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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season one, seventy six,

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Speaker 1: episode four. Nah, it's episode five of Daily Said Guys

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Speaker 1: to production of My Heart Radio. This is a podcast

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Speaker 1: where we take a deep dive into America's share consciousness.

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Speaker 1: It is Friday, March nineteen. My name is Jack O'Brien

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Speaker 1: a K. Yeah, cold gas makes my food all stinky.

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Speaker 1: That's not the point now, And cold gas gets st

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Speaker 1: on my wallpaper. You missed the point now, and cold

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Speaker 1: gas cooks my roast uneven. Still not the point now,

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Speaker 1: second degree, So as side prevention, that's why it's bad. Now,

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Speaker 1: did it beat? Did eat? Beat it up? Beat? But

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Speaker 1: abadabadabad courtesy. That's russel and I'm throwing it out. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's still He's stuck it on there, baby, he put

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Speaker 1: it on there. I'm thrilled to be joined as always,

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Speaker 1: buy my co host, Mr Miles Grad. I'm a joker.

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Speaker 1: I'm a poker from my PS controller, I speak of

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Speaker 1: the incompetence of God. Yeah, hey, angry, I smoke weed

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Speaker 1: and I throw a PlayStation controllers in the government facts.

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Speaker 1: That's all there. Thanks Steve Miller. More importantly, thanks Johnny

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Speaker 1: Davis for the discord lob there for the ak throw

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Speaker 1: it down? Yes, did you throw down all oops? In? Uh?

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Speaker 1: In NBA? Jam I feel like that was missing in

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Speaker 1: the version that I've played. Yeah, I don't know. I

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Speaker 1: think NBA streets He's thrown down. I was like, is

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Speaker 1: that this is me? Throw it down? Well? You you

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Speaker 1: toss it up and then you throw it down Jamie. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: oh wait, no, yeah you could because there was Yes,

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Speaker 1: you totally could. Man. I feel like such a fool.

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Speaker 1: Uh well, we are thrilled to be joined in our

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Speaker 1: third de seat by the very first face on Mount Zitemore,

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Speaker 1: the hilarious, the brilliant, the talented, the incomparable Jamie Loft.

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Speaker 1: He leaves. I will shown some light on what's going

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Speaker 1: on today. We've got lots of discussions on fascists and COVID.

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Speaker 1: Let's share what they have to say. The news is

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Speaker 1: really effing said, let's talk about it with my podcast

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Speaker 1: Dad from Bad Beautiful, The Fun Inside One. Yeah. Wow,

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Speaker 1: that was I feel like honored that we got that.

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Speaker 1: That's that's beautiful, powerful crossover energy. Yeah yes, Jamie, how

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Speaker 1: are you doing? Uh you know? Uh yeah, that's perfect. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: just a real rasberry. It's you know it is what

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Speaker 1: it is every time, every time you think that things

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Speaker 1: are looking up, then all of a sudden, guess what,

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Speaker 1: something terrible happens. And it's not when you think you're

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Speaker 1: out right back in you're doing, you're doing, and I'm

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Speaker 1: trying to get to I've been trying to get to

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Speaker 1: the scat level. But that's like you're I'm scatting. I

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Speaker 1: think that's my that's my equivalent of like playing the

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Speaker 1: fiddle as the world burns is I'm just gonna scat

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Speaker 1: as it all falls. How do I feel? Actually grabbed

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Speaker 1: that upright based behind me? But dogs, he dogs, the

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Speaker 1: town never knew such a hell. I sometimes worried that, like,

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Speaker 1: not enough people have seen that clip. I agree, so purifying.

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Speaker 1: If you don't know what Miles was just interpreting there,

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Speaker 1: you need to google Kim Cantrell. Uhcat, that'll do it. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And the context of her desperately trying to make her

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Speaker 1: marriage to a jazz bassist work, Like in the context

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Speaker 1: of that, it just there's just so much. It's more

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Speaker 1: than just her scatting, you know, like you really like,

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Speaker 1: where's she had? Okay, so she probably has a lot

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Speaker 1: times of a wedding like marriage that she's so yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's how like an algorithm came up with it. So

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Speaker 1: bleak the scatt that really, I mean, the town did

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Speaker 1: never like they have the town hasn't heard of such

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Speaker 1: a hullable. Since that's people have been saying, Yeah, the

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Speaker 1: scadding is worse than a pooh. Speaking of Kim control

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Speaker 1: and Pooh, I with the last time I tweeted about

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Speaker 1: Kim Contrall scatting, which was not too long ago, someone

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Speaker 1: said that there was like a story about Kim Cantrall

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Speaker 1: pooping on the side of the sidewalk ones like just

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Speaker 1: just like it can't wait. That almost feels like someone

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Speaker 1: it that way and that's how it came into the universe.

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Speaker 1: But that's that's amazing. Let's let's dig into that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: gang fact checkers can go out there. Uh love to

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Speaker 1: very weird. All right, Jamie, we're gonna get to know

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Speaker 1: you a little like what was it like like just

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Speaker 1: in terms of considers, like what are we talking like? Plato?

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Speaker 1: Like soft plato, hard plato? That's I kind of dried

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Speaker 1: up and you're like, oh, can't play with this anymore?

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Speaker 1: The word in man, let me in, Let me in.

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Speaker 1: Such a sad moment when you find the Plato that's

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Speaker 1: for that Plato hated play. It made my hands smell

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Speaker 1: weird always. All right, Jamie, we're gonna get to know

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Speaker 1: gonna tell our listeners a couple of the things we're

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Speaker 1: talking about today. So that uh, that sheriff, the bad

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Speaker 1: This what happened? Man? I'm's like the end of American

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Speaker 1: idol when someone gets kicked off. Man, you had a

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Speaker 1: bad day. You guys know this trope. It's part of

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Speaker 1: our culture. Yes, Now we found out a little bit

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Speaker 1: general combination of white supremacy, toxic masculinity that the response

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Speaker 1: connecting it to church culture. So we'll talk about that.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk about the man who was arrested out of

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Speaker 1: the VP residents with guns and AMMO. Uh. We'll talk

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Speaker 1: about COVID cases on the rise again in certain states. Uh.

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Speaker 1: We will say officially, fuck autism speaks. Uh there where

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Speaker 1: there's been yet again another another week, another ad network

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Speaker 1: issue where ads from a hateful group start appearing on

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Speaker 1: our show. They fucking vile. Yeah. Um so we're working

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Speaker 1: We'll talk about right wing media response to a gay

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Speaker 1: captain America. Uh. We'll talk about I already know just

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Speaker 1: the words, just words, Jack gay captain. What's next is

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Speaker 1: the sentence that comes right, That's always the pivot. What's next? Huh,

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Speaker 1: so now paca, I feel like that, what's next. Kim

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Speaker 1: to go like mash around in it without gloves. What's next? Honestly,

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Speaker 1: what's next? Guy? What's next? I gotta start a website

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Speaker 1: where I stream my activities. What's next? Check me out

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Speaker 1: from your search history? Um? Okay, So Kim Control scouting

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Speaker 1: How is it? And then but if you're a musician,

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Speaker 1: I love her. That's amazing. I I love that, especially,

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Speaker 1: like I would like to view that next to another

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Speaker 1: like a director's commentary from those films who's like being

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Speaker 1: it's a it's final destiny. She was the music director

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Speaker 1: sorry her death is tragic, as I mean it was before. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Emmy for Batman the Animated Series. She's really cool. I

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Speaker 1: She's awesome, And so I'll post that clip of her

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Speaker 1: explaining her grossometer composition system because it's great. We will

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Speaker 1: put that in the footnotes. I respect Final Destination, the

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Speaker 1: Final Destination film franchise like the same way that you

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Speaker 1: respect like a children's book author that just like taps

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Speaker 1: mouth mechanic. Have your teeth rotated yet my teeth rotate?

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Speaker 1: What is what something that you think is underrated? Oh? Uh?

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Speaker 1: sorts of churros and we bought them, and they're so good,

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Speaker 1: and just like a fragile man, he collaps ops when

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Speaker 1: you didn't extol all the virtues delicious. All Right, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna take a break and we'll come back and talk

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Speaker 1: about fragile men. And we're back, so let's talk about

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Speaker 1: we We referenced the fact that in the aftermath of

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Speaker 1: the math murder of Asian women in Georgia on Tuesday,

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00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 1: the police were just very um dying to humanize the

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00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 1: guy who committed the murder, said he was having a

429
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 1: bad day, said he just lashed out, blamed his problems

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00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 1: on addiction. And so people just started doing a little

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00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 1: little research on the police who were who were making

432
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 1: these observations on the murderer's behalf research are just looked

433
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 1: at their Facebook. How did they get down on Facebook?

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00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 1: And Captain j Baker was in like dude, marcht he

435
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 1: was already out here like hawking China virus t shirts

436
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 1: because he's said, oh new design alert, announcing a new

437
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 1: design placed your blah blah. It's like this COVID nineteen

438
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 1: like a Corona beer font and it says like its

439
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 1: ex imported from China. So yes, of course, this same

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00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 1: police captain who's out here obscuring the actions of this uh,

441
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 1: you know, hateful white supremacist. Yeah, he's out here doing

442
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 1: the same thing, peddling more white supremacist propaganda, nonsense, hate, hateful,

443
00:29:56,520 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 1: vitriolic T shirts. Literally white supremacists murch like it's yeah,

444
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 1: it's just wild, because it's like, that's how white supremacy

445
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 1: is is just this. It's so systemic, So it always

446
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 1: feels like a set up, you know what I mean.

447
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 1: It's like they kill out of hate. But then there's

448
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 1: a white supremacist in a position of authority to then

449
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 1: obscure what actually happened, and because of their position of

450
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 1: authority of saying like, well, you know, I don't like

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00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 1: you think he was having a bad day, says something

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00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 1: about sex addiction, and then in turn, you have a

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00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 1: complicit media who's complicit in white supremacy, who then goes

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Speaker 1: on their mary way to debate sex addiction rather than

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Speaker 1: you know, the proliferation in hate crimes, or maybe even

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Speaker 1: speak of the hyper sexualization and fetish fetishization of Asians,

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00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 1: or how that in and of itself is an expression

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00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 1: of racism. Now, okay, maybe he was addicted to sex

459
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 1: is where it's end. They legitimately there were headlines that said, uh,

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00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 1: not racially motivated, like they they you just declared it.

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00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 1: They open and shut case. As far as a lot

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Speaker 1: of a lot of media outlets working well, I think

463
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 1: the next level is now that people have to realize

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00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 1: white supremacy just doesn't mean white people against black people,

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Speaker 1: you know. I think that's I think that's the next

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Speaker 1: stage we're at is clearly having to people to or

467
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 1: not most people understand what white supremacy is. But in

468
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 1: the media sense of like you have to you have

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00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 1: to begin describing this ship for what it is. This

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00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 1: is the same thing we've been running into since the summer. Yeah. Um,

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00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 1: the there was a shaff also involved who said the

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00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 1: shooter was lashing out and he people looked at his

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Speaker 1: background and from two thousand five to two thousand and

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Speaker 1: eight he worked for Blackwater the with Erk Prince. Yeah,

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00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 1: it is still such a like common media narrative to

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00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 1: treat police and sheriffs as credible sources that don't need

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Speaker 1: to be fact checked. And it's like that it's I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's like, how many examples do you need to prove that?

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00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 1: It's like that is very much not the case. But

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00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 1: it seems like there's so many media outlets that have

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Speaker 1: this vested interest in preserving their relationships with police forces

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00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 1: and like taking them at their word or what will happen.

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00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 1: And it's it's so absurd because you can literally go

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Speaker 1: to someone's Facebook and find out how like extremely racist

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00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 1: and biased and hateful they actually are and why you

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00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 1: shouldn't take them at their word under any circumstances. Like

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00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 1: it's just yeah, yeah, and it's in it's nicest form,

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00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 1: we should call them unreliable narrators. They're oh my god,

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00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 1: the way I feel like that's the next step. But

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00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 1: me uh and and looking at this seems to be

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Speaker 1: that these people may be unreliable narrators. Seems like maybe

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00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 1: they have a little bit of bias going on. It's

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00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 1: just it's fucking I don't know that that whole intuitive

494
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 1: Let's trust a cop when they're giving a press conference,

495
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 1: it's like, fucking why, like because they watched many Batman

496
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 1: movies and ships Gordon speaking, you know, it's like no,

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00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:10,959
Speaker 1: this this guy is also a white supremacist, like this

498
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 1: just be like why don't you talk about that one?

499
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 1: But I get to for them, it's like, well then

500
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 1: we don't get the scoops on all the local robberies

501
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 1: for our you know, clickbait articles and news spots that

502
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 1: we do to keep people in this loop of fear,

503
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 1: which helps us, you know, get more higher ratings rather

504
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 1: than actually inform people about what's happening to contribute to

505
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 1: like a more informed population. But you know that's not

506
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 1: what this is about anymore. They need those white supremacy clicks.

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00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 1: The the you can tell how important that system is

508
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 1: the media like supporting the police are, Like how important

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00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 1: that is to the police. How much a part of

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00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 1: the system the police know that is by how petulant

511
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Speaker 1: lee they respond anytime they're accused of white supremacy race

512
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 1: them because I'll tell you know, like if journalists want

513
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 1: to that you can. You can report on crime and

514
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:09,319
Speaker 1: stuff without the police cooperating with you. Yeah. Yeah, Like

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00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,880
Speaker 1: you don't need them to be able to sure they

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00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,439
Speaker 1: were maybe documents and questions they can answer, but there's

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00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 1: a lot of information you can access freely that like

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00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:19,719
Speaker 1: rather than feeling like, oh, but you got to be

519
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 1: in with them, because then they're gonna release juicy details

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00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 1: before other people. And it's like, is that even the

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00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:27,919
Speaker 1: best way to do let it? No, It's like, how

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00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,800
Speaker 1: is that narrative going to result in a factual report,

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00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:35,720
Speaker 1: it never is going to I hate Yeah, I can't

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Speaker 1: place the story, but I was reading something about somebody

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00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 1: who like was reporting on something or doing something that

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Speaker 1: a police officer wasn't happy with and they threatened to

527
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 1: They were like, well, you know, it's gonna be hard

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Speaker 1: for us to like come protect you, like we want

529
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 1: to protect you, but it's it's gonna be hard for

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00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 1: us to any time like That's That's the other thing

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Speaker 1: is they are right. They're the people who are legally

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00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 1: allowed to murder people with impunity. So uh it also

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00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:15,919
Speaker 1: you know, just from a physical safety standpoint, I think

534
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:20,839
Speaker 1: people probably that probably helps as well, helps them kind

535
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 1: of maintain that position where they're like, he had a

536
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 1: bad day. Now let's get back to uh the sick

537
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 1: action maneuver from fast and the furious we used to

538
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:35,239
Speaker 1: pull him over, and everyone's just like okay, moving on, Yes, yes,

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00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:38,719
Speaker 1: sir um, oh wow is that? Oh I remember Paul

540
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 1: Walker did that? Yeah? Exactly? Could you say that a

541
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 1: little louder? I don't think everybody everybody heard you. Yeah, uh,

542
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 1: p dubs, That's who I am and this guy, you know,

543
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 1: we're like a family here, so it's another one white

544
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 1: supremacists if you want to. Uh. But yeah, this whole

545
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:04,279
Speaker 1: thing is just like it's a continuing evolution, continues the

546
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 1: conversation on many levels, because this thing isn't as simple

547
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 1: as like this guy killed them, because this like a

548
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 1: lot of this hate that people learn is a fucking

549
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 1: it's a mixture of so many things from the media,

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00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:21,720
Speaker 1: you're ingesting the people you're around, and even that maybe

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00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 1: your religious practices too. There's this really interesting piece from

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Speaker 1: this x evangelical scholar named Chrissy Strup um on how

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00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:32,720
Speaker 1: like the defense of like, but God said, my sex

554
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 1: desires are bad, so I had to eliminate them. Sounds

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00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 1: like the kind of ship you hear in many churches

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00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 1: across the nation. Um. And so I just want to

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00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 1: read a few excerpts from this article because it's really interesting. Um. First,

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Speaker 1: she starts quoting this professor Joshua Gibbs, who's an assistant

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Speaker 1: professor of psychology of Bowling Green State University, UM, who

560
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:56,320
Speaker 1: has has published research on religion and attitudes towards sex,

561
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Speaker 1: saying quote, sex addiction is simply not a credible defense

562
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:03,959
Speaker 1: for mass murder. Um, thank you his research however, points

563
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 1: so that, however, is that a quote Conservative Christian men

564
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 1: are prone to believe that they have pornography or sex

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00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:12,880
Speaker 1: addictions even when they do not before and then so

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Speaker 1: they go on to say about how this guy, uh

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Speaker 1: Aaron Long was on his way to target the porn

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00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 1: industry in Florida was like his sort of next move.

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Speaker 1: Essentially according to this professor quote, there's a large and

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Speaker 1: growing body of research that shows the conservative religious values

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00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:29,319
Speaker 1: are strongly linked to feelings of sex addiction. We find

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Speaker 1: that men in particular are likely to interpret normal sexual

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Speaker 1: urges as pathological and then act on them in ways

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Speaker 1: that they find to be problematic. Mhm. And it isn't

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Speaker 1: totally shocking, um. But how it all even blends in

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00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:48,240
Speaker 1: with like purity culture too. We talk about those purity

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00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 1: balls and things like that, like where this is where

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00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 1: they begin to get you, like the your mainlining toxic

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00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:57,279
Speaker 1: masculinity as a child. Because of all this purity think quote,

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00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 1: purity culture get places heavy emphasis on temptation and evil.

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00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,760
Speaker 1: Pornography is considered evil and something to be eliminated. Given

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Speaker 1: that framing, it's not surprising that someone might view all

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Speaker 1: sexual quote temptations as evil and needing to be eliminated.

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Speaker 1: And further, like this idea that men are out of

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Speaker 1: control women must protect their innocence and purity, which allows

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00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 1: for rampant victim blaming because of this sort of this

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00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 1: relationship and also demonizing any woman who has sex and

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00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 1: enjoys it. Like that whole culture of protecting purity is like,

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Speaker 1: not only are women the property of men and need

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00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 1: to be protected in this purity ball puritanical way, but

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Speaker 1: it's also like if a woman does have sex, then

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Speaker 1: she's also extremely eliminatable or I mean, it's it's the

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Speaker 1: fact the fact that it can be on a range

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Speaker 1: of I am attracted to someone and I feel like

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Speaker 1: I shouldn't be, and so I have to eliminate the

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Speaker 1: temptation all the way to like this woman is having

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Speaker 1: sex that I'm not having, and so she has to

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Speaker 1: be eliminated. And she is like, uh, I mean, she's loose,

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Speaker 1: she's whatever. Like it's it's so it goes so so

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00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 1: so so deep and it and it goes even with like,

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Speaker 1: you know, we constantly talk about how, you know, white

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Speaker 1: men have to protect their innocent white women from men

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00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:24,799
Speaker 1: of color that will do anything to defile them. That's

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00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 1: where this more this hyper sexualization intertwined with the white

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00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 1: supremacy shows itself, you know, and pointing all the way

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Speaker 1: back to othello and ship of like this fear of

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Speaker 1: making the beast with two backs with this black ram

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Speaker 1: and the pure white you or whatever the fun I

609
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 1: remember that ship stuck out to me as a kid

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Speaker 1: of like what the funk is it? Like this is um?

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Speaker 1: So then they this this another um. A quote from

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Speaker 1: a woman who was very heavily involved in Southern Baptist communities,

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Speaker 1: who is a woman of color, Asian American woman, and

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Speaker 1: she talks about the white supremacy that she experienced in

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Speaker 1: this context of Southern Baptist community, saying um. Well, first

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Speaker 1: of all, she says she after Trump got all the

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Speaker 1: supportive evangelicals, that sort of was heard the signal that's like, oh,

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Speaker 1: this is fully completely gone off the rails from what

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Speaker 1: I thought it was going to be. UM. But she says,

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Speaker 1: quote white supremacy holds Asians in a weird light, complementing

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Speaker 1: them on being quote the good minority, while also devaluing

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Speaker 1: women into sex objects who exist for their pleasure. As

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Speaker 1: an adult in the Southern Baptist community. I saw this

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Speaker 1: fetish and devaluation from white men who thought I should

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Speaker 1: have sex with them because as an Asian, I was

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Speaker 1: a Geisha, which they take to mean sex worker, and

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Speaker 1: so it's not really cheating or adultery for them. And

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Speaker 1: then she talks about the difference of interacting with men

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Speaker 1: of color in the Southern Baptist community who were not

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Speaker 1: sexualizing her, but the white men in the community would

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Speaker 1: have this tactic of bringing up their addiction to pornography

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Speaker 1: and like, come forth and just let this all out

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Speaker 1: with the expectation that she would have sex with them.

634
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 1: Jesus Christ. So like, there's so many layers to this,

635
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:04,400
Speaker 1: but you're seeing how it all it's all working together,

636
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 1: like on on so many different levels. And so to

637
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 1: just take to just for any media to be like

638
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 1: it's sex addiction simple as he didn't say that even

639
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:15,279
Speaker 1: if it was, like, let's be really like you have

640
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 1: you need to actually also talk about all of these things,

641
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 1: because it's not just so cut and dry like that,

642
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 1: which is what white supremacists would like you to think.

643
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 1: Because if it's such a strict binary, it either is

644
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 1: or is it all the time, And if they can

645
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 1: always say it isn't then does white supremacy exist? Well,

646
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 1: And it's also like framing it as a sex addiction.

647
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 1: It just makes it sound like a murderer was somehow

648
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 1: suffering and is somehow a victim and all of this

649
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 1: like it. It is like intentionally distancing him from women

650
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 1: that he murdered like and and no context for the

651
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 1: murder other than well, he was suffering and hurt people,

652
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:54,799
Speaker 1: hurt people, which is like the most disingenuous way you

653
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:58,399
Speaker 1: could possibly frame a crime that, like you're saying, Miles,

654
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 1: there's so many different layers of hatred and bias involved,

655
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 1: and so just making it sound like, well, he was suffering,

656
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 1: so you know, shit happens, It's like no, there's there's

657
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 1: like five different really important conversations to be had. It's

658
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:16,439
Speaker 1: not ship happens. It's if if you give a funk,

659
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 1: then let's talk about solutions. Let's talk about how to

660
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 1: address it, not just sh it happens. The media is

661
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:24,719
Speaker 1: not equipped for that because it threatens to upend too

662
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 1: many systems of power that I've just been in place

663
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 1: for too long. The Geisha thing is so when I

664
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 1: went to UH College, the book that they had us

665
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:40,319
Speaker 1: read leading into our freshman year. Like the freshman year

666
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:44,360
Speaker 1: reading series was Memoirs of a Geisha, which is written

667
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 1: by an old white guy about like from the perspective

668
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 1: of a Geisha, and it's like, incredibly, you know we

669
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:57,320
Speaker 1: and I've just heard like being in a interracial marriage,

670
00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 1: Like I've heard so much just people either slipping and

671
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 1: saying ship or uh saying saying shit because they just

672
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 1: think it's like it doesn't even occur to them like

673
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 1: I would. I would see my dad press other adults

674
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:15,799
Speaker 1: as a kid, and I realized because they would say

675
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 1: shit about my mom. Yeah, and I didn't know that's

676
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:19,839
Speaker 1: how I was an adult, but I was like, what

677
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:21,360
Speaker 1: the funk happened there? He's like, we're not fucking with

678
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:23,840
Speaker 1: that family anymore. Was like, what the fuck? Yeah, and

679
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:26,879
Speaker 1: like or saying like around, put your jat flaps on.

680
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 1: They were at our how the kids had sandals on.

681
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:31,400
Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, get your jat flaps all kids. My

682
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 1: dad was like, I need to meet you outside real quick.

683
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 1: And I was just like I didn't know that so

684
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:40,360
Speaker 1: I was older, but yeah, this is this like dehumanization,

685
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:43,399
Speaker 1: especially in American culture, to like World War two gave

686
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:45,799
Speaker 1: people a lot of funked up ideas about Asian people

687
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:48,840
Speaker 1: as well. Not to say that there was tons of

688
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 1: atrocities happening during the World War Two, but that like

689
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 1: that momentum, I definitely saw a lot of because like

690
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:58,799
Speaker 1: even like with that family who was calling slippers with

691
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,319
Speaker 1: a slur, was like, oh, I didn't know, Like I

692
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 1: just grew up. That's what my family called them since

693
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 1: the beginning, you know what I mean. And you're like,

694
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 1: this is the ship that we don't These are the

695
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 1: kinds of small things that people don't aren't aware of

696
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 1: that allow for like I can say that in front

697
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 1: of a human being who will take that personally and

698
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 1: it's nothing and it's just so Yeah, there's just like

699
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:24,440
Speaker 1: this white supremacist gaze that like is everywhere. Uh it

700
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:30,359
Speaker 1: definitely uh you know, involves sexuality and like the male

701
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 1: gaze and is dehumanizing. There was there was when I

702
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:39,799
Speaker 1: was working on Lolita podcast, there was, um. I mean,

703
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 1: anime kind of comes up a lot because Lolly Khan

704
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:46,879
Speaker 1: is a term that's directly connected to Lolita, but it's

705
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 1: a completely I mean, it's a relatively separate thing that

706
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 1: is just an entire culture that's built around hyper sexualizing

707
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 1: young Asian women, and it's so so so like just

708
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:05,279
Speaker 1: evasive and everywhere, and it's and and people that I

709
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:07,319
Speaker 1: would try to talk to about it to say like

710
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:11,880
Speaker 1: do you ever think about this? They shut down, you know,

711
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:14,399
Speaker 1: They're like, no, I don't, what do you mean. It's

712
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:16,840
Speaker 1: just it's just a cartoon. It's it's this, it's this,

713
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:20,920
Speaker 1: it's this, and it's like it's people get so defensive

714
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 1: and so deflective and kind of refused to examine like

715
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:28,320
Speaker 1: why am I dehumanizing? Like why am I so okay

716
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:33,280
Speaker 1: dehumanizing someone in this hyper sexual way, and also refusing

717
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 1: to acknowledge that that could possibly influence the way they

718
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 1: view real people, like it's just yeah, yeah, when you

719
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 1: talk about like Asian women like it's a sports car.

720
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 1: Oh dude, Oh she's bad. I would hear that ship

721
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:49,840
Speaker 1: all the time, like, oh you must kill it with

722
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 1: Asian chicks, huh, Like from white guys, Oh you only

723
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:57,279
Speaker 1: fun Asian women. But I was like, Yo, this ship

724
00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:00,359
Speaker 1: is so common and men are so free to say

725
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 1: ship like that to each other. At the time, I

726
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:04,400
Speaker 1: was not equipped to say, like, yo, shut the what

727
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 1: the funk are you saying to me right now, I

728
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 1: was younger and I was just as toxic and I

729
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 1: was just more like uncomfortable and be like nah, not really,

730
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:14,719
Speaker 1: thank you, get the funk away, but like it's a

731
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:20,480
Speaker 1: very common just trope that you encounter, and yeah, this

732
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:23,360
Speaker 1: is another thing for people to bring into their awareness

733
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 1: just in general around every like whether or not you

734
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 1: want to call it it's a hate crime, and whether

735
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:31,799
Speaker 1: it's about the Asian people specifically, or women specifically, or

736
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 1: sex workers specific whatever it is, and I keep saying

737
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 1: that there is it's fueled by hatred. So to try

738
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:41,319
Speaker 1: and like put it in one bucket, white supremacy or not,

739
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 1: I think is so disingenuous and it's such a disservice

740
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 1: to these victims because it completely doesn't allow for us

741
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:50,239
Speaker 1: to have a full you know, reckoning with it if

742
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:53,160
Speaker 1: we ever will. All right, let's take a quick break

743
00:46:53,200 --> 00:47:07,359
Speaker 1: and we'll be right back. And we're back. And there

744
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:12,440
Speaker 1: was a man arrested outside the VP Residents with guns

745
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:20,920
Speaker 1: and an ammoh uh not the magazine actually well actually yeah, yeah,

746
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:24,800
Speaker 1: I mean it's the VP, you know, Harris and uh,

747
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:29,360
Speaker 1: first fight, Wait, what's the what's Doug called Doug the

748
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:34,759
Speaker 1: husband first first gentleman, first gentleman, first gentleman or no,

749
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:39,759
Speaker 1: but their second gentle right, Second, what do they do

750
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:44,400
Speaker 1: they call the do they call like Barbara Bush second

751
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 1: lady in the in the eighties? Well, no, you're the

752
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 1: first lady if you're the sroudt of the president. Second

753
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:55,920
Speaker 1: gentle he's the second gentleman of the United States. Second. Wow,

754
00:47:56,040 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 1: that's wild, even the first being George Washington. Um. But like, yeah,

755
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 1: they don't live at the Naval Observatory, which is like

756
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:07,360
Speaker 1: the traditional vice presidential residents because it's they're they're doing

757
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 1: renovations or whatever, repairs or something. So they were not there.

758
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 1: But they clocked this guy out there being suspicious. There

759
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:16,839
Speaker 1: was like a police bulletin about this guy who had

760
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 1: traveled from Texas all the way to d C. They

761
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:21,959
Speaker 1: arrested him and then they found a R fifteen high

762
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:25,360
Speaker 1: capacity magazines, a lot of ammunition. I wonder why, Probably

763
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 1: not white supremacy or misogyny. Yeah, okay, just one. I mean,

764
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 1: like that's really the story. But like you know, it's

765
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:32,440
Speaker 1: it's just like everywhere you know what I mean, Like

766
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:36,240
Speaker 1: it's fucking it's it's NonStop and there's even even unrelated

767
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:38,360
Speaker 1: to this. You would look into the Derek Chauvin trial.

768
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:42,800
Speaker 1: They're trying to put like introduced George Floyd's arrest record

769
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:45,279
Speaker 1: as a way to get like justify his It's so

770
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:47,879
Speaker 1: fucked up. But again, this is why it's a full

771
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:53,280
Speaker 1: court press um against the system like this. Constantly, there's

772
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:58,439
Speaker 1: been uptick in COVID cases, speaking Minnesota, Minnesota's has seen

773
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 1: the biggest uptick. It's a lot of states across the north, also, Louisiana, UM,

774
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 1: and they're trying it to kind of people relaxing and

775
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:12,839
Speaker 1: guidelines relaxing. Texas hasn't seen an uptick quite yet, but

776
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 1: you know, right had that's so terrifying. Yeah, it's I

777
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 1: don't I don't even know. I mean, I feel like

778
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 1: every single day we're kind of having to like readjust like, oh,

779
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 1: how how do I feel about projects for the future today?

780
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 1: And like, you know, I don't know. The way that

781
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 1: some people are growing about risk assessment in the past

782
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:38,440
Speaker 1: couple of weeks makes me very nervous. Yeah, I mean

783
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 1: I think it's the most dangerous time, you know, because

784
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:44,440
Speaker 1: people like are people know, people that are vaccinated. So

785
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 1: that's the thing it's like, oh, they're good, they're safe. Oh,

786
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:50,279
Speaker 1: like the ripple effect of safety is like around me.

787
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 1: It's like no, no, please, not yet. Now is not

788
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:57,799
Speaker 1: the time. I've also been hearing like uh certain like

789
00:49:58,000 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 1: you know, like you've been seeing a lot of like

790
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:03,240
Speaker 1: what year of COVID posts as if like a fucking

791
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:06,799
Speaker 1: plague observes our calendar, like of like, oh, it's been

792
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 1: a year, so I guess you know what a what

793
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 1: a wild year? And that's not no, no, we had

794
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 1: a one year books. Yeah, yeah, like it. I found

795
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 1: those to be really really bizarre and also the like oh,

796
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:25,800
Speaker 1: well I I got vaccinated, so I don't need to

797
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:29,879
Speaker 1: wear a mask anymore. It's like read like a paragraph,

798
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:35,839
Speaker 1: read a sentence, read one sentence past. So you've been vaccinated, right, yep,

799
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 1: I haven't hold on um but yeah, I mean we've

800
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:46,400
Speaker 1: seen you know, waves like third waves I guess hit

801
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:50,880
Speaker 1: pretty hard in Europe. Paris had a lockdown over the weekend. Uh.

802
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:55,160
Speaker 1: They also think that's due to early loosening, people just

803
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:58,760
Speaker 1: generally feeling like the pandemic is over and acting that way.

804
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 1: Let's move on to autism speaks. Uh, Like we like

805
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:08,440
Speaker 1: we mentioned their their ads have been appearing on our show, uh,

806
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:13,239
Speaker 1: and they are somewhere between a group that we don't

807
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 1: agree with and a heat group there. Uh. They've most

808
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:21,240
Speaker 1: recently been in the news for being the primary research

809
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:28,000
Speaker 1: partner for Sia's Music, which is a movie about a character, uh,

810
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 1: an autistic character that is, anybody uh who watches it

811
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:38,799
Speaker 1: says it's offensive. Autistic people say it's traumatic, just in

812
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 1: terms of the strobing lights, the caricatures of autistic characters

813
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 1: performed by actors who aren't autistic. Uh. It also includes

814
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:52,879
Speaker 1: the use of frontal restraint to calm a character, which

815
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:56,360
Speaker 1: is a band practice that has led to twenty deaths.

816
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 1: But just in doing a little bit of research on

817
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:04,360
Speaker 1: autism speaks, it seems like it's a group run by

818
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:08,959
Speaker 1: non autistic people trying to address autism, Like it's a

819
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:12,880
Speaker 1: problem in a way, like it's a like a fatal

820
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:17,279
Speaker 1: illness right in a way that's extremely dehumanizing. I mean,

821
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 1: and and it's it's basically like the objective is to

822
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:25,040
Speaker 1: like quote unquote cure um in the same way that

823
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 1: you would think of like my my perspective is like

824
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:29,879
Speaker 1: it's in the same way you would think of like

825
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:33,040
Speaker 1: a like a gay conversion camp. That is kind of

826
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:37,080
Speaker 1: what autism Speaks is trying to do for um for

827
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:42,359
Speaker 1: people who are autistic, and it's just incredibly disingenuous and dangerous.

828
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:46,760
Speaker 1: They compare three million US autistic children to three million

829
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:49,800
Speaker 1: missing children. They're like, if if the children were missing,

830
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:54,160
Speaker 1: we would the military would get involved with I mean,

831
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 1: my god's son is autistic, and he is I understand

832
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:01,560
Speaker 1: like the evolution of you're having a child, and then

833
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:04,760
Speaker 1: if you're not prepared for you're you're not really familiar

834
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:06,719
Speaker 1: with any kind of neuro diversity. You hear this and

835
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:10,360
Speaker 1: you're like, that's different. Therefore, I'm my first instinct is

836
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 1: to be like, but he's the most sensitive, intelligent child.

837
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 1: That like, there's no way you could you could look

838
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 1: at your child and be like, I feel different. I

839
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 1: think this child is lost. I have like I have

840
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:28,960
Speaker 1: lost something. And the reason like that's so insidious this

841
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:31,440
Speaker 1: whole campaign is because like we're trying to enter an

842
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 1: era where there's an acceptance about like the concept of neurodiversity,

843
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Speaker 1: Like it's not a it's it's not a like a

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Speaker 1: death sentence or affliction that autism or other neurocognitive disabilities

845
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Speaker 1: are just more like their differences. There's just differences there.

846
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Speaker 1: They represent the diversity UM rather than like you know,

847
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:54,839
Speaker 1: when like parent, what the parents go through. It's such

848
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Speaker 1: a really really awful, awful take on it. And on

849
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Speaker 1: top of it, they lobby like actively to prevent autistic

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00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:07,440
Speaker 1: adults from having any hand in legislation that would affect

851
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:10,400
Speaker 1: their day to day lives. Like they're completely on the

852
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:15,839
Speaker 1: wrong side of sucking everything. Yeah, it's completely disempowering. It's

853
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 1: like predatory towards parents that are trying to figure out

854
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Speaker 1: how to like if you find out your child is autistic,

855
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:25,920
Speaker 1: this is like one of the first groups that will

856
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:28,600
Speaker 1: come up in this really predatory way. And like the

857
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:32,319
Speaker 1: way that they frame it there. I remember because there

858
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Speaker 1: was a huge controversy of UM Sesame Street being allied

859
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Speaker 1: with Autism Speaks a couple of years ago, and they

860
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:42,359
Speaker 1: ended up cutting it off. But but what they were

861
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:45,120
Speaker 1: doing was pushing this thing called the one day kit

862
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:50,160
Speaker 1: UM for parents who have learned that their children are autistic.

863
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:53,600
Speaker 1: That literally encourages you to frame it as if you

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Speaker 1: have a child who has died UM and like going

865
00:54:57,080 --> 00:55:01,360
Speaker 1: through the stages of grief instead of you actively accepting

866
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 1: your child and learning, you know, just like learning about

867
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:12,520
Speaker 1: neurodiversity instead of rejecting it and grieving. It's just yeah, yeah,

868
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Speaker 1: it seems like it has more to do with parents

869
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:22,440
Speaker 1: who had an idea of what their relationship with their

870
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Speaker 1: child was going to be, like mourning that preconceived idea.

871
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Speaker 1: And as you know, there was a op ed and

872
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Speaker 1: I think the Washington Post from a mother of an

873
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Speaker 1: autistic child who engages in more humane treatments and philosophies

874
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:46,640
Speaker 1: around parenting an autistic child, and she is like, Autism

875
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:50,160
Speaker 1: Speaks made this list of like here's what life is

876
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:54,640
Speaker 1: like for a parent of an autistic child. On bad days,

877
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:58,680
Speaker 1: they're depleted mentally, physically. Maybe they've been up all night

878
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:02,360
Speaker 1: caring for their teenage child, up yet again changing the

879
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:06,000
Speaker 1: sheets because they've had another bed wedding thing. Like She's like,

880
00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:09,479
Speaker 1: as a family, we have experienced almost everything on this list,

881
00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:13,040
Speaker 1: some with our autistic son, some with our other sons.

882
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:16,839
Speaker 1: Autism Speaks claims that this is autism, but toss, that's

883
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:21,799
Speaker 1: just parenting. That's uh yeah. So it's like, well, yeah,

884
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:25,719
Speaker 1: because it started by like the grandparents of an autistic

885
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:30,280
Speaker 1: child and like it feels like some closed minded grandparents

886
00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:34,200
Speaker 1: started this advocacy group because they thought their their family

887
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:36,200
Speaker 1: was going to look and be a certain way, and

888
00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:38,880
Speaker 1: when it wasn't, it was so traumatic that they're like

889
00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:42,520
Speaker 1: they died. Yeah, Like and how fucked up is that

890
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:47,040
Speaker 1: to be the grandchild to know that that's the perspective

891
00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:49,680
Speaker 1: of your grandparents on who you are as a person,

892
00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:53,439
Speaker 1: Like that You're lost, that you are somehow not who

893
00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:56,160
Speaker 1: you are. Like it's it's like they can't even look

894
00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:58,080
Speaker 1: at it, like from that perspective and be like, yeah,

895
00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:00,759
Speaker 1: maybe this whole angle is sucked up, but there is. Yeah.

896
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:03,080
Speaker 1: I mean it's so binary. I like, there is only

897
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:07,319
Speaker 1: one acceptable way to be. And it is the sort

898
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:10,120
Speaker 1: of group that, no matter how much evidence that this

899
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:13,120
Speaker 1: is a clearly very harmful group, they're never going to

900
00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:16,880
Speaker 1: shut down because they get so much money and they're

901
00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:21,200
Speaker 1: the first Google result and they've gotten results that have

902
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:27,760
Speaker 1: actually pushed treating neuro divergency with respect and with humanity

903
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:32,800
Speaker 1: like backwards. It's so fucked yeah. It's like it's like

904
00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:36,040
Speaker 1: having like a like a anti racism group that's like,

905
00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:39,760
Speaker 1: oh my god, these people are black, y'all. They're black.

906
00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:45,560
Speaker 1: They are black? Can you believe it? Can you believe

907
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:48,680
Speaker 1: they are black? The hand they were dealt. We have

908
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:51,760
Speaker 1: to help them. Maybe there will be a cure for blackness.

909
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:55,920
Speaker 1: Forget who they are as people from our perspective and

910
00:57:56,000 --> 00:58:00,360
Speaker 1: the hedgemonic place I hold into society. I see, Oh, Mike,

911
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:07,840
Speaker 1: I couldn't. They tried to have a autistic board member, uh,

912
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:12,080
Speaker 1: the author John Elda Robinson, but he resigned due to

913
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:17,120
Speaker 1: their mothering of people with autism, and so they're once

914
00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:21,480
Speaker 1: again just like grandparents and parents of And it's like, well,

915
00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:24,560
Speaker 1: you know, if if you know people who are autistic

916
00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:27,280
Speaker 1: refused to be allied with this group in any way,

917
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:30,800
Speaker 1: Like that's all you need to fucking know. Yes, thank you.

918
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:36,080
Speaker 1: All right, let's talk real quick about the right wing

919
00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 1: media freak out of the day. There is a storyline

920
00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:45,760
Speaker 1: in one of the new issues of Captain America in

921
00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:49,439
Speaker 1: which Steve Rogers and his friends have to track down

922
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:55,520
Speaker 1: Captain America's shield and they discover everyday people from all

923
00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:58,080
Speaker 1: walks of life who have taken up the mantle of

924
00:58:58,160 --> 00:59:02,720
Speaker 1: Captain America to defend their communities. One of them is

925
00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:06,000
Speaker 1: Aaron Fisher, who is openly gay. In the first lgbt

926
00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:09,960
Speaker 1: Q character to pick up caps shield in the comics

927
00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:16,560
Speaker 1: eight year History, and that is what is causing a meltdown.

928
00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:19,240
Speaker 1: I remember I saw a tweet from an activist was

929
00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:29,560
Speaker 1: like wow, lgbt and Q very busy. Yeah, I mean

930
00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:33,920
Speaker 1: it's what what is it? Well, so they have taken

931
00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:40,479
Speaker 1: that because that storyline has uh a they it's they've

932
00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:42,960
Speaker 1: had to take that out of context to get themselves

933
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:47,000
Speaker 1: mad and said that Captain America is gay. Now what's next? Um,

934
00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:51,360
Speaker 1: So that's that's what they're mad about. Oh god, yeah,

935
00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:54,120
Speaker 1: I mean because these conservatives have completely lost whatever they

936
00:59:54,120 --> 00:59:56,440
Speaker 1: thought idea, like the idea of America was or what

937
00:59:56,520 --> 00:59:58,720
Speaker 1: made it great because like on one level, they're always

938
00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:03,040
Speaker 1: like America protects a week, like we shield the week

939
01:00:03,160 --> 01:00:06,240
Speaker 1: from aggressors, and it's like, oh great, So this person

940
01:00:06,280 --> 01:00:09,160
Speaker 1: sounds like an activist who's standing up for people and

941
01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:13,600
Speaker 1: protecting much in the Does he have those rings uh

942
01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:20,880
Speaker 1: pertinent detail? Oh no, I don't know, like you got

943
01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:23,760
Speaker 1: my what if you know? What do you get this

944
01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:26,600
Speaker 1: ship off your face? Actually no, he wouldn't. He would

945
01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:29,400
Speaker 1: be like I like it to Hey, I just got

946
01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:36,360
Speaker 1: one look. Look, it's more cool, right, it's too high,

947
01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:39,840
Speaker 1: but it's I mean, this harkens back to the nineteen

948
01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:45,000
Speaker 1: fifties Comics Code Authority, who had to put their stamp

949
01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:47,440
Speaker 1: of approval on the cover of comics to get comic

950
01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:53,200
Speaker 1: book stores to sell them because there was like a

951
01:00:53,240 --> 01:00:56,760
Speaker 1: creepy psychiatrist who like made a big stink about the

952
01:00:56,840 --> 01:01:01,800
Speaker 1: immorality of comic books. Uh, you know very much. What's

953
01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:04,520
Speaker 1: next year going world can be traced back to a

954
01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:09,560
Speaker 1: creepy psychologist. It's so many what the world? But the

955
01:01:09,600 --> 01:01:12,080
Speaker 1: thing is as funny is like that was we're being

956
01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:14,640
Speaker 1: fucked over because there was an era in which some

957
01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:18,400
Speaker 1: asshole was just confident enough to spute some nonsense as

958
01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:21,560
Speaker 1: being the absolute truth, and we didn't have enough information

959
01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:24,120
Speaker 1: at our disposal. Were like, I mean, he's loud about it,

960
01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:28,400
Speaker 1: whereas now you can't even say a vaccine is safe.

961
01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:32,720
Speaker 1: And suddenly everybody what talk like completely different eras. And

962
01:01:32,760 --> 01:01:35,800
Speaker 1: now we're taking this like really weird blind trust of

963
01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:39,040
Speaker 1: the loudest asshole into the room into like our modern world,

964
01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:42,880
Speaker 1: Like wait, what the fuck was what? What? H Yeah?

965
01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:47,760
Speaker 1: And also Captain America has traditionally been like boundary pushing

966
01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:52,200
Speaker 1: the comic head the first openly gay character and mainstream

967
01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:55,720
Speaker 1: comic books in the eighties, um which the fact that

968
01:01:55,760 --> 01:01:58,880
Speaker 1: it was in the eighties is shocking and probably a

969
01:01:58,880 --> 01:02:04,400
Speaker 1: testament to that code. But it's just a not their

970
01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:07,920
Speaker 1: best work in terms of moral panics. I guess this.

971
01:02:08,200 --> 01:02:10,600
Speaker 1: If you have time to be mad about this right now,

972
01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:14,360
Speaker 1: like get read a book, like get a fucking grip

973
01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:16,400
Speaker 1: on on your life, if you have time to be

974
01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:20,520
Speaker 1: mad about Captain America right now, right I'm just thinking

975
01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:23,880
Speaker 1: of like this news Max asshole, who you can tell

976
01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:29,800
Speaker 1: his brain has been completely taken over by toxic masculinity,

977
01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:32,400
Speaker 1: Like his brain isn't if you open up his brain,

978
01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:35,400
Speaker 1: it's just like a football connected to a barbell or

979
01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:38,800
Speaker 1: some shi and it's he's like he's saying, the country's

980
01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:42,240
Speaker 1: going bananas. He is a gay Captain America, complete with

981
01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:46,200
Speaker 1: a nose ring tats. When he takes off his skull cap,

982
01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:50,560
Speaker 1: there's he's got like a mohawk thing. He's not very muscular.

983
01:02:51,080 --> 01:02:55,800
Speaker 1: What does this world come to critiqued his physique. It's

984
01:02:55,840 --> 01:02:59,600
Speaker 1: a fucking drawing, sir, it's sir. It is a car

985
01:02:59,720 --> 01:03:02,840
Speaker 1: too and not muscular, But that does you know what

986
01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:04,800
Speaker 1: I mean? Like if when you look at that and

987
01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:08,320
Speaker 1: you're you're you got, it's a five alarm fire in

988
01:03:08,320 --> 01:03:11,720
Speaker 1: your mind. I don't even know what to tell, Like

989
01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:14,120
Speaker 1: I always when I think of news Max, I truly do.

990
01:03:14,120 --> 01:03:16,640
Speaker 1: Just think of a fourteen year old named Max sitting

991
01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:23,360
Speaker 1: in his room like twick Man. That would have been

992
01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:27,160
Speaker 1: like the best like response from the John Krasinski thing,

993
01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:29,600
Speaker 1: like a news Max type thing. It's like, Hi, this

994
01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:33,920
Speaker 1: is news Max. I'm Max from Max, and I have

995
01:03:33,960 --> 01:03:39,960
Speaker 1: a few terrible ideas I applied to literally everything. I

996
01:03:40,040 --> 01:03:43,960
Speaker 1: almost successfully wiped the John Krasinski YouTube show from my mind,

997
01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:47,600
Speaker 1: and now it's like the game. You lose the game

998
01:03:47,640 --> 01:03:51,479
Speaker 1: every time you remember John Krasinski's shitty million dollar YouTube show.

999
01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:53,840
Speaker 1: Did you wipe it from your mind so you could

1000
01:03:54,360 --> 01:03:58,560
Speaker 1: be excited and surprised when the television version comes out

1001
01:03:58,600 --> 01:04:00,600
Speaker 1: in a couple of I did. I Like I did

1002
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Speaker 1: an Eternal Sunshine style procedure to forget about the John

1003
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Speaker 1: KASKI I could fall in love all over again. Yeah,

1004
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Speaker 1: I kind of went to a dodgy group on place

1005
01:04:09,480 --> 01:04:14,640
Speaker 1: to get Jamie has always such a pleasure having you.

1006
01:04:15,120 --> 01:04:18,400
Speaker 1: Where can people find you and follow you? And here

1007
01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:22,400
Speaker 1: you will you can find me and all the usual places.

1008
01:04:22,520 --> 01:04:27,120
Speaker 1: You can find me on Twitter at Jamie Loft, This help, Instagram,

1009
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Speaker 1: Jamie christ Superstar. We just released Bechtel cost episode about

1010
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Speaker 1: both Stepford Wives this week that I'm very excited about.

1011
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Speaker 1: And yeah, that's where you can find me. Yeah. Yeah,

1012
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Speaker 1: and check out Lolita podcast and here in mensa. Yeah,

1013
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Speaker 1: classic classic back to back bangers, Bangers. They're gonna be

1014
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Speaker 1: playing those on Classic podcast Radio. We're playing them at

1015
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Speaker 1: the Clubley. I heard Miley Cyrus is putting out bangers,

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Speaker 1: but when you play it, it's just my your mensa.

1017
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Speaker 1: And yeah, people are starting to sample sample my podcast

1018
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Speaker 1: in music that's really mattering. It's Run the Jewels remixes.

1019
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Speaker 1: Thank you so much. I was thrilled with how it

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Speaker 1: turned out. Yeah. Um, is there a tweet or some

1021
01:05:17,400 --> 01:05:21,280
Speaker 1: of the work of social media you've been enjoying? Uh? Yeah,

1022
01:05:21,400 --> 01:05:25,080
Speaker 1: I have a few tweets. I want to encourage people

1023
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Speaker 1: to A great resource I've been learning from and donating

1024
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Speaker 1: to in the past day has been Red Canary Song,

1025
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Speaker 1: which is a grassroots collective of Asian and migrants sex

1026
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Speaker 1: workers UM who are based in New York. But they

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Speaker 1: organized transnationally. Um. And there's a lot of great resources

1028
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Speaker 1: on their website. And also it's a great place to

1029
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Speaker 1: give some money too if you have some extra money. Um.

1030
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Speaker 1: And the tweet I will shout out is just good

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Speaker 1: old fashion fun because I still don't understand what an

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Speaker 1: n f T is. Um. And it's from Phoebe Bridgers.

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Speaker 1: Uh she said, p after sex or you will get

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Speaker 1: an n f T. Miles, Where can people find you?

1035
01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:09,040
Speaker 1: What the tweet you've been enjoying? Find me Twitter, Instagram,

1036
01:06:09,040 --> 01:06:12,520
Speaker 1: PlayStation network, Miles Gray. Also the other podcast for twenty

1037
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Speaker 1: Day Fiance where we're talking ninety day um. And some

1038
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Speaker 1: tweets that are like ws Moron at w S underscore moron.

1039
01:06:21,440 --> 01:06:24,840
Speaker 1: Dudes will read Malcolm Gladwell but won't make their gal

1040
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Speaker 1: come mad well, like Bro, you're worried about the wrong

1041
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Speaker 1: tipping point and my wife. Uh. This one is from

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Speaker 1: uh summer at he burrowed uh and it says I'm

1043
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Speaker 1: so stressed out from running my pet lizards Instagram account.

1044
01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:47,360
Speaker 1: And it's this video. It just looks like this grainy

1045
01:06:47,440 --> 01:06:51,640
Speaker 1: VHS video of this person lamenting so stressed out about

1046
01:06:51,640 --> 01:06:54,760
Speaker 1: an inflizard influenc account. I'm just gonna play a snippet

1047
01:06:54,760 --> 01:06:56,000
Speaker 1: of it, but you'll have to watch the whole video

1048
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Speaker 1: because it's just it's a great monologue. I'm so fucking

1049
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Speaker 1: stressed out for running my pet lizards Instagram account. I'm

1050
01:07:03,400 --> 01:07:07,760
Speaker 1: about to have a nervous breakdown. I told my therapist.

1051
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Speaker 1: She said, we'll take a break from your Pet Lizards

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Speaker 1: Instagram's account. I said, I can't source of income. It

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Speaker 1: goes on for a minute. Yeah, yeah, it's definitely okay.

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Speaker 1: I was like, god, this is so. It definitely has

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Speaker 1: the vibe of like a good comedy video. Yeah, they're

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Speaker 1: the dramatic like um. And then last run from Malls

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Speaker 1: at Molly D's. Since you know, we've got the great

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Speaker 1: Yami Lofty, the great Dunkin Donuts advocate here Malls has

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Speaker 1: a screenshot she says, this is fine. I love online

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Speaker 1: dating and you know, like on the dating apps, there's

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Speaker 1: like one question says I get along best with people

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Speaker 1: who and this person is just a screen cap where

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Speaker 1: this person wrote I love Dunking Donuts, especially they sausage

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Speaker 1: on a crest sand c r e s marry me.

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Speaker 1: That has the same energy as the Gregnant video. Holy shit. Um,

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Speaker 1: couple tweets I've been enjoying. Carter Hamley tweeted Larry King

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Speaker 1: just responding my garage, and Yadoya tweeted, no more pandemic

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Speaker 1: puns please, I can't listen to one more person call

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Speaker 1: it panorama or Panini or pangolin. It's boring. Please like

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Speaker 1: any please that ends with it's boring? Please. Uh. You

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Speaker 1: can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien. You

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Speaker 1: can find us on Twitter at daily Zeitgeis. Were at

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Speaker 1: the Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan

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Speaker 1: page and a website, Daily zygeist dot com where we

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Speaker 1: post our episodes and our footnote night that was pretty

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Speaker 1: Let's capture that and just make that the new footnote

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Speaker 1: where we link off to the information that we talked

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Speaker 1: about today's episode, as well as a song that we

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Speaker 1: recommend you go check out. Now, Miles, what song are

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Speaker 1: we recommending today? I mean, I think just because we've

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Speaker 1: got Scat on the mind, I think we should just

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Speaker 1: talk probably go out on one of the greatest scat

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Speaker 1: soloists in jazz history. No, not Saravant, No, not e Fitzgerald. No,

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Speaker 1: We're gonna okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, just a snippet because

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Speaker 1: if you don't know it, this will just I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: just give you a little bit, so you go find

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Speaker 1: the video. Well, het all dogs and winked at all

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Speaker 1: the sheet dogs the town ever such a hullabaloo, and

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Speaker 1: that little dog raised. Yeah, I see. Do you have

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Speaker 1: to see it, appetizer, but you really need to see

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Speaker 1: the whole thing, the whole interview. Um if possible, Um,

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Speaker 1: just the luck on her husband's face when he's like

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Speaker 1: playing the base. I forgot I did want to plug

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Speaker 1: an indie movie that came out this week called The

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Speaker 1: Snyder Cut. Thank you forgot to forgot to mention plug

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Speaker 1: it for my guy. Yeah, go check that out. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so this is less of an amuse bush and more

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Speaker 1: of an amuse Yeah. I think his ear right uthing whatever.

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Speaker 1: Probably Look, I'm trying to trying to keep all right.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna ride out on that. The Daily Zyga is

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Speaker 1: the production of I Heart Radio. For more podcast from

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Speaker 1: my Heart Radio, visit the I Heart Radio app, Apple podcast,

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Speaker 1: or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. That's gonna

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Speaker 1: do it for this morning. We're back this afternoon to

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Speaker 1: tell you what's trending, and we'll talk to y'all by

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