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Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.

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Speaker 2: Cowboys.

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Speaker 3: This is Cowboys Storyline with Nick Eatman.

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Speaker 4: What is up? Everyone? Welcome to Cowboys Storyline February the first,

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Speaker 4: twenty twenty four, and I'm joined by the man Darren Woodson.

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Speaker 5: What's up, Nick?

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Speaker 4: What is going on?

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Speaker 6: Is it?

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Speaker 5: What? Wednesday was? Actually Thursday? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Thursdays and any day you want to come come over.

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Speaker 5: You get hitting the head for thirteen straight years, dude,

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Speaker 5: things happen.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't. I don't know what my excuse is.

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Speaker 4: It just happened. Anyways, I don't know I've been hitting

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Speaker 4: the head.

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Speaker 7: Uh.

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Speaker 4: Anyways, Uh, you guys, a lot of stuff going on.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna talk about that. We'll talk about how the

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Speaker 4: season ended. A lot of people are trying to move on,

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Speaker 4: but with you here, Darren, I'm trying to.

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Speaker 5: Move on as well, man, But hey, let's bring it back.

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Speaker 4: I just want to get your thoughts on that and

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Speaker 4: also how you kind of can get bounced back from that.

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Speaker 4: All right, aight, aight a eight five five two two

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Speaker 4: ninety seven. Already have a couple of callers on the line.

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Speaker 4: We got Darren for about twenty minutes or so here,

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Speaker 4: So we'll we'll get off. We'll get to the phone

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Speaker 4: calls here in a second, but first I do want

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Speaker 4: to just talk to you. We got some breaking news

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Speaker 4: going on here, and Quinn, defensive coordinator, is taking a

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Speaker 4: job with the Washington Commanders. Are your thoughts on that one?

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Speaker 6: Well, you know, you k know you're gonna lose Dan

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Speaker 6: at some point, you knew that was gonna happen. He

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Speaker 6: probably probably should have lost him last year. And look,

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Speaker 6: I think there's a lot of those who are are

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Speaker 6: still burning hot from the last game of the season.

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Speaker 6: They're saying, well, he didn't do you know, the defense

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Speaker 6: didn't play up to the par How could he get

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Speaker 6: a new job or blah blah blah. Look the guy

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Speaker 6: is his track record over the last couple of years

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Speaker 6: has been remarkable, and I thought it was one of

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Speaker 6: the best stage last year as far as keeping people,

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Speaker 6: even players within the organization. I thought that was one

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Speaker 6: of the best keepers last year and finding a way

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Speaker 6: to keep Dan Quinn on staff. I'm happy for him.

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Speaker 6: I think he's long overdue for a head coaching job.

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Speaker 6: I don't like the fact that he's in the division.

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Speaker 6: But at the same time, look his track record of

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Speaker 6: what he's been able to accomplish, whether it be in

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Speaker 6: of Doom, and then moving on to Atlanta and going

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Speaker 6: to the Super Bowl with that team, and then coming

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Speaker 6: to Dallas and changing things around. Look, I just got

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Speaker 6: a ton of respect for dan Quainne, even though you

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Speaker 6: know what they went through the season. You know, even

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Speaker 6: with going through the season, they had a great season.

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Speaker 6: He put guys in the right.

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Speaker 5: Position to win games. Just so happened. It didn't happen

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Speaker 5: for him. And in the end.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm sure I'll get a chance later on in

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Speaker 4: the show to I'll be asked about it. I'll throw

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Speaker 4: my two cents in later in the show. But yeah,

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Speaker 4: I mean I agree with with everything that you said.

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Speaker 4: All right, let's just get to the phone line. Let's

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Speaker 4: try to get as many callers that can talk to

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Speaker 4: you as possible here. So let's go to Brian in

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Speaker 4: Kansas City.

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Speaker 8: First up, Good afternoon, gentlemen. Well I'm a little sick today,

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Speaker 8: which is why I'm home from work. But I am

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Speaker 8: really glad because I've never been able to call in

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Speaker 8: and on a day when Woody's there nice, So it

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Speaker 8: is a pleasure to talk to you, sir.

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Speaker 5: Yeah you too.

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Speaker 4: B Well, Brian always asks me like a former player

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Speaker 4: and give a story or whatever. So I'm hoping maybe

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Speaker 4: you'll ask Darren, a player that you he'll have some great,

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Speaker 4: great stories on any of these guys.

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Speaker 9: Yeah. Absolutely, So I got two questions, and then of

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Speaker 9: course I'll hang up and listen so other people can participate.

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Speaker 9: My first question is, if you're one of the guys

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Speaker 9: you have an opinion on any of the safeties coming

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Speaker 9: out this year? And my other question is something close

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Speaker 9: to what Nick just said, but maybe a favorite mentor

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Speaker 9: as you were coming up and through the ranks. I'll

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Speaker 9: hang up and listen, and y'all have a great show.

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Speaker 6: To answer your first quest, I should I have no idea.

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Speaker 6: I remember my ESPN days of having to watch you know,

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Speaker 6: the entire football season and then watch you know, the

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Speaker 5: I'm not That's not my deal anyet. I'm clueless. I'm clueless.

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Speaker 4: I mean, there's another show that just they did They.

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Speaker 5: Just left out the draft show call mel Kiper.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the one the all over it. I'm not there

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Speaker 4: yet either, And I don't even know if that would

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Speaker 4: be your top priority thinking about because they signed MALIEK.

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Speaker 4: Cooker and they signed Donovan Wilson. So I don't think

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Speaker 4: they're going to be looking at safeties that high in

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Speaker 4: the draft that they never really do it.

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Speaker 5: They never do anyway, right, So that's not happening.

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Speaker 6: But there's some free agent pickups maybe that that that

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Speaker 6: look at. As for your second question, as far as mentors, look,

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Speaker 6: I had so many guys that that mentored me through

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Speaker 6: the process. That Tony Tolbert was a guy, uh when

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Speaker 6: being a defensive end, really took me under arm and

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Speaker 6: you know, taught me how to be a professional. Jim

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Speaker 6: Jeffcote another one that took me under his wing. James Washington,

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Speaker 6: Thomas Everett, Ray Horton. I mean, these guys came in

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Speaker 6: gave me a ton of knowledge, gave me an understanding

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Speaker 6: I was oblivious to understanding what was going on there,

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Speaker 5: So uh, those are those are? You know? And there

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Speaker 6: I mean, Roger Starbaucht as you know, as much as

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Speaker 6: Roger was instrumental really and pouring. I mean, is the

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Speaker 4: I remember you telling me a story and not to

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Speaker 4: get you know, too personal with it, but there was

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Speaker 4: something that had happened that that Troy Aikman even read about.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yes, yeah.

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Speaker 4: You involved with something I don't know.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. I went through. I went through.

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Speaker 6: You know, it wasn't that damaging, but I went through.

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Speaker 6: My financial advisor had came up in the pay in

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Speaker 6: the newspaper that had taken the bank and he had

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Speaker 6: actually taken the found out that he had actually taken advantage.

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Speaker 5: Of me in a small way.

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Speaker 6: But at the same time it became news and Troy

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Speaker 6: I remember, really, you know, just walking up to me

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Speaker 6: the right financial group for you.

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Speaker 5: Same group i'm with today.

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Speaker 6: Really, this isn't ninety three, ninety ninety three, my first

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Speaker 6: I mean, there's so many guys that were older than me,

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Speaker 6: and I think that's what was so special about those.

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Speaker 6: It was a ton of personalities guys had, you know,

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Speaker 6: had their own goals and dreams. At the same time, Man,

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Speaker 6: it was a family affair. It was a network of

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Speaker 4: That's pretty awesome. All right, Let's go to Justin in California.

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Speaker 10: Hey, Nick, how you doing, Brothers, I'm good.

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Speaker 4: How are you doing?

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Speaker 11: I'm good.

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Speaker 7: I'm good.

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Speaker 10: I think the last time I called was just before

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Speaker 10: the Green Bay game.

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Speaker 4: Hello, justin real quick. Are you do you know you're

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Speaker 4: you're on with Darren Woodson. Yes, I am a.

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Speaker 8: Man.

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Speaker 10: You know what, Darren, I got to thank you because

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Speaker 10: when I was when I was younger, so you know,

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Speaker 10: it was probably like nine or so, and I had

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Speaker 10: just started Pop Warner and I wanted to be Emmon

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Speaker 10: I want to be a running back.

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Speaker 12: And didn't we all happening?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, exactly, And my coach was like, no, you know,

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Speaker 10: I think, you know, let's put you at let's try

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Speaker 10: I didn't really want to be and you know, watching

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Speaker 10: to be a safety. It was like you know what,

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Speaker 10: yeah this is this was cool. Like they started me

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Speaker 10: One of my main goals is to get as many

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Speaker 10: picks as I could. You know, pop warning, you're not

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Speaker 10: really getting that many picks. But I ended up staying

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Speaker 3: Yeah, large largely for a reason because there was someone

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Speaker 3: always always over me through Pop Warner and through high school.

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Speaker 3: His name is Eric Little, and we'll see why he

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Speaker 3: got the starting position over me. But but but.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, thank you because at a young age, I wanted

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Speaker 10: to be, you know, the superstar. And yeah, you made

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Speaker 10: it cool for you made it okay for me to try.

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Speaker 3: To get better at safety.

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Speaker 9: So I appreciate that.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I hope, I hope you. I hope you make

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Speaker 5: I appreciate that long overdo thank you.

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Speaker 10: But uh yeah, last time I called it was the

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Speaker 10: Green Bay game and I think I said, you know,

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Speaker 10: firing Mark Mike McCarthy was going to be to be crazy.

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Speaker 10: I still think that. I like the decision they made,

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Speaker 10: and I'm happy with the decision that, you know, you know,

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Speaker 10: dan Quinn decided to take another job. I just think

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Speaker 10: I'm looking back and I'm thinking, when was the last

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Speaker 10: time we had a good run defense. It was even

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Speaker 10: before dan Quinn. We've had this issue, and I'm glad

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Speaker 10: we're not sticking with it. I'm glad we're going to

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Speaker 10: go in a different direction. As good as he was,

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Speaker 10: we need to we need to fix this run defense somehow.

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Speaker 10: I don't know if it is just coaching or if

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Speaker 10: to this defense. I think it's actually a good thing.

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Speaker 6: And yeah, but are you built, you know, currently, are

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Speaker 5: And and and stop the run.

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Speaker 6: And that's their main focus now they try to do

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Speaker 6: That's a you know that is a mentality that you

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Speaker 5: On on within the personnel or this football team.

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Speaker 6: Is that guy that's gonna knock your teeth out? Who's

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Speaker 5: They don't. That's not their makeup. So it's easy to say, yeah, we're.

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Speaker 6: Gonna change this, and we're gonna do that, and we're

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Speaker 6: Now we have to in the draft. We have to

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Speaker 6: I just don't think that's their mentality and hasn't been

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Speaker 6: Yeah, second in three like it's that's a tough deal

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I definitely agree with that, and I think they

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Speaker 5: And also you know, just to go along with that.

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Speaker 5: Got to control the front, got to control the front.

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Speaker 5: You gotta win in the trenches. It's all I used

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Speaker 6: And it was this is a time in the NFC

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean top to bottom.

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Speaker 5: The Russell? Absolutely, Russell Maryland was the number one pick.

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Speaker 6: Ye, Like you talk about a fundamental change, you want

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Speaker 4: You know, the next defensive tackle they took in the

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Speaker 4: first round. No, Mazie Smith. That's how long it's been. Seriously,

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Speaker 4: it's all Marcus Spears.

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Speaker 5: What year? What round did he go?

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Speaker 4: You know, technically defensive end?

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Speaker 5: Oh he was okay, had a three four? All that?

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Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, all right, let's go back to the phone line.

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Speaker 4: William in West Virginia.

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Speaker 13: What's up, Nick, my man? How's it going, good man?

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Speaker 4: How are you doing?

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Speaker 14: Oh?

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Speaker 15: Hanging man?

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Speaker 16: They're sure really for that loss. But like I said,

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Speaker 8: I think for all the years you date to Cowboy fans,

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Speaker 5: I appreciate that.

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Speaker 10: And I had a couple of questions for you, what

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Speaker 16: First of all, could you just describe how underrated the

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Speaker 15: Back when he played?

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Speaker 16: He was a phenomenal player. I really thought he was

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Speaker 16: a great player. And secondly, could you give us some

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Speaker 16: stories about how great a tandem you and Roy Williams

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Speaker 6: Look, Thomas Everett was and I mentioned Thomas earlier on

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Speaker 5: Do he was taking them off.

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Speaker 6: I mean he came in like a bowling ball to

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Speaker 5: But man, he played like he was six ' five. Dude.

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Speaker 5: He was just a damn good football player.

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Speaker 6: I mean I had a buddy of mine, Mark Labor,

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Speaker 5: Roy Roy was Roy, and I man, Roy was before.

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Speaker 4: You get in. I just want to say the first

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Speaker 4: what those guys did for you, what you did, it's

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Speaker 5: That was my job.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And I played with really good safety.

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Speaker 6: if we if we were playing Tony Gonzalez, Hey, that's

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Speaker 6: Whoever the slot guy is. If it's Steve Smith, Jerry right, Hey,

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Speaker 6: So if Jerry Rice motioned over, I just let him

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Speaker 6: Roy was probably the biggest hitter I've ever been around.

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Speaker 6: I don't know if I've ever seen anyone hit and

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Speaker 6: I always felt like I was a big hitter until

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Speaker 6: But he was that type of forces and he had

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Speaker 6: At the same time, Uh, he was a sponge man.

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Speaker 6: I think one of the things about Roy that was

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Speaker 5: But when I went down, they tasked him to do.

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Speaker 6: A lot more other things, and it was just a lot.

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Speaker 6: It was he had to carry a huge load and

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Speaker 5: So I'll still get a little emotional.

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Speaker 4: We got to do a documentary on him a few

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Speaker 6: He would give you anything. Yeah, he'd give you his

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Speaker 5: He's good.

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Speaker 4: He'd be giving away a lot of money played in

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Speaker 13: What's going on?

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Speaker 4: What's up?

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Speaker 8: Man?

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Speaker 7: I believe I'm on the phone with darn Woods.

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Speaker 5: Jeff.

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Speaker 7: The greatest, greatest safety is everywhere the star Man. I

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Speaker 7: can't believe, Chris, I can't believe I got through you

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Speaker 7: got it? How you doing, man?

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Speaker 5: I'm doing great about youself?

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Speaker 7: Oh, I'm doing good. I'm really doing real good.

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Speaker 4: Now. I just can't stop getting energy man.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I me and Nick Man we've been we've

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Speaker 7: is to play down there, maybe they lose, they could

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Speaker 7: lose their edge a little bit. And I was gonna

443
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Speaker 7: see what you had to say about that.

444
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Speaker 11: Uh.

445
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Speaker 5: Look, I'm I'm a firm believer.

446
00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:09,920
Speaker 6: You don't lose a game on Sundays. I just don't

447
00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:12,880
Speaker 6: believe that. I don't believe that you show up and

448
00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:13,880
Speaker 6: it's too bright.

449
00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:15,760
Speaker 5: It's too bright for you. These guys have been playing

450
00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:17,000
Speaker 5: all their lives like.

451
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Speaker 6: This is nothing new to to Michael Parsons and the

452
00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:24,959
Speaker 6: CD Lambs. They've been playing at the highest of highest

453
00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:29,679
Speaker 6: levels all their life and the other team, you know,

454
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Speaker 6: it's the same way. The other team isn't playing at

455
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Speaker 6: this level as well, So it's not the nerves is not.

456
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Speaker 6: I don't believe in the fact. Yeah, you can be

457
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Speaker 6: able nervous that you get over it after the first

458
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Speaker 6: hit and you move on. Here's the deal. You are

459
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Speaker 6: who you are. We've heard this so many times from

460
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Speaker 6: coaches like Bill Parcells. Right, So when you're in training

461
00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:49,280
Speaker 6: camp and you when you're playing a certain way, and

462
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Speaker 6: you're going through the preseason and you're and you you know,

463
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Speaker 6: you're deal doing your thing. And then you get into

464
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Speaker 6: the regular season and it's week six, the week ten

465
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Speaker 6: and you're doing the exact same thing, and you're leading

466
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Speaker 6: the league in penalties. That is not going to change

467
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Speaker 6: all of a sudden. It's not like you pull you

468
00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:10,320
Speaker 6: turn on the light switch and go, oh okay, now

469
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Speaker 6: we're different.

470
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Speaker 5: Now. No, that's who you are. That is who you are.

471
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Speaker 6: And when you played all season long and you haven't

472
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Speaker 6: stopped a run against the Buffalo bit or the Arizona

473
00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:23,960
Speaker 6: Cardinals first of all, the Buffalo Bills us the Niners.

474
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Speaker 6: You when you haven't stopped the run, that's who you are.

475
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Speaker 6: And it's only a matter of time until you get

476
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Speaker 6: into the playoffs. He played another good team like the

477
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Speaker 6: Green Bay Packers, and Jones runs the ball down your throat.

478
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Speaker 5: That's it is what it is.

479
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Speaker 6: So I just hate the you know, hear this whole Well,

480
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Speaker 6: you can change at any time, and you can do this.

481
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Speaker 5: You can turn you can't turn that light switch on

482
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Speaker 5: and it.

483
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Speaker 7: Starts to ry on. I did like yesterday, I finally

484
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Speaker 7: when I finally heard that Micah spoke yesterday, and I

485
00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:56,800
Speaker 7: was glad to hear that. Finally he come out and

486
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Speaker 7: you say, look, that was embarrassing and unacceptable. And I've

487
00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:03,119
Speaker 7: been waiting to hear a player say that because it was,

488
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Speaker 7: and so hopefully that maybe they're getting to that mental

489
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Speaker 7: part and maybe knowing that they have to you know,

490
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Speaker 7: they have to be ready to play off the time.

491
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Speaker 6: So hey, Jeff, this starts down though, like that that

492
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Speaker 6: all starts like this off season. Michael just said that,

493
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Speaker 6: it starts down like you really want to want to

494
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Speaker 6: really burn hot, like really burn hot and let it

495
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Speaker 6: really you know, burn in your heart is when you

496
00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:31,520
Speaker 6: started to do things about it. Right, So yeah, you

497
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Speaker 6: can say that, But at the same time, now it's

498
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Speaker 6: time for Micah and the rest of the guys who

499
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Speaker 6: are the leaders of this team to step up and say, okay,

500
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Speaker 6: this off season we're gonna eliminate some of the mistakes

501
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Speaker 6: that we made. We're gonna actually turn the film on

502
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Speaker 6: from last year. And Mike Zimmer did this to us

503
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Speaker 6: in ninety four. I think it was he did it

504
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Speaker 6: to me personally. He took a note of all the

505
00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:56,640
Speaker 6: bad plays I had, every bad play that I had,

506
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Speaker 6: and then put it on film and I had to

507
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Speaker 6: watch it.

508
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Speaker 5: And it sucked, dude. I mean, I didn't sleep for

509
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Speaker 5: five straight days.

510
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Speaker 7: But it made you a better place.

511
00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:08,040
Speaker 6: But it made me a better football player because I

512
00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:10,760
Speaker 6: was able to see the warts and I did the

513
00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:11,840
Speaker 6: entire off season.

514
00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:13,639
Speaker 5: All I did was work on those warts.

515
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Speaker 4: And you know, that's what that and that's what McCarthy

516
00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:18,320
Speaker 4: did with Dak. You know this year they went through

517
00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:21,920
Speaker 4: every interception from the year before. Yeah, you know, and yes,

518
00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:23,800
Speaker 4: I understand what happened in the Packer game, but we

519
00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,040
Speaker 4: all know Dak had a better season last year. He

520
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Speaker 4: did have a bounce back year and all that.

521
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Speaker 5: Well.

522
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Speaker 4: Thanks thanks for the call, Jeff. Appreciate that we got

523
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Speaker 4: to move it one more caller here before we got

524
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Speaker 4: to let Darren go ray in Michigan. What's up, Break,

525
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Speaker 4: How you doing?

526
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Speaker 17: Hey?

527
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Speaker 5: Great?

528
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Speaker 18: First time caller. All right, I'm doing good and I

529
00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:44,399
Speaker 18: love it when you bring it there.

530
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Speaker 5: Hey, Ray, nice to meet you.

531
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Speaker 18: Ray, A pleasure to meet you. He want to thank

532
00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:52,080
Speaker 18: you for your legacy. I'm fifty two years old, so

533
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:55,359
Speaker 18: I mean I experienced it in my twenties and uh,

534
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Speaker 18: you know, I just want to thank you. I know

535
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Speaker 18: in a week a week come today, you will be

536
00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:03,919
Speaker 18: the newest member of the twenty four class. So I'm

537
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,600
Speaker 18: gonna I'm gonna congratulate you ahead of time because I

538
00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:09,600
Speaker 18: know I feel you're a lock. You should you should

539
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:12,439
Speaker 18: have been in years ago. And I will see you

540
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Speaker 18: in Canton.

541
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Speaker 8: Thank you.

542
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Speaker 18: I go to all the enshrinements.

543
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Speaker 5: That's awesome.

544
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Speaker 18: Yes, I can't wait. I'm I'm got my hands together

545
00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:25,359
Speaker 18: for you. So I want to thank you. And also

546
00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:29,840
Speaker 18: I you know, through this twenty eight year drought, the

547
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Speaker 18: source of my contentment is my Game War jersey collection,

548
00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:36,320
Speaker 18: and I collected the nineties and I'm lucky enough to

549
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Speaker 18: have one of yours. And it's in a way nineteen

550
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:43,000
Speaker 18: ninety four. You wore it against Arizona and Washington. But

551
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Speaker 18: that's so I will have that on my back. And

552
00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,280
Speaker 18: I never wear jerseys, but I will definitely have my

553
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Speaker 18: back in Canton.

554
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Speaker 4: At Washington ninety four.

555
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Speaker 12: I don't know if it's ninety four, it was the

556
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Speaker 12: it was the Apex jersey, the yeah, you know, before

557
00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:01,359
Speaker 12: you had double start that year, but this was the

558
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:02,000
Speaker 12: Blue Away.

559
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Speaker 18: So anyways, thank you for everything, and it's gonna be

560
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Speaker 18: great to see you in the Hall of Fame. I

561
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Speaker 18: guess my question is you know, I didn't. I just

562
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Speaker 18: wanted to thank you, really, But my question is, what

563
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Speaker 18: what was it like playing like on Special Teams your

564
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:25,840
Speaker 18: rookie year before you starting lineup the following year? What

565
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,719
Speaker 18: was it like playing like with Kenny Gant? Yeah, and

566
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Speaker 18: Bill Bates? You know, you know, what did you learn

567
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:34,480
Speaker 18: from those guys on Special Yeah?

568
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Speaker 5: Dude, I mean Bill Bates.

569
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Speaker 6: I remember grew up growing up and watching Bill Bates

570
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Speaker 6: on TV and being a Special Team's ace.

571
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Speaker 17: Uh.

572
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Speaker 6: And then I get here and I get to meet Bill,

573
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Speaker 6: but I also got to meet the shark Kenny and

574
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Speaker 6: Gant as great as the Special Teams player.

575
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Speaker 5: As he was, I mean, he was phenomenal and he

576
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Speaker 5: run through the wedge.

577
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Speaker 6: He made, you know, huge plays on Special Teams and

578
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 6: in the nickel at the same time. But gamp Kenny

579
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Speaker 6: Gant was the guy that kept everything loose. I can

580
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Speaker 6: tell you before games we were in the locker room

581
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Speaker 6: the biggest games, NFC Championship games.

582
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Speaker 5: And he's cutting up making us laugh.

583
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Speaker 6: Man.

584
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Speaker 5: He just kept us loose all the time.

585
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Speaker 6: And then when he get out in the field, man,

586
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:26,359
Speaker 6: he'd be smiling running down on kickoff like that. Just

587
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:29,400
Speaker 6: joy for the game and his energy for the game.

588
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Speaker 6: And he made it fun for me. I mean, he

589
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:34,480
Speaker 6: really did. He kept it loose. I mean to answer

590
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Speaker 6: that question. Look, I don't know if I ever came

591
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 6: off out of special teams.

592
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 5: I played special.

593
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Speaker 6: Teams my entire Yeah, my tire kickoff, kickoff return my

594
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:45,680
Speaker 6: first year, I played all four of my first year,

595
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:52,399
Speaker 6: got off the kickoff return team my second year. But

596
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 6: I played the punt, punt return and what else kickoff

597
00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:01,120
Speaker 6: team for thirteen years years And a lot of people

598
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 6: don't realize that I'm second all time.

599
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Speaker 5: In leading tackles for in special teams. Wow. And it's

600
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:07,479
Speaker 5: a lot of special teams bro.

601
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's not gonna change because no one's getting

602
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Speaker 4: special teams tackles.

603
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 6: And trust me, I think I would have played a

604
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 6: couple more years if I wasn't playing, all those special

605
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 6: teams had some more life.

606
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Speaker 4: And I know, I know, we gotta let you go.

607
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:20,680
Speaker 4: A couple of the callers have talked about the Hall

608
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Speaker 4: of Fame. Tell us what happens this week? You're going

609
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Speaker 4: out to Vegas?

610
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, I go out to Vegas.

611
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Speaker 6: Next week, next Tuesday, and we'll find out by Wednesday,

612
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:34,720
Speaker 6: Thursday of next week.

613
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:35,200
Speaker 5: Somewhere in there.

614
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Speaker 6: And and if it happens, man, I'll be a happy man.

615
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 6: But if it doesn't, man, I can't.

616
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:40,960
Speaker 5: You know.

617
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:45,200
Speaker 6: Look, we'll circle them, We'll circle it one more time, right,

618
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 6: we'll come back around.

619
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Speaker 4: And I'm gonna be there on Thursday. I'm going to

620
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Speaker 4: Vegas on Thursday, and it's going to be a good time.

621
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Speaker 4: And if that happens, I'm gonna find you. And I

622
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 4: can't wait for that, just to see what what that's

623
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Speaker 4: going to be like for so deserving. But like you said,

624
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 4: you know it's not this year. Then wherever the super

625
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:04,359
Speaker 4: Bowl is next year, that's where I.

626
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Speaker 5: The way.

627
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:08,400
Speaker 4: All right, thanks, So we're gonna take a break here

628
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Speaker 4: real quick. I know there's some people on the line,

629
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Speaker 4: sorry that you didn't get a chance to talk to

630
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 4: Darren this time, but really appreciate you coming by. Good

631
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 4: luck to you next week. And Darren, we'll see you

632
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:19,920
Speaker 4: next time you come around. All right, sounds good, brother,

633
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,680
Speaker 4: All right, we'll go right back here on Cowboys story.

634
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Speaker 19: Nice Todd thought it would be secure to jog in

635
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Speaker 19: the cheatah Savannah.

636
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Speaker 5: Todd believed the big cat.

637
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Speaker 19: Repellent he bought online was reliable. And now Todd is

638
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Speaker 19: trying to be faster than this cheetah that can run

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Speaker 19: eighty miles per hour. But the good news is Todd

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Speaker 19: Cowboys fans, after that move, we've just coined the term replay.

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Speaker 5: Let's roll back the table.

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Speaker 2: Okay, there's our mascot Rowdy cheering on the boys, and

651
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Speaker 2: now he's on his phone.

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Speaker 20: Welcome back into Dear Doctor, the show where I answer

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Speaker 20: life's questions with an ice cold can of doctor Pepper. Sheila,

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Speaker 20: let's hear from my next caller.

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Speaker 5: Would you, Dear Doctor?

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Speaker 11: My friend supported me during a tough time.

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Speaker 1: But what's the right gift that says thanks for being

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Speaker 1: the soldier to cry out?

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Speaker 20: Okay, this one's easy, I say, give her a delicious

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Speaker 20: Doctor Pepper. Nothing says thanks good better than one of

671
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Speaker 20: a kind soda. Yes, any doctor Pepper flavor will do now,

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Speaker 20: just to remind her that I don't need to be

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Speaker 20: a real doctor to know that Doctor Pepper is the

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Speaker 20: one you deserve.

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Speaker 3: To Cowboys Storyline.

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Speaker 4: All right, welcome back to Cowboys storyline. It's been a

685
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Speaker 4: while since we've taken a break on here. Had to

686
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Speaker 4: let Darren go. Darren Woodson was here. If you just

687
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Speaker 4: just joined us, feel bad for the callers that tried

688
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Speaker 4: to get through and couldn't. He was running to a meeting.

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Speaker 4: So we love having Darren on. Some great insight, great

690
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Speaker 4: stories that he told as well. We'll see if we

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Speaker 4: can call him Hall of Fame or Darren what's in

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Speaker 4: after next week? So a week from today actually will

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Speaker 4: be the announcement on the NFL Honors. Maybe Darren might

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Speaker 4: find out a little bit earlier in the day. He's

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Speaker 4: going to be there. I'll be there, so that that

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Speaker 4: means we will not have a show next Thursday. Just

697
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Speaker 4: going to have one next week on a Cowboys storyline

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Speaker 4: on Tuesday at one o'clock. We will not have two

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Speaker 4: next week. All right, let's get back to the phone lines,

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Speaker 4: Josh and Chicago is next.

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Speaker 12: Hey, Nick, long time, no talk. How are you doing?

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Speaker 4: All right? First first time caller.

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Speaker 15: No, I've called it.

704
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Speaker 12: I think this is my third or fourth.

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Speaker 4: Let's do it anyways, for Ray in Michigan, because we

706
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Speaker 4: we go for you and for Ray so awesome. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: how you doing, Josh?

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Speaker 12: Not too bad? How are you doing?

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Speaker 4: I'm great?

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Speaker 12: A little bum daddy to talk to Woody, But I

711
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 12: hope he gets into the hall. He's you know, I'm

712
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Speaker 12: praying for him. He's an awesome guy on and off

713
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Speaker 12: the field.

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Speaker 5: So really, I.

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Speaker 12: Hope he gets there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure, for sure.

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Speaker 12: So yeah, I've been trying to call for a couple

718
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Speaker 12: of weeks, even with the time change. I hope that

719
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Speaker 12: you're still getting a lot of calls. I'm here to

720
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Speaker 12: the wheels fall off man.

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Speaker 4: All right, all right, Yeah, we're doing good. We're doing

722
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Speaker 4: pretty good with the with the time change and a

723
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Speaker 4: lot of the same same callers. We got a few

724
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Speaker 4: first timers, but you know, they they they follow us,

725
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Speaker 4: so which is great.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 12: The one thing that I will say is, you know,

728
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Speaker 12: I'm a bit bummed to see Dan Quinn go to

729
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Speaker 12: somewhere in the division. But I do think the change

730
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Speaker 12: will be good. I really hope that this team can

731
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Speaker 12: can just improve on its penalties next season. I think

732
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Speaker 12: that that's you know, we talked about the run defense

733
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Speaker 12: a lot, but I think that there's been penalties that

734
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Speaker 12: put them behind the change and that's something that starts

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Speaker 12: with the head coach in my eyes, and Mike's gotta

736
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Speaker 12: do better at.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I agree, I agree. I mean the players

738
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Speaker 4: have to you know, it's it's on the players too,

739
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Speaker 4: but but yeah, I mean it all funnels up to

740
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Speaker 4: the head coach as well, and uh and and and

741
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Speaker 4: the GM and owner. I mean that's because the players

742
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Speaker 4: that you put out there, you know, some some of

743
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Speaker 4: the guys are repeat offenders here and like so you know,

744
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Speaker 4: at some point, are they worth it? You have to

745
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Speaker 4: figure that out. Are they worth it? Are they good

746
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Speaker 4: enough when they're actually making plays to offset all of

747
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Speaker 4: the penalties, and if they're not, move on. Kelvin Joseph

748
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Speaker 4: was another guy like that. I mean, just playing on

749
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Speaker 4: special teams, causing getting a lot of penalties. They had

750
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Speaker 4: to get rid of them, you know, and so and

751
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Speaker 4: there may be others on the team. I like that

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Speaker 4: as well.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, I like having Sam Williams around. But I mean

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Speaker 12: the impact, right is what you're saying, and I mean

755
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Speaker 12: his impact is a way for the penalties ye are

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Speaker 12: worth better.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, after the call, I'll have a point about Sam

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Speaker 4: Williams as well. Do you have anything else, Josh?

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Speaker 11: Yes.

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Speaker 12: I actually was gonna ask Woody, but something gets too.

761
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Speaker 12: I was gonna ask him if he has any Nate

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Speaker 12: new stories. I don't know if you might have any.

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Speaker 4: Uh well, but I well, my stories aren't the same

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Speaker 4: as Nate. Yeah, I got plenty of Nate stories. But

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Speaker 4: I should wait till he comes back. I'll get him

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Speaker 4: on here again.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Nate.

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Speaker 4: It was like I had some Nate stories before I

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Speaker 4: even started working here.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 4: He uh uh, he's still He pushed me on the

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Speaker 4: sidelines my very first year. I wasn't worth the Cowboys yet,

773
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Speaker 4: h my very first year, but I was. I was

774
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Speaker 4: in the media and I was probably weighing like one

775
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Speaker 4: hundred and fifty pounds seriously, and Nate, just Nate was

776
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Speaker 4: a pulling guard on a goal line play and just

777
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Speaker 4: ran and I was nowhere near him. He was about

778
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Speaker 4: you know, two yards this way, but he went right

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Speaker 4: next to me and just decided to just shove me

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Speaker 4: for no reason. I think he just said, if I'm

781
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Speaker 4: gonna run thirty forty yards, I don't hit someone. And

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Speaker 4: he just you know, and him just shoving me. I

783
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Speaker 4: mean almost fell down, you know. I I'll never forget that.

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Speaker 5: I don't know why.

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Speaker 4: I don't know why Nate had to do that. But yeah,

786
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Speaker 4: so anyways, uh, we we've we've definitely h had some

787
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Speaker 4: great stories backward, but not not as like what you

788
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Speaker 4: know would he had of course, different different stories there

789
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Speaker 4: with him. So anyways, thanks, thanks, yeah, thanks for the call, Josh,

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Speaker 4: appreciate that. All right, let's go. I was gonna say

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Speaker 4: something about Sam Williams where you know a lot of

792
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 4: people kind of have that opinion like, hey, if he's

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00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,839
Speaker 4: just gonna play special teams and he's gonna have penalties,

794
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 4: is it worth it? And and and that's fair. The

795
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Speaker 4: part that that could be something to watch now is

796
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:17,919
Speaker 4: look at the free agents that are out there now.

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Speaker 4: On your unrestricted free agents, You've got Doran Armstrong you've

798
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,880
Speaker 4: got Dante Fowler. Faller's one guy that did play for

799
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Speaker 4: him for dan Quinn in Atlanta and in Dallas. Dorrin

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Speaker 4: Armstrong's best, best career, best years of his career have

801
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Speaker 4: been here with dan Quinn. So could be situations where

802
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 4: these guys maybe maybe they leave, maybe the Cowboys can't

803
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Speaker 4: re sign them both or any of them. And that's

804
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Speaker 4: where you've got a third year player in Sam Williams

805
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Speaker 4: that you know, maybe it's time for him to to

806
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 4: you know, the light bulb to come on and to

807
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:53,400
Speaker 4: turn the corner and play a lot more so, you know,

808
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:55,800
Speaker 4: and that's that's the cycle of how things are supposed

809
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 4: to go. You draft the guy in the second round.

810
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 4: By his third year, you need to be starting. And

811
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 4: so I think that, you know, they may give him

812
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,400
Speaker 4: that opportunity to do that, but it's it's hold your

813
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:07,839
Speaker 4: breath with him because you know, like we've seen, there

814
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 4: have been certainly been some some penalties issues with him.

815
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 4: All right, let's go to Sebastian and Savannah. Sebastian, you're next,

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Speaker 4: Good afternoon, and I hope you guys are having a

817
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 4: brilliant year so far.

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Speaker 15: We're up to February now, so listen, I'm gonna sum

819
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 15: this whole season up in the most beautiful way possible.

820
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:26,839
Speaker 15: Remember when you were a kid and your parents were

821
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:28,400
Speaker 15: telling you they're going to take you across the country

822
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Speaker 15: to like an amusement park and you're all excited and

823
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 15: that's training camp, and you're like looking at all the

824
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 15: rides on the schedule and you're like, oh man, this

825
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 15: is gonna be great, and you're like, I'm gonna say

826
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Speaker 15: the best ride for last. Right, you get to the

827
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Speaker 15: amusement park. You're having a good Some of the rides

828
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Speaker 15: are good, some of the rides are bad, some of

829
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:44,759
Speaker 15: the rides are terrible. But then you get to that

830
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 15: big ride and you're like, yes, I've been waiting all

831
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Speaker 15: day long. I've been in line for over an hour.

832
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 15: And you get on that ride and the people coming

833
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 15: off the ride before you're crying and throwing up, and

834
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,279
Speaker 15: you're like, ah, they're socked. I'll be great. Then you

835
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 15: get on there and it's a great ride, and it

836
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:00,879
Speaker 15: starts and you get to the first loop and someone

837
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 15: skills their coffee on machine and you get stuck in

838
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 15: that loop for two and a half hours and you're miserable.

839
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 15: And people are crying and throwing up and they're upset,

840
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 15: and your head is banging because you're upside down. And

841
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 15: then they finally fixed the machine right and you start

842
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:16,279
Speaker 15: to finish the rest of the ride, but at that

843
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 15: point you're so tired and just exasperated. You just want

844
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:20,720
Speaker 15: to go home. And that was the end of the season.

845
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 15: And it's unfortunate and it sucks because it sounds like

846
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 15: we're losing dan Quinn and stuff like that. And I

847
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 15: really had a question for what mister Woodson as well.

848
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 15: But that was basically the season. We had all these

849
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:34,800
Speaker 15: great rides, Jimmy Johnson getting into the Ringham Honor finally,

850
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:36,799
Speaker 15: and then you get to the final ride that you've

851
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 15: been waiting on the entire time, and it's stumped, and

852
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:42,279
Speaker 15: not for reasons that you could ever even figure out

853
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 15: ahead of time, you know. I look at that last

854
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:48,320
Speaker 15: week seventeen game against seventeen, Yeah, week seventeen game against

855
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:51,240
Speaker 15: Washington when he dove for the play I'm talking about Gilmore,

856
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 15: and I was like, you didn't have.

857
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 7: To do that.

858
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:58,359
Speaker 15: I literally was like, why you didn't have to do that?

859
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:00,400
Speaker 15: And you knew he was hurt in the way that

860
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 15: he got he was sitting down there, and I was like,

861
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 15: there was no reason for us to do that. We

862
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 15: had the lead. You didn't have to sell out for

863
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 15: that play. That's something that you do maybe in the playoffs.

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Speaker 15: I think had he been fully healthy, our defense may

865
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:12,880
Speaker 15: have looked a little better. I don't know if we

866
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 15: would have stopped him or if it would have changed anything,

867
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 15: but I think we would have looked better and the

868
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 15: play calling would have been a.

869
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 12: Little bit better.

870
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Speaker 15: Injuries definitely robbed some of the defense, So I don't

871
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 15: put one hundred percent of the bad defensive calls and

872
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 15: playing on Dan Quinn. You gotta go out there and execute.

873
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 15: So going forward, if Dan's not there, I don't know

874
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 15: if that's one hundred percent confirm or now that he's

875
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 15: going to the commanders, but if he's not there, is

876
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 15: the experiments of having safeties play linebackers and linebackers do

877
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:41,880
Speaker 15: whatever played defensive lineman over. Are we gonna have safeties

878
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 15: and we're gonna have linebackers for this next generation? Is

879
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 15: that something that you think we need to look at

880
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:48,840
Speaker 15: going forward? Before I leave, I loved all the shows.

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Speaker 15: You guys did an amazing job keeping our spirits hide

882
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 15: this season, this has been one of the coolest shows ever.

883
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 15: To call in and talk to Rod Woodson and Nate

884
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 15: Newton's on the show and stuff like that, but to

885
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:01,799
Speaker 15: hear the fans rob Vegas and everybody, all the young

886
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 15: women and men who called love you guys. Shout out

887
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 15: to everybody. It's gonna be all right, Yeah, We're gonna

888
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:07,439
Speaker 15: be fine.

889
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 4: Have a great day, all right, thanks Smash. I had

890
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 4: a hard time keeping up with the You know, I

891
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 4: love analogies, I mean as much as the next one,

892
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:20,799
Speaker 4: But man, I was I was struggling there. You know,

893
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:23,279
Speaker 4: not that I'm a not that I've been on a

894
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:25,759
Speaker 4: ton of roller coasters myself, but I mean stuck in

895
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:29,400
Speaker 4: for a couple hours, I mean that's sounds kind of traumatic, actually,

896
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 4: So I don't know. I get the point though. I

897
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 4: think just just you know, all the build up and

898
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:40,319
Speaker 4: then boom over off season. Now we're doing a draft

899
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:43,840
Speaker 4: show just like that. I mean, we should be. We

900
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:46,440
Speaker 4: should all. We all thought there was a chance to

901
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 4: go to Vegas for the Super Bowl and it just

902
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:53,760
Speaker 4: didn't didn't happen. Ask for the question about the linebackers safety,

903
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 4: you know, who knows you know what's gonna happen here

904
00:39:56,000 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 4: with the defensive coordinator, new new coordinator, new scheme, you'd hope.

905
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 4: And so as much as I like Dan Quinn and

906
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:08,320
Speaker 4: I and in the last couple of years, I didn't

907
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:11,360
Speaker 4: you know, I didn't want to see him leave. You

908
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 4: know now that they have to make some changes. You

909
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:16,840
Speaker 4: have to have some things that you want to be

910
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 4: excited about. And uh, I think whoever the coordinator is

911
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:23,279
Speaker 4: there needs to be a little bit more of an

912
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 4: emphasis on the run. It has to be And and

913
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:30,239
Speaker 4: I think you know, anytime you you you do mismatches,

914
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 4: it's a mismatch for a reason. It's a mismatch both ways.

915
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 4: In the NBA, if you played five guards, you're probably

916
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 4: gonna get the ball up the court and pass it

917
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 4: around and probably get some open shots. But if you miss,

918
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 4: you're not getting the rebound, you know, So so just

919
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:48,319
Speaker 4: because of the mismatch on one end and out the other.

920
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:50,920
Speaker 4: So if you play undersized linebackers, yeah, they can fly

921
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 4: around the ball maybe and then and and chase it

922
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 4: and and and you know, make some plays. But but

923
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 4: when it gets hat on a hat and their guys

924
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 4: are bigger than you, look what happens. So I do

925
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:04,399
Speaker 4: think that whoever the coordinators needs to be a little

926
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 4: bit more emphasis on the run, and with that probably

927
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 4: means bigger linebackers. All right, let's go to Bill in

928
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:12,360
Speaker 4: New Haven, Connecticut.

929
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:14,240
Speaker 11: Hey, Nick, how you doing, buddy?

930
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 4: Good Bill? How are you good man?

931
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 11: Thanks? Hey. I just want to touch real quickly on

932
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:20,799
Speaker 11: the things Jerry said yesterday, because I think there's a

933
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:25,319
Speaker 11: misconception as fans. We hear all in, right, and we think,

934
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:28,400
Speaker 11: oh wow, they're gonna go out, they're gonna get Chris Jones,

935
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:30,879
Speaker 11: they're gonna get this guy or this guy. But if

936
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 11: you really listening to what Jerry said his definition of

937
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 11: all in, and he mentioned these three players several times,

938
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:43,239
Speaker 11: and it was Lamb's, Parsons and Prescott, I think his

939
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 11: definition of all in is an all in financial commitment

940
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 11: to keeping those players that they drafted and they built

941
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 11: the roster up. So I just think that the fans

942
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:58,279
Speaker 11: need to prepare himself for when they hear all in.

943
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 11: It's easy right now to say, oh, yeah, things are

944
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 11: gonna be different this year. We're gonna go out and

945
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 11: we're gonna be players before Week three in free agency.

946
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 11: But I just don't think that's what he means by

947
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:12,799
Speaker 11: all in. And I think there's a huge disconnect by

948
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 11: between what the franchise thinks all in is and what

949
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 11: we as fans think call in and you and I'm

950
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:24,799
Speaker 11: starting I was gonna say, you've hit on it this.

951
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 11: They think they're close. Whether we agree with it, whether

952
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 11: you agree with it, it doesn't matter. They do think

953
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:36,399
Speaker 11: they're close, and that's what makes it frustrating by them

954
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 11: kind of saying two things at the same time. Well,

955
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:41,239
Speaker 11: we're close, but we're not going all in. But I

956
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 11: just think what it comes down to is there's a

957
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 11: huge disconnect between they're all in, which is a financial

958
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:49,400
Speaker 11: commitment of being all in, and what we as fans

959
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:51,240
Speaker 11: want to see as.

960
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:53,239
Speaker 4: Being all Let's break it down because I mean the

961
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:58,799
Speaker 4: term all in. We know what it's referencing, right, you

962
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 4: play poker? Yeah, what does all in mean? It means

963
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 4: you're pushing all of your chips in for this hand,

964
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:10,799
Speaker 4: all of them are in. Everything I've got is going

965
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:15,399
Speaker 4: to the middle. And I think I don't know this.

966
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 4: Jerry might be looking at it from a salary cap standpoint,

967
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 4: going for me to pay Dak, for me to pay

968
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 4: Micah and for me to pay CD that might be

969
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 4: all my chips, right, I mean that's you know he's

970
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:31,799
Speaker 4: thinking from that name. Will it be all No, probably not,

971
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 4: but it's gonna be a lot. And so I think

972
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 4: that's that might be what he's thinking. And I'm not

973
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 4: I'm not saying, you know, he's right or wrong or whatever.

974
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 4: And you're exactly right because you're all in. Is getting

975
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 4: those those free agents that you're talking about, all all

976
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:50,399
Speaker 4: the top ones at each position that you need and

977
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 4: just trading next year's you know, next year's number one

978
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 4: for somebody like that. That to me is all in.

979
00:43:57,080 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 4: I'm gonna trade next year's one for guy that will

980
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 4: help me right now.

981
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:04,799
Speaker 11: See, I see, And I think quickly, I know you

982
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 11: got to go. I think they think all in. And listen,

983
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 11: they made the trade for Gilmour, they made the trade

984
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 11: for Cooks. Good trades, but there were trades at their

985
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:17,720
Speaker 11: price for players that were Pro bowlers. We speak about

986
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:21,279
Speaker 11: game changers. We're talking about going and getting players that

987
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 11: actually are still all pros or Pro bowlers. And and

988
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 11: that's the difference. And uh, quickly with the thing with

989
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:32,719
Speaker 11: this happening today with Quinn it's hard to preach continuity,

990
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 11: which I was okay with bringing McCarthy back, when the

991
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 11: entire half of the coaching staff of the building. Not

992
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 11: the entire I'm being hyperbolic, but a lot of coaches

993
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 11: are leaving, so there's not a lot of continuity coming back.

994
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:50,880
Speaker 11: Why you're right, I don't but I just think based

995
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 11: on things that I've read, quotes from Al Harris from

996
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 11: the past, and the relationship with Jill Witt and Quinn,

997
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:00,880
Speaker 11: that there's a high potential for them to Okay, so

998
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 11: if you're going to say we want to build on

999
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:06,879
Speaker 11: what we have, which is fine, more than fair. You've

1000
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:09,440
Speaker 11: been twelve and five for three straight years, you should

1001
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:12,279
Speaker 11: also have the fourth sight to also realize, and I'm

1002
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:14,360
Speaker 11: sure they do, that you might lose half of your

1003
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 11: staff as well. So it kind of takes the legs

1004
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 11: out on the continuity argument.

1005
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:21,720
Speaker 4: Okay, thanks for the call, Bill, appreciate good good stuff there.

1006
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 4: Let me just throw out a couple of things about

1007
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 4: the NFL rules. When in terms of that the coaches,

1008
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 4: every coach on the staff other than receivers, coach Robert

1009
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 4: Prince is under contract. So according to the NFL rules,

1010
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 4: the only two positions that whether you have a contract

1011
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:46,279
Speaker 4: or not, the only two coaching positions that you have

1012
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:50,880
Speaker 4: to let them leave for is a head coach and

1013
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 4: a defensive and a coordinator an offense, defense, or special

1014
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 4: teams coordinator. So Dan Quinn is the new coach, will

1015
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 4: be the new coach of Washington Commanders, and I believe

1016
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 4: he could take one guy with him to be his coordinator,

1017
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 4: but he can't take more than that because they're all

1018
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:11,880
Speaker 4: under contract. They can ask for permission, and if the

1019
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:14,880
Speaker 4: Cowboys wanted to make a change there and wanted to

1020
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:17,399
Speaker 4: let a guy out of his contract or whatever, they

1021
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 4: can do that. So I'm not saying that it will

1022
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:23,399
Speaker 4: only be one. But if the Cowboys are like, no, no,

1023
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 4: we're not letting you take everybody over there, they don't

1024
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:30,360
Speaker 4: have to. It's not and it's nothing about a promotion

1025
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:33,759
Speaker 4: from one spot to another. It's to be a coordinator.

1026
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 4: And I think the NFL has gotten they understand all

1027
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:41,800
Speaker 4: the cute titles of passing game, run game coordinator, assistant,

1028
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 4: head coach, all this kind of stuff. Now you either

1029
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:47,839
Speaker 4: you're a coordinator or that's it. So I don't think

1030
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:52,240
Speaker 4: the Cowboys, if they don't want to they can hold

1031
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:56,760
Speaker 4: on to all but at least one of their defensive coaches,

1032
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 4: if that's what dan Quayn is trying to do. All right,

1033
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:00,920
Speaker 4: Dylan and Northport, Florida.

1034
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 14: Hey Mix, how's it going good?

1035
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:04,800
Speaker 5: How are you doing good?

1036
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 14: You altered me for a loop today. I tried calling

1037
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 14: in that one fifty five. I guess it'd be twelve

1038
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 14: fifty five ye time, but it was already busy. I'm like,

1039
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:12,319
Speaker 14: ane of these guys were eager today to get in here,

1040
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:14,839
Speaker 14: and I turn it on and you'll already halfway into

1041
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 14: this thing.

1042
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 4: I'm sorry we did. I did put it out on

1043
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 4: Twitter or x whatever it's called, yeah, a couple of times,

1044
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:26,319
Speaker 4: but yeah, yeah, and announced it last in the last

1045
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 4: show as well. So yeah, I figured that would happened

1046
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 4: though to some you know, if people have lives, you know,

1047
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 4: they don't just.

1048
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 14: Yeah, I'm not a great listener, so they work on

1049
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 14: my listening skills. I actually I want to talk about

1050
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 14: the same thing that a last I was talking about.

1051
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 14: It's funny you mentioned that about Jerry. I think I

1052
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 14: see it a bit differently because Jerry specifically said they're

1053
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:50,800
Speaker 14: not building for the future. So and Jerry's not getting

1054
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 14: any younger here. Let's be real, right, So I don't

1055
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 14: know how much he's got left in the tank. Hopefully

1056
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 14: a lot more, but you know, whatever we'll see. But

1057
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:01,880
Speaker 14: he specifically say is not building for the future. So

1058
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 14: to me, that means there are some deals that will

1059
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:06,440
Speaker 14: probably get done, like a DAK extension. But some of

1060
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:08,360
Speaker 14: these deals are going to free up cap space that

1061
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:12,360
Speaker 14: also allows you to then pursue these all pro guys

1062
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:15,759
Speaker 14: or these high rice free agents. So I feel like,

1063
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:18,919
Speaker 14: and I get why people don't trust you. We haven't

1064
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:21,360
Speaker 14: won anything since the dinosaurs roamed the earth, and you know,

1065
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 14: he talks lots of a lot of things, so I

1066
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 14: get why people aren't necessarily willing to jump in and

1067
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 14: trust them until they see it. But I just have

1068
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:31,440
Speaker 14: this feeling that, especially if we see a DAK extension,

1069
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:34,719
Speaker 14: I feel like they may go after a high end

1070
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 14: defensive tackle, maybe a linebacker, running back for sure, and

1071
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 14: maybe a center or a certain combination of those things.

1072
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 14: So that's what I'm expecting, and I think the chips

1073
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 14: will fall once that DAK extension is completed. Yeah, I

1074
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:49,719
Speaker 14: just want to get your thoughts on that.

1075
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:52,480
Speaker 4: I agree. I mean, I think I think the Dak

1076
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 4: extension if that, if that happens, that that's going to

1077
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:57,920
Speaker 4: be that that's going to be like the first domino

1078
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 4: in a lot of things. And if it doesn't happen

1079
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:03,879
Speaker 4: and they're just going to go off of one year

1080
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 4: for Dak, you know, at this fifty nine million price tag,

1081
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:12,320
Speaker 4: then I think that that kind of would would symbol

1082
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:14,319
Speaker 4: a lot of things of what of where they they're

1083
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:17,799
Speaker 4: thinking here moving forward and maybe this is just a

1084
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:20,319
Speaker 4: one year thing. Same with McCarthy and all that. So

1085
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:22,959
Speaker 4: I think if you're going to be players and really

1086
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:25,360
Speaker 4: give everybody a chance to do something, then they're probably

1087
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 4: going to have to extend that. That's why this is

1088
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:31,440
Speaker 4: a tough situation because they they have Dak does have

1089
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 4: a lot more leverage here in this in this situation.

1090
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:39,759
Speaker 14: So yeah, no doubt, no doubt. And then before I go,

1091
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:42,319
Speaker 14: I guess, toss you a little bomb here and then

1092
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:45,920
Speaker 14: take off. Jesse Holly what he said about Mike. I

1093
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:47,920
Speaker 14: just want to get your thoughts on that and his

1094
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:51,760
Speaker 14: comments on Michah maybe not being committed to play linebacker,

1095
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:53,760
Speaker 14: don't want to put in the work or whatever you said.

1096
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:55,239
Speaker 14: I'm not sure if you heard that or not.

1097
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:58,720
Speaker 4: But yeah, yeah, I think we all heard about Yeah,

1098
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:03,840
Speaker 4: MICA's mom heard that. Yeah, it happened. Okay, thanks for

1099
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:07,879
Speaker 4: the call. I don't think my I don't think Jesse

1100
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:12,400
Speaker 4: talked about it on yesterday show, Chris did you you listened?

1101
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 4: Did they talk about it yesterday, Chris Bean?

1102
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:17,279
Speaker 5: Is he on the phone? No?

1103
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:19,359
Speaker 4: They did not talk about Well, if Jesse's not talk

1104
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:20,719
Speaker 4: about it on his show, I'm not gonna talk about

1105
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:22,799
Speaker 4: it as well. Let me let me just give him

1106
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:26,239
Speaker 4: my thoughts on on Micah Parsons from from what I see,

1107
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:29,759
Speaker 4: because I mean that's the thing, like it's we were

1108
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:32,399
Speaker 4: in the locker room, uh some you know, I mean

1109
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:34,759
Speaker 4: for a few minutes there, you know, three times a

1110
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:37,480
Speaker 4: week or so, and and we hear some stuff and

1111
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:41,799
Speaker 4: and we you can kind of tell, I mean I've

1112
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:44,680
Speaker 4: seen it. You can tell that Micah. Micah's mindset is

1113
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 4: different than some other players. It really is, just just

1114
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:53,440
Speaker 4: from what I've observed. I mean, he he wants to win. Uh,

1115
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 4: he wants to play well. He wants to play well.

1116
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:58,760
Speaker 4: He I mean when he doesn't and and the team wins,

1117
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:03,879
Speaker 4: I seen him kind of upset about the way he

1118
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:06,719
Speaker 4: played or the way, you know, even though the team won,

1119
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:11,760
Speaker 4: he holds himself to the highest standard there. If that's

1120
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:15,440
Speaker 4: if that's considered selfish or whatever, then then maybe at

1121
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:18,240
Speaker 4: times he is. But that's not always a bad word.

1122
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:21,840
Speaker 4: That that word in life isn't always bad because sometimes

1123
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:25,840
Speaker 4: if you're not looking out for yourself, who will. So again,

1124
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:29,720
Speaker 4: it's it's hard to judge a player like that because

1125
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 4: he's unique. He's unique in his own way, and the

1126
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:35,720
Speaker 4: players know it too. I've seen it. After a Giants

1127
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:39,399
Speaker 4: game last season, they had seven sacks, he didn't have one,

1128
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 4: and then and they were kind of joking with him.

1129
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:44,279
Speaker 4: The players were that, you know, Mike's gonna be mad now,

1130
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:46,120
Speaker 4: you know, everyone got a sack he didn't, even though

1131
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:49,319
Speaker 4: we all know that probably he was the reason for

1132
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:52,320
Speaker 4: most of those sacks, just but just his presence alone.

1133
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:56,759
Speaker 4: So I you know, I'm trying to to you know.

1134
00:51:56,760 --> 00:52:00,560
Speaker 4: I read what what Micah's mom said about him, and

1135
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 4: and you know, and it sounded just like what a

1136
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 4: mom would say about her son. I just think he's

1137
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 4: he's probably misunderstood a little bit. He definitely wants to win.

1138
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 4: He definitely wants to to be the reason why they win.

1139
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:16,400
Speaker 4: And and and like I said, he holds himself to

1140
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:19,839
Speaker 4: the highest of standards, and so you know, I'm going

1141
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 4: to try to give him the benefit of the doubt

1142
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 4: a little bit on that and and see see what happens.

1143
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:27,240
Speaker 4: I mean, he's he's kind of said he's committed to

1144
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:30,280
Speaker 4: to make it, you know, to turning this thing around

1145
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 4: and and and getting even better next year. And you know,

1146
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:37,480
Speaker 4: I mean, it's it's an old it's not old school.

1147
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:39,440
Speaker 4: That's the thing. Mike is not old school. He's not

1148
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:42,880
Speaker 4: I mean, he's he's he plays you know, uh, I

1149
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 4: mean he's he's got his own podcast and he says

1150
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 4: a lot of things on there, and he says things

1151
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:49,440
Speaker 4: that you know, some of the old school players that

1152
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:51,360
Speaker 4: didn't say because it's just a different error. It is

1153
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:54,839
Speaker 4: what it is. But I know this that that when

1154
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 4: it's third and nine, you know, if you can get

1155
00:52:57,560 --> 00:52:59,799
Speaker 4: to that point, there's nobody in the NFL I'd rather

1156
00:52:59,840 --> 00:53:02,440
Speaker 4: have Rush in the past or than than Micah Parsons.

1157
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:03,879
Speaker 4: And I think a lot of fans kind of feel

1158
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 4: the same way.

1159
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 5: Uh.

1160
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:07,759
Speaker 4: You know, he's he's got like all of us, you know,

1161
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:11,120
Speaker 4: he's got maturing to do that that most young players do,

1162
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:13,440
Speaker 4: and uh, I think he's going to be doing that

1163
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 4: with the Dallas Cowboys for a long time. So uh,

1164
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:17,839
Speaker 4: I don't know if that answered the question or not,

1165
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:20,799
Speaker 4: But that's just my take on on what I see

1166
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:23,960
Speaker 4: from from Micah. And you know, I think he'll, you know,

1167
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 4: if he I think he'll be committed to to being

1168
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:29,200
Speaker 4: even a better player uh this next year. And if

1169
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:31,839
Speaker 4: that's that's the case, that's not good for for left

1170
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:34,160
Speaker 4: tackles and right tackles trying to trying to block them.

1171
00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:38,840
Speaker 4: So all right, let's go. Let's go to James in

1172
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:39,480
Speaker 4: New Jersey.

1173
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:45,319
Speaker 17: What's up, you know, following them this TV. He just

1174
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:48,320
Speaker 17: said about Michael getting to the quarterback on third down

1175
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:51,360
Speaker 17: if he really wants the kind of money who he

1176
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 17: thinks he wants he going to get as a defensive

1177
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:57,600
Speaker 17: and he obviously doesn't want to play linebacker. He didn't

1178
00:53:57,640 --> 00:53:59,919
Speaker 17: think so it didn't seem like it. Yeah, he should

1179
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:02,279
Speaker 17: maybe playing a little harder, it guess to one as well.

1180
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:06,360
Speaker 17: In other words, defensive end does both jobs. At this point,

1181
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:08,759
Speaker 17: he's just a pass rusher, So if he wants to

1182
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:11,600
Speaker 17: come on down the field just on third down, then

1183
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:13,640
Speaker 17: he's not going to get paid the twelve a kellion

1184
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:18,320
Speaker 17: dollars a year to be a real good defensive end. Okay,

1185
00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 17: now that's part of concerned. I don't understand where the

1186
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:23,240
Speaker 17: leadership is going to come from when you're best defensive

1187
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:27,800
Speaker 17: player is seeing stuff like I'm okay with I at peace?

1188
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:30,960
Speaker 17: That would that you would never hear somebody like Kobe

1189
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:33,879
Speaker 17: Bryant or Michael Jordan's to say what that would never

1190
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:39,719
Speaker 17: happen he said, he said, I'm at peace. That's what

1191
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:43,000
Speaker 17: he said, I'm at peace. No, you should never be

1192
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:45,120
Speaker 17: at peace with Lucy if you're going to be a

1193
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:48,200
Speaker 17: superstar and won't be a leader of your team because

1194
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 17: you're not giving a good message to the rest of

1195
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:53,520
Speaker 17: your team. You know, because I because if it doesn't

1196
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:56,239
Speaker 17: come from here from him, I have no idea where

1197
00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:58,640
Speaker 17: everyda is going to come from on defense because he's

1198
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:02,000
Speaker 17: your best player on defense. That's why, Yes, that's not

1199
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:05,439
Speaker 17: a good situation for us. Accessert The optics are not good.

1200
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:07,400
Speaker 17: He used to watch what comes out of his mouth

1201
00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:10,319
Speaker 17: because people can take it wrong. So he has to

1202
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:12,480
Speaker 17: be more careful. He's going to be the leader of

1203
00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:15,479
Speaker 17: this defense, he has to be more compizant on what's

1204
00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 17: coming out of his mouth, because it's too easy for

1205
00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 17: all of us to take it the wrong away. So

1206
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:24,200
Speaker 17: he'd be very clear what he's saying and make sure

1207
00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 17: that he's not tossing any Nelson of us, not he did,

1208
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:30,280
Speaker 17: but make sure that we're could that is not the case,

1209
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:33,480
Speaker 17: and that he's willing to do like he wants the

1210
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:37,239
Speaker 17: owners to do, go all in when he's on the

1211
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:40,520
Speaker 17: field as well. And if speaking of going all in,

1212
00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:45,480
Speaker 17: if we're going all in this season, then they need

1213
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 17: to find a way to make a deal with that

1214
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:52,440
Speaker 17: to maybe cut that salary cap hit in half, hopefully

1215
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:54,239
Speaker 17: with the multiple year extension.

1216
00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:56,600
Speaker 21: And then you get.

1217
00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:01,560
Speaker 17: Some linebacker to tell them from I'm sorry, I can't

1218
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:07,839
Speaker 17: remember the names. Oh Uh from the Ravens. Okay, they

1219
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:13,880
Speaker 17: have the linebackers, and and uh Jones from the Chiefs.

1220
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:16,760
Speaker 17: He's a free agent if you're going all in, because

1221
00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:20,719
Speaker 17: you got to get you know, and maybe Barkley from

1222
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 17: the Giants type the running back. If you're going all in, yes,

1223
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:27,440
Speaker 17: just go all in because you know we want to

1224
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:30,600
Speaker 17: win the championship. If you're gonna afterwards, we're gonna have

1225
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:33,160
Speaker 17: augh couple of years afterwards. But it won't make it

1226
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:35,040
Speaker 17: won't be any it won't be it won't make a

1227
00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:37,839
Speaker 17: difference after that point, once we win the championship after

1228
00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:39,880
Speaker 17: not winnings one for thirty years.

1229
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:42,959
Speaker 4: All right, all right, well thanks for the call, James.

1230
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:47,160
Speaker 4: I'll say this though, if if you know, fans just

1231
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:50,200
Speaker 4: just don't have selective memory. Okay, I'm like, if just

1232
00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:54,000
Speaker 4: just remember the way you know what you're thinking now,

1233
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:56,719
Speaker 4: if that's what you want, if you want, hey, I

1234
00:56:56,840 --> 00:57:01,080
Speaker 4: hope they do. If that's the mentality is, is that

1235
00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:05,799
Speaker 4: you want them to extend dak to cut his salary

1236
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:09,960
Speaker 4: cap charge this year down significantly so you can go

1237
00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:14,200
Speaker 4: and get some of those players. Then just remember that

1238
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:17,880
Speaker 4: that then if it doesn't work out next year and

1239
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:21,240
Speaker 4: and then he's still a free agent and now you know,

1240
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:23,240
Speaker 4: I mean he's not a free agent. He's still under contract,

1241
00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 4: and now that the cap charge is way higher, and

1242
00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:29,520
Speaker 4: it's like, what are the Cowboys doing? Why why do

1243
00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:32,680
Speaker 4: they still invest in this guy? It's because of this

1244
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:35,920
Speaker 4: scenario right now for this year. So if they're going

1245
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:40,160
Speaker 4: to do this, then that means he's the guy and

1246
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 4: you gotta be okay with that, you know. So if not,

1247
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:47,000
Speaker 4: then he's gonna count fifty nine million, and he's gonna

1248
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:50,480
Speaker 4: They're gonna try to win somehow, some way with with

1249
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:53,040
Speaker 4: with what they have, and they're gonna draft players and

1250
00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:55,800
Speaker 4: play them because that's probably they're not gonna have a

1251
00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:58,240
Speaker 4: lot of other options, and they're gonna have a younger

1252
00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:00,880
Speaker 4: team and and try to try to win that that way,

1253
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:03,600
Speaker 4: and then then then it doesn't work out, then then

1254
00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:06,400
Speaker 4: probably next year. If it doesn't work out this year,

1255
00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:07,920
Speaker 4: then I'm sure there'll be a different coach and a

1256
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:12,920
Speaker 4: different quarterback, and then you're basically starting over. So you know,

1257
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:15,320
Speaker 4: just just remember what you're asking for. If you really

1258
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:17,520
Speaker 4: want them to go all in, then some of the

1259
00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:19,880
Speaker 4: steps that it's going to take to do that is

1260
00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:22,960
Speaker 4: probably going to mean that, you know, your quarterback is

1261
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:24,440
Speaker 4: going to be here for a little bit. All right,

1262
00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 4: let's go to H. David in Chicago.

1263
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:29,160
Speaker 21: Yes, sir, how you doing today?

1264
00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:31,560
Speaker 4: Mick good Man? How are you doing good?

1265
00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:32,840
Speaker 21: How about them Cowboys?

1266
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:33,520
Speaker 5: All right?

1267
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:34,600
Speaker 4: How about them?

1268
00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:35,560
Speaker 21: I've been.

1269
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:37,800
Speaker 5: There, you go.

1270
00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:39,959
Speaker 4: We had to get Jimmy in there too.

1271
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:43,360
Speaker 21: Absolutely, here we go, when that too?

1272
00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:45,120
Speaker 4: Is this your first Is this your first call?

1273
00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:46,360
Speaker 21: Yes, sir?

1274
00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:47,360
Speaker 4: Well, then guess what.

1275
00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:52,600
Speaker 21: I've been a huge fan of the Cowboys since the nineties.

1276
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:54,920
Speaker 21: I'm from Chicago, so you can imagine what I've had

1277
00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:58,640
Speaker 21: to do with sure, but I was calling because of

1278
00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:01,840
Speaker 21: the Dan Quinn and information that just came about the

1279
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:06,280
Speaker 21: Washington football team. I see this as the perfect opportunity,

1280
00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:08,800
Speaker 21: and I'm not really seeing a lot of Cowboys fans

1281
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:12,560
Speaker 21: discussing this. Why don't we change the scheme now to

1282
00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:16,800
Speaker 21: a three to four put Michael Parsons at right outside linebacker.

1283
00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:19,440
Speaker 21: This will give us an extra big body in the

1284
00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:22,720
Speaker 21: middle to stop the run, and in my opinion, it

1285
00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:25,200
Speaker 21: is the best thing to do for this last year

1286
00:59:25,240 --> 00:59:28,480
Speaker 21: of McCarthy because then you can go look for your

1287
00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:31,720
Speaker 21: next head coach based upon the three four scheme. Because

1288
00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:35,560
Speaker 21: what I'm seeing is the offense they're producing numbers no

1289
00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:36,880
Speaker 21: matter who the coordinator is.

1290
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:38,400
Speaker 4: It fields like we've.

1291
00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:40,920
Speaker 21: Seen so many guys come in, even Jason Garrett producing

1292
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:43,720
Speaker 21: good numbers before with Romo and Dak. But what I

1293
00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:46,440
Speaker 21: see is the defense is the real issue when the

1294
00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:49,360
Speaker 21: rubber meets the road. So my call is basically centered

1295
00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:52,320
Speaker 21: around would you be open to a three to four defense?

1296
00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:54,840
Speaker 21: Going back to that with those Wade Phillips days because

1297
00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:58,440
Speaker 21: I remember DeMarcus wearing at three four. He was a terror.

1298
00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:01,120
Speaker 21: He went to the Denver Bronx, got to play in

1299
01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:03,920
Speaker 21: the three to four again won a Super Bowl. Now,

1300
01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:05,840
Speaker 21: of course he had a Hall of Famer on the

1301
01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:08,520
Speaker 21: other side as well, at the left outside linebacker.

1302
01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:10,439
Speaker 9: But I really do believe.

1303
01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:13,680
Speaker 21: DeMarcus Lawrence can play left outside linebacker, and in certain

1304
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Speaker 21: packages we could always still do the nickel with the

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Speaker 21: four down linemen, but I think it's smart to just

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Speaker 21: switch toward base three four just because we cannot stop

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Speaker 21: the run this day of our lives. Thank you so

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Speaker 21: much for taking my call.

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Speaker 4: All right, good thinking. I think Chris and I talked

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Speaker 4: about that just today about you know, would it be

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Speaker 4: possible to the three to four and you've mentioned DeMarcus

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Speaker 4: ware and you mentioned Micah Parsons. Yes, those guys could

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Speaker 4: be you could make them an outside linebacker in the

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Speaker 4: three to four today, I mean easy. It's not so

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Speaker 4: much about that to me as it is the other lineman.

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Speaker 4: Who do you have the defensive ends that are really

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Speaker 4: defensive tackles. Do you have those guys? You know, do

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Speaker 4: you have two inside linebackers that can step up and

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Speaker 4: make those plays. Do you have a nose tackle? You know,

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Speaker 4: you'd have to probably sign Hankins for that. And you

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Speaker 4: know there's osa fit into that, you know, is he

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Speaker 4: is he a three to four guy? Could he fit perhaps?

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Speaker 8: You know?

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Speaker 4: I mean I think I think great football players can

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01:01:23,320 --> 01:01:25,520
Speaker 4: be great football players. One thing's always kind of annoyed

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Speaker 4: me when they're like, no, we can't sign this guy.

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Speaker 4: He's not he's not a scheme fit, you know, like

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Speaker 4: like the Honey Badger, like Tyron Matthews. The one always

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01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:34,919
Speaker 4: comes to mind, like, no, it doesn't fit the scheme.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, well, he's a badass in like four other schemes,

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01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:40,240
Speaker 4: so why can't we just change the scheme? You know,

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Speaker 4: Like I know it's it's different than that. But sometimes

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Speaker 4: I think, if you I think great players can can

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01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:51,320
Speaker 4: fit into a scheme, okay, And so I think there's

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Speaker 4: other other pieces there. I don't necessarily seeing them switching

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01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:59,840
Speaker 4: to a three four unless they're committed over over time,

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01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:02,520
Speaker 4: you know. And that's the thing. Bill Parcells tried to

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Speaker 4: do that in over a couple of years. He started

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01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:07,000
Speaker 4: in two thousand and five, and he was going to

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Speaker 4: do it for a couple of years. But what happened

1341
01:02:09,160 --> 01:02:12,160
Speaker 4: was is they drafted where they drafted Spears, then they

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Speaker 4: drafted Kevin Burnett, and then later on they drafted Chris

1343
01:02:15,640 --> 01:02:19,360
Speaker 4: Canny and Dre Ratliffe and so in one draft. So

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Speaker 4: I mean, we still a documentary on that we did,

1345
01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:25,400
Speaker 4: but all of those guys in one draft. And now

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Speaker 4: that all of a sudden, I know we can play

1347
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Speaker 4: three four right now. We have the pieces in place,

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Speaker 4: So if they can do that, I don't necessarily see

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01:02:33,680 --> 01:02:36,080
Speaker 4: it happening in one year, but it might be kind

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Speaker 4: of a commitment that you can go to and yeah,

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Speaker 4: I think Micah Parsons can do it. It's do you

1352
01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:44,880
Speaker 4: have the insight pieces that would kind of were really

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Speaker 4: what it comes down to, all right, Joe and Stanford.

1354
01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:49,640
Speaker 4: He's gonna be our last caller, usually the first caller.

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Speaker 13: But what's up, hey, brother? Are you today?

1356
01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:53,560
Speaker 4: I'm good? What's up?

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Speaker 13: Well? I'm sorry, miss Woody, but I've got to talk

1358
01:02:56,600 --> 01:02:58,760
Speaker 13: to him before, so it's only fair somebody else gets

1359
01:02:58,760 --> 01:02:59,200
Speaker 13: talked to him.

1360
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Speaker 4: I appreciate that.

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01:03:00,680 --> 01:03:02,560
Speaker 13: So I haven't been listening to the show. I just

1362
01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:04,800
Speaker 13: I just called in cold here. I haven't been able

1363
01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:07,800
Speaker 13: to get you while I'm in my vehicle. But my my,

1364
01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:09,840
Speaker 13: my question obviously is going to be about dan Quinn.

1365
01:03:09,880 --> 01:03:12,360
Speaker 13: When we talked the other day, we talked about, Hey,

1366
01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:15,040
Speaker 13: is this gonna just nothing's gonna change. Well, obviously that's not.

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Speaker 7: Going to be the case.

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Speaker 13: Now put you see about on Joe, Well, oh I

1369
01:03:21,840 --> 01:03:25,560
Speaker 13: got a female time. Oh you you heard the thing?

1370
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Speaker 13: That's my wife.

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01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:29,720
Speaker 4: You see about on?

1372
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Speaker 13: That's funny. Oh, that's funny. You heard that. So obviously

1373
01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:40,440
Speaker 13: there's going to be changes. Uh. Do you feel like

1374
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Speaker 13: that this coaching pick is going to be one hundred

1375
01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:50,400
Speaker 13: percent Mike McCarthy's decision? Bid People said, Mike McCarthy's a

1376
01:03:50,480 --> 01:03:51,200
Speaker 13: decision or what.

1377
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Speaker 4: That's a good question. That's a really good question.

1378
01:03:55,600 --> 01:03:55,840
Speaker 17: Joe.

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Speaker 4: Uh, Well, I'll say this, none of it, None of

1380
01:04:01,040 --> 01:04:03,920
Speaker 4: these decisions will probably be one hundred percent Mike McCarthy's

1381
01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:06,600
Speaker 4: because I think that they all pride themselves on how

1382
01:04:06,640 --> 01:04:09,840
Speaker 4: they collaborate and and and they they don't always make

1383
01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:12,360
Speaker 4: decisions that are one hundred percent. They get on the

1384
01:04:12,360 --> 01:04:14,880
Speaker 4: same page. But I know exactly what you're thinking and

1385
01:04:15,360 --> 01:04:19,800
Speaker 4: why you're saying that, and it's a it's a good question. Yeah,

1386
01:04:19,800 --> 01:04:22,240
Speaker 4: he's probably gonna have some guys in mind that he

1387
01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:25,560
Speaker 4: that he really wants. But at the same time, I'm

1388
01:04:25,640 --> 01:04:27,480
Speaker 4: sure you know, Jerry and Steven, they're gonna have to

1389
01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:31,200
Speaker 4: sign off on that, so they'll, i mean, they'll figure

1390
01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:33,800
Speaker 4: it out. But but yeah, and we'll probably never know,

1391
01:04:34,560 --> 01:04:37,120
Speaker 4: you know, whether what happens down the road. But that

1392
01:04:37,120 --> 01:04:39,520
Speaker 4: that's a that's a really good question. And and you know,

1393
01:04:39,600 --> 01:04:41,840
Speaker 4: I think if we knew the answer to that, then

1394
01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:44,200
Speaker 4: we would know exactly what what might happen here in

1395
01:04:44,240 --> 01:04:45,080
Speaker 4: the next year or two.

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Speaker 13: Well, one thing, there are three really great candidates out.

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Speaker 11: There, and I know the probably be discussed, now go

1398
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Speaker 11: for it.

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Speaker 13: Who do you got the three? And I'm gonna talk

1400
01:04:57,720 --> 01:04:59,640
Speaker 13: about I'm gonna get made fun up a little bit.

1401
01:04:59,720 --> 01:05:04,200
Speaker 13: But there all three head coaches Rabel, uh, the coach

1402
01:05:04,240 --> 01:05:07,640
Speaker 13: from the Commander's pp for guy's name now, uh, they

1403
01:05:07,720 --> 01:05:11,480
Speaker 13: head coach that just got fired, and Bill Belichick. So

1404
01:05:12,320 --> 01:05:15,320
Speaker 13: those are three candidates that would be real good defensive

1405
01:05:15,320 --> 01:05:17,680
Speaker 13: coordinators and they're not going to be head coaches.

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01:05:17,320 --> 01:05:24,200
Speaker 4: This year, Okay, Ron Rivera that one that one maybe

1407
01:05:24,280 --> 01:05:28,280
Speaker 4: could make some sense. Rabel not sure if about that.

1408
01:05:28,320 --> 01:05:30,680
Speaker 4: When he's he's trying to be a head coach, and

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01:05:30,880 --> 01:05:34,120
Speaker 4: it may be a situation like McCarthy where he would

1410
01:05:34,200 --> 01:05:38,680
Speaker 4: sit out a year and then and then we'll see Belichick.

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Speaker 4: I'm I'm sorry, I just don't I don't see the greatest,

1412
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Speaker 4: you know, the greatest head coach of all time, just

1413
01:05:45,520 --> 01:05:48,280
Speaker 4: not not you know, getting a job and being a

1414
01:05:48,320 --> 01:05:51,360
Speaker 4: defensive coordinator under Mike McCarthy. I mean, just don't see

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Speaker 4: that happening. What a terrible situation that would be from

1416
01:05:55,240 --> 01:05:58,919
Speaker 4: for McCarthy. I mean, seriously, forget forget losing a game.

1417
01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:00,840
Speaker 4: I mean, like if you're down at the half, I mean,

1418
01:06:01,600 --> 01:06:03,920
Speaker 4: there're gonna be people calling for you at that point.

1419
01:06:03,960 --> 01:06:08,000
Speaker 4: That this doesn't seem like a fun situation for him

1420
01:06:08,040 --> 01:06:10,840
Speaker 4: at least, But then again, that's it's not all about that.

1421
01:06:10,920 --> 01:06:12,760
Speaker 4: I I I don't see that happening. But I think

1422
01:06:12,800 --> 01:06:14,880
Speaker 4: Rivera would be a name that you would throw out there.

1423
01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:18,120
Speaker 4: And then Uh and Vrabel as well. I think I

1424
01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:21,280
Speaker 4: know uh are one of our staff writers, Nick Harris

1425
01:06:21,360 --> 01:06:24,560
Speaker 4: is working on a story on on some potential names,

1426
01:06:24,600 --> 01:06:26,640
Speaker 4: and and those two are on there. I don't think

1427
01:06:26,720 --> 01:06:29,240
Speaker 4: Belichick is on there, but also some some in house

1428
01:06:29,440 --> 01:06:32,160
Speaker 4: you know names as well from the Cowboys staff. And

1429
01:06:32,440 --> 01:06:36,200
Speaker 4: but like I said, I'll reiterate, I think I think

1430
01:06:36,240 --> 01:06:39,240
Speaker 4: some of the questions about scheme and all that it's

1431
01:06:39,280 --> 01:06:41,400
Speaker 4: got it just like it would on offense. Okay, just

1432
01:06:41,440 --> 01:06:44,400
Speaker 4: like if you've brought in an offensive coordinator, your first

1433
01:06:44,520 --> 01:06:47,080
Speaker 4: question would be what what how do you how do

1434
01:06:47,120 --> 01:06:48,960
Speaker 4: you view dak and what what are some of the

1435
01:06:48,960 --> 01:06:51,560
Speaker 4: things you're gonna do with him? It's the same with

1436
01:06:51,640 --> 01:06:54,800
Speaker 4: Micah Parsons. And so that's that's what I would be

1437
01:06:54,840 --> 01:06:57,480
Speaker 4: interested in, is what what do they what do they think?

1438
01:06:57,800 --> 01:07:00,560
Speaker 4: Where do they think he would line up? What's best

1439
01:07:00,600 --> 01:07:02,880
Speaker 4: for him? And then also that's a one A and

1440
01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:05,600
Speaker 4: then one B is you know, how are you gonna

1441
01:07:05,600 --> 01:07:08,280
Speaker 4: stop the run? That's that's what they gotta do. You

1442
01:07:08,360 --> 01:07:10,880
Speaker 4: gotta be able to stop the run. But good, good stuff,

1443
01:07:11,040 --> 01:07:14,600
Speaker 4: Like I always love when when people call in, even

1444
01:07:14,680 --> 01:07:16,960
Speaker 4: if their opinions are kind of out there, even if

1445
01:07:16,960 --> 01:07:21,240
Speaker 4: they've got some some outlandish you know, observations or whatever,

1446
01:07:21,520 --> 01:07:25,240
Speaker 4: you know, don't just we see the problems, try to

1447
01:07:25,280 --> 01:07:27,400
Speaker 4: find a solution, try to come up with an answer.

1448
01:07:27,560 --> 01:07:30,320
Speaker 4: That's what I love. And so I'm never gonna say, oh,

1449
01:07:30,360 --> 01:07:32,920
Speaker 4: that's that's crazy or wild or whatever, because you know,

1450
01:07:33,360 --> 01:07:36,040
Speaker 4: here we are stuck with these questions that we don't

1451
01:07:36,040 --> 01:07:38,160
Speaker 4: have answers to. But at least let's come up and

1452
01:07:38,840 --> 01:07:40,840
Speaker 4: figure it out. You know, it's like going outside in

1453
01:07:41,880 --> 01:07:44,080
Speaker 4: Texas in July and saying it's hot. Well, we all

1454
01:07:44,120 --> 01:07:46,200
Speaker 4: know that what we're gonna do about it? You know,

1455
01:07:46,560 --> 01:07:48,600
Speaker 4: you're gonna you're gonna fix the AC or you're gonna

1456
01:07:48,600 --> 01:07:51,080
Speaker 4: get indoors or what are you gonna do? So all right,

1457
01:07:51,240 --> 01:07:53,320
Speaker 4: sounds good. This has been a it's been a really

1458
01:07:53,680 --> 01:07:57,320
Speaker 4: good show. Appreciate all the calls. Also, Darren Woodson joined

1459
01:07:57,360 --> 01:07:59,640
Speaker 4: us for the first twenty minutes or so twenty five minutes.

1460
01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:02,800
Speaker 4: Great to be on with him. We're all got our

1461
01:08:02,800 --> 01:08:05,720
Speaker 4: fingers crossed that he is going to be in the

1462
01:08:05,760 --> 01:08:09,520
Speaker 4: Pro Football Hall of Fame this time next week. We'll

1463
01:08:09,520 --> 01:08:11,680
Speaker 4: find that out. That is the reason why there will

1464
01:08:11,720 --> 01:08:14,440
Speaker 4: not be a Thursday show next week, because I'll be

1465
01:08:14,520 --> 01:08:19,280
Speaker 4: there in Vegas as well covering that. Also NFL Honors

1466
01:08:20,120 --> 01:08:22,680
Speaker 4: and anybody else that's kind of walking around Radio Row

1467
01:08:22,720 --> 01:08:25,240
Speaker 4: that tends to happen. I know we talked to Dak

1468
01:08:25,320 --> 01:08:28,639
Speaker 4: and Micah Parsons there last year, so we'll see if

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01:08:29,040 --> 01:08:33,360
Speaker 4: see what I can get into their next Thursday. But

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Speaker 4: we will have a show on Tuesday at the normal time,

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Speaker 4: back to our one o'clock time. We changed it today

1472
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Speaker 4: to accommodate Darren's schedule, but we'll be back at one

1473
01:08:41,320 --> 01:08:46,200
Speaker 4: o'clock on Tuesday, taking all of your calls. Talking about

1474
01:08:46,240 --> 01:08:50,160
Speaker 4: the Pro Ball. Probably not, but we'll be talking about

1475
01:08:50,439 --> 01:08:53,400
Speaker 4: whatever whatever happens. Maybe a new defensive coordinator by then,

1476
01:08:53,520 --> 01:08:56,040
Speaker 4: or or we'll at least talk about some of the candidates.

1477
01:08:56,040 --> 01:08:59,040
Speaker 4: So for Chris Beam, I'm Nick Eatman. We will see

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Speaker 4: you next time on cap Boy Storyline seem

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