Speaker 1: It is Monday, November nine. This is Jaguars Happy Hour.
Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hours presented by Jet Home Loans and now
Speaker 1: current show host future place kicker Jay Peace. Little on
Speaker 1: any part of that. Welcome in Jaguars Happy Hour Monday.
Speaker 1: After a loss to the Texans, JP Shadrick, Pete Prisco,
Speaker 1: Tony Boselli coming up. Here's what else is coming up
Speaker 1: on the show. A recap of Jake Luton's debut is
Speaker 1: NFL debut yesterday. Let a drive down the field in
Speaker 1: a two minute situation. Scored a rushing touchdown with a
Speaker 1: stiff form and a spin move to get in the
Speaker 1: end zone. But the two point trial was complete. Easy
Speaker 1: hold on. Let me finish the intro, defensive changes, some
Speaker 1: different rotations, the second half about to begin next week,
Speaker 1: and green Bay social media questions. In the second hour,
Speaker 1: we'll go around the a FC South, the not so
Speaker 1: Powerful rankings, and the National Football League. In week number nine,
Speaker 1: the biggest story of the day that the view of
Speaker 1: rookie quarterback Jake Luton. Let's say, before we get to YouTube,
Speaker 1: let's hear from head coach Doug Moron after the game
Speaker 1: yesterday his reaction to his rookie quarterback. Well, we'll take one,
Speaker 1: one thing at a time. I think that, you know,
Speaker 1: I was impressed with a lot of things, you know,
Speaker 1: just to plays in and out no delay games. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, I thought he made some really nice throws.
Speaker 1: I thought that's something that obviously you're gonna want to
Speaker 1: have back. I think you know, when you're first time
Speaker 1: starting and you know you're down by a score and
Speaker 1: a two point conversion and lead your team down the field,
Speaker 1: uh too, you know potentially you know, tie the game
Speaker 1: with a two point conversion, I think you know that
Speaker 1: that's a that's another checkmark. So you know, there's a
Speaker 1: lot of check marks, and everyone's gonna ask me. I
Speaker 1: got asked on the radio show, which I do prior
Speaker 1: to this. And you know, Gardner right now is not rolling,
Speaker 1: so there's no decision really to make right now. So
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not you know, I'm not really looking
Speaker 1: at the future because, um, you know, I'm it's gonna
Speaker 1: take me a while to get over this one. Kind
Speaker 1: of pissed. Yeah, Well, head coach Doug Brown after the
Speaker 1: game yesterday, the losing result five. There was some controversial
Speaker 1: calls in that game that did not go the Jaguars
Speaker 1: way as well. We'll hear from her own well, he
Speaker 1: didn't say a lot about it, and again today about
Speaker 1: some of those calls, Pie Prisco, Tony Boselli coming up
Speaker 1: in just a moment, we'll get them back on the line.
Speaker 1: But the Jags offense started with Jake Luton yesterday and
Speaker 1: on the third play, a seventy three yard touchdown passed
Speaker 1: the d J. Chark Jr. Set the tone. Unfortunately, the
Speaker 1: second player the day for the Texans. They countered back
Speaker 1: with the game tying score and it was game on
Speaker 1: from that point the Jags. They gave up a couple
Speaker 1: of field goals to the Texans and then uh touchdown
Speaker 1: before halftime. It was a twenty thirteen h half time
Speaker 1: or twenty to sixteen halftime score after the fifty nine
Speaker 1: yard field goal from Lambeau. There in the final seconds, um,
Speaker 1: you know penalties. We there was a fifty yard penalty
Speaker 1: on a pass interference on C. J. Henderson in the
Speaker 1: game and then a delay of game call that was
Speaker 1: not cold on a seventy seven yard touchdown for the
Speaker 1: Houston Texans. One turnover for each side. James Robinson ran
Speaker 1: the ball for ninety nine yards. Yesterday Chart had a
Speaker 1: big at least yardage game due in part to that
Speaker 1: seventy three yard or early in the game. And Luton
Speaker 1: finished today or thirty eight passing three four yards, the
Speaker 1: touchdown an interception, and he had that rushing touchdown on
Speaker 1: the final drive thirteen yards where yes, he's stiff armed
Speaker 1: a guy. Yes, he spun around another inside the five
Speaker 1: and got into the end zone. And he was on
Speaker 1: the postgame radio show with with Fred Taylor last night
Speaker 1: Jeff Logman, Dempsey and I and Fred said where did
Speaker 1: you get that from? He said, well, guess watching you
Speaker 1: all those years. You know. Of course, we'll see what
Speaker 1: Tony and Pete have to say about that coming up.
Speaker 1: But first time out for Luton, and remember too, it
Speaker 1: is the first action he's had in the NFL. No
Speaker 1: preseason games, there was no offseason program, no O T
Speaker 1: A s. The last time he called a play at
Speaker 1: a huddle in a in an heightened environment if you
Speaker 1: even count training camp as a heightened environment, was in
Speaker 1: training camp. Well, this is the first time under the
Speaker 1: lights against an opposing team in the NFL, and Luton
Speaker 1: did fairly well. Now on the other side, there were
Speaker 1: three passes that should have been intercepted and maybe a
Speaker 1: fourth that was on defenders hands as well. So you know,
Speaker 1: some some good and some bad from Luton in yesterday's game.
Speaker 1: Um as we said, twelve targets to Chart to try
Speaker 1: to feed him a good bit. There was a drop
Speaker 1: by Chart, but he had that big the long one
Speaker 1: early in the game. Robinson, as we said, ninety nine yards.
Speaker 1: Chris Connelly had seven catches for fifty two and Tyler,
Speaker 1: if it was really for the first time this year,
Speaker 1: a part of the plan in the game and made
Speaker 1: some catches five targets, four receptions and forty eight yards
Speaker 1: for the Jack for the Jacks tight end, who had
Speaker 1: been out a little bit with a neck issue over
Speaker 1: the last few weeks, but back in command or on
Speaker 1: the field at least this week with the Jake Luton
Speaker 1: in command defensively for the Jacksonville Jaguars. As we you
Speaker 1: know mentioned they gave up that early touchdown on the
Speaker 1: opening drive and they they broke the thirty points streak
Speaker 1: five the final score, so the first time in a
Speaker 1: while the Jacks have not given up thirty points in
Speaker 1: a game. Miles Jack had eleven tackles, including a tackle
Speaker 1: for loss, and caused a forced bumble in that game.
Speaker 1: Pete Prisco, Tony Boselli, are you back with us now? No,
Speaker 1: they are not back. I heard them for a moment.
Speaker 1: Are you there? Yea, as a few weren't there. Welcome
Speaker 1: to your own radio show. Good to be with you, guys.
Speaker 1: We had a gun nice conversation. We had all kinds
Speaker 1: of stuff. Were we on the air? No, not at all.
Speaker 1: Some of the best stuff we've done save it for
Speaker 1: the podcast later. That's great bonus material. So all right,
Speaker 1: let's start with Luton. You guys laughed at the stiff
Speaker 1: arm and the spin for the touchdown, But how beyond that?
Speaker 1: What would you make of Luton's day yesterday? I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tell you exactly with people like I thought about this
Speaker 1: shape because I'm god, we got the show. Jack's lost,
Speaker 1: okay Luton? Let me think. Here's Pete Friscoe, So yeah,
Speaker 1: I told you, fucking Jake Luton sitting in the pocket,
Speaker 1: stepping up, big arms, six six fires. The football can
Speaker 1: play from the pocket, can make play Like Pete loved
Speaker 1: Jake Luton yesterday. He was enamored by Jake Luton. Now
Speaker 1: with that said, I'll give I'll give the kid credit.
Speaker 1: No preseason, no t a S six round draft pick,
Speaker 1: no reps at all. I mean, he made some really
Speaker 1: good like you can't argue the kid has a huge arm,
Speaker 1: huge arm. And the one thing that was most impressive
Speaker 1: to me, Pete all joking aside, is his ability to
Speaker 1: step up in the pocket and not get rattled. Now,
Speaker 1: you could not have picked a better team to play,
Speaker 1: but the awful Houston Texans with the awful pass us
Speaker 1: with no linebackers, just atrocious of you know, defense, and
Speaker 1: they couldn't rush the pastor and so he was comfortable
Speaker 1: back there and the offensive line played very very well.
Speaker 1: Now the question will be this week when they played
Speaker 1: Green Bay and it's a track meet and they got
Speaker 1: you know, the Smith brothers coming after him and the
Speaker 1: rushing the passer. And then the following week when you're
Speaker 1: playing the Pittsburgh Steelers, who might be the best pass
Speaker 1: rushing team in the NFL with Cam Heyward to it,
Speaker 1: t J. Watt and Bud Duprie. And don't forget tyson
Speaker 1: al Lala that we got rid of. That's not a
Speaker 1: high level um, you know, So it'll be different but
Speaker 1: for what the kid was asked to do. I thought
Speaker 1: he played well. I did too, and I was impressed
Speaker 1: with him. Uh. Look, even on the first place, the
Speaker 1: first long past the chart, go look at the player underneath.
Speaker 1: The guy's open underneath. We know somebody in that building
Speaker 1: that would have taken the underneath throw and not taking
Speaker 1: the shot down the field. He took the shot. I
Speaker 1: give him all the credit in the world. He made
Speaker 1: some throws that should have been interceptions. Let's let's be
Speaker 1: honest about it. Should have been a couple of picks.
Speaker 1: So here's the but I'll say that should have been
Speaker 1: four interceptions. There was one. There should have been four.
Speaker 1: Two would have been on him. The other was tip
Speaker 1: balls that so he had made. And now in one
Speaker 1: of them I would love to know from calmly because
Speaker 1: he started in common, he threw the out commedy went in.
Speaker 1: You know, was that comedy on the wrong page? Was it?
Speaker 1: You know? The rookie. I always say, if you don't know,
Speaker 1: playing the rookie. So it's the rookies' fault. By the way,
Speaker 1: the best possible outcome from Sunday any better. You saw
Speaker 1: a quarterback who gave you some hope, maybe maybe he
Speaker 1: can be something. We'll see. It's too early for that,
Speaker 1: right They some young players showed progress. I thought there
Speaker 1: were some young players just stepped up and at two
Speaker 1: point play was no good. That's the greatest thing in
Speaker 1: the world. And let me I on talk the Giants
Speaker 1: one and now that you need to jet the win
Speaker 1: tonight again. I wasna say it might have been said
Speaker 1: in the press box. I might have overheard someone saying
Speaker 1: in the press box, well not name names, that that
Speaker 1: was the greatest. You could not ask for a better outcome.
Speaker 1: And I'll add some things so if you're a fan
Speaker 1: of the Jaguars, not a better outcome. Um quarterback was fun.
Speaker 1: Game was fun, it was competitive. You're in it the
Speaker 1: whole time. It's back and forth, and you lost and
Speaker 1: you maintain your draft position and the Giants one. For
Speaker 1: the record, I was not in the press box. It's
Speaker 1: so bad to say that because you hate as a player.
Speaker 1: Everything in me goes crazy about that, Like it hurts
Speaker 1: that I'm even saying it. But I heard someone say that,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, you said, you said it was probably Tony.
Speaker 1: He said it. He's doing he's doing like every other
Speaker 1: media member in the country. How does I heard said? Yeah,
Speaker 1: heard in the area? Was in the area? Came out
Speaker 1: of your math? You heard it right, J J. P. Yes,
Speaker 1: the area, heard in the box. So yeah, that's him.
Speaker 1: He's he's on the wall. He's the source. Of course,
Speaker 1: maybe you and somebody else said it, but you said
Speaker 1: it too. You're not in your heavy agreement. You didn't agree.
Speaker 1: Why are you saying what? Here's the conflict I have?
Speaker 1: I mean, you're one at seven? Tell me where the
Speaker 1: next wins on this schedules? They're not okay? But which hurts?
Speaker 1: It's no fun and I feel bad for the coaching
Speaker 1: staff and the in the scouts GM. I mean, if
Speaker 1: you're a coach, is there anything you could do? No,
Speaker 1: they're gone, they know it. But there anything like do
Speaker 1: you think coaching is the issue on this team? We're
Speaker 1: we're gone over this. This not that this team is
Speaker 1: not good, but as coaching been, uh better above it,
Speaker 1: beyond what the game and the talent is. We don't
Speaker 1: know that It's hard to evaluate them. I'll give you that.
Speaker 1: It's hard to value. So Bill Belichick was coaching this team,
Speaker 1: anyone's we have. Bill Walsh comes in and starts coaching
Speaker 1: the offense. It's a bad team. It's a bad team,
Speaker 1: so why not. Yeah, I guess my whole point is
Speaker 1: saying is I don't like everyone's been killing. Todd watched.
Speaker 1: I think Todd watched game. By the way, the second
Speaker 1: half was really good. I thought, I mean, but there's
Speaker 1: there's only so many things you can do. They look
Speaker 1: like they blitz more just off the TV, and I
Speaker 1: wanted to I agree, I agree, and which which I
Speaker 1: think they needed to do. What you said young players,
Speaker 1: what young players do you think played well? Thomas played better?
Speaker 1: I thought Thomas was pretty good. Daniel Thomas. I think
Speaker 1: he has a chance. You know, he's really been good
Speaker 1: this your PETE and special teams. I think that's why
Speaker 1: he's getting the chance, is because he's proven, like he's
Speaker 1: a he's a pro, like he he gets it. He
Speaker 1: plays his tail off. Um, I agree with that. I
Speaker 1: thought he played well. I don't think C. J. Henderson
Speaker 1: had that bad a game because I don't either. I
Speaker 1: don't know something. You give up a throw here and there,
Speaker 1: a passing it. He whipped on a tackle that hurt
Speaker 1: late in the game. They got kept the clock moving. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I mean, other than that, I thought he played
Speaker 1: pretty well too, and I think he's gonna be a
Speaker 1: good I think those are good young players to build around.
Speaker 1: Miles Jack he is so good. Yeah, he's playing the best.
Speaker 1: I mean, And it goes back to the old theory.
Speaker 1: Why the hell was he playing in the middle in
Speaker 1: the first place? Because they had other guys? Is who
Speaker 1: they have last year? Yeah? How about this hit? Go
Speaker 1: back and show the hit again, show this hit you.
Speaker 1: There's a there's a playout in the flat on the
Speaker 1: on Johnson running back. Yeah, but going again it, I mean,
Speaker 1: that's he flew to it, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: That looked like a like a Seattle Seahawks body Wagner
Speaker 1: black and it was a clean tackle. It was heads up,
Speaker 1: great play by Miles. I think he's having a Pro
Speaker 1: Bowl year and he might not get any recognition for it.
Speaker 1: I agree, he's done. One of the better linebackers I've
Speaker 1: seen player this year, Absolutely no question about it. All Right,
Speaker 1: let's come back. We've got plenty of head on defense.
Speaker 1: We'll we'll break some of those young guys down a
Speaker 1: lot more on the quarterback. Let's pa quarterback down. Next segment.
Speaker 1: Producer we're talking her back. Apparently, when we come back,
Speaker 1: break it down. I want to break them down, Pete,
Speaker 1: are you okay with that? You want to co produce that.
Speaker 1: I'll always talk quarterback. Okay, if it's okay with you two,
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk quarterback when we come back. We are
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Speaker 1: and new. I felt really good to get out there. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, I felt like we played really hard, and
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Speaker 1: Pete Frisco and producer Tony Boselli. On the program today,
Speaker 1: So hey went before we get to the quarterback and
Speaker 1: bring up another topic. I just saw it during the
Speaker 1: break on Twitter, and we can say it's on Twitter, right,
Speaker 1: it's public form, like there's no like. Right, you're you're
Speaker 1: the producer. You're out on uncharted water right now, you
Speaker 1: go ahead navigate this boat. It's not dirty or anything.
Speaker 1: Go ahead and say it. Okay. So um Jalen Ramsey
Speaker 1: put out like this picture and says next week, let's
Speaker 1: get it, and Jimmy Smith said, looking sweet. And then
Speaker 1: somebody responded to Jimmy Smith, a Jaguar fan, said, let
Speaker 1: me read it exactly. So I messed it up. Um
Speaker 1: would love to have seen him defend You would have
Speaker 1: been epic. He comes back and says, I would damage
Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey's mentally mentally for the rest of the school.
Speaker 1: Jimmy top ropes. They're just saying, let me tell you,
Speaker 1: and here's the thing. If you had to put all
Speaker 1: your money down, it said, um hey. The ram Driman
Speaker 1: co followed Jimmy around man the man single eyed safety
Speaker 1: with um, Jalen, what would happen? Good luck? He would
Speaker 1: abuse them. He would have abused him. He was too
Speaker 1: strong for me would have got his hands off of them.
Speaker 1: He would have run right by him and he was
Speaker 1: too fast right, No way. If Jayla Ramsey comes to
Speaker 1: Jimmy Smith in his prime one on one, he would
Speaker 1: have destroyed. Jimmy wanted to talk to him on the
Speaker 1: field too after he scores, or it was that Jimmy
Speaker 1: z M or no, no, Jimmy just scored. Just go
Speaker 1: back to the others. Yeah, like like and I just
Speaker 1: saw it. It It made me laugh because it's true. Like
Speaker 1: a lot of guys talk smash about other guys and
Speaker 1: it's like, oh whatever, then closed. But that's true, Like
Speaker 1: I really believe that. And I'm not taking anything with
Speaker 1: jim Jalen. Jimmy was one of the greatest receivers I've
Speaker 1: ever played the game. And he was for sure if
Speaker 1: you based it on the best players ever played a position,
Speaker 1: Jimmy se Michigan the Hall of Fame. Now maybe he
Speaker 1: didn't do it as long or whatever. If you're still
Speaker 1: talking about the best, don't get the recognition that he
Speaker 1: was dominant. And this is how I knew he was dominant.
Speaker 1: Hall of guys who are Hall of famers. One ty
Speaker 1: law could not cover Jimmy Smith and Gus Pete. You
Speaker 1: remember Pete. You remember we played when Tyler was at
Speaker 1: the Patriots. We played them. Our game plan was if
Speaker 1: they go man and Tylaw is one on one with Jimmy,
Speaker 1: we're gonna check out if any play where in and
Speaker 1: we're going there. Look all you need is all about
Speaker 1: Here's all you need to know about Jimmy. The Baltimore
Speaker 1: Ravens set the scoring record for six team game season
Speaker 1: and Jimmy had tweeter nineties something yards against them and
Speaker 1: three touchdowns and we scored thirty five points against them.
Speaker 1: I mean, look, he could nobody. Every guy I talked to,
Speaker 1: even like I work with Brian McFadden, they all talked
Speaker 1: about Jimmy, Samario Roll, Jimmy. It's always Jimmy can recover them. No,
Speaker 1: So that was a funny tweet. Sorry that he was done,
Speaker 1: by the way, scored a touchdown for Wyoming Day, But
Speaker 1: that was Jimmy coming off the top ropes. And I hope,
Speaker 1: I hope against all hope, like if there's any like
Speaker 1: if something good can happen. I want Jamen to respond
Speaker 1: to him because Jay Smooth is bringing smoke and I
Speaker 1: need to see love it. Um, that's a nice job, Tony.
Speaker 1: That was very nice story. I like that. Let's get
Speaker 1: to back though, come back. We're gonna do quarterback afterward
Speaker 1: because I got one more thing I need to bring up. Well,
Speaker 1: go ahead, no, Tony, just take over. I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: take the next three minutes off. Go ahead the first minutes. Wow, okay,
Speaker 1: that was the one on the air. You guys weren't
Speaker 1: Pete typical errors on the stage with three guys. You
Speaker 1: guys stink. You guys are awful. You'll never be any good.
Speaker 1: And it was the next game. You are, you're in
Speaker 1: junior college and you could go back to playing Go
Speaker 1: back to playing junior college football. Don't try to come
Speaker 1: with the big boys because we played bad. Don't care
Speaker 1: and still the big boys, the big boys. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: j hey, yeah, we'll get there. When we start cheating
Speaker 1: to like that, we'll be fine. Um e j be.
Speaker 1: It was an exhibition game a because nobody's playing, nobody
Speaker 1: from the pack twelves playing at any title. There was
Speaker 1: no one there at all. No, it was terrible. It's awful.
Speaker 1: And as you choked, you kept on side kicked. The
Speaker 1: game's over. You give me like me. But Tony and
Speaker 1: I'm sure, I'm sure you were the same way as
Speaker 1: I am. You're sitting there watching that and you're like,
Speaker 1: it's nice if they win. What does that mean anything?
Speaker 1: So be if I'm being If I'm being honest, let
Speaker 1: me tell you what I thought about that game. Um,
Speaker 1: I played golf that morning. I came in. It was
Speaker 1: a twelve o'clock kickoff. I got in about twelve thirty
Speaker 1: that down night lunch, watched it for about forty five minutes,
Speaker 1: confided and said, Hey, would you want to go play
Speaker 1: a team more? I said, yep, see yep. I didn't
Speaker 1: watch another So that's how much I cared about that game.
Speaker 1: It was an exhibition game. It was terrible, but I
Speaker 1: was But I'm gonna say this though, Oh here we go,
Speaker 1: coming are cheating like crazy? I know they are. I
Speaker 1: know that that's a young team. That Sun double teams
Speaker 1: made up of all young kids. They gotta be. Every
Speaker 1: time they showed Antonio Pierce, I could think of he's
Speaker 1: going to l A and getting guys. They gotta be. Look,
Speaker 1: I hope they're cheating. I want him to cheat. Give
Speaker 1: me a title. I don't care. Go up a patient.
Speaker 1: Just cheat because that team told they're really young, you
Speaker 1: know that with a bunch of kids on that team?
Speaker 1: What is that? Try? Dad? Playing music like club club
Speaker 1: to selling comes ling and here here I am okay.
Speaker 1: It was nine am by the way to in l A.
Speaker 1: It's a great time to play football. So stupid whoever
Speaker 1: is deciding to play games at nine am? It's dumb.
Speaker 1: They need to change. They need to get their head.
Speaker 1: You know, whatever you're gonna say, No, do what you're
Speaker 1: gonna say. Say it, though, Tony, they need to get
Speaker 1: there what you were about to say? So I'm about
Speaker 1: you were about to go there? It's a family show, Tony.
Speaker 1: What number are you at USC? You were? Yeah? So
Speaker 1: somebody was wearing that on the line. There the only
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Speaker 1: USA dot Com. I felt confident. Uh, you know, we
Speaker 1: talked on the sideline before we came out, and and
Speaker 1: UH just told him like, hey, just do your job.
Speaker 1: If all eleven of us just do our part on
Speaker 1: every play, you know, we don't have to press, we
Speaker 1: don't have to go super fast. Just do your do
Speaker 1: your job and we'll we'll drive it downfield. And we did.
Speaker 1: I thought the guys did really well. Um, I felt good.
Speaker 1: I felt comfortable. Yeah. Jake Luton discussing the final drive
Speaker 1: for the touchdown yesterday and the loss to the Houston
Speaker 1: Texans and welcome back Jaguar's Happy Hour. J P Shadrick,
Speaker 1: Pete Priscoe and Tony Bosellier here today as well, in
Speaker 1: case you haven't noticed. And on that final drive, guys,
Speaker 1: he was five or six for sixty seven yards and
Speaker 1: the thirteen yard score on the ground to cap it off.
Speaker 1: The two point play was no good. And I know
Speaker 1: we we talked about the Texans defense Tony did that's
Speaker 1: what they are, but it's still in a pressure situation.
Speaker 1: He goes and executes a handful of passes and gets
Speaker 1: down the field and gets in the end zone. That
Speaker 1: says something, Pete. I mean, you gotta give credit. It's
Speaker 1: it's his first start and he goes in there and
Speaker 1: does that. I mean, that's impressive. And he did it
Speaker 1: with a lot of I mean he almost looked like
Speaker 1: he had a little swagger to him in that last drive.
Speaker 1: And you want to see that. It wasn't too big
Speaker 1: for him. He's much more athletic than I thought he was.
Speaker 1: I thought he was gonna be Derrick Anderson's statue s
Speaker 1: remember Derrick Anderson from Oregon. He was he was from
Speaker 1: Oregon State and big, tall quarterback and I thought he
Speaker 1: was gonna be a lot like that. He moves around
Speaker 1: much better than I thought he did. I got look,
Speaker 1: I came away impressed. It wasn't wow, He's justin Herbert
Speaker 1: or something like that, but it was impressive for first start.
Speaker 1: That was a good job. So let me ask you a
Speaker 1: a question, Pete yea. If Minshew was healthy, find no
Speaker 1: problem with his finger? Ready to go? Who do you
Speaker 1: start Bluton? No question about it. Yeah, I agree, I'm
Speaker 1: with you. I had this conversation. You don't have to
Speaker 1: make it. I'm like, I'm not saying I'm not saying
Speaker 1: Minshew's ready, so it doesn't I guess it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: But I think it's an interesting conversation to the of
Speaker 1: the point that like, wow, like this kid came in
Speaker 1: in one game, and I'm not saying he's gonna better
Speaker 1: than Minshi. It's one game. I mean, like you know, people,
Speaker 1: people will start game playing, they start figuring out stays.
Speaker 1: You're gonna you know what they're gonna you. You're not
Speaker 1: gonna have a clean pocket all day. There's a lot
Speaker 1: of things. But he did enough, and I'm intrigued enough
Speaker 1: where I want to see more me too. Exactly is
Speaker 1: exactly by the way, maybe j P can get that
Speaker 1: mallet back out and he can break the other thumb
Speaker 1: and then you don't have to worry about it. You said, yeah,
Speaker 1: j P. I mean he did say that he purposely
Speaker 1: heard his finger. He was playing well. Yeah, what I
Speaker 1: said was that he tried to do that in college
Speaker 1: to get an extra year. He insinuated exactly what I said.
Speaker 1: But I know even if if Minja was healthy, healthy,
Speaker 1: I would stay with Luton this week and you'll find
Speaker 1: out a lot about Luton on the road at Lambeau
Speaker 1: Packers Ken like Tony No. But it's still, it's still playing.
Speaker 1: I'm saying, there's no one there for the voiceover. Please
Speaker 1: that would be I've been in there, sitting in there
Speaker 1: in the summer. You look around, you go just is Lambeau.
Speaker 1: It's still He probably doesn't even for me, an old
Speaker 1: guy like me, it's Lamboat for him. It's probably like
Speaker 1: I'll give you a perfect example. I never felt like
Speaker 1: any stadium I ever walked in, like I grew up
Speaker 1: a Bronco fan that like old Mile High was hollow ground.
Speaker 1: Now walking into the first time my rookie here and
Speaker 1: seems like, man, this is cool. It wasn't what it
Speaker 1: made it hard. What made it hard hard? In fact,
Speaker 1: you could hear anything. You're seventy seven thou people screaming
Speaker 1: that ship and you couldn't breathe the air. And I
Speaker 1: couldn't breathe for the first ten minutes of the game.
Speaker 1: Um so, I like, I think the whole home field
Speaker 1: advantage is gone in the NFL right now. Zero. But again,
Speaker 1: it's playing a good team on the road. It's good team, yes,
Speaker 1: and he's gonna be playing a quarterback who's probably gonna
Speaker 1: light the defense up. And I meany and catch up
Speaker 1: model a huge problem. So if he goes up there
Speaker 1: and plays well or does you know, I don't think
Speaker 1: he's winning the game. I just don't think. I think
Speaker 1: Rogers might throw five touchdown passes. But if he throws
Speaker 1: two or three and tries to hang around and make
Speaker 1: some plays, then that's encouraging. That's encouraging. And you know,
Speaker 1: somebody on our one of our show said, oh, he
Speaker 1: got those extra yards and garbage time. There was no,
Speaker 1: there was no garbage time. No, he's within a two
Speaker 1: point play of tying it. That's not garbage time. So
Speaker 1: I'm a pressed. I would keep him in there. And
Speaker 1: if he goes to Green Bay this week, it doesn't
Speaker 1: you know, plays pretty well, I keep him in there
Speaker 1: the rest of the way. How about how about those
Speaker 1: deep out throws. I don't think can make those throws
Speaker 1: he can't. He can't make those throws again. I go
Speaker 1: back to the big long throw to to umar open
Speaker 1: a game. If we show that again, there's an underneath
Speaker 1: guy wide open right there. Call throw the Gardner Minshew makes.
Speaker 1: This is the sort of the kid made the difference
Speaker 1: ment you wouldn't make that throw. And look, I'm not
Speaker 1: piling on Minshew. It's just heat. Don't have what that
Speaker 1: kid has, So find out what you can do with that.
Speaker 1: There's a higher ceiling with that arm, that ability than
Speaker 1: there is with Gardner Minshew and his arm. Sure you
Speaker 1: question the people want to know of Jacksonville were fans
Speaker 1: Pete Prisco, Are you anointing Jake Lewton the frantise quarterback? No? No,
Speaker 1: are you no more? But that's what we do. Pete
Speaker 1: likes what we know. That's why the failed two point
Speaker 1: play was a really good play for the franchise. But
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, the same thing happened last year.
Speaker 1: Meant you got going like it's I mean, that's what
Speaker 1: the in the dangerous and I thought about this, like,
Speaker 1: why think about this? Pet We've been this organizations around
Speaker 1: twenty five years. How many quarterbacks as it had that
Speaker 1: had sustained success, not short term, one time a success.
Speaker 1: How many quarterbacks and years has had have had sustained
Speaker 1: success in this in this organization Brunette, And it wasn't
Speaker 1: it wasn't long, It wasn't a long it wasn't sustained
Speaker 1: for a long time. Five years we counted quarter for
Speaker 1: this it is. That's it, Yeah, that's it. I mean
Speaker 1: he is the only twenty five years we've drafted too.
Speaker 1: We've drafted two first rounders, three first rounders, three top ten,
Speaker 1: three high three high first rounders. We have one and
Speaker 1: it was a traded from for the second or third
Speaker 1: rounder from Philly whatever. He was Burnell yah Bay. But
Speaker 1: again and his was only five years by quarterback standards
Speaker 1: for sustainability, that's not long at all. I'm not saying that,
Speaker 1: but I mean, at least like you knew, right. Let
Speaker 1: me say it differently, how many quarterbacks I've been on
Speaker 1: this team when you went out of one season and
Speaker 1: you came back in the next season, you knew you
Speaker 1: had your franchise quarterback and you were good to go.
Speaker 1: One one would you count Gerrard and that even though
Speaker 1: they were a running team and you know what, Tony
Speaker 1: now David had a nice year, don't get me wrong,
Speaker 1: and I like David, but you never felt like David
Speaker 1: was the franchise guy. No, he was fighting first job.
Speaker 1: It seems every year. But the other thing is is, okay,
Speaker 1: of the five, what was what was Mark's last year?
Speaker 1: And Jack? But he wasn't the guy. He was the
Speaker 1: guy in d two thousand one, two thousand two, eight years,
Speaker 1: two thousand three left. Yeah, yeah, but the last couple
Speaker 1: of it was like two thousand three he was there
Speaker 1: to two thousand four, he was three was his last
Speaker 1: season here? Yes? Yeah, it's seven seasons then seventh season
Speaker 1: six yeah, and yeah and you and that's what they
Speaker 1: had a franchise quarterback, and they had a franchise quarterback
Speaker 1: that never threw more than twenty touched out fast different then,
Speaker 1: I know, but that's still that number. That number is
Speaker 1: not when you look at that now, that's like, wow,
Speaker 1: he played today with those receivers, We're not going to
Speaker 1: throw thirty five touchdown there. Well, he would have run
Speaker 1: for a thousand yards too. Yeah, he'd have been perfect
Speaker 1: down that fact. And he said stay in the pocket,
Speaker 1: stay in the pocket. Yeah. Back then, uh, J P.
Speaker 1: Prisco was writing articles every day. Doesn't stay in the
Speaker 1: pocket long, uses his legs too much. He's dynamic. No,
Speaker 1: he did. Hey, I love watching Brunel, But Brunet was
Speaker 1: a better quarterback at nine than he wasn't ninety six
Speaker 1: because he stayed in the pocket, Pete, correct, didn't run
Speaker 1: as much. You don't play with that. Yeah, he was better,
Speaker 1: but not because of that. Yeah, that was part of it. No,
Speaker 1: it wasn't. Yes, it was when he was making all
Speaker 1: those he was like a young player. One read and
Speaker 1: get out a lot of times. And when we got
Speaker 1: out and went to the left side, you gave up
Speaker 1: the sack. You gave him a looker listens to this show,
Speaker 1: and he knows, he knows he got that look from
Speaker 1: you a couple of times. No, he was. No, but
Speaker 1: he was in today's NFL when people they were people
Speaker 1: like you were killing them for running. Now he is
Speaker 1: one of the greatest quarterbacks. Like he like that. That's
Speaker 1: what the league is now is what he did back then. Correct,
Speaker 1: he ran. But the bigger the bigger story here, Pete
Speaker 1: is we're talking about Jake and like everyone's so desperate
Speaker 1: that have a franchise quarterback who Yeah, no, but my points,
Speaker 1: we get ready, like maybe he's it, Maybe he's the guy,
Speaker 1: maybe he can do it, Like it's so early, don't
Speaker 1: do to him number one. But the reason is is
Speaker 1: we've had one guy, right, one like this that's amazing.
Speaker 1: But that's amazing about it is you've had one guy
Speaker 1: in twenty five years. But like you said, there's three
Speaker 1: top dead nicks that have been blown on it. Three incredible, right,
Speaker 1: I mean it really is. Um So they have a
Speaker 1: Jake Luten getting to start. How about the other guys
Speaker 1: on offense yesterday James Robinson yard day twenty five touches.
Speaker 1: Chark was targeted twelve times and I had seven catches
Speaker 1: in the game, including that long one. How about those
Speaker 1: guys yesterday and Ifford for the first time. I bet
Speaker 1: if you went and masked uh DJ Chark and you said, here,
Speaker 1: we're gonna put you on the line detector. You want
Speaker 1: Jake Luton is your quarterback? No, we'll go back to man.
Speaker 1: Of course he wants Luten. You know again, a little
Speaker 1: bit of electric shock when you love Nurse Ratchet given
Speaker 1: it to you. Great. Yeah, you know what you know
Speaker 1: what it is, Pete is Yeah, I don't want to
Speaker 1: do this where your kids were killing Gardner. But he
Speaker 1: put balls where guys can make plays afterwards, like that,
Speaker 1: like that deep ball was in strine where he could
Speaker 1: just run away. This stuff like on time throwing out
Speaker 1: hitting them in the flat immediately let him get a
Speaker 1: field like it just had a different zip to the
Speaker 1: tight throw to effort and traffic there on the side.
Speaker 1: Brow that was a tough throw. One criticism of them
Speaker 1: is he stays on his primary too too long. That
Speaker 1: there's no rookie I know, but you wouldn't agree with that.
Speaker 1: Pete he had never played in an NFL game. He
Speaker 1: had practiced with the ones since August. He didn't even
Speaker 1: know how to say the plays. He's played NFL snaps
Speaker 1: of any kind. They all yesterday. And he's like when
Speaker 1: Herbert went in when he was told right before game
Speaker 1: time that Tyrod Taylor wasn't gonna play. He went in
Speaker 1: and he picked it up right away and what came
Speaker 1: off this first three. So there's a difference. There's a difference.
Speaker 1: You're a justin Herbert Lomer. No, I'm just I am.
Speaker 1: I am by the way to him and Joe Burrow
Speaker 1: and Joe Burrow and to it look good on. We'll
Speaker 1: talk about the wrestling later see two him. But I
Speaker 1: want to hear your perspective. Go ahead, No, I was
Speaker 1: just gonna say there, Look, I'm being nippicky on the
Speaker 1: kid making his first start. I get it, but those
Speaker 1: are things that next time, now that he's played a game,
Speaker 1: when he goes to Green Bay, get off your primary quicker.
Speaker 1: You would agree with that, right, Tony, that would be progress. Yes,
Speaker 1: what if he goes and has like a nice little
Speaker 1: end of season run where he throws for three hundred
Speaker 1: yards and twenty touchdowns three per game and twenty touchdowns,
Speaker 1: he might win some Well, what have you lost every game?
Speaker 1: Yeah you pick, you pick Trevor Lawrence, but you got
Speaker 1: the Jets winning a game then yeah you do. Wow.
Speaker 1: How many things that put that out there will pick
Speaker 1: first and take Trevor laws So you're saying you wouldn't
Speaker 1: take Trevor Lawrence to get the first pick he had dark, Right,
Speaker 1: I would. We don't look at what the second pick.
Speaker 1: That's an exact same scenario. I would probably take justin
Speaker 1: fields because of course I'm hesitant. I haven't watched enough
Speaker 1: of them, but I think I take them based on
Speaker 1: what I've seen. I'd take them. He stays primary too
Speaker 1: long too, by the way, and you're so full of crap.
Speaker 1: I went and watched the kid from b y U.
Speaker 1: He's good. He played well this week. He played. He's good.
Speaker 1: He's skinny. He's the best four teen yeard quarterback i've
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Speaker 1: I mean I didn't see it. There's only one person
Speaker 1: responsible for you know, That's that's what he you know,
Speaker 1: the back judge is responsible for the play clock. The
Speaker 1: other the other officials don't look at it. Only one person.
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Speaker 1: That's Doug Moron after the game when I asked about
Speaker 1: the non call on delay of game on the seventies
Speaker 1: seven yard touchdown, and he's somewhat echoed those comments today.
Speaker 1: Welcome Back Jaguars Happy Hour j P, Shadrick Pete Frisco,
Speaker 1: Tony Vasselly. Let's start with that one that one was
Speaker 1: what at least two beats two seconds after the play
Speaker 1: clock went to zero and no flag. Well, you'll notice
Speaker 1: when we get to the power rankings, it will be reflected. Basically,
Speaker 1: this was embarrassing. Power one gotta gotta start reflecting the draft.
Speaker 1: Don't do that to him Number one. Um, how do
Speaker 1: you not go a flag? It's three seconds after? How
Speaker 1: do you not see it? How do you not see it?
Speaker 1: You have one job to do. One job. Look at
Speaker 1: the play clock goes to zero, Look at the quarterback,
Speaker 1: balls on staff, You go the flag, and so really
Speaker 1: you get about forty and a half seconds. Um, you
Speaker 1: don't get forty three seconds. You don't get forty three
Speaker 1: and a half seconds. It was terrible. Did you have
Speaker 1: you watch the tape? Tape? No, I see I haven't either.
Speaker 1: But when when you watch that, you'll be able to
Speaker 1: see what he's looking at, what's look at, should be
Speaker 1: able to what you haven't seen. I haven't seen it. No,
Speaker 1: I haven't seen it yet. I will say there are
Speaker 1: multiple play clocks on that end of the field, but
Speaker 1: it's one on field. He should be fined, he should
Speaker 1: be doctor game. Um, sat down because that is like,
Speaker 1: that's not a judgment that they win the game, that
Speaker 1: they win the game if that doesn't happen. You don't
Speaker 1: know that, but I don't know because I think it
Speaker 1: was first and ten. Who knows, UM. But the bomb
Speaker 1: I I do know is they don't score a touchdown
Speaker 1: on that play. If they called it was six, it
Speaker 1: was third and six at their own three. All right,
Speaker 1: it was third and six, not first and ten. So
Speaker 1: I know this would have been third and eleven, and
Speaker 1: that's hard to uh so it could have. It would
Speaker 1: have been a different game. The second one was out
Speaker 1: of the UM early in the second half. Is the
Speaker 1: pass interference on c. J. Henderson was atrocious. First of all,
Speaker 1: the ball is over his head almost hitting the ground
Speaker 1: when C. J. Henderson makes contact and the guy throws
Speaker 1: the flag. Yeah, it's three yards in front of him.
Speaker 1: How do you make that call? That's the one going
Speaker 1: into halftime, that was in the two minute drive before
Speaker 1: half right there. That's fourteen points. That's fourteen points the
Speaker 1: Texas not deserved. And it was like the NFL should
Speaker 1: come out Paul Jus right now and basically say, because
Speaker 1: we took away that win from you, we give you
Speaker 1: the win. UM and at the same time, we guarantee
Speaker 1: you the first overall pick in the draft. Otherwise you
Speaker 1: don't want it. You keep the wind. Are you a
Speaker 1: big Jets fan? The night? By the way, Jets's got
Speaker 1: on the bandwagon. Let's go Jets. What is the what's
Speaker 1: the league gonna say about the um? What they can say?
Speaker 1: They gonna say they made a mistake. Well, they should
Speaker 1: spend the kid. They should find them the kid, find
Speaker 1: the official, Yeah, because that's not like you find you
Speaker 1: find guys that they use their head. If you find
Speaker 1: guys who take cheap shots that this is not a
Speaker 1: judgment call. I would not find the official for the
Speaker 1: bad um pass through the passive guys. They missed that,
Speaker 1: the missholding. This is mechanics. This is look at the clock,
Speaker 1: it goes to zero. Is the ball snap? If not
Speaker 1: throw the flag, that's mechanics. That's just like you know what,
Speaker 1: you can't walk in chew gum. Maybe you shouldn't do it.
Speaker 1: They'll you know, they'll knock them down a peg or
Speaker 1: too on the ladder. But I don't know if they'll
Speaker 1: find him though. Could you imagine if that was the
Speaker 1: that happened in the Steelers Ravens game last week. The
Speaker 1: fact that it happened in two teams that are one
Speaker 1: in six don't even cares. Yeah, you could see where
Speaker 1: it happens by half a second or a second, but
Speaker 1: not three three counted out. It was three seconds, Tony.
Speaker 1: I got a question. Can you walk in chew gum?
Speaker 1: I'm just asking, Yeah, yeah, absolutely, I can walk chew
Speaker 1: gum and hop on one foot at the same time.
Speaker 1: Don't hurt that. Don't hurt that hip though, either one
Speaker 1: right and touch and touch my nose. So that's that's
Speaker 1: as field sobriety test. You don't want to do that,
Speaker 1: that sir. How many drinks have you had? Don't ever drive?
Speaker 1: There's no ever, There's never a reason to drink and drive,
Speaker 1: by the way, not not with not with uber Uber.
Speaker 1: It's any player that gets caught drinking and driving as
Speaker 1: an idiot, um a person correct. Josh Lambeau injured that
Speaker 1: hip again on the on side kick. He missed an
Speaker 1: extra point earlier in the game. Then he hit a
Speaker 1: fifty nine yard field goal, tied the franchise long and
Speaker 1: now he's done. He's on I R again today, guys,
Speaker 1: So here we go. The fifty nine yard or was
Speaker 1: so low. I can't believe to get blocked. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think it was gonna get I don't think it was
Speaker 1: gonna go. But it was a little um drop kick.
Speaker 1: And how did he how do you hurt his hip
Speaker 1: on the drop kick? Was it when he was chasing
Speaker 1: the ball? It looked like when he was chasing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it wasn't his hip though, was his butt muscle? Isn't
Speaker 1: it or something? Yeah? I meaning they're kicking game. This
Speaker 1: year has been one of one story after another. It's amazing.
Speaker 1: So the official roster move is hip is what it says?
Speaker 1: He's on. I R just saying, Uh, they released Doug Middleton,
Speaker 1: the safety. Let's see the signed Garrick McGinn offensive lineman,
Speaker 1: and Aldrick Roses to the practice squad, so he'll be
Speaker 1: the kill No, Alric Rojas is ross is uh suspended
Speaker 1: for p d S or something? No? Yes, that was
Speaker 1: the fullback. He was no luck. I'm looking at a
Speaker 1: release stated November nine. At that said kicker Aldric Roses
Speaker 1: has signed the practice squad, so he got four games.
Speaker 1: He got four guess he spending four games, thank you,
Speaker 1: But he's on the practice squad. You can be on
Speaker 1: the practice those the other guy. But on my point
Speaker 1: is he can't kick for us. He suspended my point.
Speaker 1: So who's the kicker this week? That's the point. That's
Speaker 1: my point, JP, right, who's the kicker? Stand by whoever's
Speaker 1: on the squad last week? There's so many kickers around here.
Speaker 1: Know it was one week ago. Eld k Rosa's got
Speaker 1: suspended for four games. Can you please follow the team
Speaker 1: with us? We could go to a week ago today
Speaker 1: he was suspended for his arrest and so um yeah,
Speaker 1: he goes back to the simple question. I was trying
Speaker 1: to ask who's kicking? Who is king? And guess what?
Speaker 1: John Brown? John Brown is still on the practice squad
Speaker 1: as well. Hell kick? I think you know what they
Speaker 1: should do. I wouldn't bring any kicker up. Let's go guy. Nope,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't go for maybe you do that, that's not
Speaker 1: a bad idea. I would have what's this? Uh? I
Speaker 1: bet our punter of this kick kick everything he kicks? Fine,
Speaker 1: he'll kick off. Yeah right, Well let'm kick your extra
Speaker 1: points to Let's get some work. You're trying to get better,
Speaker 1: Let's just get some work him. It's all about experimenting
Speaker 1: this crazy stuff. Crazy stuff, evaluating, evaluating. Hey, hey, you
Speaker 1: know you laugh. But I watched the Carolina and we're
Speaker 1: gonna talking more about the league in a second. But
Speaker 1: I watched Carolina and Kansas City. They knew they had
Speaker 1: no shot to go in there and beat them any
Speaker 1: and just line it up there for two every time.
Speaker 1: Well no, they had two fake punts an on site kick,
Speaker 1: and they went for everything. And they were going for
Speaker 1: it every play or down, go for it, fourth and fourteen,
Speaker 1: go for it. They went for it. Let's come back.
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Speaker 1: you know, I just I just gotta figure out out
Speaker 1: a way and we just gotta keep going. But um,
Speaker 1: you know, we got eight games left, and um, you
Speaker 1: know there are some things obviously Mark that you know,
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Speaker 1: j P. Shadrick Pete, Frisco, Tony Boselli the day after
Speaker 1: the Jaguars loss to the Houston Texans seven consecutive losses.
Speaker 1: Now for the Jacksonville Jaguars, Jake Lewton made his NFL
Speaker 1: debut at quarterback and led a drive in the final
Speaker 1: three minutes of the game and the final seconds got
Speaker 1: into the end zone with the two point try fell short.
Speaker 1: The Jags fell by two. The defense changed around some
Speaker 1: rotations a little bit up front and at safety yesterday,
Speaker 1: but they had some issues containing Deshaun Watson. Stopped me.
Speaker 1: If you've heard that before, it happened again a few
Speaker 1: key times yesterday on deck. Of course, as we mentioned,
Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers six and two and well rested
Speaker 1: and playing at home at lambeau Field next week. That's
Speaker 1: the state of the Jars heading into week ten. Yes,
Speaker 1: Tony JP Pete. How about the fact that Deshaun Watson
Speaker 1: is this his fourth year he's in yes, correct, Ye,
Speaker 1: never has lost to the Jaguars as a starter six
Speaker 1: and off. Pretty amazing. That's terrible. Um, what did you
Speaker 1: think of him yesterday. I don't think their offense is
Speaker 1: very good. I don't like I don't know what they
Speaker 1: do there. They can't run the ball, and they keep
Speaker 1: on trying to run the ball like they are, like
Speaker 1: they're a classic run the ball in first down and
Speaker 1: they just get stuff. The next thing you know, it's
Speaker 1: second and nine, right, And then they asked him to
Speaker 1: go make him play? Yeah, and so, um, I don't
Speaker 1: think he's great in the pocket. But I think he's
Speaker 1: so athletic and he's so competitive. He does some really
Speaker 1: good things. But I don't think they're overly talented. But
Speaker 1: but but he's the second highest fade quarterback in the league.
Speaker 1: Does he play to that? Well? I don't know if
Speaker 1: he dies. If you ask me, is there um after
Speaker 1: let's say Patrick Holmes is number one? Would he be
Speaker 1: next that I picked? No? No, no, But does he play?
Speaker 1: I would take to that h I would take Russell
Speaker 1: Wilson first. I would take um Aaron Rodgers. Um, I
Speaker 1: would take did you take Lamar Jackson? No? Um? Before
Speaker 1: would you take? I might take Big Ben just for
Speaker 1: one year? For this year, he hasn't been thrown a
Speaker 1: ball down the field at all. It hasn't been, but neither.
Speaker 1: It's not like Desantos down the field. No, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I see I don't think with the with with Mahomes Rogers, Okay,
Speaker 1: would you take him over Josh Allen? Probably barely? That
Speaker 1: that's the point. There's not that, there's not Okay, would
Speaker 1: you take him over Matt Ryan. They're in the same
Speaker 1: They're in the same that's the same grouping. What about
Speaker 1: I mean, I think they're all in the same group.
Speaker 1: But that's that's the point. Now. In fearest to him,
Speaker 1: he said they don't have a run game. They don't
Speaker 1: run the ball of the line isn't good. It's not
Speaker 1: a good line. Would you take Joe Brow of these three?
Speaker 1: Who do you take? Burrow Herbert Watson? I take Burrow, Okay, Burrow,
Speaker 1: Herbert Watson. I'd probably go Burrow Herbert Watson. Hey, I
Speaker 1: just I don't. I don't know. There's something more I
Speaker 1: want from Watson. I don't know what it is, and
Speaker 1: I don't think he has a big arm either. You
Speaker 1: know what it's high for touchdown passes is in the season.
Speaker 1: Because I've said it before, it's amazing he's put up
Speaker 1: on this pedestal as a star, and I don't think
Speaker 1: we see star. That's the point is Okay, Matt Ryan
Speaker 1: had an m VP season at least at one point.
Speaker 1: He's put a huge numbers, right, I mean, I just
Speaker 1: but there are reasons that DeShawn Watson might be being
Speaker 1: held back too. Yeah. Yeah, I'm still a believer. Or
Speaker 1: how about this, I'm taking if I have an opportunity
Speaker 1: to take Deshaun Watson build my franchise around him, I'm doing. Yes, yes, agreed, Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's no would you take Kyler Murray? No, I take
Speaker 1: it to Shawn first. Kyler Murray still scares me. He
Speaker 1: looks so small back there. He's like he's like Doug
Speaker 1: Flutey size. So you would take DeShawn Watson over the
Speaker 1: m v P from a year ago Lamar Jackson based
Speaker 1: on how Lamar Jackson throwing this year? Yes, it's I
Speaker 1: don't think I would you take Lamar? Is he playing
Speaker 1: better than Lamar? Probably throwing the ball? Yes, Lamar is
Speaker 1: not throwing it. Well, I'll give you that terrible Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'd probably still tak And you know that's I'm a
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson fan. But he's like playing running back back
Speaker 1: there right now. Yeah, it's bad. I'm not good. I
Speaker 1: mean John John Harball came out and said, Lamar Jackson's
Speaker 1: kind of picking up he does, and now their line
Speaker 1: is playing bad. So it's a bad a combination. But again,
Speaker 1: going back to Watson, I don't think he was great yesterday.
Speaker 1: I thought he's pretty good. But I mean the play
Speaker 1: that the play on the sideline when the clock went out,
Speaker 1: that wasn't on him, that was the receiver made the play.
Speaker 1: Here's one for you. Would you take Trevor Lawrence or
Speaker 1: DeShawn Watson right now? I would take Lawrence to so
Speaker 1: in every team in the league, including the Texans. Okay,
Speaker 1: let me ask you. Okay, okay, here's why. If you
Speaker 1: had the first pick in the draft and the Texas
Speaker 1: offered you Deshaun Watson and a second round pick to
Speaker 1: go up, to go up from like five to one,
Speaker 1: would you do it? No? Of course not. No. How
Speaker 1: many how many teams in the NFL would not take
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence if they had the first oral pick? I
Speaker 1: think Daddy I asked this question and Kansas City wouldn't.
Speaker 1: Those are two, Baltimore wouldn't. Yeh Since Nattie wouldn't. The
Speaker 1: Chargers wouldn't. Charges wouldn't. Miami wouldn't. Well, I did I disagree?
Speaker 1: I think Miami duck just in case, just in case
Speaker 1: his hip goes bad again. Yeah, he's yeah, he's Buffalo.
Speaker 1: Wouldn't now maybe dumb they should? But now, pizza, Josh
Speaker 1: Allen lover now careful, Josh Allen's good? Okay, Pete alto
Speaker 1: ask you who you want Trevor Lawrences Josh Allen. Lawrence
Speaker 1: will be better than Trevord than Josh Allen. But they're okay,
Speaker 1: why not let's treat them? Yeah? Who wouldn't take Josh
Speaker 1: Allen on their team? Russell Wilson is better than than
Speaker 1: than uh than anybody too. But he's getting to be
Speaker 1: what is he now? Thirty? Yeah, but he's a young thirty.
Speaker 1: He is there seven years. Yeah, you're right, Mahomes and Alan, Okay,
Speaker 1: with the Packers, they proved that they would, the Packers
Speaker 1: would sure. Yeah, Russell Wilson's gonna be thirty two on
Speaker 1: the twenty nine. Yeah he's. Russell Wilson has six to
Speaker 1: eight years left of prime football, and my homes, how
Speaker 1: many years of prime football? Does Aaron Rodgers have left.
Speaker 1: He told me he's gonna play on his forty I'd
Speaker 1: say five years. He's thirty five now he's gonna be
Speaker 1: thirty four years, four years. So would they take him? Yeah,
Speaker 1: so yeah, there there's a lot of I mean, New
Speaker 1: Orleans would roll the red carpet out more. They trade
Speaker 1: Drew Brees right now. Yeah, it's sustainable success. That's what
Speaker 1: you look at it. It goes back are argument about
Speaker 1: the jab words in their history, they've had one quarterback.
Speaker 1: They gave him a sustainable success, that's it. Yeah. H
Speaker 1: that's interesting though. How many people I listened. I was
Speaker 1: listening to some radio show and some scow or somebody
Speaker 1: said that Trevor Lawrence is the is a the tenth
Speaker 1: or eleventh best quarterback in the world right now, not
Speaker 1: just including my college, like NFL and everything else. Well
Speaker 1: it's probably not. That's crazy. That's crazy. But he doesn't
Speaker 1: play and the kid comes in any role. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: but they're not they're not the same. They're not as good.
Speaker 1: That kid's not bad. No good, it's gonna he's gonna
Speaker 1: be a first round pick too. Yeah. Yes, when you
Speaker 1: when you get every five star in the country, you're
Speaker 1: gonna have first round draft picks. Pete saying that Trevor
Speaker 1: Lawrence is a system quarterback now is what he's saying. No,
Speaker 1: that's not what I'm saying. I just heard put on
Speaker 1: put on Twitter. He says he'd passed on Trevor Lawrence
Speaker 1: system back. You know, no, I would take him over
Speaker 1: all of them, to be honest with you and any
Speaker 1: I mean like, if he was in last year's draft,
Speaker 1: I would have taken him over Burrow and Herbert. So
Speaker 1: would you? So would you? Yeah? I would. Yeah, he's
Speaker 1: because he's athletic too. If he's on the JAB wars
Speaker 1: right now, Okay, here we go. What would the record?
Speaker 1: What would their record? It wouldn't be SERI, it wouldn't
Speaker 1: be far away from where we are right now. I
Speaker 1: don't yeah me be. The defense is still giving up
Speaker 1: thirty a game, guys, three or four wins? Yeah with
Speaker 1: that guy, you go get thirty year old? No, you
Speaker 1: they probably have at least two more wins I said
Speaker 1: three total. Yeah. Yeah, they could have won at Tennessee,
Speaker 1: could have won against who's the other one. There's other
Speaker 1: ones this time. Yeah, it could have been the Texas
Speaker 1: twice maybe JPU disagree with that. If shervit Large is
Speaker 1: on a team, they wouldn't have more than two about three,
Speaker 1: three and four would be the record or so yeah,
Speaker 1: they would have won the Tennessee game. They could have
Speaker 1: won yesterday. Sure, I'll give you that. What if what
Speaker 1: I got one for you? On their way to somebody
Speaker 1: predicted yell I said eleven. I thought Lawrence was a
Speaker 1: bombing your year earlier? Next year's next year's show. All right,
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Speaker 1: felt like we had a rocal game. Defensively, there's a
Speaker 1: couple of stops we could uh, you know, prevent it,
Speaker 1: but you know, overall for like, you know, we get
Speaker 1: rid of those us being ourself plays like the penalties
Speaker 1: past affairens geminal size. If we give her the ghost,
Speaker 1: it's like we're in the game. Uh so, um, you know,
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Speaker 1: number one at Sea Burns forty four, what position would
Speaker 1: you target with the second first round pick this year?
Speaker 1: Of course, the Jaguars have the l A Rams pick.
Speaker 1: Currently the Rams are five and three and they would
Speaker 1: pick twenty second. That's the wild card round level there.
Speaker 1: So I'm picking the best player on the board because
Speaker 1: you don't have enough really good players. I don't care
Speaker 1: what position he plays outside of running back, not taking
Speaker 1: running back because I think you get those late mid
Speaker 1: the late rounds or after the draft. Um, but the
Speaker 1: best available player, don't care what position, wherever he plays,
Speaker 1: I'm going to get him. I would, I would agree
Speaker 1: with you gotta get you gotta get the best guys.
Speaker 1: I prefer it to be a I prefer it to
Speaker 1: be a defensive lineman or a defensive player that can
Speaker 1: do something, um, or somebody who can make me better
Speaker 1: on the defensive. I think, like, listen, let's just say
Speaker 1: you go one in fifteen. Let's just say and you
Speaker 1: get Trevor Lawrence, You're gonna be immediately better on offense.
Speaker 1: That's just a fact. I'm sorry. I'm not trying to
Speaker 1: be a jerk, you know. So maybe you'll get a
Speaker 1: tight end with that pick or something like that, because
Speaker 1: that's the one maybe position on offense other than that. Maybe,
Speaker 1: you know, defense, you know obviously needs some help. But
Speaker 1: I really do think you just need more good players.
Speaker 1: You can never have to make good players. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: I just glanced at some of these mock drafts that
Speaker 1: guys are doing. One of them hasn't taken a tight end,
Speaker 1: the kid from Penn State. One of them taking an
Speaker 1: offensive lineman. Um, and one of them has taken a
Speaker 1: a defensive back the corner. Good paris Port who opped
Speaker 1: it out, by the way, he just opted out. I
Speaker 1: don't think I think they need This team needs a
Speaker 1: tight end, like you said, Tony, they need big time
Speaker 1: player on the interior of the defense. I'll say this,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be against an offensive lineman. I said, no,
Speaker 1: MISTI and I started thinking about it. Go protect your
Speaker 1: number one overall pick. But but what position is that
Speaker 1: offensive line? I know I'm signing cam back. I've already
Speaker 1: said I'm signing. Okay, so then you don't need to
Speaker 1: tackle that. Why not. We'll get a great big tackles
Speaker 1: moved the guard and it's physical and you start beating
Speaker 1: the hell out of people. We'll be the right tackle
Speaker 1: out of the big tent. Well, you drafted bart so
Speaker 1: he's gonna play. What do you mean it means he's
Speaker 1: gonna play. No, he's gonna prove it. Okay, So, yeah,
Speaker 1: did you draft that guy with the idea is gonna play?
Speaker 1: I didn't know. I didn't draft him. Yeah, picking these guys,
Speaker 1: by the way, did not. So in that scenario, you
Speaker 1: probably get rid of poor well. Um, Yeah, yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: you gotta look, here's the thing, and if you go
Speaker 1: draft a quarterback first, overall, second, overall, you have so
Speaker 1: much camp room. Why would you get rid of any
Speaker 1: of your offensive lignment? Yeah, outside of if you go
Speaker 1: draft the guy in the first round, then you can
Speaker 1: let him go after the draft. What about but what
Speaker 1: about the friends? They need they need a monster on
Speaker 1: the interior that defense. Let's go score fifty. It's well,
Speaker 1: then then in that scenario, you could add another receiver
Speaker 1: then offense. No, I only said I would take an
Speaker 1: offensive lineman, not because that's who I take. Take the
Speaker 1: best player. So if the best players the defensive guy,
Speaker 1: go get him. I just think you're a team that's
Speaker 1: not very talented or deep. You need talent to compete
Speaker 1: to just get a good football. Get the best guy.
Speaker 1: Don't go fun, don't go chasing positions. The best guys
Speaker 1: are running back. What if the best guys are running back,
Speaker 1: I'm not taking running back. It's the best guy I
Speaker 1: was talking about. He won't be if I was the GM,
Speaker 1: he wouldn't be the best guy on my board. And
Speaker 1: if he was the GM, he would be the best
Speaker 1: guy born and JP. If you're a GM, we don't
Speaker 1: care because you don't know what you're talking about. I mean, look,
Speaker 1: I'll say this. JP had one of the greatest polls
Speaker 1: ever in our mock draft history when he pulled T J.
Speaker 1: Watt to the Pittsburgh Steelers, and Jeff and I started laughing,
Speaker 1: saying what a terrible pick, and the kids, like one
Speaker 1: of the best pastorsers in football knew it. I stand correct.
Speaker 1: This is a good this is a good tight end
Speaker 1: class coming out. There's some guys in it, so go
Speaker 1: get one. If you have a tight end who can
Speaker 1: create problems in the middle of the field, it helps
Speaker 1: open up anything else. That's a given. So there are
Speaker 1: guys in there. Let's just say everything is the same
Speaker 1: next year. The offensive line back as is, because I
Speaker 1: think they playing Cam Cam Robinson is playing good football
Speaker 1: and they're playing I'm signing them. Okay, So you have
Speaker 1: the same as is everybody back. Robinson is the running back,
Speaker 1: all the receivers are back, and you get Lawrence and
Speaker 1: a big time playmaker a tight end. How good is
Speaker 1: the offense they have it? Do they have a take
Speaker 1: the top off? Did you pay? Yeah? So what something's
Speaker 1: missing though? That we're missing something Pits the tight ends
Speaker 1: in Florida. I'll take him. Huh, I'll take Pitts from Florida.
Speaker 1: That's good. Yeah, yeah. In Miami Breven Jordan's I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna take the best player. I don't care what position
Speaker 1: you need players. All right, let's they got a lot
Speaker 1: of money. Don't forget they have money. Are we doing?
Speaker 1: Are we doing social media? Yeah? But this is a
Speaker 1: great question to get it started. Where do we got
Speaker 1: to do a great topic here? You know? All right,
Speaker 1: we got plenty of time before the draft. Let's go
Speaker 1: on to our next question at Duval Jaguars and what
Speaker 1: else is there to focus on we're talking about the drafts.
Speaker 1: We can focus on Jake Luton. When Luten made that's
Speaker 1: through the effort in the tight window, I said to myself, Minch,
Speaker 1: you could never make the play. All in all, I
Speaker 1: think Luton's pocket, presence and anticipation is better than Minshu already.
Speaker 1: Can you explain how that's possible with only one start
Speaker 1: to his career that's at Duval Jaguars asking I don't
Speaker 1: believe this. I don't think it's accurate yet, I think
Speaker 1: it's truly to say this because he played in the
Speaker 1: Texans who couldn't rush the pastor there without three of
Speaker 1: their top linebackers. It's a bad team. They now have
Speaker 1: two wins, both against US. I mean, they're just bad.
Speaker 1: So I don't want to jump to conclusions that somehow
Speaker 1: lutens up like a thousand times better than Minshew and
Speaker 1: he's anticipating here's a big gun. He fires it in there.
Speaker 1: I keep to keep credit and he's gonna rocket. But
Speaker 1: I want to wait and see a little bit more.
Speaker 1: And if I see it this week and I see
Speaker 1: it next week against Pittsburgh, then I'll be like, we
Speaker 1: might have something. Might right, you did, but what you
Speaker 1: didn't see? Might you didn't see this? You didn't see
Speaker 1: the double hand? What is you know? Every since? Like
Speaker 1: of that out? You love that to Selly come on
Speaker 1: in the butter baby. So so basically when we Tart
Speaker 1: talking about two on the two hands on the football,
Speaker 1: I'm not the only one who said that. For you,
Speaker 1: I can tell why he reacts somebody or somebody probably
Speaker 1: it's probably Tony saying it. Remember if earlier, Yeah you
Speaker 1: heard that somewhere because he said it. I heard it
Speaker 1: in the press box. My sword is that I heard
Speaker 1: a guy talking about but you're right talking slow it
Speaker 1: down a little bit. One next question at Hodari eleven.
Speaker 1: I was hoping Taten Brian will be able to take
Speaker 1: his game to another another level. Unfortunately he's addressed. He
Speaker 1: has shown a quick get off, strength and agility at times.
Speaker 1: What is being said us to wise player is trending down.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's trending down. It's just yeah,
Speaker 1: he's the backup. Said it for two years. It's a backup.
Speaker 1: It's amazing what he doesn't know how to do, because
Speaker 1: there were times when you go, okay, he's up the
Speaker 1: field and he's gonna get rid of this guy and
Speaker 1: make him play, and the guy goes right by him.
Speaker 1: He doesn't He saw it in tape in Florida. He
Speaker 1: didn't make plays in Florida. Now, I remember us having
Speaker 1: the conversation when he drafted him. You know what powerful
Speaker 1: great explosion blacks football instincts. What are you doing right?
Speaker 1: There are no football instincts, he said. He spent a
Speaker 1: lot of time on the bench, right he's bench. Yes,
Speaker 1: he was benched. I mean, and that's another one. This
Speaker 1: is the history of our franchise. We said we'd find
Speaker 1: ways to pick guys and then guys we need, like
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson go to the next pick after we could
Speaker 1: have had him. Yeah. Yeah, there's nothing worse than the
Speaker 1: Leonard four Netmel suns back when we took you know,
Speaker 1: when we didn't need Byron because of and then I
Speaker 1: mean it made us pass on Roethlisborth the next year. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Just while we're on the right, while we're on the
Speaker 1: defensive line topic with Brian and the snap counts yesterday,
Speaker 1: we have those and you know, you look at the
Speaker 1: totals here Taban Brian had twenty three snaps, that's thirty
Speaker 1: six yesterday. Doug Coston got pcent. That wasn't by the way,
Speaker 1: he was better. He had so told me he had
Speaker 1: four pressures in the game. Yeah, and that's compared to
Speaker 1: in seven games of Taban starting two pressures. That right,
Speaker 1: Get that right. I thought he was pretty good at
Speaker 1: somewhere in that ballpark. Yeah, that kid, he's got some ability.
Speaker 1: That's not He's not bad. Who didn't play much? Jason
Speaker 1: didn't play much. Here's the guy who's been starting, rode
Speaker 1: the bench a lot limited snaps. See, somehow they got
Speaker 1: to figure out out and get him play. I saw
Speaker 1: and listen, I'm not the biggest PF guy, so but
Speaker 1: it's never good when you ranked a hundred out of
Speaker 1: a hundred nine edge rushers. By the way, the number
Speaker 1: one ranked linebacker in the league right now is Miles Jack.
Speaker 1: He's probably he's probably the best linebacker in the NFL
Speaker 1: when he's healthy. Yeah, right now, he's playing great football.
Speaker 1: Let's go under our next question. Isn't that crazy? Last
Speaker 1: year he was so bad at the linebacker was bad.
Speaker 1: You look at him. He looks leaner now and money
Speaker 1: does he's running around. I wonder how much of it is,
Speaker 1: you know, the changing positions. Yes, I'm sure how much
Speaker 1: was it? He after the season he looked in the
Speaker 1: mirror and said, this is like, I gotta get my
Speaker 1: act together. I'm gonna get run out of this damn place.
Speaker 1: Right he looks like a different dude. But had they
Speaker 1: already gotten the contract extension before the end of the season. Now,
Speaker 1: you guys last year before the season, right, but they
Speaker 1: weren't running them out of there, you know. But I
Speaker 1: think he's a pretty proud guy. Like, hey, I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm not I'm not earning my money. I
Speaker 1: think he came into the league as a really good
Speaker 1: kid and a guy dedicated to the craft, and somehow
Speaker 1: he got caught up in all the crap that whatever
Speaker 1: it was, the crap in the locker room, everybody bitching
Speaker 1: and moaning and everything else, and he realized. I think
Speaker 1: he's smart enough, and I knew him before the draft,
Speaker 1: he's smart enough to realize that, Wait a second, this
Speaker 1: isn't how it works in this league. I got a
Speaker 1: dedicated even more and I'm gonna be a star player,
Speaker 1: and he's playing. He's a star. He's just started. Miles Jack.
Speaker 1: I always have and I always thought he'd be a
Speaker 1: really good player. This is what I thought he would be.
Speaker 1: Next question is about the quarterback position in the draft,
Speaker 1: and who do you see the Jags pulling the trigger
Speaker 1: on if by some fluke we win a game or
Speaker 1: two and we missed out on drafting Lawrence and fields.
Speaker 1: Do you see Lance Trask or even mac Jones being
Speaker 1: worth top ten status? No, no, no, no, no. The
Speaker 1: kid from YU, he's the third a kid. What if
Speaker 1: you're what if he's gone to Don't worry You're gonna
Speaker 1: be Don't worry you don't need to worry about I
Speaker 1: promise you you don't need to you. What are the
Speaker 1: standings right now? We'll get in those next segments. Don't
Speaker 1: jump the gun. We got one more segment before we
Speaker 1: get to the draft standings and they're not so powerful rankings.
Speaker 1: That's coming up. Let's finish our sixth and final social
Speaker 1: question here. Um, this is from at C G A
Speaker 1: r MTB. A lot of letters, Luton Lunacy one draft
Speaker 1: defense with every pick. It's my birthday? Can I get
Speaker 1: a happy birthday from Big Bow? Hashtag go Jags? Hashtag
Speaker 1: Pete is the best? Happy birthday. That's a great it's
Speaker 1: a great tweet. Ye, Happy birthday, c G RTE. The
Speaker 1: rest of the letters I can't read. It's too small.
Speaker 1: Number one whatever your name is, Happy birthday. Um No,
Speaker 1: there's no Luton Lunacy or Lunacy Luton whatever you said.
Speaker 1: And no, we're not gonna draft all defense. UM my
Speaker 1: guess is they win zero to one more game and
Speaker 1: they're picking first or second overall and they're taking Trevor
Speaker 1: Lawrence or Justin Fields. Is my guess? That could be wrong?
Speaker 1: No Luton Lunacy, Uh, draft the best player available if
Speaker 1: it's not a quarterback, uh as far as uh you know,
Speaker 1: tanking tank all you can and you are the best
Speaker 1: because he said I'm the best, So that guy knows
Speaker 1: what he's talking about. That's a smart that's a smart
Speaker 1: Twitter account right there. That's good. That's really good Twitter account.
Speaker 1: That's good. That's really good. Because he didn't say you
Speaker 1: were good. He probably didn't want to get yelled at,
Speaker 1: righted everybody, it's not the Colors would call and not
Speaker 1: get a word in edgewise because Tony at they go no,
Speaker 1: they you know how they used to call JP. They'd go,
Speaker 1: Billy from the west side. Please, I'm going to ask
Speaker 1: you a question and don't yell at you would do it?
Speaker 1: All right, let's come back. Social questions are done. We've
Speaker 1: got them all done for the day. Let's come back.
Speaker 1: Power rankings in the a f C South, which Tony
Speaker 1: will shock your key, news coming pay attention, breaking news coming,
Speaker 1: and the not so powerful draft orders as of right now.
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Speaker 1: Jaguar's Happy Hour. J P. Shadrick, Pete Frisco, Tony Vaselli
Speaker 1: after loss to the Texas on the air, Yeah, what
Speaker 1: your eyes are? Your sleep? Total advice. No, I'm not
Speaker 1: saying I'm tired. I flew to UH after the game yesterday,
Speaker 1: Joe will know that you can confirm this truth, um
Speaker 1: that I ran out of the press box and went
Speaker 1: to the airport directly and flew to Colorado. I did
Speaker 1: not get in to my dad's house until about one
Speaker 1: fifteen in the morning, could not fall see until two,
Speaker 1: and I had to wake up at five thirty to
Speaker 1: do the show with Damn and Jeff this morning. So
Speaker 1: I got three and a half hour to sleep. So
Speaker 1: I'm a little tired right now. Yes, yeah, But after
Speaker 1: you did the fifteen minutes with Jeff been Dan, you
Speaker 1: went back to sleep. I did not. I had worked, Pete.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm what they call it, grinder, grind mode, grind mode,
Speaker 1: grind baby. But yes, I am tired. I've been yawning.
Speaker 1: I have not been sleeping though. Alright, let's get let's
Speaker 1: get to our look at the a s C. South yesterday.
Speaker 1: Of course, the Texans over the Jaguars, the Ravens beat
Speaker 1: the Colts, the Titans over the Bears seventeen to the
Speaker 1: Titans in first place have control of the division. What
Speaker 1: happened to the Colts yesterday, Pete, Well, they didn't move
Speaker 1: the ball much on offense, and then they had they
Speaker 1: were up seven nothing that had a chance to look
Speaker 1: like you're going to go get another one. Turn over
Speaker 1: bumbled Don the Dollars bumbled, and they returned it for
Speaker 1: a touchdown. They played really well on defense in the
Speaker 1: first half and kind of let some things get away
Speaker 1: from the second half, and there weren't good enough on offense.
Speaker 1: At the bottom line, they don't have a lot of weapons.
Speaker 1: So he hy Hilton wasn't there. They just don't have
Speaker 1: a lot of weapons. Because Celly's fall asleep right now?
Speaker 1: I see what, JP? Did you see that he was asleep?
Speaker 1: He'll do it again soon. I'll check. I was not asleep.
Speaker 1: I'm listening to you. I'm listening to you like talk monotone,
Speaker 1: like Charlie Brown's teacher. You were asleeping. It's not yes
Speaker 1: you are, because I was. How could I be asleep
Speaker 1: if I'm wide awake? JP, Okay, I like this. Yes,
Speaker 1: you were talking. As you were talking, I closed my
Speaker 1: eyes and I was giving you the sign. I don't
Speaker 1: care what you're saying right about you're dribble. You can talk.
Speaker 1: You fall asleep. I did not fall, yo. Man, you
Speaker 1: were in you were arresting your eyes. That's what you're doing.
Speaker 1: You're arresting your eyes. They're burning right now. Alright, alright,
Speaker 1: So what about the what about the Titans yesterday went
Speaker 1: over the Bears. Well, the Bears are the Bears were
Speaker 1: two or fifteen or something third down, that's one of
Speaker 1: the worlds against that defense. That tells you how bad
Speaker 1: the Bears offense is. Nick folds through through for three
Speaker 1: and two and did nothing all day. Think about that.
Speaker 1: He was garbage chime extraordinary on Sunday and the Titans
Speaker 1: defense stinks. I was just saying, the Bears have one
Speaker 1: of the worst defenses, I mean, worst offenses in history
Speaker 1: the NFL. They're terrible history. And that's that's too bad
Speaker 1: because that often because that defense is good. They had
Speaker 1: a good defense. That's one move that you gotta give
Speaker 1: the Jaguars a lot of credit for. And dumping out
Speaker 1: of that guy after giving him forty million dollars, that's
Speaker 1: one move you've been criticize before. I mean, he stinks.
Speaker 1: And you hear that he wasn't exactly the most warm
Speaker 1: and fuzzy guy around the building either. Oh if he
Speaker 1: told you that, Oh yeah, let's hear this. I just
Speaker 1: did you People around the Bill. People in the press
Speaker 1: box said that came from your mouth. People are you
Speaker 1: talking about let me you never heard that, Tony and all. Honestly,
Speaker 1: I have not, But I'm not saying it's not true.
Speaker 1: I haven't heard it. I was not in the press
Speaker 1: box when you when you said he and we got
Speaker 1: some breaking news though. Um, the Power Rankings time is
Speaker 1: here and Tony Boselli is going to blow our minds.
Speaker 1: Apparently with this breaking news things. I noticed that due
Speaker 1: to the fact um, it was said last week that
Speaker 1: whoever won the game between the Jaguars and the Texas
Speaker 1: would hold the precious third spot in the Power Rankings.
Speaker 1: But due to a recount and due to a investigation
Speaker 1: into very suspicious calls, um that we're ridiculous and blatant,
Speaker 1: fundamentally wrong. Um, the people have spoken and the Power
Speaker 1: Rankings are as such, Titans Colts, which we decided this
Speaker 1: week for first place. On Thursday night, I will be there.
Speaker 1: I hope there's no shenanigans like there were the Texans
Speaker 1: and Jaguars game. Um, but here's the breaking news. The
Speaker 1: Jags Jaguars will be in the third place in the
Speaker 1: Power Rankings, with the Texans in number four, Thank you
Speaker 1: are there? Lawyers involved, Um, lawyers were involved, But we
Speaker 1: came to a quick resolution based in the obvious fact that, um,
Speaker 1: you can't count to three after the white cock and
Speaker 1: still snapped the ball in throat and when the balls
Speaker 1: in the ground and the guy's falling down, it's not
Speaker 1: passing inference no matter what. So so basically you have
Speaker 1: the Texans that happened that the Jaguars out of the
Speaker 1: Texans even though they lost to them, even though they
Speaker 1: lost to him flights. Yes, okay, my power ranks the
Speaker 1: ones that really matter at least until Thursday. I got
Speaker 1: the Titans in one, the Cold to two, the Texans
Speaker 1: at three, and the Jaguars way down at four. And
Speaker 1: you know what, stay there, stay there, way down. That's
Speaker 1: a good that's a really good place to be. Wow,
Speaker 1: the power rankings are in their lawyers involved. On Tony's side,
Speaker 1: they've they've found votes somewhere else for this. So it's
Speaker 1: a whole thing on Tony's side. Pete has it straightforward
Speaker 1: and down the list here as the division. What is
Speaker 1: the worst record in the history of this organization? Organization?
Speaker 1: Is it two and fourteen? Have we ever been one
Speaker 1: in fifteen we had two wins in I remember that
Speaker 1: I was here. This will be the worst team ever. Yes,
Speaker 1: even the team won. What what was that? We won
Speaker 1: four games? At one point we were three and five.
Speaker 1: We were good. We won four games. One of the
Speaker 1: worst teams that didn't have a bad record was the
Speaker 1: one that Tom coached the last year. That team was
Speaker 1: terrible and he somehow squeezed a bunch of wins out
Speaker 1: of it. What was that two thousand? No, that team
Speaker 1: was terrible and he won games all right? Now the
Speaker 1: not so powerful rankings for draft word. Currently the Jets
Speaker 1: would pick first there oh and eight. They host the
Speaker 1: Patriots tonight, the Giants they will stop there. Um, you've
Speaker 1: heard it here. First, get the lock sound effects ready,
Speaker 1: A lock will be announced tonight, and that is your
Speaker 1: Jets will beat the Patriots. And we haven't got to
Speaker 1: the Monday night promo that that's a that's a early lock,
Speaker 1: early lock. You know what. That's wishful thinking on your part. Um.
Speaker 1: But we'll get to the when we talk about the game,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you my pick locking locking, the current eleven
Speaker 1: wins about the never locked never and when JP goes
Speaker 1: to the reading after he does his a little reading.
Speaker 1: I hope he has brings emotion today because this is
Speaker 1: an important game, might be one of those important games
Speaker 1: of the year. Were Jaguar fans. Um, I hope there's
Speaker 1: a motion and um, I will be saying I might
Speaker 1: go double locking. Wow, who that's three? But okay, that's cool. Um.
Speaker 1: The current draft holder is Jets, Jaguars, Cowboys, Giants, Washington Chargers,
Speaker 1: and then Houston. They'll have to give it up to
Speaker 1: Miami though, so that's currently as we sit now. Giants
Speaker 1: beat Washington, the Jags have the Texans, and of course
Speaker 1: the Jets host the Patriot. There you go, Okay, but
Speaker 1: I gotta figure this out. What if the Jets win,
Speaker 1: I think they I still think they have the first
Speaker 1: because they have the easier strength of schedule at the
Speaker 1: end of the year, so you know, and we got
Speaker 1: look at the months we got coming up. Uh yeah, hey,
Speaker 1: let's come back in a moment. We'll get something good.
Speaker 1: You think about this. We need let me tell you,
Speaker 1: Green Bay, hold on what we need thinking about we
Speaker 1: need We need the Dolphins in the Bills to win
Speaker 1: out except for against each other, have great records because
Speaker 1: in the just get the Jets one win if they
Speaker 1: have two great teams with great records boom, and then
Speaker 1: we need the Titans and the Colts to, like flounder,
Speaker 1: both be eight and eight and we got it. Or
Speaker 1: you need you need to lose, to lose, to lose
Speaker 1: to the Jets. That might be easier done obligated four meals.
Speaker 1: Or maybe the Dolphins loose to the Jets. Let's back,
Speaker 1: we need a break. H somebody needs a nat two
Speaker 1: sounds like um, We'll go around the league and Monday
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Speaker 1: In the first hour inaccurate your eyes are hollow anyway, Tony,
Speaker 1: but they're even more hollow when you're tired. It was
Speaker 1: like Adam looking around everywhere. All right, let's go around
Speaker 1: the National Football League. Yesterday the Falcons over the Broncos
Speaker 1: thirty four seven. I did not catch any of this game, Pete,
Speaker 1: look it. Falcons almost did their darkness to blowing up,
Speaker 1: but they didn't. Raheem Morris is three and one and
Speaker 1: could easily be four. No, should have never lost the
Speaker 1: game at Detroit. Should they consider him for the head
Speaker 1: coaching job, Tony? He will get considered because my guess
Speaker 1: is they're better than their record ever was. Um, they're
Speaker 1: playing hard, they're finishing games. It shouldn't be Detroit. You're right. Uh,
Speaker 1: they're three and six now, they're not having it yet.
Speaker 1: They have seven games left. I think they go four.
Speaker 1: They go four and three because they gotta play. I
Speaker 1: believe that the uh Bucks twice in the Saints twice,
Speaker 1: so I think they go four and three to finish
Speaker 1: the season. They end up seven and nine. I think
Speaker 1: he gets the job. Wow. Wow. Indeed, Bills over the
Speaker 1: Seahawks thirty or thirty four. Josh Allen Big Game thirty
Speaker 1: one thirty eight four fifteen, three touchdowns in the year.
Speaker 1: Another on the ground, how about that? Your guy, Peter's
Speaker 1: Seattle is terrible on defense, terrible. They get Jamal Adams back,
Speaker 1: they trade for Carlos Dunlap and they still can't stop him.
Speaker 1: And I give the Bills a lot of credit because
Speaker 1: the entire time they just pushed the pedal and threw it,
Speaker 1: threw it through it. They think about that. They sacked
Speaker 1: him six times and he's still through for all seven times,
Speaker 1: seven times. I mean, my gosh, they they're bad. The
Speaker 1: Seattle can't win the Super Bowl with that defense. They can't.
Speaker 1: I don't care what so Welpen does. And by the
Speaker 1: way the m v P was is, it might not
Speaker 1: be anymore. That's in the two of the last three games,
Speaker 1: he's turned the ball over seven times. Who is it now? Then?
Speaker 1: Maybe Mahomes? What do you five? What? And two? I
Speaker 1: mean one and one? I think he is. He threw
Speaker 1: four yesterday four touchdowns. So Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs
Speaker 1: over the Panthers thirty three average average? Who's average? You
Speaker 1: know what's funny about the Chiefs. We don't even think
Speaker 1: they've hits dried yet. Do you no, No, Are they
Speaker 1: gonna beat the Steelers when it counts? You think yes?
Speaker 1: I don't know. The Vikings over the Lions thirty for
Speaker 1: Cousins had three passes. Dalvin Cook is the best back
Speaker 1: in the NFL right now. There's no doubt about that.
Speaker 1: H two o six behind that off the line. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's awesome. And by the way, I will say when
Speaker 1: um when he here, he came out and I said
Speaker 1: either him or McCaffrey were the best backs and in
Speaker 1: the draft, and I was right, Yep, you know why
Speaker 1: their air backs. It makes people miss space unlike unlike
Speaker 1: somebody else we know that was drafted in that same draft.
Speaker 1: Moving along, the Giants over Washington twenty three twenty That
Speaker 1: helps the draft order. Boy, a lot of cheers went
Speaker 1: out in the t I a bankfield. Yeah you wanted
Speaker 1: to keep winning there, Hey, forget about draft order. The
Speaker 1: Giants equals this week in their first place. They're right
Speaker 1: in the midst of the playoffs. Isn't that crazy? It's incredible.
Speaker 1: It's a terrible dimension, it really is. Raiders over the
Speaker 1: Chargers thirty one, twenty six. How this happened? The Charger
Speaker 1: The Chargers find ways the it's amazing, is Anthony Lynn
Speaker 1: Donne I think at the end of the year. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's gotta go. I mean you you can't lose those
Speaker 1: kind of games every single week. And did not have
Speaker 1: something to do with the coaches they have asked it.
Speaker 1: That's a reflection of you. Did you think he caught
Speaker 1: that ball? Did you see it initially? But then the
Speaker 1: last replay, ye hand came out, Come on, catch the ball.
Speaker 1: Kid's gotta catch the ball two of versus Kyler one.
Speaker 1: Dolphins are now five and three with a win over
Speaker 1: the Cardinals. So I'm interested here, Pete because I didn't
Speaker 1: see one snap. Obviously, the numbers of two a week
Speaker 1: in his first opening weekend, we're just awful. Looks like
Speaker 1: he played better this week. Bet he did play better,
Speaker 1: and he was much more confident in the pocket. He
Speaker 1: made some really good throws. He made a great run
Speaker 1: on third down where he picked up a first down.
Speaker 1: Uh we even in an animated guy, miss, I was impressed.
Speaker 1: I still want to see more, but it was a
Speaker 1: good second game for him. That's you know, you talked
Speaker 1: about progress in the same game he made progress. So
Speaker 1: hes he moves his head. I mean he goes from
Speaker 1: side to side. Who do you like better, Murray or
Speaker 1: to Murray. But I'm an agreement with you because he's tiny,
Speaker 1: because his running is such a dimension and it helps
Speaker 1: create openings in the passing game, not not unlike lamar Jack.
Speaker 1: But eventually that stopped. Don't get faster to get older,
Speaker 1: you gotta start moving and moving every year. You gotta
Speaker 1: move better and better. But he is. He has a
Speaker 1: big arm too, yeah he does, but he just is
Speaker 1: kind of he's tiny. Steelers over the Cowboys nineteen Cowboys
Speaker 1: at a ten point lead to the start of the
Speaker 1: fourth the Steelers winning there sleepwalking third games on the road.
Speaker 1: It's third game of three on a row. That's tough,
Speaker 1: and they almost they almost got Caughts sleeping Tomlan does
Speaker 1: that every year with one. There's always one game in
Speaker 1: wait till they come to the c i A Bank field.
Speaker 1: It could be on that that might be when they
Speaker 1: sleep walk the entire game. Well, you know what history says,
Speaker 1: so right did jag wars? History gets the Steelers been
Speaker 1: pretty pretty darn good. Gonna lock that one too here
Speaker 1: two weeks out. Nope, nope, nope, that's a no no lock.
Speaker 1: So hold the locks. Uh, Saints thirty eight Buccaneers three.
Speaker 1: He's not locking. This an awful game, What an awful
Speaker 1: game this was. I was so disappointed. I was on
Speaker 1: the plane on Delta getting ready to dial sit there,
Speaker 1: you know, from the sky lounge to the airplane. Just
Speaker 1: have something to do. Uh, And it's twenty eight nothing
Speaker 1: before you can even blink. It was terrible. The Bucketeers
Speaker 1: are awful. They're overrated. I said they were the best
Speaker 1: team in the NFC. They might be. They might be
Speaker 1: on my power rankings in the NFC. Now I thought
Speaker 1: the plan was bad. I thought they boxed, blew it.
Speaker 1: You see many times they ran the ball settle down
Speaker 1: on the final play by Blaine Gambert, they ran the
Speaker 1: ball four times four. Yeah, that's it. The second in
Speaker 1: on defense. Why weren't they blitzing? That's who they are there,
Speaker 1: blitz them. They didn't blitz Terrible, They haven't our look
Speaker 1: around the National Football League in week number nine, one
Speaker 1: more game to go and it's Monday night football. Those
Speaker 1: who live in glass houses should not throw stones. But
Speaker 1: it's a battle of two subpar football teams in the
Speaker 1: a f C East cam Newton and the two and
Speaker 1: five New England Patriots visit the windless New York Jets.
Speaker 1: No Sam Donald entered Joe Flacco. Who you got tonight
Speaker 1: at MetLife Stadium? J E t s Jets, Jets, Jets.
Speaker 1: You know, I locked it. I'm locked it again. Dr
Speaker 1: simple Wock. It's a double lock Jet. You know what.
Speaker 1: I tend to think that you might be right for Ellie.
Speaker 1: I don't know if they're gonna win the game, but
Speaker 1: they're gonna come with the ten. But to put that
Speaker 1: out there, uh, don't keep it close. I think they
Speaker 1: might win the game and you don't work. Douvall will
Speaker 1: party like it's ninety da is going to have fireworks
Speaker 1: on on the river, the Super Bowl fireworks that they
Speaker 1: had that one year. When they came, it was like
Speaker 1: the biggest fireworks display you've ever seen. At twelve o'clock,
Speaker 1: you're like, oh, Jeff, beat the Patriots. There's gonna be
Speaker 1: a firework Who's way in downtown Jacksonville. Get downtown watch
Speaker 1: the fireworks because you're celebrating picking first overall cascading waterfall
Speaker 1: of fireworks off the Acosta. It's coming. Get ready. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's week nine and we're talking about fireworks. Let's
Speaker 1: happened to us, Gremmer larns happen. So now you have it.
Speaker 1: That's our program. We actually have a little time to
Speaker 1: spare tonight, boys, we can just talk amongst us. You
Speaker 1: know it's gonna be, Tony, It's gonna be like when
Speaker 1: you guys flew back from Denver that one years been
Speaker 1: the stadium firework. Just celebrate Pete. So we have eight
Speaker 1: games left. Tell me the best chance they have to
Speaker 1: winning football games? Yeah? Who they don't? You take one team?
Speaker 1: Not the Vikings, No on the road, no one with
Speaker 1: a losing record, Titans at home, No, um Browns. No.
Speaker 1: I think it's the Coles at the end. If the
Speaker 1: Colts are playing for something, they won't win, I said,
Speaker 1: that's the cold team. Scares me, like they laid down.
Speaker 1: They do some stupid I mean, I don't know. I
Speaker 1: don't think they're winning again. Tony. You had eleven, I
Speaker 1: had one. You did not have I had four. You
Speaker 1: had five, five I had I had two. Two plus
Speaker 1: nine is eleven. Okay, we'll take away the eleven. We'll
Speaker 1: say you were being cheerleader and all that, but your
Speaker 1: reality was more like game all right, guys, Tony, I
Speaker 1: have a safe trip. We'll talk off we'll talk off
Speaker 1: the Pete Frisco. We'll talk to you. I heard, I heard,
Speaker 1: I heard the press box. It was not that Thanks
Speaker 1: for listening. Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network