1 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Kate Flannery and I played Meredith Palmer on 2 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:19,919 Speaker 1: the Office. Hello everyone, and welcome to the Office. Deep 3 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:24,439 Speaker 1: dive with me. That's right, your host Brian Baumgartner. On 4 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 1: today's show, we have the incredible Kate Flannery. As you 5 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:35,240 Speaker 1: just heard now. I have always felt a special bond 6 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 1: with Kate because I think more than anyone else in 7 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:45,239 Speaker 1: the cast, Kate and I we put our bodies on 8 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 1: the line for the show. I mean just in terms 9 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 1: of pure physical comedy and like shameless personal humiliation. I 10 00:00:55,520 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 1: think Kate and I deserve medals for bravery and and 11 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 1: maybe Kate most of all, she was just completely fearless 12 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 1: and she was always up for anything she was asked 13 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 1: to do. In fact, the last time I saw Kate 14 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 1: before we sat down for this conversation, I went to 15 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 1: see Kate uh in a taping for Dancing with the 16 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 1: Stars that Kate was a contestant on, and she asked 17 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:30,039 Speaker 1: me to come see her perform, and I went. And 18 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 1: let me be honest, it's kind of a weird experience. 19 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 1: You're in this giant warehouse, there are assistants moving around everywhere, 20 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:42,759 Speaker 1: There's applause signs telling you when to laugh, and went 21 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 1: to clap, and went to stand and went to sit 22 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 1: and and then all of a sudden, the music starts 23 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 1: and Kate literally descends from the ceiling because she's doing 24 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: this Mary Poppins number. She's Mary Poppins. And I see 25 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 1: her descending and I immediately start crying. I'm I am 26 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 1: overcome with emotion because the fearlessness, and let's be honest, 27 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 1: I'm not We're not spring chickens. And she had total 28 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 1: commitment and she was dancing her heart out. But that's 29 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 1: Kate anyway. I did not cry in this interview, but 30 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:29,360 Speaker 1: we did talk about how Kate had to flash her 31 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 1: boobs a lot on the show, so that was the 32 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 1: thing we didn't We didn't cry, but we talked about boobs. 33 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: How's that for a setup? Without any more blabbering from me, 34 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:45,119 Speaker 1: here is the woman who bared it all for your entertainment, 35 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:54,920 Speaker 1: Kate Flannery. Bubble and Squeak. I love it, Bubble and 36 00:02:54,960 --> 00:03:15,080 Speaker 1: squeak on Bubble and Squeaker cooking ever from the nut, Well, 37 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 1: well are good? How are you good? How's it going? 38 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, awesome? They becked in a box. They 39 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 1: have been locked in a box. This is not our 40 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 1: regular studio. Yes, this I thought was construction, but apparently 41 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 1: it's a folly. Are you gonna make folly sounds? I'm 42 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 1: going to just start running on the grass. You can 43 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 1: recreate the fire drill step right exactly. Um. You can 44 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 1: throw your coat on the thing unless you're cold. What's 45 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 1: up to you? Is she fine? Here on the mic? 46 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 1: Can I talk about people behind their back on this? 47 00:03:55,520 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 1: You can say whatever you want. UM, So now I 48 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 1: know some of this, but two thousand four, yes, what? Well? 49 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 1: First of all, what was your training exactly? Like? What 50 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: were you doing work wise before the office? Well? He 51 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 1: was in Chicago. Right after college. I studied theater UH 52 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 1: in Philadelphia and in Virginia for a couple of years, 53 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 1: and then I UM graduated from the University AUNTS in 54 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 1: phillip And then my aunt sent me a ticket to 55 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 1: check out Chicago and Second City because she thought it 56 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 1: would be a good fit. So I studied a Second 57 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:29,160 Speaker 1: city and then I got hired by the touring company, 58 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:32,280 Speaker 1: so I knew Steve. Steve was in one of the 59 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 1: resident companies when I was touring UM. But then I 60 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:38,159 Speaker 1: moved to New York. I did the year long tour 61 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:40,280 Speaker 1: of the real life Brady Bunch a few years later, 62 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:42,719 Speaker 1: and then moved to New York for six months, and 63 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:45,279 Speaker 1: then got asked to do the show Valley the Dolls 64 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 1: in l a uh. And then I was here for 65 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:50,040 Speaker 1: about a year and then came close to a few 66 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 1: different shows. I was like up for the Data Carvey Show, 67 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 1: which obviously Steve, Steve Coral and Steve Colbert got I 68 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:58,599 Speaker 1: tested for it to get came close, um, and then um, 69 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:00,840 Speaker 1: the show I was doing when off Broadway. So I 70 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:02,040 Speaker 1: went to New York. So I was in New York 71 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 1: for three years. Okay, I'm old five years. So you 72 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:10,159 Speaker 1: were in Chicago in and around Second City for five years, 73 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 1: then went back to New York, then l a then 74 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 1: back to New York for three years. And then when 75 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 1: did you come back to l a uh. I moved 76 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:21,479 Speaker 1: back because I got a new manager, and I was 77 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: basically like waiting tables, and then started to do my 78 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 1: comedy act, the Lampshades, and was, you know, just like 79 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 1: doing some guest star stuff. I did Bernie Mac. I 80 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 1: guess Creed was in the same episode that I did 81 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 1: a Bernie Mack. Yeah, he didn't have any lines he 82 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 1: was just like a doctor in the background or something. 83 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 1: I was so funny. And then um, I booked a 84 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 1: recurring gig on Boomtown and my second episode we were 85 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 1: about to shoot and they said that the show got canceled. 86 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:47,600 Speaker 1: So that was that, and then I was I had 87 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 1: auditioned for the pilot of the Office. I was up 88 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 1: for the part of Jan. I read for the part 89 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:53,599 Speaker 1: of Jan, did not get it. Obviously they want a 90 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 1: completely different way. But Allison Jones said that I think 91 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:58,719 Speaker 1: the show was good for you, which was awesome. And 92 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 1: then I just remember like doing my comedy act like Lampshades, 93 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 1: that we were We were supposed to do so many 94 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 1: things and like kind of fell through. We were supposed 95 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 1: to be on Mad TV for four episodes, and I'm 96 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 1: like they canceled when it was a whole lot of 97 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 1: almost And then I remember getting a call that they 98 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 1: were trying to fill a spot after they shot the 99 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 1: pilot in August. You guys shot in February, and in 100 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:22,480 Speaker 1: August I got the call to go in and read 101 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:24,480 Speaker 1: for Allison Jones. And then by the time I got 102 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 1: home from that I found out I got the job. 103 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 1: Because I didn't have a cell phone side away for 104 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:30,720 Speaker 1: my landline to get to message. Okay, so wait, so 105 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 1: you read for jan I do not know? Yeah, yeah 106 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:36,480 Speaker 1: I did, but there would be too much sexual chemistry 107 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 1: between me and Steve if I got that part. She 108 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 1: said she thought she still thought it would be a 109 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:43,599 Speaker 1: good like I love. That's why I love about Allison. 110 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 1: It's like she remembers things. So I somehow registered, you know, 111 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:50,159 Speaker 1: And I remember going to the next audition for what 112 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 1: became Meredith. I don't she was called Meredith at the audition, 113 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 1: but I remember they said no makeup, and like, really, 114 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:57,599 Speaker 1: no makeup. Usually when they say no makeup, it's like 115 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 1: lip gloss and semescara. And also was like really no, no, no, no, 116 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 1: take it off, take it off, take off the lashes. No. 117 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 1: I wasn't very much but yeah interesting. Yeah, so then 118 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 1: you so you came back and at the time, you're 119 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 1: do you remember what the what the description was of 120 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 1: the character just said she was lactose, intolerant, divorced and 121 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 1: had his directed me go light chill, right, Yeah, and 122 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 1: you knew who? Did you know? I knew Angela because 123 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 1: we were in an improv group in All chickenprov group 124 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 1: called Bitch Planet in two thousand in l A. And 125 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 1: I knew Steve because I knew him from from Second 126 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 1: City and also he did the first few months of 127 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 1: the Really Brady Bunch. He was the first Greg Brady 128 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 1: when we used to do that crazy show. Yeah, yeah, crazy, 129 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 1: but there was so much sexual chemistry between me and 130 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 1: see what we could. I'm just kidding, sorry, I mean 131 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 1: he you definitely showed your boobs to him a lot. Yeah. 132 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 1: The first time we shot that Christmas episode, he said, 133 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 1: I'm not looking at them, I'm just gonna stay at 134 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 1: your clavical. I was like, I think, I mean, should 135 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 1: I be insulted by? Might should I feel? But I 136 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 1: don't know what to do. He was such a gentleman 137 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 1: though really I knew he was my best interest at 138 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 1: heart to the end. I um. I have said many 139 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 1: times in terms of just pure comedy and the direction 140 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 1: with McDougall and like everything, that moment with you at 141 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 1: the end might be one of my favorite moments, Oh 142 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 1: my god of no of the of the whole series, 143 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 1: because he's so well directed to and it's so like 144 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:39,199 Speaker 1: just the way that it played. It was such a subtle, 145 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 1: unexpected crazy, so unexpected and you have that like that 146 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 1: like gas band of like oh my gosh. And then 147 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:51,959 Speaker 1: him just the look on his face and picking up 148 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 1: that camera and taking a picture just is so perfect. 149 00:08:57,360 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 1: And even the moment after we were like he's you know, 150 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:02,560 Speaker 1: he's not going to do anything, Like he's like he's done. 151 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 1: That was it. That's all he wanted was a picture, 152 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 1: which is so fantastic because I feel like so many 153 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 1: other actors would have played that differently, and Steve had 154 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 1: such economy and such brilliant I I mean, I'm sure 155 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 1: you remember this, but I feel like every every you 156 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 1: never knew exactly what he was going to do, and 157 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 1: he could do five different, six different things in different takes, 158 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 1: like completely different with the same words, with the same dialect, 159 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 1: and just be like, make these really amazing, subtle, strong choices, 160 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 1: crazy great. I felt like I was watching someone who thought, 161 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 1: I have to make the people in here laugh, Like 162 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 1: that's what I'm gonna do. And if we rehearse it 163 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 1: and we do this and we do that, like then 164 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:45,200 Speaker 1: everyone's gonna expect exactly. Yes, so great at that. Yeah, 165 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 1: that's that's so well put. Yeah, he definitely had a plan. 166 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 1: He definitely had many many ideas all the time. Oh 167 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 1: my god, I'm such a deadbeat as an actor when 168 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 1: I think. But I think he's really one of those 169 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:01,440 Speaker 1: rare gems. And it's just shocking that he didn't want 170 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:06,200 Speaker 1: an Emmy for that role. Yeah, it's a travesty, but 171 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 1: he's he's not a politician, he's never been, never been so, 172 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:15,559 Speaker 1: and I think some of its politics, which is um, 173 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 1: so you come back in and you are now reading 174 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:25,560 Speaker 1: for Meredith or unnamed misdirected me character and um, did 175 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:27,679 Speaker 1: they show you the pilot? Did you see the pilot? 176 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 1: I saw the pilot later I saw the pilot. Uh yeah, 177 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 1: after you were cast. Yes, okay, did you have any 178 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 1: specific thoughts about it? Well? I was nervous that it 179 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 1: was exactly like the British pilot. I think everybody was nervous. 180 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 1: But I still thought it was funny, and I thought 181 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 1: what they added that was American was really funny. What's 182 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 1: a what's you know? And I thought everyone was much 183 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:52,559 Speaker 1: more understandable than the British fruition. I'm one of those 184 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 1: people that watch Is the British Office with subtitles because 185 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:57,719 Speaker 1: I want to get it all. Is that terrible? No? 186 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 1: It's not terrible. When I walked through life with you, 187 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 1: I need subtitles too, But you're just like Philly, Pennsylvania. 188 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:13,719 Speaker 1: I hard to understand. Sorry. Um, so I heard that 189 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 1: Greg made a conscious decision to stay as close to 190 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 1: the British pilot because he thought if he did, the 191 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 1: network couldn't give no. Wow, brilliant, brilliant. It makes so 192 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:30,960 Speaker 1: much sense. And I remember my brother Chris Hasten, who 193 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 1: I met on the show. He's a still photographer for NBC. 194 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 1: He was shooting the pilot gallery and he was told, 195 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 1: if anybody looks at the camera except for Steve, that's it. 196 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 1: We're done. Like Greg really wanted to look documentary, and 197 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 1: and Chris said there were so many specific instructions because 198 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 1: Greg was so uh protective of making sure to get 199 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 1: this absolutely rights. Thank god. Interesting. Yeah, so even in 200 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 1: the PR shoot, Chris the photographer was directed, yes, which 201 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:06,960 Speaker 1: is never the case, I mean very rarely. There might 202 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:09,959 Speaker 1: be a note or two, but nothing, nothing that's intense. 203 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 1: And Greg was like, just you know, um, very stressed, 204 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 1: stressed out about it. He just wanted to be absolutely right. 205 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 1: Thank goodness. Do you feel like, um, you had any 206 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 1: specific hurdles or anything you had to overcome specifically because 207 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:32,080 Speaker 1: you weren't on the pilot. Well, I wasn't sure if 208 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:33,959 Speaker 1: I was coming back every week. I wasn't sure. I 209 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:35,839 Speaker 1: remember talking to Phillis about it. She goes, I think 210 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 1: you might. I'm like, okay, because I definitely felt like 211 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 1: I was getting stories, um because I I'm allowed to 212 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 1: say that I replaced somebody from the pilot. So I 213 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:48,679 Speaker 1: was getting stories that like, you know, they're going to 214 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 1: see you know, if if this is actually even a place, 215 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 1: like maybe it's you know, maybe this character won't anything exists. 216 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 1: I don't even know. So there was pressure definitely, but 217 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:58,839 Speaker 1: you know, I was like, okay, we'll see I mean, 218 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:01,679 Speaker 1: everybody's nice. And they told I don't remember this. They 219 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:05,560 Speaker 1: told us to bring paperwork, which so the first season 220 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 1: we literally sat at our desks because they wanted us 221 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:12,080 Speaker 1: to really be busy doing real what looked like real 222 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:15,200 Speaker 1: office work. I thought that was so brilliant. Yeah. Do 223 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 1: you think that that did anything to help create the ensemble? 224 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 1: I do, because I feel like everyone had a focus immediately. 225 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 1: You weren't like looking for someone to throw you the ball, 226 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 1: and if you did get the ball, you were busy 227 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 1: doing your work, like that's what people doing a documentary. 228 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:35,440 Speaker 1: I mean, it's so it must be so uncomfortable for 229 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 1: somebody in a regular scrant In Pennsylvania office to have 230 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 1: a camera around, Like that's not a comfort zone. There's 231 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 1: nothing comfortable about that. So I love that that was 232 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 1: part of the mix. And then we we had this 233 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 1: weird medical paperwork that was like they bought, the prop 234 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 1: department bought. So I remember creating these like weird little 235 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 1: patterns of stapling things and like, and I remember Jenna 236 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 1: and I had a whole dance where we would have 237 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:00,319 Speaker 1: these weird clearance papers that we would sign for each other. 238 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 1: It was so bizarre, but it was fantastic, right right, 239 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 1: No one's talked about that before, but yeah, like our 240 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 1: prop papers were essentially old expired medical documents from people's procedures, 241 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 1: like a bunch of the ton of them. They lasted 242 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 1: for years, yes, And I remember doing the same thing 243 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 1: like okay, and I would pull pieces of paper that 244 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 1: looked more like Excel, like like that number right, so 245 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 1: like so like if I had a whole thing that 246 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 1: was mostly writing, I was like, wow, this doesn't really 247 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:36,479 Speaker 1: look right, right, Like I need something that looks like numbers, 248 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 1: and then you would look and it would be like 249 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 1: red blood cell count numbers for Jason Alexander from Wow. 250 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 1: Jason's okay though, everybody, It's ok Yeah. It was a 251 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 1: bizarre This is so pre internet recycling. There you go, 252 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 1: all right, we were doing some brainwork. You're hilarious recycling. 253 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 1: This is true repurposing, messing. A paper company office needs 254 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 1: paper ladies and gentlemen. We were not destroying trees for 255 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 1: this Charlee and show. That's hilarious. And of course you 256 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 1: know Ken koppas directing like go ahead, you never say action, 257 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 1: go ahead. Loved him just but understanding that, like you're 258 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 1: not just suddenly turning on. You're already in You're already 259 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 1: in it. You you're working, so just continue, go ahead. 260 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 1: It's perfect. It's like the perfect direction. We talked to 261 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 1: him about that some too. Yeah, bringing us in early 262 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 1: and having that thirty minutes of like worktime and having 263 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 1: us all there together in that room doing bs paperwork. 264 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 1: You and quiet and very quiet, so quiet, painful subtimes. Yes, 265 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 1: and then you would just hear like John or Leslie 266 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 1: or Phillis, pretend to be honest. Sure, sure. And I 267 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 1: also remember during the healthcare episode that was the first 268 00:15:56,840 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 1: time I improvised, and the whole thing about the unse 269 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 1: is different from a vagina. I still have a vagina. 270 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 1: Remember Greg telling me I ran in him. I was 271 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 1: still waiting tables during the first season, and I would 272 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 1: see some people from the show at my restaurant and 273 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 1: I would see Ken Kappas sometimes and then I saw 274 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 1: Greg and I wasn't waiting on it, but he came 275 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 1: back because I had to talk to you. I love 276 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 1: that he like completely ignored that I was wearing a 277 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 1: uniforms fantastic. I'm fighting with the network about vagina. I 278 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 1: just really want to keep it in. I'm really hoping 279 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 1: it works out. And I was like, yeah, I mean 280 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 1: like he just can't. He came up to you. So 281 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 1: you're working at Cape Manolini still, which is Beverly Hills 282 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 1: fancy restaurant where every famous person on the planet came in. 283 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 1: So you were there through When did you stop? I 284 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 1: stopped right before we started season two, so literally a 285 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 1: couple of weeks. So I quit my no I covered 286 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 1: my ships during the weekend, and I used to work 287 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 1: my Sunday brunch and then I because we only shot 288 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 1: it was, you know, after the pilot was just five episodes. 289 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 1: So yeah, and then and then I remember Amy Hackerling 290 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 1: came in with their parents, Brian Gordon came, a few 291 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 1: people came in, and they kind of gave me this 292 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 1: look like oh, hi, sorry, I mean they didn't. They 293 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 1: were a little condescending or a little too sympathetic. I 294 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:13,920 Speaker 1: was like, it's fine whatever on the four year old wagress, 295 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:15,719 Speaker 1: I know, I get up steve to the four year 296 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 1: old version, on the four ye old wages whatever. I mean, 297 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:20,440 Speaker 1: it is what it is, you know. And then when 298 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 1: Greg came in, he completely ignored the fact that I 299 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 1: was wearing like I love him for that so much. 300 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:26,719 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure he just was like, oh, but 301 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 1: we got business to attend to. Let's get to it, 302 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 1: you know, so we're you still working there once the 303 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 1: start airing. Yeah, did you have people come up to you? 304 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:39,440 Speaker 1: I did some. Actually, one time someone asked me. They said, hey, 305 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 1: I have a question for you. Are you lactose intolerant? 306 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:46,119 Speaker 1: And I said, yes, thanks for not bringing up my 307 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 1: hystery activation. That was like their way of yeah. And 308 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 1: then I remember, like Marty Panzer who was bart Barry 309 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 1: Maneler's lyricist, was pissed because he said, come in here 310 00:17:56,800 --> 00:18:00,119 Speaker 1: on Tuesday nights and you, uh, you're not here. But 311 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 1: everybody nobody was on me because they're all watching the show. 312 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:06,399 Speaker 1: They're all up at the bar watching you, and I 313 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:11,680 Speaker 1: can't get any good service, Like whatever, looks like you 314 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 1: did it? Oh my god, Um, did you did you 315 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:24,160 Speaker 1: think the show would be picked up? I wasn't sure. 316 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 1: And I remember we didn't get invited to the first upfronts, 317 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 1: and I remember thinking like, okay, well, and I think 318 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:34,439 Speaker 1: technically we weren't regular until Bose curz Um. But I 319 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 1: felt like we had a shot. I felt like there 320 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 1: was some vibe something that just felt different from anything 321 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:43,920 Speaker 1: else I'd ever been involved with. It was really intense 322 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 1: and and really great and just half unfolded so wonderfully. 323 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 1: It was like a slow, steady, wonderful rise, which never 324 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:58,719 Speaker 1: happens in this town. And I know that there had 325 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 1: been documentary mockumentary movies like spinal Type and stuff, but 326 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 1: never never a TV show even some of the mocumentary stuff, 327 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:09,359 Speaker 1: Like I feel like our show is up with the 328 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 1: very best. I mean, I really feel that way even 329 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 1: all nine seasons, Like there's things where you just go yes, yes, 330 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 1: so the office. You know, I want to tell you 331 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:42,399 Speaker 1: I have this sort of theory that part of the 332 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 1: specialness not sure it's a word, specialness or uniqueness of 333 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:51,920 Speaker 1: the ensemble had to do with, you know, how attractive 334 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 1: we all were, how completely fucking sexy we were. No, 335 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:58,200 Speaker 1: but that was new, you know that was a new thing, 336 00:19:58,240 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 1: you know. I mean that was definitely a concept is 337 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:02,680 Speaker 1: we were not supposed to be attracted. And I felt 338 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 1: like I held that mantel pretty well all nine years. 339 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 1: I just have to say. Some people ask for a 340 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 1: little more makeup. I was like, nope, I'm sticking with 341 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 1: the game, sticking with it. Love it, lived it, living it, 342 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:14,200 Speaker 1: love it. And my boyfriend used to say, I look 343 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 1: better taking out the trash and I did on the show, 344 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 1: and which is fine with me. I'm really I'm it's fine, 345 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:21,200 Speaker 1: you know, And now I know I'm not looking so good. 346 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:23,359 Speaker 1: People go, you look exactly like you did on the show. 347 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:30,119 Speaker 1: Compliment and a dig I'll take it all. Um, I 348 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:34,879 Speaker 1: you know we're in the same um space. But you 349 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 1: had you and Steve and Angela and Oscar who you 350 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 1: were great improblems and Rain and I we were doing 351 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 1: check off right, and then you had b J and 352 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:50,879 Speaker 1: and Craig doing stand up right. Sure, so true, and 353 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 1: you know I love the way you broke down. And um, 354 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 1: were you in the Seagull or Three Sisters? When you 355 00:20:56,560 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 1: rang three sisters? Three sisters? We did three Sisters together. 356 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 1: I also did the Seagull I was at in college. 357 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 1: I think I was in the Three Sisters at least 358 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:14,119 Speaker 1: twice from once with Rain. Um, but yeah, I know 359 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 1: it's crazy, that's so, that's so right on. I mean 360 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:21,880 Speaker 1: truly like I was doing the darkest of darkest, yes, 361 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 1: and it was no. I used to always say that 362 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:26,879 Speaker 1: I was in a drama. I used to say that 363 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 1: to Greg, and actually he said that to me once. 364 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 1: He goes, this isn't a drama, and I was like, 365 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 1: it is for me. It is like right, Um, you 366 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 1: are the only person from Pennsylvania. Yeah, Zach Woods is too, 367 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 1: he's from he's in Bucks County, but he came along later. 368 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:46,879 Speaker 1: So I was the one always bitching to get tasty 369 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 1: cakes into the vending machines because there's no there really 370 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:52,359 Speaker 1: is no vending machine in Pennsylvania that does not have 371 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 1: tasty cakes, and we eventually did, but it was very brief. 372 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:58,359 Speaker 1: That's all right, mission accomplished. They were too expensive. I 373 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 1: don't know, I'm not sure to be um, what do 374 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 1: you think about setting the show specifically in Scranton, Pennsylvania, 375 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:10,200 Speaker 1: so goes along with Slough, England, which is this kind 376 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:14,880 Speaker 1: of forgettable town that had a glory day. But I mean, 377 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 1: growing up in Philadelphia, Scranton was a joke, so it 378 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:20,359 Speaker 1: was always the butt of many jokes. I think what 379 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 1: Greg did was he got very very specific and used 380 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:31,119 Speaker 1: contradictory ideas that you don't see in television, like there's 381 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 1: the big dumb guy Kevin, but he's really good at 382 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 1: basketball and he's a poker savant. But Meredith as well, 383 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 1: like the ways that she was very specific. Yes, yes, 384 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:46,119 Speaker 1: and sometimes I didn't always like every one. While I 385 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:48,400 Speaker 1: remember improvising and feeling like I'm not sure if this 386 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 1: is gonna work whatever. I felt like season three was 387 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:53,159 Speaker 1: a little bit of a struggle. I felt like I 388 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 1: got I mean, or there was a little more trial 389 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 1: and error or something, and that I feel like once 390 00:22:58,040 --> 00:22:59,919 Speaker 1: we got to season four, once I got hit by 391 00:22:59,920 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 1: the car in the fun run, episode was like we're 392 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:04,439 Speaker 1: off to the races. But season three, I feel like 393 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:06,680 Speaker 1: I was particularly cut out a lot, and I felt 394 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 1: like some of it was like we were trying for 395 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 1: things that didn't quite hit um. And some of that 396 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:14,359 Speaker 1: might may have just been me not getting it, but 397 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:15,919 Speaker 1: I was. I was a little bit like, oh my gosh, 398 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 1: I I hope we you know, I hope we find something, 399 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:20,880 Speaker 1: you know suddenly, and boy did we. But just kind 400 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:24,160 Speaker 1: of like understanding, like another layer of like, oh, she's 401 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:27,119 Speaker 1: she's a mess, but she's also not a victim, and 402 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:31,639 Speaker 1: she's not she's not as involved, but in a in 403 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 1: a very conscious way, she's not excluded. She just wants 404 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:37,640 Speaker 1: to stay in her life, like literally, like she doesn't 405 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 1: want to get involved with I don't know. I've had 406 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 1: women come up to me and be like, oh my god, 407 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:45,479 Speaker 1: I'm the Meredith of my office, and and it's not 408 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 1: just because they're like a drinker, because they usually are 409 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 1: and they're loud and proud, so I totally believe them, 410 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:53,920 Speaker 1: like only a Meredith would be like a Meredith. Wow. 411 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,680 Speaker 1: You know. It's like that to me is like the 412 00:23:56,760 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 1: ultimate compliment. It's fantastic. You know, my dad into bar. 413 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 1: I don't know if you knew this, but so I'm 414 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 1: a bar inner's daughter. You remember that Halloween episode, the 415 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,639 Speaker 1: first Halloween episode that was supposed to be when it 416 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 1: was revealed that Meredith was a drinker and the whole 417 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 1: thing got cut, And remember Paul Fieg was like, I'm 418 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,439 Speaker 1: so sorry. The network just wanted more of Michael Scott 419 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:19,199 Speaker 1: handing candy to the kids from his new condom and like, uh, anyway, 420 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:21,200 Speaker 1: my dad on a bar and my dad understood the 421 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 1: complexities of alcoholics too, and some of them were extremely 422 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 1: functional in some ways and charming and others and then 423 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:29,359 Speaker 1: blow it and then get get back you know, really 424 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 1: mess up their life and then get it back together. 425 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 1: You know, there's little elements. I feel like there were subtle, 426 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:37,919 Speaker 1: subtle things that kept showing up, like Meredith's relationship with 427 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 1: her son Jakie and you know, bring your daughter to 428 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:45,200 Speaker 1: work day, Meredith brings her son, uh, who's a nightmare 429 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 1: and calls Michael Scott Mr poop so good so but 430 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 1: again like and and Meredith's ever forgiving and she's not 431 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 1: like a mean mom, She's she's a little indulgent, you know, 432 00:24:57,760 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 1: which again, like I don't know if that would have 433 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 1: been my first choice, but I totally respect it. I 434 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 1: get it. I see that in other people and I think, 435 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,240 Speaker 1: oh my god, the writing was so great, Like they 436 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:11,159 Speaker 1: really did not need my help, right. I think you 437 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:14,199 Speaker 1: touched on something that I never really thought about before. 438 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 1: But you have a lot of kind of wonderful moments 439 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:24,359 Speaker 1: with Michael Scott, like specifically with him. You know, there's 440 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 1: obviously the Christmas episode where you know, you flash him 441 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:31,479 Speaker 1: for the first time. Um, but yeah, fun run when 442 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:33,640 Speaker 1: he hits you with the car, break your pelvis. There's 443 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 1: a very tender moment at the end of that that 444 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:41,639 Speaker 1: episode when you hear what he's done for you. Yeah. 445 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:46,439 Speaker 1: It's interesting to me that Meredith functions kind of sol 446 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:49,679 Speaker 1: in the in the group of an Ian. This has 447 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 1: never occurred to me before. But you know, that sort 448 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 1: of iconic shot of you playing Solitaire on the computer, like, 449 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 1: there's some connection to that, and you weren't by and large, 450 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 1: you weren't going over and hanging out at sales or 451 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:09,160 Speaker 1: coming over to the account, which I think gave your 452 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 1: character an opportunity to do a lot of special things. 453 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:16,479 Speaker 1: And obviously you being gifted physically as well well. It's 454 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 1: fun to get to do the physical comedy. And I 455 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 1: was thinking, you know, the the Valentine episode, the first 456 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 1: Valentine episode season two, when Phyllis is getting all these 457 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 1: gifts and Pam is really upset, and you just seem, 458 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 1: you know, Meredith with their big olpen and then we 459 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:29,639 Speaker 1: find out that she's drinking and then she's passed out 460 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 1: with a line in her hair. I mean that to 461 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:36,399 Speaker 1: me was like, what a perfect, perfect little just just 462 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 1: perfect enough. We get it, We've been there, we know that. 463 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 1: I mean again, there's so many layers and it's just 464 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:46,239 Speaker 1: I don't know, I just feel so um, it's just 465 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:50,439 Speaker 1: so fortunate to be a part of something that I 466 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:54,160 Speaker 1: think always have a respect level that most other TV 467 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 1: shows don't have. I really don't. How do you feel 468 00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 1: like Kate influenced Meredith? Um? I think I will. For one, 469 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 1: I was always willing to do most of my own stunts, 470 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 1: and for me, that made it more fun. I felt 471 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 1: I felt like I was really experiencing more that makes 472 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 1: any sense. Um. And and I also think that audience 473 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 1: knows sometimes when you know there's you know, I don't 474 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:18,919 Speaker 1: if you guys used to watch The Bionic Woman but 475 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 1: there was always like some six foot guy in a 476 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 1: blonde wig pretending to be Jamie Summers, like so bad, 477 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 1: But yeah, I just it made me feel a little 478 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 1: more part of the process, and I felt like it 479 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:29,919 Speaker 1: was one of my strengths that I really enjoyed it. 480 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 1: So when I was planking in the men's room and 481 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,680 Speaker 1: Dwight comes and blows me off the top of the 482 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 1: stall with the fire extinguisher, that was me. So you know, 483 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:45,200 Speaker 1: you didn't you didn't do one thing, though, Uh, there's 484 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 1: a couple of things I didn't do. I did. I 485 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 1: didn't get my hair on fire, and did not light 486 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:49,320 Speaker 1: my hair on fire. When I heard that there was 487 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:52,120 Speaker 1: like face gel involved, I was like, I don't know 488 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:57,160 Speaker 1: if I wanted. I didn't shake my hand, I did not. Yeah, 489 00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 1: good for you. I think I disappointed Greg, but really 490 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 1: he was shocked. He was like really, I'm like, I'm sorry, 491 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:08,120 Speaker 1: but no, my hair is my thing. What I um? Well, 492 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 1: actually leading into that, do you there was so much 493 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:17,359 Speaker 1: sexual stuff with Meredith. Yea. My parents were so happy 494 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 1: about that. My dad's so Catholic. He was like, oh, 495 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:25,639 Speaker 1: what is going on? Do you when people say that 496 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,680 Speaker 1: we couldn't do the show today. Do you think that 497 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,159 Speaker 1: do you think that's a part of it. I was 498 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 1: reminded doing the research about you selling sex for steak, Yeah, 499 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 1: for steak coupons? Yeah yeah, yeah. But she was contrite, 500 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 1: she admitted it, and she was asking for forgiveness, right, 501 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 1: there's got to be I mean, there's some conscience in that, 502 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 1: which is funny and sad. I mean, that's that's the 503 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 1: best thing about The Office, is that it's the funny 504 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 1: and sad. Right. Um, there was a time I thought 505 00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 1: Kevin and Mereth might we did kiss that one time? 506 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 1: You remember that? I didn't make it on the air. 507 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 1: I can't. I don't remember now. What was it? What 508 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 1: was the context like that? I know, I can't remember. 509 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 1: It was at my desk? You know? Why did we 510 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 1: do that? Was it? Was it a party? I remember 511 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 1: it was like a test, Like I remember. I think 512 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 1: about it every night. I just can't remember so much 513 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 1: sexual attention between you and I. Oh my gosh, what 514 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 1: was it? I can't remember. Shoot, I'm not sure. Oh 515 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 1: my gosh. I felt like they toyed. I felt like 516 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 1: the writer's toyed with it for a memure. Yes they did. 517 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 1: I do remember this a little bit. And I think 518 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 1: it was before the Valentine episode when Kevin was looking 519 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 1: for a girlfriend. Okay, I think it was before that. 520 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 1: It was to be explored. That's so fun. I forgot 521 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:46,480 Speaker 1: that we're not lives. We can't have a fan phone in, 522 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 1: we can't answer damn. Um. Yeah, I'm gonna have to 523 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to think about it. I don't know 524 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 1: that it aired that. It may not have. It may 525 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 1: not have. Was that tough for you though? The getting 526 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 1: naked part of it was a little like ship but 527 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 1: it's a little like jumping out of an airplane. And 528 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 1: I will tell you, as great as you know Randal 529 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 1: and Matt were, I always felt like I didn't get much. 530 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 1: I kind that lunch after we shot me pick upless. 531 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,720 Speaker 1: It was a little uncomfortable. And I think the last season, 532 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 1: season nine, there was an episode where we're watching parts 533 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 1: of the documentary at Oscar's desk in a scene and 534 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 1: I would have like a little bit of moleskin and 535 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 1: it fell and Ed's like, whoa, wha, whoa, we have 536 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 1: to stop. He was like, we could really see your boob. 537 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh no, I had no idea. I was 538 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:36,720 Speaker 1: so embarrassed. Oh I forgot about that. Yeah. No, but 539 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 1: you were so fearless in both the physicality that you 540 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 1: did and the pranks that you did. I feel like 541 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:50,440 Speaker 1: you and I had did a lot of really bad 542 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 1: I remember the one what you wouldn't think about it 543 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:57,640 Speaker 1: like watching the show. But we were loading boxes. We 544 00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 1: were the warehouse was gone, right, and there was like 545 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 1: oil on the on the warehouse floor and we're like 546 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 1: pushing boxes like that was our idea to be more 547 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:11,240 Speaker 1: efficient was to push boxes. And they just kept having 548 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 1: me ball and I'm like, guys, this is concorde, Like 549 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 1: this is not like there's no padding, there's no there. Yeah. 550 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 1: I think that was I think the hardest one for weirdly, 551 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:26,760 Speaker 1: but you wouldn't think it, right, No, no, no, but 552 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:28,960 Speaker 1: it's those little things because you're not padded and no, 553 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 1: I totally no. There was no safety meeting about it before, 554 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 1: like seriously, like there's a reason why they used to 555 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 1: do that stuff because you don't want to get hurt. Well, 556 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 1: me holding you on my back, oh my god, with 557 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 1: the that was intense. That's that's one of those things 558 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 1: that's like what drugs was someone on who came up 559 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:50,040 Speaker 1: with that idea that Meredith strapped on Kevin's back crazy 560 00:31:50,400 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 1: make the idiots perform like monkeys. What do you remember 561 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 1: about finding out that Steve was leaving U. I literally 562 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:24,960 Speaker 1: was with Creed. We were on the side of the 563 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:30,760 Speaker 1: office doing like a satellite press junket um and we 564 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 1: and they had announced it that morning, so every venue 565 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 1: wanted to talk about it, and I was like, wow, 566 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 1: because of course it was emotional. I mean, who are 567 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:45,880 Speaker 1: we We're not I mean Michael Scott. You know, Michael 568 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 1: Scott is thunder reveling, he is the office. Um. Yeah, 569 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:51,960 Speaker 1: I was so freaked out. And literally I told Creed, 570 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:53,719 Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, anytime they talk about this, just just 571 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:55,479 Speaker 1: pretend like we can't hear the feet, like I think 572 00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:57,600 Speaker 1: the feed's going. I'm sorry, I'm getting some interference. What 573 00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:59,720 Speaker 1: was the question? Wishing him all the best? Like we 574 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:01,479 Speaker 1: had the little thing where we would figure out how 575 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:05,800 Speaker 1: to get out of the conversation. So but I was 576 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,720 Speaker 1: I was definitely freaked out. And I mean, the great thing, 577 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:11,200 Speaker 1: the great thing about our show is that I feel 578 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:14,240 Speaker 1: like Greg Daniels is so trustworthy, and I feel like 579 00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 1: he's picked so many great writers, and I feel like, 580 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:19,040 Speaker 1: if anything could have survived a couple more years without 581 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 1: step Growl, it was because of Greg Daniels. But I 582 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 1: was nervous. I was, and I was nervous about Spader 583 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 1: um just because he's not a comedy guy. And he's brilliant, 584 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:31,200 Speaker 1: but he's not a comedy guy. And I kind of 585 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 1: had this little thing like, oh no, he's holding the baby. 586 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 1: He's gonna drop the baby. Don't drop the baby. And 587 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,000 Speaker 1: also I was intimidated because he's he's like a movie 588 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,760 Speaker 1: star and I had seen so many all of his movies, 589 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 1: and you know, and there was so much sexual tension 590 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:48,120 Speaker 1: between the two of us, so much, so much, but 591 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,440 Speaker 1: I felt like there was sexual tension between me and Spade. 592 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 1: They're they're probably even more even more seriously, Spader, he 593 00:33:56,720 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 1: liked anyone there is sexual um. The season eight Christmas episode, 594 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:08,480 Speaker 1: there was one take where he's sort of like Meredith 595 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:10,520 Speaker 1: thinks she's actually made me gonna go to dinner with 596 00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 1: em or something like that, she's got a chance with him, 597 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,080 Speaker 1: and he sort of touches her cheeks like no, no, no, 598 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:17,359 Speaker 1: and she goes to hug me, and I literally one take, 599 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:19,840 Speaker 1: I grabbed his ass and then I was like immediately 600 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:21,759 Speaker 1: when we stopped, I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I'm 601 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 1: so sorry. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I just felt like, 602 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:25,719 Speaker 1: oh my god, he goes, No, he goes. That was 603 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:29,520 Speaker 1: the right thing to do. End up using it, but 604 00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:32,359 Speaker 1: I was like, I don't grab James Spader's ask Kate 605 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:38,160 Speaker 1: what them. I was so nervous. I was like, oh no, 606 00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:43,920 Speaker 1: oh no, oh no, he's amazing, amazing. Yeah. Pool party 607 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:48,080 Speaker 1: supposedly at Robert California's house. That was the hardest episode 608 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:51,040 Speaker 1: for me to do. Wow, I was in the pool 609 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:54,560 Speaker 1: a really that's really really long time. And it was 610 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:55,960 Speaker 1: one of the hardest for me because I had to 611 00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,840 Speaker 1: be in a bathing suit on camera in my forties 612 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:03,320 Speaker 1: dream not and you think, like, you're in a pool, 613 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:07,400 Speaker 1: why are you complaining? But like because of like hypothermia. 614 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:10,560 Speaker 1: They had it, but it was gross. It was heated, 615 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:12,880 Speaker 1: but it was indoors. So it was kind of like 616 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:16,440 Speaker 1: an old holiday in that you can swim in that's hot, 617 00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:20,359 Speaker 1: and then you're in it for like in a day, 618 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:24,600 Speaker 1: maybe nine hours in the water. Yeah. Yeah, and you 619 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,680 Speaker 1: guys were doing those chicken fights with with on your shoulder. Yeah, 620 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 1: Oh my god. That was crazy. Again, the sexual tension 621 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:36,160 Speaker 1: was off the charts. Um, so we had how important 622 00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:40,120 Speaker 1: it was, you know, for the pilot specifically, um, but 623 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:43,600 Speaker 1: then the guest casting after that, to not have any stars, yes, 624 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,520 Speaker 1: to keep it as unknown people. Yes. Yeah. And I 625 00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:48,799 Speaker 1: remember even Carol Burnett at the TC as she said 626 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,040 Speaker 1: she she loved our show during her speech and she 627 00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:52,919 Speaker 1: wanted to be involved. And I think they were like, Nope, 628 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:57,200 Speaker 1: too famous, too funny, too much. Yes, that's right, that 629 00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:01,719 Speaker 1: was an idea. But yeah, but then you know, of course, um, 630 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:07,520 Speaker 1: Kathy Bates, come on, Cathy Bates Spader. Yeah. Well I 631 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:11,120 Speaker 1: loved working with Will so fun Oh my god, just 632 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,600 Speaker 1: the greatest. He had remembered. We had had dinner literally 633 00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:18,759 Speaker 1: in like four uh in New York when he first 634 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:21,400 Speaker 1: got hired on S and L with Andy Richter, and 635 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:23,640 Speaker 1: I was like, I couldn't believe that he remembered. And 636 00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:25,960 Speaker 1: I remember being embarrassed because I had a really embarrassing 637 00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:29,160 Speaker 1: ex boyfriend who was a real douche bag. He's like, 638 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,600 Speaker 1: I felt really intimidated because all you guys were from Chicago, 639 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:34,279 Speaker 1: and I felt like you guys were like so great 640 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:36,880 Speaker 1: at while I was like, what is so crazy anyway, 641 00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:40,640 Speaker 1: but I love I love love Wolfore that's bad. Uh. 642 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:44,800 Speaker 1: My story similar to that was Kathy Bates went to 643 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:48,560 Speaker 1: s M. Uh she was there before me, but while 644 00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:51,840 Speaker 1: I was there, she had already won the oscar and 645 00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:55,320 Speaker 1: she came back to like they opened a new theater 646 00:36:55,520 --> 00:37:00,319 Speaker 1: and my mom got a book of Shakespeare's sonnets sent 647 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:03,759 Speaker 1: it to Kathy Bates, told her that I was a 648 00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:05,279 Speaker 1: really big fan, and I went to s M. You 649 00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:08,600 Speaker 1: and I did this show and got it. I believe 650 00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:12,160 Speaker 1: the only autographed item that I have of anyone that 651 00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:15,680 Speaker 1: I can recall, like to Brian, you know, good luck 652 00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:18,400 Speaker 1: in your future, blah blah blah. Kathy Bates. So I 653 00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:20,719 Speaker 1: hear she's going to be on the show, And now 654 00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:22,960 Speaker 1: here we are and we're in the makeup trailer, and 655 00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:24,800 Speaker 1: I came up behind her and I said, I wanted, Kathy, 656 00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:26,640 Speaker 1: I want to show you. It wasn't her first day, 657 00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,400 Speaker 1: so I did not want to seem like a crazy stalker, 658 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,480 Speaker 1: but I came up behind her and I said, you know, 659 00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:34,400 Speaker 1: I just want to show you that my mom. And 660 00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:36,680 Speaker 1: of course I wasn't expecting her to remember I'm sure 661 00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:40,279 Speaker 1: she's signed you know a lot of things just to say, like, 662 00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:44,520 Speaker 1: how crazy is this that my mom did this? I 663 00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:47,680 Speaker 1: know crazy, Oh my gosh, that's awesome. She then had 664 00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:52,680 Speaker 1: me arrested, but she had me arrested too. That's just 665 00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,799 Speaker 1: a little fun thing we used to do with get 666 00:37:55,800 --> 00:38:02,640 Speaker 1: people arrested. Um. What do you remember about going in 667 00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:11,160 Speaker 1: to shoot the finale? Um? I remember trying to be 668 00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:13,959 Speaker 1: as present as possible and just to try to enjoy 669 00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,080 Speaker 1: all of it because it was such a great ending. 670 00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:18,600 Speaker 1: And um, and then I remember Greg just saying one 671 00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:20,319 Speaker 1: more take, one more take, how about this? How about this? 672 00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:22,480 Speaker 1: I remember we were all two hours late for our 673 00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:26,080 Speaker 1: own rap party that people were texting and calling like 674 00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:28,879 Speaker 1: where are you? Like, just like, no one wanted to end. 675 00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:34,359 Speaker 1: No one wanted to end. There's so few moments like 676 00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:38,840 Speaker 1: that in this business where you can actually feel the 677 00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:44,120 Speaker 1: emotional part of the joy that all those years represented, 678 00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:46,680 Speaker 1: and the way all of our lives changed, and the 679 00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:49,120 Speaker 1: way that it the show continues to speak to people, 680 00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:52,680 Speaker 1: and like people feel so connected and they feel so comfortable. 681 00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:57,359 Speaker 1: It's so rare. I mean, really, I I make jokes 682 00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:59,520 Speaker 1: like if I got hit by a car tomorrow, for real, 683 00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:03,160 Speaker 1: I'd be fine, Like like it was, this was such 684 00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:07,319 Speaker 1: an amazing chapter, you know, and so few actors get this, 685 00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:10,840 Speaker 1: so few actors. It's it's, uh, it's really an honor. 686 00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:16,600 Speaker 1: Why do you think that young people have connected to 687 00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:19,200 Speaker 1: the show. Why is the show more popular now than 688 00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:22,840 Speaker 1: it was? To two reasons. The most basic reason is 689 00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:27,520 Speaker 1: that being in an office like dunder Mifflin with one 690 00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:29,200 Speaker 1: big room with all the offices, it's much like being 691 00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:31,640 Speaker 1: in a classroom, and Michael Scott is like he's the boss, 692 00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:33,200 Speaker 1: but he's like the teacher. I mean, I think kids 693 00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,160 Speaker 1: can always relate to having to sit next to someone 694 00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:37,400 Speaker 1: that they didn't necessarily pick, but they're kind of stuck 695 00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:40,719 Speaker 1: with for years. And also I think the show is 696 00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:43,879 Speaker 1: so smart. There's so many subtle things. You can watch 697 00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:45,960 Speaker 1: it a million times and see different things that you 698 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:48,360 Speaker 1: didn't see before that you weren't paying attention, Like you 699 00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:51,880 Speaker 1: can notice different things. There's so many Easter eggs and 700 00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,160 Speaker 1: like weird little things that just kind of keeping. And 701 00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:56,520 Speaker 1: some of it's like stuff that got cut, like I 702 00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:58,480 Speaker 1: don't remember the weight loss episode, where like people still 703 00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:01,879 Speaker 1: have questions about like Meredith's skin, because there's a whole 704 00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:04,360 Speaker 1: storyline where Meredith got sun poisoned on a fishing boat, 705 00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:06,799 Speaker 1: and um, it got worse and worse as a week 706 00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:10,280 Speaker 1: went on, and it never got explained. And I remember 707 00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:12,560 Speaker 1: Steve was like he thought it was so brilliant that 708 00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:15,439 Speaker 1: they just didn't worry about explaining it, because how many 709 00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:17,719 Speaker 1: times you work with people that you're not that close 710 00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:19,560 Speaker 1: to and like something's going on. You're like, I don't 711 00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:21,319 Speaker 1: even want to know what's going on with it, you 712 00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:23,440 Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like not even And also like 713 00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:25,239 Speaker 1: skin is like a weird personal things, so you would 714 00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:27,520 Speaker 1: be like, what's wrong with your skin? No one would do, 715 00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:30,080 Speaker 1: you know. So it's like this kind of wonderful thing. 716 00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:34,319 Speaker 1: It's just we're just kind of existing as as a 717 00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:36,680 Speaker 1: real documentary would happen, where some things are not explained. 718 00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:39,360 Speaker 1: And I feel like kids are so smart, and I 719 00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:42,120 Speaker 1: feel like they feel like they're smarter maybe than their 720 00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:45,680 Speaker 1: parents by the way that they notice the office in 721 00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:49,240 Speaker 1: a way that maybe people have been watching very typical 722 00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:53,120 Speaker 1: sitcoms for years don't don't necessarily plug into immediately. I 723 00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:55,640 Speaker 1: feel like they're not as tainted by that. I don't know, 724 00:40:55,760 --> 00:41:00,520 Speaker 1: that's just a thought. Yeah, No, I I think you're right. No, 725 00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:07,719 Speaker 1: that's great. Um alright. Last question, hardest question. What does 726 00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:23,200 Speaker 1: the office mean to you? The office means joy, validation, success, um, love, fun, 727 00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:30,640 Speaker 1: great process and probably the best part of my life. 728 00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:33,520 Speaker 1: I knew you were going to say, well before you 729 00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:36,920 Speaker 1: set it, I know, I almost set it for you, 730 00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:42,160 Speaker 1: and I was like, nope, that's find it. Yeah, oh yeah, Kate, 731 00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,719 Speaker 1: thank you so much, Thank you so much. I'm so 732 00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:48,160 Speaker 1: glad we could get drunk like this. This is awesome. 733 00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:51,760 Speaker 1: This coffee has you have no idea what's in it? Actually, 734 00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:57,839 Speaker 1: no clue? Um, so awesome. I always loved watching your 735 00:41:57,840 --> 00:41:59,560 Speaker 1: process too. I have to say this because I always 736 00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:03,560 Speaker 1: felt like you you had You just had certain instincts 737 00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:05,680 Speaker 1: that like just I feel like you were such a 738 00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:08,680 Speaker 1: co creator and Kevin, like just in your not speaking 739 00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:10,279 Speaker 1: as well, but like there would be things that you 740 00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:16,080 Speaker 1: would just it was you. You were fearless and really amazing, 741 00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:19,040 Speaker 1: and I feel like, yes, the writing is amazing, but 742 00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:21,520 Speaker 1: I feel like no one else could do what you did. 743 00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:38,400 Speaker 1: No one. Well, thank you all right, everyone, that is 744 00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:44,120 Speaker 1: all for the one and only Kate Flannery. Kate, I 745 00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:47,440 Speaker 1: know you called me fearless there, but you are the 746 00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:50,600 Speaker 1: fearless one. I admire you so much and I cannot 747 00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:57,000 Speaker 1: wait to get absolutely wasted with you again soon. And 748 00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:59,919 Speaker 1: you know what, same to all your listeners out there. 749 00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:03,120 Speaker 1: Let's do it sometime, as long as you're of age, 750 00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:07,200 Speaker 1: of course, But until then, please join me back here 751 00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:12,000 Speaker 1: next week for another interview. I need to go fill 752 00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:23,320 Speaker 1: up this coffee cump the office. Deep Dive is hosted 753 00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:27,800 Speaker 1: and executive produced by me Brian Baumgartner, alongside our executive 754 00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:32,480 Speaker 1: producer Langley. Our senior producer is Tessa Kramer, our producer 755 00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:36,480 Speaker 1: is Emily Carr, and our assistant editor is die Go Tapia. 756 00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:40,040 Speaker 1: My main man in the booth is Alec Moore. Our 757 00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:43,680 Speaker 1: theme song Bubble and Squeak, performed by my great friend 758 00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:59,520 Speaker 1: Cree Bratton, and the episode was mixed by seth Olansky