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Speaker 1: That must mean one thing. David Hellman, it's Draft week
Speaker 1: around the Star in Frisco, and it feels like draft
Speaker 1: week because well, we've got a show every single week
Speaker 1: here on the Draft Show. All right, excuse me, every
Speaker 1: single day on the Draft Show. I got it right
Speaker 1: that time. But we are going to do our first
Speaker 1: round mock draft today with David Hellman, Bucky Brooks, Jeff
Speaker 1: cavanall gentlemen. It does feel like draft week, and Bucky,
Speaker 1: you're not in studio, which kind of surprises me for
Speaker 1: a little bit because we finally get to the week
Speaker 1: of and you head back home for a little bit. Yeah,
Speaker 1: head back home. Got everything worked out with my home
Speaker 1: cam and that stuff, so I can do everything at
Speaker 1: the house. So yeah, I'm excited. There's a lot going
Speaker 1: on and a lot to talk about when it comes
Speaker 1: to their draft, and we've got a lot of rumors
Speaker 1: rolling around that third pick at the forty nine ers
Speaker 1: and who they may be taking quarterback wise. Jeff, I
Speaker 1: know you hate drafting or even talking about quarterbacks, but
Speaker 1: what do you think about the recent news about Mac
Speaker 1: Jones or Trey Lance, the two choices that have been
Speaker 1: narrowed down to San Francisco at three. Because you're the
Speaker 1: one that's gonna have to make that pick today, so
Speaker 1: thinking that they're gonna pick Trey Lance. So we didn't
Speaker 1: hear you on the show, but basically what Jeff just
Speaker 1: said is that he doesn't believe that Mac Jones will
Speaker 1: be the pick. He thinks it's going to be Trey Lance.
Speaker 1: We'll see exactly. Oh there he is, there, he is back.
Speaker 1: How about that? I didn't the mute button earlier for
Speaker 1: the show for no reason. Yeah, I'm sitting here having
Speaker 1: like a minor panic attack. Matt Jones, So just making
Speaker 1: Tray Lance. We'll move on with third day. There we go, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm just like, oh my god, does my equipment not work?
Speaker 1: Why can't I hear, Jeff, it makes me feel better. No,
Speaker 1: we are good to go. I know Chris Bean was
Speaker 1: definitely panicking in the back as he does a great
Speaker 1: job getting us back up and running. Thanks for unmuting yourself,
Speaker 1: mister Kavanaugh. It'll never be Chris's fault. Chris is amazing.
Speaker 1: I screw up. I guarantee you it's me. It's a
Speaker 1: good point, Chris. That is a good point. Okay. So
Speaker 1: I want to outline our segments here of our mock draft.
Speaker 1: We're gonna go one through thirty two today and then
Speaker 1: tomorrow the other three hosts of the draft show will conclude.
Speaker 1: We'll go through the second round. We'll go all the
Speaker 1: way through the first an sac rounds in our mock
Speaker 1: drafts this year. So starting things off, we're gonna do
Speaker 1: the top nine. And if we've got a full screen
Speaker 1: for this, mister Chris Beam, here's the draft order that
Speaker 1: we will go to. Now, trades are allowed. You can
Speaker 1: only trade the picks, though, if you hold the picks yourself,
Speaker 1: or if the person holding that pick agrees to the trade.
Speaker 1: If a trade is made between two different hosts, they
Speaker 1: will pick in the own spots following the trade. There
Speaker 1: is that's the there we go. There's the right order
Speaker 1: one through nine, So it goes Bucky, Dave, Jeff, Me,
Speaker 1: and we'll go around that order all the way through
Speaker 1: the first thirty two picks. So the Jacksonville Jaguars, as
Speaker 1: they are in the NFL Draft, actually are on the
Speaker 1: clock with Bucky Brooks half a feeling. I know who
Speaker 1: you're gonna pick here, Bucky? Are you gonna go hot
Speaker 1: on a limit all or is you gonna take who
Speaker 1: we think you will? Know? This is? This is easy,
Speaker 1: this is easy. We're gonna take Trevor Launch for the
Speaker 1: number one overall pick as the Jaguars franchise quarterback. We
Speaker 1: got Urban Meyer. He came out of retirement just to
Speaker 1: coach his player, and so this is a combination to
Speaker 1: give jackson go back on track. So Dave, you now
Speaker 1: are up with the Jets at number two. This one
Speaker 1: also not necessarily a huge surprise. Well, I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: take up too much time. I just want to say
Speaker 1: I think it's funny the Jets have avoided all of
Speaker 1: the scrutiny that the forty nine ers are getting, Like
Speaker 1: nobody's questioning Zach Wilson at two, even though I think
Speaker 1: it's at least worth a conversation. Sure, but everybody's just
Speaker 1: kind of like, yeah, he's Mormon, Mahomes, He's going number two,
Speaker 1: and like, okay, cool. I think that's what's going to happen.
Speaker 1: But I don't know if it's that clear cut that
Speaker 1: he's that much better than I'm thinking of justin Fields.
Speaker 1: But even if you like Trey Lance, but regardless, I
Speaker 1: think that's who they're gonna take. I think that's the pick.
Speaker 1: Zach Wilson to the Jets. Have fun up there with
Speaker 1: that organization. There you go going up to the Jets,
Speaker 1: And that is a good point to kind of talk
Speaker 1: about a little bit here is I feel like, Jeff,
Speaker 1: let's go ahead and go through your pick, because I
Speaker 1: feel like what you've said earlier will kind of constitute
Speaker 1: what I'm about to say. But go and go your
Speaker 1: pick San Francisco forty nine ers or on the clock
Speaker 1: at pick number three. Overall, well, we're not picking mac Jones.
Speaker 1: So now the question is do I want them to
Speaker 1: do the right thing or am I trying to be right?
Speaker 1: So I'll try to be right, and I'll say we're
Speaker 1: gonna take Trey Lance and I'll put in this prediction
Speaker 1: that we're going to regret it, because that means we're
Speaker 1: not going to get Justin Fields. And Bill Belichick at
Speaker 1: some point is going to get Justin Fields, and when
Speaker 1: they win four more or five more Super Bowls, it's
Speaker 1: going to be all of our faults, including you, Kyle Shanahan,
Speaker 1: Trey Lance. So okay, I do want to just like
Speaker 1: what Dave just said specifically about Zack Wilson and Justin
Speaker 1: Fields and how there may not be that big of
Speaker 1: a gap even for those who like Zach Wilson. But Jeff,
Speaker 1: you pick Trey Lance here, Why do you think that's
Speaker 1: where San Francisco is gonna go? Is that just based
Speaker 1: on reports or is that just on the fit so far?
Speaker 1: Just based on reports? I mean, if I were picking,
Speaker 1: if you were really gonna let me make that pick,
Speaker 1: I would pick Justin Fields. But I do think the
Speaker 1: weird thing about all the mac Jones talk is like,
Speaker 1: oh man, he is such a system fit, and that's
Speaker 1: just made up because he's not. The system fit for
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan would be have you been under center? Have
Speaker 1: you done a bunch of boot action? Whereas mac Jones
Speaker 1: is shotgun RPO. So Trey Lance is actually the best
Speaker 1: fit for the Kyle Shanahan offense. So that, along with
Speaker 1: the Rumaruski's makes me okay with making it Trey Lance.
Speaker 1: I think that just makes so much more sense to
Speaker 1: because it fits the whole assuming they're not going to
Speaker 1: deal to Jimmy Garoppolo, which maybe they will, but Trey
Speaker 1: Lance is like the guy of all of these guys,
Speaker 1: He's the one that you would say might need the
Speaker 1: red shirt year and that just makes so much sense
Speaker 1: with what they already have in Jimmy. But I hope
Speaker 1: it's not Mac Jones, but it just feels like it
Speaker 1: will be. You still think it. You're kind of leaning
Speaker 1: that direction. That's where they would be. Like every single
Speaker 1: person that covers this for a living thinks it's going
Speaker 1: to be Mac Jones. And maybe it's just the greatest
Speaker 1: smokes green of all time on San Francisco's part, but
Speaker 1: I still think it is. It's a great smoke screen.
Speaker 1: Good for them if it is. Yeah, because what's happening
Speaker 1: here is I should change it back. I should just
Speaker 1: say justin fields, because what's happening is they're pretending they
Speaker 1: like Mac and Trey Lands, and then they're gonna pick
Speaker 1: the Jets right so that the Jets won't rethink it,
Speaker 1: because if they just said Fields all along, the Jets
Speaker 1: would be like, man, they're really confident about who they're picking.
Speaker 1: We look back over this, are we sure we're doing
Speaker 1: the right thing? Or should we need picking Fields? Great
Speaker 1: and smoke screen, but I'm still going to Lands. I
Speaker 1: think this. I think this is the most fascinating pick
Speaker 1: that I've been associated with, like the forty nine ers
Speaker 1: and whoever they pick at a quarterback, because I think
Speaker 1: if we go back in the fall, there was not
Speaker 1: one person who had Mac Jones as a first round
Speaker 1: pickpe right, and then to think that he is now
Speaker 1: not only a first round pick, but a top five pick.
Speaker 1: And I just had this conversation, what's the difference in
Speaker 1: Mac Jones and Daniel Jones? Like if we really think
Speaker 1: about this, like what is the real difference between the two?
Speaker 1: If we had put Daniel Jones at Alabama as opposed
Speaker 1: to playing a dude, like, we'll would be celebrating him
Speaker 1: as if he was that because remember all the consternation
Speaker 1: to the new against guy when they took Daniel Jones,
Speaker 1: Like Daniel Jones is more athletic, he's bigger, he's faster.
Speaker 1: The arm is comparable, if not better. What does Mac
Speaker 1: Jones do better than Daniel Jones? And just think about
Speaker 1: all the outrage that we have over Daniel Jones and
Speaker 1: how we view him. I just don't understand why there
Speaker 1: are some that celebrate Mac Jones because to me, I
Speaker 1: would say, he's just a guy at the position. I'm
Speaker 1: with you, completely, man, I don't I mean, and I
Speaker 1: think Mac Jones is good. I think because quarterbacks get overdrafted,
Speaker 1: he's worth a first round pick, but top top five
Speaker 1: is so steep to me, and I just whatever, whatever
Speaker 1: you say, and I felt. I remember, right after the
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl, I asked a question on the Draft Show,
Speaker 1: and I think I can't remember which group it was
Speaker 1: that I asked this question too, but I was laughed
Speaker 1: at when I asked it. It's Mac Jones into top
Speaker 1: ten consideration. My thought process at the time was Carolina
Speaker 1: and Matt Rule and the way that they kind of
Speaker 1: fell in love with Matt Jones in Mobile. But now
Speaker 1: we're talking about three and once again that could still
Speaker 1: not happen. It may not happen because there's so many
Speaker 1: things that are going into this the storyline that actually
Speaker 1: will or will not work out. I don't know. I
Speaker 1: still think it's a smokescreen. I don't necessarily think he's
Speaker 1: a top ten quarterback, and you can see that just
Speaker 1: with the way that we think about it. Overall, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna have a the way Kavanaugh freaked out about the
Speaker 1: cd LAMB pick. I'm gonna do that if they don't
Speaker 1: pick mac Jones. I'm gonna be like, I'm just like
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan, you dastardly dude, like you just absolute badass,
Speaker 1: just fulled the whole league chest to everybody all the
Speaker 1: way through. Yeah. No, that's a good point. Now we've
Speaker 1: gotten through the top three picks, they have gone as well.
Speaker 1: I guess if you want to go in March Madness terms,
Speaker 1: it's been chalked so far. Trevor Lawrence, Zach Wilson, Trey
Speaker 1: Lance in the top three. I'm gonna I'm the one
Speaker 1: picking the Falcon's selection here at four, and this is
Speaker 1: where things get fun. Not so fun though, for David Hellman.
Speaker 1: Kyle Pitts tight End of Florida goes number four overall.
Speaker 1: The Calmo's dream goes away. But I think that pairing
Speaker 1: with Pitts along with Calvin Ridley and Julio Jones is
Speaker 1: just fantastic overall. How did Beam already type that in
Speaker 1: so quick? That was fantastic? He just knows that that's
Speaker 1: gonna because it's very good. It's a smart choice on
Speaker 1: the part exactly. So okay, Bucky, You're up next with
Speaker 1: Cincinnati after Pitts is off the board. This is a
Speaker 1: tough one. This is a tough one if you're to
Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bengals, because right now you're trying to figure out,
Speaker 1: I have Joe Burrow and how can I accelerate his development?
Speaker 1: Do I take the pass protector and Piney Seul Rashauna Slider,
Speaker 1: or do I take the playmaker in Jamar Chase. I
Speaker 1: got the connection in the synergy, I got them doing
Speaker 1: the gritty and all that other stuff, and the buyer.
Speaker 1: This is tough. This is tough for me because and
Speaker 1: Norn the Bengals, the beings that gonna take Piney Seul,
Speaker 1: because the best player in the franchise history is Anthony Munios.
Speaker 1: And I just think owner Mike Brown is going to
Speaker 1: be like, hey, Piney Seul is gonna give us that
Speaker 1: hallmarked at long term left to Alcos. I'm gonna take
Speaker 1: Piney Seuil at five. Thank you so much, Bucky, Thank
Speaker 1: you for doing the right thing and protecting my man. Hey,
Speaker 1: would I love would I love to watch Joe Burrow
Speaker 1: keep throwing touchdowns to Jamar Chase, of course, but will
Speaker 1: it matter who his receivers are if he gets killed
Speaker 1: in the pocket like he did last year? No, So
Speaker 1: good for you for making the right pick. I think
Speaker 1: these picks really seem like they go in tandem five
Speaker 1: and six. I'm picking six for the Dolphins, and I
Speaker 1: really think I think the Dolphins will just pick whoever
Speaker 1: Cincinnati does. Yeah, exactly, like if Piney Seuil is sitting
Speaker 1: there for you at six. The Dolphins drafted Austin Jackson
Speaker 1: last year, But whatever, just draft another one, move one
Speaker 1: of them to right tackle, you know, protect to a
Speaker 1: Tonga Valoa. Again, protecting your quarterback is way more important
Speaker 1: than who's throwing too, in my opinions. But if Sewel's gone,
Speaker 1: then I'll just take Jamar Chase and you get arguably
Speaker 1: the best receiver in the draft to work with tah
Speaker 1: And I mean he needs he needs weapons as well.
Speaker 1: It's very similar to Burrows situations, So pencil mean for
Speaker 1: Jamar Chase and I don't necessarily disagree with that that
Speaker 1: reasoning there, Jeff. It kind of puts you in a
Speaker 1: situation with the Lions at seven where the top pass
Speaker 1: catchers off the board, the top offensive tackles off the board,
Speaker 1: and then I've been there's Kyle Pitts who was off
Speaker 1: the board previously as well. So you're in a situation
Speaker 1: here where you could potentially trade out of seven, or
Speaker 1: you could really kind of go anywhere with Detroit. But
Speaker 1: I like the picks that both Bucky and Dave just made. Jeff,
Speaker 1: you're on the clock with Detroit. Well, the beauty of
Speaker 1: this man is that Detroit lost Marvin Jones and Kenny Golladay,
Speaker 1: Tyro Williams and Burshad Perriman is not enough to replace that.
Speaker 1: They lost Jared Davis the linebacker to the Jets, so
Speaker 1: Michael Parsons can be in play. But what I'm gonna
Speaker 1: do is I'm going to trade with myself. I hope
Speaker 1: Nice you get no say, because they're both my teams
Speaker 1: in the first round, New England. That's going to give
Speaker 1: up fifteen forty six and a two next year. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's quarterback Techs fifteen forty six. That kind of works
Speaker 1: on the chart. We're gonna add in next year's two
Speaker 1: is our quarterback Techs. And the New England Patriots select
Speaker 1: Justin Fields and went all the Super Bowls. So you
Speaker 1: were really foreshadowing your ownly absal making process there earlier. Okay,
Speaker 1: I like that, and I hadn't really thought about it.
Speaker 1: I was gonna just take Jalin Waddle, but then I
Speaker 1: was like, no, forget that. If I'm New England, I'm
Speaker 1: trying to get up there and get Justin Fields. He's
Speaker 1: available at seven, and if you're the Lions, you pick
Speaker 1: up an extra first or an extra top one hundred pick.
Speaker 1: You still stay just at fifteen. You go from seven
Speaker 1: to fifteen and you pick up a second round or
Speaker 1: next year. So New England comes up trades with Detroit
Speaker 1: and takes at number seven pick, and you know that
Speaker 1: that takes away who I was going to pick with
Speaker 1: Carolina at eight, Jeff, because I was going to go
Speaker 1: Justine Fields if if he was not there on the boards.
Speaker 1: But that's I think that's a great way to put it. Though,
Speaker 1: because if you're New England and Carolina is another team
Speaker 1: that's a needy quarterback team right there sitting at eight,
Speaker 1: why not go up and trade some premium picks to
Speaker 1: get into that. I actually, while I was researching my
Speaker 1: own sorry go ahead, buck, Oh no, no, I was
Speaker 1: just saying, you don't think the Panthers are committed to
Speaker 1: mighty Sam Donald did not quite. I have some hesitation.
Speaker 1: I just didn't be when I was researching what I
Speaker 1: wanted to do in this mock. Peter King just put
Speaker 1: out his only mock of the year like this morning,
Speaker 1: and he made an interesting point that San Francisco paid
Speaker 1: so much to get where they are that I wonder,
Speaker 1: or he wonders, I should say how it's going to
Speaker 1: affect the market and will the prices in the top
Speaker 1: ten be so steep that it prevents trades from happening.
Speaker 1: But what Jeff just listed off seems like pretty decent
Speaker 1: compensation to me. I mean, that's a decent haul in
Speaker 1: this draft as well as something in next year's drafts.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's possible, but I do wonder
Speaker 1: about that, like I wonder, you know, with they're already
Speaker 1: being three trades in the top ten before the draft
Speaker 1: has even happened, Like, how active is it going to be?
Speaker 1: But I do think that makes sense for sure. Now
Speaker 1: I'm scrambling as the Carolina Panthers here at eight to
Speaker 1: try and find I mean, come on, what are you
Speaker 1: You're about to do something that I that I hate.
Speaker 1: I know you are earlier. Come on, I'm gonna I
Speaker 1: was thinking here, So you need offensive line and Caroline.
Speaker 1: That's That's what I'm deciding between, is opposite line pass catcher,
Speaker 1: and then mac Jones just because, just just because that's
Speaker 1: what I think Carolina would do. I think Carolina would
Speaker 1: be interested in mac Jones at eight. If he's there
Speaker 1: and he's available, I'm gonna pick an armac and ar
Speaker 1: mock mac Jones is going tomorrow. Yeah, I think if
Speaker 1: we were trying to do our own we would. Yeah,
Speaker 1: damn mac Jones is still available at pick forty four.
Speaker 1: Who wants to call in a trade up? Yeah, Jalen Wattle,
Speaker 1: wide receiver out of Alabama. We're gonna go best player available. No,
Speaker 1: they're not gonna do that. There's no way they do.
Speaker 1: The make up your damn mind. Tax Jones is witchy Washy,
Speaker 1: It'll be Mac Jones Alabama. Are you handing the card? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I had handed the car I think Carolina is gonna
Speaker 1: pick Jones. I think Caroline is gonna pick Mac Jones
Speaker 1: at aid. If I were picking, I would pick Jaalen
Speaker 1: Wattle because he's the best player on my board. As
Speaker 1: soon as Bucky goes on the clock with Denver, Kyle's
Speaker 1: gonna be like, wait, wait, wait, Carolina is gonna do this. No, no,
Speaker 1: it's Mac Jones. I've talked in the card. Well, cowboy fans,
Speaker 1: I just want you to know that Rashawn Slater is
Speaker 1: on his way to number ten, and Dave is gonna
Speaker 1: have a tough decision on his hands. I want to,
Speaker 1: which I don't want to. I don't want he is
Speaker 1: going to have a tough decision on his hands because
Speaker 1: he's not only gonna have a Rashaun Slater, oh boy,
Speaker 1: he's gonna have his choice of cornerbacks and all of
Speaker 1: that sitting there at ten. Because as the Broncos, I
Speaker 1: cannot let this draft go where we have ten offensive players.
Speaker 1: It hasn't been done in like a million years. So
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take Michael Parsons. He's that linebacker for the
Speaker 1: Broncos because they need a playmaker in Vic Fangio is
Speaker 1: not This is I mean, other than Morrison's at nine,
Speaker 1: other than Kyle Pitt's falling, which none of us think
Speaker 1: will happen. This is a dream scenario. This is perfect
Speaker 1: because not only do I have my choice of the
Speaker 1: guys that I want, but the guy that none of
Speaker 1: us want, Michael Parsons, is off the board. So that
Speaker 1: just takes the stress out of it a little bit.
Speaker 1: Um I do. I wanted to say, I really, I
Speaker 1: this is just my opinion. But like if Carolina gets
Speaker 1: wiped out the way that they just kind of did,
Speaker 1: I won't be surprised if they draft Patrick's or Tan
Speaker 1: That's what I thought some thought too, That's what I
Speaker 1: thought you were gonna do because their cornerback situation is
Speaker 1: IF's not based and you know, he's arguably the best
Speaker 1: defensive player in the draft regardless. So I'm making I
Speaker 1: am making the Cowboys decision for everybody here is that
Speaker 1: what's happening. This is exactly what's happening. But we're gonna
Speaker 1: do it after the break. Oh, We're gonna do it
Speaker 1: after the break. We're gonna take our first break. You're
Speaker 1: gonna put everybody on that. Really that was good? Right,
Speaker 1: I'm coming over there. I know where you lose. Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, we're gonna take our first break when we
Speaker 1: come back. David Hellman puts the fate of the Dallas
Speaker 1: Cowboys first round pick on is back when we return
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Speaker 1: we've made you wait through a break, We've made you
Speaker 1: wait through a live read, and well you've had some
Speaker 1: suggestions mister David Helmet on what you should do with
Speaker 1: the top ten pick for the Dallas Cowboys, and a
Speaker 1: lot of them are trade down j C. Horn. I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna say the word that was in between j
Speaker 1: C and Horn there and then pretty much close, but yeah,
Speaker 1: so what are you doing at ten for the Dallas Cowboys?
Speaker 1: Pretty much a dream scenario with the exception of Kyle
Speaker 1: Pitts off them. This is as close to a dream
Speaker 1: scenario as it gets. And honestly, I saw this in
Speaker 1: a mock this morning. If Horn and Certan are really
Speaker 1: both available here, if somebody wanted to come up, you know,
Speaker 1: I let the mock. I saw at the Chargers coming
Speaker 1: up from thirteen and to get to get an offensive tackle,
Speaker 1: which hey, Rashaan's later sitting there, so it makes sense.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna get cute. I'm just gonna do what
Speaker 1: I think is smart and logical and likely, and you know,
Speaker 1: Rashaan Slater is a great player. Jeff, you can get
Speaker 1: mad at me if you want to, I will get
Speaker 1: mad at you. I think I think we are I
Speaker 1: don't want to get mad at you because I pick
Speaker 1: at eleven. So it's fine. I think we're devaluing, like
Speaker 1: these are two really good cornerbacks, and I feel like
Speaker 1: we've been talking about him so long. I think people
Speaker 1: are just bored, and so I don't know, there's just
Speaker 1: like this undercurrent of people suggesting that these guys wouldn't
Speaker 1: be worth that pick, and I definitely don't think that's true.
Speaker 1: And I don't think Rashaan Slater is so much better
Speaker 1: that you just have to do it like Kyle Pitts,
Speaker 1: Like you draft Kyle Pitts because he's that much better
Speaker 1: than what else is available to you. Kyle Pitts is gone,
Speaker 1: and I think it comes down to Horn and Certan.
Speaker 1: The Cowboys don't seem to have a consensus yet. That's
Speaker 1: what Stephen Jones told Jeff on the radio last week.
Speaker 1: We'll see how that goes. But if I'm making the pick,
Speaker 1: I'm turning in the card for patrick's ertan the second
Speaker 1: out of Alabama. I think he's he's already mate player.
Speaker 1: He's got a high super high floor. He's like he's
Speaker 1: ready to go. Like there's no there's no projecting with
Speaker 1: this guy, Like you're not, like, well, if he does
Speaker 1: this and he does that, he could be a good player.
Speaker 1: Like no, he's just ready to go. And I don't
Speaker 1: know if he'll ever be Charles Woodson, but he'll be
Speaker 1: a good starting cornerback in the league for a long
Speaker 1: time in my opinion. So I'm drafting him and I
Speaker 1: don't feel bad about it. Jeff, can't make me feel
Speaker 1: bad about it. Got a hot floor. Go to a
Speaker 1: hot floor. Hot floor. There you go. See. Bucky likes iteling.
Speaker 1: No ceilings are terrifying, Jeff. And I mean, if you
Speaker 1: can get it, great, but give me the give me
Speaker 1: the high floor, give me the one that I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna regret, and that's Patrick Surtanner. I'm here for fun.
Speaker 1: I'm here for pass interference over the field. Some flags
Speaker 1: get thrown, Let's have fun. Jeff just wants somebody to
Speaker 1: yell at on the radio after the Cowboys have a
Speaker 1: late game pass interference penalty. That's what he wants, will
Speaker 1: not There's no chance I would yell at Jason, which
Speaker 1: because I think he likes makes it up a little
Speaker 1: bit and I'm not built like that anymore. I just
Speaker 1: want to throw out I really, I do think it
Speaker 1: could go either way. You know, Brian has been saying
Speaker 1: for a week or so that it seems like there's
Speaker 1: a split in the organization about who is cornerback one,
Speaker 1: and we'll find out if they get to make that pick,
Speaker 1: because it seems at least plausible that they'll both be available.
Speaker 1: But if it's me making the pick, I like Certain
Speaker 1: a little bit more. Yeah, I do think there is
Speaker 1: now question if you do Patrick Curtain here, is he
Speaker 1: the best corner on your roster right now? Yeah? Do
Speaker 1: you think so? Yes? By how much of a margin? Um? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Like significant significant market? Which margin thirteen? Okay, And that's
Speaker 1: why I like, you don't want a draft for need,
Speaker 1: but that this pick just makes too much sense, and
Speaker 1: I think Certain is good enough to be worth it.
Speaker 1: Like you're not reaching, You're drafting a guy who's worthy
Speaker 1: of being a top ten pick to address a big need.
Speaker 1: And that's that's why a cornerback has been slotted into
Speaker 1: this spot since January because it just makes too much sense.
Speaker 1: The way that you've explained this pick to me is
Speaker 1: just straight poetic from yours part. I mean, I've I've been,
Speaker 1: like you said, I've been with the rest of a
Speaker 1: lot of Cowboys Nation where I'm a little bored of
Speaker 1: talking about Patrick Utan. But the way that you kind
Speaker 1: of talked about it and explained it to me makes
Speaker 1: me more excited about that. We will get you, will
Speaker 1: get you your tackle on day three or days Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just need we'll get you your tackle on day two. Okay,
Speaker 1: as long as you promised me we'll get a tackle,
Speaker 1: all right. Who's going to the NFC's first team picking
Speaker 1: right after the Cowboys, Well it's those hated New York
Speaker 1: Football Giants, Jeff Kavanaugh. Who are the Cowboys gonna have
Speaker 1: to slow down? Well, I will tell you that this
Speaker 1: trip it won't be about who they have to slow down.
Speaker 1: This draft has been a little bit unexpected and that
Speaker 1: I didn't think Jaalen Waddle would be an option for
Speaker 1: the Giants, But I'm also not going to take him.
Speaker 1: They have fixed up their cornerbacks and allegedly with the
Speaker 1: Dorian Jackson any of Brad Berry. They could absolutely use
Speaker 1: a wide receiver. But I think of when Will Hernandez
Speaker 1: got hurt and Lemieux came in for him and he
Speaker 1: was awful, But they thought that that awful was good
Speaker 1: enough to keep Will Hernandez on the bench even when
Speaker 1: he was healthy. Their offensive line, I think, is a
Speaker 1: train wreck. And if you let one of the to
Speaker 1: me five or six best players in the draft make
Speaker 1: it to number eleven, Rashawn Slater is going to the Giants.
Speaker 1: Only other names I would have considered there was with
Speaker 1: their needs, Waddle and a Zizajulari. But we are going Slater.
Speaker 1: I don't think that's a bad pick. I love that pick.
Speaker 1: And ill I mean, and people offensive lineman aren't sexy, Like,
Speaker 1: that's a wonderful pick. You think about Zach Martin and
Speaker 1: the impact that he had, But I'd way rather deal
Speaker 1: with her Shawn's later than Jalen Waddle. Yeah, that's fine
Speaker 1: with me. Well guess what, Well, don't worry, Wat'll Probay
Speaker 1: go next. Yeah, the Eagles are Eagles are picking next,
Speaker 1: and I have that pick. I would love to just
Speaker 1: pick Gregory Rousseau and just ride with it. Called that
Speaker 1: would be fun for the for the Eagles, now for
Speaker 1: all of us, there's no way that they look at
Speaker 1: Jalen Waddle, look at their receiving corps and say, yeah,
Speaker 1: we'll pass, We'll go elsewhere. They're gonna pick Jalen Waddle.
Speaker 1: As much as I hate it, that's the pick that
Speaker 1: they're going to turn in. Jalen Waddle wide receiver. Alabama
Speaker 1: will be in the division and he will be a
Speaker 1: problem for the next five years. That's a bummer. It's
Speaker 1: a huge bummer. It happens, all right, Bucky, Right, you
Speaker 1: got certain you can lock him down. That's true, that's
Speaker 1: the hope, all right. So we haven't sounded like some
Speaker 1: started cheek from chip there a little bit. I know,
Speaker 1: I got the I'm the la charges I got Justin Herbert,
Speaker 1: the wonder boy at quarterback to try. Why didn't you
Speaker 1: trade up with him, Bucky? He wanted you to go
Speaker 1: get Seul. He wanted you to go get him. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: there's some people that out west to feel like this kid,
Speaker 1: Elijah bar Tucky is better than Seul. Let's go. He
Speaker 1: feared over and over again. So I'm gonna trust my
Speaker 1: guys on the West coast and I'm gonna take Elijah
Speaker 1: Vera Tucker with the charges at thirteen. Crap think according
Speaker 1: according to how I watch these players, I do think
Speaker 1: it's a three man group at the top with Sewell's
Speaker 1: Slater and Vera Tucker. I don't think he belongs in
Speaker 1: the conversation with whoever's next. I think he belongs with
Speaker 1: the top two. So he's a bawler. So does anybody?
Speaker 1: Does anybody want pick fourteen? Because Bucky just took my
Speaker 1: Vikings guy right out from underneath me, and I think
Speaker 1: like Elijah has something to holster. Yes, I'm ready. I'm
Speaker 1: ready to pivot pick This is gonna be the easiest
Speaker 1: tree to I'm ready to pivot. I'm just asking if
Speaker 1: anybody wants it. I'm I'm ready to pivot. Don't you
Speaker 1: worry about that. But I really think um Varia Tucker
Speaker 1: is just one of those guys and you can't you
Speaker 1: can't trust it completely. But he's been linked to the
Speaker 1: Vikings so much like it just seems very likely to
Speaker 1: me that the Vikings covet this guy based on the
Speaker 1: amount of smoke, which it's a real bummer that he
Speaker 1: just got stolen right out from under me like that,
Speaker 1: thanks Bucky, which you could the phone the fall line
Speaker 1: was open. Oh I don't want Bucky. I don't trade it.
Speaker 1: David Hellman doesn't trade up, get out of here. We
Speaker 1: want players, no trading, want picks. We want picks. But
Speaker 1: I think this I'm trying to see if any of
Speaker 1: my teams would want to come up. It's edge rushing
Speaker 1: and offensive tackle. Like the Vikings don't have a left tackle,
Speaker 1: they don't have a defensive end to pair with Daniel Hunter,
Speaker 1: and so if they can't trade out of this picket,
Speaker 1: I think it puts him in a situation where they say,
Speaker 1: do we like Christian Derrisau enough to draft him here
Speaker 1: even though we wanted Tucker, Or do we get the
Speaker 1: best edge rusher on our board in an edge rushing
Speaker 1: class that we don't love. And that's that's tricky to me,
Speaker 1: and assuming assuming the phone doesn't ring, assuming the phone
Speaker 1: doesn't ring, I this is just me and Mike Zimmer
Speaker 1: is a d offensive minded coach. So maybe I'm wrong,
Speaker 1: but I think I just take Christian Derressaw and say,
Speaker 1: maybe this isn't the guy we wanted, but he's a
Speaker 1: better player than the ad dressing options. So that's what if.
Speaker 1: What if Washington and knew that you were thinking that?
Speaker 1: And once I realized that you were going to make
Speaker 1: that pick, I was kind of interested in coming up
Speaker 1: for Christians. I mean, what are you what are you
Speaker 1: giving me? What are you giving me? Well, you were
Speaker 1: desperate trade, so I was thinking, like nineteen and a seven. Oh,
Speaker 1: get the hell out. I just wanted out. I need it.
Speaker 1: I need it too. I need it to Oh whatever
Speaker 1: you're too, I mean, you're all right, fine, then I'll
Speaker 1: just I'll just take the guy that you want. I
Speaker 1: just think. I mean, I'd rather draft him for the
Speaker 1: guy who got on the clock and just started screaming,
Speaker 1: does anyone want this? I was that's called thinking. That's
Speaker 1: called thinking out loud. My guy, like, I can't think
Speaker 1: that would be bad. That would be bad radio if
Speaker 1: I just thought it all in my head. That's so funny. Okay.
Speaker 1: So now, Jeff, now that your failed trade attempt is
Speaker 1: now falling completely through the floor, your original trade attempt
Speaker 1: sent Detroit back to fifteen. What are the Lions thinking
Speaker 1: after they traded their fifteenth pick forty sixth pick in
Speaker 1: their twenty twenty two second up or excuse me they
Speaker 1: received that from the Patriots to go back down to fifteen. Well,
Speaker 1: we here in Detroit are stunned. And because I did
Speaker 1: actual prep for this show, which is the first time
Speaker 1: I've done that since two thousand and thirteen was the
Speaker 1: last time I've prepped for a show. And we were
Speaker 1: thinking at seven do we want Jalen Waddle, Davante Smith
Speaker 1: or Jamar Chase and fourteen names are gone and DeVante
Speaker 1: Smith is not gone. So in Detroit, we are just
Speaker 1: going to count our blessings and we are going to
Speaker 1: take DeVante Smith, Alabama wide receiver. Bring your Heisman trophy
Speaker 1: with you. Let's go. I want to bring a few
Speaker 1: ross in his pocket. Two Bucky hates this guy an anchor.
Speaker 1: You tell me where that wait hurts him, and I'll
Speaker 1: hold it against him. That rule. Oh goodness, that's seventy
Speaker 1: pound number one receiver and he is. This is also
Speaker 1: a dream scenario I think for Arizona sitting at sixteen,
Speaker 1: because I was gonna take whoever Jeff didn't take. He
Speaker 1: was either going to take Davante Smith, which he did,
Speaker 1: or jac Horne, who was falling all the way down
Speaker 1: to sixteen. So I think the Arizona Cardinals are about
Speaker 1: to make that defense even more scary in the secondary.
Speaker 1: They're gonna take jac Horn picked number sixteen to go
Speaker 1: to Arizona and to pair up out there with Buddha
Speaker 1: Baker and company in that secondary. So let's go jac
Speaker 1: Horn cornerback out of South Carolina sixteen. Overall, Who I
Speaker 1: like it. That's man, man, I love them. He's a
Speaker 1: better fit. I think he's a better fit in Arizona
Speaker 1: than Dallas. But interesting, wait, wait, why do you say that.
Speaker 1: I just want to I want to hit on that
Speaker 1: real quick, because the difference is like the Cowboys are
Speaker 1: gonna play like that hybrid covered three, which is really
Speaker 1: more zoned than pure lockdown man to man, jac Horn
Speaker 1: to me and needs being a system where he can
Speaker 1: just go nose to nose and not have to worry
Speaker 1: about anybody else but the man in front of him.
Speaker 1: And I just think with his aggressive style, I think
Speaker 1: it really fits in Arizona, maybe even a little better
Speaker 1: than Dallas. I will say what people tell me though,
Speaker 1: his dog mentality will will be a culture change or
Speaker 1: wherever he goes like he is all bark and bite,
Speaker 1: which is a little different than some guys and maybe
Speaker 1: that would that would certainly help in Dallas too. I
Speaker 1: love what it help in Dallas. I love outlining these
Speaker 1: scenarios because it just it's a reminder, like somebody has
Speaker 1: to fall, like because there's only so many there's only
Speaker 1: so many teams and so many good players, and you
Speaker 1: can sit there and say, like, well what if what
Speaker 1: if Horne's gone before the Cowboys come up on the clock.
Speaker 1: It's also possible he could last for six or seven
Speaker 1: more picks, or maybe even longer. I mean, just depends
Speaker 1: on what each of these teams thinks about these guys. Well,
Speaker 1: depending on your selection. And I meant to ask this
Speaker 1: question when you picked it, but you selected Patrick's or
Speaker 1: ten at ten overall? Does that change your thinking and
Speaker 1: maybe trying to come up and get one of these
Speaker 1: top edge rushers or defensive tackle if you wanted to
Speaker 1: pair some picks together, I mean me, I know you
Speaker 1: would know. Well, I mean, I can't do that until
Speaker 1: the guy that I want is in, Like, you gotta
Speaker 1: wait until we're into the twenties, because I think to
Speaker 1: get up into the teams is an exorbitant There would
Speaker 1: be a lot of yeah, a lot of draft cab
Speaker 1: and even as we're even if you are, let's say
Speaker 1: you're trying to trade to twenty five, like, that's probably
Speaker 1: both of your day two picks to get that done.
Speaker 1: It's good point. So you got to think about that
Speaker 1: or excuse me, the two of your three or maybe
Speaker 1: even all three, depending on how high up you need
Speaker 1: to go. So yeah, I think you're you gotta wait
Speaker 1: until way later in the first round. Is so well.
Speaker 1: We hear a little bit of a phone call from
Speaker 1: David Hellman aka Jerry Jones talking to some of these
Speaker 1: teams in the twenties and that they're let's see who's
Speaker 1: let's see who's still hanging around, Bucky, You're up next.
Speaker 1: Las Vegas Raiders are on the clock. Man. This is
Speaker 1: a dream scenario for the Raiders because the Raiders need
Speaker 1: a playmaker on the second level, and so they have
Speaker 1: their choice between John and Davis from Kentucky, and they
Speaker 1: have ja Oka from Notre Dame. And when you think
Speaker 1: about it, like, look, I like j Okay, and I
Speaker 1: like the fact that he could be that big nickel
Speaker 1: and all that. But man, the buzz is building about Davis.
Speaker 1: I think Davis is depict here of seventeen. Wow, all
Speaker 1: the way up to seventeen, because I think I've seen
Speaker 1: him mocked in the twenties before. We've seen it a
Speaker 1: couple of different occasions. Now we hear the buzz is happening,
Speaker 1: but I don't know if I've ever seen him as
Speaker 1: high as seventeen. Bucky Brooks, Yeah, it's real. There are
Speaker 1: a lot of people like they're talking about him as
Speaker 1: linebacker one wow. So I mean it's a cliche for
Speaker 1: a reason. But like, leave it to the Raiders to
Speaker 1: buck conventional wisdom. They've done it every year that John
Speaker 1: Gruden has been there, so very good point. Would not try, Hey,
Speaker 1: you think you think that's unconventional, I'm not. I'm not.
Speaker 1: I guess and I'm not. I'm not saying one's better
Speaker 1: than the other. But yeah, I would say that's the
Speaker 1: conventional wisdom. Like Davis is really only caught onto the
Speaker 1: media circles in the last you know what, three weeks
Speaker 1: to a month, whereas j Ok has really been there
Speaker 1: from the beginning. Again not saying, not saying that makes
Speaker 1: one better than the other. But uh, but it wouldn't
Speaker 1: shock me, all right, who is eighteen, oh Steve? That
Speaker 1: would be me. But the Miami Dolphins, this this is fun.
Speaker 1: I mean, okay, so you you got your wide receiver, Uh,
Speaker 1: don't don't need to worry about that. And then the
Speaker 1: other one. Offensive line and running back are two big
Speaker 1: things for the Dolphins. I love Naji Harris and I
Speaker 1: feel perfectly comfortable drafting him in the first round, even
Speaker 1: though Jeff hates all running backs. Um, but I don't
Speaker 1: hate them. I hate their money. That's totally fair. I
Speaker 1: just I think it's interesting. I mean, it speaks to
Speaker 1: the class. But okay, Brian Flores is a defensive guy,
Speaker 1: and you can get a running back. All the offensive
Speaker 1: tackles are all gone to that helps at least the
Speaker 1: ones that are like slotted into this range, so you
Speaker 1: don't have to worry about that. I'm I'm taking a
Speaker 1: defender here. Um, j Oka is awfully intriguing. But I
Speaker 1: just I haven't aunt. But having said that, I have
Speaker 1: a hard time believing, like have we haven't We have
Speaker 1: not drafted an edge rusher and this exercise have we
Speaker 1: have a hard time believing that ain't gonna happen. Somebody's
Speaker 1: gonna take a chance on one before I do. Just
Speaker 1: like there's a I do. It's a very valuable position,
Speaker 1: and and teams talk themselves into which one. Yeah. And
Speaker 1: that's the problem is, like, if it were up to me,
Speaker 1: I would probably say Quitty Pay is he a great
Speaker 1: fit for flores scheme? And I'm definitely I'm not an
Speaker 1: expert on what the Miami Dolphins do, but I know
Speaker 1: he came from New England. Sure, um, yeah, which I
Speaker 1: would say Oglar and Quitty Pay. And I like Quitty Pay,
Speaker 1: so I'll draft him here. That's and that's that's really
Speaker 1: more so than me loving the player. That's me just thinking, like,
Speaker 1: scheme fit, Well, surely an edge rusher is going to
Speaker 1: go off the board. Like we're at pick eighteen, We're
Speaker 1: in the second half of the first round, and I
Speaker 1: just I have a feeling that's going to happen. Who
Speaker 1: was the first edge rusher off the board last year?
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think, oh, I actually I got it
Speaker 1: right in front of outside of Chase Young. I was
Speaker 1: thinking Caleb on Chase on which happened right in that range.
Speaker 1: Chase Young was special. But I mean, if you take
Speaker 1: this class, you put it up to last year's class,
Speaker 1: and you take Chase Young out of the equation. It's
Speaker 1: pretty similar in terms of the thought process around some
Speaker 1: of these edge rushers. I don't know if it would
Speaker 1: be quitty pay. I just feel like if all the
Speaker 1: if the offensive tackles are especial. So if if Miami
Speaker 1: drafts Chase uh and that the offensive tackles get eaten
Speaker 1: up like they did in this, then I just think,
Speaker 1: look like, find the value on defense because you can
Speaker 1: find a running back later. Even if Nagie Harris is great, So, yeah,
Speaker 1: what they have, they have a running back. They can
Speaker 1: take a running back. At the top of the second,
Speaker 1: I would say this is keep an eye. Was Davan Collins?
Speaker 1: They they pick here you go. It's a good point.
Speaker 1: It's a good point. I was really thinking you were
Speaker 1: gonna go with a linebacker there, I mean Collins or Jokays.
Speaker 1: I leaned edg Dresher just because of the way that
Speaker 1: they're valued. But I don't feel good about that pick,
Speaker 1: which is probably a sign that it's not the right
Speaker 1: or that it will be the right pick. Yeah, I'll
Speaker 1: see who knows, all right, Washington number nineteen overall final
Speaker 1: pick here or actually I guess we got two more
Speaker 1: picks here, But Jeff with the football team. What are
Speaker 1: they doing at number nineteen? I was I was hoping
Speaker 1: to get Dereshow to fall there and that didn't work out.
Speaker 1: And to me, that's a little rich for Tevin Jenkins
Speaker 1: played right, and I don't pretend that it's super easy
Speaker 1: to just flip over for me. That's early for Leatherwood
Speaker 1: or I can. So I'm going to flip to Washington's
Speaker 1: needs on defense because I can't get the left tackle
Speaker 1: that I want. I can't get the quarterback that I want.
Speaker 1: I've got Landed Collins coming off in Achilles, and my
Speaker 1: linebackers aren't very good. So I am going to take
Speaker 1: Jeremiah Wosu Coromoa and I will leave it up to
Speaker 1: my defensive staff to figure out is he my strong
Speaker 1: safety or my will linebacker. But either way, we're gonna
Speaker 1: have some fun with it Washington. If he's on the
Speaker 1: board when Washington ticks, I think that'll be their pick. Honestly,
Speaker 1: that's a good point. Then that's kind of what my
Speaker 1: I guess worst case scenario being someone who covers the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: I don't want to see Joka in Washington. No, that
Speaker 1: doesn't make me feel any better. About it at all.
Speaker 1: Not a fan of winning one of them. I'll go
Speaker 1: ahead as to say, to Bucky's point when he was
Speaker 1: kind of just tongue in cheek about two hundred and
Speaker 1: five pound linebacker, what are you going to ask you
Speaker 1: Okay to do? Is whoever picks him going to pull
Speaker 1: the Isaiah Simmons thing where it's like, hey, here's the
Speaker 1: thirty eight things you're gonna do, and so he doesn't
Speaker 1: make an impact, or will they be smart enough to
Speaker 1: be like, hey, you're really good at football, this is
Speaker 1: your position, go play it. And so who knows. Teams
Speaker 1: get real weird with those tweeter guys. Some of them
Speaker 1: do it right and some of them are real dumb.
Speaker 1: You know how, We've talked a lot about how the
Speaker 1: Cowboys defensive line doesn't eat up enough blocks to help
Speaker 1: the linebackers out. I don't think Jay Okay will have
Speaker 1: that problem. And I don't think I'll have that problem
Speaker 1: with all those freaking monsters in front of him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you got Payne and Alan and Sweat and Young, you
Speaker 1: got your linebackers. They got room. So now that we've
Speaker 1: kind of worked our way through the top nineteen picks,
Speaker 1: Chris is the twentieth pick on the next graphic or
Speaker 1: is it on the graphic that's currently been thrown up there,
Speaker 1: it's on the next one. Let's go ahead and take
Speaker 1: our first break. When we come back, the Bears are
Speaker 1: on the clock, I'll make my selection there. They did
Speaker 1: not get their quarterback, So where are they going to go?
Speaker 1: Could they take a chance on somebody who's highly rated
Speaker 1: but maybe has some injury issues. We'll talk about it
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Speaker 1: Jeff Kavanaugh. We've got Bucky Brooks as always, final twelve
Speaker 1: picks of the first round as we continue through our
Speaker 1: first round mock draft. By the way, just this is
Speaker 1: just a huge victory for the Cowboys. Last year we
Speaker 1: mocked in this mock draft Treyvon Diggs number nineteen overall,
Speaker 1: and of course he ended up following to fifty one
Speaker 1: and the Cowboys selected him. But here's the order twenty
Speaker 1: through twenty nine. It'll start with me in Chicago, then
Speaker 1: go to Bucky in Indianapolis. And I'm at a crossroads
Speaker 1: again and I'm gonna take forty five minutes to make
Speaker 1: my pick. I'm thinking about Cale Parley here, but I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna do it. Just because I think twenty is
Speaker 1: a little early, and I don't know what teams are
Speaker 1: thinking about Caleb Farley in the first round. I think
Speaker 1: he will go in the first round and we'll see
Speaker 1: if he's available in the backside of it. But outside
Speaker 1: of Azizo Jilari, he's my top player on my board
Speaker 1: right now, and neither one of those guys really intrigued me.
Speaker 1: When it comes to Chicago, I think Chicago could go
Speaker 1: a number of different ways. But where Shot Bateman is there,
Speaker 1: could they add a pass catcher. I'm talking out loud
Speaker 1: at the moment. I think Bateman will be the pick. Here.
Speaker 1: There we go. I think it's gonna be Bateman while
Speaker 1: we're young. Yeoman's yes, I'm sorry, I'll take my time.
Speaker 1: I know we've only got a couple of minutes left,
Speaker 1: but yeah, I'm gonna go over Shod Bateman, wide receiver
Speaker 1: out of Minnesota's going to Chicago, trying to help some
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton out up there in the Windy City. All right, Bucky,
Speaker 1: this is We're gonna take Jalen Phillis for the Indianapolis Colts,
Speaker 1: the pass rusher h plan on Tampa two scheme. We
Speaker 1: need someone that can get up to feel and make
Speaker 1: it happen to step in and replace justin Houston. Look
Speaker 1: if you can get through the stuff that happened at UCLA.
Speaker 1: This dude's hand skilled and his athleticism really makes him
Speaker 1: have a chance to be a pretty effective rush at
Speaker 1: the next level. I like it, and I love it
Speaker 1: because it leaves my options open with the Tennessee Titans.
Speaker 1: Everybody talks about how they need a receiver, and they do,
Speaker 1: but this receiver class is absolutely loaded. I feel perfectly
Speaker 1: comfortable drafting Tevin Jenkins here, and the Titans need an
Speaker 1: offensive tackle. That makes way too much sense for me.
Speaker 1: I know they need help, and you know they need
Speaker 1: cornerbacks too, but offensive tackles are harder to find. Maybe
Speaker 1: either way, I just I feel way better addressing that
Speaker 1: way to go into Biggs. That's right way to go
Speaker 1: into Biggs, Hog Molligs. I like it. I don't like
Speaker 1: it because one of us has twenty seven And couldn't
Speaker 1: you just imagine Tevin Jenkins is a raven. Come on,
Speaker 1: Dave Rumory, my phone didn't ring. Pick up the phone.
Speaker 1: Maybe I should have called you. I got multiple ones.
Speaker 1: I should have called you. Screwed it up. You've got
Speaker 1: the Jets again your jests that is Jenkins. Okay, So
Speaker 1: I will tell you that I am down to two
Speaker 1: players for the Jets here. Well, I guess you could
Speaker 1: say three, because I can't project my Caleb Farley fear
Speaker 1: onto others. I'm terrified of backs and this is pro
Speaker 1: football focus of take it for what it's worth. The
Speaker 1: cornerback grades last year of their three starters fifty one one,
Speaker 1: fifty nine nine, and thirty six seven. Goodness gracious. So
Speaker 1: I will consider Farley and I will consider Greg Newsom,
Speaker 1: but I actually maybe taking Landon Dickerson because they need
Speaker 1: a center, and I just I'm so with that. I'm
Speaker 1: so terrified of what to do with him because I
Speaker 1: think his tape is top ten, top fifteen in this class,
Speaker 1: and every season he's played ended with an injury. Why
Speaker 1: don't you go with a Gun Humphrey out of Oklahoma
Speaker 1: there then, because he's not as good. Landon Dickerson's a monster.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Landon Dickerson at twenty three to and whatever.
Speaker 1: The Jess have been good. They've always had a dominant pivot.
Speaker 1: Why Nick Man go I am with Okay, it's just
Speaker 1: injury history of tops. He's one of the top leaders
Speaker 1: of that Alabama team and their CD background. So it
Speaker 1: sounds like the concrete guys are here for the pool.
Speaker 1: Sounds like the steel guys. I'm so excited that was
Speaker 1: That was just a subtle flex from Jeff cab And
Speaker 1: I'll putting in the pool while I'm on a show. Okay,
Speaker 1: uh Steeling Cowboys dot Com. Maybe big money Steelers at
Speaker 1: twenty four. This is an easy pick for me. Zavian
Speaker 1: Collins out of Tulsa. Oh, that's my pig. I think, whoa,
Speaker 1: what do you think I was gonna do there, Bucky? Hmm?
Speaker 1: I would think you were going for the Levy and
Speaker 1: Bill clone a little bit, No, Harris, because they can't
Speaker 1: run the ball drop. They can't, I'm at all which
Speaker 1: I get you, Bucky, but I'm so I'm so tired
Speaker 1: of people pegging a running back to the Steelers like
Speaker 1: they need an offensive line, they need anything, They need
Speaker 1: a line more than they need a back. Well they
Speaker 1: got Okay, who is next, Dave? No Bucky with the Jags. Uh,
Speaker 1: let's go Christian Barbo No, no ye, Bucky right up inside,
Speaker 1: right down the middle, right down the middle of getting
Speaker 1: build a defense one championship defense gonna be strong down
Speaker 1: the pipe. Herbert Mayer knows that. That's why Barmore is
Speaker 1: going to do the big Do you have any idea
Speaker 1: how fun it would be to put Barmore in Cleveland
Speaker 1: with Miles Garrett and Jadeveon Clowney Like I had that, God,
Speaker 1: I had that circled from the get just from the
Speaker 1: from the get off to get there, and I'm robbed.
Speaker 1: I'm robbed of my ideal pick right before I come
Speaker 1: up on the clock. That is devastating. Um, I mean
Speaker 1: really like the This sounds so weird to say because
Speaker 1: we've spent so many years talking about what a disaster
Speaker 1: they are. But like the Browns, the Browns are in
Speaker 1: really good shape. Um, you know, they they could use
Speaker 1: some dbs. But like they've got Greedy Williams and Grant
Speaker 1: Delpit coming back from injury. Um, so like they I
Speaker 1: think they're in a position where they get to make
Speaker 1: a luxury pick. So if you steal bar More from me,
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna keep this edge rusher thing going. And
Speaker 1: since he has he's Ojalari hasn't been drafted, right Nope, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna draft him, Jadeveon Clown. He's only on
Speaker 1: a one year deal. Have him come in and learn
Speaker 1: behind those two guys for a year. And I like
Speaker 1: the way that sounds a lot if I'm a Browns fan,
Speaker 1: but I would have liked having Christian Barmore and more
Speaker 1: Bucky Goodness. Gracious, yeah, I mean that you're the big disease.
Speaker 1: All right, Disease has gone Oh oh, Jeff with the Ravens.
Speaker 1: All right. I'm really happy to be drafting for the
Speaker 1: Ravens because Ozzie Newsom was my um. He was my
Speaker 1: spirit animal for years while drafting, and I feel like
Speaker 1: he and I we can do this together. Now that
Speaker 1: he's no longer with us on the team, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: say like he's he's still alive. Yeah, okay, just making sure.
Speaker 1: I wanted Tevin Jenkins so bad and you guys didn't
Speaker 1: let that happen. Then I wanted Disease Aguilarry, and you
Speaker 1: didn't let that happen. And so now I'm looking at
Speaker 1: oh I don't like their wide receiver group, Sammy Watkins,
Speaker 1: Miles boy in Hollywood, Brown oh Man right tackle or
Speaker 1: an edge or a wide receiver is most likely what
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, and on my board, I'm out of ones
Speaker 1: on all those spots, and so I am going to
Speaker 1: take hold on I'm in a vamp home to see
Speaker 1: what their corner situations like. I'm pretty sure that they're
Speaker 1: good at it, but let me double check there. Show
Speaker 1: me their nickel line up. Marlin Humphrey, Marcus Peters, Jimmy Smith. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're not going corner. Dang it, guys, I'm thrilled that
Speaker 1: I wiped you out. I know this is perfect absolutely.
Speaker 1: I mean it's not great radio, but I like to
Speaker 1: be a thorn in your side, so this works out.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna consider boogie basham wow. Oh I like it.
Speaker 1: I'm not And I'm also you've set that on the
Speaker 1: show More. Oh there you go. I like that. All right,
Speaker 1: we're gonna pass on Elijah More and we're going to
Speaker 1: take Carlos boogie Wow. Interesting boogie boogie boogie. That makes
Speaker 1: that makes perfect sense? Is that? Is that the biggest
Speaker 1: surprise out of the first round so far for everybody?
Speaker 1: At least it to fit a player into the first round.
Speaker 1: I was about, it's not a huge surprise me to
Speaker 1: have him in the first, yeah, I will say, I
Speaker 1: think if you go back and look at this tape,
Speaker 1: I think he's first round caliber um right into twenties.
Speaker 1: No town kind of fisting there. There's no way to like,
Speaker 1: I don't know how to fix this, but I will say, like,
Speaker 1: there's gonna be a player that shocks the hell out
Speaker 1: of all of us, Like there will be a guy
Speaker 1: that goes higher. I think that we're not ready for,
Speaker 1: maybe like a Zaven Collins. And there will also be
Speaker 1: some guys that's then in the first round that we're
Speaker 1: not really expecting. I don't know who they'll be, but
Speaker 1: I can't wait to find out. And all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: we get all the way down to the twenty fifth
Speaker 1: pick and we have a run on defensive line Barmore
Speaker 1: Ojulari and then Basham Junior back to back to back picks.
Speaker 1: That run ends here. The Saints are gonna take a corner, which,
Speaker 1: by the way, just I'm not gonna do it. But
Speaker 1: this is where I'm on the phone. If I mind
Speaker 1: call if I'm Jerry Jones. Although you come up, well
Speaker 1: that's I mean, I got my cornerback you did, um,
Speaker 1: So I don't know, maybe should be on the phone
Speaker 1: for if I was gonna do it, and my guy,
Speaker 1: my guy j Okay is gone. Um that's a good
Speaker 1: maybe maybe maybe an offensive tackle, like depending on what
Speaker 1: happens here of the next picks, although I will say yeah, like,
Speaker 1: the Saints have defensive needs, so maybe you can get
Speaker 1: away with it, maybe cause me or Redunds. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: Jenkins is already off the board, Leatherwood's there. My desire
Speaker 1: to trade up is directly tied to whether or not
Speaker 1: you get a cornerback, honestly, so maybe I maybe I wouldn't.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm happy to state what you do.
Speaker 1: So I thought about Kayla Varley here for New Orleans.
Speaker 1: But with Greg k Newsome healthy sitting there, just it's
Speaker 1: a blinking light on my board. I'm taking Greg Newsom
Speaker 1: out of Northwestern with the twenty eighth overall pick to
Speaker 1: New Orleans. I think that's a fantastic look for the Saints,
Speaker 1: and I think they'll have some fun there. Packers on
Speaker 1: the clock, with Bucky Brooks, Packers on the clock, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna do something that the Packers normally won't do, but
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna make an exception this year. After
Speaker 1: hearing all the outside noise, Elijah more dolls to the
Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers right there, catching run a specialist, all
Speaker 1: standing runner. Put him opposite Davante Adams. Good luck covering
Speaker 1: that crew. Okay, this is lucky. This is I got
Speaker 1: another Baltimore pick up. We're trying to This is really fun.
Speaker 1: The other orders, what you say, and I should have
Speaker 1: waited on The Bills are a lot like the Buffalo
Speaker 1: Bills are on the clock at thirty. They're a lot
Speaker 1: like um the Cowboys in the sense that like people
Speaker 1: just keep pegging the same players to him, and it's
Speaker 1: it's always a running back for Buffalo. A lot of
Speaker 1: the time it's Travis Etn. And I came into this
Speaker 1: draft specifically saying I'd weigh rather get an edge rusher.
Speaker 1: I'd weigh rather have an edge rusher, but I don't
Speaker 1: know if the value is there. And the Bills are
Speaker 1: popularly slotted with Travis Etn because Nagi Harris is always
Speaker 1: gone at this stage of the draft, but he's not
Speaker 1: right now, and so that just feels very fun and
Speaker 1: very obvious to me. Naji Harris first running back taken.
Speaker 1: How many Bama guys if we drafted eight. At this
Speaker 1: point I'm in with with Josh Allen and those receivers. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I like and and to Jeff's point, I mean, you
Speaker 1: get him for five years and all the way down
Speaker 1: at thirty this Allary's not even that crazy. I like
Speaker 1: that a lot. All right, Naji Harris, who oh yes
Speaker 1: he there we go, all right. I just want to
Speaker 1: make sure in Baltimore, Jeff, and then thirty two I
Speaker 1: will round things out and then we will start round
Speaker 1: two tomorrow with the other group with Dane Brugler, Brian
Speaker 1: brought us, Kevin kat Turner. Who should I give the
Speaker 1: Cowboys picks too? That'll be that'll be relevant here. Don't
Speaker 1: give him to brought us, don't give him no, he's
Speaker 1: the worst. Should I give him the dam the wild card?
Speaker 1: I'll give him the KI to the World card. He
Speaker 1: may have one last pick here at a moment. I'll
Speaker 1: tell you why after Jeff makes his selection. Here the Ravens.
Speaker 1: What is Kale Patrick Queen was so highly drafted, so
Speaker 1: um l J. Fort is a good player, and I
Speaker 1: think they like him because you know, fuck, you'll understand this,
Speaker 1: you know who really plays like a Raven? And Nick
Speaker 1: Bolton plays like a Raven, but he does play like
Speaker 1: a Raven. I don't know if they need him. I
Speaker 1: don't know that status. Can I run him out of town.
Speaker 1: We're not drafting for we're not drafting from need Jeff,
Speaker 1: just take the best player. Man, Well, if you're going
Speaker 1: to factor it in, if you can't get on the field,
Speaker 1: I know, I'm kidding. If you can't get on the field,
Speaker 1: that's different than just need um. Oh yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 1: This is the last year of forts contract. Nick Bolton's
Speaker 1: going to the Ravens. Wow. I like that. Sometimes you
Speaker 1: just have to match a dude to that debt debt
Speaker 1: all the time, y'all don't end as a Ravens pick.
Speaker 1: I know that's why those guys were hit. I know what.
Speaker 1: I know what y'all are about to say. But his
Speaker 1: athletic testing doesn't scare you off from the first round
Speaker 1: a little bit, not at all. Noope, you line up
Speaker 1: Nick Bolton and middle linebacker, and you'll line up a
Speaker 1: better athlete at middle linebacker. You snap the ball and
Speaker 1: run the same play. He's going to get to the
Speaker 1: tackle first. Okay. So the Ravens come out with Boogie
Speaker 1: Basham and Nick Bolton after their trade. Yeah, that's a
Speaker 1: Baltimore draft too. Did they just get good players? They
Speaker 1: don't mess around with audit testing in order to go
Speaker 1: good players. We're trying to be right here and that's
Speaker 1: pretty close. Oh that's okay. Hey hey, uh Mac mac
Speaker 1: Jones is about to be a top five picks. So, like,
Speaker 1: clearly the NFL doesn't have it all figured out either. Dave, Dave,
Speaker 1: do you want a safety? Me? David Hellman as the
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys? Did you like a safety? Hell? Yeah? What
Speaker 1: do I have to? I mean, I'm Could you give
Speaker 1: me forty four and seventy five to get up the
Speaker 1: thirty two? Am I going for Travan Merrick? Yep or whoever?
Speaker 1: Richie Grant? You're damn picks? No, that's no. Hey, you're
Speaker 1: not going, Jeff, Jeff, have some faith, have something. I'm not, dude,
Speaker 1: I'm not We're doing No, we're not doing that seventy five? No?
Speaker 1: Why would I do that? Why would you not do it?
Speaker 1: Because Richie Grant's still there for me and Travan Merrick
Speaker 1: hasn't been picked yet. Tampa doesn't really need a safety,
Speaker 1: so I don't think that's happening right here. What about
Speaker 1: Alex Leatherwood. What if you wanted to tackle, I'd be
Speaker 1: way more willing to trade up for that. But I like,
Speaker 1: you're talking to the wrong guy. Man. I want picks,
Speaker 1: that's fair. I just want about that. Potentially, Dave Hellman
Speaker 1: wants picks. I want four. I want to have four
Speaker 1: top one hundred picks on the track. Hang up on,
Speaker 1: get the hell out of my face. Oh okay, so
Speaker 1: the phone has been hung up. I tried. I tried
Speaker 1: to help out the button. That's Day. That's why you
Speaker 1: don't give That's why you don't give Brian broad Us
Speaker 1: the Cowboys picks, because he'll have them all traded away
Speaker 1: from one guy like, oh I got my player, I
Speaker 1: got my player. Oh goodness, get out of here. Alex
Speaker 1: Leatherwood out of Alabama is going to be the pick here,
Speaker 1: thirty two overall, I tried to trade away. Didn't work
Speaker 1: it out. I mean, that is a really good pick.
Speaker 1: I'm sad to see him. I'm sad to see him
Speaker 1: go off the board. But you can't have my Day
Speaker 1: two picks now. I tried. I tried. All right, we will.
Speaker 1: We're gonna put this out on social media as to
Speaker 1: what the final picks were. And then tomorrow we go
Speaker 1: through the second round, the Cowboys picking at forty four,
Speaker 1: so twelve or excuse me, ten rounds or eleven picks
Speaker 1: into that second round. Here's what things we'll look at
Speaker 1: to start round number two Jacksonville Jets, Atlanta, Miami, Philadelphia,
Speaker 1: and Cincinnati's. So glad you guys have had a lot
Speaker 1: of fun with us here over the last couple of moments.
Speaker 1: Tried to trade away and get the Cowboys back into
Speaker 1: the first round, but ultimately they take Patrick's or Tan
Speaker 1: Corner out of Alabama. In our twenty twenty one Dallas
Speaker 1: Cowboys dot Com mock draft for Chris Beam and Scott
Speaker 1: Purcell in the back for Bucky Brooks, Jeff cavan On,
Speaker 1: David Helm and I'm Kyle Yeoman's thanks for joining us.
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