WEBVTT - Michael Rubin talks Knicks championship, Jada’s “White Party” invitation & Meek Mill frendship 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:03.720 Mike, I use no drugs. I feel like I'm smoking 0:00:03.840 --> 0:00:04.960 crack every day. 0:00:05.559 --> 0:00:07.760 I mean, we got. 0:00:07.680 --> 0:00:11.000 Skinny Joe with the next waiting, no liver, the sash 0:00:11.080 --> 0:00:11.799 talking life. 0:00:12.000 --> 0:00:15.960 He's killing all my clothes. Askies yesterday. I don't even know. 0:00:16.560 --> 0:00:33.080 I don't even know what's going on, man, Yeah, yeah, 0:00:33.120 --> 0:00:36.559 what's up? Yard? This is Joe Crack, the dull billionaires. Shit, Yo, 0:00:36.840 --> 0:00:38.280 it is your boy, Jada. 0:00:38.360 --> 0:00:41.680 This is the Joe and Joe uh to Joe and Jay, 0:00:41.760 --> 0:00:46.280 the Joe and Jada Show. Every show legendary, every show iconic. 0:00:47.200 --> 0:00:53.400 And we continue to crush y'all. And we're gonna proceed 0:00:53.960 --> 0:00:59.920 to crush yap. You think of today's guests, you think 0:01:00.080 --> 0:01:08.040 of everything. You think of a man responsible for many incredible. 0:01:07.280 --> 0:01:09.920 Ding I think of a loan like I need a loan. 0:01:10.040 --> 0:01:14.640 Think of a loan the biggest white party in the universe, 0:01:16.000 --> 0:01:21.839 or the biggest the largest trading car show, sports member 0:01:21.840 --> 0:01:26.360 of Billiard. He has some of the greatest friends on earth. 0:01:27.959 --> 0:01:30.640 He saved me mill when they did a wheelie and 0:01:30.680 --> 0:01:33.040 they tried to do him. They really did it. It came 0:01:33.120 --> 0:01:37.280 to the restaurant. We can be here for hours. Give 0:01:37.360 --> 0:01:41.039 him in his flowers, ladies and gentlemen make some noise 0:01:41.080 --> 0:01:42.720 for mister Michael Ruby. 0:01:45.080 --> 0:01:47.639 I just want to say that could be the best 0:01:47.760 --> 0:01:49.920 all time in trouble anyone. If I need a hype man, 0:01:51.760 --> 0:01:53.320 ill you something. 0:01:53.560 --> 0:01:59.240 It wasn't so loud, he really road. That was a 0:01:59.320 --> 0:02:00.840 hell of an intro. I appreciate that. 0:02:01.040 --> 0:02:01.640 All black. 0:02:03.680 --> 0:02:05.640 I mean you, I got a little I got a 0:02:05.680 --> 0:02:08.600 little gripe. I gotta settle with you right now. Last 0:02:08.680 --> 0:02:12.360 night I was going to bed about midnight, as I 0:02:12.400 --> 0:02:14.400 always do him, just going through social media, see what's 0:02:14.400 --> 0:02:16.360 going on in this world. So it's a little clip 0:02:16.400 --> 0:02:18.440 came up from the two of you, and you know 0:02:18.480 --> 0:02:20.919 it said you talk a little ship said a white 0:02:20.919 --> 0:02:22.600 party thing is not for me. I don't want to 0:02:22.639 --> 0:02:25.320 be there, Joe said, is the only party per year. 0:02:25.400 --> 0:02:27.880 My wife wants to go there. So you really he 0:02:28.000 --> 0:02:33.000 really wants to be there, he said, you knows that 0:02:33.160 --> 0:02:35.799 was his way. I didn't really know this guy before that. 0:02:35.880 --> 0:02:37.760 We're just spending time for the first time, and that 0:02:37.960 --> 0:02:39.600 was his way of getting you. 0:02:40.240 --> 0:02:42.880 After you watched it, he's invited you know what he's 0:02:43.080 --> 0:02:45.400 I mean, we got to see you moving on. I 0:02:45.440 --> 0:02:46.880 just want to say one thing First of all, as you. 0:02:46.880 --> 0:02:52.320 Know, the White parties takes a lot of he's in 0:02:52.680 --> 0:02:55.000 I just want to say so annoying for the White card. 0:02:55.480 --> 0:02:56.359 Want I just want to. 0:02:56.280 --> 0:02:57.760 Say one thing though, it takes, as you know, a 0:02:57.800 --> 0:03:00.000 little bit of training, twelve hour party, gotta being in shape. 0:03:00.040 --> 0:03:02.240 It's like you gots I think you trained to get 0:03:02.280 --> 0:03:04.240 in the shape here in now for the White Party. 0:03:04.280 --> 0:03:07.040 It's the greatest body on earth, and now you're invited. 0:03:07.200 --> 0:03:09.280 You deserve it. Top five. 0:03:13.600 --> 0:03:16.639 Listen to that family coming together right away. We're at 0:03:16.800 --> 0:03:22.720 Fanatics Fest. Uh, the biggest thing moving is these training calls. 0:03:22.960 --> 0:03:24.040 How did you note it? 0:03:24.639 --> 0:03:28.760 Jump on it early and you created you know, this 0:03:28.880 --> 0:03:30.040 big event behind it. 0:03:30.120 --> 0:03:32.280 Yeah. Well, the amazing thing about Fanatics Pest there's only 0:03:32.280 --> 0:03:34.040 the third year we're doing this, which is kind of 0:03:34.080 --> 0:03:35.920 insane when you think about it. It's really become a 0:03:36.000 --> 0:03:39.480 sports week in New York. Sb's moved from LA to 0:03:39.520 --> 0:03:42.800 New York to go the night before Fanatics Fest, Dodgers 0:03:42.800 --> 0:03:46.920 playing the Yankees this weekend. By design, you've got WWE 0:03:47.120 --> 0:03:51.360 at MSG Saturday night. World Cup, small thing called the 0:03:51.360 --> 0:03:57.080 World Cup. This Sunday World Cup Final Argentina Spain. Oh God, God, 0:03:57.120 --> 0:04:01.640 it's insane time. One hundred build themselves around this. So 0:04:01.640 --> 0:04:03.960 it's like so many great events coming together, but we're 0:04:03.960 --> 0:04:06.840 on it. You got two hundred thousand of the boost 0:04:06.960 --> 0:04:10.160 not just sports fans, super fans here at Jefferts for 0:04:10.200 --> 0:04:12.280 this over the next four days. And the thing is 0:04:12.320 --> 0:04:14.680 so humbling to me is you got four hundred the 0:04:14.720 --> 0:04:18.719 biggest stars in the world coming together to celebrate these fans, 0:04:18.760 --> 0:04:20.239 and it creates so many great moments. 0:04:20.279 --> 0:04:22.360 And you know, for me, you know, we. 0:04:22.240 --> 0:04:24.440 Love being a connector, we love being in the center 0:04:24.480 --> 0:04:27.120 of everything. And you know, it's just amazing to see 0:04:27.520 --> 0:04:30.480 the giant smiles on all these fans faces. And I 0:04:30.520 --> 0:04:32.400 love you guys being to come here and get so 0:04:32.440 --> 0:04:34.720 many different interesting things and the people you guys come 0:04:34.720 --> 0:04:36.800 in touch with. So we like doing that. That's just 0:04:36.880 --> 0:04:39.440 Finac's all about bringing people together. And you know, we 0:04:39.480 --> 0:04:41.240 wake up and go to bed obsession with how do 0:04:41.279 --> 0:04:44.120 we do great things for sports fans? As really to trading. 0:04:43.880 --> 0:04:46.000 Cards and collectibles, I'll say, in a. 0:04:46.000 --> 0:04:49.239 Lot of ways, I'd say we got into this market 0:04:49.760 --> 0:04:52.080 in the middle of COVID people thought we were nuts. 0:04:52.440 --> 0:04:55.600 It's a cyclical business. It's a great during Covid, it's 0:04:55.640 --> 0:04:58.120 gonna all fall apart. And we just thought the companies 0:04:58.120 --> 0:05:00.840 that were in there before, they weren't marketing, they weren't 0:05:00.880 --> 0:05:04.359 innovating the product. The athletes didn't care about it. So 0:05:04.400 --> 0:05:07.760 we got in and we just really like entrepreneurs, So 0:05:07.839 --> 0:05:10.600 let's innovate the product, let's market it for the first time. 0:05:11.080 --> 0:05:13.320 Let's build products that athletes really care about. 0:05:13.400 --> 0:05:17.880 Now five years later, there's so much enthusiasm excitement domestically 0:05:17.880 --> 0:05:20.200 in the US because of the actions we've taken. 0:05:20.360 --> 0:05:20.800 But we're going to. 0:05:20.800 --> 0:05:22.839 Globalize this business down to so I think we're still 0:05:23.160 --> 0:05:24.920 we're the first thing of this baseball game here. 0:05:25.120 --> 0:05:28.159 How important is the Knicks winning the gym? How much 0:05:28.240 --> 0:05:32.040 fluidity is that bring it? This year is fanatic fits. 0:05:32.360 --> 0:05:34.640 I think if we were trying to script it, we 0:05:34.680 --> 0:05:37.120 couldn't script it any better. I mean, having the Knicks, 0:05:37.200 --> 0:05:39.279 I everyone in fifty three years, I mean, do you 0:05:39.360 --> 0:05:41.800 know how much happier Joe is like? I mean, this 0:05:41.880 --> 0:05:44.120 guy's let me ask you a question, how much happy 0:05:44.200 --> 0:05:45.640 is your life this year than last year? 0:05:45.960 --> 0:05:49.360 I mean, this guy's he's like, I use no drugs. 0:05:50.200 --> 0:05:52.840 I feel like I'm smoking crash every day. 0:05:53.400 --> 0:05:56.919 I mean the guy we've got Skinny Joe with the 0:05:56.960 --> 0:05:59.600 Knicks waiting live in the Best talking Life. 0:05:59.720 --> 0:06:03.760 See kill close the Askpies yesterday. I don't even know. 0:06:04.400 --> 0:06:06.440 I don't even know what's going on. Man. 0:06:06.560 --> 0:06:09.839 It's like they not get to take a picture. 0:06:11.040 --> 0:06:13.680 If I ever was a groupie. And now you can 0:06:13.760 --> 0:06:14.560 throw a flag on that. 0:06:15.279 --> 0:06:18.679 It's up the New York Knicks and that actually close 0:06:18.800 --> 0:06:22.039 the Spies and they come on, Joe, let's take a 0:06:22.040 --> 0:06:25.400 picture together the team and you is sick. 0:06:25.800 --> 0:06:28.200 And by the way, you don't get memories like that 0:06:28.680 --> 0:06:30.280 very off in the life. And that's why you look 0:06:30.320 --> 0:06:32.640 back and say one of the best memories of my life. 0:06:33.440 --> 0:06:36.679 That is definitely one of the best memories in my life. 0:06:37.040 --> 0:06:40.239 And you know what happens is we go to Madison 0:06:40.320 --> 0:06:45.000 squad Garden and we see thirty thousand people and we 0:06:45.120 --> 0:06:48.000 think those are the nick Fins. And so when we 0:06:48.080 --> 0:06:51.800 do the parade, we got a thirty million. Mister Dolan 0:06:51.880 --> 0:06:54.000 gave me my own faat in the parade. So I 0:06:54.080 --> 0:06:54.880 bring hip hop. 0:06:55.839 --> 0:06:56.839 I just seen. 0:06:57.320 --> 0:07:00.960 Thirty blocks in a row of human beings like it 0:07:01.000 --> 0:07:05.960 was just I said, holy, I said. 0:07:05.320 --> 0:07:07.640 Why, I didn't even know we had that many niggas. 0:07:07.680 --> 0:07:07.800 You know. 0:07:07.960 --> 0:07:10.680 It was, you know, having built fanatics, you know, as 0:07:10.760 --> 0:07:13.840 my full time the only thing I'm really focused on 0:07:13.840 --> 0:07:17.080 since twenty eleven, watching the way the Knicks fans showed 0:07:17.160 --> 0:07:19.320 up was like no the fan base has ever showed up. 0:07:19.720 --> 0:07:22.960 It was the biggest single hot market for our merchandise 0:07:23.040 --> 0:07:27.600 business since we started. It shattered the records, Bigger than 0:07:27.600 --> 0:07:30.400 when the clubs won after one hundred plus years, Bigger 0:07:30.400 --> 0:07:32.600 than when the Dodgers won, Bigger when the Lakers won. 0:07:32.880 --> 0:07:34.240 It shottered the records. 0:07:34.520 --> 0:07:37.600 You already know when it's a real moment, you need 0:07:37.640 --> 0:07:38.600 a real bottle. 0:07:38.760 --> 0:07:42.400 That's why we rock with eighteen hundred tequila. Y'all heard me. 0:07:42.600 --> 0:07:45.880 These people were making tequila for eleven generations. 0:07:45.920 --> 0:07:47.120 That's right, eleven. 0:07:47.320 --> 0:07:51.560 That's a legacy, that's og status oj. They were the 0:07:51.600 --> 0:07:55.440 first to introduce in nir Ho set the standard before 0:07:55.560 --> 0:07:59.320 most of these brands even existed, and you could taste 0:07:59.360 --> 0:07:59.960 the difference. 0:08:00.000 --> 0:08:00.640 It's for real. 0:08:00.920 --> 0:08:05.120 Eighteen hundred Crystallino in reprisado was what we've been on lately. 0:08:05.680 --> 0:08:10.240 Move clean, elevate, no burn, no rough edges, just a 0:08:10.400 --> 0:08:13.800 premium poor that speaks for itself. You know when It's 0:08:13.840 --> 0:08:17.600 something that's just built right. That's what this is. Real talk, 0:08:17.720 --> 0:08:19.080 that's just what it is. 0:08:19.320 --> 0:08:22.960 It's always around for the best nights, the wins, the celebrations, 0:08:23.000 --> 0:08:24.520 to remember that night's story. 0:08:24.640 --> 0:08:27.560 Whether you're keeping it low key with the crew or 0:08:27.560 --> 0:08:30.800 you're pulling up to a big event. Eighteen hundred fits 0:08:30.840 --> 0:08:33.800 every second. It ain't trying too hard. It's just that 0:08:33.960 --> 0:08:37.960 eighteen hundred tequila, real legacy, real smooth. 0:08:38.440 --> 0:08:41.240 That's the move, true, true, true one. 0:08:41.480 --> 0:08:45.840 If you've never been to fanatics vest the recreation of 0:08:45.880 --> 0:08:48.120 the forty forty, it's crazy. 0:08:48.200 --> 0:08:52.120 Every it couldn't have been. This is insane. Look at 0:08:52.160 --> 0:08:54.120 it crazy. You know. 0:08:54.160 --> 0:08:56.680 I remember when we starting to act fast three years ago. 0:08:57.280 --> 0:08:59.839 Jane Das said me and said, hey, you know, I 0:09:00.120 --> 0:09:03.120 love forty forty such an important, iconic brand. Why don't 0:09:03.160 --> 0:09:06.080 we pop it up for guys like you, the most 0:09:06.080 --> 0:09:10.559 important you know, artists, celebrities, athletes and support. BANAX has 0:09:10.600 --> 0:09:12.960 to give them a private place to hang out. For 0:09:13.000 --> 0:09:15.439 the most important people at the festival. So this place 0:09:15.480 --> 0:09:18.360 holds three four hundred people. I remember looking up last year, 0:09:18.360 --> 0:09:23.120 I saw Lebron, James Draymond, Tom Brady, Kevin Hardy was 0:09:23.120 --> 0:09:23.640 a little hard. 0:09:23.520 --> 0:09:24.720 To see, if I'm being honest, but I did. 0:09:25.040 --> 0:09:29.079 I did see Kevin up there, Kevin Hart, Kaled, Michael Parson, 0:09:29.240 --> 0:09:31.400 c J Straud, all standing together. 0:09:31.440 --> 0:09:32.800 I'm like, man, this is the middle of. 0:09:32.760 --> 0:09:36.080 A sports travers all guys around, guys, no travers DJ, 0:09:36.160 --> 0:09:37.000 and actually. 0:09:37.040 --> 0:09:39.000 This one is for the o gs. 0:09:39.400 --> 0:09:40.480 Let's keep it eighteen. 0:09:41.240 --> 0:09:44.800 I would say your entry into hip hop was Meek Meal. Yeah, 0:09:44.800 --> 0:09:48.280 I look, I didn't design to have I mean, let's 0:09:48.360 --> 0:09:50.200 keep this real. Finax has one hundred and fifty million 0:09:50.200 --> 0:09:53.600 customers today. You know, there's two billion kind of avid 0:09:53.640 --> 0:09:56.880 sports fans in the world. Everybody is a customer of fanatics, 0:09:56.880 --> 0:09:58.920 and so you know, our sports fan just follows the 0:09:58.920 --> 0:09:59.640 popular the world. 0:10:00.120 --> 0:10:02.720 Let me tell you what my fans care about, right, 0:10:03.760 --> 0:10:08.000 this is the hip hop show. Something I've always respected 0:10:08.040 --> 0:10:11.720 you for because you don't know I'm privy to being 0:10:11.800 --> 0:10:15.440 behind the scene. Of course, so you become cool with 0:10:15.559 --> 0:10:19.480 Meek Mil, he gets locked up and you fund his 0:10:19.679 --> 0:10:24.560 lawyers to get him out of jail. I'm telling you, Yeah, 0:10:24.600 --> 0:10:27.440 what they want to know, like, why did you feel 0:10:27.480 --> 0:10:29.200 like I want to help Meek Mil? 0:10:29.640 --> 0:10:32.959 Why do you come out of your pocket and support him? 0:10:32.960 --> 0:10:33.640 In that way. 0:10:34.160 --> 0:10:36.959 So I remember meeting Meek for the first time. I 0:10:37.000 --> 0:10:40.000 think it was twenty fourteen. He was at that time 0:10:40.040 --> 0:10:43.400 together with Nikki. I was with my daughter, Kylie was 0:10:44.280 --> 0:10:45.640 she must have been six. I can not do the 0:10:45.679 --> 0:10:46.679 math I had six seven. 0:10:46.480 --> 0:10:47.120 Eight years old. 0:10:47.400 --> 0:10:49.960 Meek was like, it was really interesting because I barely 0:10:50.080 --> 0:10:51.840 met at a high school. You know, I went to 0:10:51.840 --> 0:10:54.000 college for six weeks. The way I learned is we 0:10:54.080 --> 0:10:57.360 asking questions. Okay, I'm always asking people questions. I'm always 0:10:57.400 --> 0:11:00.839 studying my surroundings. So as my daughter was like at 0:11:00.840 --> 0:11:03.280 this point, you know super you know, asking Nicky a 0:11:03.280 --> 0:11:04.920 bunch of things and being like a typical six or 0:11:04.960 --> 0:11:08.200 eight year old who's meeting somebody that she likes. Meek 0:11:08.240 --> 0:11:10.240 has asked me all kinds of questions about business, and 0:11:10.240 --> 0:11:14.080 I'm like I saw in him that same like just 0:11:14.200 --> 0:11:18.880 curiosity and passion to learn that I have, and we 0:11:18.960 --> 0:11:22.079 became really friendly. What people don't understand is by the 0:11:22.080 --> 0:11:24.720 time all the shit went down with me in twenty seventeen, 0:11:25.280 --> 0:11:27.000 that was like one of my closest friends and he 0:11:27.040 --> 0:11:28.520 remains say one of my closest friends. 0:11:28.520 --> 0:11:30.840 Like I love Meek Mill, people say, I hear. 0:11:30.760 --> 0:11:32.880 Some dumb shit, tell oh, I don't see you guys 0:11:32.920 --> 0:11:35.720 in pictures of his body, Like, that's my fucking brother. 0:11:36.559 --> 0:11:37.680 Meek is my friend. 0:11:37.800 --> 0:11:41.760 Meek is my by ieri in a year that I loved. Yeah, 0:11:41.880 --> 0:11:43.240 of course, but I don't talk to me for three 0:11:43.240 --> 0:11:44.960 months because I'm working eighteen hours a day. 0:11:45.040 --> 0:11:45.959 That is my brother. 0:11:46.360 --> 0:11:51.199 So anyway, what happened was it's a crazy story. So 0:11:51.320 --> 0:11:54.760 Meek had a probation hearing in Philadelphia and he kept 0:11:54.760 --> 0:11:57.760 telling me about this crazy judge he had who kept 0:11:57.760 --> 0:12:00.240 like trying to control his life. So he called, We're 0:12:00.240 --> 0:12:02.360 on a Friday afternoon. I remember this like it was yesterday. 0:12:02.360 --> 0:12:05.400 My memory sucks this point if it's not really important, 0:12:05.840 --> 0:12:08.680 he says, rue, what do you do on Monday? I said, like, 0:12:08.679 --> 0:12:11.679 I'm fucking working. What do you think I'm doing? He says, like, 0:12:12.040 --> 0:12:15.920 can you come to my probation hearing? I'm like, you 0:12:15.960 --> 0:12:18.040 want me to come to your probation hearing? He's like, yeah, 0:12:18.080 --> 0:12:19.840 why you see what happens to a black person when 0:12:19.880 --> 0:12:23.439 they go for a probation hearing. So I'm like at 0:12:23.440 --> 0:12:25.600 this point, like I don't like, I'm dumb, I don't 0:12:25.600 --> 0:12:27.800 know anything. I'm like, is it really important. He's like, 0:12:27.920 --> 0:12:30.280 it would mean a lot to me. I said, gosh, 0:12:30.320 --> 0:12:32.760 I called my office like yo, clear out, Like he's 0:12:32.800 --> 0:12:35.200 got a probationary in Philly. It was one o'clock, I said, 0:12:35.200 --> 0:12:37.400 clear out thirty minutes for the probation hearing. So I 0:12:37.440 --> 0:12:39.320 got to leave the hoose by twelve fifteen. I'll be 0:12:39.360 --> 0:12:41.640 back by two o'clock or two fifteen. So I lived 0:12:41.679 --> 0:12:44.400 like a half an hour from there. I get there 0:12:45.040 --> 0:12:48.160 and me's like really nervous, like yo, this judge's gonna 0:12:48.200 --> 0:12:50.640 lock me up, like for what you popped it really 0:12:50.679 --> 0:12:53.160 on a motorcycle. You got to you got a ticket, 0:12:53.360 --> 0:12:56.079 the ticket got dismissed. You are not going to jail 0:12:56.160 --> 0:13:01.000 for popping really on a motorcycle. Anyway, judge starts, and 0:13:01.240 --> 0:13:04.080 I watched the probation officer get up and they say, 0:13:04.080 --> 0:13:07.520 basically say Meeke's real name. We recommend no sentence. He's 0:13:07.559 --> 0:13:12.040 a model probationer. That's my boy, a model probationer. The 0:13:12.400 --> 0:13:15.160 DA gets up and the DA is never like friendly 0:13:15.240 --> 0:13:19.199 like this, They said, we recommend no, no, no sensing 0:13:20.080 --> 0:13:24.960 she said. The judge starts screaming at the probation officer 0:13:25.520 --> 0:13:28.760 and the charity. I was like, what the fuck is 0:13:28.800 --> 0:13:31.960 this Now, I'm like, maybe games crazy as I think 0:13:31.960 --> 0:13:35.160 he is. So she's going off. So next thing, we're 0:13:35.200 --> 0:13:37.200 two hours into this thing. I'm like, cancel my day. 0:13:38.040 --> 0:13:40.080 There's like an intermission in the middle of this probationary. 0:13:40.160 --> 0:13:42.760 This judges in our glory. Denise Brinkley one of the 0:13:42.800 --> 0:13:46.080 worst human beings on this planet. Okay shout out to her. 0:13:46.120 --> 0:13:49.920 A horrible human being. Okay, loves controlling his life, love 0:13:50.000 --> 0:13:51.880 locking people up. Didn't want to do the fair thing 0:13:52.080 --> 0:13:53.240 s wants to lock people up. 0:13:53.720 --> 0:13:55.600 So that's crazy. 0:13:55.679 --> 0:13:57.720 We go where like it's like two hours into it. 0:13:57.720 --> 0:13:59.480 We just walked the bathroom. Everyone I just take a leak, 0:14:00.360 --> 0:14:01.880 and he says, like they're in the lockdows of me. 0:14:02.000 --> 0:14:03.679 You were not getting locked up. I walk back in 0:14:03.720 --> 0:14:05.960 like a bunch more cops come in and they're like 0:14:07.240 --> 0:14:09.480 mixed counsels, like, hey, can you speak on his behalf? 0:14:09.960 --> 0:14:10.720 And I get up. 0:14:11.559 --> 0:14:13.440 I tell a story about Hey, we've known another three 0:14:13.520 --> 0:14:16.440 four years. This guy's moving my mom a bunch of times, 0:14:16.480 --> 0:14:19.840 my daughter like he's around, he's around all these people. 0:14:19.920 --> 0:14:21.680 So you are again, you're only going four a half 0:14:21.680 --> 0:14:23.640 and now it turns into you. 0:14:23.720 --> 0:14:25.160 Two and a half, just two and a half hours 0:14:25.200 --> 0:14:28.320 into this four hour bullshit, and I give like this impassion, 0:14:28.480 --> 0:14:30.840 Like I'm a pretty passionate guy, talk about how much 0:14:30.840 --> 0:14:32.920 I love him. Look, I know he's not perfect, but 0:14:32.960 --> 0:14:36.760 like who is perfectly? He's creating jobs. He's a great guy. 0:14:37.080 --> 0:14:38.840 You know, he's a perfect No, but does he deserve 0:14:38.880 --> 0:14:39.480 to be locked up? 0:14:39.520 --> 0:14:39.840 Hell no? 0:14:40.040 --> 0:14:42.920 Like, let this guy go, you know, create jobs for people. 0:14:43.000 --> 0:14:45.960 Let him go build his community. The woman never looked 0:14:45.960 --> 0:14:47.840 at me once an hour and a half later at 0:14:47.840 --> 0:14:49.720 five pm, of course, then it was time for her 0:14:49.720 --> 0:14:51.360 to go home for the day. So four hours into 0:14:51.360 --> 0:14:53.640 this thing, she sends them in two to four years 0:14:54.080 --> 0:14:56.280 and stay prison for popping to will, for. 0:14:56.360 --> 0:14:59.720 Popping a will. Who couldn't believe that? Oh? Had he? 0:15:00.040 --> 0:15:01.480 You know, Mick West, he's a rocket, wants to be 0:15:01.560 --> 0:15:05.680 talking's his eyes are wording up. I'm like crying like 0:15:05.720 --> 0:15:06.400 a little bitch. 0:15:06.720 --> 0:15:09.520 Okay, And like I watched him taking his watch off 0:15:09.520 --> 0:15:11.920 and giving his wallet, giving his shit to his mom. 0:15:12.200 --> 0:15:13.720 He's like a wore two pero under her. That's what 0:15:13.800 --> 0:15:14.840 happens when you go to jogstaw. 0:15:14.880 --> 0:15:18.720 I'm like, fuck, no, so I didn't know Desert Press 0:15:18.800 --> 0:15:21.320 at all when this happens, Like I met her for 0:15:21.360 --> 0:15:24.200 the first time in the court that day, I'm like, hey, 0:15:24.400 --> 0:15:26.320 like I said to his mom, I want I'm getting 0:15:26.360 --> 0:15:27.920 him out of prison. I won't stop tak us at person, 0:15:28.000 --> 0:15:30.320 no idea what I'm doing. There's this Hey, I'm in 0:15:30.400 --> 0:15:33.200 Desert Press, I run Rock Nation. You know I'm gonna 0:15:33.200 --> 0:15:35.600 get him out of presents a great Let's work together, 0:15:35.640 --> 0:15:39.600 and jay Z and dead stuffed up in the biggest ways. 0:15:39.760 --> 0:15:41.720 At the end of the day, there's nobody better than 0:15:41.800 --> 0:15:44.680 des and you know, we just you know, we. 0:15:44.760 --> 0:15:46.320 Kind of did it together. She did more of it, 0:15:46.360 --> 0:15:47.080 but we did it together. 0:15:47.160 --> 0:15:49.360 We didn't stop till five and a half months later 0:15:49.360 --> 0:15:52.320 he got this the uh Supreme courtbound somebody you ordered 0:15:52.320 --> 0:15:53.520 his release and ultimately all the. 0:15:53.560 --> 0:15:55.720 Charges got dropped. So it just shows you. 0:15:55.880 --> 0:15:59.560 Now, this led so not only your business and the 0:15:59.560 --> 0:16:03.360 major friendship with Dez and jay Z, but it also 0:16:03.480 --> 0:16:07.680 left to the reform. Well, you got involved with freeing 0:16:07.800 --> 0:16:11.200 people that were all tell them stuf about the reform. Look, 0:16:11.400 --> 0:16:12.320 I'm an entrepreneur. 0:16:12.360 --> 0:16:14.200 So the end of the day, when you see Shida 0:16:14.280 --> 0:16:16.280 Zambre is kind of like your instincts, it's kind of 0:16:16.320 --> 0:16:19.720 deal with it. So I remember Josh Shapiro is now 0:16:19.760 --> 0:16:22.840 the governor of Pennsylvania. He kept saying to me during 0:16:22.880 --> 0:16:26.800 this thing, I know you just want to get Meek 0:16:27.280 --> 0:16:30.600 out of prison, but like there's so many other people 0:16:30.600 --> 0:16:33.280 that impacted by this. You guys got when he gets out, 0:16:33.320 --> 0:16:35.480 you guys got to do something about this. As soon 0:16:35.520 --> 0:16:39.240 as you got out of prison, myself, Meek Jay Robert 0:16:39.280 --> 0:16:41.520 Garth Dez talked and said, like, we got to fix 0:16:41.560 --> 0:16:44.400 the underlying problem. So we we right away knew we're 0:16:44.400 --> 0:16:45.720 going to create the Reform Alliance. 0:16:46.160 --> 0:16:47.840 We've now created a pathway. 0:16:47.880 --> 0:16:49.280 So there's four and a half million people that were 0:16:49.320 --> 0:16:52.160 on probation for at the time in twenty eighteen when 0:16:52.160 --> 0:16:54.600 he got out. We've now, I mean, we've created a 0:16:54.600 --> 0:16:56.800 passway for more than one point one million people to 0:16:56.880 --> 0:16:58.760 get off of probation and for all by changing the 0:16:58.840 --> 0:17:02.440 underlying broken laws. And I got saysling. We're humbled to 0:17:02.480 --> 0:17:04.920 do it. It was a problem that needed addressing. We've 0:17:04.960 --> 0:17:08.040 made a lot of progress during different political environments too, 0:17:08.359 --> 0:17:11.800 Republicans Democrats all working together. Is this is something you 0:17:11.880 --> 0:17:13.560 need to be done, and you know, we built a 0:17:13.560 --> 0:17:16.399 great organization. The organization, by the way, it's well funded, 0:17:16.400 --> 0:17:19.040 it's got a great team led by Jessica Jackson, and 0:17:19.400 --> 0:17:21.240 you know we're gonna keep fighting tirelessly for the kind 0:17:21.240 --> 0:17:23.480 of the voice lesson. You know, I'm proud that we started. 0:17:23.520 --> 0:17:25.760 And at the end of the day, it was inspired 0:17:25.800 --> 0:17:28.560 by me. It was started by you know, Meek and 0:17:28.680 --> 0:17:30.520 Jay and Robert Daz myself. 0:17:30.520 --> 0:17:32.520 But you know it's it's off to the races and 0:17:32.520 --> 0:17:39.200 we're proud of it. Why that's awesome. 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