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Speaker 1: the great golfer Brooks Kepka. He'll join us coming up
Speaker 1: a little bit. Mike Floyal from Pro Football Talk will
Speaker 1: join us a little bit later on as well. NFL
Speaker 1: schedule release will be Thursday night, and of course you
Speaker 1: need three hours to have a schedule release party, and
Speaker 1: you're going to milk it as long as you can.
Speaker 1: The NFL network and the Mother's Ship and rightfully so,
Speaker 1: you already know who your team is going to be playing.
Speaker 1: You're not sure when they're playing these oppositions, but you
Speaker 1: know basically who you're playing. It's just a question of
Speaker 1: when you're playing them, When is it home, when is
Speaker 1: it away. But you have an idea of what your
Speaker 1: schedule is, and then you start to look at strength
Speaker 1: of schedule. This is always misleading because you can look
Speaker 1: back previous years and say, this team's got an easy schedule.
Speaker 1: These teams have tough schedules. It all changes, it all
Speaker 1: changes quickly. In the NFL. They're gonna be surprises, They're
Speaker 1: gonna be teams where you go, I didn't see that coming,
Speaker 1: and they're gonna be teams where you go, Boy, they're
Speaker 1: not as good as we thought They were. Happens every
Speaker 1: year and that's why when you look at strength of
Speaker 1: schedule it's often misleading. I'm looking at an analytics writer
Speaker 1: with the Mothership and points out that the Colts will
Speaker 1: win the AFC South. Dallas is going to be a
Speaker 1: good team, Denver is going to be a playoff team.
Speaker 1: The Browns, I believe, are going to be a playoff
Speaker 1: team as well. The Buccaneers a playoff team. So this
Speaker 1: is just you know, people looking at the schedule and
Speaker 1: then projecting on what they think will happen this season.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's fun, but you know, there's nothing attached
Speaker 1: to it. Like nobody loses their job if they're wrong
Speaker 1: with their analytics here Denver, Denver's that's that's interesting, you know,
Speaker 1: with Drew Locke, that's interesting. They got weapons they're trying
Speaker 1: to replicate with the Kansas City Chiefs have, and the
Speaker 1: question is their quarterback able to stand tall and take
Speaker 1: that next step. The Colts winning the South, I'm not
Speaker 1: surprised at all. I think that's a great organization. Philip
Speaker 1: Rivers is not the ideal quarterback to come in for
Speaker 1: a one and done here, but he's an upgrade over
Speaker 1: Jacoby Brissette. The Browns better make the playoffs, and my Cowboys.
Speaker 1: One of these years, I'm going to be right with
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. It's like, for years I love the Chargers,
Speaker 1: and then the year I said they have the most
Speaker 1: talent of any team in the AFC, and then they
Speaker 1: ended up losing to the Colts, and I went, or, no,
Speaker 1: did they lose to the Colts that year? I forget?
Speaker 1: But they ended up losing in the postseason in the
Speaker 1: like second round, and I went, and there go my Chargers.
Speaker 1: I think they lost. They came East, didn't they Paully?
Speaker 1: They lost the Patriots? Patriots? All? Okay, okay, yeah, two
Speaker 1: years ago your Chargers were twelve and four. They're cruising. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I thought they were the most talented team, and then
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, it's like, no, those are the Archers.
Speaker 1: There are gonna be a couple of teams where you go,
Speaker 1: and I'll be right with the Cowboys one of these
Speaker 1: years where I go, They're they're as talent as anybody
Speaker 1: in the NFC. Tampa Bay up there as well. That's good.
Speaker 1: It's interesting, all right. Eight seven seven three D P
Speaker 1: show email address, the DP at Dan Patrick dot com
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Speaker 1: opportunity to listen to the Patrick Ewing Interview first hour,
Speaker 1: and if you don't, you can you can hear all
Speaker 1: the interviews from the Mercedes amg Man cave go to
Speaker 1: the DP show app. But he was always a great mystery.
Speaker 1: He was an enigma. You know, he kind of hid
Speaker 1: behind that scowl with that game phase. He didn't share much.
Speaker 1: And I certainly understand, you know, when he was growing
Speaker 1: up and how he was treated when he played in
Speaker 1: high school, and you know, he's a success story. But
Speaker 1: he just has a great personality. He really does. And
Speaker 1: I never knew it. Now I would stick a microphone
Speaker 1: in his face at some of these you know, meta
Speaker 1: sessions or a press conference or that was about it.
Speaker 1: But I remember, you'd always hear this. You know, there's
Speaker 1: certain players or coaches, whether they'd say hey in private,
Speaker 1: these Patriot players to say, oh, if you were around Belichick, man,
Speaker 1: you would love him. He has a sense of humor.
Speaker 1: And I go, okay, I'll never see that and I
Speaker 1: was always told, Hey, Patrick's really a funny guy. And
Speaker 1: I go Patrick Ewing, and Mark Jackson would tell me
Speaker 1: that all the time. He goes, yeah, he don't. He
Speaker 1: just doesn't want to show you. He doesn't want you
Speaker 1: to know. And I went all right. And then when
Speaker 1: I sat down with him that time in San Antonio
Speaker 1: years ago, and I went, Mark's right, he's got a
Speaker 1: great personality. One thing I did not know. And it
Speaker 1: was painful for him to come on because he said
Speaker 1: it yesterday when I called him when I got off
Speaker 1: the show, and he said, I'll come on, but this
Speaker 1: isn't enjoyable talking about Michael Jordan. We lived it, you
Speaker 1: were entertained by it. We had to live it. And
Speaker 1: so we talked a little bit about that. But what
Speaker 1: came out of the interview that I did Stonewer was
Speaker 1: somebody broke into his house and stole his gold medals.
Speaker 1: This is years ago, so he had eighty four ninety
Speaker 1: two and somebody had gotten you know, they stole his
Speaker 1: Olympic gold medals. Now they got replacement medals for him.
Speaker 1: Jerry Colangelo went out and asked the IOC if they
Speaker 1: could have replacement medals, but still it's not the medals
Speaker 1: that were put around his neck and poly and I
Speaker 1: when I got through with the interview and I came
Speaker 1: out on Polly's side, and he goes, man, I am angry.
Speaker 1: Can I have your permission to find out who who
Speaker 1: stole those medals? I said, you have my blessing, go
Speaker 1: get him. I may go Liam Neeson on these guys,
Speaker 1: I really want. This is truly upsetting to me, and
Speaker 1: I don't get that upset about anything. How could you
Speaker 1: take Patrick ewing gold medals? I think we should offer
Speaker 1: a reward if you turn in the culprits, the thieves
Speaker 1: that stole Patrick Ewing's medals. I'll pay for you to
Speaker 1: fly out and see this show. I'll make you a
Speaker 1: Dana for a day. Yeah, and I'll pay the plane
Speaker 1: trip in the hotel. Yeah. Well we'll put you up.
Speaker 1: We'll have a meat Friday, but we need to know
Speaker 1: who stole Patrick Ewing's golden coach. Ewing will call in
Speaker 1: on that day. Yeah, that would be a good show,
Speaker 1: that would be done. That would be Yeah, you would
Speaker 1: think that would be the least he could do if
Speaker 1: we got his gold medals back. All you narcs out there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: turn somebody. Yeah, if you ever wanted to turn somebody in,
Speaker 1: now it's your chance. This is the right reason. Yes,
Speaker 1: I would turn in my sister if she had Patrick
Speaker 1: Ewing's medals. I'm not even kidding. What's the poll question today, McLevin?
Speaker 1: Are we went with the greatest center pole. If you
Speaker 1: could start a team with any center after nineteen eighty five,
Speaker 1: who would it be? Shack is winning over a chim
Speaker 1: Elijah On and Patrick Ewing And I get that, really,
Speaker 1: I was surprised at it. I mean, I would take
Speaker 1: elijh On. I would take Elijh one. But that's just
Speaker 1: because I love his game. I love Shack, but I
Speaker 1: loved Elijahan's game. When you have a big man who
Speaker 1: who has like a smaller, like a point guard's ability
Speaker 1: with his footwork, I mean, playing soccer really help allij
Speaker 1: you on and he could take you outside and hit
Speaker 1: that you know, foul line, extended jumper and he was
Speaker 1: just and he's a wonderful person too, not that that
Speaker 1: factors in, but you know, I thought he got kind
Speaker 1: of lost in the centers. He did win two titles,
Speaker 1: and yes there's an asterisk by it if you want
Speaker 1: to place it there because Mike was nair. I think
Speaker 1: the Rockets would have went toe to toe and could
Speaker 1: have beaten the Chicago Bulls. I don't look at this
Speaker 1: as a foregone conclusion. You know, you have all of this,
Speaker 1: and it's not revision his history because I think the
Speaker 1: Rockets are a little sensitive to it. Then when people say, yoh,
Speaker 1: those are the two years Jordan didn't play, Rockets were
Speaker 1: great too, They truly were. Now we get this conversation
Speaker 1: of how many points would Jordan average in today's NBA,
Speaker 1: And I saw where Jalen Rose, who played against Mike,
Speaker 1: said he'd average forty seven and a half. Now, I
Speaker 1: think is that based off Mike average in thirty seven
Speaker 1: and a half one year? I think that might have
Speaker 1: been the most he averaged in a single season. I
Speaker 1: think it's thirty seven point one. But that season he
Speaker 1: shot thirty seven. You can't really factor threes into it
Speaker 1: because he didn't take threes. I mean he took about
Speaker 1: a dozen threes that season. Well. No, The point is
Speaker 1: Michael would have more access to get to the hoop
Speaker 1: in today's game. He might not take as many threes
Speaker 1: as you would expect. He would have if you think
Speaker 1: James Harden goes to the line, Mike's going to the
Speaker 1: line probably twelve to fifteen times a night. Now, I
Speaker 1: don't know how long, how sustainable that's going to be.
Speaker 1: But if you said Michael in today's NBA, how many
Speaker 1: points is he going to average? First of all, they
Speaker 1: give you the eighteen footer, fifteen to eighteen feet, they
Speaker 1: give that to you. I mean, Durance made a career
Speaker 1: out of fifteen to eighteen feet. Now you're giving that
Speaker 1: to Michael. And I'm gonna get And there's no rim protectors.
Speaker 1: I mean, who do you have, Clint Capella? Like, who's
Speaker 1: your rim protector? There? One of the Lopez brothers. So
Speaker 1: now I got I got Michael, who has free access.
Speaker 1: He's got the hov lane to go to the hoop.
Speaker 1: And if I say go out and score and nobody
Speaker 1: you can nobody fouls. There's no hard fouls. Now Michael
Speaker 1: would average probably And Phil Jackson said this a couple
Speaker 1: of years ago when he was on the show. He
Speaker 1: said he would average over forty a gang. Now I
Speaker 1: could see that. I mean, that's not a big leap
Speaker 1: Michael in his prime. If I said Mike in nineteen
Speaker 1: ninety one. Go out there. Let's see what you do
Speaker 1: for a season playing in today's rules. Can't put your
Speaker 1: hand on him. Go back and watch the video. When
Speaker 1: you watch the documentary, watch the physicality that was played
Speaker 1: back then. In the nineties and the eighties, it was
Speaker 1: just different basketball. Now. You can't put your hand on Mike,
Speaker 1: and you're gonna give him a fifteen eighteen footer and
Speaker 1: you're gonna let him go to the hoop and he's
Speaker 1: gonna get foul an awful lot, and then you throw
Speaker 1: in maybe you know, he adds more three pointers, three
Speaker 1: point attempts. Mike's gonna average low forties. Probably, I don't.
Speaker 1: And that's not a stretch at all. And that's not
Speaker 1: one of those boy in my day I remember. It's
Speaker 1: just I'm looking at the facts here of how Michael played.
Speaker 1: Nobody guards Who's guarding Jordan? How can you guard Jordan?
Speaker 1: I mean, Mario Ellie is not coming out of retirement
Speaker 1: to guard Mike or Gerald Wilkins. Mike would average whatever
Speaker 1: Mike wanted to average. Now, would he average fifty like
Speaker 1: Wilt did? No, he would not just different back though
Speaker 1: Mike would have to earn it. But being a great athlete.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's what happens. You just get tired every
Speaker 1: single night. Alan Iverson had to bring it and I
Speaker 1: love that. The great scores have to bring it every
Speaker 1: single night. And Mike brought it every single night. So
Speaker 1: if he averaged forty two, forty three, absolutely, forty seven
Speaker 1: and a half. Maybe not, but Mike could do what
Speaker 1: he wanted to do, I think scoring once. Yeah, Seed,
Speaker 1: it'd be interesting if Mike did play now though, and
Speaker 1: he was actually a worse player because he took so
Speaker 1: many threes. Yeah, I mean, like he was so good
Speaker 1: because he was always going to the hooper. He had
Speaker 1: a mid range jumper. But imagine that just the freedom
Speaker 1: to just keep firing up threes and then his percentage
Speaker 1: went down and then he actually wasn't there, right, he
Speaker 1: would be called air ball Jordan. Yeah, yeah, don't tell
Speaker 1: Mike I said that, Oh, he'll be bad. Would he
Speaker 1: want to be like James Harden and run the team
Speaker 1: or we want to be a warrior and be like
Speaker 1: part of a dream team, well a good team. Well,
Speaker 1: it depends on if it's the early part of his
Speaker 1: career he was James Harden and then he realized I
Speaker 1: got to win championships. So knowing what he knows now,
Speaker 1: he would. He could be a statistical anomaly or he could.
Speaker 1: I don't think he's averaging forty four a game and
Speaker 1: they're going to be winning championships. I think if he's
Speaker 1: averaging thirty four a game, they're winning championships. Because he
Speaker 1: would he would build a good team around him. I
Speaker 1: think that would be important to Mike, knowing what he
Speaker 1: knows now of what those championships did for his legacy,
Speaker 1: then yes he would. I don't know if he would
Speaker 1: go want to average forty four forty five a game.
Speaker 1: He could do it, but I don't know if it
Speaker 1: would be to the detriment of the team. Yeah, Ton,
Speaker 1: When exactly did things change? Was it because of the
Speaker 1: Bad Boys where now we've got these flagrant ones and
Speaker 1: flagrant twos where they can beat the crap out of
Speaker 1: each other in the eighties and nineties and now you
Speaker 1: can't touch each other at all? Was there a specific
Speaker 1: moment or a team Well, the Bad Boys didn't help,
Speaker 1: the Knicks didn't help, and Cleveland Cavaliers didn't help. You
Speaker 1: got Chuck Daily's team, you got pat Riley's team, and
Speaker 1: Mike Fortello's teams. You know, they nearly the Knicks nearly
Speaker 1: ruined basketball with that style. I mean, it's the brilliance
Speaker 1: of pat Riley that he could have a different style
Speaker 1: than show Time to what he had with Greco Roman
Speaker 1: wrestling with the Knicks. But yeah, they allowed the physicality.
Speaker 1: I never understood that. It's like hockey. I remember this
Speaker 1: is years ago, talk kind of Wayne Gretzky, and I said,
Speaker 1: how would you do in today's NHL? And he goes,
Speaker 1: I would struggle to get fifty goals in a season. Now, Wayne,
Speaker 1: of course, you know he would not play up his
Speaker 1: abilities and he would probably do better than that. But
Speaker 1: he said, they don't. The rules don't allow for the
Speaker 1: great players to be great. You know, there's no free
Speaker 1: flowing movement there. And he said, you know that hurts
Speaker 1: hockey because you'll watch and you'll go, I don't know
Speaker 1: who's great because we don't allow them to be great.
Speaker 1: We allow people who have lesser ability to be able
Speaker 1: to dictate the style of the sport. And I'm paraphrasing him,
Speaker 1: but basketball was the same way. All of a sudden,
Speaker 1: Anthony Mason is going to have an impact. These physical guys,
Speaker 1: And that's not what basketball, that's not how basketball was
Speaker 1: meant to be played. Yeah, point the byproduct, and you
Speaker 1: talked about this a long time ago, Dan on the show,
Speaker 1: is that scoring went down in the NBA and that
Speaker 1: really hurt with fans. Eighty six eighty seven season, the
Speaker 1: average NBA team scored one hundred and ten points exactly
Speaker 1: per game. A decade later it was ninety one point six.
Speaker 1: It went from one ten ninety one in twelve years.
Speaker 1: And then if you go back to last year, one
Speaker 1: hundred eleven points per game is the average NBA team scores.
Speaker 1: That's the most in thirty five years. They're just more freedom.
Speaker 1: You're spreading the floor. And if I spread the floor
Speaker 1: to allow Jordan to dine, it's not fairer. It wouldn't
Speaker 1: be fairer that if you spread the floor and then
Speaker 1: you gave Michael the ball at the top of the key,
Speaker 1: and you don't have a shock down there, you don't
Speaker 1: have a ewing down I mean like you don't have
Speaker 1: a menacing big man down there. He's just going he's
Speaker 1: going to take it and take it and take it
Speaker 1: and take it. Yeah, we talked about the Steph Curry
Speaker 1: effect four years ago and Steph was the MVP the
Speaker 1: fifteen sixteen season. NBA teams average one hundred and two
Speaker 1: points per game. Now it's up to one hundred and eleven.
Speaker 1: That's only four years ago. I mean, it's commonplace to
Speaker 1: have games that are in the one twenties. There were
Speaker 1: times when I remember doing highlights and it would be
Speaker 1: ninety to eighty six and you'd be like, God, this
Speaker 1: is bad basketball. It was. It was just it was
Speaker 1: just two big heavyweights leaning on each other, and it
Speaker 1: wasn't It wasn't fluid. It wasn't good basketball. Yeah, mcclem,
Speaker 1: what if he did like Harden? It did all the
Speaker 1: flopping around the three point line though, and he shot
Speaker 1: twenty seven free throws a game, that would be terrible.
Speaker 1: You know how Harden just stands up there and gets
Speaker 1: the foul. I don't remember Michael flailing, you know, when
Speaker 1: you think about it, I don't remember him. I think
Speaker 1: when he got contact, it was real contact. There'd be
Speaker 1: times when guys would drive down the lane, you know,
Speaker 1: the stars, and then you just here and one and
Speaker 1: I'd go who and guys would look around and go,
Speaker 1: who's the foul on and then it looked like the
Speaker 1: official was just saying, hey, sorry, I gotta, I gotta
Speaker 1: give you a foul here. I didn't I know, but
Speaker 1: that's Michael Jordan, That's that's Larry Burr. I'm sorry, I gotta,
Speaker 1: I gotta give you a foul here. Yeah, just to
Speaker 1: put it in perspective, three points attempted per game per team?
Speaker 1: So like, how many times it team attempts a three
Speaker 1: per game? When Michael Jordan was a rookie, team's average
Speaker 1: three point one attempts per game? What do you think
Speaker 1: it was last year? Three point three point per teams? Yeah,
Speaker 1: So like the average team goes out, the average team,
Speaker 1: not the Rockets, the average team attempts how many three
Speaker 1: per game? Again, thirty years ago it was three. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go twenty three. You're way low. It's thirty four
Speaker 1: attempts per game for each team. Yes, wow, And it's
Speaker 1: going up and up and up. Four years ago it
Speaker 1: was twenty four. Now it's thirty four. Eventually it will change.
Speaker 1: Eventually it will change. It will somebody will have a
Speaker 1: different philosophy. I still maintain that one day somebody's gonna say, hey,
Speaker 1: you know what deal with our our big men. You know,
Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna dominate here, and then then you're
Speaker 1: gonna have to play defense. Then you have to put
Speaker 1: bigger players on the floor. Like it. It's it's gonna
Speaker 1: something will change it. Does you know all these sports, Hey,
Speaker 1: I've figured it out, and then somebody figures it out.
Speaker 1: It's a game of chess, and then they figured it out.
Speaker 1: Now you change it. I don't know if we continue
Speaker 1: to do basketball three point shooting basketball like this in
Speaker 1: ten years from now and we look back, I might go, man,
Speaker 1: I was fool, But I think you're going to have
Speaker 1: a team that will be counterintuitive to what you know
Speaker 1: the game plan is, and that might change basketball. Another
Speaker 1: player might change basketball because of that, just like Steph
Speaker 1: Curry did. Yeah point. Another interesting stat, three point shooting
Speaker 1: percentage has not changed in thirty years. It's always anywhere
Speaker 1: from thirty three to thirty five percent by team is
Speaker 1: thirty five twenty five years ago with thirty five percent,
Speaker 1: it's still thirty five percent. I find that really interesting
Speaker 1: because we think we have better shooters now, we have
Speaker 1: more shooters, more three pointers attempted, not necessarily better shooters,
Speaker 1: just the volume there, we'll take a break. Mike Tyson's
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Speaker 1: coming up Sewer brooks Kepka recently donated one hundred thousand
Speaker 1: dollars to his foundation, and we'll go directly to the
Speaker 1: Community Foundation's COVID nineteen response Fund for Palm Beach and
Speaker 1: Martin Counties. And brooks Kepka, who I believe just turned
Speaker 1: thirty a couple of days ago, joins us on the program. Hey,
Speaker 1: good morning, Brooks. How are you good morning? How's it
Speaker 1: been going. I'm doing okay. What'd you do for your
Speaker 1: thirtieth birthday? Just hung out of the house. Um, let
Speaker 1: me just relaxed here, um celebrated and um, you know,
Speaker 1: just trying to make the best of a bad situation.
Speaker 1: I heard that you, uh, you went alcohol free for
Speaker 1: a little while. Yeah, I did. I did. I went
Speaker 1: thirty days. It didn't go thirty one, so no chance
Speaker 1: it was. That was very tempty. That was thirty one
Speaker 1: thirty one hurt. I did not. It felt like yesterday.
Speaker 1: What's your go to make glove ball traw? I like
Speaker 1: make glove balltra That's good man, It's it's nice. Um,
Speaker 1: it's perfect, especially down here. Man, it's warm, it's fun,
Speaker 1: perfect for the pool. I why is it I picked
Speaker 1: put dogs? Going? What kind of dog you got? I
Speaker 1: got a black lab? Oh my god, Park, She's taken
Speaker 1: her out. Now that's that's scared me there. Uh, why
Speaker 1: is it? I played better when I've had a couple
Speaker 1: of beers when I'm playing golf. Ah, it's so funny.
Speaker 1: Everybody just gets so relaxed and it feels, um, you know,
Speaker 1: they're not afraid to screw up anymore. It's amazing. You
Speaker 1: watch guys, it's literally there's that right zone though you've
Speaker 1: got to be in. Yeah, you can get overserved a
Speaker 1: little bit too much and then then it's not very
Speaker 1: good and then the game goes to crap. But there's
Speaker 1: a right amount. You've got to find that perfect amount
Speaker 1: for you. There is a fine line where it's like
Speaker 1: darts or bowling, where you go, man, I'm killing it,
Speaker 1: and then you have that next beer and you go
Speaker 1: on getting killed. I'm not any good at this. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's well, it's amazing. I mean you watch it every
Speaker 1: amateur and then you know, especially like the pro am,
Speaker 1: sometimes you guys are so nervous when they're playing with us,
Speaker 1: You're like, uh, I mean, I know it's earlier, but
Speaker 1: you want to you want to have a drink, and
Speaker 1: you know I'll loosen them up. It makes it fun.
Speaker 1: Have you ever played in a program where the amateur
Speaker 1: was playing better than you? Ah, I don't think so,
Speaker 1: but I had to think about it, so I don't
Speaker 1: know that's a good thing. He Do you ever have
Speaker 1: bets with people where? Because what what would you be?
Speaker 1: A plus seven plus six? I guess yeah, if you
Speaker 1: put it in somewhere around there. Um, yeah, well I'll bet.
Speaker 1: I'll bet the guys every once in a while and
Speaker 1: see what they've got. Um, it's fun, man. You watch them,
Speaker 1: You watch them get a little nervous and um, you know,
Speaker 1: because they're obviously it's fun for them. They're taking it really,
Speaker 1: really seriously, Um, as they should. I mean I would
Speaker 1: have I was in that situation, and yeah, they try
Speaker 1: to they try to take some dollars office. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: you you appeared to be like stealth with your trash talk,
Speaker 1: Like you don't strike me as outwardly, but it feels
Speaker 1: like you could be pretty good with just as side
Speaker 1: little jab there. How would you rate your game? Um? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I like my trash talking skills. I like
Speaker 1: that pretty good when you play do it kind of
Speaker 1: just as I walked by a little bit, you know,
Speaker 1: so you don't get to see him or really say
Speaker 1: anything back. He can't. He can't do anything like just
Speaker 1: a whisper. Yeah, just enough where you know I'm walked by,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh, he definitely heard me, but he
Speaker 1: might might have. You know, you're not really sure when
Speaker 1: you played with Jordan trash talk? Yeah, yeah I did.
Speaker 1: I mean you have to whynot? And then he shut
Speaker 1: me up pretty quick. I think that that was four
Speaker 1: or five years ago. Wait at that? How does he
Speaker 1: shut you up? We were playing, Um, we're playing all
Speaker 1: old Palm, I think down here in Florida. Yeah. Um,
Speaker 1: and Jay he was up. Um, he was up on
Speaker 1: me a little bit earlier than I got up on
Speaker 1: him finally and turned the tables. And then we're on
Speaker 1: sixteen um or we're walking on seventeen tea and I'm
Speaker 1: giving him shots in seventeen and eighteen and I forget
Speaker 1: what I said. I said something to him and he
Speaker 1: teased the ball up. He takes a practice swinging and
Speaker 1: he goes, it's fourth quarter, baby, I don't lose, Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, here we go. This is this is the
Speaker 1: j I remember, and then obviously goes on to win
Speaker 1: seventeen and then he just kind of looked at me
Speaker 1: on eighteen tea and then eighteen green. I think he
Speaker 1: shook he shook my hand and wanted to know where
Speaker 1: my where my wallet was at? But his Tiger. Are
Speaker 1: there parallels with that competitiveness with Tiger and Mike? I
Speaker 1: think so. I think there is. I think you look
Speaker 1: at it with every great athlete that's ever come across
Speaker 1: their sport, and I mean we're talking the best of
Speaker 1: the best, and that competitiveness is there. It doesn't matter
Speaker 1: if they're playing cards, m ping, pollen, golf, basketball, whatever
Speaker 1: it is. They just can't. They refuse to lose. Now,
Speaker 1: you strike me as a guy that needs action, like
Speaker 1: golf would be boring for a guy like you like
Speaker 1: you played basketball. Is golf boring to you? I think
Speaker 1: I think it just gets because it when I say
Speaker 1: it's boring, I've said it's boring. It just takes a
Speaker 1: very very long time to complete. And a dot to
Speaker 1: me is where I need the action. The excitement. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you hit a great shot, but then you still got
Speaker 1: five minutes before you walk up to go tap it
Speaker 1: in for Bertie. So it's like a five minute, like
Speaker 1: dull period of you know, you don't know what the
Speaker 1: other guys doing too. You can be making a mess
Speaker 1: with the whole searching for balls and um, you know,
Speaker 1: I just need that constant action, um more more, probably
Speaker 1: more than other guys. How often do you play basketball? Ah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. We were messing around the pool yesterday
Speaker 1: or was it two days ago, shooting around, but now
Speaker 1: I haven't I haven't touched for him in a long time.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. Could you dunk? I? Could I remember? Um?
Speaker 1: I forget where it was a couple of years ago,
Speaker 1: maybe two three years ago. We were in like a
Speaker 1: La fitness and uh, you know those gyms are so
Speaker 1: packed with the late at night. So I just grabbed
Speaker 1: the ball, went in there and true down twice, I think.
Speaker 1: But then I was like, I'm walking out of here,
Speaker 1: I'm done. Wait was it a rub dunk where you
Speaker 1: just just get it over the rim? Yeah? There there
Speaker 1: were a couple of attempts before it where it was
Speaker 1: very very close and then uh, I made I made
Speaker 1: it quite an interesting. That's all you did. You left
Speaker 1: him with an image, and that's all you need. It's
Speaker 1: just hey, Kepki was here and he was dunking. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: All it takes is one person to see it. Yeah. Uh.
Speaker 1: The next next event you're playing in is what whatever
Speaker 1: the first week back is. Um, it's supposed to be
Speaker 1: a colonial right now, which I think is the week
Speaker 1: of June eighth, I believe right now. Yeah, yeah, whenever that,
Speaker 1: whenever that first tournament is, I'm gonna be there. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be ready. Um. It's just exciting just to have
Speaker 1: something to look forward to. I think that was that
Speaker 1: was what was killing everybody is the unknown. You know,
Speaker 1: you're sitting there, Okay, you're trying to train, you're trying
Speaker 1: to do everything. Um, you know the best you can. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, don't have weights here, how to go get some? Um,
Speaker 1: You're just you're not used to doing the things that
Speaker 1: you're used to doing. So just to have something back
Speaker 1: now where it's okay, we can we can get back
Speaker 1: into the into the swing of things and start looking
Speaker 1: forward to to playing golf again and competitively because it's
Speaker 1: one thing to just go play with your boys, and
Speaker 1: then it's a complete another thing to actually go out
Speaker 1: and go to it up in a real thing. How
Speaker 1: do you think the pandemic is going to affect golf? Though?
Speaker 1: When you come back, it's going to be interesting. I think,
Speaker 1: um yeah, I think it's going to be interesting when
Speaker 1: the fans come back. Obviously, look as as an athlete,
Speaker 1: nobody wants to be playing, um just without it's it's
Speaker 1: what creates the energy. But I think now looking at it,
Speaker 1: it's going to be interesting how close they're going to
Speaker 1: be able to let fans because golf I mean, if
Speaker 1: you've ever been to Augusta, I mean, you can stand
Speaker 1: on those tea boxes and you can pretty much reach
Speaker 1: out and grab the guy as he's swinging. You can
Speaker 1: get pretty close to us. And you just wonder how
Speaker 1: how weird it is going to be going forward. You know,
Speaker 1: whether they're going to be pushed back further. You know,
Speaker 1: you look at like an NBA or baseball, do they
Speaker 1: redo the seating a little bit? You know, you never
Speaker 1: know what's going to happen. But hopefully and hopefully we
Speaker 1: just get fans. I mean that's where the energy is
Speaker 1: that's what makes it fun. And who doesn't love, you know,
Speaker 1: hitting like a crowd pleaser and everybody goes nuts. I
Speaker 1: had the commissioner on a couple of weeks ago and
Speaker 1: I said, why don't you? And I brought this up
Speaker 1: to Bubba Watson. I said, why didn't you guys just
Speaker 1: carry your own bags? That way? I take the caddy
Speaker 1: out of this, so even more social distancing, Like, let's
Speaker 1: see who can carry their own sticks? And what do
Speaker 1: you think it'd be interesting? I think it actually be
Speaker 1: a lot of fun to just to watch some of
Speaker 1: these guys attempt to carry their own bag. I don't
Speaker 1: think some of them have ever picked up their bag
Speaker 1: in their life. Who wouldn't it would be fun? Who
Speaker 1: wouldn't make it eighteen holes carrying their own bag? Ah?
Speaker 1: Who wouldn't make it eighteen carrying the bag? Um? I
Speaker 1: don't know. I actually don't think Bubble would. Bubble would
Speaker 1: be complaining how heavy the bag is the entire time.
Speaker 1: I love the guy, but there's no way he makes
Speaker 1: it around eighteen with that bag? Isn't he always complaining
Speaker 1: about something? Yeah? It's great, I love it. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think it's hilarious. He's a good dude. He's a good
Speaker 1: dude deep down. You just gotta get to know him.
Speaker 1: What do you think Thanksgiving's gonna be like it Augusta.
Speaker 1: That's gonna be way different. I don't think any of
Speaker 1: us know even what to expect. It's gonna be so cold. Um,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be it's ball taking me be fe far
Speaker 1: is overseated. What are they going to do is they're
Speaker 1: actually gonna be rough? Those holes are going to play
Speaker 1: long in the wind direction I think switches. I don't
Speaker 1: know that for a fact, but somebody told me that
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago. It's every part five basically
Speaker 1: plays into the wind from what I was told. So
Speaker 1: it's going to change the golf course. I think you'll
Speaker 1: see scores around even poor instead of that twelve fifteen
Speaker 1: under that year you've been accustomed to. And I think
Speaker 1: it could really affect that back nine. You see obviously
Speaker 1: eleven's hard, twelve there's plenty of water balls, thirteen you
Speaker 1: might not be able to get there anymore. And fifteen
Speaker 1: being the part five, you know, it might not be
Speaker 1: as exciting. It was a finish. I was able to
Speaker 1: play Augusta a couple of times, and I came back
Speaker 1: and told my friends, I said, you know what's weird?
Speaker 1: As you stand on twelve and you're playing twelve just
Speaker 1: like everybody plays twelve. I'm playing at the same yardage
Speaker 1: that you are. And you stand there and you go
Speaker 1: when you watch on TV, you go, why is that
Speaker 1: a big deal? And then you get there on twelve
Speaker 1: and you go eleven pin, I'm looking at the flag, thirteen,
Speaker 1: t box, the trees, I'm looking at the how they're
Speaker 1: blowing like you factory in. It's sensory overload there with
Speaker 1: a shot that's what one forty nine or something like that,
Speaker 1: and it's like you you get demons in your head.
Speaker 1: What do you think when you get to twelve? You
Speaker 1: try to think as little as possible. You got I'll
Speaker 1: never forget. Like last year when I hit in the
Speaker 1: water on Sunday. It's interesting because I actually backed off
Speaker 1: the shot before before I went in, because you felt
Speaker 1: the winter action, you know, I think it was just
Speaker 1: supposed to be a little bit in and maybe out
Speaker 1: of the right and or no, it's supposed to be
Speaker 1: in off the lap, and I felt they go in
Speaker 1: off the right, So it just kind of confuses you
Speaker 1: a little bit, and then all of a sudden you
Speaker 1: back off and then I look over eleven pin like
Speaker 1: you said, and now it's going down wind. You're like,
Speaker 1: what come on? And then you know, you look up
Speaker 1: into trees and thirteen and they're going sideways. And then
Speaker 1: it doesn't feel like there's anything. It's just you got
Speaker 1: to hit it at the right time and get quite lucky.
Speaker 1: To be honest with you, it's it's interesting. And then
Speaker 1: on top of that, you got everybody hooting in the
Speaker 1: holler and when it goes in the water, and it's
Speaker 1: just it could be it could be a really great
Speaker 1: tea box if you hit the green. And it is
Speaker 1: miserable when you got to walk with another one hundred
Speaker 1: yards in front of you and drop and those fans
Speaker 1: are right on you. I mean the holes are so compacted.
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean they're they're they're right there as
Speaker 1: if they're walking with you, they're carrying your bag. I mean,
Speaker 1: they're so close to you. What kind of grief did
Speaker 1: they give you? On twelve on Sunday, I just remember
Speaker 1: I remember actually laughing. I heard some guy just clear
Speaker 1: his throat a couple of times. What is it? To
Speaker 1: say you were choking. Yeah, yeah, you hear a couple
Speaker 1: You can hear a couple of I mean, I don't listen.
Speaker 1: We get paid to put up with that stuff. It's fun,
Speaker 1: but I actually enjoy it, you know, the more the
Speaker 1: more the fans get into it and they chirp. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's fun. I would do the same thing if I
Speaker 1: was out there watching. Did they make you laugh? Oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I have to. I won't respond to I usually don't
Speaker 1: respond to it unless it's it's quite funny. I'll engage
Speaker 1: in them. But other than that, you know, I try
Speaker 1: to try to keep it to him, in him, because
Speaker 1: you never know what's going to come out. Brooks recently
Speaker 1: donated one hundred thousand dollars to the Rooks Kepka Foundation
Speaker 1: that will go directly to community foundations. COVID nineteen response
Speaker 1: fun for Palm Beach and U Martin Counties. Hair looks good,
Speaker 1: looks nice and tight. They're on the sides. Your girlfriend
Speaker 1: do the honors there. Yeah, yeah, it's coming back. It's
Speaker 1: coming back. She h. I think you should go mullet. Well,
Speaker 1: for a while, I wasn't sure if I was going
Speaker 1: to have anything. Man, I didn't know what was gonna
Speaker 1: I mean this side you could still see a little
Speaker 1: there's a little gash or I don't know what you
Speaker 1: call that. It's like a vanilla ice where he had
Speaker 1: the lightning bolt in the side of his exactly, which
Speaker 1: actually that would have been a great little cover up too.
Speaker 1: You start throwing those those stripes down the side, you
Speaker 1: can still do it. You got a little time before
Speaker 1: you're getting out of the house. I'll pat at this point. Hey,
Speaker 1: it's always great to go back. Always great to talk
Speaker 1: to you, Brooks. We appreciate the time and we'll look
Speaker 1: forward to seeing you in June. Yep, you gotta thanks you.
Speaker 1: All right, we'll take a break here were your phone
Speaker 1: call is coming up. We'll update our whole question after
Speaker 1: this and Mike Florio from Pro Football Talk coming up
Speaker 1: here on The Dan Patrick Show. Thanks for listening to
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Speaker 1: Patrick Show. It's been a fun show. I always love
Speaker 1: talking to Patrick Ewing and Brooks Capca. I think is
Speaker 1: a sneaky good interview. I remember when people were talking,
Speaker 1: you know, we were asking about, Hey, what about Brooks
Speaker 1: Kapco and you know, people said, well, he doesn't do
Speaker 1: many interviews and this is a couple of years ago.
Speaker 1: And I said it, Fritzie, I said, let's just try it.
Speaker 1: It looks like he's one of those guys that's got
Speaker 1: a personality, probably doesn't share it, just by the way
Speaker 1: his demeanor on the course. And then he started to win.
Speaker 1: He's got four majors. And then that first time we
Speaker 1: had him on, he was fun, made fun of the
Speaker 1: s medium church that he wears, and got a sneaky
Speaker 1: sense of humor. It's good to have him on. I
Speaker 1: got this Mike Tyson story. Let me get to John
Speaker 1: in New Zealand. Hey, John, good to have you back.
Speaker 1: How are you good? Dannett shout out to the Bedroom boys,
Speaker 1: Mario and the crew Dan. I think I may just
Speaker 1: have been listening to you guys for too long. Because
Speaker 1: POORI said that he would gladly turn in his sister
Speaker 1: because she had Patrick Ewing's medals and immediately food, Well,
Speaker 1: that's because he contented in his stead because his dad's dead. Wow, Wow,
Speaker 1: where's that from? What? John? From all the way from
Speaker 1: New Zealand and you take a shot at PAULI well,
Speaker 1: well in proud of me? I should that make sense? John?
Speaker 1: I'm not even sure where the bit is there? Quite
Speaker 1: aware of my dad's dad. Wow, you have been listening
Speaker 1: too long, John, And my dad was alive and he
Speaker 1: stole Patrick Huing bettles. I would have turned his asset.
Speaker 1: I love Patrick Hughing no offense, thank you, John. That's
Speaker 1: John in New Zealand with a shot at Paul. I
Speaker 1: normally don't feel bad for you, Paul, but I in
Speaker 1: that situation I did. I just didn't know where the
Speaker 1: analogy was. He's like, yeah, you're turning your sister. My
Speaker 1: mom's live. You could have made the same joke and
Speaker 1: used my mom. She's perfectly fine. Yes. Well, you know
Speaker 1: when we had the director on from the Last Dance
Speaker 1: and he was talking about how well you know that
Speaker 1: the episode. The toughest question was definitely asking Michael Jordan
Speaker 1: about his father dying and all of that stuff, and
Speaker 1: you know, it's just so difficult to, you know, ask
Speaker 1: people those types of questions all I could think of
Speaker 1: was how that was like one of my favorite bits
Speaker 1: we have going. It's whose dad is dead? Like the
Speaker 1: funniest thing this show leads the league and dad dad
Speaker 1: humor with Fritzie and Paulie and myself. At some point,
Speaker 1: Andrew's gonna be like, well, I don't know, I'll call
Speaker 1: my dad. I know, yes, yes. By the way, John
Speaker 1: and he might be the nicest thing. He's a sweetheart.
Speaker 1: That's why I went. John from New Zealand is going
Speaker 1: to do this to Paullie Man coming to take a
Speaker 1: twenty seven hour flight to kick his ass. I don't
Speaker 1: know if you saw this training clip of Mike Tyson
Speaker 1: recently it went viral. I guess, um he might try
Speaker 1: to come back and do some fighting. He's fifty three
Speaker 1: years years of age. I guess it's a good time
Speaker 1: to come back. I have no idea the trainer. I
Speaker 1: don't know if this is his trainer said, I didn't
Speaker 1: know what to expect. Raphael Cordero, he hasn't hit mitts
Speaker 1: for almost ten years, so I didn't expect to see
Speaker 1: what I saw. I saw a guy with the same speed,
Speaker 1: same power as a guy twenty one twenty two years old.
Speaker 1: All right, I mean if George Foreman did it at
Speaker 1: what forty eight? The trainer says, it's not a joke.
Speaker 1: I believe Mike could fight. I don't know what to
Speaker 1: tell I don't know what I can tell you. If
Speaker 1: he wants to do something in the future, we'll be
Speaker 1: ready for that. One percent. His next session is scheduled
Speaker 1: for today. You imagine a third fight with the vander
Speaker 1: holy Field. According to the trainer, No, no, no, I'm
Speaker 1: not that desperate. I'm not that desperate for live sports there.
Speaker 1: But look, it's good to see Mike, you know, hitting
Speaker 1: the mits, hitting the speedbag, because he looks like he
Speaker 1: needs to get in shape a little bit. He still
Speaker 1: has that power. Kenny, how long can he? You know,
Speaker 1: boxing you can tell you go, oh, those are three
Speaker 1: minute rounds. Those aren't a big deal. Try it. Try
Speaker 1: a couple of them and throw punches, and then have
Speaker 1: somebody throw punches at you, and you go, I'm winded.
Speaker 1: It's only been two rounds, Mike. The endurance part of
Speaker 1: this now, I don't know if you're going to have
Speaker 1: you know, Geezer division where you got guys over fifty
Speaker 1: leaning on each other. But Tyson wants to get in
Speaker 1: and he, you know, gets the black trunks and the
Speaker 1: black high tops, come on in. Yeah, sure, why not? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, Dan, I think you're in the minority.
Speaker 1: I'd already I'd prepay for that fight. Though. Oh God,
Speaker 1: if you told me that it would be competitive, like
Speaker 1: they wouldn't embarrass themselves, then yeah, then I'd be fine.
Speaker 1: I just don't want them to get in there and
Speaker 1: all of a sudden they're just they're gassed, they're leaning
Speaker 1: on each other. And haven't we haven't we turned the
Speaker 1: corner with a heavyweight division. Don't we have a little
Speaker 1: bit more of substance there with a heavyweight division? How
Speaker 1: about Mike Tyson versus Tyson Fury. Now, that wouldn't go well.
Speaker 1: Mike would have to get a certain opponent, a specific opponent.
Speaker 1: It'd have to be somebody who basically was a tomato can,
Speaker 1: because that's what Mike had his career built on. That.
Speaker 1: Don King did a wonderful job in creating this image,
Speaker 1: this superhero. We had not seen anything like this, The
Speaker 1: punching power you have. You know, people actually debate how
Speaker 1: would Mike Tyson do against Muhammad Ali. I mean, that's embarrassing.
Speaker 1: If you know boxing and you're actually debating, you know,
Speaker 1: Lebron and Michael, you might not think that's close Tyson
Speaker 1: and Ali. Not even in the same ring, not even
Speaker 1: in the same building, not even in the same stratosphere. Ali,
Speaker 1: with his size and his reach, it would not be fair.
Speaker 1: That's why Mike didn't want to fight Lennox Lewis and
Speaker 1: Ali could take a punch. Mike couldn't. You know, Buster
Speaker 1: Douglas gave him. True if you had hype and had
Speaker 1: reach on Mike and you made him go past three rounds,
Speaker 1: he had to box. And that's where Mike ran into trouble.
Speaker 1: Plain and simple. Evander Holyfield, you'd think wouldn't be able
Speaker 1: to last, but he did because he outboxed him. He
Speaker 1: frustrated Mike so much he bit his ear off, part
Speaker 1: of his ear. Ali would frustrate Mike so much. Go
Speaker 1: back and look at the young Ali man. Man, he
Speaker 1: was so brilliant, so brilliant, and that ability to have
Speaker 1: that kind of footwork, that speed and talk a game.
Speaker 1: I mean, he would be in Mike's ear when not
Speaker 1: in his ear, but he would be. He'd let Mike know,
Speaker 1: but now that that would not there's no debate there.
Speaker 1: Mike was a wonderful he was a phenomenon, and that
Speaker 1: was nineteen eighty six, I think, on the cover of
Speaker 1: Sports Illustrated, and that next week is the first time
Speaker 1: I met Mike Tyson in the Catskills, and he was
Speaker 1: raw as raw can be had He had no there
Speaker 1: was no charm, there was no Now we've since had
Speaker 1: him on and he's got a wonderful personality, but back
Speaker 1: then he was all business and he was rough around
Speaker 1: the edges. But if he wants come back and somebody
Speaker 1: wants to fight him at the age of fifty three,
Speaker 1: and well, they'll sanction anything. Now, they'd probably get that
Speaker 1: to happen. Mike Florio joins us coming up Fox in
Speaker 1: Football with him after this