1 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live to New York Bloomberg eleventh Rio to Washington, 2 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:12,239 Speaker 1: d C, Bloomberg to Boston, Bloomberg Well under Its to 3 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 1: San Francisco, Bloomberg n to the Country series ETAM General 4 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 1: one nineteen and around the globe the Bloomberg Radio plus 5 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:24,319 Speaker 1: Appen Bloomberg dot com. This is taking stock in a 6 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 1: world of retail doom and gloom. Walmart suddenly shines like 7 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 1: a bright star. Its share price up nine percent today, 8 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 1: in fact, shares up the most and more than seven years. 9 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:39,239 Speaker 1: First quarter results beat analysts estimates. PIM. We're going to 10 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:42,480 Speaker 1: find out what's driving Walmart and if it's particular to them, 11 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 1: or if maybe the retail industry overall is doing better 12 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 1: than other retailers would have indicated. Yes, well, we've got 13 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 1: results from American Eagle Outfitters as well as Perry Ellis International, 14 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 1: both shares rallying today after topping first quarter earnings estimates. 15 00:00:57,400 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 1: Right now, let's go to Charlie Pelligan the Bloomberg news 16 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 1: room for a Burger business LA and I thank you him, 17 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 1: thank you, Kathleen. Let us begin with retail, because a 18 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 1: lot going on there today. You mentioned Walmart up nine percent, right, now, 19 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 1: American Eagles surging eighteen point eight percent, Urban outfitters up 20 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:15,960 Speaker 1: thirteen and a half percent. Perry Ellis International it is 21 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 1: up now by fifteen point one percent. This solid day, 22 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 1: when the rest of the market is declining, stocks have 23 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 1: paired declines as anxiety eases over the potential for higher 24 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 1: rates as soon as next month. Commodity producers erasing losses, 25 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 1: consumer shares extending their advance. Rick Reader is global chief 26 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 1: investment Officer for fixed income at black Rock, and on 27 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Television this morning, he told us July is a 28 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 1: better bet than June for the next interest rate increase 29 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 1: from the Federal Reserve. You've got between now and June, 30 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 1: you have really the big piece of data, and arguably 31 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 1: the only piece of data of major significance as a 32 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: papal report. So you gotta watch that. Part of why 33 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 1: I think July is more logical. Get through Brexit, then 34 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 1: you get CPI data, then you get core PIEC, you 35 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 1: get a series of retail sales, and you a good 36 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 1: number of data prints, which is where I think it 37 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: makes sense to wait a respectful effact. There's no press 38 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 1: conference in July. They like to go into the press countings. 39 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:12,079 Speaker 1: I don't think they've said it before. Non press conference 40 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: meetings are live. Church and Dwight denying that it is 41 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 1: engaged in talks with potential acquires, robutting reports that had 42 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 1: sent the shares surging over the past couple of days. Today, 43 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 1: Church and Dwight is up one point eight percent SMP 44 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 1: down nine now a drop of five tenths of one 45 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 1: percent to down down Night He wanted to decline also 46 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 1: of five tenths of one percent, and has stack down 47 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 1: seven tenths of one percent. Gold down eight ounces to 48 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 1: drop of one and a half percent to thirty two 49 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 1: on Wall Street. Now we'll look at other news from 50 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 1: around the world on Bloomberg Radio. Charlie, thank you from 51 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 1: the Bloomberg news Room. I'm Mark Crumpton. Egypt Civil Aviation 52 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 1: Ministry says life jackets and plastic items have been found 53 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 1: in the sea off Greece, close to the suspected side 54 00:02:56,800 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 1: of today's Egypt airplane crash. Uh Met A l is 55 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 1: Vice President of Egypt Are we have found the wreckage. 56 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 1: We confirmed that the wreckage has been found and the 57 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 1: search and rescue teams are now. Uh it's turning into 58 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 1: a search and recovery. French President Francois Olan, speaking to 59 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 1: the media in Paris through a translator, said his government 60 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 1: is sending planes and ships to support the search efforts. 61 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 1: We should express our sordidarity with trick to the families 62 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 1: and also to find out the cause of the catastrophe. 63 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 1: Flight eight oh four and Airbus A three twenty with 64 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 1: sixties six people aboard, crashed into the Mediterranean early today 65 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 1: while in the route to Cairo from Paris. France's lower 66 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 1: House of Parliament has approved the two month extension of 67 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 1: the state of emergency that was declared after last falls 68 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 1: deadly terror attacks in Paris. The measure is aimed at 69 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 1: covering the European Championship soccer tournament and the Tour de France. 70 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 1: Police have been given more powers to make arrests and 71 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 1: authorities than restrict movement of people or vehicles. One of 72 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 1: two men who killed the New York City violinist insider 73 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 1: Upstate summer home in has been sentenced to twenty five 74 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 1: years to life in state prison. Forty year old Jonathan 75 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 1: Conklin was sentenced yesterday in Chautuckwack County. In November, he 76 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 1: pleaded guilty to a second degree murder charge in the 77 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 1: slaying of Mary Whittaker. Global News twenty four hours a day, 78 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 1: powered by our two hundred journalists in more than one 79 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 1: hundred fifty news bureaus around the world from the Bloomberg 80 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 1: News Room by Mark Crumpton, Charlie and we thank you, 81 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:34,160 Speaker 1: and we are brought to you by Pershing's Inside twenty 82 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:38,159 Speaker 1: six conference, a must attend for advisers June seventh through 83 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:42,600 Speaker 1: the ninth in Orlando, Florida. Register at Inside dot com. 84 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:48,239 Speaker 1: That's I N S I T E SI dot com 85 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 1: recapping Stock's lawer SMP down ten a drop of five 86 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:55,839 Speaker 1: tenths of one percent. I'm Charlie Pellaton. That's a Bloomberg 87 00:04:55,880 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 1: business flash. You're listening to taking Stock with Lee Mays 88 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 1: and Pox on Bluebird Radio. Walmart beating analysts estimates Walmart 89 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:12,720 Speaker 1: getting good results from its grocery sales its neighborhood market stores. 90 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 1: Is Walmart uh fighting its way back to being a 91 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 1: big winner in the retail space, or is the struggle 92 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 1: to boost its online sales ultimately going to stand in 93 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:27,479 Speaker 1: its way. Scott Mushkin joins us now. He's senior retail 94 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:31,159 Speaker 1: and staples analysts at Wolf Research to weigh in not 95 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 1: only on Walmart, but we hope also on urban outfitters 96 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:36,839 Speaker 1: and more. Thank you for joining us, Scott Hey, thanks 97 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:39,599 Speaker 1: for having me appreciate it. So, Walmart, what is what 98 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:42,040 Speaker 1: is the takeaway here? What's what are the key points 99 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 1: that everyone should know about Walmart from this earnings report? 100 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: I mean, I think they're they're they're too really. One 101 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 1: is it's been a dreadful a couple of weeks in 102 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 1: retail land. Most companies have had significant earnings misses. Um. 103 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:57,839 Speaker 1: And so I think the idea that you have a 104 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 1: company here that's doing okay, now, earnings were still down 105 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:03,159 Speaker 1: here over here, they were just you know, down less 106 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 1: than people anticipated. So so I think that that's good. UM. 107 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 1: And I also think there's this idea that maybe, um, 108 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:14,599 Speaker 1: maybe that the company is finding its footing. We have 109 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 1: deep concerns on that and we don't think that's really 110 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 1: the case if you kind of look through some of 111 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 1: the numbers. UM. But Greg Foreign, who's the U S 112 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:24,279 Speaker 1: head now, has been has been here for about a year. 113 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:27,599 Speaker 1: He's clearly doing a much better job running this company, 114 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 1: and it's showing up. I mean, their in store conditions 115 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:33,479 Speaker 1: are better, the sales are a little stronger. UM. So 116 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:35,839 Speaker 1: I think right now Walmart is getting a lot of 117 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 1: credit given the environment we're in. Hey, Scot, I'm wondering 118 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:40,359 Speaker 1: if you could give us a little detail, a little 119 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 1: color on your concerns. So when I think, if you 120 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 1: you know kind of both medium term and long term. 121 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 1: So as we look at at the back half of 122 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 1: the year of him Walmart, like I said, Greg's done 123 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 1: a good job here. He came in about a year 124 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 1: ago and it's really got his hands around these operations. 125 00:06:56,240 --> 00:07:00,279 Speaker 1: They had terrible in stock situation, uh not enough aduct 126 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 1: on the shelf. UM. So he's he's done a good 127 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 1: job fixing that. They've had to throw a lot of 128 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: store labor to get it fixed. Also took inventories down 129 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 1: for store they were terribly overstocked, particularly in their back rooms. 130 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 1: As we get to the third quarter of this year, 131 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 1: they're going to start cycling through some of these benefits. 132 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 1: And they benefited both sales and margins um and so 133 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 1: you know, we worry as they get to the third 134 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:28,119 Speaker 1: quarter when they had dirty plus basis points at gross 135 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 1: margin improvement. In the fourth color, they had sixty nine 136 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 1: basis points a gross margin improvement. Uh, and clearly some 137 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 1: sales benefits that the cycling over some of these things 138 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 1: is going to be pretty tough on the company. I 139 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 1: think as we look longer term. Uh, it's the structure 140 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 1: of the supercenter and it really goes to Amazon e 141 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 1: commerce and just the changing preferences, shopping preferences and a 142 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 1: lot of these everyday essentials that Walmart's known for. There's 143 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 1: two challenges. Number one, they're not priced cheaper than anyone 144 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: else anymore. And number two, the propensity to buy those 145 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 1: on line is rising rapidly because let's face it, going 146 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 1: to the store, going to a supercenter to buy paper towel, 147 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 1: that's a chore. And Amazon also got a demographic issue, right, 148 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: I mean, because your customer base is aging out at 149 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 1: the top and new customers are coming in it are 150 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 1: quite ready to order everything using their phone. Yeah. We 151 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 1: had a Huger port out called the Amazon generation, talking 152 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 1: about the millennials. Just what you're talking about, what you're 153 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 1: speaking of, And yeah, they they want to buy online. 154 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 1: They're used to it. That's what I called it, the 155 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 1: Amazon generation. They don't want to spend their time going 156 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 1: down to a supercenter. If Amazon is going to deliver 157 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 1: it to their house. Um, and for busy household young 158 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 1: households working a lot, Amazon's giving them their time back 159 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 1: and that's incredibly valuable because they don't have to do 160 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 1: that chore. They can go see Johnny's baseball game on 161 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 1: the weekend. So incredible challenges for the supercenter format as 162 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 1: we move forward over you know, over the next couple 163 00:08:57,120 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 1: of years, at some point does Amazon's business model catch 164 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:03,680 Speaker 1: up with it? Though that can't crush everybody before. It 165 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 1: has to somehow make it make more money doing what 166 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 1: it basically does. I mean, they're starting to make make 167 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 1: more money and um, so we're seeing that already and 168 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 1: I think the and it's a little bit unknowable, but 169 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 1: when you take some and I think this is a 170 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 1: really important point I said it earlier. Is it when 171 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 1: you take time and give it back to people As 172 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 1: an old fashioned economics term, but utility, there's literally no utility. 173 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 1: And going down to buy tied at a store, if 174 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 1: someone's going to deliver that to you, um, they're giving 175 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 1: you something so valuable back. They're giving you back your time. 176 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 1: And Amazon, we think, is honest way to becoming a 177 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 1: horizontal monopoly I'm not sure anything can stop it because 178 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 1: those trends are so powerful. You have an outperform rating 179 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 1: on the shares of Amazon. I just want to get 180 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 1: your quick thoughts if I can. On Home Depot and Lows. 181 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 1: They reported results this week. I mean both companies tremendous 182 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 1: report um. You know Home Deepo in particular, we think 183 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:05,319 Speaker 1: it's gaining a lot of share. I think the question is, 184 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 1: if we've slowed this economy down, can the housing market 185 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 1: still outperformed. We think the answers yes, There's been a 186 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 1: lot of under investment in the housing stock and the 187 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:17,679 Speaker 1: housing stock has aged a lot um. But I think 188 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:20,079 Speaker 1: that there's any concern around the sectors if we turn 189 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 1: this economy down, do we you know, we see a pullback. 190 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:26,680 Speaker 1: We think Home Depot and Lows can continue to perform 191 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 1: nicely given the consolidation in the industry and the dynamics 192 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:33,839 Speaker 1: behind the housing market right now. Thank you very much 193 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:37,839 Speaker 1: for joining us. Scott Mushkin, He's managing director and a 194 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 1: senior staples retail analyst for Wolf Research. Taking a look 195 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 1: right now, it's the shares of Walmart. They are up 196 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 1: more than five dollars a share. 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