1 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:17,079 Speaker 1: The volume, what is going on. 2 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:22,759 Speaker 2: The Cincinnati Bengals stay alive, and the game was a 3 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 2: lot closer at least at the end than the game 4 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 2: we witnessed for about eighty five percent of it. The 5 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:33,200 Speaker 2: Pittsburgh Steelers lose again. You talk about a team leaking 6 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 2: serious oil. Russell Wilson mostly atrocious, but has a good 7 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:42,520 Speaker 2: drive in the middle of the fourth quarter, and then 8 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 2: who knows what the hell happened there at the end 9 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 2: of the game. We'll dive into everything because there's a 10 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 2: lot going on in that game, unlike the early game 11 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 2: that meant nothing that There is not one play beside 12 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:57,319 Speaker 2: Jay Flowers getting injured in that game that we are 13 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 2: going to discuss here. But we will talk some big 14 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 2: picture stuff when it comes to the Ravens and when 15 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:07,119 Speaker 2: it comes to the Browns in terms of this offseason. 16 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:08,680 Speaker 2: And then I think there was a story yesterday so 17 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 2: for Abel interviewed with the Jets, so we could hit 18 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 2: on that really quick as well. But obviously the headliner 19 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 2: is the Cincinnati Bengals five straight games to just give 20 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 2: their season a chance. Now two was out, so Miami 21 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:25,399 Speaker 2: could easily lose to the Jets, who Rogers could be 22 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 2: his last game, and you know, the Chiefs plane was 23 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 2: on the tarmac for hours. I just saw on social 24 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:34,479 Speaker 2: media probably within the last hour they landed in Denver. 25 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 2: Carson Wentz is playing big underdog, but who knows, I 26 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 2: mean week eighteen, she could get weird. 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Hey, I think you he got 53 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:04,359 Speaker 2: I don't know twenty five percent chance, but at least 54 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:06,359 Speaker 2: you could hold your head high. You went nine to eight. 55 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 2: I do think the story of this game, and I 56 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:14,119 Speaker 2: really think it was represented today, is like, if you're 57 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:16,920 Speaker 2: the Browns and you have this two hundred and thirty 58 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 2: million dollars Deshaun Watson problem, and you're the Steelers and 59 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:23,919 Speaker 2: you have no quarterback, how what are you supposed to 60 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 2: do against Lamar Jackson and Joe Burrow. It's it's not 61 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 2: a fair fight. I mean, tonight was honestly kind of 62 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 2: a joke. At one point in time, I think before 63 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 2: his only good drive of the game, Russell Wilson was 64 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 2: like five of twelve for fifty yards. At the same time, 65 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 2: Burrow was like thirty of thirty six for two hundred 66 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 2: and fifty yards, slinging it all around and for a 67 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 2: large portion of that. T. Higgins was on the sideline, like, 68 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 2: what are we watching? Like to me, listen, the Steelers defense, 69 00:03:57,880 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 2: that's what we do. Defensive line's great. 70 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 1: TJ. 71 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 2: Walkott banged up. Your defensive line is good, Your front 72 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 2: is awesome. You got a ton of guys that every 73 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 2: team in the league would want, and clearly one of 74 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 2: the best when he's on the field. Secondary Leak and 75 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 2: Sirius Oil linebackers not quite what they once were. But 76 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 2: your offense is a joke. And I tweeted this out 77 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 2: and I've been thinking this just watching this that game 78 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 2: play out, Like if college football, the way the committee 79 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 2: works in college football, we did that for the NFL. Right, 80 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:33,720 Speaker 2: you give a couple buys and then everyone else is 81 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 2: either picked and at large you have to like be 82 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 2: picked for a spot. The Pittsburgh Steelers would not be 83 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 2: in the playoffs this season. While once had high hopes 84 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:47,280 Speaker 2: and everyone, it wasn't that long ago when people were like, 85 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 2: are they gonna give Russell Wilson the Baker Mayfield contract? 86 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 2: Would they even want Russell Wilson back for like ten 87 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:58,359 Speaker 2: million dollars? What was that at the end of the 88 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 2: game part of Russell Wilson? At this point, you got 89 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:04,720 Speaker 2: a guy that's thirty four to thirty five years old, 90 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 2: who's been in the league forever, and you got one 91 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:11,279 Speaker 2: time out, You got a chance to drive down the field, 92 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 2: You got the best kicker this year in the NFL, 93 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:16,919 Speaker 2: and win the game, even though you look like shit 94 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:20,039 Speaker 2: the majority of it. Listen, Black and White league, you 95 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 2: win or you lose. So if you win that game 96 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:25,359 Speaker 2: twenty to nineteen, no one's gonna care how crappy you looked. 97 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 2: You win eleven games, you knock the Bengals out at home, 98 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:32,799 Speaker 2: would have been a big deal. All about results, right, 99 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 2: And he takes off on second down, maybe it was 100 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:41,479 Speaker 2: first down, and there's not much time left, they only 101 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 2: got one time out, and he just runs right into 102 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 2: the defender, and Mike tom was just looking. It's like, Mike, 103 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 2: you have to call a time out. Here. I know 104 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 2: you only got one, but he just got tackled in bounds. 105 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 2: I get it. I'm shocked too. It was one of 106 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 2: the craziest plays we've seen in weeks. Like Russell, you 107 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 2: just got to row that ball away, stop the clock, 108 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 2: but Russell takes off games basically nothing gets tackled, comes 109 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:09,600 Speaker 2: right back to the huddle, rushes, and then gets sacked. 110 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 2: That is a double whammy combination of Russell Wilson, what 111 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:16,480 Speaker 2: the hell are you doing in Mike bro you gotta 112 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:19,599 Speaker 2: stop this madness and call timeout, And neither thing happened, 113 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:22,359 Speaker 2: and it kind of just imploded, and it was a 114 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 2: tough watch. It really was like, this is how your 115 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:28,280 Speaker 2: season is gonna end. It's crazy that you're even in 116 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 2: this position. And part of it was some randomness, right 117 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 2: It took a ball hitting off the dude's foot and 118 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:37,919 Speaker 2: Hayward's brother made a great play. They got a field 119 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 2: goal out of it. Obviously, there was some madness at 120 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:43,599 Speaker 2: the end of the first half. It was like Austin fumbled, 121 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 2: then Burrow throw a pick, and then the Steelers got 122 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 2: stuffed on fourth down. That was all in like the 123 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 2: span of twenty seconds of game time. It was like, 124 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 2: this is bananas, This is wild. What is happening unless 125 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 2: this would happen sometimes in divisional games? But like does 126 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 2: anyone like this Pittsburgh Steeler team is no different than 127 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 2: all these other teams that we just keep hearing about 128 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 2: on television. Haven't made the haven't won a playoff games 129 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 2: in twenty sixteen. It's like the same thing over and 130 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 2: over and now they're clearly going nowhere like they have 131 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 2: they don't have any quarterbacks in their contract after this year. 132 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 2: They can't resign this player. You cannot resign Russell Wilson 133 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 2: to anything of value. If you want to give him 134 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 2: like five seven million dollars to be your bridge quarterback, 135 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 2: I guess you can live with that. I don't really 136 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 2: know what your options are, but think how crazy it 137 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 2: is that not that long ago that they were talking like, 138 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 2: oh yeah, give him like a three year, one hundred 139 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 2: and ten million dollar contract. You watched him against Joe Burrow. 140 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 2: Would be like going to a high school game where 141 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 2: one kid's going to like Texas or Ohio State and 142 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:47,239 Speaker 2: the other guy is just going to college to study 143 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 2: and never going to play organized football again in his life. 144 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 2: That's what it looked like tonight, and that's what the 145 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 2: offenses look like tonight because and listen to Higgins goes 146 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 2: out of the game, they're just a one man band. 147 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 2: I mean, he's just slinging it to Jim Chase over 148 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 2: and over. Rightfully, So, I mean Jamar Chase is as 149 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 2: dominant of a player as you can find in this 150 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 2: league right now, non quarterback. But this gets back to 151 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 2: the big picture, like if you're the Steelers or you're 152 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 2: the Browns, obviously the Steelers, as long as they have 153 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 2: Mike Tomlin, are just gonna have winning records because it's 154 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 2: just kind of what they do. It's kind of the 155 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 2: ethos as a franchise. Like it's no longer that impressive anymore. Okay, 156 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 2: you went ten and seven, what are you gonna be 157 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 2: assuming the Chargers win tomorrow eight point underdog next week 158 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 2: against the Ravens. Is any human being not associated with 159 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 2: the Steelers. And I don't mean Steelers fans, because most 160 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 2: Steeler fans won't expect them to win that game either. 161 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 2: I'm just saying, like anyone on television or anyone you 162 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:41,959 Speaker 2: know that talks about football, that's not like a former 163 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:45,680 Speaker 2: Steeler going to pick the Steelers, because in what world 164 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 2: would you pick the Steelers against the Ravens. They're just 165 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 2: we just saw him play a couple of weeks ago 166 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:54,200 Speaker 2: and it wasn't even a fair fight. Honestly, tonight nineteen 167 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:56,960 Speaker 2: to seven going into the fourth quarter did not feel 168 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 2: like a fair fight. And let's face it, like for 169 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 2: his fun is this Bengals story is like, they're not 170 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 2: that good. They have a unreal quarterback who honestly is 171 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 2: like this like his generation's version of Andrew Luck. They 172 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:14,959 Speaker 2: play very, very similar. They're just elite players who never 173 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 2: give up on plays and are just pure badasses. But god, 174 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 2: they take a lot of hits and sometimes you know, 175 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 2: Luck's bigger than Burrow. But that one time to night 176 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 2: when Hayward and like two other guys all hit Burrow 177 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:29,560 Speaker 2: at the same time and drove them into the ground. 178 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 2: You're like, Joe, you just gotta try to avoid some 179 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:35,320 Speaker 2: of these acts. But that's also what makes him such 180 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 2: a brilliant player. But this conversation going, should the Chiefs 181 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 2: want to want to avoid Chiefs have a by next week, 182 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:45,840 Speaker 2: the Bengals would have to play the Bills where they 183 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 2: would be I don't know, six point dog like, let's 184 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 2: not act obviously their quarterback is outstanding. Now Higgins is hurt. 185 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 2: They are not some like Juggernot team hell. On their 186 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 2: five game winning streak, they should have lost one of 187 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 2: those games we all witnessed. It was the Dallas Cowboy 188 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 2: game where the dude on special teams made a moronic 189 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 2: choice and touched the football. So let's not act like. 190 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 2: This is the Ravens, the Chiefs, the lions of the 191 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 2: Vikings right here. Excellent quarterback coaching can be a little iffy. 192 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 2: Defense definitely can be a little iffy. But they played 193 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 2: a bad team. They played a team that's gonna end 194 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 2: up Obviously, they won ten games this season. Who feels 195 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 2: more like a six or seven win team right now? 196 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 2: And this stretch of games that they've just played has 197 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 2: not been very fun to watch. Eagles game was not close, 198 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 2: Ravens game was not close. Chiefs game was by far 199 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 2: to me the ugliest, and tonight was I mean, part 200 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 2: of it was the weather. It was freezing cold. You're 201 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 2: down nineteen to seven with a quarterback throwing for sub 202 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 2: sixty five yards. Can't win like that. And there are 203 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 2: plays tonight like and I get it the way your 204 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 2: defense works. I don't pretend to be you know, Belichick here, 205 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 2: but how many times down the stretch of that football 206 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 2: game was Joey Porter Junior Like, why isn't he following 207 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:08,320 Speaker 2: once Higgins is out of the game, Like he would 208 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 2: just be on Chase the whole time. It's like, not 209 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:11,959 Speaker 2: what we do, it's not our scheme. Well it should 210 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 2: be what you do. Figure it the fuck out. How 211 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 2: do you make that part of what you do? Because 212 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 2: if it's not part of what you do, every time 213 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 2: you get number one on anyone that's not number twenty four, 214 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 2: you're at a huge disadvantage, Like you haven't covered anyone 215 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 2: in a month. I don't get it. I get Tom 216 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 2: and looks freezing cold on the sideline, But what is 217 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 2: going on? That was? That was a terrible watch. It 218 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 2: really The Steelers are a terrible watch. They're an awful watch. 219 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:42,200 Speaker 2: We watched two games a day. I get it, the famous, 220 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 2: you know, the brand, the fans. It's a cool place 221 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:49,200 Speaker 2: to watch a game be played. But I'm glad they're 222 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 2: gonna be gone next week because they're just not an 223 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 2: entertaining team at all. And really their only offense for 224 00:11:55,520 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 2: the most part, is just rustle throwing these goballs. It's 225 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:03,719 Speaker 2: not a sustainable way to play, and it's been their 226 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 2: problem now for a month as they've played better teams. 227 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 2: You watch the Bengals, their passing game is just, I 228 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 2: don't know, well rounded. They can throw every single route 229 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 2: in the route tree to their wide receivers and tight ends. 230 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 2: And for Russell Wilson, anytime he throws to these wide receivers, 231 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 2: it's just outside the numbers. 232 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 1: But it rip. 233 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:26,719 Speaker 2: It's like that's not really gonna work. I don't know 234 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:28,840 Speaker 2: how cold it was to night there, but it clearly 235 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:32,199 Speaker 2: was not warm. Like, that's not a sustainable way to play. 236 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 2: Back in their heyday when Tomlin's best teams, it's not 237 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 2: how big Ben it not saying that you can't push 238 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:41,200 Speaker 2: the ball down the field every once in a while, 239 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 2: but like that's it's not gonna work. You watch Lamar 240 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 2: Jackson and you watch Joe Burrows, like they make all 241 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:50,320 Speaker 2: the throws. You need a quick game, you know, over 242 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 2: the middle of the field, you need to roll out, 243 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 2: you want to hit a bomb, We'll do it all. 244 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:57,440 Speaker 2: I mean, that's like what I said. You watch two 245 00:12:57,480 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 2: guys if this was high school football. One guy's going 246 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 2: to Ohio State, the other guy's going to Georgia and 247 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 2: other two guys. I mean, clearly the Browns are a joke. 248 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 2: But Russell Wilson, one of the most famous players in 249 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 2: the last decade in the NFL. I mean just looks 250 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:13,320 Speaker 2: like a guy. He just looks like a guy. And 251 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:17,239 Speaker 2: it's gotten dramatically worse or less, I don't know, powerful, 252 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 2: And I would say functional as the weather is turned 253 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 2: and it got a lot colder, and they just run 254 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 2: the ball, you know, up the middle. And I think 255 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 2: the Bengals, to me, the game that I won't get 256 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 2: over if I'm a Bengal fan would be the first 257 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 2: time we played the Ravens and we had multiple double 258 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 2: digit leads in the second half. Actually, I think the 259 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 2: fourth quarter and Burrow and Chase were just men amongst 260 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 2: boys and Lamar and that Ravens team just pulled play 261 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 2: after play out of their ass. But that's got to 262 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:53,559 Speaker 2: be the game. And I think it's a long time 263 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 2: ago now, but went overtime. I remember at the time 264 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 2: it was like, this is the game of the decade. 265 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 2: I mean, it was an incredibly entertaining game, but that's 266 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 2: the game if you're a Ravens fan, Like, I don't 267 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 2: know how we lost that because I think when we're 268 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 2: discussing football tomorrow night, the Bengals won't be in the playoffs. 269 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 2: And Burrow just mentioned it right before I hopped on. 270 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 2: I watched him, I think talked to Lisa and he said, listen, 271 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 2: I mean, we put ourselves in this position, and they did. 272 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 2: Now Joe didn't put themselves in this position. The defense did. 273 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 2: But it hurts. I mean anytime you get a guy 274 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 2: like you can't like some people think should he be 275 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 2: in the MVP conversation, like you're just not going nine 276 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 2: to eight and winning the MVP. It's just not happening 277 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 2: because one, Josh Allen doesn't have one and his team's 278 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 2: the number two seed and he's dominated this season, and 279 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 2: Lamar has had like one of the great statistical seasons 280 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 2: of all time. The crazy thing with Lamar is part 281 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 2: of the reason he won it last year is one, 282 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 2: they had the best team and two, I mean, he 283 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 2: was one of the best players. But statistically, let's just 284 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 2: hypothetically say he would have win it this year as well, 285 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 2: so he would have three, he'd have two that look unreal, 286 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 2: and then he'd have last year's right, So this year 287 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 2: compared to last year, there is no comparison. He's dramatically 288 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 2: better this year now, a lot like last year. I 289 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 2: mean he plays on a team like the Ravens had 290 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 2: more Pro Bowlers than anyone in the NFL. I mean 291 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 2: that he plays for the best organization and a loaded team, 292 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 2: and he's a dominant player, just like Joe Burrow, a 293 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 2: dominant player. But you know, if you put Burrow on 294 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 2: the Ravens, I think they'd be just as good, right, 295 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 2: And if you put Lamar on the Bengals, they'd be 296 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 2: just like. Those guys are elite, they're all time great 297 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 2: players like that, they're gonna go down. I know one 298 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 2: Gully has multiple MVPs. Burrow, he's not gonna win the 299 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 2: MVP this year, but he's an MVP level player, and 300 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 2: he's already taken a team to Super Bowl. Like they're superstars, 301 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 2: and they're just absolute rock stars. And when they play 302 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 2: teams that don't have anything close to their equals, it's 303 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 2: not gonna be a fair fight, especially in must win games, 304 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 2: as it was tonight for Cincinnati and as it was 305 00:15:56,760 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 2: tonight for Baltimore. But I just I think like, if 306 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 2: you're a Pittsburgh Steeler fan and we lose next week 307 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 2: to the Ravens, it's like, oh, we just gonna keep 308 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 2: doing this over and over and just and I said 309 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 2: this last year, and there's nothing wrong with this, Like 310 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 2: sometimes it's just time for a change. Not all divorce 311 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 2: has to be like super anger and hatred. Sometimes like yeah, 312 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 2: we're just we're both better off going our separate ways. 313 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 2: And like, listen, I understand why Mike Tomlin likes being 314 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 2: the coach of the Pittsburgh Steelers. It's pretty cool, pays well, 315 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 2: sweet brand. It's just not really working. I mean, it 316 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 2: clearly has run its course because the same thing's happening 317 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 2: now has happened last year, as the previous year. As 318 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 2: the previous year. You're gonna be zero to five now 319 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 2: since twenty sixteen when next week, you know, comes to 320 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 2: an end. So he his value is extremely high because 321 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 2: all we hear is all these teams are looking for 322 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 2: a leader of men. Mike Vrabel is gonna interview with 323 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 2: everybody and have his pick at a job. He is 324 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 2: easily the number one candidate. You're even over Ben Johnson. 325 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 2: If Mike Tomlin's like yeah, him in the Pittsburgh Steelers, 326 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:07,120 Speaker 2: like it would be the same thing. And I just wonder, 327 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:09,359 Speaker 2: if you're a Pittsburgh Steeler fan, like, what are we 328 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 2: doing here? Like, what are we doing here? Because we've 329 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 2: got two teams in our division that have two Hall 330 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:18,640 Speaker 2: of Fame quarterbacks who are in the peak of their powers. 331 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:22,920 Speaker 2: I just I don't know, And there's no good answer 332 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:26,479 Speaker 2: because if I was a Steeler fan, and especially if 333 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:28,200 Speaker 2: you've been watching this team for a couple decades, you 334 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 2: got used to watching Roethlisberger, and what we've had to 335 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 2: witness these last four or five years, I couldn't take it. 336 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 2: We need to change, something has to change. Find a 337 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:41,119 Speaker 2: way to get us a quarterback, find a way to 338 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 2: change our fucking offense, because that's just you got no 339 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 2: shot in any of these big games against any of 340 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 2: these good teams. You literally lose them all. Jalen Hurts, 341 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:58,120 Speaker 2: El Lamar Jackson, El Patrick Mahomes, l Joe Burrow, Ell 342 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson again, L I mean, one, two, three, can't 343 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 2: coon and uh and yeah, but what what a what 344 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:08,640 Speaker 2: a Banana's game? 345 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:09,199 Speaker 1: That was? 346 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:12,400 Speaker 2: I give it like a seven and a half out 347 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 2: of ten, just because there was a felt like there 348 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 2: was a decent amount on the line. I guess can't 349 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:24,200 Speaker 2: be said for the other game that just felt completely one. 350 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:26,919 Speaker 2: I turned it on like ten minutes late and I 351 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:30,359 Speaker 2: was already seven to nothing. Bailey Zappi had thrown a pick, 352 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 2: and then you just like watch for a minute. Somehow 353 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 2: like DTR came in. You're like, did they bench Zappi? 354 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 2: And then you realize they're going on like a rotation 355 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:41,120 Speaker 2: a Zapi and DTR And it got to like fourteen three, 356 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 2: then it was twenty one to three, and I'm like, 357 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:46,400 Speaker 2: this is this is stupid. I mean, there's a standalone game. 358 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 2: It's no one's fault because the Browns were a playoff 359 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:51,119 Speaker 2: team last year, so I listen, you never know how 360 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:54,160 Speaker 2: things are gonna play out, but they're horrendous football team 361 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 2: right now. And that game, I mean, it got to 362 00:18:57,160 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 2: twenty one to ten. But there wasn't a soul in America, 363 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:05,880 Speaker 2: including Stefanski, including Miles Garrett, including Browns fans, that ever 364 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 2: thought for one second that the game was going to 365 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 2: be close, let alone they could win. And then luckily 366 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:14,639 Speaker 2: as the second half went on, it was complete bloodbath. 367 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:17,920 Speaker 2: But there's nothing to say from the game. To me, 368 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 2: the only substantial thing to come out of that game 369 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 2: was Zay Flowers getting injured, who has become an excellent 370 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 2: player in his second year. And listen, this football. The 371 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 2: Ravens had to win to win the division at least 372 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 2: secure the division, so they didn't have to wait for 373 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:39,439 Speaker 2: the Steeler game, and they're playing their guys like that. 374 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:42,399 Speaker 2: I'm not saying anything's wrong with playing Ze Flowers in 375 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:45,199 Speaker 2: that spot, but that's exactly why these teams that have 376 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 2: nothing to play for II, the Eagles, Sakuon Barkley's not 377 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:51,919 Speaker 2: playing the Rams, why their guys aren't playing. Like, when 378 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:55,680 Speaker 2: you're guaranteed a home game, seeding, whatever, you cannot risk 379 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 2: someone getting injured because obviously some injuries are very obvious. 380 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:02,239 Speaker 2: When Zay Flowers rolled around, You're like, I didn't even 381 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 2: see him get hurt, and now he's got a knee 382 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 2: injury and rap sheets reporting that he's probably out for 383 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:10,920 Speaker 2: next week. And again, this is not the Raven's fault. 384 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:13,919 Speaker 2: But when I've heard some of the discourse and discussion 385 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 2: around Saquon Barkley, I wanted to fucking throw up because 386 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 2: it's so stupid. It's like under no circumstances. He already 387 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 2: got the record. You know what the record is stealing 388 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:27,119 Speaker 2: him from the Giants rooting their franchise, him going for 389 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 2: two K and this team winning the division and hosting 390 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:34,879 Speaker 2: a playoff game. That's something that no human being. The 391 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 2: fall of sports is, specifically football, we'll ever forget. No 392 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 2: one knows any numbers in football. Forty five touchdowns, fifty touchdowns, 393 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:46,639 Speaker 2: two thousand yards, twenty three hundred, No we know the 394 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:48,920 Speaker 2: only rushing number you know, you don't know specific you 395 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:53,360 Speaker 2: know two thousand yards. He did it. Can't play him. 396 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:57,639 Speaker 2: So I have not understood anyone saying like you should 397 00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:01,879 Speaker 2: do it and risk someone hurting the knee or rolling 398 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 2: an ankle and not being able to go the following 399 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 2: week in the game that actually matters. Come on, guess 400 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 2: there is way too much on the line to even 401 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:13,359 Speaker 2: have these discussions. You see in a game like the 402 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 2: Ravens were gonna beat the shit out of the Browns, 403 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:17,880 Speaker 2: but you still gotta try, and you're still playing your starters. 404 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 2: All of a sudden, one of your best players hurts 405 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:24,440 Speaker 2: his knee and now, fingers crossed he can come back 406 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 2: in two weeks. When one of the best games of 407 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 2: the year against the Bills on the road, where guess what, 408 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:32,399 Speaker 2: they kind of need the guy. So I just think 409 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:36,920 Speaker 2: the discussion this week about guys resting is laughable. This 410 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 2: isn't the NBA where guys rest every other day, right, 411 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:44,359 Speaker 2: There's really one time a year when guys maybe rest. 412 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 2: In the NFL, when your playoff situation is secure, the 413 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:53,399 Speaker 2: Eagles can't change anything, The game literally does not matter 414 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 2: at all. That's when you rest, guys. And I'm not 415 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:07,879 Speaker 2: gonna there's nothing I'll say on that. 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Slash promos for additional terms 444 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:36,159 Speaker 4: and responsible gaming resources. 445 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 2: I do think big picture with the with the Ravens 446 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:49,120 Speaker 2: is you know it's gonna be a lot harder this year. 447 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 2: Last year it didn't get any better. Right, their defense 448 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 2: was even better now Henry wasn't there, so their offense 449 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 2: is better this year. Will that includes a Flags who's 450 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:04,120 Speaker 2: now gone, which hurts. But Bateman looks excellent. Mark Andrew's dead. 451 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 2: Derrick Henry when DaCosta told him that he made the 452 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 2: Pro Bowl, like barely even smiled. It was awesome. But 453 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:15,360 Speaker 2: I just think like if they are, if you tell 454 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 2: me the Ravens are in the super Bowl, it actually 455 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:21,679 Speaker 2: would have been more impressive this year than if they 456 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:23,719 Speaker 2: would have made the Super Bowl last year. Just in 457 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:26,200 Speaker 2: terms with one, they have to go on the road. 458 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 2: They're gonna get the Pittsburgh Steelers, I think more likely, 459 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:33,639 Speaker 2: assuming the Chargers win Game one, I would expect them 460 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:35,639 Speaker 2: to win that game by twenty plus points. I know, 461 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 2: it's like a rival really know each other. I think 462 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:40,360 Speaker 2: they beat the shit out of them. Then they got 463 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 2: to go to Buffalo, and then obviously they'd probably have 464 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 2: to go to Kansas City unless one of the bigger 465 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,879 Speaker 2: upsets in recent memory happens. So if you were to 466 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 2: go to at Buffalo and at Kansas City and win 467 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 2: those two games, it would be the feather in the 468 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 2: cap of Lamar's greatest season as a pro and it's 469 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 2: gonna be hard. I mean, really that game thinking two 470 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 2: weeks on the road in Buffalo now, especially with Jay 471 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 2: flowers physical ability up in the air, is it's gonna 472 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:13,879 Speaker 2: be really, really tough. And you know, the thing with 473 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 2: Lamar is he just looks fair. I mean, he's just 474 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 2: he's toying with people. I mean today he had the 475 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:23,119 Speaker 2: Steph Curry moment on the touchdown where he turned around 476 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:25,679 Speaker 2: before the ball was even in his hands. It's like 477 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:28,440 Speaker 2: the game looks really easy to him, and I get it. 478 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 2: The Browns, I mean, are just a god awful team. 479 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 2: But if that guy that has played like he did 480 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 2: this regular season translates to the playoffs, they can beat anybody. 481 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:42,879 Speaker 2: They can beat anybody, and honestly, they probably should if 482 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:45,679 Speaker 2: their defense plays pretty good, because you could argue that 483 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 2: is the best him and Josh Allen two best players 484 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 2: on the planet. Bro too, but Burl not gonna be 485 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:54,199 Speaker 2: around and unlike Burrow, like his team's really good. You know, 486 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:58,640 Speaker 2: their defense looks dramatically better now, like that was part 487 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:00,439 Speaker 2: of the first half of the seasons, like this defense 488 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 2: is just this ain't gonna work out. And then ever 489 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 2: since they moved Hamilton back, they just looked much better. 490 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 2: So if their defense plays in an elite level and he 491 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:11,439 Speaker 2: plays like they play like, you could argue they're the 492 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:15,199 Speaker 2: most well rounded team. Now, this Chiefs team, whose offense 493 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 2: looked pretty shitty most of the year, is clearly gain 494 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:21,680 Speaker 2: steam these last couple of weeks. But they're taking tomorrow 495 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 2: off and then they get a bye week so that 496 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 2: they have a long period where you know, who knows 497 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 2: that they probably I would guess, you know, get the 498 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 2: Chargers of the Texans and that's a game where they'll 499 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 2: probably win by ten plus points. But I guess the 500 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 2: Charger game could be a little weird. But I I'm 501 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 2: I'm really interested though. I mean, it's got to be 502 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 2: one of the biggest stories going in the playoffs, Like 503 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:48,399 Speaker 2: can Lamar finally take the way he plays in the 504 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:52,160 Speaker 2: regular season just to the playoffs and if he doesn't loses, 505 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 2: you tip your hat. Josh Allen's done that a lot 506 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:58,160 Speaker 2: played a great game and lost, You tip your hat 507 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:00,920 Speaker 2: and no one says anything. And some of these NBA 508 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,359 Speaker 2: guys like James Harden has gotten crushed over the years, 509 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 2: like will you win the MVP? You're scoring forty points 510 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 2: a game, and then you get to the playoffs and 511 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 2: you look like shit, like, what's going on? What's happening? 512 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:14,359 Speaker 2: Is it? Do you feel their pressure? Do you feel 513 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,359 Speaker 2: the lights a little brighter? We all know it means 514 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 2: more because it does. It just simply does. And players 515 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,720 Speaker 2: know that, coaches know that, fans know that. Everyone in 516 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:25,879 Speaker 2: the building of a playoff game you're at knows that. 517 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:28,200 Speaker 2: And that's what makes it stuff so fun. That's what 518 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 2: makes these next month the reason thirty forty to fifty 519 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 2: million people watch these games. I'm not even talking Super Bowl. 520 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:35,920 Speaker 2: I'm talking the big playoff games. I mean you're talking 521 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 2: thirty thirty five forty million people are watching this thing. 522 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:43,439 Speaker 2: Why for all the marbles? It's for everything. And he 523 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 2: clearly is just an all time great talent and has 524 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,359 Speaker 2: become what looks like to be an all time great player. 525 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 2: And now he only has one question left answer like 526 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,360 Speaker 2: just do it for a couple of games in January 527 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 2: and now mainly three. But next week I think he 528 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,119 Speaker 2: could play like Tyus arm behind his back and they 529 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 2: beat the Steelers. I think what the Browns is They're 530 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:11,200 Speaker 2: in this situation At three and fourteen, I saw basically 531 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 2: the Browns, the Patriots, and maybe it was the Giants, 532 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:22,200 Speaker 2: the Titans and the Patriots. Now I'm fucking this up. 533 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,480 Speaker 2: It's definitely the Titans and the Patriots in one other 534 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 2: team are guaranteed a top three pick. So I'm sure 535 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 2: the Browns would love for the Patriots to win. They 536 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 2: would love for the Titans to win, but they've had 537 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 2: the season from hell. The problem for their season from 538 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 2: Hell is like part of the reason they're in this 539 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 2: scenario is because they have Deshaun Watson on a two 540 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 2: hundred and thirty million dollar contract and now is Achilles ripped, 541 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 2: and they're just kind of stuck with him. They can't 542 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 2: cut him, they can't trade them obviously ideally they wouldn't 543 00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 2: even want to play him ever. Again, just stuck in 544 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 2: this situation. And that's why the big offseason question mark 545 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 2: with the Browns is are they going to trade Miles Garrett? 546 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 2: If I was a Browns fan and we got this 547 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 2: all time great talent, number one overall draft pick who 548 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 2: has just lived up to the billing Pro Bowl every 549 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:21,920 Speaker 2: single year, All Pro every single year last year, Defensive 550 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 2: Player of the Year this year, like fourteen to fifteen 551 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 2: sacks on just a god awful team who's down in 552 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 2: every game, just a dominant elite player, and we even 553 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 2: have to ask the question, It's like, are we gonna 554 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 2: trade him? Because you know, we might as well twenty 555 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 2: nine sell high at this point in time because we're 556 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 2: so screwed because of Deshaun Watson. I would be so mad. 557 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 2: I'd be like, you've got to be fucking kidding me. 558 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 2: This is all, like this conversation is all because of 559 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 2: the Deshaun Watson transaction, all because of him. If they 560 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 2: just had a normal quarterback who's fine, they would just 561 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:02,120 Speaker 2: extend Miles Garrett and keep rocking and wroll. But instead, 562 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 2: I mean, the prudent move at this point in time, 563 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 2: given how screwed the franchise is, probably is to trade 564 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 2: him to someone. Ideally. I know he's a little older, 565 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 2: but I think at minimum you would get a one 566 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 2: in two twos. I think you could probably get two 567 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,480 Speaker 2: ones for him, and that team would then give him 568 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 2: you know, four year, one hundred and thirty million dollar 569 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 2: extension or whatever. I don't know numbers, probably more than that, 570 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 2: you know, thirty million dollars a year, four times three, yeah, 571 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 2: one hundred and forty million dollars and guarantee one hundred 572 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 2: and ten or something. And that you're even having this 573 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 2: conversation is because of the Watson situation. And I would 574 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 2: expect when he goes on the trading block around the 575 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 2: Combine that more than half the league is going to 576 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:51,960 Speaker 2: be sniffing around a player of this ability, And given 577 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 2: their situation, I would expect him to be traded this offseason. 578 00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:58,959 Speaker 2: And that sucks, you know, for like, as shitty as 579 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 2: the Steelers feel right now, it's like, yeah, we're just 580 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 2: the same thing over and over. Like at least we 581 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 2: got TJ. Watt and as long as TJ. Wat's good, 582 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 2: we know he's not going anywhere. He's our guy. And 583 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 2: you just go, like Chris Jones remember a couple of 584 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 2: years ago, is like, yeah, we'll figure it out, and they 585 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 2: ended up getting rid of Tyre Kill. Chris Jones our guy, 586 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 2: and they keep winning super Bowls with that guy. Now 587 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 2: I understand you're not. You just won three games, but 588 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 2: it's like, at least, like we have this all time 589 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 2: great pass rusher and we're just gonna trade him this offseason. Okay, 590 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 2: we don't really have a choice because our team is 591 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 2: so financially screwed because we traded for one of the 592 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 2: biggest red flags in the history of football. And I 593 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 2: feel for Browns fans that had to watch this. I 594 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,920 Speaker 2: you know, I can't even believe that. But did Mike 595 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 2: Vrabel throughout the season like stayed with that job? If 596 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 2: I was verable after like three weeks, I've been like, ah, 597 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 2: I'm probably just gonna quit. I'm just I'm just gonna 598 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 2: start getting ready somewhere else. But you know, they have 599 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 2: a great fan base when the team is good, with 600 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 2: that home field in Ohio's badass, everyone hitting, you know, 601 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 2: the ten sides. But man, I felt like that felt 602 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 2: like the Jimmy Haslin Browns this year. Now, luckily they 603 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 2: got a smart GM and they got a good head coach, 604 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 2: but it's gonna be a long and nasty offseason. A 605 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,240 Speaker 2: couple other things before we get out of here. You know, 606 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 2: I was adamant that Rex Ryan would be the next 607 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 2: head coach of the Jets. I'm not feeling as confident, 608 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:28,240 Speaker 2: like I wouldn't bet like a thousand dollars on it 609 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:31,240 Speaker 2: right now, but he did, or he set to interview 610 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 2: next week. I do think he's gonna have a decent 611 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:38,240 Speaker 2: chance when you just look at the guys who were interviewing. Now, 612 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 2: if Mike Vrabel would take the job, they would hire 613 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 2: him yesterday. So like, Mike Vrabel is going to be 614 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 2: such a curveball in all these interviews. And he got 615 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:49,640 Speaker 2: out of the Browns contract early last week so he 616 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 2: could started interviewing any immediately interviews with the Jets, and 617 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,480 Speaker 2: a lot of people started saying, like, do you think 618 00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,720 Speaker 2: that he did this on purpose? As like a red 619 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:03,600 Speaker 2: flashing bat signal to the Patriots, like, hey man, I'm 620 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:05,840 Speaker 2: ready to do this. You want to dance, let's dance, 621 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:09,120 Speaker 2: Like you gotta fire your guy because he you know, 622 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:10,719 Speaker 2: he's put out a list of his demands and one 623 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 2: of them is a quarterback or a path to get 624 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,800 Speaker 2: a quarterback. Well, they just drafted a guy number three 625 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:18,959 Speaker 2: overall who you've probably heard this other places, but if 626 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:22,880 Speaker 2: Drake may was in this draft, he would easily be 627 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:26,080 Speaker 2: the number one overall pick. It wouldn't even be a conversation. 628 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,880 Speaker 2: So and obviously, if you've just watched bits and pieces 629 00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:31,760 Speaker 2: of him, he's clearly a really talented guy. The team 630 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:36,120 Speaker 2: blows and I just have to imagine that the Patriots 631 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 2: would be a fascinating you know, of interest for Vrabel 632 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 2: because like the Jets, like, Okay, they got some talent, 633 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 2: but they got no quarterback and they got no path 634 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:48,400 Speaker 2: to a quarterback, and the franchise is just a disaster. 635 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 2: Like why would he want to take on that situation? 636 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 2: You know, the Patriots actually kind of perfect if they 637 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:57,720 Speaker 2: do fire Mayo. That's like you're not the guy replacing 638 00:33:57,720 --> 00:33:59,760 Speaker 2: the guy. You're the guy replacing the guy that replaced 639 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 2: the guy who was such an embarrassment that you look 640 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:06,320 Speaker 2: even that much better. So like that's something to keep 641 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:08,239 Speaker 2: an eye on. Now, who knows, Like obviously the big 642 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:11,880 Speaker 2: wildcards are like are Vrabel or excuse me, are Mayo 643 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:15,560 Speaker 2: and Antonio Pierce going to be one and Done's we'll 644 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:17,319 Speaker 2: find out a lot more about that in the next 645 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 2: I don't know, thirty plus hours, but Rex Ryan's officially 646 00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:26,759 Speaker 2: interviewing for the Jets and Mike Vrabel already has. Other 647 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 2: than that, hopefully everyone's having a good good night, good 648 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 2: New Year's. It's weeks just weird, you know, I know, 649 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:35,440 Speaker 2: I've been sick as a dog, but you just kind 650 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:37,239 Speaker 2: of sit around, try to figure out what day it 651 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:40,759 Speaker 2: is like, what am I gonna do today? You're like, oh, wait, 652 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,719 Speaker 2: Today's Thursday, even though every day for the last like 653 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:47,600 Speaker 2: two weeks kind of felt like a Saturday. And I'm 654 00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 2: just I'm ready. I'm ready for it to be over. 655 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:54,279 Speaker 2: Just I'm like kind of a creature of habit and 656 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:57,000 Speaker 2: anytime during this stretch. And part of it is there's 657 00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:00,360 Speaker 2: a randomness based on the calendar. When holidays fall in 658 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,880 Speaker 2: the middle of the week. I do think it throws 659 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:07,879 Speaker 2: everyone off kilter. I was extremely thrown off, and then 660 00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,120 Speaker 2: I got sick as a dog. My neighbors are sick, 661 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:12,359 Speaker 2: and I was like, you know, if I'm gonna be sick, 662 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:14,360 Speaker 2: I might as well just be this this week because 663 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:17,600 Speaker 2: it's just it feels really really bizarre. And then you 664 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,320 Speaker 2: turn on the TV and it's like Buffalo against Texas 665 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:23,600 Speaker 2: State at like nine in the morning. I guess is 666 00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:25,840 Speaker 2: that time of year? Man? And then you got to 667 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:30,040 Speaker 2: watch Bailey's Appy. So thank god the playoffs are almost here, 668 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:34,000 Speaker 2: because this is going to be Sunday, a long, long 669 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:37,839 Speaker 2: day of just pure randomness. You're like, this guy's still 670 00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,880 Speaker 2: in league. Wait, who's this guy? A lot of Jimmy 671 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,160 Speaker 2: Garoppolo and Carson Wentz tomorrow, so buckle up 672 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:47,440 Speaker 3: The volume