1 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:06,640 Speaker 1: The Giants Extra Point is brought to you by Citizens, 2 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 1: the official. 3 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 2: Bank of the New York Giants. 4 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 1: Citizens has made ready for Giants fans hack and sack, 5 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 1: Meridian Health, keep getting better, Peerless Boilers, the world's best 6 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 1: bill boilers, and by Moody's Decode Risk, Unlock Opportunity. Learn 7 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: more at Moody's dot com. Welcome the Giants extra Point. 8 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 1: The Giants fall to the New Orleans Saints and a 9 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:26,440 Speaker 1: barn Burner fourteen to eleven. They put together a drive 10 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 1: get the ball all the way down in to the 11 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 1: red zone of the New Orleans Saints, but a Graham 12 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: Gono thirty five year old field goal, a thirty five 13 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 1: yard field goal attempt on a fourth and fifteen with 14 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 1: eleven seconds to go is blocked by Brian Brazi on 15 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:44,559 Speaker 1: an unbelievable athletic play jumping over the center. And in 16 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:47,239 Speaker 1: a year Jonathan casie Us and Bob Papa where the 17 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 1: Giants have lost in a lot of different ways, this 18 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 1: is another one where they have an opportunity to send 19 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 1: the game into overtime with a gamed potential game tying 20 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: kick and it gets blocked. And it was another game 21 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 1: with the Ray of some self inflicted wounds, Bob. 22 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 2: That took the chance of a win away. 23 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 3: Offense, defense, special teams. 24 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 4: And you take a look at the special teams today, 25 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 4: and you had the Kubis penalty a body slam. Now, 26 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 4: whether you agree with it or not, it was called. 27 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 4: That's three points off the board in a game that 28 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:22,960 Speaker 4: you lost by three. You had the Smith Marsett fifty 29 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:26,039 Speaker 4: six yard punt return for a touchdown that was taken 30 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:29,839 Speaker 4: off the board because of a Stroman penalty. And listen, 31 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:34,119 Speaker 4: I think if Stroman doesn't hold a guy, the guy 32 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:36,319 Speaker 4: wasn't even a factor in the play. I mean it 33 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 4: was Smith Marsett was already about to be off and 34 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:42,759 Speaker 4: running in another direction. But it's a penalty that takes 35 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 4: a punt return off the board. And then at the 36 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 4: end of the game, you got to be better than 37 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 4: you just were. On the field goal snap, Hey, look, 38 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 4: it's a heck of a play by Brazi, but he 39 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 4: doesn't block field goals every week. 40 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 3: You know you can defend that, and the Giants weren't. 41 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 4: And you get a third five yard block field goal, 42 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 4: which cost you a chance to send the game to overtime. 43 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 5: And defensively, they held up all game. You know, they 44 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 5: they never let New Orleans really get in rhythm. We 45 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 5: talked a lot about Kamara before the game. He was, 46 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 5: I want to say, a non factor, but seventeen carried 47 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:18,360 Speaker 5: for forty four yards. You know, it didn't do anything really, 48 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 5: you know, and the Giants defense held up, you know, 49 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 5: allowing only fourteen points, putting themselves in position, you know, 50 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:26,359 Speaker 5: to win the game at the end of the game. 51 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 5: And you know, the Giants come up short again at home, 52 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:32,080 Speaker 5: and you know, the only team undefeat haven't won a 53 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 5: game at home this year, and it's another one that 54 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 5: they dropped right here in met Life. 55 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 1: Saints had under three hundred yards of offense in the game. 56 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 1: And you got to give you Lock some credit. He 57 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 1: got off to a rough start in this game. It 58 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 1: was a rough first half for Drew Lock. Jonathan can 59 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 1: see us. But he had a couple drives late in 60 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 1: this game, got the team in position to potentially tie 61 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:52,080 Speaker 1: the game. 62 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 2: Nice job persevering and sticking with it. 63 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 5: And his legs were a factor, just like they were 64 00:02:56,720 --> 00:03:00,040 Speaker 5: last week against the Cowboys. You know, he definitely you know, 65 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 5: ran at opportune times. You know, got those hard fourt 66 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:06,079 Speaker 5: yards those tough first downs a couple times when he 67 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 5: went lateral, but you know he did everything, you know 68 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 5: to give the Giants a chance to win the game, 69 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 5: you know, and Giants got down to the end, had 70 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:15,639 Speaker 5: a chance to tie it up, and you know, miss 71 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 5: another mishap, like you said, Bob on on special teams 72 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 5: and allowed Bracy to block the kick. And you know, 73 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 5: this is it's rough for the Giants, man, And I'm 74 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 5: empathetic for that locker room over there. I've been apart 75 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 5: of some rough season before, and I know they're they're 76 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 5: going through it right now. 77 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 1: That's a nice game breakdown, brought to you by our 78 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 1: local Ford stores. One Engine drives this team. For current offers, 79 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 1: visit Byford now dot com Forward official truck of the 80 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 1: Giants Quick time out. We'll come back here from Brian 81 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 1: Dable at the podium. That a whole lot more. As 82 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 1: you continue right here after the Giants fourteen to eleven. 83 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 6: Defeat, you are listening to Giants Extra Point on the 84 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 6: Bubbs Discount Furniture Wsan Giants Radio Network. 85 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 7: The thirty five yarder middle of the field in the hole, 86 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 7: pridor to stap it for eleven seconds to go to 87 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 7: tie the game at a fourteen staff is good kicked 88 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 7: out its way and. 89 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 8: It's partially blocked, partially. 90 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 2: Blocked, saying. 91 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 8: With eight seconds remaining, New Orleans blocks a thirty five 92 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:32,679 Speaker 8: yard field goal with eight seconds to go that would 93 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 8: have tied the. 94 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 1: Game, and Bob, you can that was the final field 95 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: goal block to end the game and get the Saints 96 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:42,479 Speaker 1: the victory. You can just hear Bob the disbelief in 97 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:44,599 Speaker 1: your voice. That's why now little chuckles in there's like, 98 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:46,559 Speaker 1: can you believe this is happening again? 99 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:51,159 Speaker 4: It's unbelievable. You know, you think about and it was like, 100 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 4: what else. 101 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 3: Could go wrong here? 102 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 2: And so you lose. 103 00:04:55,880 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 4: Your starting left guard, you lose your center. You're playing 104 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 4: with your backup tackles. You're playing with a backup quarterback. Oh, 105 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:06,480 Speaker 4: your backup defensive tackles. 106 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 3: Let me get there. 107 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 2: Sorry. 108 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:10,720 Speaker 3: You don't have your best defensive player. 109 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 4: You don't have another starter, you don't have a backup 110 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 4: who's now placed on injured reserve. You don't have two 111 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 4: of your corners, Drew Phillips, right, so you don't have 112 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:30,600 Speaker 4: Drew Phillips. You don't have banks flat and Flats active. 113 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 4: But he can't play and you battle the way the 114 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 4: Giants battled today, and you fought, and you extended the game, 115 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:41,919 Speaker 4: and you did everything, and now you're in chip shot 116 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:44,160 Speaker 4: field goal range and. 117 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 3: It gets blocked. 118 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:49,719 Speaker 4: Like I it was a chuckle of like unbelievable frustration 119 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:55,359 Speaker 4: that it's it's like you can't even make it up 120 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 4: at this point. 121 00:05:57,960 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 1: You know, we were here in twenty twenty two, right 122 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 1: when the team makes the playoffs, and that team, no 123 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 1: matter what happened, would figure out a way to win 124 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 1: these games. 125 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:06,840 Speaker 2: It is the exact opposite thing this year. 126 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 1: Jonathan can see whether and again Bob's point, all three 127 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:12,840 Speaker 1: phases today and it's been all three phases all year long. 128 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 1: One week it's the offense, one week is the defense 129 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:17,039 Speaker 1: of others, the special teams. Maybe it's all them in 130 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 1: one particular game. Have you been on a team like 131 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:23,279 Speaker 1: this where no matter what you do, you do some 132 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 1: good things, you're proud of your performance, maybe, but when 133 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 1: in the end it comes down to it, you do 134 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:29,720 Speaker 1: just enough to lose the game. 135 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 5: Not like this specifically, you know, and Bob said it, 136 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:36,479 Speaker 5: like you did everything all you're against everything's stacked up 137 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 5: against you going into today, you know, and as the 138 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 5: day progresses, you know, guys are going down, people are 139 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 5: getting hurt. But you know, when you look up and 140 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 5: you know the time is ticking off the clock, you're 141 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 5: in the game. You have a chance, you know, to 142 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 5: go for extra time and potentially win a game at home, 143 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 5: which the Giants haven't done, and then again you fall short, 144 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 5: you know. And that's why I keep going to me 145 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:59,479 Speaker 5: being empathetic because I've been a part of something like 146 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 5: this in terms of the record at this time of 147 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:04,919 Speaker 5: the year, and it's really tough. It's hard on the players, 148 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 5: it's hard on everybody, you know, and and it's it's tough, 149 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 5: you know, being here today, and we talked about it, 150 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 5: kind of joked a little bit about, you know, driving 151 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 5: in today, how I wasn't that many fans here, you know, 152 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 5: and the product that the Giants are putting out there, 153 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 5: because at the end of the day, it don't matter 154 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 5: what type of players you got, you know, who's coaching 155 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 5: the team or whatever. You have to win games. This 156 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 5: is a production business. And the Giants having won games 157 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 5: at home, and you know, having two wins this late 158 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 5: in the season is not good, and I know they're 159 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 5: feeling it and Uh, you know, it's a it's it's 160 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 5: not looking good. Next week is a tough opponent. 161 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 3: Forget about that part of it. 162 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 4: But you know, you think about there were guys that 163 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 4: were getting and playing significant roles today that never played 164 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 4: in an NFL game. 165 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 3: It's not even just like backups. 166 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 4: These are like complete new players never and they they 167 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 4: they acquitted themselves. I mean, most people on the outside 168 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 4: thought that Alvin Kamara was gonna run for at least 169 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 4: a hard and twenty yards today, right hits seventeen carries. 170 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 3: For forty four yards. 171 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 2: We had the over under at one ten in the 172 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 2: pregame all this went. 173 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 4: Over, he had five catches for thirty five yards. Carr 174 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 4: was twenty of thirty one for two nineteen with a touchdown. 175 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 4: And kudos to Trey Hawkins for getting the giants first 176 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 4: interception since Week one. And he played well when he 177 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 4: got the game, you know, before he got shaken up. 178 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 4: And then the offensive line, I mean, everybody fought so 179 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 4: hard and then you get a block thirty five yard 180 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 4: field goal. 181 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:35,079 Speaker 3: It's just. 182 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 4: You can't help but like laugh because it'll drive you 183 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:42,079 Speaker 4: absolutely crazy. 184 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 2: All right, let's go downstairs. 185 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:46,680 Speaker 1: Brian Dable is approaching the podium as press conference is 186 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:49,560 Speaker 1: brought to you by Hackensack and Britian Health Keep getting better. 187 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 1: Let's listen to Brian Dable after the Giants fourteen to 188 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:56,199 Speaker 1: eleven defeat to the New Orleans saintsyre MetLife Stadium. 189 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:59,719 Speaker 9: So disappointing game came down there to the. 190 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 10: End with the block, field goal jumped over, the guard, 191 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:06,679 Speaker 10: got the penalty, the other field goal that took three 192 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:11,839 Speaker 10: points away and uh punt return called back. Had too 193 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 10: many penalties obviously disappointing, disappointing outcome. I lot the guys 194 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 10: that played, a lot of the young guys did some 195 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:22,559 Speaker 10: good stuff. 196 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 3: They battled. 197 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 9: You know, it's a disappointing, disappointing outcome of the game. 198 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 9: It's a tough one. 199 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 11: What did you see on the block? 200 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 5: I mean. 201 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 12: The block jumped over Kubis. 202 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 10: It looked like, you know, he finished the play before 203 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:42,200 Speaker 10: got called on it. And uh, you know, we changed 204 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 10: up a little bit of our technique based on how 205 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:45,840 Speaker 10: they were some of the stuff they were doing with 206 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 10: their rushes, you know, knocking the guy's arm out and 207 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:50,679 Speaker 10: doing things like that. So you know, Gobi I thought, 208 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 10: did a good job, you know, trying to make sure 209 00:09:54,480 --> 00:10:00,200 Speaker 10: that didn't happen. So then they called the one you know, 210 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 10: it took three points off the board, and get down 211 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 10: to the end of it and they you know, they 212 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 10: jumped over him and made a play. 213 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 12: How similar was that the one earlier in the year 214 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:10,239 Speaker 12: when you guys. 215 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 10: Like I'd have to look at it, Jordan, I know, 216 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 10: we change up a few things to try to go 217 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 10: against what they did on their field goal rush team, 218 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 10: and you know this, got to take a look at it, 219 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 10: you know. 220 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 9: But that's what I saw. 221 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 13: Kubas on the penalty that took the points off the board. 222 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:31,679 Speaker 13: Is that is that just a lack of discipline there? 223 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:32,559 Speaker 13: What did you see there? 224 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:34,680 Speaker 9: Saw him trying to finish a play. 225 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:36,439 Speaker 10: I mean, these guys are rushing down the middle of 226 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 10: him and he's just trying to finish and. 227 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 9: They called a penalty. 228 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 14: Is that you look at an experience in that situation 229 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 14: for him as a player, knowing that, Yeah, once they 230 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 14: called the penalty on him, they know, all of a sudden, 231 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 14: you guys kind of back off a little bit. 232 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 9: Yeah, well, I wouldn't say we backed off. 233 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 3: I mean we were, you know, just. 234 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:56,680 Speaker 9: They made they made a nice play. 235 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 10: I mean, he he finished the guy on a field 236 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:00,080 Speaker 10: goal that was trying to run through him. 237 00:10:59,960 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 9: And they call the penalty. 238 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 13: So so that was in your mind, that was not 239 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 13: like that wasn't that wasn't him doing a little extra thing. 240 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 10: Yeah, I'm not. I'm not gonna say that. And that's 241 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 10: that's what they called. 242 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:12,839 Speaker 5: Gas defensive line today. 243 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 12: Yeah, a bunch of old you have to freeze. 244 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, guys who haven't played reps. 245 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 15: Obviously, you look at the magic of going to the 246 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 15: Kamaro and you had to be concerned that those guys 247 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 15: seemed to really play, you know, one off, talk about. 248 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 12: Those guys up front. 249 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, they battled. 250 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:26,719 Speaker 9: I'm proud of them. 251 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:28,560 Speaker 10: You know, the four of those guys and they you 252 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 10: know they were in there, took this one hard. 253 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 9: They were they were battling. 254 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 10: They got an opportunity, and again we did a few 255 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 10: different things defensively, you know, front wise, and try to 256 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 10: mix things up on them. You know, those guys battled. 257 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 10: I'm proud of the way those guys competed. 258 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 16: All right. 259 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 13: Were you aware of the plane that flew over before pregame? 260 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:51,079 Speaker 13: There was a chartered plane similar to seventy eight that 261 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 13: was imploring John to fix the mess kind of thing 262 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:58,079 Speaker 13: that we were aware of that pregame at all, No, 263 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:00,680 Speaker 13: at all big then that. 264 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 12: There's a plane. That's it, you know, mister mart please 265 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:05,439 Speaker 12: fix the dumpster fire. 266 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:08,679 Speaker 10: Yeah, I would say, look, we're you know, we won 267 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 10: two games, so not happy either, right. 268 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 17: First half that scrambled by lock where he scrambled right 269 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 17: into double coverage essentially afterwards the cameras caught you saying 270 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 17: you have to run straight? Like is that what you said? 271 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 17: And how would you evaluate Drew Locke's performance. 272 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:28,440 Speaker 9: I'll go back and look at it. 273 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 10: I think the player're referring to was third down, so, 274 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 10: you know, just trying to make sure we know where 275 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:36,079 Speaker 10: the six are and get the first down and get 276 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 10: a new set of downs. 277 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 12: What was the point of putting Tommy for that once? 278 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 9: Now we had a few plays for Tommy this game. 279 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:45,680 Speaker 9: We got to the one. 280 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 10: It happened to be a kind of zone read. But 281 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 10: it wasn't just all his own reads. It was there 282 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:51,200 Speaker 10: was a few plays in there. 283 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 17: Why was it Malik more involved in the first happening 284 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 17: he only had two targets. 285 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 10: Yeah, again, we try to try to get everybody involved. 286 00:12:58,840 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 3: I don't know. 287 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 10: I think we had three catch is right, three completions 288 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 10: in the first half, So. 289 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:06,559 Speaker 11: Well, why was the passing game so difficult to do? 290 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 12: You know until really the last couple. 291 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:11,839 Speaker 9: Of I mean, I think we had some drops. I 292 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:12,560 Speaker 9: don't know how many. 293 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 10: I think obviously could have done a better job and 294 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:20,559 Speaker 10: in you know, certain areas, whether it's protection, reads, throws, calls, whatever. 295 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 9: Maybe it's a it's a collective thing. Let's put it 296 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 9: on me. 297 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 14: Ran, what's your message to the team now in this 298 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 14: final stretch here? 299 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 10: Yeah, I just just disappointed after this game. They've I 300 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 10: thought they battled their their tails off. 301 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 5: I was. 302 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 10: I was proud of the way they compete it and 303 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 10: we came up short. And it's tough, you know, we 304 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:39,839 Speaker 10: put everything into it and we lose a game there 305 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 10: at the end, and plenty of there's plenty of plays 306 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 10: that that could have made a difference, but it came 307 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 10: up short. Probably for the fans that were calling for 308 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 10: a sweeping change like flying those plays over. 309 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:54,680 Speaker 12: What would be you arguing against what they're calling? 310 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 16: What would be your argument for a state of course here? 311 00:13:57,920 --> 00:13:59,199 Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm I'm disappointed. 312 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 10: We have two wins, so we're just gonna keep on 313 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 10: grinding out and try to keep developing these young players 314 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 10: and you get ready to play a great team next week. 315 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:12,319 Speaker 18: Does that embarrass you that that happened in the stadium today? 316 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:12,959 Speaker 12: Yeah? 317 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 9: Look, I'm just disappointed we lost this game. 318 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 12: Anything else? 319 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 9: All right? 320 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 1: You're right, that's Brian David the podium. Giants football is 321 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 1: brought to you by our local Ford stores. One Engine Drives. 322 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 1: This team for current offers is at buy for now 323 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 1: dot com. Ford Official Truck of the Giants. 324 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 3: What does Brian DEVI will work for the FAA, not 325 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 3: for the plane. 326 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 5: Question. 327 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 4: Just lost a miserable game, some tough calls, his team battled. 328 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 4: I thought he handled it great. How many more times 329 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 4: you're gonna ask him about the plane? 330 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 2: That's all you can say. 331 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 3: And so the plane. 332 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 1: Let's talk about the games, football, and we'll talk about 333 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 1: that and a whole lot more when we come back 334 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 1: right here on Giants extra point. 335 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 2: Giants fall to the Saints fourteen and eleven. 336 00:14:57,120 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 6: You were listening to Giants extra point, the Bubbs Discount 337 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 6: furniture Wsan Giants Radio Network. 338 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 3: Versus ten Giants at the twenty three of New Orleans. 339 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 8: B Lockhakes, the snap looks left the whole way throwing 340 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 8: it for Neighbors, who leaps up, makes the catch touchdown, 341 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 8: then is down at the one yard line as McKinstry 342 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 8: slammed him down, locked in a shotgun. 343 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 3: Set trot to make it a three point game. Block 344 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 3: takes the snap. 345 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 8: Rolls like, rolls it over the middle, put my neighbors 346 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 8: off the deflection and in for the two points. The 347 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 8: Saints deflected it, it fluttered in the air and Neighbors 348 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 8: caught it for the two point conversion. 349 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 1: So that was tonight's scoring drive of the game. Brought 350 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 1: to you by Citizens. For every scoring drive of this season, 351 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 1: Citizens will donate seven hundred and fifty dollars of the 352 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 1: Giants Foundations to support their work tackling in hortant community issues, 353 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 1: improving over health, and empowering our youth. That was a 354 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 1: twenty two yard reception by Milik Neighbors. It set up 355 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 1: a one yard run by Tyrone Tracy Junior. We did 356 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 1: not hear because it looked like a run for no gain, 357 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 1: and then an expedited review on the what type of 358 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 1: angle DA had upstairs? We didn't have it. We didn't 359 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 1: have it in the booth where they ended up giving 360 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 1: him a touchdown. And then you heard the Melik Neighbors 361 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 1: two point conversion off the deflection that made it fourteen 362 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 1: to eleven. It was a thirteen play, eighty two yard 363 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 1: drive that lasted six minutes and three seconds. Yeah, I mean, 364 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 1: Neighbors made some plays late in this game. You had 365 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 1: to be a cat to him too. 366 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, listen, they battled again. You lost your 367 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 4: left guard. You're playing with backup tackles. The guy who 368 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 4: you got at one tackle spot is playing because the 369 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 4: guy who's backing on Andrew Thomas is in a he's 370 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 4: your fifth tackle. Yeah, I mean, listen, I thought this 371 00:16:55,800 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 4: team played so hard, competed. I thought they're defensive game 372 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 4: plan was good, and I just I'm I'm incredulous, you know, 373 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 4: with the way that they lost this game. I'm interested 374 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 4: about this Cuba's play because you have a guy that's 375 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:17,679 Speaker 4: trying to block a field goal, who's leaping in the 376 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 4: air and trying to run you over, and you make 377 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 4: sure he doesn't jump over you. 378 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:24,680 Speaker 2: He lands on his shoulder and now he's on your body. 379 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 3: I don't know this, Jonathan. You played. 380 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:30,439 Speaker 4: I didn't play in the NFL, but it's a pretty 381 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 4: physical sport. 382 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:32,639 Speaker 3: It's pretty emotional. 383 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 4: And you got some dude who's just as big as 384 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 4: you are, leaping in the air, trying to jump over you, 385 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 4: making contact with you, and he's on your shoulder. He's 386 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:43,360 Speaker 4: supposed to, just like his Cuba, is supposed to put 387 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:46,360 Speaker 4: his arms around him and just gently bring him back 388 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 4: to earth. 389 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 2: This is my two year old chumping on my shoulder. 390 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 2: I'm cradling to the ground here. 391 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 3: Look, he's trying to finish. 392 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 4: What do they always talk about finish? 393 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:57,400 Speaker 2: That's why you don't go airborne? Carols said it during 394 00:17:57,400 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 2: the game. 395 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 4: I'm sure the league will come out with some bs 396 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:04,159 Speaker 4: response about how that was the correct call and so 397 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 4: and so, and it rose to the level of and 398 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 4: all this other buzzwords that they use. 399 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 3: But man, that's football. 400 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:14,119 Speaker 5: Yeah yeah. But my thing is is, man, when somebody 401 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:17,160 Speaker 5: commits I don't know, because you can't land on somebody, 402 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 5: that's a penalty. But if they don't see that, they 403 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:22,359 Speaker 5: always catch the second person. That that's what I know. 404 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:24,359 Speaker 5: So if they didn't see that part of it in 405 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 5: terms of like the first part where he's in the 406 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:28,919 Speaker 5: air literally on and you can't land on somebody, they 407 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:30,120 Speaker 5: always catch the second guy. 408 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:33,359 Speaker 1: And if you see the replay as the guy trying 409 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:35,200 Speaker 1: to block it is falling off of Kubos. 410 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 2: He grabs his back too. 411 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:40,159 Speaker 1: He almost pulls Coubos down on top of him as 412 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 1: much as Kubas slams. Now you see to look on 413 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 1: Kubos's face, It's not like some angry body slam. 414 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 2: He looks like, oh man, I'm falling down. 415 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:51,359 Speaker 4: I dare the officiating office of the NFL. Yeah, how 416 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:53,639 Speaker 4: they have all these pieces of tape that they have 417 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 4: to show you know, what's a penalty, what's not a penalty? 418 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 4: I dare them show me a piece of tape of 419 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 4: how it was supposed to have been handled, right, Okay, 420 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 4: you could show me a lot of people and listen. 421 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:11,200 Speaker 4: I thought the Saints did a great job pulling off 422 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:12,879 Speaker 4: Lock when he went into that slide. 423 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:14,199 Speaker 3: Tyron, Matthew and. 424 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:19,400 Speaker 4: Warner could have taken his head off and he kind 425 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:22,359 Speaker 4: of slid late, But they did a really good job 426 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 4: of vaulting over to make sure that they did not 427 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:26,880 Speaker 4: hit him violently. 428 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:28,680 Speaker 3: But I dare you to show me. 429 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 4: A piece where an interior lineman up field goal is 430 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 4: blocking a guy who's leaping up and landing on him. 431 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 4: And please, show me the video of how the right 432 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:40,160 Speaker 4: way to do it is, of how to feather him 433 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:42,119 Speaker 4: to the ground to not commit a penalty. 434 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:44,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, and look, I thought the officials, too, like the 435 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 1: Giants players, asked for a couple of depis on the 436 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 1: final drive. I thought they were correct not to throw, 437 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:51,159 Speaker 1: you know, throw the flag on those. I thought, for 438 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:53,160 Speaker 1: the most part, they did a pretty good job during 439 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 1: the game. But I'm with you, I did not see 440 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:57,160 Speaker 1: it necessarily on that personal foul penalty. 441 00:19:57,400 --> 00:20:00,440 Speaker 5: It's a little ironic how the Giants lost today, given 442 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 5: that the when they went up to Seattle, they ended 443 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:05,159 Speaker 5: that game with a blot of black field go excuse me, 444 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 5: literally the same exact way, similar held guys down. One 445 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 5: guy jumps over. I mean he didn't have the vertical 446 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 5: as Isaiah Simmons had, but it was enough for him 447 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 5: to get over the line. Literally executed the same exact 448 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 5: way the Giants did up in Seattle, and that's how 449 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 5: they lost the game. 450 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:23,640 Speaker 1: We mimmy, didn't the Giants have another game that ended 451 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 1: with a field well getting blocked, one of their own 452 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 1: kicks getting blocked, or they had a kick block late 453 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter that that hurt them in a 454 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:33,119 Speaker 1: game this year or orm I remembering, and then correctly, 455 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 1: I thought I remembered they had a special teams play 456 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:37,159 Speaker 1: in one of those Arway season losses where they had 457 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:39,200 Speaker 1: a kick block or something of that late in the 458 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:43,360 Speaker 1: game field goal, right, Yeah, I don't remember what game 459 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 1: it was, but unfortunately there's been a lot of losses. 460 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:47,680 Speaker 1: I can't I can't tell but part of this point, 461 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 1: but I'm pretty sure there was a game late in 462 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 1: the year this year where we're gonna go with a 463 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:52,879 Speaker 1: late kick or miss. 464 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:53,359 Speaker 2: Maybe. 465 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 3: No, I don't think it was Gonna. I think it 466 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:56,119 Speaker 3: was Greg Joseph. 467 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 2: Actually, oh, it might have been great Joseph. 468 00:20:57,840 --> 00:20:58,200 Speaker 3: You're right. 469 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 1: So look, these mistakes have kind of popped up over 470 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:02,879 Speaker 1: the course of the year. I want to go back 471 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 1: to what jac said, But what Bob said, Jac, I 472 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:06,880 Speaker 1: want to ask you, as a player, does it say 473 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 1: anything about some of the contention out there that this 474 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:12,959 Speaker 1: coaching staff has lost the locker room that with all 475 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:16,640 Speaker 1: these guys that are practice squad players and backups, they 476 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:18,920 Speaker 1: came out and put a pretty good effort against the 477 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 1: Saints team that has played hard and played close in 478 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 1: won a couple of games the last few weeks. 479 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:28,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely, you know, these guys battled. We saw that today. 480 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 5: It wasn't perfect, you know, it was it was sloppy 481 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 5: at times, a lot of penalty so it wasn't a 482 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 5: discipline a style of football that they would play today. 483 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 5: But they battled. They battled hard every single quarter. You know. 484 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:41,639 Speaker 5: It was good plays on both sides, bad plays on 485 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 5: both sides, but they battled, you know, and this young 486 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:49,159 Speaker 5: batch of kind of unnamed players. You know, I had 487 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:52,360 Speaker 5: to keep looking, you know, at our information sheet over 488 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:54,399 Speaker 5: here to see who some of these guys were. But 489 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 5: they were playing hard, you know, and you got to 490 00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 5: tip your hat for the effort, you know. But you 491 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:01,679 Speaker 5: don't get a win because of effort. You know, you 492 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:04,359 Speaker 5: have to execute, especially at the end of the game. 493 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 5: But you know, I got a tip my hat to 494 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:10,359 Speaker 5: these guys. And you know, the locker room is it's rough, 495 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:13,879 Speaker 5: two schmolt because the leaders for the Giants, especially the 496 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 5: last two years, most of those leaders are either gone 497 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:18,920 Speaker 5: or injured right now. So you got a whole bunch 498 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 5: of guys that either knew guys this year, or young 499 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 5: guys or guys that never even played before. That's the 500 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 5: team that took the field today and they put up 501 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 5: a valiant effort against you know, I wouldn't say that 502 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 5: a talented team, but this team had a couple of wins, 503 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 5: you know, recently. They lost last week, but they had 504 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:36,399 Speaker 5: a couple wins recently that kind of put them in 505 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 5: contention in their division. So this is a team that's 506 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 5: still competing to play for a spot in the playoffs. 507 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:44,400 Speaker 5: And the Giants held them to fourteen points and took 508 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:45,919 Speaker 5: it down to the last few seconds and got a 509 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 5: field goal block, and they were in it the whole 510 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:48,399 Speaker 5: entire game. 511 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:51,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, look, I thought you have to give them credit. 512 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:54,439 Speaker 1: And you know, you talked about the offensive line. They 513 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 1: were down to one starter on that final drive, and 514 00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 1: he was playing at a position with with Greg Van 515 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:01,479 Speaker 1: Roten playing center. He with Cubos on one side, Stinny 516 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 1: on the other, with josh A Zudu and Evan Neil 517 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 1: out there. 518 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 2: And honestly, I thought Drew Lock was a Lancey back there, Bob. 519 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:10,640 Speaker 1: For the most part, I thought the protection was actually 520 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:12,200 Speaker 1: okay for most of this game. 521 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:13,680 Speaker 3: I think Drew Lock was way better. 522 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 4: Obviously in the second half, first half he was I listen, 523 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:20,359 Speaker 4: I had said at halftime I thought that maybe Dable 524 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 4: will make a change of quarterback, because I thought Locke 525 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:27,880 Speaker 4: was so jittery back there, and there wasn't like this 526 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 4: ridiculous pass rush coming at him, and it was like 527 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 4: he was leaving the pocket instead of letting it rip. 528 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 4: And we're looking up here in the booth and there's 529 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:40,120 Speaker 4: guys open, like, what are you doing. You're not under 530 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 4: that much pressure. To Locke's credit, as the game went on, 531 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:47,639 Speaker 4: especially in the fourth quarter, when this game became a game, 532 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,440 Speaker 4: he certainly settled in there. I mean that out route 533 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 4: that he threw to Slayton, he got blasted. I mean 534 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 4: he had heavy pressure and he delivered a perfect throat 535 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:01,400 Speaker 4: to Slayton. He put a great ball on Neighbors down 536 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:03,359 Speaker 4: the sideline that you know, you want to see the 537 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:06,679 Speaker 4: leak hold on to that thing. And I thought he 538 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:10,680 Speaker 4: handled pressure really well as the game moved on. And 539 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 4: again that's why I chuckled there at the end, like 540 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 4: I can't believe. I cannot believe that this game didn't 541 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:18,680 Speaker 4: go overtime. 542 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:20,680 Speaker 1: And jac was good to see the league Neighbors have 543 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:22,679 Speaker 1: a bit of a bounce back performance. He was quiet 544 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 1: early but made some big time plays late. In this game, 545 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 1: they put the Giants in position to try to tie 546 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 1: the game. 547 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, and he said that too. You know, he did 548 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 5: have an early drop this game too, and you know 549 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 5: he came back and he said it before the game, 550 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 5: you know, the interview that you played. If the Giants, 551 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 5: you know, go to him late, he'll be ready, and 552 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:40,920 Speaker 5: he was. You know, he definitely had a great second 553 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 5: half surge. And when Drew Locke got comfortable, you know, 554 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 5: he was able to find some open receivers late in 555 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:49,640 Speaker 5: the game, you know, some tough throws and like Bob said, 556 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:51,879 Speaker 5: you know, it wasn't a clean pocket every time. He 557 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:54,640 Speaker 5: took some hits, but he showed some courage in there, 558 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 5: sitting in the pocket, you know, in the face of adversity, 559 00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:59,679 Speaker 5: you know, and it's hard to win games here, and 560 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:02,359 Speaker 5: the if you haven't figured out yet, Giants fans, the 561 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 5: Giants are making sure that you understand that how hard 562 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 5: it is to win games here, especially at MetLife. You know. 563 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:10,919 Speaker 5: But it's valiant effort, you know, and I feel for 564 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:14,400 Speaker 5: these guys. You know, it's a man I would hate 565 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:15,879 Speaker 5: to be in that locker room. I've been part of 566 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 5: seasons like this. Tho Schmel Bob, I've been part of 567 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 5: you know, rough seasons where you're you know, sitting and 568 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 5: looking at the last month of the season and you 569 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:25,400 Speaker 5: only got a couple of wins underneath your belt. Man, 570 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 5: it makes it very difficult to go home, makes it 571 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 5: very difficult to interact with fans and even be yourself 572 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:32,440 Speaker 5: at home, you know. So I gotta tip my hat 573 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 5: to these guys. They gave a value effort, man, and 574 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 5: you know, I hope they can come out with some 575 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 5: you know, good energy at practice because man, they got 576 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 5: they got a monster coming in here next weekend. 577 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 3: Yeah. 578 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 4: I mean, look, next week is gonna be really interesting, 579 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:51,640 Speaker 4: right because you got a Ravens team that's coming off 580 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 4: the buy and they're one of the best teams in 581 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 4: the National Football League. 582 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 3: But that's we'll worry about that during the course of 583 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 3: the week. You know. Credit Trey Hawkins. 584 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 4: I thought Trey Hawkins played nicely for the Giants today 585 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 4: and he got that interception, played the ball really well, 586 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 4: had another pass breakup in the game. Good for him. 587 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:13,640 Speaker 4: Second year guy out of Old Dominion. Guys were given 588 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:16,399 Speaker 4: an opportunity to put something on tape. A bunch of 589 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 4: guys that have never played in the NFL, and they 590 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:22,440 Speaker 4: put stuff on tape today, and I know the coaching 591 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 4: staff doesn't want to hear it or whatever, because there 592 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:29,399 Speaker 4: it's all about zero sum scenario is either win or 593 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 4: you lose. But I mean, I thought they did a 594 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 4: great job of getting their team prepared today to play 595 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:37,639 Speaker 4: and then dealing with the adversity during the course of 596 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 4: the game. 597 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:40,919 Speaker 3: Pretty good stuff. 598 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I hope you can carry over whatever they 599 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 1: did with their run defense today. You know, maybe it 600 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:47,159 Speaker 1: was just put an extra guys in the box with 601 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 1: the Saints have no healthy wide receivers. They have Marcus 602 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 1: Valdi scaling and then a bunch of guys that frankly 603 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:54,359 Speaker 1: fans part of I'm very familiar with Cedric Wilson from 604 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 1: Dallas and two guys they called up off their practice squad. 605 00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:59,879 Speaker 1: So that's maybe not an approach you can do against 606 00:26:59,880 --> 00:27:02,200 Speaker 1: a lot of other teams because they aren't as shorthanded 607 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 1: a wide receiver that the Saints are. But that's been 608 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 1: a consistent weakness of this Giants defense throughout the year. 609 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,879 Speaker 1: Johnathan can see us and maybe they can use whatever 610 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 1: they found here today and carry that through the rest 611 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:14,440 Speaker 1: of the year. 612 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:16,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, I thought before the game when we're trying to 613 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 5: figure out how would the Giants defense kind of still 614 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 5: you know involved the pass rush, you know, with all 615 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 5: of the guys being down along the defensive line and 616 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:28,879 Speaker 5: you know, Bobby Okaac being out. I think it was 617 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 5: you know, pretty opportune times where they've run blitzed right 618 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 5: into you know, when the Saints try to run the football. 619 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,359 Speaker 5: Mikel McFadden was downhill all day. He had five tackles 620 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 5: for lost today, you know, eleven total tackles. Darius Muissow 621 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:46,199 Speaker 5: he had a great game as well. When you have 622 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:49,680 Speaker 5: two linebackers playing fast and downhill like that, that makes 623 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:50,480 Speaker 5: a lot of things happen. 624 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,119 Speaker 1: Let's get to Drew lockdown at the podium after the game. 625 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:16,160 Speaker 12: Y Okay, what did the uh X rated show? 626 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:21,360 Speaker 11: Nothing? Just a couple bumps and bruises right now. 627 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 10: Yeah, more testing coming means huh more testing coming. 628 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 19: I'm just gonna look at some stuff in the morning. Yeah, 629 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:31,119 Speaker 19: but no, feel good? 630 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 1: God, why do you think it was tough to generate early? 631 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 12: And then what do you think you found late? 632 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 11: Just missed some easy ones. 633 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 19: It's one of those, uh, one of those halfs where 634 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 19: you're gonna go back and be frustrated. They're giving us 635 00:28:56,080 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 19: some stuff and ah man just didn't maximize opportunities they 636 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 19: gave us, you know, as the quarterback, and how I 637 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 19: feel it's the classic shooting shoot myself in the foot 638 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 19: on some plays where we had opportunities and didn't didn't 639 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 19: take him, didn't make them. 640 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 20: Did you feel left some plays on a field drop? 641 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 19: Absolutely, especially in the first half. Its gon'd be better 642 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 19: coming out turn it on a little bit in the 643 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 19: second half, but uh, it's easy when it's normal ball, 644 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 19: when it's not down trying to come back. 645 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 11: We we I I gotta be better in that first half. 646 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 14: What goes through your mind when you get to the 647 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 14: point of being able to come back to the final 648 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 14: two minutes and then you see that feel COVID's. 649 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 19: Plowing, Yeah, you know for me, it's yeah, whatever that was. 650 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 11: That was one play and a lot that I felt. 651 00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 19: Like I the guy with the ball in my hands, 652 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:01,640 Speaker 19: you know, could have made a difference earlier in the 653 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:05,960 Speaker 19: in the first half, and that that's football. But you 654 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 19: try to minimize those and I think there was too 655 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 19: many of them today. 656 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 21: What did you see down in the red zone down 657 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 21: the game there when you're trying to score a couple 658 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 21: of completions there. What were you guys trying to do? 659 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:16,719 Speaker 21: Would you see with their defense? 660 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 19: Yeah, but they were giving us a lot of tampa 661 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 19: on that final drive and flipped a couple guys around 662 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 19: in the huddle. Put one Dell at three neighbors at 663 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 19: the X. Try to get it two on one on 664 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 19: the boundary safety. They gave me tampa. Wandell did a 665 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 19: great job of getting around fifty six. Put a low 666 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:42,040 Speaker 19: ball to Wandell and guy made a good play on 667 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 19: that got it down. You know, the last play, it 668 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 19: was we got the field goal, they're going to be 669 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 19: playing off. Can't get tackled and bounce. If we do, 670 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 19: we better get up on the ball. So at that 671 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:57,800 Speaker 19: point it was, you know, end zone incompleted or out 672 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 19: of balance and bounce. 673 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 12: So how do you get up from? Somebody? 674 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 5: Sense you get up from? 675 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 13: Sir? 676 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 11: No, that's football. 677 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 19: You know again, I'll go back and watch it, and 678 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:16,760 Speaker 19: you know, I'll say that I probably brought myself into 679 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 19: a couple and a couple happened in the game, and 680 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:23,719 Speaker 19: you know, that's what you're prepared for, prepared to get 681 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 19: hit a couple of times a quarterback. If there's no 682 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,000 Speaker 19: grass stands on a jersey, I feel like I didn't 683 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 19: do anything today. 684 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:33,959 Speaker 11: So I got a couple and just keep chugging. 685 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 14: Sure, were you aware of the playing that through from 686 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 14: the stadium in hand of the game of the banner 687 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 14: that read a start arapp lets fix the stumpser fire? 688 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 5: No? I was not. 689 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 19: No, Uh, pretty focused on on the game. 690 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 11: I guess, uh did not see it. 691 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 19: That's going to pretty far links to try to take 692 00:31:58,000 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 19: a message, But. 693 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,160 Speaker 11: No, I didn't see it. What do you think of 694 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 11: that as a as a player? 695 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:03,840 Speaker 12: I mean, do you find out about some people not. 696 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 11: In one ear out the other. 697 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 19: Not gonna affect me tonight, not gonna affect me tomorrow, 698 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 19: Gotta come in, It's not gonna affect any of us. 699 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,880 Speaker 19: Gotta come back, come back to work. Got another game 700 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:20,720 Speaker 19: Sunday against a really good football team. 701 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 16: And. 702 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:24,960 Speaker 19: For worrying about that, you know they'll come in and 703 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:26,000 Speaker 19: get after us. 704 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 22: Drew. 705 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 12: You mentioned the Ravens. 706 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 17: How do you turn the page on a game like 707 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 17: this and get ready for a team like three evens? 708 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:32,480 Speaker 12: Yeah? 709 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 19: Just being a resilient group shooting you're two and eleven. 710 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 19: You gotta be resilient. You know, you're going out there, 711 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 19: going out there with pride, with passion for the game, 712 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 19: love the gaming, to come out there and give everything 713 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 19: you got and uh, just try to taste that. 714 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:51,600 Speaker 11: Taste that win again. 715 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:56,720 Speaker 19: You know, get one of those Mondays, feel good, the 716 00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 19: whole week of practice feels good. Gotta keep grinding and 717 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:01,480 Speaker 19: keep pushing and keep battling. That locker room is tight. 718 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:03,960 Speaker 19: It's one of the closest locker rooms I've I've ever 719 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 19: been in. 720 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 11: Zero finger pointing. It's it's nice to be in that and. 721 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,200 Speaker 19: I think guys have handled us the best they could 722 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 19: and we're gonna continue to handle it and you know, 723 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 19: try to get a win here in these last couple 724 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 19: of games. 725 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,760 Speaker 23: Drew, I know it's silly, but did Dave say you 726 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:23,600 Speaker 23: going next week? 727 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:25,800 Speaker 11: Nothing yet? Nothing yet? 728 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 12: And you said, Drew, you said, how tight the locker room? 729 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 5: Missouri? 730 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:32,200 Speaker 15: With that, how about the messages falls from the coaching staffs? 731 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:33,600 Speaker 11: Did it plays in that locker room? 732 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:36,760 Speaker 15: Still believe and the messages that's coming. 733 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 11: From the coaching staff I do. I do believe that. 734 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:45,960 Speaker 19: Everybody kind of everybody, because shoot, what they're saying is true. 735 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 19: We go out there and a bust ass for four quarters. 736 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:54,520 Speaker 19: These little details keeps keep sneaking in. You know, that 737 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:56,280 Speaker 19: was a game where the defense goes out and plays 738 00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 19: their butt off the whole game, and. 739 00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:01,720 Speaker 11: You know we didn't put enough points on the board. 740 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:06,080 Speaker 19: The messages are all true, they're all uh. You know, 741 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:09,319 Speaker 19: there's there's no uh trying to pull the wool over 742 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:12,200 Speaker 19: our eyes in there. Everything when it's coming out is 743 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:15,920 Speaker 19: Dave's mouth and it's true. And we gotta keep pressing, 744 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 19: keep going. 745 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,319 Speaker 1: Player Press conference are brought to you by met Life, 746 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:26,560 Speaker 1: the official insurance company other than New York Giants. 747 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:27,920 Speaker 2: Final thoughts, Bob Papa. 748 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:30,239 Speaker 4: I think he hit the right notes too, you know 749 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,279 Speaker 4: when I asked about the plane and everything else, I mean, 750 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:35,319 Speaker 4: this guy's this guy is fighting to. 751 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:36,640 Speaker 3: Try to get a win, right. 752 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:40,160 Speaker 4: The team's only got two wins this year, you know 753 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:43,720 Speaker 4: it's it's I thought he was right on point. 754 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 3: He's right the little things. 755 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:48,200 Speaker 4: But I give him a lot of credit value and effort, 756 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,680 Speaker 4: you know, dealing with the makeship off of the line 757 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:53,360 Speaker 4: that they were dealing with today, I mean. 758 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:57,120 Speaker 3: What can you say, what can you really say? 759 00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,240 Speaker 4: They gave it their all, you know, and I think 760 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:01,600 Speaker 4: for all the those Giants fans that did show up 761 00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:06,040 Speaker 4: today to support their team. They treated you to a 762 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:11,000 Speaker 4: fine effort. They tried their best and it just wasn't 763 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:15,080 Speaker 4: good enough. But what else can you ask for? I mean, 764 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:17,080 Speaker 4: what else can you ask for? 765 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:19,600 Speaker 1: Bob Papa. We'll talk to you next week by the 766 00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:20,520 Speaker 1: Giants host the Ravens. 767 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 3: I'm sure fans are gonna like that, but. 768 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,480 Speaker 1: We have plenty more to talk about. We'll take your 769 00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:27,080 Speaker 1: calls later in the show. More reaction from the locker 770 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:29,000 Speaker 1: room as well. Carl Banks. I think if he comes 771 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:30,640 Speaker 1: back up here. We'll see if Carl makes a return, 772 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:32,920 Speaker 1: and we'll pull to Tino join us as well. Giants 773 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:34,880 Speaker 1: Football brought to you by Verizon, the official five G 774 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,840 Speaker 1: network of the New York Giants, Verizon America's most reliable network. 775 00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:40,239 Speaker 1: Time Out will come back with more from downstairs and 776 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:43,360 Speaker 1: more analysis from Jonathan Cancius and more right after this 777 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:44,359 Speaker 1: on Giants Extra Point. 778 00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:48,200 Speaker 6: You are listening to Giants Extra Point on the Bobs 779 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:52,200 Speaker 6: Discount Furniture Wfan Giants Radio Network. 780 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,160 Speaker 24: This is Trey Hawkins and you're listening to Radio Home 781 00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:59,680 Speaker 24: of Big Blue the Fan Wfan in WFAN FM, New York. 782 00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:07,399 Speaker 3: Bark calm signals. Play clock at eight. Williams two is right. 783 00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:13,640 Speaker 4: Giants showed Bliss back and rows car Lobs at left. 784 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:15,600 Speaker 3: Pass gets held up by the winner. 785 00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:20,439 Speaker 8: It's intercepted by Hawkins at the eighteen yard line. It's 786 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:26,320 Speaker 8: the Giants first interception since opening gay and it goes 787 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:29,560 Speaker 8: to Trey Hawkins, who gets his first career back. 788 00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:34,040 Speaker 1: That was today's play. The game brought to you by 789 00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 1: our local Ford stores. One engine drives This team for 790 00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:39,680 Speaker 1: curn offers is at yboard now dot com Ford Official 791 00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:40,640 Speaker 1: truck at the Giants. 792 00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:41,680 Speaker 2: The streak is over. 793 00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:47,000 Speaker 1: The interceptionless streak Jonathan Casia since Week one, when Darius 794 00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:50,640 Speaker 1: Muisau grabbed the giants first and only interception of the year, 795 00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:53,520 Speaker 1: has ended nice played by Trey Hawkins. Derek Carr hung 796 00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:55,520 Speaker 1: the ball up a little bit elevated and went up 797 00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:58,400 Speaker 1: to get the football, getting the Giants their interception. 798 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:00,560 Speaker 5: Trey Hawk, Is that a good game? You know? I 799 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:02,160 Speaker 5: think there was one catch late in the game that 800 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:04,440 Speaker 5: he had on him, but you know, this is the NFL. 801 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:05,320 Speaker 5: Those things that happened. 802 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,600 Speaker 1: But I don't think he didn't come back into the 803 00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:09,239 Speaker 1: game after he hurt himself late though, right. 804 00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:10,000 Speaker 5: I was gonna ask. 805 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:10,799 Speaker 2: I don't think he did. 806 00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,319 Speaker 5: Yeah, but that'd be man if hopefully he's he's fine, 807 00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:14,880 Speaker 5: not gonna well hope for that kid's good. But he 808 00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:16,600 Speaker 5: played a good game, you know, especially early in the game. 809 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:18,600 Speaker 5: They were going at him and he was making some plays, 810 00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:21,520 Speaker 5: some good stops. You know, he looked, he looked good, 811 00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:24,200 Speaker 5: he look explosive, he looked healthy. That was a good 812 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:25,680 Speaker 5: pick he had. He had to win up and go 813 00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:27,279 Speaker 5: get that one, you know, And there was a lot 814 00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:29,919 Speaker 5: of opportunities out there today. When you know, guys go down, 815 00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:32,759 Speaker 5: there's gonna be other players that have to step up. 816 00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:34,680 Speaker 5: And you know, a lot of guys stepped up today, 817 00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:36,239 Speaker 5: you know, And like I said, it was sometimes I 818 00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:39,120 Speaker 5: had to look like who's number sixty nine on defense? 819 00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:41,440 Speaker 5: You know, I had to make sure you know who 820 00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:43,600 Speaker 5: the guys were. But look, that was a valiant effort 821 00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:47,080 Speaker 5: that they put forth. Today. You know, it sucks because 822 00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:48,680 Speaker 5: they didn't come away with a win. But you know, 823 00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:50,279 Speaker 5: I'm sure that when they turn on that film, there's 824 00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:52,279 Speaker 5: gonna be a whole bunch of young guys that they 825 00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:55,319 Speaker 5: maybe never even seen before on film that put some 826 00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:58,520 Speaker 5: good film out there. Definitely some good effort out there tonight. 827 00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:01,440 Speaker 1: So I went through a Jason twenty two normal starters 828 00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:03,680 Speaker 1: of the guys that were either supposed to be in 829 00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:05,560 Speaker 1: there at the start of the season or because of 830 00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:07,960 Speaker 1: an early injury, weren't there anymore. They were down to 831 00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,400 Speaker 1: ten of their normal starters by the end of the game. 832 00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:12,680 Speaker 1: Throw the offensive linemen out. The only guys that were 833 00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:15,440 Speaker 1: left on the field were Slayton Wando Robinson, Greg Van 834 00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:17,640 Speaker 1: Roden was in there, but out of position at center. 835 00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:21,960 Speaker 1: Trace your singletary, whicheveryone you want to take, Malik Neighbors, 836 00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:27,040 Speaker 1: Brian Burns, Cavon Thibodeau, Mike McFadden, Tyler Newban, and Jason Pinnock. 837 00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:27,879 Speaker 5: That's it. 838 00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:31,760 Speaker 1: Ten out of the twenty two starters at the beginning 839 00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:34,200 Speaker 1: of the year. You know, since it's been real established 840 00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:36,319 Speaker 1: after a major injury, that were left on the field. 841 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:38,200 Speaker 1: So they really were playing, and a lot of the 842 00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:40,680 Speaker 1: backups to those initial guys were now too at the 843 00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:44,080 Speaker 1: defensive tackle spot the offensive tackle spot. But they John's 844 00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:45,600 Speaker 1: did a really good job of staying in this game. 845 00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:48,399 Speaker 1: They just which has been the story most of this year, 846 00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:49,440 Speaker 1: they were not able to close it. 847 00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:51,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, they have to figure out a way to 848 00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:54,520 Speaker 5: do it. You know, no matter who's playing, who's playing quarterback, 849 00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:56,879 Speaker 5: who's running back. You know, they had to figure out 850 00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:59,000 Speaker 5: a way to do it because they give themselves a chance. 851 00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:02,279 Speaker 5: And you know when I when I went undrafted, my 852 00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:04,520 Speaker 5: mom said, all you need is opportunity, and all of 853 00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:07,480 Speaker 5: these guys got opportunities to play. And now the Giants 854 00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:09,920 Speaker 5: gave themselves another opportunity to win a game at least 855 00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:12,520 Speaker 5: tie your game up at home, and they failed to 856 00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:14,279 Speaker 5: do so. Man, and then it's like they fight and 857 00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:17,279 Speaker 5: scratch and claw. They do it, you know, the whole game, 858 00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:19,560 Speaker 5: and you know, I don't know if it was a 859 00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:22,759 Speaker 5: flaw and how they executed that, you know, the extra point. 860 00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:27,520 Speaker 5: I mean, see that field goal protection? Yeah, man, it's 861 00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:30,600 Speaker 5: it sucks. Man, It's hard, you know, watching because you know, 862 00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:33,319 Speaker 5: you saw the effort. You know, like we talked a 863 00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:36,759 Speaker 5: couple of weeks ago and that Buccaneers game, it was like, 864 00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,640 Speaker 5: you know, the energy I felt like wasn't quite there 865 00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:41,920 Speaker 5: you know for that game, and then the score was 866 00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:45,680 Speaker 5: so lopsided and today four quarters. I never questioned any 867 00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:47,879 Speaker 5: of that today. It was never a sign of that, 868 00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:51,239 Speaker 5: you know, And I think the Giants. You look at 869 00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:54,759 Speaker 5: you know, the quality of starts versus New Orleans. They 870 00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:57,640 Speaker 5: were definitely outmanned, an outgunn for sure, and they put 871 00:39:57,680 --> 00:39:59,680 Speaker 5: up a great effort. Man, it just sucks that they 872 00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:01,319 Speaker 5: came short yet again at home. 873 00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:03,640 Speaker 1: All Right, Trey Hawkins had that interception. You spoke to 874 00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:06,160 Speaker 1: the media after the game. Let's listen in we'll tree. 875 00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,160 Speaker 15: You got off flood playing time today and you came 876 00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:10,279 Speaker 15: up to the first pick of your NFL career in 877 00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:12,080 Speaker 15: your second season, particuing through the play. 878 00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:13,319 Speaker 12: I'm sure had to feel pretty good. 879 00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:17,279 Speaker 24: It was a blitz play. All credits to Shane Rome 880 00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:21,120 Speaker 24: calling to play. All credits to the D line getting 881 00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:24,319 Speaker 24: pressure on the quarterback. Quarterback threw it up, I came 882 00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:24,879 Speaker 24: down with it. 883 00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:27,400 Speaker 15: The message all week that we heard from the coaching 884 00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:30,640 Speaker 15: staff was everybody's got to be prepped for this, doesn't 885 00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:32,200 Speaker 15: matter where they are in the depth chart. 886 00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:34,600 Speaker 2: So what was the mentality that you took into this. 887 00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:36,680 Speaker 15: Game knowing that you were going to have to have horbalow. 888 00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:40,360 Speaker 24: I just want to build that trust within the coaches 889 00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:42,799 Speaker 24: and I just want to I just want to get better, 890 00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:45,600 Speaker 24: and really, my mencity was I just got to prepare 891 00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:47,719 Speaker 24: study and then let the game. 892 00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:48,680 Speaker 12: And just let me play the game. 893 00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:52,040 Speaker 15: Getting so much playing time today, extensive playing time. How 894 00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:54,520 Speaker 15: do you feel you are better now than what you 895 00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:56,360 Speaker 15: were as a rookiere even earlier this season? 896 00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:58,480 Speaker 24: I mean as a game people going on. I keep 897 00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:03,480 Speaker 24: getting experienced, so just understanding defense, understanding the OC what 898 00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:05,640 Speaker 24: he likes to do, understanding of how their acquid plays. 899 00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:07,640 Speaker 24: You know, I just understanding the people like so as 900 00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:09,919 Speaker 24: ex as, I keep getting experienced, It just keep getting better. 901 00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:13,000 Speaker 15: How much of 'em mentality were all the backups who 902 00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:14,680 Speaker 15: had to play today? I would assume that old of 903 00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:16,920 Speaker 15: you guys would kind of high five in each other 904 00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:18,920 Speaker 15: and giving yourself a little extra juice, know when you 905 00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:20,200 Speaker 15: guys were gonna have to step up with you. 906 00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:22,480 Speaker 12: You and the Yeah we we. I feel like we 907 00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:23,200 Speaker 12: brought the energy. 908 00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:26,359 Speaker 24: Execution could have been better on my part as well, 909 00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:28,759 Speaker 24: but yeah, I felt he brought the energy. 910 00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:31,000 Speaker 12: Appreciate your time, Yeah, appreciation. 911 00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:33,359 Speaker 25: Tw Did you how do you feel walking away from 912 00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:35,680 Speaker 25: the skin physically physically? 913 00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:41,359 Speaker 12: I'm okay, Yeah, I'm okay. Where did you check again? 914 00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:42,200 Speaker 1: Uh? 915 00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:42,719 Speaker 12: It was like. 916 00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:46,640 Speaker 24: I don't wanna answer the question yet about the I'm 917 00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:48,080 Speaker 24: gon wait till the doctor sefecause I don't know. 918 00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:51,360 Speaker 18: Yet trade with their uh said exhale sigh of relief. 919 00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:53,800 Speaker 18: When you guys when you got that interception, Yeah, I 920 00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:55,600 Speaker 18: know everybody in the block room knew. It had been 921 00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:57,600 Speaker 18: eleven games since you guys have an interception. 922 00:41:58,120 --> 00:41:59,399 Speaker 12: I would it felt good. 923 00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:01,480 Speaker 24: I don't know if relief is the word, but it 924 00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:04,200 Speaker 24: definitely felt good. Was that weighing on guys though, like 925 00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:06,480 Speaker 24: it's been eleven game? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yes, 926 00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:08,120 Speaker 24: he was saying, yeah, most definitely. 927 00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:09,839 Speaker 18: The guys were talking about that we have to break 928 00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:10,280 Speaker 18: that streak. 929 00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:12,320 Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, yeah. We've been trying to break this streak 930 00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:15,000 Speaker 12: every game of a week, and. 931 00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:17,240 Speaker 1: They finally did longest streak in the NFL since nineteen 932 00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:19,839 Speaker 1: thirty three. Giants with the pick today, but they were 933 00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:22,080 Speaker 1: not able to turn it into a victory. They fall 934 00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:25,120 Speaker 1: to the Saints fourteen to eleven, and with that late 935 00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:28,600 Speaker 1: Drew Lock interception, the Giants continuing streak of not winning 936 00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:31,759 Speaker 1: the turnover battle coach to thirteen games. They have not 937 00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:34,960 Speaker 1: won the turnover battle in an individual game yet this year, 938 00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,040 Speaker 1: and I did look it up. It was the Cincinnati 939 00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:39,320 Speaker 1: Bengal game. Great Joseph missed a field goal late in 940 00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:42,000 Speaker 1: that game started the fourth quarter that could have tied it, 941 00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:43,680 Speaker 1: and then he missed another field goal later on in 942 00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:44,440 Speaker 1: that fourth quarter. 943 00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:45,279 Speaker 2: That was the game. 944 00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:47,319 Speaker 1: I was thinking about the miss field goals late that 945 00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:50,600 Speaker 1: potentially hurt the Giants cause quick time out. We'll come 946 00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:52,560 Speaker 1: back with her from elite neighbors in the locker room. 947 00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:54,719 Speaker 1: That and a whole lot more as we roll on. 948 00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:56,680 Speaker 1: Giants fall to the Saints fourteen to eleven. 949 00:42:56,880 --> 00:43:00,440 Speaker 6: You were listening to Giants extra Point on the Bob's 950 00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:04,480 Speaker 6: Discount Furniture WSAN Giants Radio Network. 951 00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:07,160 Speaker 26: This is my elite neighbors, and you're listening to the 952 00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:10,400 Speaker 26: radio home of Big Blue the Fan, w f EN 953 00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:12,840 Speaker 26: and w Fan FM, New. 954 00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:16,560 Speaker 1: York Backyard Giants extra Point. Giants fall to the Saints 955 00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:18,839 Speaker 1: fourteen to eleven. Elaite neighbors or just the media after 956 00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:19,920 Speaker 1: the game, let's listen. 957 00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:22,960 Speaker 15: It on leak another close loss that comes down to 958 00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,160 Speaker 15: the last minute or so. You've had a bunch of 959 00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:27,960 Speaker 15: these this year. How difficult is it to digest those 960 00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:29,040 Speaker 15: kinds of defeats? 961 00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:32,279 Speaker 26: I answered that question pillion of times. I mean it's 962 00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:36,439 Speaker 26: hard lose. It's hard, So assume when you lose like that, 963 00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:40,279 Speaker 26: fighting toil, then it's hard, Like. 964 00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:42,479 Speaker 12: Can you walk us through that two point conversion of life? 965 00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:44,040 Speaker 5: How you saw it? 966 00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:47,440 Speaker 26: I mean the defense defense played it well. They knew 967 00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:50,480 Speaker 26: it was coming. You know, were just adjusted on the fly. 968 00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:54,040 Speaker 26: You know it's two points, so jud just gave a 969 00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:57,359 Speaker 26: shot and hit it up. It was floating in the airshole. Yeah, 970 00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:00,279 Speaker 26: just beut in my hands, leak. 971 00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:02,719 Speaker 23: How did you come from the game with your injuries 972 00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:03,759 Speaker 23: and stuff or. 973 00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:05,840 Speaker 5: To be honest, I don't know. 974 00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:08,520 Speaker 12: I mean it is what it is. 975 00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:09,880 Speaker 26: I don't think you gonna have to play a football 976 00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:10,760 Speaker 26: game at a hundred percent. 977 00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:13,200 Speaker 11: You always have something going on, but you know, if. 978 00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:14,879 Speaker 26: You can get over it, help your team tryna win. 979 00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:17,040 Speaker 26: So that's all I was doing, just tryna tryna help 980 00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:17,560 Speaker 26: my team win. 981 00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:19,480 Speaker 27: Did you feel, though, if you were at at point 982 00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:21,200 Speaker 27: where you could help the team or did you feel 983 00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:22,040 Speaker 27: limited in any way? 984 00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:23,239 Speaker 12: I don't feel limited. 985 00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:25,839 Speaker 26: I think I played enough amount of snaps to say 986 00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:28,400 Speaker 26: I only practice two days after week, feel like my 987 00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:30,440 Speaker 26: body was in shape for me to go out there 988 00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:34,600 Speaker 26: and compete. Yeah, and I think I think I did 989 00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:38,200 Speaker 26: a alright job going out there. 990 00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:41,080 Speaker 12: I guess to say my body's feeling. Teams league, are 991 00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:42,719 Speaker 12: you still cool for answers right now? 992 00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:46,960 Speaker 26: Now? Like the ancest is in the locker room, we 993 00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:50,480 Speaker 26: just gotta put games together through I mean tough loss. 994 00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:53,200 Speaker 26: We just didn't make the plays that we needed to make. 995 00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:56,920 Speaker 26: My offense that could have put us in a position 996 00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:59,879 Speaker 26: to win. Too many penalties put us back. We had, 997 00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:02,680 Speaker 26: you know, especial team issue. It was Parker trail that 998 00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:05,239 Speaker 26: got called back field good that got caught back. 999 00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:06,239 Speaker 3: I mean, you win those games. 1000 00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:09,840 Speaker 15: Win that game before you gonna have those come to miliks. 1001 00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:12,399 Speaker 15: Who rookie, how important was it for you to show 1002 00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:14,439 Speaker 15: the toughness of the great to be able to play 1003 00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:16,959 Speaker 15: through the hip and the groin, to play the full game. 1004 00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:19,840 Speaker 15: So a a lot of guys might won't under that, 1005 00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:22,800 Speaker 15: but your dog and and j all that was important 1006 00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:22,960 Speaker 15: to you. 1007 00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:26,000 Speaker 12: I mean my team needs me. I mean they need me, 1008 00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:26,799 Speaker 12: They need me out there. 1009 00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:29,200 Speaker 26: So I wanted to put my body in the line, 1010 00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:31,359 Speaker 26: and I'm wanting to show that that I care about 1011 00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:33,160 Speaker 26: the team. I'm gonna put my body on the line 1012 00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:37,239 Speaker 26: for my teammates and like I said, just try to 1013 00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:39,280 Speaker 26: try to get a win and try to put wins 1014 00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:40,920 Speaker 26: on tape. Try to show my team that I'm here 1015 00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:43,200 Speaker 26: to play a high level. 1016 00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:46,640 Speaker 24: Like another another game where you're not a big. 1017 00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:47,520 Speaker 12: Part of the offense field. 1018 00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:48,040 Speaker 21: Fourth quarter? 1019 00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:50,200 Speaker 12: Is there anything scheme wise that. 1020 00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:50,840 Speaker 28: Could have been different? 1021 00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:52,799 Speaker 26: I mean we had players in the first half to 1022 00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:55,720 Speaker 26: give me the ball, you know, we just the defense 1023 00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:57,880 Speaker 26: had a good you know, operational what they want to 1024 00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:02,239 Speaker 26: do and those type of formation. So you know, jud 1025 00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:04,720 Speaker 26: has to from his mind frame, you know, from practice. 1026 00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:06,160 Speaker 26: You know, he getting to get in a look all week. 1027 00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:08,120 Speaker 26: If that look out you know, like they're and they 1028 00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:11,120 Speaker 26: playing different, look, he gotta go somewhere else. So I 1029 00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:13,640 Speaker 26: can't can't be mad that how the game went. I mean, 1030 00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:15,040 Speaker 26: we call plays for me to get the ball, just 1031 00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:16,439 Speaker 26: they end up in my hands o the time. 1032 00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:19,040 Speaker 24: Why do you think mistakes keep happening the shoot you 1033 00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:19,360 Speaker 24: guys do? 1034 00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:20,920 Speaker 2: Uh? 1035 00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:23,759 Speaker 26: I don't know how you want me to answer that. 1036 00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:28,400 Speaker 26: I mean that's just that's just football, I guess, or 1037 00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:30,319 Speaker 26: just the New York Giants this year. 1038 00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:35,200 Speaker 12: How are you feeling physically? App physically? 1039 00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:37,320 Speaker 5: Uh? 1040 00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:41,919 Speaker 26: Sure, hurting, but we get through the week. 1041 00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:42,920 Speaker 9: Try to get my body back. 1042 00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:45,640 Speaker 13: Help you did you what about the kid flexer or 1043 00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:46,120 Speaker 13: look like that? 1044 00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:47,720 Speaker 12: You give maybe your arm or. 1045 00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:50,239 Speaker 9: Something after the Yuh yeah, my hip, diet your point, Yeah, 1046 00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:50,680 Speaker 9: my hip. 1047 00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:53,080 Speaker 12: What about Flint League the ball as well? 1048 00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:58,160 Speaker 26: Uh, I don't know, lost for words, I don't know 1049 00:46:58,160 --> 00:46:58,520 Speaker 26: about that. 1050 00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:05,399 Speaker 14: One Rea coming in league. But just such a couple 1051 00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:06,960 Speaker 14: of targets for you in that first half. Again, how 1052 00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,080 Speaker 14: do you feel about your production out there today? 1053 00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:11,879 Speaker 26: Well, I mean we, like I said before, we called 1054 00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:13,279 Speaker 26: a couple of plays for me to get the ball, 1055 00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:16,720 Speaker 26: just formation and the defense didn't have a The defense 1056 00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:18,799 Speaker 26: did a good scheme of just playing uh the look. 1057 00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:20,720 Speaker 26: So I didn't get the targets in the first half. 1058 00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:24,239 Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, that's that's football. All the mistakes I was 1059 00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:25,240 Speaker 12: asking about you. 1060 00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:26,120 Speaker 11: You said the football. 1061 00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:27,920 Speaker 12: What what do you mean by that? 1062 00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:28,360 Speaker 3: Exactly? 1063 00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:30,080 Speaker 9: Just mistakes happened when you play the game? 1064 00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:30,279 Speaker 13: Is that? 1065 00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:32,239 Speaker 26: I mean, if all the living people not on the 1066 00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:34,000 Speaker 26: same page and the sikes happened, it was football. 1067 00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:34,960 Speaker 9: All eleven gotta be on. 1068 00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:35,480 Speaker 3: The same page. 1069 00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:38,200 Speaker 12: If not, stuff like that doesn't gonna happen. Like, what 1070 00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:39,520 Speaker 12: do you I should think about it? 1071 00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:40,200 Speaker 3: As a player? 1072 00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:40,680 Speaker 19: Uh? 1073 00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:44,840 Speaker 27: The plane flew over the ctadium before the games hits uh. 1074 00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:45,520 Speaker 12: Plutched the ownership to. 1075 00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:50,839 Speaker 19: Fix this dumclster fire was huh, how there was a. 1076 00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:53,080 Speaker 4: Plane that flew over the stadium for the game to 1077 00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:57,240 Speaker 4: mister Barron, police fixed this, dumblester fire, How do you, as. 1078 00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:58,440 Speaker 12: A player, like, what do you make of that? 1079 00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:04,759 Speaker 26: I am paid for the plane? 1080 00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:06,359 Speaker 2: Hey? 1081 00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:08,319 Speaker 1: Look, and and all these players are gonna answer this 1082 00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:10,399 Speaker 1: thing the right way. No nobody cares about the plane. 1083 00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:13,200 Speaker 1: The guys are worried about losing a game. And that's 1084 00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:14,680 Speaker 1: the only way you can react to something like that. 1085 00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:17,399 Speaker 1: I don't think anyone and Bob said this before, and 1086 00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:19,640 Speaker 1: I don't want to address this again because it's there's 1087 00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:21,799 Speaker 1: nothing else to say about it. No one's happy at 1088 00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:24,799 Speaker 1: two and eleven, all right, No one's happy that the 1089 00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:27,600 Speaker 1: team has lost all these games. That's the problem. The 1090 00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:29,400 Speaker 1: problem is the record of two and eleven. The problem 1091 00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:31,440 Speaker 1: isn't that there was some guy that paid for a 1092 00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:33,840 Speaker 1: benner on a plane. The problem is that the team's 1093 00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:35,440 Speaker 1: record is two and eleven. And that's what you need 1094 00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:37,000 Speaker 1: to figure out here, and that's what needs to be 1095 00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:38,120 Speaker 1: addressed after these games. 1096 00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:40,480 Speaker 5: Can you be writers ask good questions? 1097 00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:43,279 Speaker 1: I mean, like, you know, holod lo, Look, I get it, 1098 00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:46,480 Speaker 1: it happened. That's the big National. I'm sure older editors 1099 00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:48,880 Speaker 1: have told these guys to ask that question in. 1100 00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:49,520 Speaker 2: Locker room. 1101 00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:55,160 Speaker 1: Works, Paul. Yeah, the editors are absolutely telling these guys. 1102 00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:57,400 Speaker 1: You're in the newspaper business. That's why I went to 1103 00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:01,120 Speaker 1: you for that. The editors tell the guys, you need 1104 00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:03,040 Speaker 1: to get that that's gonna be on the back page 1105 00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:05,360 Speaker 1: of the papers tomorrow. They need to have quotes about it, 1106 00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:07,160 Speaker 1: so they tell their reporters to ask the question. 1107 00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:08,280 Speaker 2: That's the way it works. 1108 00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:11,800 Speaker 1: As annoying as it might be for a player, that 1109 00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:14,120 Speaker 1: they're just doing their job, but the players have responded correctly. 1110 00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:19,280 Speaker 2: Look, he said, I have nothing to say about that. 1111 00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:19,839 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what he said. 1112 00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:21,479 Speaker 2: It's fine. Yeah. 1113 00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:26,160 Speaker 16: Sometimes you know, people are just in it to uh, 1114 00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:29,000 Speaker 16: to stoke the fires, and it happens. The idea is 1115 00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:30,880 Speaker 16: that you don't give them anything that they can stoke 1116 00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:31,359 Speaker 16: fires too. 1117 00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:33,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. The problem is that you're the problem is that 1118 00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:34,120 Speaker 2: you're two at eleven. 1119 00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:38,280 Speaker 16: Right, and if you were eleven and two that wouldn't 1120 00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:42,160 Speaker 16: be happening for sure. When correct, when to be honest, when. 1121 00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:44,799 Speaker 1: Correct, And that's what John Marris concerned about to He's 1122 00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:48,640 Speaker 1: concerned about absolutely for your office, industrial and residential Movie 1123 00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:51,840 Speaker 1: Needs Trust Clancy Relocation and Logistics, the official movie and 1124 00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:55,000 Speaker 1: relocation part of the New York Giants. Visit Clancy Moving 1125 00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:58,480 Speaker 1: dot com. All right, quick time out. When we return, 1126 00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:00,359 Speaker 1: we'll take a look at the stats that a whole 1127 00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:01,759 Speaker 1: lot more. Will take your calls at eight to eight, eight 1128 00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:03,640 Speaker 1: oh eight, one zero one nine. We'll be back with 1129 00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:04,120 Speaker 1: more after this. 1130 00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:08,120 Speaker 6: You are listening to Giants Extra Point on the Bobs 1131 00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:12,080 Speaker 6: Discount Furniture Wfan Giants Radio Network. 1132 00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:13,680 Speaker 12: This is Tyrone Tracy Jr. 1133 00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:16,200 Speaker 3: And you're listening to the radio home of Big Blue the. 1134 00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:19,560 Speaker 29: Fan, WFAN and Wfan FM, New York. 1135 00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:22,759 Speaker 1: We're back here on Giants Extra Point. Tonight's stats are 1136 00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:24,960 Speaker 1: brought to you by the Archdiocese of New York. Learn 1137 00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:29,440 Speaker 1: more at Inner City NYC dot or. Giants actually outgained 1138 00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:31,520 Speaker 1: the Saints in this game three hundred and twenty five 1139 00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:35,080 Speaker 1: yards to two hundred and ninety two Saints with two 1140 00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:38,520 Speaker 1: more first downs Giants five of nineteen on third downs 1141 00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:41,080 Speaker 1: Saints five of fifteen. A lot of those Giant conversions 1142 00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:43,880 Speaker 1: coming on those two late drives to get those late scores. 1143 00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:46,440 Speaker 1: Giants just one of three scoring touchdowns on the red zone. 1144 00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:48,840 Speaker 1: The Saints two of two. That was a big difference 1145 00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:51,240 Speaker 1: in this game. As I mentioned earlier, the turnover margin 1146 00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:54,440 Speaker 1: remains even the Giants still have not won the turnover 1147 00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:57,560 Speaker 1: battle on any game. Both quarterbacks won interception, neither team 1148 00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:01,319 Speaker 1: with a fumble loss. In this particular game, the Giants defensively, 1149 00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:03,359 Speaker 1: they got their first interception of the year from Trey 1150 00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:05,359 Speaker 1: a second interception of the year, first one since Week 1151 00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:07,000 Speaker 1: one by Trey Hawkins. 1152 00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:07,640 Speaker 2: In this game. 1153 00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:10,680 Speaker 1: Giants did finish the game with two sacks won by 1154 00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:13,319 Speaker 1: Brian Burns won by Caveon Thibodeaux. Two sacks for the 1155 00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:17,439 Speaker 1: Saints as well. Caylen Saunders and Brian Breze, who also 1156 00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:20,520 Speaker 1: had that blocked field goal at the end of the 1157 00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:23,040 Speaker 1: game individually for the Giants, drew lock twenty one to 1158 00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:25,520 Speaker 1: forty nine two hundred and twenty seven yards in an interception. 1159 00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:27,879 Speaker 1: He also ran a five times or fifty nine yards 1160 00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:30,920 Speaker 1: as scrambling as turned out to be a really effective 1161 00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:33,759 Speaker 1: and impactful part of his game. Giants struggled to get 1162 00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:35,279 Speaker 1: anything going on the ground. The Saints w we are 1163 00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:37,400 Speaker 1: really jamming up that line of scrimmage, not allowing the 1164 00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:40,480 Speaker 1: run game to get going. Tyrone Tracy sixteen carries forty 1165 00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:42,160 Speaker 1: five yards just under three yards of pop. 1166 00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:43,000 Speaker 2: He had a touchdown. 1167 00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:47,759 Speaker 1: He also tied or was second to Wondo Robinson with 1168 00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:50,680 Speaker 1: ten targets five catches thirty eight yards. He was tied 1169 00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:52,840 Speaker 1: with Neighbors with ten targets. He had five catches for 1170 00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:55,840 Speaker 1: seventy nine yards. Robinson four catches thirty eight yards. Daniel 1171 00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:58,440 Speaker 1: Bellinger stepping in for Theo Johnson, nice little game out 1172 00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:00,880 Speaker 1: of him. Five catches forty five five yards, two for 1173 00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:03,880 Speaker 1: twenty seven for Darius Slayton, Jaylen High a pair of 1174 00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:05,320 Speaker 1: targets with no catches. 1175 00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:06,879 Speaker 2: Jimmy Gillen played a heck of a game. 1176 00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:09,920 Speaker 1: Eight punts two hundred ninety nine yards thirty seven and 1177 00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:12,440 Speaker 1: a half average, four inside the twenty and two inside 1178 00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:14,480 Speaker 1: to ten. Really nice job by jim My gill one 1179 00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:17,120 Speaker 1: inside the five, trying to pin the Saints back on 1180 00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:19,600 Speaker 1: a lot of those punts. A Smith mars Set had 1181 00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:21,879 Speaker 1: that punt return for a touchdown that got called back 1182 00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:24,760 Speaker 1: because of a holding penalty. Otherwise he had five returns 1183 00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:27,800 Speaker 1: for forty six yards for the Saints, twenty for thirty 1184 00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:30,040 Speaker 1: one for car two hundred nineteen yards of touchdown and 1185 00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:33,000 Speaker 1: a pick Alvin Kamar seventeen rushes forty four yards along 1186 00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:36,359 Speaker 1: of sixteen KENJ. Miller ten rushes thirty two yards and 1187 00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:40,160 Speaker 1: a long of nine Alvin Kamara five catches thirty five yards, 1188 00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:44,120 Speaker 1: Marcuez Valdez Scanting four catches fifty one yards, four catches 1189 00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:48,080 Speaker 1: fifty yards for Juwan Johnson Forster Moreau two catches forty 1190 00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:50,239 Speaker 1: yards including a really nice one handed catch over the middle. 1191 00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:52,279 Speaker 1: Jamal Williams two catches for ten yards, one catch, a 1192 00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:56,440 Speaker 1: piet for Cedric Wilson, Holker and Austin. Seven punts for 1193 00:52:56,560 --> 00:53:00,840 Speaker 1: Hayball thirty five yard net. And that did it, folks. 1194 00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:04,400 Speaker 1: A closely contested game from a statistical category standpoint, and 1195 00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:08,120 Speaker 1: it's showed in the score with the Giants with the 1196 00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:11,000 Speaker 1: potential game tying thirty five yard field will from Graham 1197 00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:14,000 Speaker 1: gonna block with under ten seconds to go by Brian Brazey, 1198 00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:18,680 Speaker 1: and they fall to the Saints fourteen to eleven. Please 1199 00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:20,960 Speaker 1: stick with us if you're listening on our local flagstip 1200 00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:24,279 Speaker 1: station WFAN here in New York. But for now it's 1201 00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:27,360 Speaker 1: time to say goodbye to the affiliates across the country. 1202 00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:30,120 Speaker 1: On the Giants Radio network Our next broadcast will be 1203 00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:32,400 Speaker 1: next Sunday when the Giants hoster the second second of 1204 00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:35,839 Speaker 1: home game against the Baltimore Ravens. Pregame show begins at 1205 00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:39,240 Speaker 1: noon across our network. Thanks for listening to us today. 1206 00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:41,439 Speaker 1: For further cover, stay tuned The Big Book Kickoff live 1207 00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:45,680 Speaker 1: every week down Giants dot Com and The Giants app Monday. 1208 00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:49,040 Speaker 2: Through Friday at twelve thirty for our entire team. I'm 1209 00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:50,840 Speaker 2: johns Well. Thanks for being with us today. 1210 00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:55,120 Speaker 1: We'll see you next week on the Pop Discount Furniture WFN. 1211 00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:55,880 Speaker 2: Giants Radio Network. 1212 00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:01,719 Speaker 1: But we're not done right here on WFN in New York, 1213 00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:04,400 Speaker 1: Jonathan Casias and Paul Theatino will take your calls the 1214 00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:05,799 Speaker 1: rest of the way at eight eight eight eight oh 1215 00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:07,880 Speaker 1: eight one zero one nine eight eight eight eight oh 1216 00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:11,520 Speaker 1: eight one zero one nine. More sound from the locker 1217 00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:13,760 Speaker 1: room as well again the Giants fault to the Saints. 1218 00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:24,719 Speaker 1: We'll be back with more when we return. 1219 00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:29,280 Speaker 25: This is Graham GNO and you're listening to the radio 1220 00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:31,960 Speaker 25: home of Big Blue the Fan, w f A n 1221 00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:34,439 Speaker 25: and w f A n f M, New York. 1222 00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:42,399 Speaker 3: Lock Back to throw steps up, Who's Gonna Run with Him? 1223 00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:45,160 Speaker 8: Locked gears to his right for midfield curse down of 1224 00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:47,200 Speaker 8: more down the right sideline. 1225 00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:50,880 Speaker 3: And shoulder out of bounds at the thirty. 1226 00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:53,920 Speaker 8: Five yard line for the dream. 1227 00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:55,640 Speaker 12: The dream stays alive. 1228 00:54:56,080 --> 00:55:01,760 Speaker 8: Giants trail fourteen to eleven. N this seven game losing streak, 1229 00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:05,959 Speaker 8: lock back and throws, sets delivers at white neighbors, bakes 1230 00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:08,320 Speaker 8: the catch, spins out of the tackle. He's to the twenty, 1231 00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:11,279 Speaker 8: breaks to his left to the fifteen and tackle then 1232 00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:14,840 Speaker 8: the thirteen yard line thirty seconds to go. Eight of 1233 00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:17,960 Speaker 8: twenty two, which is a thirty five yarder middle of 1234 00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:21,120 Speaker 8: the field, Gill in the hole, Prieder to snap it 1235 00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:23,319 Speaker 8: with eleven seconds to go to tie the game at 1236 00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:27,080 Speaker 8: the fourteen stap is good kick on its way and 1237 00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:28,480 Speaker 8: is partially blocked. 1238 00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:32,160 Speaker 3: Partially blocked Saints. 1239 00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:47,400 Speaker 8: With eight seconds remaining, New Orleans blocks a thirty five 1240 00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:51,560 Speaker 8: yard field goal with eight seconds to go that would 1241 00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:52,359 Speaker 8: have tied. 1242 00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:57,440 Speaker 1: The game, and that blocked field goal was the turning 1243 00:55:57,440 --> 00:55:59,480 Speaker 1: point of the game. Listened to Boomer and ge on 1244 00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:02,840 Speaker 1: Wi tomorrow morning in the nine am hour for the 1245 00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:05,359 Speaker 1: Giants Turning Point contest. The first crad call it a name, 1246 00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:08,000 Speaker 1: the game's turning point. We'll win two tickets to an 1247 00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:11,239 Speaker 1: upcoming Giants phone game. We're back here on Giants Extra point. 1248 00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:16,480 Speaker 1: Giants lose the Saints fourteen to eleven. Jonathan Casias, Paul Tatino, 1249 00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:19,600 Speaker 1: and Paul We had Bob talking about that call a 1250 00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:21,799 Speaker 1: little bit earlier in the pregame show, and you know 1251 00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:26,040 Speaker 1: he has that little gasp or chuckle of disbelief just 1252 00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:29,040 Speaker 1: because it's this team has done an amazing job this year, 1253 00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:32,200 Speaker 1: even in their close games, of figuring out a way 1254 00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:39,200 Speaker 1: to make mistakes in the biggest spots, whether it's penalties, drops, interceptions, 1255 00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:45,239 Speaker 1: block kicks, missed field goals, whatever, two point conversions go 1256 00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:47,360 Speaker 1: down the list, fumbles in the red zone, all the 1257 00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:50,640 Speaker 1: red zone turnovers, all that stuff. They just keep figuring 1258 00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:52,080 Speaker 1: out a way to come up short, even in the 1259 00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:54,359 Speaker 1: games where they fight and they play relatively well. 1260 00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:58,000 Speaker 2: You know, John, a few years ago they lost three. 1261 00:56:57,760 --> 00:57:01,560 Speaker 16: Games on last second field goals, and I honestly thought 1262 00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:05,760 Speaker 16: that was about as unimaginable as I could ever witness. 1263 00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:11,040 Speaker 16: This has been even more unbelievable. I mean, look at 1264 00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:14,239 Speaker 16: tonight right now. You know, I'm BBK folks shameless plug 1265 00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:16,960 Speaker 16: for Big Blue Kickoff Live during the week at twelve 1266 00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:18,640 Speaker 16: thirty on Giants dot Com. 1267 00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:21,000 Speaker 2: I've come up with a word unclutch. 1268 00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:24,720 Speaker 16: Well, what did the Giants do today besides get a 1269 00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:28,120 Speaker 16: field goal blocked in the final seconds, They get a 1270 00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:31,120 Speaker 16: punt return for a touchdown called back on a penalty, 1271 00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:35,360 Speaker 16: they get a field goal taken off the board because 1272 00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:38,640 Speaker 16: of a penalty, and then they get a field goal blocked. 1273 00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:44,120 Speaker 16: So you're talking about thirteen points right that were just 1274 00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:49,520 Speaker 16: sitting there at their disposal, and somehow those points never 1275 00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:53,080 Speaker 16: registered on the scoreboard. Well, I don't think you have 1276 00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:55,240 Speaker 16: to be a math genius, Jonathan. 1277 00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:57,240 Speaker 2: I'm sure you'll second me with this. 1278 00:57:57,960 --> 00:58:02,440 Speaker 16: Any team that is going to be giving away a 1279 00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:05,040 Speaker 16: thirteen point handicap is in big trouble that day. 1280 00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:06,840 Speaker 5: Absolutely absolutely. 1281 00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:09,520 Speaker 1: But like and by the way, after thirteen penalties last week, 1282 00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:11,520 Speaker 1: twelve penalties for one hundred and twelve yards this week, 1283 00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:12,280 Speaker 1: you can't have that either. 1284 00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:17,200 Speaker 5: Twenty five penalties in two weeks. Too many, big number, 1285 00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:20,040 Speaker 5: you know, And you know this week I wouldn't say 1286 00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:22,080 Speaker 5: it's like more excused with him last week. I just 1287 00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:24,680 Speaker 5: said it's a lot of moving pieces this week, A 1288 00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:26,120 Speaker 5: lot of guys in and out the line up, a 1289 00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:26,840 Speaker 5: lot of young guys. 1290 00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:28,240 Speaker 2: No, you're right about that one hundred percent. 1291 00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:30,920 Speaker 1: Emily Neighbors reference that bunch of new guys playing with 1292 00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:33,200 Speaker 1: each other are not not used to playing next to 1293 00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:35,400 Speaker 1: all these guys, So you're gonna have some, you know, 1294 00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:37,240 Speaker 1: miscommunication and incongruity. 1295 00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:40,480 Speaker 16: Really, if you want to hang your hat on something 1296 00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:44,360 Speaker 16: really good and quite frankly, Slayton talked about it, Hawkins 1297 00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:46,120 Speaker 16: talked about it, Burns talked about it. 1298 00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:46,840 Speaker 3: After the game. 1299 00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:50,240 Speaker 16: They got to Derek Carr for two sacks, which is 1300 00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:52,480 Speaker 16: not easy to do because of how he gets rid 1301 00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:55,200 Speaker 16: of the ball so quickly. It is not easy to 1302 00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:59,120 Speaker 16: hold Alvin Kamara to under fifty yards rushing in the game. 1303 00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:03,720 Speaker 16: And even though the Saints do not have their full 1304 00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:08,120 Speaker 16: complement of wide receivers, you know, you hold another NFL 1305 00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:12,160 Speaker 16: team to fourteen points in most weeks, you're going to 1306 00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:12,760 Speaker 16: win the game. 1307 00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:16,920 Speaker 30: And think about this too. The Giants defense got the 1308 00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:22,280 Speaker 30: ball back with two three and outs inside the final 1309 00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:25,960 Speaker 30: four minutes of the fourth quarter to give the offense 1310 00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:30,080 Speaker 30: two opportunities to at least tie the game. 1311 00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:34,760 Speaker 2: Those are all very big positives that ultimately they could 1312 00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:35,680 Speaker 2: not take advantage of. 1313 00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:38,600 Speaker 1: Absolutely. Well, let's listen to Graham Gonnell after the game. 1314 00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:40,479 Speaker 1: He of course was the kicker that had his field 1315 00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:41,000 Speaker 1: goal block late. 1316 00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:43,320 Speaker 12: You see what happens. 1317 00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:43,560 Speaker 1: They want to kick. 1318 00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:47,440 Speaker 12: I saw it on the phone already. I was executed 1319 00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:47,760 Speaker 12: it well. 1320 00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:50,920 Speaker 25: When that's a executed as well as they did as 1321 00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:54,080 Speaker 25: hard to stop. So I don't think you can blame 1322 00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:56,240 Speaker 25: our guys at all on that. They just they made 1323 00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:58,240 Speaker 25: a good play. You know, they got great athletes on 1324 00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:01,160 Speaker 25: their side as well. It felt really good off my 1325 01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:02,800 Speaker 25: foot that I hit a good ball. But you know, 1326 01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:04,320 Speaker 25: that's just a it's a tough play to stop. 1327 01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:07,000 Speaker 15: Was it more of a penetration that they got or height? 1328 01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:08,720 Speaker 15: Did somebody just get a hand up? 1329 01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:12,080 Speaker 25: They just I mean, did the pushing our line down 1330 01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:14,160 Speaker 25: and same thing we did in Seattle. You know, it's 1331 01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:18,000 Speaker 25: a it's a tough play to stop. Yeah, I mean 1332 01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:20,520 Speaker 25: there's there's really nothing much to it. They just they 1333 01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:21,360 Speaker 25: made a really good play. 1334 01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:24,240 Speaker 12: Is that something that you prepare for though? I mean 1335 01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:27,360 Speaker 12: it doesn't really not nothing I can control. 1336 01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:27,640 Speaker 19: You know. 1337 01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:31,360 Speaker 25: I just controlled hitting a good ball and getting good 1338 01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:34,080 Speaker 25: elevation on it, and I feel like I did I 1339 01:00:34,160 --> 01:00:34,800 Speaker 25: hit a good kick. 1340 01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:37,480 Speaker 12: What goes through your mind when you realize what happened? 1341 01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:42,600 Speaker 25: Nothing, I mean, it's it's a block kick. I mean, 1342 01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:46,120 Speaker 25: it sucks. Nothing I can do to control that, you know, 1343 01:00:46,240 --> 01:00:48,440 Speaker 25: it's it's just it's frustrating. I think it's frustrating for 1344 01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:51,880 Speaker 25: our team, especially uh, you know, working so hard to 1345 01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:54,600 Speaker 25: come back like that. So many guys had uh had 1346 01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:57,160 Speaker 25: big plays and and you know, we worked really hard 1347 01:00:57,200 --> 01:00:58,280 Speaker 25: at coming back and. 1348 01:00:58,200 --> 01:00:59,960 Speaker 12: It's it's tough to have a game event that way. 1349 01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:02,200 Speaker 3: So you're happy tolevation. 1350 01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:05,360 Speaker 12: Yeah, it was. It was Uh, it was still. 1351 01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:07,960 Speaker 25: Elevating when when he blocked it, he got his thumb 1352 01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:10,480 Speaker 25: on it. Here, it was close. It's a yeah. 1353 01:01:10,520 --> 01:01:11,720 Speaker 12: I mean it's one of those They just made it 1354 01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:14,439 Speaker 12: a really good play and I wish they hadn't more. 1355 01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:19,840 Speaker 25: Yeah, that was frustrating. I guess the officials said that 1356 01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:21,600 Speaker 25: the ball was still in the air when the flag 1357 01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:24,280 Speaker 25: was thrown, which I find that harder video because I 1358 01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:26,480 Speaker 25: was already slapping hands with the guys, you know, and 1359 01:01:26,520 --> 01:01:29,200 Speaker 25: when they threw the flag. So I'll have to see 1360 01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:31,600 Speaker 25: it on film. I could be wrong, but that's very 1361 01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:32,360 Speaker 25: very hard to believe. 1362 01:01:32,920 --> 01:01:35,480 Speaker 18: There are dramages that as a guy who's been around 1363 01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:38,080 Speaker 18: a lot of seasons does they have a Murphy's ball 1364 01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:41,360 Speaker 18: off field to this season, like somewhere somehow something wrong 1365 01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:41,760 Speaker 18: over again. 1366 01:01:42,560 --> 01:01:43,400 Speaker 12: I don't I don't know. 1367 01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:46,280 Speaker 25: I don't think you can think like that as an athlete. 1368 01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:47,920 Speaker 25: I mean, we just gotta make more plays than the 1369 01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:50,000 Speaker 25: other team and and start winning games. 1370 01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:53,920 Speaker 12: So you know, it's it's just the way it is. 1371 01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:58,000 Speaker 18: Early in the gee Dapes passed up on the chance 1372 01:01:58,080 --> 01:01:59,360 Speaker 18: for a fifty I think what would have been a 1373 01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:02,640 Speaker 18: fifty four year or was that sort of outside your 1374 01:02:02,720 --> 01:02:04,040 Speaker 18: line going in that direction? 1375 01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:06,440 Speaker 25: Our line is about fifty In the first half, I 1376 01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:10,880 Speaker 25: mean the uprice was shaken judging by like I was 1377 01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:11,800 Speaker 25: hidden in warm ups. 1378 01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:13,360 Speaker 12: It was just it was shade. 1379 01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:15,320 Speaker 25: I means sometimes of all blow left and then right, 1380 01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:19,600 Speaker 25: and it's just one of those meadowlands days. And I 1381 01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:22,040 Speaker 25: mean you could see it on some of the kicks 1382 01:02:22,040 --> 01:02:23,720 Speaker 25: that were out there today. I was having even the 1383 01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:25,320 Speaker 25: two that I made, I had to play the wind 1384 01:02:25,360 --> 01:02:28,200 Speaker 25: a bit and have it come back in. But we're 1385 01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:29,840 Speaker 25: getting a lot of movement on it. So I think, 1386 01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:32,720 Speaker 25: you know, it's just one of those decisions for where 1387 01:02:32,720 --> 01:02:35,640 Speaker 25: we're at in the game, you know, And that's that's 1388 01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:38,240 Speaker 25: just just the decision it made. 1389 01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:39,360 Speaker 12: Right before before the game. 1390 01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:42,080 Speaker 20: And if you're aware of a fan pull a banner 1391 01:02:42,120 --> 01:02:45,680 Speaker 20: over the stadium imploring John Erica fixed this clinical dumpster fire. 1392 01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:48,160 Speaker 12: Curious if the players had heard about that or not 1393 01:02:48,160 --> 01:02:50,000 Speaker 12: at all. What does your reaction to that? Family. 1394 01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:52,840 Speaker 25: I come to work every day just preparing to get better. 1395 01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:54,000 Speaker 25: So I'm sticking to that. 1396 01:02:55,640 --> 01:02:58,840 Speaker 2: So Fus, who's one of the great producers over that mesg. 1397 01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:02,040 Speaker 1: He's buddies with Rizzy being a Jersey guy and Rizzy 1398 01:03:02,080 --> 01:03:03,360 Speaker 1: being a burner Catholic guy. 1399 01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:05,360 Speaker 2: So he texted me, he said. 1400 01:03:05,640 --> 01:03:07,520 Speaker 1: Rizzi told him after the game he put the guys 1401 01:03:07,600 --> 01:03:10,920 Speaker 1: over sixty three thinking he wouldn't be too aggressive because 1402 01:03:10,920 --> 01:03:12,880 Speaker 1: of the earlier penalty, and that block is something they 1403 01:03:12,880 --> 01:03:14,200 Speaker 1: put it in practice on Friday. 1404 01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:17,200 Speaker 3: Well, there you go. 1405 01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:19,080 Speaker 1: So they had to block in and then they decided 1406 01:03:19,120 --> 01:03:21,480 Speaker 1: to do it try to do it over tubas because 1407 01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:23,640 Speaker 1: of the previous penalty. And it's funny, I didn't think 1408 01:03:23,680 --> 01:03:26,840 Speaker 1: about that part of the personal foul penalty, whether or 1409 01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:29,440 Speaker 1: not it happened after the field goal went through or not. 1410 01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:31,280 Speaker 1: We talked about whether or not we thought it was 1411 01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:32,320 Speaker 1: a personal foul the game. 1412 01:03:32,360 --> 01:03:34,800 Speaker 2: It was a late flag. Yeah, it was a late flag, 1413 01:03:34,840 --> 01:03:35,520 Speaker 2: so I don't know. 1414 01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:39,560 Speaker 1: I don't know if that if the slam happened before 1415 01:03:39,600 --> 01:03:41,560 Speaker 1: or after the kick went through the uprights, I don't 1416 01:03:41,560 --> 01:03:42,439 Speaker 1: know the answer to that question. 1417 01:03:42,480 --> 01:03:44,120 Speaker 2: I would have to look at the all twenty two 1418 01:03:43,720 --> 01:03:44,680 Speaker 2: to see that. 1419 01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:47,680 Speaker 16: And you may not even be able to see it potentially, 1420 01:03:47,680 --> 01:03:49,720 Speaker 16: depending upon if the old twenty two was from that 1421 01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:51,240 Speaker 16: end zone, you may not be able to see it. 1422 01:03:51,680 --> 01:03:54,080 Speaker 2: The sideline you should be able to see it though, possibly, 1423 01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:56,560 Speaker 2: but you won't be to see the ball. Yeah, it 1424 01:03:56,640 --> 01:03:57,960 Speaker 2: might be tough so all to take a look. 1425 01:03:58,080 --> 01:03:59,560 Speaker 5: I don't know if you guys remember, but a few 1426 01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:02,960 Speaker 5: years I think when I was playing, uh, it was 1427 01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:06,920 Speaker 5: an issue with like guys going up and getting undercut 1428 01:04:07,360 --> 01:04:11,040 Speaker 5: a lot in that situation. So I don't know exactly 1429 01:04:11,120 --> 01:04:14,000 Speaker 5: if they, you know, put enough rule or something like 1430 01:04:14,040 --> 01:04:18,240 Speaker 5: that that you know stops offensive lineman from cutting out 1431 01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:19,600 Speaker 5: the guy's legs. 1432 01:04:19,800 --> 01:04:22,000 Speaker 1: No, the rule is that the defensive player, if you're 1433 01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:25,440 Speaker 1: going to try to jump over the offensive player, specifically 1434 01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:28,840 Speaker 1: the center, you're not allowed to make any contact with 1435 01:04:28,880 --> 01:04:31,560 Speaker 1: the with the walker. And that's why Brazil's that's why 1436 01:04:31,600 --> 01:04:33,880 Speaker 1: you push the guy down right to give them clear 1437 01:04:33,880 --> 01:04:36,520 Speaker 1: it's in Brazil. Even at three hundred and fifteen pounds 1438 01:04:36,600 --> 01:04:37,560 Speaker 1: or whatever he is that I want to get the 1439 01:04:37,600 --> 01:04:39,920 Speaker 1: exact number to give them, to give that big fella 1440 01:04:40,320 --> 01:04:41,280 Speaker 1: his proper credit. 1441 01:04:41,560 --> 01:04:43,760 Speaker 2: Three hundred and five pounds at six y five. You 1442 01:04:43,800 --> 01:04:44,600 Speaker 2: made a good point. 1443 01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:48,640 Speaker 1: Didn't quite get that second ju but his hands only 1444 01:04:48,640 --> 01:04:50,439 Speaker 1: got high enough to get that kick. 1445 01:04:50,440 --> 01:04:51,800 Speaker 2: It was a heck of an athletic play by a 1446 01:04:51,840 --> 01:04:52,520 Speaker 2: defensive tackle. 1447 01:04:54,040 --> 01:04:56,439 Speaker 5: Yeah, great execution. You know that. They said it too. 1448 01:04:56,720 --> 01:04:59,800 Speaker 5: The Giants basically did that play up in Seattle won 1449 01:04:59,840 --> 01:05:00,280 Speaker 5: the game. 1450 01:05:00,320 --> 01:05:05,800 Speaker 1: And that was I said, sitting so like pounds, yes, 1451 01:05:06,160 --> 01:05:06,600 Speaker 1: oh yeah. 1452 01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:10,120 Speaker 5: And Breezy made it. I mean he made that first 1453 01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:12,080 Speaker 5: jump clean and then the second jump. If you watch 1454 01:05:12,120 --> 01:05:14,919 Speaker 5: it again, he's like he tried it. It's falling down, 1455 01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:16,960 Speaker 5: but a great effort because he still was you know, 1456 01:05:17,040 --> 01:05:19,040 Speaker 5: we had to wear a thought to raise his hand 1457 01:05:19,120 --> 01:05:21,560 Speaker 5: up in the right spot. It's not easy because a 1458 01:05:21,560 --> 01:05:24,320 Speaker 5: lot of guys they be in the right spot, but 1459 01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:26,880 Speaker 5: their hand placement is off a little bit and it 1460 01:05:26,920 --> 01:05:29,600 Speaker 5: goes right past them. It happens almost every play. 1461 01:05:29,480 --> 01:05:31,360 Speaker 2: I mean, he barely got it with like the side of. 1462 01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:34,000 Speaker 5: His happens almost every play ball with the punk blocks 1463 01:05:34,040 --> 01:05:37,040 Speaker 5: all those situations, A lot of guys are right there, 1464 01:05:37,680 --> 01:05:39,680 Speaker 5: but it's not easy to get that ball off that 1465 01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:40,400 Speaker 5: kicker's foot. 1466 01:05:40,680 --> 01:05:40,880 Speaker 2: You know. 1467 01:05:40,960 --> 01:05:43,360 Speaker 16: This was just another example though, of how much these 1468 01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:46,400 Speaker 16: guys care, because you know, the Giants come back in 1469 01:05:46,440 --> 01:05:48,560 Speaker 16: the fourth quarter and I was down there on the 1470 01:05:48,560 --> 01:05:52,360 Speaker 16: sideline at that point during their last drive, and as 1471 01:05:52,360 --> 01:05:55,080 Speaker 16: they're moving the ball down the field, that entire bench 1472 01:05:55,760 --> 01:05:59,400 Speaker 16: was going bokers. They wanted this game in the worst 1473 01:05:59,400 --> 01:06:02,520 Speaker 16: way where he's descended to overtime. The fans who were 1474 01:06:02,560 --> 01:06:05,760 Speaker 16: still in the stands were going crazy. You would think 1475 01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:09,240 Speaker 16: that this team was still in contention in the standings 1476 01:06:09,280 --> 01:06:11,880 Speaker 16: the way that these people were so jacked up. And 1477 01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:16,000 Speaker 16: then when the kick is blocked, the deflation. You can't 1478 01:06:16,040 --> 01:06:20,520 Speaker 16: have that high and that low occur in that short 1479 01:06:20,600 --> 01:06:24,840 Speaker 16: period of time unless you really care. And I just 1480 01:06:24,880 --> 01:06:26,320 Speaker 16: want to throw it out there. And I know some 1481 01:06:26,320 --> 01:06:28,800 Speaker 16: people are going to say, well, it doesn't matter. Well, 1482 01:06:28,800 --> 01:06:32,280 Speaker 16: I think it does matter, because when this ownership and 1483 01:06:32,360 --> 01:06:35,720 Speaker 16: this front office is looking at these guys down the stretch, 1484 01:06:36,360 --> 01:06:39,600 Speaker 16: they want to see guys who care, who are going 1485 01:06:39,640 --> 01:06:42,400 Speaker 16: to put their best foot forward and give whatever it 1486 01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:43,080 Speaker 16: is that they have. 1487 01:06:43,400 --> 01:06:45,720 Speaker 1: And they did, and after a rough first half offensively, 1488 01:06:45,800 --> 01:06:48,160 Speaker 1: Drew Locke persevered had a couple of nice drives there 1489 01:06:48,160 --> 01:06:50,200 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter. One of the offensive players that 1490 01:06:50,240 --> 01:06:52,360 Speaker 1: helped out on those drives was Darius Slayton. He spoke 1491 01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:54,000 Speaker 1: to the media after the game as well, let's listen 1492 01:06:54,040 --> 01:06:54,760 Speaker 1: in I. 1493 01:06:54,680 --> 01:06:57,280 Speaker 15: Don't think I can imagine the frustration of having another 1494 01:06:57,440 --> 01:07:00,280 Speaker 15: that close game where you guys came down to within 1495 01:07:00,320 --> 01:07:02,160 Speaker 15: the score at the end and then couldn't get it done. 1496 01:07:02,680 --> 01:07:06,000 Speaker 12: Uh, in difficulty in digesting that? How hard is that 1497 01:07:06,120 --> 01:07:06,400 Speaker 12: right now? 1498 01:07:08,160 --> 01:07:08,440 Speaker 1: Uh? 1499 01:07:08,440 --> 01:07:09,000 Speaker 5: Pretty hard. 1500 01:07:11,200 --> 01:07:12,400 Speaker 12: It's a tough way to lose. 1501 01:07:14,040 --> 01:07:15,560 Speaker 5: Fought pretty hard, fought hard. 1502 01:07:15,440 --> 01:07:18,160 Speaker 29: As a team and scheme up. 1503 01:07:18,040 --> 01:07:20,520 Speaker 12: Short as difficult as it is. 1504 01:07:20,520 --> 01:07:21,800 Speaker 11: The points that were premium. 1505 01:07:22,160 --> 01:07:25,480 Speaker 15: Do you guys lose a touchdown on the returnment because 1506 01:07:25,480 --> 01:07:27,800 Speaker 15: of a penalty, You'll lose a field because of the 1507 01:07:27,920 --> 01:07:30,320 Speaker 15: kind of how much does that deflate you guys on 1508 01:07:30,440 --> 01:07:32,560 Speaker 15: the sideline when you see those points come on board. 1509 01:07:34,440 --> 01:07:37,040 Speaker 29: It's rough And I mean, obviously we have those thirteen points. 1510 01:07:37,080 --> 01:07:37,920 Speaker 5: It's not even to. 1511 01:07:37,960 --> 01:07:42,280 Speaker 29: Get in that predicament back the end, and uh, that 1512 01:07:42,360 --> 01:07:44,360 Speaker 29: kind of just seems something to try and you out something, 1513 01:07:44,920 --> 01:07:47,280 Speaker 29: we get something good to happen something bad, bad. 1514 01:07:47,800 --> 01:07:51,840 Speaker 12: I mean, I don't really uh known they had a 1515 01:07:51,840 --> 01:07:52,520 Speaker 12: way to describe it. 1516 01:07:52,800 --> 01:07:55,040 Speaker 15: But so many guys were injured, and so many guys 1517 01:07:55,040 --> 01:07:56,760 Speaker 15: had a step up from deep on the dep jot 1518 01:07:56,840 --> 01:08:01,040 Speaker 15: even practice squad guys. Drew Locke certainly did everything to Riley. 1519 01:08:01,240 --> 01:08:03,040 Speaker 15: You folks, what does that tell you about at least 1520 01:08:03,040 --> 01:08:03,840 Speaker 15: some of the guys. 1521 01:08:03,640 --> 01:08:04,280 Speaker 2: In the locker room. 1522 01:08:04,600 --> 01:08:05,400 Speaker 11: We have a lot of death. 1523 01:08:05,520 --> 01:08:06,960 Speaker 29: I had a lot of guys as fast as that 1524 01:08:06,960 --> 01:08:10,880 Speaker 29: are hungry, free opportunity, and they're ready to play. And uh, 1525 01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:12,640 Speaker 29: obviously on defense they played a really good game. They 1526 01:08:12,640 --> 01:08:15,200 Speaker 29: had a lot of guys playing on defense that haven't 1527 01:08:15,200 --> 01:08:15,840 Speaker 29: been playing. 1528 01:08:15,560 --> 01:08:17,719 Speaker 12: All year, and they played maybe one of our better. 1529 01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:20,680 Speaker 29: Different defensive performances in the year. So you know, just 1530 01:08:20,840 --> 01:08:24,759 Speaker 29: uh testament to those guys and their their ability to stay. 1531 01:08:24,600 --> 01:08:27,320 Speaker 18: Already, Darius, before the game of the plane was flowing 1532 01:08:27,439 --> 01:08:29,800 Speaker 18: through the stadium asking John Marraw to fix the quoe 1533 01:08:29,840 --> 01:08:30,800 Speaker 18: unquote dumpster fire. 1534 01:08:31,080 --> 01:08:33,080 Speaker 12: I'm curious if if the players were aware. 1535 01:08:32,800 --> 01:08:33,880 Speaker 11: Of that, but that it happened. 1536 01:08:34,320 --> 01:08:35,160 Speaker 9: I nah, I didn't see that. 1537 01:08:35,360 --> 01:08:36,479 Speaker 5: What's your reaction in general? 1538 01:08:36,520 --> 01:08:38,120 Speaker 27: And the family go to those links to to send 1539 01:08:38,160 --> 01:08:39,480 Speaker 27: a message to dealership. 1540 01:08:40,400 --> 01:08:43,840 Speaker 29: People have money and time to do stuff like that, 1541 01:08:44,080 --> 01:08:46,400 Speaker 29: so that's what they choose is what they choose to do. 1542 01:08:47,360 --> 01:08:48,920 Speaker 21: There's you've a you have a force, been a part 1543 01:08:48,960 --> 01:08:52,599 Speaker 21: of something not so great seasons here with the Giants. 1544 01:08:52,640 --> 01:08:55,080 Speaker 12: I mean, does this feel like a low point or 1545 01:08:55,160 --> 01:08:56,920 Speaker 12: below up below slow or not? 1546 01:08:59,280 --> 01:09:00,479 Speaker 29: I don't know if I was it at I mean 1547 01:09:00,760 --> 01:09:03,760 Speaker 29: this lost depth was tough, definitely hurt because you know, 1548 01:09:03,880 --> 01:09:06,240 Speaker 29: we thought hard to get back in and thought we're 1549 01:09:06,240 --> 01:09:08,240 Speaker 29: about to give our sanswers to ourselves. We thought we 1550 01:09:08,320 --> 01:09:11,240 Speaker 29: were about to give ourselves a chance to win in overtime, 1551 01:09:11,840 --> 01:09:13,559 Speaker 29: and obviously it didn't pan out that way. 1552 01:09:13,640 --> 01:09:17,679 Speaker 14: So yeah, as one of the leaders on this team, 1553 01:09:17,840 --> 01:09:19,439 Speaker 14: where do you go down to kind of help keep 1554 01:09:19,479 --> 01:09:20,680 Speaker 14: the locker room locked in during this. 1555 01:09:20,720 --> 01:09:21,759 Speaker 24: Final stretch of the season. 1556 01:09:23,800 --> 01:09:25,800 Speaker 29: Just encouraged guys to do at the end of today, fight, 1557 01:09:26,360 --> 01:09:29,479 Speaker 29: you know, show up, fight, compete and do your best 1558 01:09:29,520 --> 01:09:32,479 Speaker 29: to make plays and over these next four weeks. 1559 01:09:32,520 --> 01:09:33,679 Speaker 5: You know, so we're gonna aim. 1560 01:09:33,640 --> 01:09:35,080 Speaker 12: To do five years. 1561 01:09:36,400 --> 01:09:37,120 Speaker 6: What was the reaction? 1562 01:09:37,520 --> 01:09:39,280 Speaker 12: So it knows? Okay? 1563 01:09:39,880 --> 01:09:40,240 Speaker 5: Cool walk? 1564 01:09:41,680 --> 01:09:44,519 Speaker 12: Yeah, right, get back in that game. Yeah it was rough. 1565 01:09:44,640 --> 01:09:53,639 Speaker 21: You know, that's rough, is uh, you know, just back 1566 01:09:53,720 --> 01:09:56,160 Speaker 21: to your offense is struggling now with three different quarterbacks. 1567 01:09:56,640 --> 01:09:58,160 Speaker 12: Where do you guys kind of turn new for answers 1568 01:09:58,160 --> 01:09:59,360 Speaker 12: and last morning this season. 1569 01:10:00,880 --> 01:10:01,240 Speaker 5: Each other. 1570 01:10:01,560 --> 01:10:04,000 Speaker 29: You know, nobody's else, nobody's gonna come and make the plays. 1571 01:10:04,040 --> 01:10:07,080 Speaker 12: We gotta make the plays. We gotta run, catch through 1572 01:10:07,120 --> 01:10:11,400 Speaker 12: and block, you know, so I gotta be that better. 1573 01:10:12,160 --> 01:10:16,519 Speaker 18: That is for the fans calling for change, this kind 1574 01:10:16,520 --> 01:10:19,679 Speaker 18: of makes a your question, how does this get turned around? 1575 01:10:20,000 --> 01:10:23,080 Speaker 9: Like for somebody who's playing all these games, it's has 1576 01:10:23,120 --> 01:10:23,840 Speaker 9: been here for a while. 1577 01:10:23,880 --> 01:10:25,080 Speaker 12: How do you think this gets the game? 1578 01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:27,960 Speaker 3: I think it just gets turned around with. 1579 01:10:30,600 --> 01:10:31,120 Speaker 13: Better play. 1580 01:10:31,479 --> 01:10:32,519 Speaker 12: You know, on game day. 1581 01:10:33,920 --> 01:10:35,160 Speaker 5: You do a good job of preparing. 1582 01:10:35,240 --> 01:10:35,840 Speaker 28: You know, I think we. 1583 01:10:37,720 --> 01:10:39,479 Speaker 12: Obviously the position today. 1584 01:10:39,640 --> 01:10:41,799 Speaker 29: I think we've been in a position to win multiple 1585 01:10:41,840 --> 01:10:43,760 Speaker 29: games this year that we didn't win for whatever reason, 1586 01:10:44,280 --> 01:10:47,120 Speaker 29: and ultimately checking mind a way to close out these. 1587 01:10:47,000 --> 01:10:47,599 Speaker 13: Games and win them. 1588 01:10:49,680 --> 01:10:51,160 Speaker 2: That's Darius laying after the game. 1589 01:10:51,200 --> 01:10:53,559 Speaker 1: And look they made some plays down the stretch, Paul, 1590 01:10:53,600 --> 01:10:55,559 Speaker 1: and he made the point and the questions you asked 1591 01:10:55,600 --> 01:10:57,200 Speaker 1: him about it, and jac and I talked about this 1592 01:10:57,280 --> 01:11:00,920 Speaker 1: with Bob earlier in the postgame show, and I counted 1593 01:11:01,000 --> 01:11:03,519 Speaker 1: you were down to ten of your typical twenty two 1594 01:11:03,560 --> 01:11:06,120 Speaker 1: starters that the Giants have had over the course of 1595 01:11:06,240 --> 01:11:06,639 Speaker 1: this year. 1596 01:11:06,840 --> 01:11:09,360 Speaker 2: And it wasn't pretty at times. 1597 01:11:09,640 --> 01:11:11,679 Speaker 1: This wasn't a game you're sending into, you know, Canton 1598 01:11:11,760 --> 01:11:13,920 Speaker 1: to you know, replay at the Hall of Fame for 1599 01:11:14,120 --> 01:11:14,760 Speaker 1: people to watch. 1600 01:11:15,280 --> 01:11:16,360 Speaker 2: But they stuck with it. 1601 01:11:16,520 --> 01:11:19,200 Speaker 1: The defense slowed down aviank Kamar or something we didn't 1602 01:11:19,200 --> 01:11:22,000 Speaker 1: think was possible with everyone that was hurt up front 1603 01:11:22,120 --> 01:11:24,560 Speaker 1: in our in our pregame show. And then after a 1604 01:11:24,640 --> 01:11:26,720 Speaker 1: really rough three quarters, the offense put a couple of 1605 01:11:26,800 --> 01:11:29,120 Speaker 1: drives together to give themselves a chance to extend the 1606 01:11:29,160 --> 01:11:30,160 Speaker 1: game and put it into overtime. 1607 01:11:30,400 --> 01:11:33,479 Speaker 16: Second week in a row that Locke rallied this team 1608 01:11:33,560 --> 01:11:36,240 Speaker 16: in the fourth quarter and gave them a chance. And 1609 01:11:36,640 --> 01:11:40,200 Speaker 16: I think it's important to note that he took the 1610 01:11:40,280 --> 01:11:45,400 Speaker 16: two sacks, but thirteen quarterback hits registered today by the 1611 01:11:45,479 --> 01:11:47,320 Speaker 16: New Orleans Saints Andrew Locke. 1612 01:11:47,400 --> 01:11:48,800 Speaker 1: I thought a lot of that was his own doing, 1613 01:11:48,880 --> 01:11:51,240 Speaker 1: to be honest with you, I thought the protection was 1614 01:11:51,240 --> 01:11:52,920 Speaker 1: actually fairly decent over the course of the game. 1615 01:11:53,000 --> 01:11:53,559 Speaker 2: That was my opinion. 1616 01:11:53,560 --> 01:11:55,800 Speaker 1: At least I have to rewatch the game and watch 1617 01:11:55,800 --> 01:11:57,519 Speaker 1: it and all the better feel when I rewatch it. 1618 01:11:58,200 --> 01:11:58,599 Speaker 2: I didn't. 1619 01:11:58,920 --> 01:12:01,000 Speaker 1: There were a couple free early in the game on 1620 01:12:01,080 --> 01:12:03,080 Speaker 1: a couple of play actions, but I think for the 1621 01:12:03,160 --> 01:12:05,800 Speaker 1: most part the protection was okay. I could be wrong, though, 1622 01:12:06,520 --> 01:12:07,800 Speaker 1: I think we all need to look at it. 1623 01:12:08,280 --> 01:12:08,439 Speaker 19: We do. 1624 01:12:08,840 --> 01:12:10,120 Speaker 2: But but I will say this. 1625 01:12:12,080 --> 01:12:14,679 Speaker 16: Jew Locke is certainly earning a lot of toughness points 1626 01:12:14,720 --> 01:12:15,679 Speaker 16: over the last two weeks. 1627 01:12:15,760 --> 01:12:18,040 Speaker 2: Oh he's a gamer, no doubt that that. 1628 01:12:18,400 --> 01:12:20,439 Speaker 16: That is something that I don't think anybody here in 1629 01:12:20,479 --> 01:12:22,880 Speaker 16: New York knew because we hadn't really seen him before. 1630 01:12:23,400 --> 01:12:25,680 Speaker 16: And in the last two weeks he has shown that 1631 01:12:25,760 --> 01:12:29,160 Speaker 16: he will fight. He is gritty, and you know, never 1632 01:12:29,280 --> 01:12:30,080 Speaker 16: count the guy out. 1633 01:12:30,720 --> 01:12:30,880 Speaker 25: Now. 1634 01:12:31,240 --> 01:12:34,439 Speaker 16: We'd like to see more, you know, to get over 1635 01:12:34,479 --> 01:12:38,439 Speaker 16: the hump, but there are certain some good, good qualities 1636 01:12:38,479 --> 01:12:40,400 Speaker 16: about him that have come to the surface. 1637 01:12:40,680 --> 01:12:44,200 Speaker 5: I saw a mentally tough person out there today. You know, 1638 01:12:44,600 --> 01:12:48,160 Speaker 5: didn't look good. You know, the whole entire game a 1639 01:12:48,200 --> 01:12:51,120 Speaker 5: little radic early, especially you know in that first quarter 1640 01:12:51,200 --> 01:12:54,600 Speaker 5: starting oh of eight. You know, you can let that 1641 01:12:54,680 --> 01:12:56,559 Speaker 5: snowball on you and let it get out of control, 1642 01:12:57,160 --> 01:12:59,280 Speaker 5: but you know he got got a hold of it. 1643 01:13:00,439 --> 01:13:02,760 Speaker 5: You know, a lot of penalties offensively. You know that 1644 01:13:02,880 --> 01:13:06,240 Speaker 5: didn't go his way, but he battled, you know, and 1645 01:13:06,439 --> 01:13:09,200 Speaker 5: he used his legs again this week, and you know, 1646 01:13:09,280 --> 01:13:11,120 Speaker 5: I didn't know he was that mobile, you know, but 1647 01:13:11,240 --> 01:13:15,360 Speaker 5: he's you know, putting his body on the line, you know, 1648 01:13:15,520 --> 01:13:19,120 Speaker 5: going forward, making some really good clutch decisions. It was 1649 01:13:19,160 --> 01:13:21,519 Speaker 5: one I would like for him to get back. You know, 1650 01:13:21,600 --> 01:13:23,280 Speaker 5: he ran laterally and I think he could have just 1651 01:13:23,400 --> 01:13:26,400 Speaker 5: ran straight to get the first down. But besides that, 1652 01:13:26,520 --> 01:13:28,679 Speaker 5: man like he played tough man. He looked mentally tough. 1653 01:13:28,760 --> 01:13:31,439 Speaker 5: And you know when you look, you know, for the Giants, 1654 01:13:31,439 --> 01:13:33,360 Speaker 5: they got a lot of leaders out right now, you know, 1655 01:13:33,840 --> 01:13:37,000 Speaker 5: whether it's through free agency, whether it's through injuries, which 1656 01:13:37,120 --> 01:13:39,560 Speaker 5: a lot of guys have been banged up, especially in 1657 01:13:39,600 --> 01:13:42,400 Speaker 5: the last month of the season. You know, you look 1658 01:13:42,479 --> 01:13:45,479 Speaker 5: for that leader at the quarterback position, and when you 1659 01:13:45,560 --> 01:13:47,800 Speaker 5: put forth an effort like that, you know, I think 1660 01:13:47,880 --> 01:13:50,680 Speaker 5: guys will rally behind him. You know, guys look at 1661 01:13:50,760 --> 01:13:53,719 Speaker 5: him like, man, you we got your back, broy the fighting. 1662 01:13:53,840 --> 01:13:55,160 Speaker 1: And I think it's been like that for all through 1663 01:13:55,160 --> 01:13:57,439 Speaker 1: of these Giant quarterbacks, right Daniel Jones over the year, 1664 01:13:57,439 --> 01:13:59,439 Speaker 1: even though the performance wasn't where it needed to be. 1665 01:14:00,200 --> 01:14:01,720 Speaker 2: Toughest nails guys respected him. 1666 01:14:01,760 --> 01:14:03,719 Speaker 1: We know how much respect they have for what Tommy 1667 01:14:03,760 --> 01:14:05,479 Speaker 1: def Youdo did last year and the guts he played with, 1668 01:14:05,840 --> 01:14:07,559 Speaker 1: and that would you lock. All these guys I think 1669 01:14:07,640 --> 01:14:10,280 Speaker 1: have shown up and again this is not talking about 1670 01:14:10,280 --> 01:14:12,679 Speaker 1: the quality of the performance, just talking about their effort, 1671 01:14:12,720 --> 01:14:14,000 Speaker 1: the type of guys there are in the blue car 1672 01:14:14,080 --> 01:14:16,280 Speaker 1: out to their grit. That's the perfect word. I think 1673 01:14:16,320 --> 01:14:18,120 Speaker 1: all the quarterbacks this year have certainly shown that. 1674 01:14:18,479 --> 01:14:21,000 Speaker 16: Yeah. I mean, look, we all know that the quarterback 1675 01:14:21,120 --> 01:14:23,559 Speaker 16: is always the magnet for everything the football team does. 1676 01:14:24,080 --> 01:14:24,280 Speaker 2: Well. 1677 01:14:24,439 --> 01:14:27,920 Speaker 16: Jonathan, you could speak to this as a defensive player. 1678 01:14:28,280 --> 01:14:30,040 Speaker 16: I yes, Brian Burns after the game, and I don't 1679 01:14:30,040 --> 01:14:32,280 Speaker 16: know if we have his audio available, but that next 1680 01:14:32,280 --> 01:14:36,759 Speaker 16: segment and you'll hear me ask him about the spark 1681 01:14:36,840 --> 01:14:39,120 Speaker 16: and the grit and the toughness that Locke showed. How 1682 01:14:39,200 --> 01:14:42,200 Speaker 16: much did that spark you guys, even on defense, because 1683 01:14:42,240 --> 01:14:42,759 Speaker 16: you saw. 1684 01:14:42,600 --> 01:14:46,080 Speaker 2: How he was fighting. He's your leader and he acknowledged 1685 01:14:46,120 --> 01:14:46,960 Speaker 2: that one hundred. 1686 01:14:47,680 --> 01:14:51,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, when you see a guy battling, you know, a 1687 01:14:51,120 --> 01:14:53,960 Speaker 5: guy going down, or you know, you know, stuff not work, 1688 01:14:54,040 --> 01:14:56,760 Speaker 5: especially when it's not going well for you and you're 1689 01:14:56,800 --> 01:14:59,000 Speaker 5: sitting back as a defender looking you're not at the 1690 01:14:59,040 --> 01:15:01,760 Speaker 5: offense like, man, he gotta figure this thing out. You know, 1691 01:15:01,840 --> 01:15:03,840 Speaker 5: we're going down the wrong path, and all of a 1692 01:15:03,880 --> 01:15:06,400 Speaker 5: sudden you see him battling and fighting for yards and 1693 01:15:06,800 --> 01:15:09,320 Speaker 5: you know, making some tough throws, you know, in the 1694 01:15:09,400 --> 01:15:12,519 Speaker 5: fourth quarter, you know, really getting you know, the offense 1695 01:15:12,640 --> 01:15:15,360 Speaker 5: operating to a point where you have a chance to 1696 01:15:15,479 --> 01:15:18,200 Speaker 5: win the game, you know. And as a defender, you 1697 01:15:18,280 --> 01:15:20,040 Speaker 5: know they made those stops at the end of the game, 1698 01:15:20,479 --> 01:15:23,320 Speaker 5: you know, and questionable calls over there on that side 1699 01:15:23,320 --> 01:15:25,479 Speaker 5: from the Saints throwing on first down late in the 1700 01:15:25,560 --> 01:15:28,000 Speaker 5: game like that. But hey, look it is what it is. 1701 01:15:28,240 --> 01:15:30,320 Speaker 5: The Giants were able to get off the field. And 1702 01:15:30,479 --> 01:15:33,120 Speaker 5: now you know, you're a spectator, you know, you go 1703 01:15:33,200 --> 01:15:36,040 Speaker 5: from defense. They're not coaching anymore that late in the games. 1704 01:15:36,240 --> 01:15:38,559 Speaker 5: There is no corrections on the sideline, no more. Paul, 1705 01:15:38,720 --> 01:15:42,240 Speaker 5: you're not in the iPad or whatever, you know, the tablet. 1706 01:15:42,560 --> 01:15:45,040 Speaker 5: You're looking now and now you're a fan. Now you're 1707 01:15:45,160 --> 01:15:47,519 Speaker 5: cheering on your offense. So now you're looking at like, 1708 01:15:47,640 --> 01:15:49,800 Speaker 5: come on, let's go Drew, let's go, let's go Eleak, 1709 01:15:50,040 --> 01:15:52,000 Speaker 5: Like that's how you are that late in the game. 1710 01:15:52,120 --> 01:15:55,160 Speaker 5: So you know, a testament to them. They showed grit today, 1711 01:15:55,640 --> 01:15:57,800 Speaker 5: came up short again, you know. And I said this 1712 01:15:57,920 --> 01:15:59,920 Speaker 5: earlier to Paul, and you know, and for me, I've 1713 01:16:00,040 --> 01:16:02,559 Speaker 5: been a part of a really great season, winning two 1714 01:16:02,640 --> 01:16:05,160 Speaker 5: super Bowls and being part of some really rough seasons 1715 01:16:05,240 --> 01:16:07,800 Speaker 5: one really weugh one in twenty seventeen here in New 1716 01:16:07,880 --> 01:16:10,120 Speaker 5: York Giants. And you know, I have empathy for these 1717 01:16:10,160 --> 01:16:13,439 Speaker 5: guys because it's rough. It's hard for these guys. You know, 1718 01:16:13,520 --> 01:16:16,360 Speaker 5: you go home, you're not happy, you know, like you 1719 01:16:16,439 --> 01:16:19,320 Speaker 5: see your family. You know, it's like, man, you're upset. 1720 01:16:19,479 --> 01:16:22,560 Speaker 5: You know, Like I used to leave here. My attitude 1721 01:16:22,560 --> 01:16:26,200 Speaker 5: when I left after a win was totally different than 1722 01:16:26,200 --> 01:16:28,360 Speaker 5: after I lost. Even if you talk to a loss, 1723 01:16:29,400 --> 01:16:32,519 Speaker 5: I mean, I mean, trying to handle the media was cool, 1724 01:16:32,880 --> 01:16:35,080 Speaker 5: but going outside there, you know, my aunt she's at 1725 01:16:35,120 --> 01:16:37,800 Speaker 5: all the games. I love migiy Deaf I Miggy, She's 1726 01:16:37,880 --> 01:16:39,760 Speaker 5: at all the games and she's always the one like 1727 01:16:39,880 --> 01:16:41,439 Speaker 5: can we get a picture? Can we get a picture? 1728 01:16:41,520 --> 01:16:42,240 Speaker 5: Can I get a picture? 1729 01:16:42,320 --> 01:16:42,439 Speaker 2: Can? 1730 01:16:42,840 --> 01:16:44,680 Speaker 5: And I'm like, Miggy, no, loss, get off? 1731 01:16:45,040 --> 01:16:45,479 Speaker 2: You know what I mean. 1732 01:16:45,520 --> 01:16:47,960 Speaker 5: But like I love my aunt to death, but like 1733 01:16:48,040 --> 01:16:50,880 Speaker 5: you understand what I'm saying like that that type of 1734 01:16:51,479 --> 01:16:55,639 Speaker 5: like switch from a win to a loss is drastic, 1735 01:16:55,720 --> 01:16:58,240 Speaker 5: And I'm not even really that type of person, but 1736 01:16:58,920 --> 01:17:02,400 Speaker 5: I cared so much, and every guy cares about winning 1737 01:17:02,439 --> 01:17:04,760 Speaker 5: and losing that locker room. So I feel for them 1738 01:17:04,880 --> 01:17:08,679 Speaker 5: leaving leaving his this stadium seven times with no wins 1739 01:17:09,120 --> 01:17:09,840 Speaker 5: like that's rough. 1740 01:17:09,960 --> 01:17:11,519 Speaker 1: And I think the fans feel that way leaving the 1741 01:17:11,520 --> 01:17:15,599 Speaker 1: stadiums too, right, which every one feels that way. 1742 01:17:15,720 --> 01:17:17,720 Speaker 2: So it is what it is, folks. Let's go get 1743 01:17:17,760 --> 01:17:19,880 Speaker 2: the quick time out. We're here from Brian Burns. 1744 01:17:19,920 --> 01:17:21,479 Speaker 1: But more importantly, we're go get to your calls when 1745 01:17:21,479 --> 01:17:22,960 Speaker 1: we come back at eight eight eight, eight oh eight 1746 01:17:23,040 --> 01:17:26,160 Speaker 1: one zero one nine smelt Tino Giants Extra point. Giants 1747 01:17:26,160 --> 01:17:28,280 Speaker 1: fall to the Saints fourteen to eleven. We'll be right 1748 01:17:28,320 --> 01:17:29,120 Speaker 1: back with your calls. 1749 01:17:29,640 --> 01:17:33,639 Speaker 6: You're listening to Giants extra Point on the Bobs Discount 1750 01:17:33,680 --> 01:17:37,080 Speaker 6: Furniture w Fan Giants Radio Network. 1751 01:17:37,560 --> 01:17:39,599 Speaker 27: This is Brian Burns and you're listening to the radio 1752 01:17:39,680 --> 01:17:42,200 Speaker 27: home of Big Blue the Fan, w F A N 1753 01:17:42,439 --> 01:17:44,439 Speaker 27: and w FA in FM, New York. 1754 01:17:45,840 --> 01:17:49,360 Speaker 2: All right, Giants fall to the Saints fourteen to eleven. 1755 01:17:49,479 --> 01:17:53,360 Speaker 1: We're back here on Giants extra point Smelck Casius Datino 1756 01:17:54,000 --> 01:17:55,760 Speaker 1: with you on the phones at eight eight eight eight 1757 01:17:55,760 --> 01:17:57,280 Speaker 1: oh eight one zero one nine. 1758 01:17:57,920 --> 01:18:01,040 Speaker 2: Let's go to Harvey and Dick Skills. He will lead 1759 01:18:01,120 --> 01:18:01,639 Speaker 2: us off today. 1760 01:18:01,720 --> 01:18:05,080 Speaker 23: Harvey, you know, it's not only frustrating for you, it's 1761 01:18:05,120 --> 01:18:09,760 Speaker 23: frustrating for us. It's fans, you know, to experience that. Yeah, 1762 01:18:09,840 --> 01:18:13,320 Speaker 23: I said that, Yeah, it's it's amazing. But anyway, I 1763 01:18:13,400 --> 01:18:16,320 Speaker 23: want to get three things quickly. Your opinions. As I 1764 01:18:16,439 --> 01:18:19,360 Speaker 23: told you many times, I learned from you. Uh you know. 1765 01:18:20,360 --> 01:18:23,439 Speaker 23: After on the post came Dabeles said that he was 1766 01:18:23,720 --> 01:18:26,360 Speaker 23: a reporter's question. They asked him something and I couldn't 1767 01:18:26,439 --> 01:18:29,479 Speaker 23: hear it. That he's spreading once to spread the receivers around. 1768 01:18:29,960 --> 01:18:32,960 Speaker 23: It's my opinion the neighbors, you know, should be the 1769 01:18:33,040 --> 01:18:35,360 Speaker 23: first target. You know, that's why they drafted him to 1770 01:18:35,400 --> 01:18:38,800 Speaker 23: be the first target, not spreading it around. And he 1771 01:18:39,040 --> 01:18:41,200 Speaker 23: was in neighbors. Was interviewed a couple of weeks ago 1772 01:18:41,800 --> 01:18:44,559 Speaker 23: that he's now practicing catching the ball with his hands. 1773 01:18:44,920 --> 01:18:47,320 Speaker 23: You know, he had dangels at LSU. You know, even 1774 01:18:47,360 --> 01:18:49,160 Speaker 23: in seventh grade, I was taught to catch a ball 1775 01:18:49,200 --> 01:18:51,960 Speaker 23: with the hands, and so many of these receivers catch 1776 01:18:52,000 --> 01:18:54,559 Speaker 23: a ball with their body. That's number one. Number two, 1777 01:18:54,800 --> 01:18:57,920 Speaker 23: could you describe the process on that block field goal? 1778 01:18:58,080 --> 01:19:01,080 Speaker 23: Because was there any contact there? Because I couldn't understand 1779 01:19:01,080 --> 01:19:03,200 Speaker 23: that I was in position. And the other thing is 1780 01:19:03,200 --> 01:19:05,960 Speaker 23: about Drew lock He's an NFL quarterback. He's been on 1781 01:19:06,040 --> 01:19:09,160 Speaker 23: a team all year, and that's a full full week 1782 01:19:09,240 --> 01:19:12,040 Speaker 23: of first full week of practice with the first team. 1783 01:19:12,600 --> 01:19:15,599 Speaker 23: Maybe maybe they, you know, reserve quarterbacks should take more 1784 01:19:15,960 --> 01:19:18,720 Speaker 23: practice with the first team. That's my thing. You could 1785 01:19:18,720 --> 01:19:20,360 Speaker 23: answer those things, all. 1786 01:19:20,320 --> 01:19:22,640 Speaker 1: Right, Harvey, appreciate the call. Why don't we start with 1787 01:19:22,680 --> 01:19:26,040 Speaker 1: the lock backup quarterback thing first? And most NFL teams? Jason, 1788 01:19:26,080 --> 01:19:27,800 Speaker 1: I'm curious. You've been on a lot of NFL teams 1789 01:19:27,960 --> 01:19:30,599 Speaker 1: four right, during your career, been a four So it's 1790 01:19:30,640 --> 01:19:34,320 Speaker 1: a lot. It's one eighth of the it's one eighth 1791 01:19:34,360 --> 01:19:34,920 Speaker 1: of the league. 1792 01:19:35,360 --> 01:19:35,800 Speaker 2: How about that? 1793 01:19:36,320 --> 01:19:38,880 Speaker 1: So how often you say answer him that you've been 1794 01:19:38,920 --> 01:19:41,920 Speaker 1: on two Super Bowl teams? Taking a shot out of 1795 01:19:42,040 --> 01:19:44,760 Speaker 1: I think he's gonna give some insight. How often, if 1796 01:19:44,840 --> 01:19:47,800 Speaker 1: at all, did back up quarterbacks and any of your 1797 01:19:47,840 --> 01:19:51,400 Speaker 1: teams ever take first team reps if the starter was healthy? 1798 01:19:51,760 --> 01:19:53,760 Speaker 5: Not too many times when you go good on good 1799 01:19:53,800 --> 01:19:57,280 Speaker 5: in practice, they usually stay with the second team offense. 1800 01:19:57,800 --> 01:20:00,680 Speaker 5: Not too many times you have a second string quarterback 1801 01:20:01,439 --> 01:20:04,400 Speaker 5: take reps with the first string offense during the season. 1802 01:20:04,880 --> 01:20:07,040 Speaker 5: Really doesn't happen a lot like that. In preseason, it 1803 01:20:07,120 --> 01:20:09,880 Speaker 5: definitely happens, you know, especially when you're resting guys and 1804 01:20:09,880 --> 01:20:14,040 Speaker 5: stuff like that. But I don't, no, it doesn't really happen. 1805 01:20:14,160 --> 01:20:15,840 Speaker 5: I mean, but the thing is when you go good 1806 01:20:15,880 --> 01:20:19,000 Speaker 5: on good, you're running your offense, but you're with the 1807 01:20:19,160 --> 01:20:23,439 Speaker 5: second team, second old lineman, second string running back, second string. 1808 01:20:23,280 --> 01:20:25,840 Speaker 2: Receivers and folks. 1809 01:20:25,880 --> 01:20:28,200 Speaker 1: That's just so you get you're limited a number of 1810 01:20:28,280 --> 01:20:30,040 Speaker 1: things you can do in practice during the week. Anyway, 1811 01:20:30,040 --> 01:20:31,760 Speaker 1: you want to get your first teamers and as you 1812 01:20:31,840 --> 01:20:33,760 Speaker 1: many reps as possible. And look, Harvey, by the way, 1813 01:20:33,840 --> 01:20:35,560 Speaker 1: Locke would have gotten more reps last week if was 1814 01:20:35,560 --> 01:20:37,160 Speaker 1: it a Thursday game, right, right, So, if it was 1815 01:20:37,200 --> 01:20:39,000 Speaker 1: it a Thursday game, Lock would have gotten his practice 1816 01:20:39,040 --> 01:20:39,639 Speaker 1: reps last week. 1817 01:20:39,680 --> 01:20:42,040 Speaker 5: So, and you only have so much time during the 1818 01:20:42,120 --> 01:20:44,880 Speaker 5: season for practice, correct and you have to run through 1819 01:20:45,400 --> 01:20:48,920 Speaker 5: what you're going to run for that week's game, and 1820 01:20:49,400 --> 01:20:51,120 Speaker 5: it's only a limited amount of time, you know, So 1821 01:20:52,240 --> 01:20:54,479 Speaker 5: I don't. I've never seen it happen during the week 1822 01:20:54,520 --> 01:20:58,639 Speaker 5: when you're prepping for another team that that backup quarterback 1823 01:20:59,000 --> 01:21:01,120 Speaker 5: takes first string reps. It just doesn't happen. 1824 01:21:01,240 --> 01:21:03,080 Speaker 1: And then on the field goal block, Paul, you cannot 1825 01:21:03,160 --> 01:21:05,599 Speaker 1: make contact because if you do, it's leverage, right, that's 1826 01:21:05,680 --> 01:21:07,680 Speaker 1: the call that gets called. So if you're jumping over 1827 01:21:07,720 --> 01:21:09,880 Speaker 1: the other guy starts to stand up and it looks 1828 01:21:09,920 --> 01:21:12,599 Speaker 1: like you're using the other person's body to get yourself 1829 01:21:12,720 --> 01:21:15,559 Speaker 1: some more height, that's a leverage penalty. So that's why 1830 01:21:15,560 --> 01:21:17,559 Speaker 1: it looked like he did get over the offensive line 1831 01:21:17,640 --> 01:21:18,439 Speaker 1: and clean on that right. 1832 01:21:18,600 --> 01:21:20,880 Speaker 16: And to the third point about neighbors, he now has 1833 01:21:20,920 --> 01:21:24,160 Speaker 16: one hundred and twenty six targets over the course of 1834 01:21:24,200 --> 01:21:25,160 Speaker 16: the Giant season. 1835 01:21:25,840 --> 01:21:29,080 Speaker 2: How many do you want him to have? Remember something, 1836 01:21:29,720 --> 01:21:30,559 Speaker 2: It's a lot of targets. 1837 01:21:31,120 --> 01:21:34,439 Speaker 16: The feeling is right, in all likelihood, during the course 1838 01:21:34,479 --> 01:21:38,960 Speaker 16: of an NFL game, if you've got approximately seventy five 1839 01:21:39,120 --> 01:21:41,840 Speaker 16: snaps on offense, which is usually what you get in 1840 01:21:41,920 --> 01:21:46,000 Speaker 16: an average NFL game these days, right, and you're going 1841 01:21:46,040 --> 01:21:50,000 Speaker 16: to have probably out of that seventy five, you'll probably 1842 01:21:50,080 --> 01:21:54,280 Speaker 16: get maybe thirty five, maybe thirty to thirty five pass 1843 01:21:54,320 --> 01:22:01,679 Speaker 16: attempts off between running plays, between sacks. But the bottom 1844 01:22:01,720 --> 01:22:04,519 Speaker 16: line is this, If he's already got one hundred and 1845 01:22:04,560 --> 01:22:07,600 Speaker 16: twenty six targets in eleven games, how many more do 1846 01:22:07,680 --> 01:22:08,320 Speaker 16: you want him to have? 1847 01:22:08,760 --> 01:22:11,080 Speaker 1: So heading into this game the league neighbors led the 1848 01:22:11,160 --> 01:22:13,719 Speaker 1: league in targets per game, not total targets. 1849 01:22:13,760 --> 01:22:17,760 Speaker 2: But remember he missed a couple of games. He's averaging. 1850 01:22:18,320 --> 01:22:19,840 Speaker 1: This is before this week, and he had what ten 1851 01:22:19,880 --> 01:22:21,639 Speaker 1: targets this week, so the numbers aren't going to change 1852 01:22:21,680 --> 01:22:25,840 Speaker 1: that much. Heading into this week, he averaged eleven point 1853 01:22:25,960 --> 01:22:27,719 Speaker 1: four to five. They'll give you the exact number. Harvey 1854 01:22:27,800 --> 01:22:30,559 Speaker 1: eleven point four to five targets per game to lead 1855 01:22:30,560 --> 01:22:35,240 Speaker 1: the NFL. The next guy was nearly two targets below him. 1856 01:22:36,040 --> 01:22:40,920 Speaker 2: This is all time. Marvin Harrison was nine point eight. 1857 01:22:41,600 --> 01:22:49,280 Speaker 2: This is all time. Not this season, Brown, right or 1858 01:22:49,360 --> 01:22:50,280 Speaker 2: is it? Or you know what? 1859 01:22:50,479 --> 01:22:50,800 Speaker 21: Hold on? 1860 01:22:51,240 --> 01:22:54,679 Speaker 1: These might be career numbers here, This might be career numbers. 1861 01:22:55,520 --> 01:22:56,760 Speaker 1: I think they are all right. Let me say, if 1862 01:22:56,760 --> 01:22:59,960 Speaker 1: I didn't get the season numbers, that story. 1863 01:23:01,040 --> 01:23:03,320 Speaker 5: One hundred receiver catch guys. 1864 01:23:03,840 --> 01:23:06,040 Speaker 2: How many more balls do you want to throw to 1865 01:23:06,120 --> 01:23:07,760 Speaker 2: this guy? I mean? 1866 01:23:07,960 --> 01:23:11,200 Speaker 16: And and he was already on the verge with his 1867 01:23:11,400 --> 01:23:14,639 Speaker 16: pace of setting a bunch of rookie receiving records. 1868 01:23:15,520 --> 01:23:18,000 Speaker 2: So okay, I got it. So he's this one ball. 1869 01:23:18,320 --> 01:23:20,080 Speaker 1: So he does lead the league this year as well 1870 01:23:20,120 --> 01:23:22,920 Speaker 1: when targets per game. The second guy is about a 1871 01:23:22,960 --> 01:23:26,960 Speaker 1: little more than one target per game below him. So 1872 01:23:27,080 --> 01:23:29,920 Speaker 1: it's still significant. He's significantly in first place. And look 1873 01:23:30,160 --> 01:23:32,719 Speaker 1: Theyghbor said it in this postgame tonight. They had plays 1874 01:23:32,760 --> 01:23:33,320 Speaker 1: dialed up for me. 1875 01:23:33,400 --> 01:23:35,520 Speaker 2: Look, you call certain plays. 1876 01:23:36,920 --> 01:23:39,519 Speaker 1: Anticipating the look you're gonna get on defense a man 1877 01:23:39,640 --> 01:23:42,560 Speaker 1: the man or specific type of zone. But if you 1878 01:23:42,600 --> 01:23:44,479 Speaker 1: have a specific route, and I love to get your 1879 01:23:44,520 --> 01:23:47,400 Speaker 1: come as a defender, jac your take on this. If 1880 01:23:47,600 --> 01:23:50,080 Speaker 1: you have a certain route designed as your number one 1881 01:23:50,120 --> 01:23:52,479 Speaker 1: option and the team gives you a look, sometimes that 1882 01:23:52,600 --> 01:23:54,400 Speaker 1: route is not a viable option, Like you might be 1883 01:23:54,479 --> 01:23:56,400 Speaker 1: running the guy into a double team and you can't. 1884 01:23:56,600 --> 01:23:58,719 Speaker 2: Throw them the ball, even if that's what the play 1885 01:23:58,760 --> 01:23:59,479 Speaker 2: design might call for. 1886 01:24:00,640 --> 01:24:02,800 Speaker 5: And you also got to put the rush in here too. 1887 01:24:03,479 --> 01:24:06,439 Speaker 5: You know how many times you said you got hit today. 1888 01:24:06,520 --> 01:24:08,400 Speaker 5: You know, like you have to factor all of those 1889 01:24:08,479 --> 01:24:08,760 Speaker 5: things in. 1890 01:24:08,840 --> 01:24:09,759 Speaker 2: It's thirteen quarterback. 1891 01:24:09,760 --> 01:24:11,839 Speaker 5: That's why you can't just go back there and play quarterback. 1892 01:24:12,479 --> 01:24:14,800 Speaker 5: Like it's not an easy position to play now, it's 1893 01:24:14,840 --> 01:24:17,080 Speaker 5: the most difficult position in all of sports. 1894 01:24:17,160 --> 01:24:19,519 Speaker 1: Can you can you call a bubble screen as the 1895 01:24:19,600 --> 01:24:21,479 Speaker 1: first play of every game to get him involved? Yeah, 1896 01:24:21,520 --> 01:24:23,479 Speaker 1: sure you could do that, But if it's a down 1897 01:24:23,520 --> 01:24:26,000 Speaker 1: the field play, I have to let what the defense shows. 1898 01:24:26,000 --> 01:24:30,760 Speaker 2: You know, if it's bad, that can get blown up too. 1899 01:24:30,920 --> 01:24:33,080 Speaker 16: And by the way, if you were to look at 1900 01:24:33,120 --> 01:24:35,240 Speaker 16: his route treat today, I think you would see he 1901 01:24:35,439 --> 01:24:38,560 Speaker 16: did have a variety of routes that he threw that 1902 01:24:38,680 --> 01:24:40,760 Speaker 16: he was thrown to today, and honestly, it wasn't just 1903 01:24:40,840 --> 01:24:41,639 Speaker 16: all the same stuff. 1904 01:24:41,880 --> 01:24:43,200 Speaker 1: I did think there are a couple of players early 1905 01:24:43,240 --> 01:24:45,519 Speaker 1: in the game too, where maybe he had I wouldn't 1906 01:24:45,520 --> 01:24:47,479 Speaker 1: say maybe he was wide open, but I have to 1907 01:24:47,880 --> 01:24:49,519 Speaker 1: rewatch the tape. But I thought he had a couple 1908 01:24:49,600 --> 01:24:51,880 Speaker 1: one on ones on deep passes down the sidelines that 1909 01:24:51,960 --> 01:24:54,560 Speaker 1: could have been thrown to anybe like those type of 1910 01:24:54,600 --> 01:24:58,559 Speaker 1: contested catch type things. And again sometimes there were rushes 1911 01:24:58,960 --> 01:25:01,120 Speaker 1: locked up the time to get out there, the ball 1912 01:25:01,160 --> 01:25:03,120 Speaker 1: went somewhere else. So again I don't know how the 1913 01:25:03,120 --> 01:25:04,920 Speaker 1: plays designed. Maybe Lock's not supposed to go there on 1914 01:25:04,960 --> 01:25:06,880 Speaker 1: those spots either. I don't know the answer to lead 1915 01:25:06,960 --> 01:25:10,799 Speaker 1: in the league historically. I didn't even know it was history. 1916 01:25:11,280 --> 01:25:12,960 Speaker 1: I was looking at the name this said Marvin Harrison. 1917 01:25:12,960 --> 01:25:16,920 Speaker 1: I didn't see no junior next to the name Johnson 1918 01:25:17,000 --> 01:25:19,559 Speaker 1: name Antonio brought. I'm like, what list are you looking at? 1919 01:25:20,040 --> 01:25:25,360 Speaker 1: It's really good. So per game this year, he's so 1920 01:25:25,560 --> 01:25:28,720 Speaker 1: more than one target ahead of the next guy, Scooper Cup, 1921 01:25:28,800 --> 01:25:31,240 Speaker 1: and then Ceedee lamb Is is right behind him, and 1922 01:25:31,240 --> 01:25:33,240 Speaker 1: then the fourth guy is Garret Wilson, who's nearly two 1923 01:25:33,560 --> 01:25:36,880 Speaker 1: targets behind him in terms of targets per game. So, uh, 1924 01:25:37,200 --> 01:25:40,599 Speaker 1: trust me, guys, you're you're getting the ball an awful lot. 1925 01:25:40,840 --> 01:25:44,120 Speaker 1: All right, let's go to Cliff in Manhattan. He's up next, Cliff. 1926 01:25:44,120 --> 01:25:44,559 Speaker 1: What's happening? 1927 01:25:44,640 --> 01:25:44,760 Speaker 5: Man? 1928 01:25:45,479 --> 01:25:49,080 Speaker 31: Hey, guys, thanks for the positives. I wanted to talk 1929 01:25:49,120 --> 01:25:51,679 Speaker 31: about the plane, but I wanted to mention another positive 1930 01:25:52,120 --> 01:25:57,320 Speaker 31: you mentioned. Michael McFadden had five TFLs. I'm a box 1931 01:25:57,479 --> 01:26:01,720 Speaker 31: I'm a box scorer, and I always look at the 1932 01:26:01,800 --> 01:26:04,880 Speaker 31: box scores of all the games. And you know, as 1933 01:26:04,920 --> 01:26:08,200 Speaker 31: a team, the Saints had two TFLs and we had thirteen, 1934 01:26:09,040 --> 01:26:11,679 Speaker 31: and three of those were from the guys that haven't 1935 01:26:11,720 --> 01:26:17,880 Speaker 31: played much, and well, oh yeah, And as far as 1936 01:26:17,920 --> 01:26:20,679 Speaker 31: the plane goes, I was a witness to the dark 1937 01:26:20,800 --> 01:26:24,479 Speaker 31: days in the sixties and seventies, and I remember the plane, 1938 01:26:25,080 --> 01:26:29,800 Speaker 31: and I just wanted anybody that's interested. The situations could 1939 01:26:29,840 --> 01:26:34,120 Speaker 31: not be more completely different, and the use of the 1940 01:26:34,200 --> 01:26:37,840 Speaker 31: plane at this time was you could see where I 1941 01:26:37,920 --> 01:26:43,280 Speaker 31: don't remember being peeved about it, but this time I'm 1942 01:26:43,360 --> 01:26:51,439 Speaker 31: not sympathetic at all. The history might be a little similar, 1943 01:26:51,920 --> 01:26:56,519 Speaker 31: but we're We had a very unusual challenge because we 1944 01:26:56,600 --> 01:27:01,600 Speaker 31: were very accomplished with the two supers and a quarterback 1945 01:27:02,040 --> 01:27:07,960 Speaker 31: coach combination that was especially special, and to keep that. 1946 01:27:08,280 --> 01:27:13,439 Speaker 31: We only kept the combination going for a couple of 1947 01:27:13,520 --> 01:27:17,080 Speaker 31: more years before we lost the coach, and everybody in 1948 01:27:17,160 --> 01:27:20,960 Speaker 31: the world knew that Eli could still play, So now 1949 01:27:21,080 --> 01:27:24,760 Speaker 31: Eli was playing, you know, in a different situation. And 1950 01:27:25,240 --> 01:27:28,960 Speaker 31: right right around that time, we entered the five straight 1951 01:27:29,080 --> 01:27:35,360 Speaker 31: years of very bad drafts where we didn't keep anybody 1952 01:27:35,760 --> 01:27:38,479 Speaker 31: for a second contract and they were not on anybody 1953 01:27:38,520 --> 01:27:41,479 Speaker 31: else's team either, And they made a big move to 1954 01:27:41,600 --> 01:27:46,120 Speaker 31: start correcting that in eighteen and nobody, most fans didn't 1955 01:27:46,120 --> 01:27:49,800 Speaker 31: see the progress that was in the draft, unfortunately it 1956 01:27:49,880 --> 01:27:53,120 Speaker 31: couldn't make the progress. And picking a staff that all 1957 01:27:53,560 --> 01:27:56,400 Speaker 31: communicated well with each other and with the general manager. 1958 01:27:56,720 --> 01:28:01,280 Speaker 31: They addressed that with these guys, and these guys have 1959 01:28:01,479 --> 01:28:06,040 Speaker 31: done nothing but build well on what these last guys did, 1960 01:28:06,840 --> 01:28:11,320 Speaker 31: and including the first year in twenty two when when 1961 01:28:11,400 --> 01:28:17,000 Speaker 31: they had no cap space, and and and then a 1962 01:28:17,120 --> 01:28:21,559 Speaker 31: significant you know improvement last year, which which was which 1963 01:28:21,720 --> 01:28:27,880 Speaker 31: was you know, obscured because the the they didn't have 1964 01:28:28,040 --> 01:28:31,519 Speaker 31: enough depth to cope with with what with what was 1965 01:28:31,600 --> 01:28:35,320 Speaker 31: going on. So this year they were figuring, Oh, everybody's 1966 01:28:35,320 --> 01:28:37,320 Speaker 31: going to be better with the depth. But you know, 1967 01:28:37,400 --> 01:28:42,719 Speaker 31: there's a process going derailed by injuries again and still 1968 01:28:42,760 --> 01:28:45,080 Speaker 31: not enough depth. But I would wager that we still 1969 01:28:45,160 --> 01:28:48,600 Speaker 31: have better depth this season than we had last. And 1970 01:28:48,880 --> 01:28:51,719 Speaker 31: everybody wants to know what the results are, you know overall, 1971 01:28:51,800 --> 01:28:55,240 Speaker 31: which is which is fine. But I don't know how 1972 01:28:55,320 --> 01:28:58,920 Speaker 31: anybody could watch this game and see that this is 1973 01:28:59,040 --> 01:29:02,760 Speaker 31: far from a dumpster fucker. I mean, I just I 1974 01:29:02,960 --> 01:29:03,679 Speaker 31: just don't see. 1975 01:29:03,520 --> 01:29:06,400 Speaker 2: You appreciate the call, my man. All right, let's go 1976 01:29:06,600 --> 01:29:09,759 Speaker 2: to our final call the segment. Let's go to sham 1977 01:29:09,960 --> 01:29:11,439 Speaker 2: in Princeton sham Yard next. 1978 01:29:13,080 --> 01:29:16,000 Speaker 22: Ellis I don't. I don't know what universe were living in. 1979 01:29:16,120 --> 01:29:19,200 Speaker 22: But these guys, the Giants have been awful since the 1980 01:29:19,280 --> 01:29:22,680 Speaker 22: Super Bowl years. So I am so happy that he 1981 01:29:22,960 --> 01:29:25,120 Speaker 22: blocked that field goals. I was worried that they were 1982 01:29:25,160 --> 01:29:28,439 Speaker 22: going to win. The Jaguars lost. I said, now we 1983 01:29:28,640 --> 01:29:30,640 Speaker 22: diss down to us and the Raiders. Raiders might win 1984 01:29:30,720 --> 01:29:33,000 Speaker 22: a game. We might pull out a Coke game. But 1985 01:29:33,080 --> 01:29:35,360 Speaker 22: I but besides, I don't see us speaking the other 1986 01:29:35,439 --> 01:29:40,840 Speaker 22: three teams. I don't get where. I'm sorry. I'm tired 1987 01:29:40,880 --> 01:29:46,280 Speaker 22: of hearing about gritty. We need a fundamental change. I mean, 1988 01:29:46,360 --> 01:29:49,040 Speaker 22: I thought Davel is okay if he had a good quarterback, 1989 01:29:49,160 --> 01:29:53,040 Speaker 22: but Shane looks like he's clueless. You need to have 1990 01:29:53,840 --> 01:29:56,759 Speaker 22: somebody to come in here and build up the defensive lines, 1991 01:29:57,040 --> 01:29:59,960 Speaker 22: the offensive lines, get some physical talent on this team 1992 01:30:00,240 --> 01:30:03,320 Speaker 22: like the old days. It needs a full change. And 1993 01:30:03,400 --> 01:30:06,400 Speaker 22: I'm tired of hearing this. So thank god they might 1994 01:30:06,479 --> 01:30:09,040 Speaker 22: get the second or first pick, trade it up and 1995 01:30:09,160 --> 01:30:12,280 Speaker 22: build depth, get a bunch of picks, and get rid 1996 01:30:12,320 --> 01:30:15,080 Speaker 22: of Shane for sure. And if he goes, I'm sure 1997 01:30:15,160 --> 01:30:17,320 Speaker 22: David would have to go too. You have to start fresh. 1998 01:30:17,680 --> 01:30:19,719 Speaker 22: What do you guys, think I can't take it anymore. 1999 01:30:20,640 --> 01:30:21,880 Speaker 2: Thank you, Shan, appreciate the call. 2000 01:30:21,960 --> 01:30:24,320 Speaker 1: Look, no one's happy with the record, if you understand 2001 01:30:24,360 --> 01:30:28,439 Speaker 1: your frustration. That's a decision that ownership will make at 2002 01:30:28,479 --> 01:30:30,400 Speaker 1: the end of the year. But there has been an 2003 01:30:30,400 --> 01:30:32,840 Speaker 1: effort to build up the offensive and defensive lines. If 2004 01:30:32,880 --> 01:30:36,160 Speaker 1: you look at where the resources Joe Shane has utilized 2005 01:30:36,160 --> 01:30:38,920 Speaker 1: over the course of his time here, uh he used 2006 01:30:38,920 --> 01:30:41,360 Speaker 1: a lot of draft picks on offensive lineman. He made 2007 01:30:41,400 --> 01:30:44,080 Speaker 1: a big trade for Brian Burns, he re signed Dexter Lawrence, 2008 01:30:44,680 --> 01:30:48,120 Speaker 1: uh trade drafted Caveon Thibodeau. So there has been an 2009 01:30:48,120 --> 01:30:50,479 Speaker 1: effort here to bolster the fronts. Obviously, the results aren't 2010 01:30:50,479 --> 01:30:52,800 Speaker 1: where you wanted to be yet. But I do think 2011 01:30:53,360 --> 01:30:57,880 Speaker 1: to your point, Sham, this organization does believe in those 2012 01:30:57,960 --> 01:31:01,559 Speaker 1: fundamentals that winning up front is how you're gonna win 2013 01:31:01,600 --> 01:31:03,280 Speaker 1: in this league. I mean, just look around the league 2014 01:31:03,320 --> 01:31:06,040 Speaker 1: now in terms of how teams are winning. Right you 2015 01:31:06,240 --> 01:31:08,800 Speaker 1: have the Detroit Lions, whose offensive line is one of 2016 01:31:08,840 --> 01:31:10,800 Speaker 1: the best in the league. Now, their defensive line is 2017 01:31:10,920 --> 01:31:12,600 Speaker 1: really banged up, so you can't take that in the 2018 01:31:12,640 --> 01:31:15,479 Speaker 1: consideration this year necessarily, But they're a tough, physical win 2019 01:31:15,560 --> 01:31:18,800 Speaker 1: up front type of football team. Philadelphia Eagles, same deal, 2020 01:31:19,240 --> 01:31:21,800 Speaker 1: right defensive line, offensive line to the best units in 2021 01:31:21,840 --> 01:31:22,200 Speaker 1: the league. 2022 01:31:22,760 --> 01:31:25,879 Speaker 2: Even you know, a team like the Bills. They you know, they've. 2023 01:31:26,080 --> 01:31:28,800 Speaker 1: Converted from a pass all the time team they run 2024 01:31:28,960 --> 01:31:31,519 Speaker 1: with James Cook a bunch. Now they run the ball. 2025 01:31:31,600 --> 01:31:35,160 Speaker 1: The Chiefs have become a more balanced offensive team as well. 2026 01:31:35,240 --> 01:31:38,280 Speaker 1: Look at the Ravens with Derrick Henry, Green Bay, Green Bay, 2027 01:31:39,160 --> 01:31:39,839 Speaker 1: Josh Jacobs. 2028 01:31:39,920 --> 01:31:41,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, so you have. 2029 01:31:41,680 --> 01:31:44,439 Speaker 1: All these teams that are French baby trenches, and I 2030 01:31:44,520 --> 01:31:47,720 Speaker 1: think the Giants understand, Paul that that is how you're 2031 01:31:47,720 --> 01:31:50,760 Speaker 1: gonna get out of this mess by being better totally. 2032 01:31:50,560 --> 01:31:53,920 Speaker 16: Concur absolutely one thousand percent. And that's also one of 2033 01:31:54,000 --> 01:31:57,640 Speaker 16: the reasons why Andre Patterson was high or does the 2034 01:31:57,680 --> 01:31:58,559 Speaker 16: defensive line. 2035 01:31:58,400 --> 01:31:59,479 Speaker 2: Coach by this staff. 2036 01:32:00,120 --> 01:32:02,719 Speaker 16: And when they had a chance to pick up Carmen 2037 01:32:02,800 --> 01:32:06,120 Speaker 16: Brisillo to up the offensive line this year, they went 2038 01:32:06,200 --> 01:32:09,400 Speaker 16: and grabbed him. I mean, that shows the commitment that 2039 01:32:09,520 --> 01:32:12,320 Speaker 16: they've got to try to fix those two units as 2040 01:32:12,400 --> 01:32:13,280 Speaker 16: best as possible. 2041 01:32:13,360 --> 01:32:15,960 Speaker 1: And look, Shaim, we're just commenting on this particular game 2042 01:32:16,040 --> 01:32:17,680 Speaker 1: with the guys that are on the field. Again, only 2043 01:32:17,720 --> 01:32:19,680 Speaker 1: at ten of your twenty two normal starters out there. 2044 01:32:20,000 --> 01:32:22,680 Speaker 1: They were all banged up. The fact that we were 2045 01:32:22,720 --> 01:32:25,439 Speaker 1: impressed with the grit and the toughness this individual group 2046 01:32:25,479 --> 01:32:27,120 Speaker 1: of players showed in this game doesn't take away of 2047 01:32:27,160 --> 01:32:29,280 Speaker 1: the fact that the season has been a total disappointment. 2048 01:32:29,320 --> 01:32:31,000 Speaker 2: No one's saying it hasn't been. We understand that. 2049 01:32:31,479 --> 01:32:33,200 Speaker 1: But bren a post game show, we're gonna talk about 2050 01:32:33,200 --> 01:32:34,439 Speaker 1: the game that just happened in front of us. 2051 01:32:34,560 --> 01:32:36,519 Speaker 5: Yeah, you have to. And you missed a couple guys, 2052 01:32:36,560 --> 01:32:38,080 Speaker 5: and I know you were just kind of naming some, 2053 01:32:38,280 --> 01:32:41,160 Speaker 5: but you know, Jermaine Iluminoor, he's been a great addition 2054 01:32:41,840 --> 01:32:43,920 Speaker 5: to the New York Football Giants. He's a locker room 2055 01:32:43,960 --> 01:32:45,200 Speaker 5: guy too, He's a leader. 2056 01:32:45,040 --> 01:32:46,559 Speaker 2: Great fan wrote in the same deal, by the way, 2057 01:32:46,640 --> 01:32:47,560 Speaker 2: and I remember. 2058 01:32:47,360 --> 01:32:50,479 Speaker 5: When they were practicing against the Detroit Lions, and the 2059 01:32:50,560 --> 01:32:54,360 Speaker 5: Detroit Lions and the Giants, they got into physical altercations 2060 01:32:55,280 --> 01:33:02,759 Speaker 5: several times. Jermaine Ilumini was involved. And if he wasn't involved, 2061 01:33:02,840 --> 01:33:05,240 Speaker 5: he got himself involved. He's a guy that's gonna fight 2062 01:33:05,720 --> 01:33:08,080 Speaker 5: for this team. So they brought in not only good players, 2063 01:33:08,120 --> 01:33:10,719 Speaker 5: but they brought in good fighters. And of course Jamain 2064 01:33:10,800 --> 01:33:12,840 Speaker 5: Lumino is not healthy right now, and you can go 2065 01:33:12,960 --> 01:33:15,200 Speaker 5: down the line of the guys that you know, a 2066 01:33:15,280 --> 01:33:18,320 Speaker 5: marking offensive line to pay the defensive line. Guys are 2067 01:33:18,360 --> 01:33:20,880 Speaker 5: banged up, you know, and you could say that for 2068 01:33:21,000 --> 01:33:22,559 Speaker 5: all the guys around the league, but this is two 2069 01:33:22,640 --> 01:33:25,160 Speaker 5: years in a row that the Giants are missing Andrew Thomas, 2070 01:33:25,400 --> 01:33:27,439 Speaker 5: who is by far the best offensive lineman that the 2071 01:33:27,520 --> 01:33:30,720 Speaker 5: Giants have. And then now you got Dexhah Lawrence out 2072 01:33:30,720 --> 01:33:33,200 Speaker 5: who has been the heartbeat for this Giants defense for 2073 01:33:33,280 --> 01:33:35,640 Speaker 5: what six years now that Dexah Lawrence has been in 2074 01:33:35,640 --> 01:33:40,160 Speaker 5: the league, and losing him is huge, not only just 2075 01:33:40,280 --> 01:33:43,040 Speaker 5: the mountain that he is on the field, but also 2076 01:33:43,120 --> 01:33:45,400 Speaker 5: in the locker room as well, to not just get 2077 01:33:45,479 --> 01:33:48,120 Speaker 5: the guys going during the day, but to make sure 2078 01:33:48,200 --> 01:33:51,560 Speaker 5: the guys stay afloat during games like this and for 2079 01:33:51,640 --> 01:33:56,320 Speaker 5: them to battle through that without their Achilles. 2080 01:33:55,720 --> 01:33:56,600 Speaker 2: From Troy. 2081 01:33:58,160 --> 01:34:01,240 Speaker 5: Achilles edition right there, you know, without him, you know, 2082 01:34:01,439 --> 01:34:03,640 Speaker 5: I think that says a lot to this team and 2083 01:34:03,800 --> 01:34:06,280 Speaker 5: how they do fight for this coach in this team. 2084 01:34:06,439 --> 01:34:08,960 Speaker 2: Can That's the first Dexter Lawrence brad Pitt comparison I 2085 01:34:09,000 --> 01:34:10,760 Speaker 2: ever heard, but I'll take it. Yeah. 2086 01:34:11,800 --> 01:34:14,720 Speaker 16: Could I just throw in an item about the offensive 2087 01:34:14,760 --> 01:34:16,880 Speaker 16: line today, even though Drew Lock took a lot of hits. 2088 01:34:17,280 --> 01:34:19,360 Speaker 2: Think about this, JMS. 2089 01:34:19,520 --> 01:34:22,800 Speaker 16: John Michael SCHMIDTZ had been the iron man of this 2090 01:34:22,960 --> 01:34:26,560 Speaker 16: offensive line at center all year. He gets hurt with 2091 01:34:26,640 --> 01:34:28,600 Speaker 16: a neck injury. With about ten minutes to go in 2092 01:34:28,720 --> 01:34:31,760 Speaker 16: the game. They got to bring in Aaron Stinney, the 2093 01:34:31,840 --> 01:34:34,840 Speaker 16: former Super Bowl champ from the box to play guard, 2094 01:34:35,000 --> 01:34:37,120 Speaker 16: and Greg Van roten Is got to go in to 2095 01:34:37,240 --> 01:34:39,320 Speaker 16: start taking snaps at center. 2096 01:34:40,160 --> 01:34:41,200 Speaker 2: And what did the Giants do. 2097 01:34:41,880 --> 01:34:44,519 Speaker 16: They go down the field and they get a touchdown 2098 01:34:44,600 --> 01:34:47,280 Speaker 16: to cut it to a three point game, and then 2099 01:34:47,360 --> 01:34:50,600 Speaker 16: with that same configuration of the line, they get in 2100 01:34:50,680 --> 01:34:55,640 Speaker 16: position for a game time field goal. Aaron Stinney, I 2101 01:34:55,680 --> 01:34:58,280 Speaker 16: don't know how many snaps has he had this year period, 2102 01:34:58,360 --> 01:34:59,760 Speaker 16: even on special teams. 2103 01:34:59,560 --> 01:35:01,280 Speaker 1: I don't know, But I don't think on offense, I 2104 01:35:01,320 --> 01:35:03,160 Speaker 1: don't think he's taken. I don't think he's had and 2105 01:35:04,080 --> 01:35:04,559 Speaker 1: I don't think he. 2106 01:35:04,560 --> 01:35:08,360 Speaker 5: Has Greg step up and play center, right, that is 2107 01:35:08,479 --> 01:35:09,519 Speaker 5: not an easy position. 2108 01:35:09,600 --> 01:35:15,519 Speaker 16: So to my point, these veterans who are prepared, ready 2109 01:35:15,600 --> 01:35:18,120 Speaker 16: for the challenge, will do whatever they've got to do 2110 01:35:18,280 --> 01:35:22,600 Speaker 16: to give you a chance. Being coached up by Carmen Brisillo. I. 2111 01:35:22,840 --> 01:35:25,400 Speaker 16: I'm sorry. I'm gonna give those guys credit for that. 2112 01:35:25,600 --> 01:35:27,640 Speaker 1: And by the way, just fyi, and again this is 2113 01:35:27,720 --> 01:35:31,560 Speaker 1: early results from PFF. They're gonna review their grading and 2114 01:35:31,680 --> 01:35:33,559 Speaker 1: go through it. They had the Saints for twenty six 2115 01:35:33,640 --> 01:35:36,840 Speaker 1: pressures in this game, but they only had fifteen on 2116 01:35:36,920 --> 01:35:40,160 Speaker 1: the Giants offensive line and tight ends and running backs, 2117 01:35:40,160 --> 01:35:43,920 Speaker 1: which means eleven according to their early analysis, was on 2118 01:35:44,000 --> 01:35:44,559 Speaker 1: the quarterback. 2119 01:35:45,160 --> 01:35:45,400 Speaker 2: Wow. 2120 01:35:45,600 --> 01:35:47,080 Speaker 1: So just something to keep in mind. Again, we all 2121 01:35:47,080 --> 01:35:49,120 Speaker 1: have to rewatch the game, take a closer look at it. 2122 01:35:50,080 --> 01:35:53,360 Speaker 1: They had three pressures allowed by a zudu, then just 2123 01:35:53,439 --> 01:35:57,200 Speaker 1: two a piece for Neil Stinny and Tracy, and then 2124 01:35:57,280 --> 01:36:00,519 Speaker 1: one each for Van Roten Schmid's Kubas run. So that's 2125 01:36:00,560 --> 01:36:03,320 Speaker 1: what their early things look like. Again, we'll look at 2126 01:36:03,360 --> 01:36:05,000 Speaker 1: ourselves and see what it looks like. But just to 2127 01:36:05,040 --> 01:36:06,960 Speaker 1: give fans out of d R quick time out, we'll 2128 01:36:07,000 --> 01:36:09,160 Speaker 1: come back with it from Brian Burns. See if not 2129 01:36:09,240 --> 01:36:10,800 Speaker 1: sure we're gonna squeeze on a call. We'll see if 2130 01:36:10,800 --> 01:36:13,559 Speaker 1: we have time. As we continue here on Giants extra point. 2131 01:36:13,600 --> 01:36:16,000 Speaker 1: Giants lose to the Saints fourteen to eleven. 2132 01:36:16,040 --> 01:36:16,680 Speaker 2: Will be right back. 2133 01:36:17,120 --> 01:36:20,639 Speaker 6: You are listening to Giants extra Point on the Bobs 2134 01:36:20,680 --> 01:36:24,599 Speaker 6: Discount Furniture Wfan Giants Radio Network. 2135 01:36:24,960 --> 01:36:27,439 Speaker 10: This is Brian Dabill, head football coach in New York Giants, 2136 01:36:27,479 --> 01:36:29,960 Speaker 10: and you're listening to radio home of Big Blue The Fan, 2137 01:36:30,240 --> 01:36:32,880 Speaker 10: WFAN and w FANFM, New York. 2138 01:36:34,720 --> 01:36:36,400 Speaker 1: All right, we're back here on a Giants extra point. 2139 01:36:36,439 --> 01:36:38,720 Speaker 1: Giants fall to the Saints fourteen to eleven. Giants TV 2140 01:36:38,800 --> 01:36:41,400 Speaker 1: presented by a Bob's Discount Furnitures, The official Connected TV 2141 01:36:41,439 --> 01:36:44,639 Speaker 1: app at the Giants available for free now on Apple TV, Roku, 2142 01:36:44,720 --> 01:36:47,599 Speaker 1: Amazon Fire TV, and Inside the Giants Mobile app. Stream 2143 01:36:47,640 --> 01:36:50,599 Speaker 1: game highlights, interviews, TV shows, and more exclusive video content 2144 01:36:51,040 --> 01:36:56,120 Speaker 1: with Giants TV. Let's hear from Brian Burns, one of 2145 01:36:56,160 --> 01:36:58,360 Speaker 1: the Giants leaders on defense. He talked to the media 2146 01:36:58,360 --> 01:36:58,840 Speaker 1: after the game. 2147 01:37:00,000 --> 01:37:01,400 Speaker 12: Do you take your super shirt more? 2148 01:37:01,520 --> 01:37:03,360 Speaker 15: She's from the child. You guys are able to fence 2149 01:37:03,400 --> 01:37:05,400 Speaker 15: for me to get the all five foot your offense. 2150 01:37:05,680 --> 01:37:07,760 Speaker 15: They drive down the field and you have to feel 2151 01:37:07,800 --> 01:37:09,759 Speaker 15: that it's part they shut the overtight. 2152 01:37:10,600 --> 01:37:15,800 Speaker 12: Uh yeah, that was something. Uh I mean when we 2153 01:37:15,880 --> 01:37:16,960 Speaker 12: got lined up for the field goal. 2154 01:37:17,080 --> 01:37:19,360 Speaker 27: Me kt and you know some of the other uh 2155 01:37:19,400 --> 01:37:21,880 Speaker 27: alk Lina Aks was talking about you know what we 2156 01:37:21,960 --> 01:37:23,479 Speaker 27: gonna do when we go back out there, get to 2157 01:37:23,600 --> 01:37:25,400 Speaker 27: another chance to rush and you don't go out of 2158 01:37:25,400 --> 01:37:25,679 Speaker 27: the game. 2159 01:37:26,760 --> 01:37:28,920 Speaker 12: We just never got that shot, so you know it 2160 01:37:28,960 --> 01:37:30,120 Speaker 12: was a little surprising. 2161 01:37:30,240 --> 01:37:32,639 Speaker 20: Yeah cause it I mean, even with all these losses, 2162 01:37:32,760 --> 01:37:34,200 Speaker 20: it it's that a little hard to believe. 2163 01:37:34,520 --> 01:37:35,680 Speaker 12: Yeah, that was that was a tough one. 2164 01:37:35,800 --> 01:37:38,240 Speaker 27: That was a tough one, you know, especially when you 2165 01:37:38,320 --> 01:37:39,920 Speaker 27: get excited to go back in it and you know 2166 01:37:39,960 --> 01:37:42,280 Speaker 27: I could go when it they overtime, but could never 2167 01:37:42,360 --> 01:37:42,640 Speaker 27: get there. 2168 01:37:42,680 --> 01:37:43,639 Speaker 12: You know, it's it's a tough one. 2169 01:37:43,960 --> 01:37:46,040 Speaker 15: A couple of things you did defensively that I think 2170 01:37:46,120 --> 01:37:49,559 Speaker 15: were really high marks. You got the car two shocks, 2171 01:37:49,600 --> 01:37:50,759 Speaker 15: which doesn't happen. 2172 01:37:50,640 --> 01:37:53,519 Speaker 2: Often, and you also held Camarado under fifty yards rushing 2173 01:37:53,560 --> 01:37:53,920 Speaker 2: in the game. 2174 01:37:54,240 --> 01:37:55,559 Speaker 9: That's pretty pretty impressive too. 2175 01:37:55,720 --> 01:37:55,880 Speaker 11: Yeah. 2176 01:37:55,960 --> 01:37:56,880 Speaker 12: Yeah, I'm proud of the guys. 2177 01:37:56,920 --> 01:37:58,679 Speaker 27: You know, that stepped up, you know with uh decks 2178 01:37:58,720 --> 01:38:01,240 Speaker 27: being out about me being out m you know, they 2179 01:38:01,280 --> 01:38:01,960 Speaker 27: did a great job. 2180 01:38:02,800 --> 01:38:04,639 Speaker 12: Those young guys. You know, some of them never even 2181 01:38:04,680 --> 01:38:07,640 Speaker 12: played in a game, so I'm I'm extremely probably how 2182 01:38:07,640 --> 01:38:08,639 Speaker 12: they how they hand him. 2183 01:38:08,520 --> 01:38:11,160 Speaker 13: Saying pry and you probably didn't realize it cause it 2184 01:38:11,200 --> 01:38:13,360 Speaker 13: was a pre game but there was uh, some fans. 2185 01:38:13,120 --> 01:38:15,200 Speaker 12: That charted a plane uh prior to the game. 2186 01:38:15,240 --> 01:38:17,720 Speaker 13: It charred chartered U uh like a like I'm a 2187 01:38:17,760 --> 01:38:21,639 Speaker 13: small plan with one of those message and flew around 2188 01:38:21,640 --> 01:38:24,479 Speaker 13: the stadium basically say imploring mister manorant too. I think 2189 01:38:24,520 --> 01:38:27,120 Speaker 13: the word was please fix the dumpster a fire. What's 2190 01:38:27,120 --> 01:38:29,559 Speaker 13: your reaction when you hear somebody goes in that length 2191 01:38:29,680 --> 01:38:31,000 Speaker 13: the ga? 2192 01:38:31,240 --> 01:38:33,719 Speaker 12: Yeah, you know those planes with carrying a banner. 2193 01:38:35,000 --> 01:38:38,240 Speaker 27: Yeah, I mean it kind of flew around the stadium 2194 01:38:38,240 --> 01:38:42,120 Speaker 27: for I didn't see it. I really still don't even 2195 01:38:42,120 --> 01:38:42,800 Speaker 27: know what you're talking about. 2196 01:38:42,840 --> 01:38:46,320 Speaker 12: But I mean, I really have a comment on on that. 2197 01:38:48,840 --> 01:38:51,920 Speaker 20: W Was this the kind of defensive performance that should 2198 01:38:52,120 --> 01:38:53,720 Speaker 20: result in a wind in your mind? 2199 01:38:58,439 --> 01:38:59,000 Speaker 12: I wouldn't say. 2200 01:38:59,000 --> 01:39:00,479 Speaker 27: I wouldn't say that because I feel like there's some 2201 01:39:00,520 --> 01:39:02,080 Speaker 27: plays that we left out there that could have, you know, 2202 01:39:02,640 --> 01:39:06,320 Speaker 27: helped the helped our chances of winning. It's tough to 2203 01:39:06,360 --> 01:39:08,160 Speaker 27: say that this was the performance that that that we 2204 01:39:08,200 --> 01:39:10,400 Speaker 27: should have worn when we didn't win, you know what 2205 01:39:10,439 --> 01:39:12,800 Speaker 27: I mean? So, yeah, we just have to clean up 2206 01:39:12,840 --> 01:39:15,559 Speaker 27: on on those plays and and uh, you know, make 2207 01:39:15,640 --> 01:39:17,160 Speaker 27: more plays than them, and you know, we get the 2208 01:39:17,240 --> 01:39:17,880 Speaker 27: result that we need. 2209 01:39:19,640 --> 01:39:21,960 Speaker 15: So when you see Lock running around and scramble some 2210 01:39:22,040 --> 01:39:23,920 Speaker 15: of those yards and some of those first towns, it's like, 2211 01:39:23,960 --> 01:39:25,519 Speaker 15: give you guys a little bit of juice as. 2212 01:39:25,439 --> 01:39:27,080 Speaker 12: Well on the sideline for sure. I know the type 2213 01:39:27,080 --> 01:39:29,600 Speaker 12: of player he is. You know, he's uh, he's a 2214 01:39:29,640 --> 01:39:30,600 Speaker 12: bit un orthodox. 2215 01:39:30,680 --> 01:39:30,840 Speaker 19: You know. 2216 01:39:31,000 --> 01:39:32,600 Speaker 27: He likes to you know, get on the move and 2217 01:39:32,720 --> 01:39:35,160 Speaker 27: use his legs and athleticism. So I kind of I 2218 01:39:35,280 --> 01:39:37,960 Speaker 27: kind of figured he would be doing that. Yeah, nah, 2219 01:39:37,960 --> 01:39:39,120 Speaker 27: but it does give you a little juice. 2220 01:39:39,160 --> 01:39:39,240 Speaker 6: You know. 2221 01:39:39,320 --> 01:39:41,400 Speaker 27: He he's fighting for every yard he can get, you know, 2222 01:39:41,640 --> 01:39:44,439 Speaker 27: any play he can make. So shit, I'm proud of 2223 01:39:44,520 --> 01:39:46,599 Speaker 27: him too. You know, he's out there fighting. It's all 2224 01:39:46,640 --> 01:39:47,320 Speaker 27: like an as. 2225 01:39:51,200 --> 01:39:53,519 Speaker 20: Pretty much happier what you did against Alvin Kamara with 2226 01:39:53,720 --> 01:39:56,400 Speaker 20: forty four yards and he really hit you know, through 2227 01:39:56,479 --> 01:39:57,080 Speaker 20: to a whole lot of this. 2228 01:39:57,240 --> 01:39:58,759 Speaker 12: Yeah, and that's a testament to the whole defense. 2229 01:39:58,760 --> 01:40:00,680 Speaker 27: Like I said, those young guys stepp though up when 2230 01:40:00,720 --> 01:40:03,280 Speaker 27: we needed them big, and you know, I just dropped 2231 01:40:03,280 --> 01:40:05,120 Speaker 27: do my job as a leader to you know, keep 2232 01:40:05,120 --> 01:40:07,080 Speaker 27: them in the game and and answer any questions that 2233 01:40:07,120 --> 01:40:09,840 Speaker 27: they had. And uh, yeah, like I said, I'm proud 2234 01:40:09,880 --> 01:40:11,320 Speaker 27: of them. They did a great job. You know, gets 2235 01:40:11,320 --> 01:40:12,120 Speaker 27: a gr a great back. 2236 01:40:12,200 --> 01:40:14,439 Speaker 20: So I mean, does it say anything about this team 2237 01:40:14,479 --> 01:40:17,479 Speaker 20: I that you guys, especially on defense, played at that 2238 01:40:17,720 --> 01:40:20,559 Speaker 20: level with this effort this late in the season, when 2239 01:40:20,560 --> 01:40:22,160 Speaker 20: you already have a seven game losing streak. 2240 01:40:22,920 --> 01:40:25,160 Speaker 12: Uh yeah, I mean, like I said, it's like not 2241 01:40:25,240 --> 01:40:26,920 Speaker 12: giving up as pride. You know, at the end of 2242 01:40:26,960 --> 01:40:28,920 Speaker 12: the day. Uh, we gotta be out there, So why 2243 01:40:29,000 --> 01:40:31,200 Speaker 12: not give a job? You feel me? So, yeah, that's 2244 01:40:31,240 --> 01:40:32,240 Speaker 12: kind of how it's I believe it. 2245 01:40:32,640 --> 01:40:33,840 Speaker 19: What do you think him when you see all these 2246 01:40:33,840 --> 01:40:35,800 Speaker 19: guys dropping 'em and you're kind of like one of 2247 01:40:35,880 --> 01:40:38,360 Speaker 19: the last men standing there on that defense at this point. 2248 01:40:39,400 --> 01:40:41,680 Speaker 27: Uh, just a bigger role for me to take as 2249 01:40:41,720 --> 01:40:44,720 Speaker 27: far as leadership, you know, it puts me in a 2250 01:40:44,760 --> 01:40:47,800 Speaker 27: position where, you know, we don't have dates, we don't 2251 01:40:47,800 --> 01:40:50,280 Speaker 27: have Bobby. You know, most of the guys are coming 2252 01:40:50,320 --> 01:40:53,679 Speaker 27: to me now for you know, either encouragement or advice, 2253 01:40:54,400 --> 01:40:56,560 Speaker 27: and it just puts me in enough position to you know, 2254 01:40:56,600 --> 01:40:59,840 Speaker 27: advance my leadership skills and and really hone into to 2255 01:41:00,200 --> 01:41:00,959 Speaker 27: being the leadership. 2256 01:41:01,280 --> 01:41:03,920 Speaker 12: So is that why it's important for you to keep 2257 01:41:03,960 --> 01:41:05,479 Speaker 12: going here? I mean, I know you've been banged up 2258 01:41:05,960 --> 01:41:08,519 Speaker 12: a lot of regardless regardless of if I'm a leader 2259 01:41:08,560 --> 01:41:10,559 Speaker 12: if not a leader, it's just not immediate lay down. 2260 01:41:10,920 --> 01:41:13,920 Speaker 27: If I'm out there, you feel me, So you know, 2261 01:41:14,600 --> 01:41:17,479 Speaker 27: that's just kind of how that's how it feel as individual. 2262 01:41:18,400 --> 01:41:21,519 Speaker 15: Betch you still believe in what you guys set out 2263 01:41:21,560 --> 01:41:24,080 Speaker 15: to do at the beginning of the year, it's still possible. 2264 01:41:24,120 --> 01:41:26,559 Speaker 12: Whether it happens in four games, obviously it's not gonna 2265 01:41:26,560 --> 01:41:29,280 Speaker 12: happen to understanding, but there's a bigger picture. 2266 01:41:29,040 --> 01:41:30,360 Speaker 5: Here as well that you're a part of. 2267 01:41:30,439 --> 01:41:32,760 Speaker 12: Definitely is always a bigger picture. I like how you've 2268 01:41:32,800 --> 01:41:36,439 Speaker 12: worded that question. Yeah, Like I'm trying to get the 2269 01:41:36,479 --> 01:41:38,760 Speaker 12: guys to understand that's a bigger picture and what we 2270 01:41:38,880 --> 01:41:39,800 Speaker 12: got going on right now. 2271 01:41:40,400 --> 01:41:42,400 Speaker 27: Obviously, it's just falling in love with the process of 2272 01:41:42,439 --> 01:41:44,840 Speaker 27: getting better, especially these young guys. We have a lot 2273 01:41:44,880 --> 01:41:47,479 Speaker 27: of young guys playing on this defense and they need 2274 01:41:47,560 --> 01:41:50,360 Speaker 27: to evolve, you know, and it's not just for themselves, 2275 01:41:50,400 --> 01:41:51,960 Speaker 27: but also for the future. 2276 01:41:51,720 --> 01:41:55,639 Speaker 2: Mixture that's Brian Burns and Paul. 2277 01:41:56,320 --> 01:41:59,080 Speaker 1: Unfortunately for Brian and I'm sure he's not gonna be 2278 01:41:59,479 --> 01:42:02,880 Speaker 1: happier this, but he has experience closing seasons like this 2279 01:42:03,040 --> 01:42:04,920 Speaker 1: over the past four or five years where the Panthers 2280 01:42:05,000 --> 01:42:07,320 Speaker 1: have not been very good. Yep, much like the Giants 2281 01:42:07,360 --> 01:42:10,559 Speaker 1: for many of the past few years, and he's used 2282 01:42:10,600 --> 01:42:15,000 Speaker 1: to having to, frankly, continue to play hard even though 2283 01:42:15,040 --> 01:42:17,920 Speaker 1: the results are not there. And I think I've been 2284 01:42:17,960 --> 01:42:20,280 Speaker 1: impressed with those leadership skills so far this year and 2285 01:42:20,320 --> 01:42:23,000 Speaker 1: the way he's really with now with Dexter annal Karake 2286 01:42:23,680 --> 01:42:25,600 Speaker 1: to of the other defense leaders out. He's kind of 2287 01:42:25,600 --> 01:42:28,080 Speaker 1: the guy that now is wearing the veteran mantle on 2288 01:42:28,200 --> 01:42:30,320 Speaker 1: this defensive group, and I think he's done a pretty 2289 01:42:30,320 --> 01:42:31,599 Speaker 1: good job bringing guys along with him. 2290 01:42:31,720 --> 01:42:34,040 Speaker 16: I've said this a couple of times during the season, 2291 01:42:34,160 --> 01:42:36,080 Speaker 16: and I want to say it one more time for 2292 01:42:36,160 --> 01:42:37,680 Speaker 16: those who may not have understood it. 2293 01:42:38,080 --> 01:42:39,400 Speaker 2: And then I want to follow it to you. 2294 01:42:39,720 --> 01:42:45,200 Speaker 15: Jonathan Brian Burns got a very big contract extension from 2295 01:42:45,240 --> 01:42:47,080 Speaker 15: the Giants when he came here in the trade. 2296 01:42:48,000 --> 01:42:50,680 Speaker 16: We've seen guys over the years in this league who 2297 01:42:51,040 --> 01:42:53,960 Speaker 16: when they get theirs, maybe they pull back a little bit. 2298 01:42:54,320 --> 01:42:56,880 Speaker 16: They get hurt, all right, you know they're not going 2299 01:42:56,960 --> 01:42:57,960 Speaker 16: to go that extra mile. 2300 01:42:58,080 --> 01:43:00,400 Speaker 1: And he's been banged up right, achilles injury, he has 2301 01:43:00,560 --> 01:43:03,280 Speaker 1: a growing hamstring, you name it, that too. 2302 01:43:03,400 --> 01:43:06,599 Speaker 16: He's had all kinds of nicks and bumps and bruises 2303 01:43:07,160 --> 01:43:09,920 Speaker 16: for well more than the last month, probably as media 2304 01:43:09,960 --> 01:43:12,320 Speaker 16: six weeks go back to September and the September he 2305 01:43:12,360 --> 01:43:13,880 Speaker 16: had the Achilles, And what have. 2306 01:43:14,000 --> 01:43:14,920 Speaker 2: We seen from him? 2307 01:43:15,600 --> 01:43:19,320 Speaker 16: Non stop give everything he's got every time he's out 2308 01:43:19,400 --> 01:43:23,560 Speaker 16: on the field, constantly making plays. Then in addition to that, 2309 01:43:23,760 --> 01:43:26,559 Speaker 16: taking the leadership role in the locker room. You are 2310 01:43:26,640 --> 01:43:28,960 Speaker 16: a guy, Jonathan, who played hurt an awful lot in 2311 01:43:29,040 --> 01:43:32,200 Speaker 16: your career, you understand. And that's why I love when 2312 01:43:32,240 --> 01:43:34,800 Speaker 16: we're sitting together during the game and you'll say to me, man, 2313 01:43:34,840 --> 01:43:38,120 Speaker 16: look at Burns because the respect that you have for him, 2314 01:43:38,560 --> 01:43:40,520 Speaker 16: understanding you've been in those shoes. 2315 01:43:40,479 --> 01:43:43,719 Speaker 5: Yeah, one hundred percent. You know, those guys are crucial, 2316 01:43:44,439 --> 01:43:48,760 Speaker 5: not only in games, but postgame, before the game, you know, 2317 01:43:48,920 --> 01:43:52,240 Speaker 5: during the week. You know, it's it's right now. You know, 2318 01:43:52,479 --> 01:43:55,759 Speaker 5: these young guys that are coming from college, these rookies, 2319 01:43:56,160 --> 01:43:59,080 Speaker 5: they're season's over, right, College is over right now? You 2320 01:43:59,120 --> 01:44:01,000 Speaker 5: know they got one more bowl game of course, well 2321 01:44:01,280 --> 01:44:04,040 Speaker 5: you know the playoffs are coming up, but like college 2322 01:44:04,080 --> 01:44:06,880 Speaker 5: season's over. You know, the number of games right now 2323 01:44:07,000 --> 01:44:10,160 Speaker 5: has well eclipsed the number of games that any one 2324 01:44:10,200 --> 01:44:11,200 Speaker 5: of these guys played in college. 2325 01:44:11,240 --> 01:44:12,960 Speaker 2: No college is trying to catch up with the playoffs. 2326 01:44:13,280 --> 01:44:18,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, but for a guy that you know, he even 2327 01:44:18,800 --> 01:44:21,479 Speaker 5: said it too, I'm gonna be out there regardless, you know, 2328 01:44:21,560 --> 01:44:23,280 Speaker 5: And that says a lot to him. And you know, 2329 01:44:23,840 --> 01:44:25,840 Speaker 5: I don't know if the guys here you know the 2330 01:44:25,960 --> 01:44:28,760 Speaker 5: audio from you know what Burns is saying, But that 2331 01:44:29,200 --> 01:44:30,840 Speaker 5: might be a clip that you want to play in 2332 01:44:30,920 --> 01:44:33,000 Speaker 5: front of the locker room, you know, around your guys 2333 01:44:33,040 --> 01:44:36,240 Speaker 5: and be like, this guy's beat up. He's battling one 2334 01:44:36,240 --> 01:44:38,680 Speaker 5: of the highest paid players in the league. But he's 2335 01:44:38,760 --> 01:44:41,920 Speaker 5: playing like he's playing for his job, like he's playing 2336 01:44:42,000 --> 01:44:44,320 Speaker 5: like he was undrafted. He's playing like he's trying to 2337 01:44:44,360 --> 01:44:44,800 Speaker 5: make the team. 2338 01:44:44,880 --> 01:44:45,880 Speaker 1: So I want to give it. I want to say 2339 01:44:45,920 --> 01:44:49,960 Speaker 1: something real quick because I dance. Alimon retweets our injury 2340 01:44:50,000 --> 01:44:52,080 Speaker 1: report every Friday and Saturday. 2341 01:44:51,720 --> 01:44:53,400 Speaker 2: On Twitter on X part of me. 2342 01:44:53,920 --> 01:44:56,840 Speaker 1: And last night he put out there how Cordell Flow 2343 01:44:56,920 --> 01:44:59,160 Speaker 1: was added to the injury report. Later it was fighting 2344 01:44:59,160 --> 01:45:01,960 Speaker 1: on whatever it was, and I retweeted and made the comment. 2345 01:45:02,080 --> 01:45:05,120 Speaker 1: The list continues to grow. And then somebody replied to 2346 01:45:05,200 --> 01:45:07,600 Speaker 1: the tweet and they were like, oh, you know, all 2347 01:45:07,680 --> 01:45:09,760 Speaker 1: these guys and an injury list. I guess you know, 2348 01:45:09,920 --> 01:45:12,120 Speaker 1: guys are trustarting to pack it in because the team's 2349 01:45:12,160 --> 01:45:14,880 Speaker 1: not winning games. And I think we see what Brian Burns, 2350 01:45:14,960 --> 01:45:17,960 Speaker 1: we saw Melik Neighbors today that even with these guys 2351 01:45:18,040 --> 01:45:19,920 Speaker 1: being banged up, they're continuing to go out there and 2352 01:45:20,000 --> 01:45:23,760 Speaker 1: play and they are trying to win football games. That's 2353 01:45:24,120 --> 01:45:27,040 Speaker 1: how the NFL, A good NFL culture works. That's the 2354 01:45:27,080 --> 01:45:30,400 Speaker 1: culture the Giants have in that locker room where guys 2355 01:45:30,439 --> 01:45:32,720 Speaker 1: are playing even though they are still banged up, which 2356 01:45:32,760 --> 01:45:33,479 Speaker 1: I think is really good. 2357 01:45:33,600 --> 01:45:36,200 Speaker 5: And Myliku Neighbors said it, he said, nobody's really one 2358 01:45:36,280 --> 01:45:38,360 Speaker 5: hundred percent right now. There's no one in the NFL 2359 01:45:38,439 --> 01:45:40,760 Speaker 5: right now unless you're coming off the street. You know, 2360 01:45:40,960 --> 01:45:43,320 Speaker 5: that's one hundred percent. You know, you got something going 2361 01:45:43,360 --> 01:45:46,280 Speaker 5: on that's ailing you at whatever, from practice or a 2362 01:45:46,360 --> 01:45:48,639 Speaker 5: game a month ago, whatever the case is. You don't 2363 01:45:48,680 --> 01:45:51,880 Speaker 5: really heal during a season. You know, you just figure 2364 01:45:51,920 --> 01:45:55,200 Speaker 5: out a way to play with whatever you have, you know, 2365 01:45:55,400 --> 01:45:57,320 Speaker 5: and you got to tip your hat to those guys 2366 01:45:57,400 --> 01:45:59,920 Speaker 5: that came out and played. And a guy like Brian Burns, 2367 01:46:00,040 --> 01:46:02,400 Speaker 5: who you know he may not show up in the 2368 01:46:02,960 --> 01:46:06,720 Speaker 5: you know, the stat sheet. But he's so impactful for 2369 01:46:06,880 --> 01:46:09,479 Speaker 5: this team. He's such a great leader and the Giants 2370 01:46:09,520 --> 01:46:10,760 Speaker 5: are lucky to have a guy like that in this 2371 01:46:10,880 --> 01:46:11,280 Speaker 5: locker room. 2372 01:46:11,360 --> 01:46:14,280 Speaker 2: All right, guys, let's do some thoughts of the next opponent. 2373 01:46:15,120 --> 01:46:15,960 Speaker 2: It's not the Saints. 2374 01:46:17,320 --> 01:46:20,400 Speaker 1: Here comes the Ravens off of a bye where if 2375 01:46:20,439 --> 01:46:22,519 Speaker 1: you look at some of the advanced metrics like dvoa 2376 01:46:22,760 --> 01:46:25,240 Speaker 1: EPA per playing things like that, might be the best 2377 01:46:25,280 --> 01:46:27,479 Speaker 1: offense in the history of the National Football League. That's 2378 01:46:27,520 --> 01:46:30,280 Speaker 1: not hyperbole. That's how good they've been this year, especially 2379 01:46:30,400 --> 01:46:33,360 Speaker 1: running the football. You look at just all of those 2380 01:46:33,479 --> 01:46:36,439 Speaker 1: numbers put together. He ain't kicking Henry for nothing. Yes, 2381 01:46:36,560 --> 01:46:39,200 Speaker 1: and Lamar Jackson is having an MVP caliber year two 2382 01:46:39,280 --> 01:46:42,800 Speaker 1: with his numbers too. So it was a scrappy performance today. 2383 01:46:43,439 --> 01:46:45,360 Speaker 1: But the Saints do not have Lamar Jackson, they do 2384 01:46:45,439 --> 01:46:47,599 Speaker 1: not have Derrick Henry, they do not even have Za Flower. 2385 01:46:47,760 --> 01:46:51,000 Speaker 1: So what's the challenge next week, Paul against one of 2386 01:46:51,080 --> 01:46:53,280 Speaker 1: the best offenses in football? Come here, now, the defense 2387 01:46:53,320 --> 01:46:54,880 Speaker 1: of the story, we could talk about that, but one 2388 01:46:54,880 --> 01:46:57,680 Speaker 1: of the best offensives in football, certainly, Yeah, you know. 2389 01:46:58,240 --> 01:47:02,000 Speaker 16: It's incredibly admirable to know that the Giants front seven 2390 01:47:02,120 --> 01:47:04,240 Speaker 16: did what they did to hold the Saints to under 2391 01:47:04,240 --> 01:47:07,520 Speaker 16: one hundred yards rushing Kamara under fifty. 2392 01:47:07,280 --> 01:47:08,920 Speaker 2: And Kamar has been one of the best baskeub league 2393 01:47:08,920 --> 01:47:09,200 Speaker 2: this year. 2394 01:47:10,000 --> 01:47:13,519 Speaker 16: That says an awful awful lot for these guys. But 2395 01:47:13,880 --> 01:47:16,840 Speaker 16: they were fighting someone similar to their weight class today. 2396 01:47:17,560 --> 01:47:22,040 Speaker 16: Now you're talking about people who are heavyweight championship caliber 2397 01:47:22,160 --> 01:47:26,840 Speaker 16: in the Baltimore Ravens. It's gonna be one heck of 2398 01:47:26,880 --> 01:47:29,479 Speaker 16: a challenge. The coaches are gonna have their work cut 2399 01:47:29,520 --> 01:47:33,240 Speaker 16: out for them all week. The question that remains is 2400 01:47:33,760 --> 01:47:36,960 Speaker 16: how many of the veterans who could not make it today, 2401 01:47:37,439 --> 01:47:42,120 Speaker 16: Bobby Okarrike Natcho, how many of these guys are gonna 2402 01:47:42,120 --> 01:47:42,840 Speaker 16: be able to make it. 2403 01:47:42,920 --> 01:47:43,679 Speaker 2: Back next week? 2404 01:47:43,720 --> 01:47:45,680 Speaker 1: And have about the guys that went out today like 2405 01:47:45,840 --> 01:47:47,840 Speaker 1: running in Schmidt's, are they gonna be able to play? 2406 01:47:47,920 --> 01:47:49,120 Speaker 2: Oh no, don't know. 2407 01:47:50,320 --> 01:47:53,040 Speaker 5: So there's opportunity there. Like you said, you said about 2408 01:47:53,040 --> 01:47:56,439 Speaker 5: their defense, their bottom in the league in well, bottom ten, 2409 01:47:56,520 --> 01:47:58,040 Speaker 5: bottom third in the league. 2410 01:47:58,920 --> 01:48:01,320 Speaker 2: They're bad defense, But you got to keep up with 2411 01:48:01,360 --> 01:48:01,880 Speaker 2: their offense. 2412 01:48:02,120 --> 01:48:04,560 Speaker 5: That's problem. Their offense. They're gonna score points. You know, 2413 01:48:04,640 --> 01:48:06,559 Speaker 5: even if the Giants have a record game, and even 2414 01:48:06,560 --> 01:48:08,800 Speaker 5: if they turn the ball over a lot on you know, 2415 01:48:08,960 --> 01:48:11,080 Speaker 5: for the Baltimore, they're still gonna score some points. 2416 01:48:11,160 --> 01:48:13,120 Speaker 1: If you punt eight times next week, you're losing by 2417 01:48:13,120 --> 01:48:15,320 Speaker 1: thirty or forty points. As you can't be He can't 2418 01:48:15,360 --> 01:48:17,000 Speaker 1: be punting eight times like you. You you need to 2419 01:48:17,120 --> 01:48:18,360 Speaker 1: be scoring. You need to score. 2420 01:48:20,360 --> 01:48:21,920 Speaker 2: Points. You have to if you want to come away 2421 01:48:21,920 --> 01:48:23,960 Speaker 2: with a win. I wonder you guys still think lock next. 2422 01:48:23,840 --> 01:48:28,439 Speaker 16: Week as long as his foot's okay, you know, I 2423 01:48:28,560 --> 01:48:31,439 Speaker 16: know you guys had his audio earlier in the program. 2424 01:48:32,000 --> 01:48:34,880 Speaker 16: He he had gone for an exam on his foot 2425 01:48:35,000 --> 01:48:37,760 Speaker 16: after the game. I believe he told everybody he felt 2426 01:48:37,800 --> 01:48:41,879 Speaker 16: he was okay. Let's just hope that no other soreness 2427 01:48:41,960 --> 01:48:44,479 Speaker 16: develops over the course of the next couple of days 2428 01:48:44,840 --> 01:48:47,160 Speaker 16: so that he has the opportunity and they can make 2429 01:48:47,200 --> 01:48:49,960 Speaker 16: a decision as to whether or not Locke gets another shot. 2430 01:48:50,439 --> 01:48:53,120 Speaker 2: I would probably say yes, as long as he's okay 2431 01:48:53,200 --> 01:48:53,320 Speaker 2: to go. 2432 01:48:54,439 --> 01:48:58,720 Speaker 5: The Giants have to play better disciplined football because if 2433 01:48:58,760 --> 01:49:01,120 Speaker 5: they play like that with all the penalties we talked 2434 01:49:01,120 --> 01:49:03,880 Speaker 5: about twenty five penalties in the last two weeks. You 2435 01:49:03,960 --> 01:49:07,439 Speaker 5: said it earlier and you know the Baltimore Look, they 2436 01:49:07,520 --> 01:49:10,759 Speaker 5: lost some games, but you know they're gonna score points. 2437 01:49:10,760 --> 01:49:12,240 Speaker 5: Their offense is prolific. 2438 01:49:12,360 --> 01:49:15,639 Speaker 28: Oh, the Ravens are a legitimate threat to the greatest 2439 01:49:15,760 --> 01:49:21,280 Speaker 28: talents at quarterback we've ever seen in a real Bell 2440 01:49:21,400 --> 01:49:24,599 Speaker 28: cow stallion running back in Derek. 2441 01:49:24,400 --> 01:49:27,559 Speaker 1: Henry, I mean Derreck Henry right now, if he retired tomorrow, 2442 01:49:27,600 --> 01:49:29,040 Speaker 1: he'd probably be a top ten running back in the 2443 01:49:29,080 --> 01:49:29,719 Speaker 1: history of the league. 2444 01:49:29,760 --> 01:49:31,880 Speaker 2: That's what the type of player he's been. And he 2445 01:49:31,920 --> 01:49:33,479 Speaker 2: hasn't lost much of a statis he. 2446 01:49:33,640 --> 01:49:36,559 Speaker 5: Gets stronger later in games. They play with a lot 2447 01:49:36,600 --> 01:49:40,080 Speaker 5: of leads, even though their defense is not great, but 2448 01:49:40,200 --> 01:49:42,600 Speaker 5: they figure out ways to finish games. The Giants have 2449 01:49:42,720 --> 01:49:46,080 Speaker 5: to play a more disciplined brand of football to actually 2450 01:49:46,120 --> 01:49:47,160 Speaker 5: give themselves a chance. 2451 01:49:47,920 --> 01:49:51,720 Speaker 16: He's one of those rare guys for everybody watching it 2452 01:49:51,840 --> 01:49:54,720 Speaker 16: home and in the stadium knows he's getting the ball 2453 01:49:54,920 --> 01:49:57,439 Speaker 16: doesn't matter, and he still gets positive yard head it 2454 01:49:57,479 --> 01:50:02,439 Speaker 16: doesn't matter. It's very, very, very difficult man to bring 2455 01:50:02,600 --> 01:50:02,800 Speaker 16: and we. 2456 01:50:02,760 --> 01:50:04,360 Speaker 2: Will have an entire week to talk about that. 2457 01:50:04,439 --> 01:50:06,120 Speaker 1: So maybe if you guys check out it, Thank you JC, 2458 01:50:06,320 --> 01:50:07,800 Speaker 1: thank you Paul, you guys will have a chance to 2459 01:50:07,880 --> 01:50:09,439 Speaker 1: chockt out to our programming this week on Big Blue 2460 01:50:09,479 --> 01:50:11,759 Speaker 1: Kickoff Live, twelve thirty Giants dot Com on the Giants 2461 01:50:11,800 --> 01:50:15,920 Speaker 1: Bibile Lap every weekday afternoon this week and just three 2462 01:50:16,000 --> 01:50:18,400 Speaker 1: one the quickly update you before you say goodbye on 2463 01:50:18,520 --> 01:50:21,000 Speaker 1: the late game scores the Seahawks League the Cardinals twenty 2464 01:50:21,080 --> 01:50:23,720 Speaker 1: seven to eighteen. Zach Scharbonae a couple of touchdowns in 2465 01:50:23,800 --> 01:50:26,160 Speaker 1: that game, rams all over the Bills. I don't know 2466 01:50:26,200 --> 01:50:27,760 Speaker 1: what's going on with the Bills defense, but they are 2467 01:50:27,760 --> 01:50:30,960 Speaker 1: getting shellack thirty eight to twenty one with eighteen seconds 2468 01:50:31,040 --> 01:50:33,960 Speaker 1: to go. Phukanakou one hundred and twenty four receiving yards 2469 01:50:34,000 --> 01:50:36,719 Speaker 1: in that one. The forty nine ers are dominating the Bears. 2470 01:50:36,760 --> 01:50:39,400 Speaker 1: They're looking at the old forty nine ers twenty four 2471 01:50:39,720 --> 01:50:43,800 Speaker 1: to six. Earlier today, the Dolphins won lad against the Jets. Jaguars, 2472 01:50:43,840 --> 01:50:45,400 Speaker 1: as the color mentioned, did beat the Titans. Sound the 2473 01:50:45,479 --> 01:50:48,320 Speaker 1: Raiders and the Giants the only teams of two wins 2474 01:50:48,400 --> 01:50:52,200 Speaker 1: now in the National Football League. I know some fans 2475 01:50:52,240 --> 01:50:54,720 Speaker 1: are curious in the draft position, which is why I 2476 01:50:54,840 --> 01:50:58,280 Speaker 1: gave that particular score. Giants Extra Point is brought to 2477 01:50:58,320 --> 01:51:00,759 Speaker 1: you by Citizens, the Official Bank the New York Giants. 2478 01:51:00,760 --> 01:51:03,560 Speaker 1: Citizens has made ready for Giants fans, Hackensack, Murdy and 2479 01:51:03,600 --> 01:51:06,400 Speaker 1: health keep getting better Hereless Boilers the world's best bill 2480 01:51:06,439 --> 01:51:11,400 Speaker 1: boilers and by Moody's Decode Risk, Unlock Opportunity, Learn Moore 2481 01:51:11,479 --> 01:51:15,280 Speaker 1: at moodys dot com. Thank you for being with us today, everyone, 2482 01:51:15,520 --> 01:51:18,679 Speaker 1: to our entire crew, to Bob Popacrawl Banks and Howard 2483 01:51:18,720 --> 01:51:22,439 Speaker 1: Cross and everyone that helped make this broadcast possible. That's 2484 01:51:22,479 --> 01:51:25,920 Speaker 1: it from MetLife Stadium. The Giants fall to two and eleven. 2485 01:51:26,160 --> 01:51:29,880 Speaker 1: They dropped this game to the Saints fourteen to eleven. 2486 01:51:30,120 --> 01:51:33,040 Speaker 1: We'll see you next week, Sunday, eleven am. Pre game 2487 01:51:33,439 --> 01:51:35,639 Speaker 1: Giants and Ravens right here for MetLife Stadium. 2488 01:51:35,800 --> 01:51:36,759 Speaker 2: Have a good week, everybody,