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Speaker 3: All right, carries so much stuff.

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Speaker 4: Great Sunday night football game, the Bears who had a

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Speaker 4: chance to win the game on the last play and

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Speaker 4: just fell short, and the forty nine Ers and the

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Speaker 4: incredible and so of course everybody because the forty nine

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Speaker 4: ers won, all the love is going to Kyle Shanahan, right,

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Speaker 4: the winner.

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Speaker 3: I get all that.

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, look at all the injuries, Look at

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Speaker 4: where they are they're going. They have a chance to

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Speaker 4: stay home and have the whole run to the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 4: And then the Super Bowl, of course is at home,

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Speaker 4: is in San Francisco, so they really have a chance

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Speaker 3: Finally, Kyle Shanahan has been there.

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Speaker 4: Twice lost lost as an offensive coordinator with the Falcons.

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Speaker 4: Just he was a terrible job at finishing that game

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Speaker 3: Throwing the ball.

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Speaker 4: Got sacked, a holding, got knocked out of field goal range,

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Speaker 4: terrible finish, a terrible like I'd have nightmares if I

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Speaker 4: was the offensive coordinator after that. But I'm not gonna

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Speaker 4: got no love for Kyle Shanahan zero. And what I

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Speaker 4: mean by that is he's got to finish the job

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Speaker 4: and win a super Bowl. We've seen this movie, winning

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Speaker 3: This is not like new Oh my god, how do

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Speaker 4: Doesn't matter who's a quarterback, right, it seems like his

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Speaker 4: And so they've been to two Super bowl The time

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Speaker 4: for Kyle Shanahan is can he can he run a team?

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Speaker 4: Finish strong and rob g He has some terrible numbers

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Speaker 3: Rob g just just throw these.

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Speaker 3: Oh it's tough.

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Speaker 5: If you're a Niners fan, turn your volume down because

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Speaker 5: this is gonna get real dark, real quickly.

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Speaker 3: Guys.

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Speaker 5: There have been seven teams that have given up a

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Speaker 5: ten plus point lead in the Super Bowl. Kyle Shanahan's

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Speaker 5: teams have lost three of those games, either as the

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Speaker 5: head coach or is the OC, of course, twenty eight

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Speaker 5: to three, the largest blown lead in Super Bowl history.

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Speaker 3: Twenty eight to three.

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Speaker 5: He's blown two separate ten point leads as the head

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Speaker 3: Guys. Between the three Super Bowls.

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Speaker 5: That Kyle Shanner has been a part of, two as

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Speaker 3: Did you hear that?

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Speaker 6: I did fifty eight to twelve in winning time, fifty

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Speaker 4: And that's why I've refused to give him a parade.

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Speaker 4: doing any of that about Oh, look at what Kyle Shanahan,

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Speaker 4: he's a GENIU. No, Nope, go win the Super Bowl,

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Speaker 4: Go finish it?

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Speaker 6: Am I a little too tall? No, you've been fair.

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Speaker 3: Like people don't even understand.

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Speaker 4: Like I said all the time, he didn't leave because

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Speaker 6: No, this team with Mike Shanahan, he has to win

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Speaker 6: Man, it's it's time and this is the thing Rob

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Speaker 6: because this team isn't This team isn't scary when you

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Speaker 4: But here's the here's one I'm to pull water on

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Speaker 4: got that. It's just like and we'll talk about it later.

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Speaker 4: The Patriots. Yeah, how many teams in Patriots beat over

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Speaker 4: about that. So I'm just saying, it doesn't mean that

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Speaker 4: look at like your strength, like like people weren't given

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Speaker 4: the Bears and Caleb credit. Go to Philadelphia, Yeah, show

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Speaker 4: it that, go win Nagat And they went in one game. Okay,

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Speaker 4: now your your your tone changed and in the in

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Speaker 4: the uh Fort Shanahan, all of I'm with, Okay, I'm

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Speaker 4: not like pooh pooling the season.

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Speaker 3: Don't poo poo the season. I'm not pool pooling the season.

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Speaker 4: I'm just saying I'm not ready to throw a parade

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Speaker 4: now because if he does the same exact thing and

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Speaker 4: they get knocked out. Remember the lines were fifteen and

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Speaker 4: we're gonna have to buy and then you got two

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Speaker 3: You No, No, he has to win, and I'm sure

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Speaker 6: I don't think he's wanting a parade right now either, Rob,

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Speaker 6: So I think if he was listening to the show

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Speaker 6: right now, he would probably agree with what you're saying

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Speaker 6: as far as he needs to get the job done,

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Speaker 6: you know, get this championship and bring you know. And

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Speaker 6: he's also coaching with a story franchise too, that is

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Speaker 6: used to winning Super Bowls and being the last one standing.

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Speaker 3: So for him, he has to get the job done

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Speaker 3: for sure.

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Speaker 4: Adam pac Man Jones, of course, the former NFL pro bowler.

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Speaker 3: What's up, pac Man?

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Speaker 8: How are you man? I'm doing good man. How are

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Speaker 3: What's up? Pack? All's good man? How you doing?

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Speaker 8: Boy Man? I'm doing good man. I can't complain at all.

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Speaker 4: I do want to say this before we get started.

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Speaker 4: And he played thirteen years in the NFL. Of course,

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Speaker 4: the cornerback returned specialists. But I was back in the

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Speaker 4: day on first take during those during your career, and

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Speaker 4: I was battling time and time again. I thought the

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Speaker 4: NFL had stepped out of their bounds. Man, I really did.

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Speaker 4: I'm not telling you that to you know, carry.

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Speaker 3: I don't. I'm not. I don't glaze people. But I'm saying,

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Speaker 3: come on, man, keep it PG saying I thought it.

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Speaker 4: Was out of bounds. I really did, Like like going

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Speaker 4: to a strip club. You know, we call this Magic

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Speaker 4: City Monday on the show. You already know what you say,

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Speaker 4: Come on you know what I'm saying. That's all But

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Speaker 4: pac Man, let's talk some NFL and let's start with

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Speaker 4: that great game Sunday night, of course, the Bears and

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Speaker 4: the forty nine Ers. Just your thoughts. I thought Caleb

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Speaker 4: But just your thoughts on Caleb and his progression and

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Speaker 8: Well, I would have never thought that the Bears would

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Speaker 8: be where they at right now. But we got to

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Speaker 8: give credit to the offensive line for the Bears. They

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Speaker 8: They averaged four and a half yards per carry. Hey,

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Speaker 8: Tayler playing really good. And I'm not a fan of

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Speaker 8: the nails. I gave them a lot of shit at

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Speaker 8: the beginning of the season about his nails. And actually,

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Speaker 8: I have to paint my nails this week on the

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Speaker 8: show because I didn't think they were win over eight games.

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Speaker 3: Oh my, are they going to do your ches to

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Speaker 3: I'm just asking.

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Speaker 8: I'm just only gonna paint the pinky. You know it's

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Speaker 8: gonna be. It won't be a flamboyant color, like a

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Speaker 8: neutral color. I will say this, Pac Tenaham got to

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Speaker 8: be coach up to get Bro. All the injuries they

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Speaker 8: way Bro to win the game.

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Speaker 6: Exactly how are they going to fix that team? We

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Speaker 8: I hate when people say cash They got the high

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Speaker 8: if you ask me. But I do think that Joe Burrow,

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Speaker 8: When you score thirty something points a game, or even

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but don't you have to put some of the

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Speaker 8: Nah, you can't do that. No, Well, now the player

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Speaker 3: No, but everybody. Everybody knows the Cincinnati Bengals.

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Speaker 8: Is it to a point that they suck down there?

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Speaker 3: No? But no. But my point is what he got paid.

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Speaker 4: Nice to have two receivers. Don't you need somebody to

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Speaker 4: You don't have need both receivers a top dollars, Like.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, Joe have gotten hit, but he ain't got hit

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Speaker 3: And I got another pushback for you.

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Speaker 4: Kyle Shanahan is not the coach of the year, not

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Speaker 4: It's his first year as coach and they won twelve games.

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Speaker 3: No, no, ain't no way.

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Speaker 4: Kyle Shanahan is coaching the year Jacksonville was dead.

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Speaker 8: He played a wide receiver dollars. He's just playing race

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Speaker 8: He ain't even had to running back the first three weeks.

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Speaker 3: Wait a minute, Jacksonville was dead in the water. Are

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Speaker 4: There no, come on, man, you want to bet some

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Speaker 3: From Magic City?

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Speaker 4: Man pac Man want to bet some wings?

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Speaker 6: Hey, Pat you're here, Hey you see when you first

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Speaker 4: Now he's trying to bet you for wingst you wings.

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Speaker 4: Ain't no way Kyle Shannan's gonna be coaching the year.

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Speaker 4: I'm just telling you, it ain't gonna happen.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 3: What's the other team tonight?

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Speaker 8: Hold on? Hold on? Where did they win this week?

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Speaker 8: Have home field advantage? The super Bowl is where I'm

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Speaker 3: In San Francisco.

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Speaker 4: But it's still it still has nothing to revitalize a

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Speaker 4: dead franchise that won four games last year. Nah, he

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Speaker 4: let me ask you about the Rams are playing tonight.

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Speaker 4: Where are you on them? How good are they? Could

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Speaker 8: I like Matthew Matthew Stafford, he is the m v

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Speaker 8: today should it be Drake Mays or Matthew? He got

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Speaker 8: But I like I like I like Matthew. He's a

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Speaker 6: Know, you know, like, yeah, Matthew Stafford's a guy for sure.

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Speaker 4: It's by defaults, by default, by Defaultault.

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Speaker 6: Robes like pack You got to know that he's he's

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Speaker 4: Saw Matthew as we called him in Detroit staff Patford.

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Speaker 4: Uh yeah, I've watched his whole career. H No, No,

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Speaker 4: what was the other team? I wanted to ask you about? Philadelphia?

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Speaker 4: Just tell us one last thing. We got about a

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Speaker 8: Definitely not repeating. I don't believe all the hype. I

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Speaker 8: you've seen the other day when they just want the

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Speaker 2: Like it's you.

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Speaker 8: I'm not. I ain't saying that I'm the smartest motherfucker.

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Speaker 8: But when you see him walk in there and look

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Speaker 8: when you get the fuck away?

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Speaker 3: All right? Thank you.

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Speaker 5: For your Pittsburgh stealers setting up the Odd Couple ball,

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Speaker 5: we'll get to that later this week. Yes, only one

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Speaker 5: man can be right about the Pittsburgh's dealers, Rob Parker

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Speaker 3: But this game, Jordans I got on. I'm right. No,

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Speaker 3: you're not if you miss this one, it's gonna be tough.

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Speaker 5: Kelvin Rock, what was the best Rod Lyons? Rob did

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Speaker 5: his victory laps? Say and on Monday?

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Speaker 3: Oh, he did shot to potentially lose this one. No, no, no,

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Speaker 3: I didn't say it was over.

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Speaker 8: You did.

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Speaker 3: No, I didn't. Kevin, you were wrong about the Steelers.

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Speaker 3: I had two games. I didn't lose Land. Come on,

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Speaker 3: I didn't lose yesterday. All they gotta do is win

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Speaker 3: the last gat That's right, that's all they got.

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Speaker 5: Well, it goes double meaning not just for you and

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Speaker 5: Calvin and the odd couple.

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Speaker 3: Bet the odd couple super Bowl.

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Speaker 5: According to ESPN's Adam Schefter, he said it on Pat

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Speaker 5: McAfee today that miss Pat mcfe that if Mike Tomlin

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Speaker 5: and the Steelers lose this game on Sunday, winner take

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Speaker 5: all this time, it cuts right against the Baltimore Ravens

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Speaker 5: that it is quote possible that he would step aside

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Speaker 3: Must win for Mike Tomlin. And I knew that.

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Speaker 4: I knew that's what Mike Tomlin's gonna say.

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Speaker 3: Hey, I'll say this. I got a better step than that.

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Speaker 4: It wouldn't be his choice if I was the Pittsburgh

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Speaker 4: a division when they've been awful all year. To me,

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Speaker 4: it would just be another nine and eight year with

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Speaker 4: Mike Tomlin. At some point again he won the super Bowl.

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Speaker 4: It was a long time ago. They haven't won a

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Speaker 4: I'm always eighteen, twenty eighteen. They ever won a Super

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Speaker 4: then you're doing something a little different than even last

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Speaker 4: you can win a home playoff game, got a quarterback

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Speaker 3: What people don't even understand.

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Speaker 4: What's Aaron Rodgers record as quarterback of the Steelers this year?

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Speaker 3: Do you know?

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Speaker 6: Five hundred eight? How many games he missed one? He

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Speaker 6: missed two games, he missed two, So he's under five hundred, No,

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Speaker 6: but he's nine in five nine five. He only missed

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Speaker 6: how many games too? He missed two to two games

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Speaker 6: that he missed they lost No. Seven So okay, yes,

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Speaker 4: Not in five. So sometimes, you know, you look at

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Speaker 4: Nine in five is different from what it was last

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Speaker 4: Mike Tomlin had a great run in Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 3: It's just time for a change. And that's all.

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Speaker 4: It doesn't mean he can't coach or he can't go

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Speaker 4: whatever you know at home or what. Okay, I'm good,

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Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Like as far as him staying,

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Speaker 4: I'm done with Mike Tomlin.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, both of these coaches are in the same position. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I've said as early as what week four, Rob g

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Speaker 6: good things in this league for a while, but it

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Speaker 6: just comes they both won Super Bowl. Yeah, there's a

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Speaker 6: point in time where your voice becomes redundant, to become stale,

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Speaker 6: and you need first voices in there. And when you

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Speaker 6: talk about Pittsburgh in general, this team, this team was

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Speaker 6: never good enough to.

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Speaker 3: Win it all anyway.

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Speaker 6: So, like you said, if the success for this season

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Speaker 6: for Pittsburgh would have been to win a win a

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Speaker 6: playoff game, and that would have been different and that

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Speaker 6: would have brought different life.

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Speaker 3: But I don't see that happening.

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Speaker 6: I don't even think they're gonna win this game Sunday,

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Speaker 6: So you may be losing this, bet Ron. I think

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Speaker 6: I think the Ravens are gonna win this. I actually

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Speaker 6: think they're gonna the Steelers gonna win.

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Speaker 4: And you know, yeah I do because the Ravens have

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Speaker 4: been bad all year and when they need games, Zay

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Speaker 4: Flowers fumble no I'm somebody somebody does likely fumbles or

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Speaker 4: drops the ball over, Yeah, Derek Henry fumbles, Lamar fumbles,

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Speaker 4: Andrew do you remember Mark Andrews drops the ball drops.

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Speaker 4: I'm just saying like like this is how their seasons

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Speaker 4: have ended, like over and over. I'm not just and

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Speaker 4: you know, I'm all about Lamar. I don't even know

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Speaker 4: if he's playing or not, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: He had a back injury, so I'm not sure he's

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Speaker 4: playing or whatnot. And if he does, I just can't

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Speaker 4: count on them. They've been so disappointing and would not

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna say, if he does play and they get

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Speaker 4: to Pittsburgh or whatever, could they I get them losing

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Speaker 4: the game on some costly fumble or interception or something bad,

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Speaker 4: like they always do. And that's what they've done carry

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Speaker 4: and that yes, like they don't they very seldom. If

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Speaker 4: you look at the losses that they've had in the postseason,

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Speaker 4: it's usually self inflicted.

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Speaker 6: Put your put your better side. These two teams, one

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Speaker 6: of them are going to get in. Who would you

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Speaker 6: have more faith than winning one game in the playoffs

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Speaker 6: between those twos.

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Speaker 4: Well, just because of the history of what the what

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Speaker 4: the Ravens have on paper. Yeah, so I agree, yeah,

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Speaker 4: on paper, but that's not who they are and that

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Speaker 4: and that and I can't I can't hear you. I

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Speaker 4: can't like not see the forty points in the opener

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Speaker 4: and they lose that game in Buffalo, you know what

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Speaker 4: I mean. I can't see the forty points they gave

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Speaker 4: up to the Lions, or thirty eight points and the

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Speaker 4: and the forty points they gave up to the Texans,

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Speaker 4: you know, and and and.

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Speaker 3: You could say this is my super Bowl pick.

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Speaker 4: And I'm telling you, you know, normally I want my

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Speaker 4: pick to be right, so I could be on that bandwagon,

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Speaker 4: but I'm changing because it just doesn't feel right. That's

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Speaker 4: what I'm fighting normally, be like, all right, they got

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Speaker 4: another chance, my pick is still alive. Let Lamar get

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Speaker 4: in and then they're gonna roll all the way to

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Speaker 4: the super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: That sounds good, but they haven't done anything this year

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Speaker 3: to make.

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Speaker 4: Me feel like this postseason, if they were to make

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Speaker 4: it would be different from any other.

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Speaker 6: I got you. No, I agree with you on that.

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Speaker 6: It doesn't feel that way. But I'm always I always

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Speaker 6: side on the I always sat on the side of

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Speaker 6: if you have dudes. I'd rather have the team with dudes,

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Speaker 6: don't I don't disagree. But it hasn't worked for them.

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Speaker 4: That that's the only it hasn't worked because we've been

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Speaker 4: we've been picking them every year.

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Speaker 3: I picked them three years in a row. WHOA, you

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Speaker 3: know what I carry out, right? So I know what

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Speaker 3: you're saying.

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Speaker 4: When I look at that roster, I cannot believe Zay

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Speaker 4: Flowers a pro bowler with more interceptions and touchdown what

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Speaker 4: Derrick Henry never was a fumbler fumble lightest.

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Speaker 3: But then he comes back this past week, can have

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Speaker 3: two hundred some yards.

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Speaker 4: Rushed, right, also that he could have four yards on

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Speaker 4: twenty carries.

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean? On Sunday? I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I just they don't feel good to me. I wish

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Speaker 4: I could have as much confidence as you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't have it. I don't look at rob g.

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Speaker 4: What were the two losses that they had at home

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Speaker 4: like they had before the big game with Derek Henry.

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Speaker 4: They lost two games at home back to back.

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Speaker 3: I just Steelers Steelers once?

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Speaker 2: Was it?

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Speaker 3: The Steelers Steelers once? And then but there was.

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Speaker 4: Another game they were at home that I was like

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Speaker 4: had they run off like five or six and they

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Speaker 4: had the chance and everybody got back and you thought

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Speaker 4: they could make a run.

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Speaker 5: Loss to the Bengals on Thanksgivings what it was, and

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Speaker 5: then they lost to the Steelers.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was like at home, Yeah, those I like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: you gotta win those. Yeah, you gotta win them. You

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Speaker 3: gotta win those at home. I just that's when I

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Speaker 3: lost it for him.

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Speaker 5: And I believe that against New England, they had them

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Speaker 5: dead to rights until the fourth quarter when Drake May

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Speaker 5: had like a perfect fourth quarter, and they lost that

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Speaker 5: game too.

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Speaker 4: And that's what we've seen all right, eight seven, seven

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Speaker 4: ninety nine on Fox eight seven seven nine nine six

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Speaker 4: sixty three sixty nine. If the Steelers lose on Sunday,

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Speaker 4: should Mike Tomlin be fired? I'm raising my hand