1 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:05,160 Speaker 1: You supertata pie or things or a pumpkin pie. Guys, 2 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:09,039 Speaker 1: I like pumpkin pie. Oh, terrible choice, supertato pie. He 3 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:11,320 Speaker 1: doesn't have to win a high percentage of his gambles 4 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 1: to make it really worth it. If they can get 5 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: a kick started against the Steelers, then why the heck not? 6 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:17,079 Speaker 1: Why can't they run the table the rest of the 7 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:21,960 Speaker 1: day and just finished the twelve and four? Welcome into 8 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 1: the lounge. Dark times are upon Uscart. Well they've been 9 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 1: upon us since March, let's be honest, but things are 10 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 1: getting a little darker here. Ravens have lost three out 11 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:36,240 Speaker 1: of four back to back games for the first time 12 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 1: since early last season. Uh, I was Mr optimistic. Just yeah, 13 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: last last week he came into the lounge and your 14 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 1: cup was half full? How full is it right now? 15 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 1: I would say that it's a third fool Okay, so 16 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 1: it's still not two thirds empty, but the water level 17 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 1: has dropped the little bit. Okay, But I'm still I'm 18 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 1: still looking at the positives here because you know, I 19 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:11,040 Speaker 1: don't sometimes a guy that's the type of guy you 20 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 1: are here. Here, Here's what it is, Here's what it is. Okay, 21 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:16,119 Speaker 1: we're talking before the game, and we always about five 22 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:17,759 Speaker 1: ten minutes before the game, he said, all right, final 23 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 1: predictions here you go. What's your gut telling you right 24 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:22,960 Speaker 1: before kickoff? And I said, I think it's an L 25 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:27,040 Speaker 1: to the Titans followed by a Dubbs in Pittsburgh. It 26 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 1: just felt like that it wasn't not a good matchup 27 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 1: for the Ravens, Derrick Henry versa beat up defensive line. 28 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 1: But I feel like the Steelers game is to get right, 29 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:39,199 Speaker 1: just huge win on the road. I'll say it once. 30 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 1: I've said a million times. All right, I like the 31 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:44,040 Speaker 1: Ravens better on the road than I do at home 32 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 1: at this point right now during COVID like them better 33 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 1: on the road. Send him on the road. Ah. So, 34 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 1: so I'm gonna stick to my original prediction before the 35 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 1: kickoff of the Titans game was an else and Titans 36 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 1: followed by a Dobs eight wall. And we know that. 37 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: I mean, you're on the books of saying that you 38 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 1: don't think the Steelers or anything special. You know, that's 39 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 1: been that's been your that's been your take since you know, 40 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 1: since the start of the season, that nothing special, nothing 41 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 1: about I told Harves that you're scared of the Steelers. 42 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:16,360 Speaker 1: Are you are you amending your your perspective on that? 43 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 1: And are they still sneak hell though? Yeah, I think 44 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 1: you know, Look, look, this is if the Ravens do 45 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 1: win this game, it is a turn of the season around, 46 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:32,640 Speaker 1: you know, the sky's the limit type of win. It 47 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 1: really is. If you win a game on a short 48 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 1: week and be the only on a defeated team in 49 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 1: football at a time when you're dealing with major COVID 50 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 1: issues and multiple guys around the COVID list. Um, after 51 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 1: two straight losses, that is a completely turned the season around, 52 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 1: and you can be and you can be rolling quickly, 53 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 1: especially when you look at who the Ravens have in 54 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:54,679 Speaker 1: the final five games of the season after that. So, 55 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 1: no question about it. This could be a big time 56 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 1: get right game if they're able to come away with it. So, um, 57 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 1: they should have won the last one against the Steelers. 58 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 1: Yeah they should have. Yeah. Look, look, I mean it's 59 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 1: I think a lot of teams probably can go through 60 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 1: and say should have And if this play goes differently, 61 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 1: It's like me with fantasy football. You know, you're like, 62 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: if I would have started this guy, I would have won. 63 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:23,639 Speaker 1: Don't get me started on fantasya salty, but except in 64 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 1: the league that you rejected, came up with a big 65 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: win back against the Wall win. Congratulations, but no, I 66 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 1: think that like the Ravens should have won the game 67 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: against the Steelers, I think they should have won the 68 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 1: game against the Titans. I think they should have won 69 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 1: the game against the Titans. Um, and you're salty about 70 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: some of the refereeing. I know that's usually me. I'm 71 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 1: usually the blame the refs guy, but you were pretty 72 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 1: I thought there were huge calls. I went against the Ravens. 73 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 1: I thought the panamic fee roughing the pastor. I thought 74 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 1: that the BS spot uh when Lamar Jackson got a 75 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 1: first down? Was was? I think the Ravens win the 76 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 1: game if the ref correctly spots up all and gives 77 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 1: the Ravens the first down on that play. It's been 78 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: all year though. The Rains were one of the high 79 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 1: penalized teams in the NFL, and their opponents, whoever they play, 80 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 1: are the least penalized teams in the NFL. Like penalties 81 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 1: against are just it's shockingly low. So it's like, how 82 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 1: is this one side of every single week? And then 83 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 1: and then beyond the penalties. You have an issue like 84 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 1: the ball spotting like that doesn't show New England. The 85 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 1: New England one took the cake for me the guy. 86 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 1: The guy puts his foot down and then magically the 87 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 1: ball moves up half a yard of what was that? Yeah? 88 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 1: Those are terrible. These are terrible. So look, we want 89 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:35,039 Speaker 1: to have some perspective here on where the Ravens stand 90 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:37,279 Speaker 1: at this point. But before we jump into our interview 91 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 1: with our guests, I do want to remind everyone to 92 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 1: take a water break and moderate you're drinking Crown Royal 93 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:46,279 Speaker 1: Canadian whiskey. So we are now going to take a 94 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 1: quick break and when we come back, we'll be joined 95 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 1: with Kemi Cusick from Film Study Baltimore to really dive 96 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 1: into the tape the xs and ohs of what happened 97 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 1: that game on Sunday. Ravens fans, if you've been reading 98 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 1: the scouting reports, you know that rams Rocks are motor trends. 99 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:03,480 Speaker 1: Back to back Truck of the Year Round hundred is 100 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 1: a top pick with an available hemy v a engine, 101 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:10,719 Speaker 1: etour hybrid technology, and a twelve inch touch screen. Plus 102 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 1: it offers a truckload of available features. 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All right, we 113 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 1: defer to the experts here, okay. And and you know, 114 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 1: you watch a lot of films, so we want to 115 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:57,840 Speaker 1: kind of break down some of these big issues right now. Yeah, 116 00:05:57,880 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 1: I'm not sure. I have a lot of great things 117 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:03,720 Speaker 1: to add, hopefully some positive in this episode. Well well, 118 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 1: well we'll try to find some silver lining right now 119 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:09,919 Speaker 1: during dark times. Well, you know, Ryan's film study is 120 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:11,840 Speaker 1: limited to YouTube highlights, and there's not a lot of 121 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 1: YouTube highlights right now, so he's really really hurting on 122 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 1: how to break down this team that only pertains to 123 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 1: the draft. Yeah, once you get into the season, you 124 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:24,719 Speaker 1: don't watch any anything. So then there's no tape watching. 125 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:27,840 Speaker 1: I believe that's the guys like Ken and Jonas Shafer 126 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 1: who has become you know, Ken's little his his understudy. 127 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 1: I feel like it's outstanding. Isn't he as great? I 128 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 1: know Jonas has really gotten into the film stuff, like 129 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:39,480 Speaker 1: all his questions now there that Jonas is very into 130 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 1: the excess question. So Ken, you better watch your butt 131 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 1: all right, Jones is coming for you. All right. Let's 132 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:47,840 Speaker 1: let's start with one guy that a lot of fans 133 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 1: were talking about, and that's Hollywood Brown. Why why is 134 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:55,040 Speaker 1: Hollywood struggling recently? Well, it's you know, it's a lot 135 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:57,719 Speaker 1: of combination of factors. I think one of the things 136 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 1: that he needs to have is a sale of alternative 137 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 1: to a vertical route. I mean, he's got to have 138 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:05,279 Speaker 1: some other route he can run, whether it's a comeback 139 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 1: route or a sharp inbreaking route at a deep level 140 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 1: that will create an additional opportunity that the cornerback has 141 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: to be aware of. Right now, cornerbacks and and the 142 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 1: ones with decent speed just dride him all the way 143 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 1: down the sideline. We saw that with J. C. Jackson 144 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 1: against New England, and he was not able then furthermore 145 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: to interfere with the football in any way as it 146 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 1: was intercepted. So that can also bring down trust issues 147 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 1: with Jackson. So a lot of problems put together. Obviously, 148 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 1: he's had some problems catching the ball recently. Don't blame 149 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 1: too much for that with the wet weather, but he 150 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 1: had some dry weather. He's working with this last week. 151 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 1: He needs to extend plays. I think a little better 152 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 1: in terms of getting to open space there. He had 153 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 1: a little bit better rapport with Lamar on that before. 154 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 1: Now I think he looks really for Andrews and Snead 155 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 1: in those situations. I think those are the major issues 156 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 1: right now. How that's kind of a lot. Well, you know, 157 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 1: it's it's really a tragedy because I do think, um, 158 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 1: he might have had the game winning touchdown. Had that, 159 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 1: you know that the false start or des Ryan not 160 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 1: being said early snap, whatever was, he might have waltzed 161 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 1: into for the for the game winner right there, which 162 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 1: is kind of a heartbreaker. But I'm curious just to 163 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 1: go to your point the first point you made about 164 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 1: needing other routes in the vertical route, is it that 165 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 1: he's not running them very often, or is it that 166 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:26,119 Speaker 1: he's not doing very well when he runs other routes. 167 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 1: It's a combination of two things. I'd say one is 168 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 1: he doesn't they don't really run a lot of sharp 169 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 1: hitches where they actually throw the ball to him. And 170 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 1: if you remember Derek Mason in Flacco's rookie year, the 171 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 1: bread and butter was that ten yard come background on 172 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 1: the sidelines. Flacco had an army, they had a good 173 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 1: back shoulder rapport, and Mason also could go deep off 174 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 1: that route. And you just don't need you don't need 175 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 1: to be able to run six or seven routes if 176 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 1: you can run started by running those two. And the Ravens, 177 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 1: you know, don't throw outside the number short very often. 178 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 1: And Jackson has a has a little bit of fear 179 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 1: of interceptions and as all quarterbacks should, throwing outside the 180 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 1: numbers there. But he's got to develop some back shoulder 181 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 1: rapport out there. Maybe Brian is the guy or maybe Brown. 182 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:10,719 Speaker 1: That's the sailable alternity creates. If it's not that, it's 183 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 1: gonna be something keep over the middle, then I think 184 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 1: the second round well, I think part of the issue 185 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 1: too is on any kind of comeback route or anything underneath, 186 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 1: you know, He's not a guy that's really running around 187 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 1: people or through people, not through any contact. So, like 188 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 1: the defensive back says, I'll just if I keep him 189 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 1: in front of me. The worst that happens is he 190 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 1: catches the ball and I tackle him immediately, you know. 191 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 1: So yeah, so it's not like you know, and I 192 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 1: know you've noted this as well, but people are talking 193 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:42,199 Speaker 1: about him playing in the slot. Well, there's a lot 194 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 1: of contact in that position too, Yeah, a lot of 195 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 1: contact and it and it really depends on skills that 196 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 1: I'm not a percent sure that Marquis have because the 197 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 1: whip route that we know Edelman for and other great 198 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:55,079 Speaker 1: slot receivers over the years, of course great great um 199 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 1: a change of direction more than anything. And that's not 200 00:09:57,640 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 1: the same thing as having the great long speed that 201 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 1: he has, So it's a it's a different position. M Yeah, alright. 202 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 1: So a bright spot I think of Sunday's game was 203 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:12,679 Speaker 1: J K. Dobbins. Now, the downside of that is that 204 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 1: he's now on the COVID list. So, um, you know, 205 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 1: you get a brief kind of moment of ecstasy there 206 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:21,439 Speaker 1: with him looking really good, but uh so he's on 207 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 1: the COVID list. Now. But it's sure seemed like and 208 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 1: and Ryan and I have been talking about this for 209 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 1: a while that it's only a matter of time until J. K. 210 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 1: Dobbins moves into that number one running back role. It 211 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:32,839 Speaker 1: looked like he got his opportunity on Sunday and he 212 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 1: seized it. Yes, I agree, I think he's it. Uh. 213 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 1: The more of this season wears on, it looks like 214 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 1: it will probably be mark Ingram's last in Baltimore. Dobbins 215 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:44,959 Speaker 1: has great vision, he has great balance. Reminds me in 216 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 1: a lot of ways of Ray Rice in two thousand 217 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 1: and eight nine. He was just starting to be a 218 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:51,840 Speaker 1: great player. Really two thousand and I guess more. Uh, 219 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:53,679 Speaker 1: and then you saw the balance come up. He's he's 220 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 1: got that same kind of go to the dry pod, 221 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 1: stands with two legs in one hand, keep his balanced. 222 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 1: This wonderful. And Ray Rice used to call that picking 223 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:03,959 Speaker 1: grass or something like that. No, I have not heard that. 224 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 1: That's great. Another great moment on Sunday as a blocker, 225 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 1: I thought on Dez Bryant's catch. Briant came back behind 226 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 1: the line of scribbage and Robbins made the block that 227 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 1: really sprung him for the big game down that right sideline. Interesting. Interesting, Yeah, 228 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 1: I mean the rookie. The rookie looks legit looks legit 229 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 1: for sure. Let's let's keep it on the offensive side 230 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:25,440 Speaker 1: of the ball. Can How how have the Ravens changed 231 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 1: the offense now without Nick Boyle. Well, that's the kind 232 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 1: of injury that really makes me desponded, because there really 233 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:35,319 Speaker 1: is no replacement for Nick Boyle with all he does. 234 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:37,560 Speaker 1: He's a receiving asset, he's a blocking asset and one 235 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 1: of the best blocking tight ends of the NFL, if 236 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 1: not the best, very much like missing an offensive lineman. 237 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 1: But what I saw to Wilson looked pretty good. It's 238 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 1: only about fifteen snaps, but he looked good in a 239 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:50,680 Speaker 1: in a very limited role that was pretty much all blocking. 240 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 1: He ran a few routes, but it was a very 241 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 1: limited you know roll there. The other thing was Scura 242 00:11:57,240 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 1: as a sixth offensive lineman, played really well in this game. 243 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 1: Made six of his block show good level two mobility 244 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 1: to get out there and make some blocks. So they 245 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 1: won't replace him with any one player. They're gonna have 246 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 1: to replace Oil Bye. Having different players do different things, 247 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 1: and some of this fits well from doing a little 248 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 1: more max protection for Jackson, which I like, uh in 249 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:19,840 Speaker 1: general is to get a six offensive lineman in the 250 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 1: game or or a tight end who can trickle out 251 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:24,719 Speaker 1: very late after blocking and Wilson then screw are good 252 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 1: for that. Well, that's what I've kind of been wondering 253 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 1: too with like, you know, these deep shots and the 254 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 1: Ravens weren't taking hardly any of them for a good 255 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:34,839 Speaker 1: chunk and part of it, you know, you talk about 256 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:37,319 Speaker 1: well as Lamar getting enough time to really throw those 257 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:39,839 Speaker 1: double moves or some of those deep throws, and I 258 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 1: feel like, at the end of the day, like those 259 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:44,599 Speaker 1: have to be schemed up. If you don't, if you 260 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:47,560 Speaker 1: don't have enough confidence in your injury riddled offensive line 261 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:50,679 Speaker 1: to protect long enough for a deep shot, then can't 262 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:53,679 Speaker 1: you find ways to scheme up some shots? Yeah? They 263 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 1: they played a fair amount of two plus protections on 264 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 1: set and ship blocks. And I'm just looking at my 265 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 1: sheets here, but they're about five plays on Sunday where 266 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 1: they did that um at two plus guys either staying 267 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:07,079 Speaker 1: in and it was mostly set blocks this time. A 268 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:09,080 Speaker 1: chip block means, you know, they're blowed into the battern 269 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 1: after making a block, but the Andrew's touchdown, for example, 270 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 1: was a Max protect and one of the other ones 271 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 1: where they tried to go to the end zone and 272 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 1: it didn't work out. I'd also been to Andrews. Yes, 273 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 1: it was another Max protect situation, but they had a 274 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 1: they had a number of attempts to do that. Yeah, 275 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 1: I like it in general. Okay, I want to get 276 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:32,560 Speaker 1: your perspective just how Lamar's playing right now, what are 277 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 1: you seeing from him in terms of what he's doing well, 278 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 1: what he's not doing well. And then also on the 279 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 1: deep shots. I think it's an interesting conversation because we've 280 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:43,079 Speaker 1: talked before about the Ravens needing to take him. You're 281 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:44,439 Speaker 1: not gonna hit him if you don't take him, so 282 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 1: sometimes you just need to take the deep shots. But 283 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 1: at the same time, I don't necessarily know if I 284 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 1: really like that approach, because we've seen the Ravens take 285 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 1: him over the past couple of weeks, and I think 286 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 1: it's hurt him. I think the deep shot to DuVernay 287 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 1: obviously was an interception. It hurt him. The deep shots 288 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 1: to Hollywood Brown the week before, right before Half heard 289 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 1: them both got picked off. Obviously, there's both interceptions. So 290 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 1: it's easy to point to that and say, don't take 291 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:08,560 Speaker 1: any but I don't know, like make I know you're 292 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 1: a big proponent of take the shots, and you know, 293 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 1: see what happens to some extent. I just think, I 294 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:16,599 Speaker 1: just think the offense is not going to take the 295 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 1: next step unless they strike some fear in people deep. 296 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 1: I agree that they you're just putting yourself in a box. 297 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 1: If you can't do that. Sure, I can't agree thumbs 298 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 1: up from can, but you know what, the offense is 299 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 1: not gonna take the next step one when they're throwing 300 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 1: interceptions down the sideline just because for the sake of 301 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 1: taking deep shots. But both are important, so they need 302 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 1: to they need to take care of the care of 303 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 1: the football. But but it's very important for the Ravens 304 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 1: in particular to make that defense defend every play of 305 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 1: grass on the field. So if they if they're not 306 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 1: forced into that position, then it just tightens up everything 307 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 1: in terms of the run game. It terms everything in 308 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 1: terms of the short and intermediate passing game. Just it 309 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 1: makes everything a lot more difficult. And it's easy to 310 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 1: point that things didn't work out, but some of them 311 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 1: were just Lamar's fault. Lamar badly through the ball late 312 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 1: the Brown in the end zone, a great ball to 313 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 1: Andrews for the touchdown. Another opportunity Andrews on the right 314 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 1: side of the end zone for a touchdown that under 315 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 1: threw the ball. So some of it is just Lamar, 316 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 1: you know, off on these throws. And and the other 317 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 1: one that was the great third down conversion to Andrews 318 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 1: that was you know, deep but he but he fought 319 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 1: a spot that was open on the field. And you know, 320 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 1: I just I think they do need to do more 321 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 1: to scheme up long throws to Hollywood. The problem is 322 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 1: that you really saw on the Andrews touchdown. Standard dynamic 323 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 1: is that if Hollywood and Andrews have an overlapping route 324 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 1: combination where the safety has to make a choice between 325 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 1: one and the other, safety will follow Brown. And that's 326 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 1: why Andrews is getting a lot of these good chances. 327 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 1: If you look back at the touchdown from the top few, 328 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 1: you'll see exactly that happen. Is the cornerback Follows follows Andrews. 329 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 1: The safety has to make a decision and he goes 330 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 1: so he goes to hop on Brown's route on the 331 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 1: end zone, and that left Andrew's wide open. So we'd 332 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 1: love to scheme up some shots for Hollywood and get 333 00:15:57,160 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 1: some easier and catch kind of throws or even throw 334 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 1: to us and spot grows. But the defense is right 335 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 1: now is deciding that Brown is the guy we want 336 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 1: to cook. It kind of makes me think about last 337 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 1: year and how maybe Week one against the Dolphins they 338 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 1: hit that long shot to to Hollywood. You know, in 339 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 1: his first game, they also hit the long one on 340 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 1: the quick slant, but I'm talking about the deep throw. 341 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 1: And then week two against the Cardinals, Lamar hits Hollywood 342 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 1: again down the right sideline for a deep game that 343 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 1: that could have like set the table. That probably did 344 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 1: set the table for the offense in some ways. And 345 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 1: then from that point on, at least, you know, for 346 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 1: a few games, a few weeks, people had to fear 347 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 1: that kind of play. Yeah, absolutely, and and that especially 348 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 1: that really low percentage throw down the right sideline. What 349 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 1: I loved about that from Brown was that he he 350 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 1: made that space to make his quick outward move at 351 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 1: the end of that route. But that's a that's a 352 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 1: perfect example of making forcing the defense to defend every 353 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 1: blode of grass. So let's slip it over to the 354 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 1: defensive side. I think that the easy thing to point 355 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 1: out on the defensive side, and it doesn't you don't 356 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 1: need to be a film expert to see this. The 357 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:05,120 Speaker 1: Ram's got to tackle better. Uh yeah, I got that one. Yeah, 358 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 1: that was That was one that I think anybody watched 359 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 1: the Game of the Couch can identify, especially that A J. 360 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:11,880 Speaker 1: Brown play late in the fourth quarter. But let's dig 361 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 1: a little deeper. What was it that the defense struggle 362 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 1: with so much on Sunday with? Well, I guess we's 363 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 1: start with they only had four defensive lineman active and 364 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:21,879 Speaker 1: they had to play thirty seven snaps of based defense, 365 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 1: which requires three defensive linement to play. So if you 366 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:27,399 Speaker 1: if they're gonna do that, they really need to have 367 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:30,639 Speaker 1: more than four actives. They had a very high utilization 368 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:33,440 Speaker 1: of a defensive lineman and as we're not up to it, 369 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:36,680 Speaker 1: I mean Matta, b K and Washington were entirely shut 370 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:39,160 Speaker 1: out of the defensive score sheet. They also had zero 371 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 1: pressures between them and in fact, they in seventy four 372 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:45,439 Speaker 1: ask snaps aggregate. Among the four defensive linemen, they had 373 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:49,200 Speaker 1: only one pressure that was Ellis, So really they didn't 374 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:52,879 Speaker 1: get contributions for the defensive line. Those guys think everybody's 375 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 1: trying very hard. Nobody's doubting effort in any way, shape 376 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 1: or form. I've heard questions to that extent, but I 377 00:17:57,359 --> 00:17:59,679 Speaker 1: don't believe that, not even for a second. But they 378 00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:03,400 Speaker 1: just were not up to these being handled double team 379 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 1: after double team after double team. And what that men is, 380 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 1: you know, point three seconds earlier, point two seconds earlier, 381 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 1: that second on the double team is able to break off, 382 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 1: get to level two and block a linebacker. So it's 383 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:16,680 Speaker 1: really it really created a lot of problems in the 384 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:21,159 Speaker 1: run game. Or so is the game war on you know, 385 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:24,160 Speaker 1: and on the run game. If you're talking about the linebackers, 386 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:26,640 Speaker 1: I think that's that's movie. The conversations the rookie linebackers, 387 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:30,680 Speaker 1: Patrick Queen, Emilie Harrison. What's your assessment so far of Queen? 388 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 1: You know, he's had some big time moments, He's had 389 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 1: some big plays. Um, there's also been times where he's, 390 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 1: you know, he's gotten beat, whether it's you know, and 391 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:40,399 Speaker 1: run or pass coverage. Um, what's your assessment of the 392 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 1: first round pick? Okay, I'd like to step back from 393 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 1: this for a second and just just talk about ray Lewis. Alright, 394 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 1: a little history. I like, all right, it's one of 395 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 1: these things where no matter what, it seems like, I'm 396 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 1: beating up on Queen, but um only sixty seven percent 397 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 1: of the snaps he was effectively a two down linebacker. 398 00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 1: He came off the field on high level past situations 399 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 1: for the great Bennie Thompson, who was a special team's 400 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 1: acelay great Benny Thompson. We remember Thompson a quarter role 401 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 1: a quarterback, sorry, a quarter defensive back role, meaning the 402 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:14,159 Speaker 1: seventh defensive back on the field for a hundred and 403 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:18,440 Speaker 1: sixteen snaps that season. Well, you know, expecting all this 404 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:21,359 Speaker 1: out of Queen in season one is not reasonable. But 405 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 1: on the other hand, the two thousand twenty Ravens where 406 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 1: they are, can't afford to grade queens performance on the 407 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:29,639 Speaker 1: curve because they need to know what they can get 408 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 1: out of him in these next six games to make 409 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 1: the playoffs. And that's very important. So the fact that 410 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:37,400 Speaker 1: he's been great without a preseason, the fact that he's 411 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 1: been great for someone who's just learning the position, the 412 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 1: fact that all rookies struggle, you know, all true, but 413 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:45,239 Speaker 1: it can't affect how the Ravens treat him in these 414 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 1: remaining six games. The truth is the Queen really has 415 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 1: not played all that well, and the tackling is the 416 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 1: five hundred pound elephant in the room. Or that's actually 417 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 1: the elephant the room, not the five hundred poun elephant drilla. 418 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 1: It's a gerrilla and an elephant walk into a run. 419 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 1: There's something about nine dollars a drink at the end 420 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:07,639 Speaker 1: of that joke, I know. But anyway, he's used to 421 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 1: sideline to sideline speed well when he's when he's had 422 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:13,400 Speaker 1: an open chase the quarterback opportunity, he's done some great 423 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 1: things with that. He's had some games where he's been 424 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 1: pretty good in terms of run disciplines, and you know 425 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 1: there's some of the games where hasn't been good with gaps. 426 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 1: He hasn't been good in coverage in general. And why 427 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 1: is that important? Well, the Ravens have a great secondary, 428 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:28,920 Speaker 1: So every opposing quarterback is and an offensive coordinator is 429 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 1: trying to find what's the weakest spot in the Ravens 430 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:33,440 Speaker 1: And guess what, it's the inside linebacker positions. It's not 431 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 1: just Queen, it's Queen, it's Board and Harrison. All of 432 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 1: whom our targets then for the passing game and that 433 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 1: short crossing routes and and the all the over the 434 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 1: middle of the field stuff that tight ends can do 435 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:47,920 Speaker 1: against play action right and Tayas Bowser, I mean he 436 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 1: comes up with the interception. What have you seen from him? 437 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 1: Particularly in coverage? And he's having a great year. He's 438 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:54,399 Speaker 1: by far the Ravens best coverage linebacker. And for an 439 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 1: outside linebacker to be the Ravens best coverage linebacker is 440 00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 1: not a good thing. But he's really important. I did 441 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:02,399 Speaker 1: my know your Phoe episode with the Patriots guy, and 442 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:05,639 Speaker 1: he's already salivating over them getting Bowser and Judan and 443 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 1: they have all the money to do it next year. 444 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:10,879 Speaker 1: Garret's been on that. Yeah, Garrit's been calling the big 445 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 1: contract retires for a while now. Yeah, what do you think? 446 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 1: Do you think he'll get a big deal this offseason? Ken, 447 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,119 Speaker 1: He'll get a good deal. I don't you know. This 448 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:19,919 Speaker 1: is one of these things where the Patriots are one 449 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:21,680 Speaker 1: of the teams you can just pick the bones of 450 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 1: other teams because nobody's gonna have money in the COVID cap. 451 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 1: But you know, I think he'll five million a year, 452 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 1: six million a year. He might get more. Yeah, I 453 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 1: will say this, watching the Green Bay Packers and scenarios 454 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:37,640 Speaker 1: Smith blowing up teams weekly just makes me feel sad. Yeah, 455 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:40,639 Speaker 1: that's the one. That's the one. Uh. The Ravens have 456 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 1: such a great track record when they let a guy leave, 457 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 1: it really doesn't hurt him all at all, all that much. 458 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 1: And the guys who have left us haven't necessarily gone 459 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 1: on to great things. So Darius is the exception to that. 460 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:53,200 Speaker 1: He is definitely the exception to that. Let's talk about 461 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 1: another outside linebacker, d end Yanni go Way, what have 462 00:21:58,160 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 1: you seen from him? I mean, obviously he got his 463 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 1: for sack and a sack strip, but his his snap 464 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 1: count went down against the Titans. What do you make 465 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 1: of that? And how Yanique has played soo far? Okay, 466 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:10,360 Speaker 1: first of all, don't worry at all about the snapgunt 467 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 1: going down. They're trying to use him as a situational 468 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:16,440 Speaker 1: pass rusher and that's the appropriate way he should be played. 469 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 1: He's too small to play an effective edge setting outside 470 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 1: linebacker role against the runs, so they don't really want 471 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,200 Speaker 1: to have him in there on first down if he's 472 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 1: been on for a few but he's his snaps are 473 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 1: much more heavily weighted towards second and long, certain certain 474 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 1: medium long kind of situations. He's been exactly the kind 475 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 1: of one armed pass rusher that he showed to be 476 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 1: on tape to the Vikings, where he does not approach 477 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:42,639 Speaker 1: looking for a bull rush. Ever against that tackle, he 478 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 1: looks to try and get one arm up and he 479 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 1: either gets the shoulder of the offensive tackle on the 480 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 1: outside to try and and and tork him around the 481 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:55,920 Speaker 1: pocket quickly, or he chops down the outside arm of 482 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,440 Speaker 1: that offensive tackle to make progress as he did this 483 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:01,159 Speaker 1: h this last sunthing on the sack. So I love 484 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 1: what he does and how that helps the rest of 485 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,200 Speaker 1: the offensive line. Is that creates a gaping be gap, 486 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 1: because I should say so, there's there's linebackers that can 487 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 1: rush through the safeties. You could rush through there. You 488 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:11,920 Speaker 1: can get the slot corner if he's on the same 489 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,680 Speaker 1: side to rush through there. You can get stunts to 490 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 1: go through there. But gaping holes in the offensive line 491 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 1: are generally a good thing for pass rush scheme. So 492 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 1: it's a very positive thing for martindale system. And I 493 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 1: think not only is he going to play great, the 494 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 1: rest of the way. I think Judan will be the 495 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 1: big beneficiary, particularly because of the off ball snaps they've 496 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:33,399 Speaker 1: had him have when they've had the four outside linebacker 497 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 1: package on the field. I want to call race car mhmm. 498 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:38,719 Speaker 1: So do you do you think for him? I mean, 499 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 1: I know there are people were starting to get a 500 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 1: little the grumbles had started after he had not gotten 501 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 1: a sack in his first couple of games, and what's 502 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:48,360 Speaker 1: going on? Was this worth it? Where is this guy? 503 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 1: And I agree, I thought he played his best game 504 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,200 Speaker 1: as a raven on Sunday and you saw that. I 505 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:55,159 Speaker 1: also think, as I've said before, that part of the 506 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:57,440 Speaker 1: reason he didn't get any sacks earlier in the season, 507 00:23:57,600 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 1: in some part is that he was playing guys that 508 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 1: got rid of the ball quick pale or uh the 509 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:03,439 Speaker 1: Patriots who it was just a monsoon and they were 510 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 1: hardly throwing the ball at all. They were just running 511 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 1: it right through the middle of defense. So but you 512 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 1: think that he's gonna be you like what you've seen 513 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 1: from him, and you think he's going to be a 514 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 1: big contributor down the stretch here. Yeah, absolutely, And you 515 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,159 Speaker 1: hit on it exactly. Rivers and Roethlisberger got rid of 516 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 1: the ball really quickly, and so he may not have 517 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 1: the same kind of big game against Roethlisberger this week, 518 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 1: but I think down the stretch they'll play a lot 519 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 1: of jittery quarterbacks and you know, not complete offensive lines, 520 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 1: and they should have some good opportunities within goquay m. 521 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:32,880 Speaker 1: Let's go to Marcus Peters. You know, he's the guy 522 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 1: that I think had some some struggles against the Titans. Uh, 523 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:39,400 Speaker 1: you know the mistackle on a J. Brown on that touchdown. 524 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:43,120 Speaker 1: Are you seeing any kind of patterns with Marcus that's 525 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 1: considering you at all? The play action people think of 526 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 1: that as, oh, the cornerbacks are not really impact. It's 527 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 1: the linebackers who are getting beate in the middle with 528 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 1: play action. But that's not necessarily the case. And what 529 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:59,640 Speaker 1: happened this last week was that Tanne Hills play action, 530 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:02,639 Speaker 1: which by the way, occurred almost every single first and 531 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:05,920 Speaker 1: second down snap where Henry was behind him, just out 532 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 1: of course they ran play action. If you look back 533 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 1: then it's just snap after snap after snap. And the 534 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 1: the problem was the outside linebacker is fighting on the 535 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 1: inside linebackers does create opportunities in the middle of the field. 536 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 1: The outside linebacker if he bites on the fake, it 537 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 1: creates an ample time and space opportunity for that quarterback 538 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 1: lift probably at least three seconds to throw the ball. 539 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 1: And that happened a fair amount in this last game, 540 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 1: and that that allowed some of the deeper plays where 541 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 1: then I'm free or um uh, here's case is left 542 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 1: on an island outside, and that that's a much more 543 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,640 Speaker 1: difficult play for him to make. Peters is a guy 544 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:44,159 Speaker 1: who plays off what the pass rush is doing. Extremely 545 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 1: cerebral player understands completely how to undercut a route based 546 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 1: on what the pass rush is doing. We saw that 547 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 1: in the Cincinnati interception six last year undercut a route 548 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:56,160 Speaker 1: where he knew it was going to be a three 549 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 1: step drop and a quick outpass. So isn't this kind 550 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:03,639 Speaker 1: kind of um, I guess the good and bad with 551 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 1: Marcus Like that's kind of been the story in his 552 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 1: career that he plays off at times. He's not known 553 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 1: as a super physical guy in the run game. You know, 554 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:16,879 Speaker 1: he's he's he guesses at times, but he's you know, 555 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 1: right a lot. And so you get the good where 556 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,120 Speaker 1: you have the pick sixes and you have the production 557 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 1: you know, from a turnover standpoint, but then he does 558 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 1: get beat at times. I just feel like that's kind 559 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:29,200 Speaker 1: of been who Peters has has been throughout his career 560 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 1: and through the first season and a half of him 561 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 1: his time with Ravens. Basically, we've seen the good, the 562 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:37,879 Speaker 1: very good, and I feel like this is one of 563 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 1: the games where you got the bad. Yeah, I would 564 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 1: agree with that. Um, you know, he's he's not even 565 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,160 Speaker 1: put in a position. I didn't think in this game 566 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:47,479 Speaker 1: to gamble the way he has. I thought like, if 567 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 1: you want to look at another game where he gambled 568 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 1: and he lost, I look at the Kansas City game 569 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,119 Speaker 1: this year. Right tried to come around and gamble on 570 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 1: the McCole Hardman touchdown. Um, but he doesn't have to 571 00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:58,680 Speaker 1: win a high percentage of his gambles to make it 572 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 1: really worth it. And that's where people like get too 573 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,200 Speaker 1: upset and you say you're right on the money, Garrett. 574 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,680 Speaker 1: I'm yeah, I think I think exactly. I thought you 575 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:08,920 Speaker 1: put it right. If he if he misses on a 576 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:10,879 Speaker 1: couple of them, but then the other the ones that 577 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:12,680 Speaker 1: he hits on is to pick six, then you'll take it. 578 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,440 Speaker 1: You'll you'll take some of those misses. I guess, ken 579 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 1: I was just interested in. You know, you talk about 580 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,119 Speaker 1: Jude On having a strong second half, you think to 581 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 1: this season or not quite second half, but strong finish 582 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 1: this season. Are there only any other guys that you 583 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 1: look at on offense or defense and you say, okay, 584 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:31,880 Speaker 1: I expect that for the remainder of the year, this guy, 585 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 1: based on what I'm seeing on film, could kind of emerge. Yeah, 586 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 1: there's I mean, some of the play on the offensive 587 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:40,680 Speaker 1: line has really surprised me, so it might have some 588 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:44,200 Speaker 1: guys there on on defense. Now mc fee is playing 589 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 1: at very high level right now, and he's he's a 590 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 1: beneficiary of what's going on. I've like completely crap by 591 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:53,359 Speaker 1: the way personal foul and on the rough of the 592 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 1: passer that was that was huge. That Not to make 593 00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:58,680 Speaker 1: this a blame the refs game, but that was a 594 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:00,879 Speaker 1: huge call when I guess right, it was there was 595 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 1: a total total miss total bs and and and the 596 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:07,440 Speaker 1: the other one was the the marking the ball short 597 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 1: on the Lamar run really tossing him. So on the 598 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 1: offensive line, um play at right tackle has been remarkably 599 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 1: good since brown vacated the position, and Browns also played 600 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 1: great left tackle, So we looked at this team as 601 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:22,960 Speaker 1: a team that actually only had two listed tackles to 602 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 1: start the season and for most of the team, but 603 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 1: now they've come up and Will Holden had a good 604 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 1: game this last week and and Flucker had a recovery 605 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 1: game that was really good. I have only for five 606 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 1: miss blocks, even though I thought he should have been 607 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 1: flagged for holding when Powers was he Uh, he actually 608 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 1: only had five miss bloxes. I scored it, so they 609 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 1: both played very well and Uh and Flucker had two 610 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 1: other good games in one terrible game. Among those, he's 611 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,320 Speaker 1: really played at a at a high level, and McCarry 612 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 1: played well in his half there, so it's been remarkably successful. 613 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 1: I think in terms of what they got Powers two penalties, 614 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 1: he really needs to clean up from this game. But 615 00:28:58,600 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 1: I think he's also a guy who who held the 616 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 1: raven sound stretch. Hey, one more that I got is 617 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 1: what do you think of des Is return? Um, I'm 618 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 1: not as excited about it as I think most people are. 619 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:12,720 Speaker 1: I mean, they do the level five times for twenty 620 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 1: eight yards. There's nothing about that the Ravens want or 621 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 1: that they shouldn't have expected from Dez Bryant coming. If 622 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 1: you took the name off of it. Would people be 623 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 1: jacked up about it? And and you know these smoke 624 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 1: routs that that game five and three yards. I'm like, well, 625 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 1: let us have risk. I mean, you know, the ball 626 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 1: will go in complete occasionally, probably won't be intercepted very 627 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 1: often when the guys that far off the kind of scrimmage, 628 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 1: but you also have some fumble risk that goes with it, 629 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 1: and they're not going to end up being thirty yard place. 630 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 1: So you know, you're I just don't like the uh 631 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 1: you know, I don't see the attraction to it as 632 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 1: much as as some of the other things you can do. 633 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 1: And honestly, it's a red zone threats and one of 634 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 1: the other places he's been brought up the Ravens don't 635 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:55,040 Speaker 1: really need traditional red zone threats. They need guys who 636 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 1: can find space in the end zone because Jackson makes 637 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 1: the throwing lane with his legs. So the Ravens almost 638 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 1: never run a fade route. They didn't at zero touchdowns 639 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:06,320 Speaker 1: on fade routes in two thousand nineteen. And you know, 640 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 1: it's it's something that uh, you know, it's just they 641 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 1: don't need a red zone threaten the same way other 642 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 1: teams too, Right, That's what makes Mark Andrews in Parts 643 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,600 Speaker 1: such a touchdown monsters because he had he feels those 644 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 1: opening so well and he can really play off all 645 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 1: the mars doing interesting well. Great stuff, Ken, We really 646 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 1: appreciate it For all your listeners out there. You can 647 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 1: find Ken's work at film Study Baltimore dot com. Really 648 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 1: excellent work. Thanks for joining us again. 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Great stuff from Ken. Uh. I don't know 659 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 1: if it makes you feel better or worse. I think better. 660 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 1: I think I think a little bit better. Sure, Sure, 661 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 1: I look if you're looking for some things that I 662 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 1: think that are positives from this game, which I think 663 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 1: that let's be positive. You know, we we we pointed 664 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:29,560 Speaker 1: out some flaws, we pointed out some issues, but here's 665 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:31,720 Speaker 1: some things I think that we should be positive about. 666 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 1: J K. Dobbins is certainly something to be positive about. Obviously, 667 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:37,880 Speaker 1: it's it stinks that he's now on the COVID list 668 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 1: and so, um, you know, that's a big blow and 669 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 1: it feels like, all right, he's gonna be the guy 670 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:45,840 Speaker 1: moving forward. Um, But I thought that was real positive. 671 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 1: I know Ken's not thrilled with you know, based on 672 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 1: what he said, you know on Deaz it's not like 673 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 1: he's he's quite as excited as I think a lot 674 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 1: of fans are. But the fact that the guy hasn't 675 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 1: played since seen he got out there and was playing 676 00:31:56,880 --> 00:32:00,160 Speaker 1: in some obviously crucial moments of that game. I think 677 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 1: that was encouraging. That was a bit of a bright spot. 678 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 1: And I think that he's like, is he going to 679 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 1: be the guy that he was five years ago? No, 680 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:10,440 Speaker 1: obviously not, But can't he give you something? Could he? 681 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 1: He gave you something on that last drive. He gave 682 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 1: you something on that last drive of regulation and got 683 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 1: you in position to potentially go win the game there. 684 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 1: He McCarry stapped the ball earlier, though, and when you 685 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 1: go back and look at that play, I don't know, 686 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:26,240 Speaker 1: no one's really explained that. But when you go back 687 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 1: and look at that play, Lamar wasn't looking for the football, 688 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,719 Speaker 1: He wasn't a fall start, just wasn't say McCarry snapped 689 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 1: it early. So I'm encouraged by daz Um and what 690 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 1: he could bring to this offense. Well, he That's what 691 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 1: I'm encouraged by. Is I mean, the Ravens are in 692 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:42,080 Speaker 1: position to win that game. It gets a very good 693 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:44,160 Speaker 1: Tighten team, you know, you help you really kind of 694 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 1: handcuffed Derrick Henry for three quarters. I mean, it wasn't 695 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 1: like I know that everybody's really down and we feel 696 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 1: it too. Man. It's a bummer like the Ravens and 697 00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,480 Speaker 1: everybody's still compared to the last year, and that just 698 00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 1: makes the pain hurt even more. And and it's stay 699 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 1: to be having the claw scratching claw fe your playoff 700 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:04,720 Speaker 1: position all that stuff. But it's not like the Ravens 701 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 1: are playing like really bad football, you know. I mean, 702 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 1: they they certainly could have beaten the Titans. They certainly 703 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 1: could have beaten New England, certainly could have beaten the Steelers, 704 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 1: as I've said to five hundred times now, they only 705 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 1: got smoked by the Chiefs. Okay, And so really I 706 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 1: think this team is better then their record suggests. Right now. Now, 707 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 1: your record is what it is, right. You don't get 708 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,800 Speaker 1: bonus points, you don't get style points. But I'm just 709 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:35,560 Speaker 1: saying it's not like the Ravens are a terrible team anymore. 710 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,680 Speaker 1: They have a look at this, Okay, So Cleveland is 711 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:41,760 Speaker 1: seven and three, one game ahead of the Ravens. Right, 712 00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 1: Cleveland has a negative twenty three minus twenty three point differential. 713 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:49,200 Speaker 1: They've been outscored by twenty three points, and they're seven 714 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:53,680 Speaker 1: and three. The Ravens are plus seventy three and they're 715 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:58,120 Speaker 1: six and four. Like, what the hell? It's just like 716 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 1: one of those years where like, does everything have to 717 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,800 Speaker 1: go against this this year? Is that how it's gonna work? 718 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,200 Speaker 1: Like you have this magical fourth team in two years 719 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,040 Speaker 1: and now all of a sudden, the football gods just 720 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 1: hate you. I don't understand it. Yeah, I wasn't cursed. 721 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,640 Speaker 1: I was encouraged after hearing the players talk this week. 722 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:17,600 Speaker 1: You know, Mark Andrews. There wasn't it just and I 723 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 1: didn't take it as lip service, like there seemed to 724 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 1: be a lot of optimism that they could they could 725 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:24,960 Speaker 1: right the ship and that they can still be a 726 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 1: really good team. Mark Andrews had good things to say 727 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,799 Speaker 1: about that. Um Lamar compared it to his rookie season 728 00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:31,680 Speaker 1: when he came in, and you know, obviously that's different. 729 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,919 Speaker 1: There was a quarterback change there that sparked the team. 730 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:38,080 Speaker 1: So you don't have that. But the market better to 731 00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:40,640 Speaker 1: the rookies is rookie season, and they were out of 732 00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:42,440 Speaker 1: the mix. And then they went on a run to 733 00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:44,760 Speaker 1: win six of their last seven games and make the playoffs. 734 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:48,080 Speaker 1: And I do feel like there is a notion that 735 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:51,040 Speaker 1: this team is not battle tested because everything came easy 736 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:52,439 Speaker 1: last year and then they lost in the first round 737 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:55,440 Speaker 1: of the playoffs. Now they're going through they're going through 738 00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:57,880 Speaker 1: some battles. They are Lamar's going through some battles and 739 00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:01,400 Speaker 1: and this is the time to see, uh, you know, 740 00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:03,040 Speaker 1: what the team's made up. We talked about it like 741 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,120 Speaker 1: multiple weeks in a row that we would find out 742 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,799 Speaker 1: a lot about this team in November. Well, we don't 743 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 1: like it so far. You know, we don't like Deve 744 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:11,600 Speaker 1: ever so far, but that can change quickly if the 745 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:13,760 Speaker 1: Ravens are able to get a win against the Steelers. 746 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:17,400 Speaker 1: Ravens finished the season at eleven and five. Book it, Garrett, 747 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:21,719 Speaker 1: book it that eleven five gets you in, get you in, 748 00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:25,800 Speaker 1: oh with an extended, expanded ex playoff field, for I 749 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:29,520 Speaker 1: would be shocked if it didn't. Um. So you have 750 00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:33,600 Speaker 1: at Steelers, then home versus the Cowboys at Browns, so 751 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:36,560 Speaker 1: the Steelers Browns games are the toughest. Then verse the 752 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:39,360 Speaker 1: Jaguars at home against the Jags, at home against the Giants, 753 00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:43,200 Speaker 1: and then at Bengals who just lost Joe Burrow. So 754 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,759 Speaker 1: the Ravens have, to your point, a chance here to 755 00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:48,799 Speaker 1: rattle off some wins if they can get a kick 756 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:50,880 Speaker 1: started against the Steelers. And why the heck not, why 757 00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:52,359 Speaker 1: can't they run the table the rest of the way 758 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:55,080 Speaker 1: and just finished twelve and four? I take that too. 759 00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:57,719 Speaker 1: I take that to you beat the Steelers. You beat 760 00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,360 Speaker 1: the Steelers that they're placed on Thanksgiving. You might be 761 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:03,120 Speaker 1: looking at the twelve and four. You know what, my glass, 762 00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,640 Speaker 1: the water in my glass just went up a little bit. 763 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:15,720 Speaker 1: I'm back to half. It's crowding Royale. Look, the history 764 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:19,480 Speaker 1: suggests Steelers aren't gonna go sixteen, or now it just does. Yeah, 765 00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:22,239 Speaker 1: history suggests are not gonna go sixteen. And now so 766 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:24,920 Speaker 1: someone's gonna beat him. Who's a better team than the Rains? 767 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:28,279 Speaker 1: Why not us? Why? Oh? I like it? We got 768 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:31,200 Speaker 1: John Harball in the pod. Now we got John Hardball 769 00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:34,120 Speaker 1: on the pod. Anyway, thanks for listening. As always, you 770 00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:37,120 Speaker 1: can reach us at the lounge at Ravens dot NFL 771 00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:42,000 Speaker 1: dot net and we'll be back with you after turkey stuffing, 772 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:47,000 Speaker 1: some some school, some sweet potato, supertata pie or thanks 773 00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,239 Speaker 1: or a pumpkin pie. Guys, I like pumpkin pie. Oh, 774 00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:53,600 Speaker 1: terrible choice, super tato pie, turkey and you well, you 775 00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:56,000 Speaker 1: have a dry Thanksgiving to enjoy that. At least I 776 00:36:56,040 --> 00:37:02,800 Speaker 1: can forget some at my very wet thanks guy. What 777 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,040 Speaker 1: about Thanksgiving night? What do we get Thanksgiving Night? We're 778 00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:16,160 Speaker 1: gonna get them all right. That's for dessert, that's for dessert. Yeah,