Speaker 1: According to a new study from the c d C,
Speaker 1: most people are not using hand sanitizer correctly. They say,
Speaker 1: you're supposed to rub your hands with sanitizer for thirty seconds,
Speaker 1: which is even longer than when you watch your hands
Speaker 1: it's twenty seconds. The study was published in the Journal
Speaker 1: of Information. It would have been nice to have three
Speaker 1: months ago. Yeah, yeah, I am not doing that. I
Speaker 1: didn't know that I am not doing it. To wait
Speaker 1: a minute, if your hands are soaked with it, what
Speaker 1: does it matter if you're rubbing or not, or you see,
Speaker 1: you never know with these idiotic government pronouncements from the
Speaker 1: Journal of that would have been nice to note three
Speaker 1: months ago. It's a pretty funny joke. I use hand
Speaker 1: sanitizer so much. I keep a bottle in my in
Speaker 1: my truck and I have just constantly using it. But
Speaker 1: I haven't been even close to rubbing for thirty seconds
Speaker 1: with it. I put a little in there and I
Speaker 1: rub it until it's gone, or you walk around with
Speaker 1: it kind of wet with your hands up in the
Speaker 1: air like a surgeon ntil it dries off. I mean,
Speaker 1: how much are you supposed to use? Doesn't that dictate
Speaker 1: how long you'll rob don't know. I mean, all right, here,
Speaker 1: here you go. Here's an illustration. This is what makes
Speaker 1: me insane. All right, Look, I just took a little squirt.
Speaker 1: I got one right in front of me. It's roughly
Speaker 1: the size of a p Okay, there you're going. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna rob and rub and rub till my hands are
Speaker 1: raw with my little peace sized compliment of hand sanitizer,
Speaker 1: which isn't nearly enough to cover both of my enormous
Speaker 1: manly hands harry gnarled knuckles. The rest of it can
Speaker 1: hit a golf ball two in thirty yards exactly. Or
Speaker 1: I can take a squirt like somebody spilled an orange
Speaker 1: juice glass and robert for ten seconds and then walk
Speaker 1: around with it dripping down my wrists? Which one was better? Oh,
Speaker 1: for the love of logic, I can't take the buttered
Speaker 1: world anymore. I can't take it. There's that girl trying
Speaker 1: to rescue that squirrel. That video may be shown for
Speaker 1: the rest of our lives. Her to help you, let
Speaker 1: me rescue you, And then it jumps on her and
Speaker 1: she shrieks like a lunatic. Of course, so would I.
Speaker 1: You got a wild beast leaping upon your chest, I
Speaker 1: don't think I've shown I don't think I've shown my
Speaker 1: wife the picture of the squirrel on Henry at the
Speaker 1: Grand Canyon. Oh you got She's gonna be so unhappy
Speaker 1: with that. Well, he might get Rocky Mountain squirrel fever.
Speaker 1: Why did you let a squirrel crawl on him? I
Speaker 1: don't know what was I gonna do? Shoot it? I
Speaker 1: assumed it would run away. Kids are always trying to
Speaker 1: catch squirrels. They don't catch the rights. But he did
Speaker 1: catch this one right. Maybe it wanted to be caught apparently. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So Center Republicans unveiled a policing reform bill, the President
Speaker 1: signed an executive order, Congress has a plan, and uh
Speaker 1: and and it's now we're gonna have a long negotiating
Speaker 1: period where various ideas are going to be bandied about,
Speaker 1: and they'll try to arrive at a at a compromise.
Speaker 1: Although I have at least half a suspicion that the
Speaker 1: Democrats would much rather have the issue in November than
Speaker 1: a solution. A compromised plan that would make the Trump
Speaker 1: administration and Senate and House Republicans look good could be
Speaker 1: you know, really weakening for the Democrats come November so
Speaker 1: I would I would set your sights toward loud negotiating
Speaker 1: in no solution and that the Democrats will toss up
Speaker 1: things they know the Republicans can never vote for. To
Speaker 1: keep this in the news, but at any rate, Center
Speaker 1: Republicans unveiled the Police Form bill that would discourage, but
Speaker 1: not ban, the so called chokeholes and no knock warrants.
Speaker 1: I don't I don't mind the chokehole decision, and people
Speaker 1: who know more about it, you know, can decide what's right.
Speaker 1: But that was it not a chokehold, old the murdery
Speaker 1: what's his name and man's neck? Yeah, that was that
Speaker 1: was not approved anything right. That was horrific. The Republican proposal,
Speaker 1: which Senate leader said would be considered on the floor
Speaker 1: next week, does not mandate certain policing practices the Democratic
Speaker 1: plan does. The federal government will mandate your local police
Speaker 1: force does A, B and C. The Republican plan encourages
Speaker 1: thousands of local police law enforcement agencies to curtail practices
Speaker 1: such as chokeholds and certain no knock warrants by withholding
Speaker 1: federal funds to departments that don't uh, you know, adhere
Speaker 1: to their will. Um and they must submit reports about them.
Speaker 1: The gislation also requires local law enforcement agencies to report
Speaker 1: all officer involved deaths to the FBI. Tim Scott, Republicans,
Speaker 1: South Carolina, the black Republican senator, is spearing the spearheading
Speaker 1: the GOP bill. Um. I saw some courages the broader
Speaker 1: use of body worn cameras as well. I don't know
Speaker 1: if it was this. I saw something somewhere where you
Speaker 1: you have to report within a certain amount of time
Speaker 1: whenever you fire your weapon, and I thought that's not
Speaker 1: already the case, not to the federal government. The federal
Speaker 1: government has brutally incomplete statistics on all of that. It's
Speaker 1: just it's a local matter. If there's a big enough noise,
Speaker 1: it goes to your county, then maybe to your state. Um.
Speaker 1: You know, it's so hard for me to advocate nationalized
Speaker 1: uh you know, required reporting. I don't. I don't know
Speaker 1: that that's necessary. I thought that was locally so. But
Speaker 1: locally obviously you're reporting it to your boss to fire
Speaker 1: your gun. I mean, you could get all fifty states
Speaker 1: at this point to pass pretty good solid police reform,
Speaker 1: I think, and then it could be police no pun
Speaker 1: intended at the state level as opposed to a giant, flabby, unresponsive,
Speaker 1: overly powerful, blunt instrument that is a federal period. Now
Speaker 1: I would be I'm sure would be against that if
Speaker 1: if only for my life experiences. Whenever you try to
Speaker 1: do this, it makes things worse every single time I've
Speaker 1: ever experienced it in my life, or there's government stuff
Speaker 1: or a giant company, whenever they try to do it
Speaker 1: from the top down, like the giant reports, more reports
Speaker 1: being funneled up has always made things worse in my
Speaker 1: life experience. Yep, yep. Now on the Democrats make things better,
Speaker 1: but it doesn't well, and that's that's the problem. And
Speaker 1: people have this fantasy idea of how the federal government
Speaker 1: works and how its agencies work, and they think, oh no,
Speaker 1: they'll they'll be efficient, they'll be forthright and honest and
Speaker 1: hard working, and they'll deal with this terrible problem. And
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, look king to d C, which is
Speaker 1: from three to three thousand miles. Well, I'm sorry, Alaska,
Speaker 1: the six thousand miles away from you looking to them
Speaker 1: to be your overlords and and sweep in you know,
Speaker 1: goodness and justice. It's just well, if I was gonna
Speaker 1: be charitable, I'd say it's naive. If I was not
Speaker 1: gonna be charitable, I'd say it's idiotic. Even before the
Speaker 1: legislation was unveiled, unveiled rather, Democratic leaders said it fell
Speaker 1: short of the sweeping action is needed. House Democrats are
Speaker 1: moving forward the package that would strictly ban police choke holds,
Speaker 1: make it easier for victims of police violence to sue
Speaker 1: officers and departments, and create a national database of police misconduct,
Speaker 1: among other provisions. There is a lot of overlap in
Speaker 1: these two measures, and plenty to talk about, but the
Speaker 1: White House has said revising so called qualified immunity is
Speaker 1: off the table, won't even talk about it. Now. We're
Speaker 1: luck looking forward to a conversation with one of the
Speaker 1: good folks from the Pacific Legal Foundation. We're gonna do
Speaker 1: an extra podcast and then hit you with some highlights
Speaker 1: of it talking about qualified immunity, the idea that government
Speaker 1: employees cannot be sued for violating your civil rights except
Speaker 1: in very narrow circumstances. Um, and those of us on
Speaker 1: the libertarian end of conservatism, um, are not fans of
Speaker 1: it at all. Um. Well, one of the descents the
Speaker 1: other day in the Supreme court from taking this up
Speaker 1: as a case. Was talking about how it's just it's
Speaker 1: not ended up being used the way it was intended
Speaker 1: to be used. That seems to be what's happened over
Speaker 1: the years. But we'll learn more about that with our
Speaker 1: guests and tell you about it later this week. One
Speaker 1: of the things I'm gonna ask him, because I have
Speaker 1: such a jaundiced view of humanity, like all of humanity,
Speaker 1: is that if you really rain in qualified immunity, will
Speaker 1: the the vermin like lawyers of the world, Which is
Speaker 1: not to suggest that all lawyers are vermin like, far
Speaker 1: from it, but will the the real mosquito lawyers of
Speaker 1: the world just flock to and flock at every cop
Speaker 1: who pulls anybody over for speeding, and everybody will get
Speaker 1: sued all the time to get settlements. Like happens in
Speaker 1: the workplace. We've seen it. We've we've worked in the
Speaker 1: same radio studio for a long time now, um, and
Speaker 1: we've seen people come and go, and we've seen a
Speaker 1: handful of wrongful dismissal suits and they were utterly laughable,
Speaker 1: I mean, not even close to being legit. And other
Speaker 1: people who left by other means were known to threaten
Speaker 1: that sort of thing as well. Um, And they don't
Speaker 1: win those cases, but they get written a check for
Speaker 1: five two dollars. And I am a little concerned that
Speaker 1: the cops of the world will just constantly be sued.
Speaker 1: But you know, if it's gone way beyond the original intent,
Speaker 1: to the point where you can have some building inspector
Speaker 1: who you you question, questioned him a little little too sharply,
Speaker 1: and he violates your civil rights over and over again
Speaker 1: and screws you up and down. And I've known business
Speaker 1: people this has happened to. Um, if he violates your
Speaker 1: civil rights, you ought to be able to go after him.
Speaker 1: The fact that he gets a paycheck from some you know,
Speaker 1: county somewhere protects him from or enables him to violate
Speaker 1: your civil rights, that's obscene. Um, we should revisit aunt
Speaker 1: Jemima and Christopher Columbus. They're seeing each other. You know,
Speaker 1: I'd heard that rumor, but I didn't. We should reviews
Speaker 1: that those stories. Also, seven eleven is canceled. It's free
Speaker 1: slurpy day that they have every year. We all got
Speaker 1: hooked by the paw patrol story that turns out was
Speaker 1: not true. And some COVID and some COVID stuff all
Speaker 1: the way the Armstrong and Getty Show. I'll start serious
Speaker 1: and gradually get less serious. But it is becoming more
Speaker 1: and more clear that former rock star now he ain't
Speaker 1: never gonna get elected to nothing. Governor Andrew Cuomo's decision
Speaker 1: to force nursing homes to take COVID patients sentenced thousands
Speaker 1: of people to death. Thousands of vulnerable old people, your grandma,
Speaker 1: your grandma, grandpa, whatever, sentence them to death by making
Speaker 1: the nursing homes. In many cases they're screaming, don't send
Speaker 1: us COVID patients, were worried that old people. It's around
Speaker 1: the world and showing old people are more. It was
Speaker 1: the rule. You had to have to take them. You
Speaker 1: had to take them, and so we will punish you,
Speaker 1: We will bring you to your knees. Unbelievable. So this
Speaker 1: latest reort in the government more power. This latest report
Speaker 1: says that killed six thousand people. About six per of
Speaker 1: the hundred thousand nursing home residents in the state of
Speaker 1: New York died from COVID because of you know, some
Speaker 1: of them would have died anyway, but a lot of
Speaker 1: them because of the policy, the mandatory you must take
Speaker 1: these COVID patients into your nursing home. Just absolutely freaking unbelievable,
Speaker 1: so fun little run where Andrew Cuomo was on TV
Speaker 1: Live every day because he's the genius Savior leader. Why
Speaker 1: isn't he the Democratic nominee freaking government in their policies
Speaker 1: and they never held to account for these decisions. Anyway,
Speaker 1: I'll move away from that. Uh and Jemima is no
Speaker 1: more uh PEPSI co owns Aunt Jemima syrup um and
Speaker 1: is doing away with Aunt Jemima. She'd been updated like
Speaker 1: what a decade fifteen years ago. She wasn't the more
Speaker 1: zoftig black lady. It was like a really hot uh
Speaker 1: black mom on the on the certain body and she
Speaker 1: lost the kerchief around her head when they updated her. Also,
Speaker 1: did she have anything on her on her hand? I
Speaker 1: can't remember, Paul Catherine and I was asking the question earlier,
Speaker 1: and I don't care. There's no need to have Ant
Speaker 1: Jemima on the syrup. But it doesn't actually make it,
Speaker 1: you see. But I'm of the belief that that had
Speaker 1: no negative effects on me. The presence of that image
Speaker 1: on the bottle. Yeah, I just I can't believe that
Speaker 1: that had any negative effect on me. Well, I'm not
Speaker 1: sure it had any effect on me at all, but
Speaker 1: it certainly don't think it had any negative effect on me.
Speaker 1: Uh No, they don't promote racism. Did that spread racism?
Speaker 1: Did that make people think a certain thing? I tell
Speaker 1: you what, I grew up in a pretty racially diverse well,
Speaker 1: I went to a racially diverse high school. And um,
Speaker 1: the Antiemima did not influence my views of my black
Speaker 1: classmates and friends anymore than you know, like the Freedom
Speaker 1: Bandido influenced my views of the catcher on my baseball
Speaker 1: team whose mom was Mexican. Um, it didn't. A friend
Speaker 1: of mine was Pakistani. Um. And and no like Arab
Speaker 1: evil guy in his robes thing influenced my views of
Speaker 1: of of him. Um I yeah. At the same time,
Speaker 1: I mean, if it's really a demeaning, like, what's what's
Speaker 1: the meaning about what's de meaning about it? We'll see
Speaker 1: that one. I didn't find the meaning at all, especially
Speaker 1: the new one. I had the idea that this nice
Speaker 1: black lady makes pancakes and her serp is delicious. I
Speaker 1: don't know. Um, I'm with you on this one. I
Speaker 1: can't imagine. So there ain't no clowns flipping burgers. It's
Speaker 1: your local McDonald's. Nobody's thinks thinks there is anyway, if
Speaker 1: you can, if you can explain how that was, you know,
Speaker 1: actually racist and doing harm to America, I'd like to
Speaker 1: hear the argument. But it was thought to be a
Speaker 1: stereotypical view of a black woman of the early twenty
Speaker 1: similar to like the Cleveland Indians logo. Well no, because
Speaker 1: it wasn't not comedic, and I mean the original one,
Speaker 1: she was just a slightly heavy set. I'm talking about
Speaker 1: the one from like the sixties and seventies. If if
Speaker 1: it started and there was some horrific image, I'm not
Speaker 1: aware of that. Maybe I'm stupid, but I used on
Speaker 1: racial stereotypes of what I see it being classified as
Speaker 1: is why it had to go. Yeah, okay, okay, the
Speaker 1: Cleveland Indians thing is freaking ridiculous. Aunt Jemima was just
Speaker 1: a nice looking black lake. I just thought it was
Speaker 1: somebody's mom who was black. I never thought about it
Speaker 1: at all. Anyway. It was actually based on a real
Speaker 1: image of a woman named Nancy Green, who was known
Speaker 1: as a magnificent magnificent cook, back in the day. You know,
Speaker 1: I was never attracted her. I'm an aunt, Jemima Man.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm a Mrs Butterworth Man. Now she's married,
Speaker 1: but she keeps telling me she's gonna get divorced soon. Uh.
Speaker 1: And then the other one is the married to Mr
Speaker 1: Butterworth obvious. Another Columbus statue has come down, this one
Speaker 1: in a park in St. Louis that had been up
Speaker 1: since eight three. I think it was very long time. Um.
Speaker 1: And my problem with all these statues coming down is
Speaker 1: when there's no vote or there's no process involved, it's
Speaker 1: just either mobs pulling it down with a rope and
Speaker 1: it stays down, or in this case, they decided to
Speaker 1: remove it because people kept vandalizing it and they couldn't
Speaker 1: afford security to keep it from being vandalized, which means
Speaker 1: the mob is determining what statues are up in arn't
Speaker 1: And I just think that's a bad idea and what
Speaker 1: lesson is learned by people observing this. Here's how you
Speaker 1: get changed. Violence, Yeah, exactly, violence, threat of violence, destroying
Speaker 1: things until you get your way. I don't care about.
Speaker 1: You can take down every Christopher Columbus statue in Americas,
Speaker 1: I don't care, but I have no that you know.
Speaker 1: The founding Father's stuff I do care about. But Christopher
Speaker 1: Columbus freaking cares. That whole story is dumb anyway in
Speaker 1: terms of but UM only discovered the Caribbean writers long
Speaker 1: after American whatever. UM. But the mob can't be deciding
Speaker 1: what statues are up in our parks were in front
Speaker 1: of our buildings. That's just no way to run a country.
Speaker 1: I would agree completely. Now, in California, they voted to
Speaker 1: remove the Columbus statue from the capitol rotunda, where it
Speaker 1: had been since the very very long time. UM. But
Speaker 1: they voted because Californians really like the Bahamas and they
Speaker 1: appreciate him discovering them. I guess it's hard to imagine
Speaker 1: why Christopher Columbus was in the rotunda of the California
Speaker 1: capital at all. It was, but it was a nod
Speaker 1: to immigrants, and particularly Italian immigrants, even though he was Portuguese,
Speaker 1: well even canceled he was Italian, sponsored by queens Alias
Speaker 1: do this good history life. I really should at some
Speaker 1: point lay out what I ate. Yesterday I had one
Speaker 1: of the all time worst eating days, certainly certainly for
Speaker 1: an adult in middle age. That's that's saying something because
Speaker 1: you've had some doozies. Oh yeah, it was just like extraordinary.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. Oh coming up live team coverage of the
Speaker 1: latest from Jazz Jazz. So stay tuned, won't you? Don't?
Speaker 1: I understand it's shrunk. Yeah, voluntarily, there was shrinkage. What
Speaker 1: we're gonna do for you now is play you. UM.
Speaker 1: An interview statement by a Georgia sheriff whose name I
Speaker 1: don't have in front of me, or if I do,
Speaker 1: I misplaced it and I apologize for that. We'll get
Speaker 1: that for you. UM. But he is a black man,
Speaker 1: and he is talking about, you know, aspects of the
Speaker 1: killing of the gentleman at the Wendy's in Georgia by
Speaker 1: the police. Um. He's talking about it from a law
Speaker 1: enforcement perspective, in a sociological perspective that I think is
Speaker 1: absolutely worth hearing. I assume you've seen the video the
Speaker 1: guy uh passed out slash fell asleep in the drive
Speaker 1: through at Wendy's. Wendy's people called the cops that we
Speaker 1: got a drunk guy passed out. They get there, they
Speaker 1: determined he probably is drunk. They talked for twenty minutes,
Speaker 1: very calmly him and the cops. Yeah. Anyway, when they
Speaker 1: went to arrest him, he tries to fight him and then, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, he ends up getting shot and killed. This
Speaker 1: is Sheriff Alphonso Williams. Okay, very good, let's roll that.
Speaker 1: You know, the family attorney in this case says that
Speaker 1: police should have tried to catch Brooks instead of shooting
Speaker 1: at him. What is your reaction to that? Having thirty
Speaker 1: years and the business police lay in law enforcement, and
Speaker 1: twenty seven of those years having taught use of force
Speaker 1: and taught hundreds and hundreds of all enforcement officers across
Speaker 1: the state of Georgia and others eights, I just think
Speaker 1: that he's a lawyer. He's not a law enforcement officer.
Speaker 1: I think that is It's just a ridiculous statement. Uh. Obviously,
Speaker 1: we saw in the video that the Brooks was engaged
Speaker 1: in a fight with the officers. They were on the ground.
Speaker 1: We know that when we're on the ground, we have
Speaker 1: a very high likelihood of being hurt or killed. It's
Speaker 1: not the place we want to be. This is not
Speaker 1: a wrestling match. The Brooks is able to take a
Speaker 1: non lethal weapon, a taser, away from one of the
Speaker 1: officers and he flees. They give chase. He's committed to
Speaker 1: felony obstruction of an officer counts, and he needs to
Speaker 1: be held to combo. So they were perfectly justified in
Speaker 1: running behind Brooks to to capture him. He Brooks turned
Speaker 1: back to the officers and fired the taser. And we
Speaker 1: all know this is a third law enforcement agency I've
Speaker 1: been head of, and and every agency I've gone to,
Speaker 1: I've required every officer who carries a taser to to
Speaker 1: be tased with it so that you understand the incapacitation
Speaker 1: five seconds one thousand one, one thousand two, one thousand three,
Speaker 1: one thousand four, one thousand five. That's five whole seconds
Speaker 1: that if an officer has hit with that taser, that
Speaker 1: he all of his muscles will be locked up, and
Speaker 1: he'll have the inability to move and to respond, and
Speaker 1: yet he is still responsible for every weapon on his belt.
Speaker 1: He is. So if that officer had been hit, he
Speaker 1: still has a farm on his side, and the likelihood
Speaker 1: of him being stomped in the head or having his
Speaker 1: farm taken and used against him was a probability, And
Speaker 1: so he did what he needed to do, and this
Speaker 1: was a completely justifiation shooting the show that's you don't listen.
Speaker 1: This is the nGy way of things. You don't need
Speaker 1: to agree with that to agree that it's worth hearing
Speaker 1: that perspective. And I hadn't heard any other media outlet.
Speaker 1: My first thought was when I heard this and there
Speaker 1: was discussion on a cable news channel, my first thought was, well,
Speaker 1: if he taste if the if the guy running away
Speaker 1: had hit the cops and taste him, then he could
Speaker 1: take their gun. And I hadn't heard anybody bring that up,
Speaker 1: and I thought, that's the that's the most obvious thing
Speaker 1: that happens. So I'm glad that sheriff mentioned that as
Speaker 1: a possibility. Well, remember that was key to the whole
Speaker 1: Michael Brown thing in Ferguson. He was fighting the cop
Speaker 1: trying to get his guns. So the idea that he
Speaker 1: was quote unquote unarmed UM is highly debatable. I know
Speaker 1: where this interview goes because I've heard it. I still
Speaker 1: haven't heard the answer for We brought it up yesterday,
Speaker 1: and I'm not second guesting anybody. I'm just asking, um,
Speaker 1: he wouldn't have turned and fired the taser if you
Speaker 1: hadn't been If you wouldn't have started to chase him.
Speaker 1: I don't think so, what would the would it be
Speaker 1: good in the future, tell that somebody who's who has
Speaker 1: committed a non violent crime, you think drunk driving. Um,
Speaker 1: just let him go and then you go catch him later.
Speaker 1: The Chief addresses that Victor Davis Hansen, we played that yesterday.
Speaker 1: He made some good points on the topic. It's a
Speaker 1: really good question. The Chief will answer that and also
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Speaker 1: All right, let's hear more from the Georgia sheriff did
Speaker 1: what he needed to do and this was a completely
Speaker 1: justified shooting. There's there's nothing malicious or sadistic and the
Speaker 1: way these officers behaved, and it's very unfortunate that the
Speaker 1: law enforcement leaders in a state of Georgia have not
Speaker 1: come out and stood together on this case. I think
Speaker 1: it's political and and it it's it's sisseless. We're sending
Speaker 1: in the wrong message to our black youth. We're telling
Speaker 1: them that that that it's okay, that that they can
Speaker 1: run from the police, they can take a weapon from
Speaker 1: the police, they can fight with the police and and
Speaker 1: and point a weapon at the police and expect nothing
Speaker 1: to happen. That is the wrong message to saying to
Speaker 1: black youth that miraculously was on CNN. I think, wasn't it. Yeah?
Speaker 1: I recognized one of the anchor Att's voice there. It
Speaker 1: haunts my dreams. Uh yeah. Well, and again, if we're
Speaker 1: going to talk about policing in an intelligent way, not
Speaker 1: an angry mob tearing down statues in the parkway or
Speaker 1: torching small businesses, often minority owned way of talking, but
Speaker 1: seriously discussing it. UM, you need to hear that perspective.
Speaker 1: What if the um I haven't heard anybody say this,
Speaker 1: but I'm sure people are saying it. When they went
Speaker 1: to put him in handcuffs, he's thinking, well, once I'm
Speaker 1: in handcuffs, you could get me on the ground and
Speaker 1: kneel on my neck till I'm dead. I've seen it
Speaker 1: on TV a thousand times. That's what the family lawyers
Speaker 1: is saying, is it? And they say it soon triggered
Speaker 1: by having the handcuffs start to Because I can understand
Speaker 1: that it's unfortunate that there are people that believe that.
Speaker 1: I don't believe that if I got pulled over and
Speaker 1: they had to put cups on me for some reason,
Speaker 1: I would think I'm you know, nothing bad. Is gonna
Speaker 1: happen to me. But if you're convinced once they have
Speaker 1: you in handcuffs they might beat you or kill you,
Speaker 1: I can see why you'd run to get away from that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that that is the you know, that's well, that's that's
Speaker 1: the damage bad cops do, making the whole all and
Speaker 1: making it difficult not just for all other good cops,
Speaker 1: but for all of society. Because if you have a
Speaker 1: portion of the of the society that believes the cops
Speaker 1: are out to get you, the no, you're not going
Speaker 1: to get people to comply with the cops because they
Speaker 1: feel like once you get cups on me or you
Speaker 1: can do anything to me. And there are absolutely racial
Speaker 1: issues having to do with the various places in the police.
Speaker 1: On the other hand, you have the mainstream media which
Speaker 1: is just loving the horror porn of the videos and
Speaker 1: showing them over and over and over again and in
Speaker 1: the same way and again. It's not like there is
Speaker 1: no issue. I'm not saying that at all, But if
Speaker 1: you saw a video of a child being abducted all day,
Speaker 1: every day, you would really start to be paranoid about
Speaker 1: your children getting abducted. Here where the guy pulls her
Speaker 1: into the van and you saw it over and over
Speaker 1: and over again. Heck, yeah, that would have an effect
Speaker 1: on you. Yeah, the the horror porn, that's that's a
Speaker 1: good one. That's a good conundrum because you don't want
Speaker 1: you don't want to hide the reality of it from
Speaker 1: the public at all. Um. I had read about it
Speaker 1: and everything. When I saw it, that's when I realized, Okay,
Speaker 1: this guy just murdered somebody in the streets. What happened here?
Speaker 1: I got that from watching the video. Um, But then
Speaker 1: you played enough and you start to have the opposite effect.
Speaker 1: I don't know. That's a that's a tough one. Yeah, yeah, uh.
Speaker 1: You know the other argument I've heard from cops about
Speaker 1: this Georgia case. Um, and this guy was the father
Speaker 1: of four and it just it's awful that he's dead. Well,
Speaker 1: if you agree on that, and if you listen to
Speaker 1: the conversation nation they've had, because they talked for twenty
Speaker 1: minutes calmly, you think, how does this guy end up dead?
Speaker 1: This seems so calm and and easy to you know,
Speaker 1: it just doesn't seem like this could possibly know how
Speaker 1: it ends. It still doesn't seem like it could end
Speaker 1: with a death. Well, and the other thing that that
Speaker 1: bothers me about this has I've heard certain activist types say, well,
Speaker 1: look at the point that he fought the cops and
Speaker 1: grab the taser and ran away, you got you gotta
Speaker 1: let him go and excuse me, what are you going
Speaker 1: to get more of? Then? Yeah, guy thinks I don't
Speaker 1: want to get arrested. I know what I'll do. I'll
Speaker 1: fight the cops, take their tasters. They'll let me go
Speaker 1: because that's the new policy. If I can win this fistfight,
Speaker 1: they let me go, and then at least I got
Speaker 1: a chance to you know, get to another state, hide
Speaker 1: out whatever. We can't have an opt in trial by combat,
Speaker 1: that is you can need to write that somewhere. That's
Speaker 1: the best way to put it anywhere. And when the
Speaker 1: trial combat scene in the Game of Thrones, who has
Speaker 1: had brutal an optional trial by conduct combat it's you know,
Speaker 1: I get arrested. If I can take this guy, I
Speaker 1: get to get away and at least, you know, take
Speaker 1: my chances out to this woman or this woman, right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So that yeah, that that that's that doesn't work. That's
Speaker 1: non a non working situation. At the same time, if
Speaker 1: there were no police brutality, and we've received a handful
Speaker 1: of emails from white people who have had the speed
Speaker 1: out of them by the cops, I mean, utterly unjustified
Speaker 1: to hear their story. Um, if there were no oh yeah,
Speaker 1: if there were no excessive force, then you wouldn't have
Speaker 1: a lot of these problems. Although certain absolutely a lot
Speaker 1: of guys don't want to get arrested again because they've
Speaker 1: been arrested several times, and the penalties tend to get
Speaker 1: worse the more you get arrested and convicted, So there
Speaker 1: would still be people trying to fight the cops. But again,
Speaker 1: you know, our point in playing it was just to
Speaker 1: give you a different perspective than you're hearing in the
Speaker 1: mainstream media. And if you're an intelligent, thinking person, you've
Speaker 1: we out of here both. Again, that's a Georgia sheriff
Speaker 1: who's trained lots of cops and he was highly disappointed
Speaker 1: the police chief resigned immediately, as he says, is a
Speaker 1: political thing, you know, and it might have been the
Speaker 1: right move if she hadn't resigned, maybe the half the
Speaker 1: city's on fire and how many billion dollars worth of
Speaker 1: damage done in Minneapolis. I think fifty some uh don't
Speaker 1: a billion. I mean, um uh, you know that happens
Speaker 1: in Atlanta. If she doesn't resign immediately and you avoid it,
Speaker 1: all that ail trouble bruning chairs. We'll have a live
Speaker 1: team report from the Autonomous Zone in Seattle next the
Speaker 1: Armstrong and Get Show. Here's a guy who's lived in
Speaker 1: the area of Seattle now called Chaz for years. Whether
Speaker 1: this was an overreaction or not. Whether this is an
Speaker 1: overreaction or not, I don't know. But he wanted his
Speaker 1: voice disguised and everything like that because he's scared of
Speaker 1: the Chazz people. If they recognize his voice, maybe you are.
Speaker 1: Just let's go with this voice here. I've lived in
Speaker 1: chairs most of my life anyway, this is what he said.
Speaker 1: For the first time in my life in Capitol Hill.
Speaker 1: I hear gunshots every single night, and I've heard people
Speaker 1: screaming every single night outside and uh, they're not protest screams.
Speaker 1: I've heard protests screams, but I've also heard like skins
Speaker 1: of terror out there, and I don't know what's happening
Speaker 1: out there. Yeah, so I'm I'm having trouble nailing down
Speaker 1: it's actually happening I saw a report on Fox yesterday.
Speaker 1: This is on Fox, and they're more interested in the
Speaker 1: negative aspects of Chadz than the other channels are. And
Speaker 1: they said it's been peaceful for for almost entirely peaceful
Speaker 1: for the last thirty six hours. That's what they said
Speaker 1: on Fox. Now, this guy says he's hurting hearing gunshots
Speaker 1: every night. I've heard other people say it's a it's
Speaker 1: a it's a night and day difference, literally, and that
Speaker 1: the daytime is a street party and everybody's happy, and
Speaker 1: at night he gets really scary. At night, the dominant
Speaker 1: beasts take control. I've heard people say, I've heard reporters
Speaker 1: say the businesses are on board with this, they think
Speaker 1: it's awesome and they're you know, helping out with water
Speaker 1: and food and that sort of stuff. I've also heard
Speaker 1: other people say they they're they're they're doing this because
Speaker 1: they're scared to death their place is gonna get smashed. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we could play clips seventeen. Why not let's hit it. Oh,
Speaker 1: here it comes. That went down Sunday night, and it's
Speaker 1: a clear and scary example of what can happen when
Speaker 1: the police do not respond because of a city's leadership.
Speaker 1: It happened at this auto repair shop in Seattle, just
Speaker 1: outside about a block down from the occupation protest. The
Speaker 1: owners caught a guy who was armed with a knife
Speaker 1: in the act of stealing money and car keys and
Speaker 1: setting a fire inside the shop. They detained him while
Speaker 1: armed themselves, and called Seattle police. They never showed up
Speaker 1: to take the suspect into custody, and an angry mob
Speaker 1: from the protest zone broke down the fence demanding the
Speaker 1: suspect be released. Eventually the owner complied. Luckily, no shots
Speaker 1: were fired. I am very shaken up. I am very
Speaker 1: disappointed in the city's leadership. I'm very disappointed in the
Speaker 1: lack of police protection. I'm very disappointed that the fire
Speaker 1: department didn't show up fire department police to enforce law
Speaker 1: and order. We saw a case of street justice. A
Speaker 1: group of armed men from the protest zone surrounded the
Speaker 1: thief and arsonist, demanding he gave up the cash and keys.
Speaker 1: When he refused, he was beaten by the so called
Speaker 1: security team. On Monday, Seattle Police Chief Carmen Best that
Speaker 1: officers did respond to the area, but chose not to
Speaker 1: engage on behalf of the victim business owner or suspect. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a heck of a deal there. Well that is
Speaker 1: the Old West, is what that is. Yeah. I got
Speaker 1: a note from listeners who asked to be an anonymous
Speaker 1: or small business owners in wacky Washington. They're in Seattle.
Speaker 1: Checked out Chaz Chop. They say they really wanted to
Speaker 1: be called Chop. It's written in spray paint everywhere. That's
Speaker 1: why I'm calling it jazz. When they were there during
Speaker 1: the daytime, a lot of tours taking pictures, which made
Speaker 1: one guy mad, yelled about it not being Coachella. The
Speaker 1: atmosphere was tense. There's some yelling in that sort of thing.
Speaker 1: And then this from a Seattle p D officer. Um.
Speaker 1: He goes on about the the chaos and all Um,
Speaker 1: the warlord in charge of the new Capitol Hill autonom
Speaker 1: his zone, drives a Tesla. He's been arrested for drugs, guns, pimping,
Speaker 1: and crimes against children, and is on a federal child
Speaker 1: porn watch list. He carries an a K forty seven.
Speaker 1: He's already started abusing people inside w t F. You
Speaker 1: can't make this up. We've been castrated. There's no recovering
Speaker 1: from this. We can't go near the zone, have been
Speaker 1: warned by our department to stay away. We're only working
Speaker 1: for each other. Now. We've been in battles where these
Speaker 1: psychopaths have hit us with raw cinder blocks, homemade napalm.
Speaker 1: Even I E. D s multiple injuries, and then we
Speaker 1: gave up the precinct. Now the guns are out, this
Speaker 1: city can burn. I'm working on my exit plan right now.
Speaker 1: The city and state hates us and gives us no support.
Speaker 1: In fact, the leaders are actively supporting this very real insurgency.
Speaker 1: Yet all you hear in the media is that they
Speaker 1: are merely peaceful protesters. This is real. This is people
Speaker 1: need to know. This is not about race, It's about control.
Speaker 1: Share it, but don't say my name. Wow sounds familiar,
Speaker 1: signed the San Francisco Police Department. Well all you, this
Speaker 1: is a known fact. Nobody's disputing this. The police precinct
Speaker 1: closed down, boarded up, and took all their equipment out
Speaker 1: of there. That happened, and it's been taken over now.
Speaker 1: But so the chas maniacs, whether it was peaceful or not,
Speaker 1: you can't have that. You can you can't have police
Speaker 1: driven out of their precincts and saying, just you're not
Speaker 1: allowed to have a police precinct in this part of town.
Speaker 1: I guess we'll leave. Then you need not respond to
Speaker 1: law abiding, taxpaying citizens who need us desperately. How about
Speaker 1: that story, though, See you catch somebody breaking into your place,
Speaker 1: you apprehend them with a weapon. I mean, that's a
Speaker 1: heck of a deal. You're in a you're in a
Speaker 1: battle with a guy with a knife and you've got
Speaker 1: a weapon, and you apprehend him, you call the police.
Speaker 1: They don't ever show up. A mob shows up, and
Speaker 1: you're scared of them, legitimately so rightfully, so you turn
Speaker 1: the guy loose. Then the mob makes that guy give
Speaker 1: the money back because they're going to Enford. There the
Speaker 1: police force, which which we're supposed to be against, right
Speaker 1: having a police force, but they're the police force. Well,
Speaker 1: and did I hear they were gonna beat down a
Speaker 1: guy for being an arsonist. But when anybody understand what
Speaker 1: irony is, when the guy wouldn't give the money back,
Speaker 1: they beat him. Right. But that's not the kind of
Speaker 1: justice we have in America. You go to jail, that's
Speaker 1: the justice in chazz. And then there's a there's a
Speaker 1: you're you're appointed, you're appointed a lawyer if you can't
Speaker 1: afford one, and you get a trial, and then maybe
Speaker 1: you know, maybe you didn't do it right. But no,
Speaker 1: that no, this is vigilante, old timey wild West justice,
Speaker 1: and that's better than what we've had. Child molester with
Speaker 1: an A K forty seven is the judge. Okay, super
Speaker 1: how's your utopia coming along? Does this Peter Outer end violently?
Speaker 1: Your guess. We don't have much time. Seattle is such
Speaker 1: a freak show already in the city council is a
Speaker 1: bunch of gutless communists. So I say it goes on
Speaker 1: for a very very long time, really armstrong and getty