm

604
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:38,360
Speaker 1: hoping that he can get back out there. I'm hoping

605
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:43,319
Speaker 1: that it's you know, it's not correct, because nobody, you know,

606
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 1: wants to end their career early or in the manner

607
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:52,400
Speaker 1: that you know he ended his or could possibly be

608
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:57,799
Speaker 1: ending his. But to get another team out there, you

609
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 1: have I'm assuming this medical professional saying it's likely doubtful

610
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 1: that he'll be able to return and play again. That's

611
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 1: going to be it's going to be extremely hard. You know,

612
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna pray for him because you know, he is

613
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 1: a you know, he is a brother, he is a

614
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 1: you know, he's he's a he's an NFL player, he

615
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 1: is you know, he's out there trying to let a

616
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 1: dream and and and and feed his family and understand,

617
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:29,759
Speaker 1: so hopefully it's something that it's a he can he

618
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 1: can overcome. He can overcome