WEBVTT - Selects: Nirvana: Not The Band 0:00:00.680 --> 0:00:05.200 Hi, everybody, Charles W. Chuck Bryant here, Jen Xer. So 0:00:05.320 --> 0:00:08.039 this is a pick from our past about Nirvana, because 0:00:08.160 --> 0:00:11.280 what band is more gen X than Nirvana? But wait 0:00:11.320 --> 0:00:14.120 a minute, it's not about the band. That's why it's 0:00:14.120 --> 0:00:18.479 called Nirvana colon, not the band. It's about Nirvana the 0:00:18.640 --> 0:00:23.800 experience again from August twenty seventh, twenty fifteen. Check it out. 0:00:24.000 --> 0:00:26.239 And this reminds me that one day we should probably 0:00:26.280 --> 0:00:28.600 do one on Nirvana the band, because they were great. 0:00:32.840 --> 0:00:40.640 Welcome to Stuff you Should Know a production of iHeartRadio. 0:00:42.240 --> 0:00:44.880 Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark, There's 0:00:45.000 --> 0:00:48.600 Charles W. Chuck Bryant, Jerry's over there. So this is 0:00:48.600 --> 0:00:49.360 the stuff you should know. 0:00:50.159 --> 0:00:56.200 Here we are now setcher in enlighten Buddha mode. 0:00:56.720 --> 0:00:57.600 Yes, I like that. 0:00:57.600 --> 0:00:58.560 I don't like that, Josh. 0:00:58.720 --> 0:01:02.400 But I did include an Nirvana reference in there when 0:01:02.400 --> 0:01:03.480 I said here we are now? 0:01:03.880 --> 0:01:05.560 Oh did not catch that? 0:01:05.880 --> 0:01:06.440 I noticed? 0:01:06.800 --> 0:01:08.720 Very nice, very subtle. 0:01:08.920 --> 0:01:11.000 I slid that one in there. Yeah. 0:01:11.240 --> 0:01:12.360 Yeah, how you doing? 0:01:12.440 --> 0:01:13.440 Are you feeling centered? 0:01:13.959 --> 0:01:16.760 Uh? No, I'm all whack a do. 0:01:17.400 --> 0:01:18.920 Your chakras are all over the place. 0:01:19.000 --> 0:01:22.840 My chakras are all over the place. So much so 0:01:22.959 --> 0:01:25.200 that I couldn't think of anything solid did was repeat you. 0:01:25.360 --> 0:01:27.800 Well, you know, man, I have to say, while we 0:01:27.800 --> 0:01:30.800 were researching this, I was like, this is some beautiful stuff. 0:01:31.600 --> 0:01:32.520 It's very appealing. 0:01:32.680 --> 0:01:36.240 Yeah, actually it was. It's neat stuff. Yeah, like I was. 0:01:36.360 --> 0:01:41.319 I became calm in researching this, researching Nirvana. 0:01:42.080 --> 0:01:45.360 Yeah, that's a good thing. Yeah, I think this. You 0:01:45.360 --> 0:01:48.520 can tie this in. We have a couple of related episodes, 0:01:48.800 --> 0:01:53.200 and we might as well just call this the Enlightenment Suite. 0:01:53.240 --> 0:01:53.640 How about that? 0:01:53.680 --> 0:01:53.920 Sure? 0:01:53.960 --> 0:01:58.040 I'd like that Karma from July twenty eleven, yep, and 0:01:58.160 --> 0:02:04.640 Reincarnation from July twenty two and Burning Man the Angriest 0:02:04.640 --> 0:02:09.040 People in your uh yeah. And you know, our our 0:02:09.240 --> 0:02:12.760 buddy in New York, Rachel Grundy, is a Buddhist. Oh 0:02:12.840 --> 0:02:14.600 yeah yeah, and she's I've talked to her about it. 0:02:14.600 --> 0:02:16.480 So because I was like, you know, Grundy, I've meditated 0:02:16.480 --> 0:02:18.960 someone and it really appeals to me. And like a 0:02:18.960 --> 0:02:21.919 true Buddhist, She's like, it's great, man, here, I'll send 0:02:21.960 --> 0:02:23.880 you some stuff, no press. 0:02:24.840 --> 0:02:26.720 You know, I'll send you some pamphlets. 0:02:26.800 --> 0:02:28.720 Yeah. That's basically what she did. She wasn't like, you know, 0:02:28.800 --> 0:02:30.560 you should look at this. You know, it's a little 0:02:30.639 --> 0:02:33.480 uh less overbearing than other religions I found. 0:02:33.800 --> 0:02:36.080 I gotcha, you know what I mean. Now, Rachel Grundy 0:02:36.120 --> 0:02:39.959 does the literary pub crawl, right? Does she still do that? 0:02:40.160 --> 0:02:41.400 I don't know she still does that? 0:02:41.480 --> 0:02:42.000 She used to? 0:02:42.240 --> 0:02:44.880 But we can plug her band Coyote love. How about that? 0:02:44.919 --> 0:02:46.840 There you go, and she just adopted a dog. 0:02:46.919 --> 0:02:52.000 So congratulations, congratulations to everybody. That's the Buddhist way. 0:02:52.240 --> 0:02:56.519 That is so nirvana. I thought was the perfect way 0:02:56.520 --> 0:03:00.880 to cap off karma and reincarnation. Yeah, is the third part, 0:03:00.880 --> 0:03:02.600 and maybe we should do meditation, Maybe we should make 0:03:02.600 --> 0:03:03.200 it a four parter. 0:03:04.040 --> 0:03:06.120 Yeah, that could probably be interesting. I'm sure there's a 0:03:06.120 --> 0:03:09.040 lot of studies about the physiological effects of it and 0:03:09.080 --> 0:03:09.400 all that. 0:03:09.600 --> 0:03:10.320 Yeah, let's do it. 0:03:10.400 --> 0:03:13.160 Okay, all right, all right, that's it agreed upon. Then, 0:03:13.520 --> 0:03:16.080 and then the the what'd you call it? The what suite? 0:03:16.639 --> 0:03:16.760 Uh? 0:03:17.360 --> 0:03:20.359 The Enlightenment Suite, the Enlightenment Suite, not to be confused 0:03:20.360 --> 0:03:23.079 with the Transcendentalists. 0:03:21.960 --> 0:03:24.480 Or the Enlightenment episode, right man. 0:03:24.360 --> 0:03:28.240 Which it doesn't factor into this at all. No, Okay, 0:03:28.360 --> 0:03:32.520 So Chuck, you're talking nirvana. Yes, I you have like 0:03:32.560 --> 0:03:34.520 a conception of it. I have a conception of it, 0:03:34.560 --> 0:03:37.480 but in researching one of the things, and I also 0:03:37.560 --> 0:03:42.960 knew that Buddhists and Hindus share a lot of cosmology. 0:03:43.280 --> 0:03:45.040 Oh, I thought you were gonna say they hate each other. 0:03:46.120 --> 0:03:47.840 No, I don't get that impression. 0:03:47.880 --> 0:03:48.560 No, of course not. 0:03:49.080 --> 0:03:50.080 But they they are. 0:03:50.520 --> 0:03:54.400 Buddhism is an offshoot of Hinduism. 0:03:54.560 --> 0:03:57.960 Yeah, it's a spinoff. It's the Aftermatch. It is of religions. 0:03:58.040 --> 0:04:00.840 It's the Joni Loves Chachi of religions. 0:04:00.920 --> 0:04:01.320 That's right. 0:04:01.440 --> 0:04:02.800 What else, Maud? 0:04:03.840 --> 0:04:06.040 What was that? An offshoot of Mary Tyler Moore? Mary 0:04:06.080 --> 0:04:06.520 Tyler Moore? 0:04:06.600 --> 0:04:11.760 Right, it's the Jefferson's Yeah for march Archie Bunker, Yeah, 0:04:11.880 --> 0:04:13.920 or all family. Absolutely. 0:04:14.880 --> 0:04:16.960 I could do this for at least thirty straight minutes. 0:04:17.160 --> 0:04:19.960 Yeah, we should do an episode on spinoffs. 0:04:19.520 --> 0:04:21.680 Where we just say spin off names, yeah. 0:04:21.440 --> 0:04:23.760 And just hold thumbs up or down, and but we 0:04:23.800 --> 0:04:25.480 don't say people just guess. 0:04:25.960 --> 0:04:27.600 Right, what are we doing right now? 0:04:27.720 --> 0:04:28.120 Yeah? 0:04:28.200 --> 0:04:31.520 It's the Threes Company, spin off of Hogan's Heroes. 0:04:34.279 --> 0:04:34.760 That's good. 0:04:35.160 --> 0:04:35.920 Okay, we're done. 0:04:36.040 --> 0:04:36.680 Yeah, We're done. 0:04:36.760 --> 0:04:37.080 Okay. 0:04:38.000 --> 0:04:39.880 I did not realize that I guess is what I'm saying. 0:04:39.920 --> 0:04:41.800 I knew that they were related. I didn't realize that 0:04:41.839 --> 0:04:44.240 it was like a direct offshoot where basically I don't 0:04:44.240 --> 0:04:48.000 think I knew either the Buddha whose name whose original 0:04:48.080 --> 0:04:50.360 name was Siddartha Guatama. 0:04:51.160 --> 0:04:54.760 Did you know that actually Siddartha. Okay, so the h 0:04:54.880 --> 0:04:56.440 is silent Galatama. 0:04:57.360 --> 0:04:57.680 Nice. 0:04:57.920 --> 0:05:01.320 Yes, I actually looked at pronunciations or listen to them 0:05:01.360 --> 0:05:02.680 for this episode for once. 0:05:03.080 --> 0:05:04.080 I'm proud of you. 0:05:04.240 --> 0:05:06.560 Yeah, I'm also a little ashamed because you did that 0:05:06.640 --> 0:05:07.279 and I didn't. 0:05:07.440 --> 0:05:08.400 That was all for Grundy. 0:05:08.480 --> 0:05:09.000 I was going. 0:05:09.080 --> 0:05:13.200 I was going with the with the original status quo. Okay, 0:05:13.200 --> 0:05:16.400 it's just mangling words of foreign origin. 0:05:16.600 --> 0:05:19.120 Well, I'm trying to mix things up here fifteen years in. 0:05:19.680 --> 0:05:21.880 And scientific words too, not just foreign ones. 0:05:21.960 --> 0:05:25.560 Right. So you were talking about Saddharta Kalatama. 0:05:25.839 --> 0:05:30.120 Right, He was born into as a Hindu, a Hindu family, sure, 0:05:30.400 --> 0:05:33.120 and decided like, yeah, I'm not too hip on Hindu. 0:05:33.160 --> 0:05:37.000 I think there's other ways to go. And there's Buddhism. 0:05:38.120 --> 0:05:39.479 Yeah, that's the quick version. 0:05:39.760 --> 0:05:41.880 YadA, YadA, YadA, there's Buddhism. 0:05:42.279 --> 0:05:45.640 Yeah. This was fifth century BC and Asia, of course, 0:05:46.320 --> 0:05:50.200 and like you said, he would later become the Buddha, 0:05:50.360 --> 0:05:53.120 which is not to be confused with Buddha. 0:05:54.080 --> 0:05:57.320 A Buddha exactly which you want to be a Buddha, 0:05:57.480 --> 0:06:00.120 Go do it, Chuck, you can do it. Well, you 0:06:00.120 --> 0:06:04.279 couldn't be the Buddha, right, because that's Saddharta's right. 0:06:04.520 --> 0:06:07.040 Yeah, but you could be a Buddha. 0:06:08.279 --> 0:06:13.240 I could be a layman's version, I believe, right, okay, 0:06:13.440 --> 0:06:17.680 because like only monks generally achieve the state of a Buddha. 0:06:17.760 --> 0:06:22.039 So in researching this, if you wanted to, you could 0:06:22.120 --> 0:06:24.720 be like Sinar a life, I'm going to become a 0:06:24.760 --> 0:06:30.120 Buddhist monk and conceivably achieve nirvana. Yes, in this lifetime 0:06:30.200 --> 0:06:33.280 you could, sure, because you're a human being. You're incarnated 0:06:33.320 --> 0:06:36.039 as a human being into this moral coil, and if 0:06:36.040 --> 0:06:38.599 you wanted to, you could go do it. But in 0:06:38.680 --> 0:06:42.880 researching this, yes, apparently it's typically left to the Buddhist 0:06:42.960 --> 0:06:45.200 monks because they're the ones who are like, who have 0:06:45.320 --> 0:06:47.160 the time Sinar life. 0:06:46.920 --> 0:06:48.839 Yeah, because you got to drop out sort. 0:06:48.720 --> 0:06:51.160 Of in a lot of ways, not entirely, I mean, 0:06:51.160 --> 0:06:54.960 Buddhist monks like still filter amongst the masses and all that, sure, 0:06:55.040 --> 0:06:58.679 but for the most part they're focusing a lot more 0:06:58.760 --> 0:07:01.720 on achieving nirvana than the average day to day person does, 0:07:01.920 --> 0:07:03.599 even like a day to day Buddhist or something. 0:07:03.680 --> 0:07:05.960 Yeah, it's not a part time job. You're not like 0:07:06.720 --> 0:07:08.760 sitting around on Netflix, like should I watch Orange is 0:07:08.760 --> 0:07:11.200 a New Black? Or should I meditate for eight hours? Right? 0:07:11.320 --> 0:07:11.600 You know? 0:07:12.080 --> 0:07:12.840 Can I do both? 0:07:13.760 --> 0:07:14.120 You can? 0:07:14.280 --> 0:07:16.040 By the way, it's called zoning out. 0:07:16.960 --> 0:07:21.440 So let's talk a little bit more about said Arta's journey. 0:07:22.240 --> 0:07:25.720 This is five sixty three BC in modern day Nepal 0:07:26.040 --> 0:07:27.640 or what would be modern day Nepal. 0:07:28.120 --> 0:07:30.760 Does the wayback machine go there? Yeah, you want to go, 0:07:31.080 --> 0:07:33.600 let's go? All right, sounds like a lovely time. 0:07:38.360 --> 0:07:41.800 All right, here we are. It's cold, It's lovely. 0:07:42.120 --> 0:07:43.920 You know, it's funny. I didn't take it as cold. 0:07:43.960 --> 0:07:45.920 I thought we would be going back to like maybe spring, 0:07:46.360 --> 0:07:48.600 But yeah, it's really cold here right now. 0:07:48.720 --> 0:07:51.640 Yeah, it's a good thing you're wearing that ox hide. 0:07:52.040 --> 0:07:54.160 Yeah, you know, lined with Shirpa. 0:07:55.400 --> 0:07:58.160 So I see said Arta over there, and he is 0:07:58.360 --> 0:08:00.400 a rich dude, and he is a very shelter dude. 0:08:01.000 --> 0:08:06.560 And despite all these riches and this lifestyle, he's very pampered. 0:08:06.920 --> 0:08:09.320 He's kind of I can see it in his eyes. 0:08:09.400 --> 0:08:10.440 He is dissatisfied. 0:08:10.480 --> 0:08:11.280 He is dissatisfied. 0:08:11.320 --> 0:08:14.480 He's born into a ruling class, very powerful, like you said, 0:08:14.560 --> 0:08:17.160 rich family, Yeah, and he's part of the idle rich, 0:08:17.600 --> 0:08:20.920 but he's part of the thinking, idle rich. So he 0:08:21.040 --> 0:08:24.000 started to question his place in life, which is basically 0:08:24.000 --> 0:08:24.720 what you said, right. 0:08:25.240 --> 0:08:27.560 Yeah, he starts to mul this over and like maybe 0:08:27.560 --> 0:08:31.520 there's more. It's a very long story, and we could 0:08:31.560 --> 0:08:33.120 spend hours talking about this, but. 0:08:33.240 --> 0:08:34.079 I'm sure people do. 0:08:34.240 --> 0:08:36.559 I've seen a yeah, because like you can't do it 0:08:36.600 --> 0:08:40.120 part time, like I said, right, But I'm looking at him, 0:08:40.160 --> 0:08:44.559 and basically I can tell that his disillusionment has has 0:08:44.559 --> 0:08:48.120 reached its apex, and it is culminated by him looking 0:08:48.120 --> 0:08:51.400 out the window one day and he sees three things 0:08:51.440 --> 0:08:54.760 from his little palace window. He sees a decrepit old man, 0:08:55.559 --> 0:08:58.920 he sees a disease man, and then he sees a corpse. 0:09:00.200 --> 0:09:00.720 And he's done. 0:09:00.840 --> 0:09:03.000 It's like the progression, I guess. 0:09:02.720 --> 0:09:06.160 So, and he's like, you know what, I'm done with 0:09:06.200 --> 0:09:09.079 this life. Can't take it anymore. Even though I have 0:09:09.679 --> 0:09:14.840 my arranged wife, my cousin whom I married, I was 0:09:14.880 --> 0:09:17.640 forced to marry. I have a beautiful son whom I love. 0:09:18.200 --> 0:09:19.920 I'm going to leave them. I'm going to leave all 0:09:19.920 --> 0:09:23.360 my possessions, and I'm going to go on a quest, 0:09:23.760 --> 0:09:27.440 a vision quest, if you will, to understand the true 0:09:27.559 --> 0:09:31.720 nature of life. And here I go right and back 0:09:31.800 --> 0:09:33.559 we are to the present day. Sir, you can hang 0:09:33.600 --> 0:09:36.400 your ox hide and that Sherpa on the coat rack. 0:09:36.640 --> 0:09:38.160 Wait, well, there's more to this story. 0:09:38.440 --> 0:09:39.240 Do we have to go back? 0:09:39.400 --> 0:09:41.840 Yeah, we gotta go back. I gotta go on, short pants, 0:09:42.320 --> 0:09:43.319 put your pants back on. 0:09:43.400 --> 0:09:50.480 Right, so chuck. 0:09:51.000 --> 0:09:55.800 Here we are back again, and Sidharta is He's gone 0:09:55.800 --> 0:09:59.840 from very rich, powerful family. He's decided to go on 0:09:59.880 --> 0:10:03.160 this vision quest. He thinks, well, I mean, if I 0:10:03.320 --> 0:10:06.880 was very dissatisfied, and I think it's kind of wrong 0:10:06.960 --> 0:10:09.920 to be as grossly rich as I was the family 0:10:09.960 --> 0:10:13.320 I was born into, I'll just go the exact opposite route, 0:10:13.320 --> 0:10:19.040 and I'll become a hermit, a completely poverty stricken hermit 0:10:19.480 --> 0:10:24.120 who has not even a pot to pee in, not 0:10:24.200 --> 0:10:27.920 even that right. And he figures out that as he's 0:10:28.679 --> 0:10:31.480 starving to death, that it's not leading to any kind 0:10:31.520 --> 0:10:35.560 of enlightenment. He's actually growing increasingly uncomfortable. It's getting harder 0:10:35.559 --> 0:10:38.160 and harder for him to pay attention to enlightenment because 0:10:38.440 --> 0:10:43.560 say he's hungry and hungrier. Sure, and he realizes, wait 0:10:43.600 --> 0:10:46.120 a minute, maybe this isn't the. 0:10:45.760 --> 0:10:49.040 Right way to go. Maybe polar extremes are a little 0:10:49.040 --> 0:10:49.720 too extreme. 0:10:49.960 --> 0:10:52.320 Yeah, what if I die without achieving my goal? That 0:10:52.360 --> 0:10:53.920 would just have been a wasted life. 0:10:54.040 --> 0:10:56.640 Yeah, I would have been poverty stricken and great, but 0:10:56.800 --> 0:10:59.880 that doesn't lead to enlightenment clearly. So here comes a 0:11:00.080 --> 0:11:02.880 stranger who's offering me a meal. I'm gonna take it. 0:11:03.520 --> 0:11:06.200 I'm gonna be poverty stricken no longer. And maybe I 0:11:06.200 --> 0:11:08.120 don't need to be rich, but I also don't need 0:11:08.160 --> 0:11:09.080 to be poverty stricken. 0:11:09.240 --> 0:11:12.719 I need to take this middle road to enlightenment. 0:11:12.880 --> 0:11:16.360 So I'm gonna kill that stranger, take all the food. 0:11:16.800 --> 0:11:18.160 No, with a pigeon hammer. 0:11:18.200 --> 0:11:20.480 Oh wait, that's not the middle road. That's far from 0:11:20.520 --> 0:11:21.120 the middle road. 0:11:21.200 --> 0:11:22.680 That's kind of extreme as well. 0:11:23.000 --> 0:11:23.480 I kid. 0:11:23.720 --> 0:11:26.640 So he takes a meal from a stranger, he figures 0:11:26.679 --> 0:11:29.000 out I think finally that like, oh okay, this is 0:11:29.000 --> 0:11:30.920 the way to do it, goes and sits under a 0:11:30.960 --> 0:11:33.640 tree and achieved nirvana. 0:11:33.880 --> 0:11:35.599 He achieved omniscience. 0:11:35.720 --> 0:11:38.199 Yeah, there were three stages of that he saw his 0:11:38.360 --> 0:11:43.000 past lives, all of them. He saw the past lives 0:11:43.040 --> 0:11:46.280 of all others, and he's like, I'm really starting to 0:11:46.320 --> 0:11:49.560 catch on to things here. Things are revealing themselves. And 0:11:49.840 --> 0:11:52.959 finally he identified the four Noble truths, which we'll talk 0:11:53.000 --> 0:11:55.240 about in a bit, but those were the three stages 0:11:55.320 --> 0:11:57.720 under the tree. And in the end of it, he said, 0:11:57.720 --> 0:11:59.920 you know, I gained a perfect understanding of the laws 0:12:00.040 --> 0:12:05.079 governing the cycle of birth and death. Like it's nirvana. 0:12:05.920 --> 0:12:10.880 Boom, it's nirvana, and nirvana we should probably say once 0:12:10.880 --> 0:12:12.560 he achieved nirvana. 0:12:12.160 --> 0:12:13.320 He didn't say it's nirvana. 0:12:14.120 --> 0:12:16.080 No, he couldn't say much. 0:12:16.120 --> 0:12:18.360 Actually, one of the things that I came across from 0:12:18.360 --> 0:12:21.800 research time and time again is that he very famously 0:12:22.160 --> 0:12:25.400 couldn't put it into words a description of what he 0:12:25.520 --> 0:12:28.280 experienced in this new state of enlightenment that he was 0:12:28.880 --> 0:12:29.520 vibing in. 0:12:29.720 --> 0:12:33.320 It's like Catulu kind of. It was the unnameable, you know. 0:12:33.559 --> 0:12:38.120 Yeah, But everybody trusted him anyway. They said, this guy 0:12:38.320 --> 0:12:41.319 knows where it's at. We're going to start following his teachings. 0:12:41.559 --> 0:12:45.240 Yeah. In Sanskrit, nirvana means to extinguish, so in this case, 0:12:45.240 --> 0:12:50.000 they're talking about extinguishing suffering and hatred and ignorance. 0:12:50.840 --> 0:12:53.439 No good, So we'll talk about the Buddha's. 0:12:55.120 --> 0:12:58.280 Path to enlightenment and his teachings that came out of 0:12:58.320 --> 0:13:00.720 this achievement of vana. 0:13:00.720 --> 0:13:22.920 Right after this and we're back. 0:13:24.080 --> 0:13:27.080 That's pretty funny put an ad in the middle of 0:13:27.080 --> 0:13:28.880 a Buddhism lesson. 0:13:29.480 --> 0:13:32.720 Well, we take all comers here, my friend. So, if 0:13:32.760 --> 0:13:36.439 you achieve nirvana, what you're doing is you are breaking 0:13:36.480 --> 0:13:40.520 that cycle. If you listen to our reincarnation podcast, the 0:13:40.520 --> 0:13:44.480 samsara is that cycle of reincarnation that you can be 0:13:45.640 --> 0:13:48.880 caught in or stuck in. I guess. And this is 0:13:48.880 --> 0:13:51.400 where karma, and again we have a great episode on karma. 0:13:52.200 --> 0:13:54.400 Karma comes into play because what you're doing is you're 0:13:54.440 --> 0:13:59.319 rewarded on your past actions in your current life and 0:14:00.200 --> 0:14:01.000 earlier lives. 0:14:01.840 --> 0:14:04.600 Right, Does that make sense? No, it makes sense? 0:14:04.679 --> 0:14:07.720 Yeah, sure so, And I love that this article says 0:14:07.760 --> 0:14:09.640 it's important to note that the law of karma isn't 0:14:09.679 --> 0:14:13.520 due to God's judgment yeah, over a person's behavior, and 0:14:13.559 --> 0:14:16.280 it's closer to Newton's law of motion. That makes more sense. 0:14:16.360 --> 0:14:19.840 Right, for every action, there's an equal and opposite reaction. Yeah, 0:14:19.880 --> 0:14:23.760 So when like you, you know, step on a snail, you're 0:14:23.840 --> 0:14:27.520 just like, man, didn't mean to do that. It's going 0:14:27.600 --> 0:14:29.920 to come back and bite me later on in another life. 0:14:30.240 --> 0:14:32.800 And you build up this karma or whatever. But when 0:14:32.840 --> 0:14:38.359 you reach nirvana, you stop accruing bag karma. 0:14:38.160 --> 0:14:39.360 That's right. You transcend it. 0:14:39.560 --> 0:14:40.119 Yeah. 0:14:40.240 --> 0:14:42.720 And when you transcend it, then all of a sudden, 0:14:42.720 --> 0:14:45.320 you can spend the rest of your life working off 0:14:45.720 --> 0:14:48.360 that karma debt that you have already accrued. 0:14:48.520 --> 0:14:50.240 Yeah, because that doesn't just go away. 0:14:50.280 --> 0:14:52.120 It's like paying down a credit card exactly. 0:14:52.440 --> 0:14:55.760 So, but it's like when you achieve nirvana, the credit 0:14:55.760 --> 0:14:58.600 cards cut up, so you're not adding to your account 0:14:58.600 --> 0:15:01.680 any longer. Yeah, but you still have some money that 0:15:01.720 --> 0:15:05.000 you owe and you're paying that off in this life 0:15:05.080 --> 0:15:09.040 or conceivably other lives following. But at some point your 0:15:09.200 --> 0:15:13.119 your golden ticket has been granted. You have achieved nirvana, 0:15:13.520 --> 0:15:13.920 that's right. 0:15:14.000 --> 0:15:16.440 And when that happens, you are you have escaped that 0:15:16.520 --> 0:15:21.560 smsara and you have achieved potty nirvana, and that is 0:15:22.720 --> 0:15:25.640 the final stage that you find in the afterlife. Right. 0:15:27.040 --> 0:15:29.720 And in the case of Saddharta, he was eighty years old, 0:15:29.720 --> 0:15:32.600 when he passed, and he died in a state of meditation, 0:15:32.760 --> 0:15:37.640 basically saying to his people around him, it's all good man, 0:15:38.440 --> 0:15:41.080 this is like, this is the goal. It was like 0:15:41.240 --> 0:15:45.160 a great way to pass, you know, yeah, like we 0:15:45.200 --> 0:15:46.400 should all pass that way. 0:15:46.760 --> 0:15:49.840 Sure, telling everybody it's all good. 0:15:50.120 --> 0:15:52.160 Yeah, pretty much like whatters style. 0:15:52.560 --> 0:15:56.120 So he's going all right, all right. 0:15:56.000 --> 0:15:58.240 Yeah, those were his last words, if I'm not mistaken. 0:15:59.000 --> 0:16:05.200 So when when one achieves nirvana and you escape the 0:16:05.240 --> 0:16:09.160 cycle of semsara, you eventually, when you die and you 0:16:09.320 --> 0:16:12.440 work off your karmic debt and you're no longer reincarnated, 0:16:12.800 --> 0:16:17.680 you become you basically travel to another dimension, another realm. 0:16:18.480 --> 0:16:22.800 It's just something different that basically exists outside of space time, 0:16:22.840 --> 0:16:28.840 as modern Buddhists would say, and you are kind of 0:16:28.920 --> 0:16:33.880 one with the universe. Just become a selfless part of 0:16:33.920 --> 0:16:34.560 the universe. 0:16:35.440 --> 0:16:36.520 That sounds beautiful to me. 0:16:37.040 --> 0:16:38.080 Sure, it's nice. 0:16:38.120 --> 0:16:41.080 So Pot of Nirvana Day or just Nirvana Day, is 0:16:41.280 --> 0:16:46.280 celebrated on February fifteenth in East Asia. Celebrations vary, Evidently, 0:16:46.280 --> 0:16:49.360 I looked it up. Apparently some people just meditate, some 0:16:49.400 --> 0:16:52.520 people are just reflective. A lot of times in monasteries 0:16:52.720 --> 0:16:57.840 food is prepared and shared. But that is February fifteenth. 0:16:57.480 --> 0:17:02.080 Okay, Nirvana day. Yeah, so, Chuck, if you become a. 0:17:04.080 --> 0:17:12.080 Buddhist monk and you achieve nirvana, and let's say you're 0:17:12.119 --> 0:17:15.120 not a Buddhist monk and you no, well, let's say 0:17:15.119 --> 0:17:15.400 you are. 0:17:15.600 --> 0:17:18.280 Okay, so you're a buddhistman that keep putting on these 0:17:18.280 --> 0:17:19.360 clothes and taking them off. 0:17:19.880 --> 0:17:21.040 You achieve nirvana. 0:17:21.840 --> 0:17:24.760 You become a Buddha, right, not again, not the Buddha, 0:17:24.760 --> 0:17:27.680 but a Buddha like you're which means an enlightened one. 0:17:27.760 --> 0:17:27.960 Right. 0:17:28.040 --> 0:17:28.359 Yes. 0:17:29.480 --> 0:17:34.000 And if you say I have got some time and 0:17:34.080 --> 0:17:37.080 money and I'm going to hire you a Buddha to 0:17:37.800 --> 0:17:41.200 lead me to nirvana, you're almost like a junior Buddha. 0:17:42.080 --> 0:17:44.959 There's a different word for him. They're called are hats. 0:17:46.080 --> 0:17:49.639 Yeah, are hit that's what I found. Are hit Yeah, okay, 0:17:50.720 --> 0:17:53.080 that's right. That's when you have a Buddha guide to 0:17:53.119 --> 0:17:56.199 guide you and you are not you're enlightened. You're just 0:17:56.240 --> 0:17:56.879 not omniscient. 0:17:57.680 --> 0:18:01.520 Yeah, not bad though, Yeah, big difference though. Not omniscient 0:18:01.720 --> 0:18:02.440 and omniscient. 0:18:02.560 --> 0:18:05.120 There's a pretty big difference between those two things, you know, right, 0:18:05.520 --> 0:18:11.400 So when the Buddha came back from his in like well, 0:18:11.920 --> 0:18:14.040 once he achieved his enlightened state, he started trying to 0:18:14.040 --> 0:18:16.800 tell people like, you can be like this too, and 0:18:16.840 --> 0:18:18.879 here's how you do it. He said that there are 0:18:19.000 --> 0:18:22.680 it's very simple. There are just four noble truths. It's 0:18:22.720 --> 0:18:25.280 all you need to know until you realize that the 0:18:25.280 --> 0:18:28.800 fourth noble truth mentions an eightfold path and then suddenly 0:18:28.960 --> 0:18:34.479 like it's exponentially more involved, but it's still fairly simple stuff. 0:18:34.720 --> 0:18:37.320 Yeah, he taught this for the last forty five years 0:18:37.320 --> 0:18:40.400 of his life. Number one is that life is suffering, 0:18:40.920 --> 0:18:42.760 and I think that was he was clued into that 0:18:42.800 --> 0:18:45.320 from his window that day. Yeah, it was the suffering 0:18:45.359 --> 0:18:48.240 that really made him go, like, man, right, this is life, 0:18:48.440 --> 0:18:50.520 that old guy, that dead body. 0:18:51.400 --> 0:18:53.400 If this is life, who needs enemies? 0:18:53.840 --> 0:18:58.480 Oh? Good? Point Number two suffering is caused by ignorance 0:18:58.520 --> 0:19:01.520 of the true nature of the universe. So ignorance is 0:19:01.520 --> 0:19:03.359 not bliss, ignorance is no good. 0:19:03.680 --> 0:19:06.600 No, And basically the true nature of the universes that 0:19:07.520 --> 0:19:13.920 we are made unhappy by wanting, by craving things, and 0:19:14.160 --> 0:19:18.400 that we can free ourselves from those things by overcoming them. 0:19:18.640 --> 0:19:21.120 That's right. That's number three. You can end that suffering. 0:19:22.640 --> 0:19:26.679 And then number four is if you attach yourselves and 0:19:26.720 --> 0:19:29.879 follow the four I'm sorry, the Noble eightfold Path, not 0:19:30.000 --> 0:19:33.119 the four right, then you're all set. You can overcome 0:19:33.119 --> 0:19:33.680 all that junk. 0:19:33.720 --> 0:19:36.120 It's like, just remember these four things and then these 0:19:36.119 --> 0:19:37.040 extra eight things. 0:19:37.920 --> 0:19:40.720 So the eight fold path, the noble eight fold Path 0:19:41.160 --> 0:19:44.480 are the ideals that guide you along the way, and 0:19:44.480 --> 0:19:46.840 they're broken down into three divisions. 0:19:47.119 --> 0:19:48.000 There's samas. 0:19:48.800 --> 0:19:49.920 The divisions are samas. 0:19:50.800 --> 0:19:55.840 Oh no, the the individual paths are called samas. 0:19:55.960 --> 0:20:00.000 Oh gotcha. Well, the first two are under the division 0:20:00.119 --> 0:20:03.320 of wisdom, right views, and right intention. 0:20:03.400 --> 0:20:06.640 And it's free if samas are are frequently translated into 0:20:06.760 --> 0:20:09.919 right here in the West in English. Sure, and it 0:20:09.960 --> 0:20:13.080 doesn't this article I read by this one guy said, like, 0:20:13.920 --> 0:20:16.600 that doesn't mean that the opposite of that is wrong, right, 0:20:16.680 --> 0:20:20.600 It's more right. It's more like right in this sense 0:20:20.680 --> 0:20:22.760 means complete, perfect, whole. 0:20:22.960 --> 0:20:23.160 Yeah. 0:20:23.200 --> 0:20:26.320 Yeah, so the opposite of that would be incomplete, imperfect, 0:20:26.920 --> 0:20:30.600