WEBVTT - A&G On Demand Wednesday June 17 Hour 3 0:00:21.440 --> 0:00:23.400 According to a new study from the c d C, 0:00:23.760 --> 0:00:27.840 most people are not using hand sanitizer correctly. They say, 0:00:27.960 --> 0:00:31.600 you're supposed to rub your hands with sanitizer for thirty seconds, 0:00:31.680 --> 0:00:33.880 which is even longer than when you watch your hands 0:00:34.120 --> 0:00:37.240 it's twenty seconds. The study was published in the Journal 0:00:37.320 --> 0:00:39.600 of Information. It would have been nice to have three 0:00:39.640 --> 0:00:46.600 months ago. Yeah, yeah, I am not doing that. I 0:00:46.600 --> 0:00:48.440 didn't know that I am not doing it. To wait 0:00:48.440 --> 0:00:50.280 a minute, if your hands are soaked with it, what 0:00:50.600 --> 0:00:53.800 does it matter if you're rubbing or not, or you see, 0:00:53.880 --> 0:00:57.080 you never know with these idiotic government pronouncements from the 0:00:57.280 --> 0:01:00.200 Journal of that would have been nice to note three 0:01:00.240 --> 0:01:03.720 months ago. It's a pretty funny joke. I use hand 0:01:03.760 --> 0:01:07.520 sanitizer so much. I keep a bottle in my in 0:01:07.600 --> 0:01:10.039 my truck and I have just constantly using it. But 0:01:10.120 --> 0:01:13.320 I haven't been even close to rubbing for thirty seconds 0:01:13.319 --> 0:01:15.360 with it. I put a little in there and I 0:01:15.440 --> 0:01:18.240 rub it until it's gone, or you walk around with 0:01:18.280 --> 0:01:19.720 it kind of wet with your hands up in the 0:01:19.760 --> 0:01:21.679 air like a surgeon ntil it dries off. I mean, 0:01:21.720 --> 0:01:24.319 how much are you supposed to use? Doesn't that dictate 0:01:24.360 --> 0:01:27.880 how long you'll rob don't know. I mean, all right, here, 0:01:27.920 --> 0:01:30.600 here you go. Here's an illustration. This is what makes 0:01:30.680 --> 0:01:33.720 me insane. All right, Look, I just took a little squirt. 0:01:33.760 --> 0:01:35.319 I got one right in front of me. It's roughly 0:01:35.400 --> 0:01:38.720 the size of a p Okay, there you're going. I'm 0:01:38.720 --> 0:01:41.320 gonna rob and rub and rub till my hands are 0:01:41.400 --> 0:01:45.560 raw with my little peace sized compliment of hand sanitizer, 0:01:45.840 --> 0:01:48.960 which isn't nearly enough to cover both of my enormous 0:01:49.000 --> 0:01:53.800 manly hands harry gnarled knuckles. The rest of it can 0:01:53.880 --> 0:01:56.800 hit a golf ball two in thirty yards exactly. Or 0:01:57.160 --> 0:02:02.240 I can take a squirt like somebody spilled an orange 0:02:02.320 --> 0:02:05.840 juice glass and robert for ten seconds and then walk 0:02:05.880 --> 0:02:09.840 around with it dripping down my wrists? Which one was better? Oh, 0:02:09.919 --> 0:02:13.640 for the love of logic, I can't take the buttered 0:02:13.680 --> 0:02:17.120 world anymore. I can't take it. There's that girl trying 0:02:17.120 --> 0:02:20.520 to rescue that squirrel. That video may be shown for 0:02:20.560 --> 0:02:25.560 the rest of our lives. Her to help you, let 0:02:25.600 --> 0:02:28.919 me rescue you, And then it jumps on her and 0:02:28.960 --> 0:02:32.440 she shrieks like a lunatic. Of course, so would I. 0:02:33.560 --> 0:02:36.200 You got a wild beast leaping upon your chest, I 0:02:36.240 --> 0:02:38.120 don't think I've shown I don't think I've shown my 0:02:38.200 --> 0:02:40.800 wife the picture of the squirrel on Henry at the 0:02:40.880 --> 0:02:44.639 Grand Canyon. Oh you got She's gonna be so unhappy 0:02:44.680 --> 0:02:47.520 with that. Well, he might get Rocky Mountain squirrel fever. 0:02:48.120 --> 0:02:51.720 Why did you let a squirrel crawl on him? I 0:02:51.720 --> 0:02:53.600 don't know what was I gonna do? Shoot it? I 0:02:53.639 --> 0:02:56.280 assumed it would run away. Kids are always trying to 0:02:56.320 --> 0:02:59.160 catch squirrels. They don't catch the rights. But he did 0:02:59.240 --> 0:03:03.919 catch this one right. Maybe it wanted to be caught apparently. Yeah, 0:03:05.160 --> 0:03:09.639 So Center Republicans unveiled a policing reform bill, the President 0:03:09.720 --> 0:03:14.520 signed an executive order, Congress has a plan, and uh 0:03:14.560 --> 0:03:18.800 and and it's now we're gonna have a long negotiating 0:03:18.840 --> 0:03:22.440 period where various ideas are going to be bandied about, 0:03:22.440 --> 0:03:26.040 and they'll try to arrive at a at a compromise. 0:03:26.280 --> 0:03:30.720 Although I have at least half a suspicion that the 0:03:30.800 --> 0:03:35.040 Democrats would much rather have the issue in November than 0:03:35.080 --> 0:03:40.160 a solution. A compromised plan that would make the Trump 0:03:40.160 --> 0:03:44.760 administration and Senate and House Republicans look good could be 0:03:46.080 --> 0:03:49.720 you know, really weakening for the Democrats come November so 0:03:50.160 --> 0:03:54.080 I would I would set your sights toward loud negotiating 0:03:54.120 --> 0:03:57.400 in no solution and that the Democrats will toss up 0:03:58.080 --> 0:04:01.320 things they know the Republicans can never vote for. To 0:04:01.440 --> 0:04:03.920 keep this in the news, but at any rate, Center 0:04:03.960 --> 0:04:07.119 Republicans unveiled the Police Form bill that would discourage, but 0:04:07.200 --> 0:04:12.400 not ban, the so called chokeholes and no knock warrants. 0:04:12.960 --> 0:04:15.560 I don't I don't mind the chokehole decision, and people 0:04:15.560 --> 0:04:17.800 who know more about it, you know, can decide what's right. 0:04:17.839 --> 0:04:22.080 But that was it not a chokehold, old the murdery 0:04:22.120 --> 0:04:25.200 what's his name and man's neck? Yeah, that was that 0:04:25.240 --> 0:04:29.240 was not approved anything right. That was horrific. The Republican proposal, 0:04:29.279 --> 0:04:31.360 which Senate leader said would be considered on the floor 0:04:31.400 --> 0:04:36.440 next week, does not mandate certain policing practices the Democratic 0:04:36.480 --> 0:04:39.239 plan does. The federal government will mandate your local police 0:04:39.440 --> 0:04:43.400 force does A, B and C. The Republican plan encourages 0:04:43.440 --> 0:04:47.000 thousands of local police law enforcement agencies to curtail practices 0:04:47.040 --> 0:04:50.279 such as chokeholds and certain no knock warrants by withholding 0:04:50.320 --> 0:04:55.000 federal funds to departments that don't uh, you know, adhere 0:04:55.040 --> 0:04:59.760 to their will. Um and they must submit reports about them. 0:04:59.800 --> 0:05:03.200 The gislation also requires local law enforcement agencies to report 0:05:03.320 --> 0:05:08.719 all officer involved deaths to the FBI. Tim Scott, Republicans, 0:05:08.760 --> 0:05:13.000 South Carolina, the black Republican senator, is spearing the spearheading 0:05:13.040 --> 0:05:17.679 the GOP bill. Um. I saw some courages the broader 0:05:17.760 --> 0:05:19.840 use of body worn cameras as well. I don't know 0:05:19.880 --> 0:05:22.480 if it was this. I saw something somewhere where you 0:05:22.480 --> 0:05:24.880 you have to report within a certain amount of time 0:05:25.320 --> 0:05:27.800 whenever you fire your weapon, and I thought that's not 0:05:27.920 --> 0:05:31.800 already the case, not to the federal government. The federal 0:05:31.839 --> 0:05:36.440 government has brutally incomplete statistics on all of that. It's 0:05:36.480 --> 0:05:39.360 just it's a local matter. If there's a big enough noise, 0:05:39.400 --> 0:05:43.120 it goes to your county, then maybe to your state. Um. 0:05:43.160 --> 0:05:48.080 You know, it's so hard for me to advocate nationalized 0:05:48.960 --> 0:05:51.800 uh you know, required reporting. I don't. I don't know 0:05:51.839 --> 0:05:54.320 that that's necessary. I thought that was locally so. But 0:05:54.400 --> 0:05:57.760 locally obviously you're reporting it to your boss to fire 0:05:57.760 --> 0:06:00.599 your gun. I mean, you could get all fifty states 0:06:00.640 --> 0:06:05.120 at this point to pass pretty good solid police reform, 0:06:05.200 --> 0:06:08.680 I think, and then it could be police no pun 0:06:08.760 --> 0:06:14.719 intended at the state level as opposed to a giant, flabby, unresponsive, 0:06:15.480 --> 0:06:19.360 overly powerful, blunt instrument that is a federal period. Now 0:06:19.400 --> 0:06:21.240 I would be I'm sure would be against that if 0:06:21.520 --> 0:06:24.719 if only for my life experiences. Whenever you try to 0:06:24.760 --> 0:06:27.960 do this, it makes things worse every single time I've 0:06:28.000 --> 0:06:30.440 ever experienced it in my life, or there's government stuff 0:06:30.520 --> 0:06:32.520 or a giant company, whenever they try to do it 0:06:32.560 --> 0:06:36.440 from the top down, like the giant reports, more reports 0:06:36.480 --> 0:06:39.720 being funneled up has always made things worse in my 0:06:39.760 --> 0:06:43.840 life experience. Yep, yep. Now on the Democrats make things better, 0:06:44.040 --> 0:06:46.680 but it doesn't well, and that's that's the problem. And 0:06:46.960 --> 0:06:50.520 people have this fantasy idea of how the federal government 0:06:50.520 --> 0:06:53.080 works and how its agencies work, and they think, oh no, 0:06:53.080 --> 0:06:56.160 they'll they'll be efficient, they'll be forthright and honest and 0:06:56.440 --> 0:06:58.680 hard working, and they'll deal with this terrible problem. And 0:06:58.720 --> 0:07:01.359 I'm telling you, look king to d C, which is 0:07:01.800 --> 0:07:05.120 from three to three thousand miles. Well, I'm sorry, Alaska, 0:07:05.480 --> 0:07:08.719 the six thousand miles away from you looking to them 0:07:08.800 --> 0:07:11.200 to be your overlords and and sweep in you know, 0:07:11.280 --> 0:07:13.880 goodness and justice. It's just well, if I was gonna 0:07:13.920 --> 0:07:16.000 be charitable, I'd say it's naive. If I was not 0:07:16.040 --> 0:07:19.200 gonna be charitable, I'd say it's idiotic. Even before the 0:07:19.280 --> 0:07:23.680 legislation was unveiled, unveiled rather, Democratic leaders said it fell 0:07:23.760 --> 0:07:27.800 short of the sweeping action is needed. House Democrats are 0:07:27.840 --> 0:07:31.160 moving forward the package that would strictly ban police choke holds, 0:07:31.160 --> 0:07:33.320 make it easier for victims of police violence to sue 0:07:33.360 --> 0:07:37.480 officers and departments, and create a national database of police misconduct, 0:07:37.680 --> 0:07:41.640 among other provisions. There is a lot of overlap in 0:07:41.680 --> 0:07:45.800 these two measures, and plenty to talk about, but the 0:07:45.880 --> 0:07:50.360 White House has said revising so called qualified immunity is 0:07:50.440 --> 0:07:53.840 off the table, won't even talk about it. Now. We're 0:07:53.920 --> 0:07:56.640 luck looking forward to a conversation with one of the 0:07:56.640 --> 0:07:59.360 good folks from the Pacific Legal Foundation. We're gonna do 0:07:59.400 --> 0:08:02.800 an extra podcast and then hit you with some highlights 0:08:03.040 --> 0:08:06.360 of it talking about qualified immunity, the idea that government 0:08:06.440 --> 0:08:10.840 employees cannot be sued for violating your civil rights except 0:08:10.840 --> 0:08:14.280 in very narrow circumstances. Um, and those of us on 0:08:14.440 --> 0:08:19.160 the libertarian end of conservatism, um, are not fans of 0:08:19.200 --> 0:08:22.840 it at all. Um. Well, one of the descents the 0:08:22.880 --> 0:08:25.840 other day in the Supreme court from taking this up 0:08:25.840 --> 0:08:28.520 as a case. Was talking about how it's just it's 0:08:28.560 --> 0:08:30.840 not ended up being used the way it was intended 0:08:30.880 --> 0:08:33.120 to be used. That seems to be what's happened over 0:08:33.160 --> 0:08:35.040 the years. But we'll learn more about that with our 0:08:35.080 --> 0:08:37.600 guests and tell you about it later this week. One 0:08:37.640 --> 0:08:39.760 of the things I'm gonna ask him, because I have 0:08:40.080 --> 0:08:44.120 such a jaundiced view of humanity, like all of humanity, 0:08:44.160 --> 0:08:51.600 is that if you really rain in qualified immunity, will 0:08:51.679 --> 0:08:55.520 the the vermin like lawyers of the world, Which is 0:08:55.559 --> 0:08:58.200 not to suggest that all lawyers are vermin like, far 0:08:58.240 --> 0:09:02.400 from it, but will the the real mosquito lawyers of 0:09:02.400 --> 0:09:06.760 the world just flock to and flock at every cop 0:09:07.480 --> 0:09:11.320 who pulls anybody over for speeding, and everybody will get 0:09:11.320 --> 0:09:16.760 sued all the time to get settlements. Like happens in 0:09:16.760 --> 0:09:20.080 the workplace. We've seen it. We've we've worked in the 0:09:20.160 --> 0:09:23.880 same radio studio for a long time now, um, and 0:09:24.360 --> 0:09:26.080 we've seen people come and go, and we've seen a 0:09:26.080 --> 0:09:31.000 handful of wrongful dismissal suits and they were utterly laughable, 0:09:31.440 --> 0:09:34.800 I mean, not even close to being legit. And other 0:09:34.880 --> 0:09:38.400 people who left by other means were known to threaten 0:09:38.480 --> 0:09:42.360 that sort of thing as well. Um, And they don't 0:09:42.360 --> 0:09:44.120 win those cases, but they get written a check for 0:09:44.240 --> 0:09:48.320 five two dollars. And I am a little concerned that 0:09:48.400 --> 0:09:50.800 the cops of the world will just constantly be sued. 0:09:51.040 --> 0:09:53.680 But you know, if it's gone way beyond the original intent, 0:09:53.800 --> 0:09:56.439 to the point where you can have some building inspector 0:09:56.920 --> 0:10:00.840 who you you question, questioned him a little little too sharply, 0:10:01.400 --> 0:10:04.080 and he violates your civil rights over and over again 0:10:04.080 --> 0:10:07.200 and screws you up and down. And I've known business 0:10:07.200 --> 0:10:10.440 people this has happened to. Um, if he violates your 0:10:10.440 --> 0:10:12.800 civil rights, you ought to be able to go after him. 0:10:12.840 --> 0:10:16.240 The fact that he gets a paycheck from some you know, 0:10:16.559 --> 0:10:20.080 county somewhere protects him from or enables him to violate 0:10:20.120 --> 0:10:24.960 your civil rights, that's obscene. Um, we should revisit aunt 0:10:25.040 --> 0:10:28.600 Jemima and Christopher Columbus. They're seeing each other. You know, 0:10:28.679 --> 0:10:31.240 I'd heard that rumor, but I didn't. We should reviews 0:10:31.240 --> 0:10:33.720 that those stories. Also, seven eleven is canceled. It's free 0:10:33.720 --> 0:10:36.480 slurpy day that they have every year. We all got 0:10:36.520 --> 0:10:38.880 hooked by the paw patrol story that turns out was 0:10:38.920 --> 0:10:46.600 not true. And some COVID and some COVID stuff all 0:10:47.040 --> 0:11:09.560 the way the Armstrong and Getty Show. I'll start serious 0:11:09.600 --> 0:11:12.600 and gradually get less serious. But it is becoming more 0:11:12.640 --> 0:11:18.680 and more clear that former rock star now he ain't 0:11:18.679 --> 0:11:22.480 never gonna get elected to nothing. Governor Andrew Cuomo's decision 0:11:22.880 --> 0:11:28.920 to force nursing homes to take COVID patients sentenced thousands 0:11:28.920 --> 0:11:35.760 of people to death. Thousands of vulnerable old people, your grandma, 0:11:35.800 --> 0:11:40.200 your grandma, grandpa, whatever, sentence them to death by making 0:11:40.240 --> 0:11:43.640 the nursing homes. In many cases they're screaming, don't send 0:11:43.679 --> 0:11:46.520 us COVID patients, were worried that old people. It's around 0:11:46.520 --> 0:11:48.920 the world and showing old people are more. It was 0:11:48.960 --> 0:11:52.480 the rule. You had to have to take them. You 0:11:52.520 --> 0:11:54.200 had to take them, and so we will punish you, 0:11:54.240 --> 0:11:59.120 We will bring you to your knees. Unbelievable. So this 0:11:59.320 --> 0:12:02.400 latest reort in the government more power. This latest report 0:12:02.440 --> 0:12:06.760 says that killed six thousand people. About six per of 0:12:06.800 --> 0:12:09.040 the hundred thousand nursing home residents in the state of 0:12:09.080 --> 0:12:13.439 New York died from COVID because of you know, some 0:12:13.480 --> 0:12:15.280 of them would have died anyway, but a lot of 0:12:15.320 --> 0:12:19.520 them because of the policy, the mandatory you must take 0:12:19.600 --> 0:12:24.000 these COVID patients into your nursing home. Just absolutely freaking unbelievable, 0:12:25.360 --> 0:12:30.080 so fun little run where Andrew Cuomo was on TV 0:12:30.240 --> 0:12:33.400 Live every day because he's the genius Savior leader. Why 0:12:33.480 --> 0:12:37.520 isn't he the Democratic nominee freaking government in their policies 0:12:38.000 --> 0:12:42.520 and they never held to account for these decisions. Anyway, 0:12:42.880 --> 0:12:45.400 I'll move away from that. Uh and Jemima is no 0:12:45.480 --> 0:12:51.640 more uh PEPSI co owns Aunt Jemima syrup um and 0:12:51.800 --> 0:12:55.400 is doing away with Aunt Jemima. She'd been updated like 0:12:55.480 --> 0:12:58.360 what a decade fifteen years ago. She wasn't the more 0:12:58.480 --> 0:13:02.600 zoftig black lady. It was like a really hot uh 0:13:03.000 --> 0:13:07.120 black mom on the on the certain body and she 0:13:07.200 --> 0:13:10.800 lost the kerchief around her head when they updated her. Also, 0:13:10.960 --> 0:13:12.800 did she have anything on her on her hand? I 0:13:12.840 --> 0:13:16.360 can't remember, Paul Catherine and I was asking the question earlier, 0:13:16.520 --> 0:13:20.080 and I don't care. There's no need to have Ant 0:13:20.120 --> 0:13:23.000 Jemima on the syrup. But it doesn't actually make it, 0:13:23.080 --> 0:13:25.680 you see. But I'm of the belief that that had 0:13:26.040 --> 0:13:29.920 no negative effects on me. The presence of that image 0:13:29.960 --> 0:13:32.720 on the bottle. Yeah, I just I can't believe that 0:13:32.720 --> 0:13:37.040 that had any negative effect on me. Well, I'm not 0:13:37.080 --> 0:13:39.640 sure it had any effect on me at all, but 0:13:39.679 --> 0:13:41.840 it certainly don't think it had any negative effect on me. 0:13:43.080 --> 0:13:46.720 Uh No, they don't promote racism. Did that spread racism? 0:13:46.720 --> 0:13:49.920 Did that make people think a certain thing? I tell 0:13:49.960 --> 0:13:52.280 you what, I grew up in a pretty racially diverse well, 0:13:52.320 --> 0:13:54.800 I went to a racially diverse high school. And um, 0:13:55.160 --> 0:13:58.160 the Antiemima did not influence my views of my black 0:13:58.200 --> 0:14:01.880 classmates and friends anymore than you know, like the Freedom 0:14:01.920 --> 0:14:05.320 Bandido influenced my views of the catcher on my baseball 0:14:05.360 --> 0:14:08.720 team whose mom was Mexican. Um, it didn't. A friend 0:14:08.720 --> 0:14:13.280 of mine was Pakistani. Um. And and no like Arab 0:14:13.320 --> 0:14:16.720 evil guy in his robes thing influenced my views of 0:14:16.720 --> 0:14:21.040 of of him. Um I yeah. At the same time, 0:14:21.080 --> 0:14:24.960 I mean, if it's really a demeaning, like, what's what's 0:14:24.960 --> 0:14:27.000 the meaning about what's de meaning about it? We'll see 0:14:27.280 --> 0:14:29.320 that one. I didn't find the meaning at all, especially 0:14:29.360 --> 0:14:32.440 the new one. I had the idea that this nice 0:14:32.760 --> 0:14:35.280 black lady makes pancakes and her serp is delicious. I 0:14:35.280 --> 0:14:40.200 don't know. Um, I'm with you on this one. I 0:14:40.240 --> 0:14:45.440 can't imagine. So there ain't no clowns flipping burgers. It's 0:14:45.440 --> 0:14:50.520 your local McDonald's. Nobody's thinks thinks there is anyway, if 0:14:50.560 --> 0:14:52.960 you can, if you can explain how that was, you know, 0:14:53.040 --> 0:14:55.360 actually racist and doing harm to America, I'd like to 0:14:55.400 --> 0:14:57.640 hear the argument. But it was thought to be a 0:14:57.760 --> 0:15:02.560 stereotypical view of a black woman of the early twenty 0:15:03.000 --> 0:15:05.920 similar to like the Cleveland Indians logo. Well no, because 0:15:05.960 --> 0:15:08.760 it wasn't not comedic, and I mean the original one, 0:15:08.800 --> 0:15:13.480 she was just a slightly heavy set. I'm talking about 0:15:13.480 --> 0:15:15.400 the one from like the sixties and seventies. If if 0:15:15.440 --> 0:15:18.600 it started and there was some horrific image, I'm not 0:15:18.680 --> 0:15:21.640 aware of that. Maybe I'm stupid, but I used on 0:15:21.800 --> 0:15:24.720 racial stereotypes of what I see it being classified as 0:15:24.760 --> 0:15:26.960 is why it had to go. Yeah, okay, okay, the 0:15:27.000 --> 0:15:31.160 Cleveland Indians thing is freaking ridiculous. Aunt Jemima was just 0:15:31.240 --> 0:15:33.000 a nice looking black lake. I just thought it was 0:15:33.080 --> 0:15:36.560 somebody's mom who was black. I never thought about it 0:15:36.600 --> 0:15:38.880 at all. Anyway. It was actually based on a real 0:15:38.960 --> 0:15:41.800 image of a woman named Nancy Green, who was known 0:15:41.840 --> 0:15:45.240 as a magnificent magnificent cook, back in the day. You know, 0:15:45.320 --> 0:15:47.520 I was never attracted her. I'm an aunt, Jemima Man. 0:15:47.840 --> 0:15:52.600 I'm sorry, I'm a Mrs Butterworth Man. Now she's married, 0:15:52.640 --> 0:15:56.680 but she keeps telling me she's gonna get divorced soon. Uh. 0:15:56.720 --> 0:15:59.080 And then the other one is the married to Mr 0:15:59.120 --> 0:16:03.000 Butterworth obvious. Another Columbus statue has come down, this one 0:16:03.360 --> 0:16:05.520 in a park in St. Louis that had been up 0:16:05.520 --> 0:16:09.520 since eight three. I think it was very long time. Um. 0:16:09.560 --> 0:16:11.720 And my problem with all these statues coming down is 0:16:11.720 --> 0:16:14.560 when there's no vote or there's no process involved, it's 0:16:14.640 --> 0:16:16.680 just either mobs pulling it down with a rope and 0:16:16.720 --> 0:16:19.680 it stays down, or in this case, they decided to 0:16:19.720 --> 0:16:23.400 remove it because people kept vandalizing it and they couldn't 0:16:23.440 --> 0:16:26.160 afford security to keep it from being vandalized, which means 0:16:26.200 --> 0:16:29.200 the mob is determining what statues are up in arn't 0:16:29.200 --> 0:16:30.680 And I just think that's a bad idea and what 0:16:30.760 --> 0:16:34.040 lesson is learned by people observing this. Here's how you 0:16:34.120 --> 0:16:38.440 get changed. Violence, Yeah, exactly, violence, threat of violence, destroying 0:16:38.480 --> 0:16:40.720 things until you get your way. I don't care about. 0:16:40.760 --> 0:16:43.240 You can take down every Christopher Columbus statue in Americas, 0:16:43.480 --> 0:16:45.840 I don't care, but I have no that you know. 0:16:45.880 --> 0:16:48.080 The founding Father's stuff I do care about. But Christopher 0:16:48.120 --> 0:16:51.560 Columbus freaking cares. That whole story is dumb anyway in 0:16:51.640 --> 0:16:57.080 terms of but UM only discovered the Caribbean writers long 0:16:57.120 --> 0:17:02.320 after American whatever. UM. But the mob can't be deciding 0:17:02.400 --> 0:17:05.400 what statues are up in our parks were in front 0:17:05.400 --> 0:17:08.160 of our buildings. That's just no way to run a country. 0:17:08.520 --> 0:17:11.520 I would agree completely. Now, in California, they voted to 0:17:11.560 --> 0:17:15.439 remove the Columbus statue from the capitol rotunda, where it 0:17:15.480 --> 0:17:18.320 had been since the very very long time. UM. But 0:17:18.400 --> 0:17:21.240 they voted because Californians really like the Bahamas and they 0:17:21.280 --> 0:17:25.200 appreciate him discovering them. I guess it's hard to imagine 0:17:25.280 --> 0:17:27.879 why Christopher Columbus was in the rotunda of the California 0:17:27.920 --> 0:17:30.480 capital at all. It was, but it was a nod 0:17:30.480 --> 0:17:35.080 to immigrants, and particularly Italian immigrants, even though he was Portuguese, 0:17:35.200 --> 0:17:40.440 well even canceled he was Italian, sponsored by queens Alias 0:17:41.720 --> 0:18:04.679 do this good history life. I really should at some 0:18:04.720 --> 0:18:07.000 point lay out what I ate. Yesterday I had one 0:18:07.000 --> 0:18:10.520 of the all time worst eating days, certainly certainly for 0:18:10.560 --> 0:18:13.880 an adult in middle age. That's that's saying something because 0:18:13.880 --> 0:18:16.720 you've had some doozies. Oh yeah, it was just like extraordinary. 0:18:16.920 --> 0:18:20.680 Yeah yeah. Oh coming up live team coverage of the 0:18:20.760 --> 0:18:28.440 latest from Jazz Jazz. So stay tuned, won't you? Don't? 0:18:28.440 --> 0:18:36.080 I understand it's shrunk. Yeah, voluntarily, there was shrinkage. What 0:18:36.119 --> 0:18:39.600 we're gonna do for you now is play you. UM. 0:18:39.760 --> 0:18:43.240 An interview statement by a Georgia sheriff whose name I 0:18:43.280 --> 0:18:44.760 don't have in front of me, or if I do, 0:18:44.800 --> 0:18:47.280 I misplaced it and I apologize for that. We'll get 0:18:47.280 --> 0:18:49.960 that for you. UM. But he is a black man, 0:18:50.840 --> 0:18:55.199 and he is talking about, you know, aspects of the 0:18:55.280 --> 0:19:00.240 killing of the gentleman at the Wendy's in Georgia by 0:19:00.280 --> 0:19:03.560 the police. Um. He's talking about it from a law 0:19:03.680 --> 0:19:06.680 enforcement perspective, in a sociological perspective that I think is 0:19:06.680 --> 0:19:09.040 absolutely worth hearing. I assume you've seen the video the 0:19:09.080 --> 0:19:12.560 guy uh passed out slash fell asleep in the drive 0:19:12.600 --> 0:19:15.199 through at Wendy's. Wendy's people called the cops that we 0:19:15.200 --> 0:19:17.040 got a drunk guy passed out. They get there, they 0:19:17.080 --> 0:19:20.080 determined he probably is drunk. They talked for twenty minutes, 0:19:20.240 --> 0:19:23.760 very calmly him and the cops. Yeah. Anyway, when they 0:19:23.760 --> 0:19:26.679 went to arrest him, he tries to fight him and then, uh, 0:19:27.080 --> 0:19:28.920 you know, he ends up getting shot and killed. This 0:19:29.040 --> 0:19:33.400 is Sheriff Alphonso Williams. Okay, very good, let's roll that. 0:19:33.560 --> 0:19:35.679 You know, the family attorney in this case says that 0:19:35.760 --> 0:19:40.160 police should have tried to catch Brooks instead of shooting 0:19:40.200 --> 0:19:46.439 at him. What is your reaction to that? Having thirty 0:19:46.520 --> 0:19:50.639 years and the business police lay in law enforcement, and 0:19:50.720 --> 0:19:54.159 twenty seven of those years having taught use of force 0:19:54.400 --> 0:19:58.360 and taught hundreds and hundreds of all enforcement officers across 0:19:58.400 --> 0:20:01.800 the state of Georgia and others eights, I just think 0:20:01.840 --> 0:20:04.879 that he's a lawyer. He's not a law enforcement officer. 0:20:05.320 --> 0:20:10.119 I think that is It's just a ridiculous statement. Uh. Obviously, 0:20:10.840 --> 0:20:15.360 we saw in the video that the Brooks was engaged 0:20:15.359 --> 0:20:18.159 in a fight with the officers. They were on the ground. 0:20:18.280 --> 0:20:20.119 We know that when we're on the ground, we have 0:20:20.240 --> 0:20:24.200 a very high likelihood of being hurt or killed. It's 0:20:24.240 --> 0:20:26.679 not the place we want to be. This is not 0:20:26.760 --> 0:20:31.800 a wrestling match. The Brooks is able to take a 0:20:31.840 --> 0:20:34.320 non lethal weapon, a taser, away from one of the 0:20:34.400 --> 0:20:39.399 officers and he flees. They give chase. He's committed to 0:20:39.800 --> 0:20:45.240 felony obstruction of an officer counts, and he needs to 0:20:45.280 --> 0:20:47.840 be held to combo. So they were perfectly justified in 0:20:47.920 --> 0:20:53.679 running behind Brooks to to capture him. He Brooks turned 0:20:53.760 --> 0:20:57.800 back to the officers and fired the taser. And we 0:20:58.000 --> 0:21:01.200 all know this is a third law enforcement agency I've 0:21:01.200 --> 0:21:04.639 been head of, and and every agency I've gone to, 0:21:04.840 --> 0:21:09.040 I've required every officer who carries a taser to to 0:21:09.200 --> 0:21:13.119 be tased with it so that you understand the incapacitation 0:21:13.680 --> 0:21:19.639 five seconds one thousand one, one thousand two, one thousand three, 0:21:20.000 --> 0:21:24.720 one thousand four, one thousand five. That's five whole seconds 0:21:24.720 --> 0:21:27.399 that if an officer has hit with that taser, that 0:21:27.520 --> 0:21:29.720 he all of his muscles will be locked up, and 0:21:29.760 --> 0:21:34.120 he'll have the inability to move and to respond, and 0:21:34.200 --> 0:21:37.760 yet he is still responsible for every weapon on his belt. 0:21:38.440 --> 0:21:41.480 He is. So if that officer had been hit, he 0:21:41.600 --> 0:21:45.360 still has a farm on his side, and the likelihood 0:21:45.359 --> 0:21:48.280 of him being stomped in the head or having his 0:21:48.359 --> 0:21:52.800 farm taken and used against him was a probability, And 0:21:52.880 --> 0:21:55.679 so he did what he needed to do, and this 0:21:55.760 --> 0:22:03.359 was a completely justifiation shooting the show that's you don't listen. 0:22:03.520 --> 0:22:07.119 This is the nGy way of things. You don't need 0:22:07.160 --> 0:22:12.600 to agree with that to agree that it's worth hearing 0:22:12.720 --> 0:22:15.919 that perspective. And I hadn't heard any other media outlet. 0:22:15.960 --> 0:22:18.400 My first thought was when I heard this and there 0:22:18.440 --> 0:22:20.880 was discussion on a cable news channel, my first thought was, well, 0:22:20.920 --> 0:22:23.320 if he taste if the if the guy running away 0:22:23.359 --> 0:22:25.600 had hit the cops and taste him, then he could 0:22:25.600 --> 0:22:27.800 take their gun. And I hadn't heard anybody bring that up, 0:22:27.800 --> 0:22:29.920 and I thought, that's the that's the most obvious thing 0:22:29.920 --> 0:22:32.320 that happens. So I'm glad that sheriff mentioned that as 0:22:32.320 --> 0:22:34.880 a possibility. Well, remember that was key to the whole 0:22:34.920 --> 0:22:37.160 Michael Brown thing in Ferguson. He was fighting the cop 0:22:37.240 --> 0:22:39.399 trying to get his guns. So the idea that he 0:22:39.440 --> 0:22:44.840 was quote unquote unarmed UM is highly debatable. I know 0:22:44.880 --> 0:22:46.800 where this interview goes because I've heard it. I still 0:22:46.840 --> 0:22:49.080 haven't heard the answer for We brought it up yesterday, 0:22:49.080 --> 0:22:53.200 and I'm not second guesting anybody. I'm just asking, um, 0:22:53.440 --> 0:22:55.879 he wouldn't have turned and fired the taser if you 0:22:55.920 --> 0:22:58.160 hadn't been If you wouldn't have started to chase him. 0:22:58.160 --> 0:23:00.760 I don't think so, what would the would it be 0:23:00.760 --> 0:23:04.719 good in the future, tell that somebody who's who has 0:23:04.720 --> 0:23:10.680 committed a non violent crime, you think drunk driving. Um, 0:23:10.920 --> 0:23:13.200 just let him go and then you go catch him later. 0:23:13.240 --> 0:23:16.080 The Chief addresses that Victor Davis Hansen, we played that yesterday. 0:23:16.119 --> 0:23:17.600 He made some good points on the topic. It's a 0:23:17.640 --> 0:23:19.720 really good question. 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