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Speaker 3: Do it for Clay, do it for freedom, and get

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Speaker 3: Sexton Show YouTube channel. Clay I wanted to start with this,

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Speaker 3: great conversation with Senator ramp Paul yesterday.

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Speaker 3: Pleased to hear him explain he's not opposed to all tariffs,

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Speaker 3: to escalate unnecessarily. Anyway, we do a lot of good

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Speaker 3: our team, so to speak, Team Republican comes up way

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Speaker 3: short and Clay and I have been looking into looking

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Speaker 3: We have a lot of North Carolina listeners. He made

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Speaker 3: it clear yesterday that he would not support ed Martin,

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Speaker 3: And so essentially he went and said, I will not

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Speaker 3: But Clay, before we dive into this, this is what

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Speaker 1: I guess for US Attorney d C. Play two.

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Speaker 3: I've never heard Tom Tillis speak this angrily about anything

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Speaker 3: off by this Clay. He's saying that that basically taking

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Speaker 3: Tom Tillis would say, you shouldn't be able to be

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Speaker 2: Better in conjunction honestly with Muriel Bowser, who showed up

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Speaker 2: When Joe Biden came into office, they decided through the

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Speaker 2: Show, just people who walked inside open doors grandmas with

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Speaker 2: talked about it. This appointment is very important. The idea

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Speaker 3: You can do better than Tom Tillis, because this is

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Speaker 3: His problem, apparently with Ed Martin is that as an

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Speaker 1: You just have to say you're doing it. For George Floyd, we.

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Speaker 3: Have all seen the way that this game was played

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Speaker 3: Hat tip our friend Jesse Kelly on this. He's totally right.

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Speaker 3: All right, welcome back into Clay and Buck calling out

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Speaker 3: Senator Tillis, we're blocking Trump's former now that's been withdrawn

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Speaker 7: What's going on, Sean, hey man, thank you for taking

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Speaker 8: Hey, great show, guys, Miss Rush, but you guys are

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Speaker 1: Do you think you might get primaried.

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Speaker 9: We're looking for somebody.

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Speaker 3: I figured you might be, well, you know, put up.

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Speaker 10: And listened to your show, and I just wanted to

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Speaker 10: Mister Tillis sends out emails to his constituents and ask

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Speaker 10: He needs to voice why he needs to stands this

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Speaker 3: It feels like it feels a bit sharing to me,

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Speaker 3: We'll take one more here. Alan in eastern North Carolina.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I've always thought of Tom Tillis as a Rhino,

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Speaker 12: A John McCain, a Republican. John McCain came here and

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Speaker 1: It seems like, yeah, thank you, thank you. I just

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Speaker 2: And again, open invite to Tom Tillis to come on

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Speaker 3: I think here's a good data point to a into this.

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Speaker 3: It was just it was a an assembly line of

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Speaker 2: And by the way, I said, and I still would

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Speaker 2: I'm sending these two Producer Greg right now. I know

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Speaker 2: he is listening. I want to add this audio because

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Speaker 2: I think it kind of epitomizes how lost much of

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Speaker 2: our media has become. But I don't know how many

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Speaker 2: of you know this story, so let me give you

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Speaker 2: a little bit of background. Buck, you may or may

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Speaker 2: not know the story. Three years ago, uh Florida passed

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Speaker 2: that don't say the so called don't say Gay bill

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Speaker 2: in the state of Florida. Disney sued and it turned

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Speaker 2: into a major cultural flashpoint, such that Live on air

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Speaker 2: on ESPN, which is owned by Disney, they paused to

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Speaker 2: have a moment of silence in allyship with LGBTQI people

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Speaker 2: who were upset by this.

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Speaker 3: Can I just also point out the media went full

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Speaker 3: throttle so that they could convince people the bill is

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Speaker 3: that parental Rights and Education bill. It's HB fifteen fifty seven,

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Speaker 3: correct parental rights and education. No where does it say

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Speaker 3: you can't say gay, and it's not even the name

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Speaker 3: of the bill. So it was a pure propaganda operation.

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Speaker 1: Completely accurate.

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Speaker 2: And I'm glad you brought that up because I was

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Speaker 2: gonna hammer this home because I think it has been

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Speaker 2: discussed recently as we've been talking about what books. Remember

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Speaker 2: they had the Supreme Court argument and even some people

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Speaker 2: on the left were like, man, that it's crazy that

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Speaker 2: you would be reading these books to kindergarteners. All the

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Speaker 2: Florida bill did, Ron Desantems one hundred percent right on this.

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Speaker 2: All the bill did was say there will be no

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Speaker 2: sex or gender instruction for kindergartener, first, second, third grade kids.

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Speaker 2: I would even argue, I've got a fourth grader, he's ten.

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Speaker 2: I think you could expand it probably to fourth and

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Speaker 2: fifth grade, two until a kid gets to puberty ish age.

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Speaker 2: Fifth grade, sixth grade I think is certainly early a

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Speaker 2: little bit, but at least that's in the vicinity of

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Speaker 2: when kids might become aware of puberty. Why in the

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Speaker 2: world would any public school need to be teaching gender,

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Speaker 2: sex based in any way issues to classrooms.

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, it's it's a question that we actually

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Speaker 3: have to keep answering, right, it's not a rhetorical question.

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Speaker 3: Why do they want to do this because it's a

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Speaker 3: doctrinate because it actually goes to the core ideology, the

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Speaker 3: core of the ideology they're trying to present, which is

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Speaker 3: that and this it does not make sense. But a

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Speaker 3: lot of things don't make sense that people ardently believe, right,

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Speaker 3: you know, democrats think socialism is going to work this

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Speaker 3: time anyway. A lot of things don't make sense. But

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Speaker 3: one of them is that doctors get the gender of

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Speaker 3: the baby wrong. And so it starts from the very

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Speaker 3: youngest age that somehow they can like reverse bioengineer this,

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Speaker 3: and they need to get people as young as possible

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Speaker 3: because otherwise it's too clear that this is a choice

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Speaker 3: or this is a psychological condition that develops as you

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Speaker 3: get older. They want this to be it is like

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Speaker 3: it is like skin color. It is an immutable thing

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Speaker 3: that you must understand. Is a is you know, a

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Speaker 3: person is that way and there's no change again, and

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Speaker 3: so we must all respected equally.

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Speaker 1: It is not like skin color as we know.

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Speaker 3: It is in fact, not a physical manifestation at all,

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Speaker 3: even though there are people who are intersex, but that

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Speaker 3: is not what transgenderism is.

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Speaker 1: And now we get to why they want.

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Speaker 3: To push it so early, and why they want to

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Speaker 3: push it on such young kids, because Clay in their

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Speaker 3: mind also, this is not about sex. This is about

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Speaker 3: civil rights. This is a civil rights issue. This is

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Speaker 3: like training anti racism into second graders.

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Speaker 2: Well, we got an audio clip for that, but I

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Speaker 2: think many people don't know this happens. So the reason

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Speaker 2: why I'm bringing it up today is Disney has announced

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Speaker 2: this morning that they are going to be building a

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Speaker 2: brand new theme park, New Disney World, Disneyland, whatever it is,

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Speaker 2: in Abu Dhabi, and in Abu Dhabi in the country

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Speaker 2: of the UAE. I believe you're better at geography than me.

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Speaker 2: I looked it up. In the UAE, you can be

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Speaker 2: beheaded if you are gay. So not exactly an expansive

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Speaker 2: view of human sexuality in the UAE. In the UAE,

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Speaker 2: you could probably say gay, but then you might be beheaded, yes,

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Speaker 2: the bad part. Okay, So over this Florida bill, which,

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Speaker 2: as Buck Rightley points out, was misattributed to a don't

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Speaker 2: say gay bill, it just said kindergarten, first second, third

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Speaker 2: graders can't be gender instructed Disney, and I don't think

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Speaker 2: this got enough.

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Speaker 1: Tension, which owns ESPN.

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Speaker 2: They had a moment of silence live on the air

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Speaker 2: during a women's basketball game.

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Speaker 1: This is l Duncan.

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Speaker 2: I have tagged her on Twitter to ask when we

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Speaker 2: should expect the moment of silence over the new theme

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Speaker 2: park that Disney is opening an Abu Dhabi. But listen

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Speaker 2: to what you could have tuned in just to watch

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Speaker 2: a women's college basketball game on ESPN. This is what

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Speaker 2: you would have heard. This is what they did over

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Speaker 14: Six legislation happening in Florida and across other states as

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Speaker 14: well that are targeting our LGBTQI plus communities. Many of

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Speaker 14: our colleagues here at ESPN have planned and organized a

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Speaker 14: walkout that will be happening at three pm Eastern today.

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Speaker 14: And to be honest with you, we thought we were

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Speaker 14: going to come here today and really celebrate a sport

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Speaker 14: that has meant so much and done so much, including

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Speaker 14: for so many in the LGBTQI plus communities. But we

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Speaker 14: understand the gravity of this legislation and also how it

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Speaker 14: is affecting so many families across this country. And because

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Speaker 14: of that, our allyship is going to take a front seat,

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Speaker 14: and with that, we're going to pause in solidarity.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm going to play another cut for you that

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Speaker 2: I've had them introduced Buck. This is during the women's

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Speaker 2: NCAA basketball tournament you tune it in. It was South

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Speaker 2: Carolina and Howard are playing. You are a parent and

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Speaker 2: you're like, hey, I want to watch this basketball game

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Speaker 2: with my little girl or my little boy.

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Speaker 1: You put on sports. That is what you saw. Okay.

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Speaker 2: This was their reaction to the Florida Bill. Now Disney

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Speaker 2: is building a theme park in Abu Dhabi where theoretically

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Speaker 2: you could be beheaded if you are gay. What is

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Speaker 2: the necessity that ESPN must undertake here? Now, Buck, first off,

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Speaker 2: do we need to do a fact finding mission? Is

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Speaker 2: this going to be like clan Buck's excellent Abu Dhabi adventure?

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Speaker 2: Do we have to show up to this new Is

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Speaker 2: Minnie Mouse going to be wearing a Burco?

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Speaker 9: Like?

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Speaker 1: How does this go? It's a fabulous question. And let

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Speaker 1: me say this.

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Speaker 2: I don't begrudge companies that are global in nature deciding

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Speaker 2: to try and reach the largest global audience. What I

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Speaker 2: am opposed to is when you wag your finger and

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Speaker 2: lecture all of us in America and then your company

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Speaker 2: engages in behavior which is far worse than what you

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Speaker 2: are complaining about occurring here, and you are shut up

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Speaker 2: and you say nothing at all about it.

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Speaker 3: Well, what you see is with the the ideology of

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Speaker 3: the left in America. It's all about power dynamics and

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Speaker 3: who they think they can bully, and in this country

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Speaker 3: they can bully, particularly what they view as a as

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Speaker 3: a predominantly Christian and majority white, although you know it's

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Speaker 3: can bully them as much as they possibly want to

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Speaker 3: do absolutely anything that they want, and we may comply,

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Speaker 3: like we might actually just completely. That's why the gender thing,

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Speaker 3: for example, matters so much to them, because if they

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Speaker 3: can get us to say that, you know what, that

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Speaker 3: six foot eight, two hundred and fifty pound dude who

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Speaker 3: thinks he's a woman because he grew his hair a

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Speaker 3: little long, hasn't gotten a haircut in a while and

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Speaker 3: is dunking on all the chicks on the basketball court

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Speaker 3: and scoring one hundred and forty points a game. That's good.

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Speaker 3: That's civil rights, that's progress. If they can make us

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Speaker 3: do that, they can make us do absolutely anything. But

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Speaker 3: they know that they can't actually pull this stuff off.

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Speaker 3: Clay in China, they can't pull it off. In the

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Speaker 3: Middle East, they can't pull it off. In Africa, they

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Speaker 3: can't pull off the wokeness routine in countries or and

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Speaker 3: or continents where overwhelmingly it's one non white and two

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Speaker 3: it's gonna be rejected. They're gonna say no, that's crazy

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Speaker 3: to us. So well, the whole thing is a scam.

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Speaker 3: They don't actually mean what they say on the left. Okay,

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Speaker 3: this is even crazier, Buck, This is the game itself.

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Speaker 3: So I just played the introduction of ESPN saying we're

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Speaker 3: gonna have a moment of silence.

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Speaker 2: This is the game broadcasters. I've never seen or heard

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Speaker 2: this happen anywhere. This is on ESPN's broadcast. You are

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Speaker 2: sitting down to watch South Carolina Howard women's college basketball tournament.

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Speaker 2: And this is what the two game broadcasters said right

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Speaker 2: after L. Duncan tossed it to them. While the game

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Speaker 15: Lyle Carrolin pac Now. Normally at this time we would

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Speaker 15: take a look back at the first half, but there

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Speaker 15: are things bigger than basketball that need to be a

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Speaker 15: dressed at this time. Our friends, our family, our co workers,

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Speaker 15: the players and coaches in our community are hurting right now,

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Speaker 15: and at three o'clock, about eight minutes ago, our LGBTQIA

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Speaker 15: plus teammates at Disney ask for our solidarity and support,

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Speaker 15: including our companies support in opposition to the Parental Rights

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Speaker 16: And a threat to any human rights is a thread

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Speaker 16: to all human rights. Today, at this time, Courtney and I,

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Speaker 16: we're going to take a pause from our broadcast to

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Speaker 16: show our love and support for our friends, our families,

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Speaker 2: The game is going on right now, and that's the

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Speaker 2: way it can you believe.

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Speaker 1: I don't think this.

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Speaker 2: Got enough attention when it happened. This was a couple

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Speaker 2: of years ago. But this morning, when I saw the

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Speaker 2: Abu Dhabi news, I couldn't help but think, well, this

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Speaker 2: is interesting, right if you're so opposed to the Florida bill,

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Speaker 2: which buck you rightly pointed out, all it did was

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Speaker 2: say kindergarten, first, second third graders were not gonna instruct

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Speaker 2: an education related to sex, wasn't gay, trans anything else,

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Speaker 2: which overwhelming majorities of parents support, And that was their

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Speaker 2: reaction to the Florida bill. Well, now they're building an

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Speaker 2: entire theme park in a country that believes gay people

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Speaker 2: should be beheaded. And I just think it illustrates the

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Speaker 2: depths of the hypocrisy that there will not be a

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Speaker 2: sentilla of noise that comes out of ESPN over this

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Speaker 2: Disney corporate decision.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you're talking about gay people, but what do

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Speaker 3: you think, how do you think it goes for you?

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Speaker 3: And Abi Abu Dhabi? If you walk around and you're like, no,

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Speaker 3: I'm actually a they, I don't think it's what there's

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Speaker 3: the authorities. I don't think first of all, it's an

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Speaker 3: authoritarian state. They detain people, they torture people to do

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Speaker 3: whatever they want. I mean, it's a nice place to visit.

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Speaker 3: If you're an American or European, you got a lot

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Speaker 3: and don't talk about politics to anybody.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you think you walk.

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Speaker 3: Around, you're like, you know, my name, my name is

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Speaker 3: in Steve, it's actually Sally, and like you have to

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Speaker 3: use the preferred pronouns. I don't even know what they

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Speaker 3: would do with you, but it would be really bad.

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Speaker 3: They would not like imply the gaze for Gaza. They

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Speaker 3: would definitely take you for a tour of their of

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Speaker 3: their upper deck and then the of the of the

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Speaker 3: rooftop and then they would throw you off of it. Well,

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Speaker 3: you know, the American left is is unseerious about on

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Speaker 3: a global scale, l g B, t Q, I A

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Speaker 3: plus rights. Uh, because they just the Muslim world by

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Speaker 3: and large is allowed to do whatever they want and

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Speaker 3: with with almost no with no protests, no nothing. They'll

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Speaker 3: never even leftists in America won't even say that.

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Speaker 1: The the mother load.

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Speaker 3: Of oppression when it comes to gender and lgbt U,

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Speaker 3: the real is the Islamic world. They will never talk

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Speaker 3: about that.

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Speaker 2: By the way, as a guy who isn't really as

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Speaker 2: you point out a lot diehard sports fan, can you

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Speaker 2: believe that that exists, that that audio on a sports

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Speaker 2: broadcast network, that that video, that that would have even occurred?

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Speaker 1: Does that just blow your mind? It blows my mind.

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Speaker 2: Even though I know how crazy these people are, the

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of sports viewers, which.

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Speaker 3: I can't speak to, be one much, you know, but

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Speaker 3: I think that Clay, they just get They're just used

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Speaker 3: to just tuning. It's like when actors used to give

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Speaker 3: their opinions on things, and I'm like, I just want

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Speaker 1: If it's good, just shut up. I don't want.

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Speaker 3: I feel like a lot of sports viewers have gotten

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Speaker 1: All right.

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Speaker 3: They're doing some you know, idiotic thing and oh like,

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Speaker 3: what are we going to do? And now just show

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Speaker 1: You don't know, What's you don't know? Right on the

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Speaker 1: Sunday Hang With podcast.

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Speaker 3: And we are joined by Raymond Arroyo of Fox News,

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Speaker 3: and he comes to us from Rome itself, where we

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Speaker 3: know the next Pope is being chosen by the conclave.

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Speaker 1: Raymond, great to have you back on the program.

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Speaker 9: Oh, always enjoyed being with you guys. Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: It's appreciated.

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Speaker 7: With traffic here.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Well, well, we're sorry to take you away

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Speaker 3: from some delicious nyuki and I'm sure a cappuccino with

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Speaker 3: perfect froth. But what is going what is going on

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Speaker 3: here with the whole process to choose the next pope

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Speaker 3: the leader of the Catholic flock?

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Speaker 1: Take take us.

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Speaker 3: Into everything You're you're finding out everything that's going on

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Speaker 3: because a lot of people, I'm just gonna say this, Raymond,

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Speaker 3: even some of the Catholics listening don't know that much

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Speaker 3: about the process itself and what's going on here.

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Speaker 9: Well, it's a mysterious process and that's part of the fun.

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Speaker 9: And look for non Catholics, I said this morning Daryalla

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Speaker 9: Coverage at Fox, this is the root of Christianity. Whether

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Speaker 9: you're a Lutheran, Episcopalian, Evangelical, or Catholic, the fact is,

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Speaker 9: if you believe in Jesus Christ. The mass that these

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Speaker 9: cardinals held today was right over the tomb of Saint Peter,

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Speaker 9: which in the fifties they dug up the basement of

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Speaker 9: Saint Peter's and found the first of all, there's another

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Speaker 9: church down there. There's a third century Constantine basilica beneath it,

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Speaker 9: and then beneath that is a graveyard like an above

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Speaker 9: ground cemetery like we have in New Orleans, and they

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Speaker 9: found the bones of Saint Peter there. So it is

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Speaker 9: upon the bones of Saint Peter where the mass was

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Speaker 9: held today to choose the successor of Saint Peter two

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Speaker 9: thousand plus years later. I mean, it's a kind of

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Speaker 9: incredible thing when you step back and look at it.

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Speaker 9: So one hundred and thirty three men from something like

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Speaker 9: eighty different countries went into this conclave just this afternoon

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Speaker 9: here in Rome a few hours ago. And this is

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Speaker 9: an ancient tradition. And the beautiful thing about Christianity is

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Speaker 9: through the ages, through the millennia, all these little rituals

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Speaker 9: are picked up in traditions, practices, and devotions, and the

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Speaker 9: Catholic Church has a wonderful way of kind of preserving

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Speaker 9: them and pushing them into the future. The conclave practice,

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Speaker 9: this all started because in about twelve seventy four they

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Speaker 9: couldn't elect a pope. It took the conclave was dragging

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Speaker 9: on for three years. They couldn't make a decision, so

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Speaker 9: I think it was polled. Gregory the tenth decided to

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Speaker 9: lock the cardinals in a private place with no contact

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Speaker 9: with the outside world, Deprive them all of that nolchi

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Speaker 9: and cappuccino you mentioned earlier, no food for them, and

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Speaker 9: kind of made them uncomfortable. So they would come to

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Speaker 9: a decision, and they did so that became the new

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Speaker 9: rule of electing a pope. It went into seclusion. It

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Speaker 9: was kind of like a retreat. It wasn't It was

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Speaker 9: spartan and it kind of forced them to focus on

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Speaker 9: the thing at hand. That's what we're watching now. One

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Speaker 9: hundred and thirty three cardinals are going to choose one

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Speaker 9: of their own, but it could be any baptized Catholic

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Speaker 9: male to be the vote, and they're in the Sistine

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Speaker 9: Chapel now. In fact, we're expecting smoke any minute.

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Speaker 7: Now.

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Speaker 9: My guess is first ballot is usually black, meaning you

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Speaker 9: don't have a pope white smoke you probably won't see

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Speaker 9: until Friday at the earliest of I think it could

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Speaker 9: drag on longer.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the question I was going to ask you, Raymon,

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Speaker 2: and thank you for joining us from the Vatican City.

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Speaker 2: As the pope is being selected, what is the expectation

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Speaker 2: you said Friday you think will know? How does the

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Speaker 2: vote process take place? I think they're doing one What

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Speaker 2: is it about seven pm or eight pm? I guess

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Speaker 2: in Rome right now they're doing one vote. They're doing

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Speaker 2: one this afternoon, and then how will it work there's

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Speaker 2: a vote every morning or multiple votes every morning and

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Speaker 2: every afternoon going forward. What should we expect assuming they

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Speaker 2: don't pick one now.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, they only do one vote. On the first day

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Speaker 9: of conclave. They went in, they prayed, they all did

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Speaker 9: their odes, they sat down, got to kind of know

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Speaker 9: the process. Took a vote around four o'clock. They're counting it.

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Speaker 9: They have six people that count the vote claim, which

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Speaker 9: is unbelievable. They three of them scrutinize it, make sure

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Speaker 9: the vot's authentic, nobody forged the signature or dropped too

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Speaker 9: many votes in. Then the other guys double check it,

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Speaker 9: and then it's red. It's read aloud. So you can

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Speaker 9: imagine how long that takes with one hundred and thirty

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Speaker 9: three people. But at seven seven point thirty, they start

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Speaker 9: lighting up the stoves. They take those ballots to burn them,

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Speaker 9: and that's where the black or the white smoke comes.

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Speaker 9: Tomorrow and the days that succeed, there'll be two votes

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Speaker 9: in the morning, two votes in the evening in the afternoon,

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Speaker 9: so you'll get two smoke stacks going up to indicate

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Speaker 9: whether or not they've come to a decision. But when

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Speaker 9: you've got one hundred and thirty three guys who don't

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Speaker 9: know each other. You see, Cardinals used to meet every year,

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Speaker 9: the College of Cardinals would meet. Pope Francis ten years

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Speaker 9: ago had a conference on the family where he wanted

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Speaker 9: to do some wacky things and the cardinals started talking

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Speaker 9: back to him. He didn't like that, so he canceled

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Speaker 9: the annual meeting of a college of cardinals. They haven't

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Speaker 9: met in ten years, and he appointed one hundred and

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Speaker 9: eight of the one hundred thirty three men in this conclave.

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Speaker 9: So they literally don't know each other, haven't met each other,

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Speaker 9: and they don't know each other's concerns. So the last

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Speaker 9: week or so twelve days has been about getting to

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Speaker 9: know each other and figuring out what they believe is

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Speaker 9: the next step to the church. And it's a battle

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Speaker 9: someone to continue the Francis line, which is more progressive,

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Speaker 9: you know, focused on kind of loosening the bounds of

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Speaker 9: the doctrine, dispensing with the things of the past. And

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Speaker 9: then you have the other block that wants tradition or

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Speaker 9: return to eternal values, back to basics, and get rid

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Speaker 9: of some of the chaos and the lack of clarity

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Speaker 9: we've seen over the last twelve years. And we'll see

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Speaker 9: who comes out the winner here.

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Speaker 3: The fact well, that's works where I wanted to go

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Speaker 3: next with you Raymore speaking of Raymond and Royal from

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Speaker 3: Fox News. He is in Rome right now, covering the

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Speaker 3: conclave very closely, and we're going to be finding out

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Speaker 3: about a.

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Speaker 1: New pope here. You said, what by Friday? Probably so

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Speaker 1: couple of more days.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 9: If it goes to Saturday, we're in trouble because that's

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Speaker 9: a day of pause in the car the constitution, if

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Speaker 9: you do three d days of voting, you don't have

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Speaker 9: a pope. But they have to pause for a day

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Speaker 9: and pray and meditate, which means voting would resume on Sunday.

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Speaker 9: I hope that's not the case because I'm leaving on Sunday.

871
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Speaker 9: I'll watch them.

872
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 3: Well, I was gonna say, I mean it could be

873
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 3: you know, you could be on the India Pakistan border

874
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:17,799
Speaker 3: or something right now, right, I mean, you know tough,

875
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Speaker 3: it's not such tough duty. You know you're gonna be

876
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Speaker 3: on a vespa. You're going to be seeing the site.

877
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Speaker 3: It would be very nice.

878
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 1: But tell me tell me this feel aroundemy.

879
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 3: Some of the top options that are being discussed. I

880
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:33,839
Speaker 3: hear a lot about a cardinal Sarah. Tell me some

881
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 3: of the top contenders right now. And you know you

882
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:38,279
Speaker 3: got into this a little bit, but what some of

883
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:41,239
Speaker 3: the different directions would be based upon who some of

884
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Speaker 3: those top candidates are for the church.

885
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Speaker 9: Well, you know, I have a podcast and we've been

886
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 9: doing this every day daily reports. It's a Royal Grande

887
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 9: show on YouTube. And I have this conclave crew and

888
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 9: it's a priest and a historian and three of us

889
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 9: kind of go through all the gossip we heard that

890
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 9: day and the candidates. So that's at a Royal Grande

891
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 9: show on YouTube. And some of the people we discussed.

892
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:05,399
Speaker 9: There's a Cardinal tag Lay from the Philippines. He's kind

893
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 9: of an Asian Pope. Francis happier, more buoyant, but he's

894
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:12,839
Speaker 9: the same line. He believes that Vatican two, the more

895
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 9: modern approach, is the way to go, and that we

896
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 9: should loosen some of these moral bonds on whether it

897
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 9: be marriage or the LGBT community. He liked to see

898
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 9: a more open approach. You have a Cardinal Paroline. Now,

899
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Speaker 9: this guy is the Secretary of State at the Vatican.

900
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:34,480
Speaker 9: He's the guy who drafted the China Deal, the hidden

901
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:39,279
Speaker 9: China Vatican Deal, which literally handed faithful Catholics and not

902
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:43,280
Speaker 9: only Catholics Bible churches, but tons of people over faithful

903
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 9: people to the chicoms. They rounded them up. They've shut

904
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Speaker 9: down churches the Vatican. Why they got into this deal,

905
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 9: no one can figure. They also allowed the Chinese to

906
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 9: choose their bishops, two of which they appointed after the

907
00:47:57,160 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 9: Pope died. Okay, So Cardinal Peroline is a guy with

908
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 9: a lot of clouds over his record that will probably

909
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 9: damn his candidacy. He's also involved in a lot of

910
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:10,879
Speaker 9: financial chicaner here a four hundred million dollar land deal

911
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:13,840
Speaker 9: that went belly up in London, so he will probably

912
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:15,400
Speaker 9: not make it out of the gate. But he's the

913
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 9: number one liberal candidate, if you will, the progressive candidate

914
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:22,880
Speaker 9: to continue Francis's legacy. On the other side, Cardinal Robert Sarah,

915
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 9: who you mentioned, a priest from Nigeria, an incredible man.

916
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 9: Both of his parents were converts, an African cardinal who

917
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:37,759
Speaker 9: headed up the liturgy office at the Holy See and

918
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:41,840
Speaker 9: got into problems with Pope Francis over the old Latin Mass,

919
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 9: which France has outlawed. Cardinal Robert Sarah did not want

920
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:50,400
Speaker 9: that to happen, so Francis booted him out. He's a

921
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:54,879
Speaker 9: huge favorite of the more traditional cardinals. I think though,

922
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:56,960
Speaker 9: at the end of the day, you need somebody who

923
00:48:57,040 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 9: can both reform this bureaucracy, clean up the financial problems

924
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 9: the church is broke here, that's the reality, and revived

925
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:07,920
Speaker 9: the faith in a winning way. I keep looking at

926
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Speaker 9: a man I know, I've known him for twenty five years,

927
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:13,800
Speaker 9: Cardinal Pierre Baptista Pizza Bala. Try saying that's four times fast.

928
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Speaker 9: Pizza Bala is the Jerusalem patriarch. He's a Franciscan, He's

929
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Speaker 9: lived in the Holy Land for thirty five years, a

930
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Speaker 9: sturdy man from the farming country in northern Italy, but

931
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Speaker 9: a prayerful man who believes the Word of God should

932
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 9: be the center of our lives. And he's cleaned up

933
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 9: all the financial problems there and navigated this landmine of

934
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Speaker 9: Israel and the Palestinians. And when, in fact, when Hamas

935
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:44,799
Speaker 9: took those hostages, he offered his life in exchange for

936
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Speaker 9: the hostages. That will, I think tip the balance for

937
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 9: him if they need a compromise candidate. It's kind of

938
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Speaker 9: like Trump getting shot in Butler that was the end

939
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Speaker 9: of the campaign. I feel that way about Pizza Bala

940
00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 9: as well.

941
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Speaker 2: All right, so this is maybe going to damn me too.

942
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:03,880
Speaker 2: A ternal flames here, But you can you can bet

943
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Speaker 2: on who the next pope is going to be. And Raymond,

944
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Speaker 2: I don't know if you've paid attention to this, but

945
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Speaker 2: here are you just mentioned?

946
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Speaker 9: It's excommunicable. We can't do it, but that others can't

947
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 9: but we can't. It's literally an excommunical crime if you

948
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:21,160
Speaker 9: bet on the on the papacy. Do you know that?

949
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:23,400
Speaker 1: Oh? Do you really?

950
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:26,360
Speaker 3: Clay was trying to get me excommunicated, Raymond. He wanted

951
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:27,240
Speaker 3: me to be a heathen.

952
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:30,920
Speaker 1: All right, well then, you guys, I'm here to save you.

953
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:34,279
Speaker 2: I'm not Catholic, so I can't be excommunicated here. So

954
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:37,239
Speaker 2: I'm going to tell you the favorites according to the

955
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Speaker 2: gambling market.

956
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 1: There's still time, There's still time. Okay, Well then I

957
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:43,400
Speaker 1: might be ending that forever.

958
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:45,840
Speaker 2: Now the Southern Baptist can be happy because I'm shutting

959
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 2: the door on being Catholic. Here are the four favorites

960
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 2: according to polymarket right now, Pietro, Perilyn and I'm probably

961
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:57,759
Speaker 2: going to mispronounce the names, but you said you thought

962
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 2: he was Yeah, you you three of these names. That's

963
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 2: that's what I was impressed by. It says that you

964
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 2: think he's got too many scandals. In his background. Tagol

965
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:14,360
Speaker 2: Or Tagola nineteen point yep, Tagli, you know you mentioned

966
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 2: Pizza Bella, who was the individual you were just talking about.

967
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:22,319
Speaker 2: He's the fourth most likely, the only one you didn't mention.

968
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:25,239
Speaker 2: I'm going to put you on the spot here, Mateo,

969
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:28,920
Speaker 2: Zoopy or Zuppy, what do you know about him? If anything,

970
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 2: he's third most likelyto Mateo.

971
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:34,400
Speaker 9: Zupi is an Italian cardinal, very much in line with

972
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:37,359
Speaker 9: the Pope France's vision of things. He's a liberal, He's

973
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 9: been very open to the LGBT community. Look, Clay, when

974
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:44,320
Speaker 9: you have young people, we just saw this at Easter,

975
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 9: and Buck will back me up on this. Young people

976
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:49,839
Speaker 9: are flooding into the Catholic Church, not only cathol Church,

977
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 9: other Communists too, but particularly the Catholic Church. And it's

978
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:55,239
Speaker 9: young men because they've they've found their way into the

979
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:58,279
Speaker 9: faith through the Internet and reading, and they're looking for

980
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 9: something eternal, inc the truth of Christ and the Gospel.

981
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:04,640
Speaker 9: I don't think you're going to get that from a

982
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:08,279
Speaker 9: guy like Zoopie or Tagle, who basically pushing a line

983
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:09,920
Speaker 9: that we just have to be more like the world

984
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 9: and less like the apostles. You want an apostle. So

985
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 9: my guess is, if I were a betting man, and

986
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:17,719
Speaker 9: I'm not because I don't want to get excommunicated, I

987
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:20,439
Speaker 9: would put my money on somebody like Pizza Bala, because

988
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:22,480
Speaker 9: I think both the right and the left candidates are

989
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 9: going to go down and they're going to need a compromise,

990
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:28,480
Speaker 9: and that guy's story is so compelling, I think it

991
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:30,239
Speaker 9: might just win the day.

992
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:34,560
Speaker 2: Outstanding stuff, Raymond for coming right to us from the

993
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:40,000
Speaker 2: Vatican City. If there are immediate results or something like that,

994
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 2: don't hesitate to call us back in if you were

995
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:44,239
Speaker 2: there in the Vatican City to report live.

996
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:46,120
Speaker 1: I'd love to have you on next couple of days

997
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 1: if that happens.

998
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 9: Yeah, call me anytime.

999
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 1: I'm here.

1000
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:52,399
Speaker 9: I'll be smokestack watching until I hope Friday and then

1001
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:52,719
Speaker 9: we can.

1002
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 1: All go home.

1003
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Speaker 3: Excellent, excellent voice imposter for us and Clay. You know,

1004
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:03,359
Speaker 3: my dad is an Anglican, so I'm actually split by parentage,

1005
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:07,440
Speaker 3: so he's an Anglican like Church of England type and

1006
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:09,719
Speaker 3: or you know, Episcopalian.

1007
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:10,720
Speaker 1: Say, I think it's the same.

1008
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 2: Thing, isn't that basically, And I'm gonna probably get religious

1009
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:17,920
Speaker 2: people off now. Isn't that basically just when Henry the

1010
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 2: Eighth decided that he wanted to get married and they

1011
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 2: split the Church of England from the Catholic Faith. Isn't

1012
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 2: that basically the existence of that faith? Yes, that is

1013
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:28,520
Speaker 2: the history. That is the history of the Church of England.

1014
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:31,960
Speaker 3: Is Henry the Eighth not a great guy, wanted to

1015
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 3: get remarried again, definitely be headed a wife.

1016
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 1: Not a good dude. So so that.

1017
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:39,600
Speaker 2: Is the founding history of the Church of England. That's

1018
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 2: what I thought, just wanted to make it. Which now

1019
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 2: that that low i Q pretentious weirdo.

1020
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:51,319
Speaker 3: What's his name, King Charles is the head of He's

1021
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:52,880
Speaker 3: the head of the Church of England.

1022
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 1: Oh I know.

1023
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:55,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Church of England is always headed by the

1024
00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:57,960
Speaker 2: by the king because the King wanted to marry a

1025
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:00,279
Speaker 2: new woman and decided that he needed to leave the

1026
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:03,560
Speaker 2: Catholic Faith. That's right, right, I've got the religious background there,

1027
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Speaker 2: I think.

1028
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Speaker 3: So all the angry Episcopalians, but honestly, you're not gonna

1029
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Speaker 3: be angry about this. You could send your ire at

1030
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Speaker 3: Clay for just talking about the historical record.

1031
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Speaker 1: But that was cool.

1032
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Speaker 2: Raymond Royo right from the Vatican city as we wait

1033
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1034
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Speaker 2: And you found out that I've now been excommunicated from

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