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Speaker 1: What's up, guys. Welcome into a brand new episode of

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Speaker 1: Chargers Weekly. We are exactly one week away from football

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Speaker 1: becoming real, and if you listen to this podcast, you're

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Speaker 1: probably in a fantasy draft, and that fantasy draft is

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Speaker 1: probably this weekend. So I try to time it up

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Speaker 1: the right way. Friend of the show, NFL Media is

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Speaker 1: Marcus Grant does an awesome job all things fantasy at

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Speaker 1: NFL Network. Marcus, it's been a while, man, How are

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Speaker 1: you doing doing well? Man? Just you know, we're all

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Speaker 1: trying to survive, right, but football's back. That makes life

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Speaker 1: a little bit better. So let's let's tee it up

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Speaker 1: and get ready to go. Let's do it. What's this

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Speaker 1: week like for you? I'm sure people coming out of

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Speaker 1: the woodwork for advice as we get closer to the season. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you can sort of tell. I can tell when we're

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Speaker 1: getting closer because, like my Twitter mentioned and my DM

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Speaker 1: start to fill up a little bit more with people, like,

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Speaker 1: you know, people that maybe haven't talked to in a

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Speaker 1: little while. I know this is sort of it's a

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Speaker 1: weird deadweek, right, This whole non week between the preseason

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Speaker 1: and the regular season is new, so I'm still trying

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Speaker 1: to figure out how to survive it. So I'm just

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Speaker 1: I'm treating us like an extended Week one. Basically, that's

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Speaker 1: pretty much what it is. And for the purposes of

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Speaker 1: this podcast, guys, what we'll do is we're gonna go

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Speaker 1: through each position group, the charger or chargers in those

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Speaker 1: position groups and where Marcus thinks they're gonna go. And

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Speaker 1: in addition to that, Marcus is going to give us

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Speaker 1: a couple of sleepers at that position that maybe you

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Speaker 1: could target a little bit later. Let's just start at

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Speaker 1: the top with Justin Herbert, the raiding offensive rookie of

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Speaker 1: the year. I think last year the QB nine and

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Speaker 1: he started Week two thirty one touchdowns, ten interceptions, over

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Speaker 1: forty three hundred yards, passing a new offense, a new

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Speaker 1: coaching staff, Marcus, He's proven that he has a built

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Speaker 1: in connection with Keenan Allen. There's so many other playmakers

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Speaker 1: on this offense. How do you view Justin Herbert in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty one. I still think he's a top ten quarterback.

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Speaker 1: And I know there's some concerns about just the learning

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Speaker 1: but I think what we saw out of him last

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Speaker 1: be among the top tier quarterbacks not only in this

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Speaker 1: league but in fantasy football, and he's really being drafted

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Speaker 1: as such. Most times I see him coming off the

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Speaker 1: board somewhere as the quarterback eight or nine something around there.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna have to make a play for him, and

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Speaker 1: probably the sixth round if you want to get him.

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Speaker 1: But just with the way he jumped in last year, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean literally thrown into the deep end of the

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Speaker 1: that game and just really taking off from there, I

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Speaker 1: think gives people a lot of confidence. Then you throw

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Speaker 1: in the weapons around him with Keenan Allen, with Austin Eckler,

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Speaker 1: with Mike Williams. I think that just goes to show

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Speaker 1: you're gonna have to make kind of an earlier play

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Speaker 1: if you want Justin Herbert as your quarter back and marks.

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Speaker 1: I think the mystery around it too is you mentioned

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Speaker 1: a new offense. What's that gonna look like in comparison

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Speaker 1: to last year? Justin has the wheels, will those rushing

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Speaker 1: touchdowns potentially go up, and then the absence of Austin

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Speaker 1: Ekeler for a stretch of the twenty twenty season. How

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Speaker 1: much better will that make Justin? Taking all that into consideration,

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Speaker 1: what do you think Justin Ceiling is in twenty one?

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Speaker 1: I think In Ceiling is probably a top five quarterback,

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Speaker 1: you know, I think more realistically, I think you're probably

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Speaker 1: pegging him about where he finished last year, right that's

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Speaker 1: I still like guys ahead of him, like Mahomes, like

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Speaker 1: maybe a Dak Prescott or maybe a Lamar Jackson in there.

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Speaker 1: But there's really a small number of players that I

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Speaker 1: feel like have the potential to score more Fantasy points

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Speaker 1: How wait do you? How late do you wait rather?

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Speaker 1: get Julio Jones, which you know, getting a guy like

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Speaker 1: Julio Jones only makes your offense better, right you pair

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Speaker 1: him with AJ Brown, You've got Derek Henry standing behind you.

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Speaker 1: I can get it. All good stuff. Let's go to

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Speaker 1: running back Austin Ekeler. There's some mystery around this guy too,

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Speaker 1: because there is a new offense here and a lot

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Speaker 1: And where would you be comfortable selecting Austin For the

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Speaker 1: Now that he's not there, maybe some of those opportunities

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Speaker 1: wide receivers. I think this is twenty seventeen. There's been

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Speaker 1: few receivers as consistent as Keenan Allen. You know, we're

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Speaker 1: talking four straight Pro Bowls. From a fantasy perspective. Last

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Speaker 1: found that instant connection with Justin Herbert. I think he

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Speaker 1: How do you view Keenan Allen? Would you be comfortable

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Speaker 1: where can people find you this upcoming season? Yeah, well,

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430
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Speaker 1: sort of fine tuning some stuff before you get to

431
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Speaker 1: the game planning. But it was actually really funny to

432
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Speaker 1: hear Chris Harris's perspective on it, because he was like, no,

433
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Speaker 1: that's weird, Like this is a little different, especially when

434
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Speaker 1: you've been in the NFL for as long as he

435
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Speaker 1: has too, Especially because when you have a week off

436
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Speaker 1: you wanted to be during the season, right after like

437
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Speaker 1: five or six games, not when you're fresh in like

438
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Speaker 1: Champion had a bit to go at it in week one. Haley.

439
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Speaker 1: Obviously we're gonna talk about the podcast network. We got

440
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Speaker 1: a lot of stuff cooking starting next week. But you

441
00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:58,919
Speaker 1: and I were at camp every day. Your observations from

442
00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:04,400
Speaker 1: a Brandon Staley led training camp, so much new really

443
00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:06,080
Speaker 1: kind of a breath of fresh air as we head

444
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Speaker 1: into twenty twenty one. Yeah, I'm kind of gonna reference

445
00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:12,800
Speaker 1: Chris Harris again because he talked a bit about Staley's

446
00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:15,280
Speaker 1: philosophy and you and I heard him talk about this

447
00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:18,400
Speaker 1: this week throughout camp. Whatever it is that he's very

448
00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:22,240
Speaker 1: much hell bent on inputting the why, finding the why,

449
00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:24,720
Speaker 1: and teaching the why as to how they do things.

450
00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:27,439
Speaker 1: And Chris Harris talked about you know, from the get go,

451
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Speaker 1: from the beginning, it wasn't hey, this is your job,

452
00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:32,199
Speaker 1: this is what you're gonna do. It's hey, let's just

453
00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:34,919
Speaker 1: talk football. Let's just talk about the game. Let's just

454
00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,480
Speaker 1: talk about who we're playing and talk it out. And

455
00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:39,520
Speaker 1: he said, it's just really interesting. And when you talk

456
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Speaker 1: about that new breath of fresh air, Chris Harris said,

457
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Speaker 1: it might be a generational thing. It might be that,

458
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Speaker 1: you know, he is sort of new and might have

459
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Speaker 1: kind of taken pieces of this along the way. Ronaldo

460
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Speaker 1: Hill likened him a lot to Nick Sabin, that that's

461
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Speaker 1: when he was with Sabin. I believe in Miami that

462
00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:57,200
Speaker 1: was a similar philosophy that he had. And so it's

463
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Speaker 1: really sort of now we're seeing that take shape. We

464
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Speaker 1: saw it kind of go throughout training camp, kind of

465
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Speaker 1: start in the preseason, but this is really where we're

466
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Speaker 1: going to find out what this team is. I think

467
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Speaker 1: just general observations. You know. Another thing that Staley did

468
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Speaker 1: too was like in practice very similar to how games

469
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Speaker 1: are set up, and Chris talked about this in his

470
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Speaker 1: presser again is you know, we saw a huge emphasis

471
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Speaker 1: on special teams, which I think is a two parter.

472
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Speaker 1: It's partly because this team hasn't been great on that

473
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Speaker 1: side of the ball over the last few years, so

474
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Speaker 1: there is an emphasis on it, but also their periods

475
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Speaker 1: in games. Chris Harris Jr. Said, where we're not out

476
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Speaker 1: on the field, you know, we're kind of hanging on

477
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Speaker 1: the sideline, So getting some of maybe those breaks that

478
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Speaker 1: were put in the practice schedule, having those special teams chunks,

479
00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:44,840
Speaker 1: getting guys kind of acclimated to hey, when you're in

480
00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:46,680
Speaker 1: a game, you're not on the field the whole time,

481
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Speaker 1: you're going to have breaks, and really kind of get

482
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Speaker 1: them in that mindset because we're getting close. You know,

483
00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:54,600
Speaker 1: Week one is literally a week away. There is a

484
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Speaker 1: game to be played one week from today. Next week.

485
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Speaker 1: I think it's Cowboys Buccaneers, I want to say. So

486
00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:02,840
Speaker 1: it's just really interesting, you know, the philosophies that have

487
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Speaker 1: kind of unfolded and now we're going to see it

488
00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:09,280
Speaker 1: in action. There's so many, I think, beliefs among the league,

489
00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:13,560
Speaker 1: varying beliefs when it comes to preseason and how much

490
00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:16,720
Speaker 1: you play your starters, and you know, we've seen I

491
00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:19,080
Speaker 1: think Josh Allen threw them all like twenty six times

492
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Speaker 1: in The Bill's preseason finale versus a team like the

493
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Speaker 1: Rams or the Chargers where they're not putting their guys

494
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Speaker 1: out there until it counts. And Coach Daley has talked

495
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Speaker 1: about these practices, how important those practices are, and I

496
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Speaker 1: agree with you. I think one of the cool observations

497
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Speaker 1: is seeing how much special teams was kind of put

498
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Speaker 1: in between certain sections of practice, almost kind of simulating

499
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Speaker 1: a game in many ways, and that philosophy. If you

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Speaker 1: haven't listened to Coach Daley's presser, I think from Wednesday,

501
00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:58,879
Speaker 1: listen to that. It's such an interesting press conference, talking

502
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Speaker 1: about the why, talking about hey, the show don't or

503
00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:06,520
Speaker 1: was it the show don't tell? You know, the old

504
00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 1: like journalism like show me, don't tell me. It's almost

505
00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:14,080
Speaker 1: like showing you how to do something as opposed to

506
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Speaker 1: telling you how to do something. And he had so

507
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Speaker 1: many wisdom nuggets in that pressor that I suggest people

508
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Speaker 1: check out But one of those things Haley that kind

509
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Speaker 1: of struck me was I want these players to know

510
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Speaker 1: what the other twenty one guys on the field are doing,

511
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Speaker 1: because once I know that, then I can really be

512
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Speaker 1: at my best in my position. So it almost requires

513
00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:44,120
Speaker 1: these guys to think even more so, but to get

514
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Speaker 1: to a point where it's so second nature you're not

515
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Speaker 1: thinking at the end of the day. Yeah, I think

516
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Speaker 1: that's a huge part of it. It is just getting

517
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Speaker 1: them extremely, extremely comfortable, whether it's with the schemes, whether

518
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Speaker 1: it's with certain plays. I remember he talked about in

519
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Speaker 1: that press or talking to someone like Ooe Boson running

520
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Speaker 1: through you know, hey, we hear five plays, What do

521
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Speaker 1: you think of these plays against this opponent? What do

522
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Speaker 1: you like the best out of these five? Which one

523
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Speaker 1: do you think won't be the best. And it seems

524
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Speaker 1: also very collaborative, you know. I think back to even

525
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Speaker 1: a pressor earlier this offseason that Kenneth Murray gave where

526
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Speaker 1: he talked about how he's going to be playing more downhill.

527
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Speaker 1: They're kind of retooling him in his role in this

528
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Speaker 1: defense to be more like what he did at college,

529
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Speaker 1: because that's what Staley felt he did best and so

530
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Speaker 1: kind of being really collaborative and getting on the same

531
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Speaker 1: page so that, like you said, you know what everyone's doing,

532
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Speaker 1: but that there aren't questions. And I think it was

533
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Speaker 1: Joe Ready who when he was talking with Chris Harrison

534
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Speaker 1: the presser today, said, you know the word freelance, Like, so,

535
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Speaker 1: no one's really freelancing. Everyone kind of knows what they're

536
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Speaker 1: going to be doing, knows what works best, and that's

537
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Speaker 1: sort of on the cuff. Mentality won't be quite as there.

538
00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 1: Although look, we know it's the NFL, We know that

539
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:53,120
Speaker 1: things happen in games, and you always have to stay

540
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Speaker 1: on your toes, but preparing as much as possible so

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Speaker 1: that you do feel as most comfortable as you can

542
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Speaker 1: once a game kicks off. That game kicks off ten

543
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Speaker 1: days from as we're taping this on Thursday. And what

544
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Speaker 1: I think is just so wild, Hailey, is we have

545
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Speaker 1: no idea what to expect September twelfth in Washington on offense, defense,

546
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Speaker 1: special teams. This is all new. We see what we

547
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Speaker 1: see on the practice field before practice now during training camp,

548
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 1: but because we haven't seen any of these starters in preseason,

549
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Speaker 1: that intrigue surrounding that game and who's on the other side.

550
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Speaker 1: When we talk about Chase Young and Mantes Sweat and

551
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:45,040
Speaker 1: all these really cool storylines within the game. It has

552
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:49,960
Speaker 1: to be so fun for Chargers fans to just think

553
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Speaker 1: about getting to September twelfth and then actually watching it

554
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Speaker 1: here in ten days. Yeah, it really is a new era.

555
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Speaker 1: And when you talk about the lack of starters that

556
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Speaker 1: played in the preseason, it's a huge surprise. It is

557
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,359
Speaker 1: going to be a huge surprise because obviously the preseason

558
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 1: and Staley talked about this too, you know, things are

559
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,680
Speaker 1: very vanilla, things are very basic to a point where

560
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 1: you just want to know what you can get out

561
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Speaker 1: of some of these guys who are on the bubble

562
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Speaker 1: or that you might have questions about. And so I

563
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 1: think once you know, we do see that, it's going

564
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 1: to be really interesting and really exciting and to see

565
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Speaker 1: it all come together. And I think another huge part

566
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Speaker 1: of this too is the fans are back. You know,

567
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Speaker 1: having fans back and stands and having more of a

568
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Speaker 1: real NFL atmosphere is going to be something that's also

569
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Speaker 1: really exciting. Is this twenty twenty one season unfolds just

570
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Speaker 1: because of the fact that that was missing last year,

571
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Speaker 1: you know, especially for us out here in LA we

572
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Speaker 1: did not have any of that. I know some games

573
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Speaker 1: on the road they were sprinkled in, but still not

574
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Speaker 1: to the effect that it could have been. So I

575
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Speaker 1: just think all of that is it's really intriguing and

576
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,480
Speaker 1: we'll see, but we're really excited. I also, I just

577
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:54,160
Speaker 1: want to take a moment to say, just like, how

578
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Speaker 1: crazy is it that the season is pretty much almost here.

579
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Speaker 1: I Mean, we joke all the time about off seasons

580
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 1: and how you know, people ask us like, oh, what

581
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 1: do you do in the off season, and it's like

582
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,359
Speaker 1: what off season? You know? And now here we are

583
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Speaker 1: in early September and we're ready to just you know,

584
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 1: roll it on one more time. I'm excited to actually

585
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,479
Speaker 1: just talk about football, but because we do get to

586
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Speaker 1: a point where we're talking about the potential of this

587
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:22,439
Speaker 1: team and what could be and you know, on paper,

588
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:26,399
Speaker 1: all these things in the offseason, all thirty two teams

589
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:30,359
Speaker 1: right now have some sort of hope that they're gonna

590
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Speaker 1: have a winning season or they're gonna make a run

591
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Speaker 1: at a wildcard spot or a division title, a conference championship,

592
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 1: a super Bowl. Now we can see it shake out

593
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 1: and for the Chargers, you play the NFC East, you

594
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 1: got two tough games really off the rip against Washington

595
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Speaker 1: and Dallas before going to Kansas City and the Raiders.

596
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Speaker 1: You got the Broncos with a pretty loaded team. Now,

597
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater, we know is gonna be under center. What

598
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Speaker 1: if conversations that you've had at training camp. I know

599
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 1: you've talked to a lot of people just about this division,

600
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 1: and we know it starts with Kansas City and everybody

601
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 1: is chasing them at this point. But after that, you know,

602
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 1: Vegas has had their moments. The Broncos have a pretty

603
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Speaker 1: good defense. When you talk about that loaded secondary and

604
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 1: having Von Miller and Bradley chubback, and then the Chargers,

605
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 1: I think the biggest piece in addition to justin Herbert

606
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 1: Hilly is just having a Derwin James back. Yeah. I

607
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 1: think look like you said, it starts at Kansas City.

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Speaker 1: They are you know, they've been at the AFC, They've

609
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 1: been at the Super Bowl, excuse me, two straight years

610
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 1: in a row, one the AFC Championship two straight years.

611
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Speaker 1: They are you know up there, they've won the whole Enchilada.

612
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 1: They fell short last year. I think I saw a

613
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Speaker 1: tweet yesterday, and I might be wrong about this, and

614
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 1: I'm trying to correct myself and find it, but I

615
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 1: think I saw that the Broncos have had one of

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Speaker 1: the least amounts of roster turnover from year to year,

617
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 1: which means that they actually really like the guys who

618
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 1: they had, and now they're kind of working with it.

619
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Speaker 1: And Teddy Bridgewater obviously going to be starting there at

620
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 1: Joe Lombardi today actually said he has so much respect

621
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Speaker 1: for him, very familiar worked with him obviously in Nora

622
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Speaker 1: or Lenson. He goes, man, I wish that guy was

623
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Speaker 1: in a different division, But you know, it's the NFL.

624
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 1: It's a little incestuous. Everyone kind of comes and goes,

625
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 1: and it makes their way. And then you look at

626
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 1: you look at the Raiders. You look at a team

627
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 1: that's very familiar with this Chargers team now just because

628
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 1: of a lot of the coaches that have gone over there.

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Speaker 1: You think of Gus Bradley, run my list, and then

630
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 1: a lot of the players too familiar face and Denzel

631
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Speaker 1: Perriman now coming over. So that Week four game is

632
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 1: going to be so interesting to me. And you and

633
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 1: I have talked offline about this, but just from a

634
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 1: defensive Raiders perspective, and how they'll handle the Chargers offense,

635
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 1: which is going to be different as we know, but

636
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 1: yet there is familiarity. They know Keenan Allen, they know

637
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert, they know these guys. I think this is

638
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 1: still one of the most competitive divisions in the entire NFL,

639
00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 1: and I think it's going to be competitive against again,

640
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 1: excuse me, this year, and I'm really excited to see

641
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 1: it unfold again. You have you know, the Chargers play

642
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 1: the Chiefs and the Raiders very early, they play Denver

643
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 1: twice very late, and then they close out the season again.

644
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 1: I think I think they get them all three again.

645
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 1: You get the Broncos after Thanksgiving, I want to say,

646
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 1: and then you get the rest of the three Casey

647
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 1: Denver in Vegas in December and January. And so you know,

648
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 1: that's we can say this now and we'll probably talk

649
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 1: about it in season. That's the easiest road to getting

650
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 1: to the playoffs is winning your division and winning those games.

651
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 1: And everyone has a clean slate, and we're about to

652
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 1: start it off very soon, and we should know pretty

653
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 1: early where this Chargers team's at. When we talk about

654
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 1: Washington Dallas, Kansas City, Oakland, Oh, by the way, Cleveland,

655
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 1: who a lot of people think could be making that

656
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 1: next step, Baltimore, New England. It's not an easy schedule

657
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 1: by any means to start, so you're gonna have a

658
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 1: pretty good idea of where you're at and if you can,

659
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 1: if you could start those first seven games above five hundred,

660
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 1: you really set yourself up, especially when we know that

661
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 1: these guys have not really played together in this scheme,

662
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 1: from the offensive line to the back end of the

663
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 1: second dary. You're going to gain confidence each and every week.

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Speaker 1: So it won't be easy to start, but if you

665
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 1: can kind of keep your head above water a little bit,

666
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 1: you can really make a run in a seventeen game season.

667
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 1: That's a huge part of it. And I think the

668
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 1: great thing about this Chargers team is as unfamiliar as

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Speaker 1: some of those positions might be, there is a guy

670
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 1: who has seen it before, has done it before, has

671
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 1: been part of this team before in those areas. So

672
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 1: you look at the offensive line. It's kind of funny

673
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 1: to say, but Brian Blaga is like the returning vet,

674
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 1: even though this is only his second year at the Chargers,

675
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 1: but he has the familiarity with Corey Lindsley obviously going

676
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 1: back to Green Bay, he's been a great resource from

677
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 1: what I've heard with Rashawn Slater. So but to your point,

678
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 1: getting that unit working together in week one for really

679
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 1: the first time is going to be a task and

680
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 1: going to be interesting. And then you look at the

681
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 1: back end of the secondary. You know, you have Derwin

682
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 1: who's coming back, which is just phenomenal and fantastic. And

683
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 1: we've heard all training camp along just the acumen that

684
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 1: he has, which we knew, but you know now he's

685
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 1: taken on more of a role and more of a

686
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 1: responsibility in this Brandon Staley defense calling the plays. And

687
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 1: then you have someone like Chris Harris. We talked today

688
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 1: again about having to play some safety, be back there

689
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 1: and sort of just be the kind of catch all

690
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 1: guy to help other guys get in positions and get

691
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 1: in places. And so I think that's one thing though,

692
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 1: that as young as they are, there are veterans at

693
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 1: certain positions that can kind of help some of those

694
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 1: younger guys along the way. That's right, And you know,

695
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 1: from a fantasy perspective, I just talked to Marcus Grant

696
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 1: about this Chargers offense, and Joe Lombardi obviously comes over.

697
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 1: There's going to be some New Orleans influences. But Austin

698
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 1: Eckler is a guy that is just He's so intriguing

699
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 1: to me because he missed a stretch of last year

700
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,960
Speaker 1: and we saw what Alvin Cabara was able to do

701
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 1: in that offense. We know what Keenan has done. We've

702
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 1: heard Joe Lobardi talk about Mike Williams in playing that

703
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,359
Speaker 1: X receiver in the numbers that he could potentially put

704
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 1: up offensively if we dive just a little bit deeper

705
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 1: into this Haley with Justin, we've heard coach Daley talk

706
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 1: about how they want to make this offense for Justin,

707
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:29,839
Speaker 1: not he has to conform to it. I can't wait

708
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 1: to see what that looks like come September twelve. Yeah,

709
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 1: I'm totally with you on that. I think you know

710
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 1: it's so funny reading Mina Kimes's article that she wrote,

711
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 1: her feature that she had on Justin Herbert and if

712
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:44,360
Speaker 1: you haven't read it, for anyone listening like go toastand

713
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 1: dot com, please read it. It was very interesting and

714
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:50,360
Speaker 1: enlightening and when she just talked with him about again

715
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,280
Speaker 1: that Week two game that started against Kansas City finding

716
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 1: out seconds before kick off. Look, we've run it through

717
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:58,360
Speaker 1: a million times, but it still is just so crazy

718
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 1: when you stop and think about that moment and how

719
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 1: he really just took the reins and never looked back

720
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,879
Speaker 1: and set records and one offensive Rookie of the Year.

721
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 1: And so I think, you know, that's part of it.

722
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 1: I think sometimes you've seen other teams do that, Like

723
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 1: you look at Buffalo, You've seen them sort of conform

724
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:16,799
Speaker 1: to Josh Allen and what he does best. And I

725
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:18,799
Speaker 1: think it's really great that you're going to see that

726
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 1: out here now and and really what it is that

727
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 1: he can do and with those pieces around him. We

728
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 1: know his rapport with Keenan, we know Mike getting involved,

729
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 1: but like you said, Austin Eckler, what Austin's role is

730
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 1: going to be in all of this, who's going to

731
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:32,720
Speaker 1: be behind him is sort of the change of pace back.

732
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 1: I just think it's it's really exciting right now to

733
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:38,880
Speaker 1: kind of see it all, like you said, in camp,

734
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 1: just kind of the little inner working sort of come together.

735
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 1: But really now we're just limited to twenty minutes out

736
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 1: there practice they're stretching, they're activating their phone rolling, they're yeah,

737
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 1: doing some individual work. But we're going to be just

738
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 1: as surprised as everyone else in Washington for that Week

739
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:58,439
Speaker 1: one game, which is going to be again to your point,

740
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,400
Speaker 1: just a really really good times, a big test against

741
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:04,759
Speaker 1: a solid defense. But I just think there's so much

742
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:08,439
Speaker 1: optimism now, like you mentioned, for everyone around the league.

743
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:10,399
Speaker 1: But it is fun to kind of have that new

744
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 1: era just sort of unfolding and you can feel it

745
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 1: and you get that vibe. Helly, you said it best.

746
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 1: It never stops. It's an all year round situation here

747
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:24,799
Speaker 1: in the NFL. But the podcast schedule and the way

748
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 1: it shakes out, it's been a lot of what could

749
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:32,360
Speaker 1: happen around the draft to combine free agency. Next week

750
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,839
Speaker 1: we ramp up on the Chargers podcast network and we're

751
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 1: talking just straight ball during the twenty twenty one season,

752
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:44,839
Speaker 1: and Playmakers is back for season three. I know you're

753
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 1: excited to get this thing rolling again. Yeah, I'm really

754
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 1: excited we are back for season three. I know we

755
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 1: kind of have a little bit of a different cadence

756
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 1: where we take some time off. I like to honor

757
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 1: Women's History Month in March, it's some special guests, and

758
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,320
Speaker 1: then we come right back when the season unfold. So

759
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:02,800
Speaker 1: Week ones as is going to be the incomparable Shannon Farren.

760
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 1: I know, someone you and I just love and adore,

761
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 1: and she's great at what she does. But she's she's

762
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:11,359
Speaker 1: a great I think tone setter too in terms of

763
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:13,840
Speaker 1: kicking off the season, and I think she's going to

764
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 1: bring a really interesting perspective, not only just on kind

765
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:18,839
Speaker 1: of what's happening with the Chargers and what she saw

766
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:22,240
Speaker 1: during the preseason, but she had a really interesting twenty

767
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:24,879
Speaker 1: twenty in terms of how her role was affected by

768
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,359
Speaker 1: COVID and now she's going to be back on the

769
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 1: literal sidelines as that whole what was it called Operation

770
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,839
Speaker 1: Zone Mode is a thing of the past. Is now

771
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:37,320
Speaker 1: we're we're still in COVID, but we're hopefully the mote

772
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 1: is forever gone, right, forever gone, not gone wood with

773
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 1: that one. So I think just having her sort of

774
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:46,360
Speaker 1: really kind of breakdown a little bit just how different

775
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:48,359
Speaker 1: a year like twenty twenty was for her and her

776
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 1: role and then getting into this Chargers team and like

777
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 1: I said, sort of what she saw throughout the preseason

778
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 1: for those three games is going to be great. I

779
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 1: think throughout the year, I'm you know, as you are

780
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 1: talking with different network trying to get different guests booked,

781
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 1: and I think for what people can expect from playmakers,

782
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 1: I think it's going to be a mix. You're gonna

783
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 1: see some familiar faces like Shannon, some friends of the

784
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 1: show as we'll call them, but also some new faces,

785
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 1: some new amazing women throughout the industry that we're going

786
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 1: to highlight. And one of the cool things that I'm

787
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:18,959
Speaker 1: also working on with the NFL is trying to get

788
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 1: as maybe as the year winds down, someone from the

789
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 1: league to talk about Super Bowl fifty six, which, look,

790
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 1: we hope the Chargers are in it, but it's in

791
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 1: our backyard. It's in Los Angeles this year, are going

792
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 1: to be at so FI Stadium, and so to be

793
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 1: able to have someone on to kind of talk about

794
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:37,320
Speaker 1: what to expect. Hopefully we should know the halftime performer

795
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 1: by then, but you know, kind of brought in the

796
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 1: horizons a little bit, talk about some of the really

797
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:43,400
Speaker 1: great things that are also going on at the broader

798
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 1: NFL level as well. Well. It's a must listen, and

799
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 1: I know you got some big time guests that I'm

800
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:51,880
Speaker 1: not going to name yet, but you just have to

801
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 1: find out on Wednesdays. Yeah, we'll have to find out.

802
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 1: We're in the process of booking and I think I

803
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:00,239
Speaker 1: have week two and week three nailed, but I don't

804
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 1: want to give it away quite yet, just in case

805
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 1: there's a little bit of a scheduling staff. Absolutely. And

806
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,919
Speaker 1: then also, hey, we're bringing back the Final Drive on

807
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 1: Monday mornings, and I think what's cool about this is

808
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 1: we're gonna try to get on a player or beat

809
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 1: writer or somebody to really kind of recap the game

810
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 1: after having a little bit of time to process everything

811
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 1: that happens, whether it's the press conferences out of the

812
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 1: locker room, and just kind of a Monday morning quarterback,

813
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 1: if you will. But we're gonna be bringing that to

814
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:35,879
Speaker 1: y'all Monday mornings, Hailey. I'm looking forward to that as well. Yeah,

815
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 1: with our Microsoft surfaces will be that's right, putting those

816
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:42,840
Speaker 1: back up here somewhere, making them visible. But yeah, I

817
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:45,400
Speaker 1: think anytime you can kind of break down rehash, hopefully

818
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 1: we'll have some wins, some awesome wins to talk about.

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00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 1: That'll be fantastic if those happen. But like I think

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00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 1: you said, I think adding a voice. I remember when

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00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:56,799
Speaker 1: we would kind of do a postgame pod a couple

822
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 1: of years ago, having you know, Eric Williams, who was

823
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:01,799
Speaker 1: with us at the time for ESPN, just another voice

824
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:04,360
Speaker 1: to kind of bring a perspective, different perspective. We're a player,

825
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 1: will be awesome. And man again, we're rolling week one,

826
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 1: rolling half. We got Final Drive Mondays, we got Playmakers Wednesdays.

827
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Speaker 1: We have Chargers weekly and puro Chargers in that Thursday

828
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 1: to Friday time frame as well. So Francisco Pitto, agent

829
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 1: Garcia Marquez. Love those guys, man, they are They just

830
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 1: bring such great positive energy to this organization. And I'm

831
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:35,800
Speaker 1: really excited for them kicking off puro Chargers in season

832
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:39,319
Speaker 1: two and Haley. It all starts next week. I'm looking

833
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 1: forward to seeing Shannon on the pod and getting this

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00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 1: thing going. Yep, we're gonna get it going. We're really excited.

835
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Speaker 1: It all starts Monday, might be Labor Day, not for

836
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 1: US game week, Monday games day, no days off, first

837
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:57,359
Speaker 1: day of prep for a for Washington apparently, and yeah,

838
00:40:57,520 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 1: really excited about that. Also, really quick note about Frience

839
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:02,319
Speaker 1: that's going to Adrian loved having those guys at camp,

840
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 1: Man when you talked about vibe and energy like every

841
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 1: single day they were out there, and I think the

842
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 1: fans when they would kind of intermix and the bleachers

843
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 1: and do stuff with them, they loved them too. So

844
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:14,840
Speaker 1: they're just they're awesome. If you're listening to this, chances

845
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 1: are you were in those bleachers, and chances are you

846
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 1: probably talked to a Fritz is going sub point during camp.

847
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 1: So love having those guys on board. Excited for playmakers, Haley,

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00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 1: We're gonna sign off until next week. That's gonna do

849
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 1: it for us. A big next to Haley ol Wood

850
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:35,240
Speaker 1: and Marcus Grant for joining me. Be sure to download

851
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 1: and subscribe to the Chargers podcast That Work Grave. You

852
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:42,360
Speaker 1: listen to podcast, rate and review charges weekly on video

853
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:46,399
Speaker 1: on our YouTube channel every Thursday, also on Chargers dot Com.

854
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Speaker 1: Have a great weekend. Week One starts next week. I'm

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Speaker 1: Chris Harry sept