Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast, New England, Blue Block. Welcome
Speaker 1: to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast. My
Speaker 1: name is Dan Anders, and I'm coming to you from
Speaker 1: a country filled with heroes in bunkers. Mark Sessler, Greg Rosenthal,
Speaker 1: Ricky Hollywood. What is up? Boys and girls? Hey, hey, hey,
Speaker 1: remember that old one? You know? The coronavirus has taken
Speaker 1: so much from us. It's annoying, it's insidious, and it
Speaker 1: got us again yesterday. We did the Media Talents NFL
Speaker 1: Media Talent Summit on Tuesday. But because no one can
Speaker 1: now get together at a posh hotel on the west
Speaker 1: side of Los Angeles, right on the on the ocean,
Speaker 1: it's a It was a virtual summit. And think of
Speaker 1: all the things that we lost because of that, all
Speaker 1: the fun, uh, Michael Irvin getting to just watch him
Speaker 1: sitting there and see how long it takes before he
Speaker 1: taps out. Didn't see that, by the way, didn't didn't
Speaker 1: see the very highest of the high. Didn't see the highest.
Speaker 1: But that used to be one of the hooks of uh.
Speaker 1: That was one of the great hooks of the Talent
Speaker 1: summit quote unquote, is that even the highest of the
Speaker 1: high had to attend, so you saw them squirming in
Speaker 1: the chair like the rest of us. And the biggest tragedy,
Speaker 1: Mark Sesslers. We didn't have Steve Smith and all the
Speaker 1: other guys screaming at Al river Ron about the new rules.
Speaker 1: We lost all of that and the coronas coronavirus strikes again. Well,
Speaker 1: there is a part two to the summit, which I
Speaker 1: guess might include some of that, but I don't think
Speaker 1: that it was without its charms, because there was a
Speaker 1: there was a moment during it. There was a you know,
Speaker 1: if there were there was a very intense um conversation
Speaker 1: going on, and if you've been on one of these
Speaker 1: zooms with sixty people where you can see them and
Speaker 1: you know, I'm shuffling through from page one to three,
Speaker 1: and UM couched on page two during this. I don't
Speaker 1: want to say what the subject matter was, but it
Speaker 1: was UM important, very it would be a time for
Speaker 1: you to to look plugged in and to be paying
Speaker 1: attention to the company messaging. And UM I catched Dan
Speaker 1: and Dan is in the in the in the setting
Speaker 1: that he is right now up and his father in
Speaker 1: law's Uh. I guess you'd call that an attic area
Speaker 1: redone established that this is Bill O'Brien's attic, Bill O'Brien's.
Speaker 1: He's up in Bill O'Brien's attic, but um completely not
Speaker 1: engaged in the conversation. Dan, in fact, is on a
Speaker 1: phone call and swiveling around the room in his chair
Speaker 1: and laughing and getting up and walking around the room.
Speaker 1: And I texted Danna said, Dan, I don't know what
Speaker 1: I don't know what you're doing those texts. Let me
Speaker 1: read those, because I had forgotten that I was on camera. Well,
Speaker 1: because you know, the zoom stuff is a little bit
Speaker 1: and ai because once Mark made a joke about it.
Speaker 1: You know, I didn't see the text for five ten minutes,
Speaker 1: but then I did, and there you were. You were
Speaker 1: still going wild forever it went on. It went on
Speaker 1: way longer than it should have. Uh it, says Mark
Speaker 1: wrote to me. I'd go off video, bro in tent combo,
Speaker 1: your front and center on another phone call, go dark
Speaker 1: with a unicorn bro it. But only after I saw
Speaker 1: bro that I even noticed your text, and I very
Speaker 1: promptly went off video. Well you saw it, but I
Speaker 1: sent those at least twelve minutes before you read them.
Speaker 1: I was dying there because I was like, we had
Speaker 1: the highest to the high of our company. If any
Speaker 1: of them were to see Dan, well, everyone else is
Speaker 1: just very magnetized and giving great opinions and discussing. You
Speaker 1: got Dan flipping around. I don't know who you were
Speaker 1: talking to? You, Dan, I don't know what I was
Speaker 1: talking to, and it would have to be someone very
Speaker 1: important for me to jump off. Temporarily, my focus it
Speaker 1: was the Gatesville Messenger. It was the long awaited one
Speaker 1: on one interview with Heather Ashley, their features columnist, and
Speaker 1: I had to take the call. And you know if
Speaker 1: the bosses do, you know, hit me up with a
Speaker 1: phone call on an email and they want to discuss
Speaker 1: why I wasn't plugged in that moment. I was promoting
Speaker 1: the brand across the country. You've got intense cover, no
Speaker 1: doubt this you do. That was bad though. When I
Speaker 1: saw the text, there was a holy bit moment. Oh god,
Speaker 1: you know when Mark only breaks out the brof things
Speaker 1: are really serious. It's one of those times where you're
Speaker 1: concerned for your friend because it was like, it looks
Speaker 1: so incongruous to every other person in our company. I
Speaker 1: was like his Dan just going forward here on the side.
Speaker 1: I laughed. I was not concerned. I thought if anyone
Speaker 1: happened to be scrolling through and saw it, they would
Speaker 1: they would find the humor in it. I believe. Well
Speaker 1: the other problem, and Mark alluded to it, the conversation
Speaker 1: was a sensitive topic. Uh, And I guess you could
Speaker 1: take my behavior on my video screen and see it
Speaker 1: as something that was disrespectful. I mean, no disrespect that's all.
Speaker 1: We know. That great though, I just gotta turn the
Speaker 1: video off, Like like the meeting was smart enough to
Speaker 1: most of the time. I've I thought it was like
Speaker 1: I know, Mark, you were on video most of the
Speaker 1: time too. I I just it was the right thing
Speaker 1: to do. Yeah, Greg, I saw you on there to
Speaker 1: Rika had a cardboard cutout of herself that was inble
Speaker 1: I told the Arika, I told Dereka. The only thing
Speaker 1: that would have made it better is if you had
Speaker 1: it as like a gift that blinked occasionally. We really
Speaker 1: had people well, we were gonna we Our plan was
Speaker 1: to all at some point put up. It was a
Speaker 1: headshot of America. All put up head shots of America,
Speaker 1: and that would have caused um total chaos. It would
Speaker 1: have been great. It was I was listening. I just, um,
Speaker 1: you know, I didn't want to be watched. It was
Speaker 1: a long eight hour day. And my head shot is
Speaker 1: smiling and very attentive, and I had my headphones in.
Speaker 1: I just you know, right, well, it's on America. Good
Speaker 1: job America, today's show. Shut up. You were the one
Speaker 1: on the phone swinging around, like swinging your head around,
Speaker 1: like headbanging like around. Ah. I told you that was
Speaker 1: not my finest moment. But you know, a lot of
Speaker 1: America playing shuffleboard yourself. You're running from one end of
Speaker 1: the table to the other. A lot of America is
Speaker 1: doing these zoom meetings every day for work, for hours
Speaker 1: and hours, and they have it down at this point.
Speaker 1: There were multiple times where I forgot I was in camera.
Speaker 1: I'm just glad it didn't go worse, to be quite
Speaker 1: honest with you, Ah, all right, spun the wheel of
Speaker 1: teams on Monday landed on my New York Jets. So
Speaker 1: we're gonna have Miniche Meta of the New York Daily
Speaker 1: News joining us in conversation. And and I love that.
Speaker 1: As soon as I say that, Jets fans are either
Speaker 1: excited to hear it or are angry because that is
Speaker 1: the reaction that Meta gets uh in jets Nation. He's
Speaker 1: a polarizing figure and that's why we thought it would
Speaker 1: be fun to have Minichean for that reason. We're going
Speaker 1: to talk to him about that as well as what's
Speaker 1: going on with the jets in. But before we do that,
Speaker 1: let's hit the news. What's up everyone, Autumn here or
Speaker 1: doing another que and a today? And I'm taking the
Speaker 1: questions from comments from my different YouTube videos, So let's
Speaker 1: jump right into this. What weight do you use an extreme?
Speaker 1: That one is from Mark Sessler? This Mommy Mark Sessler
Speaker 1: thoughts on juicing in the morning. This one is from
Speaker 1: I don't hope I pronounced his name right, a hero.
Speaker 1: What type of shoes do you wear? From Mark Sessler? Hi. Wow,
Speaker 1: someone put a fair amount of work into that, because
Speaker 1: that is completely fictitious. So that was Autumn. I've found
Speaker 1: it right on YouTube. It was kind of weird actually,
Speaker 1: speaking of people that were caught, um, you know, not
Speaker 1: aware that they were going to be seen. Mark, you
Speaker 1: told us today that you were doing your beach body
Speaker 1: workout in your backyard and a pair of boxer shorts
Speaker 1: and the lawnmower man came out back That was the
Speaker 1: worst because you know, the kids are home seven they're
Speaker 1: they're never not home. So they were in the living
Speaker 1: room where I would normally do it, and I can
Speaker 1: either like cause total chaos by trying to get them
Speaker 1: out of there. So I said, I'm just gonna do
Speaker 1: this in the backyard. White boxers like why why not
Speaker 1: a pair of athletic shorts Jim short I honestly because
Speaker 1: I don't have UM. I was looking around for the
Speaker 1: kind of shorts that you could exercise in and could
Speaker 1: not find any. So I was like, no one can
Speaker 1: see my yard. So I just went out into and
Speaker 1: why they were not boxers that I would I would
Speaker 1: say they were closer to like briefs um and I
Speaker 1: was king, I was not facing like the entrance to
Speaker 1: our last summer just got hotter, Yes it did, and like,
Speaker 1: h anyway, so I'm doing this like sort of boxing
Speaker 1: class and you know, kicking the legs around and doing punches.
Speaker 1: And then I turned around and then I see, um
Speaker 1: are very nice lawnmower man is like, you know, it's
Speaker 1: seven ft into the yard, sort of just trying not
Speaker 1: to look at me, but extremely awkward. I just walked
Speaker 1: into the house. You can call them landscaper too. He's
Speaker 1: the landscaper, lawnmower man. I don't know, landscape a bad
Speaker 1: horror movie. That's a rental property. I don't think there's
Speaker 1: a whole lot of landscaping going on here. But he
Speaker 1: is mowing the lawn. But I'm not going to be
Speaker 1: doing that again. No more yard workouts. I mean, just
Speaker 1: but I'm shorts. Just but I'm that's a fair solution.
Speaker 1: I probably should have thought of that out of the
Speaker 1: gate briefs. Keep it like punched in the front right there,
Speaker 1: so you're not swinging around like Dan on a phone
Speaker 1: call still to speak. Okay, just just yeah, just adding
Speaker 1: it all up. It's any other questions about that area, No,
Speaker 1: I'll let you know if I come up with any
Speaker 1: of them. Alright, good. No preseason games in The NFL
Speaker 1: Players Association on Tuesday told its players they'll will be
Speaker 1: zero preseason action uh this summer. Mike garretfoll and Tom
Speaker 1: Pellar Sero and rap Sheet all reported this. Union leadership
Speaker 1: shared this info with its players during a conference call
Speaker 1: one day after the league had proposed a one game
Speaker 1: preseason slate to the union. They followed that up later
Speaker 1: on Monday with an adjusted offer that included zero preseason games. Uh.
Speaker 1: This had been a note of contention and now that
Speaker 1: is wiped away. So Uh, that is one of the
Speaker 1: few things that we've seen in the way of progress
Speaker 1: since Monday. Greg. Yeah, And I think it's significant because
Speaker 1: it really shows a the league is, you know, trying
Speaker 1: to listen to some of what the players are saying.
Speaker 1: I think the social media blitz that the star players
Speaker 1: did on Sunday was was effective in that way and
Speaker 1: bringing the message to the public. And I think it's
Speaker 1: really striking, like how quickly this has been changing. I mean,
Speaker 1: even though it feels like it's it's been slow. Like
Speaker 1: they they announced that, Hey, we're actually reducing the preseason
Speaker 1: and the NFL hasn't officially even announced this yet. They've
Speaker 1: just told the NFL, but we're reducing it to two
Speaker 1: and here's the ticket plan. We're gonna do one and
Speaker 1: each thing. That was just a couple of weeks ago,
Speaker 1: and and it's like, hey, we're still starting training camp
Speaker 1: on time. That was just a couple of weeks ago,
Speaker 1: and now here we are, Okay, the preseason is gone.
Speaker 1: That training camp you can say it's starting on time,
Speaker 1: but it's not really starting on time. They're just testing
Speaker 1: for a handful of days and then the guys are
Speaker 1: working out for a week or two. That's not really
Speaker 1: training camp. That what people think of as training camp
Speaker 1: in terms of players hitting other players might not be
Speaker 1: told about mid to late August in the best case scenario.
Speaker 1: So I actually think this has been moving fairly quickly.
Speaker 1: And uh, I think it's significant that the owners, you know,
Speaker 1: whatever hard line that they were hoping to have just
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago is moving pretty fast, and
Speaker 1: it's moving in the direction, hopefully of health and safety,
Speaker 1: which which has definitely been a priority for the players.
Speaker 1: I think, Greg, you said something notable in the last
Speaker 1: show where you mentioned that the season overall might separate
Speaker 1: some coaches and make some stars out of certain coaches.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is going to you're You're gonna need
Speaker 1: to be on the ball as a coaching staff to
Speaker 1: get the best out of your players. There's a lot
Speaker 1: of little wrinkles and folds here. I thought of even like,
Speaker 1: it's not just veterans. I mean think of like, uh,
Speaker 1: when Ocho Sinko joined the Patriots and couldn't handle their playbook.
Speaker 1: You're gonna find out right away in August that a
Speaker 1: third of your team didn't study the playbook the way
Speaker 1: that you thought. And you're gonna have rookie running backs
Speaker 1: that you're going to find out in week one whether
Speaker 1: they can block a pass rusher coming in off the edge.
Speaker 1: Totally different. It's totally different season, and it just is.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be different. The NFL and the NFL p
Speaker 1: A made another move that's gonna have a big impact
Speaker 1: on the summer. They agreed to reduce the size of
Speaker 1: training camp rosters from ninety players to eighty. Rap Sheet
Speaker 1: reported this, and this is very bad news for undrafted
Speaker 1: free agents, guys that are just um make looking to
Speaker 1: make a market. Takes so many jobs during the training
Speaker 1: camp process out of play. So that's just another unfortunate byproduct.
Speaker 1: Like we're saying of this season is going to be different,
Speaker 1: and it's going to be a smaller group because they're
Speaker 1: trying to control this however they can. And just one
Speaker 1: other note h connected to COVID nineteen. The NFL p
Speaker 1: a UH reports that fifty nine players from the union
Speaker 1: have been tested as known positive for COVID nineteen. That
Speaker 1: is approximately two of the union's membership. I don't really
Speaker 1: know how to make heads or tails whether that's a
Speaker 1: lot or a little, but that's the number. Well, I
Speaker 1: think to make it clear, you know, players have not
Speaker 1: been tested, you know, in mass yet. So this is
Speaker 1: fifty nine players who had been tested you know, on
Speaker 1: their own volition throughout the off season in that march, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and no, they were positive. Andrew Whitworth is one of them.
Speaker 1: The Rams tackle and had a pretty you know, interesting story,
Speaker 1: you know, sad stories. His entire family had his his
Speaker 1: father in law was was really banged up, but he
Speaker 1: spoke about, um, the lethargy and the impact that it
Speaker 1: had on him, Um, you know, a guy who's over
Speaker 1: three hundred pounds, that it wasn't just a couple of
Speaker 1: day situation. And uh, we'll see when players report and
Speaker 1: then there's they're doing these mass testing. There was I
Speaker 1: think another thirty six NFL personnel, whether it's coaches or
Speaker 1: guys inside of building who also tested positive. So to me,
Speaker 1: that's a that's a relatively small number, I guess, And
Speaker 1: we're going to see what these numbers are like when
Speaker 1: when all the players start showing up. Yeah, I get
Speaker 1: a little more worried about, obviously the staff, because you've
Speaker 1: got a lot of coaches that are you know, not
Speaker 1: not in great health or of the right age to
Speaker 1: be in the right target to have Corona be left.
Speaker 1: You know, it's it's it can impact them a ton.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys saw this tweet from
Speaker 1: Eric Ebron, which I found, um mysterious. He said that,
Speaker 1: you know, he basically said, I'm mentally preparing myself not
Speaker 1: to see my family for six months. This is gonna
Speaker 1: be the hardest season ever if we have a whole season,
Speaker 1: And there was a little bit of speculation that there
Speaker 1: might be something bubbling up where the idea of well
Speaker 1: of a bubble is um like for certain teams might
Speaker 1: be in play. Um. I don't know what the tweet meant.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it meant simply that he's making
Speaker 1: a decision to not um engage with family members if
Speaker 1: he goes through with the season himself. But it gave
Speaker 1: me pause. The nfl p A on Wednesday revealed that
Speaker 1: eight teams have had their COVID nineteen pandemic protocols approved.
Speaker 1: UH Infectious Disease Emergency Response I d e er plans
Speaker 1: submitted by the Ravens, Bills, Panthers, Broncos, Lions, Texans, Chiefs,
Speaker 1: and Dolphins all approved by the union. Uh. There are
Speaker 1: twenty four more teams of course, UH that submitted plans.
Speaker 1: There are still under review as of midday Wednesday as
Speaker 1: we're taping right now. So that is another hurdle to
Speaker 1: get everybody into camp and get this thing rolling. But
Speaker 1: I have to say, over the last forty eight hours
Speaker 1: since we last did the podcast, overall, you you kind
Speaker 1: of feel good about the direction where things are heading.
Speaker 1: It went from last week this idea that all right,
Speaker 1: what's going on, the scramble, the players acting um, getting
Speaker 1: together and putting out that tweet and make making it
Speaker 1: known that they feel a little bit of confusion. It
Speaker 1: does feel like we're seeing some progress now towards the
Speaker 1: goal of the end of July. Yeah, doctor Sills, you know,
Speaker 1: the the NFL's really you know, leader on this issue,
Speaker 1: spoke to us, you know, we you know, as part
Speaker 1: of this summit yesterday. I feel the same way Dan
Speaker 1: that i'm you know, I'm I'm feeling more confident that, Okay,
Speaker 1: the procedures are in place to get this on ramping starting.
Speaker 1: I I do think that the uncertainties of what's actually
Speaker 1: gonna happen once all of this is going, you know,
Speaker 1: it's still weighs on me. But I do think the fact,
Speaker 1: you know, the steps that they're taking, and more importantly
Speaker 1: that the players and the union I think are I mean,
Speaker 1: the players in the league are agreeing on many issues,
Speaker 1: and the financials are still part of it, but it
Speaker 1: seems like that part of it's not gonna hold it up.
Speaker 1: I just I just don't know, because nobody does what
Speaker 1: it's all gonna live, you know. Look like because as
Speaker 1: you mentioned with eric by Brown, think okay, well, like
Speaker 1: of course, like I don't know if he was talking
Speaker 1: about maybe I don't know if he has kids and
Speaker 1: a wife, or he was talking about like his parents
Speaker 1: and in different members of fam because that's gonna be
Speaker 1: best practice for everyone. That's that's us too. I haven't
Speaker 1: seen my my family. I'm not you know, I haven't
Speaker 1: gotten you know, we haven't gotten on a plane and
Speaker 1: stuff like that, and that that's the case for a
Speaker 1: lot of people. And they're gonna be trying to encourage
Speaker 1: all of these players to keep their circle about as
Speaker 1: tight as possible. But but it's one thing doing that
Speaker 1: in a in a Disneyland bubble where you're literally not
Speaker 1: allowed to leave like the NBA, And it's another thing
Speaker 1: when it's fifty three active players all with tons totally
Speaker 1: different lives and mode ovations and things, and trying to
Speaker 1: keep that under control and that and that that part
Speaker 1: of it is just that we're just gonna have to
Speaker 1: find out. You know, we we we know. So you know,
Speaker 1: there are various assistant coaches out there that live vibrant
Speaker 1: on nightlives and um social lives of their own, so
Speaker 1: it's not just the players. And I mean, it's the
Speaker 1: kind of thing you could follow orders perfectly up through
Speaker 1: you know, late October. But then, like many people are
Speaker 1: feeling in general, like what do you do when you're
Speaker 1: just like, I've had enough of this and I have
Speaker 1: to go see people and do things. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: gonna require um to your point, Greg, that it's just
Speaker 1: such a different season, like a mental strength that you're
Speaker 1: not really asking anyone in the past to to to duplicate.
Speaker 1: It's completely new. But but I do think that I
Speaker 1: agree with you Dan, that there is an ounce of
Speaker 1: hope this week that I didn't feel a couple of
Speaker 1: weeks ago that that they that there I can I
Speaker 1: can see the season starting on time. Um I think
Speaker 1: that's been the goal. And I don't know what would
Speaker 1: get in the way of that other than a gigantic
Speaker 1: you know, bee hive exploding, a coronavirusploding. I think I
Speaker 1: think it's it's player is, you know, getting coronavirus in
Speaker 1: large quantities in these places where a lot of people
Speaker 1: are and you know, I think that that's what could
Speaker 1: do it. And and there really aren't answers yet about
Speaker 1: what what NFL teams are gonna do. What's the number
Speaker 1: of players that would have to have it where they
Speaker 1: just shut the whole thing down, you know, or you know,
Speaker 1: in terms of certain players on a position group where
Speaker 1: they shut it down, And those answers are moving targets.
Speaker 1: Even even the league would admit that there's not it's
Speaker 1: not that clear right now. And there was a coach
Speaker 1: also that said, what happens if like five defensive coaches
Speaker 1: get it, how do you because you know, you're all
Speaker 1: doing a ton of work, and how on game day,
Speaker 1: how would you coordinate that? So there it is, UM
Speaker 1: it is. It is nothing but Drens Frenston suspense start
Speaker 1: with wearing a mask, whether you're testing positive or negative,
Speaker 1: and uh, you imagine or you hope that's what's going
Speaker 1: to be happening inside these buildings when the coaches are
Speaker 1: working together. The NFL confirmed that masks will be mandatory
Speaker 1: fans are allowed in the stadium. Brian McCarthy, the VP
Speaker 1: of Communications for the league, UM used Twitter to make
Speaker 1: that official. Of course, the Jets and Giants announced on
Speaker 1: Monday there will be no fans at their home games
Speaker 1: at MetLife Stadium until further notice. Notice. Mark Davis and
Speaker 1: the Raiders, owner of the Raiders, said he's leaning towards
Speaker 1: not having fans attend games in the new stadium in Vegas.
Speaker 1: The Rams announced Tuesday that there will be limited or
Speaker 1: no capacity at SOFI Stadium filled out the Eagles UM
Speaker 1: the Philadelphia. Philadelphia city officials said last week that no
Speaker 1: fans would be allowed in the stands during Eagle games,
Speaker 1: but the next day the Mayor's office UH kept the
Speaker 1: door open that that could happen. But so as you
Speaker 1: can see, it's a team by team, state by state
Speaker 1: situation with fans being allowed. They have to wear masks
Speaker 1: and everyone should be wearing a mask, coaches, fans, players,
Speaker 1: come on now. But it's frustrating too because and I
Speaker 1: understand they're trying to announce things now because they sort
Speaker 1: of have to, but like the Falcons today, for instance,
Speaker 1: announced they're gonna allow I think twenty people and and
Speaker 1: and I know that could that could change, but Georgia
Speaker 1: is a mess. Georgia is a is a mess right now,
Speaker 1: and it just it seems a little crazy if if
Speaker 1: we're not in a different situation in September, and obviously
Speaker 1: everyone hopes that we are. That Okay, public schools are closed,
Speaker 1: like we're not safe enough to do public schools, which
Speaker 1: which makes sense, but we're we're cool with twenty people
Speaker 1: being indoors to watch a football d Yeah, it doesn't.
Speaker 1: It just doesn't. It doesn't line up. So so either
Speaker 1: so one of those two has to change, like either
Speaker 1: maybe the virus is in a better shape and in
Speaker 1: schools start opening up, or or the Falcons and teams
Speaker 1: like that are gonna have to change. So you're really
Speaker 1: telling me where that we think we're in a we're
Speaker 1: in a great enough place that have twenty thou people
Speaker 1: inside in inside of building concerts going on. I don't
Speaker 1: want to turn this into the politics podcast, but it's
Speaker 1: not probably science though. It's like when did some Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's well, I'm gonna agree with you on that. My
Speaker 1: point being that this whole situation has for a long time,
Speaker 1: to me anyway, cried out for leadership on the federal
Speaker 1: level and the fact that that has not been the case,
Speaker 1: and it's been left in the hands state by state basis,
Speaker 1: and some states are handling it well and some states
Speaker 1: are not handling it well. And that's why it's another
Speaker 1: kind of it's another obstacle and hurdle for professional sports
Speaker 1: teams because the leagues are trying to do their best
Speaker 1: to make this as safe as possible, but it's not
Speaker 1: the same playing field across the landscape of the league.
Speaker 1: It's been left to private businesses. You've seen Walmart and
Speaker 1: so many grocery stores being ahead of the government in
Speaker 1: in those southern states that they're making the decisions that
Speaker 1: you have to wear masks, whereas the governments are not
Speaker 1: like and and that's ultimately I guess what the NFL
Speaker 1: is kind of coming down to is that it's up
Speaker 1: to the private businesses. I mean, if you really want
Speaker 1: to strive for accuracy, you know, Madden one is rolling out.
Speaker 1: I I don't think that you put you know, you
Speaker 1: got you got the close ups on the head coach,
Speaker 1: and you got Adam Gaze strolling around on the sideline.
Speaker 1: I mean he should be in a mask on Madden one,
Speaker 1: just to really paint the picture of him, like, to
Speaker 1: really get the simulation correct. Am I wrong? And I've
Speaker 1: done some Madden UM broadcasts on Twitter. We have some
Speaker 1: some sway here potentially, like the idea, I like the
Speaker 1: idea of those Adam Gaze eyes darting all over the player,
Speaker 1: you know, the rest of the rest of his face
Speaker 1: covered up. Um, you know we have you know, Dan,
Speaker 1: if you have another point, I was gonna say, we
Speaker 1: have we have some breaking news. Yeah, let's go alright.
Speaker 1: Breaking news out of Minnesota. The Minnesota Vikings have reached
Speaker 1: an agreement on a multi year contract extension with coach
Speaker 1: Mike Zimmer. According to Tom Pella sera, who, by the way,
Speaker 1: he's kind of having a breakout off season himself. Tom
Speaker 1: pallisera been breaking a lot of news. He's tight with Zimmer.
Speaker 1: He breaks this story and uh, one of the one
Speaker 1: of the longest, one of the longest tenured coaches now
Speaker 1: in the league is Mike Zimmer even going into this season,
Speaker 1: which is crazy to think about, but he's going to
Speaker 1: be there a little while long. He's a good coach.
Speaker 1: He's a good coach, Mike Zimmer. They did a nice
Speaker 1: job there and they've had some stinkers along the way
Speaker 1: in Minnesota since Danny Green, who's fine, but Zimmer is
Speaker 1: the real deal. It's interesting to look for it to
Speaker 1: with like a lot of transition there on his defense
Speaker 1: to um, you know, kind of give him some faith
Speaker 1: and I think it's rewarded too. I agree. He's a
Speaker 1: good coach. He's sixty three years old. He's been there
Speaker 1: six seasons, compiled the winning Senator five if you can
Speaker 1: coach six ball games, fifty thirty eight and one. They
Speaker 1: have not yet, unless I am have they made it
Speaker 1: to the NFC title game yet? Yeah, against the Eagles
Speaker 1: when they got blasted. When they lose in the playoffs,
Speaker 1: they tend to lose hard. Yeah, But they also had
Speaker 1: a great win on the road before the Niners wiped
Speaker 1: him out in January. That was an awesome win for
Speaker 1: the organization to go to and take out the Saints,
Speaker 1: which are you know, we were talking about before that
Speaker 1: game that the Saints might have been the best three
Speaker 1: seat of all time and the Vikings UH kind of
Speaker 1: brought that conversation to a grinding halt. So sixty three
Speaker 1: years old, Mike Zimmer keeps the gig. He was the
Speaker 1: d C UH in Dallas for many years in the Auds,
Speaker 1: went to Cincinnati UH and for another five or six years.
Speaker 1: So this guy did fourteen years as a d C
Speaker 1: from two thousand to two thousand thirteen and now has
Speaker 1: made the most of his opportunity in Minnesota. The only
Speaker 1: time that I ever in my life spoke to Bill
Speaker 1: Parcels in person, um well, was was over a phone
Speaker 1: call on a George Zimmer feature and he was in
Speaker 1: a parking lot. He was very annoyed that I called.
Speaker 1: It was through Mike's right, right, Mike Zimmer. But Parcels
Speaker 1: fair um peaked that I had called him up on
Speaker 1: the phone at this point in his shopping. Um out
Speaker 1: in and he's like, all right, kid, you got one,
Speaker 1: you got five seconds. I'm like, all I'm forty three,
Speaker 1: so I'm not necessarily a child, but I feel like
Speaker 1: one right now. And I asked his Zimmer question and
Speaker 1: you fired off. I'm a very complimentary answer. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's said Bill Parcels protege, and I love that. I
Speaker 1: love that the Likings are doing this. I've always been
Speaker 1: a Zimmer fan. A lot of history here with Zimmer
Speaker 1: and Kubiak's coordinator. I mean this, this is Kubyak taking
Speaker 1: over the offense totally after last year sharing it with
Speaker 1: the fancy. It's it's an interesting crew with a lot
Speaker 1: of success and a lot of impressive lineage. You know,
Speaker 1: it's kind of like the old guy. You know, it's
Speaker 1: like the old guys. We're gonna take over this young
Speaker 1: league Kubik. That brings back memories Mark when I was
Speaker 1: a literal kid in the in the journalism industry. They
Speaker 1: sent me to cover a Mets Rockies mattenee at Old
Speaker 1: Shase Stadium and Clint Hurdle was the manager of the Rockies.
Speaker 1: And Clint Hurdle was a guy, a real man's man type,
Speaker 1: former player um and had a lifer in the game.
Speaker 1: And it was September of a season where both teams
Speaker 1: were playing out the string. The Mets almost had a
Speaker 1: no hitter that game. That game the picture, I can't
Speaker 1: remember who it was, Steve Traxxel maybe took a perfect
Speaker 1: game into the eighth inning, and the Rockies basically didn't
Speaker 1: show up. After the game, I go down to the
Speaker 1: locker room the clubhouse and Preston Wilson, who was a
Speaker 1: former Mets prospect who became a big star for the Rockies,
Speaker 1: didn't play that day. And I'm twenty three years old.
Speaker 1: And it makes all the sense of the world, once
Speaker 1: you understand baseball more that a veteran player in the
Speaker 1: middle of September, after a hundred and fifty games day game,
Speaker 1: after a night game, Preston got the day off on
Speaker 1: a getaway day or whatever it would have been. But
Speaker 1: I felt I had to get a question off for
Speaker 1: the manager, and I asked Clint Hurtle, you know Preston
Speaker 1: Wilson back in New York, what you know any reason
Speaker 1: why he wasn't in the lineup today? And he nearly built.
Speaker 1: He said, oh, is it okay if I give one
Speaker 1: of my guys the day off? Is that okay? You?
Speaker 1: Is that fine? And I'm like hammona hammina, and I
Speaker 1: sl I mean, yeah, you know what you got the
Speaker 1: but you got the best quote and the most interesting
Speaker 1: moment of that press conference. I bet, I bet I
Speaker 1: met people are writing about that response. It wasn't even
Speaker 1: the in the h like a press comment, was just
Speaker 1: kind of a gathering in the clubhouse, as I recall,
Speaker 1: and speaking of which, my other big time clash with
Speaker 1: someone in professional sports, Michael Bennett. It's not like a
Speaker 1: question that I asked him after the Seahawks Blue super
Speaker 1: Bowl forty nine against the Patriots, the Malcolm Butler game,
Speaker 1: and I asked Bennett, um, you know, just the vibe
Speaker 1: right after that play went down on the on the
Speaker 1: sideline and he made a derogatory comment about um my
Speaker 1: manhood and then said something about my wife, my wife
Speaker 1: the fugitive, and uh I remember being completely stopped my
Speaker 1: tracks that day as well. So Michael Bennett, who Yes,
Speaker 1: I I have been reading everywhere that he is, you know,
Speaker 1: the agent of change we all need, and what an
Speaker 1: incredible guy he was. But uh I was never the
Speaker 1: biggest Michael bennettan After that he retired announced his retirement
Speaker 1: on Tuesday after Yes, a very successful career for several teams.
Speaker 1: Michael Bennet, great player, not such a great moment for
Speaker 1: Bennett or myself after Super Bowl forty nine. We we create,
Speaker 1: we all contain multitudes, and uh yeah, that that apparently
Speaker 1: was a bad moment. And actually it's funny because I
Speaker 1: can think of some other moments after a loss, you know,
Speaker 1: where he's a he was a competitive guy where he
Speaker 1: did not handle um things well with reporters, so that
Speaker 1: that that happened to other times in his career. The
Speaker 1: interesting thing is that reporters love him in general too,
Speaker 1: So that's what I mean about the multitude is like
Speaker 1: a lot of them had very good, great relationships with him, um,
Speaker 1: great conversations with him about football and beyond. And it
Speaker 1: really is an interesting career because I think I think
Speaker 1: the Seahawks dynasty as great as they drafted or not dynasty,
Speaker 1: but their defense, to me was like kind of a
Speaker 1: defensive dynasty that those four years they had that dominant
Speaker 1: we haven't seen. I think it really happened. Like the
Speaker 1: most important day was the two days they signed Bennett
Speaker 1: and Cliff Ariel to like the cheapest best value contracts
Speaker 1: in in the last decade of free agency, two of
Speaker 1: them back to back, and Bennett ended up kind of
Speaker 1: going from a guy who was up and down in Tampa,
Speaker 1: but but pretty good, but was coming off a bad year,
Speaker 1: which is why why he was so cheap. They got
Speaker 1: those two guys and that really made them special, and
Speaker 1: those two they didn't get enough credit for it. And Bennett.
Speaker 1: Bennett's crazy because like he was the best player on
Speaker 1: their their defense for for parts of it, which is
Speaker 1: like he was the best player on one of the
Speaker 1: best defenses for parts of it. I'm not saying he
Speaker 1: had the best career, but like during stretches and certainly
Speaker 1: during some of those playoff runs, he was their best player.
Speaker 1: In Super Bowl loss, he had a great game in
Speaker 1: tremendous game that day that nobody remembers anything about that
Speaker 1: game but Malcolm Butler now, but uh yeah, that was
Speaker 1: another big performance by him. I think he had They
Speaker 1: had those two players for under nine million combined, which
Speaker 1: is incredible. I I thought that they resigned him again
Speaker 1: because it's like and then you're coming off the cheap DL,
Speaker 1: so you don't even get full value the next time.
Speaker 1: It works like that where they got him cheap again. Sorry,
Speaker 1: and kind of guy. It was a kind of guy
Speaker 1: that I think anyone would want his career. I mean,
Speaker 1: probably underrated through long stretches of it too, um, you know,
Speaker 1: blowing up guards. Uh, easy to easy to find him
Speaker 1: on the field because he's always moving around, an old
Speaker 1: school type player. You know, he had nine sacks in
Speaker 1: that final year with the Bucks before he went to Seattle.
Speaker 1: I mean, he stood out everywhere he went. And you know,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Dana, you had to run in with you did?
Speaker 1: Had you? Maybe if you had asked him a similar
Speaker 1: question or a question at all after they decimated pay
Speaker 1: Man even the Broncos, you would have fared better in
Speaker 1: your hole. Do you remember? But I couldn't remember the
Speaker 1: exact question. I mean, it wasn't like a Pulitzer Prize
Speaker 1: award winning question. I think it was just kind of
Speaker 1: asking him the you know, what was the vibe on
Speaker 1: the sideline, like right after the play? And and maybe
Speaker 1: that's a tough question to ask the guy shortly after
Speaker 1: the game, an hour after the game also, but I mean, listen,
Speaker 1: he was totally out of line with his response. Uh.
Speaker 1: And but at the same time, I I really don't
Speaker 1: like wish ill will of him. And and it is
Speaker 1: true that he's been he's he's been a guy that
Speaker 1: has been a fun guy to cover in the league.
Speaker 1: And also, um, it can be a difference maker um
Speaker 1: off the field now that he's a non player. Just
Speaker 1: you know that was It's also maybe a lesson in
Speaker 1: like the pitfalls of parachuting into coverage of teams. If
Speaker 1: you're a Seahawks beat writer, you probably know how to
Speaker 1: approach to Michael Bennett after a tough situation if you
Speaker 1: know him more. I didn't know him from Adam and
Speaker 1: so I went and just found the guy that had
Speaker 1: a smaller scrum around him and try to get a
Speaker 1: nice quote. Did not turn out to be a nice
Speaker 1: But if like Quint Hurdle like jumped out from behind,
Speaker 1: Michael Bennet was like, yeah, I know they're bad question,
Speaker 1: that would have been really weird. Uh it is. It's
Speaker 1: interesting to think back to the two thousand sixteen seventeen
Speaker 1: Michael Bennett kept sitting during the national anthem. Throughout it
Speaker 1: was interesting how Kaepernick and I know Kaepernick was first
Speaker 1: and so he cut. He kind of bore the weight
Speaker 1: of everything. But it was interesting how the kneeling, which
Speaker 1: was in theory supposed to be like showing more respect,
Speaker 1: ended up being like part of the story. No one
Speaker 1: ever cared that Michael Bennett did it throughout, Like he
Speaker 1: kept us sitting on the bench, but for whatever reason,
Speaker 1: like sitting on the bench didn't get didn't get the
Speaker 1: same like level of heat, uh that that Kaepernick did.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm um. All right, So there you go, happy
Speaker 1: trails to Michael Bennett. Maybe down the line we're gonna
Speaker 1: patch things up. He and I probably not. Well, it's
Speaker 1: probably happening work at NFL networking about three months. So
Speaker 1: you're gonna on the show, have him on the show.
Speaker 1: I'm sure you will. Well, we'll work it all out. Um,
Speaker 1: that's what's happening in the news. Talk come the other way. Six,
Speaker 1: I'm standing Jesus up. Next on the Wheel of Teams
Speaker 1: is the New York Jus, the German last season seven
Speaker 1: and nine head coach Adam's gaze, entering his second year
Speaker 1: and the man who will help guide us through Gang
Speaker 1: Green and it's always a tricky road through Gang Green.
Speaker 1: As a man who's been covering the team and around
Speaker 1: the team for years now from the New York Daily News,
Speaker 1: Minish Meadow, what's up? Manis welcome to me Around the
Speaker 1: NFL Podcast. Thanks for having me on. Guys, I appreciate it,
Speaker 1: you know, miniche I have to share I think I've
Speaker 1: shared the story with you, but I want to share
Speaker 1: it with the audience now. The first time that we
Speaker 1: ever met, it was years ago. I think it was
Speaker 1: at Radio Row and I was a fan of your
Speaker 1: work covering the Jets and I want to introduce myself
Speaker 1: to you, and Um, I saw you kind of across
Speaker 1: the room, and then I went up to you, and
Speaker 1: then you started following at the time the general manager
Speaker 1: of the Jets, Mike Tannenbaum, and you cornered Tannebaum and
Speaker 1: then just teed off on him for giving a he
Speaker 1: you he had given a scoop to another Beat reporter
Speaker 1: that you deserved. You thought you deserved because you were
Speaker 1: you have traveled down to the Super Bowl and this
Speaker 1: Beat reporter had not traveled and you were on fire
Speaker 1: about it. And that was the first time I ever
Speaker 1: saw him, Uh, And you were very nice when we spoke,
Speaker 1: but Mike Tanaba looked like a guy that had been uh,
Speaker 1: that had seen too much in war by the end
Speaker 1: of the conversation. I think that was actually after Tantabaum
Speaker 1: was fired and he had not spoken since he's fired,
Speaker 1: and then he spoke uh to somebody else after that,
Speaker 1: And yeah, I think keeing off on him is probably
Speaker 1: an accurate description of how that went. You're very considerate
Speaker 1: that here's the guy you know, at a low right now,
Speaker 1: it just lost his junior. Yeah. Well, you know, Mike
Speaker 1: and I have a really good relationship, so you know,
Speaker 1: it's water under the bridge. But I was, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: was a little bit upset at that that moment. So now,
Speaker 1: the Jets, the Jets beats wild. I do remember like
Speaker 1: going to scouting combines and this is like in the
Speaker 1: in the OTTs, like the mid to late OTTs, and
Speaker 1: the Jets beat was a little different. Like there there's
Speaker 1: some sharp elbows on the Jets beat. There was a
Speaker 1: lot of in fighting. There was a lot of people
Speaker 1: within the beat that like weren't talking to each other
Speaker 1: and had had major beef and Mini. What I found
Speaker 1: out was Minis was at the center of all. Greg,
Speaker 1: I can honestly tell you like that was probably like
Speaker 1: tight years ago. Uh, not much has changed, Okay, to
Speaker 1: be honest, what do you mean some of the you know,
Speaker 1: surrounding cast members have changed. But yeah, it's a very cutthroat,
Speaker 1: competitive environment. It's probably the best way to describe it.
Speaker 1: And you're still standing all these years later, Minisia. Let's
Speaker 1: let's talk about the Jets a little bit. Um. You
Speaker 1: know this is well, let's start here. Let's start at
Speaker 1: the head coach spot, because um, one thing that I
Speaker 1: do like about you on the beat, Manisha, is that
Speaker 1: you are not afraid uh to polarize Jets fans. Uh
Speaker 1: deliver opinions that are polarizing. And when Adam Gates was
Speaker 1: hired as the head coach, you wrote a column that
Speaker 1: was glowing. That's aid relaxed Jets fans, this is the
Speaker 1: guy you've been waiting for. He's not gonna take any
Speaker 1: trash from anyone. He's gonna guide this team back to prominence.
Speaker 1: I got the vibe by the end of the season
Speaker 1: based on some of your writing and some of your
Speaker 1: tweets that you kind of got off of the gays
Speaker 1: band wagon. Where do you stand on gays and and
Speaker 1: you think gays deserved the second year after the way
Speaker 1: things started in two thousand and nineteen. Well, I think
Speaker 1: that Adam Gays first and foremost, has a lot of
Speaker 1: good ideas, and obviously I didn't know him particularly well
Speaker 1: when the Jets hired him. But you know, speaking to
Speaker 1: people who have worked for him, played for him, uh,
Speaker 1: you will get uh, players and coaches and front office
Speaker 1: people that have been around him to tell you that
Speaker 1: he's not a dummy. So he he has a lot
Speaker 1: of good ideas swimming around in his head. What I
Speaker 1: think I discounted, what didn't give you know, enough importance
Speaker 1: to was his ability to lead and galvanize people, inspire people,
Speaker 1: and you really need that as a head coach. I
Speaker 1: don't think that he showed that very much at all
Speaker 1: last year. Not the most inspiring character. He's not really
Speaker 1: a leader of men. He didn't show that this past year.
Speaker 1: So now I marginalized that aspect of the job. I
Speaker 1: think after the Jets hired him, and I realized talking
Speaker 1: to people in the organization and in the locker room
Speaker 1: throughout the course of the year just how important that
Speaker 1: actually was and how he wasn't necessarily good at that
Speaker 1: part of the job. And then obviously the results speak
Speaker 1: for themselves. He was hired to bring the best out
Speaker 1: of Sam Darnald and to lift this offense by every
Speaker 1: objective measure. The offense was at best the same as
Speaker 1: it was the prior season, or you know, in all
Speaker 1: practical terms, probably worse than it was the year before
Speaker 1: by by virtually every statistical measure. Now, look, I'm extremely
Speaker 1: critical of Adam Gains. Everybody who follows the Jets is
Speaker 1: fully aware of that. I think if you just look
Speaker 1: at this objectively, he has been in the NFL for
Speaker 1: seventeen seasons, six different organizations, seventeen seasons. He's only been
Speaker 1: a part of a team with a winning record in
Speaker 1: four of those seventeen seasons. And in three of those
Speaker 1: four seasons that he has been part of a winning team,
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning has been his quarterback, so only one time
Speaker 1: in his career, one time in fourteen years as he's
Speaker 1: been a part of a winner. Now, he hasn't been
Speaker 1: a head coach, of course, in in that seventeen year period,
Speaker 1: He's only been an assistant coach, a coordinator, head coach
Speaker 1: at different times. But he's not associated with winning. He's
Speaker 1: not associated with a winning culture. And I think with
Speaker 1: that big of a sample size, as to tell you
Speaker 1: you know a little bit about who Adam Gates might
Speaker 1: be as a head coach, Yeah, I'll get some my
Speaker 1: Jets question in the second night. One of the first
Speaker 1: times that I met you, Minish was um at the combine,
Speaker 1: and you know, Rex Ryan was holding court back then,
Speaker 1: and I we are everyone in our podcast had just
Speaker 1: read Collision Low Crossers and we were slightly enamored with it.
Speaker 1: And I had one question of Rex Ryan, which was
Speaker 1: a hideously dumb question that to even lead, like lead
Speaker 1: to a news story. I asked him if he read
Speaker 1: the book, and he looked at me, looks through me,
Speaker 1: basically like he had no idea what I was talking about.
Speaker 1: And the news conference broke up and you turned to
Speaker 1: me and You're like, dude, he definitely did not read
Speaker 1: that book. So I was like, I just needed to
Speaker 1: ask me if you know everything? So I you know,
Speaker 1: and that's a million Jets coaches ago and I You've
Speaker 1: been through through so many things that sometimes I wonder
Speaker 1: why you don't just let's move to Kansas City and
Speaker 1: cover the Chiefs at this point, but he would. I know.
Speaker 1: When I look at Gays though, and Joe Douglas, I
Speaker 1: think the one thing the Jets should not lose no
Speaker 1: matter what happens this season from from what I see
Speaker 1: is Joe Douglas. I think you've got a great talent
Speaker 1: of evaluator there and um arising GM. Do you do
Speaker 1: Adam Gaze and Joe Douglas. Do they like each other?
Speaker 1: Can they get along? Yeah? I think, uh, do they
Speaker 1: like each other. They've they've known each other for a
Speaker 1: few years, and they're not as close as what I
Speaker 1: think was portrayed when Joe Douglas was hired. They had
Speaker 1: worked together for one season in Chicago. The jury is
Speaker 1: still out on Joe Douglas. You know, you have to
Speaker 1: be fair to him. I don't want to say he's,
Speaker 1: you know, the next, uh the superstar general manager. And
Speaker 1: I also don't want to say he's a flop because
Speaker 1: for all intents and purposes, he's really been on the
Speaker 1: job for only one year. He's been in charge of
Speaker 1: only one draft. He's made some changes this offseason, but
Speaker 1: we're not going to know that those are the right changes.
Speaker 1: We just know that, you know, he shuffled the deck.
Speaker 1: We don't really know if the pieces he brought in
Speaker 1: are going to be more effective than the pieces that
Speaker 1: they already had on board. What I can tell you
Speaker 1: that Joe Douglas is that, uh, you know, he has
Speaker 1: made one prior you know, prior to this free agency,
Speaker 1: he had made one significant personnel move, and that was
Speaker 1: bringing Ryan Khalil right before training camp began, you know,
Speaker 1: former Pro Bowl center who had retired. He brought him
Speaker 1: in and that was a terrible decision in hindsight, that
Speaker 1: was a flop of a decision. So let's be fair.
Speaker 1: It's not like he has turned everything to gold. But
Speaker 1: you know, you want to be fair in that you
Speaker 1: want to give him an opportunity to show everybody that
Speaker 1: the guys he drafted this offseason and some of the
Speaker 1: free agents that he brought in this offseason can actually
Speaker 1: help towards the greater goal of turning this franchise around.
Speaker 1: I don't know what Joe Douglas is. I know he
Speaker 1: came from a couple of good the organizations in Philadelphia
Speaker 1: and in Baltimore. That doesn't necessarily mean anything other than
Speaker 1: he was surrounded by some good people. Whether he can
Speaker 1: succeed in the big chair is tp did well and
Speaker 1: whether he gets a chance. I mean, one of the
Speaker 1: reasons we were you know, guy was critical um of
Speaker 1: how that all went down, Like a lot of people
Speaker 1: was just you know, wanting and the Jets have been
Speaker 1: through this so many times of having the coach and
Speaker 1: the g M aligns, and I think that's an open question,
Speaker 1: and we're gonna we're gonna wrap up our conversation with
Speaker 1: Jets ownership and what's in the news today with Woody
Speaker 1: Johnson um, which I think is gonna hang over a lot,
Speaker 1: including Joe Douglas and Adam Gaze, because if if there's
Speaker 1: turmoil uh in the coaching staff or in the front
Speaker 1: office or you know, up to ownership, then that everyone's
Speaker 1: job suddenly become a little more precarious. And I think
Speaker 1: when I think of Gaze too, to go back to
Speaker 1: what we started, I think, if Gaye makes Sam Donald
Speaker 1: better in or they work together really well and Sam
Speaker 1: Donald plays well, then Gaze is fine. Then then like
Speaker 1: that's why Gaze is there. And if not, then then
Speaker 1: the lack of the leadership that that you talked about
Speaker 1: comes more into play. Then all the off field stuff
Speaker 1: that I'm talking about in terms of turmoil comes into play,
Speaker 1: because hey, you don't have to be you know, have
Speaker 1: a lot of raw ross speeches if you're actually giving
Speaker 1: your players like schematic advantages. We just haven't seen that
Speaker 1: certainly in the year that Donald had with Gaze, I
Speaker 1: guess i'd ask you watching them closely, like how much
Speaker 1: of that do you put on Donald? How much on Gaze?
Speaker 1: And like what are your your ho for for that
Speaker 1: relationship looking better? You know on the field this year? Well, Greg, look,
Speaker 1: I am a big believer in Sam Donald. I don't
Speaker 1: think Sam Donald's gonna magically transformed into Aaron Rodgers in
Speaker 1: one but he has the raw skill, the physical talent,
Speaker 1: and he has the mental makeup to be a difference
Speaker 1: making player in this league. Whether that means it will, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, manifests itself in or next year or the
Speaker 1: year after that, I don't know. He's an extremely young player.
Speaker 1: He's younger than Joe Burrow. So this is a very
Speaker 1: young player. Who don't you think don't you think he
Speaker 1: asked you this year for Gaze's sake at least, just
Speaker 1: to bring it back to gays a little bit. No, No, absolutely,
Speaker 1: I think if there's anybody on the quote unquote hot
Speaker 1: seat when you're talking about the quarterback or the head coach,
Speaker 1: it's absolutely the head coach, because as you said, he
Speaker 1: was hired specifically to bring the best out or Donald
Speaker 1: relatively quickly, and even though Donald made some incremental improvement
Speaker 1: last year, it wasn't that significant jump that I think
Speaker 1: a lot of Jet fans at Hope, especially when you
Speaker 1: look at recent history, whether it was Carson Wentz, Jared Goff,
Speaker 1: even Mitchell Trabinsky, when they got that new head coach
Speaker 1: in that first year together, there was a significant progress,
Speaker 1: and you didn't see that with Donald. I don't use
Speaker 1: the Mono nucleosis as a as an excuse because the
Speaker 1: first game that Donald came back after missing three games
Speaker 1: with Mono, he was the a f C Offensive Player
Speaker 1: of the Week, you know, win against the Cowboys. And
Speaker 1: the last five weeks might have been worse than the
Speaker 1: first five weeks, to which I think gets lost a little. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I just think that with Donald you need to bring
Speaker 1: out consistency. He is an inconsistent player. He makes some
Speaker 1: incredibly great decisions and and and plays that a much
Speaker 1: older player can make, and then at the same time
Speaker 1: the home make a bone headed mistake. It is incumbent
Speaker 1: upon not only him, of course, but the head coach,
Speaker 1: his tutor is his teacher to bring out that consistency.
Speaker 1: And that's why it's such a pivotal year for Adam Gates,
Speaker 1: because you know, I know we're gonna talk about the
Speaker 1: ownership a little bit later. But what Johnson did not
Speaker 1: hire Adam Gates, He did not hire Joe Douglas either.
Speaker 1: That he signed off on both those guys. But this
Speaker 1: was predominantly a Christopher Johnson production. He's the one who
Speaker 1: hired Adam Gates, and for all intents and purposes, Adam
Speaker 1: Gates is the one who hired Joe Douglas. Christopher Johnson
Speaker 1: signed off on it. But whatdy Johnson has no ties
Speaker 1: to either guy. That being said, there is a financial
Speaker 1: component when it comes to Joe Douglas that can't be discounted.
Speaker 1: He signed a six year contract. I do not believe
Speaker 1: that ownership is gonna be willing to eat three four
Speaker 1: years of his contracts. So I think if there's anybody
Speaker 1: who's on relatively firm footing one, it's Joe Douglas, not
Speaker 1: Adam Gates. Because in theory, you get rid of Adam
Speaker 1: and Gates if they're unsuccessful this season, and then you
Speaker 1: will allow Joe Douglass to hire his own head coach.
Speaker 1: And then at that point, Joe Douglas and the new
Speaker 1: head coach are tied to the hip. Uh and then uh,
Speaker 1: you know, two or three years down the road, if
Speaker 1: things don't work out, you move on. But I don't
Speaker 1: think that Joe Douglas is any kind of real jeopardy
Speaker 1: of losing his job this year. I cannot say the
Speaker 1: same for Adam Gates. I mean, counterpoint the news. You
Speaker 1: could always bring the glacier back into the building and
Speaker 1: reignite what was a magical period for the organization. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't think that John Nazek is going to be
Speaker 1: the general manager for the Jets. I don't actually think
Speaker 1: that John Nazic will get a second opportunity to be
Speaker 1: a general manager anywhere. Just checking all right, Minish. You
Speaker 1: know I'm a Jets fan, so I'm gonna paint the
Speaker 1: optimistic viewpoint for the upcoming season. Donald does get better,
Speaker 1: the offensive line improves, Uh, Perryman's the real deal, Min's
Speaker 1: MIM's gives you something. Herndon back in the picture at
Speaker 1: the tight end position. The offense is league average at worst,
Speaker 1: let's put it league average. The defense, which people kind
Speaker 1: of slept on a little bit last year with a
Speaker 1: lot of injuries. Greg Williams coached that team up. That
Speaker 1: was a great defense against the run, and with C. J.
Speaker 1: Mosley back, I think it's only going to get better.
Speaker 1: You see some issues in the secondary, but I just
Speaker 1: I trust Greg Williams to get this defense continue keeping
Speaker 1: them in the right direction. If Donald does make that leap,
Speaker 1: the offense does become respectable and the defense could be
Speaker 1: hovering in that top ten range. Why can't they be
Speaker 1: in the hunt for a playoff spot this year? Well?
Speaker 1: I think, well, well, Dan, if they had the same
Speaker 1: schedule as they did a year ago in which they
Speaker 1: played the world schedule right this, I mean this year
Speaker 1: they're playing the a f C West and the NFC West,
Speaker 1: it did dauntake schedule, not only for them obviously, also
Speaker 1: for Buffalo and also for the Patriots as well. I
Speaker 1: think that schedule makes it very difficult for them too,
Speaker 1: you know, unless everything goes right for them to be
Speaker 1: a viable playoff contender. If they were playing a week schedule,
Speaker 1: at least on paper, I think there's a possibility. All
Speaker 1: of that being said, uh, if the offense is respectable
Speaker 1: and the defense, you know, maintains what they did a
Speaker 1: year ago, maybe gets a little bit better and they
Speaker 1: finish you nine and seven, maybe eight and eight somewhere
Speaker 1: in that neighborhood, then I guess that's mark. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: guess that's a check mark. That being said, if that
Speaker 1: does happen, if they do finish eight in eight or
Speaker 1: nine and seven, they would miss the playoffs for ten
Speaker 1: consecutive years. There's only two teams, Cleveland and Tampa, that
Speaker 1: has missed the postseason longer than the Jets. So how
Speaker 1: much longer do you wait? I know this is not
Speaker 1: all of Adam Gas or Joe Douglas, but at the
Speaker 1: same time, at some point, if your ownership, you do
Speaker 1: have to hold some of these key decision bakers account. Well,
Speaker 1: they keep doing that and they keep keep getting fired.
Speaker 1: And that's I mean, they have the they have the
Speaker 1: second worst record in the NFL in the last five years.
Speaker 1: I mean, they are one of the worst teams and
Speaker 1: I and I do think that that that there there
Speaker 1: is a case to be made of them winning eight
Speaker 1: or nine games, But there's also a case we made
Speaker 1: there one of the two or three worst rosters, you know,
Speaker 1: just talent in terms of depth wise in the league.
Speaker 1: And so I think it will take Donald and I
Speaker 1: think Donald has a chance to do it. They just
Speaker 1: stepping up and carrying them. Speaking of ownership, so Woody
Speaker 1: Johnson bought the team UH in two thousand, two thousand sixteen,
Speaker 1: Donald Trump was elected president. Two thousand seventeen, Woody Johnson
Speaker 1: takes over as the ambassador UH to the UK in
Speaker 1: Trump's administration. Christopher Johnson, his brother, becomes acting owner and
Speaker 1: then the report comes out today CNN reports the Jets
Speaker 1: owner Woody Johnson was investigated by the State Department for
Speaker 1: alleged racist and sexist remarks. There was also a report
Speaker 1: in The New York Times connected to Donald Trump UH
Speaker 1: asking Woody Johnson to try to push to get the
Speaker 1: British Open played on a Trump golf course and what
Speaker 1: he went along with it, and that led to some waves.
Speaker 1: So obviously some bad press and some disturbing allegations around
Speaker 1: Jets ownership. What are you hearing on this? Oh, looky,
Speaker 1: anytime you've got alleged to racist and sensist remarks, Uh,
Speaker 1: you know that's not something that should be taken lately.
Speaker 1: It's significant. Uh, you know my understanding you said Jets
Speaker 1: actually did it an internal investigation back in two gas
Speaker 1: and in in seventeen, Uh, when there was some some issues
Speaker 1: with Woody johnson social media posts that dealt with sexual conduct.
Speaker 1: The team actually scrubbed some of those posts after doing
Speaker 1: their internal investigation with their I T. Department. Uh, it's
Speaker 1: not a good look. That that's you know, that's the
Speaker 1: preliminary part of it. We'll find out obviously more, I
Speaker 1: think in the coming days and weeks. The Jets as
Speaker 1: of right now, having commented on the situation, the NFL
Speaker 1: is kind of just said, you know, we're gonna refer
Speaker 1: to what the state department has said, so they didn't
Speaker 1: say much. Uh. You know, either it's deserving, it's it's
Speaker 1: also eye opening. I think when you're your best player
Speaker 1: and in this case, Jamoral Adams comes out against the
Speaker 1: owner and says, you know, right is rights, wrong is wrong,
Speaker 1: This is unacceptable. I'm pretty sure. In fact, I know
Speaker 1: that he's not alone in his thinking. He's the only one, however,
Speaker 1: to this point has come out publicly and uh, you know,
Speaker 1: voice his displeasure at this report. I know that there
Speaker 1: are other players, other people in that organization weren't particularly
Speaker 1: pleased with Woody Johnson. Uh, you know, not a good look.
Speaker 1: I don't know what's ultimately going to become of this,
Speaker 1: but I do know that there were concerns in the
Speaker 1: organization as far back as uh three years ago, which
Speaker 1: they had to actually scrub some off a social media
Speaker 1: post because they're probably not something that you know, the
Speaker 1: organization wanted out there. Well, this is something the players
Speaker 1: can have their voice heard, and I think that's where
Speaker 1: I'm watching this story, and it shouldn't be on them, um,
Speaker 1: you know, to be making change on their own that
Speaker 1: that shouldn't be their responsibility. But I think if their voices,
Speaker 1: if they do speak loudly and unified like that, that's
Speaker 1: gonna have a real impact, as it should, and with
Speaker 1: everything that's gone on this summer, it'll be it's hard
Speaker 1: to know where this goes, but it'll be interesting to
Speaker 1: see how the NFL is a league, respond to that
Speaker 1: because ultimately it's their owner, you know, it's their team, right.
Speaker 1: I completely agree. What I will say is that prior
Speaker 1: to all of this servicing, uh, you know, I was
Speaker 1: under the impression that Foody Johnson was coming back to
Speaker 1: the United States. Regardless of what the electional results, We're
Speaker 1: gonna be whether Donald Trump got reelected or not if
Speaker 1: he if he weren't really elected, obviously, uh, the new
Speaker 1: president would appoint his own ambassador. But you know, my
Speaker 1: understanding was that even if Donald Trump were re elected,
Speaker 1: that Woody would come back. It wasn't set in stone necessarily,
Speaker 1: but that was, you know, that the vibe that I've
Speaker 1: gotten all along over the last several months. But the
Speaker 1: question now becomes when he ultimately does come back. But
Speaker 1: what does the NFL do? Is there any kind of punishment?
Speaker 1: Is it slap on the wrist? Is it you know,
Speaker 1: is it severe? But I think it is particularly eye
Speaker 1: opening when players speak out because, uh, you know, I
Speaker 1: I don't know if these allega sas are true or not,
Speaker 1: but all I can say is that after reading the story,
Speaker 1: uh that both the racist and the sexist element of
Speaker 1: this story was particularly disturbing. And I don't mean to
Speaker 1: make any kind of political statement, because I don't think
Speaker 1: this is about politics, but some of the stuff that
Speaker 1: was alleged in that story is you know, pretty disturbing
Speaker 1: at least from more I stand. I mean, it does
Speaker 1: nothing to healthy Let's keep Jamal Adams in a Jets
Speaker 1: uniform for life campaign that summer attempting to run. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that that whole negotiation, uh has been a fiasco for
Speaker 1: a number of different reasons. It's it's really unfortunate. It's
Speaker 1: it's strange. To be perfectly honest with you, this is
Speaker 1: an organization that doesn't get dynamic players very often. They
Speaker 1: don't have superstar players very often. In fact, I think
Speaker 1: it's fair to say that the last home grown superstar
Speaker 1: player that the Jets hire prior to Jamal Adams was
Speaker 1: Darrell Reavis, and that was namely a decade ago. And
Speaker 1: the idea that the Jets have bungled this situation in
Speaker 1: the fashion that they have, and believe me when I
Speaker 1: tell you that they have that. I know that. You know,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of strong opinions on both sides, people
Speaker 1: you know, signing with the organization, people signing with the player.
Speaker 1: But based on the information that I have over what
Speaker 1: is transpired in the past six or seven months, it's
Speaker 1: a it's it's incredible that the Jets would allow certain
Speaker 1: things to have gone on. Uh. You know, in these
Speaker 1: quote unquote negotiations which really weren't negotiations at all. The
Speaker 1: fun ride never ends. I've said it many times before.
Speaker 1: It to my uh, no, Greg's like, I love it
Speaker 1: so No, I'm just this is the time of year,
Speaker 1: this is your time of year for the optimism, but
Speaker 1: it's getting cut a little short right now. Uh No,
Speaker 1: I still think this could be a fun season for
Speaker 1: the Jets. I I do think, though. It does remind
Speaker 1: me that I'm just happy that I'm a Yankees fan,
Speaker 1: because I couldn't deal with it if it was if
Speaker 1: I was the Jets Mets Nick's Islanders fan. I needed
Speaker 1: to break that up. So casey, our buddy, you just
Speaker 1: animed his four favorite teams. There you go, Niche, you
Speaker 1: said it all. Hey, July one, Jamal Adams a member
Speaker 1: of the Jets. I think, uh god, that's such a
Speaker 1: good question. I would say, no, okay, well we'll bring
Speaker 1: it back and they'll talk about how you were wrong.
Speaker 1: And hey, I love covering Jamal. If you know, I
Speaker 1: would love to come to Jamal for the next decade.
Speaker 1: He's one of the most genuine people I've covered in
Speaker 1: my career. And this notion that, uh you know, he's
Speaker 1: a selfish guy who wants money. I can tell you
Speaker 1: if you talk to players in that organization and coaches
Speaker 1: in that organization, they wish that there could be fifty
Speaker 1: to Jamal Adams. It would make for a loud locker room.
Speaker 1: But he is all about football. He cares about his teammates.
Speaker 1: Nobody in that organization works harder and nobody cares more
Speaker 1: about one. I mean, he's tech clean, the Patriots mascot. Please.
Speaker 1: Of course he's important to the organization. So yeah, well
Speaker 1: it's pretty it's pretty pathetic. It's gone to his point
Speaker 1: with him, Manisha Meta follow him on Twitter, uh and
Speaker 1: read all of his NFL coverage and Jets coverage on
Speaker 1: the Daily News. Thank you very much, Bud. What a
Speaker 1: day to have him on. I mean, he had some
Speaker 1: good insight on all the Jets issues, but the ownership,
Speaker 1: but certainly the Jamal stuff. Heavy hitter and Dan, you
Speaker 1: know you mentioned. By the way, that doesn't mean I
Speaker 1: just that doesn't mean he's right, by the way, I don't.
Speaker 1: We can't. We can't sit and talk with Manish for
Speaker 1: three hours. I I continue to believe the Jets have
Speaker 1: been in the right in letting this play out a
Speaker 1: little bit and letting it breathe. And I believe you
Speaker 1: were in the same camp as well. I understand Greg,
Speaker 1: I understand that, um, where where he's coming from. Nish
Speaker 1: though that the Jets aren't a team that come into
Speaker 1: game changing superstars. So don't mess this up. Do not
Speaker 1: let him get out of the building over a petty
Speaker 1: disagreement that turns into something bigger. I still have I
Speaker 1: I still have hope that come this time next year
Speaker 1: he's under terms. Um. But you know it's with the Jets,
Speaker 1: it's never it's it seems like it's never simple. It
Speaker 1: just never is well. I mean the Woody Johnson thing
Speaker 1: does not help. That is a fresh wrench in the
Speaker 1: works potentially, so TV his voice so many you know,
Speaker 1: having the relationships that it does, it does, it does
Speaker 1: carry weight with me that like he knows you know,
Speaker 1: he knows the negotiations. What do I know? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: Well that was the Pulitzer Prize winning question that you mentioned.
Speaker 1: Think they don't have they don't get the benefited doubt
Speaker 1: because they're losers, because they lose so much, you know,
Speaker 1: they don't get the benefited out. That's it. I think
Speaker 1: that's why a lot of people who study the game
Speaker 1: are doubting Sam Donald on some level, because they connect
Speaker 1: him to the Jets, a team where it usually doesn't
Speaker 1: work out for the quarterback. I just think every situation,
Speaker 1: ultimately though, should be judged separately. Um, and I just
Speaker 1: hope eventually they figure out how to get this organization
Speaker 1: running well. Uh It's it's very difficult, and it is
Speaker 1: when things like what popped up today now with Christopher Johnson,
Speaker 1: its just it just never seems excuse me, Woody Johnson,
Speaker 1: it just never seems to end. There always seems to
Speaker 1: be something new around the corner. Um, So Jets fans
Speaker 1: hanging there. Let's hope that uh Donald is the real deal,
Speaker 1: because if he can play, that will help a lot.
Speaker 1: But as far as off the field, he really is.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's I and I I understand
Speaker 1: you could why he's so interesting to me. It's like
Speaker 1: he's a raw shard test where you you could look
Speaker 1: at it from either perspective and see, oh, this guy
Speaker 1: is clearly showing signs that he's not going to be
Speaker 1: the guy. But then if you want to study other way,
Speaker 1: other angles on Donald, you can see, all right, there's
Speaker 1: something there in the second half of the season. Even
Speaker 1: when you look at the numbers, Greg, you mentioned his
Speaker 1: last five games, we're uh concerning, but there were other numbers.
Speaker 1: You looked at the last eight games of the season,
Speaker 1: their offense was kind of middle of the pack, and
Speaker 1: he had a top ten UM figures in some of
Speaker 1: his passing statistics. Um, we'll get into it on Friday's
Speaker 1: uh Friday's eight t NFL broadcast. We got a whole
Speaker 1: segment about Donald. But he is interesting to me because
Speaker 1: he's the type of quarterback I usually fall for and
Speaker 1: I like more than I should um despite some evidence.
Speaker 1: So I did go back. I'm writing about all these
Speaker 1: young quarterbacks at some point I went back and and
Speaker 1: watched and and and we'll talk about it Friday. But
Speaker 1: I think the thing with him is he's been he's
Speaker 1: been making similar mistakes since he started, and they're kind
Speaker 1: of there. You know, a lot of it is just,
Speaker 1: you know, they're not ready for blitz is coming. And
Speaker 1: and that's coaching too, Like it's a lot of rookie
Speaker 1: stuff where like everything is going so fast and they
Speaker 1: don't know how to handle it. The problem is the
Speaker 1: coaching isn't isn't leaving either, So it's like that that
Speaker 1: that needs to be that needs to be buttoned up
Speaker 1: because he hasn't he hasn't showed enough of like what's
Speaker 1: gonna make up for that? You know, he hasn't had
Speaker 1: been as creative, Like, he hasn't had as much um
Speaker 1: creativity making plays kind of on his own that you
Speaker 1: would that you would expect. Basically, that's I mean that
Speaker 1: I hear you, and I find him to be a
Speaker 1: mixture of an enigma, but also as you say, fascinating.
Speaker 1: But he played behind a shattered offensive line, and I
Speaker 1: mean Mono is not I know, it became this like
Speaker 1: ridiculous sort of gag and everyone made fun of it
Speaker 1: and the graphic that was on Monday Night Football. But look,
Speaker 1: I mean Mono depletes the body, It takes muscle mass away,
Speaker 1: it leaves you exhausted for weeks, and then he's suddenly
Speaker 1: thrown back into an offense. For Levan Bell is not
Speaker 1: living up to the billion on any level, and you're
Speaker 1: getting destroyed behind a bottom five offensive line. I'd love
Speaker 1: to see Donald in a more functional setting before we
Speaker 1: cast the die on the of course, of course, that's
Speaker 1: why I think he has top five upside and like
Speaker 1: a pretty big disappointment downside, which is like that's that's
Speaker 1: a huge, huge gap. I totally agree. I agree. I
Speaker 1: agree with you on that, and Jets fans believe in Donald.
Speaker 1: I don't think any doubt has crept in with him.
Speaker 1: Gaze is a whole other story. And Mnisha, I'm happy
Speaker 1: he came on the show. But Mnish thrives on that
Speaker 1: dissension and the doubt and the doom and gloom around
Speaker 1: the Jets. It sells papers and uh and you, I mean,
Speaker 1: I just I guess my point of view is there
Speaker 1: is there are some rays of sunshine if you want
Speaker 1: to try to be the optimistic Jets fan, which isn't
Speaker 1: easy to do amidst all the clouds and the thunder
Speaker 1: clouds rolling in. I I will see how it all
Speaker 1: turns out. Every year, I feel this way that this
Speaker 1: could be the year they get it back on track.
Speaker 1: But you know, two thousand to two thousand ten, under
Speaker 1: the Woody Johnson regime, they were one of the more
Speaker 1: competitive teams in the a f C. But the last
Speaker 1: ten years has been a nightmare. I always think, I
Speaker 1: always think about the timing. It's it's such a sliding
Speaker 1: doors moment when Leon Hess, their former owner past, because
Speaker 1: if that didn't happen, Belichick would have been the Jets
Speaker 1: coach and I don't know what Belichick would have done
Speaker 1: with with Leon Hess And I guess I don't know
Speaker 1: that for sure. Who knows if the Parcels thing parcel
Speaker 1: Belichick's big thing was I'm not you know, he was.
Speaker 1: He was close with Leon Hess and he he's quoted
Speaker 1: is I'm not gonna work for that guy, you know,
Speaker 1: and it whatef for whatever reason whatever did the on
Speaker 1: wrote ramping with the ownership change rubbed Belichick the wrong
Speaker 1: white and it's just like that was it was just
Speaker 1: the forks in the road moment. Whereas he was, he
Speaker 1: was tight. Like the Parcels love Test. Belichick loved Test
Speaker 1: and it was just a different it was a different thing.
Speaker 1: He learned that in Cleveland with Darte Modele. He came
Speaker 1: out of there with a mantra that he would never
Speaker 1: coach as a head coach under an owner that he didn't,
Speaker 1: you know, completely trust and believe in. So that hideous
Speaker 1: how he was Jets coach for what about uh eight
Speaker 1: hours or eight minutes something like that, he resigned an
Speaker 1: HC of the n Y g J. And it should
Speaker 1: be during during that time of transition from the late
Speaker 1: Leon Hess. When the Jets were looking for new ownership,
Speaker 1: it came down to two people, Lady Johnson of the
Speaker 1: Johnson and Johnson family and James Dolan Cable Vision, who
Speaker 1: bought the Knicks and is arguably the most hated owner
Speaker 1: in the history of New York sports. Maybe not even arguably,
Speaker 1: So you know, just another chapter, all right, good stuff.
Speaker 1: I still believe. I say, nine and seven and I
Speaker 1: think Donald's got a Pro Bowl coming soon. Pro Bowl
Speaker 1: doesn't matter whatever, you know what I mean, It's gonna
Speaker 1: be good. Nine and seven is optimistic. Nine and seven
Speaker 1: might win the a f C East, Seven and nine
Speaker 1: last might win it out right. I don't know if
Speaker 1: anyone's getting in. Yeah, I don't. I don't put too
Speaker 1: much into it because the schedule was soft, but they
Speaker 1: went six and two in the second half of last year. Right,
Speaker 1: everyone's gonna get mad. It's like, oh, you gave the
Speaker 1: Jets too much time. Calm down, just forty minutes, just
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Speaker 1: original stuff. So check it out if you haven't already,
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Speaker 1: At some point we're gonna be going back to three
Speaker 1: times a week on the Audio show. So the boys
Speaker 1: we have too, and Ricky we have to uh put
Speaker 1: our heads together and figure out when we're switching over.
Speaker 1: I guess some of that's gonna connect with what happens
Speaker 1: with training camps in the NFL. Well they're starting. There's
Speaker 1: so much better off season. This was I feel refreshed
Speaker 1: and ready to go. All right, that's it. This is
Speaker 1: Dan Hanson signing off four Quiet Storm. The Mailman, Oh
Speaker 1: not the mailman, but we wish the Mailman was here
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