WEBVTT - Episode 1 - Murder Beach

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<v Speaker 1>My name is Danny Smith.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a detective with Miramar Police Department. I am conducting

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<v Speaker 2>an investigation going back almost forty years in the murder

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<v Speaker 2>of Billy Hopper.

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<v Speaker 3>Back in the nineteen eighties, I was starting a career

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<v Speaker 3>in law enforcement in Browie County, Florida, a native New

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<v Speaker 3>Yorker transplanted to the home of vacation meccas like Fort Lauderdale, Pompino,

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<v Speaker 3>and Hollywood Beach. What the South Florida I remember was

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<v Speaker 3>a place of stark contrasts. The beaches, palm trees, the

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<v Speaker 3>frozen drinks. They all seem to mask a darker side

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<v Speaker 3>of the Sunshine State, one of crime, greed, and a

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<v Speaker 3>creeping sense of desperation. There was just something about Florida

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<v Speaker 3>that could make good people get themselves into bad situations.

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<v Speaker 3>After years in law enforcement, I ended up swapping my

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<v Speaker 3>badging gun for a journalist's pen and pad and headed

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<v Speaker 3>back to New York to report on crimes, not solve them.

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<v Speaker 3>But in twenty twenty two, a unique opportunity brought me

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<v Speaker 3>back to the streets of South Florida to join cold

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<v Speaker 3>case detective Danny Smith as he began an incredible journey

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<v Speaker 3>to solve a forty year old murder, actually as many

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<v Speaker 3>as five of them together. We were looking for new evidence,

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<v Speaker 3>new suspects, and the truth behind the murder of a

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<v Speaker 3>twenty eight year old firefighter named Billy Halpern, all of

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<v Speaker 3>it documented in real time. I'm Scott Weinberger, investigative journalist

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<v Speaker 3>and former deputy sheriff, and this is cold blooded the

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<v Speaker 3>Apollo Jim murders. Shortly after six point thirty on October

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<v Speaker 3>twenty first, nineteen eighty six, police in Miramar, Florida responded

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<v Speaker 3>to the sixty nine hundred block of fortieth Street, a

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<v Speaker 3>residential neighborhood of condos and town homes in the center

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<v Speaker 3>of Miramar and about a twenty minute drive to the beach.

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<v Speaker 3>That flood of emergency vehicles prompted by a nine to

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<v Speaker 3>one one call by twenty four year old Jones Socio

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<v Speaker 3>moments after walking in to a horrifying scene finding her boyfriend,

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<v Speaker 3>twenty eight year old Billy Halpern, half dressed, lying face

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<v Speaker 3>up in the bedroom in a pool of his own blood.

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<v Speaker 3>So is this his community right here?

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<v Speaker 1>This is it?

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<v Speaker 2>This is woodscape and it's essentially a big circle that

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<v Speaker 2>kind of Meander's back off the main circle. They're like

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<v Speaker 2>town homes, but they're really right on top of one another.

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<v Speaker 3>In November of twenty twenty two, nearly forty years after

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<v Speaker 3>the murder, I returned to the same location with Miramar

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<v Speaker 3>Police homicide Detective Danny Smith.

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<v Speaker 2>You look at the limited crime scene photos that I

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<v Speaker 2>was actually able to get from the file. They always

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<v Speaker 2>look you know, photos from the outside always make the

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<v Speaker 2>place look so much bigger, and then I'm always surprised

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<v Speaker 2>at how small some of these homes are when I

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<v Speaker 2>actually get there.

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<v Speaker 3>Aside from a few potted plants and a threadbare welcome

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<v Speaker 3>mat in front of the front door, it looked just

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<v Speaker 3>like it did from the photographs in the decades old

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<v Speaker 3>police file Danny had dug out of storage. Was this

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<v Speaker 3>her house or did he live here?

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<v Speaker 2>This was his house and she had been living here,

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<v Speaker 2>I remember correctly, three years with him, And I remember

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<v Speaker 2>reading that she was screaming when she found his body

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<v Speaker 2>and the neighbors came over, and in my mind I

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<v Speaker 2>was thinking they must have just been like outside already

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<v Speaker 2>and they heard it. But now seeing how close these

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<v Speaker 2>homes are together, that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 3>I lived in a complex like this in pember Pines.

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<v Speaker 3>It was very similar to this, and yeah, you hear

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<v Speaker 3>the neighbors, you hear it, you can hear through the walls.

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<v Speaker 3>I had seen the crime scene photos, so I could

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<v Speaker 3>imagine what the uniformed officers must have observed when they

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<v Speaker 3>stepped through the door. The blood pooling from around the

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<v Speaker 3>victim's head, a blood stained towel pressed to his neck,

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<v Speaker 3>and the black electrical tape still wrapped around each of

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<v Speaker 3>his wrists. Another thing they would have quickly noticed. The

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<v Speaker 3>man on the floor was big, six foot two with

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<v Speaker 3>the bodybuilders for zeke is enormous muscles on full display

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<v Speaker 3>even hours after his death. Another thought when I saw

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<v Speaker 3>the crime scene photos was that was a lot of blood.

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<v Speaker 3>My next thought, there is no way one person could

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<v Speaker 3>have overpowered this guy. He was huge. Now do you

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<v Speaker 3>think it's a little unusual when you hear about the

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<v Speaker 3>fact that he was covered by a blanket? I know

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<v Speaker 3>in cases that I've covered sometimes when the victim and

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<v Speaker 3>a homicide, especially their face is covered, there's a psychological

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<v Speaker 3>reason around that. Sometimes the killer it makes us as

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<v Speaker 3>the investigator think maybe there was some connection between the killer,

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<v Speaker 3>the suspect, and the victim and they don't want to

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<v Speaker 3>see the results of what their.

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<v Speaker 2>Actions, right, Yeah, that's common. I would say that if

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<v Speaker 2>his neck being covered by the actual suspect or suspects,

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<v Speaker 2>that tells me a lot in terms of psychology. But

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<v Speaker 2>I believe he was covered by his girlfriend.

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<v Speaker 3>Because of the tremendous amount of blood that comes.

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<v Speaker 2>Because of the blood and the injury itself was one

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<v Speaker 2>of the more gruesome throat injuries that I've ever seen.

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<v Speaker 3>To first responders of the scene, the cause of Billy's

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<v Speaker 3>death appeared to be obvious the severe wound on Billy's

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<v Speaker 3>throat that was deep and jaggered and ran nearly from

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<v Speaker 3>ear to ear. It seemed that Billy died from a

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<v Speaker 3>sudden and dramatic loss of blood caused by an unknown

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<v Speaker 3>sharp object.

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<v Speaker 2>There were multiple cuts, so it seemed like they were

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<v Speaker 2>maybe trying to cut his head off. They were trying

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<v Speaker 2>to decapitate him.

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<v Speaker 3>Detectives from the Briar County Sheriff's Office Crime scene Unit

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<v Speaker 3>were quickly dispatched to the address and began processing the scene,

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<v Speaker 3>and notes from the original incident report detailed what investigators

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<v Speaker 3>did and did not find at the crime scene. Most Importantly,

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<v Speaker 3>they recovered no murder weapon, no fingerprints, no signs of

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<v Speaker 3>forced entry, and, according to neighbors, no witnesses, all of

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<v Speaker 3>which posed serious challenges to figure out the motive behind

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<v Speaker 3>the attack. Was it a robbery, a dispute with a neighbor,

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<v Speaker 3>or something more sinister.

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<v Speaker 2>There was mentioned in the lead detective Belrose's report about

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<v Speaker 2>home invasion crews that were hitting people. There's also mention

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<v Speaker 2>that he had a safe in the house.

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<v Speaker 3>According to his girlfriend Joan, Billy made his living buying

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<v Speaker 3>and selling art and rare coins, which he kept in

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<v Speaker 3>a safe inside the town home. But that's safe was

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<v Speaker 3>now empty. So initially, robbery was suspected to be the

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<v Speaker 3>motive for the break in, a robbery that must have

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<v Speaker 3>quickly gone south and ended in murder. It was a

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<v Speaker 3>theory that seemed to be supported by a tip that

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<v Speaker 3>came into the Sheriff's office back in nineteen eighty six

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<v Speaker 3>from a local confidential informant.

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<v Speaker 2>And that was the tip that I actually read was

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<v Speaker 2>someone he called in and said that whoever they mentioned

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<v Speaker 2>was bragging that they had the safe. They tried to

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<v Speaker 2>torch it open and they ended up ruining all the contents.

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<v Speaker 3>But there was also evidence that this broad daylight break

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<v Speaker 3>in may not be the work of total strangers.

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<v Speaker 2>The front door was unlocked. When Halpern's living girlfriend showed

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<v Speaker 2>up and actually discovered his body, she made note that

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<v Speaker 2>that front door was unlocked, and she said that never happens.

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<v Speaker 2>He was steadfast and always making sure that front door

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<v Speaker 2>was locked and secured. So the fact that the front

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<v Speaker 2>door was unlocked, no signs of a struggle. All of

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<v Speaker 2>those facts right there tell me more than one person.

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<v Speaker 2>Probably they knew him, guy let him in, and they

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<v Speaker 2>brought gloves, and they brought tape.

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<v Speaker 3>So maybe Billy Halpern knew the men robbing him, and

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<v Speaker 3>maybe his killer's motive was to get their hands on

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<v Speaker 3>the car in tents of that safe. But the matter

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<v Speaker 3>in which Billy was killed, even to investigators back in

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<v Speaker 3>nineteen eighty six, seemed to deliberate, too professional for a

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<v Speaker 3>boxed home invasion. For one thing, there was very little

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<v Speaker 3>evidence of a big struggle, and just looking at Billy,

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<v Speaker 3>you just know he wouldn't have gone down without a fight.

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<v Speaker 2>Even more interesting that I found when I read through

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<v Speaker 2>the autopsy report was that actually the cause of death

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<v Speaker 2>was not the massive cut. It was strangulation or some

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<v Speaker 2>kind of suffocation or something something along those lines. And

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<v Speaker 2>they had actually were noted in their report that they

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<v Speaker 2>likened the marks on his neck to be something like

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<v Speaker 2>a thick nylon strap or a dog collar or something

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<v Speaker 2>in that regard. So the massive injury that is really

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<v Speaker 2>shocking to anyone that first sees it, especially his girlfriend

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<v Speaker 2>finding him, was all post mortem.

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<v Speaker 3>Billy's face had showed evidence of a brutal beating, yet

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<v Speaker 3>his hands and arms showed no defensive wounds. Taken together,

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<v Speaker 3>it didn't look like a typical botched home invasion. It

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<v Speaker 3>looked a lot more like torture. In fact, it looked

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<v Speaker 3>like an execution.

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<v Speaker 2>They're trying to decapitate him, post wartim, postmartum.

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<v Speaker 3>Everything was postmatch, which is a whole different psychology, a.

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<v Speaker 2>Whole different thing. I don't know if that was a

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<v Speaker 2>trophy for someone, or somebody watched Scarface too many times

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<v Speaker 2>and said, bring me his head.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>These days. Billy's sister, Laurie, lives in Fort Lauderdale, but

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<v Speaker 3>in October of nineteen eighty six, she lived with her

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<v Speaker 3>parents in Pembroke Pines, just a couple of blocks away

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<v Speaker 3>from her big brother. She can still remember the moment

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<v Speaker 3>she got the news of Billy's murder.

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<v Speaker 4>It's been such a long time again, I can still

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<v Speaker 4>hear that phone ring, you know, like my mom's screaming Billy,

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<v Speaker 4>Billy's dead, and I'm like.

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<v Speaker 5>What do you mean. She jumped up and ran out

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<v Speaker 5>the door. Come out, we gotta go.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm pulling up to that driveway and all the rescue

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<v Speaker 4>and everybody there. It was real for that one moment,

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<v Speaker 4>you say, no, can't be true, and then my whole

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<v Speaker 4>world crumbled.

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<v Speaker 3>When Danny and I visited Laurie in twenty twenty two,

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<v Speaker 3>she showed us pictures of Billy. In a lot of them,

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<v Speaker 3>Billy is shirtless or in swim trunks at the beach.

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<v Speaker 3>Sometimes he's holding a surfboard or barbells. There's one of

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<v Speaker 3>him in his firefighter's uniform and another of him hoisting

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<v Speaker 3>a bodybuilder's trophy. In nearly every picture, he's got the

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<v Speaker 3>smile of a guy in on the joke, well aware

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<v Speaker 3>that he was uncommonly blessed with the body and good

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<v Speaker 3>looks of a Greek god. Laurie is petite with long

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<v Speaker 3>blonde hair, but I could still see the resemblance between

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<v Speaker 3>brother and sister, the kindness in their eyes, and maybe

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<v Speaker 3>just a bit of mischief.

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<v Speaker 4>He was good looking, he was funny. Everyone liked him.

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<v Speaker 4>She's a shame, you know that they took him from mcphurmath.

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<v Speaker 3>Dave Aasano, who also grew up in Hollywood Beach, was

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<v Speaker 3>one of Billy's old bodybuilding buddies.

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<v Speaker 6>He was one of the nicest people ever. I mean,

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<v Speaker 6>he'd give you the shirt off his back. And he

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<v Speaker 6>was handsome, and he had charisma. He was good looking,

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<v Speaker 6>he was built. He was just a nice, humble guy.

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<v Speaker 3>According to Dave, Billy was idolized by the younger guys

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<v Speaker 3>at the gym.

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<v Speaker 6>I want to know, how do you get big arms

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<v Speaker 6>like that? And he tell us what to eat and

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<v Speaker 6>how to work out. And he had beautiful green eyes

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<v Speaker 6>with dark hair. Just imagine tan green eyes, dark hair

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<v Speaker 6>and bill, you know, like a Greek guy.

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<v Speaker 3>Billy's popularity just added to the shock of his brutal murder.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, who kills a god? But Laurie still has

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<v Speaker 3>an idea of who she thinks killed a brother. In fact,

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of people do.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't think it was one person. Involved.

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<v Speaker 4>Billy was too strong for one person to take him down.

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<v Speaker 3>But thirty eight years after he was killed, no one

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<v Speaker 3>has ever been charged with his murder, and to this day,

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<v Speaker 3>no one really knows the whole truth behind why he

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<v Speaker 3>was killed.

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<v Speaker 4>I think at the beginning with my parents' life, like

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<v Speaker 4>they can have the closure, but there's really no closure

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<v Speaker 4>no matter who did it. Now, I mean, Billy's been

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<v Speaker 4>dead for so long. How are they gonna be punished?

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<v Speaker 4>If they're out on the street, what are they gonna

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, they're they're old already orre this's gonna happen

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<v Speaker 4>to them. But I would like he's you know, I'd

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<v Speaker 4>like somebody to pay for what they did. Do they

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<v Speaker 4>really hurt him and he didn't They didn't be survey.

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<v Speaker 2>My number one rule went opening up a cold case,

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<v Speaker 2>you need to get your own opinion.

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<v Speaker 3>Detective Danny Smith was only twelve years old when Billy

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<v Speaker 3>was killed. As for me, I was in the early

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<v Speaker 3>process of transitioning into law enforcement in the Sunshine State.

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<v Speaker 3>But in twenty twenty two, after twenty seven years with

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<v Speaker 3>the City of Miramar Police, Danny was assigned to the

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<v Speaker 3>newly formed cold Case Squad Billy's case was the first

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<v Speaker 3>one he pulled off the shelf. It's filled with nearly

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<v Speaker 3>forty years of tips, leads, witness statements, and dead ends,

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<v Speaker 3>which is why Danny is convinced that if he's going

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<v Speaker 3>to solve this case, it would have to go back

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<v Speaker 3>to the very beginning.

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<v Speaker 2>You need to look at it through your own eyes

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<v Speaker 2>and not be swayed by previous investigators. I refuse to

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<v Speaker 2>read the notes from the previous cold case detective that

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<v Speaker 2>had this. I'm reading the stock basic original incident reports

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<v Speaker 2>from the detectives and the officers, and I think from

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<v Speaker 2>there I can move on to Okay, now, where would

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<v Speaker 2>I go from here if I had it.

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<v Speaker 3>As you see here today on day one of your investigation?

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<v Speaker 3>What are some of your concerns about the complexity.

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<v Speaker 2>Of this One of the top level concerns that I

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<v Speaker 2>have are being unable to actually track down some of

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<v Speaker 2>these people they've moved, if they've passed on, or if

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<v Speaker 2>they just don't want to get involved and they don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to speak to us.

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<v Speaker 3>On top of the challengers that force the case to

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<v Speaker 3>go cold in the first place, there's also the obstacles

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<v Speaker 3>that accumulate in any cold case, lost or degraded evidence,

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<v Speaker 3>faded memories, missing witnesses, and perhaps the most daunting legacy

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<v Speaker 3>of pre digital policing paperwork.

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<v Speaker 2>A cold case, especially going back to eighty six. I

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<v Speaker 2>want to first off, see if there's anything to work with,

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<v Speaker 2>so going back and pulling the files and making sure

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<v Speaker 2>that there are still reports to look at. And when

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<v Speaker 2>I pulled this case in particular, it was immaculate. The

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<v Speaker 2>detectives did a phenomenal job in documenting and cataloging and

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<v Speaker 2>keeping everything, so that was a plus right there.

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<v Speaker 3>Also on Danny's side is science.

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<v Speaker 2>My focus from the beginning was absolutely trying to locate

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<v Speaker 2>as much physical evidence that we had and see what

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<v Speaker 2>was done with it and see what could be done

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<v Speaker 2>with it. Now, just like any other cold case you have,

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<v Speaker 2>you have a homicide, and you have evidence that was

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<v Speaker 2>collected and then there over the years, sometimes evidence is lost,

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes it's destroyed, sometimes it's tested and consumed and you

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<v Speaker 2>no longer have access to it.

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<v Speaker 1>So in this case, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Wanted to find all the evidence that was collected, get

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<v Speaker 2>it into my custody, and then figure out how I

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<v Speaker 2>can go about having that tested.

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<v Speaker 3>With the advancements in DNA technology, Every unsolved case with

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<v Speaker 3>even a sentilla of biological forensic evidence can stake a

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<v Speaker 3>claim for a second look. But Danny also knows that

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<v Speaker 3>solving a cold case is rarely as easy as getting

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<v Speaker 3>a match on notice. Timelines, witness statements, motives, and alibis

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<v Speaker 3>all have to be checked and rechecked, and Billy Halpern's

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<v Speaker 3>case in particular seems to have a lot of loose ends.

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<v Speaker 3>Loose ends that suggest that maybe there was a reason

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<v Speaker 3>that his murder went unsolved for so long.

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<v Speaker 2>Someone persuaded Billy to open that door, whether it was

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<v Speaker 2>friendly hello, or somebody that knows Billy would not have

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<v Speaker 2>opened that door for someone that he doesn't like or

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't know.

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<v Speaker 3>Which begs the question, as it always does, why was

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<v Speaker 3>Billy Halpern mixed up with anyone capable of this kind

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<v Speaker 3>of violence. To answer that question, it was a time

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<v Speaker 3>for a trip back to South Florida to the mid eighties,

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<v Speaker 3>a seductive world of sun, sex, money, and wait for it, weightlifting.

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<v Speaker 3>Our mission to solve Billy Halpern's murder, to convince a

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<v Speaker 3>prosecutor to bring charges against his killer or killers, and

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<v Speaker 3>maybe to bring a bit of peace and closure to

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<v Speaker 3>his family and friends that have lived with the pain

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<v Speaker 3>of his murder for decades.

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<v Speaker 4>I would love for everyone to know the truth why

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<v Speaker 4>Billy died. People have said horrible things, you know, like

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<v Speaker 4>why would they hurt him that way?

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<v Speaker 5>He had it all.

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<v Speaker 4>He had it all, He was twenty eight, his whole

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<v Speaker 4>life to live.

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<v Speaker 3>But Danny and I didn't expect was that reopening this

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<v Speaker 3>cold case would shine a light on a string of

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<v Speaker 3>unsolved murders involving some of South Florida's most dangerous criminals.

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<v Speaker 4>I was really young, but I knew what was going on.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh my god, the money was sick. And then the

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<v Speaker 4>Columbians got involved, and it got dark and dirty and evil.

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<v Speaker 4>People were getting murdered left and right.

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<v Speaker 3>Was Billy just a random victim of a cold blooded

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<v Speaker 3>crime spree? Or was his murder part of a larger

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<v Speaker 3>conspiracy involving the hustlers, dealers, crooked cops, and wise guys

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<v Speaker 3>that were running wild in South Florida during its most

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<v Speaker 3>dangerous decade.

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<v Speaker 4>I really think there had to be a rat, a

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<v Speaker 4>dirty rat in a police department.

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<v Speaker 2>Lurid. Let me tell you a little bit about me

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<v Speaker 2>and how this all came about. I had never heard

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<v Speaker 2>of the case, but the case was brought over to me.

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<v Speaker 2>I took a look at it, and I just read

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<v Speaker 2>it and heard all these names, and I heard some

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<v Speaker 2>of the other homicides that happened sometime.

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<v Speaker 1>In the area.

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<v Speaker 2>Went by Billie's old house, took a look around just

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<v Speaker 2>to kind of get a feel for it, and then

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<v Speaker 2>started my process of going through this as a cold case.

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<v Speaker 2>In a long time, but I felt, we felt that

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<v Speaker 2>it would be important to at least meet with you

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<v Speaker 2>as the investigation started going out.

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<v Speaker 5>And I'm grateful.

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<v Speaker 4>I hope you can find out there truth.

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<v Speaker 3>Laurie and her brother Billy, grew up in Hollywood, Florida,

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<v Speaker 3>a beach town that lies about halfway between Fort Lauderdale

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<v Speaker 3>to the north and Miami twenty miles to the south.

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<v Speaker 3>By the time Billy was born, the Halpurans had already

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<v Speaker 3>been in South Florida for two generations. These were not

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<v Speaker 3>snowbirds or two year tourists at Halpurns were Florida born

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<v Speaker 3>and bred. Laurie was just two years younger than Billy,

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<v Speaker 3>and together they enjoyed a sun soaked, carefree youth and

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<v Speaker 3>cruising the quiet streets of what was then a small

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<v Speaker 3>town with an off season population of just a few thousand.

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<v Speaker 4>We all hung out at Garfield Beach in Allywood. Brother

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<v Speaker 4>kind of hung out with everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>He surfed all the time, and it was extream.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, make.

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<v Speaker 4>Money, be surfer, lived my life. Good guy and he

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<v Speaker 4>really loved me. He's a really good brother. He's a

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<v Speaker 4>very protective, very annoying, a typical big brother.

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<v Speaker 5>But he loved me and he only wanted the best

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<v Speaker 5>for me.

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<v Speaker 3>And he was popular, the king of the beach, with

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<v Speaker 3>long dark hair, a Tom Sellick mustache, and a chiseled

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<v Speaker 3>physique sculpted by hours in the gym. But Billy's friends

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<v Speaker 3>painted a picture of a gentle giant with a thousand

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<v Speaker 3>watts smile, someone with charm and charisma who seemed destined

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<v Speaker 3>for big things.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, like they y'all knew that he could do anything.

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<v Speaker 4>He was good looking, he was funny. Everyone liked him.

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<v Speaker 4>Quick kills me. It could have been anything.

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<v Speaker 3>In nineteen eighty, Billy took a job with the Hollandale

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<v Speaker 3>Fire Department as a paramedic. His friends were cops and

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<v Speaker 3>fellow firefighters, hard charging guys that shared Billy's interest in

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<v Speaker 3>the finer things like blondes, beer and pumping iron. As

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<v Speaker 3>Danny and I learned, when Billy wasn't on the job

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<v Speaker 3>or on the beach, he was in the gym along

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<v Speaker 3>with the deep Tans and Neon. South Florida was a

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<v Speaker 3>bodybuilding mecca back then, and Billy and his friends were

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<v Speaker 3>committed musclehoods.

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<v Speaker 2>He was a workout fiend, so he belonged to three

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<v Speaker 2>or maybe even four gyms, and he would rotate throughout

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<v Speaker 2>those gyms, and I think he had a circle of

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<v Speaker 2>friends through each gym.

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<v Speaker 3>Nights were spent in a string of bars that line

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<v Speaker 3>the boardwalk along Hollywood Beach. There was lots of alcohol, marijuana,

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<v Speaker 3>and this being the early nineteen eighties, plenty of harder

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<v Speaker 3>drugs were available too. But the aphrodisiac of choice youth

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<v Speaker 3>is boundless optimism and the conviction that nothing could ever

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<v Speaker 3>hurt you.

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<v Speaker 4>But believe me, we partied. I'm definitely no angel. He

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<v Speaker 4>didn't think of it. You know, every night yet Nickel Knight,

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<v Speaker 4>dime Knight, ladies night drink till you think night like

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<v Speaker 4>gave a drinking promotion down here. Everyone drank and then

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<v Speaker 4>you do a little bump to wake up and boom,

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<v Speaker 4>you're done. Then it got dirty.

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<v Speaker 3>But despite the partying Billy's faund, me and friends never

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<v Speaker 3>suspected that Billy was into anything criminal or hanging around

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<v Speaker 3>with the kind of people that could put his life

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<v Speaker 3>in danger.

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<v Speaker 6>I always thought Billy was selling art. He showed me

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<v Speaker 6>art at his house that he bought stuff, and I

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<v Speaker 6>honestly believe that's.

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<v Speaker 4>What he was.

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<v Speaker 3>But the truth might have been a little darker than

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<v Speaker 3>anyone ever knew. Time can be both a friend and

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<v Speaker 3>foe to a cold case. Detective memories of a decade's

0:25:17.800 --> 0:25:22.639
<v Speaker 3>old crime are usually spotty and unreliable at best, but

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<v Speaker 3>sometimes the passing years will encourage a potential witness to

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<v Speaker 3>come forward with information that, for whatever reason, they weren't

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<v Speaker 3>willing to share. In the original investigation, Billy's case file

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<v Speaker 3>had the names of dozens of people that we thought

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<v Speaker 3>might still possess crucial bits of information about his life,

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<v Speaker 3>his associations, and the murder itself. Now finding them forty

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<v Speaker 3>years later was another story.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's be back there.

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<v Speaker 3>I do not see who's share the truth.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I don't need, but we're going to knock anyway

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<v Speaker 2>because I think it was like a nineteen seventy nine truck.

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<v Speaker 1>This one.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello, how you doing. Hi, I'm Danny Smith. I'm with

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<v Speaker 2>Milmore Police. To this is Scott Weinberger. So we are

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<v Speaker 2>reopening the case of the murder of Billy Halbern.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that ring a bell?

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<v Speaker 3>Not everyone felt comfortable talking about Billy's murder to a

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<v Speaker 3>reporter or a mirror mar detective. Even fewer were willing

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<v Speaker 3>to go on the record.

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<v Speaker 2>So the reason that I'm reaching out to actually a

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<v Speaker 2>bunch of people. I'll probably give you a bunch of

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<v Speaker 2>names that are gonna kind of come back to you.

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<v Speaker 2>Back in the eighties, they didn't really statements from everybody,

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<v Speaker 2>So I kind of happening to go back and read

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<v Speaker 2>you the way, So tell me what you remember.

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<v Speaker 3>Sometimes it was hard to know what we heard was true,

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<v Speaker 3>what was rumor, and what some of these people may

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<v Speaker 3>have learned from a handful of newspaper articles covering the

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<v Speaker 3>case over the years. But one thing kept coming up.

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<v Speaker 3>Billy was not unfamiliar with some of the less savory

0:27:24.600 --> 0:27:28.480
<v Speaker 3>elements of the Hollywood beach party scene, and the one

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<v Speaker 3>thing we heard repeatedly by several friends of the people

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<v Speaker 3>listed in the case file as friends or acquaintances of

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<v Speaker 3>Billy was that, along with art, Billy was also rumored

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<v Speaker 3>to be selling drugs.

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<v Speaker 6>So there was always rumors around the jam.

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<v Speaker 3>I believe that he was an art deally, and.

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<v Speaker 6>I didn't know until after the fact that one of

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<v Speaker 6>Billy's biggest concerns was me finding out that he was

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<v Speaker 6>a coke dealer. He wanted to make sure that I

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<v Speaker 6>didn't know that, and he made sure from other people

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<v Speaker 6>that I didn't know anything about this, and it was true.

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<v Speaker 6>I didn't know anything about it. I thought he was

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<v Speaker 6>an art dealer.

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<v Speaker 3>It's important to note here that when Billy Halpin was killed,

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<v Speaker 3>he had no criminal record. Police recovered no drugs or

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<v Speaker 3>cash from his town home where he was killed. In fact,

0:28:25.359 --> 0:28:27.520
<v Speaker 3>his girlfriend said it was more likely to be short

0:28:27.600 --> 0:28:31.439
<v Speaker 3>of cash than flush. I mean, the guy drove a

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<v Speaker 3>ten year old Mercury Montego, so a South Florida kingpin

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<v Speaker 3>it was not, but if Billy was sealing drugs, it

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<v Speaker 3>could have put him in contact with potentially dangerous people.

0:28:46.360 --> 0:28:48.960
<v Speaker 3>And of course, just being in possession of drugs or

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<v Speaker 3>cash used to buy it can make anyone a target

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<v Speaker 3>for violence. And for the record, When we asked Laurie

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<v Speaker 3>about whether Billy might have been dealing drugs, she admitted

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<v Speaker 3>it was possible.

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<v Speaker 4>You wanted to make money, you know, he was firefighter

0:29:08.160 --> 0:29:10.200
<v Speaker 4>for a short time, but he didn't want to work.

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<v Speaker 4>And I didn't really know anything. I knew what Billy

0:29:14.120 --> 0:29:17.920
<v Speaker 4>was doing, but I'm not kidding that. He was a

0:29:18.080 --> 0:29:21.440
<v Speaker 4>very protective older brother, and he would if anything was

0:29:21.480 --> 0:29:23.840
<v Speaker 4>going to happen, he'd go go in your room, get

0:29:23.840 --> 0:29:24.960
<v Speaker 4>in your room.

0:29:25.640 --> 0:29:26.000
<v Speaker 5>Okay.

0:29:27.160 --> 0:29:28.800
<v Speaker 4>But I knew what was going on, you know, if

0:29:28.840 --> 0:29:33.200
<v Speaker 4>we were a partying back then, and I was just like,

0:29:33.320 --> 0:29:34.200
<v Speaker 4>I couldn't believe it.

0:29:35.160 --> 0:29:36.520
<v Speaker 2>You know, there are drugs involver.

0:29:37.240 --> 0:29:37.760
<v Speaker 1>We don't care.

0:29:38.040 --> 0:29:41.040
<v Speaker 2>We're looking to solve the home side of your brother,

0:29:41.080 --> 0:29:44.480
<v Speaker 2>and that's the bottom line.

0:29:45.480 --> 0:29:47.960
<v Speaker 3>Now, I'll be the first to admit, as an investigator

0:29:48.000 --> 0:29:51.560
<v Speaker 3>and a true crime storyteller, a murder victim's background is

0:29:51.640 --> 0:29:57.520
<v Speaker 3>sometimes the beneficiary of some degree of dancing around the

0:29:57.600 --> 0:30:00.600
<v Speaker 3>truth is that a victim's history of questionable or even

0:30:00.840 --> 0:30:04.720
<v Speaker 3>criminal behavior is not always relevant to a homicide investigation,

0:30:06.200 --> 0:30:09.640
<v Speaker 3>but whether we're part of a jury or a listening audience,

0:30:10.200 --> 0:30:15.760
<v Speaker 3>it can sway our sympathies. So prosecutors and podcasters have

0:30:15.840 --> 0:30:20.680
<v Speaker 3>a tendency to leave out the unsavory bits, But in

0:30:20.760 --> 0:30:24.360
<v Speaker 3>reopening this case, it was clear to me and Danny

0:30:24.440 --> 0:30:27.520
<v Speaker 3>that the level of Billy's involvement in the local drug

0:30:27.560 --> 0:30:32.040
<v Speaker 3>trade was critical to understanding why he was killed, who

0:30:32.120 --> 0:30:36.640
<v Speaker 3>killed him, and most importantly, why no one was ever

0:30:36.760 --> 0:30:38.000
<v Speaker 3>arrested for his murder.

0:30:41.080 --> 0:30:45.200
<v Speaker 2>Right now, the theories that I'm reading all focus around

0:30:45.360 --> 0:30:49.720
<v Speaker 2>his potential drug dealing and the drug underworld, So everything

0:30:49.760 --> 0:30:53.240
<v Speaker 2>that I've read up to this point kind of works

0:30:53.280 --> 0:30:57.960
<v Speaker 2>towards that angle. I haven't gotten any name suspects yet

0:30:58.120 --> 0:30:59.640
<v Speaker 2>in any of these case files.

0:31:00.960 --> 0:31:04.880
<v Speaker 3>Obviously, piecing together all of the players and whatever plot

0:31:04.920 --> 0:31:07.920
<v Speaker 3>was in play in nineteen eighty six that got Billy killed,

0:31:08.400 --> 0:31:11.120
<v Speaker 3>it was going to take some time and some good

0:31:11.160 --> 0:31:20.880
<v Speaker 3>old gumshoe detective work. But there was even more immediate

0:31:20.960 --> 0:31:23.800
<v Speaker 3>promise in the physical evidence that was recovered from the

0:31:23.840 --> 0:31:27.560
<v Speaker 3>original crime scene, evidence that would not just help us

0:31:27.640 --> 0:31:32.720
<v Speaker 3>recreate the crime, but potentially help us identify Billy's killer.

0:31:35.000 --> 0:31:38.480
<v Speaker 2>That was the second big check mark for us is

0:31:38.520 --> 0:31:40.360
<v Speaker 2>that we do have evidence, and it looks like that

0:31:40.440 --> 0:31:44.320
<v Speaker 2>it's been preserved since I think eighty seven we've got,

0:31:44.560 --> 0:31:48.440
<v Speaker 2>at least with Broward Sheriff's office. We've got electrical tape

0:31:48.480 --> 0:31:53.320
<v Speaker 2>from both wrists, hair that was in Halpern's left hand,

0:31:53.680 --> 0:31:58.360
<v Speaker 2>which presumably would be our killer, and then we've got

0:32:01.040 --> 0:32:03.480
<v Speaker 2>looks like a towel, which I believe that towel was

0:32:03.520 --> 0:32:06.760
<v Speaker 2>placed on him when he was found by his living

0:32:06.760 --> 0:32:09.800
<v Speaker 2>girlfriend at the time. That's all. That's all the evidence.

0:32:13.080 --> 0:32:17.080
<v Speaker 3>Electrical tape, a bloody towel, and several strands of human

0:32:17.120 --> 0:32:20.960
<v Speaker 3>hair recovered from the clutches of the victim's left hand.

0:32:22.640 --> 0:32:26.280
<v Speaker 2>And let's not forget that which I find very interesting.

0:32:26.440 --> 0:32:30.240
<v Speaker 2>On one of the pieces of tape that were taken

0:32:30.280 --> 0:32:35.080
<v Speaker 2>from Helper's wrists, there was like a small piece of

0:32:35.680 --> 0:32:39.360
<v Speaker 2>latex glove that appeared to have been ripped off on

0:32:39.400 --> 0:32:43.360
<v Speaker 2>the tape, which tells me that the guy or guys

0:32:43.480 --> 0:32:46.920
<v Speaker 2>or people that were in there were wearing gloves. And

0:32:47.600 --> 0:32:50.360
<v Speaker 2>I have very very high hopes that there's going to

0:32:50.360 --> 0:32:52.080
<v Speaker 2>be some kind of a DNA profile that comes out

0:32:52.120 --> 0:32:52.280
<v Speaker 2>of that.

0:32:55.600 --> 0:32:58.880
<v Speaker 3>Detectives in nineteen eighty six were never able to match

0:32:58.960 --> 0:33:02.280
<v Speaker 3>any of it to a potential suspect, but by today's

0:33:02.320 --> 0:33:04.920
<v Speaker 3>forensic standards, it feels promising.

0:33:06.520 --> 0:33:08.760
<v Speaker 2>I feel pretty good about the evidence that we still

0:33:08.800 --> 0:33:12.560
<v Speaker 2>have and the fact that to my knowledge, at least

0:33:12.680 --> 0:33:16.240
<v Speaker 2>according to the property receipts, nothing has been tested. The idea,

0:33:16.320 --> 0:33:21.160
<v Speaker 2>I think is maybe next week sit down with the

0:33:21.240 --> 0:33:26.000
<v Speaker 2>DNA supervisor over at bar Shriffs and run it by

0:33:26.080 --> 0:33:27.360
<v Speaker 2>and say this is what I want to do.

0:33:27.560 --> 0:33:28.560
<v Speaker 1>Here's your transmittal.

0:33:28.960 --> 0:33:30.000
<v Speaker 2>Let's get the ball rolling.

0:33:31.280 --> 0:33:34.360
<v Speaker 3>If we could recover viable DNA from any of this

0:33:34.440 --> 0:33:38.120
<v Speaker 3>physical evidence, it would go a long way to identifying

0:33:38.160 --> 0:33:38.640
<v Speaker 3>the killer.

0:33:42.480 --> 0:33:44.560
<v Speaker 2>The thing that's going to take the longest period of

0:33:44.560 --> 0:33:49.680
<v Speaker 2>time is going to be DNA testing and potential hair fibers,

0:33:50.320 --> 0:33:52.400
<v Speaker 2>whatever it is that we can pull out of property

0:33:52.440 --> 0:33:55.520
<v Speaker 2>and evidence. So that's going to be number one on

0:33:55.600 --> 0:33:58.120
<v Speaker 2>my list to do now. So as I'm doing additional

0:33:58.160 --> 0:34:01.560
<v Speaker 2>work interviews and trying to track down people, that testing

0:34:01.680 --> 0:34:04.120
<v Speaker 2>is already going to be in process.

0:34:05.440 --> 0:34:09.320
<v Speaker 3>Hopefully a DNA profile could be matched to one already

0:34:09.360 --> 0:34:13.520
<v Speaker 3>in CODIS, the National DNA Database of known offenders and

0:34:14.120 --> 0:34:17.920
<v Speaker 3>unidentified DNA from other crime scenes, or it could be

0:34:18.000 --> 0:34:21.560
<v Speaker 3>matched one to one to a known suspect whose DNA

0:34:21.640 --> 0:34:25.520
<v Speaker 3>we would have to obtain, either with permission or without.

0:34:29.239 --> 0:34:33.440
<v Speaker 3>But this was technology unavailable to detectives in the nineteen eighties,

0:34:33.760 --> 0:34:37.160
<v Speaker 3>which is one reason why six months after Billy's murder,

0:34:37.440 --> 0:34:44.600
<v Speaker 3>the original investigation had started to stall. None off Billy's

0:34:44.600 --> 0:34:47.440
<v Speaker 3>friends and family could offer police any leads into who

0:34:47.520 --> 0:34:50.000
<v Speaker 3>might have had a reason to hurt him. There were

0:34:50.040 --> 0:34:53.759
<v Speaker 3>no witnesses, no recent crimes with similar mo and no

0:34:53.920 --> 0:34:57.840
<v Speaker 3>shortage of alibis from just about anyone that had ever

0:34:57.920 --> 0:35:01.239
<v Speaker 3>been in cuffs in Brawrie County.

0:35:01.440 --> 0:35:04.799
<v Speaker 2>Someone persuaded Billy to open that door, whether it was

0:35:05.360 --> 0:35:10.000
<v Speaker 2>friendly hello, or somebody that he knows. Billy would not

0:35:10.000 --> 0:35:12.560
<v Speaker 2>have opened that door for someone that he doesn't like

0:35:12.680 --> 0:35:15.880
<v Speaker 2>or doesn't know. The scenario that I have in my

0:35:16.000 --> 0:35:18.680
<v Speaker 2>mind is that maybe a friend of Billy's was there

0:35:18.800 --> 0:35:21.480
<v Speaker 2>front of the door, knocked on the door, Billy allows

0:35:21.560 --> 0:35:24.120
<v Speaker 2>him in, and then at that point it's a bum

0:35:24.200 --> 0:35:26.279
<v Speaker 2>rush into the house where they're forced in.

0:35:27.480 --> 0:35:30.320
<v Speaker 3>Billy's murderer went from the front page to the back.

0:35:30.920 --> 0:35:35.160
<v Speaker 3>And that's until May sixth, nineteen eighty seven, homicide detectives

0:35:35.160 --> 0:35:38.319
<v Speaker 3>were again called to an apartment in the nearby town

0:35:38.360 --> 0:35:41.840
<v Speaker 3>of Tamarack, just a twenty minute try from where Billy

0:35:41.920 --> 0:35:46.640
<v Speaker 3>Halpburn was killed. It was the home of Billy's friend,

0:35:47.120 --> 0:35:50.319
<v Speaker 3>twenty six year old Mitch Hall, and Mitch's twenty three

0:35:50.360 --> 0:35:55.400
<v Speaker 3>year old girlfriend, char Linda Drout. A couple had been bound,

0:35:56.040 --> 0:36:00.680
<v Speaker 3>beaten and their throats slash in a crime scene eerily

0:36:00.760 --> 0:36:03.640
<v Speaker 3>similar to that of Billy Halpern's.

0:36:04.880 --> 0:36:07.360
<v Speaker 5>Him and his girlfriend were found in the bedroom.

0:36:07.360 --> 0:36:12.719
<v Speaker 4>I think so they were completely caught up guard.

0:36:11.000 --> 0:36:13.960
<v Speaker 3>Just like in Billy's murder. There were very few clues

0:36:14.120 --> 0:36:18.960
<v Speaker 3>and no immediate suspects, but the similarities were obviously too

0:36:19.000 --> 0:36:23.480
<v Speaker 3>great to be ignored. Investigators were immediately convinced that the

0:36:23.520 --> 0:36:29.640
<v Speaker 3>three murders were somehow connected. Laurie's first thought was that

0:36:29.680 --> 0:36:33.080
<v Speaker 3>Mitch Hall knew something about her brother's murder and that

0:36:33.160 --> 0:36:35.760
<v Speaker 3>information might have gotten him killed.

0:36:37.040 --> 0:36:40.560
<v Speaker 4>When Mitch died, they thought that he was going to

0:36:40.680 --> 0:36:44.200
<v Speaker 4>rowur and sheriffs to talk to them, that he knew something,

0:36:45.600 --> 0:36:47.160
<v Speaker 4>and that's why they came and killed him.

0:36:48.440 --> 0:36:51.719
<v Speaker 3>It's a sentiment that is shared by Mitch Hall's sister, Kim.

0:36:53.560 --> 0:36:57.760
<v Speaker 7>My brother came to visit me, I would say eighty

0:36:57.840 --> 0:37:00.239
<v Speaker 7>six December of eighty six. He came to me and

0:37:00.280 --> 0:37:04.560
<v Speaker 7>he said, Billy Helpern died and I'm going to find

0:37:04.600 --> 0:37:07.719
<v Speaker 7>out who killed him, and I said, Mitch, don't can

0:37:07.840 --> 0:37:10.880
<v Speaker 7>involved with those type of people, and he went to

0:37:10.920 --> 0:37:11.800
<v Speaker 7>the police station.

0:37:13.120 --> 0:37:17.160
<v Speaker 3>But if that was true, it had some shocking implications

0:37:17.400 --> 0:37:20.680
<v Speaker 3>because how would the killers know Mitch Hall was talking

0:37:20.719 --> 0:37:22.840
<v Speaker 3>to police?

0:37:24.000 --> 0:37:25.640
<v Speaker 5>How would anybody know that?

0:37:26.600 --> 0:37:28.479
<v Speaker 4>Like, you were going to tell what you knew about

0:37:28.520 --> 0:37:30.240
<v Speaker 4>Billy and none then you get killed.

0:37:30.680 --> 0:37:33.759
<v Speaker 5>Who in the police department is a bad guy? I

0:37:33.920 --> 0:37:36.280
<v Speaker 5>really felt that it had to be a dirty cop.

0:37:42.600 --> 0:37:45.560
<v Speaker 3>Mitch Hall and Charlenda Drought had been sharing a home

0:37:45.640 --> 0:37:49.200
<v Speaker 3>together in Tamarack, which is just outside of Fort Lauderdale,

0:37:49.440 --> 0:37:54.600
<v Speaker 3>for a little less than a year. Bob Daughtry was

0:37:54.640 --> 0:37:57.320
<v Speaker 3>a friend of Mitch's working on a job site nearby.

0:37:58.200 --> 0:38:01.759
<v Speaker 3>On the morning of May sixth, nineteen eighty seven, he

0:38:01.880 --> 0:38:03.520
<v Speaker 3>stopped by Mitch's town home.

0:38:05.040 --> 0:38:07.400
<v Speaker 8>I just remember pulling up, went up and knocked on

0:38:07.440 --> 0:38:10.840
<v Speaker 8>the door. He didn't come to the door, turned the

0:38:10.880 --> 0:38:12.640
<v Speaker 8>doorknob and the house was opened.

0:38:13.200 --> 0:38:14.279
<v Speaker 3>Walked in there.

0:38:14.200 --> 0:38:19.120
<v Speaker 8>And Mitch was in his bedroom. Outside the bathroom, I

0:38:19.120 --> 0:38:21.880
<v Speaker 8>mean it was blood. All his throat had been slipped.

0:38:22.440 --> 0:38:23.319
<v Speaker 8>It was a gruesome sign.

0:38:23.400 --> 0:38:28.960
<v Speaker 3>It really was. From their injuries and manner of death,

0:38:29.560 --> 0:38:33.000
<v Speaker 3>there was little doubt that it was somehow connected to

0:38:33.120 --> 0:38:38.360
<v Speaker 3>the execution style murder of Billy Hauburn just six months before.

0:38:41.040 --> 0:38:44.240
<v Speaker 8>His hands were tied behind his back and something stuffed

0:38:44.239 --> 0:38:47.239
<v Speaker 8>out of his mouth. And I also saw some marks

0:38:47.360 --> 0:38:49.279
<v Speaker 8>on his upper body. I don't know if they were

0:38:49.320 --> 0:38:51.440
<v Speaker 8>just from what they were from a fight, the cuts

0:38:51.480 --> 0:38:53.719
<v Speaker 8>from something, I don't know, but I remember seeing some

0:38:55.040 --> 0:38:56.640
<v Speaker 8>wounds on the upper part of his body.

0:38:57.960 --> 0:39:00.879
<v Speaker 3>Not only were the crimes similar, but Mitch Hall and

0:39:00.920 --> 0:39:06.080
<v Speaker 3>Billy had been friends since high school. According to Mitch's sister,

0:39:06.440 --> 0:39:08.680
<v Speaker 3>it hung out in the same group of friends, on

0:39:08.719 --> 0:39:12.120
<v Speaker 3>the same beach and at the same gym.

0:39:13.160 --> 0:39:15.680
<v Speaker 7>We knew all those people from back a long time

0:39:15.719 --> 0:39:19.160
<v Speaker 7>ago when we were growing up at Garfield Beach. We

0:39:19.280 --> 0:39:21.200
<v Speaker 7>used to hang out at the beach, and we've known

0:39:21.239 --> 0:39:25.239
<v Speaker 7>Billy Helpern forever. I know it's sister Lorie Helpern. I

0:39:25.239 --> 0:39:29.680
<v Speaker 7>mean I know their family. God, I knew Billy for years.

0:39:31.080 --> 0:39:34.160
<v Speaker 3>But there was one important difference between the two crime scenes.

0:39:35.440 --> 0:39:39.120
<v Speaker 3>It appeared that nothing had been stolen from Mitch Hall's home.

0:39:40.239 --> 0:39:44.160
<v Speaker 3>Here again, Brad Doughtry, who discovered the bodies.

0:39:45.320 --> 0:39:47.719
<v Speaker 8>Didn't look anymore to disarrayed than it never did. It

0:39:48.280 --> 0:39:49.600
<v Speaker 8>I mean I never would have thoughthen I wllt in

0:39:49.640 --> 0:39:51.120
<v Speaker 8>the front door because I got to the bedroom that

0:39:51.719 --> 0:39:53.759
<v Speaker 8>I was going to find him in there the way

0:39:53.800 --> 0:39:54.120
<v Speaker 8>I did.

0:39:55.840 --> 0:39:58.640
<v Speaker 3>From the way the bodies were positioned, it appeared that

0:39:58.680 --> 0:40:02.520
<v Speaker 3>both Mitch and Charlotne had been forced to their knees,

0:40:02.880 --> 0:40:06.359
<v Speaker 3>bound with tape and then killed in cold blood.

0:40:08.040 --> 0:40:12.880
<v Speaker 7>And there was no evidence of somebody breaking into his house.

0:40:13.400 --> 0:40:18.200
<v Speaker 7>So either his roommate gave the people the key, because

0:40:18.280 --> 0:40:20.879
<v Speaker 7>they pulled Charlnda and they cut her throat and they

0:40:21.600 --> 0:40:24.280
<v Speaker 7>set my brother's throat and it just bullshit.

0:40:26.239 --> 0:40:29.279
<v Speaker 3>Again, no signs of forced entry meant that Mitch and

0:40:29.360 --> 0:40:33.120
<v Speaker 3>Charlenda may have known their killers and invited them inside.

0:40:34.560 --> 0:40:37.440
<v Speaker 3>In May of nineteen eighty seven, the double murder and

0:40:37.520 --> 0:40:41.640
<v Speaker 3>its possible connection to Billy's murder six months before, had

0:40:41.719 --> 0:40:46.040
<v Speaker 3>caused a stir in the local media, and detectives at

0:40:46.040 --> 0:40:49.680
<v Speaker 3>the time hoped that the increased attention may stir up

0:40:49.680 --> 0:40:53.360
<v Speaker 3>some promising leads, but that wasn't the case. In fact,

0:40:53.640 --> 0:40:56.760
<v Speaker 3>investigators had a hard time convincing friends and co workers

0:40:57.000 --> 0:41:01.560
<v Speaker 3>of Billy and Mitch to talk at all. The word

0:41:01.640 --> 0:41:04.879
<v Speaker 3>on the street was that talking was exactly what might

0:41:04.920 --> 0:41:07.480
<v Speaker 3>have gotten Mitch killed in the first place.

0:41:09.040 --> 0:41:11.839
<v Speaker 7>He was killed the next day after he went to

0:41:11.880 --> 0:41:16.120
<v Speaker 7>the police station to tell them who killed Billy, and

0:41:16.160 --> 0:41:20.359
<v Speaker 7>he was killed the next day. So I'm assuming there

0:41:20.400 --> 0:41:22.959
<v Speaker 7>was a leak in the police station and somebody said

0:41:23.040 --> 0:41:27.600
<v Speaker 7>Mitch Hall knows who killed Billy.

0:41:28.360 --> 0:41:31.200
<v Speaker 3>It was a claim that maybe true, but one we

0:41:31.280 --> 0:41:35.160
<v Speaker 3>have so far have not seen any evidence of no

0:41:35.320 --> 0:41:40.120
<v Speaker 3>record that Mitch contacted any member of the department. And

0:41:40.200 --> 0:41:43.400
<v Speaker 3>even if Mitch Hall was telling people he was planning

0:41:43.440 --> 0:41:47.719
<v Speaker 3>on talking to police, that could be dangerous enough.

0:41:50.840 --> 0:41:54.080
<v Speaker 7>Is there any evidence that my brother came to the

0:41:54.080 --> 0:41:58.359
<v Speaker 7>police station and talked to a detective and let them

0:41:58.440 --> 0:42:02.560
<v Speaker 7>know who killed Billy Helpborne. There's no evidence of that

0:42:02.760 --> 0:42:03.640
<v Speaker 7>him coming into the.

0:42:03.680 --> 0:42:06.960
<v Speaker 4>Police station, not that I've seen, and I'm not saying

0:42:06.960 --> 0:42:07.840
<v Speaker 4>that it's not there.

0:42:09.760 --> 0:42:15.880
<v Speaker 2>But we're talking years and years ago.

0:42:17.080 --> 0:42:20.120
<v Speaker 3>But even in nineteen eighty seven, there was a strong

0:42:20.160 --> 0:42:23.719
<v Speaker 3>suspicion that not only were the murders connected, they were

0:42:23.880 --> 0:42:28.360
<v Speaker 3>likely committed by the same person. That suspicion would only

0:42:28.400 --> 0:42:32.080
<v Speaker 3>grow when just eight days later, two more bodies were

0:42:32.080 --> 0:42:35.759
<v Speaker 3>discovered in a house in Pembroke Pines, a twenty minute

0:42:35.840 --> 0:42:41.880
<v Speaker 3>drive inland from Hollywood Beach. The victims were identified as

0:42:42.000 --> 0:42:44.799
<v Speaker 3>thirty one year old Jimmy high Note and twenty eight

0:42:44.880 --> 0:42:49.440
<v Speaker 3>year old Harry Collier. Both men had been bound and

0:42:49.480 --> 0:42:51.959
<v Speaker 3>then shot at close range in the back of the head.

0:42:52.520 --> 0:42:56.200
<v Speaker 3>So it's a slightly different mo but with the same

0:42:56.480 --> 0:42:57.320
<v Speaker 3>deadly result.

0:43:01.200 --> 0:43:04.920
<v Speaker 2>When the names high Note and Callier came up, high

0:43:04.960 --> 0:43:09.359
<v Speaker 2>Note rang a bell because we know that Jimmy high

0:43:09.400 --> 0:43:12.120
<v Speaker 2>Note and Billy went to school together, they knew each other,

0:43:12.160 --> 0:43:16.040
<v Speaker 2>they grew up with each other. The fact that they

0:43:16.040 --> 0:43:20.480
<v Speaker 2>were then killed, that's not a coincidence. We have to

0:43:20.480 --> 0:43:23.200
<v Speaker 2>look into that.

0:43:23.200 --> 0:43:27.880
<v Speaker 3>That's right. Both men were known acquaintances of both Billy

0:43:27.960 --> 0:43:29.600
<v Speaker 3>Halburn and Mitch Hall.

0:43:31.360 --> 0:43:33.960
<v Speaker 4>I mean, we all grew up together. We'd go to

0:43:34.000 --> 0:43:36.000
<v Speaker 4>Big Daddy together, hanging out together.

0:43:37.200 --> 0:43:40.080
<v Speaker 7>Mitch he knew Jimmy h Notes. We used to go

0:43:40.120 --> 0:43:43.239
<v Speaker 7>to as Halloween parties. Billy was always there. We all

0:43:43.360 --> 0:43:47.760
<v Speaker 7>used to hang out together when we were teenagers. It's crazy.

0:43:48.040 --> 0:43:50.760
<v Speaker 7>I mean when all this happened, it was just crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>So what was going on here? Was someone targeting one

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<v Speaker 3>particular group of lifelong friends or where they all involved

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<v Speaker 3>in a conspiracy that ultimately got them all killed.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't like to speculate, but I mean a normal

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<v Speaker 2>prudent person would look at all the facts and say

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<v Speaker 2>that's got to be connected.

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<v Speaker 1>No matter what.

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<v Speaker 2>Forget about them, forget about locations or the way that

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<v Speaker 2>the murders happen. You have to think he was connected,

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<v Speaker 2>and especially that he was in such close time proximity

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<v Speaker 2>to the Helper murder.

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<v Speaker 3>So what was the connection. The further we dug, the

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<v Speaker 3>more we kept coming back to one place, the Apollo, Jim.

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<v Speaker 9>It wasn't just a gym, It was a criminal enterprise.

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<v Speaker 3>The Apollo was a no frills prison yard style facility

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<v Speaker 3>dedicated to pain and gain, owned by a hulking ex cop.

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<v Speaker 3>His name is Gil Fernandez and his partner a former

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<v Speaker 3>mister Florida named Bert CHRISTI.

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<v Speaker 9>That guy is a fucking gangster. Those two were together.

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<v Speaker 9>They were like John Gottie and Sammy the Bull.

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<v Speaker 3>Four of the five murder victims, Billy Halpern, Mitch Hall,

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<v Speaker 3>Harry Collier, and Jimmy high Note were all members of

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<v Speaker 3>the Apollo Gym. That was the connection.

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<v Speaker 4>I think there was a steroid thing going on in

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<v Speaker 4>Apollo Gym, and Billy came to my bedroom door like, Hey, Laura,

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<v Speaker 4>ba I love you. If I don't come home, just

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<v Speaker 4>want you to know that I love you, and then

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<v Speaker 4>boom to get the phone call.

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<v Speaker 3>The more Danny and I learned about the place, the

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<v Speaker 3>more I was convinced that whatever conspiracy existed that led

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<v Speaker 3>to the murders, it was hatched right here. I just

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<v Speaker 3>never expected what we would find along the way.

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<v Speaker 9>They were doing shake that, so it was well known,

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<v Speaker 9>you're gonna pay us or we're going to kill you.

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<v Speaker 6>And I thought they were going to kill me there,

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<v Speaker 6>so I kept my mouth shut and I didn't say anything.

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<v Speaker 6>All these years, I didn't say anything, but I knew that.

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<v Speaker 3>They killed Billy or how deep the corruption would go.

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<v Speaker 9>People were afraid to go to the law because they

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<v Speaker 9>knew that he was a former cop and still had

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<v Speaker 9>lots of friends on the forest, a.

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<v Speaker 6>Lot of unsolved murders that I think are all tied

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<v Speaker 6>to the same people.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's almost incestuous that everyone knew each other, everyone

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<v Speaker 2>worked together, and then ultimately almost everyone was killed.

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<v Speaker 3>Coming up in the next episode of Cold Blooded, the

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<v Speaker 3>Apollo Gym Murders, how Royd's Ripoffs and Revenge of the

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<v Speaker 3>Trail of Murder on the streets and swamps of South Florida,

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<v Speaker 3>and how one killer might still be walking free.

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<v Speaker 9>Well, I was always taught, if you start poking your

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<v Speaker 9>nose around, you're gonna get yourself.

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<v Speaker 3>Killed, cold blooded. The Apollo Jim Murders is a production

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<v Speaker 3>of iHeart Podcasts and Authentic Wave Media. Scott Weinberger, Kevin Bennett,

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<v Speaker 3>and Walker Lemon are executive producers. Sabrina Siree is our

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<v Speaker 3>line producer, scoring sound design and mixing by Mark lamorj

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<v Speaker 3>Z for iHeart Podcasts, Christina Everett is executive producer, and

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<v Speaker 3>David Wasserman is brand marketing manager. And with special thanks

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<v Speaker 3>to the Miramar Police Department, Chief Delrich Moss, Pio Tanya Ardaz,

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<v Speaker 3>and Detective Susie Smith,