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Speaker 1: Lebron James has won nine straight Do or Die games,

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Speaker 1: I think the Lakers would get to the championship game

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Speaker 1: This was a rematch. She went into the tournament. We

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Speaker 1: knew the story. They lost last year. Here they come back,

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Speaker 1: they face South Carolina. I mean, ninety percent of Hollywood

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Speaker 1: the in season tournament won in their playing games with Lebron.

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Speaker 1: And the Lakers did what they do. They got to

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Speaker 1: And I don't mind him doing this at all. During

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Speaker 1: Let's speed the pace of play up, fewer whistles. That

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Speaker 1: Has grown a wicked mustache since he's been at the volume,

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Speaker 3: But I think Luca has a legitimate case, and I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Lucas played better defense this year. If

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Speaker 1: Phoenix has been my disappointment in the league. I thought

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Speaker 3: about them as a team. And there is something to

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Speaker 3: be said about Julius Randall coming out of the lineup

428
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Speaker 3: and that leading towards less of some of the ugly

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Speaker 3: things we've seen from New York Cord the years, because

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Speaker 3: Julius Randall, he has a tendency like things don't go asway,

431
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Speaker 3: misses a couple of shots, he'll take defensive possessions off,

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Speaker 3: He'll pout like that's that's something Julius Randall's been known

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Speaker 3: to do at times. Right, So, like there's been a

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Speaker 3: lot of upside in a regular see, he's not been

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Speaker 3: a great playoff guy. He's exactly really struggle. In Julius

436
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Speaker 3: Randalls defense, he's had some injuries when he's gotten to

437
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Speaker 3: the postseason and is usually playing a little banked up.

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Speaker 3: But yes, he's had a really rough playoff career to

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Speaker 3: this point. Here's the problem, Like, I think we both

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Speaker 3: agree that like the future of the Knicks probably doesn't

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Speaker 3: involve Julius Radel to probably do something different there, But

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Speaker 3: strictly within the context of this season, it's this simple.

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Speaker 3: In a playoff setting, you can really throw the kitchen

444
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Speaker 3: sink at a team that all operates through one star,

445
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Speaker 3: and there's only so much that effort and energy and

446
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Speaker 3: focus and basketball character can make up for. And the

447
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Speaker 3: main stat to kind of like drive that point home

448
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Speaker 3: is that as good as the Knicks have been this

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Speaker 3: year against teams in the top ten in point differential,

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Speaker 3: they are seven and seventeen, and they have the fourteenth

451
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Speaker 3: worst point differential themselves in those matchups. So like, they

452
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Speaker 3: play really hard, they win all the games they're supposed

453
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Speaker 3: to win, and then they run into the teams to

454
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Speaker 3: have more firepower and they lose. That's pretty much the

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Speaker 3: issue with the So like, I respect them, I have

456
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Speaker 3: a ton of optimism about the future. They're super well

457
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Speaker 3: positioned for a trade if they want to make a

458
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Speaker 3: trade this summer. They're in a great spot. But like,

459
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Speaker 3: do I think they're gonna go on some sort of

460
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Speaker 3: magical playoff run? Not necessarily.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'll take Minnesota to beat Phoenix. I think it's

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Speaker 1: a six game series. I don't really know exactly. I've

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Speaker 1: watched actually a lot of Phoenix and a little of Minnesota,

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Speaker 1: but I do think Minnesota they've done. They've been too

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Speaker 1: consistently good to flame out in the first round. And

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Speaker 1: when I watch Minnesota, and maybe the analytics tell me

467
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Speaker 1: something different, but I feel like I kind of get

468
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Speaker 1: the same team when I watch them play. They're highs lows.

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Speaker 1: I kind of feel like I get effort, I get

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Speaker 1: rim protection, I get ants production, I get Conley's brain power.

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Speaker 1: I always feel they're prepared and well coached. With Phoenix,

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Speaker 1: there's good nights and then they trail thirty five to

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Speaker 1: four at home to the Clippers, And so I think

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Speaker 1: Minnesota is a consistent team with a little bit of

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Speaker 1: a ceiling. I think I take Minnesota in six, picking

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Speaker 1: a paragraph.

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Speaker 3: I'm taking Phoenix in six. I'm really excited to watch

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Speaker 3: today's game because very rarely do you get like a

479
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Speaker 3: must win game to sample when you're prepping for a

480
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Speaker 3: series where it's like, we get to actually watch forty

481
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Speaker 3: eight minutes of the Wolves and Suns going at it,

482
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Speaker 3: actually trying to win. So that's gonna be a really,

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Speaker 3: really a good film session tomorrow. Main thing that stands

484
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Speaker 3: out to me though, that the Sun shots super well.

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Speaker 3: They got one point seven to six points per catch

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Speaker 3: and shoot jump shot in that win over the Wolves. Today,

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Speaker 3: so they definitely shot really, really well. Here's why I'm

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Speaker 3: low on Minnesota, though. It's really simple. They are one

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Speaker 3: of the worst offenses in the league when you get

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Speaker 3: into late game situations because Anthony Edwards is twenty two

491
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Speaker 3: years old and nobody else on the team can really

492
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Speaker 3: consistently generate great shots, and so it's a lot of

493
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Speaker 3: iffy decisions. It's ant settling for pull up jump shots,

494
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:03,479
Speaker 3: and then weirdly enough, their defense falls apart. For as

495
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Speaker 3: good of a defense as they've been, their defense falls

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Speaker 3: apart in clutch situations because of the fact that Mike

497
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Speaker 3: Conley's on the floor, Carl Towns is on the floor.

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Speaker 3: You can find entry points to get their defense in rotation.

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Speaker 3: And then it doesn't matter if Rudy Gobert's at the rim,

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Speaker 3: if he's chasing some guy off the three point line

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Speaker 3: in a driving kick situation, I think the Suns are

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Speaker 3: going to spread him out and get better shots. I

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Speaker 3: think they'll be able to slow down Minnesota's office in

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Speaker 3: the half court. I'm picking Phoenix and six.

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Speaker 1: Let's go East Cleveland and Orlando. Orlando is maybe a

506
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Speaker 1: little bit like the ok See of the West. Young

507
00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:42,359
Speaker 1: really rising quickly. My guy Jalen Suggs is an improved player,

508
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Speaker 1: like a lot of people have him as a bust

509
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Speaker 1: early last year. So Cleveland's been weird, Cleveland's going through something.

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Speaker 1: I think i'd still take the Calves. I don't know,

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Speaker 1: that could be a seven game series. My picking paragraph

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Speaker 1: Cleveland and seven something's wrong with them? What's your picking paragraph?

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Speaker 3: These series are always tough to pick when everyone involved

514
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,359
Speaker 3: is so young and unexperienced that it's like so up

515
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Speaker 3: in the air. Personnel favors Orlando. Orlando's an awesome offensive

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Speaker 3: rebounding team. That is how New York beat Cleveland last year.

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Speaker 3: They killed him on the offensive glass. Also, Cleveland is

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00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,359
Speaker 3: one of the most high volume pick and roll teams

519
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Speaker 3: in the league. And your guy Jalen Suggs might be

520
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 3: the best guard defender in the league. And so Donovan

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Speaker 3: Mitchell is going to be in for a tough series

522
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Speaker 3: with just an incredible individual defender on him. So all

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Speaker 3: the personnel stuff points me towards Orlando. But Orlando is

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Speaker 3: super young, and Cleveland got embarrassed last year, and they

525
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Speaker 3: know what the playoffs are like now, so I expect

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Speaker 3: a lot of fight from them. I'm gonna go long series.

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Speaker 3: In gut check, I'm just gonna say magic, but we'll see.

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Speaker 1: After I watched some film Milwaukee over Indiana. I think

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Speaker 1: it's contrasting styles. Again. Two of the three best players

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Speaker 1: are Milwaukee. They'll probably get because it's a veteran team.

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Speaker 1: They'll get the veteran team, whistle, a little more manipulation

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Speaker 1: from a Lopez and the Yannis and a day and

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Speaker 1: with the officials. It's one of these like this will

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Speaker 1: be a series. My prediction is when it's over, Indiana'll

535
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Speaker 1: be like, you don't like us. We're a small market team.

536
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 1: We got a job by the refs. But these older

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Speaker 1: teams are pretty good, like the Clippers will be good

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Speaker 1: in these situations. I'm gonna take Milwaukee in six. What's

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Speaker 1: your thought?

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Speaker 3: I would take Milwaukee in seven if I knew Janis

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Speaker 3: was healthy. With Yannis being out, I just don't think

542
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 3: the Bucks are a very good team. And if he

543
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 3: misses three games in this series, it's possible that Indiana

544
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Speaker 3: could be up to one with a game at home.

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Speaker 3: You know, before Yannis even comes out, it comes back.

546
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Speaker 3: So like with Yannis being out, I think the safe

547
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Speaker 3: bet is Indiana. But if like Yannis plays and he's healthy,

548
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Speaker 3: like I think, I would probably lean slightly towards Milwaukee.

549
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:57,359
Speaker 3: I'd pick Milwaukee in seven.

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Speaker 1: So I'm really interested in a lot of the I mean,

551
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 1: like Milwaukee losing Early's fascinating. Steve Balmer I thought when

552
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Speaker 1: he brought Harden over. I was talking to Lawrence Frank

553
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Speaker 1: about this. I bumped into him at dinner about a

554
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Speaker 1: month ago, and I said, I thought the hardened thing

555
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,120
Speaker 1: was just for the arena. I'm like, you know, he's

556
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Speaker 1: an LA guy. Westbrook's an LA guy. Paul George Quiet,

557
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 1: It's like LA guys opening the new arena. And I'm like,

558
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,200
Speaker 1: he's actually, you guys have been looking for a point

559
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 1: guard forever. He actually lubricates things. It's in cole When

560
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 1: Kawhi's like trying to generate offense, It's like, no, it's

561
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Speaker 1: not what he does. He can do it, but it's

562
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Speaker 1: not what he does. And the hardened things sort of work.

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Speaker 1: But you get James's weird personality again. He's he's a

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Speaker 1: nod player. He's an odd, quirky guy. I think, much

565
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Speaker 1: like the Bucks, if the Clippers flamed out, I think

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Speaker 1: Balmer was an inpatient investor and impatient at Microsoft. Am

567
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 1: I supposed to believe is a sports fan. Now you

568
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 1: know he's suddenly going to be one of these long

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Speaker 1: tarmac guys like I think. No. I think the Clippers

570
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 1: lose and it's they don't get a lot of consistent effort.

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Speaker 1: Do you think they blow the team up?

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Speaker 3: I think that's completely on the table. I mean to

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Speaker 3: put it simply, Colin, we could have four veteran teams

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Speaker 3: blow up this. Just imagine some of these scenarios. Golden

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Speaker 3: State loses in the plane, which, by the way, Golden

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Speaker 3: State even if they beat Sacramento. If the Lakers beat

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Speaker 3: New Orleans, New Orleans has Golden State's number, there's a

578
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Speaker 3: solid chance Golden State does not get out of this

579
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 3: playing tournament. They could be facing a total rebuild. Let's

580
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Speaker 3: say the Lakers beat the Pelicans, but then they go

581
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 3: to Denver and just get killed. You don't think the

582
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 3: Lakers are gonna be sitting there looking in the mirror

583
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 3: like we just got swept, or the gentleman swept two

584
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 3: years in a row. We got to rethink this. What

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Speaker 3: if Phoenix loses to Minnesota they just went all in

586
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Speaker 3: on Kevin Durant, Bradley Beal and Devin Booker and they

587
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 3: had an iffy regular season, and what if they get

588
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 3: smacked by Minnesota? Right The Clippers, if they go out

589
00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,239
Speaker 3: in flames, that could be a problem. The Bucks if

590
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 3: they go down and flame, that could be a problem.

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Speaker 3: What about Miami. What if Miami loses to Philly and

592
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 3: don't forget Atlanta beat Miami in a playing game last

593
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 3: year because they couldn't rebound with him. What if like

594
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Speaker 3: Chicago or Atlanta gets in there and knocks out Miami.

595
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 3: Miami could be looking at this like, are we really

596
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 3: going to run it back with Bam and Jimmy again?

597
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 3: When we struggle every regular season and then we just

598
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 3: barely squeak by and upset people in the postseason, Like

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Speaker 3: this could be because of how deep the field is,

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Speaker 3: because there are so many good teams, We're gonna have

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Speaker 3: a bunch of pissed off general managers and owners this summer.

602
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Speaker 3: That's like a guarantee. It's just a question of who.

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Speaker 3: There's going to be a lot of really unhappy fan

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Speaker 3: bases and ownership groups this summer, and then all hell

605
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Speaker 3: could break loose and we could have a bunch of

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Speaker 3: trades and stuff should.

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