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Speaker 2: First of all, we appreciate you. You know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 2: First team All D.

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Speaker 3: You know, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah shot Town in

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Speaker 3: this bill and you feel me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah it's shot Town today. Baby, long time coming. You

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Speaker 1: know you our gout.

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Speaker 2: We go way way back, Summer days and all that stuff. Man,

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Speaker 2: you know you're from the crib, first team All D

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Speaker 2: and we really appreciate you coming to rock with us.

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Speaker 1: Man on the show, Man, What's Up? I appreciate y'all

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Speaker 1: having me.

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Speaker 3: Man ran five show that show that.

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Speaker 2: When you first got to the league. Who was the

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Speaker 2: first person to bust your ass?

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Speaker 4: Man?

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Speaker 1: That's a good question, man, because I mean I played

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Speaker 1: they had that work. You fear me, and but it

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Speaker 1: don't go unnoticed with Kobe obviously he the first person

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Speaker 1: that you felt. I mean, I'm talking about to ask

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Speaker 1: you when you say bust somebody, you gotta you gotta

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Speaker 1: put pressure on them. And I say that man, Kobe

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Speaker 1: had I played eight minutes at six thousand eight minutes.

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Speaker 1: He talking about busting that man. Listen, bro I went

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Speaker 1: for every head fake for every job I'm talking about

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Speaker 1: any draft, I'm pushing up coach too hard, an extra

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Speaker 1: too ready I'm talking about It's like I over studied them,

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And at that time it

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Speaker 1: was like they calling them the Mama at this time.

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Speaker 1: So it was like, you don't want to get bit

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Speaker 1: by that snake. So I got bit man. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: it had to be Kobe Man. He had too many

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Speaker 1: attributes at that time.

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Speaker 4: Yo yo yo.

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Speaker 3: We live on location San Francisco, California. We all here,

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Speaker 3: all start twoenty twenty five. I got the blackest one

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Speaker 3: with me with his red Saint Louis Hat.

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Speaker 5: We got a very very special guest, First Team All

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Speaker 5: Defense Out the Mud Podcast, The Grime Father two thousand

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Speaker 5: and eight, NBA champion, six times All Defense overall in

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Speaker 5: his career.

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Speaker 1: Don't let we ain't gonna short him.

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Speaker 3: And he got a jersey going up to the rafters

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Speaker 3: and Tennessee. We got Chicago's on mister Tony Yalla man Ty,

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Speaker 3: if you really know what's going.

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Speaker 1: On, appreciate you pulling up bro Man's family.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 3: You know, we always understand it. There's one team, one

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Speaker 3: go May Let's get it.

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Speaker 1: Chicago, Illinois.

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Speaker 2: The Lanta Ballers shot Atlanta it was great not you

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Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, To even be mentioned with some

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Speaker 2: of the names that came out Chicago is like a

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Speaker 2: big deal from where we're from. Did that tell us

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Speaker 2: like the journey? You know, you grew up like us,

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Speaker 2: you know, poverty. You know, we could have sold drugs,

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Speaker 2: we could have gained bang, we could have did a

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Speaker 2: lot of stuff that would have made us go another route.

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Speaker 1: But you wind up getting through it and going to this.

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Speaker 2: So who was something the Chicago legend that you like

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Speaker 2: you was like, nah, I want to I want to hoop.

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Speaker 1: Well, honestly, it wasn't nobody in my family. I come

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Speaker 1: and keep that all the way together and like everybody

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Speaker 1: we're gonna keep that short and sweet, but that type

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Speaker 1: I grew up to forty eight West ninety fifth Street

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Speaker 1: stand up south Side, south Side for show man. A

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Speaker 1: Man. You know, Juwan Howell grew up ten like like

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Speaker 1: you know, saying, the big old, hundred million dollar deal man,

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Speaker 1: I remember vividly, like just leaving school, you know what

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Speaker 4: Like I'm talking from the hood.

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Speaker 1: The big homies in the hood.

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Speaker 3: Got love for him with them, and I'm talking about

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Speaker 3: that's what made me look up to this day, bro

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Speaker 3: Mike Finn was the pictures of perfection for me in

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Speaker 3: had the first hundred million dollar deal in the league.

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Speaker 3: Like Bro, he didn't did everything, and like you said,

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Speaker 3: just like you said, they was Mike. They we called

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Speaker 3: both on Mike Lowry, Bro, because like you said, the

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Speaker 3: got to be got to range. The boy was coming

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Speaker 3: up in MJ type whips. You feel me like them

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Speaker 3: really like you say, real spaceships, and I'm talking about

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Speaker 3: everything they did, Bro, Like it was respect on all

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Speaker 3: then you even bring it to the hood feeling.

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Speaker 1: In New Gut hood love.

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Speaker 3: All the hood boys know them and what it is

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Speaker 3: they pull up the it is love, ain't no issues.

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Speaker 1: Like that was what you wanted to be. Yeah, I promise,

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Speaker 1: and I ain't gona front Like man coming up in

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Speaker 1: did that. Man, it's catched ten eleven years old, walking

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Speaker 1: around with thousands in their pocket, got chevyes on thirties

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Speaker 1: it's like, man, come get this bread or do you

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Speaker 1: want to stay focused? And you know me, I'm front

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Speaker 1: of whod I love my partners even till this day. Man,

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I meet them where they at.

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Speaker 1: It did something to me. Man, I ain't gonna lie.

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Speaker 1: I stay on that court every day. My mom usedly

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Speaker 1: lot of love from my OG's always they always told me, like, yo,

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Speaker 1: And so I can say that about my neighborhood. They

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Speaker 2: You from so in Chicago, you know it's a lot

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Speaker 2: of high schools that got history. You know, Whitney Young

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: Farragant Western House, Western House Man said, bank Shall Sea

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Speaker 2: chose Crane to go to.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so what was the choice of know?

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Speaker 4: You could have went no, no, no, I aint could

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Speaker 1: He did go.

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Speaker 3: This is the part you about to know about about

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Speaker 3: you ain't know about it. He played with my cousin,

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Speaker 3: Big hand Nate Thaniel co Haund Julian High School.

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Speaker 1: Why tarry Mark for sure?

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Speaker 4: He to Julian.

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Speaker 1: Lance School with history man.

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Speaker 3: So so my thing was like and the reason why

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Speaker 3: I went to that school, Bro, I ain't.

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Speaker 1: Gonna let my homeboy man got his ass whooped. Man,

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Speaker 1: My homie, Reggie, they whooped his ass. Man, they beat this.

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Speaker 3: I said, you know what, Homie, I said, you know what, Joe,

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Speaker 3: I'll be up that next I'll be up that next year.

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Speaker 3: it was like all right. When I got there, bro,

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Speaker 3: it felt like to me, I ain't gonna looking back.

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Speaker 3: It felt like a fashion show.

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Speaker 4: Bro.

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Speaker 3: It felt like, man, everybody parents had money. Man, everybody

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Speaker 1: I'm like, man, you know what, I ain't gonna be

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Speaker 1: all do this. I ain't gonna do that. I can't

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 1: But one thing I can say is, you know the

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Speaker 1: Hoop squad. You know why you know you say hound

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Speaker 1: laying smoked Corey. You know they saw me Hoop and

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Speaker 1: and they were like, man, Shorty got game. But in

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Speaker 1: my man, I was discouraged. I was like, man, I

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Speaker 1: come from the project, Bro, I ain't got no I

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Speaker 1: ain't got ship, Bro, don't got nothing. And so what

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Speaker 1: I did was, you know, a lot of my time

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Speaker 1: was spent like in that gymnasium and the back, always

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Speaker 1: shooting dice, you know, going the home room but missing

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Speaker 1: all my classes, trying to trying to hustle and shoot

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Speaker 1: go to the city sports and get some gear.

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Speaker 4: You feel the sports man, Yeah, city sports man.

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Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie. I put a lot of my

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Speaker 1: time into that man, and I ain't gonna lie. I

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Speaker 1: ended up. I ended up dropping out. I dropped out, Bro,

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Speaker 1: I honestly got discouraged.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 1: I came in front, but more so and poorly man like,

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Speaker 1: I definitely won't bring up one story about your cousin

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Speaker 1: because you brought up half. I remember one day, Bro,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if y'all ever saw the movie Juice.

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Speaker 4: Y'all saw Juice. Y'all saw Juice? Okay, y'all.

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Speaker 1: I remember how Tupac act when he saw roder Mass

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Speaker 1: and then he'll see his crew and then he'll be like, yo,

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Speaker 1: what's up? He get it busting?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 1: So one day, Bro, and he gonna he gonna he

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Speaker 1: this pod call him listen. So one day, bro, I'm

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Speaker 1: What Chicago Ship? So I'm like, so when I go

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Speaker 1: Then he could straighten this issue for me. They about

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Speaker 1: He looked dead at Homie like I said, right there.

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Speaker 1: He said, oh him right here, him right here, laid

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Speaker 1: him clean out boot. I'm talking about light skinned dude too.

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Speaker 1: So it's like I'm talking about his whole hour was

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Speaker 3: He first listened, when he first said, how what I said,

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Speaker 3: heavy hitter with heavy hitter broke he from the guards,

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Speaker 3: from the guard He not from the guards, but he

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Speaker 3: lived okay, living Cooper Park say that yeah, shout out

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Speaker 3: to cool park. Mother.

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Speaker 1: Hey, so look when dude fell out. Boom, dude, some dude.

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Speaker 3: So gangster, I ain't gonna be li He found my

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Speaker 3: next class soon. He walked to my next class. He

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Speaker 3: tell me, broke. When I heal up, I'm whooping your ass.

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Speaker 4: That way.

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Speaker 3: He told me, man, you haven't get like a twelve

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Speaker 3: day suspension off this ship.

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Speaker 1: So boom. All right, dude held up about a month.

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Speaker 1: Go by, dude, come back to school now all you

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Speaker 1: hit around the school man coley on. Dude back in school, man,

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Speaker 1: he say he's fina whoop your ass. Bro, he just

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Speaker 1: waiting on you at school. So man, you I can't

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Speaker 1: be no mad. So I walked after school, walked out

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, as long as I get to this Vincent's

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Speaker 4: Bro.

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Speaker 3: I walked out of school. I'll tell you I've seen

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Speaker 3: about thirty motherfuckers behind me.

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Speaker 4: Bro.

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Speaker 1: I said, oh I can't run, on Kody, Oh, I

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Speaker 1: can't run. But look, if you know Julian right when

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Speaker 1: you ride down her third bro, it's once you get

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Speaker 1: past the school, it's like a little driveway right there.

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Speaker 1: Tell me who I see walking out that little driveway

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Speaker 1: hound Watari lance.

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Speaker 4: Now I look back, I said, Man, what the fuck.

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Speaker 1: Is up man about that ship?

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Speaker 3: Wants something? Man, you got a problem with me? Man, listen, Bro,

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Speaker 3: I tell you, Bro, we was on the rumble with

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Speaker 3: about twenty five guys.

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Speaker 4: Bro.

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Speaker 1: Bro. Right then and there, I was like he my brothers.

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Speaker 3: Bro.

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Speaker 1: But again what ended up happening? Bro? Everybody went back

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Speaker 1: to school. Guess what kind of suspension they gave me?

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Speaker 1: Ten days suspension. I'm the only one guy suspended that day. Man.

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Speaker 1: And then right then and there I knew. I was like, Bro,

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Speaker 1: I'm not plugging into this, this hoop lot thing that

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Speaker 1: they got at. Julian ended up dropping out. Bro, I

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Speaker 1: ended up missing a whole lot of days. Truancy officers

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Speaker 1: came and from there, Bro, I ain't gonna lie. I

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Speaker 1: started to, you know, try to do the street life. Man,

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Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie. I dropped cold turkey. My mama

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Speaker 1: up moving from off ninety fifth without even mean knowing,

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Speaker 1: and uh you know, uh, because we talked about it.

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Speaker 1: This why I'm elaborating one day, you know, being on

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Speaker 1: the block. You know, shit happens, bro, you know, and

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Speaker 1: some bullets came past my head. You know, we were

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Speaker 1: and you know for the shot at us, you know

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Speaker 1: they was, they was, you know, some gds you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean at the time, and uh, they pull

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Speaker 1: and they pull up on me and they sell me like, hey, man,

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Speaker 1: y'all ain't sposa be sorry, and y'all just hit one

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Speaker 1: our gout now. Manager, it's about twenty five of these guys.

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Speaker 1: No exaggeration. We on fortnighte Indiana. No exaggeration.

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Speaker 4: What the fuck is you doing on forty nine in Indiana?

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Speaker 1: Man, I'm out here, I'm out there. I'm under the act.

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Speaker 1: I'm under the act. I'm under the act. I'm under

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Speaker 1: the act. Though you know what I'm saying, I'm under

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Speaker 1: the act. You know, my cousin they I don't even

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Speaker 1: speak to my cuk till this day.

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Speaker 3: But just to realize, you know, you had me out

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Speaker 3: here doing all this extra shit, and I'm a pro,

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Speaker 3: I'm a whole pro.

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Speaker 1: I'm doing all this shit. My daddy got killed. But meanwhile,

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Speaker 1: make a long story short. Man, you know that happened.

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Speaker 1: Them guys come back me, I go get my partner.

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Speaker 3: Me.

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Speaker 1: I say, man, I'm so scared, Bro. I'm talking about

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Speaker 1: literally so scared. I think I smoked a cigarette that day. Bro. Listen, Bro,

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Speaker 1: I tell them, I say, man, listen, brother, about twenty

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Speaker 1: five guys out there. Man, they talking about they need

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Speaker 1: to talk to a chief.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 1: I say, Man, go on out there and holler at them.

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Speaker 1: Let me know. I'm telling you, I'm ready to run upstairs,

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Speaker 1: jump the motherfucker five staircase and gonna run out the

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Speaker 1: back way. I'm so scared you and me. He went

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Speaker 1: out there hollering them for me. I said, Man, you

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Speaker 1: know what I'm getting up out of here? Jet livery cab?

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Speaker 1: You mean I don't know y'all remember jelivery jelivery cab.

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Speaker 1: It's a service service cab called jailivery cab servy Bro,

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Speaker 1: and I shoot pad, I t that's my first time

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Speaker 1: ever seeing it in my life, Bro, my first time

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Speaker 1: seeing it. I see all type of European cars out there.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, dangn, what's going on? I tell the cave stop. Bro.

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Speaker 1: Let me out right here, man, I got a bank

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Speaker 1: roll on. I said, let me out right here. He

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Speaker 1: let me all right there. I walk in there. I

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Speaker 1: think I gotta pay. I ain't got to pay his

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Speaker 1: free walk in there. Guess what I see? Jason straight.

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Speaker 4: Look hey, he like, man, what's up? So he's like, man,

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Speaker 4: you got big as hell?

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Speaker 1: Man? He looking at me like.

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Speaker 3: I'm like yeah, Bro, He's like you who I'm so embarrassing, man,

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Speaker 3: I don't even want to tell me I dropped out.

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Speaker 1: I ain't got put out. I'm literally out here on

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Speaker 1: my own bro him bro everything. I love man. Who

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Speaker 1: Guess who we played?

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Speaker 3: Though?

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Speaker 1: We played Seine Marianna Marion played tricks, big shot tricks.

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Speaker 1: I killed this.

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Speaker 4: I killed I had about like eighteen. But guess who

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Speaker 4: in the stands. Guess who you know?

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Speaker 1: Guess what everybody's waiting on to come to see player three?

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Speaker 3: That's what they Guess what they're trying to say. I said, okay, cool, now,

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Speaker 3: mad you? I remember three? Or from uh from West

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Speaker 3: Pullman what they used to call it? A small fry,

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Speaker 3: small fry. I remember I remember playing against Will Small.

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Speaker 3: I was too big to play. I never played, but

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Speaker 3: I remember going up there playing one game and they

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Speaker 3: let me play. But I remember three or from that,

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Speaker 3: and I'm like, damn, Thriell, they come, they straight like

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Speaker 3: they come. Everybody comes see three. I'm like, damn, he

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Speaker 1: I'm like, I ain't know that.

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Speaker 3: So when we go downstairs, you know in the program,

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Speaker 3: right when you're done, you gotta go downstairs in the

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Speaker 3: locker room, and I see three three right there with

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Speaker 3: Coach long Street, you know long Street, big as hell.

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Speaker 3: He just shaking heat real ar again. He looked yeah,

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Speaker 3: he like he looking at me like yeah, I saw

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Speaker 3: him play like three. Was like, no, I could use you, bro.

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Speaker 3: He's like, I just took a blue division to a

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Speaker 3: red division. Remember remember they got blue last week blue

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Speaker 3: if you was in the blue Yoke team, but if

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Speaker 3: you red well or you red South, like Red South

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Speaker 3: was too you knowee what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: So he took Crane to the Red West. And he

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Speaker 1: told me like, Bro, I get you, but I'm so embarrassed,

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Speaker 1: I don't even wanna tell. I dropped out, and so

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Speaker 1: just so happened.

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Speaker 4: Bro.

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Speaker 1: When I left there, Bro, I go back to my

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Speaker 1: on ninety fifth, to my mama house, and at this

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Speaker 1: time I didn't even know she had moved. She moved.

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Speaker 1: So I get to the crib.

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Speaker 3: All the folks in the hood like your mama moved

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Speaker 3: by like a month ago, two months ago. Bro, your

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Speaker 3: mama been gone. I'm like, damn, So go back to

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Speaker 3: the jailvery cab boom, go to my grandma house. Grandma like, man,

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Speaker 3: you know, Mama say don't well, don't come nowhere near her.

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Speaker 3: She's straight.

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Speaker 1: She threw with you. What I say, grandmam, I'm about

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Speaker 1: to get back in school. I just holl let some people,

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Speaker 1: they say, get me in school. Yeah, what end up happening?

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Speaker 1: Grandma said, well, baby, she stayed twenty one fifty's randall

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Speaker 1: twenty one right, Look so look twenty one fifty rand. Dog, Look,

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Speaker 1: this is God in God. That's on Lake Street, Crane

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Speaker 1: So it ain't like you know back then, if you

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Speaker 1: ain't stay in the area, you can't really play. You

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Speaker 1: remember that.

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Speaker 4: So he's like, oh, man, this is God. So I

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Speaker 4: gotta get it right.

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Speaker 1: And just so happened. Man, I don't get home. Let

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Speaker 1: no pod can go past without giving wheel bite on

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Speaker 1: his flower because he actually brought me back to that

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Speaker 1: life of basketball.

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Speaker 2: I was what projects straight from when I was in

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Speaker 2: the projects with j straight planning to like too in

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Speaker 2: the morning, Iggy the projects with him. They got the

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Speaker 2: cars all on the court, all sorts of that.

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Speaker 1: It's like two in the morning straight for dumb ball. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: real different.

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Speaker 2: So when you went to Crane and you start really

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Speaker 2: seeing like what's going on? What was the transition of

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Speaker 2: you getting there and start trying to because now you're

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Speaker 2: so behind that you can't get the scholarships that you want.

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Speaker 1: So you gotta go the loan route.

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Speaker 2: We call that the loan rod long run jucos or

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Speaker 2: you gotta go to the prep schools. What was that

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Speaker 2: process for you to stay in that lane, to go

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Speaker 2: that route?

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Speaker 4: I was in it.

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Speaker 1: I was in it by then. You know, uh Will

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Speaker 1: was showing me like yo, He's like, man, Yo, this

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Speaker 1: what's up? Rock? I got invited to the Fast Start

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Speaker 1: East invitation. I got invited to whether A B, C,

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Speaker 1: D or all them little camps. And I'm looking like

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Speaker 1: what the highly recruited too. I'm like, what is you

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Speaker 1: talking about? Bro? What is this you didn't even know about?

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Speaker 4: Like what is this a chess club?

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Speaker 1: But where is you getting all these jerseys from? Bro?

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Speaker 1: I ain't got one. And then he was breaking it

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Speaker 1: down to me like, yeah, bro, you got play au

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Speaker 1: you gotta. By that time, it was like too late.

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Speaker 4: I was a junior.

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Speaker 1: Yeah old, Like I'm like, all right, you fall behind.

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00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:33,600
Speaker 3: So I was like, then, man, you I don't even

436
00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:35,560
Speaker 3: want to talk about ship. When I got the crane,

437
00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:38,520
Speaker 3: I had point five credits right now, when you're a junior,

438
00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:38,800
Speaker 3: you you.

439
00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:43,240
Speaker 1: At least sixteen seventeen already. Meanwhile I got point five. Man,

440
00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:45,359
Speaker 1: that principle looked at me talking about some man, what

441
00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:48,960
Speaker 1: you need to be looking for a job? You feel me?

442
00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:52,680
Speaker 3: How did the butler the community college come and play

443
00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:56,320
Speaker 3: like this saying stack Jack went stack Jack went to

444
00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:59,440
Speaker 3: Buller Community Ye, yeah.

445
00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:06,240
Speaker 1: That's history. I didn't even know that. Yes, So list

446
00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:09,600
Speaker 1: is so boom was obviously I get eligible with my

447
00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:12,680
Speaker 1: senior year boom. And so I get so that, I say,

448
00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:14,439
Speaker 1: how I got that? So magic boom. So as soon

449
00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:16,879
Speaker 1: as I get out, let's just say I graduate from

450
00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:20,480
Speaker 1: high school. Boom. I go to Long Street and I say, man,

451
00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:23,200
Speaker 1: what school you got for me? He was like, what

452
00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:27,800
Speaker 1: school he was like, shit, ain't no school. So at

453
00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:30,879
Speaker 1: the time, he was like, boom, and I'm just founding

454
00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:32,760
Speaker 1: this out twenty years ago because I've been so mad

455
00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:35,280
Speaker 1: at in Long Street for him not having no school

456
00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:37,639
Speaker 1: for me, you know what I'm saying. And he told me,

457
00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:40,080
Speaker 1: which makes sense now that I look back, and big

458
00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:42,080
Speaker 1: shot of the Long Street he said, Man, you remember

459
00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:45,080
Speaker 1: at the time I told you about prep school. I say,

460
00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:47,359
Speaker 1: you right on street. So it's been a misunderstanding this

461
00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:49,840
Speaker 1: this whole time with my Coadwe I'm talking about my man.

462
00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:52,320
Speaker 1: We talked every day now, but he had brought up

463
00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:55,440
Speaker 1: prep school and I at the time, I'm like, man,

464
00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:58,600
Speaker 1: prep school wasn't the thing back then, my fuck, go

465
00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:00,000
Speaker 1: to prep school. I'm like, what you done?

466
00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,840
Speaker 4: I'm in hell twenty years old in prep school.

467
00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:08,800
Speaker 1: You're doing the prep school Now today that's the thing.

468
00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:10,960
Speaker 1: But back then, I was like, man, how the funk

469
00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to prep school? When Will Bannam got

470
00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:16,880
Speaker 1: a he and his junior year, he got a full

471
00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:21,480
Speaker 1: commitment to everything, Yeah, that was It didn't make sense

472
00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:24,360
Speaker 1: to me. So I ain't taking over. I just worked out.

473
00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:26,560
Speaker 1: I kept working out, I kept working out, kept working

474
00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:27,960
Speaker 1: out in the summer time.

475
00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:29,240
Speaker 4: Here I t came back.

476
00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:31,840
Speaker 1: You know, I T what it is? He asked about Butler.

477
00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:34,159
Speaker 1: Right so, now, I don't know if y'all remember a

478
00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:38,400
Speaker 1: cat named James Peters. Damn y'all remember James. James Peter

479
00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:40,080
Speaker 1: went to junior he was He was supposed to the

480
00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:43,040
Speaker 1: Leon Smith. He played just like him. He pold to

481
00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:45,840
Speaker 1: you know, well, went out of high school. Come to

482
00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:48,320
Speaker 1: find out James Peters was then at twenty three years old.

483
00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:51,240
Speaker 1: My man, shout out, James p I know you're gonna

484
00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:52,120
Speaker 1: see about love you brother?

485
00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:57,240
Speaker 4: A hell you? He so.

486
00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:02,520
Speaker 1: List So I catch him at the I playing on

487
00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:06,280
Speaker 1: the team boom. So when he playing boom, I'm like, man,

488
00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:08,440
Speaker 1: what's up, bro? Why you ain't getting ready for the draft.

489
00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:12,720
Speaker 1: He's like, man, all right, come on, let's play. We

490
00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:15,199
Speaker 1: play boy. I killed soon we I b listened, bro,

491
00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:18,119
Speaker 1: I can't make this up. Soon we get done playing.

492
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:24,960
Speaker 1: He called coach Dennis Hams Junior College. Butler communicats. He say,

493
00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:29,520
Speaker 1: I got a guard six folk right now, really now

494
00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:31,520
Speaker 1: manager at this time eighteen years old, but I ain't

495
00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:32,280
Speaker 1: never been on a plane.

496
00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:32,960
Speaker 4: Damn my life.

497
00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:36,399
Speaker 1: They just send me about five tickets. I would have

498
00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:42,520
Speaker 1: missed five flights. I'm lost, like mother, I said, man,

499
00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:47,000
Speaker 1: look at at what's going on? Well, so I went

500
00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:51,680
Speaker 1: to Delta. I went to American Airlines just to find

501
00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,720
Speaker 1: out my flight was SOLF what So the room was

502
00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:57,080
Speaker 1: supposed to have been I supposed to got there twelve.

503
00:23:57,680 --> 00:23:59,720
Speaker 1: The room was supposed to be Friday that night. I

504
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:02,439
Speaker 1: ain't get there till Saturday. Imagine I gotta beat out

505
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:06,280
Speaker 1: of Jamaican cat, a cat from the walls, and some.

506
00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:07,560
Speaker 4: Cat from Australia.

507
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:09,200
Speaker 1: Man, I'm out there, when I tell you, I'm giving

508
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:11,439
Speaker 1: them my averson crossover, my twime.

509
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,720
Speaker 4: I'm I'm getting all this town ship man.

510
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,439
Speaker 1: Within the fourth game, man coach Hams calling blew the whispers,

511
00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:23,320
Speaker 1: Hey Tony to come upstairs. Hey man, you uh you

512
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:25,880
Speaker 1: will be at tending hig Scholarship. I ain't even read

513
00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:26,280
Speaker 1: that much.

514
00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:26,960
Speaker 4: I just signed.

515
00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:28,600
Speaker 1: Come on, man.

516
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:30,879
Speaker 4: I called my mama, Hey, mama, going to college.

517
00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:32,240
Speaker 1: She said, boy, if you gonna come back here and

518
00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:38,320
Speaker 1: sign the application to Walden all these and goddamn it, dominick,

519
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,880
Speaker 1: Yeah you feel her dominant.

520
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:45,240
Speaker 4: That that what she was on.

521
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:47,959
Speaker 1: But you know I got my first scholarship.

522
00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:48,200
Speaker 4: Man.

523
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:50,479
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna like it started getting real then how

524
00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:54,240
Speaker 1: you wind up at walbag Man, I ain't even gonna

525
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:57,239
Speaker 1: keep going Okay, I want I want to keep going

526
00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:01,119
Speaker 1: this here man? Well right, so how so boom so

527
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:03,760
Speaker 1: Jane Peter's manager. He got me to the school Boom.

528
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,480
Speaker 1: I ended up becoming a freshman of the year in

529
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:09,159
Speaker 1: that conference. I ended up you know, killing so. But

530
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,159
Speaker 1: you know me and my shot town instinct. You know

531
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna fast something up. You feel, don't lie after

532
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:16,919
Speaker 1: season nowhere, I'm blowing it down. It's just that simple,

533
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 1: you feel. And so in the in the in the

534
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:21,200
Speaker 1: dorms though it's here, you right on them before you

535
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,879
Speaker 1: walk in the door. No smoking, some alcohol, this, that

536
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,959
Speaker 1: and the other. So I'm thinking season over with man,

537
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:29,399
Speaker 1: I'm like, it's over with what they won't like? You

538
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:29,800
Speaker 1: feel me?

539
00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:31,520
Speaker 4: So I got the.

540
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:34,640
Speaker 1: Candles, I got them in fresh Fresh, I'm talking about

541
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:37,040
Speaker 1: everything set up. I'm fine. I'm blazed up.

542
00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:40,720
Speaker 3: Bro, Tell everybody, folks, I'm knock on the door.

543
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:43,960
Speaker 1: You hate that knock when you're blowing. I'm like, damn,

544
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 1: what don't they know? I mean, I'm knowing the whole dorm. No,

545
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:50,840
Speaker 1: I'm fin the five. I already told bro, it's them

546
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:52,920
Speaker 1: bringing me my motherfucking Freshman.

547
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:56,480
Speaker 4: Of the year war. Oh wow. So the athletic director boom,

548
00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:57,040
Speaker 4: he's smelling.

549
00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:01,160
Speaker 1: I closed though, I'm like, what's up. I'm trying eyes blush,

550
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 1: I rid, what's up?

551
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 3: Man?

552
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 1: Hey, hey, hey, he'll go you award. Uh, make sure

553
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:12,040
Speaker 1: you come to the athletic the rest of the first

554
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:13,400
Speaker 1: thing in the morning before you go to class. I'm

555
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 1: all right, cool, go down there. First thing they got

556
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 1: down there was and you finished blowing after.

557
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 3: You, man, hell yeah, hell yeah. And so that look

558
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 3: out the war one up after that. But they had,

559
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:27,879
Speaker 3: but they had they had to try to, like to

560
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,560
Speaker 3: try to surprise me with the award. I had knew

561
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:32,480
Speaker 3: I had the war. Yeah, you see what I'm saying. So,

562
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:34,360
Speaker 3: but make a long story short, man.

563
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,680
Speaker 1: I went down there, took the piss test, Brouh held

564
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,680
Speaker 1: the pitts tests, and they kicked me out. Man. I

565
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:42,880
Speaker 1: remember just getting out of class coming back home. Man,

566
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 1: all my Jordan boxes was sitting outside, my clothes, my teeth.

567
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:53,240
Speaker 1: They just kicked you out. It's clearly tell you no smoking. Yeah,

568
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:55,800
Speaker 1: but they ain't just tell you like we don't want

569
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 1: you no more, but you can go and get your

570
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 1: in my room, boxed my shit up, took my TV down,

571
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 1: took my shoes, put all my shoes, and just left

572
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 1: his sitting right there. And so they was like, yo,

573
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 1: coach Hams will be talking to you shortly and shout

574
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:15,200
Speaker 1: out coach Hams.

575
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:15,359
Speaker 3: Man.

576
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,200
Speaker 1: He was able to reach out to the national Junior

577
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 1: college people who won the championship with is Wald Bads.

578
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,399
Speaker 1: They won the championship. They had a cat name Antoine Barber.

579
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 1: He had ended up. You know, he was supposed to

580
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:29,679
Speaker 1: he was the MVP. He was supposed to actually leave

581
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:33,200
Speaker 1: out a junior college. It would have been three junior

582
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 1: college players go straight to the league. Quent Tail was

583
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 1: Keydrick Brown, and it had been Antoine Barber. Now Managin.

584
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:40,680
Speaker 1: Antoine Barber averaged more points than all of them and

585
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:45,159
Speaker 1: won the National Junior College Association Championship. He came back

586
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:49,160
Speaker 1: to school. So he came back to school. They lost

587
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 1: a two guard. They was like, we need a two guard.

588
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 1: They look go along with him. He was the point guard.

589
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 1: You fee what I'm saying. So school reached out and

590
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:57,480
Speaker 1: they was like, yo, we can bring y'all Tony Ellen

591
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 1: and that's how I got that, so you get.

592
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 4: The walk back.

593
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:05,200
Speaker 2: How did it feel when now the big time colleges,

594
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 2: the colleges that you see on TV, you know what

595
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 2: I'm saying, like the Oklahoma States, the Clems and the Cincinnatis,

596
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:17,679
Speaker 2: Michigan State, all of them showing interest in you. How

597
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,119
Speaker 2: did you feel when you first seen one of them

598
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 2: letters or your culture anybody just told you like, yeah,

599
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 2: this college here want to look at you.

600
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:30,960
Speaker 1: It wasn't that, man, It won't that. It was ain't

601
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,399
Speaker 1: nobody looking at you. Bro, They looking at dude. You

602
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,440
Speaker 1: gotta figure the only motherfucker that's bringing colleges in town,

603
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 1: it's Antoine Barber.

604
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 2: But I'm just saying, like, right, I understand that, but

605
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 2: I'm talking about but once state start seeing you with

606
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 2: them and they start offering you.

607
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 1: They didn't offer me until a seasons though, That's what

608
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:49,240
Speaker 1: I'm trying to tell you. So it was like it

609
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 1: was crazy or because you gotta figure this man got

610
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 1: every school coming to him. Then boom soon he soon

611
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 1: as he signed with Kentucky. NWA, it's a drought. You

612
00:28:58,040 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 1: don't see none of them coaches no more. But you said,

613
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 1: but you see one coach. Who was that Oklahoma steak

614
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 1: Okahoma stak shout out Glenn cipro Chase some fun funny story.

615
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 1: So now at this time, you know, back then, college

616
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 1: coach couldn't say nothing to you. They kind they like the.

617
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 3: Talking about every game. Ship front row. He's winking this ship,

618
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 3: winking this ship. I'm like, Paul, shut out, going on, man,

619
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 3: you're still showing up winking at me and ship the

620
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:44,480
Speaker 3: fuck is going on around? Shut up, shut up coach

621
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 3: because he was more like a father figure to me too, bro,

622
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 3: because he he really was a genuine and you don't

623
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 3: find too many people that genuine like this.

624
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 1: And so boom after the season. You know, I finish

625
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 1: up in junior college rank, I was all American whatever whatever,

626
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 1: And at the end of the year, it was like boom,

627
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 1: the coach came with all the letters. I don't know

628
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 1: if he was doing that to be like keep me focused,

629
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 1: ground keep me grounded. And then he came out of

630
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 1: nowhere like yeah, you know, we got Arizona State, They're

631
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 1: they're very interested. Uh, Miter State is interested. Cratlings and

632
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 1: Cincinnati even came back. And then we got West Virginia.

633
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, all these people want to get a

634
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 1: visit with you all, and I forgot Yeah, Oklahoma State,

635
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 1: Oklahoma State. I'm like, ship, I've been seeing Oklahoma State

636
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 1: all mother.

637
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 3: Yeah.

638
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 4: Yeah. I'm like, shit, ain't they've been interested. I'm like,

639
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 4: i gotta go see what's up.

640
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:36,240
Speaker 1: He was like yeah, but you know they got a

641
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 1: senior in front of you, and uh, if you get there,

642
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 1: you know they got the most TV games. I'm trying

643
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 1: to I need, I need to pick and roll all

644
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 1: this ship. You're talking about what you got going on?

645
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 3: Bro?

646
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 1: Man, I told him I'm going on my first visit

647
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 1: of Oklahoma State. Man. When I got down there, problem

648
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 1: rest in peace, Edie Sutton. Man, I got down there, man,

649
00:30:57,800 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 1: you know obviously they showed me a good time.

650
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:00,120
Speaker 4: Man.

651
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 1: Man, When I got in front of Eddie soon he

652
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 1: was looking like the Godfather.

653
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:04,239
Speaker 4: Man.

654
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 1: He looked back at Liv's cross looking at him. Man,

655
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 1: ain't saw none of my games. The man like, yeah,

656
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 1: they told me you're a pretty tough defender. You can score.

657
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 1: And I'm like, damn, folks, I ain't seen Mama. He

658
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 1: ain't seeing what he was working with. I'm like, I'm like,

659
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 1: all right, okay, that's what they told you. I'm like, well, listen, coach,

660
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 1: if I signed him, I'm like, yo, am I going

661
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 1: to the league? No, cap, Well, I found my kids.

662
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 1: He looked back. He said, that's a good question.

663
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 3: He was like, well, you know what if you do

664
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 3: everything I asked you to do far as this team,

665
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 3: and you know you play hard on the defensive end

666
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 3: and do everything out there, I don't see why not,

667
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 3: I said, coach, come on, what cous.

668
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I'm good man. They got

669
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 1: at like nine ESPN games. Man, you I ain't triven

670
00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 1: about the singing in front of me. Man, you ain't

671
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 1: trined about the other all American junior college guard that

672
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 1: y'all saying. I'm finna go out here. I'm finna outwork

673
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 1: you people.

674
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 4: I'm from Chicago, Joe, I ain't got man. You folks

675
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 4: you hit with no hez O like, did you folks.

676
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 1: Ship you feel me? That's and that was my approach

677
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 1: when I got there. And uh, like I said, when

678
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 1: I got that, man, I ended up becoming Newcomer of

679
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 1: the Year.

680
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 4: Bro.

681
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 2: So first time I heard your name, you know it's

682
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 2: a guy about to say it's a guy from where

683
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 2: I'm from. Man, he averaged like thirty two. His senior

684
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 2: year name Maurice Baker.

685
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 3: Oh big shut out the most, no matter of fact. Listen,

686
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 3: while we're talking about More, I used to watch More.

687
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 3: I'm a fan of More Baker because I used to

688
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 3: look at it like, damn they letting that boy getting busy.

689
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 1: I'm for real, fool, I'm talking to We played this

690
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 1: in my high school. Listen, Bro, I saw that and

691
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 1: that orange and black looked at so.

692
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 4: I ain't gonna have orange.

693
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 1: Os U Jersey look come up and Bro, I used

694
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 1: to see him. I used to be like, damn, hold

695
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 1: out here doing this thing. Yeah, And so when I

696
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 1: got there and I actually got a chance to meet him,

697
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 1: I told him in his face he could stamped it.

698
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 1: I say, Bro, only reason why I want to come here.

699
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 1: I want to be able to get loose like how

700
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 1: you got him, I promise you. Yeah, that's a fact.

701
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 2: Bro Baker paces now yeah, yeah, Mo Baker Man one

702
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 2: of my big brothers. Man.

703
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 1: He two years like you above me. Man, he ever

704
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 1: a thirty two is senior year like he played for

705
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 1: what the Eagles?

706
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 4: Right?

707
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, he played He played for the Eagles. But he

708
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 2: played for Madison. One of the coldest dudes I ever

709
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 2: played with or played against. Man the first time I

710
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 2: ever heard your name, he.

711
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 1: Told me that you was cold, like you was not.

712
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 4: Nah.

713
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 2: We got this dude Tony Allen, like he he it

714
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 2: and I'm like, who, I ain't never even heard of

715
00:33:58,640 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 2: him from Chicago?

716
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 1: I was, I ain't never even.

717
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 4: Heard He's like at the backblocks.

718
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 2: He was like, nah, I'm telling you. So after that,

719
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 2: I start following you everything that you did. You know

720
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, every all the college games and all that,

721
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 2: because I was looking at him and following him because

722
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,400
Speaker 2: even though he was above me. I went to the

723
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:21,240
Speaker 2: league straight out of high school, he was in college,

724
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 2: so I was always following him to see what he

725
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:27,319
Speaker 2: was doing. But that made me follow you too. How

726
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:29,279
Speaker 2: was it when you got there?

727
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:31,920
Speaker 1: When I got to Oklham, it was cool, Like I

728
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,400
Speaker 1: can't front like I was. I was seeing just the

729
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 1: work ethic these folks had me. Like these folks had

730
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:41,720
Speaker 1: me like working out right in between classes. I workout,

731
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 1: but like they'll come get me in the morning too,

732
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 1: Like I do individual workouts by myself in the morning,

733
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 1: and it'd be like, damn why y'all got me in

734
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 1: here by myself.

735
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 3: So I guess they saw something in me. And then

736
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:56,400
Speaker 3: I was always a steady member of the nightclub, like

737
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:57,320
Speaker 3: I'm coming.

738
00:34:57,719 --> 00:34:59,839
Speaker 1: To a steady member. No, no, I'm talking. I'm coming

739
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:01,840
Speaker 1: far as basketball, like I'm coming to the gym shooting

740
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:03,719
Speaker 1: that gun. Remember that gun came out around that time,

741
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,399
Speaker 1: two thousand and two, two thousand and three. For that gun,

742
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 1: it was the gun. So I'm shooting on the gun

743
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,320
Speaker 1: like I'm like, I like this machine. So although that

744
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:14,240
Speaker 1: motherfuckers been clanking there since I got up at that motherfucker,

745
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 1: I was. I was an aviad member of the gun and.

746
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,240
Speaker 3: Just going out working on my game, and so getting

747
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:23,359
Speaker 3: there and seeing just the coaching staff really looking at

748
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 3: me like I'm different, it kind of really boosted my mentality.

749
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:28,319
Speaker 1: It had got to the point, Bro, once I got

750
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 1: a Newcomer of the year Bro. Right after the year, Bro,

751
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 1: they brought me in the manager. That's the year bron

752
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 1: them coming out.

753
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 3: Bro.

754
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:39,399
Speaker 1: These folks set me down in a meeting. BRO had

755
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 1: me crying, Bro, telling me all the deficiencies in my game,

756
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:45,920
Speaker 1: telling me I ain't ready for the league. Bro, I

757
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 1: wasn't even thinking about the league, right, I'm like, damn.

758
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 1: So they thinking like, okay, I got new think I'm

759
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 1: gonna just dial. But I wasn't thinking about dipping in.

760
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:58,759
Speaker 1: But I really appreciated them just having that much. You

761
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:00,239
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Just they put a lot of

762
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:00,800
Speaker 1: interest in me.

763
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 4: Bro what that.

764
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 3: Was it? After your junior There had to be after

765
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 3: your junior year. The first year you came to uh

766
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 3: to hoops and was hooping, said that, look, so look,

767
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 3: so look Joe, look Joe is he in there with

768
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:18,840
Speaker 3: old Clay Oklahoma station. So listen, so listen right, you're right,

769
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 3: so listen. Yeah, so shout out my homie Schoop Man,

770
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 3: my homie Scoop, and he had end up on how

771
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 3: did that come about?

772
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 1: So Scoop, I don't know, Scoop, No, what's it is it?

773
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 1: So Scoop no rep? And then so boom Rep telling him,

774
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 1: ro man, I got to college, were gonna be We

775
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 1: liked that. We like that now, so madg you boom

776
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 1: so school, get me in the gym. We in the gym,

777
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 1: you know, we pull up dropped top s L five,

778
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:47,360
Speaker 1: you know, we looking like y'all in that we get it.

779
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 1: That joint boom and uh man, I sat down about

780
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,879
Speaker 1: thirteen month games. Man, you know they ain't get to play.

781
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,400
Speaker 1: You know, you see you don't get no run on this,

782
00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:01,399
Speaker 1: Like what's going on? So I finally get in that joint.

783
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 1: I finally get in for members only, members only, bro, And.

784
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 3: I've been hearing a few stories about my fuckers saying that,

785
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 3: so that's that's really how Tim was running his program,

786
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,759
Speaker 3: paying that that ope, y'all gonna pay till y'all get tacked,

787
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 3: which is understandable.

788
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:18,240
Speaker 1: But for me though, it's like that I'm around pro motherfucker.

789
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 1: And Q had set down this time too. You was

790
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,360
Speaker 1: like you was taed too. You had sit down and

791
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:24,319
Speaker 1: you saw me. I think we won the first game,

792
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 1: then we played the next game. Then when I had lost,

793
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 1: as soon as I sent down, I can't sit back.

794
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:33,360
Speaker 1: Q Q looked at me. He was like, hey, shorty,

795
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 1: well you go to Oklahoma State.

796
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:35,920
Speaker 3: Uh.

797
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 1: I'm like yeah, he like, and you a pro im

798
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 1: promised O A god, Bro, you don't know how much

799
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 1: that they did my confidence. Bro, I ain't gonna even

800
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 1: laugh that next year killer. Couldn't nobody tell my bad?

801
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 1: Couldn't nobody tell me. I wanted to pro. Couldn't nobody

802
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 1: tell me? I wanted to pro?

803
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 3: I mean, you know we did though. We sat in

804
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:58,279
Speaker 3: that gym and any young boys that came through, that

805
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 3: was what it was. If you saw somebody who you

806
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 3: knew it.

807
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:01,839
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.

808
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 3: We did it too long, bro, I said. I was like,

809
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:06,320
Speaker 3: cause I remember asking TG and G and I'm like,

810
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 3: who the fuck is that? Like, you know what I'm saying,

811
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:10,320
Speaker 3: Because he had, like you say, six four motherfucker. We

812
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 3: had had the athletic body, the strong shit.

813
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 4: But I saw the.

814
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 3: Athleticism and the defense that shit shined through immediately and

815
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 3: it was like dog shit. So I was like, hold on,

816
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:22,319
Speaker 3: I'm sitting there, I said, there watching one yard, watch

817
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 3: two games.

818
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:24,399
Speaker 1: I'm looking at folks.

819
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 4: I'm like, like she home over here, like sit in

820
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 4: college right now.

821
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 3: I'm like, while the games and shit going on, I

822
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:33,799
Speaker 3: walk up by ass teacher like who like he like yeah,

823
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 3: he shit?

824
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:35,799
Speaker 1: And then they telling me.

825
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:37,800
Speaker 3: Like motherfucker with the crawn like he was the crane.

826
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:40,279
Speaker 3: I ain't never seen that, heard nothing about him. I'm like,

827
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:43,400
Speaker 3: all right, whatever, it don't matter. You know, when you

828
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:45,800
Speaker 3: see certain shit, don't matter what you heard of what

829
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 3: you know. I was just looking and I'm like, nah,

830
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 3: this motherfucker one of them, bro, Like I'm watching how

831
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 3: he moving out here, like he could get like he

832
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 3: could hoop with us, Like you know what I'm saying,

833
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 3: Like nah, he came out.

834
00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 4: I was sitting out like yeah, like nah, you nice.

835
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 1: Like you know what I'm from that point on when

836
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 1: you told me that, and I was telling them, I

837
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 1: told everybody named Mama cute went told me I'm a pro. Q.

838
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 1: I went from the south side, the west side, east side.

839
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:13,279
Speaker 1: Q just told me I'm a pro bro. Before you

840
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 1: knew it, man, you had every morn fucker in the

841
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 1: city trying to invest in Tony out. Hey man, you

842
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 1: need this, you need this, hey man, come rad this

843
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 1: cop back. And I was saying, I'm like, Yo, it's

844
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:28,359
Speaker 1: really getting into that. It's really getting to that. Tell

845
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 1: me Like in college, I felt y'all was a solid team.

846
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 2: I felt y'all could have made a couple of attorney

847
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 2: runs what you feel happened in attorney for y'all because

848
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:38,880
Speaker 2: y'all had a solid, decent squad.

849
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 1: I'm going ahead tell y'all, man, I'm gonna tell y'all. Man,

850
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 1: I went and Final four. I was focused off through

851
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 1: the through to get to the folk I'm talking about.

852
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 1: We knocked off of Memphis, we knocked off Pittsburgh, We

853
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 1: knocked off a whole bunch of people. When we got

854
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 1: to the final four, was out.

855
00:39:59,440 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 4: Ain't gonna lie.

856
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,320
Speaker 1: I got a little excited, man, just to even you know,

857
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 1: be able to run back up with my you know,

858
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 1: high school teammate will bind on him, you know, actually

859
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 1: showing me them just getting me off the streets. Bro,

860
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Just you know what I'm saying,

861
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 1: him being able to be like man, bro basketball said

862
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:18,400
Speaker 1: like that shit you doing? Bro, I ain't nothing, Bro,

863
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 1: come do this, Bro.

864
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 4: This was this.

865
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 1: This is a move. That's the move right here. So

866
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 1: man for him, for me to get back and see that, Bro,

867
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie. I I bucked our curfew, I

868
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:32,719
Speaker 1: bucked the study hall and all that. I said, I

869
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 1: gotta go over there because around that time, you know,

870
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 1: the MMS message was going on the on the phone.

871
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,279
Speaker 1: You get to see in the video, Man, they are

872
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:44,399
Speaker 1: kigging it. They got women everywhere they hanging out.

873
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 4: Man.

874
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 3: Meanwhile, we and the motherfucker looking up algebra, trigue and

875
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:50,719
Speaker 3: all this shit. I'm like, man, this ain't it.

876
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 4: This ain't it.

877
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 1: Bro. I'm telling Luke Lucas my you know, John Lucas,

878
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 1: John Lucas was my hunniest he was my roommate. And

879
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 1: funny story how we got John Lucas. You know how

880
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 1: we got John Lucas after the crash, so right, he

881
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 1: had they had an incident over there, Baylor with one

882
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 1: of his homies off when his one of his teammates listen,

883
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:16,799
Speaker 1: Planecraft reci But I'm saying he got over there with us.

884
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 1: But meanwhile people don't know is Will Binnam. He had

885
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 1: transferred from Arizona and was gonna have to sit out

886
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:26,399
Speaker 1: the first half of the season, right, he told all

887
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 1: my coaches, I'm about to come to Oklahoma State. So

888
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 1: within that transaction, I don't know what part of the

889
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:39,840
Speaker 1: GP has sent them down south. But in that same

890
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:45,440
Speaker 1: instance that happened with Baylor with you know, a tragedy Haue,

891
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 1: and so Lucas said, you know what, I don't want

892
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 1: to play nowhere else. I need to transfer right now.

893
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 1: I need to go to Oklahoma State. C double a

894
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 1: man him play, right, away.

895
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 4: So to see that all come full circle and then

896
00:41:57,200 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 4: damn Boom were in the final four, were playing Georgia Tech.

897
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 1: I'm like, damn, this unreal and so you know, will

898
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 1: he hit me?

899
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 4: What's up?

900
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 3: Bro?

901
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 1: Heah, what y'all doing over there?

902
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:08,839
Speaker 4: Man?

903
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 1: Meanwhile, I got a sneak on the phone. We got

904
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 1: watching this. I'm like, man, Man, as soon as I

905
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 1: get out of here, bro on my way over there, Bro,

906
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:19,840
Speaker 1: and I went over there. I ain't gonna lie. I

907
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 1: had a good time.

908
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 3: I had.

909
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 1: A good job, man. I think if I had got

910
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 1: me some rest that game. Man, we probably would have

911
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 1: bust in senior year.

912
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 2: You know, you don't have no choice, no juco to

913
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:36,320
Speaker 2: go to, no other options. It's only league overseas. You

914
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. How many workouts you did?

915
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 1: See? How many teams in the league.

916
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 4: Like me?

917
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:47,240
Speaker 1: You did a twenty nine workout something close to runoffs. Mhmm.

918
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 1: That was the most shape I've ever been in as

919
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 1: an athlete doing all the workout.

920
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 2: And I know the workout process, like you'll workout in

921
00:42:57,239 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 2: Seattle and then you'll work out in Portland and next

922
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 2: day they might have a day off. Didn't work out

923
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:04,279
Speaker 2: in LA. I was ready, and that's why I love

924
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:06,359
Speaker 2: the program. Oklahoma, say them, folks, that's why I said.

925
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:09,880
Speaker 2: The early morning workouts and late night workouts and individuals, all.

926
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 1: That prepped me up. What was your best workout?

927
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 3: I remember being in Atlanta going against the real Right

928
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 3: one time. I'm telling me, y'all gotta get some better

929
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 3: players of this motherfucker. Like, yeah, I remember going to

930
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:25,880
Speaker 3: Memphis and tell them, man, hey man, you know what.

931
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 1: D Right was out of high school too. I'm like,

932
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 1: come on, bro, like some grown man stream excuse me

933
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 1: and one I'm talking about. We was in Atlanta and then.

934
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 1: But I tell you, I ain't gonna lie whenever I

935
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:41,759
Speaker 1: seen Trevor Reason, I ain't gonna lie. I don't even

936
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 1: know how he slipped. Trevor Reason. Damn motherfucker was him.

937
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:49,320
Speaker 1: He was with the shit, he was loan, he was competing,

938
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:51,399
Speaker 1: he was knocking down. Even in the drills. He hitting

939
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:54,799
Speaker 1: the motherfucker funny shit with trail. But I was at

940
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 1: the workout with him in the smooth and La. They

941
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 1: was about to fight. They got two. They had to

942
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 1: get broken up in the workout. Mm hmmm, true story.

943
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 1: See what I'm saying, and I forgot smooth my class too.

944
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 1: It's two thousand folk class. Let me ask you this,

945
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:10,799
Speaker 1: that two thousand.

946
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:16,319
Speaker 2: Folk class, it had like seven guys went straight out

947
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 2: of high school.

948
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:24,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, Al Jefferson, s Sebastian Te, Dwight, Derel, the real damn.

949
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 2: Hold on, it's a it's a few Smith Smith will

950
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 2: in that hold on. Hold On Swift, Yeah, swift, big

951
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 2: Robert Swift.

952
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:37,879
Speaker 1: Yep. Oh, that's what I forgot about Robert, about seven

953
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 1: eight guys in that class to two years after. But listen,

954
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:46,239
Speaker 1: that specific class though, I ain't gonna lie though. Man,

955
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 1: we was like everybody in there wanted to like get it,

956
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:54,399
Speaker 1: like I can't. The only pick that I was mad

957
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 1: in and I thought I opposed to went to what's

958
00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 1: the kurse? Snyder? When you talk about you, dude went

959
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 1: in the battle. I'm talking. I bust them. I bust

960
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 1: them in Utah. It took him, the team that took him.

961
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 1: I bust them and Jay, you know, Jay, y'all pulled up.

962
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:17,319
Speaker 1: I was killing so hard.

963
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:22,800
Speaker 3: Jay, I was like, no, listen, that's the thing about like,

964
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:25,839
Speaker 3: because I felt like that you remember like you didn't

965
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:27,360
Speaker 3: have as many workouts as me, but.

966
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:28,960
Speaker 1: Like I was looking for the smoke.

967
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 4: Two teams.

968
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 3: No, you didn't work out, so yeah, he had dinners

969
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 3: in conversations, yes, And I'm not listen the same I'm

970
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:39,959
Speaker 3: not saying that he wasn't. I didn't say you weren't

971
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 3: looking for this. I'm talking about what they was looking

972
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 3: for from you. The difference is, like you remember, that

973
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:47,280
Speaker 3: was my argument. I got picked eighteen in my draft

974
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 3: and I was cool with it at the end of

975
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:49,239
Speaker 3: the day.

976
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 4: But like, you know.

977
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 3: Facts, let's look at that shoot you because it would

978
00:45:56,760 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 3: have been in the teens though, But bro, I don't know,

979
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 3: but either way it go. I just know the same

980
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 3: exact thing you saying. It was people, And I'm not

981
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:09,840
Speaker 3: gonna name no names. Man, I was taking motherfucker's lunch money.

982
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:13,240
Speaker 1: Bro, you hear me. Oh, and I'm sitting here looking

983
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 1: like wait a.

984
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:18,400
Speaker 3: Mini, that's what was making me. You won't know until

985
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:20,839
Speaker 3: you see it. You will see a motherfucker just out

986
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 3: of know where. They doing the whole work out, doing

987
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:26,279
Speaker 3: the whole works soon as you get the cooking. You

988
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 3: heard me tell that story, heard you tell that story

989
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 3: about some people Like Bro, this motherfucker tapped.

990
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 1: Out on this that come from the agent saying, hold on, now,

991
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 1: you see yourself not doing good. Now, so tell us

992
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:43,279
Speaker 1: when the draft came. What did you do? Draft came in.

993
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna let men imber my homie, scoop Man,

994
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 1: ain't gonna We was chilling and you have the family around. Man, hey, listen, listen,

995
00:46:52,800 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 1: three hundred wings listen, Man, hey Man, two cases of

996
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:01,759
Speaker 1: mod Man.

997
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 4: Yeah.

998
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:04,879
Speaker 1: Then you know we were just waiting because they told

999
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 1: me I was gonna go anywhere from eighteen to twenty two.

1000
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So I'm like, damn. So

1001
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 1: when eighteen going, I don't get picked, bro, it.

1002
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 4: Crushed two go you donna get picked.

1003
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 1: With no I back eighteen it crushed me.

1004
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 3: I'm looking at my age and like, boy, you are

1005
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:20,719
Speaker 3: asked fin to get fired next week.

1006
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:23,840
Speaker 1: That's first thing that shout out Mike Higgins. But you

1007
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:25,799
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, I'm like, damn, that was going

1008
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:27,880
Speaker 1: on in the game. I went, I walked straight upstairs.

1009
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 4: Man, Man, I got the I.

1010
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 1: Got everybody outside, man, everybody outside, everybody well, everybody inside,

1011
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 1: but everybody just wait.

1012
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:35,359
Speaker 4: Man.

1013
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:38,759
Speaker 1: We were standing room only, and I went upstairs at

1014
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:40,759
Speaker 1: the eighteen. Man, you know he called me back.

1015
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 4: Yeah you might go nineteen, Yeah, you might go twenty one.

1016
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, I just hung up. I ain't asking

1017
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:48,840
Speaker 1: the phone no more. He called me back at like

1018
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:51,799
Speaker 1: twenty three. I think that might have been pulling in something.

1019
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:55,279
Speaker 1: Don't get me thinking too had but I pick up, like,

1020
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 1: what's up?

1021
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:55,879
Speaker 4: Man?

1022
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 3: What?

1023
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 1: Man? No, they don't call you right now. Just wait,

1024
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 1: just wait. Twenty three pick come boom, alright, then that

1025
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:04,640
Speaker 1: Boston up next, twenty four they got two picks. Manager.

1026
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 1: They didn't brought me in three times. They brought me

1027
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:09,320
Speaker 1: in three time, boss, I told.

1028
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 4: You, Broy.

1029
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 1: They tried to do me like that. I had like

1030
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 1: three workouts with them. Then they tried to do a

1031
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:16,400
Speaker 1: day before the draft type d You know I did,

1032
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 1: I did?

1033
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 4: I did? What the fuck else you need to see?

1034
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:23,720
Speaker 4: You just saw me two three.

1035
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 3: Times, had dinner with me and my sister and my daddy,

1036
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 3: like but not fucking cut cue. Did y'all run that

1037
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 3: thing where you gotta run beat test and then they

1038
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 3: tell you Steve Nash ran at twenty nine.

1039
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 1: Goddamn, look good. I'm not a point goud man. I

1040
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 1: ain't gonna lie, man, I said, damn, bro, why y'all

1041
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 1: got me running?

1042
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:42,920
Speaker 4: Am?

1043
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 1: I am? I a track stop. So it was funny though,

1044
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 1: because when they got the twenty four and manage you,

1045
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 1: they picked Delonte West twenty four and so it was like, damn,

1046
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 1: I just put him after mother fucking playoffs before I

1047
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:57,399
Speaker 1: got here, and he was averaging twenty five a game.

1048
00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:01,439
Speaker 1: He left the building with twelve. You see what I'm saying.

1049
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 1: So I'm like, all right, how the fuck this happened?

1050
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 1: So boom my my agent, you know that little three

1051
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:09,279
Speaker 1: four minute process before you go to the next man

1052
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:11,879
Speaker 1: calling me like a motherfucker I'm talking about He can't

1053
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 1: be calling me this much not to not to be

1054
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:16,799
Speaker 1: talking about something now, Boma pickle, he said, yoa, they

1055
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:18,279
Speaker 1: about to pick you or we're gonna stay on the phone.

1056
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna guarantee they from the picky. So I get

1057
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 1: to walking downstairs, walking downstairs, you know, walking a little

1058
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 1: bit slow, he said. He said, I boom shot downstairs.

1059
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:31,120
Speaker 1: On I hear coming up. Boom eight Tony Allen at

1060
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 1: the twenty five pig.

1061
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:32,759
Speaker 3: WHOA.

1062
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 4: I ran straight outside.

1063
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:35,360
Speaker 1: I ain't want nobody hugging me.

1064
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:35,840
Speaker 4: Graanda.

1065
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:38,839
Speaker 1: I don't about twisting my ankle or nothing. I went

1066
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:42,719
Speaker 1: and jumped straight. Oh my grandmama, alum enough jumped on

1067
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:45,799
Speaker 1: that motherfucker the whole I'm talking about, the whole roof

1068
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:47,919
Speaker 1: down the k Then she come out of the baby.

1069
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:49,960
Speaker 1: If you don't get off of my concert, Grandma's time

1070
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 1: you stop driving anyway. Meanwhile, I got my baby mama

1071
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:54,760
Speaker 1: coming out the wood working with the baby.

1072
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:56,440
Speaker 4: Come on that to you.

1073
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,360
Speaker 1: I'm like, what the hell I popped the bottle? Go

1074
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 1: out spread over everybody, man, the whole neighborhood. Come outside, man,

1075
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 1: twenty one fifty way, random, all the west side. Man,

1076
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie. Yeah, you propped about what talk

1077
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 1: about it?

1078
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:10,759
Speaker 3: Head?

1079
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:17,800
Speaker 4: You go little nectar, little nectar, like you know, like

1080
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:21,279
Speaker 4: get that out the way, man, But I ain't gonna lee.

1081
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 3: Man.

1082
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:24,520
Speaker 1: That was that was a surreal moment. It was like, Damn,

1083
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:26,720
Speaker 1: I actually did it. Man. I'm talking about from getting

1084
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 1: faeded to you know, trying to thug it to hustling

1085
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:33,279
Speaker 1: to to actually you get kicked out of school when

1086
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 1: you get drafted.

1087
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 2: Kind of it's like a flashback of everything everything, Like

1088
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 2: I'm talking about that point I'm talking about.

1089
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:45,240
Speaker 1: It's it's people right now today, I was doing wrong.

1090
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:50,600
Speaker 1: I was going left. They couldn't understand how I went right.

1091
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:54,320
Speaker 1: They like, how the hell he did that? Cord was around.

1092
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:56,879
Speaker 1: I'm doing so much wow ship like I'm talking about

1093
00:50:57,239 --> 00:50:58,840
Speaker 1: she I don't even want to pretty much say but

1094
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 1: I said if you know, you know, but man, I'm

1095
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 1: talking about man, ain't no mystery in my history. Bro,

1096
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:05,479
Speaker 1: I'm mister cole On for real.

1097
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 4: You hear me.

1098
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:08,239
Speaker 1: When you get to Boston and.

1099
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:14,440
Speaker 2: You see uh Paul Prarice, you see walked Dog, you

1100
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:17,880
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, Like you see these banners up,

1101
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 2: you know, like Boston is one of them historic franchises

1102
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 2: even though they weren't winning like they was winning. I

1103
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:28,440
Speaker 2: was just I say, get correct back back in the day.

1104
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:31,960
Speaker 2: But they're still a historic franchise. How was it to

1105
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:35,839
Speaker 2: get to Boston and you know, to finally see your

1106
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:39,440
Speaker 2: last name on the back of a jersey and you

1107
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 2: know you gotta still prove yourself because I mean.

1108
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:45,359
Speaker 1: If if you can look at the Geddy images right now, man,

1109
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 1: you can see me the Latte, Al Jefferson, Jess Recipe, Jessee. Man,

1110
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:54,040
Speaker 1: we got our jersey up smiling, so goddamn hard magic.

1111
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 3: This just for the fuck you up, because Lizzen, when

1112
00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:58,520
Speaker 3: I went to the press confers, I had a Larry

1113
00:51:58,600 --> 00:51:59,480
Speaker 3: Bird jersey y'ard.

1114
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:02,400
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, nown you know, I see Larry gonna on

1115
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:04,279
Speaker 1: to the fact. Yeah, I got the Larry y'all. You

1116
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:08,919
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Oh, I'm holding my jersey. Man,

1117
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 1: we played the Pagers. I see Larry. Look at Larry

1118
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 1: trying to see all that larrying. Come say whatever on

1119
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 1: warming up?

1120
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:14,839
Speaker 4: Man?

1121
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:16,200
Speaker 1: That man walked dead past me.

1122
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 3: I don't care about the talking about championship battles and winning.

1123
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 3: Only man, you ain't win number one. You tell it

1124
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 3: was like one of those just so real moments, like

1125
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:34,719
Speaker 3: all right, cool, like all this jersey really means.

1126
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 1: Winning? Or go home? Bro Like they don't, they don't.

1127
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:41,879
Speaker 1: They don't expect nothing but that. And that's a coach

1128
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:45,880
Speaker 1: of really understanding how you need to be preparing to

1129
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:46,320
Speaker 1: get read of.

1130
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:48,360
Speaker 2: That's one thing about the drafts. You know, you do

1131
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:52,239
Speaker 2: all this ship to get to the NBA draft. Once

1132
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:53,960
Speaker 2: you get to the NBA Draft and you get on

1133
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 2: the team, you got to start all the way.

1134
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:57,920
Speaker 1: The funk over, like.

1135
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:02,400
Speaker 2: You in college, what you did in high school, how

1136
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:05,880
Speaker 2: many All Americans or however many trophies you got, that

1137
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 2: don't mean shit on this level. You gotta start all

1138
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:12,600
Speaker 2: the way the fuck over to prove yourself to the

1139
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 2: best of the best.

1140
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:15,800
Speaker 1: And that's a fact. And that's a fact. And I

1141
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 1: ain't gonna lie bro. I had bad habits, Bro coming

1142
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 1: in the league. Bro, I ain't gonna I was still

1143
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:23,480
Speaker 1: stuck on me. I go, I'll go eat me a

1144
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:26,759
Speaker 1: motherfucker six peep from pape right far I go to

1145
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:27,239
Speaker 1: the game.

1146
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:29,680
Speaker 2: Bro, I ain't no nothing bout routine. I ain't no

1147
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:31,719
Speaker 2: nothing about none of that. And so being a professional,

1148
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 2: none of that, Bro, I ain't gonna lae.

1149
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:34,880
Speaker 1: And part of that, mar I ain't gonna liae was

1150
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:38,720
Speaker 1: probably why I told my ACL I had to actually,

1151
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 1: you know, change my game, bro, Like I really thought

1152
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:45,320
Speaker 1: I was a score. I really thought, like, like, I know,

1153
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 1: my fucker allowed to see my jump shot like that,

1154
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:49,759
Speaker 1: But my my ship was like this at first. You

1155
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:54,800
Speaker 1: know what, I ask you about that because I remember

1156
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 1: Tony Allen and the bucket gather exactly. You know what

1157
00:53:57,760 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 1: I'm saying.

1158
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:02,320
Speaker 2: You had defense, like you compete on both ends, but

1159
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:05,320
Speaker 2: it didn't stand out as much to me because I

1160
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:07,520
Speaker 2: remember you are go and get a bucket and you

1161
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:08,399
Speaker 2: a dunk that thing.

1162
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:09,279
Speaker 1: I mean, that's how you got it.

1163
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:14,160
Speaker 3: That's that Chicago. Remember bring back, Let bring back and

1164
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 3: bring back in Chicago. Two things.

1165
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:20,839
Speaker 1: When I'm cooking what we're gonna do, We're gonna clear

1166
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:30,239
Speaker 1: out cool right now, picture yourself on the other end. Man,

1167
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:31,880
Speaker 1: y'all got me fucked up.

1168
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:35,320
Speaker 3: And see that's the difference that I'm trying to tell you,

1169
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:39,400
Speaker 3: the fucking difference right there when you came here to Chicago,

1170
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:41,520
Speaker 3: I t is that's the difference between.

1171
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:42,120
Speaker 4: Rookie and all that.

1172
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 3: Because if rutger, they gonna go back and forth with

1173
00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:47,920
Speaker 3: a motherfucker throwing it between your the real dogs in

1174
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:49,520
Speaker 3: Chicago gonna work your.

1175
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:53,680
Speaker 4: Ass and we're gonna come back down here and what fuck.

1176
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:57,839
Speaker 1: Somewhere, go somewhere. I'm not the lick. I'm not the lick.

1177
00:54:58,600 --> 00:54:59,239
Speaker 1: I'm not the lick.

1178
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:02,279
Speaker 4: Period. So I learned that from ad T. I learned

1179
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 4: that being in Chicago. I learned locking up as you told,

1180
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:07,960
Speaker 4: embarrassed me. Bro It hurt me if you scorn me

1181
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:12,160
Speaker 4: my hood and look at me like I'm fried. So

1182
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:16,600
Speaker 4: that part of once I got critiquing. You know, I

1183
00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:18,560
Speaker 4: get the doc boom. All right, cool, this is my

1184
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:21,200
Speaker 4: this is my bread and butter. But more so importantly,

1185
00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:24,279
Speaker 4: I told my A c L. So it was like,

1186
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:27,719
Speaker 4: all right, cool, how do I adapt? And one thing

1187
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 4: for show?

1188
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:29,799
Speaker 1: Truth for certain. You know what I'm saying, I'm gonna

1189
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:32,040
Speaker 1: get you know, be true is his blows.

1190
00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:32,239
Speaker 4: Now.

1191
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 1: Once I told my A c L.

1192
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:38,359
Speaker 3: He like, ship, ship, don't stop. You still gotta play

1193
00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:40,799
Speaker 3: me one on one. We still gotta do the same

1194
00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:42,520
Speaker 3: ship we gotta do. You can guard me and you

1195
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 3: guard anybody in the in the league.

1196
00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 1: And so I took that as like motivation because look, homie,

1197
00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:51,880
Speaker 1: look when I told my bro they traded Al Jefferson,

1198
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:54,879
Speaker 1: they traded just reed, they traded Delonte. Well, they traded.

1199
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:57,759
Speaker 1: While is the reaction, bro? Why they keep me.

1200
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:05,440
Speaker 2: A cl y'all want to know contra because people might

1201
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 2: not remember how you to your it was after the play.

1202
00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:10,239
Speaker 4: And I ain't gonna lie.

1203
00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:12,279
Speaker 1: I hate I hate guys even doing that now, man,

1204
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:14,680
Speaker 1: when when a whistle blow man just stopped, Bro, I

1205
00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:17,680
Speaker 1: ain't gonna lie. I remember it like yesterday, man, and

1206
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:20,759
Speaker 1: through this span of me playing, you know, we had

1207
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:25,320
Speaker 1: you know already established. Okay, Paul Pierce, he got his extension,

1208
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:26,880
Speaker 1: but hene went to the media.

1209
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:27,560
Speaker 4: I need help.

1210
00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:31,000
Speaker 1: And so at this point the organization was saying, all right,

1211
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:33,320
Speaker 1: what what we're gonna do with this bowler gum? But

1212
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:36,279
Speaker 1: we got Rajon Rondough, we got Gerald Green, we got

1213
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:40,200
Speaker 1: Al Jefferson, we got Justin Reed, we got Tony Allen,

1214
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:43,360
Speaker 1: got Ryan Gomees. What we're gonna do with it? What

1215
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:52,000
Speaker 1: we're gonna do? Yeah, what's my guy man McCarty, Yeah yeah,

1216
00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:56,000
Speaker 1: o g yeah yeah. But more so importantly, it was like,

1217
00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:58,839
Speaker 1: all right, now y'all get y'all get to play. Now

1218
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:01,239
Speaker 1: we're finna put y'all in this position to see who

1219
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:03,279
Speaker 1: were gonna keep, who we could trade who was at

1220
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:06,400
Speaker 1: that And that was me started understanding the business. And

1221
00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:09,000
Speaker 1: Paul pi Is one day, Bro, as soon as he

1222
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:11,000
Speaker 1: got his distance, he was like, yo, if from shut

1223
00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:16,080
Speaker 1: it down on ta, you got the juice. I always

1224
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:19,840
Speaker 1: get back to the Juice movie though. He's like, you

1225
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 1: got the juice? So I say, bro, what it's like?

1226
00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:23,080
Speaker 4: What you mean?

1227
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:25,360
Speaker 1: He's like, I'm shutting it down, bro, you about to

1228
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:28,320
Speaker 1: be starting swing like a ten gamespan killer. I was

1229
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 1: averaging like nineteen. Yeah, he was getting busy in then,

1230
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:35,880
Speaker 1: like a ten gamespan getting business.

1231
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:39,680
Speaker 3: So when I got to Stephen Jack shout out Steve Jacks,

1232
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:42,920
Speaker 3: I'm thinking, like, Bro, I'm busting Jackass.

1233
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:49,040
Speaker 1: I got nineteen with six seven now about eight minutes

1234
00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:51,720
Speaker 1: left in the third, I might get forty to night

1235
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:54,520
Speaker 1: to go to the last shoot to get twenty one.

1236
00:57:55,080 --> 00:58:00,560
Speaker 1: That's how I'm thinking, Bro. You building up within that file.

1237
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:02,360
Speaker 1: When he found me was on the penalty. It was

1238
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:05,640
Speaker 1: over the pency boom, I blow past. I'm feeling groovy. Yeah,

1239
00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:07,800
Speaker 1: I know the hood watching me. Let me go upstairs

1240
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:11,080
Speaker 1: and this around the town that jont this around the town.

1241
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:12,240
Speaker 1: Bron made this look six.

1242
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:18,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, you come back in the day, you remember, Jordan,

1243
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:21,160
Speaker 3: You know you would come up just dunk it or

1244
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:26,440
Speaker 3: are you doing a coffee? Got up there when Bron

1245
00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:32,520
Speaker 3: brought that thing out. I'm like, I'm feeling like I'm

1246
00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:35,520
Speaker 3: feeling like Bron. Listen, Bro, I'll tell you I take

1247
00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:37,320
Speaker 3: off Bro. No, I'm upstairs.

1248
00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:43,880
Speaker 1: Baha, man, soon I come down, manfucker Pops so Loud

1249
00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:50,360
Speaker 1: I said, Oh Joe, I mean our hands like yo son,

1250
00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:54,920
Speaker 1: that's our your son, yo son. Like what are you doing.

1251
00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:59,760
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, jack over that motherfucker, like what are

1252
00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:04,080
Speaker 1: you doing? They both tell me what I'm doing, like, oh, bro,

1253
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:06,000
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie. When they picked me after, I

1254
00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:08,360
Speaker 1: was hurgly, I'm liken, this ain't nothing, Bro. I tried

1255
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:10,240
Speaker 1: to I tried to walk through the back like still

1256
00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:13,400
Speaker 1: walking like no, ain't nothing, ain't nothing. I fell out

1257
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:16,600
Speaker 1: right in the back and it was right then and there.

1258
00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:20,920
Speaker 1: I was like, damn, bro, I might be out the league. Bro,

1259
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:25,360
Speaker 1: I might be out the league, Bro. And it blew me.

1260
00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:28,080
Speaker 1: It blew on lie. That's that's one of my biggest

1261
00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:29,920
Speaker 1: regrets in the league. I ain't on your lab bro.

1262
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:34,479
Speaker 2: How you yeah, because then the athleticism, how you jump,

1263
00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:39,040
Speaker 2: move fast, like to have to come out how you like?

1264
00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:42,000
Speaker 1: Well, people don't understand. So when I be seeing guys

1265
00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:42,840
Speaker 1: going through these.

1266
00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:46,920
Speaker 2: Injuriespecially these knee injuries or they turn some you got

1267
00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:50,440
Speaker 2: to persevere, You got to get through your depression. It's

1268
00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:53,440
Speaker 2: a lot of stuff come with that because you're definitely

1269
00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:56,600
Speaker 2: not gonna come back as you was the first time.

1270
00:59:57,000 --> 00:59:58,640
Speaker 3: I ain't never seen that happen. Only the only person

1271
00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:00,720
Speaker 3: I seen come back how they it was coke.

1272
01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:03,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Katie. But other than that, I ain't seen

1273
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:04,720
Speaker 1: I ain't seen nobody else.

1274
01:00:05,240 --> 01:00:09,880
Speaker 2: But how did you just kind of mentally get through that?

1275
01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:12,520
Speaker 2: Because it's a long road, and if you ain't never

1276
01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:15,760
Speaker 2: been through a process of being hurt before, knowing that

1277
01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:19,800
Speaker 2: you gotta stack your days. You know, every day count

1278
01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:22,800
Speaker 2: You got to slowly stack your day. It's gonna be months.

1279
01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:25,560
Speaker 1: It's probably be three months before you feel any type

1280
01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:29,400
Speaker 1: of strength. It was challenging. It was challenging I confront

1281
01:00:29,600 --> 01:00:31,880
Speaker 1: you know, we was just interviewing d Road not too

1282
01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:35,240
Speaker 1: long ago. And the part about like the process is

1283
01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:38,120
Speaker 1: really trying to get your need to go in full

1284
01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:41,280
Speaker 1: circle of just riding a bike in the motion. But

1285
01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:43,680
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying them actually been in your knee,

1286
01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:46,560
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying it some weak ass exercise

1287
01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:49,480
Speaker 1: to what it like, Damn, this ship would have never happened.

1288
01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:51,240
Speaker 1: I'd be looking at the train of personal training like

1289
01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:52,760
Speaker 1: what the fuck you got me doing what you're doing?

1290
01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:55,479
Speaker 1: And it was a lot of days, man, I gotta

1291
01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:59,680
Speaker 1: I gotta give big shouts out to air Assert you know, Todd,

1292
01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:04,600
Speaker 1: Brian Due, you know Walter, Uh, these all guys that

1293
01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:06,920
Speaker 1: you know the Strengths and conditioning guy. You know the

1294
01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:10,000
Speaker 1: trainers who helped me, you know, rehabilitate myself and get

1295
01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:12,880
Speaker 1: back to the point whereas you know, I might not

1296
01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:14,680
Speaker 1: be the dude that I was, I might be not

1297
01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:17,720
Speaker 1: as athletic as I was, but I could work back

1298
01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:20,880
Speaker 1: to it, and they got me close as I could

1299
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:24,080
Speaker 1: get back to it, because man, it was. It was

1300
01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:26,160
Speaker 1: times where you know, I ain't gonna liugh just looking

1301
01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:27,680
Speaker 1: at it like yo, I could be out the league

1302
01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:28,960
Speaker 1: like I was looking at it like you know, it

1303
01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:31,120
Speaker 1: was a depression I can't confront like it. It was

1304
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:34,000
Speaker 1: contract gift for for me too. You know, guys went

1305
01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:36,000
Speaker 1: on and got extensions like Al Jefferson he went on,

1306
01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:38,320
Speaker 1: got an extension, big boy extension too. Yeah you know

1307
01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:41,480
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Uh, you know I was looking at

1308
01:01:41,520 --> 01:01:44,320
Speaker 1: it like damn. You know that was probably my extense.

1309
01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:46,280
Speaker 1: I remember days, me and me and Al Jeffson get

1310
01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:47,920
Speaker 1: on the back of the bus. Within those ten games,

1311
01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:49,720
Speaker 1: I was telling you about, like, hey, what you finished

1312
01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:52,479
Speaker 1: with today, Chia. Hey I'm nineteen and nine and five.

1313
01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:55,760
Speaker 1: Feel I'm like, well, yeah, I'm twenty five and fifteen. Yea, yeah,

1314
01:01:55,760 --> 01:01:58,520
Speaker 1: I'm looking like a seventy million dollar man. Hey yeah,

1315
01:01:58,520 --> 01:02:01,880
Speaker 1: I'm looking like a fifty million dollar man. Meanwhile, we

1316
01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:06,680
Speaker 1: dine lost, but we not understanding, like, but we that

1317
01:02:06,920 --> 01:02:09,000
Speaker 1: valuable to other teams, you know what I'm saying. So

1318
01:02:09,160 --> 01:02:11,840
Speaker 1: we knew that much. And it was like, damn I

1319
01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:15,440
Speaker 1: missed that on that and you know, I get shouts

1320
01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:20,720
Speaker 1: after Danny ings Man, you know, yeah, every every opportunity

1321
01:02:20,800 --> 01:02:25,280
Speaker 1: to trade me to, you know, to not extend me to,

1322
01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:27,320
Speaker 1: you know, cause they did the surgery on my knee

1323
01:02:27,400 --> 01:02:29,520
Speaker 1: and I still today got a screw on my knee

1324
01:02:29,680 --> 01:02:36,320
Speaker 1: from right now. What was you when when they added

1325
01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:39,000
Speaker 1: kJ and Ray to the mix? Oh, they added kJ

1326
01:02:39,120 --> 01:02:40,600
Speaker 1: and Ray to the mix? I ain't gonna in front

1327
01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:42,640
Speaker 1: like you know, I had already knew Kzy. All my

1328
01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:45,560
Speaker 1: guys had already you know, they had already been telling

1329
01:02:45,560 --> 01:02:47,680
Speaker 1: me about Caz. You know, they had already already been

1330
01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:50,760
Speaker 1: telling me what he was on, what he was doing,

1331
01:02:51,080 --> 01:02:53,480
Speaker 1: what like he did go. You know what I'm saying.

1332
01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:55,600
Speaker 1: I was already familiar with who he was, you know

1333
01:02:55,640 --> 01:02:58,000
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, So just to have him get there,

1334
01:02:58,120 --> 01:03:00,680
Speaker 1: and you know, it was like, damn, this shit coming

1335
01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:03,600
Speaker 1: off full circle like, okay, cool, and just when he

1336
01:03:03,720 --> 01:03:07,760
Speaker 1: got there, I understood his professionalism like I didn't understand,

1337
01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:10,200
Speaker 1: like how you prepare for a game, Like he do

1338
01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:13,840
Speaker 1: so much work in practice in the days before the

1339
01:03:13,920 --> 01:03:15,480
Speaker 1: game that when he get to the game, he just

1340
01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:17,120
Speaker 1: focused on the game. He don't even go out there

1341
01:03:17,120 --> 01:03:19,080
Speaker 1: and shoot, like you know how people go out there

1342
01:03:19,080 --> 01:03:21,320
Speaker 1: and shoot before the game. Bro, don't even go out

1343
01:03:21,320 --> 01:03:24,960
Speaker 1: there and shoot. He mentally gather himself up and get ready,

1344
01:03:25,200 --> 01:03:27,400
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. That's one of the things

1345
01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:29,400
Speaker 1: that I looked at. I was like, okay, okay, you

1346
01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:31,560
Speaker 1: gotta have your mentor together before you play. I picked

1347
01:03:31,600 --> 01:03:33,800
Speaker 1: that up as before I went to Memphis and then

1348
01:03:33,880 --> 01:03:36,440
Speaker 1: getting Ray. I used to see Ray come in, you know.

1349
01:03:36,960 --> 01:03:40,600
Speaker 3: Three o'clock, like he dit three four hours before the game,

1350
01:03:40,720 --> 01:03:43,400
Speaker 3: like before everybody get there. I'm like, damn, bro, you

1351
01:03:43,520 --> 01:03:46,440
Speaker 3: stay farther away from the rener than I do. And

1352
01:03:46,560 --> 01:03:50,520
Speaker 3: he there faithfully. And it was about routine. I learned

1353
01:03:50,560 --> 01:03:52,280
Speaker 3: from them guys, and them guys do the same thing

1354
01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:55,280
Speaker 3: every day, every day, every game, every game, repetition, and

1355
01:03:55,440 --> 01:04:00,400
Speaker 3: it showed and they performance and professionalism and probably was

1356
01:04:00,440 --> 01:04:02,360
Speaker 3: the best thing that happened to me, man, how those

1357
01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:05,160
Speaker 3: guys come Just see how you you know, properly prepare

1358
01:04:05,240 --> 01:04:08,160
Speaker 3: for games. And I wouldn't take it for granted for

1359
01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:08,840
Speaker 3: none in the world.

1360
01:04:09,040 --> 01:04:13,240
Speaker 2: How did the city change the city you've seen when

1361
01:04:13,280 --> 01:04:15,040
Speaker 2: you got there, y'all was losing.

1362
01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:19,840
Speaker 1: I haven't won and forever Like yeah, y'all was making

1363
01:04:19,840 --> 01:04:22,600
Speaker 1: the playoffs in a while, Man, you should see coming

1364
01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:25,680
Speaker 1: out Listen when you put it that specific, we lost

1365
01:04:25,720 --> 01:04:27,480
Speaker 1: what nineteen I want to say, eighteen in a row

1366
01:04:28,840 --> 01:04:31,640
Speaker 1: coming out the coming out the park and lock them

1367
01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:38,960
Speaker 1: fans be like, hey Tony, Tony, you better off in

1368
01:04:39,080 --> 01:04:49,680
Speaker 1: another city. The accents go them fans was brutal. So

1369
01:04:49,800 --> 01:04:54,760
Speaker 1: it's like, damn ship. Then go from boom getting KG

1370
01:04:55,000 --> 01:05:01,360
Speaker 1: you know, I love you, from going out to restaurants,

1371
01:05:01,680 --> 01:05:04,520
Speaker 1: giving your dinner comp to you see what I'm saying,

1372
01:05:04,760 --> 01:05:05,840
Speaker 1: How was it being.

1373
01:05:06,680 --> 01:05:09,560
Speaker 3: Amongst all that winning though, Like when like the Red

1374
01:05:09,720 --> 01:05:12,440
Speaker 3: Sox the Patriots, y'all was like.

1375
01:05:13,160 --> 01:05:16,080
Speaker 1: Like, how like how was that?

1376
01:05:16,240 --> 01:05:18,440
Speaker 3: Because like that's like not a lot of people, Like

1377
01:05:18,520 --> 01:05:20,600
Speaker 3: it's a lot of people that want championship, whether they

1378
01:05:20,680 --> 01:05:22,920
Speaker 3: be baseball, football, or bat It's not a lot of

1379
01:05:22,960 --> 01:05:26,040
Speaker 3: people to get their experience living in the city that

1380
01:05:26,640 --> 01:05:29,800
Speaker 3: achieve what y'all did, you know by the sports team

1381
01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:31,800
Speaker 3: all in one year, Like how the hell was that?

1382
01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:33,960
Speaker 3: Like y'all had to be some of the most sport

1383
01:05:34,120 --> 01:05:37,480
Speaker 3: fans in the world, and like everybody.

1384
01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:40,160
Speaker 4: Like what champion, it's a parade every fucking other.

1385
01:05:41,640 --> 01:05:45,120
Speaker 1: You'd be surprised of some of the you know things

1386
01:05:45,240 --> 01:05:48,000
Speaker 1: that people just you know, they bow down and self

1387
01:05:48,040 --> 01:05:51,120
Speaker 1: show praise too. But uh, I remember vividly, like just

1388
01:05:51,240 --> 01:05:53,560
Speaker 1: going to the Red Sox series and you know, watching

1389
01:05:53,640 --> 01:05:56,040
Speaker 1: those guys you know, win it, you know what I'm saying,

1390
01:05:56,080 --> 01:05:59,800
Speaker 1: and seeing those they season in and you know, watching

1391
01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:03,000
Speaker 1: Brady and you know what I'm saying. It's just it

1392
01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:05,440
Speaker 1: was like one of those situations where all right, we're

1393
01:06:05,520 --> 01:06:08,320
Speaker 1: next in line, and I saw it, and I could

1394
01:06:08,360 --> 01:06:11,320
Speaker 1: tell from our you know, our big three that they

1395
01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:14,880
Speaker 1: kept us a focus to where like, hey, we gotta

1396
01:06:14,920 --> 01:06:17,040
Speaker 1: get this done. I mean, we ain't come together for none,

1397
01:06:17,080 --> 01:06:18,680
Speaker 1: you gotta figure at that time it was the Big

1398
01:06:18,760 --> 01:06:19,280
Speaker 1: Three that was.

1399
01:06:19,480 --> 01:06:21,400
Speaker 3: I think that was the time where they started calling

1400
01:06:21,480 --> 01:06:23,160
Speaker 3: it the Big Three, the Biggest ship.

1401
01:06:24,280 --> 01:06:27,440
Speaker 2: I always hear about the training camp y'all had, how

1402
01:06:27,600 --> 01:06:31,160
Speaker 2: lit and hype y'all training camp was that once all

1403
01:06:31,240 --> 01:06:32,520
Speaker 2: y'all got together and.

1404
01:06:32,760 --> 01:06:36,919
Speaker 1: Tell us about the trip overseas that y'all took. Yeah,

1405
01:06:36,960 --> 01:06:39,120
Speaker 1: and so that's what the training camp started. Yeah, that's when.

1406
01:06:39,240 --> 01:06:41,520
Speaker 4: That's when baby pulled up on the bike with the

1407
01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:43,280
Speaker 4: job was lady ship.

1408
01:06:46,280 --> 01:06:46,400
Speaker 3: Bro.

1409
01:06:46,560 --> 01:06:47,320
Speaker 4: He was lying.

1410
01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:50,880
Speaker 3: Bro, that's the story. All I o't get y'all the story.

1411
01:06:50,920 --> 01:06:53,160
Speaker 3: And that's why that's my guy. I ain't gonna what

1412
01:06:53,240 --> 01:06:56,680
Speaker 3: we do said Listen, listen, listen tell me that. All

1413
01:06:56,680 --> 01:06:59,880
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say is this, bro, how did you ride

1414
01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:03,000
Speaker 3: a bike from the hotel and the hotel and the

1415
01:07:03,080 --> 01:07:07,439
Speaker 3: restaurant is fifteen miles apart? But when you get there

1416
01:07:08,440 --> 01:07:10,720
Speaker 3: your shirt still creased, there's no sweat on them.

1417
01:07:12,400 --> 01:07:14,160
Speaker 4: And where did you get this little boy from in

1418
01:07:14,240 --> 01:07:14,640
Speaker 4: the bike?

1419
01:07:16,960 --> 01:07:18,240
Speaker 1: So you had a little boy and a bike.

1420
01:07:18,520 --> 01:07:20,040
Speaker 3: He had a little boy and a bike with a

1421
01:07:20,120 --> 01:07:25,520
Speaker 3: man managin But look you the owners, the owner, everybody,

1422
01:07:25,600 --> 01:07:26,720
Speaker 3: the whole organization.

1423
01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:27,040
Speaker 4: There.

1424
01:07:27,560 --> 01:07:30,440
Speaker 3: You got a big dinner. Bro, it's a big dinner man,

1425
01:07:30,520 --> 01:07:32,800
Speaker 3: baby coming out where you hit the boy? Now, manage

1426
01:07:32,800 --> 01:07:36,440
Speaker 3: your baby from New Orleans. He gonna be you heard me.

1427
01:07:37,800 --> 01:07:40,280
Speaker 3: You know he wanted them type of cat. So when

1428
01:07:40,320 --> 01:07:40,880
Speaker 3: he got in there.

1429
01:07:40,920 --> 01:07:44,640
Speaker 1: He was like, yo, I was like, I was, I

1430
01:07:44,800 --> 01:07:45,800
Speaker 1: was here, I was riding.

1431
01:07:45,840 --> 01:07:47,560
Speaker 4: I was looking for you the heights. I couldn't see

1432
01:07:47,600 --> 01:07:51,840
Speaker 4: the property, said, boy, where you dinna learned some English from?

1433
01:07:53,240 --> 01:07:54,120
Speaker 1: I couldn't believe it.

1434
01:07:55,200 --> 01:07:58,240
Speaker 3: And so they told him come on in, man, you

1435
01:07:58,360 --> 01:08:00,560
Speaker 3: all right, man, just take the fan and this, that

1436
01:08:00,600 --> 01:08:02,720
Speaker 3: and the other. He's like, he's like, I had to

1437
01:08:02,800 --> 01:08:07,160
Speaker 3: give the guy a hundred bucks and you know, get

1438
01:08:07,200 --> 01:08:10,480
Speaker 3: your cap ass. But yeah, that happened, man shout out

1439
01:08:10,480 --> 01:08:12,120
Speaker 3: the big baby. Yeah, that definitely happened.

1440
01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:13,440
Speaker 1: Tell us about that season.

1441
01:08:14,040 --> 01:08:17,400
Speaker 2: You know you and then you went to Julian, dropped

1442
01:08:17,439 --> 01:08:19,639
Speaker 2: out of school, you went to Craying, you went to Juko,

1443
01:08:20,680 --> 01:08:21,960
Speaker 2: you went to Oklahoma State.

1444
01:08:22,240 --> 01:08:22,479
Speaker 1: Fact.

1445
01:08:22,560 --> 01:08:25,600
Speaker 2: But now you get the opportunity to go through a

1446
01:08:25,680 --> 01:08:28,120
Speaker 2: whole season and play a role.

1447
01:08:28,880 --> 01:08:31,120
Speaker 1: You know, they needs you to get a bucket.

1448
01:08:31,160 --> 01:08:34,080
Speaker 2: They needed you to play a role role which everybody

1449
01:08:34,160 --> 01:08:37,040
Speaker 2: played a role like ticket, even the Big Three. Everybody

1450
01:08:37,120 --> 01:08:40,920
Speaker 2: played a role. But you played that role and you

1451
01:08:41,080 --> 01:08:43,560
Speaker 2: go all the way and you win the championship.

1452
01:08:43,880 --> 01:08:44,080
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1453
01:08:44,360 --> 01:08:46,439
Speaker 3: Man, you gotta figure though, you gotta figure Like my

1454
01:08:46,560 --> 01:08:48,080
Speaker 3: first year, I'm gonna put it out there.

1455
01:08:48,120 --> 01:08:50,320
Speaker 1: Look, my first year there they had Ricky Davis and

1456
01:08:50,360 --> 01:08:53,200
Speaker 1: Paul Pitt. These boys want the ball. You played with

1457
01:08:53,280 --> 01:08:58,840
Speaker 1: Riggy Davis. But Ricky Davis, he don't get the ball.

1458
01:08:59,040 --> 01:09:01,120
Speaker 1: You know what he gonna him get the about ay

1459
01:09:01,160 --> 01:09:05,840
Speaker 1: bro passed that. So Paul pi is feeling like, hey, man,

1460
01:09:07,040 --> 01:09:09,880
Speaker 1: do you want to be here? You feel then?

1461
01:09:09,920 --> 01:09:13,120
Speaker 4: So he So I was the fault at the fault

1462
01:09:13,240 --> 01:09:14,280
Speaker 4: put in the start.

1463
01:09:14,120 --> 01:09:18,120
Speaker 1: Lineup my rookie year. Atter about about twenty some of

1464
01:09:18,120 --> 01:09:21,639
Speaker 1: our games, I'm in the start lineup. That was different

1465
01:09:21,680 --> 01:09:27,320
Speaker 1: to me because Doc don't want me shooting no shots. Well,

1466
01:09:27,360 --> 01:09:29,960
Speaker 1: go get you a putback, go get you a still,

1467
01:09:31,200 --> 01:09:33,720
Speaker 1: get you some hustle points. But one thing, so you

1468
01:09:33,920 --> 01:09:37,560
Speaker 1: better not get in your Tracy McGrady bag. Do not

1469
01:09:37,680 --> 01:09:39,720
Speaker 1: get in your average bag. And that was cool with

1470
01:09:39,840 --> 01:09:42,439
Speaker 1: me because I was like, all right, man, I'm enjoying

1471
01:09:42,439 --> 01:09:44,920
Speaker 1: the league. I'm learning the league, and for the most

1472
01:09:45,000 --> 01:09:48,559
Speaker 1: part my rookie year, you know, understanding the playoffs. Got

1473
01:09:48,600 --> 01:09:51,000
Speaker 1: to the playoff, I played against Reggie Miller. You know

1474
01:09:51,040 --> 01:09:55,280
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, shout Regi Miller. I got a chance

1475
01:09:55,360 --> 01:09:59,840
Speaker 1: to see what a real legend is about. You know

1476
01:10:00,040 --> 01:10:02,080
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I remember you know, getting a tip

1477
01:10:02,160 --> 01:10:06,120
Speaker 1: dunk boom. I'm feeling so good stuffing the ball and

1478
01:10:06,360 --> 01:10:08,759
Speaker 1: Reggi Miller's stomach and letting him know, like, yeah, motherfucker,

1479
01:10:08,760 --> 01:10:10,240
Speaker 1: I'm Tony shot down in the.

1480
01:10:10,680 --> 01:10:10,880
Speaker 4: You know what?

1481
01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:15,080
Speaker 3: Say hey man? He came back down the court and said, man, yeah,

1482
01:10:15,120 --> 01:10:20,200
Speaker 3: you just woke me up. Next game thirty something. You

1483
01:10:20,280 --> 01:10:20,840
Speaker 3: feel what I'm saying.

1484
01:10:21,040 --> 01:10:22,400
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this was you like me?

1485
01:10:22,479 --> 01:10:24,519
Speaker 3: Because I don't know if this was the Chicago thing,

1486
01:10:24,720 --> 01:10:27,240
Speaker 3: but I swear it was not like when I first

1487
01:10:27,280 --> 01:10:29,639
Speaker 3: got to it. I didn't really care about too many people,

1488
01:10:29,800 --> 01:10:33,200
Speaker 3: but I wont what fuck Reggie Miller up? Because I

1489
01:10:33,400 --> 01:10:35,719
Speaker 3: just hated Reggie Miller against the bulls.

1490
01:10:35,880 --> 01:10:36,600
Speaker 4: I hated it was.

1491
01:10:37,080 --> 01:10:40,959
Speaker 3: It was that promising guy like ID no no grudges.

1492
01:10:41,360 --> 01:10:44,479
Speaker 3: When I got I was like, what you know about

1493
01:10:44,520 --> 01:10:45,640
Speaker 3: the fuck Regimentler?

1494
01:10:45,920 --> 01:10:47,160
Speaker 1: What what talk about?

1495
01:10:47,400 --> 01:10:47,560
Speaker 4: You know?

1496
01:10:47,640 --> 01:10:51,439
Speaker 3: I'm strong, I'm about the fuck he puts Jordan to

1497
01:10:51,439 --> 01:10:55,280
Speaker 3: get off, Come on my life. I was at US

1498
01:10:55,760 --> 01:10:57,560
Speaker 3: try out boy for USA.

1499
01:10:59,680 --> 01:11:00,880
Speaker 4: Bof A.

1500
01:11:01,520 --> 01:11:04,720
Speaker 3: I was so goddamn man, I was this, I promise you.

1501
01:11:04,920 --> 01:11:07,439
Speaker 3: And now I got to the NBA, I was like,

1502
01:11:07,600 --> 01:11:10,439
Speaker 3: I'm a fuck Reggie Miller, like that was my that

1503
01:11:10,520 --> 01:11:16,200
Speaker 3: was my mentality too. So Chicago, it was my thing

1504
01:11:16,280 --> 01:11:20,240
Speaker 3: to where like all right, we went into game one,

1505
01:11:20,360 --> 01:11:22,800
Speaker 3: we win it. But that's when I learned about a

1506
01:11:22,960 --> 01:11:28,360
Speaker 3: seven games. Hey be careful because oh Riggy Dames and

1507
01:11:28,400 --> 01:11:31,799
Speaker 3: the crowd, we beat them by like a Duggy Dames, get.

1508
01:11:31,640 --> 01:11:35,320
Speaker 1: The broom, Get the broom. Man.

1509
01:11:35,360 --> 01:11:39,000
Speaker 3: I was starting first game, second game, third game, fourth game,

1510
01:11:39,080 --> 01:11:39,720
Speaker 3: fifth game out.

1511
01:11:40,000 --> 01:11:41,439
Speaker 1: I was on the bench. Bro, I ain't play no

1512
01:11:41,560 --> 01:11:44,640
Speaker 1: more man so and then again like moving forward to

1513
01:11:44,840 --> 01:11:47,639
Speaker 1: just like I said that those draft season and didn't

1514
01:11:47,680 --> 01:11:50,400
Speaker 1: get into the run. You know what I'm saying. It

1515
01:11:50,520 --> 01:11:54,240
Speaker 1: was experience. Man, It grew me up, like it showed

1516
01:11:54,280 --> 01:11:55,880
Speaker 1: me like, man, you got to be a professional. You

1517
01:11:55,920 --> 01:11:58,320
Speaker 1: gotta take this ship like a job. Bro, this ship

1518
01:11:58,439 --> 01:12:00,880
Speaker 1: you go asking being the lead right now, but you ask.

1519
01:12:00,960 --> 01:12:02,360
Speaker 1: I also be gone like tomorrow.

1520
01:12:02,760 --> 01:12:05,320
Speaker 3: I wasn't when you did, when you and that that

1521
01:12:05,479 --> 01:12:08,799
Speaker 3: confetti dropped to y'all in that moment. I can remember

1522
01:12:08,840 --> 01:12:11,960
Speaker 3: watching on TV seeing all you'll boys, and I'm like, damn,

1523
01:12:12,600 --> 01:12:15,559
Speaker 3: every time you see somebody like damn, such such guy wing,

1524
01:12:15,680 --> 01:12:17,160
Speaker 3: such such guy went like the people you know.

1525
01:12:17,240 --> 01:12:19,240
Speaker 1: That you know you fucked with, like So how was

1526
01:12:19,320 --> 01:12:23,120
Speaker 1: that for you? Like, in that moment, I ain't gonna that, bro.

1527
01:12:23,200 --> 01:12:26,519
Speaker 1: It was contracted for me. Bro, they had already denied

1528
01:12:26,680 --> 01:12:29,479
Speaker 1: me extension. You know what I'm saying. I was happy,

1529
01:12:29,600 --> 01:12:31,680
Speaker 1: I was excited. I ain't gonna probably excited. My my

1530
01:12:31,800 --> 01:12:35,920
Speaker 1: family was excited. My mom and my sister, my brother. Well, ship,

1531
01:12:36,000 --> 01:12:38,519
Speaker 1: I was like, damn, what like you know, I'm looking

1532
01:12:38,520 --> 01:12:41,280
Speaker 1: at them, you know me, I was get paid. What's

1533
01:12:41,360 --> 01:12:42,639
Speaker 1: next for me? Man?

1534
01:12:42,800 --> 01:12:43,000
Speaker 4: Joe?

1535
01:12:43,040 --> 01:12:45,240
Speaker 3: I just told my a cl I'm like, man, damn

1536
01:12:45,560 --> 01:12:48,360
Speaker 3: at the town fight cases all type of ship like

1537
01:12:48,439 --> 01:12:49,240
Speaker 3: you you know what I'm saying.

1538
01:12:49,280 --> 01:12:51,439
Speaker 1: It was like, how the fun? I'm like, am I

1539
01:12:51,520 --> 01:12:52,120
Speaker 1: after league?

1540
01:12:52,120 --> 01:12:52,439
Speaker 4: After this?

1541
01:12:53,400 --> 01:12:54,400
Speaker 1: What the fuck going on?

1542
01:12:54,960 --> 01:12:55,120
Speaker 4: Right?

1543
01:12:55,880 --> 01:12:58,760
Speaker 1: And so I took it for what it was. But

1544
01:12:59,280 --> 01:13:02,920
Speaker 1: the operation and getting there, that's what I really honor.

1545
01:13:03,080 --> 01:13:08,479
Speaker 1: Like the parade, the champagne and the cheers was cool,

1546
01:13:09,040 --> 01:13:11,800
Speaker 1: but under the fact that like, damn, man, fat guys

1547
01:13:12,560 --> 01:13:14,720
Speaker 1: and the start lineup said we're gonna cut our heir Man,

1548
01:13:14,760 --> 01:13:18,280
Speaker 1: We're gonna we're gonna go ball. Bro, We're gonna like this,

1549
01:13:18,479 --> 01:13:20,479
Speaker 1: We're gonna let it be known we won Team one

1550
01:13:20,560 --> 01:13:23,759
Speaker 1: go man. Just the goal that was set out up front,

1551
01:13:23,840 --> 01:13:25,360
Speaker 1: like you know, they say, I'm boom too. You know

1552
01:13:25,400 --> 01:13:28,160
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like that was what we was rocking on. Man.

1553
01:13:28,200 --> 01:13:30,719
Speaker 1: You know, I can only be better when you we together,

1554
01:13:30,840 --> 01:13:35,679
Speaker 1: you feel me? And we actually rolled with that man

1555
01:13:35,720 --> 01:13:37,479
Speaker 1: to see it all come true. It was definitely. It

1556
01:13:37,560 --> 01:13:40,200
Speaker 1: was definitely a blessing. But man, what I picked them

1557
01:13:40,200 --> 01:13:43,200
Speaker 1: from all of that, just those guys preparation.

1558
01:13:44,080 --> 01:13:44,880
Speaker 4: Have you ever been?

1559
01:13:45,720 --> 01:13:45,760
Speaker 3: Like?

1560
01:13:46,120 --> 01:13:48,680
Speaker 2: Because I came, y'all won a championship. I came to

1561
01:13:48,800 --> 01:13:51,680
Speaker 2: that training camp the next year, I was there. I

1562
01:13:51,840 --> 01:13:54,960
Speaker 2: was there the first two months September in October.

1563
01:13:54,640 --> 01:13:57,720
Speaker 1: Portland was playing with you. Yeah, but I seen how

1564
01:13:59,200 --> 01:13:59,880
Speaker 1: have you ever been?

1565
01:14:00,200 --> 01:14:04,519
Speaker 2: It's tight and it's close as a team out of

1566
01:14:04,600 --> 01:14:06,600
Speaker 2: any teams that you ever played with. Because when I

1567
01:14:06,680 --> 01:14:08,880
Speaker 2: got there, I was like, man, I see all, y'all

1568
01:14:08,960 --> 01:14:11,280
Speaker 2: was different personalities, but y'all was close.

1569
01:14:12,479 --> 01:14:15,120
Speaker 1: It's hell, that's a fact. You know what I'm saying,

1570
01:14:15,160 --> 01:14:17,559
Speaker 1: y'all joking on each other like something of the ship

1571
01:14:17,720 --> 01:14:18,599
Speaker 1: and the ticket was saying.

1572
01:14:18,680 --> 01:14:22,000
Speaker 2: I was just like, bro that boy our Wow, you

1573
01:14:22,120 --> 01:14:25,360
Speaker 2: know that's a fact. That's like, but y'all was against

1574
01:14:25,560 --> 01:14:29,080
Speaker 2: y'all was with each other. But y'all was against everybody.

1575
01:14:29,360 --> 01:14:31,439
Speaker 2: It was like one of the things like I don't know,

1576
01:14:31,560 --> 01:14:34,040
Speaker 2: ticket was tinking this. He thought we was back in

1577
01:14:34,080 --> 01:14:36,240
Speaker 2: the rack. I ain't gonna last. He was acting like

1578
01:14:36,280 --> 01:14:37,640
Speaker 2: we was back in the rack. But we won in

1579
01:14:37,680 --> 01:14:40,160
Speaker 2: the rack. So I'm really looking at it like, man,

1580
01:14:40,240 --> 01:14:41,680
Speaker 2: we basketball.

1581
01:14:42,280 --> 01:14:46,400
Speaker 1: Want to let you get nobody else no props, however, bro, and.

1582
01:14:46,479 --> 01:14:48,680
Speaker 4: It's crazy you brought up that so you on the

1583
01:14:48,760 --> 01:14:55,439
Speaker 4: bus suck him off, then that should be wow. Like

1584
01:14:55,920 --> 01:14:58,000
Speaker 4: he was killing he was like it was sucking out.

1585
01:14:58,040 --> 01:15:01,920
Speaker 4: Then you didn't know how you know that?

1586
01:15:02,280 --> 01:15:03,880
Speaker 1: Come on, man, we've been doing this long now. We

1587
01:15:04,120 --> 01:15:05,200
Speaker 1: heard so many stories.

1588
01:15:05,479 --> 01:15:08,559
Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, bro. And it'd be like you look

1589
01:15:08,640 --> 01:15:10,360
Speaker 3: at the stat sheet. You know they give you all

1590
01:15:10,400 --> 01:15:12,280
Speaker 3: the scores in the back of the league. Back in

1591
01:15:12,280 --> 01:15:14,040
Speaker 3: the day, they used to get the scores for all

1592
01:15:14,120 --> 01:15:15,160
Speaker 3: the team on the bus and.

1593
01:15:15,160 --> 01:15:16,880
Speaker 4: Got the whole thing like this, Like damn.

1594
01:15:18,560 --> 01:15:21,320
Speaker 1: Still today you're like boy way in the back.

1595
01:15:21,479 --> 01:15:23,920
Speaker 3: So motherfucker what But look, you could be talking about

1596
01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:26,760
Speaker 3: Trent Hassel, you be talking about Trent House.

1597
01:15:26,840 --> 01:15:29,599
Speaker 1: Motherfucker ain't hit nothing. Soon as you say, yeah, Chris

1598
01:15:29,680 --> 01:15:34,960
Speaker 1: Bosch had twenty five or seventeen. Suck them up, bit man,

1599
01:15:35,080 --> 01:15:35,920
Speaker 1: I be talking about No.

1600
01:15:36,080 --> 01:15:37,240
Speaker 4: Four, man No. Five.

1601
01:15:38,040 --> 01:15:40,679
Speaker 1: When that boy said this is preseason, I was back

1602
01:15:40,760 --> 01:15:44,440
Speaker 1: there crying. Boy, that's a fact. That's the fact. That's

1603
01:15:44,479 --> 01:15:48,000
Speaker 1: a fact. But I think I think that's you know,

1604
01:15:48,040 --> 01:15:50,240
Speaker 1: when you play bro, everybody need a draft. You know

1605
01:15:50,280 --> 01:15:52,920
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like, I ain't even lie, like just

1606
01:15:52,960 --> 01:15:56,320
Speaker 1: saying this other day. Kevin Martin, y'all know Kevin Martin. Yo,

1607
01:15:56,400 --> 01:15:58,040
Speaker 1: he was an all star. You know what I'm saying.

1608
01:15:58,080 --> 01:16:00,519
Speaker 1: He did his thing, big shot him. But it was

1609
01:16:00,640 --> 01:16:05,280
Speaker 1: something about him getting these buckets. It was like, bro,

1610
01:16:05,760 --> 01:16:08,639
Speaker 1: he on our scout report. Man, this man went twenty six.

1611
01:16:08,720 --> 01:16:10,320
Speaker 1: Hold on time, all stock.

1612
01:16:10,200 --> 01:16:12,280
Speaker 3: You let me tell you what it is about about him.

1613
01:16:12,439 --> 01:16:16,080
Speaker 3: For you you from Chicago, I'm like, I ain't going,

1614
01:16:16,520 --> 01:16:20,040
Speaker 3: ain't going. I ain't going, I promise you. So every

1615
01:16:20,200 --> 01:16:22,600
Speaker 3: night night and when we played them, it was like,

1616
01:16:22,720 --> 01:16:25,720
Speaker 3: hold on, brot men tell me, y'all think he liked that?

1617
01:16:26,560 --> 01:16:29,760
Speaker 1: And it was something built in in me that I

1618
01:16:29,920 --> 01:16:34,000
Speaker 1: know he nice. I'm not gonna hated that, but I'm

1619
01:16:34,160 --> 01:16:37,280
Speaker 1: just ain't about the honor that I'm gonna I'm about

1620
01:16:37,320 --> 01:16:40,000
Speaker 1: to compete with that I'm against so this is it

1621
01:16:40,120 --> 01:16:41,640
Speaker 1: was one of them, one of the things that I

1622
01:16:41,720 --> 01:16:47,800
Speaker 1: think Ticket instilled early and he kept at the drive him. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1623
01:16:47,840 --> 01:16:50,840
Speaker 1: I got some pills. That's that's nice. But I'm gonna

1624
01:16:50,840 --> 01:16:51,400
Speaker 1: get y'all.

1625
01:16:51,320 --> 01:16:53,200
Speaker 4: I got bullshit every time I got to.

1626
01:16:54,680 --> 01:16:57,439
Speaker 2: If Ticket went, that got hurt, and we would have

1627
01:16:57,439 --> 01:17:02,280
Speaker 2: got three years of Lake or Celtics, who would have

1628
01:17:02,360 --> 01:17:05,720
Speaker 2: had two to one because both of y'all won one.

1629
01:17:06,760 --> 01:17:09,920
Speaker 2: Y'all won the first one meeting, they won the second meeting,

1630
01:17:10,400 --> 01:17:12,479
Speaker 2: but it was a year in between that Ticket got

1631
01:17:12,600 --> 01:17:15,599
Speaker 2: hurt and they adn't make it to make the Lakers

1632
01:17:15,680 --> 01:17:16,479
Speaker 2: win too in a row.

1633
01:17:18,360 --> 01:17:20,120
Speaker 1: So if y'all had that year, I'll tell you what.

1634
01:17:20,200 --> 01:17:20,640
Speaker 4: I tell you what.

1635
01:17:21,439 --> 01:17:24,240
Speaker 1: Seeing Bro hurt that that year, I ain't gonna lie.

1636
01:17:24,560 --> 01:17:28,240
Speaker 1: I haven't seen days of crying and training trying to

1637
01:17:28,320 --> 01:17:31,600
Speaker 1: get back like I hadn't seen times with him like

1638
01:17:31,840 --> 01:17:34,320
Speaker 1: just looking at it like damn, I want to be

1639
01:17:34,400 --> 01:17:37,920
Speaker 1: out there with y'all. Like so I knew it meant

1640
01:17:38,000 --> 01:17:41,800
Speaker 1: more than him like trying to get back and helping

1641
01:17:41,880 --> 01:17:44,840
Speaker 1: his guys than actually us being in that field without him,

1642
01:17:45,240 --> 01:17:48,439
Speaker 1: because he like man if y'all had me, he knew

1643
01:17:48,479 --> 01:17:51,720
Speaker 1: his worth then, like and it showed when we went

1644
01:17:51,840 --> 01:17:56,960
Speaker 1: back in twenty ten. Boohm, we lose another soldier, Kendrick Perkins.

1645
01:17:57,840 --> 01:18:02,040
Speaker 3: I feel we the one that year that Perk Perk

1646
01:18:02,160 --> 01:18:04,240
Speaker 3: was shuttingh it down by them, was frustrated.

1647
01:18:05,120 --> 01:18:07,439
Speaker 1: You fee, I'm saying he wore he wore the guys out,

1648
01:18:07,479 --> 01:18:09,560
Speaker 1: he wote sheet out. You know what I'm saying. He

1649
01:18:09,560 --> 01:18:11,519
Speaker 1: ain't players ben second half. And you know a lot

1650
01:18:11,520 --> 01:18:13,040
Speaker 1: of people that get on Doc ass for that, But

1651
01:18:13,320 --> 01:18:14,920
Speaker 1: I love that man. I ain't gonna lie, don't got

1652
01:18:15,000 --> 01:18:17,519
Speaker 1: nothing bad say about it. I love Doc Rills, And

1653
01:18:18,800 --> 01:18:20,680
Speaker 1: you know, he went with his guys like it like that,

1654
01:18:20,880 --> 01:18:22,920
Speaker 1: like like like any like any of y'all would do.

1655
01:18:23,160 --> 01:18:26,160
Speaker 1: Like if you're saying it, if you're saying we're finna

1656
01:18:26,200 --> 01:18:29,720
Speaker 1: go do some some combat shit, let's just not. Let's

1657
01:18:29,720 --> 01:18:32,960
Speaker 1: say some athletic shit. You're gonna pick your most athletic guys.

1658
01:18:33,720 --> 01:18:35,800
Speaker 1: I need y'all to go jump over these hurdles. You're

1659
01:18:35,800 --> 01:18:39,320
Speaker 1: gonna go get d mail, You're gonna go get running field,

1660
01:18:39,400 --> 01:18:41,519
Speaker 1: you gonna go like you gonna name all the shot

1661
01:18:41,600 --> 01:18:43,639
Speaker 1: town guys that can jump hiding them ontherfucker.

1662
01:18:44,160 --> 01:18:46,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, you got some bruises, but you gonna go with

1663
01:18:46,360 --> 01:18:49,400
Speaker 3: your guys. That's gonna go to that job, and all

1664
01:18:49,479 --> 01:18:51,680
Speaker 3: them guys that was fit for that. You know, he

1665
01:18:51,920 --> 01:18:52,719
Speaker 3: went with his guys.

1666
01:18:52,800 --> 01:18:56,760
Speaker 1: But I just think man us getting there in twenty ten,

1667
01:18:57,040 --> 01:18:59,720
Speaker 1: and you know, I just think we was short one.

1668
01:18:59,800 --> 01:19:04,280
Speaker 3: So they tell me this, right, anybody played in that era, No,

1669
01:19:06,280 --> 01:19:10,640
Speaker 3: Kobe was the dude, and everybody dishonest with theyself was

1670
01:19:10,680 --> 01:19:12,479
Speaker 3: gonna say it, like, how was it for you?

1671
01:19:12,479 --> 01:19:13,320
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.

1672
01:19:13,360 --> 01:19:16,320
Speaker 3: You played against him many NBA finals on the highest

1673
01:19:16,439 --> 01:19:18,400
Speaker 3: level and you did your ship.

1674
01:19:18,640 --> 01:19:20,040
Speaker 4: You the one one lost one.

1675
01:19:20,080 --> 01:19:20,639
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

1676
01:19:20,680 --> 01:19:24,320
Speaker 3: And he's somebody, well you somebody that as great as

1677
01:19:24,360 --> 01:19:27,639
Speaker 3: he is, that he names like this motherfucker was the dog.

1678
01:19:28,200 --> 01:19:30,360
Speaker 4: He gave me problems. You knew what it was. Ain't

1679
01:19:30,360 --> 01:19:30,640
Speaker 4: nothing like.

1680
01:19:31,840 --> 01:19:33,840
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying, Like, what do that mean for

1681
01:19:33,960 --> 01:19:38,840
Speaker 3: you to have somebody that he was the standard for

1682
01:19:39,040 --> 01:19:42,280
Speaker 3: our generation? He was the dude, He was the measuring stick.

1683
01:19:42,720 --> 01:19:45,880
Speaker 3: And for him to single you out, he don't do that.

1684
01:19:46,080 --> 01:19:49,080
Speaker 3: He hadn't, you know, God bless that he hadn't done

1685
01:19:49,120 --> 01:19:51,400
Speaker 3: that about a lot of people. But he singled you

1686
01:19:51,560 --> 01:19:54,800
Speaker 3: out and called your name and said this motherfucker here

1687
01:19:56,760 --> 01:19:59,400
Speaker 3: already know that he could have did anybody, Like, what

1688
01:19:59,520 --> 01:20:01,760
Speaker 3: does that mean to you to know that he he

1689
01:20:01,960 --> 01:20:04,320
Speaker 3: put that type of respect on your name and what

1690
01:20:04,479 --> 01:20:06,479
Speaker 3: you did and what you brought to the table as

1691
01:20:06,520 --> 01:20:08,400
Speaker 3: a defender. This ain't got should have do an offense

1692
01:20:08,479 --> 01:20:10,519
Speaker 3: or nothing. This got to do with the harder side

1693
01:20:10,560 --> 01:20:10,920
Speaker 3: of the ball.

1694
01:20:11,080 --> 01:20:15,719
Speaker 1: First thing. First, it was. It was definitely a surprising moment.

1695
01:20:15,800 --> 01:20:20,439
Speaker 1: I was definitely flattered, but more swiming pointly. Man back then, Man,

1696
01:20:20,560 --> 01:20:22,360
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie. It took so much out of

1697
01:20:22,439 --> 01:20:25,839
Speaker 1: me just to prepare for him, and just my teachings

1698
01:20:25,920 --> 01:20:29,439
Speaker 1: came from James Posey, man, Like I watched James Posey.

1699
01:20:30,160 --> 01:20:33,160
Speaker 1: I watched James Posey prepare for that man, and I

1700
01:20:33,439 --> 01:20:36,479
Speaker 1: actually I watched James. I really took his whole DNA.

1701
01:20:36,600 --> 01:20:38,080
Speaker 1: I forgot to even give him a shout out, but

1702
01:20:38,120 --> 01:20:40,680
Speaker 1: I took his whole DNA. The way he prepared for

1703
01:20:40,800 --> 01:20:42,880
Speaker 1: a game, the way he kept his focus in the game,

1704
01:20:43,400 --> 01:20:45,680
Speaker 1: the way he had that laptop that went and brought

1705
01:20:45,720 --> 01:20:49,080
Speaker 1: me the same laptop he getting, man, big ass laptop. Man,

1706
01:20:49,080 --> 01:20:52,160
Speaker 1: I'm talking about he'd be watching film and all the

1707
01:20:52,320 --> 01:20:55,519
Speaker 1: people he playing I'm talking about he getting, he getting

1708
01:20:55,560 --> 01:20:59,080
Speaker 1: they transitions, move getting their offensive like the isolation moves,

1709
01:20:59,080 --> 01:21:01,320
Speaker 1: he getting they pick and ro old moves. He getting

1710
01:21:01,320 --> 01:21:03,599
Speaker 1: when they drive left, he getting when they drive right.

1711
01:21:04,520 --> 01:21:06,240
Speaker 1: And I asked him one day, and I asked Hi

1712
01:21:06,280 --> 01:21:08,080
Speaker 1: him like, damn, like what you looking at? He was like,

1713
01:21:08,120 --> 01:21:10,680
Speaker 1: I'm looking at tendencies. Like so I know when I

1714
01:21:10,720 --> 01:21:14,160
Speaker 1: get these situations out of FID so boom, so boom.

1715
01:21:14,240 --> 01:21:17,080
Speaker 1: I fast forward twenty ten, I get to play against cold.

1716
01:21:18,240 --> 01:21:20,400
Speaker 1: That's what I had been doing ever since he got

1717
01:21:20,560 --> 01:21:24,080
Speaker 1: went to wait with the Pelicans. I'm like, this is

1718
01:21:24,120 --> 01:21:26,240
Speaker 1: what I'm on. I'm picking up that right there. Every

1719
01:21:26,320 --> 01:21:28,160
Speaker 1: motherfucker that I run against it. I don't give a

1720
01:21:28,160 --> 01:21:32,640
Speaker 1: fuck of you. Terrence Ross. Yeah, I'm watching all your tendencies.

1721
01:21:33,200 --> 01:21:35,160
Speaker 1: So you want to just catch and shoot, You want

1722
01:21:35,200 --> 01:21:37,280
Speaker 1: to just drive left and take off? No, your ad

1723
01:21:37,280 --> 01:21:39,519
Speaker 1: gotta go this way. You fee what I'm saying. And

1724
01:21:40,200 --> 01:21:42,559
Speaker 1: I took his whole blueprint, and so to get there

1725
01:21:42,680 --> 01:21:45,880
Speaker 1: to the finals, man and actually see it effectively work,

1726
01:21:46,600 --> 01:21:50,040
Speaker 1: I gotta get my kudos to change posy and and

1727
01:21:50,240 --> 01:21:52,360
Speaker 1: love make shot the posing and a lot of people

1728
01:21:52,400 --> 01:21:54,400
Speaker 1: don't know man, Me and me and Cole never had

1729
01:21:54,400 --> 01:21:55,000
Speaker 1: a conversation.

1730
01:21:55,640 --> 01:21:57,800
Speaker 3: That's the coldest thing about him, though, bro. Like that's

1731
01:21:57,840 --> 01:21:59,680
Speaker 3: why I asked, what does that mean? Because he's not

1732
01:21:59,840 --> 01:22:03,600
Speaker 3: somebody who nobody even saw him fuck a conversation.

1733
01:22:03,720 --> 01:22:05,320
Speaker 4: You didn't see him if it wasn't on the court.

1734
01:22:05,360 --> 01:22:06,519
Speaker 3: And most of the time when he saw him in

1735
01:22:06,560 --> 01:22:10,160
Speaker 3: the court, he was looking crazy, like in his bag

1736
01:22:10,320 --> 01:22:10,960
Speaker 3: in his zone.

1737
01:22:11,520 --> 01:22:14,240
Speaker 1: Say some slick ship till you fuck with your head trying.

1738
01:22:14,760 --> 01:22:15,160
Speaker 4: Nothing to me.

1739
01:22:15,439 --> 01:22:17,679
Speaker 1: No, I'm just saying, like the pitch y'all Eastern.

1740
01:22:17,720 --> 01:22:19,920
Speaker 3: Well, we played against some more times because I was

1741
01:22:19,960 --> 01:22:22,760
Speaker 3: on the West, so I would get little ship, you

1742
01:22:22,800 --> 01:22:24,880
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. But like it's still like that's

1743
01:22:24,880 --> 01:22:27,240
Speaker 3: why he said smart and sat down with him, Like, bro,

1744
01:22:27,360 --> 01:22:29,320
Speaker 3: we had never had a conversation with you.

1745
01:22:29,640 --> 01:22:31,800
Speaker 1: Cute. This man was so smart, bro. Right, So listen

1746
01:22:32,000 --> 01:22:35,680
Speaker 1: when I stopped studying him so much, right, you know

1747
01:22:35,760 --> 01:22:38,320
Speaker 1: I'll overplay you. I think my best defense is than that.

1748
01:22:39,200 --> 01:22:40,599
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I keep one foot behind

1749
01:22:40,640 --> 01:22:42,680
Speaker 1: you ain't gonna back doome me. I'm now you do

1750
01:22:42,800 --> 01:22:44,840
Speaker 1: past this offense gotta be ran I might get this.

1751
01:22:44,920 --> 01:22:47,200
Speaker 1: Still I'm going the other way. That's my best defense.

1752
01:22:48,240 --> 01:22:52,200
Speaker 1: This motherfucker was so smart he'll hook your foot.

1753
01:22:52,280 --> 01:22:54,960
Speaker 3: No, no fuck that he'd get to speaking of Spanish

1754
01:22:55,680 --> 01:23:03,360
Speaker 3: to the pallid just saying some type of ship idios meos.

1755
01:23:05,720 --> 01:23:06,280
Speaker 1: Job meg.

1756
01:23:07,000 --> 01:23:10,880
Speaker 4: He'll get to saying whatever I'm saying myself. What the

1757
01:23:11,000 --> 01:23:12,479
Speaker 4: fuck is you speaking? His betters?

1758
01:23:13,840 --> 01:23:17,280
Speaker 3: I know you setting up the upscreen so he could

1759
01:23:17,320 --> 01:23:20,320
Speaker 3: pass it to you on you when you up corner

1760
01:23:21,240 --> 01:23:23,800
Speaker 3: setting up the All right, I'm a flash so I

1761
01:23:23,840 --> 01:23:27,720
Speaker 3: can go back though on the trainingle is gonna be

1762
01:23:27,840 --> 01:23:30,840
Speaker 3: running only so many ways. You get what I'm saying.

1763
01:23:31,240 --> 01:23:33,920
Speaker 3: So you speaking in all this Spanish, you ain't fooling me.

1764
01:23:34,040 --> 01:23:36,559
Speaker 1: Brof you know what I'm saying.

1765
01:23:36,760 --> 01:23:39,360
Speaker 4: So that's overplay for the underplay. So I'm like, I

1766
01:23:39,479 --> 01:23:41,200
Speaker 4: studied him, that must even learn that.

1767
01:23:41,320 --> 01:23:44,439
Speaker 3: So when you see he shot thirty percent that specific year,

1768
01:23:44,960 --> 01:23:48,040
Speaker 3: it was for me to studying and I get all

1769
01:23:48,120 --> 01:23:49,720
Speaker 3: them kudos and James Post.

1770
01:23:49,960 --> 01:23:50,960
Speaker 4: That's sick right there.

1771
01:23:51,000 --> 01:23:53,720
Speaker 3: I like pose, pose, get a lot of love and

1772
01:23:54,040 --> 01:23:55,920
Speaker 3: you know, the leadership and ship like that. But I

1773
01:23:56,000 --> 01:23:59,640
Speaker 3: still think it's understated who he was and the championships

1774
01:23:59,680 --> 01:24:00,000
Speaker 3: he can.

1775
01:24:00,960 --> 01:24:05,719
Speaker 2: Like, for sure you and post Eddie House, Sam CAUSEL PJ.

1776
01:24:05,960 --> 01:24:09,960
Speaker 2: Brown adding on to what that starting five did the

1777
01:24:10,080 --> 01:24:14,080
Speaker 2: perk KG, Paul and Ray and Rondo, that was a

1778
01:24:14,120 --> 01:24:17,040
Speaker 2: whole nother starting five right there coming off the bench, No,

1779
01:24:17,160 --> 01:24:19,440
Speaker 2: for sure and not letting up on folks.

1780
01:24:20,080 --> 01:24:22,880
Speaker 3: Did you think leaving Boston and going to Memphis was

1781
01:24:22,960 --> 01:24:25,000
Speaker 3: gonna be as good as it was? Did you think,

1782
01:24:25,200 --> 01:24:29,400
Speaker 3: like because you're leaving the championship organization? Memphis clearly wasn't

1783
01:24:29,479 --> 01:24:32,479
Speaker 3: that when you went there. And we know how it

1784
01:24:32,600 --> 01:24:34,479
Speaker 3: is when you and the league, you're gonna go where

1785
01:24:34,520 --> 01:24:36,519
Speaker 3: that contract sitting there and where the money at. It

1786
01:24:36,760 --> 01:24:39,080
Speaker 3: depends on what the time and the scenario and what

1787
01:24:39,200 --> 01:24:41,920
Speaker 3: you got out there. But like leaving Boston and going

1788
01:24:42,000 --> 01:24:44,000
Speaker 3: to Memphis, what was you thinking when you were going

1789
01:24:44,040 --> 01:24:46,439
Speaker 3: there that you think it was gonna be like fruitful?

1790
01:24:46,560 --> 01:24:47,200
Speaker 4: Like it became.

1791
01:24:47,800 --> 01:24:50,400
Speaker 1: No, Bro, you gotta figure when I got the NBA Finals, Bro,

1792
01:24:50,479 --> 01:24:56,240
Speaker 1: you gotta figure I ain't saying that contract until August tenth,

1793
01:24:56,840 --> 01:25:00,559
Speaker 1: late almost camp time. Like I'm sitting act I'm talking

1794
01:25:00,560 --> 01:25:02,840
Speaker 1: about I'm so frustrated. I'm like, damn, I just got

1795
01:25:02,880 --> 01:25:05,760
Speaker 1: through competing with Kobe. He shot his lord's percentage in

1796
01:25:05,960 --> 01:25:10,800
Speaker 1: any series on the strength of me him being my assignment.

1797
01:25:10,840 --> 01:25:14,439
Speaker 1: And so I waited all the way until like late August,

1798
01:25:14,479 --> 01:25:18,280
Speaker 1: and then I remember my co Cibrian co Cibrians like

1799
01:25:18,400 --> 01:25:21,080
Speaker 1: yo yo. I got Chris Wallace on the line. He

1800
01:25:21,560 --> 01:25:23,479
Speaker 1: trying to see what would you think about coming to Memphis.

1801
01:25:23,560 --> 01:25:25,840
Speaker 1: And at the time, when you come to Memphis, Bro, you.

1802
01:25:26,040 --> 01:25:31,880
Speaker 3: Doing contract and then you doing treye swaps all that type,

1803
01:25:31,920 --> 01:25:34,200
Speaker 3: like we're trying to rebid.

1804
01:25:35,080 --> 01:25:36,880
Speaker 1: But this ain't where you just see to go. And

1805
01:25:37,000 --> 01:25:39,680
Speaker 1: so once they put that money on the table, they

1806
01:25:39,800 --> 01:25:43,000
Speaker 1: had one little they had one little discrepancy.

1807
01:25:43,160 --> 01:25:43,240
Speaker 4: Bro.

1808
01:25:44,320 --> 01:25:48,519
Speaker 1: They said in this documented they said, Chris Wallace said,

1809
01:25:48,920 --> 01:25:51,920
Speaker 1: I know you're about to go. He say, Man, can

1810
01:25:52,000 --> 01:25:55,440
Speaker 1: you and Zach Randolph play with tell y'all two different affiliations?

1811
01:25:56,760 --> 01:26:00,200
Speaker 1: I said, what man, mag was sitting at the year

1812
01:26:00,200 --> 01:26:01,879
Speaker 1: about State and motherfucking Ontario.

1813
01:26:02,160 --> 01:26:04,800
Speaker 4: Man, I've been scratching my head in motherfucking night. Man,

1814
01:26:04,880 --> 01:26:05,760
Speaker 4: you don't give me this deal?

1815
01:26:05,840 --> 01:26:09,559
Speaker 1: Man, what we doing? I said, yeah, making me, Yeah,

1816
01:26:09,640 --> 01:26:10,040
Speaker 1: we're good.

1817
01:26:10,560 --> 01:26:10,760
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1818
01:26:11,400 --> 01:26:14,040
Speaker 1: He he flew me to They flew me to Memphis,

1819
01:26:14,560 --> 01:26:18,080
Speaker 1: took my physical and then recipes Lorenz are right, because

1820
01:26:18,080 --> 01:26:19,760
Speaker 1: this is when I first ran back into z Bo

1821
01:26:21,080 --> 01:26:23,360
Speaker 1: and I say, man, Joe, you know they I'm about

1822
01:26:23,360 --> 01:26:25,360
Speaker 1: to sign a contract. Later on they told me. You know,

1823
01:26:25,439 --> 01:26:27,800
Speaker 1: they saying we can't play together. Man, you know this

1824
01:26:27,880 --> 01:26:30,599
Speaker 1: that And you say no man, He say, bro, were

1825
01:26:30,600 --> 01:26:33,400
Speaker 1: about to make some noise and I ain't gonna lie.

1826
01:26:33,479 --> 01:26:35,840
Speaker 1: Z Bo was there, authentic man, he said, Man, were

1827
01:26:35,840 --> 01:26:38,439
Speaker 1: about to make some you know like that. Before then,

1828
01:26:38,680 --> 01:26:41,200
Speaker 1: you know, we had ran into each other couple of times, covers,

1829
01:26:41,280 --> 01:26:43,240
Speaker 1: couple little shake Johnson. You know what I'm saying.

1830
01:26:44,080 --> 01:26:56,720
Speaker 4: You know, man, you know you know what? What?

1831
01:26:56,960 --> 01:26:58,479
Speaker 1: What did you and Zebo?

1832
01:27:00,000 --> 01:27:03,200
Speaker 2: Because I was there the year before and I seen

1833
01:27:03,320 --> 01:27:09,600
Speaker 2: Mike Conley have talent, Rudy gay O, Ja, Marcusol, but

1834
01:27:09,720 --> 01:27:11,400
Speaker 2: they was missing something.

1835
01:27:11,800 --> 01:27:16,960
Speaker 1: Then you and z Bo come to town and it changed.

1836
01:27:17,479 --> 01:27:20,200
Speaker 1: Actually was there before me? He was, yeah, they you

1837
01:27:20,280 --> 01:27:23,080
Speaker 1: know they had so so I was that. I was

1838
01:27:23,160 --> 01:27:25,320
Speaker 1: the US that that year too, when they when y'all

1839
01:27:25,400 --> 01:27:27,360
Speaker 1: lost ten games. I remember, I remember the whole story

1840
01:27:27,360 --> 01:27:30,640
Speaker 1: on you. Well they Memphis. They were saying, Memphis, if

1841
01:27:30,720 --> 01:27:33,400
Speaker 1: Memphis play you, they gonna lose X amount of dollars.

1842
01:27:34,720 --> 01:27:37,200
Speaker 1: They got hit, So they played. They did that day year.

1843
01:27:37,479 --> 01:27:40,240
Speaker 1: Y'all had lost that year, average play that year and

1844
01:27:40,320 --> 01:27:44,080
Speaker 1: then you got there, right, yeah he did. They was

1845
01:27:44,120 --> 01:27:46,040
Speaker 1: ten games out of five hundred. You know, they missed it,

1846
01:27:46,120 --> 01:27:48,840
Speaker 1: but they made one sign in that yet. And so

1847
01:27:49,280 --> 01:27:52,120
Speaker 1: that specific signing, you know, I guess you know the

1848
01:27:52,200 --> 01:27:55,040
Speaker 1: coach wanted you know, he wanted the real right, they're

1849
01:27:55,040 --> 01:27:57,280
Speaker 1: all saying he wanted space and he wanted some you know,

1850
01:27:57,439 --> 01:27:57,920
Speaker 1: some shoot.

1851
01:27:59,400 --> 01:28:00,200
Speaker 4: So I got it.

1852
01:28:00,320 --> 01:28:03,240
Speaker 1: Was like man, the coaches like, man, what finals you

1853
01:28:03,400 --> 01:28:06,400
Speaker 1: just uh with this team, we need a three point shooter.

1854
01:28:06,880 --> 01:28:10,080
Speaker 1: And so within that, we're gonna roll with our shooters, man,

1855
01:28:10,280 --> 01:28:11,800
Speaker 1: and I ain't gonna lie if I played.

1856
01:28:11,840 --> 01:28:16,240
Speaker 4: It was either said Atlanta, yeah, Wenna get.

1857
01:28:16,160 --> 01:28:17,080
Speaker 1: We gonna gona.

1858
01:28:17,640 --> 01:28:21,680
Speaker 3: But he definitely put he definitely put the press on

1859
01:28:21,840 --> 01:28:24,439
Speaker 3: me like, bro, you can't shoot that motherfucker.

1860
01:28:24,560 --> 01:28:27,200
Speaker 1: I needed a shooter. He was like, you're gonna play

1861
01:28:27,200 --> 01:28:28,840
Speaker 1: if I can fit you in. And he kept it

1862
01:28:28,960 --> 01:28:32,120
Speaker 1: that blunt. You know, we had drafted a rookie guard

1863
01:28:32,280 --> 01:28:38,599
Speaker 1: name exactly Henry. Oh yeah, I ain't gonna let Rudy came.

1864
01:28:38,760 --> 01:28:43,160
Speaker 1: Rudy came to training camp with the with the exiviate Henry.

1865
01:28:44,160 --> 01:28:47,559
Speaker 1: You know grammar school pitch on like you know, giving

1866
01:28:47,640 --> 01:28:49,519
Speaker 1: me the impression like damn, bro, like this is who

1867
01:28:49,560 --> 01:28:51,799
Speaker 1: you want to start at the two? Like y'all already

1868
01:28:51,800 --> 01:28:54,040
Speaker 1: made it clear, y'all bring oj May off the bench.

1869
01:28:54,840 --> 01:28:55,559
Speaker 4: Ain't enough rock.

1870
01:28:56,040 --> 01:28:58,120
Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying, so o J gonna shoot

1871
01:28:58,160 --> 01:29:01,600
Speaker 1: that thing, so they that OJ to the bench. You

1872
01:29:01,600 --> 01:29:02,960
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I'm thinking, I'm coming here, I'm

1873
01:29:02,960 --> 01:29:05,200
Speaker 1: about to start, you know what I'm saying. And it

1874
01:29:05,280 --> 01:29:08,560
Speaker 1: didn't go that way. And for the most part, Coach Holland.

1875
01:29:08,320 --> 01:29:10,680
Speaker 4: Just you know, he was just a tough nose coach. Bro.

1876
01:29:10,800 --> 01:29:12,760
Speaker 3: You know what I Mentally he was trying to like

1877
01:29:12,920 --> 01:29:15,200
Speaker 3: just show me, like you wanna have to work for this,

1878
01:29:15,920 --> 01:29:18,320
Speaker 3: and so you know, I ended up working for what man?

1879
01:29:18,400 --> 01:29:20,280
Speaker 1: And that was that man. How was it?

1880
01:29:20,400 --> 01:29:23,599
Speaker 4: Making first team All Defense the first time man.

1881
01:29:23,720 --> 01:29:26,240
Speaker 1: Making first team All Defense meant the world of me

1882
01:29:26,360 --> 01:29:29,679
Speaker 1: because the first year I got second team All Defense,

1883
01:29:29,720 --> 01:29:31,840
Speaker 1: I thought I should have been first team. You feel me,

1884
01:29:32,000 --> 01:29:33,720
Speaker 1: I gotta figure like, you know, we got to lock

1885
01:29:33,800 --> 01:29:38,759
Speaker 1: down Mino Jernobili. I'm in here, I'm competing with Kevin Durant.

1886
01:29:38,800 --> 01:29:40,720
Speaker 1: I'm you know what I'm saying I'm just like that's

1887
01:29:40,720 --> 01:29:43,200
Speaker 1: specifically that whole year, like the best of the best.

1888
01:29:43,320 --> 01:29:45,439
Speaker 1: Like I don't want to like, don't put me on

1889
01:29:45,640 --> 01:29:50,919
Speaker 1: your I don't want to stick, no stationary shooters.

1890
01:29:50,920 --> 01:29:51,200
Speaker 3: I want.

1891
01:29:51,280 --> 01:29:52,519
Speaker 1: I want everybody in action.

1892
01:29:53,320 --> 01:29:53,760
Speaker 4: You feel me.

1893
01:29:53,840 --> 01:29:55,599
Speaker 3: That's how I gotta survive. That's how I gotta eat,

1894
01:29:55,600 --> 01:29:57,000
Speaker 3: This's how I gotta feel. This's how I gotta fan

1895
01:29:57,120 --> 01:29:57,519
Speaker 3: my role.

1896
01:29:57,720 --> 01:29:59,160
Speaker 4: And I was birth from that.

1897
01:29:59,240 --> 01:30:01,040
Speaker 3: From Boston, it was like, all right, cool Ray Allen

1898
01:30:01,080 --> 01:30:03,880
Speaker 3: shooting all these threes, Paul isolating. You can look at

1899
01:30:03,920 --> 01:30:08,560
Speaker 3: the salaries, you can tell who's who's from that and

1900
01:30:08,760 --> 01:30:10,360
Speaker 3: from when I got the Memphis I was just like

1901
01:30:10,479 --> 01:30:12,880
Speaker 3: on that man. I remember Vivially telling Bally gay Man,

1902
01:30:12,960 --> 01:30:15,880
Speaker 3: Hey man, I'm that guy. Bro down the stretch. It's

1903
01:30:15,960 --> 01:30:18,880
Speaker 3: me bro oja COB's come off the bench whatever whatever.

1904
01:30:18,960 --> 01:30:20,840
Speaker 3: He could play throughout the game. Last five minute, Bro,

1905
01:30:20,960 --> 01:30:21,559
Speaker 3: bring me in. Bro.

1906
01:30:21,680 --> 01:30:22,759
Speaker 1: You ain't got to stick nobody.

1907
01:30:22,840 --> 01:30:22,920
Speaker 4: Bro.

1908
01:30:23,000 --> 01:30:25,560
Speaker 1: I got you. Man. That man told me Man, you

1909
01:30:25,640 --> 01:30:27,920
Speaker 1: know I'm just average, like twenty two, twenty five, you

1910
01:30:27,960 --> 01:30:29,040
Speaker 1: know we should be good.

1911
01:30:30,880 --> 01:30:34,479
Speaker 4: I said, what you might need to get a fifty?

1912
01:30:34,600 --> 01:30:36,880
Speaker 4: What you're talking about twenty miles?

1913
01:30:37,360 --> 01:30:40,160
Speaker 1: Man? Let's finish this commercial. So it was then and

1914
01:30:40,280 --> 01:30:44,400
Speaker 1: that I knew that like my role one, really it

1915
01:30:44,520 --> 01:30:45,320
Speaker 1: wasn't really honored.

1916
01:30:45,880 --> 01:30:47,880
Speaker 3: So I just imagine what the coach thinking if you

1917
01:30:48,000 --> 01:30:50,240
Speaker 3: thinking like you ain't under this defense ship, bro, come

1918
01:30:50,280 --> 01:30:52,640
Speaker 3: on y'all a And so it was then I had

1919
01:30:52,680 --> 01:30:54,960
Speaker 3: to show him, like you know what I'm saying, like, allright,

1920
01:30:55,200 --> 01:30:57,800
Speaker 3: this what's gonna win us. This is our identity, this

1921
01:30:57,960 --> 01:31:02,519
Speaker 3: what we standing on. We ain't this a non negotiable. Yeah,

1922
01:31:03,200 --> 01:31:06,120
Speaker 3: we ain't doing all that fancy shit. We on defense

1923
01:31:06,160 --> 01:31:08,160
Speaker 3: and defense only and once we hold our hats on that,

1924
01:31:08,240 --> 01:31:10,360
Speaker 3: we're gonna go through our starts from that down the stretch.

1925
01:31:10,479 --> 01:31:13,439
Speaker 2: So your first all defense was the second team. Yeah,

1926
01:31:15,439 --> 01:31:18,320
Speaker 2: I know you you wanted to be first team. You

1927
01:31:18,479 --> 01:31:22,040
Speaker 2: just feel like you deserve. But how was it like

1928
01:31:22,200 --> 01:31:27,160
Speaker 2: knowing your peers voted like that was? Notice, you know

1929
01:31:27,160 --> 01:31:29,760
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, like around the league, because like you

1930
01:31:29,840 --> 01:31:33,000
Speaker 2: just want the top defenders on the Celtics.

1931
01:31:33,240 --> 01:31:34,680
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You go out in the

1932
01:31:34,760 --> 01:31:38,200
Speaker 1: best players, but you're not making them teams. That's because

1933
01:31:38,200 --> 01:31:39,479
Speaker 1: I wasn't playing that many minutes.

1934
01:31:39,479 --> 01:31:44,360
Speaker 2: No true, but still you wanted the top defenders even

1935
01:31:44,400 --> 01:31:47,120
Speaker 2: though you're coming off the bench. But now to see

1936
01:31:47,160 --> 01:31:51,519
Speaker 2: your peers really appreciate you from what you're doing, how.

1937
01:31:51,560 --> 01:31:51,920
Speaker 4: Was that for?

1938
01:31:52,600 --> 01:31:54,640
Speaker 1: It was flattering? I ain't gonna lie like it's like

1939
01:31:55,320 --> 01:31:57,200
Speaker 1: said everything like a puzzle man, you always want to

1940
01:31:57,200 --> 01:31:58,960
Speaker 1: be a piece to that puzzle, you know what I'm saying.

1941
01:31:59,000 --> 01:32:01,040
Speaker 1: So whenever you be able to be a piece to

1942
01:32:01,080 --> 01:32:03,400
Speaker 1: a puzzle man, you feel like you apart. And once

1943
01:32:03,439 --> 01:32:06,200
Speaker 1: you can feel apart, man, magic happened from that, you

1944
01:32:06,240 --> 01:32:08,240
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Everybody got a player.

1945
01:32:08,240 --> 01:32:10,800
Speaker 3: A role, Like you say, at what point though, like

1946
01:32:11,040 --> 01:32:13,920
Speaker 3: after you know, you get second team, you get first team,

1947
01:32:13,920 --> 01:32:17,880
Speaker 3: you get first team, it's a point in there where

1948
01:32:18,520 --> 01:32:24,040
Speaker 3: it's a shift where that offensive player now knows that

1949
01:32:24,240 --> 01:32:27,800
Speaker 3: you are a threat defensively, Like when did you see,

1950
01:32:28,479 --> 01:32:31,679
Speaker 3: let's be real, we really here, Like certain motherfuckers don't

1951
01:32:31,720 --> 01:32:35,599
Speaker 3: play the same They be scared, Like at what point

1952
01:32:35,680 --> 01:32:40,720
Speaker 3: did you see people whether it was being fearful of

1953
01:32:40,840 --> 01:32:42,120
Speaker 3: your defense.

1954
01:32:42,000 --> 01:32:45,000
Speaker 1: Whether it was just straight up being respect for your defense.

1955
01:32:45,360 --> 01:32:47,639
Speaker 3: And some people like you know, a Cobe type motherfucker,

1956
01:32:47,720 --> 01:32:49,240
Speaker 3: like he might don't give a fuck about it, he

1957
01:32:49,360 --> 01:32:51,600
Speaker 3: like giving right, So like when did you start to

1958
01:32:51,640 --> 01:32:55,360
Speaker 3: see because you evoke all those emotions when they know

1959
01:32:55,520 --> 01:32:56,800
Speaker 3: that you can do something well.

1960
01:32:56,960 --> 01:32:59,920
Speaker 1: So like, when did you start to see some people

1961
01:33:00,120 --> 01:33:01,920
Speaker 1: talking about like trying make Oh no, I'm gonna try

1962
01:33:01,920 --> 01:33:03,760
Speaker 1: and butst your ad because you're supposed to be this

1963
01:33:03,840 --> 01:33:06,040
Speaker 1: and that. When did you see some people shot away

1964
01:33:06,080 --> 01:33:07,040
Speaker 1: from being them normal?

1965
01:33:07,120 --> 01:33:07,439
Speaker 5: And then.

1966
01:33:08,920 --> 01:33:11,760
Speaker 1: The only mother fuer that I know that didn't give

1967
01:33:11,800 --> 01:33:15,920
Speaker 1: a fuck about that was Russell Westbrook. Hey, that's that's

1968
01:33:15,960 --> 01:33:18,920
Speaker 1: bout right for man. Russell Westbook did give up about.

1969
01:33:21,160 --> 01:33:21,400
Speaker 4: Just say.

1970
01:33:21,640 --> 01:33:23,840
Speaker 3: He used to be like, yeah, motherfucker, come over here

1971
01:33:23,880 --> 01:33:27,040
Speaker 3: and stick me, Come over here and stick me like

1972
01:33:27,160 --> 01:33:28,720
Speaker 3: he used to be that type of what I used

1973
01:33:28,720 --> 01:33:32,840
Speaker 3: to be, Like what, Yeah, he would And he used

1974
01:33:32,880 --> 01:33:35,200
Speaker 3: to get mad having to pass the ball to KD

1975
01:33:35,840 --> 01:33:38,040
Speaker 3: while I'm playing the pass and like I'm then I'm talking,

1976
01:33:38,080 --> 01:33:39,880
Speaker 3: I ain't that ship shake. You see what I'm saying,

1977
01:33:39,960 --> 01:33:41,800
Speaker 3: I'm playing the pass, I ain't know the players all that.

1978
01:33:42,720 --> 01:33:43,320
Speaker 1: He'd be mad.

1979
01:33:43,360 --> 01:33:44,000
Speaker 4: He turned over.

1980
01:33:44,640 --> 01:33:50,080
Speaker 1: He'll come back here, motherfucker stick me. He's the only

1981
01:33:50,160 --> 01:33:53,160
Speaker 1: one that went other and that ship. But it was

1982
01:33:53,360 --> 01:33:56,080
Speaker 1: guys that you know you would see like you'd be like,

1983
01:33:56,080 --> 01:33:57,839
Speaker 1: all right, come on. I don't got time be wrestling

1984
01:33:57,880 --> 01:33:58,280
Speaker 1: with this one.

1985
01:33:58,840 --> 01:34:01,679
Speaker 4: Y'all get off, they'll come off and the play design

1986
01:34:01,800 --> 01:34:02,120
Speaker 4: for them.

1987
01:34:02,200 --> 01:34:04,559
Speaker 3: Hey, people will not believe that, bro. Some of your

1988
01:34:04,640 --> 01:34:07,760
Speaker 3: favorite players was like they show up on certain nights.

1989
01:34:07,880 --> 01:34:09,679
Speaker 4: I ain't fucking with it to night. I ain't.

1990
01:34:09,800 --> 01:34:13,320
Speaker 1: I ain't seen that for show because they don't want to.

1991
01:34:13,360 --> 01:34:16,200
Speaker 1: They want to fuck up the eight percentages. They want too, Coulo,

1992
01:34:16,720 --> 01:34:18,080
Speaker 1: and they waiting on your ass to get back on

1993
01:34:18,160 --> 01:34:19,439
Speaker 1: the bench so they could go crazy.

1994
01:34:19,520 --> 01:34:21,280
Speaker 3: No, no, this is but like I say, this is

1995
01:34:21,360 --> 01:34:25,360
Speaker 3: the thing that I always respected about Cold. He met

1996
01:34:25,479 --> 01:34:28,519
Speaker 3: that ship. He was ready for that ship. Oh that's

1997
01:34:28,600 --> 01:34:31,120
Speaker 3: what you want, bitch, I'm on that time, and that's

1998
01:34:31,160 --> 01:34:34,280
Speaker 3: got me fucked up. I no, like I'm telling you,

1999
01:34:34,760 --> 01:34:38,000
Speaker 3: I promise you. It was players, and they that you

2000
01:34:38,080 --> 01:34:40,680
Speaker 3: would come out there and get on your raw ro

2001
01:34:40,880 --> 01:34:44,000
Speaker 3: and like they'll be like not today, not today, not him,

2002
01:34:44,040 --> 01:34:46,720
Speaker 3: not today. He was too he knew, bitch, you can't

2003
01:34:46,800 --> 01:34:49,400
Speaker 3: beat me up. They ain't gonna allow it. And if

2004
01:34:49,400 --> 01:34:51,560
Speaker 3: you try and fuck with me, I'll put sixty on you.

2005
01:34:52,120 --> 01:34:54,320
Speaker 3: And that's what I'm gonna try and put fifty six

2006
01:34:54,600 --> 01:34:57,680
Speaker 3: legitimate fifty or six shit with me.

2007
01:34:58,040 --> 01:34:59,519
Speaker 4: Okay, let's do that's.

2008
01:34:59,360 --> 01:35:00,240
Speaker 1: The embarrassing part.

2009
01:35:00,280 --> 01:35:00,360
Speaker 3: Bro.

2010
01:35:00,439 --> 01:35:01,920
Speaker 1: I don't I don't want to be that guy. But

2011
01:35:01,960 --> 01:35:04,639
Speaker 1: it's nowadays. When you look at today's game, Bro, it's

2012
01:35:04,760 --> 01:35:09,439
Speaker 1: nowadays guys is cool like tripping, Yeah, fifty it is cool.

2013
01:35:10,000 --> 01:35:13,120
Speaker 1: Nah Hey he gets camera. Man, Hey, come on, let's

2014
01:35:13,160 --> 01:35:17,400
Speaker 1: take these pictures. Thirty's like, what.

2015
01:35:17,479 --> 01:35:18,080
Speaker 4: The fuck like?

2016
01:35:18,520 --> 01:35:19,479
Speaker 1: You just got fifty?

2017
01:35:19,520 --> 01:35:19,800
Speaker 4: Put on?

2018
01:35:19,880 --> 01:35:21,719
Speaker 1: You want to go out there and vote for the camera?

2019
01:35:22,400 --> 01:35:24,080
Speaker 4: Fucking swap jersey do all that?

2020
01:35:24,120 --> 01:35:26,080
Speaker 1: Goofy asks man. I'm straight on you man, you just

2021
01:35:26,160 --> 01:35:29,120
Speaker 1: had fifty. I'm going to the locker room. So start

2022
01:35:29,200 --> 01:35:31,080
Speaker 1: bench trade defense.

2023
01:35:31,240 --> 01:35:36,920
Speaker 2: You know, the hardest person to defend start to the

2024
01:35:37,040 --> 01:35:41,599
Speaker 2: easiest person to defend get traded. So start bench trade. Okay,

2025
01:35:44,040 --> 01:35:53,400
Speaker 2: lebron kd this is Cormella and like bird man, damn

2026
01:35:54,680 --> 01:35:55,519
Speaker 2: d man.

2027
01:35:55,640 --> 01:35:58,920
Speaker 1: He said, went on he okay, look like cool. So

2028
01:35:59,080 --> 01:36:01,719
Speaker 1: look what I about Brown. We're talking about Bron today

2029
01:36:01,800 --> 01:36:04,400
Speaker 1: Causebron done had the same attributes he got today. Back

2030
01:36:04,800 --> 01:36:08,559
Speaker 1: we're saying, how you judge who's the hard I played

2031
01:36:08,560 --> 01:36:11,920
Speaker 1: against back in the day. Ain't gonna laugh our scout

2032
01:36:11,960 --> 01:36:16,599
Speaker 1: report on Bron go under. Yeah, of course our Scout

2033
01:36:16,640 --> 01:36:17,680
Speaker 1: report on Bron.

2034
01:36:17,520 --> 01:36:23,040
Speaker 4: Was we live with the Jay, Yeah, you feel me. Mellow,

2035
01:36:23,479 --> 01:36:25,640
Speaker 4: we couldn't do that, KD. We couldn't do that.

2036
01:36:25,960 --> 01:36:30,120
Speaker 2: So hardest the guard I had to, I still had

2037
01:36:30,160 --> 01:36:34,360
Speaker 2: to go with Kadi. Okay, well, Mellow right behind that

2038
01:36:34,760 --> 01:36:40,040
Speaker 2: and the bench bench Mellow, you trade. But that sound

2039
01:36:40,479 --> 01:36:41,559
Speaker 2: ugly with forty.

2040
01:36:41,400 --> 01:36:45,160
Speaker 1: One thousand points, Bro, I'll just say that soundly, you

2041
01:36:45,280 --> 01:36:48,960
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. That sound ugly though. It sounded

2042
01:36:49,040 --> 01:36:51,960
Speaker 1: ugly because it's like when I played him, he didn't

2043
01:36:52,080 --> 01:36:54,800
Speaker 1: have some attributes. That's all I'm saying to me, and

2044
01:36:55,080 --> 01:36:59,320
Speaker 1: I don't want to do you tell about the period

2045
01:36:59,360 --> 01:36:59,760
Speaker 1: you play he.

2046
01:37:01,280 --> 01:37:04,000
Speaker 4: He's a motherfucker that didn't played for twenty one twenty.

2047
01:37:03,760 --> 01:37:04,479
Speaker 1: Two years, so.

2048
01:37:06,000 --> 01:37:11,080
Speaker 3: That there's a player he wasn't who he is now

2049
01:37:11,200 --> 01:37:13,920
Speaker 3: when you played against him exactly. So you speaking on

2050
01:37:14,040 --> 01:37:16,600
Speaker 3: your time period against him, you just spoke on the

2051
01:37:17,240 --> 01:37:17,719
Speaker 3: I never.

2052
01:37:17,680 --> 01:37:19,880
Speaker 1: Had looked like this. I never had a moment where

2053
01:37:20,840 --> 01:37:23,519
Speaker 1: Lebron kept running up on me like watch out, y'all,

2054
01:37:23,560 --> 01:37:25,880
Speaker 1: watch out, I'm gonna do this.

2055
01:37:27,000 --> 01:37:29,880
Speaker 3: I had that moment with Cole, I've had that moment

2056
01:37:29,960 --> 01:37:32,479
Speaker 3: with Mellow. I've had that moment with Durant.

2057
01:37:33,520 --> 01:37:36,040
Speaker 1: I've always had a part well when I played Bron,

2058
01:37:36,160 --> 01:37:38,760
Speaker 1: he pick and choose when he's gonna do his That's

2059
01:37:38,840 --> 01:37:39,120
Speaker 1: part of.

2060
01:37:39,280 --> 01:37:41,480
Speaker 3: I mean, I think that's what part of the phenomenon

2061
01:37:41,680 --> 01:37:45,080
Speaker 3: that is Lebron. And you know, the fact that he's

2062
01:37:45,200 --> 01:37:48,040
Speaker 3: the all time scoring lead, I think that's the debunker

2063
01:37:48,160 --> 01:37:52,360
Speaker 3: because nobody sees him like that. It's this ultimate like bitch,

2064
01:37:52,400 --> 01:37:53,840
Speaker 3: I'm about to get the ball and just scoring.

2065
01:37:53,960 --> 01:37:54,760
Speaker 1: He's never been that.

2066
01:37:55,439 --> 01:37:59,800
Speaker 3: The fact of his twenty plus years, his consistency with

2067
01:38:00,080 --> 01:38:00,959
Speaker 3: health and being.

2068
01:38:00,800 --> 01:38:04,760
Speaker 4: Available, and it happen to be like I'm gonna just

2069
01:38:04,880 --> 01:38:05,639
Speaker 4: take all the shots.

2070
01:38:06,479 --> 01:38:09,400
Speaker 3: Want to say it, you know what I'm saying, Like

2071
01:38:09,520 --> 01:38:11,479
Speaker 3: all of those things make it what it is, like

2072
01:38:11,520 --> 01:38:14,479
Speaker 3: when you say forty k Like he's got that because

2073
01:38:14,520 --> 01:38:16,599
Speaker 3: if you think about it, Carmelo was out the league

2074
01:38:16,600 --> 01:38:18,920
Speaker 3: for like two or three years, KD then missed the

2075
01:38:18,960 --> 01:38:21,519
Speaker 3: whole year with achilles injury and all of these different things,

2076
01:38:21,560 --> 01:38:23,720
Speaker 3: and then Lebron still older than him, so like that's

2077
01:38:23,760 --> 01:38:26,479
Speaker 3: why he's been able to accumulate. And he's always kind

2078
01:38:26,479 --> 01:38:27,519
Speaker 3: of been passed first.

2079
01:38:27,720 --> 01:38:31,519
Speaker 4: And y'all know both of y'all, both of y'all been

2080
01:38:31,520 --> 01:38:33,240
Speaker 4: in the league where you a hold of the fucker?

2081
01:38:34,040 --> 01:38:37,400
Speaker 1: Yeah bothver y'all have been in the league where you good? Yeah?

2082
01:38:37,520 --> 01:38:40,960
Speaker 1: Hell boy over y'all ain't never been in the league.

2083
01:38:41,040 --> 01:38:42,479
Speaker 1: Well you got a stick a motherfucker like this.

2084
01:38:42,640 --> 01:38:43,960
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. We first came.

2085
01:38:44,160 --> 01:38:47,760
Speaker 1: Now you six nine or sixteen? What have all you

2086
01:38:47,880 --> 01:38:49,200
Speaker 1: to sixty? What have a fucking what?

2087
01:38:49,320 --> 01:38:49,559
Speaker 4: You win?

2088
01:38:49,920 --> 01:38:52,200
Speaker 3: And you going that motherfucker fast? And I gotta I

2089
01:38:52,240 --> 01:38:54,680
Speaker 3: gotta slap my feet on you. With your handles that

2090
01:38:54,800 --> 01:38:57,360
Speaker 3: good and your strength, and yo, bro, y're gonna lose

2091
01:38:57,400 --> 01:39:00,479
Speaker 3: every time. You gonna get twenty five hundred points every season.

2092
01:39:01,000 --> 01:39:03,439
Speaker 2: You had a lot of teammates over your career, a

2093
01:39:03,520 --> 01:39:06,840
Speaker 2: lot of guys you played with. Out of all the

2094
01:39:06,920 --> 01:39:10,000
Speaker 2: teammates that you played with, if you had to pick

2095
01:39:10,160 --> 01:39:13,599
Speaker 2: four other teammates plus you to make an ultimate five

2096
01:39:15,240 --> 01:39:18,920
Speaker 2: to go against anybody, ultified, everybody in their prime, the

2097
01:39:19,000 --> 01:39:21,680
Speaker 2: two who would beat them other. Four, let me come

2098
01:39:21,720 --> 01:39:25,160
Speaker 2: off the bench, bro, you got you, I gotta start.

2099
01:39:25,200 --> 01:39:26,840
Speaker 1: You got only four?

2100
01:39:27,479 --> 01:39:27,760
Speaker 4: All right?

2101
01:39:28,080 --> 01:39:28,680
Speaker 1: Look did it?

2102
01:39:28,760 --> 01:39:29,439
Speaker 4: Alright? We're gonna go.

2103
01:39:30,200 --> 01:39:32,800
Speaker 1: We're going kg easy.

2104
01:39:34,640 --> 01:39:38,240
Speaker 4: Z bo. Hold on, that's five.

2105
01:39:38,400 --> 01:39:39,800
Speaker 1: Hold on, that's what.

2106
01:39:41,479 --> 01:39:42,280
Speaker 4: The bench? All right?

2107
01:39:42,640 --> 01:39:43,000
Speaker 1: We're going.

2108
01:39:43,520 --> 01:39:44,280
Speaker 4: We're going z Bo.

2109
01:39:44,960 --> 01:39:47,760
Speaker 1: That's five four, We're going.

2110
01:39:49,840 --> 01:39:56,479
Speaker 3: Damn bro oh man, we gotta to go Rajo right no,

2111
01:39:59,200 --> 01:40:01,040
Speaker 3: and Paul years bro, So.

2112
01:40:01,200 --> 01:40:04,559
Speaker 1: I know you Paul here is z BO and KG.

2113
01:40:05,240 --> 01:40:06,640
Speaker 4: I like it. I like it.

2114
01:40:07,000 --> 01:40:10,320
Speaker 1: I like it. But see, look I polled to put listen.

2115
01:40:10,439 --> 01:40:13,040
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. I wanted to. I want to

2116
01:40:13,080 --> 01:40:17,160
Speaker 1: play Ticket at the three and put Mark at the five,

2117
01:40:17,400 --> 01:40:20,320
Speaker 1: play him with z Bo z Bo. Put Paul at

2118
01:40:20,320 --> 01:40:24,080
Speaker 1: the two, Paul at the two, and look, you know,

2119
01:40:24,360 --> 01:40:27,679
Speaker 1: night in and night out. You know, we gotta roll round.

2120
01:40:27,840 --> 01:40:30,800
Speaker 2: He got he got to go ships ride though. This

2121
01:40:30,880 --> 01:40:32,960
Speaker 2: ain't this ain't a team thing. It's just your five

2122
01:40:33,000 --> 01:40:34,560
Speaker 2: getting on the court. Who you're finna running with.

2123
01:40:34,800 --> 01:40:36,320
Speaker 4: That's fact. That's how this.

2124
01:40:36,600 --> 01:40:38,200
Speaker 3: Is what I want to know, you know, shot town

2125
01:40:38,280 --> 01:40:40,680
Speaker 3: player like itself. Man, I'm ready for it.

2126
01:40:40,840 --> 01:40:42,040
Speaker 1: Get what what what?

2127
01:40:42,320 --> 01:40:42,880
Speaker 4: What like?

2128
01:40:43,160 --> 01:40:45,080
Speaker 3: You know, I don't want to hear about buying no

2129
01:40:45,280 --> 01:40:47,360
Speaker 3: crib for mom, dudes and nothing like that.

2130
01:40:47,479 --> 01:40:49,559
Speaker 4: I don't hear. We all know that happened. We all

2131
01:40:49,680 --> 01:40:50,200
Speaker 4: had to do that.

2132
01:40:50,439 --> 01:40:51,200
Speaker 1: Take care of the fan.

2133
01:40:51,600 --> 01:40:53,880
Speaker 4: I won't know what t A did for young t

2134
01:40:54,120 --> 01:40:56,360
Speaker 4: A when you spent something like right now you've grown.

2135
01:40:56,400 --> 01:40:58,719
Speaker 3: You can look at like tripping, but like, god damn,

2136
01:40:58,760 --> 01:41:00,639
Speaker 3: I don't care if it was a wide y'alln' cares

2137
01:41:00,680 --> 01:41:03,000
Speaker 3: it was a wibbon care if it was a fellows

2138
01:41:03,040 --> 01:41:05,320
Speaker 3: trip or something like what did TA do the first

2139
01:41:05,439 --> 01:41:08,320
Speaker 3: time you win and you did something that you consider

2140
01:41:08,439 --> 01:41:10,599
Speaker 3: like y'all did that with the money?

2141
01:41:10,760 --> 01:41:13,320
Speaker 1: Like, I don't care what you did that you felt like,

2142
01:41:13,560 --> 01:41:14,559
Speaker 1: I ain't never did.

2143
01:41:14,520 --> 01:41:15,200
Speaker 4: Nothing this big.

2144
01:41:15,400 --> 01:41:18,280
Speaker 3: This feels good right here. I just treated myself one time.

2145
01:41:20,080 --> 01:41:23,479
Speaker 3: We all had our moments. Now, man, listen, all right, cool,

2146
01:41:24,439 --> 01:41:30,080
Speaker 3: So when I won a championship, Okay, Rondo just gave

2147
01:41:30,200 --> 01:41:31,000
Speaker 3: us a championship.

2148
01:41:31,120 --> 01:41:32,600
Speaker 1: So I want to hear your championship.

2149
01:41:32,680 --> 01:41:32,840
Speaker 3: Man.

2150
01:41:33,760 --> 01:41:38,840
Speaker 1: These foods, said man, were finna go Bentley craze a

2151
01:41:39,000 --> 01:41:39,960
Speaker 1: team man I got.

2152
01:41:40,040 --> 01:41:42,240
Speaker 3: I think I got like three hundred and eighty grand

2153
01:41:42,680 --> 01:41:44,519
Speaker 3: on the on the playoff money on the playoff.

2154
01:41:44,720 --> 01:41:48,000
Speaker 1: When I wont championship, the gave me three hundred eighty grand. Man.

2155
01:41:48,040 --> 01:41:51,160
Speaker 1: That Bentley had to been three hundred and thirty grand

2156
01:41:51,400 --> 01:41:54,759
Speaker 1: cash out. I gave him three hundred thirty grand cashut

2157
01:41:54,800 --> 01:42:01,320
Speaker 1: off the flow put some Volano's on that thing, man, Listen.

2158
01:42:01,120 --> 01:42:04,599
Speaker 3: That's the same story Rondo just gave. Rondo said, look

2159
01:42:05,040 --> 01:42:07,280
Speaker 3: me and Perk on our rookie deals. He said, we

2160
01:42:07,439 --> 01:42:09,160
Speaker 3: won that thing, he said, we didn't even get our

2161
01:42:09,240 --> 01:42:10,759
Speaker 3: money yet we knew it was coming.

2162
01:42:10,840 --> 01:42:13,240
Speaker 1: We went and walked straight to the to the roads,

2163
01:42:13,280 --> 01:42:15,960
Speaker 1: and see they did that. I wait till my bad came.

2164
01:42:17,320 --> 01:42:24,519
Speaker 4: I walking up there first, get that, man, I ain't

2165
01:42:24,520 --> 01:42:27,479
Speaker 4: gonna And then it was crazy because soon as I

2166
01:42:27,560 --> 01:42:29,040
Speaker 4: got to Bentley, it was like, I.

2167
01:42:30,920 --> 01:42:34,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to the store, go here, and go

2168
01:42:34,200 --> 01:42:38,400
Speaker 1: ahead there. After that, like, well, Madrid this, I gotta

2169
01:42:38,439 --> 01:42:40,120
Speaker 1: go back and play in Boston. You can't ride this

2170
01:42:40,240 --> 01:42:43,760
Speaker 1: in the snow. And boss, Bro, what the hell I'm

2171
01:42:43,760 --> 01:42:46,160
Speaker 1: gonna do with the Bentley and Boston and all the snow.

2172
01:42:46,880 --> 01:42:49,880
Speaker 1: You remember when I brought my cars out to Boston. Yeah,

2173
01:42:50,000 --> 01:42:52,400
Speaker 1: you had the roads and all that betraying horn.

2174
01:42:53,400 --> 01:42:57,760
Speaker 3: Oh that was all deep man, looking forward to doing that.

2175
01:42:57,880 --> 01:43:00,320
Speaker 3: I'm gonna do that one day. Funk out there, Listen,

2176
01:43:00,520 --> 01:43:03,360
Speaker 3: scared the ship out of me coming out. Listen got

2177
01:43:03,360 --> 01:43:07,080
Speaker 3: out of his car. No, we were leaving practice. So

2178
01:43:07,200 --> 01:43:10,439
Speaker 3: we leaving practice. Brom come pulling out in the ring.

2179
01:43:11,200 --> 01:43:11,759
Speaker 4: I'm leaving.

2180
01:43:12,760 --> 01:43:14,680
Speaker 3: Then the thing one coming up. You know they had

2181
01:43:14,720 --> 01:43:16,519
Speaker 3: they had the little you know you got the gate

2182
01:43:16,680 --> 01:43:21,120
Speaker 3: the gate. That man said, b I thought the mother

2183
01:43:21,720 --> 01:43:26,200
Speaker 3: is something wrong? I said, what the father man? That

2184
01:43:26,320 --> 01:43:29,520
Speaker 3: man got up and look train hork.

2185
01:43:29,320 --> 01:43:32,040
Speaker 4: It blew me brock to practice.

2186
01:43:32,040 --> 01:43:34,000
Speaker 3: I say, brother, don't you ever get behind me and

2187
01:43:34,080 --> 01:43:36,760
Speaker 3: blow that motherfucker. That ship should be illegal. Bro you

2188
01:43:36,840 --> 01:43:39,120
Speaker 3: think that was some sick ship. Shot used to ride

2189
01:43:39,160 --> 01:43:42,479
Speaker 3: around with police lights. He'd ride around with limo tent

2190
01:43:42,640 --> 01:43:43,720
Speaker 3: on all of all of.

2191
01:43:44,520 --> 01:43:47,679
Speaker 1: Before he pulled me over one time out the mud.

2192
01:43:48,120 --> 01:43:52,280
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, coming man out the mud.

2193
01:43:52,880 --> 01:43:55,680
Speaker 3: Y'all, y'all the biggest inspirations all that brother, let y'all know.

2194
01:43:56,320 --> 01:43:59,360
Speaker 3: Y'all know, y'all is the biggest inspiration of this podcast.

2195
01:43:59,400 --> 01:44:01,120
Speaker 3: Ship that ship don't go and notice if it went

2196
01:44:01,240 --> 01:44:03,639
Speaker 3: for y'all. Man, we see you in Zebo.

2197
01:44:03,800 --> 01:44:06,200
Speaker 2: We finally got a chance to really see y'all talk

2198
01:44:06,320 --> 01:44:11,000
Speaker 2: and show your personality, show who you are, and just

2199
01:44:12,240 --> 01:44:16,439
Speaker 2: watching it from first episode to now, how your peers

2200
01:44:16,560 --> 01:44:17,439
Speaker 2: embracing y'all.

2201
01:44:17,560 --> 01:44:18,120
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

2202
01:44:18,160 --> 01:44:19,760
Speaker 2: That was one of the things I was telling z Bo,

2203
01:44:19,960 --> 01:44:22,519
Speaker 2: like man, folks want to hear you folks want to

2204
01:44:22,560 --> 01:44:25,320
Speaker 2: see y'all. You know what I'm saying, y'all some of folks'

2205
01:44:25,479 --> 01:44:28,040
Speaker 2: favorite players. For both of y'all to hook up and

2206
01:44:28,120 --> 01:44:33,200
Speaker 2: be together. Your peers are embracing you. Anytime that y'all say,

2207
01:44:33,320 --> 01:44:36,040
Speaker 2: man a, we want y'all to be on the show,

2208
01:44:36,760 --> 01:44:39,000
Speaker 2: the folks come running. Man, So how is it to

2209
01:44:39,160 --> 01:44:42,600
Speaker 2: be in this space and you know, just navigate through it?

2210
01:44:42,680 --> 01:44:44,840
Speaker 2: I know this like it's y'all first year or so

2211
01:44:45,120 --> 01:44:47,360
Speaker 2: doing it, But how is it to just you know,

2212
01:44:47,479 --> 01:44:50,400
Speaker 2: have your own podcast, do it with your partner, your

2213
01:44:50,439 --> 01:44:53,240
Speaker 2: grind partner that you've been grinding with for sure, and

2214
01:44:53,920 --> 01:44:56,240
Speaker 2: for y'all to be embraced by your peers and guys

2215
01:44:56,320 --> 01:44:58,040
Speaker 2: want to get on there and just talk to y'all

2216
01:44:58,160 --> 01:45:01,400
Speaker 2: and just you know, have a meeting of the minds,

2217
01:45:01,520 --> 01:45:02,120
Speaker 2: which y'all.

2218
01:45:02,240 --> 01:45:04,439
Speaker 1: It's been great. And honestly, man, I ain't gonna lie. Man,

2219
01:45:04,680 --> 01:45:07,920
Speaker 1: just hearing everybody's story it excites me, you feel I'm saying,

2220
01:45:08,000 --> 01:45:10,720
Speaker 1: because like, I know how it came up, and I

2221
01:45:10,880 --> 01:45:12,639
Speaker 1: just want to hear how a lot of other people

2222
01:45:12,760 --> 01:45:16,080
Speaker 1: came up and just to see that. Man, everybody's journey's

2223
01:45:16,120 --> 01:45:18,519
Speaker 1: been different, you know, what I'm saying. And certain guys

2224
01:45:18,560 --> 01:45:23,160
Speaker 1: who you think, like Vince Dealt the Silver Spoon, they

2225
01:45:23,240 --> 01:45:25,840
Speaker 1: got obstacles that they went through, and I'm talking about

2226
01:45:26,200 --> 01:45:28,400
Speaker 1: certain battles that they had to go through. And so

2227
01:45:29,400 --> 01:45:32,320
Speaker 1: for me to see everybody coming, you know, and show love. Man,

2228
01:45:32,479 --> 01:45:35,800
Speaker 1: it's just been a big brotherhood. Man, from the fraternity

2229
01:45:35,880 --> 01:45:39,120
Speaker 1: that we all started in and ended in. It's like, man, Joe,

2230
01:45:39,160 --> 01:45:42,439
Speaker 1: we still family, like no matter how the battles win,

2231
01:45:42,720 --> 01:45:45,439
Speaker 1: no matter how we competed against each other. Like at

2232
01:45:45,439 --> 01:45:47,600
Speaker 1: the end of the day, Bro, we all had the

2233
01:45:47,720 --> 01:45:49,479
Speaker 1: journey to get here. And guess what.

2234
01:45:49,840 --> 01:45:51,840
Speaker 4: Guess what they tell us when we first get to leave. Bro,

2235
01:45:53,200 --> 01:45:56,400
Speaker 4: This ain't a right, boy. This is a privilege.

2236
01:45:57,200 --> 01:46:01,040
Speaker 3: Everybody out of the what now eight thousand people that

2237
01:46:01,120 --> 01:46:03,639
Speaker 3: have ever played in this league can't get to talk

2238
01:46:03,760 --> 01:46:05,560
Speaker 3: how we talk. So for you guys to have a

2239
01:46:05,640 --> 01:46:08,240
Speaker 3: platform and tell these stories and you know how these

2240
01:46:08,439 --> 01:46:11,040
Speaker 3: experiences and for us to come together and have a

2241
01:46:11,200 --> 01:46:13,800
Speaker 3: you know, a kumba, y'all, whatever you want to call it.

2242
01:46:13,880 --> 01:46:15,160
Speaker 4: Bro, I like it.

2243
01:46:15,280 --> 01:46:18,519
Speaker 1: I honor it because it's a fast majority of the

2244
01:46:18,560 --> 01:46:22,000
Speaker 1: world that don't even understand the world. We've been in

2245
01:46:22,200 --> 01:46:25,160
Speaker 1: the atmospheres that we walk in and what it takes,

2246
01:46:25,240 --> 01:46:28,920
Speaker 1: even you know, for me to be around Q Rich.

2247
01:46:29,000 --> 01:46:32,320
Speaker 1: I know for sure I gotta not only make it

2248
01:46:32,479 --> 01:46:35,800
Speaker 1: competitive if we playing, but I also want to pick

2249
01:46:35,920 --> 01:46:38,479
Speaker 1: up something from Q Rich. I'm also looking for his

2250
01:46:39,200 --> 01:46:41,840
Speaker 1: it's some inspiration where he gonna tell me something, Well,

2251
01:46:41,880 --> 01:46:44,120
Speaker 1: he gonna give me some game if it's coming in

2252
01:46:44,280 --> 01:46:46,840
Speaker 1: podcasts where I'm honoring it. You feel what I'm saying.

2253
01:46:46,880 --> 01:46:47,760
Speaker 1: So I love it, man.

2254
01:46:47,800 --> 01:46:50,160
Speaker 4: I love this space, man, and I'm glad that I'm

2255
01:46:50,200 --> 01:46:51,280
Speaker 4: around y'all even now.

2256
01:46:51,400 --> 01:46:53,519
Speaker 2: Bro, this is a true Let me ask you this

2257
01:46:53,800 --> 01:46:56,640
Speaker 2: because Q had to get me out of this and

2258
01:46:57,240 --> 01:47:00,960
Speaker 2: y'all seeing you and Zebo is like the exact same thing,

2259
01:47:01,040 --> 01:47:03,759
Speaker 2: the same thing I was trying to say playing a Zbo.

2260
01:47:05,200 --> 01:47:08,080
Speaker 2: We don't do cameras and microphone never, it's a cold

2261
01:47:08,560 --> 01:47:09,599
Speaker 2: we kind of stayed away from.

2262
01:47:11,439 --> 01:47:14,280
Speaker 1: We don't do cameras and microphone. How was it for

2263
01:47:14,360 --> 01:47:15,240
Speaker 1: you to get past?

2264
01:47:15,439 --> 01:47:18,840
Speaker 2: Like, man, you gotta do something different to kind of

2265
01:47:19,160 --> 01:47:22,080
Speaker 2: move forward, you know, to start doing the cameras and

2266
01:47:22,120 --> 01:47:24,120
Speaker 2: microphone and not being so afraid of them that you

2267
01:47:24,240 --> 01:47:28,000
Speaker 2: might say something wrong, or you you might say something

2268
01:47:28,040 --> 01:47:30,160
Speaker 2: that might disrespect somebody or you know.

2269
01:47:30,280 --> 01:47:33,360
Speaker 1: Say something the biggest like like like we're still under

2270
01:47:33,360 --> 01:47:35,200
Speaker 1: the microscope, you know what I'm saying. And so I

2271
01:47:35,320 --> 01:47:37,719
Speaker 1: played like you know what I'm saying because I'm also

2272
01:47:37,880 --> 01:47:41,360
Speaker 1: tied to organization, you know what I'm saying. And it's like, damn,

2273
01:47:41,360 --> 01:47:43,400
Speaker 1: I don't want to offend nobody, but I'm also be me.

2274
01:47:43,520 --> 01:47:44,680
Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying. I'm also be.

2275
01:47:44,840 --> 01:47:48,519
Speaker 4: Real and y'all do a good job of displaying it, like,

2276
01:47:48,720 --> 01:47:49,439
Speaker 4: well you could be you.

2277
01:47:49,520 --> 01:47:50,880
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You can calm down on

2278
01:47:50,960 --> 01:47:53,360
Speaker 1: the N word. You know what I'm saying to show

2279
01:47:53,360 --> 01:47:54,960
Speaker 1: you trying to calm down on it. You know what

2280
01:47:55,000 --> 01:47:58,360
Speaker 1: I'm saying, s version And I take that as y'all

2281
01:47:58,439 --> 01:48:01,880
Speaker 1: my ogs, bro, and each one should always teach one

2282
01:48:01,960 --> 01:48:04,720
Speaker 1: and so as we move forward in these platforms, man,

2283
01:48:04,800 --> 01:48:08,400
Speaker 1: that's that's the game we're given. You feel support each

2284
01:48:08,439 --> 01:48:10,880
Speaker 1: other and like I said, man, we man, we got

2285
01:48:11,360 --> 01:48:14,080
Speaker 1: We're from a fraternity, bro. Everybody can't even.

2286
01:48:14,000 --> 01:48:16,960
Speaker 4: Talk about man, and so moving in this space, bro,

2287
01:48:17,080 --> 01:48:18,400
Speaker 4: I ain't gonna lie him enjoying it.

2288
01:48:18,520 --> 01:48:18,720
Speaker 3: Man.

2289
01:48:19,360 --> 01:48:21,960
Speaker 1: It's also you know, you should get my mojo back.

2290
01:48:21,880 --> 01:48:26,559
Speaker 4: You know, Hey, man, we love out the Mud.

2291
01:48:26,640 --> 01:48:29,120
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying different. They ain't even saying

2292
01:48:29,400 --> 01:48:31,960
Speaker 3: hoop and ship. It ain't about who. Ain't even saying

2293
01:48:33,160 --> 01:48:36,280
Speaker 3: we love you with the Celtics. We love you, Hey,

2294
01:48:36,360 --> 01:48:38,000
Speaker 3: We're fucking with you out out the Mud.

2295
01:48:38,240 --> 01:48:40,360
Speaker 4: That's crazy. And so I'm like, damn, so I mean

2296
01:48:40,600 --> 01:48:42,360
Speaker 4: And then it was crazy because just told me the

2297
01:48:42,400 --> 01:48:44,400
Speaker 4: other day he was like, Bro was out.

2298
01:48:44,479 --> 01:48:45,960
Speaker 1: Bro. He was like, I think he was doing some

2299
01:48:46,040 --> 01:48:49,080
Speaker 1: grocery shopping or something. He was like, Bro, somebody just

2300
01:48:49,200 --> 01:48:51,360
Speaker 1: was like, man, I was going through a hard time.

2301
01:48:51,439 --> 01:48:55,000
Speaker 1: Bro looked at y'all podcast and just to see how

2302
01:48:55,120 --> 01:48:56,880
Speaker 1: y'all made it to wh y'all made it to Bro,

2303
01:48:57,400 --> 01:49:00,400
Speaker 1: he said, gave me motivation to keep going. So I'm like, Yo,

2304
01:49:01,000 --> 01:49:03,120
Speaker 1: we reaching some people, and so as long as we

2305
01:49:03,280 --> 01:49:05,599
Speaker 1: keep reaching some people in just making it fun, make

2306
01:49:05,640 --> 01:49:06,840
Speaker 1: a lot of people want to hear this shit, man,

2307
01:49:06,840 --> 01:49:08,120
Speaker 1: A lot of people. A lot of people want to

2308
01:49:08,120 --> 01:49:10,560
Speaker 1: hear what going to the locker room? Cause everything what

2309
01:49:10,680 --> 01:49:15,720
Speaker 1: they portraying the media, it's another intail, and we got it.

2310
01:49:15,880 --> 01:49:18,519
Speaker 1: We can tell we got it. We got the intail.

2311
01:49:19,600 --> 01:49:21,479
Speaker 1: Check out out the mud man real man.

2312
01:49:21,520 --> 01:49:25,840
Speaker 3: I definitely take pride and feel proud like hearing people

2313
01:49:26,000 --> 01:49:29,080
Speaker 3: like you, z Bo kg just be like you know,

2314
01:49:29,280 --> 01:49:30,880
Speaker 3: watching me and Black Dude.

2315
01:49:30,920 --> 01:49:32,400
Speaker 4: We did because it's something that we didn't know we

2316
01:49:32,520 --> 01:49:33,400
Speaker 4: was doing. We got into it.

2317
01:49:33,479 --> 01:49:35,400
Speaker 3: We didn't know that we was going to inspire nobody

2318
01:49:35,479 --> 01:49:37,240
Speaker 3: to do nothing or let people know they could do

2319
01:49:37,360 --> 01:49:39,880
Speaker 3: it their own way. And it don't got to look

2320
01:49:39,920 --> 01:49:41,840
Speaker 3: a certain way, you know what I'm saying, that people

2321
01:49:41,920 --> 01:49:44,280
Speaker 3: could still rock with it and like for us like

2322
01:49:44,439 --> 01:49:46,880
Speaker 3: I take especially when you talk about z Bo because

2323
01:49:48,320 --> 01:49:51,519
Speaker 3: having z Bra listen, Bro, I'm having z Bo on

2324
01:49:51,680 --> 01:49:56,040
Speaker 3: here for the first time on our show, Me and him, Bro,

2325
01:49:57,560 --> 01:49:59,439
Speaker 3: true to form. This is probably one of the first

2326
01:49:59,479 --> 01:50:02,280
Speaker 3: things he did. You thought z Bo was on bond

2327
01:50:02,439 --> 01:50:04,320
Speaker 3: or something like. Ze Bo was not talking to us.

2328
01:50:04,400 --> 01:50:04,479
Speaker 4: Bro.

2329
01:50:04,640 --> 01:50:06,840
Speaker 3: It was like one of the quickest, shortest interviews. And

2330
01:50:06,880 --> 01:50:09,200
Speaker 3: I'm talking about like z Bo just was the other

2331
01:50:09,280 --> 01:50:11,479
Speaker 3: day on the NBA Hooper visual with me like the

2332
01:50:11,600 --> 01:50:13,639
Speaker 3: little when we do the live games, me and Mall cars,

2333
01:50:13,800 --> 01:50:16,040
Speaker 3: z Bra up there kicking killing in that and it's

2334
01:50:16,240 --> 01:50:20,680
Speaker 3: night and day the conference zone and he's in ye

2335
01:50:22,800 --> 01:50:25,240
Speaker 3: have it own show and be doing Bro. He was

2336
01:50:25,360 --> 01:50:27,680
Speaker 3: up here talking to us one word yeah, you know

2337
01:50:27,800 --> 01:50:33,000
Speaker 3: ze Bo sweating once you think about me and its

2338
01:50:33,080 --> 01:50:35,080
Speaker 3: like I'm like, hold on, bro, Like we did this

2339
01:50:35,120 --> 01:50:37,360
Speaker 3: ship in l A. I'm like, bro, when we got through,

2340
01:50:37,439 --> 01:50:40,680
Speaker 3: I say, I say, bro, ain't he ain't want to talk?

2341
01:50:40,800 --> 01:50:44,000
Speaker 3: No cameras and like to see him now y'all got

2342
01:50:44,080 --> 01:50:47,719
Speaker 3: your own show on platform and he's asking people the questions,

2343
01:50:47,760 --> 01:50:50,800
Speaker 3: he's sharing all types of different ship with just his

2344
01:50:50,960 --> 01:50:54,280
Speaker 3: conference on. Like it's crazy to see and like I'm

2345
01:50:54,320 --> 01:50:56,200
Speaker 3: telling you, like if you you can go look it up,

2346
01:50:56,240 --> 01:50:58,200
Speaker 3: it's it's in our life. Bro. You go look at

2347
01:50:58,240 --> 01:51:00,439
Speaker 3: the z BO so you canna be like, man, what

2348
01:51:00,840 --> 01:51:02,160
Speaker 3: was on? Like you know what I'm saying, Like he

2349
01:51:02,720 --> 01:51:05,400
Speaker 3: he wasn't there yet, And it just goes to show

2350
01:51:05,439 --> 01:51:07,320
Speaker 3: you everybody get to that certain point because I mean,

2351
01:51:07,400 --> 01:51:08,960
Speaker 3: I know, the grow for me and him. When we

2352
01:51:09,080 --> 01:51:12,680
Speaker 3: first got up here. He wouldn't do certain ship did

2353
01:51:12,720 --> 01:51:12,920
Speaker 3: he do?

2354
01:51:13,120 --> 01:51:13,240
Speaker 4: Now?

2355
01:51:13,400 --> 01:51:15,720
Speaker 3: I wasn't even comfortable from the beginning. But you you know,

2356
01:51:16,000 --> 01:51:18,920
Speaker 3: like everything a week, man, we creature a habit. Like

2357
01:51:19,000 --> 01:51:21,960
Speaker 3: once we get reps, reps reps, that shit become nothing else,

2358
01:51:22,040 --> 01:51:22,799
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying.

2359
01:51:22,840 --> 01:51:25,760
Speaker 1: Just like riding a bike with that being said, It

2360
01:51:25,840 --> 01:51:28,639
Speaker 1: is getting to the point now where obviously I'm working

2361
01:51:28,680 --> 01:51:33,080
Speaker 1: with him, but he's starting to dive into sharing his

2362
01:51:33,240 --> 01:51:37,080
Speaker 1: own experience and an equivalence to whoever we you know

2363
01:51:37,120 --> 01:51:39,880
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, like whoever we interview, and he like

2364
01:51:39,960 --> 01:51:42,599
Speaker 1: he could see he could meet him there, like right exactly,

2365
01:51:42,600 --> 01:51:44,400
Speaker 1: he could meet them where they at, like damn like.

2366
01:51:45,680 --> 01:51:47,760
Speaker 1: And one thing he loved talking about though, that make

2367
01:51:47,880 --> 01:51:50,439
Speaker 1: Mickey d All American game. Y'all gotta give me y'all

2368
01:51:50,560 --> 01:51:52,920
Speaker 1: experiences all because both of y'all. I ain't never that

2369
01:51:53,000 --> 01:51:53,360
Speaker 1: was ship.

2370
01:51:53,400 --> 01:51:55,320
Speaker 3: I would they you know, they invited me to the

2371
01:51:55,400 --> 01:51:58,160
Speaker 3: motherfucker win the All Star Games. Man, I ain't gonna lie.

2372
01:51:58,160 --> 01:52:04,639
Speaker 3: I would, yeah, but the trasportation was bad. But yeah, yeah, yeah, back,

2373
01:52:04,760 --> 01:52:06,720
Speaker 3: I ain't gonna hold you, bro. That's that's the crim

2374
01:52:06,760 --> 01:52:08,880
Speaker 3: little crib in high school high school feel.

2375
01:52:08,960 --> 01:52:11,320
Speaker 4: That's the epitome of what like, I don't care.

2376
01:52:11,640 --> 01:52:12,519
Speaker 1: That's the hall of fame.

2377
01:52:12,880 --> 01:52:15,360
Speaker 3: That's the grill, that's like the hall of fame, that's

2378
01:52:15,439 --> 01:52:17,439
Speaker 3: whatever you want to call. That's as big as it gets.

2379
01:52:17,560 --> 01:52:20,360
Speaker 2: Me and Zebo was on a whole different so y'all

2380
01:52:20,400 --> 01:52:23,000
Speaker 2: played together. Yeah, we was on the saying Okay, So

2381
01:52:23,120 --> 01:52:27,880
Speaker 2: everybody say that me and Zebo just was mad and

2382
01:52:28,040 --> 01:52:31,479
Speaker 2: angry at everybody and ship. We kicked everybody ass all week.

2383
01:52:31,600 --> 01:52:33,680
Speaker 2: So they said we was being mean and stuff. It

2384
01:52:33,800 --> 01:52:35,719
Speaker 2: was like, man, y'all, man, y'all had a attitude.

2385
01:52:35,840 --> 01:52:36,000
Speaker 4: I was.

2386
01:52:36,160 --> 01:52:36,640
Speaker 1: I was on that.

2387
01:52:36,840 --> 01:52:42,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, kids, that was my chance to actually but you know,

2388
01:52:42,360 --> 01:52:44,040
Speaker 2: it was a lot of Adida guys and guys that

2389
01:52:44,120 --> 01:52:46,160
Speaker 2: I ain't get to see that was ranked high to me,

2390
01:52:46,600 --> 01:52:49,439
Speaker 2: like me and Zebo when it came down to it,

2391
01:52:49,560 --> 01:52:52,640
Speaker 2: we was like ninth and tenth in the rankings. So

2392
01:52:52,720 --> 01:52:54,479
Speaker 2: when they got there, when we got there and we

2393
01:52:54,560 --> 01:52:57,400
Speaker 2: were seeing these guys that was that was older than that,

2394
01:52:57,520 --> 01:53:01,320
Speaker 2: I mean, that was us. We started getting on their

2395
01:53:01,360 --> 01:53:03,680
Speaker 2: ass and let him know he was better than at McDonald's.

2396
01:53:03,880 --> 01:53:05,680
Speaker 2: At McDonald's and.

2397
01:53:10,520 --> 01:53:13,519
Speaker 3: I just want y'all to know when y'all made it,

2398
01:53:13,640 --> 01:53:18,680
Speaker 3: bro Inner City, y'all like bro listen, you brought up

2399
01:53:18,720 --> 01:53:22,920
Speaker 3: said Banks, Yeah, brought up Utel, You brought up uh,

2400
01:53:24,160 --> 01:53:26,120
Speaker 3: Julian Whittt, You dropped Lance.

2401
01:53:27,479 --> 01:53:31,160
Speaker 4: Broh in the city. Bro, y'all was the blueprint.

2402
01:53:31,400 --> 01:53:31,519
Speaker 1: Bro.

2403
01:53:32,680 --> 01:53:36,439
Speaker 4: At least in my error, we saw the mail leave

2404
01:53:36,560 --> 01:53:39,720
Speaker 4: out of the Jointed go there we saw q rich

2405
01:53:39,760 --> 01:53:40,519
Speaker 4: sleeve out of wit.

2406
01:53:40,720 --> 01:53:44,040
Speaker 1: Y'all go to Paul and purposely stay an extra city

2407
01:53:44,360 --> 01:53:44,800
Speaker 1: to here.

2408
01:53:45,320 --> 01:53:50,360
Speaker 4: Why we don't know you Listen, I had the city

2409
01:53:50,439 --> 01:53:53,320
Speaker 4: on smash bro.

2410
01:53:53,560 --> 01:53:56,400
Speaker 3: You gotta understand my right hand of God. And you

2411
01:53:56,479 --> 01:53:58,680
Speaker 3: know how you are when you're young, your head is

2412
01:53:58,760 --> 01:54:01,360
Speaker 3: way more bigger. You think you bigger than you ever were,

2413
01:54:01,439 --> 01:54:04,400
Speaker 3: and all you thinking invisible. But like, I had a

2414
01:54:04,520 --> 01:54:07,639
Speaker 3: lot of shit to back me up. When I signed

2415
01:54:07,680 --> 01:54:10,559
Speaker 3: the d Pall, it was like it was like, oh shit,

2416
01:54:10,680 --> 01:54:12,519
Speaker 3: the city went crazy. They thought it was about to

2417
01:54:12,560 --> 01:54:16,080
Speaker 3: be market Guare Teddy grubbs Ter and then it was like.

2418
01:54:18,400 --> 01:54:20,439
Speaker 1: Espn MA. Then I showed up and showed out.

2419
01:54:20,520 --> 01:54:23,679
Speaker 3: I got every award my freshman year, E three award,

2420
01:54:24,200 --> 01:54:27,759
Speaker 3: from Player of the Year to every freshman in the year, national, local.

2421
01:54:30,400 --> 01:54:32,200
Speaker 1: The thing that influenced me, this thing is that I

2422
01:54:32,280 --> 01:54:36,240
Speaker 1: played the fucking four. I played, so the Scots wanted

2423
01:54:36,240 --> 01:54:37,720
Speaker 1: to see more. They wanted to see me.

2424
01:54:38,200 --> 01:54:41,000
Speaker 3: They wanted to see me shoot threes and play the perimeter.

2425
01:54:41,360 --> 01:54:43,360
Speaker 3: And even when I came the crazy part is that

2426
01:54:43,480 --> 01:54:45,120
Speaker 3: I came back to school and still didn't do that.

2427
01:54:45,480 --> 01:54:47,240
Speaker 4: They listened me at the three and I still played

2428
01:54:47,240 --> 01:54:47,800
Speaker 4: the same shit.

2429
01:54:47,960 --> 01:54:50,120
Speaker 3: That's why I got drafted way I got drafted because

2430
01:54:50,160 --> 01:54:51,920
Speaker 3: they wanted to see something different and I did the

2431
01:54:51,960 --> 01:54:52,360
Speaker 3: same team.

2432
01:54:52,440 --> 01:54:53,200
Speaker 1: Go look at my numbers.

2433
01:54:53,240 --> 01:54:55,640
Speaker 4: It was twenty and eleven, then it was nineteen and ten.

2434
01:54:56,560 --> 01:54:57,240
Speaker 4: It was the same thing.

2435
01:54:57,280 --> 01:54:59,040
Speaker 3: I played a four both years, even though I was

2436
01:54:59,080 --> 01:55:02,400
Speaker 3: a three. So they thought when I got to the league,

2437
01:55:02,760 --> 01:55:05,320
Speaker 3: he worked his hands off in the shot when truthfully,

2438
01:55:05,440 --> 01:55:07,200
Speaker 3: I've been there to shoot since I was a fifth grade.

2439
01:55:07,400 --> 01:55:08,840
Speaker 3: That was the first thing I was ever able to

2440
01:55:08,920 --> 01:55:10,680
Speaker 3: do is shoot the ball. I just didn't do it

2441
01:55:10,720 --> 01:55:13,600
Speaker 3: because I was a better rebounder. Every team I played

2442
01:55:13,640 --> 01:55:17,080
Speaker 3: for for my seventh grade year averaged double figures in rebound.

2443
01:55:17,080 --> 01:55:18,600
Speaker 3: I had a knack for rebound. I went to college

2444
01:55:18,640 --> 01:55:20,680
Speaker 3: every sixteen seventeen fifteen rebounds.

2445
01:55:20,840 --> 01:55:22,760
Speaker 4: I went to college led the nation in rebound as

2446
01:55:22,760 --> 01:55:25,080
Speaker 4: a freshman, so it was like like bro.

2447
01:55:25,240 --> 01:55:28,000
Speaker 3: When I first played against Kenya martin Cincinnati, we had

2448
01:55:28,040 --> 01:55:30,600
Speaker 3: to jump ball. That motherfucker looked at me and said.

2449
01:55:30,960 --> 01:55:32,640
Speaker 1: Bitch, I thought you was like sixt eight.

2450
01:55:33,400 --> 01:55:36,200
Speaker 4: Like. I got that so many times when I played teams.

2451
01:55:36,200 --> 01:55:38,760
Speaker 3: Because you're playing a fold the foe and leading the

2452
01:55:38,840 --> 01:55:40,560
Speaker 3: country in rebounding as a freshman.

2453
01:55:40,880 --> 01:55:43,680
Speaker 4: Nobody knew that I was six', five, so like you

2454
01:55:43,720 --> 01:55:43,960
Speaker 4: know What i'm.

2455
01:55:44,000 --> 01:55:45,600
Speaker 3: Saying that was the only thing that WHEN i got to,

2456
01:55:45,640 --> 01:55:48,640
Speaker 3: school like you already, Know like you, SAID i brought

2457
01:55:48,680 --> 01:55:52,320
Speaker 3: the mentality with. ME i brought Red West chicago with.

2458
01:55:52,440 --> 01:55:55,080
Speaker 3: Me WHEN i call, here, Everybody i'm playing For, like,

2459
01:55:55,120 --> 01:55:57,280
Speaker 3: bro before we played the, Game i'm sitting here looking

2460
01:55:57,760 --> 01:56:00,400
Speaker 3: were playing you, know athletes in, action, know like the

2461
01:56:00,480 --> 01:56:05,160
Speaker 3: little bullshit tend you playing. Exhibition i'm chilling that motherfucking popcorn.

2462
01:56:05,320 --> 01:56:09,480
Speaker 1: Pop then they, saw, yes see one of the.

2463
01:56:09,600 --> 01:56:12,000
Speaker 3: Excitement it's all, NAH i wanted TO i need to

2464
01:56:12,080 --> 01:56:14,320
Speaker 3: just in college because it was, Like, bro we was

2465
01:56:14,400 --> 01:56:15,840
Speaker 3: four and twenty something the year.

2466
01:56:15,880 --> 01:56:18,280
Speaker 4: Before what AM i getting out of this practice and?

2467
01:56:18,320 --> 01:56:19,200
Speaker 4: EVERYTHING i showed?

2468
01:56:19,240 --> 01:56:19,360
Speaker 3: Up?

2469
01:56:19,520 --> 01:56:20,400
Speaker 4: Arrogant? Cocky is?

2470
01:56:20,440 --> 01:56:23,560
Speaker 3: Hell we here because y'all could. Not i'm, LIKE i

2471
01:56:23,600 --> 01:56:25,400
Speaker 3: don't got to compete against. Y'all like they were trying

2472
01:56:25,440 --> 01:56:27,320
Speaker 3: to punk, us like do that freshman? SHALL i was, Like,

2473
01:56:27,400 --> 01:56:28,960
Speaker 3: bro are you shitting me right?

2474
01:56:29,040 --> 01:56:29,720
Speaker 4: Now was it?

2475
01:56:29,880 --> 01:56:30,000
Speaker 1: Was it?

2476
01:56:30,080 --> 01:56:30,400
Speaker 4: Was it was?

2477
01:56:30,440 --> 01:56:31,640
Speaker 1: You you never heard one of.

2478
01:56:31,720 --> 01:56:34,560
Speaker 3: That it was Me, Lands Bobby, simmons carry Hard, Field

2479
01:56:35,800 --> 01:56:38,000
Speaker 3: sean Burn old. Lamar we had the number one recruiting

2480
01:56:38,000 --> 01:56:41,520
Speaker 3: class In. America you aren't about telling me shit. Anyone,

2481
01:56:43,520 --> 01:56:47,320
Speaker 3: YEAH i couldn't me, particularly. BITCH i had EVERYBODY i

2482
01:56:47,360 --> 01:56:48,920
Speaker 3: could have went to anywhere in the. Country so it

2483
01:56:49,040 --> 01:56:54,120
Speaker 3: was Like i'm staying here like our freshman year was. Errogant,

2484
01:56:54,360 --> 01:56:55,480
Speaker 3: NO i know, THAT i.

2485
01:56:55,680 --> 01:56:57,720
Speaker 4: KNOW i love. That you couldn't tell shit In.

2486
01:56:57,800 --> 01:56:59,760
Speaker 1: Chicago bro just won't.

2487
01:56:59,840 --> 01:57:02,320
Speaker 2: Say, man we appreciate you coming on the, show but

2488
01:57:02,960 --> 01:57:06,200
Speaker 2: we're very proud of, you know what fining.

2489
01:57:07,320 --> 01:57:09,320
Speaker 4: What you're, Doing, Man so keep doing your. Thing.

2490
01:57:09,480 --> 01:57:12,280
Speaker 1: Brow we, family, man y'all got y'all got always, Know. Bro,

2491
01:57:12,680 --> 01:57:14,520
Speaker 1: listen hold on. Cute you gotta always.

2492
01:57:14,640 --> 01:57:14,680
Speaker 4: Know.

2493
01:57:14,840 --> 01:57:17,720
Speaker 1: Bro BEFORE i got into this hoop and. Ship, bro

2494
01:57:19,400 --> 01:57:22,000
Speaker 1: y'all are the, Guys, bro AND i don't want y'all

2495
01:57:22,120 --> 01:57:25,280
Speaker 1: ever not feel like y'all ain't the godfathers of that. City,

2496
01:57:25,360 --> 01:57:29,160
Speaker 1: bro and any hooper coming up before, That, man they

2497
01:57:29,280 --> 01:57:32,120
Speaker 1: gonna understand. That so big salute to y'all for having

2498
01:57:32,160 --> 01:57:34,480
Speaker 1: me on the. Platform, man AND i had.

2499
01:57:34,640 --> 01:57:35,720
Speaker 4: FUN i already know.

2500
01:57:37,280 --> 01:57:39,160
Speaker 2: Do it, again, man we gotta do a collapse, now

2501
01:57:39,280 --> 01:57:40,200
Speaker 2: we gotta come on out the.

2502
01:57:40,360 --> 01:57:43,760
Speaker 3: Mud now that's the set. Up we need both of

2503
01:57:43,840 --> 01:57:45,720
Speaker 3: these guys on out. There my mother play for the.

2504
01:57:45,800 --> 01:57:48,920
Speaker 3: Underplay they too near not to.

2505
01:57:49,000 --> 01:57:57,120
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2506
01:57:57,120 --> 01:57:57,880
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