1 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 1: Hey, and welcome to these short stuff. There's Chuck, there's Josh, 2 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:11,160 Speaker 1: that's me, and there's Jerry over there. Uh, no time 3 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 1: to talk any further. Let's get started. We're talking about 4 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 1: dolphins disarming by Are you gonna do that every time 5 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:19,240 Speaker 1: as long as I get a laugh out of you? Yeah, 6 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 1: I will laugh every time. Well, then every time it 7 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:24,599 Speaker 1: is because I'm laughing, because then we do this and 8 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: it takes more time than it does. I hadn't thought 9 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 1: about that. Yeah, maybe I will stop doing that because 10 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: I really do feel like pressed for time, Like you 11 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:37,919 Speaker 1: can see him perspiring across the top of my lip. Hey, 12 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 1: let me try Josh Clark introw. Okay, hey, Josh, have 13 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 1: you ever seen a dolphin? Yes? I have, Chuck feels 14 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 1: like it does. It's kind of exhilarating. Yeah, especially when 15 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 1: you know that that the other person has seen or 16 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 1: done or whatever. Yeah. Yeah, you're in the club. So 17 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 1: we've both seen dolphins. We have. Uh, and I knew 18 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 1: about this. Uh. What we're talking about here is the 19 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:07,040 Speaker 1: fact that the U. S. Navy uses dolphins to find 20 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:13,759 Speaker 1: unexploded underwater ocean minds, right, And I knew about this, 21 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 1: but uh, you know it was kind of cool just 22 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:19,960 Speaker 1: to see how exactly this works. It was well also 23 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 1: to think a lot of people have the impression that 24 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:24,680 Speaker 1: the dolphins are there, like you know, they're sweating themselves, 25 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 1: they're wiping sweats from their their brows. They're disarming these 26 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 1: minds right like by like my flipper can't even hold 27 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 1: these plyers right or was it the green wire or 28 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 1: the red wire I'm supposed to clip? But that's all right, 29 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 1: that's not the case at all. They don't actually disarm 30 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 1: the minds. They don't even really get that close to it. 31 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 1: What they do is they go find minds for like 32 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:46,960 Speaker 1: the U. S. Navy. It's not just the U. S. 33 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 1: Navy that does this. Apparently, um Russia captured Ukraine's dolphin 34 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 1: patrol in Crimea and the Crimean War. Recently they used 35 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 1: Dolph Landgren. He can't swim, terrible joke. He sings like 36 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 1: a stone. He he does. He doesn't like you would 37 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 1: be a swimmer, does he? He know he's too he's 38 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 1: got too much like muscle, you know, which I mean 39 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 1: sounds counterintuitive, but yeah, he does look like he would 40 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 1: sink for sure. Uh yeah, So what do you say 41 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 1: Russians use him. I'm sure other people do too. Rite 42 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 1: a lot of people do. And again it's they're not 43 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:24,359 Speaker 1: using them to disarm the mind. They're using them to 44 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:27,080 Speaker 1: find minds. And the reason they use dolphins to find 45 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 1: minds is because there are um there's no technology that 46 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:34,679 Speaker 1: we have that comes even close to rivaling a dolphins 47 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:39,920 Speaker 1: ability to find something in very murky water with a 48 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 1: lot of loud acoustic noise and um that that may 49 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 1: be disguised to look like something else. And minds fall 50 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:49,640 Speaker 1: under all three of those categories. Yeah, so what a 51 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 1: dolphin does and we'll get to how they do it, 52 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 1: But they are trained to do this specifically with just 53 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:59,119 Speaker 1: like they would be at uh at stinky old Sea 54 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 1: World with like you know, fish is their real board 55 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 1: to do their little tricks. But they learned to search 56 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 1: for these mines. Find one and like you said, they 57 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 1: could be like fifty ft away. It's not like they 58 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 1: have to go knock on it or anything like that, 59 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 1: and it probably wouldn't explode anyway. Um. So they go 60 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 1: find one, they swim back to the boat and ring 61 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 1: a bell or you know, some sort of signifier that 62 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 1: they've worked out. They set off a firework, they shoot 63 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 1: a flare at the captain. Uh. And then the human says, 64 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:33,080 Speaker 1: all right, good job. Your work is not quite done though, 65 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 1: because all you're doing is saying there's something down there. 66 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 1: Now here is a uh, an acoustic transponder, and uh, 67 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 1: you go take this. He puts it in his little fist, 68 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 1: and then the dolphins swims back to the mine and 69 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 1: now they have you know, it's like it's a transponder, 70 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 1: so they actually know where it is now, right, And 71 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 1: then they come back and they get the fish, which 72 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 1: is really what they're they're kind of after. If you 73 00:03:56,480 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 1: remember our Star Dogs episode, it's it's kind the thing 74 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 1: like they're after a fish. They know if they go 75 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 1: do this, they'll get a fish. And people think dolphins 76 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 1: are smart. They don't. They're dumb because they don't realize 77 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 1: there's fish everywhere in that ocean. So, chuck, how how 78 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 1: would a dolphin do this kind of thing? Why is 79 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 1: a dolphins so much so, so vastly superior to anything 80 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 1: that humans can come up with technology wise? Well, humans 81 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 1: are pretty good at coming up with technology. Frankly, that 82 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 1: is correct. But um, we use sonar, and they use sonar. 83 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 1: But they've been using sonar a lot longer than we've 84 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 1: been using sonar. That's the point of this article. That 85 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 1: really is sort of it. Like they mean, dolphins have 86 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 1: been around way longer than we've been using sonar, and 87 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:46,279 Speaker 1: that's there their chief I mean, I guess it's sort 88 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:50,799 Speaker 1: of a communication device. Oh yeah, definitely is. They communicate, 89 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:53,920 Speaker 1: But it's also the way that they see I guess 90 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 1: it's the best way you could put it. They see 91 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 1: what they're there, well, they don't have ears. They see 92 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:02,480 Speaker 1: with we normally, what might think of these things that 93 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:05,159 Speaker 1: we might hear? Yeah, and that's why it's so tough 94 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:07,599 Speaker 1: to kind of wrap your head around what they're doing. 95 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 1: But if you think about it, if if our vision 96 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 1: is nothing but a bunch of electrical impulses stimulated by 97 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:17,480 Speaker 1: light that forms like a mental conception of an object 98 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 1: in our brain, that's exactly what dolphins are doing. But 99 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 1: they're doing it with sound. They're shooting out like a 100 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 1: kind of thing, and when it comes back, it tells 101 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: them about that object and it forms an impression in 102 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 1: their brain just like we do. Visually. They do orally, 103 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 1: but not through the mouth, I mean orally a a 104 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 1: really well put uh yeah, and supposedly they are so 105 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:44,599 Speaker 1: good at this kind of echolocation that they can tell 106 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:48,679 Speaker 1: the difference from fifty feet away between a BB gun 107 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:51,040 Speaker 1: pellet being dropped in the water and a kernel of 108 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 1: corn being dropped in the water. Yeah, which is again, 109 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 1: now we're starting to reach the point where it's like, Okay, 110 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 1: now I see why they're so much better than than 111 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:01,160 Speaker 1: our technology. Like, I can see that. I could if 112 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 1: you put a baby in a corner of a kernel 113 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:05,600 Speaker 1: of corn next to each other fifty ft away, I 114 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 1: can do that. I can see that. But if the 115 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 1: visibility underwater, sure could, all right, if the visibility underwater 116 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 1: is like two ft in front of your face, you 117 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 1: couldn't do that. A dolphin could, which is why they 118 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 1: come in handy, right. And so we talked about echo 119 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:25,039 Speaker 1: location with bats before. Uh, and I feel like with 120 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:28,279 Speaker 1: something else, but definitely with bats. That was one of 121 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:32,279 Speaker 1: our great long form episodes, probably whales Whales episode, Yeah, 122 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 1: probably so. But dolphins used the same process. Um, they 123 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 1: use their nasal passages and they make that little clicking 124 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 1: sound that you did so well. Uh, they send it 125 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:46,040 Speaker 1: to the forehead and that focuses the sound into like 126 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 1: a beam that shoots out into the water. Let's step one. Yeah, 127 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 1: and then what happens after that, well after that because 128 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 1: it's echo location, you know, it works just like with 129 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:59,600 Speaker 1: the bats. Things bounce off and come back to them. Uh. 130 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:02,040 Speaker 1: In case of bats, it's you know, mosquitoes and things 131 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:06,719 Speaker 1: like that, or or stupid humans with tennis rackets. Um, 132 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 1: it bounces back to the dolphin as that echo and 133 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 1: then they absorb that into their jaw like a tennis racket, 134 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 1: like it's oh no, poor dolphin, poor dolphin. Uh. And 135 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 1: this part is kind of gross sounding, but there is 136 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 1: a um what Jane McGrath referred to as a passage 137 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 1: of fat in the jaw, and that's just really just 138 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 1: a conductor that conducts the sound to the inner ear 139 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 1: of the dolphin, which and then all the nerve impulses 140 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 1: get going and then the brain starts firing. And like 141 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 1: you said, just like we see something, they can say, wow, 142 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 1: that thing is around like a bb or it's shaped 143 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 1: kernel shaped like a corn kernel, or where they go, hey, 144 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 1: it's a c mine that things are gonna blow. I better, 145 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 1: or that's a fish. I don't even need to go 146 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 1: back to the boat, right, I can eat so chuck, Um, 147 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 1: let's take an ad break and then we will come 148 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:03,559 Speaker 1: back and we'll talk about how not everybody's super hip 149 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 1: with the idea of using dolphins in war. Okay, we're back, 150 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 1: and like I said, not everybody is really happy that 151 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 1: the U. S. Navy is using dolphins. And actually, I 152 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 1: should say, real quick, Chuck, I want to fit this in. Um. Oh, 153 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 1: I shouldn't have even said I wanted to fit it in. 154 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 1: That's using up valuable time. So I the Navy started 155 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 1: using dolphins quite by accident. I guess in nineteen sixty 156 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:54,079 Speaker 1: there was a study where they started paying attention to dolphins. 157 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: They started to study them, like I just said, and um, 158 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 1: they were trying to figure out if they could learn 159 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 1: anything from offense to make torpedoes more I guess aqua 160 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 1: dynamic so that they could move through the water horse 161 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 1: you look to a dolphin, right, And they didn't learn 162 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 1: anything for torpedoes, but they were like, wait, these things 163 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:15,320 Speaker 1: are super smart and they have amazing echo location. Maybe 164 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 1: we should figure out something else for him. And they 165 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 1: put them into use. Um pretty shortly after that they 166 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 1: started training them. They said, they're pretty smart. But here's 167 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 1: the hitch. They don't realize they're surrounded by fish in 168 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 1: the ocean, right, They think they can only get them 169 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 1: from this stupid bucket on the boat. It's also possibly 170 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 1: just really lazy. Maybe maybe like if I had, like 171 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 1: I can go to a grocery store, but if I 172 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:37,960 Speaker 1: had if I was laying on the couch and someone 173 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:40,839 Speaker 1: dropped by and dropped food in my mouth, right exactly 174 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 1: all over it. Yeah, that's a really good analogy. I 175 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 1: get it now. So um, alright, First of all, we 176 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 1: we already said that they don't disarm them, and they 177 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 1: don't even get that close. So you might think that 178 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:56,959 Speaker 1: even animal rights activists would be like, hey, this is fine. 179 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 1: They're not getting close even if they did. Like I 180 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 1: said before, they're not going to explode, because they're meant 181 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 1: to explode when a ship hits it, not you know, 182 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:07,319 Speaker 1: any octopus kind of floating by, because that would defeat 183 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 1: the purpose of putting a mine in the ocean. Right. Uh. 184 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 1: So you would think like, all right, what's the harm then, 185 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 1: But it turns out there actually is quite a bit 186 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 1: of harm that could that could come about. Yeah, because 187 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 1: if you have a trained team of dolphins that you 188 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,679 Speaker 1: know you're using in one place, say the Atlantic, and 189 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 1: you suddenly need them over in the Pacific. You gotta 190 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 1: get them from point A to point B and there's 191 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:33,959 Speaker 1: there's Dolphins may not be acclimated to the Pacific, especially 192 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 1: if it's like the Northern Pacific and it's super cold 193 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 1: and they're used to the Middle Atlantic where it's relatively warm. Right, 194 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 1: That's one thing. Another thing is transporting them there alone 195 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 1: is an ordeal for the dolphins. Yeah. I mean, anyone 196 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 1: who's ever seen a whale or a dolphin or a 197 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 1: big shark like wrapped up in that that sling being 198 00:10:57,360 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 1: like lifted out of the ocean into a plane or 199 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:02,560 Speaker 1: something to a tank. It's just like it looks awful. 200 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 1: Nothing about that makes it look like that any of 201 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 1: those animals are psyched that that's happening. Right. Air travel 202 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 1: is designed for humans, and it's a nightmare for humans, right, 203 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:16,559 Speaker 1: Imagine what it's like for a dolphin. Yea, at some 204 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 1: points a lot of stress on their body and there 205 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 1: you know, it might sound hippie dippie, but on their 206 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 1: emotional well being, you know, on their earth spirit and 207 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 1: well we've talked about zukos. This it's a real thing. 208 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, for sure, for sure, And I would imagine 209 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:35,959 Speaker 1: that if you want to drive a dolphin insane, there 210 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 1: are worse ways to do that than putting it on 211 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 1: an airplane taking it for a ride about. And there 212 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 1: were um, there was actually uh, they were going to 213 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:48,680 Speaker 1: use some dolphins as part of a dolphin sea lion team. 214 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 1: Sea lion or seal. One of the two. Think we'll 215 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 1: sea lions do this as well. Then it was a 216 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 1: dolphins sea lion team. They actually have can There are 217 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 1: naval teams made up of sea lions and dolphins work 218 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 1: together that not only discover minds, they're also trained to 219 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 1: discover like underwater saboteurs, divers swimmers who aren't supposed to 220 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 1: be there that want to like blow up a military station. 221 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 1: And the dolphin will go find the guy, go tell 222 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 1: the sea lion. The sea lion goes and puts an 223 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 1: ankle cuff on the swimmers shut up, I'm not kidding, 224 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 1: and they're tethered to a boat now like so the 225 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 1: sea lion goes and arrests the guy and then they 226 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 1: both go tell the navy that you got you got 227 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 1: someone on the line. So the dolphins doing like some 228 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 1: trick in front of the guy and he's like, wow, 229 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:35,960 Speaker 1: I mean, I know I'm supposed to plant this bomb, 230 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 1: but that's pretty neat looking. And then he looks down 231 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 1: and he's like, oh again dolphins and then the sea 232 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 1: lion and the dolphin high five. Yeah, but that's so. 233 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 1: They were going to set up a patrol in the 234 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 1: in Puget Sound in Washington State. There's an army port there, 235 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 1: and uh, they were going to set up patrols, and 236 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 1: the I think some animal rights group said nope, not 237 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 1: on our watch, and to raise public awareness, they started 238 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 1: knitting sweaters for the dolphins. We're going to be transported 239 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 1: to the to the cold water. And it worked for 240 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 1: a little while. I think that that they have those 241 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:14,719 Speaker 1: things now, yeah, I'm sure there's a work around. So 242 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:18,959 Speaker 1: that's that is dolphins disarming minds, which they don't actually do. 243 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 1: Correct the dolphins find the minds and h and many 244 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:27,680 Speaker 1: many people are still not too supportive of that, right, yeah, 245 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 1: because I mean they're innocence and they have no idea 246 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:32,680 Speaker 1: what the wars, what's going on with the war. You know, 247 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:34,440 Speaker 1: they don't know what they're being used for. It's just 248 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 1: it's a moral quandary for sure. Yeah. The one thing 249 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 1: I couldn't find really quick before we go is what 250 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:44,840 Speaker 1: minds are disguised as. One thing I saw. The only 251 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 1: thing I saw was that they can be disguised to 252 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 1: appear like ripples in the water. And I'm like, how 253 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:53,319 Speaker 1: would you do that? And then I realized, oh, i'm 254 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 1: sonar it would look like a ripple in the water. 255 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 1: So I think they were talking about disguising them. I'm 256 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:01,320 Speaker 1: sure they do visually as well, but I think mostly 257 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 1: on sonars how they try to disguise on interesting. Yeah, 258 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 1: I would love to meet the person who's like, I 259 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:12,559 Speaker 1: know how to disguise the mind as a ripple in water. Yeah, 260 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 1: that makes more sense. I was thinking like they would 261 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 1: make it look like a big floating kelp mass. Yeah, 262 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 1: so was I at first. And they might, but I 263 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 1: couldn't find anything like that. I was the only thing 264 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 1: for him. Very nice. Uh. Well, if you want to 265 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 1: know more about dolphins disarming sea mines, hang around in 266 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 1: the sea. See what happens. Uh, And in the meantime, 267 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 1: get in touch with us. You can send us an 268 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 1: email to Stuff Podcast at how Stuff works dot com.