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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio. What's so, What's up?

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Speaker 1: It is a nice Fox Sports Sunday. We got a

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Speaker 1: great show today.

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Speaker 2: So excited because we have the early football games. We

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Speaker 2: have the Chiefs taking on the Miami Dolphins over in Frankfurt, Germany.

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Speaker 2: We got a good slate of games here on Domestic Soul.

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Speaker 2: So we're talking about all those things. We're coming off

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Speaker 2: a great football Saturday where we saw some great action

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Speaker 2: in the college slate. Top twenty five was popping. We

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Speaker 2: had Alabama and LSU, had Notre Dame going down to Clemson.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk about all of that stuff, but let's kind

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Speaker 2: of kick it off right.

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Speaker 1: There the college football landscape.

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Speaker 2: College football landscape is always going to be the place

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Speaker 2: where we get really excited.

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Speaker 1: In this month of.

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Speaker 2: November, we had the college football rankings, the playoff rankings

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Speaker 2: coming out, and so we're now getting closer and closer

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Speaker 2: to seeing who's going to be in the playoff field.

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Speaker 1: And so when you think about the game of.

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Speaker 2: The day, the game of the day yesterday was all

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Speaker 2: about Alabama and LSU. And the reason why that game

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Speaker 2: has so much I guess attention and intrigue about it

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Speaker 2: is because Nick Saban has gotten this team off the mat.

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Speaker 1: The Alabama Crimson.

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Speaker 2: Trot Todd, who is left for dead early in the season,

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Speaker 2: had them made their way back and they're climbing to

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Speaker 2: the top of the SEC West and if they continue

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Speaker 2: to take care of business, we have a potential showdown

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Speaker 2: looming in the SEC Championship game between Alabama and Georgia.

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Speaker 1: But before they could get to the top of the West,

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Speaker 1: they had.

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Speaker 2: To make sure that they took care of LSU and

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Speaker 2: man did they take care of them.

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Speaker 1: Great effort from their team.

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Speaker 2: This is a team that early in the year it

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Speaker 2: was all about the concerns about the quarterback Jalen Milroe.

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Speaker 2: Was he the right guy? Could he throw it well enough? Well,

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Speaker 2: I don't know if he can throw it well enough,

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Speaker 2: but I know he is the dual threat that they needed.

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Speaker 2: When you look at the stat line, Jalen Milroe was

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Speaker 2: fifteen to twenty three two hundred and nineteen yards. He

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Speaker 2: had twenty rushes fo one hundred and fifty five yards

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Speaker 2: and four touchdowns.

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Speaker 1: I mean that set.

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Speaker 2: The tone for when offense that had over five hundred

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Speaker 1: He played a big part.

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Speaker 2: In that and when you just go back and you

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Speaker 2: just think about the controversy, particularly coming off to the

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Speaker 2: Texas game where they sat him down, they played a

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Speaker 2: couple other quarterbacks, and he kind of goes back in

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Speaker 2: this team has changed, and Nick Saban deserves a lot

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Speaker 2: of credit for being able to adapt and adjust to

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Speaker 2: the personnel that he had. And Jalen Mill wrote he

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Speaker 2: didn't necessarily have the passer that he had in previous

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Speaker 2: years when he had Bryce Young get his disposal. He

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Speaker 2: had Mac Jones, he had two a tongue about lower

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Speaker 2: and so they had kind of molded their offense to

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Speaker 2: be a spread and shred attack. He now has to

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Speaker 2: almost go back and pull pages out of that Jalen

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Speaker 2: Hurts playbook where he has the physical runner at quarterback,

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Speaker 2: the guy who is a legitimate dual threat. You saw

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Speaker 2: them do some quarterback run game stuff where he got

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Speaker 2: on on the perimeter. You saw how physical he ran,

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Speaker 2: which is very reminiscent of how Jalen Hurts used to

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Speaker 2: run for the Crimson time when he was sec Offensive

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Speaker 2: Player of the Year and led them to the title game.

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Speaker 1: Where they to Clemson.

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Speaker 2: Jayden Milroe gave them a different dynamic and without that

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Speaker 1: I don't know if this offense could work.

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Speaker 2: Like the previous additions were, meaning they're not necessarily good

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Speaker 2: enough to throw it all over the yard and do

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Speaker 2: those things. Yes, they have pass catches and some of

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Speaker 2: mcclellun Kitchen the ball out the backfield and John Miller

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Speaker 2: Jamaine Burton, but they're may be not as dynamic on

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Speaker 2: the perimeter as they've been. And so for this team

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Speaker 2: to be able to adapt, to run the football, play defense,

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Speaker 2: to do the little things right, that has been the difference.

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Speaker 1: And this was a really.

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Speaker 2: Plucky LSU team, an LSU team who offensively Jalen Daniels

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Speaker 2: was able to get it done. They were able to

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Speaker 2: kind of go up and down the field. But this

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Speaker 2: offense for Alabama and now confidence of defense that's been

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Speaker 2: tough and rugged, and it gives them an opportunity to

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Speaker 2: maybe sneak in the back door and to the College

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Speaker 2: Football Playoff if they can take care of Georgia in

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Speaker 2: the SEC Championship game in about a month.

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Speaker 1: So I think Andy's back.

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Speaker 2: Andy, come on in, Let's talk about some of the

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Speaker 2: Stellars football some of the stuff.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm so sorry, I really am. I just had

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Speaker 4: And I want to talk because the College Football.

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Speaker 3: Plus Committee came out this week and have the rankings

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Speaker 3: for the first time.

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Speaker 4: I have Michigan number three. Okay, that's fine.

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Speaker 3: You know there's the people arguing maybe Michigan should be two,

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Speaker 3: whatever it may be, and that'll be decided when they

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Speaker 3: play Ohio State. But here's the deal. If there's a scandal,

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Speaker 3: and the hell could they be ranked at all? The

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Speaker 3: Selection committee says it's an NCAA issue, So it's an

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Speaker 4: Is it a Michigan issue? Whose issue is it?

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Speaker 3: I mean, the sign Steeler, this guy Conna Stallion's he's

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Speaker 3: been already suspended by UM so what does that mean?

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Speaker 3: Does the um mean they're guilty, that he's guilty. I

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Speaker 3: don't get it. What responsibility are you know better than

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Speaker 3: anybody you played college football I did. What responsibility does

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Speaker 3: this committee of the NCAA have. Should they try to

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Speaker 3: see if Michigan is really beating teams by thirty five

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Speaker 3: points or should cheating and this scandal be ignored. I

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Speaker 3: don't get it. I'm a fan, I'm a harp Off fan.

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Speaker 3: I'm a Michigan fan, but this whole situation stinks because

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Speaker 3: it's like kicking the can down the road.

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Speaker 4: That's what they're doing.

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Speaker 2: Oh man, Andy's fired up, and we couldn't be more

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Speaker 2: on opposite sides of this.

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Speaker 1: I think this is a lot of soary grapes.

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Speaker 2: I think this is a lot of whining and crying

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Speaker 2: from teams that have been beaten to a pulp by

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they could talk about, like my guy.

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Speaker 2: Going and stealing signs and doing all that other stuff,

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Speaker 2: from the eyeball test, because look, they couldn't steal signs

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Speaker 2: to death, and they've beaten everybody deaf and I think

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Speaker 2: they're gonna beat Ohio State to a up at the

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Speaker 2: end of the season. Because some are seeing that's where

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Speaker 2: this investigation and stuff may be stemming from them kind

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Speaker 2: of complaining after being beat down the last two years.

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Speaker 2: But this is a team if you go back and

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Speaker 2: you really look at Michigan and you wonder why they've

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Speaker 2: been able to win, Let's look at the amount of

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Speaker 2: NFL players that they produced the last couple of years,

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Speaker 2: Like they have some of the best players in the country.

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Speaker 2: Jim Harbory has built the program up where they have

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Speaker 2: I want to say, more blue chippers than you, but

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Speaker 2: they've developed guys into blue chappers that have been able

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Speaker 2: though I know people saying, well, they couldn't get the

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Speaker 1: Look at what happened. They played terrible against TCU.

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Speaker 2: They turned the ball over, They played the worst football

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Speaker 2: the end. I think, look, the proof is in the

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Speaker 2: the way they've continued to dominate the last few years.

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Speaker 2: We will have an opportunity to see how good they

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Speaker 2: really are and if the signs really had an impact

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Speaker 2: I know that these coaches, opposing coaches have been crying

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Speaker 4: But guy, tell I agree with you. I'm in your

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Speaker 3: Look, there's no way on God's green Earth that sign

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Speaker 3: by thirty five points. But the point is this, either

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Speaker 3: that the committee's ranking ranking them three, and they say,

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Speaker 3: I think the whole thing is screwed up. Either it's

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Speaker 1: So here's what I'll say.

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Speaker 2: I believe that everything should run its due process, right

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Speaker 2: like whenever we've had scandals and allegations. Allegations don't mean

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Speaker 2: it has been alleged that they've done this, and so

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Speaker 2: they deserve to have an opportunity to defend themselves and

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Speaker 2: presume them to be innocent until we know for sure

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Speaker 2: that the guilty of the things that they've been alleged.

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Speaker 1: Just because we get behind scenes reporting in.

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Speaker 2: Those things, we need to let the case play out,

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Speaker 2: and you can't punish or penalize Michigan and the current

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Speaker 2: team right now until you've resolved all the issues. And

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Speaker 2: it doesn't seem like it's going to be resolved, because

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Speaker 2: what if they take Michigan off the field and let's

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Speaker 2: say they take them out the playoff, and let's say

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Speaker 2: they take all the stuff away, but then they can't

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Speaker 2: find out that this is actually true. When now you

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Speaker 2: finnish a set of players and a team unfairly without

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Speaker 2: having the concrete evidence to knock them out.

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Speaker 1: I think this has to play it.

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Speaker 2: And no matter how much noise is around the situation,

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Speaker 2: how many coaches and people around programs cry about it,

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Speaker 2: this is one where you have to have the stuff

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Speaker 6: All Right, all right, what's hey, Tyler I've listened for you, Tyler, Listen,

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Speaker 6: Take one hundred percent responsibility for it. But all this

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Speaker 6: Nobody's at Coach k has never.

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Speaker 6: At some places there's an expectation, but at Clemson there's

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Speaker 6: People like you, all right, When I hired Tony Elliott

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Speaker 3: How about seening you're a clown? Really I have to

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Speaker 2: Having played against Clemson in the eighties and nineties, I

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Speaker 3: Sunday on Fox Sports Radio and bucket if I comment

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Speaker 3: on college football yesterday, all right, Washington basically has finished.

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Speaker 3: They're finished for the year. But this Caleb Williams, who

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Speaker 3: is or a year ago the game, the TV cameras

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Speaker 3: had him in the stands with his parents crying.

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Speaker 4: I mean, really, I'm.

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Speaker 1: All right, So Andy'd like to think about Caleb.

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Speaker 2: Williams crying and being emotion on this stuff. I'll say

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Speaker 2: this about Kaleb Williams. I'll worry about how he's impacted

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Speaker 2: his draft stock this year. He's a remarkable player. But

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Speaker 2: I think as you continue to dig into who he

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Speaker 2: is and what he is, I think he has opened

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Speaker 2: up the number one pick for debate, not necessarily because

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Speaker 2: the talent, but because of I won't say the emotional stability,

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Speaker 2: but I think the person, right, And when I think

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Speaker 2: of the number one pick, and I think about teams

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Speaker 2: investing in a quarterback, a lot of times what they're

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Speaker 2: looking for in a franchise quarterback is someone who is

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Speaker 2: what we call presidential, meaning they have the characteristics to

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Speaker 2: handle all the things that come along with me in

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Speaker 2: the face of the franchise, like the emotional stability to calm,

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Speaker 2: the coolness to confidence. They have kind of like this

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Speaker 2: demeanor that kind of brings everybody in. They also have

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Speaker 2: the ability on the field to put the team on

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Speaker 2: the back and take it to another level. There's no

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Speaker 2: disputing whether Caleb Williams can do those things. It's about

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Speaker 2: the stuff that we've seen him talking about, Oh, I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna go sit with my dogs and do all this

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Speaker 2: other stuff like that's cute and all that, But I

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Speaker 2: think there's a level of seriousness that people want young

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Speaker 2: people at quarterbacks to take the position with. And so

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Speaker 2: when you get into that debate where people are going

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Speaker 2: to talk about they're gonn look at Cayleb Williams and

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Speaker 2: they gonna talk about Drake may and I don't think

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Speaker 2: Bo Nicks and Michael Pennis are in the same class,

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Speaker 2: but they're gonna look at the maturity of those guys

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Speaker 2: and they're going to cross reference that with what they've

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Speaker 2: seen from Kayleb Williams. And I don't think he's done

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Speaker 2: himself a solid this year by the way that he

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Speaker 2: like the postgame stuff, the stuff coming out about maybe

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Speaker 2: he wants a part of the team.

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Speaker 1: I think the evaluation.

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Speaker 2: When we get to the draft, I think we're going

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Speaker 2: to be surprised at how tight the race for the

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Speaker 2: number one pick is, particularly if it's involving him and

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Speaker 2: other quarterbacks vying for that spot.

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Speaker 4: I hear what you're saying.

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Speaker 3: All Right, We're gonna continue in a second, because we're

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Speaker 3: gonna take a little bit of a break because coming

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Speaker 3: up next live from the tiraq dot com studios, this

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Speaker 3: game has been burned by every number one receiver they faced.

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Speaker 4: That's next, But first, Kevin Wyatt with all your spool.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, we got an NFL Sunday upon us, and we

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Speaker 9: have some injury updates for you for today's late of games.

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Speaker 9: Rams quarterback Matthew Stafford he heard his thumb playing against

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Speaker 9: the Cowboys last week. Listed as doubtful, he is not

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Speaker 9: expected to play today against the Green Bay Packers. However,

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Speaker 9: wide receiver Puka Nakua, has been dealing with a knee

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Speaker 9: injury is expected to play. That's according to Ian rappaport

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Speaker 9: A Cowboys offensive tackle Tyron Smith, he's been dealing with

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Speaker 9: a neck issue. He is expected to play today as

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Speaker 9: well as for the college game. We had a couple

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Speaker 9: of late pac twelve games. Last night, Arizona is now

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Speaker 9: Bowl eligible for the first time since twenty seventeen. They

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Speaker 9: beat number nineteen Ucla twenty seven to ten. The Bruins

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Speaker 9: now just three and three in the Pac twelve. Number

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Speaker 9: sixteen Oregon stateed over Colorado twenty six nineteen. The bus

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Speaker 9: now just one in five in Pac twelve play after

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Speaker 9: their strong start to the season. Top break Ohio State.

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Speaker 9: They trailed at halftime. However, they eventually do come back

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Speaker 9: to beat Rutgers thirty five to sixteen. Second ring Georgia

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Speaker 9: thirty twenty one winners against number tw world Missouri, Number

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Speaker 9: three Michigan. With all the distractions regarding their sign stealing scandal,

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Speaker 9: they still were favorited. Heavily favorited against Purdue and they

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Speaker 9: roll as expected, forty one to thirteen. Number four Florida State.

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Speaker 9: They trailed seven nothing late in the first half with

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Speaker 9: them would score twenty four unanswered to beat Pittsburgh twenty

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Speaker 9: four to seven. It was a shootout at the Coliseum

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Speaker 9: in La. Number five Washington fifty two to forty two

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Speaker 9: winners against number twenty us C Dylan Johnson two hundred

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Speaker 9: and fifty six rushing yards and four touchdowns. Number six

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Speaker 9: Oregon gets six touchdowns from bow Nicks as they demolished

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Speaker 9: Cal sixty three nineteen Number seven Texas. They blew a

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Speaker 9: twenty point lead, but they still hang on and beat

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Speaker 9: number twenty three Kansas State in overtime thirty three to thirty.

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Speaker 9: Number eight Alabama. They come from behind you, beating Number

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Speaker 9: fourteen LSU forty two to twenty eight. Number twenty two

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Speaker 9: Oklahoma State, living up to the term bedlam, takes down

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Speaker 9: their in state rival, Number nine Oklahoma twenty seven to

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Speaker 9: twenty four. That Cowboy defense forcing the Sooner Sooners into

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Speaker 9: committing three turnovers. Number ten Old Miss gets a touchdown

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Speaker 9: with less than two minutes ago to be Texas A

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Speaker 9: and M thirty eight thirty five as they were able

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Speaker 9: to block a field goal on the final play. Upset

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Speaker 9: today in Death Valley, Clemson over Notre Dame Number fifteen

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Speaker 9: Notre Dame thirty one to twenty three as the Irish

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Speaker 9: offense really struggled thirteen total first downs in fourteen offensive

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Speaker 9: possessions and number twenty four two lane thirteen ten winners

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Speaker 9: at East Carolina Army upsets number twenty five Air Force

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Speaker 9: twenty three to three back to you guys.

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Speaker 1: Thanks.

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Speaker 2: Football fans, be sure to tune in to Fox Sports

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Speaker 2: here you are, Andy, welcome back. We're back on Fox

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Speaker 2: Sporth Sunday. There's so many ways that.

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Speaker 1: We can go.

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Speaker 2: We've talked about college football and we'll continue to talk

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Speaker 2: about those things. But Andy, I gotta get your take

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Speaker 2: on like this this thing. What do you think about

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Speaker 2: these international games. We have a great game that is

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Speaker 2: coming up today nine thirty eastern. We have the Kansas

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Speaker 2: City Chiefs taking on Miami Dolphins. However, that game is

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Speaker 2: played on other soul. They're playing in Germany. What do

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Speaker 2: you think about a game of this magnitude being played

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Speaker 2: outside of domestic us.

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Speaker 3: I think it's just Ridicdus the ticket holder, I missed

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Speaker 3: this game. I'm doing Miami, and obviously it's a it's

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Speaker 3: a home game, so I minds a ticket package for

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Speaker 3: the Kansas City Chiefs and I lose a home game,

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Speaker 3: and there's one hell of a game. First of all,

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Speaker 3: Number two, you know and mind th in the morning

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Speaker 3: to watching football crazy. I understand the money grand well

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Speaker 3: broaden your scope marketing wise for the National Football League,

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Speaker 3: But to me, it's a slap on the face to

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Speaker 3: every paying customer.

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Speaker 2: I wonder about that, and in growing the game, do

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Speaker 2: you turn off your fans that are right there?

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Speaker 1: You talk about a rabbit Ken City Chiefs fan base.

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Speaker 2: I would say a fan base that's re emerging with

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Speaker 2: the Miami Dolphins. This will be a marquee matchup. This

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Speaker 2: is a game that everyone wants to see. Two of

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Speaker 2: the top teams in the AFC. Two quarterbacks that have

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Speaker 2: garnered a lot of attention. One Pat Mahomes who's a

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Speaker 2: two time MVP, two time Super Bowl champion another and

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Speaker 2: two a take by lower who people have strong opinions about,

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Speaker 2: either you love them or hate them. You have these

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Speaker 2: dynamic offenses that everyone I mean, it's entertaining, everyone wants

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Speaker 2: to see, and yet no one has an opportunity really

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Speaker 2: to see it up close and personal. I understand wanting

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Speaker 2: to expand the game, right, make it a global game

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Speaker 2: because it brings in more fans. More fans equal more money.

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Speaker 2: More money goes to pot because of not only the

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Speaker 2: owners but the players, but man and just to think

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Speaker 2: about this being played in a Rockets environment, whether it's

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Speaker 2: that Arrowhead field or whether it's down in Miami, you

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Speaker 2: just miss out on that part. And I think the

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Speaker 2: I would say, like musty TV moments right where everyone

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Speaker 2: knows I got to sit down and watch that game.

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Speaker 2: Whether it's a Sunday night or Monday night game or

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Speaker 2: whatever those are, what you have, you may get it

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Speaker 2: because it's the early game and we all are tuned

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Speaker 2: in early.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's a little different.

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Speaker 2: You can't go to the bar and have an adult

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Speaker 2: beverage per se and not to any more. That's a

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Speaker 2: little early to be consuming those. But maybe some people

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Speaker 2: will do it. You know, they make an exception on

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Speaker 2: this Sunday, But it is just so unique to have

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Speaker 2: a game of this magnitude that is not played in

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Speaker 2: the States.

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Speaker 1: You kind of miss out on that part of it.

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Speaker 4: You know, I'll go one step further.

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Speaker 3: I don't think the people in Frankfurt, Germany appreciate the

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Speaker 3: rivalry or the importance of this game.

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Speaker 4: You know, for them, it's just the one day.

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Speaker 3: You know, for fans of Kansas City, this means a

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Speaker 3: lot of both who Kansas City is coming off a

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Speaker 3: tremendous loss to Denver last week, which makes them, in

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Speaker 3: my mind, very vulnerable to lose this ball game today.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it does make them runnable. And this is a

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Speaker 1: great matchup.

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Speaker 2: Like all things aside when it comes to where the

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Speaker 2: game is being played, this is a great matchup. This

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Speaker 2: is one that we all want to see, and we

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Speaker 2: want to see it because it's two of the top

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Speaker 2: teams we kind of want to see. Are the Miami

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Speaker 2: Dolphins legitimate heavyweights? You know, they whoop up on these

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Speaker 2: inferior opponents. They dropped the seventy burger on the Denver Broncos,

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Speaker 2: who appear to have no business been on the field

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Speaker 2: with them. But when they played teams that are considered

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Speaker 2: the top teams, they haven't.

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Speaker 1: Been able to get it done.

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Speaker 2: We saw them get shellacked by the Buffalo Bills right

657
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Speaker 2: after putting a seventy burger on the Broncos. This matchup,

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Speaker 2: to me is much bigger for the Miami Dolphins than

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Speaker 2: it is kan City Chiefs. We know the Kensey Chiefs

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Speaker 2: have been there, done there. They have two Super Bowl

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Speaker 2: trophies hanging in the trophy case back at our head.

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Speaker 2: We haven't seen the Dolphins pull that off. So this

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Speaker 2: is in my estimation, I must win. For the Dolphins.

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Speaker 2: They want the respect of everybody else that they are

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Speaker 2: legitimate contender for the title. If they lose this one,

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Speaker 2: if they losing an embarrassing fashion, we're not going to

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Speaker 2: regard them as a top team because we have no

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Speaker 2: evidence that they can get it done against a team

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Speaker 2: that is like them or maybe slightly above them.

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Speaker 4: I like the Dolphins to win this game.

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Speaker 1: I like the Ken City Chiefs.

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Speaker 2: I think Kency Chiefs defense better, better defense, gives them

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Speaker 2: a chance. Because as much as I love the firepower

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Speaker 2: and how we anticipate this going up and down the field,

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Speaker 2: the can City Chiefs have won of late because they

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Speaker 2: play confimentary football, offense, defense, special teams being tied together.

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Speaker 2: I expect us to see that kind of effort today.

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Speaker 3: Well, we'll see what happens. I'll tell you what I

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Speaker 3: think the Dolphins right now. I don't Kansas City.

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Speaker 4: I think, as I said, it makes them very vulnerable.

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Speaker 4: I think that at the least.

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Speaker 1: I lost.

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Speaker 4: All Right, did you get that? Did you get my remark?

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Speaker 4: Did I like the Dolphins in this one?

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Speaker 10: Buck?

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Speaker 4: Did you get that one?

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Speaker 1: Okay? So you like? Do you like the Dolphs? You

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Speaker 1: like the Dolphins in this one?

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Speaker 2: If the Dolphins for it this off, then we have

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Speaker 2: to kind of can consider them, Like I have these

691
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Speaker 2: power rankings that come out, we got to consider them

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Speaker 2: the top one or two team.

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Speaker 1: In the league.

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Speaker 2: Right now, we have Philadelphia sitting at the top because

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Speaker 2: they're seven and one. They take on the Dallas Cowboys later,

696
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Speaker 2: which is another Markeee game.

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Speaker 1: It's a great Sunday for football. He talked about the

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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys and the Phillid Differy Eagles, going, that's gonna

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Speaker 1: be epic, and then this one. I still like.

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Speaker 2: I still like Kansas City. I understand your argument about

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Speaker 2: the Miami Dolphins. I love their offense and Tyreek Hill

702
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Speaker 2: and how they're gonna match up with those things. I

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Speaker 2: just wonder when it gets down to it, Canda Kansas

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Speaker 2: City Chiefs impose their will on to it till below.

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Speaker 2: Because remember that offensive line for the Miami Dolphins. They

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Speaker 2: have some vulnerabilities. It's gonna be an interesting matchup to watch.

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Speaker 3: There you go, all right, He's Bucky Brooks. I'm Andy Freman.

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Speaker 3: You get us on Twitter at Bucket Brooks and Andy

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Speaker 3: from an FIS And by the way, I got a

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Speaker 3: yes or no A yes no say with Bucket Brooks

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Speaker 3: cock here next.

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Speaker 2: Guys, Welcome back to Fox Sports Sunday. I'm Bucky Brooks

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Speaker 2: here with Andy Furman. We're taking you through all of

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Speaker 2: the action or leading up to the action NFL action Today.

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Speaker 2: We got the Cans, the Chiefs, Miami Dolphins coming up

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Speaker 2: at nine thirty Eastern. Did a great slate of NFL games.

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Speaker 2: We'll get to that later on.

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Speaker 1: Andy.

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Speaker 2: I know you are a huge, huge college football fan.

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Speaker 1: What was the game that stood out to you the

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Speaker 1: most on Saturday?

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Speaker 10: Oklahoma State beating Oklahoma in the last rivalry game between

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Speaker 10: those two schools before they switch conferences. And I was

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Speaker 10: really happy because Lahoma right now has always been like

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Speaker 10: the big brother to Oklahoma State. So I'm happy that

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Speaker 10: Oklahoma State and Mike Gundy won that game. And right

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Speaker 10: now Oklahoma State has a real good shot has a

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Speaker 10: Big Twelve championship game. Right now is an Oklahoma State

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Speaker 10: maybe going for that championship title in that conference.

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Speaker 2: It is so crazy because just a couple of weeks ago,

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Speaker 2: we thought Oklahoma was a team that was kind of

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Speaker 2: coming back. Brent Ventnabils had done a really good job

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Speaker 2: bringing him back to a certain point. But Oklahoma State

738
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Speaker 2: is able to get it done in Betlam. Mike Gundy,

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Speaker 2: probably one of the more underrated coaches in college football,

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Speaker 2: has this team positioned to take on to Texas in

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Speaker 2: the Big Twelve title game. And so it'll be exciting.

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Speaker 2: You talk about an offense that is always exciting. He's

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Speaker 2: always been able to kind of produce it, put up

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Speaker 2: big numbers in that vein, and so this was a great,

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Speaker 2: I guess send off Oklahoma. You're leaving the Big Twelve

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Speaker 2: going to the SEC chasing bigger dreams.

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Speaker 1: They send you out with the nail. Great win for

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Speaker 1: Mike Gundy and the Cowboys.

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Speaker 10: And I'll tell you what, not only is a great

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Speaker 10: win for my Gundy, this kid, Ollie Gordon, who runs

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Speaker 10: for like one hundred and thirty seven yards. You got

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Speaker 10: to consider this guy for the Heisman Trophy right now.

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Speaker 10: The guys haven't come out of nowhere, but the last

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Speaker 10: several weeks he's been carrying this team on his back.

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Speaker 1: Look, man, I can't knock you for that. When I

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Speaker 1: go in I think.

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Speaker 2: About the Heisman Trophy race, it's wide open. I mean

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Speaker 2: it's for anybody.

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Speaker 1: You know. Caleb Williams certainly will not be in the conversation.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he make it votes and be a top

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Speaker 2: five finalist, but they won't win it because the team

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Speaker 2: hasn't won enough and he hasn't played at the same

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Speaker 2: level that he played at last year. Vot Knicks is

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Speaker 2: probably a front runner. Oregon is playing well. He's put

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Speaker 2: up big numbers and experienced quarterback. He has some Marque games.

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Speaker 2: He'll get a chance maybe in the PAC twelve title game,

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Speaker 2: but outside of that, it's wide up. And I heard

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Speaker 2: people talking about Jayden Daniels, but I'm like, LSU hasn't

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Speaker 2: won enough to kind of thrust him to be front

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Speaker 2: run established. So, yeah, you're right, Oli Gordon has a

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Speaker 2: chance to kind of backdoor his way into that conversation,

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Speaker 2: and who knows how the voter may go right.

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Speaker 10: And I tell you so, you look about Michael Pennox Junior.

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Speaker 10: I don't think he played that well yesterday with the

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Speaker 10: Washington I put up fifty two. I'll tell you something else.

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Speaker 10: The next move could be made. In college football, USC

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Speaker 10: been a get a defensive coordinator. It's unbelievable. You're giving

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Speaker 10: up fifty two big ones to give it up thirty

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Speaker 10: forty fifty points every Saturday.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it is disappointing to see how they are playing.

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Speaker 2: I mean, they just have not been able to get

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Speaker 2: it done. And this has been a recurring theme for SC.

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Speaker 2: People have talked about Alex Grinch and they don't like

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Speaker 2: the defense Lincoln Riley Deasky's got. He brought him with

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Speaker 2: him from Oklahoma, and for whatever reason, it just hasn't worked.

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Speaker 1: I'm not a USC fan, but I have an.

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Speaker 2: Appreciation for the history and the tradition of the Trojans,

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Speaker 2: and to see them play the kind of defense that

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Speaker 2: they're playing, man, it makes my stomach turn. They just

790
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Speaker 2: aren't playing great defense. And I think about the Pete

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Speaker 2: Carroll era, I think about going all the way back

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Speaker 2: to the John McKay era and just the great defensive

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Speaker 2: players that have come out of that program. To see

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Speaker 2: them just I mean fifty points, like just giving up

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Speaker 2: point at the point at the point. Look, it's disgusting,

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Speaker 2: and at some point Lincoln Riley has to address it.

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Speaker 2: They will never win a national title until they have

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Speaker 2: a defense that ranks within the top fifteen.

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Speaker 1: It will not happen at SC.

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Speaker 10: I'm with you there. I'll tell you what. Another school

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Speaker 10: that's going down to Cropper is Florida. They started the

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Speaker 10: season five and two. They lost forty three twenty to

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Speaker 10: Georgia last week, and they lose an overtime yesterday to Arkansom,

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Speaker 10: of all people. So this Florida team basically fooled us

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Speaker 10: coming on their pretenders. They're five and three right now,

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Speaker 10: and they're going nowhere.

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Speaker 1: No, they aren't going anywhere.

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Speaker 2: And look, it's a difficult, difficult situation to see Florida

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Speaker 2: like that, because college football is better when Florida is relevant,

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Speaker 2: when you have a relevant Florida. Georgia and the se

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Speaker 2: what used to be the SEC East, you need to

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Speaker 2: have those teams playing well, and you got to have

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Speaker 2: SC being one of the top teams. If you're the

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Speaker 2: PAC twelve and you don't have SC there, like, what

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Speaker 2: are we doing? And this is a team that had

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Speaker 2: both teams a lot of expectation out of there, not

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Speaker 2: necessarily Florida being a player a college football playoff team,

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Speaker 2: But we thought Florida would be back Billy Napier in

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Speaker 2: the second year. We thought they would have some progress

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Speaker 2: and we just haven't seen it today. Maybe they can

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Speaker 2: get hot down the stretch, but really really disappointing in

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Speaker 2: Florida is certainly at USC.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, and Florida's an LSU Missouri and Florida State next.

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Speaker 10: I'll tell you what, if they win one of those

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Speaker 10: three games, they'll be lucky. And I'll tell you what

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Speaker 10: I look at sometimes as schools and where they're located.

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Speaker 10: That's a hotbed for high school football. There's no damn

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Speaker 10: excuse for schools like Florida and Florida State, even Miami,

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Speaker 10: Miami and Florida not to be more competitive because of

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Speaker 10: the high school talent that they have in that state.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they should, I mean they should have it. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I mean, you should see these teams play well. They

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Speaker 2: should recruit well, they should be able to dominate when

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Speaker 2: it comes to the recruiting rankings, and you've got to

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Speaker 2: have players to be able to do it. But these

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Speaker 2: are teams that we just need to see more. We

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Speaker 2: got to see more out of them, and it's disappointing

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Speaker 2: that they're not in the conversation. We can only hope

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Speaker 2: that they can somehow find a way to turn it

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Speaker 2: down at both respective programs.

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Speaker 10: Right and right now, I've got to believe that the

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Speaker 10: national title is somewhat wide open. But I think the

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Speaker 10: biggest game on the HORII has to be Ohio State

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Speaker 10: and Michigan. And I tell you why. I like Michigan

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Speaker 10: over Ohio State. And I hate to say this, but

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Speaker 10: if Michigan should win the national title, and I got

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Speaker 10: a pretty good shot at doing so, I don't want

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Speaker 10: to see anybody taking that title away from those kids.

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Speaker 2: No, I don't want to see that either. I think

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Speaker 2: Michigan should be in there. I think they had to

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Speaker 2: put everything on pause. I think they need to put

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Speaker 2: everything on pause into at the end of the season.

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Speaker 2: No one wants to hear that but it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 2: That's how she going too. You can get concrete proof

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Speaker 2: that this team benefited. This team that we're talking about

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Speaker 2: right now, they benefited from the scandal.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we can't take it away.

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Speaker 2: If you want to vacate it, maybe feel like those things,

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Speaker 2: the previous Big Ten championships or whatever, need to be

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Speaker 2: wiped away.

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Speaker 1: I disagree with it, but I can understand that.

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Speaker 2: But this has to be something we're one You investigate

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Speaker 2: and see did this guy act.

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Speaker 1: On his own?

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Speaker 2: How much knowledge did Jim Harbaugh and the rest of

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Speaker 2: the staff have, and how did it impact the way

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Speaker 2: that they prepared.

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Speaker 1: All those things have to be considered before you do it.

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Speaker 2: And I'll say this, Michigan would make the biggest mistake

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Speaker 2: of their football pro lives if they punt on Jim Harbor.

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00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 2: Jim Harbor has brought this program all the way back.

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Speaker 2: They will not find someone who can be a suitable

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Speaker 2: replacement all those other programs around the Big Ten. They

874
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 2: want him gone because they realized the beast that is

875
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Speaker 2: becoming up in Michigan.

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Speaker 10: I'm with you right there, though. The only problem I

877
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Speaker 10: have with the Michigan situation this guy Connor Stallion's. He

878
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:23,319
Speaker 10: was a football analyst and he was like in the

879
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 10: center of this NCAA investigation into the illegal off campus

880
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:30,360
Speaker 10: scouting and the signal stealing. He resigned from his position

881
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 10: on Friday. Okay, so I got to believe that he

882
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Speaker 10: didn't resign on his own. Michigan said, get out. We'll

883
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 10: pay you a big check to get out of here.

884
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Speaker 10: We don't want you put on the program to me

885
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Speaker 10: that admits guilt. Why would he resign? I don't understand it.

886
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Speaker 10: If I went to a football game next week Buck

887
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Speaker 10: and I took some video and said it to Jim Harbor,

888
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Speaker 10: is that illegal? I don't think so.

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Speaker 2: I'm Bucky Brooks. I got my guy Andy Furman on

894
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Speaker 2: the other side. We are excited to talk to you

895
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Speaker 2: on Sunday Football Sunday. It's always a football Sunday Sunday Funday.

896
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Speaker 2: We're gonna talk about it.

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Speaker 1: Andy.

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Speaker 10: How you doing everything is good, Bucky. I can't wait.

899
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Speaker 10: We've got a big game Sunday night here in Cincinnati

900
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Speaker 10: with the Buffalo Bills. I can't wait.

901
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:26,359
Speaker 1: Okay, let's talk about that right there.

902
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 2: I mean, you got Joe Burrow kind of coming back

903
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 2: to Cincinnati Bingals kind of finding their way ahead, a

904
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 2: big win a week ago, and now they take on

905
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:36,360
Speaker 2: the Buffalo Bills. A lot of the storyline around this

906
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 2: game would be Deamar Hamlin coming back to Cincinnati. That's

907
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 2: where the unfortunate accident or incident happened, where he was

908
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 2: lifted off, stopped the game and those things, and we

909
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 2: saw him, I would say, I'm a rackless recovery to

910
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 2: make his way back to the National Football League. So

911
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 2: there'd be a lot of emotion wrapped around that game.

912
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 2: But this is a game for the Cincinnati Bengals to

913
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 2: kind of re emerge as one of the top teams

914
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 2: in the AFC. What do you see from the Bengals.

915
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:05,280
Speaker 2: What do you think about this game against the Buffalo Bills.

916
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 10: You know, let me talk about the DeMar Hamlin thing

917
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 10: for a second if I may, because that to me

918
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 10: was a good wretching situation and the people who were

919
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 10: involved the training staff, the hospital people, the ambulance, whatever

920
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 10: it may be, really saved this kid's life. And I

921
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 10: got to ask you, what, all the years that you've

922
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 10: played football, high school, college, professional, have you ever seen

923
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 10: a situation Maybe not that close to death, as I

924
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 10: may say as that one, but as anything like that

925
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 10: occurred to you while you were playing and you said

926
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Speaker 10: to yourself, second guessing yourself, why am I playing this

927
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:43,320
Speaker 10: game because it could be my very last.

928
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

929
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Speaker 2: Unfortunately, Andy, when I was in high school, one of

930
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Speaker 2: my teammates passed away in the middle of a practice

931
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Speaker 2: while we were doing conditioning, Cliff Hargrave. And what it

932
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 2: does is, even at a young age, like it kind

933
00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 2: of wipes away some of the invincibility that you feel

934
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:03,879
Speaker 2: as a player, those moments when you see your teammates

935
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:07,319
Speaker 2: under the rest or in distress, like they kind of

936
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Speaker 2: last with you. And for the Buffalo Bills and the

937
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,359
Speaker 2: Cincinnati Binnings that saw that mar Hamlin go through that,

938
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Speaker 2: it took a lot of I would say, mental work

939
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:18,840
Speaker 2: to be able to walk back on the field because

940
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Speaker 2: as players, we kind of have a gladiator mentality where

941
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 2: we all feel like when we walk in the arena,

942
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 2: everyone is not only here to see us, but we're

943
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 2: going to make it to the other side unscathed.

944
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 1: And that's the only way you can do it.

945
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:33,279
Speaker 2: There's a level of kind of like this superhero mentality

946
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:34,400
Speaker 2: that you walk into.

947
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Speaker 1: The game with.

948
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 2: Well, when you see someone vulnerable like that mar Hamlin was,

949
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 2: who's suffering like he was what he was, and then

950
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Speaker 2: when you begin to think about life or death consequences,

951
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:46,759
Speaker 2: it does make you pause when you're playing the game.

952
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:49,799
Speaker 2: The good thing is everyone will have an opportunity to

953
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:52,840
Speaker 2: see him and so it will kind of eliminate those

954
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 2: things in terms of those negative thoughts, of those doubts.

955
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:58,879
Speaker 2: But yeah, it certainly has an impact on you. It

956
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 2: brings then maybe the negative outcome to life because you

957
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:05,799
Speaker 2: never think about that, you pushed it into the far

958
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:08,400
Speaker 2: corners of your mind. It does impact the way that

959
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:10,239
Speaker 2: you go for it. And all those players that were

960
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 2: on the field that Monday night have certainly had to

961
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 2: deal with that in their own mind.

962
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 10: Right now, getting back to this ballgame tonight, the Bengals

963
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 10: hosting the Buffalo Bills. The good news for the Buffalo Bills,

964
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Speaker 10: if there's any good news at all, the Bengals are

965
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:25,839
Speaker 10: giving up like almost one hundred and forty rushing yards

966
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 10: a game. So maybe James Cook could get something done

967
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 10: against the Bengals. The bad news for the Buffalo Bills

968
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 10: is that this is a bad matchup. And why don't

969
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 10: I say that because last year in the playoffs it

970
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 10: was a bad matchup and things haven't changed as long

971
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:42,400
Speaker 10: as Joe Burrow was healthy. Last week, Joe Burrow and

972
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:44,840
Speaker 10: the Bengals plays I would think, as close to a

973
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 10: perfect game as you could when they beat the forty

974
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 10: nine ers in San Francisco. He totaled three hundred plus

975
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 10: yards three touchdowns in that win over the forty nine ers.

976
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Speaker 10: As I say, in San Francisco last week, Yeah, Joe Burr.

977
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Speaker 1: Are certainly coming on.

978
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 2: The thing that I liked about Joe Burrow and what

979
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:03,319
Speaker 2: we saw in the game against San Francisco we saw

980
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:05,279
Speaker 2: him move around a little bit. And when Joe Burrow

981
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 2: is able to move around and use his athleticism, it

982
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 2: adds a different dimension to the Bengals offense.

983
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 1: And what I really liked about is when he moved around, we.

984
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:17,360
Speaker 2: Saw full feisty Joe Burrow, meaning Joe Burrow with the

985
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:20,719
Speaker 2: little swag. Joe Burrow with the confidence Joe Burrow that

986
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 2: has that infectious nature that look, we're always in contention

987
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:26,240
Speaker 2: as long as I'm playing for the Bengals.

988
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 1: That's the Joe Burrow that everyone wanted to see.

989
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:31,320
Speaker 2: Now that we have seen that, we've seen Zach Taylor

990
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 2: kind of open up the offense. Give Joe Burrow the keys,

991
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 2: and this team looks like the team that we saw

992
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:37,839
Speaker 2: go to the Super Bowl. Looks like the team that

993
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:40,399
Speaker 2: we've seen kind of lord over the AFC the last

994
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 2: couple of years.

995
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 1: Even though you.

996
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 2: Can't see the Chiefs won the Super Bowl last year,

997
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:44,479
Speaker 2: they had their number.

998
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:46,320
Speaker 1: This team can beat anybody, and if.

999
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:49,720
Speaker 2: They're able to put a beat down on the Buffalo Bills,

1000
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 2: we're back to talking about the Bengals being in that

1001
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 2: conversation again.

1002
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:54,880
Speaker 10: I'm with you right then, and I tell you what

1003
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 10: I like the Bengals to win. Obviously, it's a home game,

1004
00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:59,279
Speaker 10: although I don't think the home team this year in

1005
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 10: the National Football League means that much as far as

1006
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 10: games are concern. But it's gonna be very emotional, because

1007
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 10: that's what you said when DeMar Harmlan coming back. The

1008
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 10: Buffalo Bill's here Sunday night, the Nation watches this game,

1009
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 10: it's a big deal. And also coming off that San

1010
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:16,760
Speaker 10: Francisco win, which I think you know, it's a confidence booster.

1011
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:18,480
Speaker 10: I mean, now you played the game, you know what

1012
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:20,799
Speaker 10: it's like. You have a game that you win that

1013
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 10: perhaps you weren't expected to win on the road in

1014
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 10: San Francisco, a great team, perhaps maybe the number one

1015
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 10: team or number two team in the league, and you're

1016
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 10: coming up that win. That gives you a lot of

1017
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 10: confidence coming back home to play a team like Buffalo.

1018
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, you do have a lot of confidence coming back

1019
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:38,440
Speaker 2: home to play Buffalo. And let's be honest, let's look

1020
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 2: at a Buffalo Bill side of it. This is a

1021
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 2: team that has kind of existed as a one man show,

1022
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 2: meaning it's Josh Allen and the Josh Allen experience. However,

1023
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 2: he goes as Buffalo Bill's teams go, whether he's running, throwing,

1024
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 2: making improvisational plays, which is his specially, he kind of

1025
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:56,799
Speaker 2: sets the table for this offense because he's such a

1026
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:59,919
Speaker 2: unique talent. They need Josh Allen to be that guy

1027
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:01,400
Speaker 2: to beat the Cincinnati Bengals.

1028
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 1: As much as we like to.

1029
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 2: Talk about the Buffalo Bills being one of the top

1030
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 2: teens in the AFC. They are, but they're not as

1031
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 2: talented as some of those teams. What they are is

1032
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 2: a good team with a great quarterback. And so they

1033
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 2: need number seventeen to play like a great quarterback today

1034
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 2: to have any chance of knocking off the Bengals. If

1035
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:21,839
Speaker 2: he plays at that level, the MVP level that we've seen, yes,

1036
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 2: they have a chance because the team will feed off

1037
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 2: of the way that he performs. They need him perform

1038
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 2: at a high level. And so I'm looking at how

1039
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:33,319
Speaker 2: does he perform, What does Ken Dorsey do to set

1040
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 2: the quarterback up for success? And is there anybody else

1041
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:38,919
Speaker 2: that can step up outside of Stefan Diggs to help

1042
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:41,880
Speaker 2: him get it going because this is an all hands

1043
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 2: on deck situation.

1044
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:44,800
Speaker 1: They need him to be at his best.

1045
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 10: Well, I'll tell you this, since Joe Burrow has started

1046
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 10: to look like themselves, they haven't lost the game. They

1047
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 10: want out Arizona, they wanted home with Seattle that had

1048
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:56,399
Speaker 10: the bye week, and they wanted San Francisco. I think

1049
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:58,239
Speaker 10: that's a real good sign and I think that's a

1050
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 10: great confidence builder. As I mentioned with this, you look

1051
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 10: at Buffalo. I mean they lose Jacksonville in London. You

1052
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 10: saw that game. They didn't look good there. They were

1053
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:09,239
Speaker 10: struggling against the Giants. They beat them, but they beat

1054
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:11,440
Speaker 10: them fourteen to nine, and then they lose at in

1055
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 10: New England. This is a team that you just don't

1056
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 10: know what you get on any given week.

1057
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:18,399
Speaker 1: No, you just don't know what you can get.

1058
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:21,800
Speaker 2: I mean they are They're really like a boxing crackerjacks.

1059
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 2: You never know what you can get at the bottom

1060
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:25,440
Speaker 2: of the box, and you're hoping that you get the

1061
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:30,320
Speaker 2: good version, but you don't know. And what's really appearent

1062
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 2: now in the AFC, in particularly, the seven teams that

1063
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:35,719
Speaker 2: are going to the postseason are going to be the

1064
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:38,239
Speaker 2: seven teams to get the best play from their quarterback.

1065
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 2: Now that puts Cleveland in the buying because we don't

1066
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 2: know if Deshaun Watson is going to come back.

1067
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 1: We don't even know.

1068
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:45,400
Speaker 2: DeShawn Watson if he's capable of playing good football again.

1069
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:48,160
Speaker 2: But the seven teams that are gonna make it to

1070
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:51,319
Speaker 2: the tournament are gonna be the seven with quarterbacks that

1071
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:53,920
Speaker 2: are playing at a high level. So you're confident that

1072
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 2: Cincinnati can be there with Joe Burrow. You're confident that

1073
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 2: the Buffalo Bills can be there with Josh Allen. But

1074
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 2: for the Buffalo Bills and the cincinnat Bengals to live

1075
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:05,839
Speaker 2: up to what we would call Super Bowl aspirations, both

1076
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 2: of those quarterbacks have to play at MVP levels to

1077
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:09,840
Speaker 2: get it done.

1078
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 10: Yeah, and I will say this. I mean, as much

1079
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 10: as I love the National Football League and the game

1080
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:16,840
Speaker 10: of football in general, I don't think there is any

1081
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:21,840
Speaker 10: sport that is more dependent upon one position, which is

1082
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 10: the quarterback, than any other sport in America, in the

1083
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 10: world perhaps. And I say this, and I come back

1084
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 10: to say that these personnel people and general managers them

1085
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 10: when they go to the draft, how in the hell

1086
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 10: could you not pick a quarterback Because if you look,

1087
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:38,880
Speaker 10: as you've just mentioned, if you don't have that quarterback,

1088
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Speaker 10: you're watching the games on TV with me for the playoffs,

1089
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 10: youve got to get a quarterback. And for them not

1090
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:46,880
Speaker 10: to draft quarterbacks, to me, it's mind boggling. Mind boggling,

1091
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 10: it is.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not even really the drafting of the quarterback

1093
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 2: is the development and the support of the quarterback. We've

1094
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 2: seen a lot of teams trying to expand picks on quarterbacks,

1095
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 2: but they haven't had solid plans that will enable the

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00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:01,440
Speaker 2: quarterback to play it high level. Thinking about Chicago and

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00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:04,359
Speaker 2: the struggles that they've had with Justin Fields, I mean,

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00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 2: just think about the struggles that we're seeing in New

1099
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:07,919
Speaker 2: England with Mac Jones and some of the other young

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Speaker 2: quarterbacks that are trying to kind of make their mark

1101
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 2: in the league. It's not only about drafting new quarterback.

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00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:14,520
Speaker 2: It makes sure you get the right guy, but then

1103
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 2: surrounding him with the right pieces to be successful. All

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00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:20,680
Speaker 2: of those things come into it, but it's really apparent

1105
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:23,799
Speaker 2: in the AFC more than any If you don't have

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00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 2: a franchise quarterback, or if you don't have a guy

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00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:28,719
Speaker 2: who you're capable of kind of dressing up and making

1108
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:31,719
Speaker 2: and helping him perform at a franchise level, you have

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00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 2: no chance because and you have to have one.

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Speaker 10: When the draft was when they had the draft, there

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00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 10: was a toss up between Joe Burrow and Justin Herbert.

1112
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Speaker 10: Right now, Justin Herbert on the Chargers. They're below five hundred,

1113
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:47,440
Speaker 10: like three and four. Okay, you put Joe Burrow on

1114
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:50,080
Speaker 10: the Chargers, would that turn things around? Do you put

1115
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 10: Justin Herbert on the Bengals? Would they be as competitive.

1116
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:55,920
Speaker 10: I don't know. I mean Justin Herbert right now, to

1117
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:59,520
Speaker 10: me is light years behind the talent level of Joe Burrow.

1118
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:02,400
Speaker 10: Is the people around him, is the system, is the coaching?

1119
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:04,240
Speaker 10: Help me out on that one.

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Speaker 2: You're not interested in the baby because Joe Burrow, Justin Herbert,

1121
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:10,359
Speaker 2: Justin Herbert, talent wise, is as talent. I would say

1122
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:12,840
Speaker 2: he's a superior talent to Joe Burrow in terms of talent.

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00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 2: And when I let me define talent like physical ability,

1124
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 2: natural gifts, arm talent, athleticism, all that, Justin Herbert has

1125
00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:25,319
Speaker 2: more than Joe Burrow. He's bigger, faster, stronger, taller, better arm.

1126
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:28,759
Speaker 2: What Justin Herbert doesn't have that Joe Burrow has is

1127
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:32,759
Speaker 2: an undeniable confidence and an undeniable belief, unwavering belief in

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00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:33,440
Speaker 2: his ability.

1129
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:34,640
Speaker 1: He believes that when.

1130
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Speaker 2: He steps on the field, he's the baddest man on

1131
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 2: the planet, and the team feeds off of that. Justin

1132
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:41,840
Speaker 2: Herbert doesn't carry himself in that light. And when you

1133
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:45,839
Speaker 2: have Justin Herbert, who's more I would say, quiet, more cerebral,

1134
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 2: not necessarily as outgoing as Joe Burrow, Well it takes

1135
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:53,760
Speaker 2: a little more and I'll be quite honest, Justin Herbert

1136
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:56,200
Speaker 2: is playing for a coach in Brandon Staley, who may

1137
00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:58,680
Speaker 2: be the smart yarded coach who does too much. I

1138
00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:02,399
Speaker 2: would say that he is under mind his quarterbacks opportunities

1139
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:05,640
Speaker 2: or chances for success by doing some of the wild, risky,

1140
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 2: analytic things that he's done. Zach Taylor may not be

1141
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:11,239
Speaker 2: the best coach on the planet. Well, what I would

1142
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 2: give him credit for doing is he understand that it's

1143
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:15,560
Speaker 2: a players game. He has found a way to put

1144
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 2: players in a position to make place and then he

1145
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 2: gets out the way. Typically in the National Football League,

1146
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:22,960
Speaker 2: your best players determine whether you win or lose. If

1147
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 2: your best players out play the other team's best players.

1148
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:26,480
Speaker 1: You win. It's as simple as that.

1149
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 2: And what Zack Taylor has done is he found a

1150
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:30,959
Speaker 2: way to unlock his best players by getting out the way.

1151
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 2: Brandon Staley is in the way of his best players.

1152
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:35,480
Speaker 2: That's why they have n't won in LA.

1153
00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 10: Yeah, I hear what you're saying. I'll tell you something else.

1154
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:40,719
Speaker 10: I'm looking at statistics right now, which really means nothing.

1155
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:43,919
Speaker 10: And Joe Burrow obviously was heard. So this encompasses when

1156
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:47,440
Speaker 10: he was hurt but his percentage for completions is like

1157
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:50,840
Speaker 10: maybe sixty six to sixty seven percent. Justin Herbert's almost

1158
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 10: sixty nine percent, and Justin Herbert are thirteen touchdowns to

1159
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:59,440
Speaker 10: four interceptions. Borrow was ten and four, So the statistics

1160
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:02,239
Speaker 10: almost one another. But again, as you say, I think

1161
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:04,200
Speaker 10: it's the coaching in the system that he's in and

1162
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 10: Brandon Staley right now, they should be better than three

1163
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:08,560
Speaker 10: and four of the Chargers.

1164
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:12,120
Speaker 1: They absolutely should be better. They should be a better team.

1165
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:15,320
Speaker 2: They have a talented team, a team that was expected

1166
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:18,239
Speaker 2: to really knock off the Kansaity Chiefs and AFC West.

1167
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:19,719
Speaker 2: They just haven't been able to get it done. They

1168
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:24,319
Speaker 2: give away guys, and as my podcast partner loves to say,

1169
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 2: Daniel Jeremiah, he always talks about, I've never seen a

1170
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:28,840
Speaker 2: team get hit with the right hand more than the Chargers,

1171
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:32,239
Speaker 2: meaning that you hear Bill Belichick talk about a we're

1172
00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:34,320
Speaker 2: going to force the opponent to play left handed, meaning

1173
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:36,480
Speaker 2: we're gonna take away their best two options. We're gonn

1174
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:38,799
Speaker 2: take away their top three plays. We're gonna make them

1175
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:41,000
Speaker 2: go down the list of their game plan. We're not

1176
00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:44,279
Speaker 2: going to allow ourselves to get beat by their best stuff. Nope,

1177
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:46,840
Speaker 2: the Charges. We saw the Charges surrender big yards to

1178
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 2: Tarek Hill. We saw them give up a ton of

1179
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 2: plays to like the top stars on other teams. Is

1180
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:59,120
Speaker 2: really mind boggling that this team cannot eliminate an erace

1181
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 2: some of the opponent's top options, but they just don't

1182
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:04,800
Speaker 2: do it. He tess tendency to just play his defense,

1183
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:08,360
Speaker 2: and you just wonder why why don't they take away

1184
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:10,560
Speaker 2: the opponent's top weapons, because if they would do that,

1185
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:11,680
Speaker 2: they would win more games.

1186
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:15,080
Speaker 1: They just haven't figured that part of the equation out.

1187
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:18,640
Speaker 10: I hear you. I mean, I'm there, But I think

1188
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:20,879
Speaker 10: that he probably would be the best coach to go

1189
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:23,920
Speaker 10: on a weekly basis. I think nobody wants to be

1190
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:27,319
Speaker 10: the first coach. But since since Vegas basically got the

1191
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:30,440
Speaker 10: hammer done this week right now, the other teams will

1192
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:31,280
Speaker 10: be following suit.

1193
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:34,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, speaking of that, like what about Vecas like that?

1194
00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:34,880
Speaker 1: That's interesting.

1195
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:39,280
Speaker 2: Josh McDaniels, DeVante Adams, some of those veteran players appeared

1196
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:42,440
Speaker 2: to kind of get Josh McDaniels up out the building.

1197
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 2: I thought, what was interesting when you listen to the

1198
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:49,719
Speaker 2: presser Champ Kelly and Antonio appears both made it a

1199
00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:52,680
Speaker 2: concerted effort to talk about being positive with the team,

1200
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:54,920
Speaker 2: and within the building, it appeared that it was a

1201
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:59,759
Speaker 2: very negative building, meaning the culture was negative, a lot

1202
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:02,520
Speaker 2: of has simism, a lot of woe with me and

1203
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:03,120
Speaker 2: the danger.

1204
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Speaker 1: And I think Josh McDaniels learned this. Matt Patricia learned this.

1205
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Speaker 2: When you step into a place that's had some success

1206
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:12,919
Speaker 2: prior to you, you have to acknowledge that success. Matt

1207
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:16,759
Speaker 2: Patricia never acknowledged Jim Calwell's success as his predecessor, and

1208
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 2: it hurts him because the team has success, and he

1209
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 2: came in with a negative approach that the team didn't

1210
00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:24,600
Speaker 2: buy into. Josh McDaniels with the Raiders, say what you

1211
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:27,719
Speaker 2: want about Rich Passaccia and those guys there were ten

1212
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:30,440
Speaker 2: and seven they made the playoffs. Josh McDaniels came in

1213
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:32,640
Speaker 2: with the Patriot Wade, which tends to have like a

1214
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:33,520
Speaker 2: negative tone.

1215
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Speaker 1: It didn't work. I just wondered.

1216
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:38,800
Speaker 2: One well owners learned maybe Chris shopping in New England.

1217
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:41,920
Speaker 2: Unless you're taking Belichick, none of the other stuff works.

1218
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:44,040
Speaker 2: And then two is a player's game. Can you be

1219
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:46,160
Speaker 2: more positive with the players, particularly when you take over

1220
00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:47,960
Speaker 2: a fairly successful program.

1221
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 1: Right.

1222
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Speaker 3: But you know what, you make a great point because

1223
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:54,880
Speaker 3: a lot of times when a coach is fired beat

1224
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:57,719
Speaker 3: the college level or on the pros, that's usually a

1225
00:55:57,840 --> 00:56:01,759
Speaker 3: rallying cry by the players sing they felt bad the guy,

1226
00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:02,520
Speaker 3: they liked him.

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Speaker 10: That wasn't the case when the Raiders got rid of

1228
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 10: Josh mcdie's. You know, and honestly, you may see them

1229
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:12,520
Speaker 10: rallying around right now because they play the Giants. To say, afternoon,

1230
00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:15,880
Speaker 10: they're hosting the Giants in Vegas. I think they pound

1231
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:17,239
Speaker 10: the Giants today. I really do.

1232
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I think you did have an emotional lift

1233
00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:24,359
Speaker 2: for the first game. There'll be an emotional lyft because

1234
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:27,440
Speaker 2: ap Antonio Peers will play on that part of it.

1235
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:29,440
Speaker 2: He talked about being a Raider and growing up in

1236
00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:33,560
Speaker 2: South central a knowing ap he's a very intense emotional guy,

1237
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:35,680
Speaker 2: but he's also had a lot of success and when

1238
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:37,600
Speaker 2: he talked about his coaching influences. This is a guy

1239
00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:39,920
Speaker 2: that was an undrafted free agent that made the Washington

1240
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:41,880
Speaker 2: football team and Marty Schottenheim was there.

1241
00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:44,040
Speaker 1: Having played for Marty, Marty.

1242
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:45,520
Speaker 2: Is a guy that's a stickler for the details when

1243
00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:48,000
Speaker 2: it comes to fundamentals and how to play good football.

1244
00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:49,960
Speaker 1: He then took that and parlayed that to.

1245
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:51,799
Speaker 2: An opportunity with the New York Giants where he won

1246
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:56,440
Speaker 2: a Super Bowl with under Tom Kauff. Tom Kaff another meticulous,

1247
00:56:56,520 --> 00:56:59,799
Speaker 2: detailed coach. So Ap has all of that stuff in

1248
00:56:59,840 --> 00:57:02,960
Speaker 2: his back. He's going to do it with his own personality.

1249
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:04,719
Speaker 2: And I like the fact that he's not calling the

1250
00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:06,080
Speaker 2: game on offense or defense.

1251
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:08,400
Speaker 1: He's just a head coach. He's just tying it together.

1252
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:11,239
Speaker 2: I know people will try and maybe make some similarities

1253
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:13,919
Speaker 2: in a vague way between the former player that Jeff

1254
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:16,479
Speaker 2: Saturday was coming in whatever, But I see this more

1255
00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:18,200
Speaker 2: like Ap like.

1256
00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:20,800
Speaker 1: Dan Campbell and what Dan Campbell was able to do with.

1257
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:24,800
Speaker 2: The Detroit Lions force of nature, with his personality, change

1258
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:28,840
Speaker 2: the culture of the program, talking about grit, toughness, blue

1259
00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:31,520
Speaker 2: collar stuff. Look for Antonio appears to have that kind

1260
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:35,000
Speaker 2: of effect on the Las Vegas Raiders. Right there, you go,

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Speaker 1: Look, we're gonna take a break right now.

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Speaker 2: We'll come back on the other side talk some more

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Speaker 2: about NFL and what's going on.

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Speaker 3: What's the decision performance related Well, we'll let you know

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Speaker 3: in just.

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Speaker 4: About a minute.

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Speaker 3: you why. We'll talk about this. Bears Saints game today

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00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:36,520
Speaker 3: at New Orleans is not a great game, not a

1282
00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 3: big game, Bears two and six Saints four and four.

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00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:41,400
Speaker 3: But I will tell you this much, Bucky. Every game

1284
00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:45,280
Speaker 3: that the Bear's quarterback Justin Fields misses with that thumb injury,

1285
00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:48,280
Speaker 3: it deprives the Bears of an opportunity to evaluate him.

1286
00:58:48,320 --> 00:58:51,040
Speaker 3: It's all about evaluation right now, because the Bears will

1287
00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:54,520
Speaker 3: they exercise his option on his twenty twenty five salary,

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00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:57,120
Speaker 3: and the Bears are in a position, obviously to draft

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00:58:57,160 --> 00:58:58,840
Speaker 3: another quarterback on twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 4: What do they do.

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00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:01,520
Speaker 3: This guy's got to get on the field to find

1292
00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:03,200
Speaker 3: that if he's the quarterback of the future.

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Speaker 2: No, I mean, without question, the injury certainly is impacting

1294
00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:11,360
Speaker 2: the evaluation, and the longer that he sits on the sideline, obviously,

1295
00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:14,000
Speaker 2: the more that the Bears will think about taking somebody else.

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00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:18,040
Speaker 2: It's a tricky situation because you've seen flashes from Justin

1297
00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:20,600
Speaker 2: fields where you believe that maybe he would be a

1298
00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:23,720
Speaker 2: good player, but you don't have enough tangible evidence to say.

1299
00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:27,640
Speaker 2: And the evaluation will be not justin fields in terms

1300
00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:30,320
Speaker 2: of just him on his own, but justin fields versus

1301
00:59:30,320 --> 00:59:34,000
Speaker 2: the potential of a young quarterback coming in as a

1302
00:59:34,080 --> 00:59:40,240
Speaker 2: draft pick, and what the young quarterback plus the other

1303
00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:43,080
Speaker 2: stuff that the resources will allow you to bring about

1304
00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:46,280
Speaker 2: what that could do versus justin fields. So Justin is

1305
00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:49,280
Speaker 2: not only going against the quarterback, he's also going against

1306
00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:51,520
Speaker 2: and less make a deal what's behind door number two?

1307
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:54,640
Speaker 2: What else can come along with a young quarterback? For instance,

1308
00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:56,560
Speaker 2: like when you saw Brock Purdy, because he's on such

1309
00:59:56,560 --> 00:59:58,520
Speaker 2: a cheap deal, they were able to go and get

1310
00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:00,480
Speaker 2: a Javon Hargrave, They could take a t and get

1311
01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:03,320
Speaker 2: a Christan McCaffrey and those things. So what else can

1312
01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:06,400
Speaker 2: the Bears get with a young quarterback? That is what

1313
01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:08,280
Speaker 2: Justin Field is going up against. So that's why he

1314
01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:10,960
Speaker 2: has to be exceptional in my mind to keep the

1315
01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:12,920
Speaker 2: Bears from thinking about getting another quarterback.

1316
01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:15,600
Speaker 3: I agree with you wholeheartle In right now. The Saints

1317
01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:18,080
Speaker 3: last week they beat the Colt thirty eight twenty seven,

1318
01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:20,520
Speaker 3: and in that game, the Saints had five hundred eleven

1319
01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:22,880
Speaker 3: yards on offense and the win that was the most

1320
01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:26,040
Speaker 3: yards in the post s Drew Brees Sean Payton era

1321
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:30,920
Speaker 3: the most yards total since twenty eighteen. That's amazing. And

1322
01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:32,600
Speaker 3: I tell you what, I think the Saints are a

1323
01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:35,200
Speaker 3: more complete team. I think the Saints beat the Bears today,

1324
01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:37,240
Speaker 3: and the Bears right now are going nowhere and they'll

1325
01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:38,520
Speaker 3: be two and seven after today.

1326
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Speaker 1: I feel you on that.

1327
01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:43,439
Speaker 2: I'm with you on that because I think the Saints

1328
01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:45,640
Speaker 2: are a pretty good team. You know, they just haven't

1329
01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:47,320
Speaker 2: played up to date. Now, they got to get more

1330
01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:50,880
Speaker 2: from Derek Carr. But this enough to beat the Bears,

1331
01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:52,720
Speaker 2: more than enough to be the Bears.

1332
01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:55,520
Speaker 3: Okay, I got a question on this one. Vikings and

1333
01:00:55,600 --> 01:00:57,960
Speaker 3: Falcons today at Atlanta. Both teams are four and four.

1334
01:00:58,080 --> 01:01:01,400
Speaker 3: Obviously Kirk Cousins is out. Sure Dobbs obviously woud probably

1335
01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:03,880
Speaker 3: be in. Falcons lost last week to the Titans twenty

1336
01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:07,280
Speaker 3: eight twenty three. Desmond Ridder didn't return after being checked

1337
01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:10,200
Speaker 3: for a concussion and that Falcons loss. Now, the coach,

1338
01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:14,120
Speaker 3: Arthur Smith said the decision was not performance related.

1339
01:01:14,200 --> 01:01:15,080
Speaker 4: I don't believe him.

1340
01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:20,040
Speaker 3: Desmond Ridder has seven turnovers over the last two plus games,

1341
01:01:20,320 --> 01:01:23,560
Speaker 3: and the Falcons obviously still one dimensional offense. That's a

1342
01:01:23,640 --> 01:01:26,120
Speaker 3: running offense. That's basically what it is. I think they

1343
01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:28,880
Speaker 3: got a real short lease right now. And Desbond Ridder

1344
01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:29,720
Speaker 3: is their quarterback.

1345
01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:33,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean sure leases is the thing. I would

1346
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:35,480
Speaker 2: think Taylor henike is going to get the start. I

1347
01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:37,320
Speaker 2: think it might be over for Desmon Ridder unless Tyler

1348
01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:39,960
Speaker 2: Henikey messes it up. This is a team that is

1349
01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:42,040
Speaker 2: so close. I mean, their quarterback away from really being

1350
01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:43,720
Speaker 2: a really good team, a team that could be the

1351
01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:46,080
Speaker 2: top team in the NFC. They just haven't been able

1352
01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:48,920
Speaker 2: to get the consistent performance from the quarterback young quarterback

1353
01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:50,400
Speaker 2: and Desmond Rider is still trying to figure out how

1354
01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:52,000
Speaker 2: to play in the league. Too many turnovers in the

1355
01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:54,320
Speaker 2: red zone. That's why they hand the ball to Talahanikey.

1356
01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:57,400
Speaker 2: We'll see if Talahanikkey is getting ugh. Remember he sparked

1357
01:01:57,440 --> 01:02:00,360
Speaker 2: the Washington football team a few years ago, has some

1358
01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:02,800
Speaker 2: success there, but he has never been able to sustain

1359
01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:05,680
Speaker 2: it over the long call. But maybe for a short

1360
01:02:06,160 --> 01:02:08,600
Speaker 2: stint he gives the Falcons what they need and said

1361
01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:10,280
Speaker 2: maybe the young quarterback can kind of figure it out.

1362
01:02:10,680 --> 01:02:12,920
Speaker 3: Right And for those who were uninformed, the quarterback the

1363
01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:15,040
Speaker 3: minis of the Vikings, Kirk Cousins. He's out for the

1364
01:02:15,080 --> 01:02:17,760
Speaker 3: season with a torn achilles. The team confirmed that, I

1365
01:02:17,800 --> 01:02:20,240
Speaker 3: think the day before Halloweens, who obviously it was a

1366
01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:22,080
Speaker 3: trick or treat it certainly was a trick for them.

1367
01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:24,920
Speaker 3: And look what the Vikings have to do right now,

1368
01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:26,960
Speaker 3: And I'm not an offensive coordinator. The next time they

1369
01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:29,120
Speaker 3: asked me to do that'll be my first. The Vikings

1370
01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:31,160
Speaker 3: have to rely on the rushing attack with us. Why

1371
01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:33,680
Speaker 3: they want to control the clock. It's common sense, you know,

1372
01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:35,720
Speaker 3: most of this stuff, Bucky really is common sense.

1373
01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:36,280
Speaker 1: You know what.

1374
01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:39,680
Speaker 3: I would love to be an offensive coordinator for one game.

1375
01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:42,720
Speaker 3: One game, you know, and these guys stay up till midnight.

1376
01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:46,400
Speaker 3: And look, I watched the Colorado game last night. At

1377
01:02:46,440 --> 01:02:49,040
Speaker 3: the end of the first half, they're passing the football,

1378
01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:51,400
Speaker 3: were under a minute to go, and it created a

1379
01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:54,240
Speaker 3: situation where Oregon State got the ball back and they

1380
01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:55,040
Speaker 3: scored a touchdown.

1381
01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:56,720
Speaker 4: It buried Colorado last night.

1382
01:02:57,200 --> 01:02:59,720
Speaker 3: Last night, Deion Sanders admitted after the game that they

1383
01:02:59,720 --> 01:03:00,720
Speaker 3: should around the ball.

1384
01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:01,440
Speaker 4: I don't get it.

1385
01:03:01,720 --> 01:03:03,680
Speaker 3: I mean, everybody tries to be too cute and I'll

1386
01:03:03,720 --> 01:03:06,840
Speaker 3: fox their opponent. It doesn't work that way. Go with basics.

1387
01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:08,360
Speaker 3: That's basically what they gotta do.

1388
01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:11,320
Speaker 2: No, I mean, the teams that win are teams that

1389
01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:13,120
Speaker 2: are the masters of the basics. They do a really

1390
01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:15,200
Speaker 2: good job of understanding who they are, what they are,

1391
01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:17,080
Speaker 2: and how you have to get it done to win,

1392
01:03:17,240 --> 01:03:18,760
Speaker 2: Like meaning, what are the things that you have to

1393
01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:21,880
Speaker 2: do to win? And most games really are about not

1394
01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:24,360
Speaker 2: beating yourselves. Don't turn the ball over, don't give up,

1395
01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:27,080
Speaker 2: big plays, win the kicking game, and they finally don't

1396
01:03:27,320 --> 01:03:29,680
Speaker 2: have accessive penalties. You do those four things, you're gonna

1397
01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:32,600
Speaker 2: win a lot of games, whether it's college, youth, high school,

1398
01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:35,120
Speaker 2: whether it's just a part of the deal. And I

1399
01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:37,520
Speaker 2: am very, very surprised when you talk about Dion and

1400
01:03:37,600 --> 01:03:40,320
Speaker 2: not understanding that he has a coaching staff that is

1401
01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:42,440
Speaker 2: late with not only experienced coaches, but he has a

1402
01:03:42,480 --> 01:03:43,520
Speaker 2: lot of pro coaches around.

1403
01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:43,800
Speaker 1: Right.

1404
01:03:44,120 --> 01:03:46,840
Speaker 2: Pro game is all about situational where and it's understanding

1405
01:03:46,840 --> 01:03:49,200
Speaker 2: how to play situational football. So for them to botch

1406
01:03:49,400 --> 01:03:54,920
Speaker 2: that situation really really surprising, really surprising, just very surprised

1407
01:03:54,960 --> 01:03:56,360
Speaker 2: that they weren't able to get that part done.

1408
01:03:57,080 --> 01:03:58,920
Speaker 3: I couldn't believe it, really. I mean, what I had

1409
01:03:58,920 --> 01:03:59,880
Speaker 3: to do, I think it was a minute to sit

1410
01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:02,640
Speaker 3: team left, well, maybe a minute six, you know, run

1411
01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:04,800
Speaker 3: the ball, run out the first half, that's what they

1412
01:04:04,840 --> 01:04:07,240
Speaker 3: gotta do. And I really buried that team right there,

1413
01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:09,600
Speaker 3: and then you know, they scored a touchdown Oregon State

1414
01:04:09,680 --> 01:04:11,000
Speaker 3: did and that was it for Colorado.

1415
01:04:11,040 --> 01:04:13,000
Speaker 4: And I'm a Colorado fan. I want to see him

1416
01:04:13,040 --> 01:04:13,320
Speaker 4: do well.

1417
01:04:13,640 --> 01:04:16,040
Speaker 3: I want to see Dion do really well because you know,

1418
01:04:16,240 --> 01:04:19,040
Speaker 3: he basically is the new face of college football.

1419
01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:19,760
Speaker 4: What do what I mean by that.

1420
01:04:20,160 --> 01:04:22,919
Speaker 3: He's the guy that kind of revamped the roster under

1421
01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:25,000
Speaker 3: the new system, which is the portal. You know, other

1422
01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:27,960
Speaker 3: coaches can't do it. I live in the greatest Cincinnati area.

1423
01:04:28,200 --> 01:04:31,120
Speaker 3: They've lost seven straight football games. Coach Scott side of

1424
01:04:31,160 --> 01:04:33,360
Speaker 3: Field of Cincinnati, he can't get it done. You know,

1425
01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:35,560
Speaker 3: go out there and get players. They're out there for

1426
01:04:35,640 --> 01:04:37,160
Speaker 3: the picking. Go out and get them.

1427
01:04:37,320 --> 01:04:39,040
Speaker 4: They have not one. They're the only team that has

1428
01:04:39,120 --> 01:04:41,080
Speaker 4: not won in the Big twelve. Winless.

1429
01:04:41,240 --> 01:04:43,200
Speaker 3: They won their first two games and they dropped their

1430
01:04:43,240 --> 01:04:46,240
Speaker 3: last seven. They lost yesterday to Central Florida. It's amazing.

1431
01:04:46,240 --> 01:04:48,840
Speaker 3: And he's getting booed out on his talk show this week,

1432
01:04:49,200 --> 01:04:53,000
Speaker 3: he's basically again criticizing the fans. Come on, really, you're

1433
01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:55,160
Speaker 3: getting booed. You're not getting the job done. These guys

1434
01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:57,919
Speaker 3: are paying customers. They have the ability and the right

1435
01:04:58,200 --> 01:04:58,720
Speaker 3: to boo you.

1436
01:04:59,200 --> 01:05:00,360
Speaker 4: They and he should be booed.

1437
01:05:01,600 --> 01:05:04,200
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, here's the thing, and maybe Felko got

1438
01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:06,160
Speaker 2: out at the right time because the transition going to

1439
01:05:06,200 --> 01:05:07,640
Speaker 2: the Big twelve was always going to be a big

1440
01:05:07,680 --> 01:05:09,360
Speaker 2: one for Cincinnati.

1441
01:05:09,560 --> 01:05:11,520
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a different conference. It's a tough conference.

1442
01:05:11,560 --> 01:05:13,480
Speaker 2: You got to level up a little bit coming out

1443
01:05:13,520 --> 01:05:17,400
Speaker 2: of the conference that they came from, and so when

1444
01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:20,280
Speaker 2: they lose those games, it's a reminder one, we got

1445
01:05:20,360 --> 01:05:22,000
Speaker 2: to change our recruiting base a little bit. We got

1446
01:05:22,120 --> 01:05:23,920
Speaker 2: to make sure that we get the right people to

1447
01:05:24,080 --> 01:05:26,880
Speaker 2: play and compete in this conference compared to other conferences.

1448
01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:28,640
Speaker 2: It was going to be a bit of a transition.

1449
01:05:29,600 --> 01:05:33,200
Speaker 2: Saturfield one should have acknowledged that. Hopefully he could have

1450
01:05:33,240 --> 01:05:35,840
Speaker 2: acknowledged that to a point where fans would have been patient,

1451
01:05:36,080 --> 01:05:39,479
Speaker 2: understanding the process and getting ready to compete at that level.

1452
01:05:40,160 --> 01:05:43,160
Speaker 2: Very reminiscent of Nebraska going to the Big Ten and

1453
01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:45,520
Speaker 2: Maryland going to the Big Ten, Like, we haven't seen

1454
01:05:45,600 --> 01:05:48,120
Speaker 2: those teams win at a high level yet because it

1455
01:05:48,200 --> 01:05:50,439
Speaker 2: takes a while to transition to being able to play

1456
01:05:50,960 --> 01:05:54,240
Speaker 2: in a very competitive league, especially when your program takes.

1457
01:05:54,040 --> 01:05:58,000
Speaker 1: A step up. So that's the reality of it.

1458
01:05:58,080 --> 01:06:01,480
Speaker 2: But Saturville, look, you can't necessarily fire back at the

1459
01:06:01,560 --> 01:06:03,440
Speaker 2: fans all the time, but you can give them an

1460
01:06:03,440 --> 01:06:05,320
Speaker 2: explanation as to why we're building this program.

1461
01:06:05,360 --> 01:06:06,120
Speaker 1: It's gonna take some time.

1462
01:06:06,160 --> 01:06:08,040
Speaker 2: We're going to be back to where we were in

1463
01:06:08,120 --> 01:06:10,800
Speaker 2: a College Football Playoff is just a different team. You know.

1464
01:06:10,880 --> 01:06:13,040
Speaker 3: What doesn't help him is that he bolted out of

1465
01:06:13,120 --> 01:06:15,800
Speaker 3: Louisville and Louisville's doing real well and he comes.

1466
01:06:15,640 --> 01:06:19,160
Speaker 4: To Cincinnati and they're on their deathbed. Doesn't look that.

1467
01:06:20,040 --> 01:06:23,760
Speaker 1: It doesn't look good. Now, what Louisville did is what

1468
01:06:23,880 --> 01:06:25,000
Speaker 1: you've been advocating.

1469
01:06:25,400 --> 01:06:30,000
Speaker 2: They've dominated the portal, they've dominated the transfer portal, and

1470
01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:33,200
Speaker 2: so it's been they've been able to do it, you know,

1471
01:06:34,000 --> 01:06:35,280
Speaker 2: and then they blitzed.

1472
01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:36,200
Speaker 1: They do a really good.

1473
01:06:36,120 --> 01:06:38,320
Speaker 2: Job of coming after it, and so Saturfiel has to

1474
01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:40,880
Speaker 2: figure out a way to get it done. But he

1475
01:06:41,120 --> 01:06:43,520
Speaker 2: needs to ask for my patients from a fan base

1476
01:06:43,600 --> 01:06:46,080
Speaker 2: that has become a custom to win it, because they

1477
01:06:46,200 --> 01:06:47,160
Speaker 2: won a lot in Cincinnati.

1478
01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:49,520
Speaker 3: Right now, look, you coached, and you scouted, and you

1479
01:06:49,640 --> 01:06:52,200
Speaker 3: did everything you can. You played the game. If I'm

1480
01:06:52,280 --> 01:06:54,400
Speaker 3: on the staff of a football team, you know, I'm

1481
01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:56,040
Speaker 3: not so certain. I want a guy that's really an

1482
01:06:56,080 --> 01:06:58,720
Speaker 3: expertise there in ex's and o's. I want a salesman.

1483
01:06:58,960 --> 01:07:00,560
Speaker 3: I want a guy that could go and someone's home.

1484
01:07:00,760 --> 01:07:02,720
Speaker 3: I talk to mommy and daddy and say, I want

1485
01:07:02,760 --> 01:07:04,320
Speaker 3: you a kid to play for me, because I guarantee

1486
01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:06,919
Speaker 3: you'll play. I guarantee you'll graduate. That's what I want.

1487
01:07:07,080 --> 01:07:08,960
Speaker 4: And you know what, I probably could be a pretty

1488
01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:09,600
Speaker 4: good salesman.

1489
01:07:09,720 --> 01:07:11,560
Speaker 3: I don't know only extras and o's, but I can

1490
01:07:11,640 --> 01:07:13,920
Speaker 3: knock on doors and I be relentless trying to get

1491
01:07:13,960 --> 01:07:15,480
Speaker 3: a kid to come to my school.

1492
01:07:16,960 --> 01:07:19,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean some people opt for that.

1493
01:07:19,520 --> 01:07:21,160
Speaker 2: I mean, there's so many different ways that you can

1494
01:07:21,240 --> 01:07:23,520
Speaker 2: go when it comes to the head coaching position. You

1495
01:07:23,520 --> 01:07:24,960
Speaker 2: can go with a guy who's the X and o's

1496
01:07:25,040 --> 01:07:27,440
Speaker 2: guy who has an expertise on one side of the ball,

1497
01:07:27,480 --> 01:07:28,440
Speaker 2: offense or defense.

1498
01:07:29,080 --> 01:07:31,120
Speaker 1: You can go for the guy who's the CEO type.

1499
01:07:31,160 --> 01:07:32,040
Speaker 1: That is the type that.

1500
01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:34,880
Speaker 2: I'm familiar with, having played for coach mcgron at North

1501
01:07:34,880 --> 01:07:36,680
Speaker 2: Carolina Hall of Fame coach who also got it done

1502
01:07:36,720 --> 01:07:40,120
Speaker 2: at Texas. They oversee everything, they make sure they set

1503
01:07:40,160 --> 01:07:42,960
Speaker 2: the vision, they give the coaches the tools and the

1504
01:07:43,040 --> 01:07:45,480
Speaker 2: resources to get it done, and then they hold them

1505
01:07:45,480 --> 01:07:47,800
Speaker 2: accountable that So that is a way to be able

1506
01:07:47,840 --> 01:07:48,080
Speaker 2: to do it.

1507
01:07:48,680 --> 01:07:50,040
Speaker 1: There's several ways that you can do it.

1508
01:07:50,080 --> 01:07:51,400
Speaker 2: You just got to make sure that the person that

1509
01:07:51,480 --> 01:07:54,040
Speaker 2: you hire, you give them everything that they need and

1510
01:07:54,160 --> 01:07:56,360
Speaker 2: they have to have the right stuff to be able

1511
01:07:56,400 --> 01:07:56,919
Speaker 2: to get it done.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, one last thing they make a big deal, and

1513
01:08:00,040 --> 01:08:02,400
Speaker 3: they made a big deal of Cincinnati several weeks ago

1514
01:08:02,600 --> 01:08:04,240
Speaker 3: that they got a brand in the locker room. Tell

1515
01:08:04,240 --> 01:08:06,000
Speaker 3: me the truth doesn't make that much of a difference

1516
01:08:06,000 --> 01:08:07,920
Speaker 3: that we're recruiting a kid and you bring him on

1517
01:08:08,000 --> 01:08:10,360
Speaker 3: campus and he looks at the locker room. I mean, honestly,

1518
01:08:10,480 --> 01:08:13,000
Speaker 3: to me, I don't care. To me, it doesn't even

1519
01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:15,240
Speaker 3: make a big deal. How many times you're on TV.

1520
01:08:15,440 --> 01:08:16,759
Speaker 3: Everybody's on TV anyway.

1521
01:08:17,040 --> 01:08:17,160
Speaker 2: You know.

1522
01:08:17,280 --> 01:08:19,360
Speaker 3: I'm turning the TV on the other day. I'm seeing

1523
01:08:19,439 --> 01:08:21,519
Speaker 3: Jackson State on TV, Texas State.

1524
01:08:21,720 --> 01:08:21,880
Speaker 1: You know.

1525
01:08:21,880 --> 01:08:24,160
Speaker 3: The schools I never heard of are on TV Tuesday night,

1526
01:08:24,240 --> 01:08:26,320
Speaker 3: Thursday night. So I don't think the TV makes it different.

1527
01:08:26,320 --> 01:08:28,320
Speaker 3: I want to play for a school that the coach

1528
01:08:28,439 --> 01:08:30,160
Speaker 3: is honest. I know he's going to be there when

1529
01:08:30,200 --> 01:08:32,519
Speaker 3: I'm there for my entire career. Those are the things

1530
01:08:32,560 --> 01:08:34,320
Speaker 3: I want. Maybe the schedule, I want to see what

1531
01:08:34,400 --> 01:08:36,920
Speaker 3: kind of schedule they play, But the locker room, I

1532
01:08:37,000 --> 01:08:37,400
Speaker 3: don't think.

1533
01:08:37,479 --> 01:08:41,880
Speaker 2: So it's a new thing, you know, because what you're

1534
01:08:41,880 --> 01:08:44,439
Speaker 2: trying to do when when you add those amenities, you're.

1535
01:08:44,280 --> 01:08:46,519
Speaker 1: Trying to encourage guys to stay around the facility.

1536
01:08:46,640 --> 01:08:48,400
Speaker 2: The more they stay around the facility, the more likely

1537
01:08:48,400 --> 01:08:50,080
Speaker 2: they didn't get some extra work done that's going to

1538
01:08:50,120 --> 01:08:53,479
Speaker 2: help them be better players. Also, when they're around the program,

1539
01:08:53,720 --> 01:08:56,719
Speaker 2: around the building, you're going to have opportunity to develop

1540
01:08:56,800 --> 01:09:00,480
Speaker 2: better camaraderie and better chemistry between the team and the teammates.

1541
01:09:00,800 --> 01:09:02,559
Speaker 1: So that's why they do all those upgrades.

1542
01:09:02,600 --> 01:09:05,040
Speaker 2: You're trying to make it as nice as possible for them,

1543
01:09:05,320 --> 01:09:07,280
Speaker 2: and so it has been excessive. We've seen the barber

1544
01:09:07,400 --> 01:09:09,880
Speaker 2: cheers and places, We've seen all the other things. But

1545
01:09:10,520 --> 01:09:13,720
Speaker 2: you know, people are trying to make it Disneyland at

1546
01:09:13,760 --> 01:09:14,559
Speaker 2: their own facility.

1547
01:09:14,680 --> 01:09:17,120
Speaker 1: So all the kids are happy.

1548
01:09:17,360 --> 01:09:20,320
Speaker 2: Remember these are eighteen to twenty two year olds and

1549
01:09:20,640 --> 01:09:22,960
Speaker 2: the way that they think is differently than the way

1550
01:09:23,040 --> 01:09:26,800
Speaker 2: that we view the world right now as middle age

1551
01:09:26,880 --> 01:09:28,639
Speaker 2: or older people.

1552
01:09:28,720 --> 01:09:30,080
Speaker 1: And so it's about the kids.

1553
01:09:30,080 --> 01:09:32,120
Speaker 2: You're trying to give them what they need so they

1554
01:09:32,200 --> 01:09:33,880
Speaker 2: can be happy, and if they're happy, then in turn,

1555
01:09:34,040 --> 01:09:35,599
Speaker 2: you'll get better performances from them.

1556
01:09:35,880 --> 01:09:36,240
Speaker 1: Here we go.

1557
01:09:36,320 --> 01:09:38,240
Speaker 3: He's Bucky Brooks on Andy Firm. We all have Fox

1558
01:09:38,280 --> 01:09:41,400
Speaker 3: Football sounding on Fox Buts Radio. He's injured again and

1559
01:09:41,520 --> 01:09:42,880
Speaker 3: his status is questionable.

1560
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Speaker 4: That's next.

1561
01:09:43,680 --> 01:09:46,080
Speaker 3: But first, Kevin Wyatt. We're sorry we're a little late,

1562
01:09:46,160 --> 01:09:47,200
Speaker 3: but you got all the sports.

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01:09:47,520 --> 01:09:50,280
Speaker 9: Yeah, we got some injury updates for you for today's

1564
01:09:50,280 --> 01:09:54,120
Speaker 9: slate of NFL games. In rapaport with an update earlier

1565
01:09:54,240 --> 01:09:58,599
Speaker 9: this morning saying that Rams quarterback Matthew Stafford not expected

1566
01:09:58,680 --> 01:10:01,280
Speaker 9: to play today. He's dealing with thumb injury he suffered

1567
01:10:01,360 --> 01:10:04,280
Speaker 9: last week against the Cowboys. He's listed as doubtful but

1568
01:10:05,560 --> 01:10:07,879
Speaker 9: probably not going to play today. It'll be Brett Rippian

1569
01:10:08,320 --> 01:10:11,559
Speaker 9: to get the start against the Packers. Buka Noakua has

1570
01:10:11,560 --> 01:10:14,240
Speaker 9: a knee injury, however, he is expected to play despite

1571
01:10:14,280 --> 01:10:17,439
Speaker 9: being listed as questionable. And for the Cowboys offensive tackle

1572
01:10:17,520 --> 01:10:20,200
Speaker 9: Tyron Smith, he's been dealing with a neck issue. However,

1573
01:10:20,280 --> 01:10:24,439
Speaker 9: he is expected to suit up today. As for the

1574
01:10:24,520 --> 01:10:26,519
Speaker 9: college ranks, we had a couple of late games. In

1575
01:10:26,600 --> 01:10:29,439
Speaker 9: the Pac twelve, Arizona's now Bowl eligible for the first

1576
01:10:29,479 --> 01:10:34,719
Speaker 9: time since twenty seventeen. He beat nineteen rank UCLA twenty

1577
01:10:34,760 --> 01:10:36,519
Speaker 9: seven to ten. The Bruins now just three and three.

1578
01:10:36,640 --> 01:10:40,720
Speaker 9: In Pac twelve action number sixteen Oregon State twenty six

1579
01:10:40,880 --> 01:10:43,720
Speaker 9: nineteen winners over Colorado. The Buffs now one in five

1580
01:10:44,200 --> 01:10:48,160
Speaker 9: in the Pac twelve after their strong start. Other college

1581
01:10:48,200 --> 01:10:51,360
Speaker 9: football action from earlier. On Saturday, Top break Ohio State

1582
01:10:51,400 --> 01:10:53,800
Speaker 9: comes from behind, they trailed at halftime, but winning against

1583
01:10:53,840 --> 01:10:57,160
Speaker 9: Rutgers thirty five to sixteen. Number two Georgia thirty twenty

1584
01:10:57,200 --> 01:11:01,000
Speaker 9: one winners against number twelve Missouri ranked Michigan. With all

1585
01:11:01,000 --> 01:11:05,200
Speaker 9: the distractions and controversy with their Stein stealing standal, they

1586
01:11:05,600 --> 01:11:09,040
Speaker 9: had no problem with Purdue on Saturday. They destroy them

1587
01:11:09,080 --> 01:11:12,040
Speaker 9: forty one to thirteen. Number four Florida State. They were

1588
01:11:12,120 --> 01:11:14,040
Speaker 9: down seven nothing late in the first half, foot score

1589
01:11:14,120 --> 01:11:17,880
Speaker 9: twenty four unanswered to beat Pittsburgh twenty four to seven.

1590
01:11:18,640 --> 01:11:21,599
Speaker 9: It was a shootout at the Collis CM. Number five

1591
01:11:21,920 --> 01:11:26,200
Speaker 9: Washington over number twenty USC fifty two to forty two.

1592
01:11:26,400 --> 01:11:30,240
Speaker 9: Dylan Johnson two undred fifty six rushing yards, four touchdowns.

1593
01:11:30,640 --> 01:11:33,479
Speaker 9: Number six Oregon gets six total touchdowns from Bo Nicks

1594
01:11:33,520 --> 01:11:36,679
Speaker 9: as they roll over Cal sixty three nineteen. Number seven

1595
01:11:36,760 --> 01:11:39,360
Speaker 9: Texas blows a twenty point lead, but they still are

1596
01:11:39,360 --> 01:11:41,320
Speaker 9: able to win against number twenty three Kansas State in

1597
01:11:41,360 --> 01:11:44,479
Speaker 9: overtime thirty three to thirty. Number eight Alabama. They beat

1598
01:11:44,520 --> 01:11:47,519
Speaker 9: number fourteen LSU forty two to twenty eight bedlam in

1599
01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:51,759
Speaker 9: the state of Oklahoma. Number twenty two Oklahoma State taking

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01:11:51,800 --> 01:11:54,400
Speaker 9: down their in state rival number nine Oklahoma twenty seven

1601
01:11:54,400 --> 01:11:58,120
Speaker 9: to twenty four. The Sooners committing three turnovers as they

1602
01:11:58,160 --> 01:12:01,559
Speaker 9: play their last big twelve up with Oklahoma State before

1603
01:12:01,600 --> 01:12:04,040
Speaker 9: they had to the sec Number ten O will Miss

1604
01:12:04,439 --> 01:12:06,519
Speaker 9: get to touchdown with less than two minutes ago to

1605
01:12:06,600 --> 01:12:08,800
Speaker 9: take down Texas A and M thirty eight thirty five,

1606
01:12:08,880 --> 01:12:11,519
Speaker 9: and they're able to win it by blocking a field

1607
01:12:11,560 --> 01:12:15,479
Speaker 9: goal on the last play. Number fifteen Nordame upset on

1608
01:12:15,600 --> 01:12:17,680
Speaker 9: the road by Clemson thirty one to twenty three. The

1609
01:12:17,760 --> 01:12:23,800
Speaker 9: Irish offense struggling just thirteen first downs in fourteen offensive possessions,

1610
01:12:23,920 --> 01:12:26,000
Speaker 9: number twenty four to two. Lane thirteen ten winners of

1611
01:12:26,040 --> 01:12:29,280
Speaker 9: East Carolina Army upsets number twenty five Air Force twenty

1612
01:12:29,320 --> 01:12:29,920
Speaker 9: three to three.

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01:12:30,040 --> 01:12:31,920
Speaker 4: Back to you, guys, thank you so much. Heat about

1614
01:12:31,920 --> 01:12:32,400
Speaker 4: it now? All right?

1615
01:12:32,479 --> 01:12:35,040
Speaker 3: They're looking at number two, that's right around the corner.

1616
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Speaker 3: He's Bucky Brooks on Andy Firman. We are Fox Footballs

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Speaker 3: got the Rams at the Packers bucking Rams. As Kevin mentioned,

1623
01:12:55,960 --> 01:12:58,080
Speaker 3: Matthew staff is not going to plays. Got the thumb injury.

1624
01:12:58,280 --> 01:12:59,720
Speaker 3: So what are the Rams need to do as a

1625
01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:03,080
Speaker 3: defensive coordinator in training, which I am, the Rams need

1626
01:13:03,120 --> 01:13:06,040
Speaker 3: to sustain the drives, keep the clock running, run the football.

1627
01:13:06,160 --> 01:13:08,960
Speaker 3: But here's my question, what happened to Cooper Cup?

1628
01:13:09,240 --> 01:13:11,040
Speaker 4: Where is he? Where's the passing game?

1629
01:13:11,080 --> 01:13:15,000
Speaker 3: With la twenty one yards and ten targets last week

1630
01:13:15,040 --> 01:13:15,719
Speaker 3: against Dallas?

1631
01:13:16,040 --> 01:13:17,479
Speaker 4: What happened to Cooper Cup?

1632
01:13:19,439 --> 01:13:21,519
Speaker 2: Look, I don't know if anything is necessarily happening. You remember,

1633
01:13:21,520 --> 01:13:23,439
Speaker 2: he's coming back from injury. They also have pookin the

1634
01:13:23,520 --> 01:13:27,040
Speaker 2: tool who they are kind of using interchangeably with Cooper Cup.

1635
01:13:27,160 --> 01:13:31,080
Speaker 2: Both guys are very similar in terms of size, stature games.

1636
01:13:31,520 --> 01:13:36,280
Speaker 2: And if the opponent, the Dallas Cowboys, taken away Cooper Cup,

1637
01:13:36,320 --> 01:13:37,560
Speaker 2: then what you do is you try and go to

1638
01:13:37,640 --> 01:13:38,200
Speaker 2: the other guy.

1639
01:13:39,280 --> 01:13:40,720
Speaker 1: The thing that complicates a little bit.

1640
01:13:41,160 --> 01:13:43,560
Speaker 2: Now Matthew Stafford is out, So now you're going to

1641
01:13:43,600 --> 01:13:45,640
Speaker 2: get a little generic game plan because you're trying to

1642
01:13:45,640 --> 01:13:49,000
Speaker 2: get Brett Rippin up and going makes it makes it

1643
01:13:49,040 --> 01:13:50,680
Speaker 2: a little harder. You've had a week of practice to

1644
01:13:50,760 --> 01:13:53,160
Speaker 2: kind of figure out what Ripping can do. But what

1645
01:13:53,360 --> 01:13:56,479
Speaker 2: we saw previously you may not see again because Matthew

1646
01:13:56,520 --> 01:13:59,160
Speaker 2: Stafford runs the offense obviously a lot differently than Ripping

1647
01:13:59,200 --> 01:14:00,320
Speaker 2: will right.

1648
01:14:00,600 --> 01:14:02,080
Speaker 3: And I tell you what, that's going to be a problem.

1649
01:14:02,160 --> 01:14:05,120
Speaker 3: But I still think the Packers at the home game,

1650
01:14:05,400 --> 01:14:07,720
Speaker 3: and I think the Packers with the I'm not going

1651
01:14:07,760 --> 01:14:10,280
Speaker 3: to say experience. I just think the Packers at home

1652
01:14:10,640 --> 01:14:14,200
Speaker 3: have a certain edge because of the availability or lack thereof,

1653
01:14:14,280 --> 01:14:15,160
Speaker 3: of Matthew Stafford.

1654
01:14:15,320 --> 01:14:17,560
Speaker 4: And look at this Packer situation. Look I got this

1655
01:14:17,640 --> 01:14:18,040
Speaker 4: stat here.

1656
01:14:18,080 --> 01:14:22,200
Speaker 3: They've been outscored seventy three to nine in the first

1657
01:14:22,360 --> 01:14:25,960
Speaker 3: half of their last five games. And look, I know

1658
01:14:26,280 --> 01:14:29,400
Speaker 3: that it's very easy for people to say, keys to

1659
01:14:29,479 --> 01:14:31,439
Speaker 3: the game, you got to get up to a fast start.

1660
01:14:31,720 --> 01:14:33,920
Speaker 3: How come teams don't? And how do you get off

1661
01:14:33,920 --> 01:14:34,719
Speaker 3: to a fair start?

1662
01:14:36,439 --> 01:14:38,040
Speaker 2: A lot of times the best way to get off

1663
01:14:38,040 --> 01:14:39,640
Speaker 2: to a fast start is to do the things that

1664
01:14:39,760 --> 01:14:41,519
Speaker 2: your guys are familiar with and rep them over and

1665
01:14:41,600 --> 01:14:44,160
Speaker 2: over again. The beginning of the game is when players

1666
01:14:44,200 --> 01:14:47,960
Speaker 2: are at their most nervous. So when you're nervous, sometimes

1667
01:14:48,000 --> 01:14:50,000
Speaker 2: when you do new stuff, you have a tendency to

1668
01:14:50,080 --> 01:14:51,880
Speaker 2: mess that up. So you have to find a way

1669
01:14:51,960 --> 01:14:56,040
Speaker 2: to put them in a very comfortable and familiar environment

1670
01:14:56,360 --> 01:14:57,880
Speaker 2: doing the things they didn't know. You're going to add

1671
01:14:57,920 --> 01:15:00,639
Speaker 2: a little sauce to a change of formation, do some stuff,

1672
01:15:01,040 --> 01:15:03,840
Speaker 2: but it comes down to rehearsal. You want to do

1673
01:15:04,040 --> 01:15:06,080
Speaker 2: what they know so they can play fast. The most

1674
01:15:06,080 --> 01:15:08,840
Speaker 2: important thing for your team is you want to play fast.

1675
01:15:08,880 --> 01:15:11,000
Speaker 2: You want to play loose, and you want them to go.

1676
01:15:11,120 --> 01:15:13,440
Speaker 2: You want to play them We always.

1677
01:15:13,160 --> 01:15:13,600
Speaker 1: Call it that. Man.

1678
01:15:13,640 --> 01:15:14,920
Speaker 2: You want to be able to play out their shoes.

1679
01:15:15,000 --> 01:15:16,880
Speaker 2: They want to be able to go downhill and play

1680
01:15:16,960 --> 01:15:19,600
Speaker 2: without thinking. And you have to understand what kind of

1681
01:15:19,640 --> 01:15:22,599
Speaker 2: team that you have, what they can handle, and what's

1682
01:15:22,680 --> 01:15:24,840
Speaker 2: too much. But just give them the things that they

1683
01:15:24,840 --> 01:15:26,439
Speaker 2: can handle so they can play fast and just go

1684
01:15:26,560 --> 01:15:26,880
Speaker 2: after it.

1685
01:15:27,280 --> 01:15:27,680
Speaker 1: There we go.

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Speaker 3: He's Bucky Brooks, I'm any Firman. This is Fox Football

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Speaker 3: something and Fox Butts RDIO. It's the game that keeps

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Speaker 3: on giving giving you a heartburn. That's what it gives you.

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Speaker 3: It's about a barrel betting, and it's freaking next by

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Speaker 3: a barrel betting right around the bend.

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Speaker 4: It's about eleven minutes now before the top of the hour.

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01:15:41,600 --> 01:15:43,000
Speaker 4: He is Bucky Brooks.

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Speaker 3: I'm Andy Ferman And by the way, we're live from

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Speaker 4: I see, we've got a game to play. Let's play.

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01:16:12,040 --> 01:16:13,280
Speaker 8: It's bottom bottom.

1704
01:16:15,880 --> 01:16:16,120
Speaker 1: To sleep.

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01:16:16,120 --> 01:16:16,840
Speaker 4: People, get my money.

1706
01:16:16,880 --> 01:16:18,120
Speaker 9: I'll put your brain to sleep.

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01:16:18,160 --> 01:16:18,439
Speaker 1: Betting.

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01:16:18,600 --> 01:16:20,519
Speaker 11: Yeah, the man who owns it all they want and

1709
01:16:20,600 --> 01:16:23,479
Speaker 11: only Hey, guys, how are we doing?

1710
01:16:23,840 --> 01:16:24,280
Speaker 4: What's up?

1711
01:16:24,520 --> 01:16:28,120
Speaker 1: I'm who won?

1712
01:16:28,240 --> 01:16:28,599
Speaker 8: Who won?

1713
01:16:28,760 --> 01:16:31,040
Speaker 3: Let you know, this is the only competition I could

1714
01:16:31,080 --> 01:16:33,479
Speaker 3: compete with. Bucket Brooks. He's a better athlete than me.

1715
01:16:33,760 --> 01:16:36,799
Speaker 3: He's a better person than me. He's faster, he's bigger,

1716
01:16:36,880 --> 01:16:39,400
Speaker 3: he's stronger. The only thing I could go one on

1717
01:16:39,560 --> 01:16:42,519
Speaker 3: one is bottom barrel betting. So how did I do well?

1718
01:16:44,160 --> 01:16:47,920
Speaker 11: It's such a hyped intro too, but I'm sorry you lost.

1719
01:16:48,680 --> 01:16:52,280
Speaker 3: He's got everything that I wanted in life, looks, leticism,

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01:16:52,400 --> 01:16:53,320
Speaker 3: every everything.

1721
01:16:53,560 --> 01:16:57,440
Speaker 4: Fi wi fi, He's.

1722
01:16:56,720 --> 01:16:59,439
Speaker 11: Got it all man. Yeah, hey man, I mean I

1723
01:16:59,479 --> 01:17:01,680
Speaker 11: feel like by he beats me too, So you're you're

1724
01:17:01,720 --> 01:17:02,120
Speaker 11: good on that?

1725
01:17:02,760 --> 01:17:03,040
Speaker 1: Fine.

1726
01:17:03,080 --> 01:17:04,559
Speaker 11: I feel like Bucky beats most people.

1727
01:17:06,560 --> 01:17:09,559
Speaker 1: That's funny, but it's funny all right.

1728
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Speaker 11: So I think this is the first timer for the show.

1729
01:17:12,040 --> 01:17:16,040
Speaker 11: The Cyclo Cross European Women's Championship, so it's a biking

1730
01:17:16,160 --> 01:17:19,879
Speaker 11: championship is set to take off at five am Pacific

1731
01:17:19,960 --> 01:17:23,920
Speaker 11: Standard time. So when a race matchup between Saune Kant

1732
01:17:24,760 --> 01:17:30,080
Speaker 11: and Sarah Cassola, So basically with whichever ryder finishes the fastest.

1733
01:17:30,680 --> 01:17:34,160
Speaker 11: So Kant is minus one fifty while Casola is minus

1734
01:17:34,439 --> 01:17:36,800
Speaker 11: one fifteen, so it's the same line for both of

1735
01:17:36,880 --> 01:17:40,280
Speaker 11: them minus one fifteen. Who you guys got Let the

1736
01:17:40,400 --> 01:17:43,720
Speaker 11: champ go first? Give me give me the two names

1737
01:17:44,880 --> 01:17:47,160
Speaker 11: Kant and Sara Casola.

1738
01:17:48,080 --> 01:17:50,559
Speaker 1: Ooh, I think I'm gonna go with Kant. I'm gonna

1739
01:17:50,560 --> 01:17:51,400
Speaker 1: go at count on this one.

1740
01:17:51,840 --> 01:17:54,120
Speaker 3: I'm going with Casola. I don't know why. I just

1741
01:17:54,640 --> 01:17:56,320
Speaker 3: I like Sara, Sarah Cassola.

1742
01:17:56,400 --> 01:17:58,000
Speaker 4: I like the name. What can I tell you?

1743
01:17:58,360 --> 01:17:58,519
Speaker 10: You know?

1744
01:17:59,000 --> 01:18:00,720
Speaker 3: I see people go to race tracks. They bet on

1745
01:18:00,760 --> 01:18:03,040
Speaker 3: the colors of the horses. You know they's silks. So

1746
01:18:03,080 --> 01:18:03,960
Speaker 3: I'm going to go in the name.

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01:18:04,080 --> 01:18:06,479
Speaker 11: It rolls off the tongue. Here you go, Yeah, it rolls,

1748
01:18:06,920 --> 01:18:07,400
Speaker 11: it rolls.

1749
01:18:08,000 --> 01:18:09,800
Speaker 8: Yeah, you know.

1750
01:18:10,800 --> 01:18:14,120
Speaker 11: On to the next one in the Ligabal And this

1751
01:18:14,320 --> 01:18:17,600
Speaker 11: is the handball league in span I'm guessing sobal is

1752
01:18:17,720 --> 01:18:23,679
Speaker 11: handball in Spanish. In Spanish, as Puerto Sagunto is taking

1753
01:18:23,760 --> 01:18:29,080
Speaker 11: on BM synthin Alsa, Puerto Sagunto is plus one hundred

1754
01:18:29,400 --> 01:18:32,880
Speaker 11: while BM Sinfin is plus one fifteen. Then not just

1755
01:18:32,920 --> 01:18:35,479
Speaker 11: set to take off November seventh at eleven am.

1756
01:18:35,640 --> 01:18:37,280
Speaker 4: So I can't wait. I'm gonna get tickets too.

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01:18:37,360 --> 01:18:38,200
Speaker 11: Really, I think you have to.

1758
01:18:38,800 --> 01:18:40,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, you want me to go first, I'll take it.

1759
01:18:42,080 --> 01:18:44,640
Speaker 3: Saguto Saguto, I want him.

1760
01:18:45,760 --> 01:18:46,120
Speaker 1: That's good.

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01:18:46,320 --> 01:18:48,000
Speaker 4: You know you never told me if it's a lefty

1762
01:18:48,080 --> 01:18:49,920
Speaker 4: or aliety. I think it makes a difference in handball.

1763
01:18:50,160 --> 01:18:50,920
Speaker 4: It does, doesn't it?

1764
01:18:51,560 --> 01:18:53,040
Speaker 11: I don't know. I don't know if that does make

1765
01:18:53,040 --> 01:18:54,080
Speaker 11: a difference to find that out.

1766
01:18:54,400 --> 01:18:56,320
Speaker 1: Does that make a difference, I don't know. Does it

1767
01:18:56,400 --> 01:18:57,200
Speaker 1: make a difference really?

1768
01:18:58,320 --> 01:18:59,240
Speaker 4: Maybe the way you serve.

1769
01:18:59,320 --> 01:19:01,640
Speaker 3: I mean I think, you know, playing against the left hand,

1770
01:19:01,680 --> 01:19:04,360
Speaker 3: who's serving lefty could have could affect you like your

1771
01:19:04,439 --> 01:19:06,559
Speaker 3: quarterback of lefty quarterback could affect the receiver.

1772
01:19:06,640 --> 01:19:08,400
Speaker 11: I think you need to make these lines. I think

1773
01:19:08,439 --> 01:19:09,680
Speaker 11: you need to talk to someone about this.

1774
01:19:10,040 --> 01:19:10,240
Speaker 1: Yeah.

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01:19:10,360 --> 01:19:11,600
Speaker 11: Right, there's a lot of money in that we.

1776
01:19:11,600 --> 01:19:14,680
Speaker 4: Can get you replaced them. You know what, you're on

1777
01:19:14,760 --> 01:19:15,360
Speaker 4: the hot seat.

1778
01:19:18,960 --> 01:19:20,439
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go the opposite way. I'm gonna go to

1779
01:19:20,479 --> 01:19:22,519
Speaker 1: opposite way. Whatever he does, I go opposite.

1780
01:19:22,520 --> 01:19:24,720
Speaker 11: I'm gonna go out sin finn BM sin finn plus

1781
01:19:24,800 --> 01:19:27,519
Speaker 11: one fifteen. That's what you hit, all right. In the

1782
01:19:28,040 --> 01:19:34,439
Speaker 11: Turkish feller Liga, which is a volleyball league, uh Acusild

1783
01:19:34,960 --> 01:19:38,559
Speaker 11: is taking on Arcus Spore at five am Pacific Standard

1784
01:19:38,600 --> 01:19:43,559
Speaker 11: time later today. Accous build is five point fifty minus

1785
01:19:43,640 --> 01:19:46,800
Speaker 11: five point fifty or plus sorry plus five fifty, while

1786
01:19:47,000 --> 01:19:48,960
Speaker 11: Arcus is minus one thousand.

1787
01:19:50,320 --> 01:19:54,679
Speaker 1: Okay, oh Brooks minus minus one thousand. Those are tremendous odds.

1788
01:19:55,200 --> 01:19:57,240
Speaker 1: You're be able to get it done. Give me a

1789
01:19:57,280 --> 01:19:59,360
Speaker 1: plus five hundred. I'm sorry, and you're gonna have you

1790
01:19:59,400 --> 01:20:00,559
Speaker 1: can take down to one.

1791
01:20:00,600 --> 01:20:02,639
Speaker 4: I can't take this August August?

1792
01:20:02,760 --> 01:20:03,000
Speaker 1: Why not?

1793
01:20:03,160 --> 01:20:06,000
Speaker 3: I mean I'm a loser anyway in this game occurs,

1794
01:20:06,080 --> 01:20:08,839
Speaker 3: right loses, you know, misery loves company.

1795
01:20:09,280 --> 01:20:11,160
Speaker 11: We'll do this last one. Andy, be careful too. This

1796
01:20:11,240 --> 01:20:13,200
Speaker 11: is an esports one, but it's a huge one. The

1797
01:20:13,320 --> 01:20:16,360
Speaker 11: League of Legends World Championship is set to take off

1798
01:20:16,400 --> 01:20:19,600
Speaker 11: at twelve am Pacific Standard time on the eleventh. We

1799
01:20:19,800 --> 01:20:22,400
Speaker 11: BO is taking on Bill Billy Gaming. We Bo is

1800
01:20:22,439 --> 01:20:25,360
Speaker 11: minus one fifty. Well, Bill Billy Gaming is plus one fifteen.

1801
01:20:25,720 --> 01:20:26,720
Speaker 1: What do you guys? Hat?

1802
01:20:26,840 --> 01:20:28,760
Speaker 11: This is huge, by the way, this is huge, tons

1803
01:20:28,760 --> 01:20:30,120
Speaker 11: of money in this tons of viewers.

1804
01:20:30,840 --> 01:20:34,160
Speaker 12: Okay, we Bill Bill Billy, Bill Billy. Here we go,

1805
01:20:34,360 --> 01:20:38,240
Speaker 12: All right, here we go. Swallow till next. Greetings and

1806
01:20:38,360 --> 01:20:42,800
Speaker 12: welcome in. We are in the backstretch. Sorry, I watched

1807
01:20:42,840 --> 01:20:45,280
Speaker 12: a lot of Breeders Cup over the weekend. Welcome in.

1808
01:20:45,400 --> 01:20:49,679
Speaker 12: It's Fox Football Sunday. Mike Carmon alongside Bucky brooks Andy Furman.

1809
01:20:50,080 --> 01:20:52,760
Speaker 12: You've heard him get in your morning started here on

1810
01:20:53,160 --> 01:20:56,760
Speaker 12: Fox Football Sunday. I tag in and now we've got

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1816
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Speaker 12: You guys chatting it up a little bit earlier with

1817
01:21:16,840 --> 01:21:18,200
Speaker 12: Buffalo and Cincinnati.

1818
01:21:18,280 --> 01:21:20,000
Speaker 5: We'll get to that game in earnest.

1819
01:21:20,080 --> 01:21:22,680
Speaker 9: The Buffalo side of things are interesting because there's one

1820
01:21:22,880 --> 01:21:25,920
Speaker 9: stat for me that is one of the more interesting

1821
01:21:26,040 --> 01:21:28,800
Speaker 9: things given the amount of derision and hate he gets

1822
01:21:28,880 --> 01:21:32,720
Speaker 9: in certain communities of the football world. But gentlemen, we're

1823
01:21:32,760 --> 01:21:36,080
Speaker 9: at it again, and Andy, I'll start with you. They

1824
01:21:36,560 --> 01:21:40,919
Speaker 9: we got the fun and exciting college football world, Caleb Williams,

1825
01:21:41,000 --> 01:21:44,320
Speaker 9: the shot scene around the world. When it's all said

1826
01:21:44,320 --> 01:21:46,519
Speaker 9: and done, you can have all the money in the world,

1827
01:21:46,960 --> 01:21:49,439
Speaker 9: you can have everybody telling you how great you are.

1828
01:21:49,800 --> 01:21:51,559
Speaker 5: If things go wrong, you still want your mom.

1829
01:21:52,479 --> 01:21:55,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I want to just say one thing before

1830
01:21:56,200 --> 01:21:59,320
Speaker 4: we get growing here. The intro to this show, if.

1831
01:21:59,280 --> 01:22:02,439
Speaker 3: Someone embarrass Big got two shlubs like you and me

1832
01:22:02,840 --> 01:22:05,680
Speaker 3: and Bucky Brooks with the resume, five year pro you

1833
01:22:05,800 --> 01:22:09,160
Speaker 3: got Bucky Brooks with two other guys. That's basically because

1834
01:22:09,160 --> 01:22:11,479
Speaker 3: the two guys they've found on the street, Mike Harmon

1835
01:22:11,520 --> 01:22:14,240
Speaker 3: and Andy Fourman. Think about that intro. Right, we have

1836
01:22:14,400 --> 01:22:18,680
Speaker 3: no resume, we have nothing. Okay, So I'm an offensive

1837
01:22:18,800 --> 01:22:20,200
Speaker 3: coordinator in training.

1838
01:22:20,479 --> 01:22:22,800
Speaker 4: That's what I am here right now, That's what I'm doing.

1839
01:22:22,880 --> 01:22:23,280
Speaker 3: I like that.

1840
01:22:23,439 --> 01:22:25,000
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, and you're swollen dome.

1841
01:22:25,080 --> 01:22:28,719
Speaker 9: As we've seen, you could rise to very high levels

1842
01:22:28,880 --> 01:22:31,840
Speaker 9: in the coaching business just by who you know and

1843
01:22:31,960 --> 01:22:33,240
Speaker 9: being nice around the building.

1844
01:22:33,600 --> 01:22:35,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I'll try very much. I am, I am,

1845
01:22:35,600 --> 01:22:35,800
Speaker 4: I am.

1846
01:22:35,960 --> 01:22:36,320
Speaker 1: There you go.

1847
01:22:36,600 --> 01:22:38,840
Speaker 5: You got to keep hustling watching those all twenty two.

1848
01:22:39,439 --> 01:22:42,120
Speaker 4: To mister Williams. Caleb Williams, I mean, he loves his mom.

1849
01:22:42,400 --> 01:22:42,560
Speaker 1: You know.

1850
01:22:42,720 --> 01:22:45,639
Speaker 3: Look, I get it. You know you won the Heisman

1851
01:22:45,720 --> 01:22:47,160
Speaker 3: last year. You're not even going to go to a

1852
01:22:47,400 --> 01:22:50,479
Speaker 3: big Bowl game this year. You're nothing and not entirely

1853
01:22:50,560 --> 01:22:53,240
Speaker 3: your fault. Your team doesn't play defense. You're giving forty

1854
01:22:53,280 --> 01:22:55,240
Speaker 3: fifty spots up every game, so you need to do

1855
01:22:55,360 --> 01:22:57,840
Speaker 3: defensive cooridator. But do you have to go crying to

1856
01:22:57,920 --> 01:22:59,840
Speaker 3: your mommy after the game? I mean, I know it's

1857
01:22:59,840 --> 01:23:02,600
Speaker 3: a sympathy thing and the TV's round with it, you

1858
01:23:02,680 --> 01:23:04,599
Speaker 3: know what. To be honest with you, I was ready

1859
01:23:04,640 --> 01:23:07,200
Speaker 3: to put my finger down my throat and gag. I mean, really,

1860
01:23:07,520 --> 01:23:10,240
Speaker 3: you're a football player, be a man, suck it up.

1861
01:23:10,560 --> 01:23:15,200
Speaker 2: Come on, Yeah, I would say it's not a great

1862
01:23:15,320 --> 01:23:19,280
Speaker 2: look from the next level standpoint, right, So when we

1863
01:23:19,360 --> 01:23:22,280
Speaker 2: think about the quarterback position, we not only think about

1864
01:23:22,280 --> 01:23:24,479
Speaker 2: it being presidential, but we think about it being one

1865
01:23:24,640 --> 01:23:28,160
Speaker 2: of extreme maturity. And even though we all love to

1866
01:23:28,200 --> 01:23:30,680
Speaker 2: sit up on our mom's lap and those things, like

1867
01:23:31,160 --> 01:23:33,960
Speaker 2: just the look of it. If I am thinking about,

1868
01:23:34,040 --> 01:23:36,439
Speaker 2: like my one hundred million dollar quarterback, if he has

1869
01:23:36,479 --> 01:23:38,439
Speaker 2: a tough moment, is that the look that I want?

1870
01:23:39,280 --> 01:23:41,720
Speaker 2: And so I think this year what he has called

1871
01:23:41,760 --> 01:23:44,040
Speaker 2: in the question a lot of things about his quote

1872
01:23:44,080 --> 01:23:47,200
Speaker 2: unquote football character. Not that he's great dude, right, he

1873
01:23:47,280 --> 01:23:49,880
Speaker 2: does all those things, but football character is like that

1874
01:23:50,040 --> 01:23:53,640
Speaker 2: emotional maturity between the lines, and when you're asked to

1875
01:23:53,680 --> 01:23:56,880
Speaker 2: do things as a franchise quarterback, are we confident that

1876
01:23:57,000 --> 01:23:58,519
Speaker 2: he is going to be able to handle all the

1877
01:23:58,600 --> 01:24:02,000
Speaker 2: responsibilities that go with being a franchise quarterback. I think

1878
01:24:02,080 --> 01:24:05,479
Speaker 2: if anything, that picture that everyone sees. If I'm a

1879
01:24:05,560 --> 01:24:09,639
Speaker 2: general manager, I'm probably more concerned about his emotional maturity

1880
01:24:09,960 --> 01:24:12,880
Speaker 2: to handle tough moments than I am about anything else,

1881
01:24:12,920 --> 01:24:15,519
Speaker 2: because think about how tough is man for Bryce Young already,

1882
01:24:15,920 --> 01:24:16,479
Speaker 2: how tough it.

1883
01:24:16,640 --> 01:24:17,559
Speaker 1: Was for CJ.

1884
01:24:17,680 --> 01:24:21,639
Speaker 2: Stroud doing the pre draft process. Is Caleb Williams ready

1885
01:24:21,720 --> 01:24:24,080
Speaker 2: to deal with that? He has opened himself up to

1886
01:24:24,120 --> 01:24:26,240
Speaker 2: a lot of criticism in meeting rooms when it comes

1887
01:24:26,240 --> 01:24:27,360
Speaker 2: to the evaluation.

1888
01:24:27,080 --> 01:24:31,320
Speaker 9: Because rightfully so, and rightfully so, yes, yeah, Jack curiosity right,

1889
01:24:31,360 --> 01:24:33,880
Speaker 9: because I saw a lot of others standing for him

1890
01:24:35,040 --> 01:24:37,519
Speaker 9: in this process saying, well, that's how much he wants

1891
01:24:37,600 --> 01:24:42,240
Speaker 9: to win. So trying to you know, the hey, the

1892
01:24:42,320 --> 01:24:46,479
Speaker 9: wonderful world, the cesspool that is social media. But and

1893
01:24:46,640 --> 01:24:49,760
Speaker 9: I'm not going to categorically dismiss it one one side

1894
01:24:49,800 --> 01:24:52,479
Speaker 9: or the other, but it's certainly, you know, up for

1895
01:24:52,600 --> 01:24:57,040
Speaker 9: discussion because look, at this point, he was unassailable in

1896
01:24:57,200 --> 01:25:01,800
Speaker 9: terms of his quarterbacking too, right through the last year

1897
01:25:01,960 --> 01:25:05,639
Speaker 9: certainly and then even into this year, because nobody's ever pinned, Hey,

1898
01:25:05,680 --> 01:25:07,880
Speaker 9: there was a turnover, there was a bad play. It's

1899
01:25:07,880 --> 01:25:11,200
Speaker 9: all just been glossed over. That defensive coordinator stinks it's

1900
01:25:11,240 --> 01:25:14,400
Speaker 9: all his fault. Now, yesterday, they actually did run the

1901
01:25:14,479 --> 01:25:17,040
Speaker 9: ball with some regularity, because you know, that's one of

1902
01:25:17,080 --> 01:25:19,000
Speaker 9: those things if you got a really bad defense, Bucky,

1903
01:25:19,040 --> 01:25:22,080
Speaker 9: what's rule number one? Keep them off the damn field?

1904
01:25:22,520 --> 01:25:22,680
Speaker 3: Right?

1905
01:25:23,120 --> 01:25:26,120
Speaker 9: True, they actually ran the ball twenty seven times for

1906
01:25:26,200 --> 01:25:28,120
Speaker 9: two oh three. But it didn't matter.

1907
01:25:29,320 --> 01:25:29,840
Speaker 4: I will tell you.

1908
01:25:31,040 --> 01:25:33,000
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, go ahead, no, I'll say it didn't matter.

1909
01:25:33,040 --> 01:25:34,519
Speaker 1: The running game didn't matter for them at all.

1910
01:25:35,240 --> 01:25:38,000
Speaker 3: Look, two things really met got into my craw number

1911
01:25:38,040 --> 01:25:40,920
Speaker 3: one him crying, which is a disgusting picture, and Dabo

1912
01:25:41,040 --> 01:25:43,840
Speaker 3: Sweeney getting involved, you know, saying after the game that

1913
01:25:43,920 --> 01:25:47,160
Speaker 3: this phone called this kid Tyler from spotan Brook, South Carolina,

1914
01:25:47,479 --> 01:25:49,920
Speaker 3: was the motivational key for them to beat Notre Dame.

1915
01:25:50,080 --> 01:25:50,800
Speaker 4: Are you kidding me?

1916
01:25:51,120 --> 01:25:51,280
Speaker 9: Hey?

1917
01:25:51,360 --> 01:25:52,360
Speaker 4: You freaking kidding me?

1918
01:25:52,600 --> 01:25:53,720
Speaker 5: Was he a plant? Now?

1919
01:25:53,840 --> 01:25:57,000
Speaker 9: Look, Dabo Sweeney's a guy that Andy, Bucky. We've been

1920
01:25:57,040 --> 01:26:01,000
Speaker 9: doing this show a minute together and very combinations here

1921
01:26:01,080 --> 01:26:04,920
Speaker 9: on this network that I've had enough of that guy.

1922
01:26:05,560 --> 01:26:08,160
Speaker 9: I'll just say it flat out on the national platform.

1923
01:26:08,320 --> 01:26:10,400
Speaker 9: Because wasn't he supposed to go away as soon as

1924
01:26:10,439 --> 01:26:12,040
Speaker 9: all nil and everything started?

1925
01:26:12,080 --> 01:26:14,840
Speaker 5: Anyway? Oh wait, he was still cashing his checks. And

1926
01:26:14,960 --> 01:26:18,360
Speaker 5: then look whatever's going to motivate you. I don't know,

1927
01:26:18,600 --> 01:26:20,960
Speaker 5: col but I mean people have been making up stuff.

1928
01:26:21,000 --> 01:26:25,519
Speaker 9: Michael Jordan made a boogeyman for his entire life, right,

1929
01:26:25,600 --> 01:26:28,519
Speaker 9: I mean in the pros it was always one smart

1930
01:26:28,600 --> 01:26:30,000
Speaker 9: ass reporter that was enough.

1931
01:26:30,240 --> 01:26:32,600
Speaker 4: He motivated show on Tuesday night. I'm gonna try to

1932
01:26:32,640 --> 01:26:33,640
Speaker 4: call his show this are you?

1933
01:26:34,120 --> 01:26:34,360
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1934
01:26:34,520 --> 01:26:37,479
Speaker 4: That'd be great. I'm gonna be Billy from Brooklyn.

1935
01:26:37,640 --> 01:26:38,000
Speaker 5: How's that?

1936
01:26:38,439 --> 01:26:42,000
Speaker 4: And look, Dabot, you're a phony. You're a phony. Get

1937
01:26:42,080 --> 01:26:43,080
Speaker 4: it to the portal.

1938
01:26:43,240 --> 01:26:46,200
Speaker 3: I stopped getting these phone calls and using his motivation

1939
01:26:46,560 --> 01:26:47,479
Speaker 3: for your freaking team.

1940
01:26:48,200 --> 01:26:48,479
Speaker 1: Geez.

1941
01:26:48,560 --> 01:26:50,280
Speaker 4: So if you hit Billy from Brooklyn, it'll be me.

1942
01:26:50,479 --> 01:26:52,040
Speaker 5: Oh, I like that. I see.

1943
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Speaker 9: But now that's appointment listening and he gets what he wants,

1944
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Speaker 9: more people, more people on board. Bucky Billy from Brooklyn, though,

1945
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Speaker 9: what do you think of that PERSONA?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Billy from Brooklyn. How many Clemson fans are really

1947
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Speaker 1: from Brooklyn? But I did I understand it?

1948
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Speaker 5: You know, tell him I went to Clemson.

1949
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Speaker 4: I tell him I went to What does he do.

1950
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Speaker 12: It?

1951
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Speaker 1: I think it's funny, But.

1952
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Speaker 3: You know why anybody could get it to Clemson if

1953
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Speaker 3: you'll go walk and breathe and get at the Clemson.

1954
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Speaker 5: Shay, here's your first production moment of the day.

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Speaker 9: Go find me out the uh uh, find out for

1956
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Speaker 9: us the acceptance rate at Clemson because we're actually starting

1957
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Speaker 9: to play this game a little bit with my daughter

1958
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Speaker 9: and her fun and exciting academic and soccer pursuits of

1959
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Speaker 9: what those numbers all look like. Uh, so Shay's gonna

1960
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Speaker 9: research that for us. Here for a minute, Mike Garment

1961
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Speaker 9: alongside Andy Furman, Bucky Brooks with you here Fox Football Sunday.

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Speaker 9: One of the interesting developments, and I bring up the

1963
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Speaker 9: Caleb Williams bright because we're talking about.

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Speaker 5: New quarterbacks, new systems.

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Speaker 3: Guys.

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Speaker 9: We got twelve games today and then obviously a Monday nighter,

1967
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Speaker 9: so we added all together thirteen games on the slate,

1968
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Speaker 9: four teams on the by Denver, Detroit, San Francisco in Jacksonville.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 9: You finally get to catch your breath a second here, Bucky.

1971
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Speaker 9: So I'm happy. Hopefully an extra hour or two of sleep,

1972
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Speaker 9: maybe maybe a little extra you know, bad television watching

1973
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Speaker 9: instead of potentially bad film tape.

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Speaker 5: All right, what do you got, Shay? What's the number?

1975
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Speaker 11: So Clemson's at forty three percent. And I'm going to

1976
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Speaker 11: compare that to U C l A, which is at

1977
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Speaker 11: a nine percent acceptance.

1978
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Speaker 5: So there you go. Huh, there's the number for you there, Andy,

1979
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Speaker 5: So you can flip the met that down.

1980
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Speaker 3: So I call him on Tuesday night, I'll know close

1981
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Speaker 3: a forty three percent accept its rate. Really see any

1982
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Speaker 3: of the high school diploma again at the Clemson.

1983
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Speaker 11: It's a seventy dollars education fee.

1984
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Speaker 1: Man, yell over here, really disparaging the Clemson Tigers.

1985
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Speaker 4: We know he's done.

1986
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Speaker 1: It to me.

1987
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Speaker 2: And if you applications, yeah, jeez, yeah, the application process

1988
01:28:49,080 --> 01:28:50,519
Speaker 2: goes up when your team is successful.

1989
01:28:50,560 --> 01:28:52,920
Speaker 1: Here's what now, now, here's here's the thing.

1990
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Speaker 9: Because I didn't take any shots at the academic prowess

1991
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Speaker 9: of Clembing.

1992
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Speaker 1: No, I know you don't have to. I mean you

1993
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Speaker 1: don't have to hear walk it you Northwestern.

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Speaker 2: There's nothing that we can dispute about the academics and

1995
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Speaker 2: when it comes to the rigors of getting in to

1996
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Speaker 2: the program and all that other stuff.

1997
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Speaker 1: But let's talk about Clemson because you guys are really

1998
01:29:09,240 --> 01:29:10,240
Speaker 1: on Dabbo.

1999
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Speaker 2: Going back at the caller, is he how is he

2000
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Speaker 2: supposed to answer that he's supposed to be.

2001
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Speaker 1: Yep, you're right, we suck. Yep, I'm responsible watching.

2002
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Speaker 3: His life story. But I got hired at a little salary.

2003
01:29:23,920 --> 01:29:26,240
Speaker 3: I work my freaking ass off. That's what he said

2004
01:29:26,400 --> 01:29:28,000
Speaker 3: on this phone call. I don't need to hear that.

2005
01:29:28,439 --> 01:29:28,760
Speaker 1: You know what.

2006
01:29:29,240 --> 01:29:31,559
Speaker 3: You know what he says, it's your opinion. You're right, well,

2007
01:29:31,600 --> 01:29:33,880
Speaker 3: having a bad year. It's on me, Boom, that's it.

2008
01:29:35,520 --> 01:29:37,800
Speaker 1: But I like to hear Dabbo live his truth.

2009
01:29:38,280 --> 01:29:41,519
Speaker 2: Look, you know talking about appreciation and expectation, and it

2010
01:29:41,640 --> 01:29:43,080
Speaker 2: used to be a place of appreciation.

2011
01:29:43,560 --> 01:29:47,280
Speaker 13: Now it's a place of expectation, appreciated for all. Now

2012
01:29:47,320 --> 01:29:50,400
Speaker 13: it's a place brought to the type demolition. That's a demolition,

2013
01:29:50,760 --> 01:29:54,639
Speaker 13: that's what it is. It's over. It's over a Clemson Wow.

2014
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Speaker 4: And you know what I didn't like.

2015
01:29:55,479 --> 01:29:57,720
Speaker 3: I read about him in Sports Illustrated Soviet It said

2016
01:29:57,760 --> 01:29:59,920
Speaker 3: this earlier he makes these kids go to church.

2017
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Speaker 4: What it makes you a better persona agen.

2018
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Speaker 2: So here's what I said about Andy, Like why that

2019
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Speaker 2: works in that place? You have to understand where Clem's

2020
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Speaker 2: in his position. So Clempson is in is in South Carolina,

2021
01:30:18,320 --> 01:30:20,439
Speaker 2: in the heart of the Bible Belt, Okay, So when

2022
01:30:20,520 --> 01:30:24,040
Speaker 2: Dabo takes that pitch and he does it to recruits,

2023
01:30:24,040 --> 01:30:26,880
Speaker 2: you got to remember, all of these guys, whatever the

2024
01:30:26,960 --> 01:30:30,160
Speaker 2: family situation is, that's what mom wants to hear because

2025
01:30:30,160 --> 01:30:32,040
Speaker 2: a lot of them are you and Dabbo as the

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Speaker 2: father figure, like the extension of whether it's a two

2027
01:30:35,000 --> 01:30:36,960
Speaker 2: parent home or not, he is going to be the

2028
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Speaker 2: most impactful, uh male influence on them.

2029
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Speaker 1: So when he talks.

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Speaker 2: About those values, because remember in the South, the Bible

2031
01:30:44,680 --> 01:30:46,880
Speaker 2: belt those values, when he is able to tie in

2032
01:30:46,960 --> 01:30:50,080
Speaker 2: the church man, he earns kudos from those parents.

2033
01:30:50,120 --> 01:30:50,320
Speaker 1: And so.

2034
01:30:52,120 --> 01:30:54,160
Speaker 4: At North Carolina did not brown side.

2035
01:30:55,400 --> 01:31:00,280
Speaker 1: He didn't say it, but he talked about it.

2036
01:31:00,320 --> 01:31:02,320
Speaker 2: He talked about it in a different in a different

2037
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Speaker 2: way in terms of being a good person in those things.

2038
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Speaker 2: Dabbo is outwardly is really outspoken about his faith in

2039
01:31:09,280 --> 01:31:11,680
Speaker 2: those things. Like the way he got dj you get

2040
01:31:11,720 --> 01:31:13,840
Speaker 2: Lele to come there, a lot had to do with

2041
01:31:13,960 --> 01:31:15,679
Speaker 2: being a man of faith in those things.

2042
01:31:15,760 --> 01:31:18,040
Speaker 1: And so he understands it as it.

2043
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Speaker 2: Relates to the recruiting hustle in the South where their

2044
01:31:21,600 --> 01:31:25,120
Speaker 2: position that I won't even call it stick, that that

2045
01:31:25,400 --> 01:31:29,000
Speaker 2: that spin, that sales pitch resonates differently than it.

2046
01:31:29,000 --> 01:31:30,120
Speaker 4: With resident out West.

2047
01:31:30,360 --> 01:31:33,240
Speaker 3: Yes, I've read what I've read about him. He has

2048
01:31:33,320 --> 01:31:36,200
Speaker 3: a bus that takes these kids and it's a mandatory thing.

2049
01:31:36,479 --> 01:31:38,400
Speaker 3: And look, you could be an atheist and you still

2050
01:31:38,439 --> 01:31:40,000
Speaker 3: have to get on that bus and go to church.

2051
01:31:40,880 --> 01:31:43,200
Speaker 9: But if you come into a program and those are

2052
01:31:43,240 --> 01:31:47,080
Speaker 9: the expectations and those are not get up front, right.

2053
01:31:47,120 --> 01:31:49,800
Speaker 9: I think it's our culture because Notre Dame does it right.

2054
01:31:50,360 --> 01:31:52,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, because at Notre Dame you have to attend masks.

2055
01:31:52,640 --> 01:31:55,639
Speaker 2: You still have to go to mass, I know, regardless

2056
01:31:55,640 --> 01:31:58,560
Speaker 2: of whether you're practicing Catholicism or whatever, you still go

2057
01:31:58,960 --> 01:32:01,679
Speaker 2: to attend, you know, And so some of those things

2058
01:32:01,800 --> 01:32:02,320
Speaker 2: are baked in.

2059
01:32:02,360 --> 01:32:03,240
Speaker 1: Now, Clemson is not.

2060
01:32:03,280 --> 01:32:05,840
Speaker 2: A religious institution, I will tell you, some of those

2061
01:32:05,880 --> 01:32:08,280
Speaker 2: things are baked into the fabrica of who the program

2062
01:32:08,479 --> 01:32:09,679
Speaker 2: is because that's a part of what the school.

2063
01:32:10,000 --> 01:32:10,760
Speaker 4: This is a true story.

2064
01:32:10,840 --> 01:32:12,679
Speaker 3: I was a sports information there there for two years

2065
01:32:12,680 --> 01:32:16,120
Speaker 3: at all Roberts University, Okay, and they have chapel services

2066
01:32:16,200 --> 01:32:17,080
Speaker 3: on Wednesday and Friday.

2067
01:32:17,120 --> 01:32:18,040
Speaker 4: The school shuts down.

2068
01:32:18,240 --> 01:32:20,880
Speaker 3: I couldn't even turn a light on. The electricity shut off.

2069
01:32:20,960 --> 01:32:22,960
Speaker 3: You couldn't type the type. We had no computers. Then

2070
01:32:23,280 --> 01:32:25,640
Speaker 3: the typewriters were gone and the electric typewri So go

2071
01:32:25,720 --> 01:32:28,600
Speaker 3: to chapel President Roberts by hint to God. When I

2072
01:32:28,640 --> 01:32:30,920
Speaker 3: say this, President Roberts called me in his office. If

2073
01:32:30,920 --> 01:32:33,400
Speaker 3: you don't feel like going to Chapel services, you don't

2074
01:32:33,439 --> 01:32:33,720
Speaker 3: have to go.

2075
01:32:34,000 --> 01:32:35,599
Speaker 4: That's what he told me. And I went every now

2076
01:32:35,600 --> 01:32:35,960
Speaker 4: and again.

2077
01:32:36,080 --> 01:32:40,120
Speaker 5: Were you sitting there slumping and causing? And that is that?

2078
01:32:40,200 --> 01:32:42,280
Speaker 1: Why? Example?

2079
01:32:42,360 --> 01:32:43,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean you were doing.

2080
01:32:46,040 --> 01:32:46,320
Speaker 1: Okay.

2081
01:32:46,360 --> 01:32:48,519
Speaker 3: But they had guest speakers, which I was interested in,

2082
01:32:48,640 --> 01:32:51,240
Speaker 3: and I never saw anybody. I never understood what talking

2083
01:32:51,320 --> 01:32:53,080
Speaker 3: and tongues was all about. So I wanted to go

2084
01:32:53,200 --> 01:32:53,439
Speaker 3: see it.

2085
01:32:53,640 --> 01:32:53,920
Speaker 4: I went.

2086
01:32:54,160 --> 01:32:56,439
Speaker 3: I went to say, ninety percent of the chapel services,

2087
01:32:56,479 --> 01:32:57,600
Speaker 3: Why what else could you do?

2088
01:32:57,760 --> 01:32:58,760
Speaker 4: The school was shut down?

2089
01:32:58,920 --> 01:33:01,719
Speaker 5: All right, Mike.

2090
01:33:01,640 --> 01:33:05,880
Speaker 9: Carbon alongside Andy Furman, Buggy Brooks here at Fox Football Sunday.

2091
01:33:06,040 --> 01:33:08,680
Speaker 9: Definitely not where I thought that was gonna go. I'm

2092
01:33:08,800 --> 01:33:11,160
Speaker 9: just of the belief, guys. As soon as you start

2093
01:33:11,400 --> 01:33:16,120
Speaker 9: declaring if this happens, I quit. Maybe maybe it happens.

2094
01:33:16,160 --> 01:33:19,200
Speaker 9: Hi mad Dog, Hi, Arnie Spaniard, I know you're up

2095
01:33:19,240 --> 01:33:23,240
Speaker 9: and listening. Welcome to the party here. Fox put the

2096
01:33:23,320 --> 01:33:25,960
Speaker 9: foot out of their mouth. Yeah, I mean, look, find

2097
01:33:26,000 --> 01:33:29,240
Speaker 9: motivation where you are. But to your point, Andy, I

2098
01:33:29,320 --> 01:33:32,080
Speaker 9: think some you know, he even had some excuses he

2099
01:33:32,120 --> 01:33:34,160
Speaker 9: could have made a little bit. I mean they've been

2100
01:33:34,280 --> 01:33:37,479
Speaker 9: injury riddled the whole season. Like that is certainly one

2101
01:33:37,560 --> 01:33:39,519
Speaker 9: thing there. You know, we talk about the dearth of

2102
01:33:39,680 --> 01:33:43,280
Speaker 9: offensive linemen in the NFL Clemson this year. That is

2103
01:33:43,360 --> 01:33:47,280
Speaker 9: one program where you can identify with the woes of

2104
01:33:47,400 --> 01:33:50,800
Speaker 9: the next level because they're cycling through. I think they're

2105
01:33:50,840 --> 01:33:54,040
Speaker 9: on Guy's nine ten to eleven, helping to anchor hit the.

2106
01:33:54,080 --> 01:33:56,000
Speaker 4: Portal, stuck going to church, hit the portal.

2107
01:33:56,760 --> 01:33:59,000
Speaker 2: Andy is big on the porter. He believed that they

2108
01:33:59,000 --> 01:34:01,519
Speaker 2: should just live in the port He wants everyone to

2109
01:34:01,720 --> 01:34:02,040
Speaker 2: just like.

2110
01:34:04,920 --> 01:34:07,960
Speaker 9: Hey, did you start watching Spider Man into the spider

2111
01:34:08,080 --> 01:34:10,640
Speaker 9: Verse or whatever that just showed up on Netflix? Is

2112
01:34:10,680 --> 01:34:11,479
Speaker 9: that what you're doing now?

2113
01:34:11,520 --> 01:34:12,679
Speaker 5: You just want to jump around?

2114
01:34:12,880 --> 01:34:14,040
Speaker 4: Okay, let me turn it off now.

2115
01:34:15,960 --> 01:34:18,120
Speaker 5: See I just took you down a deep dark pan though.

2116
01:34:18,360 --> 01:34:22,160
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2117
01:34:22,280 --> 01:34:25,240
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2118
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2119
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2120
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2121
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2122
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2123
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2125
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2126
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2128
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2129
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2130
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2131
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2133
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2134
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2135
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2136
01:35:16,600 --> 01:35:19,040
Speaker 9: We talk about Caleb Williams. Why because there are a

2137
01:35:19,120 --> 01:35:21,679
Speaker 9: lot of young quarterbacks getting their shots?

2138
01:35:21,960 --> 01:35:24,479
Speaker 5: How many this week? And what does the slate look like?

2139
01:35:25,080 --> 01:35:28,519
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's that panic time for us as NFL fans,

2140
01:35:28,560 --> 01:35:32,400
Speaker 9: So we need to appreciate six of the twelve games

2141
01:35:32,880 --> 01:35:35,080
Speaker 9: today for a very special reason. We'll tell you why

2142
01:35:35,200 --> 01:35:37,720
Speaker 9: next year on Fox, Great Eggs, Welcome back in It's

2143
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Speaker 9: Fox Football Sunday. Here Fox Sports Radio Live from the

2144
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Speaker 9: tire rack dot Com studios, Mike Carmen alongside Bucky Brooks

2145
01:35:45,120 --> 01:35:48,160
Speaker 9: Andy Furman having a blast with you this morning. Gentlemen,

2146
01:35:48,840 --> 01:35:53,160
Speaker 9: Six rookie quarterbacks will be under center today as teams

2147
01:35:53,200 --> 01:35:55,799
Speaker 9: take the field for Week nine. In Earnest, we already

2148
01:35:55,840 --> 01:35:59,639
Speaker 9: saw one one rookie play, right. We saw Will Levis

2149
01:35:59,680 --> 01:36:02,280
Speaker 9: get out after it. We add Clayton Tune to the

2150
01:36:02,360 --> 01:36:06,360
Speaker 9: mix there in Arizona. Larger question, will Kyler Murray ever

2151
01:36:06,479 --> 01:36:09,080
Speaker 9: actually come out of the bubble wrap this year? But

2152
01:36:09,960 --> 01:36:13,160
Speaker 9: on the slate today, with those four teams taken a bye, Denver,

2153
01:36:13,360 --> 01:36:18,240
Speaker 9: San Francisco, Detroit and Jacksonville all at this point still

2154
01:36:18,600 --> 01:36:22,120
Speaker 9: blessed to have their starters rolling, would you believe we

2155
01:36:22,200 --> 01:36:24,960
Speaker 9: only have six of those twelve matchups where the original

2156
01:36:25,080 --> 01:36:29,719
Speaker 9: quarterbacks are suiting up for their respective teams. We're already

2157
01:36:29,760 --> 01:36:35,000
Speaker 9: at half and we're halfway through the season. Andy, it's

2158
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Speaker 9: a preponderance. And this goes back to the Caleb Williams

2159
01:36:38,520 --> 01:36:41,240
Speaker 9: Drake May and I think why we're dissecting these guys.

2160
01:36:41,680 --> 01:36:45,080
Speaker 9: Perhaps every year it seems like we calibrate a little

2161
01:36:45,080 --> 01:36:49,080
Speaker 9: bit more that margin for error, and one bad throw

2162
01:36:49,560 --> 01:36:55,240
Speaker 9: suddenly condemns you in the eyes of the collective scouting world,

2163
01:36:55,840 --> 01:36:58,639
Speaker 9: i e. The Twitter verse in terms of how good

2164
01:36:59,120 --> 01:37:02,840
Speaker 9: or poorly, or how well or poorly you're playing well.

2165
01:37:02,920 --> 01:37:05,400
Speaker 4: I mean, it's a game. It's a dangerous game. I

2166
01:37:05,439 --> 01:37:07,400
Speaker 4: mean I never played it. Any bucket played it'll tell you.

2167
01:37:07,479 --> 01:37:08,719
Speaker 4: I mean it's brutal.

2168
01:37:08,760 --> 01:37:10,760
Speaker 3: If you ever go to a football game, a pro game,

2169
01:37:11,200 --> 01:37:13,519
Speaker 3: and with a media pass and stay on the sidelines,

2170
01:37:13,560 --> 01:37:14,479
Speaker 3: you could hear those hits.

2171
01:37:14,640 --> 01:37:15,479
Speaker 5: Oh it's not scary.

2172
01:37:15,520 --> 01:37:17,760
Speaker 3: I wouldn't want to be part of those hits. I mean,

2173
01:37:18,040 --> 01:37:22,479
Speaker 3: but these thumb injuries would Fields and Stafford I mean,

2174
01:37:22,760 --> 01:37:25,400
Speaker 3: and Kirk Cousins. It's a shame that they started with

2175
01:37:25,479 --> 01:37:28,879
Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers. I mean. And no one as a teammate

2176
01:37:28,920 --> 01:37:31,240
Speaker 3: wants to see a teammate hurt, And as a fan,

2177
01:37:31,640 --> 01:37:33,640
Speaker 3: you want to see the best possible players playing at

2178
01:37:33,640 --> 01:37:36,080
Speaker 3: all times. I mean, last week when the Bengals beat

2179
01:37:36,080 --> 01:37:38,160
Speaker 3: the forty nine is, I was happy because I'm a

2180
01:37:38,200 --> 01:37:38,640
Speaker 3: Bengal fan.

2181
01:37:38,720 --> 01:37:39,400
Speaker 4: I live in the region.

2182
01:37:39,439 --> 01:37:42,000
Speaker 3: I live in northern Kentucky, right near Cincinnati, so I

2183
01:37:42,080 --> 01:37:42,840
Speaker 3: want to see them.

2184
01:37:42,720 --> 01:37:43,639
Speaker 4: Win, but you don't.

2185
01:37:43,680 --> 01:37:45,720
Speaker 3: I would see them win at the expense of not

2186
01:37:45,920 --> 01:37:49,559
Speaker 3: having several players like Deebo Samuel and Trent Williams. These

2187
01:37:49,600 --> 01:37:52,439
Speaker 3: guys didn't play, So you know, does it mean anything. Well,

2188
01:37:52,520 --> 01:37:54,200
Speaker 3: the W at the end of the day, no one

2189
01:37:54,320 --> 01:37:56,800
Speaker 3: cares a W. But you want to see them play

2190
01:37:56,840 --> 01:37:58,479
Speaker 3: against the best versus the best.

2191
01:38:00,280 --> 01:38:02,360
Speaker 2: Absolutely, you want to see him play best on best.

2192
01:38:02,439 --> 01:38:04,320
Speaker 2: But here's the issue that you have in the Nation

2193
01:38:04,360 --> 01:38:06,320
Speaker 2: Football League. I think right now we've up to forty

2194
01:38:06,360 --> 01:38:09,640
Speaker 2: six guys have taken snaps at quarterback, and you just

2195
01:38:09,720 --> 01:38:11,799
Speaker 2: think about the league and you think about the amount

2196
01:38:11,840 --> 01:38:14,639
Speaker 2: of new young quarterbacks that are having to play.

2197
01:38:15,080 --> 01:38:17,360
Speaker 1: One of the things that has always boggled my mind.

2198
01:38:17,479 --> 01:38:20,519
Speaker 2: You always to hear about a the young quarterback didn't

2199
01:38:20,520 --> 01:38:24,240
Speaker 2: get any reps in practice, because what happens NFL guys

2200
01:38:24,360 --> 01:38:27,040
Speaker 2: the number one, the starting quarterback, takes all the reps

2201
01:38:27,120 --> 01:38:29,439
Speaker 2: during the regular practice period when it comes to team

2202
01:38:30,000 --> 01:38:32,280
Speaker 2: and so you get these young guys who we're talking

2203
01:38:32,320 --> 01:38:34,960
Speaker 2: about the number of injuries at quarterback, and then everyone

2204
01:38:35,080 --> 01:38:36,920
Speaker 2: wonders man, this guy looks like he's not ready to

2205
01:38:37,000 --> 01:38:40,160
Speaker 2: play because he doesn't get any practice reps. The backup

2206
01:38:40,240 --> 01:38:43,800
Speaker 2: quarterbacks only take the scout team reps and maybe one

2207
01:38:43,920 --> 01:38:47,160
Speaker 2: or two per team period. So my thing has always been,

2208
01:38:48,320 --> 01:38:50,200
Speaker 2: you know, if the odd suggest that we're going to

2209
01:38:50,240 --> 01:38:53,559
Speaker 2: eventually have to play our backup quarterback, shouldn't we probably

2210
01:38:53,640 --> 01:38:56,160
Speaker 2: get him some practice reps. I know the starter wants

2211
01:38:56,200 --> 01:38:58,000
Speaker 2: to take all of them, so why don't we either

2212
01:38:58,120 --> 01:38:59,439
Speaker 2: cut down the game plan menu.

2213
01:39:00,280 --> 01:39:02,360
Speaker 1: They can get like maybe you.

2214
01:39:02,479 --> 01:39:05,479
Speaker 2: Get three fourths three quarters of the reps and he

2215
01:39:05,560 --> 01:39:07,639
Speaker 2: gets a quarter of the reps, so he's ready.

2216
01:39:08,040 --> 01:39:09,680
Speaker 1: But they don't do that in the pros. And so

2217
01:39:09,800 --> 01:39:11,439
Speaker 1: when you see the vast difference in.

2218
01:39:11,479 --> 01:39:13,760
Speaker 2: Performance between the number one and the number two guys,

2219
01:39:14,040 --> 01:39:16,559
Speaker 2: a lot of times it's due to the preparation they

2220
01:39:16,640 --> 01:39:19,280
Speaker 2: need to start preparing the backup quarterback because the backup

2221
01:39:19,360 --> 01:39:21,120
Speaker 2: quarterback eventually is gonna get hm the field.

2222
01:39:20,880 --> 01:39:23,320
Speaker 9: For you good saying in most cases, because we always

2223
01:39:23,400 --> 01:39:25,679
Speaker 9: used to talk about it, you know, leading in and Bucky,

2224
01:39:25,720 --> 01:39:29,320
Speaker 9: I know you dominate your fantasy league, so you recognize this. Well,

2225
01:39:29,400 --> 01:39:32,080
Speaker 9: it's the Hey, what was the number of guys that

2226
01:39:32,200 --> 01:39:34,599
Speaker 9: got through the season on scathes, and it would usually

2227
01:39:34,680 --> 01:39:37,280
Speaker 9: be Peyton Manning before he did his Queen's Wave in

2228
01:39:37,360 --> 01:39:40,800
Speaker 9: week sixteen or seventeen with sim Jim Sorgi. You had

2229
01:39:40,840 --> 01:39:44,000
Speaker 9: his brother Eli, you had Philip Rivers for the longest time,

2230
01:39:44,040 --> 01:39:47,120
Speaker 9: and you had Tom Brady. So you had those four

2231
01:39:47,280 --> 01:39:50,360
Speaker 9: and then you were hoping and wishing beyond that to

2232
01:39:50,439 --> 01:39:52,320
Speaker 9: see if you got a guy through the full sixteen.

2233
01:39:52,640 --> 01:39:55,519
Speaker 9: Now you add an extra game, etc. And Andy, you

2234
01:39:55,600 --> 01:39:58,519
Speaker 9: mentioned the thumb injuries. Since you can't land on the quarterback,

2235
01:39:58,560 --> 01:40:00,679
Speaker 9: I guess you swipe out his arms. We gonna outload

2236
01:40:00,720 --> 01:40:01,479
Speaker 9: that next Bucky.

2237
01:40:02,920 --> 01:40:05,320
Speaker 2: I mean, they'll try and find a way. They will

2238
01:40:05,400 --> 01:40:07,479
Speaker 2: try and find a way to make it where you're

2239
01:40:07,520 --> 01:40:10,439
Speaker 2: not able to do those things. But at some point

2240
01:40:10,479 --> 01:40:12,840
Speaker 2: they got to play ball. You know, you gotta play ball.

2241
01:40:12,920 --> 01:40:14,280
Speaker 2: You gotta be able to kind of get it done,

2242
01:40:14,640 --> 01:40:17,080
Speaker 2: and if you don't, it's gonna be a problem.

2243
01:40:17,439 --> 01:40:19,880
Speaker 9: Well, Patrick Mahomes says he's ready for flag football in

2244
01:40:19,920 --> 01:40:20,720
Speaker 9: twenty twenty eight.

2245
01:40:20,920 --> 01:40:25,680
Speaker 4: So I'm going to tell you right now, this is

2246
01:40:25,760 --> 01:40:27,519
Speaker 4: nothing new. It's part of the game.

2247
01:40:27,560 --> 01:40:29,479
Speaker 3: And I remember when Dan Marino got injured back in

2248
01:40:29,520 --> 01:40:32,360
Speaker 3: nineteen ninety three, he had the Achilles thing. Also, you know,

2249
01:40:32,439 --> 01:40:35,320
Speaker 3: the good news is that modern medicine is so much

2250
01:40:35,360 --> 01:40:37,120
Speaker 3: better than it is day than it was then. When

2251
01:40:37,200 --> 01:40:39,479
Speaker 3: you can get back a lot quicker, that's the key.

2252
01:40:39,800 --> 01:40:42,760
Speaker 3: But this is nothing new, It's part of the game. Now,

2253
01:40:42,920 --> 01:40:45,320
Speaker 3: how do you fix that? You know, maybe play less games.

2254
01:40:45,320 --> 01:40:47,960
Speaker 3: They're talked about expanding to eighteen games. And I've always

2255
01:40:48,000 --> 01:40:51,320
Speaker 3: said the more games played, the more possibility of injury.

2256
01:40:51,600 --> 01:40:52,519
Speaker 3: That's what it's all about.

2257
01:40:52,640 --> 01:40:52,840
Speaker 1: Wow.

2258
01:40:52,920 --> 01:40:56,200
Speaker 9: But it's more money in everybody's pockets, of course, so

2259
01:40:56,280 --> 01:40:57,200
Speaker 9: it makes you feel better.

2260
01:40:57,760 --> 01:41:00,240
Speaker 3: And that's why they're playing in Germany today. And if

2261
01:41:00,280 --> 01:41:02,960
Speaker 3: I was a season ticket holder of the Kansas City Chiefs,

2262
01:41:03,080 --> 01:41:05,920
Speaker 3: I'd be going but ballistic because I want to see

2263
01:41:05,960 --> 01:41:08,559
Speaker 3: that game against the Dolphins, and it certainly takes away

2264
01:41:08,560 --> 01:41:11,280
Speaker 3: a home game. And I'm a season ticket owner package

2265
01:41:11,360 --> 01:41:14,040
Speaker 3: and I lose one game, I lose one season ticket game.

2266
01:41:13,920 --> 01:41:15,479
Speaker 5: And I would give you a big hug and say

2267
01:41:15,520 --> 01:41:16,519
Speaker 5: it's for the greater good.

2268
01:41:17,080 --> 01:41:19,080
Speaker 4: Oh please, it'd be greater good.

2269
01:41:19,240 --> 01:41:20,720
Speaker 9: And no, no, no, But here's the thing, like, and

2270
01:41:20,760 --> 01:41:23,160
Speaker 9: I made this analogy earlier this week, right, all of

2271
01:41:23,200 --> 01:41:26,040
Speaker 9: a sudden, everybody got outraged about that game being in

2272
01:41:26,120 --> 01:41:28,800
Speaker 9: Germany again today. Guess what it was announced months ago.

2273
01:41:29,240 --> 01:41:31,360
Speaker 9: It's kind of like when you schedule a doctor's or

2274
01:41:31,479 --> 01:41:34,880
Speaker 9: dentist visit. You you're salty that you make the appointment,

2275
01:41:35,120 --> 01:41:37,920
Speaker 9: and then you forget about it until the week comes up.

2276
01:41:37,960 --> 01:41:40,519
Speaker 9: It's like, ah, man, on Tuesday, I gotta go to

2277
01:41:40,640 --> 01:41:44,080
Speaker 9: the dentist, and psychologically you're mad, and then you try

2278
01:41:44,120 --> 01:41:45,920
Speaker 9: to get out of it and say, ah work, you know,

2279
01:41:46,080 --> 01:41:48,160
Speaker 9: kick that can down the road. In this case, like

2280
01:41:48,240 --> 01:41:49,960
Speaker 9: all of a sudden, everybody got mad about it. All

2281
01:41:50,000 --> 01:41:52,439
Speaker 9: these shit well, we had expectations for those two teams,

2282
01:41:52,920 --> 01:41:54,720
Speaker 9: so the time to be mad was six or eight

2283
01:41:54,760 --> 01:41:55,479
Speaker 9: months ago, and.

2284
01:41:55,600 --> 01:41:56,880
Speaker 4: You still couldn't do anything about it.

2285
01:41:57,040 --> 01:41:59,800
Speaker 5: You can watch it, watch it, big life goes on.

2286
01:42:00,360 --> 01:42:03,400
Speaker 5: You can see other football games. You're you're a Kansas

2287
01:42:03,439 --> 01:42:04,439
Speaker 5: City Chiefs fan.

2288
01:42:04,800 --> 01:42:07,840
Speaker 9: You have seen far bigger games in the last five

2289
01:42:07,960 --> 01:42:10,760
Speaker 9: years than a damn not Week nine game against the

2290
01:42:10,800 --> 01:42:11,799
Speaker 9: Miami Dolphins.

2291
01:42:11,800 --> 01:42:12,479
Speaker 4: I hear what you say.

2292
01:42:12,520 --> 01:42:14,200
Speaker 3: But if you seize ticket hole that you put that

2293
01:42:14,320 --> 01:42:16,120
Speaker 3: some good hot or in cash, and you want to

2294
01:42:16,240 --> 01:42:18,200
Speaker 3: see that game, and they move it to Germany, and

2295
01:42:18,280 --> 01:42:19,880
Speaker 3: those people in Germany could care less.

2296
01:42:20,080 --> 01:42:23,599
Speaker 5: They don't that's not true. Oh, that is categorically untrue.

2297
01:42:24,960 --> 01:42:25,439
Speaker 9: Exactly.

2298
01:42:25,760 --> 01:42:27,719
Speaker 3: There's no rooting interest for them. It's just an event.

2299
01:42:27,800 --> 01:42:29,600
Speaker 3: It's an event to go to, like going to this.

2300
01:42:29,640 --> 01:42:32,320
Speaker 4: Why is that bad? Going to the Ohio State Fair.

2301
01:42:32,400 --> 01:42:33,920
Speaker 4: That's what it's all about, Bucky, Why.

2302
01:42:33,960 --> 01:42:34,479
Speaker 10: Is that bad?

2303
01:42:34,640 --> 01:42:36,840
Speaker 9: You've been part of these international yams is and that

2304
01:42:37,000 --> 01:42:41,040
Speaker 9: the whole thing growing, cultivating the game, wrapping the world

2305
01:42:41,120 --> 01:42:43,719
Speaker 9: in a big hudge and turning them over and taking

2306
01:42:43,760 --> 01:42:44,360
Speaker 9: their dollars.

2307
01:42:44,720 --> 01:42:48,760
Speaker 4: Yes, well you work in the NFL off there is.

2308
01:42:48,760 --> 01:42:51,439
Speaker 2: Something, there's something to it. But I will say this, right,

2309
01:42:51,680 --> 01:42:53,680
Speaker 2: I'll say this, Mike Carman. We don't have to give

2310
01:42:53,720 --> 01:42:54,559
Speaker 2: them our a games.

2311
01:42:54,880 --> 01:42:57,160
Speaker 5: We can give them something the first a game anybody's

2312
01:42:57,200 --> 01:42:57,800
Speaker 5: ever gotten.

2313
01:42:59,200 --> 01:43:03,000
Speaker 2: I mean, not to disparage your Chicago Bears, but can

2314
01:43:03,120 --> 01:43:05,559
Speaker 2: we give them the Bears versus the New Orleans Saints.

2315
01:43:05,600 --> 01:43:09,760
Speaker 9: We've been jack Hey, exactly, Andy, like Bucky, you can

2316
01:43:09,800 --> 01:43:11,000
Speaker 9: try to cast stones here.

2317
01:43:11,320 --> 01:43:11,600
Speaker 1: That's what.

2318
01:43:13,200 --> 01:43:15,519
Speaker 9: Team you're working for has been going over there for years,

2319
01:43:15,600 --> 01:43:17,120
Speaker 9: and for a lot of times it wasn't the fair

2320
01:43:17,200 --> 01:43:18,880
Speaker 9: head boy named Trevor Lawrence.

2321
01:43:18,640 --> 01:43:23,479
Speaker 1: Running a round. What I'm saying, That's what I'm saying Yeah, can't. Can't.

2322
01:43:23,640 --> 01:43:26,040
Speaker 2: Can't we give them just like I mean just, I

2323
01:43:26,080 --> 01:43:28,040
Speaker 2: mean we don't have to give them a full tasty cake.

2324
01:43:28,240 --> 01:43:30,240
Speaker 2: Can we just give them like a crump like.

2325
01:43:30,439 --> 01:43:31,920
Speaker 4: Just But that's what everybody's been getting.

2326
01:43:31,960 --> 01:43:35,759
Speaker 5: That's the first one. And how many circumstances were meaning.

2327
01:43:35,560 --> 01:43:36,200
Speaker 1: Let's go back.

2328
01:43:37,560 --> 01:43:40,880
Speaker 9: Lex it out after teasing it for eight months, they're

2329
01:43:40,960 --> 01:43:42,559
Speaker 9: both really good at six and two.

2330
01:43:42,640 --> 01:43:43,200
Speaker 5: Now, hell with it.

2331
01:43:43,600 --> 01:43:47,640
Speaker 1: You bought your stuff, like you A game would have

2332
01:43:47,680 --> 01:43:49,439
Speaker 1: been you know, a game would have been great this.

2333
01:43:51,720 --> 01:43:54,200
Speaker 2: That one the Tampa Bay Buccaneers versus the Text would

2334
01:43:54,200 --> 01:43:55,400
Speaker 2: have been a great game for them to watch.

2335
01:43:55,640 --> 01:43:57,759
Speaker 1: That would have been a great game. Like it's early.

2336
01:43:58,040 --> 01:44:00,320
Speaker 13: They can get a little NFL thing because they still

2337
01:44:00,600 --> 01:44:03,320
Speaker 13: an opportunity, They go like, they still.

2338
01:44:03,120 --> 01:44:04,080
Speaker 1: Would have had an opportunity.

2339
01:44:05,080 --> 01:44:07,920
Speaker 2: We would have had an opportunity to see, like what

2340
01:44:08,120 --> 01:44:10,000
Speaker 2: the game of the century as they build it. Because

2341
01:44:10,040 --> 01:44:12,559
Speaker 2: remember years ago when the Rams and the Chiefs were

2342
01:44:12,560 --> 01:44:14,679
Speaker 2: supposed to play, were they supposed to play in Mexico City,

2343
01:44:14,720 --> 01:44:15,679
Speaker 2: but they had to play that game.

2344
01:44:15,520 --> 01:44:19,639
Speaker 1: In Las right right? See that's another one.

2345
01:44:19,960 --> 01:44:22,400
Speaker 2: We don't need to farm out those a games you

2346
01:44:22,479 --> 01:44:25,040
Speaker 2: ever made the schedule could look and see the Miami

2347
01:44:25,080 --> 01:44:26,640
Speaker 2: Dolphins are probably going to be pretty good. You know

2348
01:44:26,880 --> 01:44:28,599
Speaker 2: you can't see the Chiefs will probably be pretty good.

2349
01:44:28,960 --> 01:44:30,080
Speaker 1: No need to put those guys.

2350
01:44:30,240 --> 01:44:32,400
Speaker 9: How about they fix the issue of playing a team

2351
01:44:32,560 --> 01:44:36,320
Speaker 9: twice in three weeks first, or playing all your division

2352
01:44:36,400 --> 01:44:39,000
Speaker 9: games after everybody's you know, we already had forty six

2353
01:44:39,160 --> 01:44:42,720
Speaker 9: quarterbacks in week nine, Week fifteen, and seventeen. Yeah, let's

2354
01:44:42,760 --> 01:44:45,920
Speaker 9: play division games down the stretch. Who's playing our fourth

2355
01:44:46,000 --> 01:44:50,679
Speaker 9: string quarterback? Let's go battle for the division. Let's fix

2356
01:44:50,800 --> 01:44:54,080
Speaker 9: that first instead of worrying about the one off international game.

2357
01:44:54,200 --> 01:44:57,479
Speaker 2: Fellas, I'm just saying it just would have made a

2358
01:44:57,520 --> 01:44:59,320
Speaker 2: little more sense to me if we would have done it.

2359
01:45:00,840 --> 01:45:03,519
Speaker 3: I'm just carrying the flag for the season ticket holder.

2360
01:45:03,840 --> 01:45:07,360
Speaker 3: You're in the clall, let's let's let's cry for joke,

2361
01:45:07,400 --> 01:45:10,880
Speaker 3: you fan. Let's let's he puts out a lot of scalping.

2362
01:45:10,520 --> 01:45:15,080
Speaker 5: While we're at it. Yeah, at load management. Let's talk

2363
01:45:15,120 --> 01:45:16,320
Speaker 5: about load management too.

2364
01:45:16,479 --> 01:45:19,200
Speaker 3: Get out of your eifles tower over there when you're

2365
01:45:19,240 --> 01:45:21,360
Speaker 3: in I'm just a realist in this, man.

2366
01:45:21,560 --> 01:45:24,200
Speaker 9: It's like the season ticket holders, they're going to get

2367
01:45:24,240 --> 01:45:26,880
Speaker 9: to go spend extra money on playoff games.

2368
01:45:27,600 --> 01:45:31,479
Speaker 5: Good for them, Wow, and we get a standalone game.

2369
01:45:31,600 --> 01:45:33,759
Speaker 5: Here said the morning.

2370
01:45:34,520 --> 01:45:36,880
Speaker 9: If only I had his if only if I had

2371
01:45:36,920 --> 01:45:39,400
Speaker 9: his paycheck, Andy, of course, if I did that for

2372
01:45:39,479 --> 01:45:41,400
Speaker 9: one year, study again.

2373
01:45:42,080 --> 01:45:45,160
Speaker 1: I thought he was supposed to retire. I thought you

2374
01:45:45,520 --> 01:45:45,840
Speaker 1: would you.

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01:45:45,920 --> 01:45:46,479
Speaker 4: Retigne with that?

2376
01:45:46,640 --> 01:45:48,599
Speaker 9: You're gonna give me another seventy million a year.

2377
01:45:48,680 --> 01:45:49,320
Speaker 5: I'm not going.

2378
01:45:49,720 --> 01:45:51,640
Speaker 4: I just want to see what his check amount of

2379
01:45:51,720 --> 01:45:53,120
Speaker 4: zero's on that check, what it looks like.

2380
01:45:53,240 --> 01:45:55,439
Speaker 9: Nothing else can happen in the league, Bucky, You've been

2381
01:45:55,479 --> 01:45:57,360
Speaker 9: around in a minute. Andy, You and I've been doing

2382
01:45:57,439 --> 01:46:00,200
Speaker 9: this forever. Nothing else can happen in the league. Make

2383
01:46:00,240 --> 01:46:04,439
Speaker 9: anybody hate or love Roger Gondell anymore less. You've already

2384
01:46:04,479 --> 01:46:06,040
Speaker 9: taken all the slings and arrows.

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01:46:06,600 --> 01:46:08,040
Speaker 4: You can't let him leave because when they have the

2386
01:46:08,120 --> 01:46:09,160
Speaker 4: NFL Jeff love when.

2387
01:46:09,040 --> 01:46:12,439
Speaker 9: They boo him, that is become a tradition. He's not

2388
01:46:12,520 --> 01:46:16,439
Speaker 9: as lustily blue boot as Gary Bettman, but it's close. Hey.

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Speaker 9: The tagline for this hour in the podcast will be

2394
01:46:33,320 --> 01:46:38,240
Speaker 9: Harmon hates the little Man. Yeah, yes, let's get in

2395
01:46:38,720 --> 01:46:42,799
Speaker 9: Shay Shaye do that. Yes, there you go, categorically untrue.

2396
01:46:43,000 --> 01:46:45,320
Speaker 9: Harmon pays for his own tickets too. All right, let's

2397
01:46:45,360 --> 01:46:46,400
Speaker 9: we got a couple of games to get to you.

2398
01:46:46,479 --> 01:46:48,880
Speaker 9: Let's get to a big one, Cowboys at Egos. Hey,

2399
01:46:48,960 --> 01:46:50,800
Speaker 9: here's one of the games of the day and one

2400
01:46:50,840 --> 01:46:54,040
Speaker 9: of those Super six where we get the quarterbacks that

2401
01:46:54,160 --> 01:46:56,360
Speaker 9: we actually thought we were all getting at the start

2402
01:46:56,360 --> 01:47:00,280
Speaker 9: of the season. Forty seven the total, Philadelphia three point

2403
01:47:00,560 --> 01:47:04,400
Speaker 9: favorite Dallas at the trade deadline. Bucky didn't really do

2404
01:47:05,200 --> 01:47:08,519
Speaker 9: well anything. I thought we'd maybe see a bolstering of

2405
01:47:08,640 --> 01:47:11,599
Speaker 9: the wide receiving corps, maybe help for the run game

2406
01:47:11,680 --> 01:47:17,519
Speaker 9: where Tony Pollard has been sputtering. Eagles still, I think

2407
01:47:17,720 --> 01:47:20,200
Speaker 9: identity wise kind of going the way through. But if

2408
01:47:20,240 --> 01:47:23,040
Speaker 9: you can figure it out at the halfway point while

2409
01:47:23,080 --> 01:47:25,599
Speaker 9: being seven and one, there are a lot worse things

2410
01:47:25,680 --> 01:47:27,040
Speaker 9: in the National Football League.

2411
01:47:28,360 --> 01:47:30,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there are a lot worse things when

2412
01:47:30,040 --> 01:47:33,120
Speaker 2: you think about the phildelph Eagles heading into this, you know,

2413
01:47:33,200 --> 01:47:35,200
Speaker 2: but this is the one where Dak Prescott has owned

2414
01:47:35,200 --> 01:47:37,360
Speaker 2: the NFC East the last couple of years. I saw

2415
01:47:37,360 --> 01:47:39,080
Speaker 2: a step where the last three games against the Eagles,

2416
01:47:39,080 --> 01:47:40,479
Speaker 2: they've been averaging over forty points.

2417
01:47:40,520 --> 01:47:43,760
Speaker 1: Yeah per game. When he is there, that changes. The

2418
01:47:44,280 --> 01:47:45,280
Speaker 1: Eagles are the better team.

2419
01:47:45,560 --> 01:47:47,000
Speaker 2: And if we did a draft for the top ten

2420
01:47:47,080 --> 01:47:49,560
Speaker 2: players in this game, I would say seven of the

2421
01:47:49,640 --> 01:47:51,240
Speaker 2: top ten would probably go to the Eagles.

2422
01:47:51,280 --> 01:47:53,120
Speaker 1: Because of that, I'm going with the Eagles in this world.

2423
01:47:53,680 --> 01:47:54,639
Speaker 4: I'm with you with the Eagles.

2424
01:47:54,680 --> 01:47:56,680
Speaker 3: But I think Dak Prescott and c. D Lamb have

2425
01:47:56,720 --> 01:47:58,800
Speaker 3: a lot of success in that secondary and they will

2426
01:47:58,840 --> 01:48:00,479
Speaker 3: have a lot of success today. I just think that

2427
01:48:00,560 --> 01:48:03,000
Speaker 3: the Eagles, being at home, they have a better team.

2428
01:48:03,200 --> 01:48:05,360
Speaker 3: They're going to protect their house. That's as they usually do.

2429
01:48:05,680 --> 01:48:07,640
Speaker 3: And I think that basically with the Eagles have a

2430
01:48:07,680 --> 01:48:09,720
Speaker 3: problem if they do have an Achilles heel. They got

2431
01:48:09,840 --> 01:48:12,120
Speaker 3: to get into the red zone and don't accept field goals.

2432
01:48:12,160 --> 01:48:13,960
Speaker 3: Get it to the end zone. When you're in the

2433
01:48:14,000 --> 01:48:15,200
Speaker 3: red zone, get in the end zone.

2434
01:48:15,240 --> 01:48:16,720
Speaker 5: That's what you got to That's good. Put that on

2435
01:48:16,800 --> 01:48:17,200
Speaker 5: a shirt.

2436
01:48:17,560 --> 01:48:17,960
Speaker 1: There you go.

2437
01:48:18,680 --> 01:48:21,320
Speaker 5: We need extra streams of revenue here, fellas. I'm trying

2438
01:48:21,360 --> 01:48:22,320
Speaker 5: to expand, so that.

2439
01:48:23,360 --> 01:48:25,439
Speaker 4: Goodell call your friend Roger Goodell will help you.

2440
01:48:26,479 --> 01:48:29,920
Speaker 9: My best friend Roger Goodell, because I've never said anything

2441
01:48:30,320 --> 01:48:32,920
Speaker 9: attacking the Commissioner's office on Fox worts.

2442
01:48:34,640 --> 01:48:35,200
Speaker 5: That's funny.

2443
01:48:35,520 --> 01:48:39,559
Speaker 9: Never never, never, never ever ever, no, no, just corporate chill.

2444
01:48:39,720 --> 01:48:42,320
Speaker 9: Right here, I'm sitting in a three piece suit and

2445
01:48:42,439 --> 01:48:45,400
Speaker 9: I got a bowl of cavia getting chilled right next

2446
01:48:45,439 --> 01:48:48,439
Speaker 9: to me over here. I think this is going to

2447
01:48:48,479 --> 01:48:52,479
Speaker 9: be reminiscent of the San Francisco game where the Cowboys

2448
01:48:52,520 --> 01:48:55,040
Speaker 9: get beaten down. I know the history for DAK is great.

2449
01:48:55,160 --> 01:48:58,759
Speaker 9: Seven and three, the Cowboys are the last ten against

2450
01:48:58,800 --> 01:49:01,080
Speaker 9: the Eagles, and all of the as you say, Bucky,

2451
01:49:01,160 --> 01:49:02,400
Speaker 9: the big roll up.

2452
01:49:02,360 --> 01:49:06,479
Speaker 5: Numbers this one. I'm a little, as they say.

2453
01:49:06,560 --> 01:49:10,880
Speaker 9: A scare all right, next game, Giants said, Raiders, Yeah,

2454
01:49:10,960 --> 01:49:13,720
Speaker 9: we have to talk about it. We're contractually obligated. That's

2455
01:49:13,720 --> 01:49:16,839
Speaker 9: why they put us here. We do them all. Despite

2456
01:49:16,840 --> 01:49:21,240
Speaker 9: all the turmoil, eight and O'Connell back under center, offensive

2457
01:49:21,280 --> 01:49:28,799
Speaker 9: coordinator Jettison, head coach Jettison, everybody get out, the Raiders

2458
01:49:28,840 --> 01:49:31,479
Speaker 9: are still a two point favorite at home over the

2459
01:49:31,560 --> 01:49:34,880
Speaker 9: New York Football Giants. Daniel Jones is gonna give it

2460
01:49:34,920 --> 01:49:38,880
Speaker 9: the old college try. After being sidelined with a neck injury.

2461
01:49:39,280 --> 01:49:42,760
Speaker 9: We watched one of the most woeful. Actually, no Northwestern

2462
01:49:42,840 --> 01:49:46,360
Speaker 9: in Iowa came close to matching what the Giants put

2463
01:49:46,400 --> 01:49:49,920
Speaker 9: on tape with the Jets last week. That's how bad

2464
01:49:50,360 --> 01:49:53,360
Speaker 9: that was. Thirty eight is the total. My guess is

2465
01:49:53,439 --> 01:49:56,840
Speaker 9: that actually goes down before the game actually begins. But

2466
01:49:57,000 --> 01:50:00,400
Speaker 9: here we go the new look Raiders. Antonio Pierce, I

2467
01:50:00,439 --> 01:50:03,439
Speaker 9: would say this, Andy, just keep playing the ball to

2468
01:50:03,520 --> 01:50:06,200
Speaker 9: Devonte Adams and everybody that looks loose and happy in

2469
01:50:06,240 --> 01:50:06,840
Speaker 9: the clubhouse.

2470
01:50:07,680 --> 01:50:09,360
Speaker 3: Well, I'll tell you this much. I mean, I think

2471
01:50:09,400 --> 01:50:11,200
Speaker 3: the Giants were a better team when Tyrod Taylor was

2472
01:50:11,280 --> 01:50:13,400
Speaker 3: running them. But they're not gonna happen because it would

2473
01:50:13,439 --> 01:50:15,479
Speaker 3: say that the Giants made a mistake by giving Daniel

2474
01:50:15,520 --> 01:50:16,439
Speaker 3: Jones that big contract.

2475
01:50:16,479 --> 01:50:18,960
Speaker 5: Well he's on ir now too, so he so he's

2476
01:50:19,040 --> 01:50:20,439
Speaker 5: off for a month at least, right.

2477
01:50:20,520 --> 01:50:22,840
Speaker 3: But he is the key if the Giants is successful

2478
01:50:23,120 --> 01:50:24,560
Speaker 3: and the two and six, I don't know how you

2479
01:50:24,600 --> 01:50:27,240
Speaker 3: can say they're successful, but any success they've had is

2480
01:50:27,280 --> 01:50:29,599
Speaker 3: because of their defense. That's basically what it is. If

2481
01:50:29,600 --> 01:50:32,439
Speaker 3: their defense can hold the Raiders close, which I don't

2482
01:50:32,439 --> 01:50:34,040
Speaker 3: think they can, but I think the game will be

2483
01:50:34,120 --> 01:50:36,040
Speaker 3: so much close, and I think the rad Is rally

2484
01:50:36,080 --> 01:50:37,840
Speaker 3: around their new coach today and they win.

2485
01:50:38,080 --> 01:50:39,720
Speaker 5: What a chaotis world it would have been.

2486
01:50:39,760 --> 01:50:42,759
Speaker 9: If the Giants had actually beaten the Bills, the tarad

2487
01:50:42,960 --> 01:50:44,360
Speaker 9: Taylor love would have been eaten.

2488
01:50:44,479 --> 01:50:45,840
Speaker 5: Next level there, Bucky.

2489
01:50:45,960 --> 01:50:47,559
Speaker 4: But it would have been more of a Bills losing

2490
01:50:47,640 --> 01:50:48,720
Speaker 4: it than the Giants winning it.

2491
01:50:48,920 --> 01:50:51,040
Speaker 5: Well, but you also had Darren Waller show up for

2492
01:50:51,160 --> 01:50:52,559
Speaker 5: one of his three games this year.

2493
01:50:52,880 --> 01:50:55,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's probably one of the more disappointing

2494
01:50:55,640 --> 01:50:57,719
Speaker 2: things that Darren Waller has not been a big part.

2495
01:50:57,600 --> 01:50:59,880
Speaker 1: Of it, but history repeats it. So if he had

2496
01:51:00,040 --> 01:51:01,839
Speaker 1: been available for the Raiders for the most part.

2497
01:51:01,720 --> 01:51:04,920
Speaker 9: Either exactly now on I are alongside it, Taylor, Yep.

2498
01:51:05,880 --> 01:51:08,920
Speaker 9: So difficult proposition. There a game that, uh, you know

2499
01:51:09,000 --> 01:51:12,479
Speaker 9: what's great, We get Kansas City in Miami in its

2500
01:51:12,520 --> 01:51:16,960
Speaker 9: own window, so you can preemptively wash your mouth of

2501
01:51:17,040 --> 01:51:21,640
Speaker 9: the taste of the Raiders and Giants. They're all professionals,

2502
01:51:21,680 --> 01:51:23,639
Speaker 9: and I love all two hundred and seventy two games,

2503
01:51:23,840 --> 01:51:26,240
Speaker 9: but let's face it, on the list when we rank

2504
01:51:26,320 --> 01:51:28,400
Speaker 9: them all for the year, someone's got to be last.

2505
01:51:28,680 --> 01:51:31,760
Speaker 9: Mike Carman alongside Bucky Brooks and Andy Furman here Fox

2506
01:51:31,840 --> 01:51:35,360
Speaker 9: Sports Sun or Fox Football Sunday on Fox Sports Radio. Now,

2507
01:51:35,439 --> 01:51:37,320
Speaker 9: let's turn it over to Kevin Wyre get an update.

2508
01:51:37,479 --> 01:51:39,120
Speaker 9: How what's trending in our sporting universe?

2509
01:51:40,680 --> 01:51:41,040
Speaker 3: What's up?

2510
01:51:41,080 --> 01:51:42,880
Speaker 5: Kevin Yeah?

2511
01:51:42,960 --> 01:51:46,639
Speaker 9: Full slate of NFL Action today. Ian Rappaport this morning

2512
01:51:46,680 --> 01:51:51,040
Speaker 9: with some updates for today's slate of NFL games. Rams

2513
01:51:51,200 --> 01:51:54,679
Speaker 9: quarterback Matthew Stafford he heard us some last week against

2514
01:51:54,720 --> 01:51:58,200
Speaker 9: the Cowboys. Listed as doubtful, he is not expected to

2515
01:51:58,240 --> 01:52:02,080
Speaker 9: play today against the Green Bay pass Brett Whipian expected

2516
01:52:02,120 --> 01:52:05,559
Speaker 9: to get the start today for Los Angeles. However, wide

2517
01:52:05,600 --> 01:52:07,960
Speaker 9: receiver Pooka Nakua he's been dealing with a knee injury.

2518
01:52:08,400 --> 01:52:13,000
Speaker 9: He is expected to play. Cowboys offensive tackle Tyron Smith

2519
01:52:13,000 --> 01:52:15,200
Speaker 9: he's been dealing with a neck issue. He is also

2520
01:52:15,360 --> 01:52:19,720
Speaker 9: expected to be on the field today. And everything else

2521
01:52:19,920 --> 01:52:22,320
Speaker 9: in football happened last night. In the college ranks, some

2522
01:52:22,439 --> 01:52:25,560
Speaker 9: late scores from the Pac twelve Arizona Bowl eligible for

2523
01:52:25,600 --> 01:52:29,200
Speaker 9: the first time since twenty seventeen as they beat number

2524
01:52:29,240 --> 01:52:32,360
Speaker 9: nineteen UCLA twenty seven to ten, Number sixteen Oregon State

2525
01:52:32,600 --> 01:52:36,080
Speaker 9: twenty six nineteen winners over Colorado. The buffs now just

2526
01:52:36,240 --> 01:52:40,360
Speaker 9: one in five in the PAC twelve. Back to you guys,

2527
01:52:40,520 --> 01:52:44,000
Speaker 9: Thanks so much, Kevin, appreciate you. Fox Football Sunday here

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Speaker 9: I C Mike Harmon, Andy Furman, Bucky Brooks with you

2535
01:53:07,640 --> 01:53:10,880
Speaker 9: here Fox Football Sunday. Still two more games.

2536
01:53:10,560 --> 01:53:11,320
Speaker 5: To roll through.

2537
01:53:12,000 --> 01:53:14,960
Speaker 9: One's a winner and well ones again an isolated game

2538
01:53:15,040 --> 01:53:17,280
Speaker 9: you're going to be forced to watch. We'll talk about

2539
01:53:17,280 --> 01:53:20,360
Speaker 9: those two games as we continue here on Fox Sports Radio.

2540
01:53:21,360 --> 01:53:24,800
Speaker 9: Welcome back in. It's Fox Football Sunday. Here Fox Sports Radio,

2541
01:53:24,920 --> 01:53:29,000
Speaker 9: Mike Carmon alongside broadcasting legend, my guy Andy Furman. I

2542
01:53:29,040 --> 01:53:32,680
Speaker 9: always appreciate getting mail here at Fox Sports Rade.

2543
01:53:32,720 --> 01:53:33,400
Speaker 4: It's what no, no, no.

2544
01:53:33,520 --> 01:53:37,000
Speaker 9: It's one of the great things in this world that

2545
01:53:37,160 --> 01:53:41,439
Speaker 9: the handwritten note and packages is still the thing. So

2546
01:53:41,520 --> 01:53:44,439
Speaker 9: I say it nationally. Thank you, Andy, Furman. I always

2547
01:53:44,479 --> 01:53:47,439
Speaker 9: look forward to seeing an envelope with my name on

2548
01:53:47,520 --> 01:53:49,720
Speaker 9: it in the bin. Bucky Brooks, you could write me

2549
01:53:49,760 --> 01:53:52,519
Speaker 9: notes too, especially when you go when you go back

2550
01:53:52,520 --> 01:53:53,720
Speaker 9: to London for the next game.

2551
01:53:53,960 --> 01:53:55,679
Speaker 4: I would write Bucky, but I don't have his address.

2552
01:53:56,160 --> 01:53:59,479
Speaker 9: I put them on the mailings he lets you, right

2553
01:53:59,560 --> 01:54:04,479
Speaker 9: hand written notes. Gonna yeah, when it comes up to auction, though, Bucky,

2554
01:54:04,520 --> 01:54:06,599
Speaker 9: I'm gonna bid on all of the notes he's gotten

2555
01:54:06,640 --> 01:54:07,880
Speaker 9: from the coaches through the years.

2556
01:54:08,120 --> 01:54:09,360
Speaker 4: You know what, though, I have those.

2557
01:54:09,479 --> 01:54:11,479
Speaker 3: I have all of Bobby Knight letters he's ever written

2558
01:54:11,560 --> 01:54:13,960
Speaker 3: me from Army the legend.

2559
01:54:14,840 --> 01:54:16,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, I like that.

2560
01:54:16,479 --> 01:54:19,320
Speaker 9: The first word all write ups of him said complicated.

2561
01:54:19,640 --> 01:54:21,840
Speaker 9: We don't have time to do the deep dive here

2562
01:54:21,960 --> 01:54:25,880
Speaker 9: this morning, but certainly a throwback for I think a

2563
01:54:25,920 --> 01:54:28,679
Speaker 9: lot of us in terms of coaching and watching the evolution.

2564
01:54:29,600 --> 01:54:33,080
Speaker 9: You can't question the success. We always question methods after

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01:54:33,120 --> 01:54:36,680
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2570
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Speaker 9: let's get to a big one Bill's and Bengals. I

2571
01:54:50,880 --> 01:54:53,000
Speaker 9: know you guys were chopping this up a little bit earlier.

2572
01:54:53,120 --> 01:54:57,240
Speaker 9: Cincinnati two point home favorites, one of two games on

2573
01:54:57,360 --> 01:54:59,880
Speaker 9: the slate where we actually break through that fifty point

2574
01:55:00,360 --> 01:55:03,240
Speaker 9: over on your threshold. By way of contrast, we have

2575
01:55:03,560 --> 01:55:05,160
Speaker 9: five of forty or less.

2576
01:55:05,440 --> 01:55:05,640
Speaker 11: Yay.

2577
01:55:06,720 --> 01:55:09,640
Speaker 9: But for the Bills, a lot predicated on the fact

2578
01:55:09,680 --> 01:55:13,839
Speaker 9: that Milano and White aren't there. They promote Josh Norman

2579
01:55:15,080 --> 01:55:17,480
Speaker 9: for that secondary to try through. Josh Allen was on

2580
01:55:17,560 --> 01:55:20,840
Speaker 9: the injury list for a good chunk of the week,

2581
01:55:21,480 --> 01:55:23,720
Speaker 9: Andy will start with you the Bengals. Do we have

2582
01:55:23,800 --> 01:55:25,920
Speaker 9: the pom Poms out for another home victory? Is Joe

2583
01:55:26,000 --> 01:55:28,680
Speaker 9: Burrow the only guy to ever play and get healthier

2584
01:55:28,720 --> 01:55:30,040
Speaker 9: while doing so well?

2585
01:55:30,120 --> 01:55:30,560
Speaker 5: I tell you what.

2586
01:55:30,680 --> 01:55:33,560
Speaker 3: Since he's returned, they haven't lost. Okay, And I mentioned

2587
01:55:33,560 --> 01:55:35,880
Speaker 3: it to Bucky early on. They beat Arizona Seattle in

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01:55:35,920 --> 01:55:39,080
Speaker 3: San Francisco at San Francisco. Oh yeah, last week was impressive.

2589
01:55:39,320 --> 01:55:40,920
Speaker 3: I mean it was almost a perfect game. I mean

2590
01:55:40,960 --> 01:55:42,920
Speaker 3: that one penalty call that it was a bad call

2591
01:55:43,080 --> 01:55:44,880
Speaker 3: at the end of the game. Three hundred plus you

2592
01:55:44,920 --> 01:55:47,280
Speaker 3: odys three touchdowns and it went over the forty nine ers. Okay,

2593
01:55:47,440 --> 01:55:49,280
Speaker 3: albeit the fact that a couple of forty nine ers

2594
01:55:49,280 --> 01:55:50,840
Speaker 3: were on the shelf, but that's part of the game,

2595
01:55:50,920 --> 01:55:53,520
Speaker 3: no big deal. So I think that this Bengals team

2596
01:55:53,600 --> 01:55:57,360
Speaker 3: right now is playing at a high pitch, high level,

2597
01:55:57,480 --> 01:55:59,720
Speaker 3: a lot of momentum coming up to San Francisco win,

2598
01:56:00,040 --> 01:56:02,200
Speaker 3: coming to Buffalo, and I'll tell you what the matchup

2599
01:56:02,280 --> 01:56:04,160
Speaker 3: right there was a bad matchup in the playoffs for

2600
01:56:04,240 --> 01:56:04,560
Speaker 3: the Bills.

2601
01:56:04,680 --> 01:56:06,840
Speaker 4: It'll be even a worst matchup tonight in Cincinnati.

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01:56:08,800 --> 01:56:09,000
Speaker 1: Yeah.

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01:56:09,080 --> 01:56:11,680
Speaker 2: No, this is a tougher for the Buffalo Bills. The

2604
01:56:11,720 --> 01:56:13,880
Speaker 2: only way they can win this was if Josh Allen

2605
01:56:13,920 --> 01:56:15,880
Speaker 2: plays at an MVP level. I don't see that happening.

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01:56:15,880 --> 01:56:17,400
Speaker 2: To give me the sins that Bengals.

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01:56:17,280 --> 01:56:20,880
Speaker 5: Yes, yes, there you have it. I love it.

2608
01:56:21,240 --> 01:56:23,360
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's still waiting for that number two guy to

2609
01:56:23,400 --> 01:56:26,840
Speaker 9: emerge with Diggs, right, Gabe Davis has the game of

2610
01:56:26,920 --> 01:56:29,160
Speaker 9: his life, but he gets disappeared just as quickly as

2611
01:56:29,160 --> 01:56:31,720
Speaker 9: he comes. One of the stats that I enjoyed because

2612
01:56:31,720 --> 01:56:34,160
Speaker 9: we had this on the I Watch Flex podcast this week.

2613
01:56:34,400 --> 01:56:36,760
Speaker 9: Would you believe that James Cook is a top ten

2614
01:56:37,320 --> 01:56:39,040
Speaker 9: rusher in the National Football League.

2615
01:56:40,120 --> 01:56:40,880
Speaker 5: Not by the way we.

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01:56:40,960 --> 01:56:44,160
Speaker 9: Talk about running games in the NFL, you wouldn't no

2617
01:56:44,560 --> 01:56:47,080
Speaker 9: averaging nearly four and a half yards per carry. I

2618
01:56:47,160 --> 01:56:50,120
Speaker 9: think he ranks eighth in terms of yardage, right, But

2619
01:56:50,200 --> 01:56:50,680
Speaker 9: the sad.

2620
01:56:50,600 --> 01:56:52,720
Speaker 3: News is on that Buffalo team, the second leading rusher

2621
01:56:52,800 --> 01:56:53,800
Speaker 3: on the team is Josh Allen.

2622
01:56:54,800 --> 01:56:56,880
Speaker 9: And that's the way it's gonna be, right, take the

2623
01:56:56,960 --> 01:57:01,360
Speaker 9: ball and go and make your plays. We'll take your

2624
01:57:01,360 --> 01:57:03,920
Speaker 9: big hits along the way. So certainly cast there. Top

2625
01:57:03,960 --> 01:57:06,800
Speaker 9: ten is still on. Going back to that early morning

2626
01:57:06,880 --> 01:57:11,640
Speaker 9: game in Germany, devon Ahchan, he is still top ten

2627
01:57:11,760 --> 01:57:15,640
Speaker 9: despite playing four games this year showing where rushing yardage

2628
01:57:15,720 --> 01:57:18,760
Speaker 9: goes in the National Football League. Here in twenty twenty three,

2629
01:57:18,760 --> 01:57:21,800
Speaker 9: all right, final game, because again we're contractually obligated.

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01:57:22,000 --> 01:57:23,200
Speaker 5: Chargers and Jets.

2631
01:57:23,400 --> 01:57:26,040
Speaker 9: Chargers three and a half point favorites. Last I looked

2632
01:57:26,120 --> 01:57:29,280
Speaker 9: on the road at the Jets Herbert heading up against

2633
01:57:29,320 --> 01:57:33,320
Speaker 9: Zach Wilson. I watched Justin Herbert in person last Sunday night,

2634
01:57:33,400 --> 01:57:36,680
Speaker 9: surgically carve up a bad Bears defense. But what they

2635
01:57:36,720 --> 01:57:40,160
Speaker 9: can't do, fellas, is really do much offensively. In the

2636
01:57:40,200 --> 01:57:43,960
Speaker 9: second half of games the last month, it's been pedestrian.

2637
01:57:44,000 --> 01:57:47,840
Speaker 9: Would be me being kind to what the offense has done,

2638
01:57:48,200 --> 01:57:52,760
Speaker 9: therefore putting more pressure on situational coaching and the defensive

2639
01:57:52,840 --> 01:57:57,320
Speaker 9: acumen of Brandon Staley. Yay, can Zach Wilson be the

2640
01:57:57,360 --> 01:58:00,640
Speaker 9: guy to test them on Monday Night football? Lucky Brooks,

2641
01:58:05,360 --> 01:58:06,200
Speaker 9: this is tough, man.

2642
01:58:06,760 --> 01:58:07,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with the Jets.

2643
01:58:07,720 --> 01:58:10,400
Speaker 2: And this is why, because most games are lost in

2644
01:58:10,520 --> 01:58:12,480
Speaker 2: one and I just have a believe that the charge

2645
01:58:12,480 --> 01:58:13,720
Speaker 2: will find a way to lose it more so than

2646
01:58:13,760 --> 01:58:14,640
Speaker 2: they'll find a way to win it.

2647
01:58:14,720 --> 01:58:15,480
Speaker 1: So give me the Jets.

2648
01:58:16,040 --> 01:58:17,200
Speaker 4: I'm with you, Bucket.

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01:58:17,200 --> 01:58:19,200
Speaker 3: You know, the Jets are on a three game winning

2650
01:58:19,280 --> 01:58:21,160
Speaker 3: streak offense right now.

2651
01:58:21,240 --> 01:58:23,840
Speaker 4: They got to hold up there there, but Breese Hall, he.

2652
01:58:23,960 --> 01:58:27,760
Speaker 3: Only had seventeen yards rushing behind this week. I'm gonna

2653
01:58:27,800 --> 01:58:28,600
Speaker 3: say a week offensive.

2654
01:58:28,640 --> 01:58:29,760
Speaker 5: No, you can say that it's good.

2655
01:58:30,240 --> 01:58:34,480
Speaker 3: We can also beat up last week and when they

2656
01:58:34,560 --> 01:58:36,760
Speaker 3: played Dallas, I mean it was just you know, I

2657
01:58:36,840 --> 01:58:38,480
Speaker 3: don't know, but I kind of like the Jets. I

2658
01:58:38,520 --> 01:58:40,840
Speaker 3: think they got some momentum going. Obviously, the game is

2659
01:58:40,880 --> 01:58:43,080
Speaker 3: in New York, but I will say this, Aaron Rodgers,

2660
01:58:43,120 --> 01:58:45,440
Speaker 3: I miss you. I miss you, this would have been

2661
01:58:45,880 --> 01:58:48,720
Speaker 3: a great game if he was playing. But right now

2662
01:58:48,960 --> 01:58:50,960
Speaker 3: it's one of those games that really wow.

2663
01:58:51,040 --> 01:58:53,040
Speaker 5: That's why it was on Monday Night football Andy.

2664
01:58:53,000 --> 01:58:54,880
Speaker 4: Right, right, And I wish they'd get it off.

2665
01:58:55,000 --> 01:58:55,120
Speaker 1: You know.

2666
01:58:55,240 --> 01:58:58,240
Speaker 5: It's kind of like when you put the Chiefs and

2667
01:58:58,320 --> 01:58:59,720
Speaker 5: Dolphins in Germany.

2668
01:59:00,040 --> 01:59:02,720
Speaker 3: Our games been Monday night. That should have been Monday

2669
01:59:02,800 --> 01:59:05,520
Speaker 3: night and give the charges, just let them go to Germany.

2670
01:59:08,000 --> 01:59:10,520
Speaker 9: Really, but if you had Aaron Rodgers, I mean, everybody

2671
01:59:10,600 --> 01:59:12,920
Speaker 9: wants to know. I mean, well, maybe some of the

2672
01:59:13,680 --> 01:59:16,560
Speaker 9: treatments he's gotten to get himself up and throwing a football,

2673
01:59:16,600 --> 01:59:18,600
Speaker 9: and what's going on the field is like he went

2674
01:59:18,680 --> 01:59:21,200
Speaker 9: to Germany, like all the NBA players used to do

2675
01:59:21,600 --> 01:59:22,440
Speaker 9: the work.

2676
01:59:22,800 --> 01:59:25,320
Speaker 4: They'll play before the end of the year, right, But Monty.

2677
01:59:26,680 --> 01:59:28,440
Speaker 1: I don't know he's trying to. He looks like he's

2678
01:59:28,480 --> 01:59:30,600
Speaker 1: trying to. But I still would say that would be

2679
01:59:30,840 --> 01:59:32,480
Speaker 1: miraculous if he's able to do it.

2680
01:59:32,520 --> 01:59:34,560
Speaker 2: The only thing I situated exactly prayer to is Rod

2681
01:59:34,600 --> 01:59:37,640
Speaker 2: Woodson back in the mid nineties, ninety seven, that's Super Bowl,

2682
01:59:37,760 --> 01:59:40,920
Speaker 2: the Cowboys last participating in when he came back from the.

2683
01:59:41,160 --> 01:59:43,880
Speaker 1: Stillers to do it. But if he does it and

2684
01:59:43,920 --> 01:59:45,440
Speaker 1: it gives him hope. They're just trying to keep the

2685
01:59:45,520 --> 01:59:46,800
Speaker 1: light off. Well, you know what.

2686
01:59:46,920 --> 01:59:48,680
Speaker 9: He also was a very much a look at me,

2687
01:59:48,920 --> 01:59:50,440
Speaker 9: look at me. There you go, I got a ten

2688
01:59:50,560 --> 01:59:53,160
Speaker 9: things I hate about you. Reference in at the end

2689
01:59:53,240 --> 01:59:57,000
Speaker 9: of the show. Fantastic movie, the great Larry Miller getting

2690
01:59:57,000 --> 01:59:59,320
Speaker 9: it done. But yeah, look if he plays, he can

2691
01:59:59,400 --> 02:00:01,840
Speaker 9: do Dan Marina. You reference him earlier. Remember he didn't

2692
02:00:01,840 --> 02:00:05,080
Speaker 9: move but three feet side to side. That's Andy Furman,

2693
02:00:05,440 --> 02:00:08,520
Speaker 9: Bucky Brooks. I'm Mike Harmon. We continue next with an

2694
02:00:08,560 --> 02:00:11,720
Speaker 9: additional hour of Fox Football Sunday on Fox Sports Radio.

2695
02:00:11,840 --> 02:00:15,520
Speaker 9: Creaties and welcome in Fox Football Sunday. Another beautiful hour.

2696
02:00:15,960 --> 02:00:20,640
Speaker 9: Kickoff in one half hour from Germany. Also kickoff on

2697
02:00:20,760 --> 02:00:23,480
Speaker 9: the pitch. The Premier League getting going this morning, so

2698
02:00:23,720 --> 02:00:27,920
Speaker 9: much a busy day in our sporting universe. Baseball is done,

2699
02:00:28,560 --> 02:00:30,800
Speaker 9: NBA just starting to ramp up. We've got the in

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Speaker 9: season tournament. Yes, the n season tournament. Will take a

2701
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Speaker 9: laugh at that here in a moment as I tried

2702
02:00:39,200 --> 02:00:41,720
Speaker 9: to keep my eyes from bleeding after looking at the

2703
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Speaker 9: bulls court the other night. Hey, we're broadcasting live from

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Speaker 9: Harmon weeknights here alongside Jason Smith's seven to a Pacific

2709
02:01:01,120 --> 02:01:03,320
Speaker 9: and of course every Sunday morning, getting you set for

2710
02:01:03,400 --> 02:01:06,800
Speaker 9: a full slate of NFL games, alongside my guy Bucky

2711
02:01:06,840 --> 02:01:10,080
Speaker 9: Brooks working with the Jaguars. They're on their bye week,

2712
02:01:10,480 --> 02:01:13,400
Speaker 9: NFL dot Com, NFL Network. You see him on the

2713
02:01:13,480 --> 02:01:17,520
Speaker 9: couch ATFS one, you read him on NFL dot com.

2714
02:01:18,640 --> 02:01:23,480
Speaker 9: He's an analyst, a coach, and a life source for

2715
02:01:23,640 --> 02:01:23,920
Speaker 9: us all.

2716
02:01:24,040 --> 02:01:26,800
Speaker 5: He's Bucky Brooks life source.

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Speaker 9: Nice Well, I mean to positivity, bringing the energy, bringing

2718
02:01:30,040 --> 02:01:33,520
Speaker 9: the wisdom. You know, years in the National Football League,

2719
02:01:33,520 --> 02:01:36,040
Speaker 9: all of that. We're trying to grab some of that

2720
02:01:36,160 --> 02:01:38,280
Speaker 9: information to make us a little bit smarter on our

2721
02:01:38,440 --> 02:01:40,960
Speaker 9: NFL Sundays, so we can go and say, hey, that

2722
02:01:41,000 --> 02:01:42,600
Speaker 9: guy on Fox Sports trading when you're at the bar,

2723
02:01:43,120 --> 02:01:45,000
Speaker 9: Like I see it all the time, when you when

2724
02:01:45,040 --> 02:01:47,080
Speaker 9: you go and you try to have a drink to

2725
02:01:47,160 --> 02:01:50,080
Speaker 9: unwined and you guys trying to impress his date and

2726
02:01:50,200 --> 02:01:54,120
Speaker 9: he says something factually incorrect, and you could say, Bucky

2727
02:01:54,160 --> 02:01:57,760
Speaker 9: Brooks earlier today we were on air. Wait you're on air. Yeah,

2728
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Speaker 9: see what I did there?

2729
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Speaker 1: I like it.

2730
02:02:01,160 --> 02:02:03,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, So I not only get to elevate your game,

2731
02:02:04,400 --> 02:02:06,080
Speaker 5: but I get to play some game of my own.

2732
02:02:06,920 --> 02:02:09,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I see it. A little humble break there when

2733
02:02:09,120 --> 02:02:10,480
Speaker 1: you when you lobby dead at the bar.

2734
02:02:10,640 --> 02:02:12,400
Speaker 9: Well, you know, but I but I probably you know,

2735
02:02:12,560 --> 02:02:15,640
Speaker 9: i'd lead with you, but I kind of slide slide

2736
02:02:15,680 --> 02:02:17,160
Speaker 9: in the line and then we laugh, and then the

2737
02:02:17,200 --> 02:02:21,280
Speaker 9: guy gets mad because now, oh look, if you can't

2738
02:02:21,320 --> 02:02:26,480
Speaker 9: identify which analyst is on the screen talking, there's there's

2739
02:02:26,520 --> 02:02:27,040
Speaker 9: a problem.

2740
02:02:29,080 --> 02:02:30,080
Speaker 5: And we'll just leave it at that.

2741
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Speaker 9: Bucky, this game in Germany, Like, we had a great

2742
02:02:33,560 --> 02:02:37,480
Speaker 9: spirited discussion earlier about the home games that get lost,

2743
02:02:37,560 --> 02:02:41,360
Speaker 9: and and look, we've long reconciled that in terms of

2744
02:02:41,400 --> 02:02:45,560
Speaker 9: the economics of the game and the different franchises and

2745
02:02:45,640 --> 02:02:48,200
Speaker 9: what they're trying to work with. Obviously the cons who

2746
02:02:48,480 --> 02:02:51,320
Speaker 9: we need to get on because I need the entryway

2747
02:02:51,400 --> 02:02:54,800
Speaker 9: into the wrestling universe. So you know, an introduction there

2748
02:02:54,840 --> 02:02:56,920
Speaker 9: would be great. See I put that on national radio

2749
02:02:57,120 --> 02:02:58,880
Speaker 9: just because now we have to cut and print it.

2750
02:02:59,520 --> 02:03:02,600
Speaker 9: But the idea that you know, for the cons there's

2751
02:03:02,720 --> 02:03:07,080
Speaker 9: the economics, the global expansion, the the try to do

2752
02:03:07,560 --> 02:03:10,840
Speaker 9: a lot in terms of brand building, et cetera. For

2753
02:03:10,920 --> 02:03:14,200
Speaker 9: the NFL, the only people like this has been on

2754
02:03:14,680 --> 02:03:18,080
Speaker 9: the dates for a long time. I think Smith that

2755
02:03:18,120 --> 02:03:20,040
Speaker 9: I talked about it during the week. If I were

2756
02:03:20,520 --> 02:03:23,440
Speaker 9: the organizers who take care of things in London, I'm

2757
02:03:23,480 --> 02:03:26,720
Speaker 9: probably raising my hand going, hey, hold on, we've had

2758
02:03:26,760 --> 02:03:29,560
Speaker 9: a lot of games here that people like they relegated

2759
02:03:29,640 --> 02:03:31,960
Speaker 9: them here, and I'm not just talking about, you know,

2760
02:03:32,120 --> 02:03:35,800
Speaker 9: whatever the games are with Jackville, just in general. We've

2761
02:03:35,840 --> 02:03:38,840
Speaker 9: had a lot of games that people dismiss. And this

2762
02:03:39,040 --> 02:03:41,760
Speaker 9: game goes to Germany instead of London. So I know

2763
02:03:41,800 --> 02:03:44,880
Speaker 9: there's some folks with some eyebrows raised over that. It's like,

2764
02:03:44,920 --> 02:03:48,080
Speaker 9: wait a minute, hold on, we paid our dues. But

2765
02:03:48,720 --> 02:03:51,520
Speaker 9: this one is an interesting one because for once we're

2766
02:03:51,560 --> 02:03:55,240
Speaker 9: talking not about Mahomes and the offense we do, but

2767
02:03:55,320 --> 02:03:57,880
Speaker 9: it's the secondary story to what that defense has been doing.

2768
02:04:00,160 --> 02:04:03,800
Speaker 2: The defense has been carrying them, The defense has played

2769
02:04:03,880 --> 02:04:06,280
Speaker 2: lights out, and they benefited from playing a bunch of

2770
02:04:06,360 --> 02:04:07,240
Speaker 2: young guys last year.

2771
02:04:07,240 --> 02:04:09,120
Speaker 1: You think about that rookie class where they had.

2772
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Speaker 2: Josh Williams, Brian Cook, Trent mcduffy, George Coloftis, leos Chanel.

2773
02:04:14,600 --> 02:04:17,040
Speaker 2: Like all of those guys played last year valuable minutes

2774
02:04:17,080 --> 02:04:18,760
Speaker 2: on the team that ended up winning the Super Bowl.

2775
02:04:19,080 --> 02:04:22,640
Speaker 2: When now you take that experience, they have more expertise

2776
02:04:22,680 --> 02:04:23,720
Speaker 2: in terms of what they're knowing.

2777
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Speaker 1: They're playing better.

2778
02:04:24,840 --> 02:04:27,520
Speaker 2: Chris Jones is kind of the queen on the chess board,

2779
02:04:27,640 --> 02:04:30,840
Speaker 2: moving around making things happen, and they have been able

2780
02:04:30,920 --> 02:04:35,960
Speaker 2: to really kind of make the pedestrian offense really a

2781
02:04:36,040 --> 02:04:38,240
Speaker 2: non factor. When it comes to the Kansa the Chiefs,

2782
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Speaker 2: We're so used to seeing a high five offense in

2783
02:04:40,160 --> 02:04:42,640
Speaker 2: this defense kind of playing catchup. That is different for

2784
02:04:42,760 --> 02:04:47,160
Speaker 2: us to see them playing conflimentary football, punting, not necessarily

2785
02:04:47,200 --> 02:04:49,200
Speaker 2: taking the gambles and the risk that they have taken

2786
02:04:49,280 --> 02:04:51,440
Speaker 2: in the past because their defense is playing well. But

2787
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Speaker 2: this defense gives them a chance to really go back

2788
02:04:54,040 --> 02:04:55,720
Speaker 2: to back and I'm excited to see them play against

2789
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Speaker 2: a talented, high powered Dolphins offense.

2790
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Speaker 9: All Right, one guy to talk about it is a

2791
02:05:01,080 --> 02:05:04,520
Speaker 9: third year man, but he's out. The loss of Nick Bolton.

2792
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Speaker 9: How big is that in a game like this where

2793
02:05:06,680 --> 02:05:09,520
Speaker 9: you are moving chess pieces and trying to figure out

2794
02:05:09,560 --> 02:05:12,320
Speaker 9: how to slow down your former teammate who's claiming in

2795
02:05:12,440 --> 02:05:15,600
Speaker 9: Tyreek Hill that he's watched twelve and two fifty today.

2796
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's that's crazy to tell her. Heels over

2797
02:05:19,640 --> 02:05:20,760
Speaker 1: here trying to call this shot.

2798
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Speaker 5: Well, you know, hey, you know you get no Laurel

2799
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Speaker 5: Crowns for out running a burrow.

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02:05:25,640 --> 02:05:28,200
Speaker 1: No, I mean he is here really doing the most.

2801
02:05:28,280 --> 02:05:30,680
Speaker 2: He talked about who doesn't matter who has they gonna

2802
02:05:30,680 --> 02:05:32,840
Speaker 2: get to work and all this other stuff. I can't

2803
02:05:32,880 --> 02:05:34,760
Speaker 2: wait to see this game plan this SPACs is gonna do.

2804
02:05:34,800 --> 02:05:36,880
Speaker 2: Because spact should know him, and because.

2805
02:05:36,600 --> 02:05:39,120
Speaker 1: He knows him so well, he should also have a

2806
02:05:39,160 --> 02:05:41,320
Speaker 1: good idea for what to throw at him to slow

2807
02:05:41,400 --> 02:05:41,800
Speaker 1: him down.

2808
02:05:42,280 --> 02:05:44,360
Speaker 2: This offense is different because Mike god Daniel's they do

2809
02:05:44,400 --> 02:05:46,360
Speaker 2: a lot of moving around a lot of different and

2810
02:05:46,520 --> 02:05:48,640
Speaker 2: unique motions that are kind of keeping.

2811
02:05:48,520 --> 02:05:49,680
Speaker 5: All those illegal motions.

2812
02:05:49,880 --> 02:05:53,440
Speaker 9: And everybody gets mad about the push, the tush push,

2813
02:05:53,520 --> 02:05:56,120
Speaker 9: What about the CFL comeing to Miami.

2814
02:05:56,880 --> 02:05:59,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I kind of like the escape motion

2815
02:05:59,320 --> 02:06:02,280
Speaker 2: or the the the outside motion. It basically gives Tyreek

2816
02:06:02,360 --> 02:06:03,480
Speaker 2: Hill a running start.

2817
02:06:03,920 --> 02:06:05,000
Speaker 1: It has been a huge advantage.

2818
02:06:06,000 --> 02:06:08,400
Speaker 2: Sure, yeah, they have a track scene where all those

2819
02:06:08,400 --> 02:06:10,520
Speaker 2: guys can take advantage of it. H this was test

2820
02:06:10,600 --> 02:06:12,840
Speaker 2: to Kensingy Chiefs defense in terms of the ability and

2821
02:06:12,960 --> 02:06:15,000
Speaker 2: willingness to play Manda Man covers to do a lot

2822
02:06:15,040 --> 02:06:17,160
Speaker 2: of Manda Man there Will they continue to do that

2823
02:06:17,240 --> 02:06:19,480
Speaker 2: with Tyreek Hill? Would they double him? If they double him,

2824
02:06:19,480 --> 02:06:22,880
Speaker 2: who are they willing to leave open? All of those

2825
02:06:22,960 --> 02:06:24,680
Speaker 2: things kind of comeing to themis this this is a

2826
02:06:24,760 --> 02:06:27,480
Speaker 2: great great chess chess mass on the grass.

2827
02:06:27,520 --> 02:06:28,480
Speaker 5: Well, you talk about spags.

2828
02:06:28,560 --> 02:06:30,040
Speaker 9: The other thing is you know how much do you

2829
02:06:30,240 --> 02:06:32,520
Speaker 9: do you gamble by bringing an extra guy to blitz

2830
02:06:32,600 --> 02:06:35,760
Speaker 9: to a knowing that the free release.

2831
02:06:35,560 --> 02:06:38,040
Speaker 5: Not only of Hill, but the other side.

2832
02:06:38,080 --> 02:06:42,120
Speaker 9: You got Waddle, you got some secondary guys and obviously Mostert.

2833
02:06:42,400 --> 02:06:44,560
Speaker 9: If he gets moving, he gets into the second level,

2834
02:06:44,640 --> 02:06:47,040
Speaker 9: he's a pain. And this is before a chan even

2835
02:06:47,080 --> 02:06:49,520
Speaker 9: gets ready. And have seen video of him this week,

2836
02:06:49,640 --> 02:06:53,040
Speaker 9: so that's imminent his return to the field, so that

2837
02:06:53,160 --> 02:06:56,440
Speaker 9: offense will get back and Armstead back on the field

2838
02:06:56,520 --> 02:06:58,840
Speaker 9: this week, Bucky, I mean, we were remiss to talk

2839
02:06:58,840 --> 02:07:02,120
Speaker 9: about a guy like Armstead hasn't been on the field

2840
02:07:02,160 --> 02:07:03,960
Speaker 9: and they've been able to have this level of success.

2841
02:07:05,360 --> 02:07:07,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, they've been able to do it really patchwork in

2842
02:07:08,120 --> 02:07:10,080
Speaker 2: leaky offensive line.

2843
02:07:11,160 --> 02:07:14,839
Speaker 1: They now get if they get Armstead bad, it solves

2844
02:07:14,960 --> 02:07:15,640
Speaker 1: a huge issue.

2845
02:07:15,680 --> 02:07:17,560
Speaker 2: Still does make their offensive line great, just makes it

2846
02:07:17,640 --> 02:07:19,680
Speaker 2: sure terrible to maybe adequate.

2847
02:07:19,920 --> 02:07:22,600
Speaker 9: Well, but they're not. But they're not grabbing guys off

2848
02:07:22,960 --> 02:07:25,400
Speaker 9: of the couch like the Giants had to do. And

2849
02:07:25,480 --> 02:07:29,000
Speaker 9: now Jason Peters, what is he forty one, forty two

2850
02:07:29,160 --> 02:07:31,320
Speaker 9: coming off the couch. Good for him, I mean, look

2851
02:07:31,440 --> 02:07:33,840
Speaker 9: good for him. Every extra check every year you can

2852
02:07:33,880 --> 02:07:37,800
Speaker 9: add on to that tenure, look and look. I love

2853
02:07:37,840 --> 02:07:39,480
Speaker 9: it on a whole other level. That's why I was

2854
02:07:39,480 --> 02:07:42,120
Speaker 9: still mad when Brady retired. So every guy that's passed

2855
02:07:42,200 --> 02:07:45,480
Speaker 9: forty now that I've crossed into the other deck beyond

2856
02:07:45,560 --> 02:07:48,520
Speaker 9: that makes me feel a little bit younger, Bucky.

2857
02:07:49,280 --> 02:07:54,480
Speaker 1: No, I feel that completely. These are teams.

2858
02:07:54,560 --> 02:07:57,720
Speaker 2: This is a team that you talk about not being patchwork,

2859
02:07:57,800 --> 02:08:00,280
Speaker 2: because you're right, Jason Peters coming off the couch at

2860
02:08:00,320 --> 02:08:03,080
Speaker 2: forty forty one, the Seahawks having to take their time

2861
02:08:03,120 --> 02:08:04,480
Speaker 2: say yeah, we got to work him in the shape

2862
02:08:04,480 --> 02:08:06,480
Speaker 2: so he could lose fifteen pounds. It's a lot of

2863
02:08:06,600 --> 02:08:10,240
Speaker 2: fifteen pounds since he came back. Yeah, it's it's better

2864
02:08:10,280 --> 02:08:13,280
Speaker 2: than the alternative. For the Miami Dolphins, they get armed

2865
02:08:13,840 --> 02:08:17,760
Speaker 2: arm set back. He solidifies their tackle situation. They should

2866
02:08:17,760 --> 02:08:19,720
Speaker 2: be able to run the ball better. Even though this

2867
02:08:19,880 --> 02:08:22,560
Speaker 2: is funny because this is a team that originally they

2868
02:08:22,560 --> 02:08:24,720
Speaker 2: didn't want to necessarily run it. They were an RPO

2869
02:08:24,800 --> 02:08:27,400
Speaker 2: based system, but a lot of those options were going

2870
02:08:27,440 --> 02:08:30,320
Speaker 2: to the passing part of the equation. Now they're able

2871
02:08:30,360 --> 02:08:34,200
Speaker 2: to run the football. Chang gave them a different mix.

2872
02:08:34,400 --> 02:08:36,960
Speaker 2: H waitman, I think he changed the way he wanted

2873
02:08:37,000 --> 02:08:37,640
Speaker 2: that pronounce, right.

2874
02:08:37,720 --> 02:08:38,920
Speaker 5: It went from being a chan.

2875
02:08:39,720 --> 02:08:42,280
Speaker 9: Yeah, it was a change a chance, kind of like

2876
02:08:42,400 --> 02:08:45,280
Speaker 9: Tard Taylor. I wasn't going to be you know, mad

2877
02:08:45,560 --> 02:08:48,360
Speaker 9: mad at at everybody this week. But you know he

2878
02:08:48,480 --> 02:08:50,760
Speaker 9: was another guy that raised his hand after like a

2879
02:08:50,880 --> 02:08:56,080
Speaker 9: decade in the league. It's actually tarad like for a

2880
02:08:56,480 --> 02:08:59,920
Speaker 9: chan formerly a chain. It took him a couple of games.

2881
02:09:00,080 --> 02:09:01,400
Speaker 9: You just raise his hand and go, I'd like to

2882
02:09:01,440 --> 02:09:03,320
Speaker 9: pronounce it this way and stay although the other one,

2883
02:09:03,440 --> 02:09:05,880
Speaker 9: I mean, there's so much more branding with a chain.

2884
02:09:06,040 --> 02:09:08,480
Speaker 1: I mean, I know, but right, I don't know.

2885
02:09:08,600 --> 02:09:10,120
Speaker 5: I guess here's a picture.

2886
02:09:09,800 --> 02:09:13,080
Speaker 9: Of me with the chain workout, drag and stuff. There's

2887
02:09:13,120 --> 02:09:14,720
Speaker 9: so much you could do with that. And now I'm

2888
02:09:15,200 --> 02:09:18,600
Speaker 9: howking you know, the supplements and everything else with my

2889
02:09:18,800 --> 02:09:19,760
Speaker 9: chain workout.

2890
02:09:20,480 --> 02:09:22,920
Speaker 2: I know, so I guess this is the perfect time

2891
02:09:22,960 --> 02:09:25,240
Speaker 2: for me to tell you, as my my radio partner,

2892
02:09:25,560 --> 02:09:27,000
Speaker 2: it's not Bucky, it's Bucket.

2893
02:09:27,840 --> 02:09:30,320
Speaker 1: Should make sure I'm all for it. There you go,

2894
02:09:31,680 --> 02:09:35,480
Speaker 1: make sure you just make since we're just changing the emphasis.

2895
02:09:35,640 --> 02:09:36,800
Speaker 1: I like that those things.

2896
02:09:36,640 --> 02:09:38,480
Speaker 5: Maybe em fastest on the slable.

2897
02:09:38,680 --> 02:09:39,080
Speaker 3: I like that.

2898
02:09:39,280 --> 02:09:43,000
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe maybe I should just inform you and everybody else,

2899
02:09:43,080 --> 02:09:44,960
Speaker 2: like yeah, like it's you don't know, but there's an

2900
02:09:45,000 --> 02:09:47,160
Speaker 2: A in there somewhere that doesn't appear in the name,

2901
02:09:47,240 --> 02:09:49,680
Speaker 2: but like this is one of those things like chan

2902
02:09:50,440 --> 02:09:52,760
Speaker 2: with I don't know, like an E on the end

2903
02:09:52,880 --> 02:09:53,360
Speaker 2: is silent.

2904
02:09:53,480 --> 02:09:58,040
Speaker 9: Well, evidently when I was born there was an inordinate

2905
02:09:58,280 --> 02:10:02,200
Speaker 9: number of male babies born in a short period at

2906
02:10:02,240 --> 02:10:04,720
Speaker 9: the hospital in which I was born, which meant they

2907
02:10:04,760 --> 02:10:06,880
Speaker 9: had no more blue stuff back when they did, you know,

2908
02:10:07,000 --> 02:10:08,280
Speaker 9: the blue versus pink.

2909
02:10:09,160 --> 02:10:10,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, which meant I was in pink.

2910
02:10:11,000 --> 02:10:16,520
Speaker 9: As my mom was awakened from the induced nap after delivery.

2911
02:10:17,280 --> 02:10:19,320
Speaker 5: I got a big head. That was a lot of work.

2912
02:10:20,240 --> 02:10:23,040
Speaker 5: And you looked, went Michelle.

2913
02:10:23,920 --> 02:10:26,720
Speaker 9: So for a while I was almost a Frenchman until

2914
02:10:26,760 --> 02:10:29,400
Speaker 9: they got her awake again and she just went, oh, Michael,

2915
02:10:29,440 --> 02:10:30,480
Speaker 9: and then fell asleep again.

2916
02:10:31,280 --> 02:10:32,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, very creative.

2917
02:10:33,000 --> 02:10:34,440
Speaker 1: Ye that's nice, that's nice.

2918
02:10:34,560 --> 02:10:35,920
Speaker 5: But yeah, so that's it. That's it.

2919
02:10:36,200 --> 02:10:41,080
Speaker 9: So I'll be a Frenchman named Michelle, Michelle Harmon and Bucket.

2920
02:10:41,000 --> 02:10:42,280
Speaker 5: Brooks here with you live.

2921
02:10:42,560 --> 02:10:45,240
Speaker 9: See, we had a little international flavor with our Germany

2922
02:10:45,360 --> 02:10:48,760
Speaker 9: game that we're celebrating in fifteen minutes here on Fox

2923
02:10:48,880 --> 02:10:49,360
Speaker 9: Port Traders.

2924
02:10:49,360 --> 02:10:51,400
Speaker 5: See what we did there. We brought it all full circle.

2925
02:10:51,560 --> 02:10:53,040
Speaker 9: But let's go back to the other team, right with

2926
02:10:53,160 --> 02:10:56,240
Speaker 9: Jason Peters mentioned the Seattle Seahawks and what they've been

2927
02:10:56,280 --> 02:11:00,920
Speaker 9: trying to do, the frustrations from DK Metcalf. I mean,

2928
02:11:01,000 --> 02:11:02,920
Speaker 9: we've talked about a lot of wide receivers and we

2929
02:11:03,320 --> 02:11:08,520
Speaker 9: sometimes do the quick nod to Diva and those kind

2930
02:11:08,560 --> 02:11:11,920
Speaker 9: of qualifiers. It's got to be difficult as you bring

2931
02:11:12,040 --> 02:11:14,320
Speaker 9: you bring in Jackson Smith and Jig but still trying

2932
02:11:14,360 --> 02:11:17,760
Speaker 9: to find his way as a rookie. You've got Tyler Lockett,

2933
02:11:17,760 --> 02:11:21,120
Speaker 9: you've got DK metcalf expectation that you're winging and around,

2934
02:11:21,560 --> 02:11:23,800
Speaker 9: but it really all still starts an end with Kenneth

2935
02:11:23,840 --> 02:11:27,080
Speaker 9: Walker the third. Now Zach Charboney getting back in, trying

2936
02:11:27,120 --> 02:11:29,720
Speaker 9: to slow things down because Gino had that great year

2937
02:11:29,840 --> 02:11:32,480
Speaker 9: last year and numbers are still pretty good here in

2938
02:11:32,560 --> 02:11:35,880
Speaker 9: twenty twenty three. But whenever you can get the thirty

2939
02:11:35,960 --> 02:11:38,840
Speaker 9: five and forty runs Bucky, like we were talking about

2940
02:11:38,880 --> 02:11:41,160
Speaker 9: with USC a little bit last hour, and some of

2941
02:11:41,240 --> 02:11:44,960
Speaker 9: these other teams, maybe Colorado, that experiment to go to

2942
02:11:45,040 --> 02:11:48,440
Speaker 9: patch Shermer exposed once again. You know, if you actually

2943
02:11:48,520 --> 02:11:51,840
Speaker 9: run the ball, Shador Sanders isn't getting killed behind a

2944
02:11:51,960 --> 02:11:55,680
Speaker 9: patchwork offensive line. But same thing in Seattle where even

2945
02:11:55,680 --> 02:11:57,960
Speaker 9: if they're mixing and matching on the offensive line, those

2946
02:11:58,040 --> 02:11:59,120
Speaker 9: running backs are special.

2947
02:12:00,200 --> 02:12:01,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, those running backs are special.

2948
02:12:02,120 --> 02:12:04,880
Speaker 2: And in Seattle, when you have Zach Sharmon a Kenneth

2949
02:12:04,880 --> 02:12:08,840
Speaker 2: Walker junior, you give those ball those guys thirty to

2950
02:12:09,000 --> 02:12:12,040
Speaker 2: thirty five attempts, good things happen for the Seattle Seahawks.

2951
02:12:12,080 --> 02:12:14,520
Speaker 2: Pete Carroll certainly understands that he's done it for years.

2952
02:12:15,160 --> 02:12:17,640
Speaker 2: When it comes to when they're playing at their best,

2953
02:12:17,800 --> 02:12:20,600
Speaker 2: it's always when the running game and the defense are

2954
02:12:20,680 --> 02:12:23,880
Speaker 2: working hand in hand. It's funny because you brought up

2955
02:12:23,880 --> 02:12:26,040
Speaker 2: those stats early time about James Cook being one of

2956
02:12:26,040 --> 02:12:27,879
Speaker 2: the top rushers, and I'm like, really.

2957
02:12:27,880 --> 02:12:31,200
Speaker 9: Yeah, no, it's amazing, it's absolutely amazing. If you go

2958
02:12:31,360 --> 02:12:33,840
Speaker 9: down the list and I'll bring it back up because

2959
02:12:33,840 --> 02:12:35,520
Speaker 9: there's a couple other names in the list, I just

2960
02:12:35,600 --> 02:12:37,720
Speaker 9: want to, you know, just give it a little more,

2961
02:12:39,080 --> 02:12:40,600
Speaker 9: I don't know, flush it out a little bit more.

2962
02:12:40,720 --> 02:12:45,640
Speaker 9: Zach Moss is third, right, and now you've got Jonathan

2963
02:12:45,680 --> 02:12:48,920
Speaker 9: Taylor back and in full effect, you've got both Raheem

2964
02:12:49,000 --> 02:12:52,800
Speaker 9: Mostert and ah chan b John Robinson. Even with the

2965
02:12:53,720 --> 02:12:57,600
Speaker 9: game that he was sick hurt, they forgot he existed

2966
02:12:57,640 --> 02:13:00,280
Speaker 9: on the sideline a couple of weeks ago. Whenever he's

2967
02:13:00,320 --> 02:13:03,840
Speaker 9: still ninth. Like, that's just showing you how different the

2968
02:13:04,040 --> 02:13:07,840
Speaker 9: NFL is this year. Obviously McCaffrey and Henry up atop,

2969
02:13:08,200 --> 02:13:10,440
Speaker 9: Travis etn who you're well familiar with.

2970
02:13:10,880 --> 02:13:13,720
Speaker 5: Walker comes in at seventh, and then James Cook his eighth.

2971
02:13:16,480 --> 02:13:20,720
Speaker 1: Yeah that's amazing. I mean it's really amazing that he

2972
02:13:20,840 --> 02:13:21,440
Speaker 1: is in that mix.

2973
02:13:21,520 --> 02:13:25,320
Speaker 2: But it tells you how teams are not really the

2974
02:13:25,440 --> 02:13:27,240
Speaker 2: de emphasis on the running game right now.

2975
02:13:27,720 --> 02:13:30,760
Speaker 1: But here's what happens, Harmon, we had daylight savings time.

2976
02:13:30,920 --> 02:13:35,680
Speaker 2: We fail back today, and so we now officially at

2977
02:13:35,720 --> 02:13:37,840
Speaker 2: that point where you know the leads are changing. We

2978
02:13:37,920 --> 02:13:40,800
Speaker 2: get into the cold part of the year, we'll see

2979
02:13:40,840 --> 02:13:44,200
Speaker 2: more of the running game pop up. It's all cute,

2980
02:13:44,240 --> 02:13:47,040
Speaker 2: it's all fun and games September and October. When we

2981
02:13:47,120 --> 02:13:49,240
Speaker 2: get into the month of November, you start getting to

2982
02:13:49,360 --> 02:13:52,000
Speaker 2: winning time, and winning time normally equates to a little

2983
02:13:52,040 --> 02:13:53,400
Speaker 2: more emphasis.

2984
02:13:53,000 --> 02:13:53,680
Speaker 1: On the running game.

2985
02:13:54,480 --> 02:13:58,720
Speaker 5: Lean back, lean back. Yeah, that's it. That's where we're going, Buck.

2986
02:13:58,680 --> 02:14:04,680
Speaker 9: Brooks, Joe Harmon here, Fox Sports Radios, Fox Football Sunday

2987
02:14:05,000 --> 02:14:07,960
Speaker 9: coming up next. We do a lot of gripes about

2988
02:14:08,080 --> 02:14:12,720
Speaker 9: the world of officiating, and I think deservedly so. The

2989
02:14:13,000 --> 02:14:17,680
Speaker 9: magic number for this week is thirty one, and there's

2990
02:14:17,760 --> 02:14:20,040
Speaker 9: a lot of dollars attached to it. We'll talk about

2991
02:14:20,080 --> 02:14:24,120
Speaker 9: that next. The epidemic in the NFL that I want

2992
02:14:24,160 --> 02:14:26,080
Speaker 9: to throw a flag on this. We'll tell you what

2993
02:14:26,160 --> 02:14:28,320
Speaker 9: it's all about next year on Fox. Welcome back in.

2994
02:14:28,440 --> 02:14:33,080
Speaker 9: It's Fox Football Sunday here. Fox Sports Radio. Countdown Clock

2995
02:14:33,200 --> 02:14:35,080
Speaker 9: is on. If you need to make some lineup changes,

2996
02:14:35,120 --> 02:14:38,280
Speaker 9: make some picks for the NFL game heading up in

2997
02:14:38,680 --> 02:14:40,760
Speaker 9: Germany in just a couple of minutes, so make sure

2998
02:14:40,800 --> 02:14:44,920
Speaker 9: you get those selections in Bucky, I didn't hear on record,

2999
02:14:45,160 --> 02:14:46,080
Speaker 9: did you take the Chiefs?

3000
02:14:46,160 --> 02:14:48,960
Speaker 5: You take the Dolphins? The Chiefs a two and a

3001
02:14:49,040 --> 02:14:50,040
Speaker 5: half point favorite.

3002
02:14:50,800 --> 02:14:52,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got a chief The Chiefs have a better defense,

3003
02:14:52,840 --> 02:14:54,640
Speaker 2: and it's gonna come down to being able to get stopped.

3004
02:14:54,640 --> 02:14:55,400
Speaker 1: So give me the Chiefs.

3005
02:14:56,080 --> 02:14:58,440
Speaker 5: I am on board with you as well.

3006
02:14:59,240 --> 02:15:01,880
Speaker 9: Just curious to see again going back to Spags and

3007
02:15:02,000 --> 02:15:05,040
Speaker 9: that defense and how they approach it this time out.

3008
02:15:05,680 --> 02:15:08,040
Speaker 9: So much going on in the National Football League. We'll

3009
02:15:08,040 --> 02:15:10,600
Speaker 9: get to some more of the on field and even

3010
02:15:10,680 --> 02:15:14,440
Speaker 9: the clubhouse locker room scenarios, because what's going on in

3011
02:15:14,560 --> 02:15:18,760
Speaker 9: Las Vegas some next level stuff. We have the all

3012
02:15:18,880 --> 02:15:21,200
Speaker 9: hands meeting that you and I talked about a little

3013
02:15:21,240 --> 02:15:24,280
Speaker 9: bit last week in terms of all right, rallying around

3014
02:15:24,480 --> 02:15:27,440
Speaker 9: and everybody getting to have their say, and then you

3015
02:15:27,560 --> 02:15:30,920
Speaker 9: go out and let's face it, you get dominated by

3016
02:15:30,960 --> 02:15:33,600
Speaker 9: the Lions. Even if on the scoreboard maybe it didn't

3017
02:15:33,640 --> 02:15:35,800
Speaker 9: look as bad as it could have been, right because

3018
02:15:35,840 --> 02:15:38,960
Speaker 9: you did after them for field goals, so you had

3019
02:15:39,040 --> 02:15:42,400
Speaker 9: that rallying cry, I guess to a degree. But after

3020
02:15:42,560 --> 02:15:44,960
Speaker 9: losing to the Bears in the fashion and getting bullied

3021
02:15:45,040 --> 02:15:48,880
Speaker 9: as they did and then losing to the Lions the

3022
02:15:49,480 --> 02:15:54,160
Speaker 9: earlier in the season. Mantras of Mark Davis about smartening

3023
02:15:54,200 --> 02:15:57,520
Speaker 9: it up went out the window, and they decided to

3024
02:15:57,640 --> 02:16:03,480
Speaker 9: make the personnel decis oc coach, et cetera. But in

3025
02:16:03,640 --> 02:16:07,360
Speaker 9: doing so, they also ignored the trade deadline when it

3026
02:16:07,440 --> 02:16:11,120
Speaker 9: seemed like for a couple of those veteran players might

3027
02:16:11,240 --> 02:16:15,280
Speaker 9: have been as an organization organizational reset, maybe the way

3028
02:16:15,360 --> 02:16:16,320
Speaker 9: to go, Bucky.

3029
02:16:17,880 --> 02:16:19,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the way to go if you believe that

3030
02:16:19,480 --> 02:16:20,839
Speaker 1: you need to rebuild.

3031
02:16:21,240 --> 02:16:23,760
Speaker 2: But Mark Davis obviously didn't see this team as a

3032
02:16:23,920 --> 02:16:27,480
Speaker 2: team that was a rebuilt team. He feels like this

3033
02:16:27,600 --> 02:16:31,360
Speaker 2: team can compete, that they have players worthy of being

3034
02:16:31,400 --> 02:16:33,400
Speaker 2: playoff caliber, and so he wanted to see what it

3035
02:16:33,480 --> 02:16:36,560
Speaker 2: looked like taking it to the end. The conversations also

3036
02:16:36,800 --> 02:16:39,800
Speaker 2: were probably or the decision was probably influenced by the

3037
02:16:39,840 --> 02:16:43,880
Speaker 2: conversations he had with Antonio Piers and Champ Kelly, respectively,

3038
02:16:44,280 --> 02:16:44,959
Speaker 2: the guys.

3039
02:16:44,760 --> 02:16:47,560
Speaker 1: That he named interim head coach and interim general manager.

3040
02:16:48,080 --> 02:16:49,039
Speaker 1: He listened to them.

3041
02:16:49,480 --> 02:16:52,840
Speaker 2: They obviously want to try and get the main gig,

3042
02:16:53,320 --> 02:16:55,360
Speaker 2: and so it's in their best interest that no, no, no,

3043
02:16:55,920 --> 02:16:58,360
Speaker 2: we can win with these guys, we're figured out, and

3044
02:16:59,560 --> 02:17:01,960
Speaker 2: I can't say that that is a bad way to

3045
02:17:02,000 --> 02:17:04,680
Speaker 2: go if you're either one of those guys. But the

3046
02:17:04,760 --> 02:17:07,040
Speaker 2: thing that has to change for the Raiders, but the

3047
02:17:07,760 --> 02:17:10,440
Speaker 2: way they're presently constructed, they got to better play from

3048
02:17:10,480 --> 02:17:14,160
Speaker 2: the quarterback. Sure, Jimmy Garoppolo was an absolute disaster, but

3049
02:17:14,879 --> 02:17:17,400
Speaker 2: he was only a disaster because the Raiders thought he

3050
02:17:17,480 --> 02:17:19,760
Speaker 2: was gonna be something that he hasn't been. Meaning they

3051
02:17:19,800 --> 02:17:22,400
Speaker 2: thought he's gonna be someone who would be healthy, available

3052
02:17:22,680 --> 02:17:25,720
Speaker 2: and efficient. He hadn't been any of those things during

3053
02:17:25,760 --> 02:17:27,560
Speaker 2: his time with the San Francisco forty nine ers.

3054
02:17:27,640 --> 02:17:27,800
Speaker 1: Well.

3055
02:17:27,800 --> 02:17:29,680
Speaker 9: The other part too it though, Bucky, is you know,

3056
02:17:29,840 --> 02:17:32,720
Speaker 9: from a personnel standpoint, you brought back the leading rusher

3057
02:17:32,800 --> 02:17:36,280
Speaker 9: in the game and the run game has been grossly

3058
02:17:36,360 --> 02:17:39,040
Speaker 9: inefficient for the vast majority of the season. Right, it

3059
02:17:39,080 --> 02:17:41,440
Speaker 9: works hand in hand because in San Francisco, what did

3060
02:17:41,440 --> 02:17:46,160
Speaker 9: he always have even before McCaffrey got there, always running

3061
02:17:46,160 --> 02:17:48,039
Speaker 9: in Yeah, he always had some balance.

3062
02:17:49,560 --> 02:17:51,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, you always had a running game. Into thing that

3063
02:17:52,320 --> 02:17:53,080
Speaker 1: this struggled. Man.

3064
02:17:53,520 --> 02:17:56,800
Speaker 2: They're not good at the offensive line. The offensive line

3065
02:17:56,840 --> 02:17:59,160
Speaker 2: issues have been a problem. No matter who they throw

3066
02:17:59,240 --> 02:18:02,120
Speaker 2: out there, they have not been able to move people

3067
02:18:02,160 --> 02:18:03,800
Speaker 2: at the point of attack, and so when the running

3068
02:18:03,840 --> 02:18:05,879
Speaker 2: game can't go, You're right, Jimmy Garoppolo can't throw off

3069
02:18:05,920 --> 02:18:06,320
Speaker 2: play action.

3070
02:18:06,840 --> 02:18:12,280
Speaker 1: But the death nail came Harmon and you saw this

3071
02:18:12,400 --> 02:18:13,920
Speaker 1: because your team benefited from me.

3072
02:18:13,959 --> 02:18:16,880
Speaker 5: Oh, it was completely you had it, you know.

3073
02:18:17,000 --> 02:18:19,119
Speaker 1: But you had a decision at quarterback.

3074
02:18:19,200 --> 02:18:22,040
Speaker 2: Jimmy Garoppolo is not playing, and you had a choice

3075
02:18:22,040 --> 02:18:24,760
Speaker 2: between a and O'Connell, the rookie, the plucky rookie who

3076
02:18:24,800 --> 02:18:28,760
Speaker 2: showed up in preseason had people excited, and Brian Horrier,

3077
02:18:29,040 --> 02:18:32,119
Speaker 2: who was as excited as beige paint, and you opted

3078
02:18:32,160 --> 02:18:37,520
Speaker 2: to play Brian Horrier. And Brian Horier was terrible. He

3079
02:18:37,640 --> 02:18:40,120
Speaker 2: turned the ball over. He didn't give you a chance

3080
02:18:40,200 --> 02:18:42,680
Speaker 2: to win. There was no excitement.

3081
02:18:43,840 --> 02:18:44,280
Speaker 1: That did it?

3082
02:18:44,600 --> 02:18:45,200
Speaker 5: Can I say this?

3083
02:18:46,000 --> 02:18:49,560
Speaker 9: The buckie was that they came out and they played

3084
02:18:49,680 --> 02:18:54,440
Speaker 9: like they disagreed with yes, because they got bullied by

3085
02:18:54,520 --> 02:18:56,879
Speaker 9: a bad Bears team that hasn't been able to run.

3086
02:18:57,040 --> 02:18:59,720
Speaker 9: Mark is On is our technical producer. He's just not

3087
02:19:00,280 --> 02:19:03,160
Speaker 9: He's like, yeah, a team that hadn't run very well,

3088
02:19:03,600 --> 02:19:06,040
Speaker 9: hadn't shown much in the way of teeth. Sorry for

3089
02:19:06,120 --> 02:19:12,880
Speaker 9: the Bears. Low hanging fruit analogy and reference. But they

3090
02:19:13,040 --> 02:19:16,160
Speaker 9: just absolutely got bullied from pillar to post. So that

3091
02:19:16,400 --> 02:19:20,560
Speaker 9: decision was just disastrous on every level. And you made

3092
02:19:20,600 --> 02:19:23,080
Speaker 9: Tyson pagent at his two point.

3093
02:19:22,959 --> 02:19:24,800
Speaker 5: Five average yard per depth.

3094
02:19:25,440 --> 02:19:27,560
Speaker 9: You were three and three coming into that game, Bucky

3095
02:19:28,800 --> 02:19:30,600
Speaker 9: thinking you're gonna go and beat the Bears.

3096
02:19:31,440 --> 02:19:33,800
Speaker 2: Bad decisions because you already I mean you're already written

3097
02:19:33,840 --> 02:19:36,080
Speaker 2: it down in pencilon you think, hey, they're gonna win this,

3098
02:19:36,240 --> 02:19:37,680
Speaker 2: We're gonna win this. We go to four and three,

3099
02:19:37,720 --> 02:19:39,840
Speaker 2: you have a chance to come back, go five and three.

3100
02:19:39,920 --> 02:19:41,080
Speaker 2: We can make a little run here.

3101
02:19:42,840 --> 02:19:46,039
Speaker 1: And they blew that game. So then their tails took

3102
02:19:46,080 --> 02:19:48,400
Speaker 1: between their legs when they go to Detroit. Now they

3103
02:19:48,480 --> 02:19:48,840
Speaker 1: come back.

3104
02:19:48,959 --> 02:19:50,920
Speaker 2: This could have been or should have been part of

3105
02:19:50,959 --> 02:19:53,440
Speaker 2: a three game run where they went three and zero

3106
02:19:54,040 --> 02:19:57,000
Speaker 2: or two and three, and to mess up on the

3107
02:19:57,080 --> 02:19:59,920
Speaker 2: Bears thing, it was hard for everyone to get past it.

3108
02:20:00,040 --> 02:20:02,520
Speaker 1: Then you heard the team meetings and all of the

3109
02:20:02,879 --> 02:20:04,320
Speaker 1: veterans that we talked on the board.

3110
02:20:05,120 --> 02:20:08,760
Speaker 2: And I'll say this because I believe Patriots coaches their

3111
02:20:08,800 --> 02:20:11,680
Speaker 2: fatal flaw has been their personality and their lack of

3112
02:20:11,879 --> 02:20:15,920
Speaker 2: awareness when it comes to reading the room. When Josh

3113
02:20:16,000 --> 02:20:18,560
Speaker 2: McDaniels took over. He did exactly what Matt Patricia did.

3114
02:20:19,000 --> 02:20:22,600
Speaker 2: He failed to acknowledge the previous success of his predecessor.

3115
02:20:23,240 --> 02:20:26,440
Speaker 2: Matt Patricia kind of dismissed whatever Jim Calwell had accomplished

3116
02:20:26,480 --> 02:20:29,320
Speaker 2: in Detroit. The team had a winning record. When Caldwell

3117
02:20:29,480 --> 02:20:32,240
Speaker 2: was dismissed, Matt Patricia came in talking about how terrible

3118
02:20:32,280 --> 02:20:34,400
Speaker 2: it was. We got to change the program, YadA, YadA, YadA.

3119
02:20:34,600 --> 02:20:39,120
Speaker 2: The veterans are looking around like, whoa, we won some games.

3120
02:20:39,640 --> 02:20:41,400
Speaker 2: We haven't won a super Bowl like you have, but

3121
02:20:41,520 --> 02:20:42,440
Speaker 2: we won some games.

3122
02:20:43,160 --> 02:20:45,359
Speaker 1: Why are we changing all of the things.

3123
02:20:45,160 --> 02:20:49,120
Speaker 2: That we're doing. That's what Patricia did, Josh McDaniels. They go,

3124
02:20:49,560 --> 02:20:51,600
Speaker 2: they lose to Cincinnati Bingers, but it's a ten and

3125
02:20:51,680 --> 02:20:52,080
Speaker 2: sevent team.

3126
02:20:52,120 --> 02:20:54,240
Speaker 1: He inherits, Oh, we got to tear it down. We

3127
02:20:54,280 --> 02:20:55,520
Speaker 1: gotta do this. Got to teach you guys how to win.

3128
02:20:55,600 --> 02:20:57,680
Speaker 1: Y'all don't know how to win. YadA ya dada. The

3129
02:20:57,800 --> 02:21:00,640
Speaker 1: results don't match up to what he's saying. So now

3130
02:21:00,680 --> 02:21:02,800
Speaker 1: you have a bunch of guys with raised eyebrows and

3131
02:21:03,360 --> 02:21:06,080
Speaker 1: quyzical looks looking around like why are we doing this stuff?

3132
02:21:06,120 --> 02:21:06,920
Speaker 1: And we're not winning.

3133
02:21:07,480 --> 02:21:09,440
Speaker 2: You then to make the decision get rid of Derrek Carr,

3134
02:21:09,920 --> 02:21:11,920
Speaker 2: even though we on the outside, I don't know how

3135
02:21:11,959 --> 02:21:12,959
Speaker 2: good he is, but he might.

3136
02:21:12,879 --> 02:21:15,039
Speaker 1: Have been beloved in the locker room, so you get

3137
02:21:15,160 --> 02:21:15,640
Speaker 1: rid of him.

3138
02:21:16,000 --> 02:21:19,840
Speaker 2: DeVante Adam's best friend to bring in Jimmy Garoppolo and

3139
02:21:19,879 --> 02:21:20,600
Speaker 2: they're looking.

3140
02:21:20,400 --> 02:21:23,199
Speaker 1: Around like, hey man, this is a downgrade.

3141
02:21:24,000 --> 02:21:27,400
Speaker 2: All of those things impacted the way the locker room

3142
02:21:27,440 --> 02:21:30,440
Speaker 2: felt about Josh McDaniels, and in the business that is

3143
02:21:30,480 --> 02:21:33,920
Speaker 2: all about the results, the results didn't equate to the

3144
02:21:33,959 --> 02:21:35,800
Speaker 2: stuff that he did, so he's not going to get

3145
02:21:35,879 --> 02:21:37,920
Speaker 2: more time because everyone's like, what are you doing?

3146
02:21:38,280 --> 02:21:39,560
Speaker 1: And they continue to bear it out.

3147
02:21:39,920 --> 02:21:42,160
Speaker 9: So up to eighty five million dollars still on the

3148
02:21:42,200 --> 02:21:47,240
Speaker 9: books between McDaniels and John Gruden. Whatever you believe in

3149
02:21:47,400 --> 02:21:49,800
Speaker 9: that contract. I never believed the ten for one hundred,

3150
02:21:49,840 --> 02:21:54,080
Speaker 9: but that's just me when we go through the process, though, Bucky.

3151
02:21:54,160 --> 02:21:57,480
Speaker 9: The other thing, McDaniels clearly didn't endear himself on the

3152
02:21:57,520 --> 02:22:00,720
Speaker 9: next level even during the media available ahead of that

3153
02:22:00,840 --> 02:22:04,400
Speaker 9: Beyors game, because he basically dismissed Aidan O'Connell where he

3154
02:22:04,560 --> 02:22:08,760
Speaker 9: was in the process by saying, this ain't the preseason, right,

3155
02:22:09,160 --> 02:22:12,320
Speaker 9: So you add that to so.

3156
02:22:13,200 --> 02:22:17,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you're so firmly behind h he ain't ready yet.

3157
02:22:17,240 --> 02:22:20,200
Speaker 2: I got my guy, Brian Hoy and Brian Horry looked

3158
02:22:20,240 --> 02:22:21,920
Speaker 2: like he was in the preseason.

3159
02:22:22,000 --> 02:22:24,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know ready.

3160
02:22:24,320 --> 02:22:26,360
Speaker 9: Well, but every one of these guys though, and that

3161
02:22:26,520 --> 02:22:29,360
Speaker 9: they've gone on and obviously a lot of thought pieces,

3162
02:22:29,840 --> 02:22:32,760
Speaker 9: deep deep dives in ju d Belichick tree. Here's the

3163
02:22:32,840 --> 02:22:35,640
Speaker 9: problem every guy, I can put it down in a

3164
02:22:35,720 --> 02:22:39,240
Speaker 9: tweet maybe hundred and eighty two hundred eighty characters.

3165
02:22:39,800 --> 02:22:43,400
Speaker 5: You ain't Belichick. You get a small sliver of the success.

3166
02:22:43,959 --> 02:22:46,400
Speaker 5: You can't go just try to beat him because you

3167
02:22:46,480 --> 02:22:46,920
Speaker 5: ain't him.

3168
02:22:48,120 --> 02:22:51,920
Speaker 2: No, it is that, and Mike is not only you're

3169
02:22:51,959 --> 02:22:55,640
Speaker 2: not him, you're not him and you can't be so dismissive.

3170
02:22:56,040 --> 02:22:58,480
Speaker 2: So the way that you're talking about the arrogance is

3171
02:22:58,560 --> 02:23:05,520
Speaker 2: what gets everybody right. There's this snide mug arrogancet that

3172
02:23:06,160 --> 02:23:09,119
Speaker 2: we know it all, we created the game and doing

3173
02:23:09,160 --> 02:23:11,120
Speaker 2: all the And this is coming from someone me who

3174
02:23:11,200 --> 02:23:14,600
Speaker 2: I admire the Patriots rain doing their twenty plus years

3175
02:23:14,680 --> 02:23:17,400
Speaker 2: with Tom Brady and Belichick and all the things that

3176
02:23:17,440 --> 02:23:19,560
Speaker 2: I've heard from former players about how they prepare and

3177
02:23:19,640 --> 02:23:24,480
Speaker 2: how they got ready. But the underlings, as some would

3178
02:23:24,520 --> 02:23:28,120
Speaker 2: call them, dominions who have been given the jobs.

3179
02:23:28,720 --> 02:23:30,440
Speaker 1: I mean, this goes back. I mean you talked about

3180
02:23:30,640 --> 02:23:34,560
Speaker 1: Romeo Cornell and Charlie Weiss and Eric Mangini, Bill O'Brien

3181
02:23:34,680 --> 02:23:38,640
Speaker 1: had some success in Houston, Matt Patricia, Josh McDaniels two

3182
02:23:38,720 --> 02:23:43,520
Speaker 1: times the track record isn't good. And yet oh Joe Judge,

3183
02:23:43,560 --> 02:23:44,039
Speaker 1: that's not though.

3184
02:23:44,120 --> 02:23:48,240
Speaker 2: Joe Judge, and who had coaches running laps and he's

3185
02:23:48,920 --> 02:23:52,280
Speaker 2: diving to cover on side kicks and fumbles and all the.

3186
02:23:52,400 --> 02:23:53,680
Speaker 1: Things that he is.

3187
02:23:53,959 --> 02:23:56,000
Speaker 5: He was bit cabswife. What do you want?

3188
02:23:57,120 --> 02:23:57,320
Speaker 2: You know?

3189
02:23:57,600 --> 02:23:59,920
Speaker 1: And so basically, so that's what we had.

3190
02:24:00,400 --> 02:24:03,040
Speaker 2: You have Mark Davis who said, man, we had the

3191
02:24:03,160 --> 02:24:05,720
Speaker 2: cerebral Patriots way.

3192
02:24:06,320 --> 02:24:06,960
Speaker 1: You know what I'm gonna do.

3193
02:24:07,080 --> 02:24:10,280
Speaker 2: I'm gonna give it to Antonio Pears, who sounds much

3194
02:24:10,400 --> 02:24:12,840
Speaker 2: like Dan Campbell sounded when he took over Detroit.

3195
02:24:12,959 --> 02:24:14,320
Speaker 5: He just sounds like you have to go back on

3196
02:24:14,440 --> 02:24:15,600
Speaker 5: the field and beat people up.

3197
02:24:16,240 --> 02:24:20,000
Speaker 2: Maybe the parallels are there between Detroit moving on from

3198
02:24:20,040 --> 02:24:21,519
Speaker 2: Matt Patricia to hiring.

3199
02:24:21,640 --> 02:24:25,320
Speaker 1: A man's man, a manly man, and Dan Campbell. Maybe

3200
02:24:25,600 --> 02:24:27,400
Speaker 1: when the Raiders move on to ap.

3201
02:24:27,680 --> 02:24:30,200
Speaker 2: Maybe they're getting some of that macho I won't call

3202
02:24:30,200 --> 02:24:32,720
Speaker 2: it stick, but some of that macho, tough guy feel

3203
02:24:33,280 --> 02:24:36,960
Speaker 2: to bring the Raiders brand back, because the Raiders brand

3204
02:24:37,080 --> 02:24:41,320
Speaker 2: is about that. The Raiders became beloved because when everyone's.

3205
02:24:40,920 --> 02:24:42,440
Speaker 1: Zigged, they zagged right.

3206
02:24:42,560 --> 02:24:45,960
Speaker 2: They were the outlaws, the renegades, the outcasts and misfits,

3207
02:24:46,240 --> 02:24:47,280
Speaker 2: and that has worked for them.

3208
02:24:47,840 --> 02:24:49,400
Speaker 1: Maybe they're able to kind of bring some of that

3209
02:24:49,680 --> 02:24:51,000
Speaker 1: tough guy stuff back. There.

3210
02:24:51,080 --> 02:24:55,400
Speaker 9: You go all about getting your brand identity. That's bucket Brooks.

3211
02:24:55,480 --> 02:24:59,160
Speaker 9: You got to listen to the whole show. I'm Michelle Harmon. Yeah,

3212
02:24:59,280 --> 02:25:02,120
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Speaker 9: you the key to that magic number of thirty one.

3218
02:25:17,959 --> 02:25:22,320
Speaker 9: Are we creating another problem as relates to officiating the game,

3219
02:25:22,400 --> 02:25:25,400
Speaker 9: But first we kick it over to our man, Isaac

3220
02:25:25,720 --> 02:25:28,800
Speaker 9: loewenkron At Isaac Lohan kraw where you find him on

3221
02:25:28,840 --> 02:25:32,560
Speaker 9: Twitter for all his commentary, He's got the world at large,

3222
02:25:32,680 --> 02:25:34,040
Speaker 9: He's got the whole world in his hands.

3223
02:25:34,120 --> 02:25:40,840
Speaker 14: Ah buzoo bozo Michell buzoo buzo. Okay, we will go

3224
02:25:41,240 --> 02:25:45,879
Speaker 14: from English to French to Frankfurt, Germany, where the Chiefs

3225
02:25:45,959 --> 02:25:50,200
Speaker 14: and Dolphins are underway. Kansas City received the opening kickoff.

3226
02:25:50,280 --> 02:25:53,520
Speaker 14: First snap, Patrick Mahomes a twenty one yard pass to

3227
02:25:53,640 --> 02:25:57,160
Speaker 14: Marquez Valdez scantling out to the Kansas City forty six

3228
02:25:57,320 --> 02:26:00,280
Speaker 14: yard line, and then Mahomes completed a four yard pass

3229
02:26:00,320 --> 02:26:03,240
Speaker 14: to Travis Kelcey. So two snaps into the game, Kansas

3230
02:26:03,280 --> 02:26:06,680
Speaker 14: City on the move, already at midfield against the Miami

3231
02:26:06,760 --> 02:26:09,960
Speaker 14: Dolphins in a battle of six and two teams. Esped

3232
02:26:10,000 --> 02:26:13,800
Speaker 14: reports Los Angeles Rams quarterback Matthew Stafford unlikely to play

3233
02:26:13,920 --> 02:26:16,520
Speaker 14: at Green Bay today because of a spring right thumb.

3234
02:26:16,600 --> 02:26:20,600
Speaker 14: Brent Rippin expected to start in his place. In college football,

3235
02:26:20,640 --> 02:26:23,240
Speaker 14: on Saturday night, fifth ranked Washington what a number twenty

3236
02:26:23,400 --> 02:26:26,600
Speaker 14: USC fifty two to forty two. Washington running back Dylan

3237
02:26:26,680 --> 02:26:29,879
Speaker 14: Johnson ran for two fifty six with four touchdowns. Washington

3238
02:26:30,000 --> 02:26:32,840
Speaker 14: nine to zero. USC is seven to three. Eighth ranked

3239
02:26:32,920 --> 02:26:35,320
Speaker 14: Alabama with a forty two to twenty eight win over

3240
02:26:35,440 --> 02:26:39,480
Speaker 14: number fourteen LSU. Alabama ran for two hundred and eighty

3241
02:26:39,520 --> 02:26:42,640
Speaker 14: eight yards as a team, including Jalen Milroe who ran

3242
02:26:42,720 --> 02:26:45,320
Speaker 14: for one fifty five with four touchdowns. And number three

3243
02:26:45,440 --> 02:26:48,840
Speaker 14: Michigan defeated Purdue forty one to thirteen. Bet they did

3244
02:26:48,879 --> 02:26:54,640
Speaker 14: a great job of advanced scouting. Anyway, Kansas City on

3245
02:26:54,720 --> 02:26:57,879
Speaker 14: the opening drive of the game just completed a third

3246
02:26:57,959 --> 02:27:02,400
Speaker 14: down and two pass to sky More into Miami territory.

3247
02:27:02,520 --> 02:27:04,400
Speaker 14: So again they are on the move. On the opening

3248
02:27:04,520 --> 02:27:06,160
Speaker 14: drive of the game. They've got a first down to

3249
02:27:06,240 --> 02:27:09,160
Speaker 14: ten coming up at the Dolphin thirty six yard line,

3250
02:27:09,200 --> 02:27:11,800
Speaker 14: and Michelle and Bokay, I will not say goodbye.

3251
02:27:11,879 --> 02:27:13,760
Speaker 4: I will say ro vr for now.

3252
02:27:14,720 --> 02:27:18,440
Speaker 9: Isaac lohen kron Man about town. He's got all the info.

3253
02:27:18,760 --> 02:27:20,880
Speaker 9: And I would say, I think we all saw the

3254
02:27:21,160 --> 02:27:25,400
Speaker 9: drive by handshake coming in our advance scouting of that game.

3255
02:27:26,320 --> 02:27:29,400
Speaker 9: It'll only be more pronounced as the schedule deepens for

3256
02:27:29,480 --> 02:27:32,440
Speaker 9: the University of Michigan. Thank you so much, Ilo my

3257
02:27:32,520 --> 02:27:33,720
Speaker 9: garment Buch with you here.

3258
02:27:33,800 --> 02:27:36,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, so explain to me the drive by Hansha got

3259
02:27:36,240 --> 02:27:36,800
Speaker 1: missed it? What what?

3260
02:27:36,920 --> 02:27:36,960
Speaker 10: What?

3261
02:27:37,400 --> 02:27:39,920
Speaker 9: Literally the coach kind of did the all right here,

3262
02:27:40,200 --> 02:27:43,280
Speaker 9: we're we're gonna just cross pads. I'm gonna do this

3263
02:27:43,440 --> 02:27:46,840
Speaker 9: because if I don't, everybody's going to be mad at whatever.

3264
02:27:46,920 --> 02:27:49,119
Speaker 9: I'm not going to stop and even say good game, coach.

3265
02:27:49,480 --> 02:27:52,360
Speaker 9: It's a quick handshake, you know, the fish handshake, and

3266
02:27:52,440 --> 02:27:52,880
Speaker 9: off you go.

3267
02:27:54,160 --> 02:27:58,400
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I wonder if I wonder if Jim Harbaugh

3268
02:27:59,280 --> 02:28:01,960
Speaker 2: was one of those who kind of did that, because

3269
02:28:01,959 --> 02:28:02,440
Speaker 2: you know, like the.

3270
02:28:02,440 --> 02:28:05,480
Speaker 1: One thing we know about him, he does not mind conflict.

3271
02:28:05,520 --> 02:28:07,160
Speaker 9: He Oh no, he was happy to go to that

3272
02:28:07,280 --> 02:28:09,200
Speaker 9: mid midfield. He was all excited.

3273
02:28:09,600 --> 02:28:14,400
Speaker 1: Oh because like he won. The Purdue coach was very open.

3274
02:28:14,520 --> 02:28:18,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, Ryan O man, he was open and yeah, Ryan

3275
02:28:18,560 --> 02:28:20,040
Speaker 2: Watters was open about talking.

3276
02:28:20,680 --> 02:28:22,760
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you know, we got them tickets.

3277
02:28:22,920 --> 02:28:25,400
Speaker 2: Probably the one who's been the most open about talking

3278
02:28:25,440 --> 02:28:28,080
Speaker 2: about the scandal and those things, and we got it.

3279
02:28:28,720 --> 02:28:31,120
Speaker 5: To give him credit, he finally came out, yeah and

3280
02:28:31,440 --> 02:28:32,000
Speaker 5: said something.

3281
02:28:32,520 --> 02:28:34,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, he put his name on it and all that.

3282
02:28:34,280 --> 02:28:36,320
Speaker 2: He was kind of chesty when he did it. I

3283
02:28:36,480 --> 02:28:40,240
Speaker 2: appreciated that part of it. But now that it's out

3284
02:28:40,280 --> 02:28:44,560
Speaker 2: there and everyone kind of knows and so allegedly Michigan

3285
02:28:44,680 --> 02:28:45,240
Speaker 2: can't do that.

3286
02:28:46,040 --> 02:28:48,960
Speaker 1: So now, what's the excuse. What's the excuse when they

3287
02:28:48,959 --> 02:28:49,879
Speaker 1: beat you like a drum.

3288
02:28:49,840 --> 02:28:52,000
Speaker 2: Now, because you're gonna run out of excuses to be

3289
02:28:52,040 --> 02:28:55,800
Speaker 2: able to say that the signal, the signs and all

3290
02:28:55,879 --> 02:28:58,040
Speaker 2: that other stuff was a problem. What is going to

3291
02:28:58,080 --> 02:29:00,240
Speaker 2: be excused as they continue to beat people to leap

3292
02:29:00,360 --> 02:29:00,879
Speaker 2: going forward?

3293
02:29:01,040 --> 02:29:03,240
Speaker 9: Well, and that's the larger question, right, It's like the

3294
02:29:03,320 --> 02:29:07,520
Speaker 9: Houston Astros scandal, We're still beating you. I mean, Dusty

3295
02:29:07,600 --> 02:29:10,560
Speaker 9: Baker retires in his comment I thought was kind of interesting.

3296
02:29:10,920 --> 02:29:14,119
Speaker 9: Tired of having answer questions every day. He just got

3297
02:29:14,200 --> 02:29:19,080
Speaker 9: tired of bloggers and all of the noise. Like here's Dusty,

3298
02:29:19,560 --> 02:29:24,960
Speaker 9: lifelong baseball guy, all these years media in Chicago, you

3299
02:29:25,120 --> 02:29:28,039
Speaker 9: name it, all these he takes over in Houston after

3300
02:29:28,160 --> 02:29:30,800
Speaker 9: the scandal, and he finally just says, yeah, I just

3301
02:29:30,840 --> 02:29:32,720
Speaker 9: got tired of doing press. I just want to manage

3302
02:29:32,800 --> 02:29:36,400
Speaker 9: damn baseball games. But we look at it with Michigan,

3303
02:29:36,520 --> 02:29:40,440
Speaker 9: it's like, yeah, what's next, And you've got the letter

3304
02:29:40,680 --> 02:29:45,400
Speaker 9: from their president saying, hey, we want the due diligence

3305
02:29:45,760 --> 02:29:48,880
Speaker 9: and we as we know the NCAA for so many things.

3306
02:29:49,560 --> 02:29:52,480
Speaker 5: I mean, when Reggie Bush's stuff finally came down, he

3307
02:29:52,680 --> 02:29:54,000
Speaker 5: was five years in the pros.

3308
02:29:54,720 --> 02:29:57,480
Speaker 2: He already had he already had his pension, right, No, exactly,

3309
02:29:57,640 --> 02:29:59,400
Speaker 2: he was already he was already ready to retire.

3310
02:29:59,480 --> 02:30:02,240
Speaker 9: I mean, guys come through the program and left before

3311
02:30:02,280 --> 02:30:06,160
Speaker 9: the portal, before they made any decision, and everybody's like, no,

3312
02:30:06,720 --> 02:30:09,840
Speaker 9: I want it now, you won't make a decision now.

3313
02:30:11,040 --> 02:30:13,720
Speaker 5: It's just funny the way it all works.

3314
02:30:13,800 --> 02:30:16,240
Speaker 9: And you know, my guy Smith has been going on

3315
02:30:16,360 --> 02:30:19,440
Speaker 9: and on that you know they're gonna get hammered, et cetera.

3316
02:30:19,760 --> 02:30:22,040
Speaker 9: And maybe in the end, here's another penalty.

3317
02:30:22,200 --> 02:30:23,320
Speaker 1: How can it? So?

3318
02:30:24,320 --> 02:30:27,720
Speaker 2: I had this conversation with Bruce Filman about it, and

3319
02:30:27,800 --> 02:30:30,720
Speaker 2: I was trying to figure out you will appreciate this.

3320
02:30:30,800 --> 02:30:33,640
Speaker 2: We were talking about flag football and those things, right,

3321
02:30:33,640 --> 02:30:36,760
Speaker 2: because Bruce coaches a flag boy his son's team down there,

3322
02:30:37,000 --> 02:30:40,120
Speaker 2: you know, down in South Bay whatever he was talking

3323
02:30:40,120 --> 02:30:42,000
Speaker 2: about like they wanted in those things. And so he

3324
02:30:42,120 --> 02:30:44,800
Speaker 2: was asking me as a coach, and I was like, well, Bruce,

3325
02:30:44,840 --> 02:30:47,560
Speaker 2: I'm a guy who I've coached flag football teams to

3326
02:30:47,680 --> 02:30:50,280
Speaker 2: championships and I would go to games and I would

3327
02:30:50,280 --> 02:30:53,080
Speaker 2: tape the opposing team because I wanted to prepare. Is

3328
02:30:53,360 --> 02:30:55,480
Speaker 2: there something wrong with that? And he looked at me

3329
02:30:56,000 --> 02:30:58,920
Speaker 2: with it incrediles us look, and I was like, that's

3330
02:30:59,000 --> 02:30:59,680
Speaker 2: what coaches do.

3331
02:31:00,040 --> 02:31:03,720
Speaker 9: Yeah, we've got people watch my daughter's games, right, they're

3332
02:31:03,720 --> 02:31:06,920
Speaker 9: in a competitive seen them soccer league.

3333
02:31:07,040 --> 02:31:10,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, they want the information. And so when I look

3334
02:31:10,920 --> 02:31:14,279
Speaker 2: at college games, I've always wondered, we see all the placards.

3335
02:31:14,800 --> 02:31:18,040
Speaker 2: I've seen people hold up the sheets over top of

3336
02:31:18,120 --> 02:31:21,400
Speaker 2: the backs of the defensive and offensive coordinators so you

3337
02:31:21,520 --> 02:31:22,640
Speaker 2: can't see their signs.

3338
02:31:23,120 --> 02:31:26,920
Speaker 1: To me, I thought college football already knew that people.

3339
02:31:26,760 --> 02:31:30,360
Speaker 2: Were trying to steal signs and those things, And so

3340
02:31:30,600 --> 02:31:32,600
Speaker 2: I'm trying to figure out why it's such a big

3341
02:31:32,720 --> 02:31:36,960
Speaker 2: deal now when everyone has tried to gain a competitive

3342
02:31:37,080 --> 02:31:39,879
Speaker 2: edge when it comes to stealing signs and skunking signals

3343
02:31:40,240 --> 02:31:40,920
Speaker 2: and those things.

3344
02:31:41,000 --> 02:31:44,680
Speaker 9: It's been there forever, which is why you change, right,

3345
02:31:44,720 --> 02:31:47,600
Speaker 9: I mean, you got a long component. We've we've had

3346
02:31:47,680 --> 02:31:50,279
Speaker 9: the running joke of let's make fun of the reporters

3347
02:31:50,320 --> 02:31:52,880
Speaker 9: who didn't play at the highest level, Bucky. But you

3348
02:31:52,959 --> 02:31:56,320
Speaker 9: know you've got a base term to start your play calls,

3349
02:31:56,360 --> 02:32:00,840
Speaker 9: and then it gets complicated. You're changing those every week anyway, right,

3350
02:32:00,920 --> 02:32:03,600
Speaker 9: I mean you're you're mixing and matching on the idea

3351
02:32:03,800 --> 02:32:07,040
Speaker 9: that someone's gonna pick it up, which is why you

3352
02:32:07,160 --> 02:32:10,560
Speaker 9: have the giant, novelty sized play cards. Why it became

3353
02:32:10,680 --> 02:32:14,240
Speaker 9: such a big deal A couple of weeks ago. Who

3354
02:32:14,360 --> 02:32:17,200
Speaker 9: was it the head coach that it was? Was it

3355
02:32:17,280 --> 02:32:19,960
Speaker 9: Shanahan that had his up or one of those coaches

3356
02:32:20,560 --> 02:32:23,360
Speaker 9: had their play card up? And no, no, no, it

3357
02:32:23,480 --> 02:32:26,920
Speaker 9: was Sean Payton, and everybody started trying to dissect it.

3358
02:32:27,080 --> 02:32:27,800
Speaker 5: Well, the font was.

3359
02:32:27,800 --> 02:32:31,040
Speaker 9: Too small to really make anything out of it from

3360
02:32:31,080 --> 02:32:34,400
Speaker 9: where I sat trying to blow it up. But same ideas,

3361
02:32:34,440 --> 02:32:36,320
Speaker 9: like generally you're trying to hide that stuff, right, you

3362
02:32:36,400 --> 02:32:39,040
Speaker 9: got your giant arm bands, but that gets changed up

3363
02:32:39,080 --> 02:32:40,560
Speaker 9: week to week based on opponents.

3364
02:32:41,280 --> 02:32:43,000
Speaker 2: It should be and I can tell your story now

3365
02:32:43,040 --> 02:32:46,880
Speaker 2: that it's all done. Let's go the Inn Andapolis coast, right,

3366
02:32:46,959 --> 02:32:48,320
Speaker 2: the Inn and Fis coast. And this is in the

3367
02:32:48,360 --> 02:32:52,959
Speaker 2: middle of the Tony Dungee era. Howard Mudd, late offensive

3368
02:32:53,000 --> 02:32:55,720
Speaker 2: line coach, as you know, to be the guy who

3369
02:32:55,760 --> 02:32:59,560
Speaker 2: could break the code. He could break down signals better

3370
02:32:59,600 --> 02:33:02,600
Speaker 2: than any else. This is in league circles. They talked

3371
02:33:02,600 --> 02:33:05,800
Speaker 2: about that. So I've known teams who used to play

3372
02:33:05,800 --> 02:33:09,520
Speaker 2: against those vintage colts. They would, so you would see

3373
02:33:09,520 --> 02:33:13,199
Speaker 2: all the players with wristbands right, and so the decoordinated

3374
02:33:13,240 --> 02:33:15,320
Speaker 2: with signal something. Then guys would look at the wristband,

3375
02:33:15,560 --> 02:33:17,800
Speaker 2: the signal correlated to something on the wristband, and they

3376
02:33:17,840 --> 02:33:18,520
Speaker 2: would make the call.

3377
02:33:19,080 --> 02:33:21,360
Speaker 1: When you played against the Indianapolis.

3378
02:33:20,800 --> 02:33:23,760
Speaker 2: Colts, you needed to change your wristband at the end

3379
02:33:23,840 --> 02:33:26,960
Speaker 2: of every quarter so you could keep them from breaking

3380
02:33:27,040 --> 02:33:29,400
Speaker 2: the code. So this is in the league, back in

3381
02:33:29,440 --> 02:33:32,320
Speaker 2: the middle of the Peyton Manning. Hey, dad, So this

3382
02:33:32,480 --> 02:33:34,840
Speaker 2: has always kind of been a part of the fabric

3383
02:33:35,280 --> 02:33:39,040
Speaker 2: of football. And so I am surprised in college and

3384
02:33:39,480 --> 02:33:41,039
Speaker 2: people will say, oh, well they went too far, they

3385
02:33:41,120 --> 02:33:44,320
Speaker 2: were buying tickets or whatever. But everyone is always trying

3386
02:33:44,360 --> 02:33:46,840
Speaker 2: to get that edge. I am just surprised that it

3387
02:33:46,959 --> 02:33:49,280
Speaker 2: has become that. And people talk about the coach at Oklahoma,

3388
02:33:49,320 --> 02:33:52,200
Speaker 2: Brent Venables, they say he is a mastermind when it

3389
02:33:52,280 --> 02:33:57,119
Speaker 2: comes to breaking Now what the hand signal is correlating

3390
02:33:57,200 --> 02:33:58,960
Speaker 2: to what the action is on the field.

3391
02:34:00,080 --> 02:34:00,720
Speaker 5: I would say this.

3392
02:34:00,879 --> 02:34:04,199
Speaker 9: I enjoyed the M and ms on the sideline four guys,

3393
02:34:04,760 --> 02:34:07,000
Speaker 9: I think it was Rutgers yesterday. They had four guys

3394
02:34:07,080 --> 02:34:11,960
Speaker 9: doing signals on the sidelined. So they look like the

3395
02:34:12,000 --> 02:34:14,760
Speaker 9: holiday m and MS said, different color sweaters in the

3396
02:34:14,800 --> 02:34:19,480
Speaker 9: whole nine yards. So just insane as you go. But yeah,

3397
02:34:19,560 --> 02:34:23,200
Speaker 9: well we'll watch that drama continue to unfold. Hey, if

3398
02:34:23,240 --> 02:34:25,120
Speaker 9: you like using debit over credit shud and you also

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02:34:25,160 --> 02:34:27,600
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02:34:34,320 --> 02:34:37,240
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02:34:37,320 --> 02:34:42,119
Speaker 9: back Debit Discover bank member FDIC. To your point, Bucky,

3404
02:34:42,200 --> 02:34:44,600
Speaker 9: I've seen many a guy set up with a video

3405
02:34:44,720 --> 02:34:47,160
Speaker 9: camera in the corner. I know he ain't from our team.

3406
02:34:47,600 --> 02:34:50,320
Speaker 9: He ain't said another word to another parent along the

3407
02:34:50,360 --> 02:34:54,440
Speaker 9: other sideline. Yeah, advanced scouting. It exists on every level,

3408
02:34:55,080 --> 02:34:57,600
Speaker 9: whether you like it or not. And if you can

3409
02:34:57,680 --> 02:34:59,920
Speaker 9: get guys to do forty trips for a total of fifty,

3410
02:35:01,320 --> 02:35:04,600
Speaker 9: you also win an award for the greatest ROI ever

3411
02:35:05,320 --> 02:35:08,400
Speaker 9: as a college. Right, think about the number of wins

3412
02:35:08,480 --> 02:35:10,960
Speaker 9: for Michigan the last three years when this allegedly is

3413
02:35:11,040 --> 02:35:14,280
Speaker 9: going on, and the millions of dollars not only not

3414
02:35:14,440 --> 02:35:17,240
Speaker 9: only in bowl games and everything else, but all those

3415
02:35:17,440 --> 02:35:20,560
Speaker 9: extra applications. Owing back to the topic we had with

3416
02:35:20,640 --> 02:35:23,520
Speaker 9: Andy Furman last hour. See it's a rich tapestry we

3417
02:35:23,640 --> 02:35:27,360
Speaker 9: weave here on Fox Sports Radio. He's Bucky Brooks on

3418
02:35:27,480 --> 02:35:30,360
Speaker 9: Mike Carmen and coming up from the Tirac dot Com studios.

3419
02:35:30,440 --> 02:35:33,880
Speaker 9: We will get to that number thirty one. Yeah, and

3420
02:35:34,000 --> 02:35:37,119
Speaker 9: it's the beer and wings game of the day. We'll

3421
02:35:37,120 --> 02:35:39,640
Speaker 9: talk about all that next here on Fox Sports Radio.

3422
02:35:40,640 --> 02:35:44,640
Speaker 9: Welcome back in tire Act dot Com, Fox Sports Radio Studios,

3423
02:35:45,000 --> 02:35:49,720
Speaker 9: Mike Carmon alongside Bucky Brooks. We are underway in Germany,

3424
02:35:49,879 --> 02:35:53,840
Speaker 9: the early game. I know the lamentations. Why did they

3425
02:35:54,040 --> 02:35:57,000
Speaker 9: send such a great game in the morning. Guess what,

3426
02:35:57,440 --> 02:35:59,959
Speaker 9: Get yourself a breakfast burrito, a large cup of coffe,

3427
02:36:00,200 --> 02:36:01,920
Speaker 9: maybe a mimosa Bloody Mary.

3428
02:36:02,040 --> 02:36:02,520
Speaker 5: Life's good.

3429
02:36:03,160 --> 02:36:06,600
Speaker 9: It's just earlier tailgating than normal because you actually want

3430
02:36:06,680 --> 02:36:10,440
Speaker 9: to watch this game. We are early in the first quarter.

3431
02:36:10,520 --> 02:36:14,320
Speaker 9: Chiefs already on the board, Bucky, just like that, straight

3432
02:36:14,400 --> 02:36:18,320
Speaker 9: down the field they march for Miami. Something we're watching

3433
02:36:19,000 --> 02:36:22,520
Speaker 9: and their ensuing possession. Jalen Waddle left trying to get

3434
02:36:22,560 --> 02:36:25,959
Speaker 9: a block on for Raheem Moster out to the outside,

3435
02:36:26,080 --> 02:36:30,680
Speaker 9: so he was being taken for evaluation more as we go,

3436
02:36:30,920 --> 02:36:34,160
Speaker 9: but the Chiefs early on trying to make make Hay

3437
02:36:34,240 --> 02:36:35,360
Speaker 9: here early in Germany.

3438
02:36:36,600 --> 02:36:38,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Knsy the Chiefs, and the reason why I

3439
02:36:38,720 --> 02:36:40,560
Speaker 2: was favoring the Chiefs, I felt like your defense was

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02:36:40,600 --> 02:36:43,280
Speaker 2: better than the Miami Dolphins. The Dolphins have been solid,

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02:36:43,320 --> 02:36:46,560
Speaker 2: but they haven't been exceptional defense. They got Jalen Ramsey back.

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Speaker 1: I think they still waiting on Jalen Phillips to kind

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02:36:48,959 --> 02:36:50,720
Speaker 1: of bounce back and do those things. They're not the

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Speaker 1: same and the.

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Speaker 2: CANSA the Chiefs, particularly if they get up, they have

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02:36:54,440 --> 02:36:56,560
Speaker 2: a defense that can close it out. This is a

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02:36:56,720 --> 02:36:59,560
Speaker 2: situation critical for the Miami Dolphins. They cannot play from

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02:36:59,560 --> 02:37:00,480
Speaker 2: behind a gay as a team.

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Speaker 1: This is good defensively as can see the chief.

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Speaker 9: So first possession, mahomes five of six, seventy one yards

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02:37:06,160 --> 02:37:09,960
Speaker 9: and a score. Rashi Rice finds the end zone on

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02:37:10,400 --> 02:37:16,120
Speaker 9: that drive. You already had five different Chiefs players with receptions.

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Speaker 9: We'll keep an eye on that. Sure live betting information

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Speaker 9: and breakdowns coming up on countdown to kick off with

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Speaker 9: Jeff Bill and Brian at the top of the hour.

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Speaker 5: So keep it here.

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Speaker 9: runs way too fast here. Bucky thirty one finds handed

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02:37:48,959 --> 02:37:52,360
Speaker 9: out by the league for on field infractions, a number

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02:37:52,400 --> 02:37:55,920
Speaker 9: of which because they disclose where in the sequencing of

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02:37:56,000 --> 02:38:00,160
Speaker 9: events the plays that these fines were levied against. And

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02:38:00,240 --> 02:38:02,640
Speaker 9: there are many that leave me scratching my head, particularly

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02:38:02,720 --> 02:38:06,520
Speaker 9: those against running backs, either as blockers or as actual

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02:38:06,720 --> 02:38:10,640
Speaker 9: runners being fined. Jalen Warren is down two game checks

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Speaker 9: already this year.

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Speaker 1: Bucky, Yeah, Like, I hate that defines are so expensive.

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Speaker 2: I think there has to be something that because some

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02:38:20,080 --> 02:38:22,680
Speaker 2: of the fines I hear about, like uniform violations, Oh

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Speaker 2: that's fourteen thousand.

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02:38:23,560 --> 02:38:24,760
Speaker 1: Dollars, because just socks are too low.

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02:38:25,160 --> 02:38:27,680
Speaker 2: Like to me, it should be, I mean, can be

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02:38:27,720 --> 02:38:30,760
Speaker 2: a little reasonable, and particularly when it comes to like

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02:38:31,000 --> 02:38:33,880
Speaker 2: a player you're talking about Warren, he's given up two

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02:38:34,000 --> 02:38:34,640
Speaker 2: game checks.

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Speaker 1: Can we make it?

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02:38:35,840 --> 02:38:38,560
Speaker 2: Can we work on percentages or any of those things,

3482
02:38:38,560 --> 02:38:40,280
Speaker 2: because it just doesn't appear to be like a fair

3483
02:38:40,400 --> 02:38:41,320
Speaker 2: deal when it comes to it.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I know, we got the repeat offender situation that

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02:38:44,720 --> 02:38:47,520
Speaker 9: comes in, but for some of them, and I'd have

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02:38:47,560 --> 02:38:50,000
Speaker 9: to go through and run the math through the first

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02:38:50,040 --> 02:38:53,080
Speaker 9: eight weeks, but there's certainly a number of these plays like, yeah,

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02:38:53,120 --> 02:38:57,040
Speaker 9: you didn't get flagged, but here's we're gonna take. You know,

3489
02:38:57,200 --> 02:38:59,560
Speaker 9: there's the giant pink envelope. Be sure to make it

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Speaker 9: pay up and have money in that account. It's really

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02:39:03,520 --> 02:39:07,320
Speaker 9: an amazing thing on top of all the flags that

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02:39:07,400 --> 02:39:10,320
Speaker 9: we complain about on a week to week basis. All right, lastly,

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02:39:10,920 --> 02:39:14,800
Speaker 9: as we get in, obviously this game is primetime viewing

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02:39:15,000 --> 02:39:19,840
Speaker 9: for NFL fans, and then later on this evening you've

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02:39:19,920 --> 02:39:22,760
Speaker 9: got prime time for real in Buffalo and Cincinnati.

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02:39:22,840 --> 02:39:24,840
Speaker 5: In between. Is there a game that stands out on

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Speaker 5: the slate that's got your rapt attention?

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02:39:27,320 --> 02:39:29,440
Speaker 1: America's team Dallas and the Philadelphia Eagles.

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02:39:29,520 --> 02:39:32,039
Speaker 2: Disc will tell us if the Cowboys are legit kenne

3500
02:39:32,080 --> 02:39:33,560
Speaker 2: go toe to toe with one of the best teams,

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02:39:33,600 --> 02:39:34,840
Speaker 2: if not the best team in the NFL.

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02:39:34,879 --> 02:39:37,240
Speaker 9: And the Eagles, Let's see what Jalen Hurts has because

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02:39:37,280 --> 02:39:39,080
Speaker 9: if you ask him about his knees just getting up

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02:39:39,120 --> 02:39:42,840
Speaker 9: and walking away, that's Bucky Brooks'm Mike Harmon, thanks for

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02:39:42,959 --> 02:39:43,400
Speaker 9: hanging out.

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Speaker 5: Countdown to kick Off is next on Fox