1 00:00:01,720 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 1: Cool Media. Hello and welcome nichols On Media book Club, 2 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 1: the only book club where you don't have to do 3 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 1: the reading, because I do it for you. We are 4 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 1: doing our summer beach read wherever you find the beach, 5 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:24,440 Speaker 1: I often find it at creeks, and during our summer 6 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 1: beach reads, we read something that's a little longer than 7 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 1: we normally feature, so you can bank up a few 8 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 1: episodes for a road trip or a summer hike, or 9 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:36,519 Speaker 1: sitting by the creek and watching the creek, which is 10 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 1: nicer actually when it's not painfully horrendously hot out, which 11 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 1: it is right now. I'm really excited about how in 12 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 1: the future we're only going to have two seasons summer 13 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:50,199 Speaker 1: in hell Mouth, nine months of summer, three months of Hellmouth. 14 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 1: That's what we have to look forward to anyway. But 15 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:57,639 Speaker 1: right now we are continuing our read through a Locust 16 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 1: House by Adam Gannatti. This is part three. Locust House 17 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,320 Speaker 1: is a novella about the San Diego punk scene and 18 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 1: the fucked up but still empathizeable people that you find there. 19 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 1: It's part three of four. You should listen to the 20 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 1: first two parts. I'm not going to tell you have to, 21 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 1: but I'm gonna tell you you should. Last week we 22 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 1: met two people partners, James and Francis, who got a 23 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 1: lots and ran into their other friend, Joey, who's been 24 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 1: kind of going off the rails lately. Then they rendezvoued 25 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 1: with their other pal Tyler and decided to go to 26 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 1: the closing party of the East Street House aka the 27 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:39,399 Speaker 1: Avocado Club aka Locust House, so named because the members 28 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 1: of an electrifying grind core band called the Locust they 29 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 1: all live there. And that's where we'll pick up for 30 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 1: this week, with James narrating. I mean, I'm narrating, but 31 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 1: you know, it's a sort of interviewish format this particular 32 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 1: part of the book. The book is written in a 33 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 1: lot of different sort of interesting formats. Here we are, 34 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: this is James. There's this line from Costaveti's great film 35 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 1: Opening Night, where Gina Rollins character says, when I was seventeen, 36 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 1: I could do anything. It was so easy. My emotions 37 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 1: were so close to the surface, finding it harder and 38 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 1: harder to stay in touch. That's how it was. I mean, 39 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 1: I wasn't exactly young Francis was. I wasn't. But here's 40 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 1: the thing. I was a ghost. In high school. I 41 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 1: had no friends to speak of, and my everyday plan 42 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 1: was survival. I wanted to live through the day without 43 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 1: confrontation and get home so I could hide in my 44 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 1: bedroom and what I don't know, draw, read magazines, stare 45 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:43,519 Speaker 1: at the wall. My youth was a total shit storm. 46 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:47,519 Speaker 1: After elementary school, which was great, and so was my childhood, 47 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 1: a good, ideal, sweet one where I felt loved and 48 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 1: safe and respected, I hit middle school like a piece 49 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 1: of hamburger dropped on a grill. Walking the halls of 50 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:01,360 Speaker 1: peb Middle I felt like a fox hunt constantly in 51 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 1: a world where no one had ever seen a fox, 52 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 1: but really intensely wanted to eat one on a bun 53 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 1: with bacon and mayo. I hated bacon and I hated mayo, 54 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 1: but more than anything, I hated myself. Of course, as 55 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 1: it goes, people hated me because I hated myself, and 56 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 1: because of that, I was scared of my shadow and 57 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 1: inarticulate and full of heavy, awful weapons, great anxiety that 58 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 1: sabotaged me at every step. I wanted to die because 59 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:31,920 Speaker 1: I knew I was nothing, and I wanted to die 60 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 1: because I knew no one would ever care what I 61 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 1: had to say. My life was powerless. I saw the 62 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 1: future as a bland, stultifying thing that looked like those 63 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 1: horrible shtheads from friends sitting on a couch and some 64 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 1: fancy ass well lit New York coffee shop trading mild insults. 65 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 1: Hated them, and I hated that the future, my future 66 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 1: was headed that way. At the time, I had no 67 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 1: other frame of reference to tell me life could be 68 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 1: something else. What I saw, what I knew, was what 69 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 1: I was given by mainstream media, and if adulthood looked 70 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 1: like must CTV, I wanted out no future, no fun, 71 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 1: no hope, no beauty. I was wrong, of course, but 72 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:16,840 Speaker 1: at that time my true youth I was a dog 73 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:19,599 Speaker 1: that had been kicked so often I flinched at every tremor. 74 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 1: I didn't have that impressionable, romantic, idealistic teenagehood like a 75 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 1: lot of people that came later. It came in my 76 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:30,599 Speaker 1: early twenties, and it came when punk rock found me 77 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 1: in the audience of that Cha Cafe show and dragged 78 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 1: me in. It was a moment that arrived when I 79 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:39,719 Speaker 1: least expected it, and beyond giving me good music, it 80 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:42,279 Speaker 1: told me life could be shaped however you want, as 81 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:45,480 Speaker 1: long as you work hard and dig for new options. 82 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 1: The important thing was to fight every day to make 83 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:50,720 Speaker 1: your life what you wanted it to be. I had 84 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 1: so many people telling me life had to be this 85 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:55,159 Speaker 1: one set thing, and finding out that I didn't have 86 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 1: to listen to them, that I could come up with 87 00:04:57,279 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 1: my own way to live busted my world. And two, 88 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 1: which is to say, I fell head over heels in 89 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 1: love with the brutalist, smartest, meanest kind of punk rock. 90 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 1: And it opened up life like a giant window with 91 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:16,040 Speaker 1: all the sunlight in the world streaming in. And that 92 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:19,160 Speaker 1: all led to the final house show A two four one, 93 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 1: one E Street, the Avocado Club, the E Street House, 94 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 1: the Locust House, whatever you called it. The place was 95 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 1: an epicenter for things free of bullshit, a burning atomic 96 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 1: center point to the neighborhood and the scene and punk 97 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 1: rock in general. Francis. One of my strongest memories of 98 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 1: that time has less to do with the party than 99 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 1: the aftermath. Everyone moved out of the house right and 100 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 1: as soon as they were gone, the new tenants hung 101 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 1: an American flag from the second story. It went suddenly 102 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 1: from the cool house on the block where the best 103 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 1: bands lived to the fucking White House. You have to 104 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:02,359 Speaker 1: remem this was just a year after nine to eleven, 105 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:06,359 Speaker 1: and a lot of us had some pretty ugh, I 106 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:10,720 Speaker 1: don't want to say, well yeah, okay, anti American sentiments 107 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 1: at the time. We were angry and we felt let 108 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:17,280 Speaker 1: down some of us, a lot of us were sure 109 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 1: our government had cost it. Even if it wasn't an 110 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 1: inside job like some people say, we were at the 111 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 1: very least responsible for waging constant global war for money 112 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:31,720 Speaker 1: and calling it justice. It's an awful thing when you 113 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:33,919 Speaker 1: grow up thinking that you and your country are the 114 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:36,799 Speaker 1: good guys, and then you find out it's all bullshit. 115 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:40,039 Speaker 1: The day I realized we weren't as noble as I'd 116 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 1: been told, fuck man, it was a crushing moment. It 117 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:49,039 Speaker 1: changed me. I've never been the same from a very 118 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 1: young age. I've been looking for community. Most of the 119 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:55,039 Speaker 1: time you were let down, but sometimes, if even for 120 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:57,719 Speaker 1: a short while, it felt like we were all in 121 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 1: it together. That's how our scene felt, and losing that 122 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:05,480 Speaker 1: house was a huge blow. Maybe not for everyone, maybe 123 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:07,919 Speaker 1: not even for the bands or the people who lived there, 124 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 1: but for me it was a symbol of a better, smarter, 125 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:17,119 Speaker 1: more ethical life. It seemed firm and substantial. It felt 126 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 1: like something that couldn't be taken away from us. That's 127 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: one thing I've learned. People say that there are things 128 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 1: that can't be taken from you. Everything can be taken 129 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 1: from you the place you live, your friends, your family, 130 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 1: your health, your youth, your sense of self or your dignity, 131 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: your freedom, your confidence, your spirit, anything. There is nothing 132 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 1: in you that's yours to keep. If someone else wants 133 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 1: it bad enough, you try to hold on to it. 134 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 1: But life is inherently unfairly violent. From our scene, and 135 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 1: even more so at that last party, I felt a 136 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 1: kind of togetherness that was like what we experienced in 137 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 1: the weeks following nine to eleven. People were suddenly good 138 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 1: to each other, and it seemed like we were, oh, 139 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 1: please get that, and it seemed like we were all 140 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 1: closer than we were before. Of course, that was over fast. 141 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: In both circumstances, the party was shut down by the 142 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 1: cops and everyone left. People stopped watching the news after 143 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 1: the attacks because they couldn't take the footage, or because 144 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 1: they had to live their lives to get by, to 145 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 1: keep moving. I understand that. I remember sitting on the 146 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 1: couch at my mom's house with James and my sister 147 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 1: Sadie and Rebecca, watching the news reports with the towers 148 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:42,959 Speaker 1: burning and people jumping out, holding hands, falling, falling, Ugh, 149 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 1: and us sitting there crying all day, so scared, so uncertain. 150 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 1: Around dinnertime, a couple of my friends showed up with 151 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 1: a fucking pizza. They wanted to hang out and then 152 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 1: go to a show at the Chay or the Epicenter somewhere. 153 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 1: I was like, what the fuck. I didn't say what 154 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 1: the fuck, but I did say, haven't you guys been 155 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 1: watching the news? My friend Timmy Willetts, standing in the 156 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 1: doorway holding the pizza box, shrugged and said, kind of, 157 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 1: I know something happened, but like, but they didn't care. 158 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 1: People move on or they don't feel something as deeply 159 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 1: as they should. I thought that after nine to eleven 160 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 1: there should be some kind of greater togetherness in our culture, 161 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 1: just like I felt as though the energy of that 162 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 1: party would carry on. In both cases, I was wrong, 163 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:38,200 Speaker 1: and it was incredibly isolating. Situations like those are moments 164 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 1: of innocence, and once innocence is replaced by cynicism or 165 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 1: even a lack of concern. It can deal a heavy blow. 166 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 1: You experience closeness, but then it's a temporary closeness, and 167 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 1: once you realize that it's over, then things start feeling 168 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:58,560 Speaker 1: pretty lonely. I've always wanted people to join together in 169 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 1: their neighborhoods they're scene, or in their families, whatever it is. 170 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 1: But the fact of the matter is Americans are bad togetherness. 171 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:10,119 Speaker 1: We're afraid of it, or we label it as this dangerous, 172 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 1: subversive thing, this toxic kind of discord in the face 173 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 1: of rugged American individualism, which is nothing but bullshit and 174 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 1: self sabotage. Or we find it and it feels so good, 175 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 1: it feels natural. But just as soon as we're brought together, 176 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 1: we either let go or allow ourselves to be pulled 177 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 1: away from each other, or we stop caring, we find 178 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 1: other things to take up our interest, We get distracted. 179 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 1: I wanted to take the flag off that porch and 180 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:44,719 Speaker 1: burn it, just like I wanted to kick George W. 181 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 1: Bush's grave, half smirking monkey face in. I wanted to 182 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 1: take the flag in order to keep the house alive, 183 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 1: which wouldn't work. Of course, the end happened. It was over. 184 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 1: People go on with their lives, and sometimes what they 185 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:02,839 Speaker 1: do next is even better. Or people forget, they allow 186 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 1: themselves to be caught up in something and then they 187 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:08,560 Speaker 1: brush it off. The house was not the house anymore, 188 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 1: and it never would be again. I knew that, but 189 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 1: I had to do something. I had to act. I 190 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 1: needed some sort of pure driven cleansing to happen. I 191 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 1: had to burn the flag. There was no other option. 192 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:28,440 Speaker 1: Much like dear listeners, the compulsion we feel to throw 193 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 1: to ads, and trust me, I do wish there was 194 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 1: any other option, but no, I feel compulsed. Here's the ads, 195 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 1: and we're back. For months after the party, James and 196 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 1: I had a vague, sort of unrealized plan to steal 197 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:01,440 Speaker 1: the flag. We talked, talked about it often, but like 198 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:04,080 Speaker 1: most of our plans at the time, it never got 199 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 1: off the ground. One night that summer, James, Tyler, Sadie 200 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:11,559 Speaker 1: and I stayed up late drinking this big jug of 201 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 1: Carla Rossi Burgundy and listening to Hella's newest record over 202 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 1: and over again on both speeds, like Tyler loved. At 203 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 1: some point four am, no later, maybe five, I knew 204 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 1: it was time I got up off the couch. And 205 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 1: shushed the room. Sh Okay, listen, okay, guys, let's go 206 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 1: capture the goddamn fucking flag, I said, and then everyone 207 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 1: was excited. We trooped on down there, sticking to the 208 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 1: alleyways in the darker side streets, stopping to sit on 209 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 1: curbs or garden walls and drink the last of the wine, 210 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:52,439 Speaker 1: all full of noble purpose and what we thought was righteousness. 211 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 1: For Tyler and Sadie and maybe even James, it was 212 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 1: more a fun, crazy thing to do. I wanted them 213 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:03,080 Speaker 1: to feel like I did, but I knew they didn't. Still, 214 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 1: they were caught up in the moment, and I let 215 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 1: myself imagine that they felt it just as much as 216 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 1: I did. I needed to believe we were all doing 217 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 1: this thing for the same reason, even if they were 218 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 1: faking it. A little felt good to be together. It 219 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 1: scared the hell out of me to think James, of 220 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 1: all people, didn't feel this as much as I did. 221 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:26,439 Speaker 1: Knowing I would later find out that he didn't care 222 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 1: as deeply as me. That he didn't have the same 223 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 1: ideals was heartbreaking. We're not together anymore, but we're still friends. 224 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:37,559 Speaker 1: I wish he was more like me, but maybe he's 225 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 1: happier because he's not. I'll give him that. I can 226 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 1: understand wanting some distance from the shitty evilness of the world. 227 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe I wish I was more like 228 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 1: him Back then. I lived for parties and believed in 229 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 1: having fun above all. I still do, but my work 230 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 1: keeps me away from enjoying myself a lot of the time. 231 00:13:57,559 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 1: James has always been optimistic, and he let thing slide 232 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 1: off his back. We've been that way before, but I'm 233 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 1: not that way now. Anyway. We took our time, talking 234 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 1: a lot, saying big things, and letting the grandness of 235 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 1: what we were about to do color our speech with bold, 236 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 1: wild ideas and words that would sound preposterous. The next morning, James, 237 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 1: who was happy drunk, kept saying, I feel like Robin 238 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 1: Hood and I did too. We had a purpose. We were 239 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 1: going to strike back for the neighborhood and the scene 240 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 1: and win one for the good guys. So we got 241 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 1: to the house and there were cops everywhere. The place 242 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 1: was a mess, a fire truck and ambulance squad cars 243 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 1: with lights spinning and flashing on the line of houses 244 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 1: and parked cars. What said Sadie, She just kept saying 245 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 1: it over and over again. What what? What? A couple 246 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 1: of EMTs were on the lawn working on this older 247 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:59,479 Speaker 1: woman in a torn, open pink bathrobe, full on CPR. 248 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 1: Then the which was a horrible thing to see. The 249 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 1: paddles pushed down, the body flopped up, then the paddles again. 250 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 1: We stood there and watched them try to bring this 251 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 1: poor fucking woman back to life. And we stood there 252 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 1: and we stood there, and we stood there, and they 253 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 1: weren't having any success. But by then Tyler and Sadie 254 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 1: and I were crying and Ugh, I hope to God 255 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 1: they'd save her. Nothing happened. They kept working. We turned 256 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 1: around and walked home. The sun was beginning to come 257 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 1: up over the housetops to the east, and the four 258 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 1: of us walked together and no one said a thing. 259 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 1: It was like a death toll ringing the final toll. 260 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 1: Not just for the woman. I hope she lived but 261 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 1: I never found out, but for this thing I wanted 262 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 1: so badly to be a greater part of my life. 263 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 1: We never went back. Tyler. It was good to hang 264 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 1: out with kids like Frankie and James, because that was 265 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 1: really not me. I wasn't searching for myself like they were, 266 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 1: and I didn't need the same things they needed. I've 267 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 1: always had a plan, and these days I am exactly 268 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 1: where I hoped I would be. People change, but I 269 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 1: haven't changed much. The wild, manically drinking, drug guzzling Tyler 270 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 1: Monahan isn't much different from doctor Tyler Monahan because I've 271 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 1: always been on this path. Frankie and James they were. 272 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 1: They are, impulsive, naive, emotional. Everything they did they did 273 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 1: last minute and reckless, and most of the time what 274 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 1: they tried to do didn't work. There was no premeditative thought, 275 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 1: none at all. It was on the fly and unexamined, 276 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 1: and you've got to be very good or very lucky 277 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 1: to succeed that way. Frankie and James believed in things 278 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 1: I enjoyed but didn't necessarily have to have. They believed 279 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 1: in the bands, and they believed in the scene. They 280 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 1: believed in finding community and in people joining together in 281 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 1: the name of something bigger than them. I was around 282 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:06,679 Speaker 1: for all of that, especially the shows and parties. But 283 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 1: really this sounds more dismissive than I'd like. I was 284 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 1: just blowing off steam. Things like that party were fun, 285 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:18,360 Speaker 1: but they were just parties. My prime directive was getting 286 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:23,359 Speaker 1: shit done. The rest was just. The rest was all diversions, 287 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:27,200 Speaker 1: great fun, thrilling diversions, but it wasn't all that important 288 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:30,360 Speaker 1: to me. You don't dwell on the past. You move forward. 289 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 1: And if you do that and plan well and make calm, rational, 290 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 1: deliberate choices along the way, you'll find the present is 291 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 1: a lot better than what came before. We all make mistakes, 292 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 1: and we all lose things. But if you spend too 293 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:47,399 Speaker 1: much time looking back, we'll never go anywhere. Much like 294 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 1: dear listeners, how the ad transitions aren't going anywhere. They 295 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:57,440 Speaker 1: never look back. They continue forward as they consume, much 296 00:17:57,520 --> 00:18:16,920 Speaker 1: like you will. Here's ads, and we're back the wild. 297 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:21,920 Speaker 1: Tyler Monahan didn't exist on weekdays. I studied. I spent 298 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:24,679 Speaker 1: long hours in the chemistry lab, and I tutored, and 299 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 1: I moved toward my goal at a nice, even keel. 300 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:30,919 Speaker 1: When I got there, it happened faster than I thought. 301 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:33,920 Speaker 1: I found I was happier than I imagined I would be. 302 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 1: Were least contented, secure in my place. I felt a 303 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 1: little lonely because it was still is something I did 304 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:46,680 Speaker 1: on my own. Frankie and James have both had, well, 305 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 1: to be honest, much harder lives than mine. I feel 306 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:52,239 Speaker 1: bad for them, of course, but when we get what 307 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 1: we work for, and that's that's what they got, I'll 308 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 1: always stand behind them and have their back. I mean 309 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 1: this is serious. I'm serious. I'd give my life for 310 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 1: those two, and I say that without exaggeration. But I 311 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:06,400 Speaker 1: know what I am and I know what they are, 312 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:11,120 Speaker 1: and we're different animals. I get sad thinking about them sometimes, 313 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 1: and when I do, I feel old. I feel creaky 314 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:19,120 Speaker 1: and lonely and kind of kind of maybe cold, yeah, cold, 315 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 1: But then I remember the good things I have, the 316 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:25,359 Speaker 1: fact that we're only how would you say this, only 317 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 1: very tangentially involved in each other's lives. These days, it 318 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:33,640 Speaker 1: is hard. Sometimes. We've talked about that the three of us. 319 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:36,919 Speaker 1: Some fantasy part of me would love it if we 320 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 1: all lived in the same house one day, we could 321 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 1: grow old together, keep each other company. But I know 322 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:48,679 Speaker 1: it's just that fantasy. We're far too different now, just 323 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:53,640 Speaker 1: as it was back then. Sometimes I think we are 324 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 1: truly a lost generation, not in the romantic literary Paris 325 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:02,119 Speaker 1: nineteen twenties way Frankie always hoped, but lost in the 326 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:05,680 Speaker 1: sense that America is this huge, vast, enormous place where 327 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:09,880 Speaker 1: everyone you know lives so astronomically far away from each other. 328 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 1: There's a deep, sad estrangement in Americans. We're also spread 329 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 1: apart and isolated, living these remote, far flung lives. We've 330 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 1: chosen this. Maybe we could have chosen differently. I don't know, 331 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:28,640 Speaker 1: but this is what we wanted. I am not at 332 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 1: all nostalgic for those days. I believe in living right 333 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 1: now and being the best, happiest versions of you that 334 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:39,959 Speaker 1: you can be, and the past be damned just the same. 335 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 1: I'd be lying if I didn't say the wild Tyler 336 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 1: Monahan and he's still there. Wouldn't love to step back 337 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:50,359 Speaker 1: into the madness sometimes and feel all that all that 338 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:53,919 Speaker 1: energy bursting around him, energy that was not really his, 339 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 1: but that he enjoyed nonetheless and was caught up in, and, 340 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 1: if only for a short time, feltly substantially alive. James. 341 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:08,120 Speaker 1: The first few hours of the party were spent moving 342 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 1: room to room, watching whatever band was playing. At that point, 343 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 1: my bottle of mad Dog was gone, and I was 344 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 1: floating along stupidly in a way I never would again. 345 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 1: Seeing the sights like an astronaut on a new planet 346 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:24,880 Speaker 1: or a tourist in my own neighborhood. The later it got, 347 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 1: the more people arrived, until you could barely get through 348 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 1: the holmes. At some point we ran into Ted Boone 349 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 1: in a leather jacket and a very dirty Joy Division shirt, 350 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:36,879 Speaker 1: who was visiting from Portland, and dragged me, Tyler and 351 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:39,679 Speaker 1: Frankie out behind the house and made us do shots 352 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 1: of brandy with him while he told us about his 353 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 1: plans to join the seminary. You guys, I'm doing it. 354 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 1: Next time you see me, I'll be Reverend ted Boone. 355 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:50,640 Speaker 1: He made the sign of the Cross in the air. 356 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:55,200 Speaker 1: Tyler shook his head. I don't believe that. You There's 357 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 1: no way you hate Jesus. I think that's really sweet, 358 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:04,160 Speaker 1: said Frankie. Ted Boone smiled pleased. Yeah, yeah, I like that. 359 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 1: It's sweet. You really believe in God, I asked, handing 360 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:12,440 Speaker 1: the bottle back to him. Is that trick question? Because 361 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:15,880 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure you told me different, like many many times, 362 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 1: Tyler laughed and took the bottle from Ted Boone. That 363 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 1: bumper sticker on the old Boon Mobile, the one that 364 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 1: said executing Jesus, for treason is the reason for the season. 365 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 1: I remember that Ted Boone laughed and shook his head. 366 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 1: I believe in whatever will get me where I want 367 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 1: to go. It's kind of fucked up, I said James 368 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 1: Tyler Francis, welcome to my world. Drink more brandy. You 369 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:45,399 Speaker 1: will start to believe in many things great and small. 370 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 1: Drink now, because I am in a grand, amorous mood, 371 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 1: and I must find sexual companionship of the young and 372 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 1: firm breasted kind, or I will wither like the vine 373 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:58,399 Speaker 1: without shade. You're kind of a villain ted boon. You 374 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 1: know that, right bank on it, he said, with an 375 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 1: evil grin. I took the bottle from Tyler and unscrewed 376 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:12,359 Speaker 1: the cap. After that, I was fucked. And dear listener, 377 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:15,680 Speaker 1: that's where we're going to leave it today, right as 378 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:20,159 Speaker 1: the party gets going. Obviously, you'll notice that this is 379 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 1: not a story about a party. I mean it is, 380 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 1: but you know it's not a story about a party. 381 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:27,719 Speaker 1: It's a story about our lives and who we are 382 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:30,640 Speaker 1: and who we used to be and all of that. Hazel, 383 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 1: who helps behind the scene, says, quote, I really like 384 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 1: how this novella plays with time scales, stretching a few 385 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:41,120 Speaker 1: hours into a whole book and compressing a lifespan in between, 386 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 1: the way that Adam writes about punks growing out of 387 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 1: the scene is really relatable to me. We can't burn 388 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,440 Speaker 1: bright forever and what do you do with yourself once 389 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:53,359 Speaker 1: you've burnt out? And it's sad, but it's also like fine. 390 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 1: Life has phases, and this book so perfectly captures what 391 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:59,199 Speaker 1: it's like to be young and what it's like to 392 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:04,679 Speaker 1: have been young once. Really good shit, Thanks Adam. I 393 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 1: guess I would say that that's how I feel about 394 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 1: it too. I really think by showing different people's perspective 395 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 1: on that particular thing, I think it does a lot 396 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 1: of good. Or the story's good because it shows that 397 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,360 Speaker 1: I am not feeling articulate. It has been a long 398 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:30,680 Speaker 1: day of smog, not small wildfire smoke. But I really 399 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 1: like the like balance of nostalgia non nostalgia, right, Like 400 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 1: a lot of the characters like, aha, it used to 401 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 1: be kind of crazy. That's kind of shitty, right, and 402 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 1: other people are like fuck, I thought we all meant 403 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 1: it when we said we were trying to do this 404 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 1: like revolutionary shit, And you know, other people are like, Yeah, 405 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 1: this is always just the stage. This is always I 406 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 1: was going to be and uh, that's how it is, 407 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 1: you know. And I think that's like one of the 408 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:59,400 Speaker 1: main things about being young is thinking that you're going 409 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:05,200 Speaker 1: to enter a static thing, that adulthood is the static thing, 410 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 1: and you're gonna you know, your friend group in your 411 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 1: early twenties is the only friend group you've ever had 412 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:14,639 Speaker 1: in your early twenties, and it feels eternal, and then 413 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 1: people burn out or die or drift away or you 414 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:23,160 Speaker 1: do these things. You know, I don't know. That's why 415 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 1: this book stuck with me. Like I said, I read 416 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 1: it all in one night the day I picked it 417 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:31,159 Speaker 1: up out of my stack of Adam Ganotti books because 418 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:33,639 Speaker 1: I did what you all should do, which is I 419 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 1: found when Adam Gannatti was speaking. I actually didn't know 420 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:38,399 Speaker 1: his work particularly well yet, but I went to go 421 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:41,919 Speaker 1: see him speak and was pretty blown away by the 422 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,920 Speaker 1: reading he did. And so then I just bought his 423 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 1: entire collection of books, because that's what my brain says 424 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:53,119 Speaker 1: is the thing I should do. But who is Adam Ganatti? 425 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 1: You might be asking. You're probably not asking, because I've 426 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 1: read his bio twice before on this thing, but I'm 427 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:01,880 Speaker 1: going to read it again. Born in San Diego, California, 428 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 1: Adam Gannatti now lives on a six acre farm in 429 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 1: rural Kansas, near the towns of Lawrence and Tonganoxie and 430 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 1: a half hour outside Kansas City, Missouri. On September twenty sixth, 431 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 1: twenty twenty six, the Numero Group will reissue Gannatti's two 432 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:21,440 Speaker 1: thousand five debut Talking Songs record Run, Hide, Retreat, Surrender 433 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 1: on twelve inch final. In October of twenty twenty six, 434 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 1: his fourteenth book, Wild Horseshit Horseshit's Two Words will be 435 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,440 Speaker 1: released by Brett and Roses Press in conjunction with three 436 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 1: to one G. Recent works have included the Home and 437 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 1: Away Quartet and the Talking Song's collection The World of 438 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,679 Speaker 1: Today and the World of Tomorrow, issued on cassette in 439 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one and Layethe Cut CD in twenty twenty six. 440 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 1: Gannatti's work is published and issued by Brett and Roses Press, 441 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 1: three to one G. Hello America Stereo Cassette and the 442 00:26:54,160 --> 00:27:00,199 Speaker 1: Numero Group. And I'm your Host, Margaret kildoy Ana. I 443 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 1: have music. I don't know if I plug some stuff 444 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:04,680 Speaker 1: I don't plug as often. You can find my black 445 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,400 Speaker 1: metal band Femino School, which was me and several other 446 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 1: amazing musicians. We haven't put out anything in a long time, 447 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 1: but it is real good. And you can also find 448 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:16,480 Speaker 1: my sad Girl Beepboop electronic music at Nomadic war Machine 449 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:20,399 Speaker 1: and other sad Girl electronic music a two piece band 450 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 1: called the Lathe. You can find all of these things 451 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:26,360 Speaker 1: wherever you listen to music. Band Camp is a good one. 452 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 1: I'd recommend that over Spotify. I will be back next 453 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 1: week with one more Locust House. And don't forget about 454 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 1: our girl Agnes from the first episode. She will be 455 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 1: back and fighting until then. Carry the words of Ursula 456 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 1: k Legwin. We live in capitalism. Its power seems inescapable, 457 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 1: so did the divine right of kings. And yeah we 458 00:27:52,800 --> 00:28:00,919 Speaker 1: can and we will imagine a better world together. 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