1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. 3 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 2: Welcome everybody, Thursday edition of Clay and Bark. 4 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 3: Much to discuss. 5 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 2: Obviously, the debate happened last night and it was a 6 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 2: good spectacle, I will say Clay and I watched it 7 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 2: here together with our wives in South Florida. We decided 8 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:24,120 Speaker 2: to go for flip flops and pj's. We were got 9 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:26,439 Speaker 2: at the act, which was the right call. After a 10 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 2: big day yesterday, big day at mar A Lago yesterday 11 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 2: with number forty five former President Trump. We had such 12 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 2: a such a good time with President and look, I 13 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:39,480 Speaker 2: really we enjoyed. 14 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 3: Talking to him. 15 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 2: One of our favorite moments was after we've been there 16 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:47,599 Speaker 2: and he's some of you. I'm sure I've met him 17 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 2: at different, you know, events, and he obviously spends a 18 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 2: lot of time going around shaking hands, talking to people 19 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 2: out on the campaign trail. But we we thought we'd 20 00:00:57,280 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 2: had a great day at mar A Lago and then 21 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 2: we're told wait a second, hold on, hold on you guys, 22 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:04,320 Speaker 2: before you go, the president has ordered you and your 23 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 2: wives milkshakes. Yes, and we just we sat there for 24 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 2: a second, said well, when the former president orders you 25 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 2: a milkshake at his pub, like you wait for the milkshake, 26 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 2: So I will say though my only disappointment he went 27 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 2: to Vanilla. 28 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 3: I would have gone chocolate vanilla milkshakes now here. 29 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 2: My wife said, you guys should have mentioned this is 30 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 2: the only thing that we didn't, just kind of set 31 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 2: the scene for the interview stamina. Obviously, Buck is a 32 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 2: big discussion. Assuming it's going to be Trump v. 33 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 3: Biden. 34 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 2: Really, anybody be Biden if he's going to be the nominee. 35 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 2: Trump literally walked in from playing eighteen holes of golf 36 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 2: zero prep. There was a there was nobody there like, sir, 37 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 2: here's your notes. You have to know this, like nothing 38 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 2: about like what questions are going to be asked? 39 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 3: Anything. 40 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 2: Sits down when we've already started. The third hour of 41 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 2: the show goes the entire hour obviously with us. And 42 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 2: and this is not that people see this, obviously he's 43 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 2: not on video, but during every commercial break, interacting with 44 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 2: our wives, interacting with the staff that's putting on the show. 45 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 2: I think this is really important because we mentioned it, 46 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 2: but Biden legitimately could not have done by Biden couldn't 47 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 2: go play golf and sit down and talk to us 48 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 2: for an hour. 49 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 3: Buck. 50 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:21,080 Speaker 2: If he was going to sit down and talk to 51 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 2: us for an hour, he would show up with twenty advisors. 52 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 3: They would tell us what we. 53 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:28,079 Speaker 2: Could and could not ask, and he wouldn't be able 54 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:30,359 Speaker 2: to do more than like ten minutes. Trump Trump came 55 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 2: rolling in the right off the golf cart and sat 56 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:37,959 Speaker 2: down and was just being he was in Trump mode. 57 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 2: And I think he's one thing that I'll say about this. Look, 58 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 2: there's just just at the scene for today everybody. There 59 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:45,519 Speaker 2: was a lot of really interesting exchanges. Whether you watch 60 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 2: the debate or not, I'll just tell you as pure 61 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 2: political spectacle, it was interesting. It was the best debate 62 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 2: of the debate so fared out. Donald Trump is you know, 63 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 2: he did his high laya event. I don't think you're 64 00:02:58,120 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 2: going to see much change in the numbers from the 65 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 2: So it's not about that. Maybe some movement among the 66 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 2: second tier, but there's really two tiers. There's Trump in 67 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 2: one tier and there's everybody else in the other tier. 68 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:11,239 Speaker 2: But it was interesting. We made a little bit of 69 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 2: a prediction, which was that Nicky Haley and Viveke Ramaswami, 70 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 2: we're gonna, yeah, We're gonna go after each other, and 71 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 2: that was well, we'll remind if some of you saw it, 72 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:23,519 Speaker 2: I'm sure a lot of you didn't, we'll we'll tell 73 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 2: you all about it. We'll play some of those sound 74 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 2: bites for you, because it got personal last that on 75 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 2: that stage, those two were and we actually watched as 76 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 2: well to see after the debate when they went around 77 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 2: to shake hands, Chris Christy got a handshake from Vivike. 78 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 3: I did not see a Nicky Hale. 79 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 2: Clearly and Nicky Haley do not like each other. Yes, 80 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 2: I think that is real. I don't think that's just 81 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 2: the manufactured. There is a genuine disdain there. And if 82 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 2: you watched in the post, I always like to see. Remember, 83 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 2: we had Carol Markowitz on after I think the debate 84 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 2: out in California and just said, hey, what's the vide 85 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 2: during the commercial breaks, who's talking, who's shaking hands? How 86 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 2: much interaction movement are we at actually seeing? And right 87 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 2: when the debate ended, Vivek shook everybody else's hand on 88 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 2: the stage, gave the blowblock blowby to Nicki Haley. She 89 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 2: made no effort to interact with him at all, and 90 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 2: they kept the camera running on NBC, and I think 91 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 2: we need to discuss what might be going on there 92 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:22,919 Speaker 2: because I think that is super interesting in terms of 93 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 2: the dynamics going forward, and I just to continue with 94 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 2: that thought. There's also but there's some We're gonna get 95 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 2: to some more news, breaking news out of Israel for 96 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:35,160 Speaker 2: you here in just a little bit. They've agreed to 97 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 2: a four hour pause in fighting them seeing to let 98 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 2: hamas hostages out. Biden says no long term Gaza cease 99 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 2: fire though, So we'll dive into that a little bit more. 100 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 2: But that's just some breaking news that I'm just seeing 101 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 2: here as we start the show, So we will get 102 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 2: back to that. I wanted to say though, because we 103 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 2: were with Trump last night. I'm sorry yesterday during the 104 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 2: day and then last night he was in Hialia for 105 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 2: a guy who was facing and we said this to him. 106 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 2: We said this to mup camera for a guy who 107 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:05,719 Speaker 2: is facing what he is facing, the civil trial in 108 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:10,480 Speaker 2: New York, the four criminal trials outstanding the idea that 109 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 2: they would like to if they could certainly destroy his reputation, 110 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:17,840 Speaker 2: convict him as a felon, and who knows, maybe they 111 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 2: even do believe somehow they could get him in a 112 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 2: prison cell. 113 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 3: And uh, he's ready for the fight. Man. 114 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:27,280 Speaker 2: His attitude, his attitude is incredible for somebody who faces 115 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 2: what he faces right now. He seemed very relaxed. Yeah, 116 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 2: And I think in many ways he's compartmentalized what they're doing. 117 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 2: And I think the reality is that he's benefiting from it, 118 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 2: and I think he recognizes that he's benefiting it from 119 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:47,039 Speaker 2: it publicly in terms of the political standing, he is 120 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:50,040 Speaker 2: right now the favorite to me buck coming out of 121 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 2: debate three. And we should say, if you want to 122 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 2: react to the debate, if you want to react to 123 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 2: our interview with Donald Trump yesterday eight hundred two eight 124 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 2: two two eight eight two, to me, the biggest takeaway, 125 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 2: and we're gonna play some of these cuts because I 126 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 2: know some of you are busy you didn't watch it. 127 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 2: I thought NBC did a really good job. The questions 128 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 2: were for the most part, very well thought out. They 129 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 2: gave candidates times to answer. There was not the super 130 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 2: woke posturing that we saw from the Univision employee. And 131 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 2: you could understand all of the anchors very clearly, which 132 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 2: does help. It helps when the English spoken is very clear. Yes, 133 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 2: But the biggest takeaway to me, Buck, and I'm curious 134 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 2: what your single biggest takeaway. Tim Scott and Chris Christy 135 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 2: are are nice guys. They don't belong on the stage anymore. 136 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:37,480 Speaker 2: It is It is a The second tier is a 137 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 2: three person yes contest. Now that that's by the time 138 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:43,479 Speaker 2: we get to Tuscaloosa next month, it should only be 139 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 2: veik Ramaswami, Nicky Hayley, and Ron I think that'll actually 140 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 2: be some fireworks. I think that'll be an interesting debate. 141 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 2: It helps the debate the fewer people who are on 142 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 2: the stage well, and which you have, you know, some 143 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 2: of these dynamics that were playing out. Remember, last night 144 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:03,599 Speaker 2: was an national security focused debate. The first hour, certainly 145 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 2: the first thirty forty minutes was heavily on the issues 146 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 2: of what to do about Ukraine and what to do 147 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 2: about the Israel Hamas war that's ongoing right now, US 148 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 2: military funding all of that, A lot of discussion of 149 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 2: how much money we're going to spend to fund foreign militaries, 150 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 2: which was also I think interesting and worth taking a 151 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 2: step back from and wondering if the GOP really thinks 152 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 2: through all those implications. But let's start with just because 153 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 2: we could start the fireworks and get into the policy. 154 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 2: What do you say this was because Vivec I find 155 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 2: that on based on my own sort of personal conversations 156 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 2: with people and then what I see online. I think 157 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 2: Vivek is the most polarizing of the non Trump can. 158 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 2: I think that's actually like, I know a lot of 159 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 2: people that like that, that are they're all in on Trump, 160 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 2: But they'll say to me, like, I think DeSantis is 161 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 2: a super sharp guy and a great governor or, or 162 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 2: you know, they'll say, you know, they don't they're okay 163 00:07:58,000 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 2: with you know, they think Nikki Haley is a smart 164 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 2: lady and you know whatever. Like there, they tend they 165 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 2: tend to have other people with vivic I I come 166 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 2: across people who. 167 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 3: Love the guy and people who really do not like him. 168 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 2: You know, he's some And I bring it up just 169 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 2: because if that's the perception that's out there in the 170 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 2: general population. Nicki Haley is definitely not a loves the guy. First, 171 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 2: Yes she is not. This is this is where things 172 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 2: got particularly he did last night. We want to start 173 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 2: with this and like I said, we will get into 174 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 2: some of the policy and everything else, but I want 175 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 2: you to listen for the word she uses to describe him. 176 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 2: She kind of just threw it in here, Plake, this 177 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 2: has cut three. Nicki Haley to Vivake. 178 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 4: I want to laugh at why Nicki Haley didn't answer 179 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:43,439 Speaker 4: your question, which is about looking at families in the eye. 180 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 4: In the last debate, she made fun of me for 181 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 4: actually joining TikTok while her own daughter was actually using 182 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:50,199 Speaker 4: the app for a long time. So you might want 183 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 4: to take care of your family first. 184 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 5: The next generation of Americans are using and that's actually 185 00:08:58,840 --> 00:08:59,320 Speaker 5: the point. 186 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:01,319 Speaker 3: You have her support, crapping her up. 187 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:04,199 Speaker 5: That's fine, here's the Truth's the easy answer. 188 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 3: You're just scum. 189 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 2: She throws in there over the mic at the debate 190 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 2: over a TikTok question, which I didn't think this would 191 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 2: get so heated. So this, to me was the moment 192 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 2: that everybody is going to be reacting to. And I 193 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 2: haven't watched television, but I would imagine the drama of 194 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:28,560 Speaker 2: that interchange is dominating discussion. So first question, I think 195 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 2: a lot of you out there are analyzing. She's basically 196 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 2: Nikki Haley saying, don't talk about my daughter. The theke 197 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 2: talked about her adult daughter being on TikTok. I think 198 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 2: that's fair game, do you. I mean I say that 199 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 2: as a parent. Well, see for people like if it 200 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 2: were a fourteen or fifteen year old, I would say, yeah, 201 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 2: you shouldn't really bring family in. But the veke on 202 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 2: TikTok and his own competitor's daughter, who's I believe twenty 203 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 2: three and married. 204 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:56,479 Speaker 3: Now yeah, yeah, yeah. 205 00:09:56,520 --> 00:10:00,040 Speaker 2: Look, as you know, as this audience knows, I'm a 206 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 2: little bit out on an island here when it comes 207 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 2: to TikTok because I've just learned so many neat tricks 208 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 2: you love for cooking my steaks perfectly. 209 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 3: And I like, I'm just gonna tell you it is. 210 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:12,559 Speaker 2: It is super addictive, and you know, it gives me 211 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 2: a lot of tactical tips for being out on the range. 212 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 2: Like there's some great TikTok accounts out there, and people say, oh, well, 213 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:20,679 Speaker 2: China is gonna get China. I am more worried about 214 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 2: Google right now, and I think it's so interesting. People like, well, 215 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 2: why are the YouTube is fine? And I'm like, why 216 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 2: is YouTube fine? YouTube won't post our interview with Trump? 217 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 3: Yeah? 218 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 2: They want to take they want to take your kids 219 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 2: away from you. If you wouldn't get the vacs. I mean, 220 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 2: these people are out of their minds. Or if you won't, 221 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:36,319 Speaker 2: you know, gender affirm that they're a different gender twelve. 222 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 2: Uh So anyway that that's a little bit of my 223 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 2: I have a heretical take, I guess. 224 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 3: For the GOP on this one, is it fair game 225 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 3: to your question, Clay, I. 226 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 2: Mean, I don't know if you bring in like someone's 227 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 2: family necessarily in that in that context, but I will 228 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 2: tell you this to say, you're just scummed. 229 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, Like that's that's a that's a wow moment. 230 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 2: If I were ranking it to me e Vivek saying 231 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 2: you're a because he says your adult daughter, if he 232 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:04,960 Speaker 2: had said your fourteen year old is on singe, that's fair. 233 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 2: It's if we're talking about somebody who's not not an adult, 234 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 2: you know, you're fourteen, fifteen year old, and you bring 235 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 2: that person even college kids, she's I believe the daughter 236 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 2: is out of college, she is married now, she's an adult. 237 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:19,840 Speaker 2: The answer that I thought would have been way better 238 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 2: for Nicki Haley on TikTok, and I thought this in 239 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 2: real time then I was talking about it with my 240 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 2: own daughter, my own daughter, I don't have a daughter 241 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 2: my own wife about our kids. 242 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 3: I don't have a daughter that I know of. 243 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:35,680 Speaker 2: Hopefully I got out there and I said, look, every 244 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:39,560 Speaker 2: parent and every grandparent young kids do things that you 245 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 2: disagree with. So I actually think Nicki Haley could have 246 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 2: answered that really well and said, yeah, you know what, 247 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:48,439 Speaker 2: I don't think that my teenagers should have been on TikTok. 248 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 3: I wish i'd kept them off social media. I have 249 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 3: regrets as a parent about some of the. 250 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 2: Choices my kids made, But guess what my own parents 251 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 2: had regrets about some of the choices I made too. 252 00:11:57,400 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 3: That's how parenting works. 253 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 2: You think you can protect your kids from making poor 254 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 2: choices and you can't. To me, that's way better of 255 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 2: a response than calling him scum, because to me, it 256 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 2: goes and my wife, and I'm curious what Carrie said afterwards. 257 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 2: My wife said, The way I take it is Nicky 258 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:19,440 Speaker 2: Haley knows way more about the vaik Ramaswami. That wasn't 259 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 2: about him saying something about her daughter. It was that 260 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:25,320 Speaker 2: she genuinely detested him already, and it was like the 261 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 2: straw that broke the camel's back, so to speak, in 262 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 2: terms of like but that means she got her emotions 263 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:32,200 Speaker 2: wrapped up in it a little bit, and I'm curious 264 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:35,559 Speaker 2: how that plays. But last time I thought when she said, 265 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 2: I you know something, we played it for you guys 266 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 2: every time, every time you speak, and I get dumber. 267 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 2: Nikki Haley said, I thought that was a little too 268 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 2: harsh under the circumstances. And she actually, you saw some 269 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 2: movement for her odders in the polls, So this time around, 270 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:53,959 Speaker 2: you know, maybe people like that she was getting a 271 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 2: little feisty on the stage. Look there, I'll say this 272 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 2: about it and we can get back into some takes. 273 00:12:58,480 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 2: I also want to hear from some of you, by 274 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 2: the way, if you have I want to know this, 275 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 2: if you have a really pro or anti nicky or 276 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 2: viveve take, that's what we want to hear. People who 277 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 2: are really fired off one way or the other about 278 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:15,719 Speaker 2: the nicky Vivek throwed out. I'm kind of curious to 279 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 2: hear that. And I would just say this to me, 280 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 2: Rona Santis was ron right, competent, good answers, memorable, not 281 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 2: really memorable. But you know you're comparing it to you know, 282 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:32,439 Speaker 2: you're not gonna if you're doing William f Fuckley, sit down. 283 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 3: You're not gonna do you know, You're not gonna be 284 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 3: the same as Jerry Springer. 285 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 4: Right. 286 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 2: Things got a little testy on that stand, and he's 287 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 2: directly between them, so it's kind of an awkward dynamic 288 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 2: where they're yelling back over him. It's like if you've 289 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 2: ever been on an airplane where two people are yelling 290 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 2: at each other and you're in the middle seat, you're 291 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 2: kind of like, hey, what do I do here? I mean, 292 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 2: he came across I think a little bit as as 293 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 2: adult in the room. Because of that. He wasn't getting 294 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 2: into the mix on that stuff. His answers were, he's 295 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:59,839 Speaker 2: he's always solid. But I didn't see a breakout, right, 296 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 2: I didn't see I didn't see a ron moment where 297 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:04,560 Speaker 2: I thought, oh man, everyone's gonna remember that. So now 298 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 2: maybe that's just sort of status quo for him. And 299 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:09,319 Speaker 2: he's looking at iowah and he's saying everything will be fine. 300 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 2: The vacant Nikki though clearly that was the dynamic and 301 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 2: we should take some calls on it, and also the 302 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:16,679 Speaker 2: they had another moment some people thought was his best 303 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 2: of the night, going after the moderators. 304 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 3: I actually like that we'll talk about that when we 305 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 3: come back. 306 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 2: And also I said that I think Tim Scott and 307 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 2: Chris Christy need to drop out. 308 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 3: I didn't think they were bad. I thought they were fine. 309 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 2: They just haven't had their moment where they demonstrated that 310 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 2: they're capable of really kind of surging. 311 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 3: Can I just get a quick thought on Christy? Christy 312 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 3: is sort of turned into like guys like the dawns 313 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 3: in the room. 314 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 6: I'm just here to a mote and like I feel 315 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 6: your family struggles and everything, and like, yeah, that's all fine, 316 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 6: but like what about the guys like hey, like those 317 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 6: goons who run the teachers' unions, Like I'm gonna teach 318 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 6: them a thing or two. 319 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 2: Like he used to be a brawler, He's not really 320 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 2: a brawler though. I think that's accurate. I mean, he 321 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 2: definitely and I don't know if that's a strategic choice. 322 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 2: He's also aged teen years older than he was probably 323 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 2: when he was throwing not trying to you know, throwing 324 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 2: the weight around as a phrase, so, but when he 325 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 2: was really kind of, as you said, a brawler bombastic. 326 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 2: Maybe because Trump has so occupied that lane that he's 327 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 2: decided that he needs a new lane, or again, maybe. 328 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 3: He's just aged and feels like he is more of 329 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 3: an adult in the room. 330 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 2: I don't know, but I think we're gonna get some 331 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 2: great calls, and I want to play that the weight 332 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 2: going after the media right at the start, because I 333 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 2: think that was a tone cetter for him. 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We're going 352 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 3: to take some of your calls. 353 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 2: A lot of you want to react to what happened 354 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 2: last night between the veak Ramaswami and Nicky Hayley. But 355 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 2: I thought the strongest moment for Vivek, and it really 356 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 2: kind of set the tone for him all night, was 357 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 2: when he attacked mainstream media for rigging the past elections. 358 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 3: Cut to think about it, who's moderating this debate? 359 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 5: This should be Tucker Carlson, Joe Rogan and Elon Musk. 360 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 3: We'd have ten. 361 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 5: Times the viewership asking questions that GOP primary voters actually 362 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 5: care about and bringing more people into our party, getting 363 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 5: the Democrats and we've got Christian Walker here. 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I'm just to say 409 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 2: it was a great day in Trump world yesterday because 410 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 2: you had two pretty cool dudes hanging out at mar 411 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 2: A Lago with their wives and chilling out with Donald 412 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:14,120 Speaker 2: Trump himself, which was always It's always a good time. 413 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 2: Got even some free vanilla milkshakes, out of it, you 414 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 2: know what I mean, he picked up the tab. We 415 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:21,399 Speaker 2: appreciated it. Uh So, we had a great time at 416 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:23,679 Speaker 2: mar A Lago, really good discussion with the President about it, 417 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:25,679 Speaker 2: and I think one of the major takeaways that we 418 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 2: had from that was that Donald Trump is entirely unfazed 419 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 2: in his mentality, his energy, his focus on running for 420 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 2: president again by these trials and all this stuff. He 421 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:42,200 Speaker 2: doesn't seem shook. He doesn't seem bothered. If anything, it 422 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 2: seems like it's fired. 423 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:44,160 Speaker 3: Him up even more. 424 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:47,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, which is it was pretty remarkable. I mean, I 425 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:50,199 Speaker 2: think he was on he was on Sean's show, a 426 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 2: friend Sean Hannity Show when he said I'm maybe made 427 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:56,119 Speaker 2: of different stuff or something like that, like I'm built different. 428 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:59,239 Speaker 2: I think Trump said I'm built different, actually, and we 429 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 2: kind of saw that ourselves yesterday too. He's just he's 430 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 2: he wants to take this all the way for the country, 431 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 2: and he is not going to stop and he. 432 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 3: Is not not losing a step. All right. 433 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 2: Well, so we'll get to some of the some of 434 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:15,879 Speaker 2: the highlights of hyalayup and also some going on when 435 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 2: we talk about the Israel Hamas war. There's the actual conflict, 436 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 2: Israeli soldiers now making their way through parts of Gaza. 437 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 2: There's a house to house fighting, urban combat going on. 438 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:29,879 Speaker 2: But then there's the ideological war that is global that 439 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 2: is playing out in the streets and on college campuses. 440 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:36,199 Speaker 2: And there's been more on that as well that we 441 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 2: want to. 442 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:38,120 Speaker 3: Bring up to speed on. So we'll certainly get into 443 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:38,679 Speaker 3: some of that, but. 444 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 2: Let's take some calls here, some reactions to last night 445 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:45,439 Speaker 2: last night's debate, want to hear from from you. We 446 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 2: will start with Michael in Atlanta. 447 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:52,160 Speaker 7: Hey, guys, how you doing great? 448 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 3: Great? What's going on? 449 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 8: Well, I just wanted to just say about that exchange 450 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:01,159 Speaker 8: between the Veik and Nikki Haley. I'm not sure that 451 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 8: the viewers really understand the context in which that was given. 452 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 8: What I mean is, when we. 453 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 7: Go back to the previous debate, Hailey was basically criticizing 454 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:16,200 Speaker 7: Bbak for his Chinese connections and involving himself with TikTok, 455 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 7: and now a month later, he comes back with retorts 456 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 7: and basically trying to call her out almost as a 457 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:27,680 Speaker 7: hipcrit using his using her daughter in the process. 458 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 8: Now she goes off on him. 459 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 7: About using the daughter, but as Clay already pointed out 460 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:36,919 Speaker 7: she's to mature woman being on TikTok, so she's not 461 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 7: a fourteen year old girl. I think Vek was totally 462 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:44,439 Speaker 7: fine for doing it. I think that she overreacted to 463 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 7: the whole situation, and I think that, you know, but 464 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:50,640 Speaker 7: the problem is a lot of suburban women are going 465 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 7: to take Nicky side because you don't want to criticize 466 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 7: the mama bear. 467 00:21:56,000 --> 00:22:00,639 Speaker 2: But yeah, I think it's a really thank you for call, Michael. 468 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 2: I actually let's go to Sharon. Sharon, you're in Austin. 469 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 2: Are you a suburban mom? 470 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:10,199 Speaker 9: Yeah? I am all right. 471 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:11,639 Speaker 3: I thought that was probably a good guest. 472 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 2: So you just heard Michael say suburban moms are all 473 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 2: going to line up behind Nikki. 474 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 3: What did you think of the situation? 475 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 9: Resoletely not. I think she came across as a bitch. 476 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 9: She did the last debate, you know, when she said, 477 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 9: you know what she did about just listening to him 478 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:34,399 Speaker 9: makes him make her feel dumb, you know, and then 479 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 9: the crackpot last night about her daughter. You know, she 480 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 9: just comes off as a bitch. And I don't think 481 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:47,959 Speaker 9: we want anyone like that represent representing us on the 482 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 9: world stage, because if she loses her cool and snaps. 483 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 9: You know that's not going to look good for us. 484 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 3: So who do you support? 485 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:55,879 Speaker 7: Sharon? 486 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,159 Speaker 3: Who is who is your candidate? I'm curious if have 487 00:22:58,200 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 3: you chosen. 488 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:03,440 Speaker 9: Or who from? He can be snarky sometimes and sometimes 489 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:05,920 Speaker 9: I go, you know, you don't need to do that. 490 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:08,880 Speaker 9: You're better than that. But at least he doesn't come 491 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 9: off as a bitch. 492 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:15,119 Speaker 2: Well, thank you for calling me women out there and 493 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:16,160 Speaker 2: salty on this one. 494 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,160 Speaker 3: Women out there? I'm curious too. 495 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 2: I mean, Sharon, you heard Michael say he thought suburban 496 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:22,440 Speaker 2: women would respond positively. 497 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:24,440 Speaker 3: I think most buck and you want. 498 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:25,920 Speaker 2: To put out the clay and buck bat signal for 499 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:29,360 Speaker 2: suburban moms, burbon moms, I'm curious how you would respond. 500 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,440 Speaker 2: My take on it is, and look, i'm a dad, 501 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 2: but my take as a dad is if you attack 502 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:39,880 Speaker 2: one of my kids when they are under like not adults, 503 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 2: it kind of wa But also I think there's a 504 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:44,360 Speaker 2: distinction here. He didn't really attack her. He just said, look, 505 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:45,360 Speaker 2: your daughter's using. 506 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 3: That well, but he said, maybe worry about your own 507 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 3: house instead. Okay, it's for a lot, but he didn't 508 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:51,119 Speaker 3: you know, it's not. 509 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:54,359 Speaker 2: But again, to me, Nicky had a chance there in 510 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:57,879 Speaker 2: that response to just actually make the case for why 511 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 2: she doesn't want TikTok because it's seductive to young people. 512 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,119 Speaker 2: And if she had said, and I bet, like a 513 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 2: lot of you out there listening, because we think about 514 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:09,200 Speaker 2: this all the time, for social media for our kids, 515 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,879 Speaker 2: they are attracted to it. It's no surprise they build 516 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:17,639 Speaker 2: these apps that are seductive. But as adults, you would 517 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:20,920 Speaker 2: like to keep your kids off longer. So she said, look, 518 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 2: my daughter's an adult now. I told her, I don't 519 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:26,200 Speaker 2: think you should be on social media. She said, Mom, 520 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 2: I know better than you, which every child has said 521 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,360 Speaker 2: to every parent their whole life. But there are lots 522 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 2: of teenagers out there that are younger than my daughter 523 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 2: that I don't think should be on social media. And I 524 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 2: bet a lot of parents and grandparents agree, I think 525 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 2: she would have won that interaction. You know, I also 526 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:42,399 Speaker 2: wanted to note that there was a moment with vivid 527 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 2: you know, the things that got the most attention, as 528 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,440 Speaker 2: we've already discussed the Vivike and Nikki back and forth, 529 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:49,199 Speaker 2: and this is just the nature of politics when you 530 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 2: have people who are fighting on on on that stage 531 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 2: in that way it's gonna get a lot of attention. 532 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 2: But there was something really interesting that Viveke said, and 533 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:01,119 Speaker 2: it really was a moment of and he was gracious 534 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:04,119 Speaker 2: to Governor DeSantis when he was saying it, because the 535 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:08,880 Speaker 2: Santas talked about overdose deaths, but it but viveg framed this. 536 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:11,719 Speaker 2: This was actually, I thought the most insightful thing that 537 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:15,159 Speaker 2: he said on the debate stage last night. I'm not 538 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:16,879 Speaker 2: saying there weren't other things, but for me, this is 539 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 2: which is that we're really actually talking about a lot 540 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 2: of the time poisoning versus overdoses. 541 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:25,119 Speaker 3: Yet really well, Ron. 542 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 2: Was shaking his head in agreement with this, because I 543 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,360 Speaker 2: remember I was I sat with some people, some very 544 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 2: senior DOJ folks some year ago. Obviously Trump administration DJ 545 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:36,200 Speaker 2: folks won't sit down with me now into the Biden administration, 546 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,400 Speaker 2: but so just sort of getting some on background from 547 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:43,399 Speaker 2: them about the fentanyl issue, and they told me, you know, 548 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 2: what you have to understand is that the cartels know 549 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 2: that when people take stuff, they want to believe that 550 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:53,399 Speaker 2: it's safe in pharmaceutical grade a lot of the time, 551 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 2: so they will actually make pills that are supposed to 552 00:25:58,119 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 2: look like the big pharma up pills. 553 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 3: So if you if you were showing this, you say, oh, 554 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 3: that looks just. 555 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:05,879 Speaker 2: Like and whether it's a you know, a xanax or 556 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,679 Speaker 2: any of the benzos or some of these things, and 557 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 2: you're taking thinking, oh, this is what I'm buying. You know, 558 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 2: obviously these are you know, legal, but this is what 559 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:16,399 Speaker 2: I'm buying from somebody, and actually it's mixed with fentanyl, 560 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 2: or it's fentanyl entirely, and somebody dies because they've taken 561 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 2: something that has been misrepresented or taken something for which 562 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 2: the dosage, the dosing issue on fentanyl is a is 563 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 2: a massive component of this too. The quality control of 564 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 2: the fentanyl that you take or the car fentanyl that 565 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 2: you take that that's given to you by doctor if 566 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 2: you have you know, cancer or something that you know 567 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:41,399 Speaker 2: needs that level of drugs for for controlling pain. The 568 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:43,960 Speaker 2: cartels make this stuff and the dosing levels or whatever 569 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 2: they're making in a vat in you know, Guadalajara. So 570 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 2: that was a really important insight, and you saw actually 571 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 2: the VIC and Governor DeSantis because it's a poisoning that's 572 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:58,120 Speaker 2: that's often happening thousands of thousands of people, not that 573 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 2: that's it's not about where you know that makes it, 574 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 2: that changes the loss of the life of the person 575 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 2: and the damage to their family. It's about how nefarious 576 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 2: the cartels are, right that people It's not just that 577 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 2: people are getting so addicted that they're overdosing. People are 578 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,919 Speaker 2: taking something they think is legal and legitimate, or at 579 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 2: least legally made and legitimate, and dying from it. And 580 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,359 Speaker 2: so that's how dangerous it is. So I thought that 581 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,640 Speaker 2: was an important moment in the debate last night. Yeah, 582 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:26,400 Speaker 2: you're right about that. And for people out there who 583 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:28,639 Speaker 2: may not think about it, a kid might take a 584 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,920 Speaker 2: raid party drug that is not considered like an exod 585 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:33,399 Speaker 2: I don't even know what this stuff's called now, like 586 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:37,120 Speaker 2: an ecstasy tablet or something that has been laced with fentanyl, 587 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 2: and you die from it. And I've read articles that 588 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 2: even people who use cocaine now and look, don't use 589 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,880 Speaker 2: drugs kids, but even people who use cocaine are now 590 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:50,199 Speaker 2: testing because they don't trust the powder. So these party 591 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 2: partiers are getting fentanyl laced on everything that basically any 592 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 2: any kind of drug, and even things that are not 593 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,920 Speaker 2: remotely danger I mean, it's a scary stuff. Yeah, fentanyl 594 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 2: is easy to make the cartel. It's easy to make. 595 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:09,679 Speaker 2: It is incredibly potent, and it is super addictive. It 596 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 2: is the most dangerous that the drugs, the opioids, the 597 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:17,439 Speaker 2: synthetic opioids. It's the most dangerous addictive substance that we 598 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:21,119 Speaker 2: face as a scourge in this country ever. And the 599 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 2: cartels are making billions of dollars off of it, and 600 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 2: we're losing one hundred thousand Americans a year. 601 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 3: So you know, it's an urgent issue. 602 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 2: And I think it brings up the urgency of national 603 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 2: security at the border, which did get some attention last 604 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,240 Speaker 2: night from all the candidates. I thought was a good thing. Yeah, 605 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 2: we'll talk about that. We'll take your calls top of 606 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 2: the next hour. By the way, I think it's time 607 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 2: to contemplate who actually should be And we talked about 608 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 2: this a little bit in the next debate, which is 609 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 2: going to take place in Tuscolosa, Alabama. And then thinking 610 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 2: about here's the question that ultimately matters. Does the math 611 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,719 Speaker 2: add up that anybody, if it even ended up one 612 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 2: v one, could beat Trump. That's the question that is 613 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 2: looming out there. I think as we come down the 614 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 2: stretcherun Here, Megan Kelly, our friend is going to be 615 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 2: the moderator for the debate that's taking place by the 616 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 2: way in December. 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Well, listen, 645 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 5: I'm standing in front of tens of thousands of people right. 646 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 3: Now and it's on television. 647 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 7: That's a hell of a lot. 648 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 3: Harder to do than a debate. 649 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 2: So Trump last By the way, my wife is listening. 650 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 2: She likes Nicky Haley. She said, I like her. We 651 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 2: need a bitch on that wall. My wife suburban mom. 652 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 2: So I think suburban moms are going to be divided 653 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 2: as many people out there are going to be divided 654 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 2: based on that. And look, I don't have a problem 655 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 2: with Trump being a jerk with Nicky Haley being a jerk. 656 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 2: My issue is just it could have been more strategic. 657 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 2: A lot of dumb things, but as your kids get older, 658 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:35,080 Speaker 2: you'll probably recognize that they don't always listen to you. 659 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 2: And that's one of the frustrating things about being a 660 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 2: parent because you've already been through everything that your kids 661 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:41,720 Speaker 2: have and you. 662 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:42,520 Speaker 3: Think you know better. 663 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 2: But guess what, that's the ultimate payback because when you 664 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 2: were a teenager and you were young and you were 665 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 2: doing dumb things, your parents thought, Hey, why don't they 666 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:56,640 Speaker 2: just listen to us? We got Catherine in Florida wants 667 00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 2: to weigh in on this one. 668 00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 3: What's up, Catherine. 669 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:03,840 Speaker 10: Buck, I'm a suburban mom in Florida. I think the 670 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 10: vek's response to Nicki on TikTok was completely fair. He 671 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:12,520 Speaker 10: pointed out the hypocrisy of her comment and whether whether 672 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 10: the daughter was fourteen or twenty three. He wasn't being 673 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,760 Speaker 10: personal against the daughter, he was just pointing out the hypocrisy. 674 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 10: I think I don't like Nicki Haley. I don't trust her, 675 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,600 Speaker 10: and I think every time she plays the woman card 676 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 10: it's cringe worthy. You know, whether it's I heal comments or. 677 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 3: My support. 678 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 2: By the way, Catherine Pardoney, who do you support? Is 679 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:35,320 Speaker 2: there somebody that you're behind? 680 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 10: Yeah, absolutely, anybody ultimately that has an R behind their name. 681 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 10: But I would much prefer the Santas and the VEC 682 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 10: and then number three would be Trump. 683 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 3: Interesting. 684 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 2: Interesting, I think there was there was a thank you 685 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 2: for the call, Catherine. You know you have that moment 686 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 2: where Nicki Haley said the thing about I've got uh wait, 687 00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:03,520 Speaker 2: we actually have this old wash heel line and and 688 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 2: it was, oh no, we don't have that, Okay, forget it, 689 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 2: that's fine. She said something like, I've got three inch 690 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 2: heels and and they're not for something, They're for ammunition. 691 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 2: I can't remember. We said they're actually five inch heels 692 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 2: and I have to be able to run in them, 693 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:22,040 Speaker 2: and they're also ammunition. I think she kick people with them. 694 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:25,440 Speaker 2: Yeah that that that didn't land. That didn't land. But 695 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 2: I will say that we get, you know, because I 696 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:29,800 Speaker 2: always feel like, whatever, we have too many people that 697 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:31,520 Speaker 2: are on one side of an issue. They think that 698 00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:34,480 Speaker 2: they're just taking the calls as they come in. We 699 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:39,800 Speaker 2: are getting vip emails in that support Nicky. In this exchange, 700 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:41,240 Speaker 2: you can say that it was out of line, to 701 00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 2: be clear. Mark says, for instance, my sense is Nicky 702 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,760 Speaker 2: Haley thinks the Vake is just a punk who hasn't 703 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 2: paid his dues. 704 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:50,400 Speaker 3: Who the hell does he think he is? 705 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 2: I like her And also Kitty says, it seemed to 706 00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:59,240 Speaker 2: me that when responding to the Vake, Nicky Haley was 707 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:02,840 Speaker 2: almost going for a Will Smith Chris Rock moment, uh, 708 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:06,200 Speaker 2: deciding against it at the last moment. I do think 709 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:10,399 Speaker 2: scumbag was very Trumpian. I do think it's interesting, Well, 710 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:14,959 Speaker 2: she said your scum. If Trump said your scum, Trump 711 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:19,360 Speaker 2: people would have no issue with it. If Trump people 712 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:23,399 Speaker 2: have an issue with Nicky Haley saying your scum, why 713 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:27,480 Speaker 2: would you have a different opinion if you Yeah, but 714 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,560 Speaker 2: if your position is I think it's uncouth. 715 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:31,680 Speaker 3: I think it's not. It's not. 716 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,239 Speaker 2: Everybody for everybody. Yeah, I think that's I think that's 717 00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:38,880 Speaker 2: a fair point. So yeah, we could take we also 718 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:40,959 Speaker 2: have on the lines. 719 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:42,720 Speaker 3: I just lost the second there. 720 00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,440 Speaker 2: Paul in Wisconsin, Paul, what have you got for us? 721 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:49,239 Speaker 11: You know, guys, every time I see Nicky Haley talk, 722 00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:52,920 Speaker 11: I see George W. Bush in address. If George W. 723 00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:58,360 Speaker 11: Was a hormonal twelve year old girl. She she's talking 724 00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,839 Speaker 11: trash about Ron DeSantis RNA Saint Justus is pushing back 725 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:05,840 Speaker 11: against Disney, fighting the culture wars, and she's in South 726 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,080 Speaker 11: Carolina saying, yeah, Disney, come on down here. 727 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:13,080 Speaker 2: Will and Nicki Haley, the places where she gets she 728 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:16,600 Speaker 2: gets hit the hardest are on being effectively a GOP 729 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:23,359 Speaker 2: establishment corporatist, and particularly a corporatist for the defense contractors. 730 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:25,440 Speaker 2: I mean, she was on the board of Boeing after 731 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:29,520 Speaker 2: she left the Trump administration being US Ambassador the United Nations. 732 00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:31,960 Speaker 2: And I think there's also a little bit of a 733 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:35,680 Speaker 2: personal thing here. I mean, Vivek is crazy rich. You know, 734 00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:40,279 Speaker 2: Viveke has made a basically close to it. Yeah, and 735 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:42,839 Speaker 2: you know, Nicki Haley was somebody who was doing well 736 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:44,520 Speaker 2: but was making a couple hundred thousand dollars a year 737 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,520 Speaker 2: as governor and has no family money. And I think 738 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:51,200 Speaker 2: that when Vivek goes after her for the defense contractor stuff, 739 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,560 Speaker 2: she resents that this super rich guy is basically you 740 00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:56,920 Speaker 2: know what I mean, there's there's no I wonder if there's. 741 00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:58,000 Speaker 3: An Indian dynamic here. 742 00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:00,760 Speaker 2: Nicky Haley is half Indian, but has has ever really 743 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 2: leaned into that aspect of her personality. 744 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:05,160 Speaker 3: Vivek is not hiding it at all. 745 00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:08,799 Speaker 2: Maybe we've got Indian listeners who are catching some sort 746 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:12,360 Speaker 2: of dynamic there that as two normal, goofy white dudes 747 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:13,000 Speaker 2: we're not getting. 748 00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:15,000 Speaker 3: I don't know, maybe there's something there. Anyone wants to 749 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,440 Speaker 3: weigh in eight two eight A two. 750 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,400 Speaker 2: We're to come back and talk more about the biggest 751 00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:23,360 Speaker 2: takeaways from it. I got a question for all of you, 752 00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:27,520 Speaker 2: how many ships, exactly should the United States Navy have