WEBVTT - The Pressure

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<v Speaker 1>My welcome Stuff to Blow Your Mind, a production of

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<v Speaker 1>I Heart Radios How Stuff Works. Hey, welcome to Stuff

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<v Speaker 1>to Blow your Mind. My name is Robert Lamb, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Joe McCormick. Robert. There's a kind of mistake we

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<v Speaker 1>all make in our modern electrified homes, and this is

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<v Speaker 1>microwave mistakes. What's the worst microwave mistake you've ever made? Oh? Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know about the worst. I mean, generally it

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<v Speaker 1>just involves megan a mass like splat splattering something, not

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<v Speaker 1>covering something appropriately, so you have to not only remove

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<v Speaker 1>your food from the microwave, but then scrub it out.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember there was one day not too long ago.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it might have been like on New Year's

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<v Speaker 1>this year or something that within the same day, I

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<v Speaker 1>think I tried to microwave butter to melt it and

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<v Speaker 1>it exploded in the microwave. But then I also tried

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<v Speaker 1>to microwave a soft boiled egg to heat it up

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<v Speaker 1>and it exploded. Uh so, I don't know. There's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of exploding the microwave. But there's another kind of

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<v Speaker 1>microwave mistake where we use this radio range of ultramodern

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<v Speaker 1>convenience uh to to maybe maybe do a little less

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<v Speaker 1>troublesome damage than than blowing up an egg, but at

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<v Speaker 1>least causing frustration. When you warp lids of containers in

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<v Speaker 1>the microwave. You've ever done this? Uh? So you know

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<v Speaker 1>you want to heat up some food, maybe you just

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<v Speaker 1>want to sterilize a bowl full of mud or something,

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<v Speaker 1>So you put it in a glass bowl with a

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<v Speaker 1>tight fitting lid or you know, tight fitting plastic, tight

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<v Speaker 1>fitting rubber lid. Uh. You know you maybe shouldn't do this,

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<v Speaker 1>but you forget, but you cover it up with something

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<v Speaker 1>that fits tight, and you microwave it and it gets

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<v Speaker 1>piping hot, and you leave it standing in the microwave

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<v Speaker 1>for a minute, and then when you check it, the

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<v Speaker 1>lid or the plastic wrap or whatever you've used to

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<v Speaker 1>cover it has been sucked down into a concave depression

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<v Speaker 1>over the food. It has turned your you know, if

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<v Speaker 1>it's a permanent lid, it has warped it maybe or

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<v Speaker 1>you've caused trouble. And the way we normally think about

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<v Speaker 1>these kind of things is that when something like this happens,

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<v Speaker 1>the lid or the plow stick was sucked down. But

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<v Speaker 1>think about why is that happening. What's actually happening there?

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<v Speaker 1>What's the attractive force pulling the lid of the container

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<v Speaker 1>down into the food? Obviously it's not gravity, right, The

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<v Speaker 1>food isn't like a star pulling things into its orbit.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's not electromagnetism. The food isn't a magnet attracting

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<v Speaker 1>an opposite charge. It's not like the strong force that

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<v Speaker 1>holds atomic nuclei together. So what's the attraction there? So

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<v Speaker 1>superdnse potatoes are out of the question. No, though those

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<v Speaker 1>can be a big problem. That's why when you make

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<v Speaker 1>a big potato, fun fact, you should cut it open

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<v Speaker 1>right after you pull it out of the oven. Don't

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<v Speaker 1>leave it to sit there forever it turns into a rock. No. Counterintuitively, strangely,

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<v Speaker 1>what's happening when that lid gets pushed down is the

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<v Speaker 1>atmosphere pressing on it. When the lid bends, what you're

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<v Speaker 1>witnessing is the weight of the air we breathe. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's a powerful Wait, it really is, but we don't

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<v Speaker 1>norm normally notice it. Like, how come the atmosphere only

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<v Speaker 1>pushes a depression into the lid after it's been microwave?

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<v Speaker 1>Why doesn't the atmosphere, bend the lid when it's just

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<v Speaker 1>sitting on the counter at room temperature. One thing you

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<v Speaker 1>might be thinking is, okay, maybe it heats the lid

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<v Speaker 1>up and this like sort of melts it or something

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<v Speaker 1>and makes it more appliable. But no, that that's not

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily the case. It's because of the power of condensation.

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<v Speaker 1>After you microwave a bowl of food containing water, a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of the water in that food is turned into

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<v Speaker 1>steam or water vapor. And of course when liquid is

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<v Speaker 1>turned into a gas, it not only becomes hot, but

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<v Speaker 1>it expands. It takes up more space, and it expands

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<v Speaker 1>to fill evenly all the space it can. So the

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<v Speaker 1>spots inside the sealed bowl are not occupied that are

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<v Speaker 1>not occupied by food, they get filled with hot, high

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<v Speaker 1>pressure steam. And of course we know one thing that

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<v Speaker 1>can happen here as as water turns to steam inside

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<v Speaker 1>a sealed container is it can make the container explode.

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<v Speaker 1>In some cases, that's what happened I think with my egg,

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<v Speaker 1>Like the yolk is turning to steam and it had

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<v Speaker 1>to expand, and so the egg blew up. But if

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<v Speaker 1>your container doesn't expand, it just fills with high pressure steam.

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<v Speaker 1>And then when the microwaving stops, the contents of the

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<v Speaker 1>bowl cool down again. And what happens, well, the steam

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<v Speaker 1>that had filled all these voids in the bowl starts

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<v Speaker 1>to lose energy, it cools down, it gradually converts back

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<v Speaker 1>into liquid water. And this process, of course, is known

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<v Speaker 1>as condensation. It's the same reason that dew forms on

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<v Speaker 1>the outside of your cold soda can on a warm day.

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<v Speaker 1>The cold can is converting water vapor in the air

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<v Speaker 1>into liquid by cooling it. But if the bowl in

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<v Speaker 1>the microwave has a tight fitting lid, or it's wrapped

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<v Speaker 1>tightly in plastic, what happens when the water converts from

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<v Speaker 1>a gas back into a liquid while it takes up

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<v Speaker 1>less space and it exerts less pressure on the inside

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<v Speaker 1>of the bowl. Thus, a covered bowl becomes a low

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<v Speaker 1>pressure environment or a partial vacuum. Without air pushing back

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<v Speaker 1>at the same pressure on the lid from below. The

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<v Speaker 1>atmosphere leans hard on the it and it presses it

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<v Speaker 1>down into the evacuated space, the vacuum, punching it into

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<v Speaker 1>that bowl shape. So what you're seeing when the when

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<v Speaker 1>the lid bends down is the footprint of the atmosphere,

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<v Speaker 1>and of course The reason the lid doesn't normally warp

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<v Speaker 1>informa bowl when it's sitting on the counter or whatever

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<v Speaker 1>is that the pressure is equalized on both sides. There's

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<v Speaker 1>atmosphere below it as well. The partial vacuum created by

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<v Speaker 1>the condensation of steam changes. That evacuates the space in

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<v Speaker 1>the bowl as the steam condenses into water, and then

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<v Speaker 1>the atmosphere comes in. And this is such a This

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<v Speaker 1>a wonderful, mundane little way of seeing something strange and amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>The power of atmospheric pressure. Yeah, you know it, you know. Normally,

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<v Speaker 1>when I observed this, my main thought is, oh, I

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<v Speaker 1>hope I don't break the plastic top to my glass

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<v Speaker 1>of food storage container, because I'm down to like one

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<v Speaker 1>plastic top. They're all eight glass containers. But but yeah, this,

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<v Speaker 1>this is an interesting way of looking at it, to

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<v Speaker 1>see it as the footprint of the atmosphere, the weight

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<v Speaker 1>of air actually observed. It's funny how it can be

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<v Speaker 1>so powerful and we're so blind to it most of

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<v Speaker 1>the time. I want to tell a related story about

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<v Speaker 1>a about a seventeenth century Prussian mayor. How about we

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<v Speaker 1>go there. Okay, so this guy is named Otto von Garica.

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<v Speaker 1>He lived from sixteen o two to sixteen eighty six.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh. In addition to being a lawyer and a politician,

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<v Speaker 1>he was, as I said, a mayor. He was an

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<v Speaker 1>important engineer and physicist in history, and he had all

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<v Speaker 1>kinds of scientific accomplishments. For example, in the sixteen sixties

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<v Speaker 1>he invented what is believed to be the world's first

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<v Speaker 1>known electrostatic generator, which is a device for generating electrical potential. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>we talked a bit, you remember, Robert, about the history

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<v Speaker 1>of electrostatic generators on the I think it was the

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<v Speaker 1>episode about the electric arc thesis, right, Yes, I believe so. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>But for a brief refresher, these early generators were generally

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<v Speaker 1>based on friction, kind of like how you can build

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<v Speaker 1>up an electric charge on yourself by scuffing around on

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<v Speaker 1>a carpet. Von Garrika discovered that he could build up

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<v Speaker 1>a charge on a ball of sulfur if he rotated

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<v Speaker 1>it rapidly with a crank to rub against things. And

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<v Speaker 1>he eventually discovered that building up a charge in this

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<v Speaker 1>way could cause the sulfur ball to glow in the dark.

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<v Speaker 1>But this wasn't Von Gerrika's only cool invention. Demonstrating like

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<v Speaker 1>the potential of vast hidden powers in the world. He

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<v Speaker 1>was also interested in the power of vacuums and voids,

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<v Speaker 1>and in the weight of the atmosphere, which, as we

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<v Speaker 1>were just saying, usually goes unnoticed by us. So Von

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<v Speaker 1>Garrika was the mayor of a city called Magdeburg, and

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<v Speaker 1>around sixteen forty nine or sixteen fifty or so he

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<v Speaker 1>invented the first known air pump which could be used

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<v Speaker 1>to remove gas from a closed container. And by using

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<v Speaker 1>this pump to create a partial vacuum, he was able

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<v Speaker 1>to conduct fascinating research on the nature of voids in

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<v Speaker 1>empty space. For example, he discovered that light could pass

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<v Speaker 1>through a vacuum, but sound could not, and like so,

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<v Speaker 1>given what was known the in the sixteen fifties, how

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<v Speaker 1>could that be? You know what? What was causing that fascinating?

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<v Speaker 1>But then also in a series of public experiments following this,

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<v Speaker 1>he demonstrated the power of a vacuum, or more precisely,

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<v Speaker 1>the power exerted on a vacuum by air pressure, in

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<v Speaker 1>a really awesome way, with an experimental apparatus that came

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<v Speaker 1>to be known as the Magdeburg hemispheres. So Von Garica

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<v Speaker 1>had this air pump of his and he created two

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<v Speaker 1>precisely fitted copper hemispheres to like hollow half spheres that together,

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<v Speaker 1>if you fit them together, they would make a closed

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<v Speaker 1>hollow sphere that was about thirty five and a half

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<v Speaker 1>centimeters in diameter. And these spheres were constructed with a

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<v Speaker 1>valve so that they could when they were pressed together

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<v Speaker 1>to create an enclosure. Varna could attach his air pump

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<v Speaker 1>to the valve to force the gas out of the

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<v Speaker 1>hollow sphere and create a partial vacuum inside. And here's

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<v Speaker 1>the mind blowing part. Once the gas had been pumped

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<v Speaker 1>out of the space between the two hemispheres, these copper

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<v Speaker 1>domes could not be pulled apart, even when they were

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<v Speaker 1>tied to horses pulling them in opposite directions. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's and I want to be clear, like, there's no

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<v Speaker 1>device holding the two hemispheres together. They weren't glued or

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<v Speaker 1>latched together or anything. You just press them together with

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<v Speaker 1>a relatively air tight seal, pump the air out of

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<v Speaker 1>the middle, and they stay so stuck together that even

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<v Speaker 1>horses pulling at each end couldn't separate them. So we

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<v Speaker 1>ask again, what's holding these half spheres together, just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like what's pulling the lid of the microwave container down,

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<v Speaker 1>just as was the case with the bull in the microwave.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're imagining some force inside the spheres sucking them together,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not accurate. There is no real sucking in a way,

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<v Speaker 1>sucking is an illusion which you know there'll be a

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<v Speaker 1>good motivational poster almost um. The real force here was

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<v Speaker 1>the weight of the atmosphere, the pressure difference between the

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<v Speaker 1>outside of the sphere and the inside. So you can

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<v Speaker 1>sort of imagine the Earth's atmosphere reaching down with two huge,

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<v Speaker 1>invisible fingers and pressing the two hemispheres together while the

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<v Speaker 1>horses tried to pull them apart. And to separate the

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<v Speaker 1>spheres you would have to overpower that push of the atmosphere. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, an easy way to separate them is just

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<v Speaker 1>to just open the valve and allow the air to

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<v Speaker 1>fill the sphere um and then of course they'd come

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<v Speaker 1>apart instantly because the pressure pushing out from the inside

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<v Speaker 1>would be the same as the pressure pushing in from

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<v Speaker 1>the outside. And that I love these kind of experiments,

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<v Speaker 1>the kind that suddenly demonstrate in sharp relief amazing forces

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<v Speaker 1>that are always there. They're always present, but they're invisible

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<v Speaker 1>to us from moment to moment. An atmosphere pressure is

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<v Speaker 1>like this, it's our whole world. We spend our whole

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<v Speaker 1>lives in it. We evolved in it, we're adapted to it.

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<v Speaker 1>It permeates our bodies, so we don't feel or notice it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just completely invisible to us. But if you merely

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<v Speaker 1>create a vacuum inside two half spheres, the familiar becomes

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<v Speaker 1>strange again, and these fingers of the atmosphere come pressing

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<v Speaker 1>down and the sky becomes so heavy it's kind of frightening. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>let's break things down a little bit into about pressure itself.

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<v Speaker 1>What is pressure? Well, pressure is actually fairly simple. Has

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<v Speaker 1>two components. It has force, and it has an area

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<v Speaker 1>over which that force is applied. And this is why

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<v Speaker 1>you often hear pressure explained in terms of like pounds

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<v Speaker 1>per square inch. Right, So pressure is not Pressure is

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<v Speaker 1>not just the amount of force pressing on something, but

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<v Speaker 1>where that force is being applied. So one way of

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about this is like, why do so many weapons

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<v Speaker 1>have sharp points and blades or not just weapons, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean any kind of like piercing object it's because they

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<v Speaker 1>take the force of your swing or thrust or push

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<v Speaker 1>and they apply it to a smaller surface area, increasing

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<v Speaker 1>the pressure on that surface area and usually doing more

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<v Speaker 1>damage or getting through what you're trying to separate. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>when we start then up applying this to Earth's atmosphere, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it really gets fascinating. Uh. And this is a topic

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<v Speaker 1>I I really enjoyed researching several years back when I

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<v Speaker 1>wrote a piece called How Weather Works for How Stuff Works,

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<v Speaker 1>probably one of my favorite articles that ever worked on UM.

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<v Speaker 1>And one of my sources on that was a book

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<v Speaker 1>called The Atmosphere Planetary Heat Engine from twenty from two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand and seven by Gregory L. Vault and so member

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<v Speaker 1>some of these figures are his figures, I believe from

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<v Speaker 1>that book. But UM, the Earth's atmosphere, if you were

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<v Speaker 1>to weigh it, it would weigh in at a whopping

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<v Speaker 1>five point five quadrillion tons. That's a fourteen zeros trailing

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<v Speaker 1>after it. So you know that's that's a lot of mass.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's actually it's the driving force behind air pressure.

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<v Speaker 1>So one one analogy that I kind of like to

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<v Speaker 1>turn to here is like if you imagine a squad

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<v Speaker 1>of cheerleaders forming a human pyramid. The cheerleaders on the

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<v Speaker 1>bottom have to bear the weight of all the other

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<v Speaker 1>cheerleaders on top of them, while the cheerleader on the

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<v Speaker 1>top doesn't have to bear, you know, any of the weight.

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<v Speaker 1>A similar situation exists in the atmosphere. The air is

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<v Speaker 1>least pressurized at the edge of space, where it's a

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<v Speaker 1>little or nothing pressing it down. The air at sea level, however,

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<v Speaker 1>is weighed down by all the air on top of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Um like those pool poor cheerleaders shoring up the pyramid.

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<v Speaker 1>All this pressure presses the molecules in the lower atmosphere

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<v Speaker 1>closer together, and that means that the higher the air pressure,

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<v Speaker 1>the greater the air density. And for this reason alone,

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<v Speaker 1>fifty of Earth's air exists below an altitude of three

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<v Speaker 1>miles or five kilometers, right. And that's one reason it

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<v Speaker 1>actually becomes kind of difficult to say exactly where the

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<v Speaker 1>atmosphere stops, right, because the atmosphere doesn't there's not like

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<v Speaker 1>a dividing line where it stops. We've kind of imposed

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<v Speaker 1>some arbitrary dividing lines where we say, well, conventionally the

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<v Speaker 1>atmosphere stops here, but it just keeps getting thinner and

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<v Speaker 1>thinner until you go up until you basically realize, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess I would call this empty space. Yeah, that's right.

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<v Speaker 1>There's not like a membrane or anything up there. So

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<v Speaker 1>standing at sea level, the atmosphere exerts, on average, a

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<v Speaker 1>pressure of fourteen point seven pounds or six point seven

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<v Speaker 1>kilograms against every square inch of your skin. Now, I've

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<v Speaker 1>also seen this figure slightly differently before the National Oceanic

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<v Speaker 1>and Atmospheric Administration. Uh they say fourteen point five pounds

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<v Speaker 1>per square inch, and uh per square inch it's p

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<v Speaker 1>s I. So when you hear say P s I later,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what we're referring to. I find this interesting to

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<v Speaker 1>think about. Okay, fifteen pounds per square inch again that

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<v Speaker 1>we just totally take for granted. And I know each

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<v Speaker 1>of us recently acquired a fifteen pound gravity blanket. This

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<v Speaker 1>is not a paid plug, not a paid plug, but

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<v Speaker 1>just to to illustrate, it's a blanket the ways fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>pounds and you pull it over your body and it

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<v Speaker 1>presses down on you and this kind of like uh

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<v Speaker 1>comforting in human hug and uh So when I was

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<v Speaker 1>researching this, and I was adding that into my notes

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<v Speaker 1>about the fifteen pounds, I was like, oh my goodness,

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta I gotta bust the gravity blanket out and

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<v Speaker 1>and feel what fifteen pounds feels like, or rather what

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen additional pounds feels like. Yeah, but there's one of

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<v Speaker 1>those for every square inch of your body. Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So it's it's crazy to think about that. Now we've

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<v Speaker 1>already sort of explored this, but you you might begin

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<v Speaker 1>to wonder about Okay, so there's a lot of square

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<v Speaker 1>inches on my body, uh, and fifteen pounds alone that

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<v Speaker 1>can start to feel pretty heavy, even distributed just over

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<v Speaker 1>the entire thing in a gravity blanket. How come I

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<v Speaker 1>don't feel just constantly weighed down by the atmosphere. Why

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<v Speaker 1>isn't it a crushing force that prevents me from doing anything? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess there's kind of like two answers to that.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, one is this is the norm, this is

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<v Speaker 1>what you are used to. And then there's also you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I've I've seen it written. You know that basically you're

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<v Speaker 1>the fluids in your body are pressing out with the

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<v Speaker 1>same force, so everything is there's equilibrium there, right, we

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<v Speaker 1>are at equilibrium in this pressure. It's what our bodies

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<v Speaker 1>are evolved to existent. If you brought in, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>an alien from outer space that I was living, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. I was living in a super low pressure environment.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how its body had been formed, and then you

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<v Speaker 1>brought it to the surface of Earth, it might well

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<v Speaker 1>be crushed like a like a tin can a right,

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<v Speaker 1>and then there might be issues with with the density

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<v Speaker 1>because one of the issues too, is that if you

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<v Speaker 1>venture above sea level air pressure uh, and it's corresponding

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<v Speaker 1>density will decrease. That's why it's more difficult to breathe

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<v Speaker 1>a higher altitudes. Yeah, that's why it would be you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you've you've probably heard stats like if you were to

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<v Speaker 1>teleport to the top of Mount Everest, Uh, the difficulty

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<v Speaker 1>you would you would have in getting enough air into

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<v Speaker 1>your body to stay alive. Oh yeah, And this is

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<v Speaker 1>this is something that's really interesting. I want to linger

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<v Speaker 1>on this for a moment, because we've established that we've

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<v Speaker 1>got this really powerful, fascinating force of atmospheric pressure always

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<v Speaker 1>affecting us, but we don't normally notice it because we're

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<v Speaker 1>we're acclimatized to it, we're in equilibrium with it um

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<v Speaker 1>and we only normally notice its effects by its absence.

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<v Speaker 1>When we're at low pressure, that's when when you start

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<v Speaker 1>to notice what air pressure is. And of course, as

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<v Speaker 1>you're saying, when you climb a mountain and reach a higher,

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<v Speaker 1>high enough altitude, atmospheric pressure is lower. There's less atmosphere

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<v Speaker 1>sussing down from above, so the air is less dense,

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<v Speaker 1>meaning every time you take a breath, you literally get

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<v Speaker 1>fewer oxygen molecules. They're just it's less dense. You're getting

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<v Speaker 1>less with each pull. Yeah. This is also the very

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<v Speaker 1>reason that in your airplane safety videos they stress that

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<v Speaker 1>if the cabin loses pressure, because little masks are going

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<v Speaker 1>to fall down and you need to put them on

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<v Speaker 1>in order to keep breathing right or you will very

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<v Speaker 1>quickly encounter hypoxia, you know, like lack of oxygen and

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<v Speaker 1>the breaths you take, and that of course can lead

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<v Speaker 1>to all kinds of bad stuff in the body. You

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<v Speaker 1>need oxygen continuously immediately. And of course, so what this

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<v Speaker 1>means when you get up to a high altitude, as

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<v Speaker 1>it can lead to a heavy breathing in order to

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<v Speaker 1>compensate for the lack of oxygen and each breath, uh

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<v Speaker 1>and all kinds of stuff weakness, dizziness, potentially dehydration or

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<v Speaker 1>even loss of consciousness. I've experienced high altitude environments. I

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<v Speaker 1>assume you have at some point as well, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's a kind of alarming feeling, you know, like you

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<v Speaker 1>suddenly go up like ten ft worth of stairs and

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<v Speaker 1>like normally that wouldn't be a problem, but you're start

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<v Speaker 1>you're feeling lightheaded. And I remember encountering this on a

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<v Speaker 1>trip to Arizona where we be We began in Phoenix

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<v Speaker 1>and then we were heading up um, you know, rising

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<v Speaker 1>in altitude as we were heading eventually towards the canyon,

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<v Speaker 1>the Grand Canyon, UH. And I think we're somewhere in

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<v Speaker 1>your Flagstaff where we stopped, got out and had his

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful walk. The leaves were golden. But I also think

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<v Speaker 1>we were like it was like we we that the

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<v Speaker 1>altitude changed as such that we felt maybe like a

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<v Speaker 1>little more exhausted by the walk and everything seemed like

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<v Speaker 1>a little more magical in a weird way. Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I definitely experienced this sum when I was up up

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<v Speaker 1>in Canada, when like we went on the hike to

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<v Speaker 1>the Burgess Shale National Park area and uh to see

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<v Speaker 1>the trilobyte beds up there, which if you haven't done,

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<v Speaker 1>I highly recommend, but researched the hike before you do it.

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<v Speaker 1>But also I've experienced this like in New Mexico and

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<v Speaker 1>the mountains around Albuquerque and Santa Fe which can get

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<v Speaker 1>really high elevation sition and you really start to feel it.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, altitude sickness can vary a lot in where

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<v Speaker 1>it sets in. It's usually said that it begins somewhere

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<v Speaker 1>around fifteen hundred to three thousand meters above sea level,

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<v Speaker 1>but it varies a lot from person to person. And

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of wonder about something. This got me thinking

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<v Speaker 1>about the prevalence of beliefs about the sacred or religious

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<v Speaker 1>significance of mountain tops. Like so, there are tons and

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<v Speaker 1>tons of examples of sacred mountain tops or beliefs about

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<v Speaker 1>the religious significance of mountain peaks around the world. There's,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, you know, familiar one to us, mount Mount Olympus,

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<v Speaker 1>the home to the gods in Greek mythology. But they're

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<v Speaker 1>just literally hundreds of sacred and holy mountains around the

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<v Speaker 1>world that are either homes of the gods or peaks

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<v Speaker 1>of sacred pilgrimage, or places where people go to meditate,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, near mountain peaks, mountain top monasteries considered sacred

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<v Speaker 1>in some forms of Buddhism and all that. Um I

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<v Speaker 1>was thinking about Mount Kailash or Kailassa into bed Ah.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're saying mountaintops where the air is thin and

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<v Speaker 1>the gods are near. Yeah, I wonder. Now I'm not sure,

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<v Speaker 1>but there could be a lot of reasons for belief

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<v Speaker 1>in the mountaintops being homes of the gods or sacred

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<v Speaker 1>places in general. And I think there's one clearer piece

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<v Speaker 1>of evidence that not all beliefs about sacred mountain tops

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<v Speaker 1>have to do with altitude, because many of the holy

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<v Speaker 1>mountains of the world aren't even that tall. I was

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about there's one in Japan called, I think Mountain

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<v Speaker 1>Mihwa that's like not even five So it's clearly not

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<v Speaker 1>like an altitude sickness thing going on there. So there's

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<v Speaker 1>obviously there are obviously other things contributing to these types

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<v Speaker 1>of beliefs. But I wonder if one factor contributing to

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<v Speaker 1>the widespread prevalence of belief in holy mountains is altitude sickness.

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<v Speaker 1>As you climb toward the top of a very tall mountain,

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<v Speaker 1>you're very likely to experience heavy breathing, weakness, dizziness, dehydration,

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<v Speaker 1>loss of consciousness. And I can even imagine these like

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<v Speaker 1>mundane types of physiological obstacles presenting too ancient mountain climbers

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<v Speaker 1>a kind of invisible power of magic or repelling force

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<v Speaker 1>that attempts to bar entry or repel you from the

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<v Speaker 1>sacred domain of the gods. Interesting. Oh yeah, I like

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<v Speaker 1>this hypothesis and actually does go farther than that. Like

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<v Speaker 1>Apart from the mere hypoxic conditions caused by low air

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<v Speaker 1>pressure at altitude, there are plenty of records of high altitudes,

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<v Speaker 1>especially like above six thousand meters according to a nine

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<v Speaker 1>study by Bruger at all that I was looking at

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<v Speaker 1>high altitudes causing fascinating psychological effects like so esthetic illusions,

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<v Speaker 1>which are when you imagine there are distortions in the

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<v Speaker 1>schema of your body and various forms of hallucinations such

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<v Speaker 1>as hearing voices. You know people hearing voices on everest

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<v Speaker 1>You might have ye, definitely yeah, Or there's a common

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<v Speaker 1>one of sensing the presence of an unseen companion on

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<v Speaker 1>the climb. Sometimes known as third Man's and so I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know about that, but that's an interesting hypothesis to

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<v Speaker 1>work with, And I think maybe we should come back

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<v Speaker 1>and do a whole episode in the future about the

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<v Speaker 1>science of sacred mountains and mountain top psychology and and

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<v Speaker 1>maybe explore a little bit further whether there's something to

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<v Speaker 1>this idea. Huh uh. It makes me wonder too about

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<v Speaker 1>the science fictional applications here where you could have say,

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<v Speaker 1>a society where um, they basically have a low air

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<v Speaker 1>density chambers in which one uh visits to to meditate

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<v Speaker 1>and receive the gods. Oh yeah, I wonder kind of

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<v Speaker 1>a riff on a recent Peter Watts short story that

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<v Speaker 1>I read called a Word for Heathens. Oh man, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you made me read that one. That was great. It's

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<v Speaker 1>sort of uh well, I don't want to spoil what

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<v Speaker 1>it's about. If you're into Peter Watts, you should check

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<v Speaker 1>it out. Yeah, yeah, it's it's in his a short

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<v Speaker 1>story collection of his. It came out in recent years.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Well, on that note, we're gonna take a

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<v Speaker 1>quick break. But when we come back, we're gonna go

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<v Speaker 1>underwater and we're gonna talk about water pressure. Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>thank alright, we're back. All right. So we've been talking

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<v Speaker 1>about atmospheric pressure so far. I don't know if we

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<v Speaker 1>ever really announced the topic today. We we just generally

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to talk about some thoughts about pressure pressurized environments

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<v Speaker 1>or unpressurized environments, and so we've been talking so far

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<v Speaker 1>about the hidden effects of atmospheric pressure. But we should

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<v Speaker 1>talk about water pressure because that's where the real pressure

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<v Speaker 1>comes in on Earth. Absolutely, So yeah, when we go

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<v Speaker 1>into water, pressure increases. And because the ocean is also

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<v Speaker 1>a massive layer on the Earth, held in place by gravity,

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<v Speaker 1>and it weighs a lot as well. Uh, estimated weight

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<v Speaker 1>of the ocean is generally generally's generally the standard estimation

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<v Speaker 1>is three hundred and twenty six million trillion gallons. That's

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<v Speaker 1>three two six with eighteen zeros on it. Zeros it is.

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<v Speaker 1>But by the way, this is a something that is

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<v Speaker 1>that that I found kind of fascinate. Water is practically incompressible,

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<v Speaker 1>but it can be compressed with great difficulty for industrial purposes. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess I've usually seen it expressed as liquid water

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<v Speaker 1>being incompressible, whereas gas is compressible. Yeah, here's another fun

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<v Speaker 1>fact about just the size of the ocean. If you

0:24:03.040 --> 0:24:06.439
<v Speaker 1>removed all the continents and just had our oceans. Uh,

0:24:06.520 --> 0:24:09.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, the global ocean itself covering a uniform plane

0:24:09.840 --> 0:24:13.040
<v Speaker 1>of rock. The entire planet would be covered in a

0:24:13.160 --> 0:24:16.359
<v Speaker 1>two mile deep ocean. That's just how much there is.

0:24:17.280 --> 0:24:21.520
<v Speaker 1>Um starts to make you a little nervous. Yeah, so um.

0:24:21.800 --> 0:24:25.080
<v Speaker 1>Basically though, everything I said earlier about about the cheerleaders

0:24:25.080 --> 0:24:27.440
<v Speaker 1>and atmosphere holds true for the for the ocean as well.

0:24:27.640 --> 0:24:30.399
<v Speaker 1>Venture into the sunlit shallows and you feel a gradual

0:24:30.640 --> 0:24:33.400
<v Speaker 1>increase in the pressure around you. Uh. I mean all

0:24:33.400 --> 0:24:35.240
<v Speaker 1>you have to do is go underwater in a swimming

0:24:35.280 --> 0:24:38.440
<v Speaker 1>pool or swim down from the surface while snorkeling to

0:24:38.480 --> 0:24:42.479
<v Speaker 1>fill the pressure on your ear drums. That's hydrostatic pressure

0:24:42.560 --> 0:24:45.399
<v Speaker 1>the foce per unit area exerted by a liquid on

0:24:45.440 --> 0:24:49.560
<v Speaker 1>an object. Now, according to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration,

0:24:49.920 --> 0:24:52.840
<v Speaker 1>for every thirty three feet or ten point zero six

0:24:52.880 --> 0:24:55.960
<v Speaker 1>meters you descend into the ocean, the pressure increases by

0:24:56.040 --> 0:24:58.760
<v Speaker 1>fourteen point five p s I and that was the

0:24:58.800 --> 0:25:01.040
<v Speaker 1>same as the pressure of the atmosphere at sea level,

0:25:01.560 --> 0:25:03.480
<v Speaker 1>which is why this is usually referred to as the

0:25:03.560 --> 0:25:06.239
<v Speaker 1>unit of measure one atmosphere exactly. Yeah, you go down there,

0:25:06.480 --> 0:25:08.880
<v Speaker 1>So you go down thirty three ft, you've got one

0:25:08.920 --> 0:25:11.840
<v Speaker 1>atmosphere of pressure. You go down sixty six ft, you

0:25:11.920 --> 0:25:15.520
<v Speaker 1>have two atmospheres of pressure. So at a depth of

0:25:15.720 --> 0:25:20.600
<v Speaker 1>five thousand meters, the pressure will be approximately five hundred atmospheres,

0:25:20.760 --> 0:25:23.119
<v Speaker 1>or again five hundred times greater than the pressure at

0:25:23.119 --> 0:25:28.040
<v Speaker 1>sea level. The average ocean depth is about twelve thousand,

0:25:28.040 --> 0:25:31.720
<v Speaker 1>five hundred sixty six feet or about thirty eight hundreds,

0:25:31.760 --> 0:25:35.760
<v Speaker 1>so that's roughly three d eight atmospheres of pressure. And

0:25:35.840 --> 0:25:39.680
<v Speaker 1>the greatest ocean depth is what thirty six thousand, two

0:25:39.760 --> 0:25:44.040
<v Speaker 1>hundred feet uh over eleven thousand meters, so that's roughly

0:25:44.400 --> 0:25:48.760
<v Speaker 1>um eleven hundred atmospheres of pressure. And I've seen I've

0:25:48.760 --> 0:25:51.359
<v Speaker 1>seen the pressure at the bottom of the Mariana Trench

0:25:51.440 --> 0:25:54.760
<v Speaker 1>listed as ten seventy a t M. Well that lines

0:25:54.840 --> 0:25:57.160
<v Speaker 1>up about right. But I mean the point here being

0:25:57.960 --> 0:26:00.320
<v Speaker 1>you can't I think it is sort of impossible for

0:26:00.359 --> 0:26:02.800
<v Speaker 1>you to imagine the pressure at the bottom of the ocean.

0:26:03.400 --> 0:26:06.760
<v Speaker 1>You don't have something that it feels like to compare

0:26:06.880 --> 0:26:10.560
<v Speaker 1>that too. But it is crushing pressure. Obviously, if an

0:26:10.640 --> 0:26:13.760
<v Speaker 1>organism were to go into that that was not biologically

0:26:13.800 --> 0:26:16.439
<v Speaker 1>adapted for it, it would be just instant death, just

0:26:16.560 --> 0:26:20.600
<v Speaker 1>destroy you. Yeah, it's it's difficult to really grasp even

0:26:20.640 --> 0:26:23.640
<v Speaker 1>in even in like our better works of science fiction.

0:26:23.640 --> 0:26:26.439
<v Speaker 1>I mean, we mentioned Peter Watts already. Peter Watts has

0:26:26.480 --> 0:26:29.679
<v Speaker 1>written a uh, several different books that take place in

0:26:29.960 --> 0:26:33.080
<v Speaker 1>ocean depths. Is novel Starfish, especially that I've discussed on

0:26:33.119 --> 0:26:35.600
<v Speaker 1>the show before. Uh, there's a frequent mention of the

0:26:35.680 --> 0:26:39.880
<v Speaker 1>underwater habitats and the and the the Rifters on that

0:26:40.000 --> 0:26:43.199
<v Speaker 1>having to cope with three atmospheres of pressure in the

0:26:43.280 --> 0:26:46.920
<v Speaker 1>area that they're um hanging out and uh, and there's

0:26:46.920 --> 0:26:50.200
<v Speaker 1>also in a later Rifter Books Books book he describes

0:26:50.240 --> 0:26:53.120
<v Speaker 1>the crazy cutting potential of a strip of water shooting

0:26:53.119 --> 0:26:55.560
<v Speaker 1>through a crack in a hole, how it could potentially

0:26:55.640 --> 0:26:59.679
<v Speaker 1>slice a character's arm right off. Um. And that is

0:26:59.680 --> 0:27:03.720
<v Speaker 1>that ill? You think that that is accurate? I think so, yeah,

0:27:03.760 --> 0:27:05.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean based on what we're talking about earlier about

0:27:05.920 --> 0:27:11.600
<v Speaker 1>potential industrial um applications of you know, high high pressure

0:27:11.640 --> 0:27:15.879
<v Speaker 1>water streams plus Watts you know, tends to get the

0:27:15.920 --> 0:27:17.959
<v Speaker 1>science right. I tend to. I tend to trust him

0:27:18.400 --> 0:27:21.360
<v Speaker 1>on on the science and his books. Uh well, yeah,

0:27:21.359 --> 0:27:22.760
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I guess I think about the fact that

0:27:22.760 --> 0:27:26.000
<v Speaker 1>there are actually water jet cutters, like we're in industrial

0:27:26.080 --> 0:27:29.960
<v Speaker 1>water saws. There's also an interesting account from William Beebe,

0:27:30.920 --> 0:27:33.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, the the the inventor and tester of the

0:27:33.560 --> 0:27:35.960
<v Speaker 1>bathosphere that we've discussed in the show before. Yeah, if

0:27:35.960 --> 0:27:38.239
<v Speaker 1>you haven't heard our Bathosphere episodes, you should go back

0:27:38.280 --> 0:27:40.320
<v Speaker 1>and listen to those. But the basic idea, right, he

0:27:40.359 --> 0:27:42.520
<v Speaker 1>got in a he got in a giant metal ball

0:27:42.640 --> 0:27:45.399
<v Speaker 1>and just descended into the ocean. Right. And there's a

0:27:45.440 --> 0:27:48.480
<v Speaker 1>there's one he wrote about all of this, And there's

0:27:48.480 --> 0:27:51.560
<v Speaker 1>one particular passage that's frequently brought up as an example

0:27:51.600 --> 0:27:54.880
<v Speaker 1>of extreme uh you know, the the of of extreme

0:27:54.880 --> 0:27:57.639
<v Speaker 1>water pressure and this one that was actually included on

0:27:57.640 --> 0:28:02.240
<v Speaker 1>the n O a A website. Um, but basically this

0:28:02.280 --> 0:28:06.240
<v Speaker 1>would have occurred what I think nineteen thirty two, in

0:28:06.280 --> 0:28:08.919
<v Speaker 1>which they sent the bathosphere down this again this uh,

0:28:09.080 --> 0:28:12.560
<v Speaker 1>this iron beach ball of a of a vessel with

0:28:12.680 --> 0:28:15.879
<v Speaker 1>one window with the one yeah, I think later they

0:28:15.880 --> 0:28:19.960
<v Speaker 1>had three, right, Yeah, but at any rate, uh, just

0:28:20.119 --> 0:28:22.719
<v Speaker 1>like these quartz portals to to look out of, right,

0:28:23.720 --> 0:28:26.080
<v Speaker 1>and uh so they were going to test it out.

0:28:26.240 --> 0:28:29.200
<v Speaker 1>Nobody aboard. They lowered it down to three thousand feet,

0:28:30.080 --> 0:28:33.480
<v Speaker 1>and then the following happens quote. It was apparent that

0:28:33.560 --> 0:28:36.359
<v Speaker 1>something was very wrong, and as the bathosphere swung clear,

0:28:36.640 --> 0:28:38.479
<v Speaker 1>so they just they just pulled it out of the ocean.

0:28:38.520 --> 0:28:41.440
<v Speaker 1>After this descent, I saw a needle of water shooting

0:28:41.480 --> 0:28:44.720
<v Speaker 1>across the face of the port window. Weighing much more

0:28:44.760 --> 0:28:46.960
<v Speaker 1>than she should have, she came over the side and

0:28:47.080 --> 0:28:49.560
<v Speaker 1>was lowered to the deck. Looking through one of the

0:28:49.600 --> 0:28:52.040
<v Speaker 1>good windows, I could see that she was almost full

0:28:52.080 --> 0:28:54.760
<v Speaker 1>of water. They were curious ripples on the top of

0:28:54.800 --> 0:28:56.920
<v Speaker 1>the water, and I knew that the space above was

0:28:56.960 --> 0:28:59.480
<v Speaker 1>filled with air, but such air as no human being

0:28:59.520 --> 0:29:03.200
<v Speaker 1>could tall rate. For a moment, unceasingly, the thin stream

0:29:03.240 --> 0:29:07.040
<v Speaker 1>of water and air drove obliquely across the outer face

0:29:07.080 --> 0:29:09.800
<v Speaker 1>of the quartz. I began to unscrew the giant wing

0:29:09.840 --> 0:29:12.040
<v Speaker 1>bolt in the center of the door, and after the

0:29:12.080 --> 0:29:15.880
<v Speaker 1>first few turns, a strange, high singing came forth. Then

0:29:15.880 --> 0:29:19.800
<v Speaker 1>a fine missed steam like inconsistency shot out a needle

0:29:19.840 --> 0:29:22.680
<v Speaker 1>of steam, then another and another. This warned me that

0:29:22.760 --> 0:29:24.760
<v Speaker 1>I should have sensed when I looked through the window

0:29:24.840 --> 0:29:28.000
<v Speaker 1>that the contents of the bathosphere were under terrific pressure.

0:29:28.360 --> 0:29:30.360
<v Speaker 1>I cleared the deck in front of the door of

0:29:30.400 --> 0:29:33.800
<v Speaker 1>everyone's staff and crew. One motion picture camera was placed

0:29:33.840 --> 0:29:35.920
<v Speaker 1>on the upper deck. In a second when close by

0:29:36.240 --> 0:29:39.360
<v Speaker 1>but well to one side of the bathosphere. Carefully, little

0:29:39.400 --> 0:29:42.120
<v Speaker 1>by little, two of us turned the brass handles soaked

0:29:42.120 --> 0:29:44.640
<v Speaker 1>with the spray, and I listened as the high musical

0:29:44.720 --> 0:29:48.800
<v Speaker 1>tone of impatient, confined elements gradually descended the scale a

0:29:48.920 --> 0:29:52.680
<v Speaker 1>quartertone or less at each slight turn. Realizing what might happen,

0:29:52.760 --> 0:29:55.080
<v Speaker 1>we leaned back as far as possible from the line

0:29:55.120 --> 0:29:58.360
<v Speaker 1>of fire. Suddenly, without the slightest warning, the bolt was

0:29:58.400 --> 0:30:00.720
<v Speaker 1>torn from our hands, and the math of heavy metal

0:30:00.800 --> 0:30:03.400
<v Speaker 1>shot across the deck like a shell from a gun.

0:30:03.720 --> 0:30:07.160
<v Speaker 1>The trajectory was almost straight, and the brass bolt hurtled

0:30:07.160 --> 0:30:10.200
<v Speaker 1>into the steel winch thirty feet across the deck and

0:30:10.280 --> 0:30:13.880
<v Speaker 1>sheared a half inch notch, gouged out by the harder metal.

0:30:14.400 --> 0:30:17.320
<v Speaker 1>This was followed by a solid cylinder of water, which

0:30:17.360 --> 0:30:21.440
<v Speaker 1>slackened after a while to be to a cataract, pouring

0:30:21.520 --> 0:30:24.080
<v Speaker 1>out of the whole of the door. Some air mingled

0:30:24.080 --> 0:30:27.000
<v Speaker 1>with the water, looking like hot steam instead of compressed

0:30:27.000 --> 0:30:30.200
<v Speaker 1>air shooting through the ice cold water. If I had

0:30:30.200 --> 0:30:33.480
<v Speaker 1>been in the way, I would have been decapitated. Wow. So,

0:30:33.960 --> 0:30:36.920
<v Speaker 1>if I'm understanding correctly what he's saying happened here is

0:30:36.960 --> 0:30:38.880
<v Speaker 1>they lowered it down without any people in it, to

0:30:38.960 --> 0:30:41.440
<v Speaker 1>this greater depth than they normally would have allowed it

0:30:41.480 --> 0:30:44.480
<v Speaker 1>to get down to see what would happen, and it

0:30:44.680 --> 0:30:46.760
<v Speaker 1>somehow sprung a leak, despite the fact that this is

0:30:46.800 --> 0:30:50.480
<v Speaker 1>a super reinforced uh you know, like it's not like

0:30:50.520 --> 0:30:52.560
<v Speaker 1>it had a lot of components to fail. It's just

0:30:52.600 --> 0:30:56.720
<v Speaker 1>a metal ball with like extremely thick windows. But something

0:30:56.800 --> 0:30:59.040
<v Speaker 1>happened in the courts of the window and water got

0:30:59.040 --> 0:31:01.440
<v Speaker 1>in and because of the pressure where it was, not

0:31:01.520 --> 0:31:03.800
<v Speaker 1>only did it fill with high pressure water, but the

0:31:03.920 --> 0:31:07.400
<v Speaker 1>air inside it would have been super compressed by the

0:31:07.440 --> 0:31:10.440
<v Speaker 1>water filling it up at such high pressure. So it's

0:31:10.480 --> 0:31:13.040
<v Speaker 1>basically like a bomb they had they had pulled up

0:31:13.080 --> 0:31:15.400
<v Speaker 1>into the boat. Yeah, because normally the idea is it

0:31:15.400 --> 0:31:20.680
<v Speaker 1>contains surface level air pressure within this high pressure ocean

0:31:20.720 --> 0:31:23.800
<v Speaker 1>deep but but it kind of reverse things, right, so

0:31:23.840 --> 0:31:26.600
<v Speaker 1>when they pull it back up, it's this steel ball

0:31:26.960 --> 0:31:31.240
<v Speaker 1>containing all of this high pressured air and water. Yeah,

0:31:31.280 --> 0:31:37.520
<v Speaker 1>there's something very frightening about that, like terrified to think, Um,

0:31:37.560 --> 0:31:39.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't know about just like the the the killing

0:31:40.000 --> 0:31:43.360
<v Speaker 1>power of water and air under such high pressure that

0:31:43.400 --> 0:31:46.719
<v Speaker 1>there aren't like explosives in this thing. There's not like

0:31:46.760 --> 0:31:48.760
<v Speaker 1>a you know, it's not a gun or a bomb

0:31:48.840 --> 0:31:52.400
<v Speaker 1>that has chemicals and it may do it's just the pressure. Yeah,

0:31:52.440 --> 0:31:54.200
<v Speaker 1>well and and but but it's yeah, when you have

0:31:54.280 --> 0:31:59.600
<v Speaker 1>situations through human technology to create this vast deferential like

0:32:00.000 --> 0:32:02.840
<v Speaker 1>a difference in pressure water pressure or air pressure that

0:32:02.880 --> 0:32:06.560
<v Speaker 1>should be separated by dit by greater distances. And indeed

0:32:06.560 --> 0:32:09.240
<v Speaker 1>that's where we see some of the more unfortunate accidents

0:32:09.280 --> 0:32:13.560
<v Speaker 1>that have occurred with like, ah, like rapid deep pressure ization,

0:32:14.440 --> 0:32:16.600
<v Speaker 1>which we may touch on a little bit in a bit,

0:32:16.640 --> 0:32:17.960
<v Speaker 1>but we're not going to get you know, into a

0:32:17.960 --> 0:32:21.640
<v Speaker 1>whole bunch of gordy details on that matter here, well

0:32:21.680 --> 0:32:24.440
<v Speaker 1>except maybe a bit as it concerns fish. Yes, well

0:32:24.440 --> 0:32:27.400
<v Speaker 1>that's true. But uh but but just you know, as

0:32:27.400 --> 0:32:29.360
<v Speaker 1>long as we're talking about atmosphere in the deep here

0:32:29.400 --> 0:32:32.040
<v Speaker 1>that it brings up an important fact that increased pressure

0:32:32.120 --> 0:32:36.280
<v Speaker 1>changes how our body interacts with certain gases, namely nitrogen.

0:32:36.840 --> 0:32:40.120
<v Speaker 1>Increased pressure allows more oxygen and nitrogen to dissolve into

0:32:40.120 --> 0:32:42.040
<v Speaker 1>the blood into the blood stream and it end at

0:32:42.040 --> 0:32:45.800
<v Speaker 1>a mirror a hundred feet. Nitrogen levels can reach dangerous levels,

0:32:45.800 --> 0:32:49.640
<v Speaker 1>resulting in nitrogen narcosis if not managed. Yeah, and this

0:32:49.720 --> 0:32:52.880
<v Speaker 1>actually goes beyond just like respiraated nitrogen and air. There

0:32:52.920 --> 0:32:56.280
<v Speaker 1>are multiple types of molecules and chemicals inside the body

0:32:56.320 --> 0:32:59.400
<v Speaker 1>that actually take on different properties at different pressure. It's

0:32:59.480 --> 0:33:01.840
<v Speaker 1>kind of the same way that if you're experimenting in

0:33:01.880 --> 0:33:04.520
<v Speaker 1>a laboratory, you can change the properties of a chemical

0:33:04.600 --> 0:33:07.920
<v Speaker 1>or molecule by increasing or decreasing its temperature. You can

0:33:07.960 --> 0:33:11.480
<v Speaker 1>also change the properties of a molecule, compound or whatever

0:33:11.520 --> 0:33:15.440
<v Speaker 1>by increasing or decreasing the pressure which it rests. And

0:33:15.560 --> 0:33:17.960
<v Speaker 1>uh and so yeah, we'll we'll talk about that more

0:33:17.960 --> 0:33:19.720
<v Speaker 1>in just a minute. I was looking up, you know,

0:33:19.840 --> 0:33:23.600
<v Speaker 1>a little bit more about the effects of diving on

0:33:23.680 --> 0:33:27.240
<v Speaker 1>the body, and according to the Diver's Alert Network, increased

0:33:27.280 --> 0:33:30.719
<v Speaker 1>levels of oxygen can cause will cause a vasal constriction,

0:33:31.000 --> 0:33:33.880
<v Speaker 1>which increases your blood pressure and reduces your heart rate

0:33:33.920 --> 0:33:36.520
<v Speaker 1>and heart output. So I imagine that just means like

0:33:36.600 --> 0:33:39.760
<v Speaker 1>it's shrinking the blood vessels, right, it's making them tighter.

0:33:40.280 --> 0:33:43.000
<v Speaker 1>They also point out that increased levels of carbon dioxide,

0:33:43.000 --> 0:33:45.880
<v Speaker 1>which may accumulate in the body when you exercise during

0:33:45.880 --> 0:33:49.760
<v Speaker 1>a dive. Uh due to reduced pulmonary ventilation caused by

0:33:49.840 --> 0:33:53.760
<v Speaker 1>dense gases. This can increase the flow of blood to

0:33:53.840 --> 0:33:57.600
<v Speaker 1>your brain, which can speed up oxygen toxicity. If you're

0:33:57.600 --> 0:34:01.720
<v Speaker 1>breathing a hyperoxic gasness mix one with an elevated level

0:34:01.720 --> 0:34:04.240
<v Speaker 1>of oxygen. Okay, so would it be normal? I guess

0:34:04.320 --> 0:34:07.680
<v Speaker 1>that divers would have in their in their breathing apparatus

0:34:07.720 --> 0:34:10.880
<v Speaker 1>what is it called the tanks or whatever, a mixture

0:34:11.040 --> 0:34:14.120
<v Speaker 1>that has more oxygen the normal air does. Yeah, yes,

0:34:14.160 --> 0:34:17.360
<v Speaker 1>I believe. So. I've never been scuba diving, I've I've

0:34:17.440 --> 0:34:20.400
<v Speaker 1>only only done snorkeling. On my recent trip to believe,

0:34:20.520 --> 0:34:22.719
<v Speaker 1>I was around a number of scuba divers and it

0:34:22.880 --> 0:34:25.440
<v Speaker 1>is I did spend a fair amount of time like

0:34:25.480 --> 0:34:28.279
<v Speaker 1>sort of thinking about the differences between the people that

0:34:28.360 --> 0:34:30.080
<v Speaker 1>were there to dive and the people who were there

0:34:30.200 --> 0:34:33.319
<v Speaker 1>to snorkel and um, you know, and a lot of

0:34:33.320 --> 0:34:34.880
<v Speaker 1>it does come down to the fact that like snork

0:34:34.880 --> 0:34:38.920
<v Speaker 1>guing is pretty simple technology. Um and and I love it.

0:34:38.960 --> 0:34:40.759
<v Speaker 1>You know, you're just you're getting the water and you're

0:34:40.800 --> 0:34:44.480
<v Speaker 1>there you don't have to worry about too much. You know,

0:34:44.560 --> 0:34:46.720
<v Speaker 1>you just make sure you're not brushing up against coral

0:34:46.800 --> 0:34:48.839
<v Speaker 1>and spit out the salt water when it comes down

0:34:48.840 --> 0:34:51.279
<v Speaker 1>the snork that sort of thing. But but when you

0:34:51.320 --> 0:34:54.160
<v Speaker 1>get into two diving, I mean, they're all these careful

0:34:54.800 --> 0:34:57.160
<v Speaker 1>considerations that have to be made, and you know, I

0:34:57.239 --> 0:34:59.719
<v Speaker 1>have to keep track of your time and your your

0:34:59.760 --> 0:35:02.600
<v Speaker 1>bree thing. I mean, it is, uh, it's and it's

0:35:02.640 --> 0:35:05.440
<v Speaker 1>a whole enterprise. We could we could easily do an

0:35:05.560 --> 0:35:08.760
<v Speaker 1>entire episode just on the science of scuba diving. Actually,

0:35:08.800 --> 0:35:10.719
<v Speaker 1>in one of the books that I recommended in our

0:35:10.760 --> 0:35:13.480
<v Speaker 1>summer Reading episode last year, The Soul of an Octopus

0:35:13.560 --> 0:35:15.920
<v Speaker 1>by Sigh Montgomery, there's a there's a whole section in

0:35:15.960 --> 0:35:20.440
<v Speaker 1>there that's sort of like a memoir of UH learning

0:35:20.480 --> 0:35:23.960
<v Speaker 1>how to dive with with scuba gear and stuff, because

0:35:24.680 --> 0:35:28.200
<v Speaker 1>just because of an interest in UH octopuses and cephalopods

0:35:28.200 --> 0:35:30.520
<v Speaker 1>and wanting to get closer to them and see them

0:35:30.560 --> 0:35:33.560
<v Speaker 1>in the ocean. And it's it's not as easy as

0:35:33.560 --> 0:35:36.120
<v Speaker 1>you would think. It's like an arduous journey, especially when

0:35:36.120 --> 0:35:38.400
<v Speaker 1>whatever you're diving for at was going to ask you

0:35:38.440 --> 0:35:41.760
<v Speaker 1>to dive in less than ideal conditions. Uh. Fun fact

0:35:41.840 --> 0:35:44.920
<v Speaker 1>that trip to believes. Uh, the the place I stayed

0:35:45.320 --> 0:35:47.640
<v Speaker 1>had a small assortment of books and magazines, like these

0:35:47.640 --> 0:35:50.960
<v Speaker 1>places tend to do, and that that book The Soul

0:35:51.040 --> 0:35:53.000
<v Speaker 1>of an Octopus was was one of them. Oh maybe

0:35:53.000 --> 0:35:56.040
<v Speaker 1>because they heard our recommendation well or just you know,

0:35:56.239 --> 0:35:58.080
<v Speaker 1>but probably more than like people that are willing into

0:35:58.080 --> 0:36:01.920
<v Speaker 1>scuba and diving uh um and and snorkeling, I guess

0:36:01.920 --> 0:36:05.719
<v Speaker 1>may occasionally bring books of that nature. I'll say it again.

0:36:05.760 --> 0:36:08.200
<v Speaker 1>If you want to cry about an octopus, read that book.

0:36:09.480 --> 0:36:13.560
<v Speaker 1>No joke. Now, we've talked mainly about about humans here

0:36:13.600 --> 0:36:17.120
<v Speaker 1>and a little bit about octopuses, but plenty of other

0:36:17.120 --> 0:36:22.239
<v Speaker 1>creatures are adapted to regular jaunts to fairly impressive depths

0:36:22.360 --> 0:36:25.720
<v Speaker 1>or even of course permanent residency in high pressure waters.

0:36:26.280 --> 0:36:29.080
<v Speaker 1>So sperm whales for instance, which we've we've covered fairly

0:36:29.080 --> 0:36:31.919
<v Speaker 1>recently on the show. Um, you know, they can dive

0:36:31.960 --> 0:36:34.640
<v Speaker 1>down to depths of seven thousand feet or so. Uh

0:36:34.680 --> 0:36:38.400
<v Speaker 1>and and uh, this is a really impressive anatomical process

0:36:38.440 --> 0:36:40.320
<v Speaker 1>that we we talk a little bit about in that episode.

0:36:40.600 --> 0:36:42.920
<v Speaker 1>But like one of the things that their bodies do

0:36:43.239 --> 0:36:46.239
<v Speaker 1>is that they their lungs collapse to copes with the

0:36:46.280 --> 0:36:49.200
<v Speaker 1>cope with the pressure. Yeah, um, I mean that's actually

0:36:49.239 --> 0:36:52.399
<v Speaker 1>even so we're about to talk about organisms that live

0:36:52.560 --> 0:36:55.640
<v Speaker 1>permanently in the deep seas, but the ones like sperm

0:36:55.640 --> 0:36:58.120
<v Speaker 1>whales that go up and down, like they go all

0:36:58.160 --> 0:36:59.840
<v Speaker 1>the way to the surface to breathe and then go

0:37:00.080 --> 0:37:04.600
<v Speaker 1>down seven thousand feet. I mean, what that is something

0:37:04.640 --> 0:37:07.360
<v Speaker 1>that's especially hard to imagine for you know, without the

0:37:07.400 --> 0:37:10.920
<v Speaker 1>kind of biological adaptations that they have to sustain it.

0:37:10.920 --> 0:37:13.440
<v Speaker 1>It's gonna be hard to imagine, especially given stuff we're

0:37:13.440 --> 0:37:15.720
<v Speaker 1>about to talk about in just a minute here. Yeah, difficult,

0:37:15.719 --> 0:37:19.919
<v Speaker 1>difficult for a landsman like like us to imagine for sure. Um.

0:37:19.920 --> 0:37:21.640
<v Speaker 1>But then of course, yeah, you've got all these deep

0:37:21.680 --> 0:37:25.560
<v Speaker 1>sea organisms that are permanently adapted to pressure that is

0:37:25.760 --> 0:37:28.880
<v Speaker 1>that boggles the mind, is just so crushing at the

0:37:28.920 --> 0:37:32.080
<v Speaker 1>bottom of the ocean. Yeah. So yeah, deep sea fish

0:37:32.120 --> 0:37:34.640
<v Speaker 1>that are adapted to high pressures, you know, generally, namely

0:37:34.640 --> 0:37:36.839
<v Speaker 1>we're talking about like the mere fact that they don't

0:37:36.840 --> 0:37:39.239
<v Speaker 1>have air pockets inside their body like we do, right,

0:37:39.280 --> 0:37:41.759
<v Speaker 1>they don't have lungs full of air or more importantly,

0:37:41.960 --> 0:37:46.280
<v Speaker 1>swim bladders. Yes, uh, there, there's actually like a whole

0:37:46.320 --> 0:37:50.120
<v Speaker 1>host of of things that come into into play with

0:37:50.120 --> 0:37:54.719
<v Speaker 1>with deep water adaptations. Like it's you know, it's easy

0:37:54.760 --> 0:37:56.960
<v Speaker 1>to sort of like think casually about it and think, well,

0:37:57.160 --> 0:37:59.480
<v Speaker 1>you know it's a thicker skin or you know, different

0:37:59.480 --> 0:38:02.480
<v Speaker 1>oregan Uh, but you know, you get into like all

0:38:02.520 --> 0:38:07.680
<v Speaker 1>of these molecular examples and proteins UM. Deep water organisms

0:38:07.680 --> 0:38:11.839
<v Speaker 1>for instance, UM, they depend on something that's known as

0:38:12.480 --> 0:38:17.520
<v Speaker 1>trimethyl amine in oxide, which seems to counter protein destabilizing

0:38:17.560 --> 0:38:21.000
<v Speaker 1>effects of pressure. Yeah, that's sometimes known as t m

0:38:21.040 --> 0:38:23.080
<v Speaker 1>A O. And the problem here is that, as we

0:38:23.080 --> 0:38:25.239
<v Speaker 1>were saying a minute ago, certain types of molecules that

0:38:25.280 --> 0:38:29.640
<v Speaker 1>are present in animal bodies anyway, actually become more toxic

0:38:29.760 --> 0:38:32.080
<v Speaker 1>or more dangerous at greater pressure. And one of those,

0:38:32.080 --> 0:38:33.960
<v Speaker 1>of course, is the compound of urea, which is in

0:38:34.120 --> 0:38:36.560
<v Speaker 1>your body. You know, it's important in the renal system.

0:38:36.880 --> 0:38:39.560
<v Speaker 1>Your kidneys deal with it. But t m AO is

0:38:39.600 --> 0:38:42.640
<v Speaker 1>a protein stabilizer that helps protect the body against the

0:38:42.680 --> 0:38:46.000
<v Speaker 1>toxic effects of urea at high pressure. So if you've

0:38:46.040 --> 0:38:47.759
<v Speaker 1>got urea in your body, like a lot of deep

0:38:47.760 --> 0:38:51.040
<v Speaker 1>water sharks do, and they're trying not to make that

0:38:51.200 --> 0:38:53.719
<v Speaker 1>a poison inside their bodies, that hurts them. The t

0:38:53.880 --> 0:38:57.120
<v Speaker 1>m AO stabilizes proteins and protects the body against it.

0:38:57.480 --> 0:38:59.960
<v Speaker 1>But I've also reather this molecule only works to serve

0:39:00.080 --> 0:39:03.520
<v Speaker 1>in depths. Basically, so extremely deep organisms, you know, many

0:39:03.520 --> 0:39:07.640
<v Speaker 1>of which we really don't understand all that well yet. Uh.

0:39:07.800 --> 0:39:11.239
<v Speaker 1>They have membranes that require extreme pressure, Like they fall

0:39:11.320 --> 0:39:14.480
<v Speaker 1>apart without that pressure in place. Yeah, totally, though it

0:39:14.520 --> 0:39:18.440
<v Speaker 1>seems so. It seems that when you are an organism

0:39:18.440 --> 0:39:21.000
<v Speaker 1>that is adapted to the crushing depth of the bottom

0:39:21.000 --> 0:39:24.319
<v Speaker 1>of the ocean, how you fare when you were brought

0:39:24.360 --> 0:39:27.160
<v Speaker 1>into a lower pressure environment. That varies a lot from

0:39:27.280 --> 0:39:29.719
<v Speaker 1>organism to organism. I was reading an article by the

0:39:29.719 --> 0:39:34.040
<v Speaker 1>marine biologist and evolutionary ecologist Craig McClain where he talks

0:39:34.040 --> 0:39:38.319
<v Speaker 1>about his experiences retrieving organisms for scientific research from the

0:39:38.360 --> 0:39:40.279
<v Speaker 1>deep sea. You know, they'll put them sometimes in a

0:39:40.320 --> 0:39:43.040
<v Speaker 1>canister and bring them up with a probe. And specifically

0:39:43.040 --> 0:39:46.919
<v Speaker 1>he's addressing the question of whether deep sea organisms explode

0:39:47.040 --> 0:39:49.480
<v Speaker 1>when you bring them up from the lower pressure environment

0:39:49.640 --> 0:39:52.600
<v Speaker 1>of the surface, and it seems like for most organisms

0:39:52.840 --> 0:39:55.239
<v Speaker 1>the answer is no, they don't explode. Though he does

0:39:55.280 --> 0:39:58.319
<v Speaker 1>talk about his experiences. I think somehow we've mentioned this

0:39:58.400 --> 0:40:00.960
<v Speaker 1>on the podcast before. His experience is trying to collect

0:40:01.280 --> 0:40:04.560
<v Speaker 1>a specimen of a particular kind of red sea cucumber,

0:40:04.600 --> 0:40:07.399
<v Speaker 1>which he says is always reduced to a quote thick

0:40:07.480 --> 0:40:10.440
<v Speaker 1>red cool aid by the time it reaches the surface.

0:40:10.480 --> 0:40:13.200
<v Speaker 1>So there may be some kind of explosion scenario going

0:40:13.239 --> 0:40:16.279
<v Speaker 1>on with this organism in particular, and maybe some others.

0:40:16.280 --> 0:40:18.919
<v Speaker 1>But with most deep sea organisms, when you bring them

0:40:19.000 --> 0:40:22.160
<v Speaker 1>up from the high pressure environment of the deep sea

0:40:22.200 --> 0:40:25.719
<v Speaker 1>to the surface, there's no pop. The more common immediate

0:40:25.800 --> 0:40:28.439
<v Speaker 1>danger actually is temperature change. The deep sea is very

0:40:28.560 --> 0:40:32.040
<v Speaker 1>very cold, around like zero to three degrees celsius usually,

0:40:32.120 --> 0:40:33.920
<v Speaker 1>or about thirty two to thirty seven and a half

0:40:34.000 --> 0:40:37.880
<v Speaker 1>degrease fahrenheit, and when an organism is adapted to that temperature,

0:40:37.880 --> 0:40:40.560
<v Speaker 1>bringing it up to the warm surface can kill it fast.

0:40:40.680 --> 0:40:43.239
<v Speaker 1>You know, it might be like boiling it. Though many

0:40:43.280 --> 0:40:46.360
<v Speaker 1>deep sea organisms can survive if they're quickly moved to

0:40:46.520 --> 0:40:50.000
<v Speaker 1>some kind of protective cold condition, But the question is

0:40:50.040 --> 0:40:53.200
<v Speaker 1>how do they survive such an extreme change in pressure

0:40:53.200 --> 0:40:56.600
<v Speaker 1>coming up from the bottom. And basically McClean says that

0:40:56.640 --> 0:41:00.160
<v Speaker 1>their adaptations to deep pressure, many of which are sort

0:41:00.200 --> 0:41:03.560
<v Speaker 1>of biochemical adaptations, having to do with like things happening

0:41:03.560 --> 0:41:05.799
<v Speaker 1>at the cell level or enzymes in the body. Those

0:41:05.880 --> 0:41:10.200
<v Speaker 1>don't happen to be adaptations of a kind that consequently

0:41:10.239 --> 0:41:13.279
<v Speaker 1>makes them vulnerable to low pressure. It's just like you know,

0:41:13.560 --> 0:41:15.760
<v Speaker 1>I think he uses the metaphor that if he puts

0:41:15.760 --> 0:41:18.200
<v Speaker 1>a hat on to protect himself from the sun, that

0:41:18.200 --> 0:41:22.680
<v Speaker 1>hat doesn't like hurt him when there is no sun. Um. However,

0:41:23.280 --> 0:41:26.000
<v Speaker 1>these organisms that survived the pressure change from sea floor

0:41:26.040 --> 0:41:29.440
<v Speaker 1>to surface have usually evolved to possess bodies without major

0:41:29.640 --> 0:41:33.040
<v Speaker 1>gas pockets. And that's key. When we're talking about any

0:41:33.120 --> 0:41:36.120
<v Speaker 1>fish or organism that has a gas pocket inside it,

0:41:36.200 --> 0:41:40.080
<v Speaker 1>like a swim bladder, all bets are off. Then. Yeah.

0:41:40.120 --> 0:41:44.040
<v Speaker 1>I was reading a paper from Ding, Wagner and Popper

0:41:44.080 --> 0:41:47.400
<v Speaker 1>titled titled the Inner Ear and It's coupling to the

0:41:47.440 --> 0:41:52.600
<v Speaker 1>swim bladder in the deep sea fish uh Anti Mora rostrata,

0:41:52.840 --> 0:41:55.000
<v Speaker 1>and they pointed out that they had to pull the

0:41:55.040 --> 0:41:59.200
<v Speaker 1>specimens up from the deep really slowly because they wanted

0:41:59.239 --> 0:42:01.800
<v Speaker 1>to try and preserve of the swim the swim bladder

0:42:02.200 --> 0:42:05.160
<v Speaker 1>the creatures a swim bladder is adapted to deep water pressure,

0:42:05.560 --> 0:42:08.600
<v Speaker 1>uh that they put it up slowly to avoid damaging it. Yeah,

0:42:08.640 --> 0:42:11.160
<v Speaker 1>and there's all kinds of interesting stuff out there about

0:42:11.360 --> 0:42:14.000
<v Speaker 1>the swim bladder of fish and barrow trauma. You know,

0:42:14.040 --> 0:42:17.880
<v Speaker 1>pressure related trauma. That's what barrow trauma is. So the

0:42:17.920 --> 0:42:21.719
<v Speaker 1>swim bladder in fish is this gas filled chamber that

0:42:21.880 --> 0:42:25.279
<v Speaker 1>allows a fish to essentially well, it allows several things.

0:42:25.480 --> 0:42:28.160
<v Speaker 1>It allows a fish to rest at a certain depth

0:42:28.200 --> 0:42:31.680
<v Speaker 1>without sinking and without expending energy to swim, to stay

0:42:31.680 --> 0:42:34.520
<v Speaker 1>where it is. But it also can help in ascent

0:42:34.680 --> 0:42:38.600
<v Speaker 1>or descent simply by inflating or deflating the bladder. So

0:42:38.760 --> 0:42:41.520
<v Speaker 1>it can be a buoyancy stabilizer that helps the fish out.

0:42:41.520 --> 0:42:43.480
<v Speaker 1>You don't always have to be pulling your muscles to

0:42:43.480 --> 0:42:45.000
<v Speaker 1>go where you want to go if you have a

0:42:45.040 --> 0:42:49.200
<v Speaker 1>swim bladder. But obviously a change in pressure will have

0:42:49.400 --> 0:42:52.960
<v Speaker 1>an effect on a gas filled bladder inside an animal.

0:42:53.320 --> 0:42:55.920
<v Speaker 1>It's like if you take a balloon to lower pressure,

0:42:56.040 --> 0:42:59.359
<v Speaker 1>it expands, right. So what happens when a fish with

0:42:59.440 --> 0:43:03.240
<v Speaker 1>a swim bladder, especially one adapted to very deep waters

0:43:03.239 --> 0:43:06.239
<v Speaker 1>with high pressure, gets pulled up to the surface. Well.

0:43:06.280 --> 0:43:09.360
<v Speaker 1>A common example can be seen in rock fish. Often,

0:43:09.400 --> 0:43:11.880
<v Speaker 1>when rock fish are pulled up from the depth, the

0:43:11.920 --> 0:43:15.520
<v Speaker 1>swim bladder inside its body. Cavity expands to become so

0:43:15.680 --> 0:43:20.040
<v Speaker 1>large that it pushes the fish's stomach out through its mouth.

0:43:21.000 --> 0:43:25.120
<v Speaker 1>And this looks almost mind rendingly grotesque, especially since it's

0:43:25.160 --> 0:43:28.680
<v Speaker 1>often accompanied by Ronnie Cox in Total Recalls style bulging eyes.

0:43:29.280 --> 0:43:32.040
<v Speaker 1>I've got some images for us here, and literally the

0:43:32.120 --> 0:43:34.920
<v Speaker 1>stomach is just poking out of the fish's mouth. It

0:43:34.960 --> 0:43:37.799
<v Speaker 1>looks like a huge tongue. It does. It looks like

0:43:37.840 --> 0:43:40.239
<v Speaker 1>a big cartoonish tongue or level or at least the

0:43:40.320 --> 0:43:43.120
<v Speaker 1>end of a sausage. And it's because the swim bladder

0:43:43.120 --> 0:43:46.080
<v Speaker 1>has been so inflated by the low pressure environment. It's

0:43:46.120 --> 0:43:48.560
<v Speaker 1>just like pushing out against all the other organs and

0:43:48.600 --> 0:43:52.160
<v Speaker 1>the stomach escapes that that pressure of the swim bladder

0:43:52.200 --> 0:43:54.279
<v Speaker 1>through the mouth, so it's it's averted. This is like

0:43:55.440 --> 0:43:59.279
<v Speaker 1>pocket on your jeans pulled out inside out. Yes, there's

0:43:59.320 --> 0:44:02.200
<v Speaker 1>something swelling up inside the fish because of the low pressure.

0:44:02.239 --> 0:44:05.080
<v Speaker 1>It's that gas chamber and it's like pushing the guts

0:44:05.080 --> 0:44:08.960
<v Speaker 1>out through the mouth. It's so gross. Uh. And obviously

0:44:09.000 --> 0:44:11.000
<v Speaker 1>this can be traumatic and can kill the fish. But

0:44:11.120 --> 0:44:14.719
<v Speaker 1>actually I was reading fish can sometimes survive this low

0:44:14.760 --> 0:44:18.040
<v Speaker 1>pressure barrow trauma and UH and even survived the gut

0:44:18.040 --> 0:44:21.520
<v Speaker 1>a version if quickly returned to their native native depth.

0:44:21.920 --> 0:44:24.360
<v Speaker 1>This can be difficult though, because sometimes the gas distension

0:44:24.400 --> 0:44:26.799
<v Speaker 1>here causes them to float and be unable to sink

0:44:26.840 --> 0:44:29.600
<v Speaker 1>back down. But I've read that you can sometimes safely

0:44:29.640 --> 0:44:32.320
<v Speaker 1>get them back down to depth just by like covering

0:44:32.360 --> 0:44:35.440
<v Speaker 1>them with a weighted upside down milk crate on a line,

0:44:35.800 --> 0:44:38.520
<v Speaker 1>which is then lowered back down to depth until the

0:44:38.560 --> 0:44:40.920
<v Speaker 1>fish swims away on its own. But it sounds like

0:44:40.960 --> 0:44:43.080
<v Speaker 1>a little extra work. But really, I mean, if you've

0:44:43.120 --> 0:44:45.440
<v Speaker 1>if you've pulled the fish out of its natural habitat,

0:44:45.920 --> 0:44:47.839
<v Speaker 1>you know it's it's it's the decent thing to do

0:44:47.880 --> 0:44:49.640
<v Speaker 1>to either I guess eat it or put it back

0:44:49.640 --> 0:44:51.200
<v Speaker 1>where it came from. Well, yeah, I mean it makes

0:44:51.239 --> 0:44:53.719
<v Speaker 1>me think about there's this whole concept of catch and

0:44:53.840 --> 0:44:56.680
<v Speaker 1>release fishing. You know, people do catching release, which is

0:44:56.719 --> 0:44:58.799
<v Speaker 1>one thing if you're catching a bass in a lake,

0:44:58.920 --> 0:45:01.160
<v Speaker 1>you know you not necessarily going to kill the fish

0:45:01.200 --> 0:45:03.120
<v Speaker 1>if you catch it and then you take the hook

0:45:03.120 --> 0:45:05.040
<v Speaker 1>out and you throw it back in. But with the

0:45:05.200 --> 0:45:07.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, with a fish like this, if you pull

0:45:07.080 --> 0:45:09.400
<v Speaker 1>it up and it's guts, get averted by the by

0:45:09.440 --> 0:45:12.000
<v Speaker 1>the pressure change. Its stomach is sticking out, its mouth,

0:45:12.040 --> 0:45:14.120
<v Speaker 1>its eyes are popping out, and then you just take

0:45:14.160 --> 0:45:15.840
<v Speaker 1>it off the hook and throw it back in the water,

0:45:15.920 --> 0:45:18.000
<v Speaker 1>and then it just floats on the surface and dies.

0:45:18.440 --> 0:45:22.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean, what's the what's the purpose of release? Then? Yeah, exactly. Now,

0:45:22.719 --> 0:45:24.680
<v Speaker 1>of course, again there's there's a lot more to the

0:45:24.719 --> 0:45:27.399
<v Speaker 1>evolution of DC organisms. You know, it involves a number

0:45:27.440 --> 0:45:31.799
<v Speaker 1>of evolutionary adaptations and involving tissues, membranes, proteins, etcetera. Like

0:45:31.840 --> 0:45:35.480
<v Speaker 1>I said, Uh, And to come back to explosive decompression

0:45:35.520 --> 0:45:39.200
<v Speaker 1>for a second, which is, you know, a matter all

0:45:39.239 --> 0:45:42.239
<v Speaker 1>on its own. Uh. You know, this generally occurs when

0:45:42.239 --> 0:45:44.799
<v Speaker 1>you have a rapid change in pressure, generally going from

0:45:44.840 --> 0:45:47.000
<v Speaker 1>something like nine a t M to one a t

0:45:47.160 --> 0:45:50.080
<v Speaker 1>M instantly. And these sorts of events occur due to

0:45:50.120 --> 0:45:54.120
<v Speaker 1>malfunctions and closed systems. So we're talking about human technology here.

0:45:54.719 --> 0:45:57.080
<v Speaker 1>There are a lot of misconceptions and myths about this

0:45:57.120 --> 0:46:01.760
<v Speaker 1>sort of thing as well. But um, the the fatale

0:46:02.200 --> 0:46:05.200
<v Speaker 1>by for dolphin diving bell accident is a frequently cited

0:46:05.239 --> 0:46:08.480
<v Speaker 1>example of this sort of malfunction and the like the

0:46:09.320 --> 0:46:12.359
<v Speaker 1>fatal nature of it like just really, how how destructive

0:46:12.440 --> 0:46:15.239
<v Speaker 1>that can be to be a living organism exposed to

0:46:15.280 --> 0:46:18.720
<v Speaker 1>such a drastic change. Yes, though it is. I would

0:46:18.719 --> 0:46:20.960
<v Speaker 1>say there are a lot of myths out there about

0:46:21.480 --> 0:46:25.600
<v Speaker 1>explosion in low pressure environments, Like the whole idea that

0:46:25.600 --> 0:46:28.560
<v Speaker 1>you would explode if exposed to the void of empty space.

0:46:28.640 --> 0:46:31.680
<v Speaker 1>That's not generally believed to be true. Uh you know,

0:46:31.719 --> 0:46:33.640
<v Speaker 1>if you were exposed to the void of empty space,

0:46:33.680 --> 0:46:35.760
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it would kill you, but not by making

0:46:35.760 --> 0:46:38.080
<v Speaker 1>you explode. All right, Well, on that note, we're going

0:46:38.120 --> 0:46:39.719
<v Speaker 1>to take another break, and when we come back, we're

0:46:39.719 --> 0:46:43.360
<v Speaker 1>gonna talk a little bit about geologic pressure and pressure

0:46:43.360 --> 0:46:48.879
<v Speaker 1>on other worlds. Thank alright, we're back. So we've we've

0:46:48.880 --> 0:46:51.760
<v Speaker 1>discussed geologic pressure rather recently on the show, talking about

0:46:51.760 --> 0:46:54.160
<v Speaker 1>tunnels and digging in the Earth and what's the deepest

0:46:54.200 --> 0:46:56.520
<v Speaker 1>we've tunneled, and what's the what what is the depth

0:46:56.600 --> 0:46:59.920
<v Speaker 1>the greatest depth that we've descended to. And so just

0:47:00.040 --> 0:47:03.520
<v Speaker 1>to reiterate, geologists calculate that for every mile you dig down,

0:47:03.560 --> 0:47:07.000
<v Speaker 1>the temperature rises fifteen degrees fahrenheit and the pressure increases

0:47:07.040 --> 0:47:10.040
<v Speaker 1>at a rate of seven thousand, three hundred pounds per

0:47:10.080 --> 0:47:13.000
<v Speaker 1>square inch go down deep enough and the temperature and

0:47:13.080 --> 0:47:17.319
<v Speaker 1>pressure is enough to form diamonds. Uh. Now that the

0:47:17.360 --> 0:47:20.200
<v Speaker 1>specifics of diamond formation. This is also something you know,

0:47:20.239 --> 0:47:22.880
<v Speaker 1>we could easily devote an entire episode two, But I

0:47:22.880 --> 0:47:25.040
<v Speaker 1>want to just read this quick bit from How Diamonds

0:47:25.080 --> 0:47:29.479
<v Speaker 1>Work by Kevin Bonser on how stuff Works. I wrote

0:47:29.480 --> 0:47:32.120
<v Speaker 1>a number of articles for that website back in the day,

0:47:32.320 --> 0:47:34.719
<v Speaker 1>and and may still be for all I know. But

0:47:35.160 --> 0:47:37.839
<v Speaker 1>here's the quote. Quote. Diamonds form about a hundred miles

0:47:37.880 --> 0:47:40.680
<v Speaker 1>a hundred sixty one kilometers below the Earth's surface in

0:47:40.719 --> 0:47:43.400
<v Speaker 1>the molten rock of the Earth's mantle, which provides the

0:47:43.440 --> 0:47:46.680
<v Speaker 1>right amounts of pressure and heat to transform carbon into diamond.

0:47:46.960 --> 0:47:48.960
<v Speaker 1>In order for a diamond to be created, carbon must

0:47:49.000 --> 0:47:52.920
<v Speaker 1>be placed at least four hundred and thirty five thousand,

0:47:53.000 --> 0:47:55.920
<v Speaker 1>one hundred and thirteen pounds per square inch or a

0:47:56.000 --> 0:47:58.279
<v Speaker 1>p s i or thirty kilo bars of pressure at

0:47:58.320 --> 0:48:01.120
<v Speaker 1>a temperature of at least seven two degrees fahrenheit or

0:48:01.160 --> 0:48:05.040
<v Speaker 1>four hundred degrees celsius. So four hundred and thirty five

0:48:05.320 --> 0:48:10.320
<v Speaker 1>thousand pounds per square inch. Yeah, it's hard to imagine

0:48:10.400 --> 0:48:12.440
<v Speaker 1>pressure like that. I mean, this is unfortunately one of

0:48:12.520 --> 0:48:15.160
<v Speaker 1>those cases where I think we can say the numbers,

0:48:15.200 --> 0:48:18.560
<v Speaker 1>but there's nothing you can compare it to, right, There's

0:48:18.600 --> 0:48:21.759
<v Speaker 1>no kind of you can't oh, okay, this was what

0:48:21.800 --> 0:48:24.160
<v Speaker 1>it would feel like. You know, you just don't have

0:48:24.360 --> 0:48:28.520
<v Speaker 1>a sensation based point of comparison for that kind of pressure. Yeah.

0:48:28.680 --> 0:48:31.200
<v Speaker 1>And now if we're talking about the core of the Earth,

0:48:31.920 --> 0:48:34.320
<v Speaker 1>that's that's also crazy, because we're talking about a solid

0:48:34.400 --> 0:48:40.120
<v Speaker 1>iron ball about one thousand, five hundred miles or kilometers

0:48:40.160 --> 0:48:43.319
<v Speaker 1>in diameter. It's white hot, but the pressure is so

0:48:43.440 --> 0:48:47.480
<v Speaker 1>high that the iron cannot melt um. And the temperature

0:48:47.520 --> 0:48:51.040
<v Speaker 1>is probably between nine thousand and thirteen thousand degrees fahrenheit

0:48:51.160 --> 0:48:53.920
<v Speaker 1>or five thousand and seven thousand degrees celsius. And as

0:48:53.920 --> 0:48:57.040
<v Speaker 1>for the pressure, it's I've seen it list. I think

0:48:57.080 --> 0:49:02.120
<v Speaker 1>there's a National Geographic dot com article about the Earth's interior.

0:49:02.600 --> 0:49:05.080
<v Speaker 1>The pressure here would be somewhere between three hundred thirty

0:49:05.120 --> 0:49:11.279
<v Speaker 1>and three hundred sixty giga pascal's giga pascals or um.

0:49:11.320 --> 0:49:14.920
<v Speaker 1>That would also be uh three million, three hundred thousand,

0:49:15.080 --> 0:49:18.360
<v Speaker 1>or somewhere between three million, three hundred thousand and three million,

0:49:18.400 --> 0:49:21.640
<v Speaker 1>six hundred thousand a t m s. But again we're talking,

0:49:21.760 --> 0:49:24.360
<v Speaker 1>we're talking numbers like this. It just gets impossible to

0:49:24.400 --> 0:49:27.640
<v Speaker 1>really put that in anything approaching a human frame of reference. Yeah,

0:49:27.640 --> 0:49:30.160
<v Speaker 1>you can't really like picture or imagine it. You just

0:49:30.239 --> 0:49:32.680
<v Speaker 1>have to say, well, I mean, I guess boy. Human

0:49:32.719 --> 0:49:35.719
<v Speaker 1>bodies don't go there, and if if they did, they

0:49:35.719 --> 0:49:38.560
<v Speaker 1>would just you'd just be I don't even know what

0:49:38.640 --> 0:49:41.200
<v Speaker 1>the word is. I'm trying to saying crushed would be

0:49:41.280 --> 0:49:43.520
<v Speaker 1>one thing, but it would be more than being crushed,

0:49:43.560 --> 0:49:47.319
<v Speaker 1>because that's normally like uh, you know, being pressed down

0:49:47.360 --> 0:49:52.120
<v Speaker 1>into a small space. I would think more than just obliterate, obliterate, annihilated,

0:49:52.200 --> 0:49:54.640
<v Speaker 1>it would be It reminds me a little bit of

0:49:54.680 --> 0:49:58.120
<v Speaker 1>the In the past, we've talked about different health theologies

0:49:58.160 --> 0:50:01.400
<v Speaker 1>about what if if there's a hell in your uh,

0:50:01.440 --> 0:50:04.560
<v Speaker 1>your your your religious worldview, what happens when you go there?

0:50:05.000 --> 0:50:06.920
<v Speaker 1>And in some of them it's you know, it's like, oh,

0:50:07.000 --> 0:50:09.720
<v Speaker 1>there's fire and somebody's sticking you with something. But in others,

0:50:09.800 --> 0:50:13.759
<v Speaker 1>it's total annihilation, like your being, your soul, everything is

0:50:13.800 --> 0:50:17.200
<v Speaker 1>just destroyed. And if you really were to go to

0:50:17.239 --> 0:50:19.680
<v Speaker 1>the center of the earth after you died in a

0:50:19.760 --> 0:50:24.239
<v Speaker 1>kind of like physical direct fashion, I think annihilation theology

0:50:24.280 --> 0:50:28.160
<v Speaker 1>would hold pretty sound. Maybe, yeah, what's the that's a

0:50:28.200 --> 0:50:31.520
<v Speaker 1>good point. Yeah, Or maybe you'd only I guess your

0:50:31.560 --> 0:50:33.440
<v Speaker 1>best hope to send only far enough. You would just

0:50:33.440 --> 0:50:37.440
<v Speaker 1>be crushed into a diamond. Has anyone ever been crushed

0:50:37.440 --> 0:50:41.880
<v Speaker 1>into a diamond in like a comic? I think Superman

0:50:41.920 --> 0:50:46.040
<v Speaker 1>could make diamonds. I believe there is a service. I

0:50:46.040 --> 0:50:48.440
<v Speaker 1>don't remember if this is real or not, but I

0:50:48.480 --> 0:50:50.920
<v Speaker 1>think there's a service that at least claims that they

0:50:50.920 --> 0:50:55.240
<v Speaker 1>will turn your dead your dead body into a diamond.

0:50:55.560 --> 0:50:58.160
<v Speaker 1>Take your ashes, and take the carbon content of your

0:50:58.160 --> 0:51:02.719
<v Speaker 1>body and squeeze it down and to a synthetic diamond. Ah. Yes, yes,

0:51:02.760 --> 0:51:05.160
<v Speaker 1>that does ring a bell. But it's not like Fantos

0:51:05.200 --> 0:51:08.440
<v Speaker 1>Thanos doing it with his his his gauntlet or something.

0:51:08.520 --> 0:51:10.240
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I gotta admit I don't know anything

0:51:10.280 --> 0:51:12.959
<v Speaker 1>about Thanos. What does Thanos do? He's got the big

0:51:13.000 --> 0:51:17.920
<v Speaker 1>the gauntlet with Okay, I haven't seen those movies, so

0:51:17.960 --> 0:51:20.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't know about than I'm sorry. Well, he is

0:51:21.000 --> 0:51:24.440
<v Speaker 1>from another world, so let's talk about other worlds. A

0:51:24.560 --> 0:51:27.920
<v Speaker 1>planetary examples of extreme pressure. Well, yeah, that's kind of

0:51:27.960 --> 0:51:31.319
<v Speaker 1>interesting because I was thinking about how when you imagine

0:51:31.400 --> 0:51:34.799
<v Speaker 1>crushing environments and other planets. I think most of us,

0:51:34.800 --> 0:51:37.120
<v Speaker 1>if you just think about it real fast, you probably

0:51:37.280 --> 0:51:40.400
<v Speaker 1>think first of gravity. Right. We imagine there's some planets

0:51:40.440 --> 0:51:43.360
<v Speaker 1>out there in our Solar System so huge and massive

0:51:43.440 --> 0:51:45.719
<v Speaker 1>that their gravity would make it impossible for us to

0:51:45.760 --> 0:51:48.520
<v Speaker 1>walk around on their surface, would be crushed under the

0:51:48.560 --> 0:51:50.399
<v Speaker 1>weight of our own bodies. Yeah. I always go back

0:51:50.400 --> 0:51:52.960
<v Speaker 1>to phantasm. Yeah, and I think of the how they

0:51:53.080 --> 0:51:56.000
<v Speaker 1>right phantasm, Yes, how they were crunching down the corpses

0:51:56.040 --> 0:52:00.640
<v Speaker 1>into these like Java like dwarves, presumably to serve as

0:52:01.120 --> 0:52:04.759
<v Speaker 1>like slave labor on this massive world somewhere. This is

0:52:04.800 --> 0:52:10.160
<v Speaker 1>the rich imagination of Don Costcareliott a Jawa universe. But yeah,

0:52:10.480 --> 0:52:13.840
<v Speaker 1>so within our Solar System at least, it's not really

0:52:13.960 --> 0:52:16.400
<v Speaker 1>the gravity. I think you'd have to worry about the

0:52:16.440 --> 0:52:18.839
<v Speaker 1>most in terms of being crushed on other planets that

0:52:18.880 --> 0:52:21.640
<v Speaker 1>we can. So we can estimate some of the effects

0:52:21.640 --> 0:52:24.360
<v Speaker 1>of high gravity planets simply by looking at the effects

0:52:24.360 --> 0:52:28.239
<v Speaker 1>of acceleration on test pilots. Uh. The the effects of

0:52:28.280 --> 0:52:31.440
<v Speaker 1>gravity and acceleration are physically actually the same, and this

0:52:31.520 --> 0:52:33.880
<v Speaker 1>is why we measure the force of acceleration on the

0:52:33.920 --> 0:52:36.880
<v Speaker 1>human body in terms of G s. One G is

0:52:37.000 --> 0:52:39.640
<v Speaker 1>one Earth gravity at the surface. Yeah, if you think

0:52:39.640 --> 0:52:42.840
<v Speaker 1>back to our episodes on artificial gravity and the ideas

0:52:42.880 --> 0:52:45.879
<v Speaker 1>about how to generate artificial gravity and space, we get

0:52:45.920 --> 0:52:49.600
<v Speaker 1>into this affair amount. Yeah, you use acceleration angular momentum.

0:52:49.840 --> 0:52:53.960
<v Speaker 1>U use acceleration in space to simulate G forces and

0:52:54.000 --> 0:52:57.800
<v Speaker 1>of course heightened G forces. So gravity and acceleration alike

0:52:57.920 --> 0:53:01.320
<v Speaker 1>or negative G forces, these can harm or kill humans.

0:53:01.360 --> 0:53:04.359
<v Speaker 1>That's certainly true. Primarily, I think, uh, the first thing

0:53:04.360 --> 0:53:06.840
<v Speaker 1>that would kill you would be their effects on blood flow,

0:53:07.040 --> 0:53:09.600
<v Speaker 1>like by pushing blood from one part of the body

0:53:09.640 --> 0:53:13.120
<v Speaker 1>to the other, preventing circulation and say preventing oxygen from

0:53:13.200 --> 0:53:15.640
<v Speaker 1>reaching the brain, or preventing blood from getting out of

0:53:15.640 --> 0:53:18.640
<v Speaker 1>the brain. But unless I'm mistaken, I think there are

0:53:18.680 --> 0:53:21.560
<v Speaker 1>no planets you could stand on in our Solar system

0:53:21.600 --> 0:53:24.160
<v Speaker 1>with enough G forces to kill you, at least not

0:53:24.280 --> 0:53:26.880
<v Speaker 1>immediately though. I mean there'll be lots of other things

0:53:26.920 --> 0:53:30.000
<v Speaker 1>to kill you radiation and lack of breathable oxygen and

0:53:30.040 --> 0:53:32.719
<v Speaker 1>all that, But the G the G forces alone, I

0:53:32.760 --> 0:53:36.080
<v Speaker 1>don't think would crush you anywhere in our Solar system. Yeah.

0:53:36.080 --> 0:53:38.120
<v Speaker 1>I was looking around about this a little bit and it.

0:53:38.600 --> 0:53:43.080
<v Speaker 1>For instance, um, the estimated cloud top gravity of Jupiter

0:53:43.480 --> 0:53:47.120
<v Speaker 1>would be something like two point five to eight g's,

0:53:47.640 --> 0:53:51.920
<v Speaker 1>so they're not a drastic increase. That's something test pilots

0:53:51.920 --> 0:53:54.840
<v Speaker 1>can they do when they survive. Yeah. Now the surface

0:53:54.840 --> 0:53:58.000
<v Speaker 1>of the Sun, however, that would be a gravity The

0:53:58.239 --> 0:54:01.880
<v Speaker 1>figure I've found for that was twin seven s. Okay,

0:54:01.920 --> 0:54:03.479
<v Speaker 1>So if we're gonna go walk in on the Sun,

0:54:03.800 --> 0:54:06.719
<v Speaker 1>that would be a problem, a problem, But there are

0:54:06.760 --> 0:54:08.880
<v Speaker 1>places you can go on our solar system, or atmosphere

0:54:08.920 --> 0:54:11.800
<v Speaker 1>pressure would pretty much instantly annihilate you. I think Venus

0:54:11.880 --> 0:54:14.680
<v Speaker 1>is a great example. Venus is really similar to Earth

0:54:14.719 --> 0:54:17.000
<v Speaker 1>in mass and size. It's gravity is just a little

0:54:17.000 --> 0:54:21.719
<v Speaker 1>over likee of Earth's, probably due to runaway greenhouse effect. Though,

0:54:21.760 --> 0:54:25.840
<v Speaker 1>the atmosphere of Venus is super dense, composed mostly of

0:54:25.880 --> 0:54:30.319
<v Speaker 1>carbon dioxide, which traps heat, making Venus beyond boiling hot

0:54:30.400 --> 0:54:33.480
<v Speaker 1>as well. Now, remember, on Earth, the atmosphere presses on

0:54:33.560 --> 0:54:36.160
<v Speaker 1>us with about fourteen point five pounds per square inch.

0:54:36.520 --> 0:54:39.759
<v Speaker 1>The pressure on Venus is about ninety two times that,

0:54:40.320 --> 0:54:42.759
<v Speaker 1>or roughly equivalent to the pressure at more than nine

0:54:43.320 --> 0:54:45.799
<v Speaker 1>meters or three thousand feet below the surface of the

0:54:45.840 --> 0:54:49.080
<v Speaker 1>ocean absolutely crushing just to stand on the ground under

0:54:49.080 --> 0:54:52.000
<v Speaker 1>the atmosphere in Venus, and I've seen it described that

0:54:52.400 --> 0:54:54.600
<v Speaker 1>just the air, it would be kind of like being

0:54:54.640 --> 0:54:57.839
<v Speaker 1>in a liquid. I mean, it would provide resistance when

0:54:57.880 --> 0:55:00.359
<v Speaker 1>you tried to move because of how dnse the carbon

0:55:00.440 --> 0:55:03.920
<v Speaker 1>dioxide atmosphere is. I mean, I think about the probes

0:55:04.000 --> 0:55:06.560
<v Speaker 1>that we've actually landed on Venus in the past, you know,

0:55:06.600 --> 0:55:09.160
<v Speaker 1>the Soviet manera landers and stuff. They were they had

0:55:09.200 --> 0:55:11.839
<v Speaker 1>short lives. They got down to the surface and did

0:55:11.880 --> 0:55:14.560
<v Speaker 1>manage to send back a few kind of grainy images,

0:55:14.600 --> 0:55:16.719
<v Speaker 1>but they do not live long. Like once you're on

0:55:16.719 --> 0:55:19.560
<v Speaker 1>the surface of Venus, it's hot enough to melt lead.

0:55:19.680 --> 0:55:23.640
<v Speaker 1>As commonly said, it's like ninety two times surface atmospheric

0:55:23.640 --> 0:55:27.359
<v Speaker 1>pressure on Earth. It's it's not friendly. Of course, the

0:55:27.400 --> 0:55:30.040
<v Speaker 1>exact opposite is true of Mars, which has an atmosphere

0:55:30.080 --> 0:55:33.120
<v Speaker 1>somewhere around a hundred times thinner than Earth's atmosphere, which

0:55:33.120 --> 0:55:35.680
<v Speaker 1>means it weighs very little and pressure is very low.

0:55:35.840 --> 0:55:37.400
<v Speaker 1>You don't want to go on the surface of Mars

0:55:37.440 --> 0:55:40.520
<v Speaker 1>without your pressure I spacesuit on otherwise you might I

0:55:40.560 --> 0:55:43.520
<v Speaker 1>don't think your guts would get inverted you would, you

0:55:43.560 --> 0:55:47.040
<v Speaker 1>would have serious pressure based problems, low pressure based problems

0:55:47.040 --> 0:55:50.960
<v Speaker 1>in addition to not being able to breathe and all that. Strangely,

0:55:51.080 --> 0:55:55.560
<v Speaker 1>while freezing and lacking oxygen, Saturn's moon tighten, I think,

0:55:55.560 --> 0:55:58.200
<v Speaker 1>compared to these other options, would have a relatively cozy

0:55:58.239 --> 0:56:02.080
<v Speaker 1>atmosphere pressure of only about sixty percent greater than Earth's.

0:56:02.120 --> 0:56:05.439
<v Speaker 1>According to NASA, it's roughly equivalent to swimming in about

0:56:05.480 --> 0:56:09.200
<v Speaker 1>fifteen meters underwater. I mean, that's not the most comfy,

0:56:09.280 --> 0:56:12.040
<v Speaker 1>but that's you know, better than venus, better than ye

0:56:12.760 --> 0:56:15.279
<v Speaker 1>And interesting difference with the atmosphere of Titan is that

0:56:15.360 --> 0:56:19.120
<v Speaker 1>because the gravity of Titan is much weaker than Earth,

0:56:19.160 --> 0:56:21.640
<v Speaker 1>so I think it's only like fourteen percent of Earth's gravity,

0:56:21.960 --> 0:56:25.879
<v Speaker 1>the atmosphere is held much more loosely and extends much

0:56:26.000 --> 0:56:30.400
<v Speaker 1>higher into space. The sky literally goes higher on Titan.

0:56:30.800 --> 0:56:33.680
<v Speaker 1>Now Earth's atmosphere, as we've discussed earlier, it's hard to

0:56:33.719 --> 0:56:36.240
<v Speaker 1>say exactly where it cuts off. It just gets thinner

0:56:36.239 --> 0:56:38.040
<v Speaker 1>and thinner as it goes higher and higher, much like

0:56:38.160 --> 0:56:41.319
<v Speaker 1>Titans would also. So there is no clear dividing line,

0:56:41.360 --> 0:56:44.200
<v Speaker 1>but a hundred kilometers is often cited as the beginning

0:56:44.239 --> 0:56:46.520
<v Speaker 1>of space. That's just sort of an arbitrary marker that

0:56:46.560 --> 0:56:50.080
<v Speaker 1>we use. I'd love to see what the sky looks

0:56:50.120 --> 0:56:53.160
<v Speaker 1>like from the surface of Titan during a sunrise, during

0:56:53.200 --> 0:56:55.319
<v Speaker 1>a sunset. I kind of want to go there with

0:56:55.400 --> 0:56:59.080
<v Speaker 1>an atmosphere that is, you know, very roughly six times

0:56:59.080 --> 0:57:02.560
<v Speaker 1>thicker than though I've a given different estimates I've seen.

0:57:02.600 --> 0:57:04.680
<v Speaker 1>It also is said to be like ten times. Thinker,

0:57:05.080 --> 0:57:07.080
<v Speaker 1>it's just six to ten time. I mean, just goes

0:57:07.280 --> 0:57:09.279
<v Speaker 1>up and up and up. It would seem like it

0:57:09.320 --> 0:57:12.319
<v Speaker 1>never stopped. But one last question, I was wondering about

0:57:12.360 --> 0:57:16.360
<v Speaker 1>going back to our thing about about the possibilities of

0:57:16.520 --> 0:57:21.560
<v Speaker 1>pressure having an effect on mountaintop religious beliefs. If different

0:57:21.600 --> 0:57:25.200
<v Speaker 1>atmospheric environments and the differences in pressure do actually have

0:57:25.240 --> 0:57:28.600
<v Speaker 1>anything to do with religious beliefs about mountains, Could the

0:57:28.640 --> 0:57:32.000
<v Speaker 1>differing pressure of other planets do the same, Like what

0:57:32.120 --> 0:57:35.400
<v Speaker 1>a low pressure or high pressure moon or planetary outpust

0:57:35.560 --> 0:57:38.840
<v Speaker 1>become Olympus or Kailassa or some other kind of holy

0:57:38.880 --> 0:57:42.080
<v Speaker 1>mountain in space. I think we should come back to

0:57:42.720 --> 0:57:46.680
<v Speaker 1>doing the Sacred Mountain episode. I'm I'm stuck on that now. Well,

0:57:46.680 --> 0:57:48.560
<v Speaker 1>there's yeah, there is a lot to discuss because I

0:57:48.640 --> 0:57:52.720
<v Speaker 1>mean there's so many different of course myths and religious

0:57:52.720 --> 0:57:56.080
<v Speaker 1>models that there's specifically interesting. I know, in the past

0:57:56.160 --> 0:57:59.360
<v Speaker 1>we looked into the possibility of doing an episode about

0:57:59.760 --> 0:58:03.240
<v Speaker 1>monsters of the mountains. Yeah, and uh, you know, we

0:58:03.280 --> 0:58:05.720
<v Speaker 1>did a little looking around in that in that area.

0:58:05.840 --> 0:58:08.160
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I'm always happy to return to the mountains.

0:58:08.160 --> 0:58:10.600
<v Speaker 1>We haven't given the mountains enough attention. Really. We can

0:58:10.640 --> 0:58:13.280
<v Speaker 1>climb every mountain on the moon. There you go and

0:58:13.360 --> 0:58:17.000
<v Speaker 1>find the dish that ran away with the spoon, all right,

0:58:17.040 --> 0:58:19.240
<v Speaker 1>So there you have it. Pressure, uh, you know, just

0:58:19.440 --> 0:58:24.840
<v Speaker 1>hopefully just a nice exploration of atmospheric pressure. Um, push

0:58:24.920 --> 0:58:27.480
<v Speaker 1>us down on me, push us down on you. Yeah,

0:58:27.640 --> 0:58:31.240
<v Speaker 1>under pressure. Just a nice overview of pressure to be

0:58:31.240 --> 0:58:35.040
<v Speaker 1>found on Earth, in Earth and on other planets. As always,

0:58:35.080 --> 0:58:38.800
<v Speaker 1>we'd love to hear from you your thoughts on this episode. Um. Uh.

0:58:39.040 --> 0:58:44.360
<v Speaker 1>Certainly other like cool scientific uses of pressure pressure differentials

0:58:44.640 --> 0:58:47.600
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<v Speaker 1>you'll love it too, So go check it out. That's

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<v Speaker 1>right and uh, and be sure be sure to recommend

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<v Speaker 1>inventions for us to cover as well, because we want

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<v Speaker 1>to cover everything recommended in the form of graffiti and

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<v Speaker 1>in the form of skywriting. We encourage you if you

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<v Speaker 1>have one of those old biplanes. How come nobody does

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<v Speaker 1>skywriting anymore? I used to see that when I was

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<v Speaker 1>a kid, and verseee it now. Oh, I mean I

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<v Speaker 1>saw in cartoons all the time, for sure. But if

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<v Speaker 1>you're out there and you're a skywriter, let us not

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<v Speaker 1>tell us all about your profession. Give us free promotion,

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<v Speaker 1>all right anyway, Thanks so much to our excell and

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