1 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:04,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff You Missed in History Class, a production 2 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 1: of I Heart Radio. Hello, and welcome to the podcast. 3 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:17,319 Speaker 1: I'm Holly Fry and I'm Tracy V. Wilson. And back 4 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:20,959 Speaker 1: in May, when COVID nineteen was still the dominant force 5 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:23,640 Speaker 1: in the news cycle, I had the chance to talk 6 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:26,439 Speaker 1: to two people from the Atlanta History Center, where their 7 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 1: entire team has been finding ways to capture information and 8 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 1: artifacts related to the pandemic to ensure that future generations 9 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 1: have access to a really robust record of this unique time. 10 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 1: We mentioned this collection project pretty briefly in one of 11 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:44,840 Speaker 1: our previous episodes, but Holly got in touch and asked 12 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:46,840 Speaker 1: if they would like to talk at more length about 13 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 1: this effort, as well as what it's like to figure 14 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:52,599 Speaker 1: out how to keep a living history museum going and 15 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 1: fulfilling its whole mission when you have to be closed 16 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 1: to the public. And so this first interview is with 17 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 1: Sheffield Hale, the President and chief executive officer of the 18 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 1: Atlanta History Center, and Sheffield and I talked about everything 19 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 1: from the History Center's living collection to how the pandemic 20 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 1: is going to impact the way workforces function in the future. 21 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 1: So here is Sheffield so Sheffield, My co host and 22 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 1: I have spoken on the show about the points where 23 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 1: each of us realized that this pandemic was happening at 24 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 1: a level that was going to directly impact our daily lives. 25 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 1: But I'm curious what that moment is like from an 26 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 1: institutional perspective, where staff and community are significant factors to 27 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:34,679 Speaker 1: think about, Like, when did you realize that this was 28 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 1: going to fundamentally change business operations for the History Center? 29 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 1: I guess it's probably the friday that we closed. I 30 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 1: finally realized it. It was sort of like a slow 31 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 1: motion role of watching this happen across the country, watching 32 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: other museums, not wanting to be the first, not wanting 33 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 1: to be the last, trying to gauge public opinion of 34 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 1: the safety of your staff first, and uh, it's it 35 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 1: reminds you a little bit of a when we see 36 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 1: its snow coming right for a snow day. Yeah, you're 37 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 1: you're trying to figure it out, and you're watching what 38 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 1: everybody else is doing, and then all of a sudden, 39 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:16,079 Speaker 1: there's a big rush and everybody gets in their car 40 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 1: and they leave and there's a traffic Well that's what 41 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:22,919 Speaker 1: happened um with in terms of people closing. Uh. Did 42 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 1: the History Center already have a disaster plan in place? 43 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 1: I know they have them in place, but one that 44 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 1: would cover a situation like a pandemic or did you 45 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 1: guys have to put a plan together to deal with 46 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 1: this kind of as it was happening. Well, we did 47 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:39,799 Speaker 1: it on on the fly in some respects. We had 48 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 1: a plan for remote working because we had a plan 49 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 1: that the campus was closed. Um, it wasn't because of 50 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 1: the pandemic, but it or it could have been because 51 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 1: of the power outages which we have a lot of 52 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 1: in Atlanta because in a lot of trees around there, 53 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:57,639 Speaker 1: or tornado or hurricane some extended period of time, or 54 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 1: there had been a you know, a loss of a building. 55 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 1: So we had you know, redundant systems for all the technology, 56 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 1: for all everything that we store, all of the data 57 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 1: and the information um that we have. We had all that. 58 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 1: So it really worked well for a pandemic because but 59 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 1: all that is is working remotely. Um. And so we 60 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:20,919 Speaker 1: but we operated on the flights. You know, we went 61 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:26,119 Speaker 1: to you're going from seventy to zero and and then 62 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 1: it's like, well we can all work from home. Now 63 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 1: what do we do? Right? Um, and how can we 64 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 1: be productive? And that was what we had to really 65 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 1: improvise at the time. And uh, and I'm really pleased 66 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 1: and proud of what came out of it. Um. What 67 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 1: are the steps involved for closing a place like the 68 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 1: History Center for an unknown period of time because there 69 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 1: are a lot of different types of collections there, there 70 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 1: are a lot of events that happened there, etcetera. What 71 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 1: preparations have to be made so that everything can be 72 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 1: taken care of when most of the staff is not 73 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 1: on site. So he had the events started, you know, 74 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 1: you know, canceling one after another. There are a few 75 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 1: you know, weddings that were in May that it took 76 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 1: a while for people to reach reality in terms of 77 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 1: you know, acceptance, you have to go through the stags 78 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 1: of grief there, um in June, but we were able 79 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 1: to work through all those and rebook most of those 80 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 1: and UM and most of everybody was understanding about that. 81 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:27,719 Speaker 1: In terms of the museum itself, We've got to keep it, 82 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 1: you know, you know, we've got to keep the security, 83 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 1: we've got to keep the humidity, air conditioning and all 84 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 1: that going on for the artifacts both in our archives 85 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 1: but also in the museum itself are historic houses that 86 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:43,039 Speaker 1: we have living collections. We have goats and sheep and 87 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:47,919 Speaker 1: perkeys and and rhodein and red chickens that all have 88 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 1: to be fed and um, and they have two stalls 89 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: have to be cleaned. Um. All that has to happen 90 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 1: during the pandemic. And then we have the other living collections, 91 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: all of the flowers and uh plants that have to 92 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 1: be tend it too. UM. So we had to work 93 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: out away for our gardeners to be socially distant when 94 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:08,839 Speaker 1: they were you know, coming back and use their own tools. 95 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:12,839 Speaker 1: And we went through this whole elaborate criteria of you know, 96 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 1: looking around the country and other botanical gardens figure out 97 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:20,039 Speaker 1: what they were doing. Were there any special things that 98 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 1: you had to do for the living collections. I'm very 99 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:25,279 Speaker 1: worried about the animals. I want to make sure they're 100 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 1: all good. Well, we made sure we had redundancy in 101 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 1: terms of who knew how to feed them and how 102 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 1: much and when, um, and that they didn't need each 103 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:37,039 Speaker 1: other and that you know, we went through all of 104 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 1: this elaborate you know, you bring your own lunch, you know, 105 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 1: bring your own tools, don't use anybody else to a 106 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 1: person can use this card or that card. These bathrooms 107 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 1: are designated for each of you. Uh, I mean, you 108 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 1: know it's we went, you know, it's because it's a 109 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 1: certain group here, certain group there. So one group got 110 00:05:56,279 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 1: infected that wouldn't impact the other group. And so we 111 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:03,119 Speaker 1: you know, we said, you know, a lot of time 112 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 1: figuring that out, and a lot of it's on the fly, 113 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 1: and we hadn't been through this. But you know, that's 114 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:11,599 Speaker 1: that's the great thing about having friends all over the 115 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 1: country and learning from them and friends across the street, 116 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 1: you know, the Lanta Botanical Garden down the road. So 117 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:21,600 Speaker 1: in my head, I'm picturing this wild spreadsheet of who 118 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: can be where women use what that I'm I may 119 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 1: be um overthinking that way. No you're not, unfortunately, UM. 120 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:33,599 Speaker 1: I hope you're preserving that wild spreadsheet as part of 121 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 1: the the historical record, actually, like I legitimately do, because 122 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:40,600 Speaker 1: that's one of those things people don't think about that 123 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 1: seem maybe mundane and not really part of a pandemic prep. 124 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 1: But that's part of how we all get through. Right. 125 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: This is the Green Party and this's the Red Party 126 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:54,600 Speaker 1: right right. What has been the hardest part of all 127 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 1: of this. You said you had planned for work from 128 00:06:56,800 --> 00:07:00,120 Speaker 1: home for very temporary closures like a power outage, but 129 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:03,559 Speaker 1: this is a temporary closure that is longer in length 130 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 1: and probably larger in scope than you guys normally have. 131 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 1: What's been the biggest challenge, Well, the biggest challenge and 132 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 1: the biggest hit long term is going to be financially, 133 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 1: you know, because if you know, we had all of 134 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 1: these events planned that UM as part of our revenue. 135 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 1: UM in the spring and the early summer is a 136 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 1: is a peak time you know for both weddings and 137 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 1: other other events, and that went away. Now they've been rescheduled, 138 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 1: but they're in another fiscal year and they may or 139 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 1: may not happen, and if they do happen, they probably 140 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 1: happen in smaller groups. UM. So we're having to budget 141 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: next year based on that. The Swan House Ball has 142 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 1: now been postponed to September. We hope we'll be able 143 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 1: to have it, then we may not, we don't know. 144 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 1: UM Our biggest event honoring you know, Lovett Russell, who's 145 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 1: just one of them great humans in Atlanta, so that 146 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 1: you know, through webs out and you know, but all 147 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 1: those things and then admissions and the school tours and 148 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 1: all those things interrupted just zero. So on the revenue side, 149 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 1: you had that. Now what we did realize is that 150 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 1: we can continue to do our mission in the interim remotely. 151 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 1: And you know, the whole mantra about do not waste 152 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 1: a crisis, um, I bought into that. I'm you know, 153 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 1: completely say Okay, if we're gonna be closed, we're gonna 154 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 1: accomplish a lot. Let's get everything that's done that's on 155 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 1: my list. Now we have no excuses. You know, we're 156 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:33,200 Speaker 1: working on a new strategic plan. We've got an interpretive plan, 157 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:38,319 Speaker 1: collections plan, collecting plan, finish them. Now is the time, 158 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 1: no more excuses. What can we do in terms of 159 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 1: our backlog of veterans oral histories, Let's put the as 160 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 1: many people as we can on transcribing those. And so 161 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 1: people from the front desk, people you know who are 162 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:56,559 Speaker 1: helping in that area. We're now transcribing oral histories and 163 00:08:56,920 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 1: another group is proofing them the transcriptions. So we're doing 164 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 1: those kinds of things. And the educators who are supposed 165 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 1: to be dealing with school kids are now producing videos 166 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 1: that we put up online for kids to be able 167 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 1: to do activities at home and we'll have those forever. 168 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 1: So a lot of that we are able to capture 169 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 1: and in the last two months of the year. And 170 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 1: and but to make sure that we we used the 171 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 1: time as effectively as possible. And I've made sure that. 172 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 1: When I first got here, one of the senior people said, 173 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:31,439 Speaker 1: of Cheffield, why are you always in a hurry? And 174 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:34,200 Speaker 1: I've learned that folks in the in the history world 175 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 1: a lot of times historically have worked on Jurassic Time. 176 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 1: I came out of you I'm a lawyer, right, so 177 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 1: I came out of you know, six minute inferments on 178 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 1: time sheets and dealing with that in every minute counted, um. 179 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:50,959 Speaker 1: And then I was at the American Cancer Society and 180 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 1: we were in a hurry to try to cure cancer. 181 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:56,680 Speaker 1: And I'm mission driven, and so you know, we're in 182 00:09:56,679 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 1: a hurry. Um. You know in in so we're in 183 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:02,679 Speaker 1: a pandemic. Great, now we have time to clear out 184 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 1: all that crap that you say you don't have time for. 185 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 1: We're gonna get it done and we're gonna have time 186 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 1: to think and it's gonna be great. And guess what 187 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 1: it's It has been very productive and the big surprising 188 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 1: thing is how busy we've all been. Yeah, you know, 189 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 1: I can't. I try to cancel some meetings and just said, well, 190 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 1: what will your reschedule it for an hour? I mean 191 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 1: they're booked all day, you know, And I understand it's 192 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 1: like damn you know, and you get off of you'll 193 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 1: get off these damn zoom meetings that you know the 194 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 1: end of the day. So where did it go? So 195 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:40,200 Speaker 1: it's been it's been really in fascinating that way. That 196 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 1: is really interesting. I mean, I I feel like we 197 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 1: have had kind of the same experience in our podcasting, 198 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 1: but a lot of that has been because we all 199 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:52,680 Speaker 1: started working from home, setting up our own little mini 200 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:55,320 Speaker 1: studios and stuff. So we're one of the few kind 201 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 1: of media outlets that didn't have to really miss a 202 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:01,959 Speaker 1: beat in terms of transition. But it's interesting to hear 203 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 1: how quickly your team made that shift and found themselves 204 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 1: perhaps busier than ever getting through all of these projects. 205 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 1: That's probably got to feel great to get that to 206 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 1: do list checked off. Yeah, I have another list. Oh, 207 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 1: Sheffield is a whip cracker. No, it's gonna feel it's 208 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 1: gonna feel great, and we are making real progress and 209 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 1: we have made some you know, we've had a few 210 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 1: minor epiphanies along the way, and it's been great. Now 211 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 1: you are, of course in charge of this large facility 212 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:37,679 Speaker 1: and all of its people and its living collections, etcetera. 213 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 1: And how do you balance out managing all of the 214 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:44,199 Speaker 1: needs and logistics of the history center with the needs 215 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 1: of yourself and your family at a time that is 216 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 1: weird and unprecedented and stressful in ways I think none 217 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 1: of us can really prepare for. You know, it has 218 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:56,439 Speaker 1: been a lot more stressful, and it manifests us off 219 00:11:56,760 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 1: in different ways. And I've anticipated and in part because 220 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:03,679 Speaker 1: the weather has been so good and everything has been 221 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 1: so beautiful. It's been so surreal. You step outside and 222 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 1: you say, this can't be. We can't be in a pandemic. 223 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 1: It's just too nice. So the whole groundhog day effect 224 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:18,959 Speaker 1: um can wear on you. You know. I'm you know, 225 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:21,200 Speaker 1: like I said, I used to ask practicing law, you know, 226 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 1: for a long time, and I'm used to highly stressful situations. 227 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 1: I'm used to, you know, ignoring my family and and 228 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 1: being a bad father. Um. But the good news is 229 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 1: is that you know, nobody's home anymore. They're all, you know, 230 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 1: in their late twenties and early thirties, and it's just myself, 231 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 1: my wife, and my dog Baxter, who's very thrilled to 232 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 1: have me at home all day long. So it's been interesting. 233 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 1: I've actually been able to see more of my children 234 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 1: because we you know, we feel comfortable, you know, having 235 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:57,840 Speaker 1: a mini quarantine pod, but they're not living under my roof. 236 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 1: Is the History Center looking back at like their historical 237 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 1: knowledge and research about pandemics, this is not the first 238 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 1: pandemic to happen to kind of help both the Center 239 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 1: and the community understand the trajectory of this one and 240 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:17,560 Speaker 1: like contextualize what we're living through right now. Well, you know, 241 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 1: the first thing that we're doing is was beginning to 242 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:24,200 Speaker 1: collect in real time, you know, with our Corona collective. 243 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 1: And part of that's reflective of the fact that you 244 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:30,960 Speaker 1: look at our collections, there's not much from pandemic and 245 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 1: flu pandemic um and the couple of reasons to that 246 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 1: one we were found in n But the main reason 247 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 1: is that people didn't keep um ordinary items from that 248 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:46,959 Speaker 1: time because it's something they got through and they wanted 249 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 1: to move on. And also it was into the First 250 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 1: World war, and you know, there were other things going 251 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 1: on at the same time, and people just wanted to 252 00:13:56,760 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 1: push through it. So I think there were a lot 253 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:01,840 Speaker 1: of you know, learnings, there's you know, there's a lot 254 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 1: there's a lot of history that's in the newspapers and 255 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:07,320 Speaker 1: other places that you can go back and read about. Um, 256 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 1: but you're not hearing as much about what happened to 257 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 1: ordinary people. That might be more instructive is to how, 258 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 1: for example, practices may change in the future as a 259 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 1: result of this. We all assume that, you know, our 260 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 1: world has changed forever and we're not going to go 261 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 1: back to certain practices. Well we don't necessarily know that, 262 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 1: but probably true in many areas. But we can't predict 263 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 1: the future. Um. All we can do is collect the 264 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 1: present and then let other people gather in twenty year, 265 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 1: thirty years and say, oh, that's when that happened, that's 266 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 1: when they finally got clean bathrooms. What has been the 267 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 1: biggest surprise in all of this for you, because there 268 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 1: have to have been things that just took you completely 269 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 1: off guard. Well, first of all, the remote working worked 270 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 1: as well as it has, or it seems to have. 271 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 1: I've always been a skeptic about that unless somebody was 272 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 1: a piece worker and or a lawyer, you could count 273 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 1: their hours that they spent doing something or you know, 274 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 1: task it was performed in an area where there's not 275 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 1: anything necessarily tangible to be delivered. It's it's hard to 276 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 1: manage remotely and feel like you're charged in a traditional way. 277 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 1: I think a lot of those prejudices are breaking down 278 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 1: and that you're seeing people are actually very effective working 279 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 1: remotely and can get a lot done. And I don't 280 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 1: think it's at the end of the office yet, because 281 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 1: I do think that there's something about being able to 282 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 1: have some camaraderie and be with other people, and you 283 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 1: can't accomplish a lot that way, and then there's a 284 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 1: lot of your identity that way. But it won't be 285 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 1: it probably won't be the same. And if you could 286 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 1: get a trigal diet like me to believe that remote 287 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 1: working works, I mean it must be really taken off. 288 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 1: It's interesting to think about how this moment will be 289 00:15:57,200 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 1: perceived in terms of workforce by future generations. Lastly, because 290 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 1: you are, you know, the head of an organization that 291 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 1: takes care to manage, you know information about the past 292 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 1: and use that, you know, as a form of education 293 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 1: and as part of community building. I wonder what you're 294 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 1: hoping we will all take away from this experience when 295 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 1: it's part of our history. You know. What we try 296 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 1: to do the Atlanta History Center is connect people history 297 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 1: and culture. And what we're trying to do is to 298 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 1: let people get some perspective connectivity their own community and 299 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 1: somebody people's other ideas, and connect them to the city 300 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 1: somehow through history. I think what this pandemic is shown 301 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 1: is that we're really all connected together in so many ways, 302 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 1: and and that we really need to understand that, you know, 303 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 1: in terms, it's it's biological, it's spatial, you know what's 304 00:16:56,360 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 1: with these you know, the virus shows how interconnected we 305 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:04,239 Speaker 1: are and how dependent we are on each other, and 306 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:06,359 Speaker 1: that we can't just you know, all drive into our 307 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 1: little cult of sacs and sit in our great room 308 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 1: and ignore each other. And we that we actually have 309 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 1: to come out onto the street and be able to 310 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 1: interact with each other positive way. That shows it we 311 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 1: respect the fact that somebody else is entitled to be 312 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:26,399 Speaker 1: there as well. It's not just about us. And I 313 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 1: think like a lot of people are going to learn 314 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 1: that from this pandemics. But you know, people have a 315 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 1: way of learning things that quickly forgetting them. This is true. 316 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:39,879 Speaker 1: Fingers crossed fingers. That will be a lesson that sticks. Sheffield, 317 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:41,880 Speaker 1: thank you so much for spending time with me today. 318 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 1: I really appreciate it. It's been a great pleasure. Thank you, um, 319 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 1: and thank you always to the History Center for all 320 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:50,920 Speaker 1: the amazing work you guys do. I love that place, 321 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 1: so I'm always always happy and it's always a treat 322 00:17:53,760 --> 00:18:04,400 Speaker 1: to talk to everybody from there. We'll be back soon. Yeah. 323 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 1: The second interview is with Michael Rose, chief Mission Officer 324 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:14,879 Speaker 1: and Executive vice President for Collections and Exhibitions. So first off, 325 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 1: will you tell us exactly what it is you do 326 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:20,439 Speaker 1: at the Atlanta History Center. I had the title of 327 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 1: Chief Mission Officer and Executive vice President for Collections and Exhibitions, 328 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 1: and what I like to tell people is I get 329 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:34,359 Speaker 1: to do the fund stuff. So as mission officer, I'm 330 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 1: involved with the mission of the organization, which is everything 331 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:44,920 Speaker 1: from historic gardens to our research center. All of our 332 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 1: collections be that photographs are documents, artifacts, three dimensional objects, 333 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:57,680 Speaker 1: living collections like the gardens and the animals at Smith 334 00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:03,880 Speaker 1: Farm and we develop the product as it were, for 335 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 1: the public, and that can be exhibitions and a wide 336 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 1: variety of other visitor experiences. But that's why I say, 337 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:14,399 Speaker 1: I get to do the fun stuff. I work with 338 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 1: very creative people, very dedicated in conducting research and developing 339 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:22,120 Speaker 1: what that experience is going to be. So right now 340 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:24,680 Speaker 1: you are heading up a really interesting project, which is 341 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:26,679 Speaker 1: why I wanted to talk to you today, called the 342 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:30,119 Speaker 1: Corona Collective. Will you tell us what that is? The 343 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:36,360 Speaker 1: mission of the institution is to collect, preserve, interpret, and 344 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 1: provide access to the stuff of history, and so much 345 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 1: of the focus of historical agencies like the Allen History 346 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 1: Centers often seen as acquiring historical quote unquote artifacts that 347 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 1: in one sense may already be understood as being old 348 00:19:55,040 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 1: by people and family photographs, business records, and effects associated 349 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 1: normally without a variety of people, places, and events, and 350 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:10,920 Speaker 1: many people see these in relationship to collecting in order 351 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 1: to document large events such as the Vietnam War, the 352 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 1: Olympic Games, or to document significant social change like the 353 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 1: civil rights movement, the suffrage movement, or quote unquote gay rights, 354 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 1: and in addition, institutions also collect the more mundane items 355 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:36,479 Speaker 1: documenting the sort of essence of the daily life. And 356 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 1: these are artifacts that are the most ephemeral, and to 357 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 1: one extent, one thinks about their importance and understanding what 358 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 1: it means to really live in a moment in time. 359 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 1: And these are the things that are normally disposed of 360 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:58,359 Speaker 1: because they're used up and and thrown away. And so 361 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:03,679 Speaker 1: looking at this particular point in time, we have a 362 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:08,159 Speaker 1: large event happened now that and I think everybody agrees, 363 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:11,360 Speaker 1: will signify a social change. We're living in a new world, right, 364 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 1: So we look at this as an opportunity to conduct 365 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:21,639 Speaker 1: contemporary collecting, and that in a sense is predicting the 366 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 1: future because instead of instead of collecting what's old, we're 367 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 1: collecting what we think the future will think is old. 368 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:36,679 Speaker 1: And that can be difficult. So you you attempt to 369 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 1: do it in a way that um, somebody in the 370 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 1: future can make a decision. You tend to overcollect in 371 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 1: order to ensure that you have the adequate material that 372 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:50,200 Speaker 1: somebody in the future in a number of years can 373 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 1: determine whether or not something actually does have cultural significance 374 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 1: in some way. At this moment in time, what we 375 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:02,719 Speaker 1: decided to do was, uh, this Corona Collective is crowd 376 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:10,200 Speaker 1: collecting and because in one aspect, we can't go out 377 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 1: ourselves as staff of the Atlanta History Center to fulfill 378 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 1: our mission to collect the cultural material of our community. 379 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 1: So we're looking upon the community to help us do that. 380 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:31,200 Speaker 1: And so we established this online it's it's at Atlanta 381 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 1: History Center dot com Corona Collective to allow the public 382 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 1: too upload material in a variety of formats onto our 383 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 1: website to help us collect the material in this moment 384 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 1: in time. And I think that the one thing is 385 00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 1: that looking on this big because mobile devices are what 386 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:05,359 Speaker 1: we live with. And what I was telling one person 387 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 1: was that isolated as we are at this moment in 388 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 1: time with the pandemic, that those mobile devices are how 389 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 1: we are communicating one to another through a variety of 390 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 1: virtual platforms to have meetings and with our our phones 391 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 1: to take photographs and to communicate with friends through a 392 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 1: variety again online platforms like Facebook and Instagram and and others. 393 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:42,879 Speaker 1: And so, as I said to somebody, this is this 394 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 1: is how I live, This is how I communicate, this 395 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:48,160 Speaker 1: is how I survive because at this moment in time, 396 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 1: it's it's that social media. It's that that social mobile 397 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 1: platform that allows us to reconnect to the world from 398 00:23:56,760 --> 00:24:01,399 Speaker 1: this isolated pandemics space that we're all right, and we 399 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:04,639 Speaker 1: can use all of that material that everybody is living 400 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 1: with to document what's happening. And so we're providing a 401 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:12,120 Speaker 1: platform on our website for people to upload this material 402 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:15,920 Speaker 1: to help us document, like I said, this moment in 403 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:20,400 Speaker 1: times pandemic. And so that's what the Corona Collective is. 404 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:26,359 Speaker 1: It's crowd collecting for contemporary collecting um in order to 405 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:29,440 Speaker 1: document life as it is right now. And that includes 406 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 1: quote unquote major things low that you would think of, 407 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 1: such as the restrictions by state and local governments and 408 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 1: things like that. But it's also is that what I 409 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 1: referred to is that mundane documentation of our daily lives. 410 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:48,919 Speaker 1: It's um. Well, let me just say that this is 411 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:53,119 Speaker 1: this is the online component. Is is only part of 412 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 1: the initiative because in addition to that, the staff is 413 00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:00,360 Speaker 1: still going out on their own social dis and sing 414 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 1: and wearing masks to document this with their own level 415 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:08,119 Speaker 1: devices and in other ways and collecting artifacts that we 416 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:10,439 Speaker 1: know that we want to keep. So we're keeping a 417 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 1: list of those artifacts that we can collect now that 418 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 1: we can collect after the restrictions are lifted and we're 419 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 1: able to get out again. And um, we're also asking 420 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:32,200 Speaker 1: certain individuals in different professions or fields to document there 421 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 1: experiences as well. Um, my niece is a nurse in 422 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 1: a hospital. I have a nephew who is a firefighter. 423 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 1: So we're talking to first responders and asking them to 424 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:50,920 Speaker 1: specifically document their experiences. We have one young man who 425 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:54,399 Speaker 1: was an intern at the Atlanta History Center and he 426 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:57,680 Speaker 1: had been called up to the National Guard and assigned 427 00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 1: to Charlotte to help locate possible sites in Charlotte for 428 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:08,639 Speaker 1: temporary hospitals. So he is documenting his experience as well. 429 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 1: But in this collecting getting getting back to the mount, 430 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 1: the mundane part. I joke with someone about, you know, 431 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 1: at some point there will be an exhibition about all 432 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 1: of this, and I can, I can, I can envision 433 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:29,879 Speaker 1: in this this gallery space at the Atlanta History Center, 434 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 1: the display case with the the bonnet, the glass bonnet 435 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 1: on top of it, and inside with the light shining 436 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 1: at from above is a roll of toilet paper because 437 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 1: that is is one of that is one of the 438 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:54,200 Speaker 1: symbolic items of this A bottle of hand sanitizers, homemade masks. Uh, 439 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:56,440 Speaker 1: these are the sorts of things that we're thinking about 440 00:26:56,480 --> 00:27:00,439 Speaker 1: collecting because they are so symbolic of what we're all 441 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:04,400 Speaker 1: living with right now. Oh, that sounds actually kind of amazing. 442 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:12,199 Speaker 1: I'm picturing someone from the future stumbling into that section 443 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:15,639 Speaker 1: of a display and just being like, toilet paper, what 444 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 1: is this about? Um? But boy, hasn't been an important 445 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 1: part of this experience for a lot of people. Um. 446 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:23,919 Speaker 1: And you're right, it is a symbol of all of 447 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 1: this that we don't necessarily think of in that way. 448 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:29,880 Speaker 1: Everyone's concerned about having it, but we really don't think 449 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 1: about how that is going to be a touchstone of 450 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:37,399 Speaker 1: the descriptors of this many many years from now. You 451 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 1: mentioned that that your staff is going out and you know, 452 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 1: practicing safe safe practices, but collecting artifacts. What kind of 453 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 1: artifacts are they collecting? Well, they are they are actually 454 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:52,919 Speaker 1: collecting the toilet paper and the hand sanitizers. You know, 455 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:58,639 Speaker 1: we're lucky in Atlanta to have a series of distilleries, 456 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 1: and so I don't know if you're aware of it, 457 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 1: some of the distilleries in town have turned to making 458 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:11,640 Speaker 1: hand sanitizers from the alcohol that they have at their 459 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:16,159 Speaker 1: at their disposal and so they're they're putting the that 460 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 1: hand sanitizing that they're creating intto hump bottles, and they're 461 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:26,119 Speaker 1: branding them with their distillery name. And so we're like, 462 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 1: we're collecting that sort of that sort of artifact. And 463 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 1: I had I do have one staff member. She didn't 464 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:35,960 Speaker 1: have to leave her house to collect this because she 465 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 1: had in her house and she has promised to donate 466 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 1: the teddy bears that she placed in her window. That 467 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 1: are you aware of that? Yeah, that that placing teddy 468 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 1: bears because that activity in neighborhoods is something that kids 469 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 1: can get out of the house and go around and 470 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:56,719 Speaker 1: it becomes a hunt to find the teddy bears. Right, 471 00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 1: other people have been putting you know, homemade paper hearts 472 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 1: in their windows and things like that. So that's that's 473 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 1: the sort of thing that at this point in time 474 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 1: we're looking to collect. In addition to creating a larger 475 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 1: list of what we might be looking for, is as 476 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 1: well then we can't access at this point in time. Now. 477 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 1: You also mentioned um specifically like that you're documenting our 478 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 1: our local and state uh you know, government advisories, etcetera. 479 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 1: I know there are other institutions doing similar projects. Has 480 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 1: there been any discussion with the Atlanta History Center with 481 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 1: other institutions about sharing this kind of information or creating 482 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,440 Speaker 1: a more massive collective, or do you think there will 483 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 1: be at some point, you know, some cooperative effort to 484 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 1: combine these things to make a fuller picture of life 485 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:59,280 Speaker 1: in the US. We're certainly aware of the larger effort 486 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 1: by other institutions to also document the coronavirus pandemic, and 487 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 1: those are all being done in a variety of ways. 488 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:16,600 Speaker 1: I'm aware of The Historic New Orleans Collection is using 489 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 1: an automated system to collect tweets, and so they have 490 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 1: advised people to use a use a particular hashtag so 491 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 1: that they it would be easier for their system to 492 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 1: identify and collect those for their system. Other institutions are 493 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 1: asking people to simply um, send them a an email 494 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 1: and let them know what they have and and let 495 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 1: the staff contact them again. UM. The Indiana Historical Society 496 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,960 Speaker 1: is doing something very similar to what we're doing and 497 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 1: allowing the public to upload a variety of formats for 498 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 1: digital content. UM. We've at this point in time, we've 499 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 1: received about close to a hundred and fifty individual donations 500 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 1: and over four hundred digital files, and that can be 501 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 1: everything from UM, a written document that is uploaded, and 502 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 1: that can be a description from somebody who has who 503 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 1: has suffered from the virus or someone who has caring 504 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 1: for somebody who is suffering from the virus. Two poetry 505 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 1: and other formats and videos UM and photographs. So it's 506 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 1: been a wide variety of content that that we have 507 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 1: been receiving. There's not an essential coordinated effort between institutions. 508 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 1: I don't think at this particular point in time that 509 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 1: any of us are competing one against another. We we 510 00:31:56,480 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 1: do try to talk to other institutions in the LA 511 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 1: area to ensure sometimes that if we're collecting a particular 512 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 1: subject area or if you think of a community or neighborhood, 513 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 1: that we're not competing in some way. But I don't 514 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:15,240 Speaker 1: think at this particular point in time with with this 515 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 1: subject matter, with with the Corona, that we're competing in 516 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 1: any way. But I think that in the future, if 517 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 1: there's ever an effort to for us, for US or 518 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 1: other institutions to have programming, certainly with exhibitions UM and 519 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 1: with with developing other product as I referred to it 520 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 1: for the visitor experience. There's always the opportunity to find 521 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 1: out what somebody else has and to borrow um that 522 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:50,720 Speaker 1: for an exhibition or access photographs or you know, textual 523 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 1: content or something like that to to add it to 524 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 1: whatever we're doing. Very cool. What is going to happen 525 00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 1: to all of these materials once they're admitted? The Corona 526 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 1: Collective on our website is as I as I mentioned, 527 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 1: is one part of a larger initiative to document the 528 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:15,920 Speaker 1: Corona virus pandemic. The material that's supplied online by the 529 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:20,920 Speaker 1: public is uploaded, and there's a we have to go 530 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:24,720 Speaker 1: through the technical aspects. There's a release form that everybody 531 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:29,440 Speaker 1: has to complete, and anyone under a team has to 532 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 1: have permission signed by by parents. Anything that's uploaded becomes 533 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 1: the property of the Atlanta History Center allow us to use, 534 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:45,120 Speaker 1: and we don't. We don't guarantee to to use or 535 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:49,480 Speaker 1: save absolutely everything, but it does become part of the 536 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:54,880 Speaker 1: collection of the Atlanta History Center, and in two ways, 537 00:33:55,560 --> 00:34:00,320 Speaker 1: we preserve that for our own use and exit vision 538 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:07,040 Speaker 1: or online content as well as as part of our 539 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:11,360 Speaker 1: research collection. Also making that available to the public to 540 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:15,719 Speaker 1: be able to access to use for research or other 541 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:19,440 Speaker 1: methods so that if somebody was using if somebody was 542 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 1: creating a documentary about the pandemic and they were looking 543 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:26,360 Speaker 1: at Atlanta, they could come to the Atlanta History Center, 544 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,440 Speaker 1: they could review these materials, and they could possibly use 545 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,319 Speaker 1: any of this content in creating a documentary. And I 546 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:35,160 Speaker 1: just I used that It's just one example of how 547 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:39,240 Speaker 1: the public I might be able to access this material 548 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:43,400 Speaker 1: and use it themselves working with the Atlanta History Center 549 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,799 Speaker 1: in some format, in addition to the History Center using 550 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:51,360 Speaker 1: it as as the institution. So I have to ask, 551 00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:54,320 Speaker 1: do you have a favorite item that has been submitted 552 00:34:54,360 --> 00:35:00,759 Speaker 1: so far? That's um, that's the that's the hard one, 553 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:07,319 Speaker 1: because they're they're all great. Um. Just getting the submissions 554 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:11,360 Speaker 1: has been I have been has been rewarding that the 555 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:15,920 Speaker 1: people are doing this, and frankly, we've been very very 556 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:20,640 Speaker 1: pleased with the response that this has this has received. 557 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:23,680 Speaker 1: One thing that we haven't received yet is that we 558 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:27,520 Speaker 1: are working with a local school and the students have 559 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:33,040 Speaker 1: been assigned a project to create their own digital journals 560 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:36,160 Speaker 1: to be able to supply. We haven't received those yet, 561 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:41,120 Speaker 1: but I think up to sixties students have been tasked 562 00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:44,040 Speaker 1: with with doing this. I look forward to saying that. 563 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 1: I think that at this point in time, probably the 564 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:50,800 Speaker 1: thing that was most moving for me was one of 565 00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:55,520 Speaker 1: the very earliest donations that we received, and that was 566 00:35:55,920 --> 00:36:02,320 Speaker 1: simply the story of a woman who had the virus 567 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:08,120 Speaker 1: and and she just she discussed the difficulty she had 568 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:16,719 Speaker 1: and obtaining medical assistance in getting a test to find 569 00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:20,200 Speaker 1: out if she actually had the virus, and then and 570 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:23,759 Speaker 1: then her description of suffering through it and she recovered 571 00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:30,040 Speaker 1: and supplied this to us. It's it's a moving document 572 00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:36,920 Speaker 1: to read and to understand the loneliness um of this. 573 00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:41,680 Speaker 1: And that's another aspect that my niece, who I mentioned 574 00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:46,320 Speaker 1: earlier is a nurse, and her discussion of the fact 575 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:51,440 Speaker 1: that people are dying alone and she has to be 576 00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:54,560 Speaker 1: there and help those people because family and friends can't 577 00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:59,320 Speaker 1: be there with them in this pandemic, and how difficult 578 00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:03,920 Speaker 1: that is for people to suffer through. It's interesting because 579 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,760 Speaker 1: I wonder if all of these people who contribute, surely 580 00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:08,880 Speaker 1: they have some sense of it, but if they really 581 00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:14,040 Speaker 1: realize how incredibly important and meaningful all of this is 582 00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:16,759 Speaker 1: going to be down the road when these are really 583 00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:20,279 Speaker 1: like the truest words you could speak are those of 584 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:24,600 Speaker 1: someone experiencing a moment. It's fascinating to me and I 585 00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:27,440 Speaker 1: hope they understand the gravity of just I hope, I 586 00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:30,680 Speaker 1: hope they do. UM. The fact that they are taking 587 00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:35,799 Speaker 1: that effort to make this documentation to help us with 588 00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:40,200 Speaker 1: this is meaningful. I think that one aspect again is 589 00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:42,840 Speaker 1: that the fact that these are the voices of people 590 00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:46,560 Speaker 1: who are living at this moment in time. And so 591 00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:50,560 Speaker 1: many people think of history as being name states and places, 592 00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:56,400 Speaker 1: and that's um and it's not about memorizing those facts. 593 00:37:56,719 --> 00:38:00,440 Speaker 1: It's about understanding how people lived, and it's and the 594 00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:06,960 Speaker 1: relevance of that to our lives today. Having more voices 595 00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:13,759 Speaker 1: that can represent that experience just adds to the complexity 596 00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:18,279 Speaker 1: and understanding of history. And so, yes, this will be 597 00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:20,719 Speaker 1: in the past, and somebody in the future will be 598 00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,000 Speaker 1: making a decision about what to keep or not to 599 00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:28,320 Speaker 1: keep from our contemporary collecting, but they'll have a wealth 600 00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:31,760 Speaker 1: of material to choose from from a wide variety of people, 601 00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:36,680 Speaker 1: and I think that's a very important aspect. So last question, 602 00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:42,319 Speaker 1: do you stay pretty objective about it or do you 603 00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,960 Speaker 1: have a hope of how all of this will be 604 00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:48,719 Speaker 1: seen in a hundred years A hundred and fifty years, etcetera. 605 00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:50,560 Speaker 1: Do you think about the legacy of the work you're 606 00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:56,160 Speaker 1: doing right now or is that too heavy? I M 607 00:38:56,160 --> 00:39:02,959 Speaker 1: that's a hard one. That's sorry, okay, um. I think 608 00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:05,920 Speaker 1: I think about in one aspect. I think I think 609 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:13,000 Speaker 1: about this as it's my job, and so I do it. 610 00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:17,279 Speaker 1: It's but that's not to say that it becomes a 611 00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:25,799 Speaker 1: a hump drum, daily exertion or or something. Because what 612 00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:30,120 Speaker 1: we do, we understand the people that I've worked with 613 00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:35,879 Speaker 1: that it's a mission and it's cause. And I think 614 00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:42,920 Speaker 1: that despite the day today aspects of a of a job, 615 00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:45,759 Speaker 1: we know that the job we're doing is rewarding and 616 00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:48,319 Speaker 1: we know that it serves a purpose. I let me 617 00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:52,520 Speaker 1: give one example, and that's from our Veterans History Project, 618 00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:56,600 Speaker 1: which is an ongoing oral history project that we have 619 00:39:56,920 --> 00:40:04,880 Speaker 1: in documenting the experience of veterans in a variety of conflicts, 620 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:08,520 Speaker 1: and obviously one of those is World War Two. And 621 00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:11,960 Speaker 1: at this point in time, so many of the veterans 622 00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:16,600 Speaker 1: from World War Two are dying, and so we are 623 00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:20,600 Speaker 1: we're working diligently at this point in time to document 624 00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:24,640 Speaker 1: as many as we can. We have had a few 625 00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:33,239 Speaker 1: experiences recently in which some veterans who had been interviewed 626 00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:38,359 Speaker 1: in the last few years had passed away, and we 627 00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:45,880 Speaker 1: have received communication from family members, children, grandchildren who then 628 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:51,480 Speaker 1: came across the recordings because the veterans get a copy 629 00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:56,200 Speaker 1: of their their interview, and we get that response from 630 00:40:56,239 --> 00:41:01,239 Speaker 1: from family members about how much that means to have 631 00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:08,680 Speaker 1: that voice telling that story, and so um we work 632 00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,640 Speaker 1: at the stage today, but but we understand the importance 633 00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:15,319 Speaker 1: of it, and I can tell you it's it's a 634 00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:19,640 Speaker 1: very rewarding job that we did. So one day people 635 00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:22,640 Speaker 1: will be talking about the remaining people who lived through 636 00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:27,040 Speaker 1: this moment in time, and we'll have this amazing collective 637 00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:30,600 Speaker 1: that you guys have put together. So thank you for that. Well, 638 00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:33,920 Speaker 1: thank you, Michael. Thank you so much for sitting with 639 00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:36,160 Speaker 1: me today and being so patient with all of our 640 00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:39,919 Speaker 1: technical issues and just being a delight in sharing your 641 00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:43,279 Speaker 1: knowledge with us. It's really important, so I appreciate it. 642 00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:47,560 Speaker 1: Thank you. One of the really unique aspects of this 643 00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:51,160 Speaker 1: set of interviews is how both Sheffield and Michael spoke 644 00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:53,640 Speaker 1: about the social change that was likely to come from 645 00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:56,680 Speaker 1: living through the pandemic. But of course, little did any 646 00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:59,360 Speaker 1: of us know when we were having these talks that 647 00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:03,000 Speaker 1: just we away was an entirely different and very profound 648 00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:06,760 Speaker 1: moment of potential for social change. So it is almost 649 00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:09,720 Speaker 1: a historically interesting thing in terms of looking at recent 650 00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:13,920 Speaker 1: history because we see how quickly our mindset shifted from 651 00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:17,040 Speaker 1: focusing on this one thing to a whole other set 652 00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:20,600 Speaker 1: of things that now are compounding together. So thanks again 653 00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:23,560 Speaker 1: to the Atlanta History Center and to Sheffield and Michael 654 00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:27,439 Speaker 1: for taking the time with Holly, and Howard Posner, who's 655 00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:30,080 Speaker 1: their manager of media relations, who helped Holly get these 656 00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:34,080 Speaker 1: talks arranged and scheduled. You can check out what's happening 657 00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:37,720 Speaker 1: currently at the Atlanta History Center at Atlanta History Center 658 00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:41,960 Speaker 1: dot com, and you can participate in their crowdsourced Corona 659 00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:47,280 Speaker 1: Collective by visiting Atlanta History Center dot com slash research 660 00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:52,000 Speaker 1: slash Corona dash Collective. And the History Center has also 661 00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:56,160 Speaker 1: been doing some really good virtual programming throughout the shutdown. 662 00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:58,560 Speaker 1: If you are listening to this episode on the day 663 00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:01,720 Speaker 1: it comes out, which is June five, there is actually 664 00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:05,200 Speaker 1: a virtual talk scheduled tonight with Stacy Abrams that is 665 00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:07,600 Speaker 1: sure to be really amazing. Uh. If you want to 666 00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:09,520 Speaker 1: get in on that go to their page and search 667 00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:11,279 Speaker 1: for it. I think it's on their front page right now. 668 00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:13,640 Speaker 1: You do have to make an online purchase of her 669 00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:15,759 Speaker 1: new book to get access to that event. That's kind 670 00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:18,239 Speaker 1: of like what your ticket becomes. Uh, and you end 671 00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:20,000 Speaker 1: up getting assigned a book I think in the mail. 672 00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:23,160 Speaker 1: But check that out for more details. And again, I 673 00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:26,680 Speaker 1: super want to thank Howard and Sheffield and Michael all 674 00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:31,840 Speaker 1: for helping us put together this picture. It's UM. I 675 00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:34,680 Speaker 1: am very excited at the prospect of their exhibit with 676 00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:37,680 Speaker 1: a roll of toilet paper front and center with a 677 00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:42,080 Speaker 1: spotlight on it that Michael talked about. UM. I also 678 00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:45,720 Speaker 1: have listener mail which is related UH. And this listener 679 00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:49,680 Speaker 1: didn't really want me to necessarily mention their name. They 680 00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:51,480 Speaker 1: said that they were shy, but they wanted to bring 681 00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:54,120 Speaker 1: to our attention a cool project that is going on. 682 00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:58,200 Speaker 1: I will read their email in part and hopefully that 683 00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:01,359 Speaker 1: will be cool. Uh and they will mind. UH. They're 684 00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:03,600 Speaker 1: write longtime listener, first time writer. Thank you so much 685 00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:06,600 Speaker 1: for keeping us informed and entertained during this challenging time. 686 00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:08,960 Speaker 1: I was really excited to hear you discuss the Corona 687 00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:12,640 Speaker 1: Collective project at the Atlanta History Center because there is 688 00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:17,160 Speaker 1: a similar COVID nineteen journaling project at the Wisconsin Historical Society, 689 00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:22,439 Speaker 1: which this person has some connections to, and UH, they write, 690 00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:25,120 Speaker 1: I know that museums and historical societies around the world 691 00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:27,759 Speaker 1: how similar projects in the work right now, and I 692 00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:30,759 Speaker 1: feel so proud and inspired by how historians archivists at 693 00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:33,400 Speaker 1: all are using their resources to keep people engaged and 694 00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:36,680 Speaker 1: helped document history as it happens. So there's more to 695 00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:38,600 Speaker 1: this letter, but as I said, they didn't want to 696 00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:41,759 Speaker 1: um really really be called out for it. But I 697 00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:45,240 Speaker 1: want to make sure that anyone who is listening checks 698 00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:49,279 Speaker 1: out Wisconsin History dot org. UH if you want to 699 00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:52,319 Speaker 1: go to their COVID nineteen Big History landing page that 700 00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:57,960 Speaker 1: is Wisconsin History dot org slash Big History is happening, UH, 701 00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:00,640 Speaker 1: and then you can also search around on their site 702 00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:02,880 Speaker 1: because they also have a journal project that's going on 703 00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:06,040 Speaker 1: as well as a poster project that's going on that 704 00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:09,960 Speaker 1: you can check out. And it's really really cool. 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