Speaker 1: We're back and You're out in God's Country with Dan
Speaker 1: and Rita is also known as The Brother's Son, where
Speaker 1: we take a weekly drive to the intersection of country
Speaker 1: music and the outdoors. Two things that go together like
Speaker 1: saw mill gravy and Mama's homemade biscuits.
Speaker 2: Like cookies and bellby the cheese now just go together
Speaker 2: really good. I know, tried. If you have our dad
Speaker 2: used to it's like poor Man's Cheese Goods.
Speaker 1: A podcast produced by Meat Eater and iHeart podcasts.
Speaker 2: So hop on up Rod, Shuck Nun with us as
Speaker 2: we get to know some of the creators behind the
Speaker 2: songs you know.
Speaker 1: In love like Ben Hasty.
Speaker 2: Dude never Ben broke haste.
Speaker 1: I didn't want it to him.
Speaker 2: Turns out he was broke, yeah at one point, but
Speaker 2: he started hacking him. Dude wasn't balled out?
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: Another another songwriter buddy of ours that we've we've written
Speaker 1: some songs with and but in the in the songwriting room,
Speaker 1: you don't get into the conversation like we do in
Speaker 1: this podcast.
Speaker 2: There's just not time to do so. I mean, when
Speaker 2: you've got a write booked at eleven and you've got
Speaker 2: to be out of there by three thirty, which he's
Speaker 2: a busy guy, dude. I mean that guy's yeah, doing
Speaker 2: it like he's top of it.
Speaker 1: And sometimes when you're in there with with somebody, you're
Speaker 1: writing with somebody that you've never met before, you do
Speaker 1: get into man, how'd you come to Nashville and the story.
Speaker 1: But that's what's cool about sitting down in this room,
Speaker 1: being able to talk to him for you know, an
Speaker 1: hour or what a forty five minutes and really hearing
Speaker 1: about those stories about how they grew up.
Speaker 2: What they did, what they wanted, how they.
Speaker 1: Get into the deer stand story.
Speaker 2: Great killer.
Speaker 1: This guy played in the College World Series for a
Speaker 1: team that wasn't supposed to play in the College World Series,
Speaker 1: which is pretty cool.
Speaker 2: Man, and honestly probably could have gone pro. He was
Speaker 2: a baller, dude.
Speaker 1: You got a kid that's playing at Alabama right now.
Speaker 2: All his kids are ballers, dude. All oh, you just
Speaker 2: need to listen to the podcast.
Speaker 1: You see, which it was great man. We didn't want
Speaker 1: it to end. Benza is a great is world class guy,
Speaker 1: world class songwriter.
Speaker 2: He'll be in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, just cool stories, cool outlook on the whole thing.
Speaker 2: Great dude, great dad, great songwriting, a great friend. So
Speaker 2: check it out. Put your headphones in so listen to it, sir.
Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to God's Country.
Speaker 2: Never Been Broke. We got a good one for y'all.
Speaker 1: Got got a songwriting buddy in here that's having trying
Speaker 1: to get he's having trouble getting songs cut.
Speaker 2: It's always had.
Speaker 1: Trouble getting songs cut for what thirty years?
Speaker 2: I mean Reagan was president when I moved here.
Speaker 1: Y'all don't know any of the songs this president. You
Speaker 1: don't know any of the songs this guy's written, probably
Speaker 1: never heard anything that.
Speaker 3: That's why I'm here. I mean, I want to get
Speaker 3: my name out.
Speaker 1: There, giving him a platform. That's what we do, dude, that's.
Speaker 3: What we try to try to say. No doubt you're
Speaker 3: desperate for something.
Speaker 1: I ain't no doubt, no man, we got We got
Speaker 1: Ben Hayslip in the room. This guy's I mean, he's
Speaker 1: a hit maker. Dude writes hit.
Speaker 2: Song has been, has been for a while.
Speaker 3: Dude has been Hayslip man about right on that too.
Speaker 1: Last time I saw Ben, we were riding over at
Speaker 1: the at fifty Egg, where I write and guy steps
Speaker 1: out of this nice brand new you know, Ford truck
Speaker 1: lifted looks good.
Speaker 2: Dude got the wheels.
Speaker 1: On it with a he's got a nineteen sixty eight
Speaker 1: Gibson stepped out in no case, comes inside, sits down.
Speaker 1: We're talking catching up, and I see Ben flipping his
Speaker 1: guitar over and just kind of shaking his head and man,
Speaker 1: dad gument Man, Man, I'm like, dude, what's what's wrong
Speaker 1: with dude? You look like you're in a tough spot
Speaker 1: over there. He's like, last night, man, I was in
Speaker 1: my room picking around on my guitar and my dang
Speaker 1: lab ran in. He was like, I just he's barking
Speaker 1: and going crazy, jumping on the couch. He's like, so
Speaker 1: I just flipped my guitar around, smacked him in the
Speaker 1: ass with it, broke my guitar.
Speaker 2: All you know, you got money if you smack it.
Speaker 2: Ain't no doubt labs with sixty eight Gibson and just
Speaker 2: looking at it, going dang man, not like good feel it.
Speaker 2: What's the dog's name?
Speaker 3: His name is hook h u K. Yeah, So broke
Speaker 3: the guitar all the way down the back. Hadn't got
Speaker 3: it fixed yet because I'm a little superstitious.
Speaker 2: After I broke it. I wrote a.
Speaker 3: Song a couple of days later, and Luke Brian cut
Speaker 3: it four days after I wrote it.
Speaker 2: Now Here is every time break.
Speaker 3: I can't get mixed now, I mean, I'm kind.
Speaker 2: Of Luke can't. I don't know, man, I see these
Speaker 2: songs he never writes, and then the first story of
Speaker 2: his mouth about Luke.
Speaker 1: Luke Brian cuts every song that we don't write with you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what's up with that, dude?
Speaker 3: I mean, I send him five hundred songs a year
Speaker 3: and he cuts maybe one.
Speaker 2: If I'm is that the way to do it? That's
Speaker 2: a trick. I guess quantity over.
Speaker 3: I send four hundred ninety nine that don't even get
Speaker 3: a response.
Speaker 2: I feel that, you know, what I made him listen
Speaker 2: to yesterday was that this s ain't no hobby. I
Speaker 2: said it to him. He's also on that South Georgia
Speaker 2: summer some songs I just don't get.
Speaker 1: I just don't understand.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we did that, Yes, all right, let's not do it.
Speaker 1: Dan O looking a little looking a little less uh
Speaker 1: uh less like you got money like there, your wallet's
Speaker 1: hurting over there. You had a talk he took a
Speaker 1: hit yesterday. Had you had you had a day?
Speaker 2: Man? What happened yesterday? Down? I had a bit of
Speaker 2: a day. So all r luke because a couple of
Speaker 2: days ago, It's like, man, I didn't move some stands,
Speaker 2: which means we all come over and move some stands.
Speaker 1: Which means bring read over here and let red move
Speaker 1: stands and put them.
Speaker 2: Up for us. Whatever it means. Either way, who goes
Speaker 2: the top and think many?
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, but the bottom holder.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you think it would work better the other way around.
Speaker 1: I was wrapped around white oaks all day with poison
Speaker 1: ivy in my eyeball.
Speaker 2: That was it wasn't poison over it. I didn't die
Speaker 2: last night. So that I told you that it had
Speaker 2: one leaf, I was like, hey, man, I know it's
Speaker 2: in your face, like literally, but that's not I.
Speaker 1: Was like, I'm about to go to the BEMI Awards,
Speaker 1: except my first award with eyes like Will Smith looking
Speaker 1: some bitch up there with just can't even see I'm
Speaker 1: poisoned sumac all over.
Speaker 2: And look at it and get it.
Speaker 3: And my oldest kid can He's up there grabbing it
Speaker 3: by his hand, pulling it off the tree. I don't
Speaker 3: understand how I can't, and I get it from watching
Speaker 3: him good.
Speaker 2: I'm shocked. I'm not, of course, it usually takes two days.
Speaker 1: One time of year. I get it all like I
Speaker 1: have to go get shots and take message. I get it.
Speaker 2: Were stands we do it earlier than this.
Speaker 1: We probably just start doing it the winter.
Speaker 2: Bro So we go over there. We get done with
Speaker 2: the first stand, I think and looks like, oh, we
Speaker 2: need some more baring chain on for this. Uh we
Speaker 2: got one the post sauce, you know.
Speaker 1: So he not me, brand new to walk, got the
Speaker 1: thrust little.
Speaker 2: He puts it in the back of my ranger. So
Speaker 2: him and really take off. They've gone. I'm coming down
Speaker 2: through there. They pull into the barn and there's a section.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, I can just squirb up in there.
Speaker 2: So I go over side and I was like, what
Speaker 2: did I just do?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 2: Like I didn't know. I mean, it sounds shock going on,
Speaker 2: and so I thought I have hit his barn door,
Speaker 2: and I know that's Spencer. I look back man, that
Speaker 2: post office forty five and dude, I mean it is
Speaker 2: And I was like, I was like, well, at least
Speaker 2: it's the richest human in the world that I broke. So,
Speaker 2: I mean, maybe it's not that you know. He was like, yeah,
Speaker 2: go ahead, benmo me that one eighty. I was like, Mitch,
Speaker 2: you put it in the back, dude, and he was like,
Speaker 2: you're right, I did, but just go ahead. Ben. I
Speaker 2: was like, he's gonna hit me up for it. Last
Speaker 2: night we just got in the truck. It was like, dude,
Speaker 2: it was like, just venmo me one eighty.
Speaker 1: He was, I'll send you an Amazon link.
Speaker 3: Hit y'all have it on him. I'd go and get
Speaker 3: it too.
Speaker 2: I see. That's literally what I said. I was like, honestly, dude, yeah, I.
Speaker 1: Think I see ye saw, I'll send you thank you note.
Speaker 2: But I so I but I told him, I said, well,
Speaker 2: put that broke one in my I bought that broken then,
Speaker 2: you know, so put it in my trucks. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: go fix it. So I got that. Daddy's coming to
Speaker 2: your house right now to get it out of the
Speaker 2: back of your truck.
Speaker 1: Was in my truck.
Speaker 2: He's gonna look at it.
Speaker 1: But that's kind of that's kind of where we're at.
Speaker 1: We're moving stands where it's that time of year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you've been in the woods.
Speaker 3: And man, you know, I'm to the point now where
Speaker 3: I loved it. I mean, I hunted my whole life,
Speaker 3: you know, growing up, I did it as much as
Speaker 3: you can possibly do it. But when you get where
Speaker 3: I'm at now, it's like, I'm all about getting my
Speaker 3: kids ready. Sure you know, yeah, I've been in the
Speaker 3: woods a lot, but if I had him sat in
Speaker 3: the stand, It's like last year, I went hunting one
Speaker 3: time and I'm thinking, if if this bug that my
Speaker 3: kid has been hunting walks out here, ain't no way
Speaker 3: in this world. I can't pull this truck. I'm not
Speaker 3: gonna pull this trigger. I get that, And so it's
Speaker 3: still that I'm there now. I'm like, man, I want
Speaker 3: to I want to do all the stuff I want to.
Speaker 3: I want to help with, you know, do the food plots.
Speaker 3: I want to get the stands up, find the spots,
Speaker 3: clean the spots, you know everything. I like doing all that, absolutely,
Speaker 3: but I do it now so my kid can walk
Speaker 3: out there and one of my kids, any of them,
Speaker 3: and one of them did, yeah, yeah he did.
Speaker 2: And was that the buck he was after.
Speaker 3: No, it's not the one he's after, but it is
Speaker 3: a nice one. There's there's a couple more out there
Speaker 3: now that we're after. But yeah, it's like I enjoy
Speaker 3: all the other stuff that go along with deer hunting
Speaker 3: right now as much as I do sitting in the
Speaker 3: stand and kill the one.
Speaker 1: It seems like you get to that point. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: that's that's like a that's a common theme I think
Speaker 1: across hunters and big deer hunters that have you know,
Speaker 1: you kind of grow up and you fall in love
Speaker 1: with it, and you fall in love with the chase,
Speaker 1: and you go all over the country chasing them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you get maybe you beat them a couple of
Speaker 1: times and get beat a lot, but you have a
Speaker 1: double good deer that you've hunted and taught you how
Speaker 1: to be a better hunter, and you got hanging on
Speaker 1: the wall and you tell those stories. But it gets
Speaker 1: to a point it seems like that, man, I like,
Speaker 1: I mean, the the prep work is always going to
Speaker 1: be there, yeah, But when you're in the stand, man,
Speaker 1: it's it's it's almost just as as rewarding as just
Speaker 1: sitting there and being out there and watching them, especially
Speaker 1: probably in your case, I got young kids, but I
Speaker 1: can totally see myself getting into it. For their say, yeah,
Speaker 1: way more down the road than That's one.
Speaker 3: Of the best things I've ever done. I think as
Speaker 3: a parent, it's just you know, just helping them.
Speaker 2: Develop that love for the outdoors. Yeah, it's just awesome. Man,
Speaker 2: that's interesting. How do you how do you feel like
Speaker 2: that's a good I.
Speaker 3: Think you just take them. You just take you know,
Speaker 3: you take them hunting, and uh, they're gonna fall in
Speaker 3: love with it.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: When you take a kid deer hunting and they have
Speaker 3: a little success early, sure, it's gonna be willing for
Speaker 3: the rest of their life. Like us, They're not ever
Speaker 3: going to grow out of that.
Speaker 2: That's true.
Speaker 3: You know, I don't do it as much personally now,
Speaker 3: but I'm doing all the other stuff to come with it.
Speaker 3: To me, is you know that's just rewarding to me.
Speaker 3: Is for my kid to Yeah, you know it is
Speaker 3: for me.
Speaker 2: I remember y'all talking about you and Rat talking about y'all,
Speaker 2: y'all cutting plots for doves ll Kelly doves. You're probably did.
Speaker 2: We had a pretty good these jokers. I mean, they
Speaker 2: were in deep non and what you want to do,
Speaker 2: you don't have to go ahead and playing them. Call
Speaker 2: this guy he's gonna to spray because he's going to
Speaker 2: have to kill him. Before the time, I mean, I
Speaker 2: was just like, what are these dudes talking? Yeah, because
Speaker 2: I don't know nothing about that. I mean, we grew
Speaker 2: up dove Hunt, but it was always just go to
Speaker 2: a buddy's field. Yeah, yeah, kill about six or eight,
Speaker 2: go home. Well.
Speaker 3: We had a Yeah, we had a good time. Man,
Speaker 3: this first time I ever planted my place.
Speaker 2: But uh so, how do you do it? Do you
Speaker 2: just do sunflower seeds and we do?
Speaker 3: You do some flour millet, you burn? I mean, I
Speaker 3: mean I only know the whole process, man. I mean
Speaker 3: I got a guy to do it. But they come
Speaker 3: in and burn it and then reseed it, you know.
Speaker 1: Sure.
Speaker 2: I mean it's just a whole process.
Speaker 1: But you have droves in there.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So it's amazing, man to see all this work. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and you're out there and open the day and you're like, man,
Speaker 3: all this work we put in and there's a sky
Speaker 3: full of doves flying across sick.
Speaker 2: Man. We never have onuns like that. I feel like
Speaker 2: dove Hunt.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like back in the day when we
Speaker 1: were growing up there we had some of those.
Speaker 2: We weren't playing. We weren't doing our is too deer
Speaker 2: crazy yea. He was like, we ain't putting no field
Speaker 2: on anything we got because we don't want to run
Speaker 2: the deer off of it.
Speaker 3: What a good thing about you know, you're planting wheat too.
Speaker 3: So sure after dove season has kind of done the deer,
Speaker 3: I mean they're in there every day.
Speaker 2: They love it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it was always something for us. Dove
Speaker 1: hunt was always something for us that was like it
Speaker 1: was just getting getting out there, you know, and and
Speaker 1: it was it was scratching the itch before deer season.
Speaker 2: Aspect. The social aspect of dove hunting is a lot
Speaker 2: of fun, like.
Speaker 1: The even if you don't go out there and you
Speaker 1: don't shoot a million, like even if you if you're
Speaker 1: just out there with buddies and yeah.
Speaker 2: The top can you shoot it more than once? Because
Speaker 2: we always just went that open to day and that
Speaker 2: was kind of it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you shoot it as many time as you want to.
Speaker 2: Really, does it get better? Does it get worse? Well?
Speaker 3: I mean usually the first one is the best. This
Speaker 3: year with us was kind of opposite because we our
Speaker 3: dove field didn't get ready in time for the dove
Speaker 3: to actually find us. Yeah, you know, we had a
Speaker 3: pretty good opening day, but our second hunt was better
Speaker 3: than I first.
Speaker 2: Really, so how long ago? How long was the space between?
Speaker 3: No, we waited about ten twelve days between the first
Speaker 3: one and second, and by that time every dove in
Speaker 3: the county found out where we were, and.
Speaker 2: You were, well, they were't getting hunted there, so so
Speaker 2: use it's opposite, but that's the way it was for
Speaker 2: us this year.
Speaker 1: What's your best uh, what's your best recipe?
Speaker 2: What do you like doing? To man?
Speaker 3: My oldest kid has the best recipe. Wraps some in bacon. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: tell me there's a better rest.
Speaker 2: There ain't no.
Speaker 1: Better res bacon everybody else, but that is that's and
Speaker 1: it's I feel like it's the same thing for Duck.
Speaker 1: I feel like it's the same thing for I mean,
Speaker 1: there's some deer recipes out there that are great, But dude,
Speaker 1: if you wrap any piece of meat and a piece
Speaker 1: of bake with some cream, cheese, jalapeno and you put
Speaker 1: it on a grill.
Speaker 2: For alipenno, it's hard to beat. Dude. It is halipenne.
Speaker 1: You know, why are you making fun of me?
Speaker 2: How you say? You say it like that? My dad
Speaker 2: says London. He says London. I don't know. You said, Ali, kialapeno.
Speaker 2: Maybe it's hard.
Speaker 1: It's hard work to say it's not hard. How are
Speaker 1: you saying it? Kalipino, jalipena alipina pepper. Isn't that one
Speaker 1: like a Mexican pig?
Speaker 2: I had a pain, Hilipino. Did you grow up hunting Georgia? Yeah?
Speaker 3: I mean I grew up hunting my whole life.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: Really, yeah, I kind of my granddaddy's kind of what
Speaker 3: the person who got me into My dad didn't really
Speaker 3: deer hunt a lot, so my granddaddy took me. I
Speaker 3: remember funny stories like the first time he so, I
Speaker 3: decided I was gonna build my own stand. What age,
Speaker 3: I mean probably twelve or thirteen, And so I built
Speaker 3: this deer stand and when I got done with it,
Speaker 3: it weighed about eight hundred pounds. I mean all right,
Speaker 3: said yeah, it was eight feet off the ground. But
Speaker 3: I remember my granddad said, I will go find your
Speaker 3: spot if you do this on you own. Now go
Speaker 3: find your spot, put that stand up, go kill you
Speaker 3: on you on nice. So I loved that stand somehow
Speaker 3: in the back of his truck and I myself was
Speaker 3: twelve thirteen years old.
Speaker 2: I headed down the power line.
Speaker 3: There was one There's a long wooden power pole in
Speaker 3: the middle of this power line, right in the middle.
Speaker 3: Ain't no cover nothing. So I look at that. I'm thinking, man,
Speaker 3: that's a good spot right there. I was against everything
Speaker 3: I have been talked about hunting, say, but I somehow
Speaker 3: got that stand at the back of that truck.
Speaker 2: Was it already like ladders all put together like one unit.
Speaker 3: Oh, this is a big old wooden stand.
Speaker 2: It's just gonna lead it up against the tree.
Speaker 3: I leaned it out of the truck and let it
Speaker 3: just fall against that pole. And then I did the
Speaker 3: power pole on the pole, on the pole. I love it.
Speaker 3: And then I had a pie I never forget. I
Speaker 3: had a piece of yellow nylon rope, so I tied
Speaker 3: that sucker underneath it around the around the pole, and
Speaker 3: it was it was a wabbley as you get. You
Speaker 3: could getting on more wabble in the stand. But I
Speaker 3: was only eight. I was eight foot off the ground.
Speaker 3: So I take the truck back, get the fo whiler,
Speaker 3: bring the foiler back down there. You know, got my
Speaker 3: gun and everything. I'm thinking we're going to part my
Speaker 3: foe there. So somehow I just said.
Speaker 2: I'm a parker. You hunted that day? Oh yeah, it's
Speaker 2: all I.
Speaker 3: Had went down in no time, thirteen year old brain bro.
Speaker 3: So I parked my foiler under the stand, hecky on
Speaker 3: the pole, heck in the middle of the field, with
Speaker 3: no cover nothing. So I get I mean literally, I
Speaker 3: sit in the stand. I had not been there ten minutes.
Speaker 2: This is not real.
Speaker 3: No, it was in the middle of the rut too. So this,
Speaker 3: this is one of the biggest bucks I ever killed
Speaker 3: to this day, walks from here to that wall fifteen
Speaker 3: feet from me in that stand, in that stand, walks
Speaker 3: straight and stops in front of me, four wheel on her. Nay,
Speaker 3: I shoot the deer and I go back get the foar.
Speaker 3: I'm excited, man, I get I headed back to my granddaddy.
Speaker 3: I got I got one. Let's get the truck and
Speaker 3: go get him. So were heading down the power line
Speaker 3: and we get about. You know, you can see that
Speaker 3: see that pole. He's like you sitting right.
Speaker 1: There, Yes, sir, yes, sir, you dang right there you go.
Speaker 3: Where'd you where'd you park you for? I said, right
Speaker 3: underneath the stand. He just looks at me and goes,
Speaker 3: I'll be down. He said, he just walked right there.
Speaker 2: Huh, I said, right there, he's laying there. Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: Man, you don't try to tell me there ain't a
Speaker 2: god when that happened, you.
Speaker 3: Know, when he getting ruted, I mean anything, but yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean that would have happened on normal day, you know.
Speaker 3: But I mean all that's true story. I mean, I
Speaker 3: wouldn't put this stand up out there in the field,
Speaker 3: you know, I mean the wabbly stand. I mean, you know,
Speaker 3: wonder and fall.
Speaker 2: Yeah, how great is that?
Speaker 1: Though that your granted that was like, hey, man, do
Speaker 1: it by yourself.
Speaker 2: Go get you one. Dear it out. I mean, I
Speaker 2: don't think he's goren. They probably expected to go kill
Speaker 2: him one.
Speaker 1: For power, but taking the reins off man, unhooking, hooking
Speaker 1: the chain, dude, go do it.
Speaker 3: He learned something that day, though, He's like, man, you know,
Speaker 3: put you put a stand in the middle of it.
Speaker 3: That's my favorite. That's my favorite place to go. If
Speaker 3: I had one place to go hunting right now, i'd
Speaker 3: be that that power line.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that wouldn't be on that pole.
Speaker 1: But yeah, off a little bit, but probably stand that
Speaker 1: we grew up doing that same thing. I mean, my
Speaker 1: first year I ever killed was out of a box
Speaker 1: line that we me and my dad and Dan Belt
Speaker 1: and same thing on the power line. Uh they had
Speaker 1: just clear cut the field down there. I just took
Speaker 1: the pines out and uh yeah, I shot a dough
Speaker 1: in my dad's lap and then fast forward. Gosh, let's
Speaker 1: say I'm thirty five. That was when I was aired
Speaker 1: Fast forward twenty seven, twenty eight years thirty five. A
Speaker 1: day though, me and my dad hunted that same box
Speaker 1: line and shot two of the biggest deer out of
Speaker 1: it fifteen minutes apart. Same thing, and you can't beat
Speaker 1: that much.
Speaker 2: I killed my first year out of that blind yeah
Speaker 2: a point you remember I looked like Darth Brooks that
Speaker 2: heads up? Did you have a lapel long? You don't remember?
Speaker 2: We had? Our dad used to love He was kind
Speaker 2: of I mean, thinking back on it, he was kind
Speaker 2: of obsessed with radios, like the community, because we always
Speaker 2: had a million different times because you know, they wouldn't
Speaker 2: work or someon would work better.
Speaker 1: Well understanding it now, Dad even to go hunting, he
Speaker 1: had to take us because Mom wasn't gonna be sitting
Speaker 1: at home before kids while he was out hunting. So
Speaker 1: he would he built two box lines and he would
Speaker 1: drive us in there, put Danny one, put me in
Speaker 1: the other.
Speaker 2: They were in with within c distance. Ya, it was
Speaker 2: still probably three four hundred or we.
Speaker 1: Probably couldn't shoot the same deer, but but yeah we could.
Speaker 1: We throw We'd throw an orange vest out the window
Speaker 1: and that was, hey, you.
Speaker 2: Picked the turn. He walked talking on this time he
Speaker 2: looked up the pala line and there was orange vest
Speaker 2: hanging out. You're like, what's up?
Speaker 1: You see something?
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's one between me and the pine trees sticking
Speaker 2: was like, there's eight hundred poe trees, dude, which what
Speaker 2: are you talking about?
Speaker 1: But Dad would walk those ridges and he would have
Speaker 1: his he would have his radio on and just listen
Speaker 1: to us.
Speaker 2: Jabber awesome all day long. I wonder if we ever
Speaker 2: talked to the trash on there, like about we were
Speaker 2: ten years old. I don't think how to talk trash
Speaker 2: can't stand your dad thirteen.
Speaker 1: I think it was like, hey, dude, you got any
Speaker 1: snacks I can come get?
Speaker 2: So we got a little bit. I had this Garth
Speaker 2: Brooks lapel Mic that came around, you know, and then
Speaker 2: I remember the deer I shot, looking back on it,
Speaker 2: and I spawned him. But I was so excited. It's
Speaker 2: a big eight point. He's three and a half years old,
Speaker 2: four and a half years old. It was the first
Speaker 2: like good deer I'd ever shot.
Speaker 1: I remember that day.
Speaker 2: I do too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, walking and finding, it's what I remember.
Speaker 2: They say, it was like, man, you like carthros up there.
Speaker 2: My hands all messed up going around. I was trying
Speaker 2: to get to that deer, you know, like.
Speaker 1: That's the only guy I ever knew. Whirl of pal.
Speaker 1: So you grew up hunting, Yeah, playing some ball and now,
Speaker 1: I mean that's as far back as you can remember.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's all I did. I mean when I was younger.
Speaker 3: My daddy was a high school coach. So baseball coach,
Speaker 3: football coach. He was a head football coach. And uh so,
Speaker 3: I mean we love we love playing ball. I mean
Speaker 3: me and my daddy. You know, I can't count how
Speaker 3: many hours were spent in the yard. Yeah, throwing footballs
Speaker 3: or baseballs or whatever.
Speaker 2: Same. That's exactly how we came up. All we did
Speaker 2: was baseball, football, basketball, and hunt fish.
Speaker 3: That's all we did, and my daddy started. My first
Speaker 3: year I played football little league. We were a pretty
Speaker 3: good team and we lost a few games. My dad
Speaker 3: didn't coach me. The next year he coached us and
Speaker 3: literally from uh i'd say, from ten years maybe nine,
Speaker 3: nine year old football all the way till I finished
Speaker 3: playing youth football, which was around what twelve or thirteen,
Speaker 3: we never lost a game. That's the only game we
Speaker 3: didn't win is the first game he coached us, we tied,
Speaker 3: and after that we never lost another game. It was crazy,
Speaker 3: crazy running. We were down in Valdosta, Georgia. We're kind
Speaker 3: of where football is king. You know, you can't even
Speaker 3: get the country club if you don't play football.
Speaker 2: And you know, but uh was.
Speaker 1: He still coaching high school?
Speaker 3: No by that time, well, shortly he got he got
Speaker 3: into the insurance business after that, so I think then
Speaker 3: he was an insurance setsman. But he was, you know,
Speaker 3: it'ching that love for football by coaching little league and
Speaker 3: he took it serious.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know he was.
Speaker 3: There's kids, Uh, there's kids today that you know that
Speaker 3: that loved my dad for just for what he did
Speaker 3: for him and as a little league coach, you know,
Speaker 3: I mean we're pretty the league where I played in Valdosta,
Speaker 3: a lot of pretty poor kids down there. Yeah, so
Speaker 3: there's kids that I run into. I mean last year
Speaker 3: there's a kid that not a kid anymore, but he
Speaker 3: told me He's like, Man, I never told you this,
Speaker 3: but manam daddy used to give me money all the time.
Speaker 2: Really, that's so cool.
Speaker 3: I never knew that.
Speaker 2: That's awesome.
Speaker 1: It's probably the same that that same feeling that you
Speaker 1: were talking about earlier about hunting getting kids into it.
Speaker 1: There ain't nothing better than seeing those kids fall in
Speaker 1: love with out do. It's probably the same thing.
Speaker 2: For your dad.
Speaker 1: Yeah, football and introducing kids to sports and seeing how
Speaker 1: that kind of turns them into you know, that's a
Speaker 1: big part of your childhood, man. And learning how to
Speaker 1: be disciplined and learning how to be uh competitive and
Speaker 1: loyal to a teammate. Man, that's those are big you
Speaker 1: know characteristics.
Speaker 2: Bro. I'm forty years old, and I can remember the
Speaker 2: feeling I had when dust and Blackwater walked Clint Crumwell
Speaker 2: to throw to me and then I I bounced this
Speaker 2: off the field. Yeah, in one game. I remember that feeling.
Speaker 2: Due I was nine, are ten years old? I know
Speaker 2: it was on that second field over there in the complex,
Speaker 2: I know right where it was.
Speaker 1: Due those are your World Series back then?
Speaker 2: Man? Speaking of World Series, great said, way, I didn't
Speaker 2: know you went to it. Yeah, nineteen ninety How did that?
Speaker 2: How does that even work? I mean, how does that
Speaker 2: even work? Did y'all win?
Speaker 3: No, we didn't win.
Speaker 2: Oh? Sorry I brought it up.
Speaker 3: No, I mean it's I mean just to be there,
Speaker 3: you know. I mean, yeah, So I played at Georgia
Speaker 3: Southern Baseball Baseball, Yeah, and we were just really back then.
Speaker 3: Georgia Southern is a good team. Now, back then we
Speaker 3: were a really good team also, and we we just
Speaker 3: had a team that at the time we didn't know it.
Speaker 2: But what resis? I played first base and left field.
Speaker 3: But the time, we you know, we had a team
Speaker 3: that would eventually produce a bunch of big league players.
Speaker 3: At the time, you didn't know it. Just buddies, you know, teammates. Wow,
Speaker 3: we didn't know that. You know, three or four of
Speaker 3: us right here fixed to make it to the big leagues.
Speaker 2: You know who was it? Do you remember?
Speaker 3: Yeah? My one of my high school best friends in
Speaker 3: college best friends gamed Todd Green laid eleven years in
Speaker 3: the major leagues. Joey Hamilton was our number one picture.
Speaker 3: He was throwing I mean he was throwing ninety eight
Speaker 3: back and then in the night, you know, in nineteen
Speaker 3: ninety and all my.
Speaker 1: When Randy Johns, when Randy Johnson was the only one.
Speaker 3: That was Yeah, that was back when nobody was throwing
Speaker 3: ninety eight. Know, so he was our number one picture.
Speaker 3: He was the first round pick. He played ten years
Speaker 3: in the pros, in the big in the Big leagues,
Speaker 3: and our shortstop was named Chris Peterson. He he played
Speaker 3: kind of up and down in the Big leagues. He
Speaker 3: was never he never stuck around for a long time,
Speaker 3: but he was kind of he was one of those guys.
Speaker 2: He was really good.
Speaker 1: When did you know in that ball club that you
Speaker 1: were like, hey man, we're pretty dang good man.
Speaker 3: Crazy story, but true story. So we're, uh, we're me
Speaker 3: and my roommates. Before the season started. We're sitting in
Speaker 3: my kitchen table. So I used to me and Rhet
Speaker 3: started this back when we were young. We you know,
Speaker 3: it was a little cassette players. So we just hit
Speaker 3: record and save stupid stuff.
Speaker 2: You know. By the way, Rhett, in case of the
Speaker 2: listener doesn't know is one of of all of our
Speaker 2: well sort of Ben's best buddies. We know him. He's
Speaker 2: a he's a songwriter too. The Hall of Famer now, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: just last year. That's awesome.
Speaker 1: We'll get into it. We'll get sorry, that's who Red is.
Speaker 2: Go ahead.
Speaker 3: So I pulled this tape recorder out sitting at the
Speaker 3: table with a couple of baseball buddies, and I just
Speaker 3: start talking and I'm like, I don't remember exactly what
Speaker 3: I said, but I was actually saying, welcome to the
Speaker 3: nineteen ninety College World Series. Come on, Georgia Southern taking on.
Speaker 3: I don't know who I said, Yeah, and uh, I
Speaker 3: kept that recording. I don't know where it is now,
Speaker 3: but I actually said that before that before the season started.
Speaker 3: That's cool, and we actually ended up getting there was
Speaker 3: absolutely crazy.
Speaker 2: Who play? Who'd you play?
Speaker 1: In the series?
Speaker 3: We played Stamford in Game one and we got beat
Speaker 3: on a terrible, terrible call.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's actually good to YouTube and see it.
Speaker 3: It's kind of crazy, but really, yeah, one of our
Speaker 3: guys hits the ball off the second wall, the home
Speaker 3: over the home run wall, off the back wall, and
Speaker 3: it comes back into play and their center fielder named
Speaker 3: Jeffrey Hammond's plays it like it hit the first wall.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we.
Speaker 3: Lost by a run that would have been a two
Speaker 3: run home run. You got one hundred and fifty Empires
Speaker 3: out there get together and didn't see it somehow. And
Speaker 3: on ESPN, they're circling where the ball hit.
Speaker 1: You know, ain't no replay back then either, no replace
Speaker 1: the replay. Now on college, yeah, everything's got replayed.
Speaker 3: Now they're circling where the ball hit and it shows
Speaker 3: the ball went over over the fence.
Speaker 2: But they missed that one.
Speaker 3: Brutal But anyway, Yeah, sports is always a huge part man, football, baseball, basketball, whatever.
Speaker 2: I mean.
Speaker 3: I just I loved it and I love I also
Speaker 3: like writing songs at the early age, so I mean,
Speaker 3: I remember being literally eight nine years old just writing
Speaker 3: little kids songs.
Speaker 2: Why so everybody asked me when you start writing, I'm like,
Speaker 2: as soon as I remember being able to do it.
Speaker 2: But mine was in the form of like, you know, dude,
Speaker 2: you went through the same thing. If you're playing sports
Speaker 2: and you're like writing songs, you don't want to be
Speaker 2: the the big first baseman. That's like pouring out his
Speaker 2: heart on the paper. It's a weird dynamic to try
Speaker 2: to to manage, right because you're going, yes, I'm creative,
Speaker 2: but I'm also a sports guy. And then back in
Speaker 2: small towns, those two dudes rarely are the same guy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we luckily I had at an early age, I
Speaker 3: had Rhett who so we kind of found out that
Speaker 3: we both love music.
Speaker 2: I didn't know he was writing songs jamming back in
Speaker 2: the day.
Speaker 3: Man, we were listening to everything from Hank Junior to
Speaker 3: run DMC to ll cool Ja to George Strait whatever.
Speaker 3: We listened to everything that was in a kiss and
Speaker 3: all that. I really didn't get in all that stuff
Speaker 3: a whole lot, but he did.
Speaker 2: So we just leave usually.
Speaker 3: But when we got together, you know, when we picked
Speaker 3: up a guitar. I didn't even play guitar, so Rhett
Speaker 3: did back you know, that early age. So we just
Speaker 3: sit around and sing Hank Jr. We got videos of
Speaker 3: us sitting sitting around, you know, singing Hank Jr.
Speaker 2: Yeah, videos right now?
Speaker 1: Yeahs Where did that Where did that love of that music?
Speaker 3: Where did love music period come from? I mean, I
Speaker 3: think I know where mine came from. It's like, you know,
Speaker 3: everybody in my family loved music. My uncle is the
Speaker 3: only person that really playing bands and played music. But
Speaker 3: you know, if I was in the car my mom,
Speaker 3: I was listening to you know, Beach Boys or fifties music.
Speaker 3: If I was in the car my dad, I was
Speaker 3: listening to Otis Redding and Al Green. If I was
Speaker 3: at my grandparents house, you know, one of them be
Speaker 3: playing Dolly Parton. Go to other house they got Johnny
Speaker 3: Cash playing, or my mom loved Elvis. I was just
Speaker 3: surrounded by all kinds.
Speaker 2: Of music, so different music too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that helped me. You know, as far
Speaker 3: as my career is gone, I've had you know, I've
Speaker 3: been fortunate enough to have success on all kinds of artists,
Speaker 3: you know. I mean they're all country, but you know,
Speaker 3: this might be a pop country guy, this might be
Speaker 3: dirt country over here. So I think my love just
Speaker 3: being surrounded by all kinds of music, it made me
Speaker 3: love music, you know, And obviously I love country more
Speaker 3: than anything, but I still like all kinds of music.
Speaker 1: Man, which seems to be like a thing in town too,
Speaker 1: Like that stick around power is if you can kind
Speaker 1: of mold with with the genre as it molds and
Speaker 1: kind of do that different stuff, whether it's write super
Speaker 1: country songs for a little bitter pop country songs or
Speaker 1: maybe a rap country song or whatever. Yeah, R and B.
Speaker 1: If you can, just if you can kind of stay
Speaker 1: with the times and be able to kind of do
Speaker 1: all that. I say, the same thing, man, I would
Speaker 1: drive I would ride the church with my dad and
Speaker 1: we'd be listening to gospel music or sometimes he put
Speaker 1: on the Doobie Brothers Yea and Dan would drive me
Speaker 1: to school or my sity and we'd be listening to
Speaker 1: country and Garth and Joe Diffy and then my sister
Speaker 1: would be listening to Black Street and Genuine and.
Speaker 2: All that stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So, I mean, and we live in Savannah, Tennessee.
Speaker 1: Where you got the show Close, you got Memphis right there,
Speaker 1: you got Nashville. So it's kind of just a big
Speaker 1: pot of you know, mixing pot of different styles of music.
Speaker 2: Y'all had to like some Percy Sledge and stuff all loved.
Speaker 2: My dad loves Percy Sledge. That was his, that's in
Speaker 2: his wheel house. I mean, I know some of that stuff.
Speaker 2: And when a Man Loves a Woman might be the
Speaker 2: greatest song ever written. That's an interesting question we should
Speaker 2: probably bring on what with Riders? What do you think is? What?
Speaker 2: Would you argue the best song ever written would be
Speaker 2: what was Your? What was Your? That was a good one.
Speaker 3: When a man loves the woman's got to be I mean,
Speaker 3: sleep out in the Point Rain turn his back on
Speaker 3: his best friend. A man loves a woman, come anything.
Speaker 2: I think I would go just immediately popping in my head.
Speaker 2: It's like, I can't make you love me? Man? That
Speaker 2: was a I can't be old habit Shank Jr. Solid dude, yeah, solid?
Speaker 2: You know what hate Junior song? I love the.
Speaker 1: Country Boy can't survive? Wrong with any of those?
Speaker 2: Was it habits? The habit? They found? No lives every yet?
Speaker 2: Do I know?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 2: I know Lifesaver. He's the only one that could do it. Though,
Speaker 2: he's the only one that could do You can't hear
Speaker 2: gardb books talking about no life Savers like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's good. I used life Saver to help me get
Speaker 2: off cigarettes. For your love, I a Lifesaver yet, yeah,
Speaker 2: come on?
Speaker 1: So it was kind of it was those songs you
Speaker 1: were you were kind of growing up, yeah, and were
Speaker 1: you trying to We were like, man, I want to
Speaker 1: I want to write like that, or you just you
Speaker 1: just thinking, man, I just want to I just want
Speaker 1: to put pined paper and see.
Speaker 2: What did you even know? I mean, for us, you
Speaker 2: didn't even know songwriting was a career. I didn't know
Speaker 2: you could do that.
Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, I mean I remember thinking in
Speaker 3: high school that I want to go to Nashville one day,
Speaker 3: and I didn't know what to do when I got here.
Speaker 3: I just knew that I like country music and I
Speaker 3: want to be a part of it. And in my mind,
Speaker 3: Nashville is where you got to do that.
Speaker 2: That's true?
Speaker 1: Was that more of a Were you thinking more about
Speaker 1: Nashville than you were playing in professional.
Speaker 3: Ball man tours when I you know, I think when
Speaker 3: I first got to college, I probably was still had
Speaker 3: that dream. I know, I know it did playing professional baseball.
Speaker 3: And it's like, man, you get there and you see
Speaker 3: so when you're playing college baseball, a lot of ex
Speaker 3: college baseball players who current pro players, they come back
Speaker 3: and work out with you, you know, at their own motors.
Speaker 3: And I'm seeing guys that are thirty years old that
Speaker 3: are in double A and thirty old, you know, thirty one,
Speaker 3: thirty two years old, still in Double A that are
Speaker 3: better than me. I'm thinking, I don't, you know, I
Speaker 3: just I don't want to be thirty thirty two years
Speaker 3: old one day still trying to play professional baseball. And
Speaker 3: I probably it's not going to happen because that guy
Speaker 3: right there is a lot better than I am.
Speaker 2: I see that already.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: But another thing too, towards the end of my career,
Speaker 3: had already ret moved to Nashville. So Rett moved here
Speaker 3: in like ninety one or ninety two, and I was
Speaker 3: in college. But he'd come down to Georgia Southern where
Speaker 3: I was at, and he'd bring all these demos of
Speaker 3: songs you know, he'd written and mode and to me,
Speaker 3: I never heard it. I mean, it sounds like what
Speaker 3: you hear on the radio, sure, except Rhet singing them
Speaker 3: and he wrote them. So that's what that fired me up.
Speaker 3: I'm like, yes, cool, you know, looking back, man, I
Speaker 3: mean when I when I graduated college, I had opportunities
Speaker 3: to be a be a football coach. I had actually
Speaker 3: had head coach jobs, head coaching jobs that I turned down,
Speaker 3: And I don't know that I would have turned them
Speaker 3: down if Rhet hadn't already been here. Man, I think
Speaker 3: Rahtt making that move here and him playing me these
Speaker 3: songs and fire me up. That just made my decision
Speaker 3: to move to Nashville a lot easier.
Speaker 2: Singleton. Singleton was that for me. I mean, he was
Speaker 2: our buddy. He had a band. My band was like
Speaker 2: his baby brother band. And then man, he was coming
Speaker 2: up here and writing songs. We were hearing demo, same
Speaker 2: thing songs. Yeah, I can still remember and just be like, wait, man,
Speaker 2: you can do this, Like you can go and sit
Speaker 2: in a room and create something and then go cut
Speaker 2: that thing and then you're thinking it just it almost
Speaker 2: feels like the major leagues do. It's like, what is
Speaker 2: the word intangible? There's no way, There's no way that
Speaker 2: could ever happened for.
Speaker 3: Me, right man, I mean my goal, I mean my goal.
Speaker 3: My expectations when I moved here were so small. So
Speaker 3: when I moved here, it's a lot different. So I
Speaker 3: moved here. It was cassette tape.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: I moved here, and I moved to the end of
Speaker 3: ninety four Stavid writ for a little while, found an
Speaker 3: apartment and went back home, loaded up at U haul
Speaker 3: and came back. And my I mean honestly, my expectation.
Speaker 3: If I can somehow, some way walk into Walmart one
Speaker 3: day and look at the back of a cassette tape
Speaker 3: and see a song I wrote, I made it, and
Speaker 3: I'll go back home and I'll coach football rest of
Speaker 3: my life.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you thought it was ten billion dollars if
Speaker 2: you did.
Speaker 3: That, Oh well back then it was I didn't even care.
Speaker 3: I'm like, man, that's just making it to me.
Speaker 2: Sure I made it.
Speaker 3: If I can see my name on the back of
Speaker 3: a cassette.
Speaker 2: Tape one day, that's pretty cool, you know.
Speaker 3: And then you get that that happens, and then it's
Speaker 3: like it's like golf, man, ain't no doubt. It's like
Speaker 3: you hit that one good shot to keep you coming back.
Speaker 1: Ain't no doubt.
Speaker 2: You get that up like, oh I can do this, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I can do this.
Speaker 3: Then you you know I had I had some early
Speaker 3: success as far as cuts.
Speaker 2: When I first moved here. What was your first cut?
Speaker 3: Remember first couple trace Akins. It was my first cut,
Speaker 3: didn't make the record. So I learned early on, you know,
Speaker 3: about Nashville. And then I got a black Hawk cut
Speaker 3: after that that didn't make the record.
Speaker 2: That was my first one that made the record.
Speaker 3: And then uh after that, I'd get I'd get a
Speaker 3: few here and there, but I just you know, you
Speaker 3: weren't getting wasn't having the hits, but.
Speaker 2: It was keeping you around. It was kicking you around.
Speaker 3: But I meant the same time, I'm real close to
Speaker 3: my family, So there was a lot of years went by.
Speaker 3: I'm like, man, what am I doing? You know, I'm
Speaker 3: here doing this. Yeah, I mean in my mind, I'm like,
Speaker 3: even if I even if I make even if I
Speaker 3: have a little success, Man, how long is this going
Speaker 3: to last?
Speaker 2: Totally?
Speaker 3: You know, am I gonna am? I gonna raise my
Speaker 3: kids up here in Nashville, Tennessee, away from my family.
Speaker 3: My parents were getting older and just one day eventually
Speaker 3: go back and then all those years are lost.
Speaker 1: You're preaching right now, those early years that you were
Speaker 1: in town, trying to get cuts and trying to get
Speaker 1: your feet off the ground. Were you strictly right with
Speaker 1: Red and Red getting you in the doors or where
Speaker 1: you were you doing?
Speaker 3: The mame Red was when I first moved here. Red
Speaker 3: was so bit he had a record deal.
Speaker 2: He was popping right there. Yeah, he was just coming truck.
Speaker 3: Yeah, ninety five ninety five. So yeah, Red was on man,
Speaker 3: he was gone. So I didn't really you know Red,
Speaker 3: not that he hadn't introduced me to I mean, I've
Speaker 3: met a few people Red.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, we know that road, that's what singed.
Speaker 3: He was already gone, So I didn't really there was
Speaker 3: As far as writers go, I don't know that I
Speaker 3: ever met it, right, I don't think that I met
Speaker 3: a writer through Ret that I ended up writing with.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: It was just, you know, I was just kind of
Speaker 3: was on my own ground, just grinding up here every day,
Speaker 3: meeting people writing.
Speaker 2: And uh.
Speaker 3: I was working another job too. Even when I got
Speaker 3: my first writing deal, I was I had this dagum job.
Speaker 3: I was selling ball caps and T shirts over the
Speaker 3: phone and uh and uh and I was in the
Speaker 3: crazy here's a crazy thing.
Speaker 2: That's a braves cat.
Speaker 3: We were selling the bills Baiting Tackle shop out of
Speaker 3: Oklahoma and just what any small company you can think of,
Speaker 3: Bob's Body Shop. We just cold calling every day all
Speaker 3: over the country trying to But here's the thing is,
Speaker 3: if you own a company in America, most time you
Speaker 3: have a ball cap for your company. So we're calling
Speaker 3: about something they're probably gonna use anyway. But I happened
Speaker 3: to be really good at it. So they had a
Speaker 3: they had I'm very competitive, So they had a they
Speaker 3: had a sales board and it showed top salesman another
Speaker 3: week every week.
Speaker 2: So you go driving to a place in Cold Calling.
Speaker 3: From that point, you get there at seven o'clock in
Speaker 3: the morning, and I would do that intil one and
Speaker 3: I'd leave there and go write it to whoever would
Speaker 3: started two o'clock.
Speaker 1: That's crazy. Would Yeah, I was on the bridge.
Speaker 2: You so my name.
Speaker 3: So if I if my name went on top of
Speaker 3: that board every week, I was, I mean, I was upset,
Speaker 3: man so and it was so because of that, I
Speaker 3: was also started making decent money, okay, And then I
Speaker 3: finally he hit me. I'm like, man, I'm making I'm
Speaker 3: making this guy over here a lot of money. I'm selling.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm selling a boatload of balls every week.
Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, I mean this guy that I
Speaker 3: mean employ they can't print on fast enough. And so
Speaker 3: I finally I just left and I started my own company.
Speaker 3: I took a guy with me to run the company
Speaker 3: for me.
Speaker 1: And uh, why are you trying to write songs? Right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So a lot of people don't know this story
Speaker 3: is crazy. But the reason, one of the main reasons
Speaker 3: there was so much time in between me moving here
Speaker 3: and have been successful was this company that I started.
Speaker 2: So we had like I ended up getting on my mind, Superior.
Speaker 3: Sports where so we had like fourteen I got fourteen
Speaker 3: employees and we started. You know, my daddy had retired
Speaker 3: from fourteen. Yeah, my daddy retired from insurance business in Georgia.
Speaker 3: He doesn't he's done really good and his you know,
Speaker 3: but he's retired, and so I hired him. He started
Speaker 3: selling from Georgia. So my dad's first year entrepreneurs the
Speaker 3: dad made eighty five thousand dollars selling ball caps from home.
Speaker 3: He's like, man, I didn't know if I could sit
Speaker 3: in my chair all day and sell, and he did.
Speaker 3: He was sitting as a decliner and call people all day.
Speaker 1: Did you ever think, well, I mean, you were getting
Speaker 1: songs cut. Did you Did you ever think, like, man,
Speaker 1: I just I just still sell ball casts for the rest.
Speaker 2: Of my life.
Speaker 3: Well, it was just it was hard to find figured
Speaker 3: out I I got. I had this company, had an office,
Speaker 3: had man had everything?
Speaker 2: Where was the office?
Speaker 3: It was off Spence Lane.
Speaker 2: Dude, I had no idea.
Speaker 3: So anyway, but what I found out because I was,
Speaker 3: you know, I'm competitive, and I'm I mean, I won't
Speaker 3: you know, I don't expect people to be just work hardue.
Speaker 3: So when I was at the office, the company was rolling.
Speaker 3: When I would leave to go write a song, it
Speaker 3: was like, man, things now, yeah, and less time i'd
Speaker 3: spend there, the company would do less, you know. So
Speaker 3: I started spending more and more time there and I'd
Speaker 3: write song as much as I can. So this went
Speaker 3: on for this went on for like eight years, dude.
Speaker 3: So though I guess two thousand and eight. So I
Speaker 3: started that company in nineteen ninety nine. In two thousand
Speaker 3: and eight, Rusty called me or two thousand and seven,
Speaker 3: one or two, and he said, he just said, Man,
Speaker 3: I'm starting this new company call this Music, and I
Speaker 3: want you to be the first writer I signed, he said.
Speaker 3: But here's the condition. Rusty really believed in me. He said,
Speaker 3: I think you're one of the best writers in town.
Speaker 3: He said, but you've never give it right in one
Speaker 3: hundred percent, which he was right. I never had, you know, I'd.
Speaker 2: Give him all cast.
Speaker 3: So and uh, He's like I need you to give
Speaker 3: it one hundred percent of your time, just for the
Speaker 3: first time in your life. And this is true story.
Speaker 3: And he said, man, if you do that, I will
Speaker 3: promise you you will be songwriter of the Year. And
Speaker 3: three years after that conversation, I was Songwriter the Year.
Speaker 2: Wow man.
Speaker 3: And four years after that conversation, I did, I was
Speaker 3: at again, that's so cool. But that was you know,
Speaker 3: that's not that's more bragging on Rusty gas It is
Speaker 3: myself back in the days, you know, when you have
Speaker 3: when pluggers just got after it.
Speaker 1: I was about to say, that's kind of matching. I mean,
Speaker 1: because Rusty is one of the best in the game.
Speaker 2: He's the best there.
Speaker 1: So that's matching work ethics and him believing in you
Speaker 1: and you you, you know, stepping up to the play.
Speaker 3: Like I said, when I say I'm not bragging on,
Speaker 3: I'm still writing the same songs now I was then.
Speaker 3: I never pitched a song, yeah, I mean I never
Speaker 3: pitched a song. I mean I had a lot of
Speaker 3: good buddies recording songs, and I never sent a song
Speaker 3: to anybody.
Speaker 2: I didn't have to have to.
Speaker 3: No, I had Rusty Gaston, yeah, and he was you
Speaker 3: know that's a difference. That was a difference maker right there, sure,
Speaker 3: because he was a heck of a salesman and everybody
Speaker 3: respected him. And you know, I think everybody knew if
Speaker 3: he's sending me this, this song must be good.
Speaker 2: So you're at this music at that point. Tell me
Speaker 2: the origin of the peach Picker beginning, and then we'll
Speaker 2: brag on how a decade of music.
Speaker 3: Well, so me and Red obviously you know our relationship, sure,
Speaker 3: and so I was also so I guess two thousand
Speaker 3: and eight, I was writing with Rhett, and I was
Speaker 3: writing with Dallas, but not together, and Rhett was right
Speaker 3: with me and right with Dallas. Same thing for all
Speaker 3: three of us. We just weren't writing as a three.
Speaker 3: We weren't getting together.
Speaker 1: As three of us who went to college together.
Speaker 3: Dallas and Luke went to college together.
Speaker 2: Ah, yeah, at.
Speaker 3: Georgia, not Georgia Southern. Okay, Okay, yet Georgia southn We
Speaker 3: all went Georgia Southern. Coach s One Dale went there too. Sure,
Speaker 3: So anyway we were, we were kind of writing around
Speaker 3: each other, and one day Rusty, I guess he booked us.
Speaker 3: He said, you y'all, y'all three. We're all you know,
Speaker 3: he was liking everything we were writing. He said, I
Speaker 3: shall try this together one day, and it was on
Speaker 3: a Wednesday. It just happened to be on Wednesday. So, uh,
Speaker 3: we wrote a few songs. We just had a good time.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: We you know, we're all Georgia bulldof fans.
Speaker 2: So we get in the room.
Speaker 3: We talked Georgia football, we talked where all we loved,
Speaker 3: you know, being in the woods, we love fishing. We
Speaker 3: just had a lot in common. We all come from
Speaker 3: basically the same place. And uh, you know I can
Speaker 3: say something to those guys that they would get that
Speaker 3: a lot of people wouldn't get the same thing. We
Speaker 3: get each other, you know. So we just start writing
Speaker 3: on Wednesdays.
Speaker 1: Every every Wednesday.
Speaker 3: Well we wrote that first Wednesday, We're like, hey, let's
Speaker 3: do it again. Let's do it again next Wednesday. Before
Speaker 3: we know it, let's do it again. So we kind
Speaker 3: of booked this is going to be our day.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 3: We're just having fun writing songs. And the reason we
Speaker 3: were having fun. You know, I even forget this sometimes today,
Speaker 3: but Rett and Dallas will tell you it's like, man,
Speaker 3: we didn't care what was on the radio. We just
Speaker 3: didn't care. We didn't chase anything. We we we basically
Speaker 3: wanted to write.
Speaker 2: What we love.
Speaker 3: And our motto was, if we can put this in
Speaker 3: our CD player at the time when we leave here
Speaker 3: or we get the demo back, and we love it,
Speaker 3: there's a good chance Smile's gonna love it too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 3: How many times as writers do we write something we
Speaker 3: don't even love it?
Speaker 2: Man? You know?
Speaker 3: So, I mean that we were just prime examples of
Speaker 3: write something that you love. Don't worry about what's on
Speaker 3: the radio, because what we were doing was not on
Speaker 3: the radio. Was it just wasn't It wasn't on the radio.
Speaker 3: And then it was you know, we wrote.
Speaker 2: Every on the radio.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we had you know, we had a few before,
Speaker 3: we had a few hits before we were called the
Speaker 3: peach Pickers. You know, we had I think we had
Speaker 3: one or two.
Speaker 2: Was first.
Speaker 3: The first one was put a Girl in It by
Speaker 3: Brooks and Dough and then we had great Song.
Speaker 2: Then we had give Me That Girl Joe Nichols. That's
Speaker 2: my favorite Peach Pickers song. That's my favorite Peace.
Speaker 3: Per that's possibly mind too.
Speaker 1: Dude, d.
Speaker 2: One, dude, you' all just sat.
Speaker 3: On the cord story. So on that day, so we're
Speaker 3: we're sitting in there and we're struggling to come up
Speaker 3: with something, and it's lunchtime. We're like, let's go out
Speaker 3: in the truck and listen, just listen to music. So
Speaker 3: we go out in Dallas' truck and we put on
Speaker 3: John Mayer. Okay, now this song doesn't come out sound
Speaker 3: anything like John Mayer, but we were listening to John
Speaker 3: Mayers songs we were like just getting inspired by, and
Speaker 3: we literally said, let's go on ahead and write something.
Speaker 3: John Mayrish that one day. I remember us saying, let's
Speaker 3: chase something.
Speaker 2: I would have never put those two things.
Speaker 3: It didn't come out that way. You know, it came
Speaker 3: out Give me that girl for whatever reason.
Speaker 2: God, such a jam, dude. I mean, I can remember
Speaker 2: when was that would have been like old, yeah, that
Speaker 2: would have been. I was in college and that thing
Speaker 2: popped out and I could hear the intro in my
Speaker 2: head that, yeah, just hanging on that.
Speaker 1: You weren't in college and testing ten. I was in
Speaker 1: college in testing tent.
Speaker 2: I mean I might have still have been. I didn't
Speaker 2: move up here till eleven. Really Yeah, anyway, okay, fresh
Speaker 2: out of college whatever. I can remember jamming that tune
Speaker 2: and just being like, man, what is this sound? And
Speaker 2: then I feel like, I feel like that's a great
Speaker 2: like roots system sound wise for what y'all did over
Speaker 2: those next ten years.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so too, man.
Speaker 1: And I think it's interesting too, because like all those songs,
Speaker 1: you say that you were just having fun. All those
Speaker 1: tunes are fun. Yeah, and you can you can you
Speaker 1: say that and it makes sense in my brain. I
Speaker 1: can see y'all almost in that room doing what you
Speaker 1: did for so long, because you get that picture by
Speaker 1: listening to that song, like you get.
Speaker 2: Super strong personalities too. It's very different, Like you were
Speaker 2: very different from rhet. Rhet is very different from Dallas.
Speaker 2: You are very different from Dallas. It's like I could
Speaker 2: see the you can almost hear all of you in
Speaker 2: those tunes.
Speaker 3: And man, it was just the thing about it was
Speaker 3: the most laid back right.
Speaker 2: Of the week. That's fun too. You didn't you didn't even.
Speaker 3: Worry that that was the day you just wrote office
Speaker 3: And I'm not even worried about that day. That day
Speaker 3: is gonna take. I mean, we didn't have much time.
Speaker 3: Nobody had an idea.
Speaker 2: We just sat down.
Speaker 3: We and like I said, when the peach pickers thing
Speaker 3: came by accident, there's a We were doing an interview
Speaker 3: with Country Weekly back at that magazine, you remember.
Speaker 2: The Country Amazing.
Speaker 3: We were doing an interview and during the interview, RHTT
Speaker 3: called us the peach pickers, just kidding around and she laughed.
Speaker 3: She's like, yeah, we all from Georgia. We played guitar
Speaker 3: and that was the end of it. It wasn't like
Speaker 3: we didn't make it.
Speaker 2: We didn't.
Speaker 3: That wasn't our name. I was just HTT talking during
Speaker 3: the interview. And when the when the article came out,
Speaker 3: it said peach pickers strike again. Yeah, Colt Russy, yass
Speaker 3: see that.
Speaker 2: Yeah right.
Speaker 3: Now, let's have a party for the peach picker party.
Speaker 3: We're going to serve everybody peach ice cream, you know,
Speaker 3: peach cobbler actually is what he did.
Speaker 2: So tell I know that. I don't know if reading
Speaker 2: those that tell us about the peach picker parties.
Speaker 3: So we had a peach picker party, and uh it
Speaker 3: was just this is so get We had a Peach
Speaker 3: Picker c D and I had that.
Speaker 1: I remember that, Yeah.
Speaker 2: I remember the only way to get this CD was
Speaker 2: to come to the party.
Speaker 1: And it was y'all singing the songs that you would
Speaker 1: had been hitting hits right.
Speaker 2: No, they wan't. None of these songs I remember.
Speaker 1: I can hear Dallas singing some of them right now.
Speaker 3: It wasn't The songs weren't cut yet. But the only
Speaker 3: way to get one of these CDs the label was
Speaker 3: to come to the party. And there was no holes, genius,
Speaker 3: no holes. There was no holes. It's like whoever cuts
Speaker 3: them first gets them. And so I mean literally, I
Speaker 3: mean we didn't. I didn't know what expect Me and
Speaker 3: Dallas and Red. I remember us thinking, man, is it
Speaker 3: gonna show up this thing?
Speaker 2: Where was it a hat? It was a Warner?
Speaker 3: It was yeah, And I remember we were worried about
Speaker 3: it and we get there and all of a sudden, just.
Speaker 2: Like a songwriter be worried about it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, the labels come, the whole town came.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean, this was one of the It was like,
Speaker 3: imagine the biggest number one party you've ever seen.
Speaker 2: Did y'all play Did y'all play the song?
Speaker 3: No, we didn't play anything.
Speaker 2: You didn't play nothing. We didn't play anything. We just
Speaker 2: they served ice cream. We just shook hands and everybody
Speaker 2: got a c D. And then it was on.
Speaker 3: It's like, oh man, so and so is cutting this. No,
Speaker 3: I remember a song Barefoot and Crazy. It's like, I'm
Speaker 3: not gonna say the artists, but one artist wanted it
Speaker 3: and Scott worres.
Speaker 2: She had said, well, they have to beat us to
Speaker 2: it in the studio tomorrow. Is that Jack Jack Jack? Yeah?
Speaker 2: So he flipped type on.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so Scott was cutting on Jack Ingram before this
Speaker 3: other person coul Get in the studio.
Speaker 2: It was crazy, man, Yeah, that's wild.
Speaker 1: That's so for the next what when when did that
Speaker 1: Peach paper party happen?
Speaker 2: That was probably.
Speaker 1: Saying yeah, after that day, you never worried about another
Speaker 1: Peach bigger party again because for the next.
Speaker 3: No, we never had another one for ten years straight. Well,
Speaker 3: I mean we had the vibe kind of changed a
Speaker 3: lot through the years. Uh, you know, it's always every
Speaker 3: Wednesday we'd write, and then we all got kind of
Speaker 3: pretty busy, and it's just those Wednesday started turning into
Speaker 3: every other Wednesdare you know me and Rat still actually
Speaker 3: write every Wednesday.
Speaker 2: To this day? Really, wow, we still do it.
Speaker 3: You know, Dallas is running the publishing company. He's doing
Speaker 3: a lot of other stuff. Sure, it got harder for
Speaker 3: him to be there every single Wednesday, but there was
Speaker 3: times of funny stories about you know, like there was
Speaker 3: some there were some two ways written when when.
Speaker 2: Dallas is supposed to better we know, Dallas, he's fine.
Speaker 3: Well, I remember if you look back on the creation
Speaker 3: dates of Honeybee of Mind Reader, of when she says
Speaker 3: baby on one Farmer's and Farmer's Daughter.
Speaker 2: That's far off the top of my head.
Speaker 3: If you look at the creation dates on those, they're
Speaker 3: all written on a Wednesday. Wow, now Farmer's daughter. It
Speaker 3: ended up being a three way anyway because Dallas was
Speaker 3: on a hunt somewhere out somewhere and we get there
Speaker 3: and Marv Green got canceled. We're like, come on here
Speaker 3: with us, man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but the.
Speaker 3: Other three honey Bee, mind Reader, and when she says baby,
Speaker 3: that was that Dallas was on the book those days.
Speaker 2: And it wasn't there. He was.
Speaker 3: He had good excuses, you know, he was sure. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it was just laying around the bed. He was going
Speaker 3: doing stuff, going hunting whatever. But yeah, those those all
Speaker 3: those songs were written on Wednesdays.
Speaker 1: That's cool, man, Yeah, yeah, we've been we've literally been
Speaker 1: in deer camp with Dallas and Illinois and the first
Speaker 1: time we ever met him, and it was just us
Speaker 1: three in deer camp and we got done hunting that
Speaker 1: morning and Dallas like, let's go grab you know, some lunch,
Speaker 1: and we go off this little diner in this little
Speaker 1: small town in Illinois. And while we're sitting there at
Speaker 1: the diner, I mean, dude, it's it's what twenty seventeen,
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen. Yeah, it's just it's peach picker song after
Speaker 1: peach coming from the speaker little country. And we got
Speaker 1: done with the meal and the what are they called
Speaker 1: when they hang you the thing that to pay for
Speaker 1: the receipt? Yeah, yeah, not the receipt, but bill bill. Yeah, dude.
Speaker 1: They brought these three out and Dallas just scooped them
Speaker 1: all up. He was he was like I think I
Speaker 1: just He's like, I'll take care of y'all. He's like,
Speaker 1: I think I can pay for that.
Speaker 2: I can't remember which Randy Howser song was pretty much
Speaker 2: pay for all these will Moonlight? Yeah, yeah for this one.
Speaker 1: Just hit after hit after hit due.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fun, man, that had to be.
Speaker 3: That's always man, when you do that with your kind
Speaker 3: y'all doing the same thing, man, you know, yeah, in
Speaker 3: the middle of it, y'all on the same thing we
Speaker 3: were in the middle of you know, it's just having
Speaker 3: fun with your buddies and all. Y'all all got the
Speaker 3: same things in common, you you know, totally.
Speaker 2: It's awesome. Yeah, it's a pretty wild thing to be
Speaker 2: able to do that with your me and you got
Speaker 2: to do it last year and have a hit with
Speaker 2: lout together and man, it's uh, it's arguably the greatest
Speaker 2: feeling in the world. Man, to just be doing that
Speaker 2: with your pals.
Speaker 3: And I mean in the fact that we get to do
Speaker 3: that this period sure with anybody. I mean, we get
Speaker 3: to write songs for a living. Yeah, you know, it's
Speaker 3: I still feel guilty about that. I mean, I remember
Speaker 3: my daddy going to work every day, leaving the house
Speaker 3: at selling something every single day, you know. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: Granddaddy coming in and sweating from the farm. And we
Speaker 3: get to write songs. I mean, how do we get
Speaker 3: this lucky and blessed?
Speaker 1: Man, I've heard I've heard you say that before. It's
Speaker 1: like you still you've been doing this for how long now?
Speaker 2: I mean getting paid to do it. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 2: a Nashville. So it's ninety six.
Speaker 1: And you still I've heard you say you still love.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I love. There's very very few times
Speaker 3: that I dread getting up going to work. I mean,
Speaker 3: I don't like to drive. To drive sucks. It's getting
Speaker 3: worse and worse every year. But once I get here,
Speaker 3: I'm glad I'm here.
Speaker 2: Man, Yeah, I feel that way. You know.
Speaker 3: I love writing songs. I mean I'm gonna do They're
Speaker 3: gonna have you run me out of town. I mean,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna do this forever.
Speaker 2: Sure, man, maybe he's just head on out. There's some
Speaker 2: room for the next time.
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, my mind might change older I
Speaker 3: get but right now I'm saying, I mean I love.
Speaker 3: I love writing songs every day.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's awesome. So you just got done a farm tour.
Speaker 2: Give me a good old farm tour story. I know
Speaker 2: y'all got man, we can't tell them stories. I mean,
Speaker 2: we have a good time out there. I'll say that.
Speaker 3: You know the fact that three songwriters get to go
Speaker 3: out there and play for thirty thousand people.
Speaker 1: I was want to ask you about that. What's that like, dude?
Speaker 1: What's what's what's stepping out on state? What are y'all playing?
Speaker 1: Y'all playing songs from the past.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we just give our you just not play Luke
Speaker 2: Bryn songs.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well we kind of tease them a little bit.
Speaker 3: The ones we wrote. We can't play them because Luke's
Speaker 3: about to play them, right, That's what. So we'll tell
Speaker 3: the crowd that, like, hey, we wrote a few songs
Speaker 3: for Luke too. We can't play tonight because he's about
Speaker 3: to play. Yeah, And I just say, hey, Luke's back
Speaker 3: here listening to see what kind of crowd we got. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so let's give him a little sample of.
Speaker 2: What we got tonight.
Speaker 3: And it'll start out you got your hands up, and
Speaker 3: then thirty thousand people are saying.
Speaker 2: You ain't got the radio.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll be out there.
Speaker 2: I'm out there right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah too.
Speaker 3: But yeah, man, this ship, you know, we've been doing
Speaker 3: that for thirteen or fourteen years. I mean it's like
Speaker 3: and his fans, you know, kind of we have a
Speaker 3: good introduct somebody introduce us as you know, so they
Speaker 3: don't think we're a cover band.
Speaker 2: The introduce it. They don't think we're DJ rock.
Speaker 1: They would.
Speaker 3: I mean yeah, if somebody didn't tell it who we are.
Speaker 3: I mean, we're sitting here singing, you know, fourteen number
Speaker 3: one is they're gonna think, all right, these boys cover
Speaker 3: I mean, get off the stage.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: There have been there's been plenty of cover bands, I
Speaker 1: promise you across this country that have done that same
Speaker 1: set of y'all songs.
Speaker 3: That's true, So you know, but the fact the introduction
Speaker 3: really helps. I mean you think, oh yeah, it turns
Speaker 3: into a cool moment at a at a major concert,
Speaker 3: when you got the guys that wrote the songs actually
Speaker 3: on the stage, and when the thirty thousand people know
Speaker 3: who you are and know you wrote the songs, that
Speaker 3: they turn all of a sudden they know you're not
Speaker 3: a cover band. It gets a cool experience for them.
Speaker 2: Oh one thousand percent. I can see why.
Speaker 3: It's way more intimate, if you know, I think that
Speaker 3: should happened more. Be honest with you, I think, I mean,
Speaker 3: I mean we've even I mean the peach pickers up.
Speaker 3: We're asked Luke all the time, why are you not
Speaker 3: hiring us to be roping the band?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Sure, you know, yeah, I mean I don't want to
Speaker 3: do that. I don't want I wouldn't do it, but
Speaker 3: we're just kidding around. Yeah, but it is was a
Speaker 3: pretty high energy show, you know, with a full and.
Speaker 1: It's probably so much fun too.
Speaker 2: I mean, like, well they only do it two week right,
Speaker 2: y'all are on that two weeks, so that so you're
Speaker 2: not gone Like it wasn't like what I did this
Speaker 2: past year. It's like your only go, you got two weeks, cetera.
Speaker 2: You go, you rock those two weeks, then.
Speaker 3: You come home, Yeah, in your home rest of the year.
Speaker 2: Dude.
Speaker 1: I watched that video recently of of I don't know
Speaker 1: if you were recording or something was, but Luke gave
Speaker 1: Dallas that spit cup.
Speaker 2: And then they get that horn class man.
Speaker 1: But I tell you, man, it's in a weird way.
Speaker 1: It's it's inspiring to watch that as as like a
Speaker 1: young songwriter trying to break into that and and and
Speaker 1: see like, just dude, you were just enjoying y'all.
Speaker 2: Just enjoy life. Man. It's the same thing as snapping
Speaker 2: Luke's yesterday. It's not if we had a video and that'd.
Speaker 1: Be real funny, like it's it's it's it's a job.
Speaker 1: It is a songwriting and writing songs for a publish company,
Speaker 1: especially when you're getting paid to do it. You got
Speaker 1: to do it every day. It becomes it's a job.
Speaker 1: The pressure y'all kept the y'all kept the fun in it, man.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and and trying to keep the video camera roll
Speaker 3: and every now and then, Man, I telling that video
Speaker 3: you saw was actually the second time of the day.
Speaker 2: The first we missed it for really.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't get my family that man, that was
Speaker 3: the only Luke has a loud horn.
Speaker 2: Yeah that horn.
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm sure it is.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: But the first time we did it, Dallas was coming
Speaker 3: out of the store holding a case of water, and
Speaker 3: I didn't get my phone up in time. They hit
Speaker 3: the horn too early and he I mean literally the water,
Speaker 3: the whole case.
Speaker 2: Goes up, goes all over. He jump like that.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean you got it's a.
Speaker 2: Loud horn on the video train it is. Yeah.
Speaker 3: And so we missed that one. So this next one
Speaker 3: only happened like a couple of hours later.
Speaker 2: That Yeah, it's the funniest it is.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm gonna keep putting up everything, please.
Speaker 2: That's what I wrote on there, like this has to
Speaker 2: come up at least once a year. Every year for
Speaker 2: as long as this classic. I mean it is the
Speaker 2: way he's just holding the cup right with it kind
Speaker 2: of he just it's really funny.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, spin on my hands.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Uh, I'm gonna interrupt that thing that you were trying
Speaker 1: to say because it's the time of the show to
Speaker 1: do the one.
Speaker 2: God, Hey, you feel you feel about that?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 2: You like that? Week you make that? Still that did
Speaker 2: you make that? Just right then?
Speaker 3: I should have my recorder going, yeah you did?
Speaker 2: It was going all right?
Speaker 1: So this is the we're coming to the end, which
Speaker 1: I don't want to stand man, you just want to
Speaker 1: hang out.
Speaker 2: You ride with us today? Cancel right? Dan got canceled? Yeah,
Speaker 2: I got canceled. Man, want you all right?
Speaker 3: What you got? You got?
Speaker 2: Who you got today? Yeah?
Speaker 1: So this part of the show. Ben never been broke,
Speaker 1: Ben haslip, never been.
Speaker 2: That, never been broke.
Speaker 1: So this is this is called the one that got away.
Speaker 2: Which I can't call him anymore because he actually was
Speaker 2: broke for a while until he started his hat company.
Speaker 1: It could be it could be a twelve pound large
Speaker 1: mouth that you got to the boat and broke off
Speaker 1: the hook.
Speaker 2: It could be a David Nell single that you have
Speaker 2: that never made the.
Speaker 1: Record, no doubt when you didn't have two dollars in
Speaker 1: your bank.
Speaker 2: Account and they tell you that it is and they
Speaker 2: let you sing harmony on it. So here's story, right,
Speaker 2: We've got a store of y'all. It's a great story.
Speaker 2: Bring it. So I was.
Speaker 3: Probably about twenty years old back in Why did Georgia hunt? Right?
Speaker 3: All my family Georgia widely Georgia Wilde, All both sides
Speaker 3: of my family come from whyd to Georgia. It's a
Speaker 3: little town sixty miles from Augusta, Georgia. So, uh, I
Speaker 3: shoot the biggest buck I've ever shot in my ever
Speaker 3: in my whole life. And I mean we're hunting in
Speaker 3: kind of swampy.
Speaker 2: Area back there.
Speaker 1: Rifle bow mules was a rifle.
Speaker 3: It's about one hundred yards shot, found blood, tracked it,
Speaker 3: I mean forever. Just I mean, I was bound to
Speaker 3: try to find this dude. We hunted this deer. This
Speaker 3: was a morning I shot him in the morning. We
Speaker 3: hunted this sucker as long as you, I mean all
Speaker 3: day long. The biggest deer I was shot. Never found him,
Speaker 3: just never found the sucker.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: Well back then, a little history. So my neighbor to
Speaker 3: land next to ours. Next hours, hearst there was an
Speaker 3: older woman lived there. Old old woman. She had a grandson,
Speaker 3: you can say that. I make sure she had a grandson.
Speaker 3: She had a grandson that would come down from North
Speaker 3: Georgia and hunt on her land every year.
Speaker 2: No. So, uh, we.
Speaker 3: Didn't know the kid back then that well, but we
Speaker 3: didn't like him a whole lot because he was shooting anything.
Speaker 2: That walked, for sure, like that. He never liked neighbors.
Speaker 3: So fast forward, and that was that was probably night.
Speaker 3: That's about nineteen ninety probably when this happened.
Speaker 2: And I was two years old. How far are we
Speaker 2: fast forward?
Speaker 3: So we're going to fast forward to five years ago.
Speaker 2: Five years ago.
Speaker 3: Yeah, twenty eighteen and eight years so, I get a
Speaker 3: call from one of my one of my buddies down
Speaker 3: there in Jefferson County. He's like, man, you ain't gonna
Speaker 3: believe this. So that kid that lived that used to
Speaker 3: hunt there, he.
Speaker 2: Ended up moving to that town.
Speaker 3: Okay, you ain't gonna believe us. He said, you remember
Speaker 3: that kid used to come over there and hunt and
Speaker 3: so and so's land. I don't want to say her name.
Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, I remember him well. He said, you
Speaker 3: know he lives here. I said, yeah, I know.
Speaker 2: He moved down there.
Speaker 3: He said, man, he just told me yesterday to give
Speaker 3: you his number. He said that there you shot back
Speaker 3: in nineteen ninety. No way, he found it back then
Speaker 3: and got the sucker.
Speaker 2: Mounted there and got it mounted.
Speaker 3: It's in his house. It's in his house. And I
Speaker 3: ain't gonna tell you what I told him to tell.
Speaker 2: Him, but that deer is in his house right now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't. He Hey, come get it, he said,
Speaker 3: come get it if you want it.
Speaker 2: I don't get it.
Speaker 3: I ain't getting I was too mad.
Speaker 2: I was. I was so fired up.
Speaker 3: I mean that dude knew I was looking for that deer.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he knew.
Speaker 1: Dang, how do you do that?
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess thirty years later you go. You
Speaker 2: know what, man, I didn't kill that thing. And my
Speaker 2: neighbor being dead, and he could probably give me some
Speaker 2: Luke Brian tickets something.
Speaker 3: That's the reason I can't tell you what I tell him.
Speaker 2: Tell him.
Speaker 1: That's a good one, dude, That's that's similar. We had
Speaker 1: Josh Thompson on the other day and he said he
Speaker 1: told he said he shot a twenty three inch widespread.
Speaker 2: He said, public Land biggest eers.
Speaker 1: Every public Land dropped it, knew where it was, went
Speaker 1: back to get the truck, came back.
Speaker 3: Stole told it. It's always I would see that deer.
Speaker 3: I would like to see it.
Speaker 2: But I mean, how can we I feel like we
Speaker 2: need to rekindle this situation. This is what we did
Speaker 2: last time.
Speaker 1: I was like to give the guy's deer back, have it.
Speaker 2: I just don't. I don't want it. If it just
Speaker 2: if it just happened to be on your doorstep one day,
Speaker 2: would you hang at your barn probably put it on
Speaker 2: his doorstep. Hey man, this guy, whoever you are, he's
Speaker 2: not going to say his name, because this guy is
Speaker 2: a world class. Let's make a case for him right now.
Speaker 1: Not in the world class, just one of the absolutely
Speaker 1: one of the best dudes, major accomplished songwriter.
Speaker 2: Maybe a pair of loop tickets.
Speaker 1: Either you're Luke Orley, I'll throw some bargain and power.
Speaker 2: I'll throw some tickets in there. If we could get
Speaker 2: that door on Luke. Luke would want that to happen.
Speaker 3: I mean, he's offered to give me the deer. I
Speaker 3: just you know, I'm just saying, yeah, we know that.
Speaker 2: How far is Ray? How far does Ray live from?
Speaker 2: Where that is faulture? Fifty miles? I would make that happen.
Speaker 2: We'll get Future on the phone. You got that, all right? Ben?
Speaker 3: Dude, that was awesome with Hey, this is this little tib.
Speaker 1: This is Ben's first ever podcast, breaking him, breaking him in, breaking.
Speaker 2: Proud to do it. Thanks for coming on. We love
Speaker 2: you man, joined boys. I appreciate it. Thanks for coming
Speaker 2: and hanging out with us, and we'll let you get
Speaker 2: to you right. Yeah, sounds good.
Speaker 1: Thanks for hanging out in God's country with us.
Speaker 2: For a little bit. And thank y'all hard class.
Speaker 3: I forgot that was what we were calling