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Speaker 2: We have made it to Friday. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker

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Speaker 2: right into Bills practice updates, which are presented by Lee

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Speaker 2: Coom your Lake Erie College of Osteopathic Medicine, because there

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Speaker 2: is a lengthy list of information to comb through here

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Speaker 2: after coach McDermott addressed the media earlier today prior to practice. First,

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Speaker 2: the Bills will be without defensive tackle day Kwon Jones,

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Speaker 2: wide receiver Joshua Palmer, and safety Tailer Rap on Sunday

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Speaker 2: against Carolina. All three have been declared out for the

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Speaker 2: game and Rap has been placed on injured reserve, so

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Speaker 2: that means he will miss this game and at least

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Speaker 2: three more due to a knee injury. Head coach Sean

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Speaker 2: McDermott said rap had been dealing with that injury that

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Speaker 2: he suffered two weeks into training camp and has been

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Speaker 2: gutting it out ever since. Obviously it got to a

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Speaker 2: point where he could no longer play effectively. So perhaps

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Speaker 2: that explains some of his shortcomings out there on the field,

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Speaker 2: because I think many of us didn't feel like he

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Speaker 2: was the same He looked like the same player out

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Speaker 2: there that we've become accustomed to seeing in seasons past. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: hole at the starting safety position. Last week, when Rapp

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Speaker 2: left the game at Atlanta, we saw practice squad call

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Speaker 2: up Jordan Poyer step in for him. When coach McDermott

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Speaker 2: was asked about filling that role this week, he would

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Speaker 2: only say that they're looking at a couple of players,

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Speaker 2: but a final decision had not yet been made. The

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Speaker 2: During pregame warmups on Sunday. But I think a lot

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Speaker 3: Poyer, that's my guess. I'd love to see Hancock.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd love to see Hancock too, but I think

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Speaker 1: the you know, I think last week's game and the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, which you could have. So I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I'm just they're gonna they're gonna be up against it.

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Speaker 1: Carolina's got a big athletic Ted McMillan is a really

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Speaker 1: good wide out. He's a he's a rookie, but he's six.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the guy really runs, catches the ball well,

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Speaker 2: So his exavier look, Xavier Leget is a six to three,

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Speaker 1: You can sense there philosophy of their wideouts room you know,

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Speaker 3: And their tight ends are even bigger.

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Speaker 1: They picked up Hunter Renfro, the veteran out of you

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Speaker 3: So they got the speed Tam and Jimmy Horn.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so they've they've got a room full of talent

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and for whatever it's reason, whatever it happens, is

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Speaker 1: de Bryce Young is listed is questionable for this game.

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Speaker 1: So no, doubtful, doubtful, that's right, doubtful for this game.

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Speaker 1: So you're looking at you know, Andy Dalton, who does

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Speaker 2: Questionable for the game on Sunday. Torell Bernard, Dalton, Kincaid,

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Speaker 2: out for Sunday's game. As Steve mentioned, Bryce Young, quarterback

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Speaker 2: which means that Andy Dalton is the likely starter on

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Speaker 2: Sunday and Andy. Dalton's career statistics against the Bills. He

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Speaker 2: I know you're not crazy about him playing. I am

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Speaker 3: Dalton is not an off script quarterback playmaker. Okay, we'll

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's the statue. Just read bear that out. Ten touchdowns,

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Speaker 1: So the Bills will, you know, be I think he

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Speaker 1: He's coming in fresh off the bench, But I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I'm yeah, he'll have He'll bring a different set of

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Speaker 3: And to a point you made earlier in the week,

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Speaker 1: This week, they're gonna have a game plan centered around

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Speaker 1: that skill set. It's not like he's gonna take Bryce

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Speaker 2: You know, there is no other player with an injury

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Speaker 3: Elsewhere around the.

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Speaker 2: NFL, which is presented by Kalida Healthy, official healthcare system

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Speaker 2: of the Buffalo Bills, the Tennessee Titans placed cornerback Lagerius

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Speaker 2: No word on whether or not it is the same

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Speaker 3: Not good.

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Speaker 2: I mean, not that they're going anywhere this year anyway,

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Speaker 2: that's just rough. Lamar Jackson on the practice field for

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Speaker 2: Nick Sirianni declined to give an update on AJ Brown's

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Speaker 2: at all during the week two did not practices followed

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Speaker 3: But I smell gamesmanship. But yeah, I don't think he's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, They've got enough other talent to turn to with

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Speaker 1: That's been an ongoing story in Philly about, in fact,

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Speaker 3: And it's gone from bad to worse for the Jets.

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Speaker 2: Steve, if that's even possible at this point, Why receiver

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Speaker 2: On top of that, quarterback Tyrod Taylor, who is very

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Speaker 2: Jets face the Bengals, citing competitive advantage as the reason

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Speaker 1: Well, Tyrod is Bills fans. No, Tyrod has a hard

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Speaker 3: And yeah, not a quick release guy.

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Speaker 3: I think he's not going to have him. Yeah, that's a.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's getting worse. You said it.

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Speaker 2: Didn't know if it was possible, but it might very

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Speaker 2: well be. Chargers beat the Vikings thirty seven to ten

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Speaker 2: on Thursday Night football. Four days ago, Chargers played their

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Speaker 2: Thursday night, they dominate a Minnesota team that got awful

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Speaker 2: And it looks, in addition to the victory like the

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Speaker 2: Chargers dodged a bullet because last night safety Derwin James

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Speaker 2: But it's reportedly a low ankle spring, and the Chargers

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Speaker 2: so there's a chance James might not even miss any

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Speaker 1: Justin Herbert played last night like everybody thought he would

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Speaker 3: Not for the Vikings.

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Speaker 2: They are wayward with their quarterback situation. Still waiting for

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Speaker 2: got to wonder how they feel about punting on Sam Darnold.

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Speaker 2: I know the season ended poorly with the way he

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Speaker 1: I have a hard time thinking that it was the

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Speaker 3: There's I think there's thinks there's something else there.

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Speaker 1: Yes, And kay, Colonel Mustard, it is you don't jump

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Speaker 3: I mean he was with who was he with?

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Speaker 2: Well, he was with San Francisco before going to Minnesota,

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Speaker 3: With the Seahawks. I'd get it, but he's He was with, oh.

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Speaker 2: You don't have to give me the rundown. I know

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Speaker 1: This, Jets, Carolina, San Francisco, Minnesota, and now Seattle. You

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Speaker 1: You don't plow through that many teams and have nobody

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Speaker 1: And I think that's one of the reasons. Minnesota was like,

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Speaker 1: Somebody asked me today we were talking about quarterbacks around

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Speaker 1: And I said, he's It might be a Sam Darnald

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Speaker 2: Now they did make him an offer. Well, don't forget, Yes,

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Speaker 1: And Sam's gonna be thirty or twenty eight.

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Speaker 3: He's young.

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Speaker 1: It's twenty eight, twenty eight.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, if you got it, here's the youngest guy in

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Speaker 1: If you think Karthy's going to be the guy, I

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Speaker 2: I just always find it interesting when teams have We

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Speaker 3: That makes a difference.

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Speaker 2: But when you have a quarterback that can win you

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Speaker 2: always find it curious when teams punt on that and

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Speaker 2: you don't know for sure. You know what Donald, you

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Speaker 1: That's what's puzzling to me, how many times have we

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Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. You can say what's interesting.

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Speaker 1: You can say it happened in Green Bay twice when

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Speaker 1: I mean, when does it ever happen? When does it happen? Well,

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Speaker 3: That's different.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we like, we have to do better than this

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Speaker 3: Going fourteen and three in the NFC North.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, having an abrupt exit from the playoffs because Darnald

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Speaker 2: He can't decide quickly enough to get rid of the

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Speaker 2: offensive lineman. If I'm on, if I'm on Carson Wentz's team,

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Speaker 2: and I got a block for that dude, thank you,

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Speaker 2: No anybody else, put anybody else in there, because you

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Speaker 3: He was horrible last night.

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Speaker 4: Horrible.

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Speaker 3: And this isn't the first time, Steve.

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Speaker 2: You want to talk about a quarterback that's gone through

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Speaker 3: Played for in the last five years? Right, holy crap?

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Speaker 1: Right, well, they went yeah there with wins because JJ's

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Speaker 3: Ye their last last the division.

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Speaker 1: They lost their last game, which meant the Detroit Lions

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Speaker 3: And they had to go on the road to play

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Speaker 1: They lost two straight coming out of their by They

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Speaker 3: Where were they in the playoffs?

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Speaker 6: There at.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you where this season?

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Speaker 3: Just go back and go to postseason there?

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Speaker 6: Okay, where you were?

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Speaker 1: Hold on.

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Speaker 3: Post Oh no, you lost it? Oh, Steve, I hate it. Well,

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Speaker 3: you go to postseason right here, postseason.

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Speaker 1: Hold on, there we go, all right at the Rams.

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Speaker 2: That's so they had to go on the road, winning

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Speaker 2: trade him, Trade him to Indy. One year in Indy,

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Speaker 2: But when you're six five and two hundred and forty

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Speaker 2: they'll give you another shot, and they'll give you another shot.

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Speaker 2: He cannot see it. That guy is washed up.

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Speaker 3: It's over. The real.

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Speaker 1: Surprise is that they got such good play out of

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Speaker 3: In he was an MVP candidate, who was he was

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Speaker 1: He was gonna win the MVP in Philly and got

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Speaker 3: Eleven or something like that, and never been the same man.

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Speaker 1: Of course, the legend of Nick Foles came in and

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Speaker 3: Ever been the same. Uh.

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Speaker 2: It's an OBL Friday fan mail bag where we answer

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Speaker 2: your most pressing questions about the Bills, the league, whatever

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Speaker 2: is on your mind. So fire away at eight oh three,

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Speaker 2: five point fifty one eighty eight, five fifty and we

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Speaker 2: CALLI what do you got for us?

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Speaker 3: William?

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Speaker 5: Hey, how you doing?

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Speaker 3: Good?

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Speaker 5: Good, thank you for taking my call. I mean, I'm

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Speaker 5: a fan since eighteen, nineteen eighty nine, and one of

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Speaker 5: the reasons I love this team is because Steve, the

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Speaker 5: That just turned me into Bill Sand and ever since,

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Speaker 5: up and downs and into a die I'm gonna be

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Speaker 5: have a question for you guys. I noticed, I don't know,

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Speaker 5: in the last three games, especially since the beginning of

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Speaker 5: the year, I noticed that I don't see any intensity

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Speaker 5: and Josh, you know, Josh, and I mean, we have

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Speaker 5: a lot of penalties, we have a lot of things,

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Speaker 5: but those things, you know, can be clean up, they

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Speaker 5: can be fixed. You know, but I don't see intensity

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Speaker 5: in the end.

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Speaker 7: The thing.

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Speaker 5: You know, I used to play semi professional soccer and

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Speaker 5: one you know, you you you play steep about a

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Speaker 5: professional you know, once in there, you know you have

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Speaker 5: someone that comes to the local room and says, you know, guys,

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Speaker 5: you know, raise the voice and you know what, guys,

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Speaker 5: we need to fix this. We need to do this.

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Speaker 5: And do you think we have like a big leader

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Speaker 5: in the team other than Josh, because sometimes I don't

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Speaker 5: see Josh the big leader in the team. And I

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Speaker 5: wonder if there's anyone that can do it, because I mean,

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Speaker 5: we saw that at the Pet Troops you know game

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Speaker 5: that Diggs was fired up all the guys and you know,

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Speaker 5: excited and everything. And I havn't seen that end this

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Speaker 5: team this year especially, so I don't know if you

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Speaker 5: guys seen it or or you notice anything like that.

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Speaker 5: Sean is just basically quite an entire game.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 5: I don't see him like screaming or do anything to

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Speaker 5: fire off the team.

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Speaker 2: Well, I will say coach McDermott is very animated on

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Speaker 2: the sideline. I know, maybe you're victor, you're a victim

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Speaker 2: of what the cameras show you from the broadcast, but

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Speaker 2: being at those games, coach McDermott is a constant cheerleader

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Speaker 2: on the sidelines. You should have saw him after they

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Speaker 2: blocked the field goal last week. I mean, he almost

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Speaker 2: jumped out of his shirt. He was so excited. And

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Speaker 2: even when things are not going the right way, you know,

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Speaker 2: he's clapping on the sideline saying, come on, next play,

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Speaker 2: next play, let's go. So he's very animated on the

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Speaker 2: sidelines throughout the games. What you're bringing up, though, is

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Speaker 2: valid because Steve and I have noticed that over the

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Speaker 2: last three games that they have not matched the emotional

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Speaker 2: constitution of their opponents. They have not had the same

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Speaker 2: juice or energy as their opponents. And in this league,

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Speaker 2: where the margins are slim, you can get run over

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Speaker 2: by a team that is lesser than you in accomplishment,

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Speaker 2: talent or whatever and lose to a team like look

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Speaker 2: at the Patriots. Do we think the Patriots, man for man,

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Speaker 2: are better than the Bills. I don't think so. There

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Speaker 2: might be some positions where they're better, but not across

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Speaker 2: the board. And they played an airtight game, and they

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Speaker 2: were pumped up to play this team, and they're building

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Speaker 2: in prime time, and it was just enough to get

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Speaker 2: a win with a field goal in the final minute.

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Speaker 2: Same thing in Atlanta. Steve who is the more juiced

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Speaker 2: up team on Monday night to play? Yeah, And Josh

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Speaker 2: addressed in his press conference this week. He said, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: we've got to come into games with more juice. He said,

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Speaker 2: we also got to rediscover the joy of playing football again.

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Speaker 2: He said his grandma told him she needs to see

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Speaker 2: him smile more during games. And I think Josh, if

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Speaker 2: there's anything he learned from the bye week, it's that

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Speaker 2: his body language carries tremendous weight with the rest of

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Speaker 2: the team. If he comes off the field disappointed. And

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Speaker 2: he acted about a drive that didn't go as well,

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Speaker 2: that has ripple effects. Unquestionably has ripple effects. Other people

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Speaker 2: look at Josh go, oh my god. If he thinks

507
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Speaker 2: we're in trouble, we're definitely in trouble, right, I mean,

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Speaker 2: that can permeate it out sideline quickly.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. If you know, William, I think he's a little

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Speaker 3: bit right.

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Speaker 1: We've talked Brownie and Eye a lot over the you know,

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Speaker 1: last couple of years about roster makeup, and you got

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Speaker 1: to have guys that kind of set the emotional tone

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Speaker 1: for the team. Guys look to them to do that

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Speaker 1: as part of their role as a team. Forget if

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Speaker 1: they play linebacker or corner or wide receiver or offensive line.

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Speaker 1: You need somebody on the team that wants to fight

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Speaker 1: on game day, wants to kind of engage, and is

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Speaker 1: not afraid of a confrontation of verbal or otherwise. You

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Speaker 1: need a guy to come out that you can jump

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Speaker 1: on board with and say, yeah, I'm with you, let's go.

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Speaker 1: Every team needs those kind of things, and I think

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Speaker 1: you it was evident that they lacked a little bit

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Speaker 1: of that in Atlanta anyway. Now, on a Monday night

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Speaker 1: game against Patriots in their building, coming out under the

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Speaker 1: lights and all that, it's easy to get juiced up

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Speaker 1: for that. In fact, maybe they were a little too

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Speaker 1: juiced up because they were getting penalties every other play,

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Speaker 1: and so maybe there's a little bit of that in there.

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Speaker 1: But there's no question you've got to bring emotional content

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Speaker 1: to the game, and the Bills will probably see themselves

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Speaker 1: say yeah, we've got to do better in that regard.

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Speaker 1: I think William I think William was on the money.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't be surprised if coach mcdermoty pointed it out

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Speaker 2: on film this week.

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Speaker 3: You see this energy over here from Atlanta. Where's our energy?

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Speaker 3: Like I will guarantee you.

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Speaker 2: He pointed out specific examples of the lack of energy

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Speaker 2: that this team has had the last few weeks. We

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Speaker 2: got to take a break here, but we come back

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Speaker 2: more of your phone calls. So if you're holding an

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Speaker 2: eight H three ZHO five fifty, we'll get to you

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Speaker 2: when we return here. On an obl Friday fan mail

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Speaker 2: bag edition of one Bills Live for a center by

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Speaker 2: Kalida Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio. James Collision is the

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Speaker 2: official auto collision repair center of the Buffalo Bills. Get

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Speaker 2: back in the game as it's time for collision course

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Speaker 2: for this week's matchup between the Bills and the Panthers,

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Speaker 2: and it's Buffalo's run defense against the panthers third ranked

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Speaker 2: rushing attack, which is now a two headed monster.

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Speaker 3: With Chuba Hubbard back from injuries.

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Speaker 1: Right with Rico Dowbtell taking over for Cuba after he

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Speaker 1: got injured. Rico came hitting, was killing it.

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Speaker 3: It tore it up.

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Speaker 1: So now they've got, you know, the kind of a

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Speaker 1: wealth of talent back there and guys that they trust

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Speaker 1: this run game. I watched it against I watched it

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Speaker 1: against the Jets, and I also watched the game today

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Speaker 1: against Atlanta.

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Speaker 3: They lean on it and.

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Speaker 1: It really does exactly for the Panthers what the Bills

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Speaker 1: run game does for Josh and and this offense. It

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Speaker 1: sets up their passing game. It gets guys open in

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Speaker 1: the back end. They have, you know, they got guys

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Speaker 1: running free in the back end because they have to

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Speaker 1: respect the speed and athleticism of the offensive line and

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Speaker 1: the running backs busting up through. They're snapping off some

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Speaker 1: really effective runs and it changes everything for the defense

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Speaker 1: who they're facing. So the Bills have got to, you know,

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Speaker 1: you gotta I hate to see this gap integery. Just

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Speaker 1: tackle the guy, please.

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Speaker 3: Well, you gotta get off blocks to make tackles.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, and you got to know where you're supposed

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Speaker 1: to be, and you got to, you know, play as

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Speaker 1: an eleven man unit. And we'll see the Bills, you know,

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Speaker 1: continue to be a little bit nicked up on that

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Speaker 1: side of all. There's some question marks. Bernard Milano and

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Speaker 1: of course Taylor Rap's not going to be on the field.

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Speaker 1: I mean right down the middle of your defense. You're

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Speaker 1: struggling right now health wise, So yeah, it is a

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Speaker 1: huge collision.

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Speaker 2: Of course, it's not only their identity, but you would

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Speaker 2: expect them to test Buffalo's run defense with the struggles.

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Speaker 3: They have had. Here some numbers for you.

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Speaker 2: Nineteen percent of the runs against the Bills have gained

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Speaker 2: ten yards or more. That is the highest percentage in

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Speaker 2: the league. Forty eight percent of the yardage allowed by

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Speaker 2: Buffalo has been by rushing. That's the highest rate in

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Speaker 2: the league. And the Panthers, believe it or not tough

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Speaker 2: team to get off the field. Only thirteen percent of

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Speaker 2: Carolina's possessions this season have gone three plays and out.

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Speaker 2: That is the second best rate in the league. So

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Speaker 2: Carolina is a sneaky efficient team that you really gotta

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Speaker 2: be mindful of defensively. And as Steve said, it starts

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Speaker 2: with their run game. So it is going to be

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Speaker 2: strength on It's going to be a strength of the

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Speaker 2: Panthers going against the weakness of the Bills.

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Speaker 3: Buffalo's got to get that short up this week. It's critical.

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Speaker 2: So that is collision course presented by Gabe's collision. Let's

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Speaker 2: get back to the phones and waiting patiently there is

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Speaker 2: Scott in four?

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Speaker 3: What's up Scott, Deeve Chris.

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Speaker 9: It's an honor to be on with two Buffalo legends.

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Speaker 3: Thanks. What do you got Scott Hey?

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Speaker 9: So yes, I heard you guys talking about Ted McMillan earlier,

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Speaker 9: and I like him. He's a really smooth young player.

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Speaker 9: But we got a player on our team that's you know,

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Speaker 9: similar measurables and Tyrol Shavers, And I'm just wondering why,

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Speaker 9: you know, they're not a little bit more reliant. I

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Speaker 9: know there was you know, a part of one of

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Speaker 9: the games when he became, like the feature where they

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Speaker 9: tried to get into ball more. But I think they

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Speaker 9: got to trust this young man more. And also I

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Speaker 9: had a question for you guys, why do you think

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Speaker 9: it's so hard for Buffalo to get a screen game

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Speaker 9: going of any sort? Does it not just fit into

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Speaker 9: their style of offense? Like I feel like with the

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Speaker 9: offense that needs to be clean when they're trying to execute,

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Speaker 9: and you know, their margins for air and very slimly

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Speaker 9: because they've had a lot of you know, short down

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Speaker 9: in distances that they haven't gotten either because of a

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Speaker 9: penalty or because you know, just lack of execution. But

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Speaker 9: it just seems like they can never get off the

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Speaker 9: ground with a screen game. And I see these other

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Speaker 9: NFL teams and it's just like, come so look look

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Speaker 9: at Kansas City, you know, like it comes so easy

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Speaker 9: to them.

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Speaker 7: So I'm just wondering, what do you guys think the

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Speaker 7: hold up.

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Speaker 6: Is with that?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll let Steve answer this because in the past

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Speaker 2: he has pointed to Josh being a mobile quarterback as

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Speaker 2: one of the reasons why the screen game struggled every

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Speaker 2: rank because they have extra they have a spy, and.

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Speaker 1: Well, if they have a spy on Josh, you can't

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Speaker 1: run a screen because the screen the spy guys they're

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Speaker 1: looking for stuff like that. He's there to keep Josh

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Speaker 1: in the pocket. And if Josh isn't run, he's gonna

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Speaker 1: notice what's going on in front of him and they'll

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Speaker 1: snap it off. They also, uh for the bills, you'll

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Speaker 1: see a lot of defensive fronts. Even last week when

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Speaker 1: the Atlanta Falcons rushed and blitz Josh, they didn't do

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Speaker 1: too many exes. They just brought extra guys through gaps

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Speaker 1: that they created with the way they rushed. They didn't

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Speaker 1: do x's and cross and stunts, because when you do that,

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Speaker 1: you leave holes in your pocket that you're forming where

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Speaker 1: Josh could step through. All of those things point to

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Speaker 1: the difficulties that of slipping a guy out unknown and

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Speaker 1: being open a straight ahead rush and a spy, and

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Speaker 1: the fact that you've got a mobile quarterback already puts

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Speaker 1: the antenna of the defensive line up, and they're just

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Speaker 1: less susceptible to getting fooled by that.

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Speaker 3: That's what it is. And so Mahomes doesn't.

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Speaker 2: He runs when he absolutely has to, But I don't

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Speaker 2: think he's as willing a runner as Josh, although he

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Speaker 2: has run more this year.

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Speaker 1: You can see this too, Mahome. You know what I'm

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Speaker 1: talking about, Mahome. They find you find different ways around it.

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00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 1: Josh catch throw quick outside, you know, he'll run those

660
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:55,799
Speaker 1: tunnel screens. He'll get a quick release thing on the

661
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage like that. The Chiefs do it a

662
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:00,959
Speaker 1: different way. They'll shovel pass a lot to all five

663
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 1: eligible receivers. Whoever it is, they'll shovel it inside. All

664
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Speaker 1: of that stuff is a response to the difficulty they

665
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Speaker 1: have and running an old fashioned screen. Every team will

666
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 1: have a way around it or a way to get

667
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 1: the ball to the guy in the same kind of

668
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Speaker 1: area with a little bit of space and some blockers.

669
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Speaker 1: But the screens that we're talking about that the Bills

670
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:23,840
Speaker 1: don't run, I think those are the reasons for it.

671
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Speaker 3: And you'll see other.

672
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Speaker 1: Teams have the same problem. Lamar Jackson has that kind

673
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 1: of problem. They'll try and throw it a little bit.

674
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:32,879
Speaker 1: They don't really throw it to Derrick Henry too much,

675
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 1: but you know it's the same thing. They'll quick release

676
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:37,280
Speaker 1: it and throw those tunnel screens or quick release passes

677
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:40,800
Speaker 1: behind the line of scrimmage out wide instead of throwing

678
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 1: the screen passes as a response to the fact that

679
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:46,399
Speaker 1: it's difficult to fool defensive linemen who are already looking

680
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Speaker 1: for something crazy from your quarterback.

681
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Speaker 6: Yeah.

682
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Speaker 2: And then as for Shavers, look, I love Tyrrel Shavers

683
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 2: as much as the next guy. What he has done

684
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 2: to work on his game and carve out a role

685
00:35:56,640 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 2: for himself on this roster is admirable. He's not Ted McMillan, Like,

686
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 2: I don't know any other way to say it. You're

687
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 2: talking about a top ten talent at the position in

688
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:15,319
Speaker 2: the draft this year, and you know, again, I love

689
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 2: Tyrell Shavers McMillan is a different dude. He's got an

690
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:26,800
Speaker 2: uncommon football IQ for a player of his experience level.

691
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 2: He knows where to sit in zones, he knows how

692
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Speaker 2: to exploit those coverages. His timing and spatial awareness is outstanding,

693
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 2: and he's got a great set of hands, and he

694
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 2: can run and he's gigantic. Tyrell Shavers matches up in

695
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 2: terms of height and weight, but I don't think he

696
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 2: does in terms of all of the other facets of

697
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 2: Ted McMillan's game. And that's why Ted McMillan's a top

698
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 2: ten pick and why Tyrel Shavers was an undrafted rookie

699
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 2: free agent when he came out. It's no disrespect, it's

700
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:57,879
Speaker 2: just facts about the talent level.

701
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Speaker 3: They're two different dudes. I'm sorry. Yeah, that's right.

702
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,359
Speaker 2: Let's move along and we go to Bobby on a sale.

703
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Speaker 2: What's up, Bobby?

704
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Speaker 10: Hey, what's going on? Guys is calling in. We're on

705
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:14,840
Speaker 10: our way from uh from Florida to the Carolina area

706
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 10: to see the Bills take on the Panthers. Nice little

707
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 10: nervous about about the game because you know they got

708
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 10: that dual threat with Hubbard and dowd All back there.

709
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 10: Those need to buckle down and stick to the fundamentals

710
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 10: and run the ball down their throat.

711
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is a concern. I don't think there's any

712
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:36,360
Speaker 2: question about that. And save travels to you on your

713
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:39,759
Speaker 2: way up there. We just kind of went over it

714
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 2: in collision course, like they cannot be giving them ten

715
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:47,400
Speaker 2: yard rips in the run game because it's going to

716
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 2: be a very long day. Steve says it all the time.

717
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,799
Speaker 2: If you cannot stop the run, you are powerless as

718
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,839
Speaker 2: a defense because they're just gonna stay on schedule and

719
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 2: pound the living tar out of you for the entire afternoon.

720
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Speaker 3: And you'll never get the ball. I mean they'll if

721
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:02,439
Speaker 3: you do, you won't get it enough.

722
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Speaker 1: Twelve thirteen, fifteen play drives and you you're and they're

723
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Speaker 1: finishing it off and there you sit, you're waiting for

724
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Speaker 1: another kickoff.

725
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Speaker 3: It's a problem.

726
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:18,279
Speaker 1: So we've heard a lot from the media, content from

727
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Speaker 1: the from the interviews, from McDermott, from Josh, from all

728
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 1: these guys during this last week after the buy, is

729
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 1: that they spent some time on some fundamentals. Obviously, tackling

730
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:33,320
Speaker 1: was a big focal point, getting off blocks ass protection,

731
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:38,400
Speaker 1: all of that stuff, durity. Yeah, yeah, lining up on sides,

732
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,880
Speaker 1: all the conversations they needed to have, and the coaching

733
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 1: staff dove deep and you know, did some self evaluation

734
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 1: and probably had some things they did not share with us.

735
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Speaker 1: So yes, I think I think you're right on it, Bobby.

736
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:54,919
Speaker 1: That's that's something that it's important and the team does

737
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 1: it and well, they've been really good at it in

738
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 1: years past. We'll see if they can continue that streak.

739
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:02,879
Speaker 3: Let's squeeze mic In here from Syracuse before the break.

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00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 11: What's up, Mike, Hi, gentlemen, how you guys doing. First,

741
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 11: it was one of the congratulates fee from moving on

742
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:13,400
Speaker 11: in the Hall of Fame selection. I was pretty excited

743
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 11: about that, and I just wanted to make a couple

744
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 11: of quick comments talking about your guys energy in the games.

745
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:25,279
Speaker 11: I I had one small bright spot. I felt like

746
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:27,880
Speaker 11: it came from the Atlanta Games, and you guys can

747
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 11: correct me if I'm wrong. I was kind of just

748
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:34,360
Speaker 11: curious about Shaq Thompson possibly getting the start in this

749
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 11: upcoming game. I know we're light on linebackers. Watching watching

750
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:42,760
Speaker 11: him play, I thought he had some very aggressive tackles

751
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:46,320
Speaker 11: in the game. Unfortunately he missed that pick, but I

752
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:48,800
Speaker 11: also felt like his his instincts in that game, we

753
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 11: were pretty good. He just about had that pick, which

754
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 11: would have obviously changed the trajectory to the game, I think,

755
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 11: and given us a better chance to win. So I

756
00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:00,800
Speaker 11: was curious about you guys thought on him and possibly

757
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 11: getting the start, and then just a lot of stuff

758
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Speaker 11: you guys have been talking about over the last couple

759
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 11: of weeks. I haven't had a chance to call in

760
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 11: as I've been wanting to voice my opinion, but I

761
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 11: will kind of agree that I think the Bills are

762
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:18,320
Speaker 11: a little lighter on overall talent this year. Obviously we

763
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Speaker 11: got Josh and James Cook, who are great, who are

764
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Speaker 11: who are top end guys, But on the receiver corps

765
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Speaker 11: and a few other things, I just feel like we're

766
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Speaker 11: We're as good as you know the some of our

767
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 11: our our parts. I feel like our entire team, you know,

768
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Speaker 11: including Shavers more are tight ends, knocks and kid if

769
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 11: these guys are playing, are very good players. But they

770
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 11: all really need to play well in order for the

771
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Speaker 11: Bills to succeed. We can't have any of those guys,

772
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Speaker 11: you know, two or three of those guys don't have

773
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 11: a good game or drop passes or you know, miss

774
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 11: their blocks, whatever. I just feel as though that just

775
00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:00,879
Speaker 11: drives our overall performance way down because we need those

776
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 11: guys to play well, those very good players, not those

777
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 11: studs like some other teams have, in order for us

778
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Speaker 11: to be successful. So I just wanted to make a

779
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 11: quick comment on that because I feel like against New

780
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:17,320
Speaker 11: England against Atlanta, some of those guys that maybe we

781
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Speaker 11: would consider very good players, not top end players in

782
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:24,280
Speaker 11: the NFL, if they don't play well. I just feel

783
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 11: like the Bills just don't play well at all. That's

784
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 11: just my opinion on it, and that's pretty much my

785
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:33,320
Speaker 11: stuff for the day, and I'll hang up unless.

786
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 3: All right, thanks Mike.

787
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 2: I'll let Steve address the high end talent on the roster.

788
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 2: I'll address Shack Thompson. Shack Thompson also had the force

789
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 2: fumble on the first play of the game. They got

790
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:46,880
Speaker 2: negated by an off sides penalty. That guy had almost

791
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 2: two takeaways in the same game. And I've talked about

792
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:53,240
Speaker 2: it since training camp. When that guy's on the field,

793
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 2: you feel his presence. It is a physical edge and

794
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:01,759
Speaker 2: tone setting style of play that he sets out there,

795
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 2: and it's why when that team goes base defense, they

796
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:07,840
Speaker 2: want him on the field. I mean, for those that

797
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:10,400
Speaker 2: don't know his history, this is a former first round pick.

798
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 2: He's in his tenth season and he had a major

799
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 2: achilles injury last September and he's back from that and

800
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 2: was back within a year and is playing very good

801
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 2: football for the Bills right now. Now does he start?

802
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:28,399
Speaker 2: I think that depends on Bernard and Milano's availability. They're

803
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:30,400
Speaker 2: both going to be listed as questionable for the game,

804
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 2: but when they go base defense, he's on the field

805
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:36,879
Speaker 2: and should be because you know, we've been talking about

806
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 2: tone setters this whole time. That dude's a tone setter,

807
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:42,840
Speaker 2: and him on the field is beneficial not only for

808
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 2: the playmaking ability of this defense, but the energy of

809
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 2: it as well.

810
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 3: So yeah, I think he'll have.

811
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:51,839
Speaker 2: A role, and if Milano and or Bernard are down,

812
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 2: he will start. Because when Bernard went out of the game,

813
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 2: he had the green dot on his helmet for the

814
00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 2: rest of that game calling the plays. Because he's been

815
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 2: in this system for a long time as we know.

816
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 1: Now to the talents, Yeah, you're right, I think you

817
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 1: hit it on the head when they need to bet

818
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 1: to hit on all cylinders. This offense needs all those

819
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:11,360
Speaker 1: cylinders on the field. King Kid's been out for a

820
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:15,840
Speaker 1: couple of weeks, and then as a right Curtis Samuel,

821
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 1: Josh Palmer. Those guys are having trouble standing on the field. Certainly,

822
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 1: Klusha Kiir has been available for the entire season, but

823
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:28,359
Speaker 1: he's maybe the only one in Keon James Cook has

824
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 1: been really good. But you're right, the tight ends and

825
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 1: wide receivers. You need all those guys on the field

826
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 1: for this offense to play their best. When you start

827
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 1: dropping off and getting off those guys out of the

828
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:41,399
Speaker 1: lineup is when they're going to struggle. And I think

829
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:43,840
Speaker 1: they I think that showed in the last couple of games.

830
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:45,760
Speaker 1: Kin Kid needs to be a part of this offense.

831
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 1: They'd need him on the field.

832
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:49,800
Speaker 3: They could really use him on the field.

833
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:51,879
Speaker 1: They could use this week Curtis Samuel on the field

834
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 1: in a more regular way.

835
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:55,400
Speaker 2: They could really use him on the field this week, Steve.

836
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:59,239
Speaker 2: Because the Panthers are thirty second in the league in

837
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 2: defensive eva against tight ends, they have not good coverage

838
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 2: linebackers at the second level. I think that's where they

839
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 2: have to victimize them in the passing game this weekend.

840
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 2: Got to take a break more of your phone calls

841
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 2: when we get back here on one Bill's.

842
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843
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Speaker 2: back to the phone as we go and Tamiran and Richmond,

847
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Speaker 2: what's up?

848
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:51,879
Speaker 3: Miron HOI jelem My fall sure?

849
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Speaker 7: Just had a quick question about turnis Samuel? Where do

850
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 7: you guys see him? Kind of big picture wise? I

851
00:44:57,560 --> 00:45:00,759
Speaker 7: know that we had not been dressed him for it

852
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 7: seems like many weeks now, but you know what, what

853
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 7: is this kind of role in this offense? And you know,

854
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:08,279
Speaker 7: it seems like we just have an overall lack of

855
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 7: speed in the wide receiver room. But then he's you know,

856
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 7: he's built to fans as a speed guy. So you

857
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 7: know what's what's keeping him from getting on the field

858
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 7: is the game playcifit or do they just see someone

859
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:20,719
Speaker 7: they don't like him his game, or just any kind

860
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:23,440
Speaker 7: of information in that regard. And I'm going to be

861
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:25,439
Speaker 7: going I'm gonna be driving down to the Charlotte game

862
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 7: on Sunday, so hopefully we'll have a good performance.

863
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:28,319
Speaker 3: Yeah.

864
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 2: Uh, safe travels and getting down there, and thanks for

865
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:35,439
Speaker 2: the call. I will say that I think people see that, oh,

866
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 2: Curtis Samuel ran a four to three one forty, he's

867
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:40,839
Speaker 2: super fast, which he is, but then they don't see

868
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 2: him getting behind the defense. I think it's mostly because

869
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:47,320
Speaker 2: he's not asked to run those routes more often than not.

870
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 2: Not a tall receiver, and Joe Brady traditionally has used

871
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:54,920
Speaker 2: him in the short to intermediate area, relying on him

872
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:57,399
Speaker 2: to get yards after the catch more than anything else.

873
00:45:57,440 --> 00:45:58,360
Speaker 3: With Palmer out of.

874
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:01,240
Speaker 2: The lineup, though, Steve, I don't think it's a terrible

875
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 2: idea to line him up outside wide. Maybe put Coleman

876
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 2: in the slot and see if you can get some

877
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:09,880
Speaker 2: different kind of production from both of them.

878
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll be interesting to see if they come up

879
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 1: with anything like that after the bye week. We've talked

880
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 1: about it at length. You know, we're and we're just

881
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 1: we throw stuff up against the wall to see if

882
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 1: it sticks. We don't really have any inside as to

883
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 1: what they really think. We've talked to all the people

884
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 1: we know Brownie and I outside the building, like you know,

885
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:31,320
Speaker 1: the analyst and other guys like Dan Orlovski and that

886
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 1: kind of thing about putting keyon Coleman in the slot

887
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:35,359
Speaker 1: because he's a big dude, give him a two way

888
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:39,120
Speaker 1: go make separations a little easier down inside. And the

889
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:40,759
Speaker 1: problem with that you start getting into what do you

890
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 1: do with Khalil Shakir if you go double slots. Now

891
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 1: you're talking four wides with one back, and you got

892
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:49,280
Speaker 1: to have either tight end or a running back outside

893
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:52,319
Speaker 1: of one of those guys or another wide out. So

894
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:55,439
Speaker 1: then you start to have to make personnel decisions about

895
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 1: who's on the field and who's not, you know, kind

896
00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:00,120
Speaker 1: of go down that rabbit hole trying to find a

897
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:02,720
Speaker 1: way to get a guy the ball in some space,

898
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:08,839
Speaker 1: and quite frankly, the coaching staff might find it more easy,

899
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 1: an easier way to get the ball to somebody else,

900
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 1: not having to jump through those fiery hoops to get

901
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 1: the guy one target. So all that's on the table,

902
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 1: you can bet, because they don't want to go out

903
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:23,439
Speaker 1: and have another outing like they had against Atlanta where

904
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:26,799
Speaker 1: they the blitz got them. They had their protection set wrong,

905
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 1: and nobody was open, and Josh couldn't didn't have time

906
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:32,920
Speaker 1: to throw it, couldn't scramble. It really looked like their

907
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:35,440
Speaker 1: offense was up against it in Atlanta. They didn't want

908
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 1: to have a repeat of that. So they will have

909
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 1: some answers for all of those things that we've been

910
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 1: talking about. And I don't know that they're going to

911
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:46,360
Speaker 1: move Keyon Coleman around at all, but they are going

912
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 1: to use Curtis Samuel. They really have to. Now that

913
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:50,839
Speaker 1: Josh Palmer's out of the lineup. I mean, Samuel's next

914
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 1: man up. They need him to play a bigger role

915
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:55,400
Speaker 1: and you can bet he'll see more targets because of it.

916
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 2: Or do you see more of Shavers outside? If you

917
00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 2: want to move Coleman inside, that's another option your disposal,

918
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 2: a tall angular wide out. You know that you can

919
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:06,400
Speaker 2: drop it in the bucket too. So it'll be interesting

920
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:09,359
Speaker 2: to see what subtle changes this offense makes coming out

921
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:11,439
Speaker 2: of the By going forward, break time for us here

922
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:14,480
Speaker 2: when we begin our number two. You know who usually

923
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 2: joins us on Fridays during the regular season. NFL Film

924
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 2: Senior producer Greg co Sell gonna be by and talk

925
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:26,439
Speaker 2: xes and o's about this upcoming Bills Panthers matchup. Greg

926
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Speaker 2: co sell next on One Bill's Lives.

927
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 3: These One Bill's Live presented by Calllida.

928
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:06,840
Speaker 2: Help all right back here for hour number two on

929
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Speaker 2: a Friday, and that can only mean one thing. Senior

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00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:12,439
Speaker 2: producer from NFL Films, Greg co Sale joining us, also

931
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:16,239
Speaker 2: co host of ESPN's NFL Matchup Show, and Greg Cosale's

932
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:19,640
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933
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:22,400
Speaker 2: Pepsi is the official soft drink of the Buffalo Bill's

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935
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Speaker 3: Pepsi.

936
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Speaker 2: All right, Greg, Bill's coming off the bye Here they

937
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 2: are eight no under McDermott, coming off the bye, but

938
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 2: they're facing a Carolina team that has won three straight

939
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:40,440
Speaker 2: unbeaten at home. So I guess on the surface, I

940
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:44,440
Speaker 2: want to start with the task that Buffalo's run defense

941
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:46,759
Speaker 2: is going to have with what has now become a

942
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 2: two headed monster with Hubbard and Dowbdell. I don't know

943
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:54,920
Speaker 2: about you, but I was stunned. And I understand that

944
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 2: Dave Canalis has to walk the line here a little

945
00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:59,719
Speaker 2: bit because Hubbard is a respected veteran in that locker room.

946
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 2: But the way Dowdell has performed since he moved into

947
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 2: the starting lineup when Hubbard was out injured. I don't

948
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 2: know how Dowdell is not getting one hundred percent of

949
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:12,399
Speaker 2: the work with as productive as he has been.

950
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:19,440
Speaker 6: I can't answer that, Brownie, he's been dynamic, I can answer, yeah, no,

951
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:23,480
Speaker 6: he certainly. Look the two games prior, what did he

952
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 6: have four hundred and eighty three I think it was

953
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 6: total yards.

954
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:27,280
Speaker 3: Yeah.

955
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 6: The last time that had happened or something like that

956
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:32,920
Speaker 6: had happened was I think twenty eleven.

957
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:34,719
Speaker 3: Do you know the fact that that did that was

958
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:35,800
Speaker 3: that Adrian Peterson.

959
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 6: Nope, No, It's a name that appeared to be moving

960
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 6: toward greatness and then made a very bad decision.

961
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 1: Chris Johnson or who no, Le'Veon Bell? Oh yeah, gosh, yeah, yeah,

962
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:54,399
Speaker 1: well there you go.

963
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:58,400
Speaker 6: Yeah. But anyway, Yeah, I can't speak to what's in

964
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:01,719
Speaker 6: Dave Canalis's head, but clearly the foundation of what they

965
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:04,400
Speaker 6: have to do on offense, and it appears that it

966
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:07,279
Speaker 6: will be Andy Dalton, who I gotta be honest with you,

967
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:10,959
Speaker 6: I think he's a little more concerning than Bryce Young.

968
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 6: But that's just my sense of it.

969
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:17,359
Speaker 1: I said the same thing to Brownie, I'm all over that.

970
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:20,439
Speaker 1: He's You're gonna have a hard time fooling him. He's

971
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:23,480
Speaker 1: not as athletic as Bryce Young, no question, but he

972
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 1: knows how to use the kind of receivers that the

973
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers have. I mean he can, I think, I

974
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:33,959
Speaker 1: mean I haven't seen him through. His ability to see

975
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:38,560
Speaker 1: it and throw the ball I think is better than

976
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:39,920
Speaker 1: Bryce Young's right now.

977
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:42,839
Speaker 6: I would agree with that. And you know, Young, for

978
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:46,080
Speaker 6: what his traits are given his size, doesn't have a

979
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 6: big arm. He's played well, no question. It looks like

980
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 6: he's an incrementally improving player. But Andy Dalton's been in

981
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:56,879
Speaker 6: the league, He's seen everything. I'm sure he's very, very

982
00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 6: familiar with the Sean McDermott defense. And I'm not sure

983
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:02,440
Speaker 6: he's gonna throw for three fifty guys. I'm just saying

984
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:05,960
Speaker 6: that you're dealing with a veteran quarterback who you know,

985
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:08,720
Speaker 6: he's not going to be seeing things he's never seen before.

986
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 6: And if he can get into a rhythm, he can

987
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:13,759
Speaker 6: make throws. And they do not have a bad receiving corps.

988
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:16,360
Speaker 6: I've been very impressed with the McMillan kid. He's essentially

989
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 6: their boundary X. And you know when he came out,

990
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:23,399
Speaker 6: you know, you know how it is when there's big

991
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:27,359
Speaker 6: receivers that come out, we all make comparisons. And right

992
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 6: away the comparison was made to Drake London, who's with

993
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:32,840
Speaker 6: the Falcons, and obviously you guys just played recently and

994
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:36,440
Speaker 6: you know he's a good player and obviously was a

995
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:39,520
Speaker 6: problem for you guys. But I thought just watching him,

996
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 6: watching McMillan with his college tape, relative to what let's

997
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:48,080
Speaker 6: say London was coming out, I thought, McMillan's just a smoother,

998
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:52,440
Speaker 6: better mover. And he's not justin Jefferson, but I thought

999
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:56,840
Speaker 6: on the spectrum of receivers that he moved more to

1000
00:52:57,080 --> 00:53:00,160
Speaker 6: that side of the of the middle line than to

1001
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 6: the London side. And we're looking at highlights and you

1002
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:05,319
Speaker 6: can see that he is a very good mover and

1003
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:06,640
Speaker 6: he's a little bit of a concern.

1004
00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:11,399
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, there is athletics fluidity to him. I'm

1005
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 2: just I'm just concerned about the overall size of the

1006
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 2: receiving corps. I personally, I think Buffalo's corners, at least

1007
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:23,960
Speaker 2: as their constitutor right now, might prefer a more physical

1008
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 2: matchup than one built on speed, you know, and breakaway ability.

1009
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:30,759
Speaker 2: So maybe this is a better matchup, but it's hard

1010
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:34,560
Speaker 2: to ignore, you know, Ted McMillan six four two twenty

1011
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:39,840
Speaker 2: UH Jalen Kocher sixty three two thirteen Xavier League at

1012
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:44,120
Speaker 2: UH six three two twenty five like. And then the

1013
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:47,319
Speaker 2: tight ends are even bigger with Jatavian Sanders, you know,

1014
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 2: and Tommy Tremble like. There is size and physicality across

1015
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:53,399
Speaker 2: the board in the passing game.

1016
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:57,640
Speaker 6: Without question. This is they're not an easy team to

1017
00:53:57,680 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 6: play against, UH. And you know, we think of that

1018
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 6: because of what they've done in the last number of

1019
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:05,920
Speaker 6: years is just being a bad team. But right now

1020
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 6: they're playing pretty good football. They're staying in games. Their

1021
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:14,239
Speaker 6: defense has played pretty well as well. So you know,

1022
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 6: it's funny bye weeks to me and you're in the

1023
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:19,759
Speaker 6: building and Brownie, obviously you do the game, so you know,

1024
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:22,320
Speaker 6: I'm sure you're able to have conversations at times just

1025
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:25,960
Speaker 6: because you need to know what's going on. I would

1026
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 6: look at this bye week as being much more about

1027
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:30,960
Speaker 6: the Bills than about the opponent. Now I'm not saying

1028
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:33,360
Speaker 6: that they're not studying the opponent, believe me. You always

1029
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:35,320
Speaker 6: do that in the NFL. We know how it works.

1030
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:38,120
Speaker 6: But you know, I think that this really needed to

1031
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:39,880
Speaker 6: be about the bills because I think there are some

1032
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:43,880
Speaker 6: things that I don't want to say need to be changed.

1033
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:48,239
Speaker 6: That's not the right word, But you know what, I'm

1034
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:50,720
Speaker 6: struggling with, guys, and you tell me how you feel.

1035
00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 6: I don't think this past game is anywhere near conceptually

1036
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 6: what it needs to be. I think it's very short.

1037
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:05,240
Speaker 6: It's very short intermediate. It's there's no real intermediate pass

1038
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:08,640
Speaker 6: game to really write home about. I mean, you've got

1039
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 6: the most gifted quarterback in the league, and I feel

1040
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:13,520
Speaker 6: like he's being held back. And it's one thing to

1041
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:15,840
Speaker 6: say we don't want any turnovers. I get that, and

1042
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 6: it obviously worked last year with he was the MVP

1043
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 6: only through six interceptions. But I just feel like there's

1044
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:25,040
Speaker 6: more in this pass game that needs to be developed.

1045
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 2: So what do you think it is devoid of? What

1046
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:30,839
Speaker 2: kind of concepts is this offense devoid of?

1047
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 3: In your opinion?

1048
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:33,719
Speaker 2: Are we talking like flood concess what what are we

1049
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:34,120
Speaker 2: looking at?

1050
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:38,279
Speaker 6: Yeah? Things like that, things that attack moret at the

1051
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:41,080
Speaker 6: intermediate area, the vertical area, and by vertical. I don't

1052
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:43,880
Speaker 6: mean dropping back to throwing sixty yard bombs. You know

1053
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:47,560
Speaker 6: when I say vertical, I mean you know, you know

1054
00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:50,359
Speaker 6: you never see in this offense. And again, you can

1055
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:52,839
Speaker 6: talk about receivers all day long. People listening might think, well,

1056
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:56,040
Speaker 6: we don't have great receivers in Buffalo. That's that's fine.

1057
00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:59,239
Speaker 6: If you're playing a high percentage man defense, man to

1058
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:02,319
Speaker 6: man defense, you feel like your guys can't separate one

1059
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:05,680
Speaker 6: on one. But again, zone to me, because I've seen

1060
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:07,839
Speaker 6: it throughout the league over the years. You know, I've

1061
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:09,719
Speaker 6: been doing this for a long time. Where you have

1062
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 6: route concepts and combinations that attack zone coverages where you

1063
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:17,920
Speaker 6: expand them horizontally, you stretch them vertically, you find the

1064
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:20,799
Speaker 6: stress points and the voids and zone coverage. You never

1065
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:23,240
Speaker 6: see a deep dig in the in the Bills offense.

1066
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:24,959
Speaker 6: I can't recall the last time I saw a deep

1067
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:28,000
Speaker 6: dig thrown. You know, maybe once digs was there, but

1068
00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:31,319
Speaker 6: I can't recall one in recent years where they threw

1069
00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:33,600
Speaker 6: a deep dig like you see with the Lions all

1070
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 6: the time. You know, those kinds of route concepts and combinations,

1071
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:40,360
Speaker 6: and you know, like I said, you've got a quarterback

1072
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:43,040
Speaker 6: that is so gifted in terms of throwing the football.

1073
00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:45,960
Speaker 6: I feel like they're holding him back at times. You know,

1074
00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:49,360
Speaker 6: they throw all those short routes and then expect run after.

1075
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:53,239
Speaker 1: Catch, right, And one of the is it possible that

1076
00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:55,600
Speaker 1: the philosophy of this offense and the way they're coordinated

1077
00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:59,160
Speaker 1: is a little bit of a reaction to a defense

1078
00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:02,480
Speaker 1: that's trying to struggled a little bit trying to keep

1079
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:06,319
Speaker 1: this offense on the field shortened the game knowing that

1080
00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:08,920
Speaker 1: with Josh out there, they're going to have expectation, an

1081
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:11,640
Speaker 1: expectation to be efficient and score on more drives than

1082
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:14,960
Speaker 1: their opponent does. And if their opponent hiccups once on

1083
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:17,560
Speaker 1: their own, even if their defense can't stop them, they're

1084
00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:20,520
Speaker 1: gonna lose the game. Is that a possibility about, you know,

1085
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:21,840
Speaker 1: going deeper.

1086
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:24,680
Speaker 6: It could be. I mean, look, you want to play

1087
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:27,880
Speaker 6: complimentary football, and I think we would probably all three

1088
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:30,720
Speaker 6: of us agree that the defense hasn't consistently played to

1089
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:33,080
Speaker 6: the level that they'd like it to play, and hope

1090
00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:37,960
Speaker 6: that it gets to play. But the problem is, and

1091
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:40,880
Speaker 6: Steve you certainly know this. I mean, you know, then

1092
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:43,560
Speaker 6: you start playing all these close games, and you know,

1093
00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:48,480
Speaker 6: close games that becomes hard because one play here and

1094
00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:50,480
Speaker 6: there in the third or fourth quarter, and all of

1095
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:52,439
Speaker 6: a sudden, it seems like the game gets away from

1096
00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:53,120
Speaker 6: you a little bit.

1097
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:54,160
Speaker 8: You know.

1098
00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:56,720
Speaker 6: Look, even when they beat New Orleans, it just seems

1099
00:57:56,720 --> 00:57:58,600
Speaker 6: and again I'm not no knock on New Orleans. You know,

1100
00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:01,320
Speaker 6: obviously they've only won I think one game, but you know,

1101
00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:04,240
Speaker 6: that game seemed like it had a closer feel to

1102
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:06,520
Speaker 6: it than the final score. And then of course they

1103
00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:08,920
Speaker 6: lose two in a row, and it just seems like

1104
00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:12,480
Speaker 6: these games are too tight, you know, And sometimes that

1105
00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:15,920
Speaker 6: happens in the NFL. But I understand your point, and

1106
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:17,960
Speaker 6: they could be thinking that. They could be thinking that

1107
00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:20,480
Speaker 6: it's more important to control the pace and tempo of

1108
00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:25,240
Speaker 6: the games and and sort of compensate and camouflage our

1109
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:28,640
Speaker 6: defensive defensive deficiencies then feel like we have to go

1110
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:31,400
Speaker 6: out and score. But I just feel like maybe I'm

1111
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:33,560
Speaker 6: old school in that way, you know, Steve, you know,

1112
00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:36,240
Speaker 6: and obviously you played with a team in your day

1113
00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:37,880
Speaker 6: where you just went out and scored, you know.

1114
00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:39,560
Speaker 3: I mean, it's easy enough to do that.

1115
00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:42,080
Speaker 1: If you can do that, it's fine in the first second,

1116
00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:44,320
Speaker 1: first half, and maybe the first half of the third quarter.

1117
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:46,840
Speaker 1: But if you get out there, then then start thinking

1118
00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:48,880
Speaker 1: about shortening the game in the second half as the

1119
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:51,760
Speaker 1: game develops. Don't do it like out of the jump.

1120
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:54,520
Speaker 1: One other thing I wanted to ask you about Oguinjoebe

1121
00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:57,720
Speaker 1: and Michael Hoyt are coming back onto the roster, yeah,

1122
00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:01,560
Speaker 1: and we're going to get to them. But one thing

1123
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:06,040
Speaker 1: I want to ask you. Max Harriston is a fast, athletic,

1124
00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:08,360
Speaker 1: elite athlete and Brownie and I have watched him since

1125
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:10,880
Speaker 1: training camp and even in his rehabilitation here is he's

1126
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:13,440
Speaker 1: working to get back on the field. Give us an

1127
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:17,320
Speaker 1: idea and maybe Bills fans an idea of what if

1128
00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:19,160
Speaker 1: he turns out to be this number one draft pick

1129
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:22,720
Speaker 1: and it is a really really good corner and plays

1130
00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:25,640
Speaker 1: to his strengths. How big a difference can he make

1131
00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:27,560
Speaker 1: if he does step on the field and become that.

1132
00:59:29,080 --> 00:59:29,240
Speaker 3: Well.

1133
00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:31,560
Speaker 6: I really liked his tape. I watched him for two years.

1134
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:33,400
Speaker 6: I know he missed a little time in college as

1135
00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:37,600
Speaker 6: well when he got hurt at Kentucky, but I really

1136
00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:40,440
Speaker 6: liked his college tape and I really like his traits.

1137
00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:43,760
Speaker 6: I mean, you're dealing with a guy that is you

1138
00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:46,320
Speaker 6: know he played boundary corner at Kentucky. For the most part,

1139
00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:50,680
Speaker 6: I thought that he was really strong in his own coverage,

1140
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:52,640
Speaker 6: and I'm sure that's one reason they wanted to draft

1141
00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:54,480
Speaker 6: him and did draft him. I thought he had a

1142
00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:57,720
Speaker 6: great sense of pattern recognition and spatial awareness. I thought

1143
00:59:57,760 --> 01:00:00,160
Speaker 6: he had a great feel for the conflict areas that

1144
01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:02,920
Speaker 6: that are at heron and his own. I thought that

1145
01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:06,400
Speaker 6: he did have some strong snapshots of playing mirror match

1146
01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:09,560
Speaker 6: press man coverage. He certainly has the athletic and physical

1147
01:00:09,560 --> 01:00:12,920
Speaker 6: traits to do that. I really like him a lot.

1148
01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:15,360
Speaker 6: Now again, is he is he going to play this week?

1149
01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:16,760
Speaker 3: Right now?

1150
01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:17,840
Speaker 1: Bill On?

1151
01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:20,560
Speaker 2: I are, But he looked good. He looked like he

1152
01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:23,160
Speaker 2: was moving well in practice this week. I mean, we'll see.

1153
01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:26,400
Speaker 2: They have an open roster spot right now that they

1154
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:29,000
Speaker 2: have not yet utilized. So I think there's a decision

1155
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:31,560
Speaker 2: to be made there here as we move into the weekend.

1156
01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:36,920
Speaker 6: Nothing concrete yet, right Well, I assume I would assume

1157
01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:39,200
Speaker 6: that when he is healthy, he's going to start. That

1158
01:00:39,240 --> 01:00:41,200
Speaker 6: would be my guess. He was a first round pick,

1159
01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:45,720
Speaker 6: and you know, he fits what their defense is, so

1160
01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:48,200
Speaker 6: we'll see how that plays out. But I really liked

1161
01:00:48,280 --> 01:00:49,439
Speaker 6: him coming out quite a bit.

1162
01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:49,840
Speaker 2: You know.

1163
01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:52,120
Speaker 6: The only concern that you had with him, and it's

1164
01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:54,440
Speaker 6: funny you started out browning by talking about the size

1165
01:00:54,760 --> 01:00:57,880
Speaker 6: of the receivers for the Panthers is that he's five

1166
01:00:57,920 --> 01:00:59,680
Speaker 6: to eleven and one eighty three. That's you know, that's

1167
01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:02,680
Speaker 6: what he us at the combine. But other than that,

1168
01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:06,600
Speaker 6: I thought his traits were really really good in terms

1169
01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:09,840
Speaker 6: of zone and he definitely can play man as well,

1170
01:01:09,880 --> 01:01:12,320
Speaker 6: but I thought he was really strong as his own corner.

1171
01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:14,760
Speaker 2: All right, let's talk about the return to Hoyt and

1172
01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:17,320
Speaker 2: Oguin Joby. Ogunjobi looks like he's gonna slide right in

1173
01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:20,400
Speaker 2: for Daikwan Jones, although he may not start. Maybe it's

1174
01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:24,160
Speaker 2: Dion Walker instead, but Ogunjoby's going to be a part

1175
01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:26,560
Speaker 2: of that rotation right off the rip with Jones out

1176
01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:30,720
Speaker 2: this week with the calf injury. But Hoyt was the

1177
01:01:30,760 --> 01:01:33,480
Speaker 2: signing that they had been going. They've been tracking him

1178
01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:37,000
Speaker 2: for two years before they signed him this offseason in

1179
01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:39,960
Speaker 2: free agency, and they want to use him as a

1180
01:01:40,040 --> 01:01:43,240
Speaker 2: movable chess piece. Now that he's not the same weight

1181
01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:45,200
Speaker 2: that he was three or four years ago, he's down

1182
01:01:45,200 --> 01:01:49,160
Speaker 2: around two sixty, so how versatile. Do you see him

1183
01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:52,920
Speaker 2: as a front seven movable chess piece, Greg.

1184
01:01:53,960 --> 01:01:56,760
Speaker 6: Well, that's the way he was deployed with the Rams, Brownie.

1185
01:01:56,520 --> 01:02:00,760
Speaker 6: And it'll be interesting because that's normally not the way

1186
01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:03,960
Speaker 6: that the Bills played defense. You know, they pretty much

1187
01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:07,240
Speaker 6: are a straight four man D line defense. They don't

1188
01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:10,760
Speaker 6: have a ton of moveable pieces on that defense in

1189
01:02:10,840 --> 01:02:13,240
Speaker 6: terms of guys that play in a three point stance

1190
01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:15,680
Speaker 6: and two point stance. That's what I mean. So you

1191
01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:17,800
Speaker 6: know obviously, Now let me ask you a question. When

1192
01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:20,000
Speaker 6: he was suspended, is he allowed to practice?

1193
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:23,240
Speaker 2: He gets to practice the last couple of weeks of

1194
01:02:23,280 --> 01:02:25,760
Speaker 2: the suspension. Yeah, he comes back into the building after

1195
01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:26,440
Speaker 2: four weeks.

1196
01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:30,280
Speaker 6: Okay, so he's been able to practice for two weeks.

1197
01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:32,880
Speaker 3: Not and they just had he's been with the team.

1198
01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:36,960
Speaker 2: He can't be on the practice field with them for

1199
01:02:37,040 --> 01:02:39,920
Speaker 2: the until the suspensions. Yeah, but he could be in

1200
01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:42,000
Speaker 2: the building and he can train and whatever.

1201
01:02:42,080 --> 01:02:44,920
Speaker 6: Okay, Well, the point I'm trying to get at is,

1202
01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:48,000
Speaker 6: and I think you guys agree, that's normally not stylistically

1203
01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:50,120
Speaker 6: how the Bills play defense now the way he was

1204
01:02:50,120 --> 01:02:53,080
Speaker 6: deployed with Rams. So I'm very curious. I don't know

1205
01:02:53,120 --> 01:02:56,960
Speaker 6: the answer to this question, how they specifically are going

1206
01:02:57,000 --> 01:02:59,560
Speaker 6: to use him as a movable chess piece, because that's

1207
01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:02,080
Speaker 6: what he he's really best at. You know, he's kind

1208
01:03:02,080 --> 01:03:04,959
Speaker 6: of a movement player. He can line up on the ball,

1209
01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:06,959
Speaker 6: he can line up off the ball. He can play

1210
01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:08,800
Speaker 6: with his hand in the ground, he can play in

1211
01:03:08,840 --> 01:03:11,360
Speaker 6: a two point stance. He can be used as kind

1212
01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:13,520
Speaker 6: of a joker at the second level and rush the

1213
01:03:13,600 --> 01:03:16,840
Speaker 6: quarterback in different ways. He can drop into coverage. So

1214
01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:20,840
Speaker 6: this is not the way normally this team plays defense.

1215
01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:23,800
Speaker 6: So I'm very curious because, look, they, like you said, Brownie,

1216
01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:25,920
Speaker 6: they were tracking him for two years. They have to

1217
01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:27,880
Speaker 6: have a plan for him. He's not just going to

1218
01:03:27,960 --> 01:03:29,440
Speaker 6: line up with his hand in the ground as a

1219
01:03:29,480 --> 01:03:32,520
Speaker 6: defensive end and say rush the quarterback. You know, that's

1220
01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:35,640
Speaker 6: they have to have a plan, and I'm sure they do.

1221
01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:38,120
Speaker 6: I certainly don't know what it is. And I'm very

1222
01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:39,680
Speaker 6: anxious to see how he's deployed.

1223
01:03:40,880 --> 01:03:44,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so are we, And we're kind of we've

1224
01:03:44,120 --> 01:03:46,920
Speaker 1: been looking forward to this, maybe helping the defense shift

1225
01:03:46,920 --> 01:03:48,400
Speaker 1: gears a little bit, get a little better in the

1226
01:03:48,440 --> 01:03:51,120
Speaker 1: run game, a little better in their pass rush, which

1227
01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:53,840
Speaker 1: you know, the ripple effects maybe felt, you know, even

1228
01:03:53,880 --> 01:03:55,800
Speaker 1: on the offensive side of the balls. We talked about

1229
01:03:56,040 --> 01:03:59,479
Speaker 1: playing complimentary football. I want to ask you a little

1230
01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:01,600
Speaker 1: bit about what the Bills went through just before they

1231
01:04:01,640 --> 01:04:02,760
Speaker 1: started the bye week.

1232
01:04:03,240 --> 01:04:05,920
Speaker 3: It's been rare that they have an outing where they

1233
01:04:05,960 --> 01:04:07,800
Speaker 3: look as.

1234
01:04:09,600 --> 01:04:13,200
Speaker 1: Looks as bad as they did offensively against the Atlanta Falcons.

1235
01:04:13,280 --> 01:04:16,560
Speaker 1: Fourteen points is an aberration for this team. It's a

1236
01:04:16,600 --> 01:04:19,880
Speaker 1: thirty point a week offense, and they only scored two

1237
01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:23,400
Speaker 1: touchdowns against at Atlanta defense. And it looked like Josh

1238
01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:26,240
Speaker 1: wasn't seeing it. It looked like they had pressure on him.

1239
01:04:26,240 --> 01:04:28,200
Speaker 1: It looked like he hadn't didn't have any room to run.

1240
01:04:28,240 --> 01:04:30,880
Speaker 1: They couldn't find anybody open. And what could you protect? Yeah,

1241
01:04:30,920 --> 01:04:33,480
Speaker 1: they couldn't protect. What was your thoughts about how that

1242
01:04:33,560 --> 01:04:37,560
Speaker 1: Atlanta team beat the Bills like they did, particularly on

1243
01:04:37,600 --> 01:04:41,360
Speaker 1: the offensive side, And is Carolina get to get a

1244
01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:42,080
Speaker 1: blueprint from that?

1245
01:04:43,840 --> 01:04:47,560
Speaker 6: Well? Number one, I'm not necessarily a blueprint guy. I

1246
01:04:47,560 --> 01:04:51,280
Speaker 6: don't think that. You know, Atlanta. Atlanta was a team

1247
01:04:51,560 --> 01:04:56,000
Speaker 6: coming into that game that we just so the last

1248
01:04:56,000 --> 01:04:58,160
Speaker 6: game they played obviously was Week six, right, that was

1249
01:04:58,360 --> 01:05:00,400
Speaker 6: the game, right because we just played weak seven. They

1250
01:05:00,440 --> 01:05:04,840
Speaker 6: didn't play. So Atlanta was a team that played that

1251
01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:07,720
Speaker 6: blitzed a ton. I think they had the highest blitz

1252
01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:11,240
Speaker 6: percentage in the league going into that game. And you know,

1253
01:05:11,320 --> 01:05:14,240
Speaker 6: I think that they played a ton of man coverage.

1254
01:05:14,600 --> 01:05:18,320
Speaker 6: And there's no question all this caused a problem Atlanta

1255
01:05:18,640 --> 01:05:20,800
Speaker 6: up to Up to that point of the season, I

1256
01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:23,040
Speaker 6: thought that Jeff Obrick had done the best job of

1257
01:05:23,080 --> 01:05:26,560
Speaker 6: any defensive quarter I had seen in creating free hitters

1258
01:05:26,560 --> 01:05:29,480
Speaker 6: at the quarterback. And you saw that on the the

1259
01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:32,120
Speaker 6: Alfred sack on third and eight early in the second quarter.

1260
01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:35,280
Speaker 6: The way they structured their fronts, I mean, it just

1261
01:05:35,840 --> 01:05:38,840
Speaker 6: it just seemed like they were able to generate pressure,

1262
01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:42,000
Speaker 6: you know, with with blitz, even though if you just

1263
01:05:42,040 --> 01:05:46,120
Speaker 6: look at Allen's numbers versus blitz, they weren't terrible, but

1264
01:05:46,680 --> 01:05:50,040
Speaker 6: he was sacked three times. And here's what I typed guys,

1265
01:05:50,080 --> 01:05:51,919
Speaker 6: and it goes back to the conversation we had five

1266
01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:54,240
Speaker 6: minutes ago. I said Bill's passing game was not a

1267
01:05:54,240 --> 01:05:57,240
Speaker 6: big factor in the game. They had no structured intermediate

1268
01:05:57,280 --> 01:06:00,800
Speaker 6: passing game, which has been a continuing issue. And you know,

1269
01:06:00,880 --> 01:06:05,160
Speaker 6: I guess my question is, and if Joe Brady was

1270
01:06:05,160 --> 01:06:07,640
Speaker 6: listening maybe he tell me I'm totally wrong, and I'd

1271
01:06:07,640 --> 01:06:10,200
Speaker 6: love to be totally wrong, but I just didn't feel

1272
01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:13,160
Speaker 6: like watching that game. They had a lot of answers

1273
01:06:13,160 --> 01:06:15,440
Speaker 6: for what they were getting. Did you guys feel the

1274
01:06:15,480 --> 01:06:16,720
Speaker 6: same way exactly?

1275
01:06:16,800 --> 01:06:18,760
Speaker 1: Yes, Yeah, it felt exactly the same way.

1276
01:06:20,120 --> 01:06:22,040
Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't know. And again I'm not.

1277
01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:23,560
Speaker 6: Gonna be with here and say that's good or bad.

1278
01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:26,840
Speaker 6: I never say anything negative about coaches because I've been

1279
01:06:26,840 --> 01:06:29,320
Speaker 6: around too many training camps and I know how hard

1280
01:06:29,360 --> 01:06:31,720
Speaker 6: everybody works, So I never say, oh, they did a

1281
01:06:31,760 --> 01:06:35,440
Speaker 6: bad job. You know, sometimes games snowball and sometimes you

1282
01:06:35,560 --> 01:06:38,240
Speaker 6: just can't find a rhythm. And you know, Steve, you

1283
01:06:38,480 --> 01:06:40,200
Speaker 6: know exactly what I'm talking about. I'm sure you were

1284
01:06:40,240 --> 01:06:43,200
Speaker 6: part of games like that where for whatever reason, it

1285
01:06:43,400 --> 01:06:46,120
Speaker 6: just you're not comfortable, you know, pretty much right from

1286
01:06:46,120 --> 01:06:48,320
Speaker 6: the start and you just can't seem to find a

1287
01:06:48,360 --> 01:06:50,000
Speaker 6: comfort level and it just snowballs.

1288
01:06:50,840 --> 01:06:52,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's easy to get snowballed, believe me.

1289
01:06:52,680 --> 01:06:58,240
Speaker 2: I think also we were a little surprised because Josh

1290
01:06:58,240 --> 01:07:00,760
Speaker 2: has got such a high football I Q. Usually he

1291
01:07:01,040 --> 01:07:05,880
Speaker 2: and McGovern have those protections pretty buttoned up, and even

1292
01:07:05,920 --> 01:07:09,040
Speaker 2: if he has a free rusher coming, he generally knows

1293
01:07:09,080 --> 01:07:12,040
Speaker 2: where that free rusher is coming from pre snap right

1294
01:07:12,120 --> 01:07:14,960
Speaker 2: and adjusts before he even has the ball in his hands,

1295
01:07:15,280 --> 01:07:18,120
Speaker 2: and it seemed like he was really caught off guard.

1296
01:07:18,560 --> 01:07:22,320
Speaker 2: And to your point about Ulbrich, Josh Allen has had

1297
01:07:22,440 --> 01:07:25,400
Speaker 2: four games in which he has been sacked at least

1298
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Speaker 2: three times and has had two turnovers four games in

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Speaker 2: his career, three of them have been against Olbrich.

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Speaker 6: Well, that's the fact that I did not know. And

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Speaker 6: that's a great point because you know, they rushed five

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01:07:40,280 --> 01:07:43,080
Speaker 6: or more on eighteen of his thirty four dropbacks. That's

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01:07:43,120 --> 01:07:46,880
Speaker 6: fifty three percent. And you know you're one hundred percent right.

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Speaker 6: And what Albrick does, Like I said, I mean, they

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01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:53,320
Speaker 6: were just three hitters that Josh was. I mean that

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01:07:53,480 --> 01:07:56,040
Speaker 6: that blitz that I mentioned by Alfred where they actually

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01:07:56,040 --> 01:07:59,680
Speaker 6: brought Diablo too, both from the backside. I guess they

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Speaker 6: both through the b gap. Josh was clearly surprised by that,

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Speaker 6: and I was surprised that he was surprised. Let's put

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Speaker 6: it that way. That's where we were, you know, Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 6: So that game, it just it was it was just

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Speaker 6: one of those games. It just I mean, I don't know,

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Speaker 6: I don't know what to make you because you're You're right,

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01:08:20,520 --> 01:08:22,960
Speaker 6: you don't normally see Josh Allen look like that, and

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01:08:23,040 --> 01:08:25,000
Speaker 6: it looked like he was I don't want to use

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Speaker 6: the word confused, because I don't know what's in his head,

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01:08:27,280 --> 01:08:29,879
Speaker 6: but he certainly didn't see things the way we normally

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Speaker 6: he normally does.

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Speaker 1: So and in saying that, the second part of my question,

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Speaker 1: Carolina with their different strengths and weaknesses, the Atlanta falcon have,

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01:08:39,640 --> 01:08:43,080
Speaker 1: their defensive talent is at different spots. Uh Brown, their

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01:08:43,120 --> 01:08:45,400
Speaker 1: defensive tackle is a really good guy. They may you know,

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01:08:45,479 --> 01:08:47,320
Speaker 1: lean on him a little more and therefore do some

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01:08:47,400 --> 01:08:52,519
Speaker 1: different things. But certainly the Carolina Panthers are going to

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Speaker 1: test the Bills ability to decipher their blitz package without question.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, you know how Steve. I mean, if you're

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01:09:01,720 --> 01:09:04,880
Speaker 6: struggling to do something, another team will test it. Now.

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Speaker 6: They may not have the same blitz concept, the same

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01:09:07,479 --> 01:09:11,360
Speaker 6: pressure concepts, but they'll have some of their own they feel,

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Speaker 6: you know.

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Speaker 7: J C.

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Speaker 6: Horn is obviously a really good player. He's the boundary corner.

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01:09:15,320 --> 01:09:17,759
Speaker 6: Michael Jackson is the field corner. He's a player teams

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01:09:17,800 --> 01:09:21,920
Speaker 6: have gone after with success. Trayvon Meyrigg has been a

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01:09:21,960 --> 01:09:24,559
Speaker 6: really good player for them. He's the safety that he's

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Speaker 6: kind of their wild card movement safety. He's I think

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Speaker 6: he's a really good player, you know. I think their

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01:09:31,680 --> 01:09:34,439
Speaker 6: linebackers have been solid. Rose Boom, you guys are familiar with,

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01:09:34,479 --> 01:09:38,000
Speaker 6: and certainly Michael Hoyt's familiar with him. He's a nice player.

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01:09:38,760 --> 01:09:42,160
Speaker 6: Trevan Wallace, the second year kid from Kentucky, is very athletic,

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01:09:43,040 --> 01:09:45,760
Speaker 6: and we know about their front. They play a lot

1342
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Speaker 6: of young players as pass rushers, so we'll see how

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01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:52,680
Speaker 6: they do against Dawkins and Spencer Brown. But it's a

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01:09:52,720 --> 01:09:55,759
Speaker 6: defense that I think is up and coming. It's it's

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01:09:55,960 --> 01:10:00,040
Speaker 6: I don't think it's as conceptually difficult as Atlantis, but

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01:10:00,360 --> 01:10:02,880
Speaker 6: you're right, Steve, they will try some things just to

1347
01:10:02,920 --> 01:10:06,120
Speaker 6: see where the Bills stand in terms of protection.

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Speaker 3: Two numbers concerning Carolina's defense.

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Speaker 2: They are last in the league in pressure rate it's

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01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:17,040
Speaker 2: under twenty eight percent. And the other number, they are

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01:10:17,240 --> 01:10:21,799
Speaker 2: last in defensive DVOA against tight ends. They have trouble

1352
01:10:21,800 --> 01:10:25,200
Speaker 2: at the second level covering tight ends, and rose Boom,

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01:10:25,240 --> 01:10:27,439
Speaker 2: I would say, is a liability in that area, so.

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Speaker 3: Be interesting to say.

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Speaker 6: I would agree in coverage. Yeah, he's he's a good

1356
01:10:31,000 --> 01:10:34,519
Speaker 6: run player. Well, you know their ed snaps are young players.

1357
01:10:34,560 --> 01:10:37,360
Speaker 6: It's scoured and a rookie. It's Princely who's a rookie.

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01:10:37,800 --> 01:10:39,559
Speaker 6: One of them is. I've always liked one of them.

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Speaker 6: But he's not a pure pass rusher, you know, the

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Speaker 6: way you think of a guy. Right, you've got a

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01:10:42,960 --> 01:10:47,200
Speaker 6: game plan for so you know, Yeah, they don't rush

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01:10:47,200 --> 01:10:51,280
Speaker 6: the quarterback. Great, So you know they're a team. Look,

1363
01:10:51,320 --> 01:10:53,840
Speaker 6: you started out by talking about doubtell. They want to

1364
01:10:53,880 --> 01:10:55,639
Speaker 6: be able to control the pay and tempo of the game,

1365
01:10:55,680 --> 01:10:58,200
Speaker 6: running the football, whether it's doubtle, whether it's hovered, whether

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01:10:58,200 --> 01:11:00,800
Speaker 6: it's a combination of both. That's the way they want

1367
01:11:00,840 --> 01:11:02,840
Speaker 6: to play. They're not looking to get into a shootout.

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01:11:02,960 --> 01:11:04,519
Speaker 6: That's not the way they want to play.

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Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, Greg, good stuff, Thanks, good seeing you all right, guys,

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01:11:09,600 --> 01:11:10,320
Speaker 1: really appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Thanks all right, we'll catch up with you next week.

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Speaker 2: Week Greg, Bill's Mafia. It's tailgating season, and there's nothing

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01:11:15,479 --> 01:11:17,760
Speaker 2: better than a nice cold Pepsi zero sugar to pair

1374
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Speaker 2: with your tailgating food rituals.

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Speaker 3: As the Great Josh.

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Speaker 2: Allen One said, Bill's fans deserve Pepsi Bill's Mafia has

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Speaker 2: brought it this season, and so is Pepsi. Bill's Tailgates

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Speaker 2: deserve Pepsi Go Bills, And you're right about the ball control,

1379
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Speaker 2: you end, Greg because the Bills and the Panthers number

1380
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Speaker 2: one and number two in the league in time of possession.

1381
01:11:41,560 --> 01:11:43,200
Speaker 2: We got to take a break here, but we're back

1382
01:11:43,240 --> 01:11:45,360
Speaker 2: to the phones when we get back. So if you're

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Speaker 2: holding an eighth three oh five fifty here on this

1384
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Speaker 2: obl Friday fan mail bag editions, stay where we are.

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Speaker 2: Our Tailgate tag Along is presented by Wegmans. So wanted

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01:12:31,680 --> 01:12:34,000
Speaker 2: to see what you might have cooking up on the

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01:12:34,120 --> 01:12:36,320
Speaker 2: home grills for this away game. I know a lot

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01:12:36,320 --> 01:12:38,800
Speaker 2: of people are going to this game, so we'd like

1397
01:12:38,840 --> 01:12:42,960
Speaker 2: to know what is on your tailgating menu. And Andrew says,

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Speaker 2: as much as I would love to go to the

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01:12:44,600 --> 01:12:46,679
Speaker 2: game and enjoy the beautiful weather down there, I would

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01:12:46,720 --> 01:12:49,000
Speaker 2: not be able to because of work the next day.

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01:12:49,040 --> 01:12:54,080
Speaker 2: But I will be making ribs with a mustard based sauce.

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01:12:54,720 --> 01:12:55,400
Speaker 3: I'm listening.

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01:12:56,240 --> 01:12:58,680
Speaker 2: They're known for using mustard based sauce down there, so

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01:12:58,720 --> 01:12:59,840
Speaker 2: I'd figured i'd keep with the thing.

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01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:00,719
Speaker 3: It is correct.

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01:13:01,000 --> 01:13:06,080
Speaker 2: Carolina barbecue has a spicy brown mustard tang to it.

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01:13:06,840 --> 01:13:09,639
Speaker 2: I went to a barbecue joint one time, Steve, before

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01:13:09,680 --> 01:13:12,960
Speaker 2: the Bills at Eagles in twenty twenty three, I want

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01:13:12,960 --> 01:13:16,400
Speaker 2: to say, and we just found this hole in the

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01:13:16,439 --> 01:13:19,920
Speaker 2: wall place. They had three different kinds of barbecue sauce.

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01:13:20,200 --> 01:13:26,280
Speaker 2: One of them was Carolina and it was dynamite, Absolute dynamite.

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01:13:26,280 --> 01:13:28,240
Speaker 2: The other two sauces were good, but that one took

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01:13:28,280 --> 01:13:32,320
Speaker 2: the cake. It was my first experience with Carolina barbecue.

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01:13:32,320 --> 01:13:36,559
Speaker 2: It is a nice twist on barbecue sauce.

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01:13:38,080 --> 01:13:40,599
Speaker 1: I know I've recently had some. No you didn't, I've

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01:13:40,640 --> 01:13:41,799
Speaker 1: recently had some wings.

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01:13:42,760 --> 01:13:44,120
Speaker 3: I've never had it on ribs.

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01:13:44,200 --> 01:13:50,559
Speaker 1: I've had it on wings with a mustard rub.

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01:13:51,160 --> 01:13:51,679
Speaker 3: Not rub.

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01:13:51,720 --> 01:13:54,679
Speaker 1: It was a sauce that was drizzled over the top

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01:13:54,720 --> 01:13:57,240
Speaker 1: of it like a honey butter barbecue with mustard.

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01:13:57,439 --> 01:13:58,960
Speaker 6: Okay, yeah it was.

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01:14:00,600 --> 01:14:01,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, good for you, Andrew.

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01:14:01,720 --> 01:14:04,960
Speaker 2: That sounds delicious, good, Jack says on the road to

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01:14:05,000 --> 01:14:07,559
Speaker 2: the Carolinas as you read this, meeting up with friends

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01:14:07,560 --> 01:14:10,360
Speaker 2: in honor of the Octoberfest season in a lot making

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01:14:10,439 --> 01:14:15,960
Speaker 2: a little sausage roulette stout braised, then grilled beer brats

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01:14:16,040 --> 01:14:19,200
Speaker 2: with jalapeno and brown sugar sour kraut.

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01:14:19,479 --> 01:14:19,839
Speaker 3: Wow.

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01:14:21,360 --> 01:14:21,679
Speaker 5: Wow.

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01:14:22,760 --> 01:14:27,400
Speaker 2: Also smoked kilbosa with hot mustard and grilled sweet onion peppers.

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01:14:27,560 --> 01:14:29,880
Speaker 3: I don't know which one to pick. I'd have to

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01:14:29,920 --> 01:14:30,680
Speaker 3: eat both of them.

1434
01:14:30,760 --> 01:14:33,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, that sounds fantastic.

1435
01:14:33,720 --> 01:14:35,280
Speaker 3: And for the next home game so we can go

1436
01:14:35,360 --> 01:14:36,200
Speaker 3: back out and do another.

1437
01:14:36,360 --> 01:14:38,880
Speaker 2: We went to one of Jack's tailgates earlier this season.

1438
01:14:38,880 --> 01:14:40,360
Speaker 2: I want to go to this one. It was good,

1439
01:14:40,840 --> 01:14:46,759
Speaker 2: was good man, that sounds good. Kalepeno and sour kraut.

1440
01:14:46,960 --> 01:14:50,920
Speaker 1: Uh. Buffalo is a foodie town, no question about it,

1441
01:14:51,000 --> 01:14:53,520
Speaker 1: and it's been called such in national publications.

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01:14:53,560 --> 01:14:57,679
Speaker 3: But people that these are this is that's the tailgate

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01:14:57,720 --> 01:15:00,160
Speaker 3: we went to. Yeah, and that's like a totally it's

1444
01:15:00,200 --> 01:15:01,240
Speaker 3: andy one hundred and.

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01:15:01,160 --> 01:15:04,679
Speaker 1: Eighty different, one hundred and eighty degree turnaround from where.

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01:15:04,840 --> 01:15:10,280
Speaker 3: Your burger with havority cheese and special burden. Maybe he's unbelievable. Yeah,

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01:15:10,280 --> 01:15:11,040
Speaker 3: that's impressive.

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01:15:11,160 --> 01:15:13,240
Speaker 1: We could make money off the tail game menus in

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01:15:13,280 --> 01:15:16,040
Speaker 1: this place. Man, when you start a business.

1450
01:15:15,800 --> 01:15:20,000
Speaker 2: Uh, why, Higgins says, Arizona doesn't get too many bills games.

1451
01:15:20,040 --> 01:15:22,400
Speaker 3: I will listen to the radio broadcast with Chris Brown.

1452
01:15:22,439 --> 01:15:22,840
Speaker 3: Thank you.

1453
01:15:23,360 --> 01:15:26,760
Speaker 2: Planned on making pretzels with cheese dipping sauce, but need

1454
01:15:26,800 --> 01:15:30,920
Speaker 2: to eat low carb Sunday not by choice? Wings, question

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01:15:31,080 --> 01:15:35,200
Speaker 2: Mark ribs, question mark menu, TBD, go bills.

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01:15:35,439 --> 01:15:39,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, wings are good, you got protein. Yeah, low carbs

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01:15:39,240 --> 01:15:41,160
Speaker 3: as long as you don't bread the wings and who does.

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01:15:41,120 --> 01:15:44,000
Speaker 1: That always appropriate? Yeah, you don't want to bread that bread.

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01:15:44,120 --> 01:15:46,680
Speaker 3: Don't do that. Yeah, just go high on the on

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01:15:46,720 --> 01:15:49,720
Speaker 3: the protein side. Sure, you know ribs are always good too.

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Speaker 1: Those are there are a lot of work because they

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01:15:51,680 --> 01:15:53,600
Speaker 1: are because but you know, with a weekend with the

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01:15:53,640 --> 01:15:56,320
Speaker 1: game on Sunday Sunday, I want to clock the weekend.

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01:15:57,000 --> 01:15:59,439
Speaker 1: You know you kind of started on Saturday afternoon. He

1465
01:15:59,560 --> 01:16:03,360
Speaker 1: starts slow cooking them and yeah, there you go.

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Speaker 2: Let's so that is the tailgate tag along for this week.

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01:16:08,680 --> 01:16:11,760
Speaker 2: We will be back home next week, so we will

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01:16:11,800 --> 01:16:16,640
Speaker 2: remind you if you have some interesting tailgating menu options,

1469
01:16:17,160 --> 01:16:20,120
Speaker 2: you should tweet it us at one Bill's Live. And

1470
01:16:20,200 --> 01:16:23,439
Speaker 2: if we like what we see, you may see Stephen

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01:16:23,840 --> 01:16:27,480
Speaker 2: myself stop by to sample some of your menu offerings

1472
01:16:28,080 --> 01:16:32,000
Speaker 2: next week at the week nine tailgate for Bills Chiefs.

1473
01:16:32,240 --> 01:16:34,680
Speaker 2: So if you already have plans, that's fire it off

1474
01:16:34,720 --> 01:16:37,320
Speaker 2: to us at one Bills it is.

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01:16:37,439 --> 01:16:41,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that'll be we'll have some extra time to

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01:16:41,200 --> 01:16:44,200
Speaker 1: do that. So we'll be out looking around. We'll be

1477
01:16:44,200 --> 01:16:48,160
Speaker 1: out oh yeah snooping around. We'll hook up text us

1478
01:16:48,280 --> 01:16:51,320
Speaker 1: or tweet tweet at us at one Bill's Live.

1479
01:16:51,720 --> 01:16:53,519
Speaker 3: And we'll hook up and we'll you can we'll know,

1480
01:16:53,640 --> 01:16:53,960
Speaker 3: you'll know.

1481
01:16:54,000 --> 01:16:55,920
Speaker 1: What we can tell us where you will know to

1482
01:16:56,000 --> 01:16:56,599
Speaker 1: expect us.

1483
01:16:56,720 --> 01:16:59,879
Speaker 2: And pulling up in a high speed golf cart.

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01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:03,439
Speaker 1: Ice beat golf cart by the way, golf carts are

1485
01:17:03,439 --> 01:17:05,960
Speaker 1: the only way I've been you have been turned on

1486
01:17:06,160 --> 01:17:07,280
Speaker 1: to change your baby.

1487
01:17:07,280 --> 01:17:08,639
Speaker 3: I'm the only way to tailgame.

1488
01:17:08,720 --> 01:17:13,320
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, a little cart and just that is awesome.

1489
01:17:13,320 --> 01:17:15,800
Speaker 1: I had worked with responsibilities.

1490
01:17:15,200 --> 01:17:19,360
Speaker 2: For the home opener, and my wife ended up scooting

1491
01:17:19,400 --> 01:17:22,760
Speaker 2: around with him and her girlfriend right for the rest

1492
01:17:22,800 --> 01:17:25,680
Speaker 2: because Steve doesn't have pre game responsibilities, so they're just

1493
01:17:26,080 --> 01:17:28,320
Speaker 2: ripping around the play sample and everybody's stuff.

1494
01:17:29,280 --> 01:17:32,760
Speaker 1: I have multiple pregame responsibilities. I'm very busy, and I'm

1495
01:17:32,840 --> 01:17:36,639
Speaker 1: very important stay out of the way of my cart.

1496
01:17:36,800 --> 01:17:40,160
Speaker 1: We've got things and things to do, big responsibilities, and

1497
01:17:40,240 --> 01:17:42,280
Speaker 1: it's very important that I have free reign with my

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01:17:42,320 --> 01:17:42,880
Speaker 1: golf cart.

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01:17:43,280 --> 01:17:47,880
Speaker 3: So yeah, it's it's a level up, for sure. It is.

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Speaker 1: This has been one of my most enjoyable football seasons.

1501
01:17:53,400 --> 01:17:56,360
Speaker 3: Well there you go, since I quit playing a right

1502
01:17:57,080 --> 01:17:58,680
Speaker 3: and it has everything to do with the golf. It

1503
01:17:58,720 --> 01:18:05,040
Speaker 3: has everything to do with tailor game. Let's get back

1504
01:18:05,040 --> 01:18:05,800
Speaker 3: to the phones though.

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01:18:05,800 --> 01:18:08,839
Speaker 2: On this OBL Friday fan mail bag, and waiting patiently

1506
01:18:08,880 --> 01:18:10,200
Speaker 2: has been James in Rochester.

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01:18:10,320 --> 01:18:12,400
Speaker 3: What do you got for his James?

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01:18:12,479 --> 01:18:12,599
Speaker 8: Hi?

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Speaker 6: Guys.

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Speaker 12: First of all, congratulations Steve on the nomination, pulling for

1511
01:18:16,680 --> 01:18:18,680
Speaker 12: you to see a lot of those games back in

1512
01:18:18,720 --> 01:18:22,080
Speaker 12: the nineties, so good luck on that process.

1513
01:18:22,280 --> 01:18:22,479
Speaker 3: Uh.

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01:18:22,680 --> 01:18:27,479
Speaker 12: Secondly, I couldn't agree more with mister Cosell there about

1515
01:18:27,520 --> 01:18:29,720
Speaker 12: opening up the game war. I mean, even when they're

1516
01:18:29,720 --> 01:18:31,960
Speaker 12: scoring thirty points a game, we're kind of like and

1517
01:18:32,080 --> 01:18:34,760
Speaker 12: they get kind of the energy level though four and no,

1518
01:18:34,880 --> 01:18:37,920
Speaker 12: it's scoring at thirty points, but we can like there's

1519
01:18:37,960 --> 01:18:41,080
Speaker 12: something not there. There's still something not there. But my

1520
01:18:41,200 --> 01:18:44,640
Speaker 12: question to you, Steve is energy. But it's kind of

1521
01:18:44,640 --> 01:18:46,280
Speaker 12: more like the rhythm of your routine.

1522
01:18:46,320 --> 01:18:46,720
Speaker 7: Every week.

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01:18:46,760 --> 01:18:48,720
Speaker 12: When you were playing, you knew you were going to

1524
01:18:48,760 --> 01:18:51,639
Speaker 12: play at one or four every Sunday an occasional Monday.

1525
01:18:51,680 --> 01:18:55,479
Speaker 12: You had pretty much had the same routine every week.

1526
01:18:55,560 --> 01:18:58,720
Speaker 12: Now these teams, not just the Bills, they're flying all

1527
01:18:58,760 --> 01:19:01,479
Speaker 12: over the world. They got a game on Thursday, then

1528
01:19:01,520 --> 01:19:03,960
Speaker 12: they don't have a game until the next Monday night.

1529
01:19:04,280 --> 01:19:06,240
Speaker 12: Then they got a short week and they're playing quick.

1530
01:19:06,360 --> 01:19:09,600
Speaker 12: How much does that affect, you know, the penalties like

1531
01:19:09,720 --> 01:19:12,960
Speaker 12: lining up offside on the first down, taking a turnover,

1532
01:19:13,320 --> 01:19:15,880
Speaker 12: all that kind of slappy play is that you have

1533
01:19:16,000 --> 01:19:18,760
Speaker 12: to do with the weekly rhythm of the routine that

1534
01:19:18,800 --> 01:19:19,200
Speaker 12: you're in.

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01:19:19,479 --> 01:19:21,960
Speaker 1: I think only in the I think James, only in

1536
01:19:22,000 --> 01:19:26,800
Speaker 1: the sense that the preparation is disjointed. If you don't

1537
01:19:26,800 --> 01:19:28,519
Speaker 1: feel like you're in a rhythm, or or you don't

1538
01:19:28,560 --> 01:19:30,880
Speaker 1: get the same reps or the same kind of feel

1539
01:19:30,920 --> 01:19:34,559
Speaker 1: for your practice routine. Then it can it might bleed

1540
01:19:34,600 --> 01:19:39,040
Speaker 1: over into the game, but you players are used to that.

1541
01:19:39,080 --> 01:19:41,559
Speaker 1: You get a routine and you stick with it, and

1542
01:19:41,640 --> 01:19:46,360
Speaker 1: you plan, and you can't let the routine become the

1543
01:19:46,400 --> 01:19:48,799
Speaker 1: object of it. Certainly, you got to trust the process

1544
01:19:48,840 --> 01:19:50,240
Speaker 1: and get all that. You got a lot of stuff

1545
01:19:50,280 --> 01:19:53,599
Speaker 1: to be done, but you but having a wrench thrown

1546
01:19:53,640 --> 01:19:55,679
Speaker 1: into it or having it changed from time to time

1547
01:19:55,800 --> 01:19:58,040
Speaker 1: is not an excuse. You got to plan around it

1548
01:19:58,560 --> 01:20:02,600
Speaker 1: and throw your self into that routine on that schedule.

1549
01:20:03,600 --> 01:20:09,639
Speaker 1: You're right, the travel home away, odd day, odd time

1550
01:20:09,960 --> 01:20:11,800
Speaker 1: can make a difference and make you show up a

1551
01:20:11,840 --> 01:20:12,599
Speaker 1: little bit weird.

1552
01:20:13,120 --> 01:20:13,759
Speaker 3: Maybe it doesn't.

1553
01:20:14,400 --> 01:20:16,360
Speaker 1: Maybe you didn't get the right sleep, or you're you're

1554
01:20:16,400 --> 01:20:20,880
Speaker 1: not peeking at the right time energy wise, But for

1555
01:20:20,920 --> 01:20:24,640
Speaker 1: the most part, players have anticipated that you're kind of

1556
01:20:24,640 --> 01:20:28,280
Speaker 1: ready for that. Yeah, So I would say, while it

1557
01:20:28,280 --> 01:20:32,040
Speaker 1: it might have an effect on your discipline and your

1558
01:20:32,160 --> 01:20:35,959
Speaker 1: you know, your self control and jumping off sides and penalties,

1559
01:20:36,439 --> 01:20:38,160
Speaker 1: I don't I don't think it's a good enough excuse

1560
01:20:38,200 --> 01:20:42,560
Speaker 1: for that. I think it's more about your emotional concentration

1561
01:20:43,040 --> 01:20:44,880
Speaker 1: of being ready to play on that play, And.

1562
01:20:44,840 --> 01:20:46,840
Speaker 2: I think The Bills don't have much of a leg

1563
01:20:46,920 --> 01:20:48,639
Speaker 2: to stand on there either, because they have the second

1564
01:20:48,640 --> 01:20:52,480
Speaker 2: fewest air miles in the league with their schedule this season.

1565
01:20:52,240 --> 01:20:54,240
Speaker 1: Right, but they do play at odd time, old night

1566
01:20:54,280 --> 01:20:56,040
Speaker 1: games all the time, a bunch of four to twenty

1567
01:20:56,040 --> 01:20:58,320
Speaker 1: five games. There's that going on, and that I think

1568
01:20:59,120 --> 01:21:02,920
Speaker 1: you start your real hard routine, your you're etched in

1569
01:21:03,040 --> 01:21:07,240
Speaker 1: stone routine, kind of like the night the late night

1570
01:21:07,360 --> 01:21:10,479
Speaker 1: before you get up and play all day game day,

1571
01:21:11,439 --> 01:21:13,960
Speaker 1: even if it's a night game. You've got that kind

1572
01:21:13,960 --> 01:21:15,880
Speaker 1: of set in stone, like a good go to sleep

1573
01:21:16,000 --> 01:21:17,560
Speaker 1: nap for an eight you know, for an eight to

1574
01:21:17,600 --> 01:21:21,400
Speaker 1: ten kickoff, you're sleeping from like one to three or whatever,

1575
01:21:22,240 --> 01:21:25,439
Speaker 1: and so you've got that set in stone. So if

1576
01:21:25,439 --> 01:21:28,439
Speaker 1: that gets if that gets disrupted, maybe you'll have a

1577
01:21:28,439 --> 01:21:32,960
Speaker 1: little problem showing up ready to play. But that's you know,

1578
01:21:33,040 --> 01:21:35,080
Speaker 1: that's when it really gets to be a problem. It's

1579
01:21:35,120 --> 01:21:39,759
Speaker 1: not so much you know, the Monday that you're getting

1580
01:21:39,800 --> 01:21:42,240
Speaker 1: off this last week or Monday you had a padded

1581
01:21:42,280 --> 01:21:43,720
Speaker 1: practice and that kind of thing that was just kind

1582
01:21:43,720 --> 01:21:46,840
Speaker 1: of weird. So yeah, the schedule can get into your

1583
01:21:46,840 --> 01:21:50,080
Speaker 1: way once in a while, but that's your responsibility and

1584
01:21:50,120 --> 01:21:52,560
Speaker 1: you've got to be righty pro you got to be ready.

1585
01:21:52,280 --> 01:21:54,920
Speaker 3: For it to Jerry and Tonawanda.

1586
01:21:55,000 --> 01:21:55,280
Speaker 4: Next.

1587
01:21:55,400 --> 01:21:59,360
Speaker 8: How's it going, Jerry, Hey, guys, great job. Let me

1588
01:21:59,360 --> 01:22:02,640
Speaker 8: prey this saying that outside of the coaching staff of

1589
01:22:02,680 --> 01:22:04,640
Speaker 8: the Buffalo Bills, I was probably the only one in

1590
01:22:04,680 --> 01:22:07,920
Speaker 8: Buffalo that wanted Josh Allen when we picked them, so

1591
01:22:08,880 --> 01:22:11,759
Speaker 8: because I watched him in college and I'm from Wyoming

1592
01:22:11,840 --> 01:22:15,559
Speaker 8: but live here now. Anyway, in college, they had a

1593
01:22:15,600 --> 01:22:19,280
Speaker 8: poor offensive line, and if you go back and look,

1594
01:22:19,439 --> 01:22:21,479
Speaker 8: they had a lot of plays where they just moved

1595
01:22:21,479 --> 01:22:23,679
Speaker 8: the pocket out to the right and he could see

1596
01:22:23,720 --> 01:22:26,240
Speaker 8: the field and he was just tearing up defenses when

1597
01:22:26,280 --> 01:22:27,920
Speaker 8: they moved him out to the right. And I'd like

1598
01:22:27,960 --> 01:22:31,240
Speaker 8: to see the Bills move them, move them out of

1599
01:22:31,280 --> 01:22:34,200
Speaker 8: the pocket, have some calls where they bootleg them out

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01:22:34,320 --> 01:22:36,639
Speaker 8: or move the pocket out to the right and let

1601
01:22:36,680 --> 01:22:38,719
Speaker 8: them give him with two seconds to see the field

1602
01:22:38,760 --> 01:22:42,840
Speaker 8: and see his receivers. And secondly, I have a whiteboard

1603
01:22:42,880 --> 01:22:45,960
Speaker 8: Steve here at home, and I got you. Let me

1604
01:22:46,040 --> 01:22:48,920
Speaker 8: just tell you, I got you going to the Hall

1605
01:22:48,960 --> 01:22:49,720
Speaker 8: of Fame this year.

1606
01:22:49,840 --> 01:22:54,719
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I like that. Put a date on my guys.

1607
01:22:54,800 --> 01:22:55,320
Speaker 3: There you go.

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01:22:55,400 --> 01:22:58,200
Speaker 1: Well, hey, I guess I should start packing my bags.

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01:22:58,240 --> 01:23:03,160
Speaker 8: Then, right, one more thing, also on my whiteboard. If

1610
01:23:03,800 --> 01:23:06,840
Speaker 8: if we lose the Carolina, which I hope we don't,

1611
01:23:07,040 --> 01:23:08,840
Speaker 8: I don't have us making the playoffs.

1612
01:23:09,040 --> 01:23:15,960
Speaker 2: Oh wow, okay, okay, all right, Martin, timestamp, time stamp

1613
01:23:16,040 --> 01:23:16,880
Speaker 2: those predictions.

1614
01:23:17,000 --> 01:23:18,640
Speaker 3: And I hope you go one for race, the.

1615
01:23:18,640 --> 01:23:20,680
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame race, the Hall of Fame thing, and

1616
01:23:20,760 --> 01:23:24,000
Speaker 1: keep yeah, uh yeah, one or the other. If it's

1617
01:23:24,040 --> 01:23:26,480
Speaker 1: one of the other, give me the win at Carolina.

1618
01:23:28,280 --> 01:23:33,599
Speaker 1: But yeah, that's yeah. A three game losing streak would

1619
01:23:33,640 --> 01:23:35,880
Speaker 1: be a shocker for this crew.

1620
01:23:35,960 --> 01:23:38,200
Speaker 2: It would also be the first three game losing streak

1621
01:23:38,240 --> 01:23:42,000
Speaker 2: in Josh Allen's playing career. Ye never had one. The

1622
01:23:42,080 --> 01:23:44,560
Speaker 2: last time the Bills lost three in a row was

1623
01:23:44,640 --> 01:23:47,760
Speaker 2: Josh Allen's rookie year when he was injured with that

1624
01:23:47,880 --> 01:23:51,479
Speaker 2: elbow injury from Houston in Week five and then missed

1625
01:23:51,479 --> 01:23:54,559
Speaker 2: the next three games with an elbow injury and they

1626
01:23:54,600 --> 01:23:55,519
Speaker 2: lost all three of them.

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01:23:55,720 --> 01:23:57,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, and we've talked about it a lot.

1628
01:23:57,520 --> 01:24:00,240
Speaker 1: Last They came back after the two game losing streak

1629
01:24:00,320 --> 01:24:02,960
Speaker 1: last year and played at the Jets and won twenty

1630
01:24:03,000 --> 01:24:05,679
Speaker 1: three to twenty. So that was it was no gimme

1631
01:24:06,320 --> 01:24:09,000
Speaker 1: two years or three years ago. They lost weeks. Remember

1632
01:24:09,000 --> 01:24:10,640
Speaker 1: they were going six and six. It's when they made

1633
01:24:10,680 --> 01:24:13,600
Speaker 1: the change in offensive coordinator. He came back after a

1634
01:24:13,640 --> 01:24:16,520
Speaker 1: two game losing streak, losing a close one to Cincinnati,

1635
01:24:16,600 --> 01:24:19,439
Speaker 1: losing a close one to Denver. Remember on the last

1636
01:24:19,600 --> 01:24:22,680
Speaker 1: the field goal, the twelve men on the field. Then

1637
01:24:22,760 --> 01:24:24,680
Speaker 1: they came back and they scored thirty two against the

1638
01:24:24,760 --> 01:24:29,200
Speaker 1: Jets and lumped those guys up twenty twenty two. You

1639
01:24:29,240 --> 01:24:32,120
Speaker 1: go back even further. The two game winning streak. A

1640
01:24:32,120 --> 01:24:35,960
Speaker 1: losing streak came at November sixth, Week nine, and week

1641
01:24:36,040 --> 01:24:38,879
Speaker 1: ten the Jets and then the Vikings. Remember the overtime

1642
01:24:38,920 --> 01:24:41,240
Speaker 1: loss here to the Vikings. They came out and lumped

1643
01:24:41,320 --> 01:24:43,840
Speaker 1: up the Browns. Next week, lumped up the Detroit Lions.

1644
01:24:43,840 --> 01:24:46,519
Speaker 1: After that, lumped up the Patriots, lumped up the Jets,

1645
01:24:47,080 --> 01:24:49,240
Speaker 1: and beat the Dolphins and beat the Bears. I mean,

1646
01:24:49,240 --> 01:24:50,960
Speaker 1: they came out and went six in a row after

1647
01:24:51,000 --> 01:24:52,320
Speaker 1: that two game losing streak.

1648
01:24:52,400 --> 01:24:56,960
Speaker 3: So it's.

1649
01:24:56,600 --> 01:24:59,000
Speaker 1: I think you have every right to think maybe they're

1650
01:24:59,000 --> 01:25:01,639
Speaker 1: going to bounce back, but it's not us that has

1651
01:25:01,680 --> 01:25:03,000
Speaker 1: to say it. It's them that has to do it.

1652
01:25:03,000 --> 01:25:04,799
Speaker 1: And that's what we have to watch.

1653
01:25:04,560 --> 01:25:06,840
Speaker 2: For break time for us here when we come back.

1654
01:25:06,880 --> 01:25:10,400
Speaker 2: Some final thoughts on the tweet sheet questions in the

1655
01:25:10,439 --> 01:25:13,519
Speaker 2: OBL Friday fan mailbag, we'll answer those when we get

1656
01:25:13,520 --> 01:25:15,559
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1657
01:25:15,600 --> 01:25:29,120
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1659
01:25:33,840 --> 01:25:38,519
Speaker 2: stay The Way to Victory for Buffalo is obviously heavy

1660
01:25:38,560 --> 01:25:39,800
Speaker 2: doses of James Cook.

1661
01:25:39,880 --> 01:25:42,040
Speaker 3: But I think Khalil Shakir.

1662
01:25:42,520 --> 01:25:44,960
Speaker 2: We don't know the status of Kincaid, but I am

1663
01:25:45,000 --> 01:25:48,000
Speaker 2: not impressed with their two linebackers in coverage the Panthers,

1664
01:25:48,439 --> 01:25:52,519
Speaker 2: And usually when the Bills play a defense without good coverage,

1665
01:25:52,560 --> 01:25:56,719
Speaker 2: linebackers Khalil Shakir and Dalgon Kincaid usually have big games.

1666
01:25:57,360 --> 01:26:00,439
Speaker 2: So hopefully they are fed early and often. And this

1667
01:26:00,600 --> 01:26:03,760
Speaker 2: offense looks more like the offense we've become accustomed to seeing.

1668
01:26:03,840 --> 01:26:07,960
Speaker 2: And then obviously defensively, you can't let Dabell get out

1669
01:26:08,000 --> 01:26:10,880
Speaker 2: of the gate and you know, get because if he

1670
01:26:10,920 --> 01:26:12,679
Speaker 2: gets to the secondary, it's over.

1671
01:26:12,760 --> 01:26:14,839
Speaker 3: He's gone. You're not catching him.

1672
01:26:15,120 --> 01:26:18,240
Speaker 2: So they got to get off blocks they've got to

1673
01:26:18,280 --> 01:26:22,000
Speaker 2: make tackles, and the tackling has to be sound, and

1674
01:26:22,000 --> 01:26:24,960
Speaker 2: then you need people rally into the football.

1675
01:26:24,960 --> 01:26:28,680
Speaker 3: Eleven guys to the ball. There's just there's no other

1676
01:26:28,720 --> 01:26:29,519
Speaker 3: way to do it.

1677
01:26:29,520 --> 01:26:31,760
Speaker 1: It would be nice to see Andy Dalton under some

1678
01:26:31,840 --> 01:26:35,720
Speaker 1: duress in the pocket. He's not going to extend plays.

1679
01:26:35,760 --> 01:26:40,120
Speaker 2: Ten touchdowns, nine picks and six career games.

1680
01:26:39,840 --> 01:26:45,120
Speaker 1: For Dalton, Kincaid and Khalishakir. Kinkaid was limited in practice today. Yeah,

1681
01:26:45,439 --> 01:26:49,080
Speaker 1: so he may not be available. And if he is,

1682
01:26:50,120 --> 01:26:51,960
Speaker 1: we've seen this story before. He's not as good when

1683
01:26:52,000 --> 01:26:56,000
Speaker 1: he doesn't feel good. It'll be interesting to see how

1684
01:26:56,040 --> 01:26:58,040
Speaker 1: healthy he is by game day. He got a couple

1685
01:26:58,080 --> 01:27:00,840
Speaker 1: of days to go, but he's he did a little

1686
01:27:00,840 --> 01:27:06,240
Speaker 1: something today. Was limited so and so was Terrell Bernard Mamalano,

1687
01:27:06,400 --> 01:27:10,439
Speaker 1: same thing. But you're right, Brownie. If they have a

1688
01:27:10,520 --> 01:27:15,000
Speaker 1: weakness in the middle of their defense in past coverage,

1689
01:27:15,840 --> 01:27:17,920
Speaker 1: you know you got to jump on it. This is

1690
01:27:17,960 --> 01:27:24,280
Speaker 1: an offense that's built for that. Khalishakir Kinkaid knocks James

1691
01:27:24,320 --> 01:27:26,960
Speaker 1: Cook in the passing game, Ty Johnson in the passing game.

1692
01:27:26,960 --> 01:27:31,120
Speaker 1: Whoever you want to pick, they've Curtis Samuel those are

1693
01:27:31,200 --> 01:27:33,519
Speaker 1: exactly the kind of guys you want to deploy against

1694
01:27:33,720 --> 01:27:36,519
Speaker 1: a defense that struggles with that. So we'll see.

1695
01:27:37,200 --> 01:27:41,000
Speaker 2: So that is Vision to Victory, brought to you by

1696
01:27:41,160 --> 01:27:46,240
Speaker 2: at Wall Eye Care. Some final questions from the OBL

1697
01:27:46,280 --> 01:27:49,120
Speaker 2: Friday fan mail bag. Lauren asks, if Rapp is out

1698
01:27:49,120 --> 01:27:51,160
Speaker 2: this week, do you prefer an older, less athletic at

1699
01:27:51,280 --> 01:27:54,360
Speaker 2: very savvy Jordan Poyer an excellent athlete like Jordan Hancock,

1700
01:27:54,720 --> 01:27:56,320
Speaker 2: the fifth round draft choice with a bit of a

1701
01:27:56,360 --> 01:27:59,559
Speaker 2: learning curve for this week. I like Poyer for playoff seasoning,

1702
01:27:59,840 --> 01:28:05,200
Speaker 2: I prefer Hancock. I'm of the belief that you have

1703
01:28:05,280 --> 01:28:09,479
Speaker 2: to get more athletes on the field Defensively. I think

1704
01:28:09,520 --> 01:28:12,120
Speaker 2: if there is one thing that is lacking on Buffalo's defense,

1705
01:28:12,160 --> 01:28:17,200
Speaker 2: it is speed. Hancock and Hairston are two ways to

1706
01:28:17,320 --> 01:28:21,439
Speaker 2: improve the collective speed quotient on defense. Are they going

1707
01:28:21,520 --> 01:28:25,840
Speaker 2: to make mistakes? Probably, But I'm playing the long game here.

1708
01:28:26,280 --> 01:28:29,760
Speaker 2: I'm thinking about January. So I'll take my lumps and

1709
01:28:29,800 --> 01:28:33,599
Speaker 2: take a couple of mistakes now and hope that they're

1710
01:28:33,840 --> 01:28:36,679
Speaker 2: better for it come January and you have a more

1711
01:28:36,720 --> 01:28:39,600
Speaker 2: athletic defense as a result. I love Jordan Poyer what

1712
01:28:39,640 --> 01:28:42,400
Speaker 2: he did for this organization was a cornerstone of what

1713
01:28:42,479 --> 01:28:46,280
Speaker 2: this team is now. But there's a time and a

1714
01:28:46,360 --> 01:28:49,960
Speaker 2: place where you've got to flip the script and go

1715
01:28:50,040 --> 01:28:54,160
Speaker 2: with youth and with as much as this defense needs

1716
01:28:54,280 --> 01:28:57,720
Speaker 2: pure speed out there, I'm leaning Hancock Hairston.

1717
01:28:57,720 --> 01:28:59,720
Speaker 1: There might be something to bray. And I've been talking

1718
01:28:59,720 --> 01:29:03,280
Speaker 1: about this off the air. You might want to take

1719
01:29:03,439 --> 01:29:05,200
Speaker 1: a chance to say, listen, we're going to get through

1720
01:29:05,240 --> 01:29:07,720
Speaker 1: this game with Poyer and then when we play the

1721
01:29:07,800 --> 01:29:10,960
Speaker 1: Chiefs next week. Now, let's put the young guys on.

1722
01:29:11,040 --> 01:29:12,920
Speaker 1: Put them in the big moment, because they're that kind

1723
01:29:12,960 --> 01:29:14,760
Speaker 1: of kid. Let's see them flourish. Let's put them in

1724
01:29:14,760 --> 01:29:17,720
Speaker 1: the big moment. The Chiefs haven't seen them. Maxwell run

1725
01:29:17,760 --> 01:29:21,320
Speaker 1: with some guys. Let's save them until the big moment

1726
01:29:21,320 --> 01:29:22,519
Speaker 1: against the Kansas City Chiefs.

1727
01:29:22,600 --> 01:29:24,559
Speaker 3: We'll see enjoy the game on Sunday.

1728
01:29:24,600 --> 01:29:27,320
Speaker 2: Steve will have postgame, I'll have the call, and we'll

1729
01:29:27,360 --> 01:29:29,320
Speaker 2: see you back here on Monday at noon