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Speaker 1: Welcome back. It's a brand new episode. This is laugh

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Speaker 1: with Me at Podcast with Jeremy Oda. I'm your o.

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Speaker 2: Jo, and we've got a bete for you here this week.

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Speaker 1: We are going out on the new on twenty five,

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Speaker 1: so we're going into the new year with a lot

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Speaker 1: of fun. We've got some friends here from the Inflection

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Speaker 1: Network and iHeart Media, the black guy who tips podcast,

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Speaker 1: Rotten Carrod. You may have heard I was on their

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Speaker 1: show a couple of weeks ago where we're paying the favor.

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Speaker 1: They will be right here on Laugh with Me in

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Speaker 1: just a few moments.

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Speaker 2: Oh man, I can't wait to talk to them.

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Speaker 1: So they're actually they're based out of North Carolina, I

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Speaker 1: think Charlotte. So just to give you a little bit

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Speaker 1: of background, they have been in the game here, the

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Speaker 1: podcast game, for over sixteen years, so you could say

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Speaker 1: they were there before well really any of us, I

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Speaker 1: mean before a lot of the things going on in

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Speaker 1: the podcast world. They were there. And now it's so

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Speaker 1: cool to kind of to talk to them and just

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Speaker 1: kind of hear their story and how they got started

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Speaker 1: and then to where they're at now.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 1: It's it's quite the production they've got going on. Over

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Speaker 1: there at Black Guy Who Tips podcast, and we gotta

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Speaker 1: hear about this name too, because I didn't. I meant

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Speaker 1: to ask them when I was on their show, like

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Speaker 1: what's up with the name, Like, where'd that come from?

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Speaker 1: I just I've been thinking about it ever since, ever

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Speaker 1: since I was on their show a couple of weeks ago.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, I never even found out where the name

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Speaker 1: came from. We'll make sure to we'll make sure to

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Speaker 1: follow see what's going on. But before we get to them,

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Speaker 1: what's going on. We are finishing up twenty twenty five,

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Speaker 1: and we are doing it strong. Lot's coming up in

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Speaker 1: twenty six, all kinds of episodes coming your way, right, Johnny,

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Speaker 1: I mean, Johnny, Johnny, here's the thing. When Rod and

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Speaker 1: Karen call, I don't need you piping in.

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Speaker 2: Okay, let's not.

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Speaker 1: Let's not mess this up. We're gonna I'm excited to

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Speaker 1: have them on the show, so let's not mess it

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Speaker 1: up with your ill timed sound effects, ill timed jokes.

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Speaker 4: You've got.

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Speaker 1: This isn't it, buddy. Been dealing with him lately, been

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Speaker 1: dealing with him in a lot of ways, right, Johnny,

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Speaker 1: son of a bitch? Well, Rod and Karen are coming up,

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Speaker 1: and just honestly, I'm just once a call. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: hop right into it because I think you're really gonna enjoy.

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Speaker 2: Their story. Really funny, both of them.

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Speaker 1: Their their chemistry is in incredible. But yeah, Johnny, Noah, how.

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Speaker 2: Was your How was your Christmas? Was it good?

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Speaker 4: It was a joke?

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Speaker 1: Huh? Okay, it's too bad. Hopefully you liked my gift,

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Speaker 1: which was absolutely nothing. I'll tell you what, Johnny. One

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Speaker 1: thing that you should learn is not to expect a

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Speaker 1: Christmas gift from those who employ you. Ask Clark Chriswold

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Speaker 1: for example, had he really thought about this and not

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Speaker 1: expected this bonus? And you can't really guarantee and plan

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Speaker 1: on bonuses. That fella did and he tried to put

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Speaker 1: or the subscription or whatever. He ended up the jelly

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Speaker 1: Just don't guarantee those. So I'm gonna say, next year,

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Speaker 1: twenty six, Johnny, do not expect a gift. I know

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Speaker 1: you did this year.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I just don't think that's how

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Speaker 1: it works. I don't know how we got sidetracked on this, Johnny,

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Speaker 1: all right, well right, they are calling in right now,

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Speaker 1: let's get to it. It is Rod Karen The Black

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Speaker 1: Guy Who Tips podcast, and remember you can hear them

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Speaker 1: anywhere that you listen to your favorite podcast, including the

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Speaker 1: free iHeart Radio app. Brody Care The Black Guy Who

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Speaker 1: Tips podcast, Welcome to laugh with me. It was awesome

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Speaker 1: to be on your on your show here a couple

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Speaker 1: weeks now ago. I guess first thing I want to

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Speaker 1: how what was the inspiration behind your podcast name.

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Speaker 4: I used to have a blog on Tumblr back in

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Speaker 4: the Tumblr days, uh, and it was called the Black

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Speaker 4: Guy Who Tips because I was a waiter for many

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Speaker 4: years and there's a stereotype that black people don't tip,

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Speaker 4: and uh, you know, there's a bunch of other uh

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Speaker 4: if you know me, I disagree. I think black people

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Speaker 4: black person who does tip. So maybe stop saying black

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Speaker 4: people don't tip, you know, just start with me and

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Speaker 4: then branch out, get the more, no more black people

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Speaker 4: and you realize that many of us tip, many of

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Speaker 4: us overtip perfect over compensate for a bunch of stuff

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Speaker 4: eating control. Yeah, even when we get batch service built

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Speaker 4: Sometimes. So it's just, uh, you know, that's how it started.

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Speaker 4: And then the podcast. When I started a podcast, I

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Speaker 4: would have named it the Rod and Karen Show or something,

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Speaker 4: but Karen wasn't sure she would be the co host.

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Speaker 4: She thought I would get rid of her because she

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Speaker 5: Because I was like, what is this out of any rules,

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Speaker 4: I was like, I'm gonna be terrible. So we named

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Well it's super interesting because as soon as

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Speaker 1: you like read the name, you're like, Okay, where's this going.

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Speaker 1: But if you know like kind of where that's from,

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's funny though, it's really funny. So,

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Speaker 1: Karen car you thought you were gonna get kicked off

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Speaker 5: We first started podcasting. Podcasting was a thing that people did,

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Speaker 5: the full concept of podcasting. So I was like, what

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Speaker 4: But that was just me getting me to do the show.

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Speaker 1: Well, Rod was smart to have you on there because like,

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Speaker 1: And it went from went from the blog to the podcast.

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Speaker 1: And honestly, not everybody needs a bio pic. I mean

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Speaker 1: it seems like they want to.

435
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Speaker 4: If you have some stick eat situations. Man. I don't know, man,

436
00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:06,000
Speaker 4: I just feel like Hollywood should just stay away from

437
00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:09,960
Speaker 4: from the stories. It can't be. It can't. What's the

438
00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:13,080
Speaker 4: best case scenario is that the movie does well and

439
00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:16,159
Speaker 4: then the conversation that we have is about how you

440
00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:19,600
Speaker 4: left out all of this abuse, so you can't even

441
00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:23,560
Speaker 4: really enjoy the fruits of your labor. Like we've seen

442
00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:26,520
Speaker 4: that with so many movies over the years, like The

443
00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:29,359
Speaker 4: Green Book or something where the movie does okay in

444
00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:31,960
Speaker 4: the theaters, some people think it's like, oh, it's a

445
00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:34,680
Speaker 4: pretty good story, and then the whole story comes about

446
00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,119
Speaker 4: what was left out. Right, So by the time you

447
00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,520
Speaker 4: went an oscar like my herschel all Eton wins an

448
00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:41,800
Speaker 4: oscar and we're all like, are you gonna apologize, marshal

449
00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:45,359
Speaker 4: U that was the happiest moment of your life? But

450
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Speaker 4: do you want to say you're sorry for being in

451
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Speaker 4: this movie?

452
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Speaker 1: It's too much.

453
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Speaker 2: Not everybody needs it, that's for sure.

454
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Speaker 1: Okay, So you talk about separating the art and whatnot,

455
00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:59,800
Speaker 1: and like we didn't know. Here's an instance that I

456
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Speaker 1: think is very possible, and we will have known, and

457
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:06,760
Speaker 1: then will the audience is gonna have to decide if

458
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:09,520
Speaker 1: they can get in. Okay, so we know what the

459
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:12,040
Speaker 1: deal is with Diddy, right, and he's serving his time.

460
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:14,280
Speaker 2: He's gonna get out at some point.

461
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:15,720
Speaker 1: I mean, he's just he's gonna get out at some

462
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:20,440
Speaker 1: point and he's gonna go right back to work. We

463
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Speaker 1: do we then you think, like even if it's he

464
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Speaker 1: just starts putting out some bangers, you know, are we

465
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Speaker 1: gonna do you think as a as a society, are

466
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Speaker 1: we going to listen to it? Are we gonna embrace

467
00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:34,479
Speaker 1: it and be like, didd he's back, he did it,

468
00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:36,520
Speaker 1: he served his time. Or do you think he's pretty

469
00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:39,280
Speaker 1: much he's pretty much toast?

470
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Speaker 4: I think it's gonna be somewhere in the middle. Yep.

471
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Speaker 4: I don't. Like I don't because one, I don't think

472
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:47,680
Speaker 4: he's ever gonna make good music again. If we're being honest,

473
00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:49,960
Speaker 4: he hadn't made good music before he went to jail.

474
00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 4: Like it's been a while, Like I'm trying to think

475
00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 4: the last time Diddy was was popular. It might have

476
00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:58,520
Speaker 4: been when he made that guy Zilla song or whatever.

477
00:24:58,680 --> 00:24:59,960
Speaker 4: It's just a long time a longe.

478
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,240
Speaker 1: Yeah that was the early two thousands.

479
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, bro, it's been a minute, and so I don't

480
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:10,240
Speaker 4: I doubt he'll be able to like make it back

481
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,520
Speaker 4: musically in that way. But what I do fear is

482
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:17,760
Speaker 4: that he'll socially make it back, meaning you'll start seeing

483
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:20,760
Speaker 4: people that take a picture with them, or he was

484
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:24,920
Speaker 4: invited to this event, or you know, or just maybe

485
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Speaker 4: even just a statement of like, oh Diddy is very

486
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,200
Speaker 4: hurt that he was not invited to the Soul Train

487
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:33,240
Speaker 4: Awards or just some bullshit like that. I think you'll see,

488
00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:37,160
Speaker 4: but I think it'll kind of be like how Kanye

489
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:40,960
Speaker 4: is a little bit where he's around, but nobody's really

490
00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:42,440
Speaker 4: messing with Kanye like that.

491
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Speaker 5: Yeah, you don't see artists signing up to do things,

492
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 5: nobody's clawing out him to make their beats and none

493
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:48,960
Speaker 5: of that.

494
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:51,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, he has songs that come out every once in

495
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Speaker 4: a while, but none of them are charting, Which I mean,

496
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Speaker 4: if you had told me ten years ago even I

497
00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:00,919
Speaker 4: would have said, you're a damn liar. Right, Like, like

498
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 4: ten years from now, nobody's Kanye West will have a

499
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,879
Speaker 4: whole year with not one song on the top. However,

500
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:10,200
Speaker 4: many hip hop I'll be like, that's impossible. Is did

501
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:12,919
Speaker 4: he die? Like what is? And now I'm like, oh no,

502
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:16,679
Speaker 4: I totally see it. So I'm hopeful did he just

503
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:22,439
Speaker 4: loses his cultural relevance even more? And that it just

504
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:24,480
Speaker 4: you know, he just starts looking like a clinger on

505
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 4: Loser that he probably always has been, but now people

506
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 4: will be able to see through it.

507
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Speaker 1: Yeah, to your point about Kanye, the next time his

508
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 1: music truly is relevant probably will be when he dies.

509
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:39,960
Speaker 1: I mean that's usually when when an artist passes away,

510
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 1: that it just they explode again for a period of time,

511
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 1: you know, as people remember. Yeah, I would imagine that's

512
00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:48,600
Speaker 1: got to mean he says he I just saw something

513
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 1: from yesterday that he's got a new album he's working on,

514
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:54,720
Speaker 1: or one coming soon, and I mean, it's just there's

515
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,240
Speaker 1: no way he's going to get the full on press

516
00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 1: tour and whatever it takes to make it work.

517
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,920
Speaker 4: But right, you know, it's bad. We know it's bad

518
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 4: for Kanye because people do work with him on his

519
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:09,639
Speaker 4: albums and I don't even get mad at them because

520
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,680
Speaker 4: I don't listen. I don't know, like, yeah, I'm sure

521
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 4: if I go look him up on Spotify right now,

522
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 4: his last album probably has some features on it where

523
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 4: I'm like, oh wow, Chance the Rapper or whatever, and

524
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:21,879
Speaker 4: no one's even mad at those people. We're all just

525
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 4: like whatever.

526
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Speaker 5: And I ess in my mind when it comes to Kanye,

527
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:31,639
Speaker 5: I'm like, y'all do know he's office med like like

528
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:32,920
Speaker 5: like in my brain, I.

529
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 4: Have some form of empathy.

530
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Speaker 5: To an extent because I was like, oh no, no, no,

531
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,439
Speaker 5: no no no, like this is not a normal functioning brain.

532
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,720
Speaker 5: So I can't really give you all my undivided attention,

533
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 5: you know, for me personally.

534
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:49,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, one of the like ways I guess those

535
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:53,679
Speaker 1: artists are the kind of canceled artists are still getting

536
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:57,159
Speaker 1: out and finding I guess a level of income that

537
00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:01,880
Speaker 1: they need is like going over are going to Saudi Arabia,

538
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 1: you know, going somewhere and performing and get and getting

539
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:08,199
Speaker 1: paid handsomely for it. Some blowback from that, you know,

540
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 1: for for a lot of folks laers. The've just had

541
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 1: a comedy festival in Riod, you know that that all

542
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:18,920
Speaker 1: the comics were just getting crushed for going over uh

543
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 1: and performing there. But on the flip side. For years,

544
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:26,399
Speaker 1: pop stars like Beyonce have gone over and performed for

545
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 1: the Kings and not necessarily gotten that long standing like blowback.

546
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 2: Why why do you think that? Is that?

547
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 1: The like that right now, comedians in general are getting

548
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 1: seen or being held to a higher standard in that regard.

549
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 2: Are you familiar with that story?

550
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 4: Yes?

551
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,719
Speaker 5: For me personally, a lot of these comedians they stood

552
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 5: they still don't be business. They consistently would talk shit

553
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 5: about other comedians about how.

554
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 4: They were doing it wrong. A lot of them.

555
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 5: Stood on They're very righteous about their decision making and

556
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 5: things like that. So going over there was the opposite

557
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 5: of everything that they stood for for some of them.

558
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:06,600
Speaker 5: Like the thing is, people say that, but nobody said

559
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 5: that about Kevin Hart. Why because they know Kevin Hart's

560
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 5: about that money. So it don't matter where he pop up,

561
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, Like, he's very neutral, you

562
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, He's not trying to offend nobody,

563
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 5: He'm not trying to make nobody mad.

564
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 4: So for he was kind of the exception to the rule.

565
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 5: But a lot of these people have very big podcasts,

566
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 5: very loud voices, and they talk a lot of shit.

567
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 5: So people are going to be like, hey, I'm your

568
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 5: audience member, I follow you.

569
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 4: Going over there is.

570
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 5: The opposite of everything you just told me on your podcast,

571
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 5: And so that's why a lot of them got to

572
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 5: thlow back.

573
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's very interesting because like Bill Burr

574
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 4: is one of the people who deride it Beyonce performing

575
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 4: at like either in the wedding or something like that,

576
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 4: and then he's now defending himself performing at the behest

577
00:29:56,840 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 4: of the Saudi Prince and the is and that that,

578
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 4: you know, comes directly from the people that you know,

579
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 4: murder journalists, you know, So like it is, it's I

580
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 4: think it's more interesting to me that comedians. And I'm

581
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 4: a big fan of comedy, big fan of stand up,

582
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 4: big fan of Bill Berry, even big fan of Chappelle

583
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 4: you know as well. But it's just greed, right, Like

584
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 4: we want it all. We want to be seen as

585
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 4: the philosophers, the more arbiters, the people that tell the

586
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 4: truth no matter what. But then it's like when it's

587
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 4: their turning, like I just need to get a check, man, y'all,

588
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 4: calm down. What's the problem. I can't go get a check.

589
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 4: My guys are getting checked right, I'm accepted to the room.

590
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 4: So I think that's why they're catching more heat because

591
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 4: somebody like Beyonce, she's not really like her job in

592
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 4: a song is to do one thing, but it's not

593
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 4: the same as like getting up and doing a stand

594
00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 4: up set or doing a podcast or whatever, where you're like,

595
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 4: let me call some ball to strikes, tell you guys

596
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 4: who's right and wrong. And so maybe in that way,

597
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 4: some of these artists get to live in a gray

598
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 4: area where they make music but you don't really know

599
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,959
Speaker 4: what they're about. Comedians are kind of like, no, if

600
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 4: you listen to my stand up, you know what I'm

601
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 4: really about. So I think maybe that hurt him a lot.

602
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 4: And then also you have the inter comedian jealousy and

603
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 4: other stuff where like comedians that didn't get to call

604
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 4: or comedians that turned the call down are like, well,

605
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 4: how the hell you going over there? So I think

606
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 4: that's another reason that that thing caught fire in a

607
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 4: way that it might not with music, because like, if

608
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 4: Rihanna wants to go over there and perform, maybe there's

609
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 4: some artists that calls her out, but none of us

610
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 4: is really like listening to that artist, like what Rihanna

611
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 4: didn't perform, was you know that? Amy Marie said she

612
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 4: don't like that. We'll be like whatever, man. But when

613
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 4: Bill Burd doesn't perform and then the person calling him

614
00:31:56,360 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 4: out is like the number one podcaster in the world, whatever,

615
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 4: It's like, okay, yeah, that that might get a little

616
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 4: bit more traction.

617
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 1: I thought it was interesting the all the comedians that

618
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 1: were just that were not on the show, that were

619
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 1: hating on those that were on the show. And I'm like,

620
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 1: do you think they're not gonna do another one next year?

621
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 1: Like you're you're hurting yourself to get booked or you're

622
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 1: gonna make yourself look like an idiot when you do

623
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 1: take the booking now is yes, it's gonna be you know.

624
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 4: I mean. The truth is like, if you're morally convicted

625
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 4: in a way that says I would never take that money,

626
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 4: no matter how much it is, then you have every

627
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 4: right to say how you feel. You know what I'm saying, Like,

628
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 4: because you're right, the ones who are taking shots, and

629
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 4: then next year they'll be over there. They're gonna catch

630
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 4: hell for this time they are, you know what I mean.

631
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 4: But the but if like if every year they have

632
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 4: that festival, and every year Mark Marin is like, f

633
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 4: those guys. I'll be like, I can respect that too,

634
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 4: because he's there's no price. He'll ever say, Okay, I'm

635
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 4: compromise of my morals. I guess I was wrong. So

636
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 4: it really just depends. But I think comedians, and I'm

637
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 4: sure you know this, it's so cut through competitive and

638
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 4: there's so many that like pretend to have super high

639
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 4: morals that really is just like I didn't get offered

640
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 4: that payday because I've seen people like chastised comedians for

641
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 4: taking roles in movies or something. They're like, you took

642
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 4: that role, that movie's not even good, And I'm like, so,

643
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 4: are you telling me you turned down the Pluto Nash money?

644
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 4: Is that what you're telling me? You're gonna be like, no,

645
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 4: I refuse. I listen. I'm an open micer, but I

646
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 4: refuse to work with Eddie Murky and Pluto Nash. No,

647
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 4: you're gonna take the money. Yeah, yeah, so I definitely will.

648
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 4: We'll find out who's real and who's not when that

649
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 4: next round of of opening shows up. I guess over

650
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 4: there right.

651
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm looking forward to it, honestly, because there's gonna

652
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 1: be a lot of receipts uh in regards to this,

653
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 1: But I thought I always got that, you know, more work,

654
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 1: more opportunity, more, you know, more.

655
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 2: Of these festivals, like that's a that was a big festival.

656
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:11,439
Speaker 1: Like more opportunity to spread your art was a good thing,

657
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 1: you know. The the opportunity to have a new audience

658
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:18,760
Speaker 1: here and see you and listen to you and buy

659
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:22,359
Speaker 1: into was a good thing. And maybe you could make

660
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,399
Speaker 1: change that way. But it's just in this I think it.

661
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 4: Depends, right cause, like like I work for I wrote

662
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 4: for a sports show on HBO Gang Theory with Omonic Jones,

663
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 4: and we used to do these like essays at the

664
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 4: end of each episode, like sometimes ten sometimes twenty minutes,

665
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 4: and one of them was on sports washing, right, and

666
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 4: how sports washing is basically when very powerful people that

667
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 4: may have nefarious agendas align themselves with something very very

668
00:34:56,600 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 4: popular that everyone loves and then by car we end

669
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 4: up loving. We loved the thing so much we overlooked

670
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 4: the people and the flaws of those who hold it

671
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 4: for us. Right, And at the time, a big thing

672
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:13,319
Speaker 4: was like Saudi Arabia and.

673
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 3: Golf, righty, Saudi Arabia that live golf, Yeah, live golf,

674
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 3: and and you know, I understood the misgivings about it,

675
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 3: but like Phil Michelson went over first and he got

676
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 3: hell see it like everyone was just like Phil Milkers

677
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 3: and his sellout.

678
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 4: He ended up being right. Well, I won't say right,

679
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 4: but he was just early meaning if he was wrong,

680
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 4: then a lot of other people joined him and being

681
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 4: wrong because the money is the money. And eventually everybody

682
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 4: was golfing over there would live after at first being

683
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:47,320
Speaker 4: kind of like listen, no, not on my American soil

684
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 4: or what they were like, Okay, you know how much

685
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:52,400
Speaker 4: are they paying to good? So I think the and

686
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 4: then what we related it to, which is one of

687
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 4: the reasons I love working on that show. We didn't

688
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:02,240
Speaker 4: just go all Saudi Arabia. These these other people across

689
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 4: the globe, this other country and their beliefs and their

690
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 4: religion and their brownness. They're bad people. That's not like

691
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 4: us in America. We went back to like American sports

692
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 4: and we were like, what do you think SEC football is? Right?

693
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 4: Like the southeastern part of the United States has a

694
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 4: long history of racial terrorism in America, Yes, but you know,

695
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 4: but you know what makes that washing would that go

696
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 4: down a little bit smoother or look nice long sip

697
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:35,479
Speaker 4: of football, you'll kind of forget that, like the black

698
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 4: people can't sit with the white people in this stadium

699
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:39,840
Speaker 4: if we're all just here to watch a good old

700
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 4: game of the pigskin. And so I like that we

701
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:49,320
Speaker 4: were able to talk about the moral relativism because sports

702
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 4: washing works, and in this case, comedy washing it works,

703
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 4: and it will work eventually, and it'll be interesting to

704
00:36:56,960 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 4: see who thinks they're winning, because once again, the most

705
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 4: positive spin is, hey, maybe somebody over there heres the

706
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:08,360
Speaker 4: freedom coming out of Bill Burrn Dave Chappelle's microphones and

707
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 4: they go, Man, that's given me some ideas to change

708
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:15,439
Speaker 4: my society. But the other part is maybe the rest

709
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 4: of us here Dave Chappelle and Bill Burr chastising us

710
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 4: forever having a problem with them going, and it makes

711
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 4: it seem like sometimes it's okay to kill a journalist,

712
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 4: you know, like, hey, look if Bill ain't got a

713
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 4: problem with and wash it out. And so it kind

714
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 4: is kind of cash twenty two and you don't really

715
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 4: know who's gonna win that battle for years. If anyone ever.

716
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 1: Does right, No, it makes a lot of sense. I

717
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 1: love that you brought up that Phil Michelson was the

718
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 1: first like one of the first guys that went over there.

719
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 1: But when you think about it, he had to be.

720
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 1: I mean, he was a big star, and he's got

721
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 1: a lot of gambling debts. I mean, how's he going

722
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 1: to pay for all that if he doesn't have a giteau?

723
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's all you Listen. I'm sure when he looked

724
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 4: at his checking account and you looked at that, that

725
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 4: that that check they were gonna write, he was like,

726
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 4: I don't think anything's wrong with side, Like it is

727
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 4: all good. I think we should be a lot less

728
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 4: judgment around here.

729
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:12,360
Speaker 2: Oh yeah.

730
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 1: Uh So in regards to like the comics and everything

731
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 1: before and after now of this, uh this comedy festival,

732
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 1: do you think they're gonna be a little more hesitant

733
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 1: on what they say on their own podcast like on

734
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 1: their platforms, because it felt and it has been podcasts

735
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 1: are an easy form without restriction to kind of just

736
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 1: say what you think. Do you think there's gonna be

737
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:37,839
Speaker 1: a little more hesitancy to that now?

738
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 4: I think so, I mean just because they won't be

739
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 4: able to help it, like like they've they're caught so

740
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:50,879
Speaker 4: much flak, and lets face it, comedians are extremely self interested. Yeah,

741
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 4: I mean, you know you don't get on the stage

742
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 4: because you don't.

743
00:38:55,280 --> 00:39:01,400
Speaker 2: That's right, So that they like the solo feel of it,

744
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 2: like this is me, I'm here.

745
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, And they're obsessed with the feedback, right like like

746
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 4: you know, it's one of the beautiful things about stand

747
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:13,279
Speaker 4: up is you get immediate feedback. So I have a

748
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 4: hard time believing that they won't fill some level of

749
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:20,319
Speaker 4: at least like, man, if I say this after what

750
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:23,399
Speaker 4: I did and the way I got pushed back, I'm

751
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:25,400
Speaker 4: gonna get pushed back again. I don't know that it

752
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:28,400
Speaker 4: will change their point of view one hundred percent, but

753
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 4: I'm sure there'll be some things they think twice about saying.

754
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:34,320
Speaker 4: I'm sure you know, like I love Bill Bird, but

755
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 4: I'm sure there's just from the way he's bristled at

756
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:40,319
Speaker 4: some of the critique, there's no way he's getting on

757
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 4: a microphone and not thinking like if I'm the one

758
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 4: to say this thing now, or will I be immediately

759
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 4: laughed out the room When I'm telling people billionaires are

760
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 4: terrible people, but not the Saudi billionaires that pay for

761
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 4: my economy.

762
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:59,959
Speaker 1: That's right, sometimes you just gotta throw that that bit away,

763
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 1: I guess, and uh, yeah, that's funny.

764
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 4: Uh.

765
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 1: So you guys, while I was on your show, you

766
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 1: were talking about you live either in you live in Carolina, right.

767
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 4: Yes, Charlotte, North Carolina, Charlotte.

768
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 2: Yeah.

769
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:20,360
Speaker 1: The Panthers, man, uh still alive for the playoffs.

770
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 2: How do you feel about their chances.

771
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 4: Playing for it all? This Saturday man against the Bucks? Yeah,

772
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 4: didn't didn't they move that game or something like that, like,

773
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:31,319
Speaker 4: oh they moved out?

774
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 5: I don't know, No, I don't think it was originally

775
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 5: for Saturday, but I think they was like, hey, this

776
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 5: is gonna be a big game, let's put it on prodcast.

777
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, Oh I did not know that. That's that's

778
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:48,880
Speaker 4: really dope. Yeah. So we I mean, I'm excited for

779
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 4: him because we haven't had good uh football in Charlotte,

780
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 4: North Carolina for a long time. So us having even

781
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:02,399
Speaker 4: a chance at making the playoffs is much more than

782
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 4: anyone had us penciled in for. And I don't know

783
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 4: that it'll necessarily mean anything, but once you get in

784
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 4: the playoffs, you know you have a chance at the

785
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 4: super Bowl like anybody else. So I think we're actually

786
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 4: in the best part of being a fan, which is

787
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:23,879
Speaker 4: this part where you had extremely low expectations and your

788
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 4: team's not necessarily good, but they're beating all the expectations

789
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 4: so you can have a fun time at the end

790
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 4: of the year. And I think that's all you can

791
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:34,319
Speaker 4: really hope for from sports. Yeah.

792
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:38,719
Speaker 1: Agree, you're in the absolute like gravy right now where

793
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:40,799
Speaker 1: you just have what we're good.

794
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 2: Oh, we're gonna make them.

795
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 1: Oh we're have shot the playoffs and you didn't expect

796
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 1: that at the beginning of the year. Oh, that is the

797
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:47,880
Speaker 1: best feeling that you can.

798
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 4: Have as a fan. Yeah, it's like the opposite of

799
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 4: the Steelers, right, Like the Steelers keep finishing above five

800
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 4: hundred going to the playoffs, but those guys could not be

801
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 4: more miserable, correct, they they're aid to fire everybody, get

802
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 4: rid of everything. And it's just like, man, you know,

803
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 4: to me from my respective, I'm like, I kill for

804
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:10,839
Speaker 4: that level of consistency of like consistent at least every

805
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 4: year you know to buy your Round one playoff ticket,

806
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:15,840
Speaker 4: but not us, we don't know what's happening.

807
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:16,959
Speaker 2: Man.

808
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 1: As a Chargers fan, I always know we got a

809
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 1: shot at a playoff, you know game, The question is

810
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 1: just how are we going to lose it in dramatic

811
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:29,280
Speaker 1: fashion to just crush us for the entire all season,

812
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 1: Like that's just every year. It doesn't matter the coaching staff,

813
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter the player, the studed quarterback.

814
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter who it is. We will lose in

815
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 2: devastating fashion.

816
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 4: It is kind of crazy that that happened, in that

817
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 4: it doesn't matter what happens. But the charges have been

818
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:52,400
Speaker 4: the same my entire life.

819
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 1: My wife the other at the we played Houston on

820
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:00,759
Speaker 1: Saturday and it felt like that just like what could

821
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 1: go wrong went wrong, and she goes, man, I think,

822
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 1: I think this game's cursed, and I'm like this game,

823
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:08,280
Speaker 1: this team, this team's been cursed forever.

824
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 2: Like it doesn't matter the week, it's this is what

825
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 2: it's like. It's just terrible. I don't know.

826
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 1: And my poor son, he didn't choose this life. He

827
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:20,800
Speaker 1: was born into it. It's just terrible for him.

828
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:24,359
Speaker 4: Do you feel bad as a parent for putting that

829
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:26,799
Speaker 4: on your kid? Like you could have picked any team

830
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:29,440
Speaker 4: to make him a fan, but you were like, no,

831
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 4: you're gonna follow in dad's footsteps. And you like this misery.

832
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:35,759
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, because like as a father, like that is

833
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 1: the dream you got the you know, you got your

834
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:39,240
Speaker 1: son and he's like, oh, he's gonna love your teams

835
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 1: and we're gonna root for him together. But then then

836
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:45,880
Speaker 1: once you know that happens, then you realize, well, you

837
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 1: picked like teams that are just devastating to your like

838
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 1: your to your.

839
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:52,719
Speaker 2: Mental capacity, like this this is not good.

840
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 1: Like you look what you've done to this kid, like

841
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 1: it's a it's very depressing.

842
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:00,839
Speaker 4: I wonder if there's any parents out there that broke

843
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 4: the cycle, you know, like they were a Jets fan,

844
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:05,880
Speaker 4: but they were like, I'm not raising my kid to

845
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 4: be a Jets fan. It's not gonna happen. And then

846
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 4: what happened to me? My kid is a Chiefs fan. Okay,

847
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 4: he's gonna like Patrick Mahomes and damn well he better

848
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 4: he better get used to winning around here.

849
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 1: Well, you know, to your point, my dad was a

850
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 1: Padres fan, so I grew up a San Diego Padres fan.

851
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:28,439
Speaker 1: But my younger brother, he's four years younger, he never

852
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 1: got into the Padres so he he was growing up

853
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 1: as in elementary during the nineties and became a Yankees

854
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 1: fan in the midst of everything that happened, you know,

855
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:40,479
Speaker 1: with the Yankees there.

856
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 2: So he's had all these.

857
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 1: Championships and all this fun and all the shit talk,

858
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:48,839
Speaker 1: and I'm just like, you're lucky, bastard, like this, this

859
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 1: is not you're supposed to be depressed.

860
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:54,319
Speaker 4: My dad is a Duke fan, and I grew up

861
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 4: a Carolina Chapel Hill fan.

862
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 5: And.

863
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 4: Man, it was it was. It was a bomb. It

864
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 4: was way better than being a Duke fan at the time,

865
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:07,879
Speaker 4: you know, even though Duke like won from championships. Man,

866
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 4: but like Carolina at that time was just so much cooler.

867
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:13,840
Speaker 4: It's like, all right, like I wanted to be like

868
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 4: the players that played at Carolina. It's like, oh, man,

869
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 4: Vince Carter, Shee Wallace and Twine Jamie, like these are

870
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 4: all fun guys. And then Duke guys, except for Grant Hill,

871
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:25,759
Speaker 4: were all guys that I just looked at like I

872
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 4: don't ever want to even hang out with them. So, uh,

873
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 4: you know, shout out to my dad for not trying

874
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 4: to force me into being a Duke fan.

875
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's legit, because I was going to ask you, like,

876
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 1: how did he allow this? Like that's the complete opposite

877
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 1: of what he couldn't He.

878
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:40,799
Speaker 4: Couldn't stop me once I got out the house and

879
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 4: saw how cool everybody else no one thought Duke players

880
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 4: were cool. That was not That's nothing he can do

881
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:47,759
Speaker 4: about that.

882
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:50,799
Speaker 1: How is it that Duke consistently and it doesn't matter

883
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 1: the era, it doesn't matter the season. I mean, they

884
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:59,280
Speaker 1: keep getting these these guys every year and they're always

885
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 1: different dudes. They come in and you just hate them.

886
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:07,400
Speaker 1: There's not a thing to like about them. It's always

887
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 1: a short haired white guy every time, and he's awful, awful,

888
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 1: like I.

889
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:17,720
Speaker 4: Just like, uh, I feel like they they have successfully

890
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:21,799
Speaker 4: transitioned to the one and done thing. Yeah, to where

891
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 4: he didn't cat too much for that at first. Yeah,

892
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:27,399
Speaker 4: but where you can't they're not sticking around long enough

893
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:30,759
Speaker 4: to hate him anymoreymore. Yeah, Yeah, I hatred. It ain't

894
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 4: life that it used to be. Like if now, if

895
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 4: you find a guy who stays for more than two years,

896
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:39,239
Speaker 4: you will hate him, like it's just they just their

897
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:42,719
Speaker 4: best players are no longer those guys anymore. But those

898
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 4: used to be their best guys, Like, like those guys

899
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 4: will stick around, like uh jj Reddick stuck around so long. Yeah,

900
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 4: I was like, don't leave, get the hell out of here.

901
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 4: No one wants to see you doing this three point

902
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:58,480
Speaker 4: bs anymore. He just kept doing it. So yeah, it's

903
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 4: something changed in the last like teen years to where like,

904
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:03,800
Speaker 4: I mean, you look at the NBA, like half of

905
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:05,920
Speaker 4: the guys are just duke guys, but you wouldn't know

906
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 4: it because you're like, did this guy even when did

907
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:10,400
Speaker 4: he play there? I don't remember when did he play there?

908
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:13,239
Speaker 4: I don't remember Jalen Johnson playing a game for Duke.

909
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 4: Shaden Sharp went the duke when? When? When was this

910
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 4: desion Winners to play like four games? Kyrie Irvin like

911
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:24,879
Speaker 4: got hurt and barely played like so so I don't

912
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 4: hate those guys, but but it's mostly because they weren't

913
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 4: there a long. Yeah.

914
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:32,239
Speaker 1: I was just gonna say Kyrie, I forgot he was

915
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:34,240
Speaker 1: even a duke, but he only played like eight games.

916
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 2: He was just so freaking talented.

917
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 1: He still pick so high. Cooper Flagg's probably the last

918
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 1: guy that you can remember then that was like a

919
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 1: duke guy that you hate, and he I don't even

920
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:47,919
Speaker 1: think he was there all that long.

921
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:51,440
Speaker 4: He was there for one year and he's not even

922
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:56,400
Speaker 4: to me, he's not even that hatable like he and

923
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:57,799
Speaker 4: I think a big part of why he's not that

924
00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 4: hatable though, is because he he hung around with a

925
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 4: bunch of NBA players and played in like those like

926
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 4: Team USA Scrimmages and all those NBA players, Like this

927
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:11,440
Speaker 4: guy's the real deal. So it's kind of hard to

928
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 4: hate a guy when like Lebron James and Kevin Durant

929
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:18,360
Speaker 4: are telling you, like, this guy's really cool. But I

930
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 4: feel like the last one they had was Grayson Allen.

931
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:25,759
Speaker 4: He's the last real like Duke. The last og of

932
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 4: Duke is Grayson Allen. That I don't know anyone who

933
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 4: likes him, and if you do like him, I don't

934
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 4: like you.

935
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was trying to be hated. I mean, he

936
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 1: was really leveling up to that being the devil out there,

937
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:41,319
Speaker 1: you know.

938
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's out there tripping people and shit.

939
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:45,400
Speaker 3: M h.

940
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:48,359
Speaker 2: Speaking to NBA.

941
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:51,279
Speaker 1: I was just seeing this morning Kevin Durant. I don't

942
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 1: know if it was a podcast or a show he

943
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 1: was on, but he was talking about how he doesn't

944
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:03,239
Speaker 1: really like to shower now he's you know, I don't know.

945
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 1: Sometimes I wonder if guys or gals that are like

946
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 1: on another level of income that just they're not really

947
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 1: you know, they're not grocery shoping. You know, they're just

948
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 1: they're on this other level, and sometimes they say things.

949
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 2: To try to feel like they are relatable.

950
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:22,920
Speaker 1: Right, do you do you think maybe that's what this

951
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 1: was and he got it wrong because we still like showering, right,

952
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 1: isn't that our thing?

953
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:28,759
Speaker 2: We're still showering out here.

954
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:30,799
Speaker 5: Uh.

955
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:33,840
Speaker 4: If there's anybody who believes ball is life, it's definitely

956
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:39,359
Speaker 4: kt kt Okay, Yeah, well hoopers. The people that love

957
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 4: Kevin Durant, the reason they love him is because he's

958
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 4: We've never seen a guy so dedicated to only basketball.

959
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 4: That's the only basketball. You know, Like everybody else that

960
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 4: we love is like kind of a mobul you know, like, yeah,

961
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 4: it's like Steph Curry has his shoes, he's got a

962
00:49:56,719 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 4: movie coming out that's like a cartoon movie. Yeah, his

963
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:03,719
Speaker 4: wife is like a chef. You know. Of course, Lebron's

964
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 4: his fingers and everything with Hollywood and all these other

965
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:10,920
Speaker 4: sports leagues. Kevin Durant just likes basketball and talking about

966
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 4: basketball and going on Twitter and harassing people about basketball

967
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:18,720
Speaker 4: like it. So if you would have given I believe

968
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 4: without knowing if he would have given me a multiple

969
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 4: choice test that and he was one of the answers

970
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 4: of like which one of these basketball players said they

971
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:29,879
Speaker 4: don't shower, I feel like I would have picked him. Yeah,

972
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:35,400
Speaker 4: So so maybe that's how he's like getting by with

973
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 4: it that we all kind of have the same like, well,

974
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 4: what are we gonna tell Kevin Durant. He clearly doesn't.

975
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:43,279
Speaker 4: He doesn't care about his hair. No, one doesn't care

976
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:46,799
Speaker 4: about putting all love ship may be joking him. Yeah, yeah,

977
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:50,000
Speaker 4: Like this guy just is in all time. Basketball is

978
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:52,440
Speaker 4: the only thing that matters to me. Guy, right, And

979
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:54,600
Speaker 4: so maybe that's why he gets the slide because I mean,

980
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:57,920
Speaker 4: he's still so good and he's like, who gonna look

981
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:01,719
Speaker 4: him in his you need to show. But it's funny though,

982
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 4: because like we gave we gave Lebron hell for his hairline.

983
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:08,839
Speaker 4: We still do and we're and he's tall too, yeah

984
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:11,520
Speaker 4: he is. But we all know Kevin Durant, he don't

985
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:13,880
Speaker 4: even bother him. Kevin Durant look at you, like, and

986
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:16,400
Speaker 4: what what you're gonna do? Nothing?

987
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:19,719
Speaker 2: Nothing, man. He's a sniper out there on the court,

988
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:23,879
Speaker 2: that's for sure. He's awesome. All right.

989
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:28,200
Speaker 1: Well, Rot and Karen the Black Guy Who Tips podcast, Uh,

990
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 1: tell us, what do you got coming up?

991
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 2: Let's uh, let's promote it.

992
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 4: To the Okay, yeah, so, uh, the first thing we

993
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:40,560
Speaker 4: have coming up is in April from the ninth through

994
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 4: the twelfth, I believe we're gonna be in Las Vegas

995
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:47,239
Speaker 4: for something called pod Jam three. Google pod Jam three.

996
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:49,280
Speaker 4: You can see what tickets cost and all that stuff.

997
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:52,840
Speaker 4: So we're definitely looking forward to that as our next

998
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 4: like big event. And then of course we'll just be

999
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:58,799
Speaker 4: doing our podcast at The Black Guy Who Tips dot

1000
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 4: com or just search The Black Got Tips everywhere you

1001
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 4: get podcasts and check us out. I know tomorrow we're

1002
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:09,640
Speaker 4: having Pete Dominic on as a guest for our show,

1003
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:12,440
Speaker 4: so we'll be talking to him about his life story

1004
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:16,200
Speaker 4: and interviewing him and maybe do some current events and whatnot.

1005
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 4: And and so those are the main things to look

1006
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Speaker 4: out for with us.

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00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:23,760
Speaker 1: That's awesome, Like those.

1008
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:24,480
Speaker 4: Are the main things.

1009
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 5: And we also in addition to that, we also if

1010
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 5: you want like additional shows, we have to do premium shows.

1011
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:33,160
Speaker 5: We don't Patreon and things like that now, so you

1012
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 5: can find us if you're want like extrarod and caring

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Speaker 5: outside of our regular shows that we.

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Speaker 2: Do very dnes We got the Patreon.

1015
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:42,840
Speaker 1: You can find them on the Arart Radio app and

1016
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 1: anywhere else that you find your favorite podcast. Las Vegas

1017
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:48,320
Speaker 1: you got do you play Blackjack?

1018
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 4: I've never been to Las Vegas before and I've never

1019
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 4: really gambled, so I'm ready to see what what it

1020
00:52:56,640 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 4: looks like I hear is not it's more epecially than

1021
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 4: it used to being that I'm saying. So maybe you know,

1022
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:05,439
Speaker 4: maybe I'm I'm going at the right time because I'll

1023
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:07,319
Speaker 4: be like, oh no, I don't need again. Boy. I

1024
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 4: scared to lose all my money that I just made

1025
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:12,600
Speaker 4: off this gig. I have a budget. So when I

1026
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 4: when my.

1027
00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:14,920
Speaker 5: Dad last day of leaving, like all right, I'm going,

1028
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 5: you're gonna do my budget meet my by so that

1029
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:18,800
Speaker 5: means I go bye bye.

1030
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:21,480
Speaker 2: Stick to the budget. That is the plan. Stick to

1031
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:25,360
Speaker 2: the budget. That's awesome. All right, Rod Carrott, thank you

1032
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:27,360
Speaker 2: so much for giving.

1033
00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:28,880
Speaker 4: Me some time here today.

1034
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 2: Awesome.

1035
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:33,600
Speaker 1: All right, Absolutely we will we'll talk again. Thank you

1036
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 1: so much.