WEBVTT - Big Red Rage - Benjamin Fighting For Role 0:00:01.920 --> 0:00:05.320 Strap on the boots and scrape up the knuckles ahead. 0:00:05.440 --> 0:00:10.280 He got jack. This is the Big Red Race presented 0:00:10.360 --> 0:00:14.600 by Santanford in Gilbert. Harry's gonna score touchdown. Slam to 0:00:14.680 --> 0:00:17.640 the ground by Buddha Baker Like a torpedo. He came 0:00:17.800 --> 0:00:22.959 flying into the backfield. The Rage is brought to you 0:00:23.040 --> 0:00:28.840 by satan Ford in Gilbert. Are you Santanford State Farm? 0:00:29.080 --> 0:00:32.040 Talk to an agent today at eight hundred State Farm 0:00:32.880 --> 0:00:37.680 and buy Arizona Cardinals podcasts, Visit Acy Cardinals dot Com, 0:00:37.760 --> 0:00:46.520 Slash podcasts, The Rods, Rising Guard, Temperatureizing Vision, Flurring, Rage, 0:00:46.680 --> 0:00:50.520 taking it over. Here's Paul kelvc. Get the popcorn ready, 0:00:50.760 --> 0:00:53.400 It's gonna be a show and Ron will flip It. 0:00:53.560 --> 0:00:57.920 Doesn't get any better than that horn. Unleash the fiard. 0:00:59.520 --> 0:01:02.120 If you know Ron Wolfley, you know that he has 0:01:02.240 --> 0:01:05.440 his morning radio show for one reason and one reason only. 0:01:05.520 --> 0:01:08.080 I don't want to hear Baul so he can spend 0:01:08.080 --> 0:01:11.680 the rest of his day day trading on Wall Street. 0:01:12.560 --> 0:01:15.040 He's got his Robin Hood account. He's trading game stop. 0:01:15.240 --> 0:01:17.320 You know. I mean, he's just he's all in. He's 0:01:17.360 --> 0:01:19.520 all in with it. And I bring that up here 0:01:19.560 --> 0:01:21.440 off the top, because we're sort of at that point 0:01:21.440 --> 0:01:24.800 now in the preseason where I think far too much 0:01:24.880 --> 0:01:28.160 is being read into the month of August. And we 0:01:28.240 --> 0:01:31.479 all know that the preseason is like the stock market, 0:01:31.520 --> 0:01:36.320 where a past performance does not guarantee future results. So 0:01:36.400 --> 0:01:38.920 let's all keep that in mind because we've got a 0:01:38.959 --> 0:01:41.800 big hour straight ahead on the Big Red Rage presented 0:01:41.800 --> 0:01:44.760 by santan Ford and Gilbert. We are santan Ford, Paul 0:01:44.800 --> 0:01:48.160 Calvc here, or Ron Wolfley there. So, PAULI, what are 0:01:48.160 --> 0:01:51.080 you saying you're not feeling You're not feeling this game 0:01:51.120 --> 0:01:54.400 coming up here? You think I don't know Hurricane Ida 0:01:54.520 --> 0:01:57.880 or is the tropical Storm Ida? Paul might might actually 0:01:57.920 --> 0:02:01.800 wipe the whole thing out. That is sort of what 0:02:01.840 --> 0:02:04.760 I'm saying. You're feeling me, Wolf, You're feeling I'm looking 0:02:04.800 --> 0:02:08.160 into my Crystal Football and I'm saying it's a cloudy 0:02:08.240 --> 0:02:11.600 forecast at best. I mean, you don't know what's coming next. 0:02:11.680 --> 0:02:14.200 Look at the Cardinals next two opponents, the Saints dealing 0:02:14.200 --> 0:02:16.600 with Tropical Storm Ida. You don't even know if there 0:02:16.639 --> 0:02:19.000 is going to be a game on Saturday, right And 0:02:19.080 --> 0:02:21.040 by the way, Wolf, no sleeping in till noon. There 0:02:21.120 --> 0:02:23.240 might be an afternoon kickoff. We'll see about that. So 0:02:23.280 --> 0:02:26.800 you better, you better just you know, with your martini Friday, 0:02:26.880 --> 0:02:29.000 you better be aware on that one it's and then 0:02:29.200 --> 0:02:31.640 never the night before a game, Paul, and you know that. 0:02:32.280 --> 0:02:36.440 Think about week one against the Titans. Now Tennessee's dealing 0:02:36.480 --> 0:02:39.720 with a coronavirus outbreak that's grown to nine people, including 0:02:39.760 --> 0:02:42.320 the starting quarterback and the head coach. What's going on 0:02:42.400 --> 0:02:45.239 with Tennessee? Honestly, what are the Tennessee Titans do? What 0:02:45.760 --> 0:02:47.640 do they do? They all have a sing along or 0:02:47.680 --> 0:02:51.440 something like that after every practice. What are they doing? Paul? 0:02:51.480 --> 0:02:55.040 The spittle's flying through the air with the Tennessee Titans. 0:02:55.360 --> 0:02:59.480 I have no idea. They had all sorts of problems 0:02:59.520 --> 0:03:02.680 with this in twenty twenty. Remember, the only thing worse 0:03:02.919 --> 0:03:05.360 that I've heard in terms of like motivation or whatever 0:03:05.400 --> 0:03:07.480 you're talking about with this song was what the Dallas 0:03:07.480 --> 0:03:10.040 Cowboys did off the top of training camp and Mike 0:03:10.120 --> 0:03:14.000 McCarthy with his Mojoe moment playing a clip from Austin 0:03:14.040 --> 0:03:16.320 Powers like a nineteen ninety nine when half the guys 0:03:16.320 --> 0:03:18.280 in the room weren't even born. I mean it just 0:03:18.720 --> 0:03:22.720 so that went over like a lead balloon. So once again, Wolf, 0:03:22.760 --> 0:03:25.440 you just don't know what's coming next. I mean, based 0:03:25.440 --> 0:03:28.720 on what we've seen the Cards Camp twenty twenty one, 0:03:28.760 --> 0:03:32.280 which just rapped earlier today, I mean, this is about 0:03:32.280 --> 0:03:35.120 as solid and concrete as you're gonna get based on 0:03:35.160 --> 0:03:38.520 some of these other fluid situations and moments away. We're 0:03:38.520 --> 0:03:41.360 gonna talk to Eno, Benjamin. Dave Pash will be on board. 0:03:41.360 --> 0:03:43.200 We're gonna talk to you know, Benjamin, one of the 0:03:43.240 --> 0:03:46.640 standouts of camp. As we got some news today as 0:03:46.760 --> 0:03:49.200 Camp or wrapped up. I mean, well, if you walk 0:03:49.200 --> 0:03:51.200 around town, people ask you a Cards Camp. But what 0:03:51.280 --> 0:03:53.320 are some of your big takeaways now that it's in 0:03:53.320 --> 0:03:56.480 the books. Yeah, you know what, pably, the lack of physicality. 0:03:56.560 --> 0:03:58.280 For the most part, that is the first thing that 0:03:58.320 --> 0:04:01.240 I look at, and yet it rein forces the belief 0:04:01.320 --> 0:04:04.119 the knowledge that I have in regard to the game 0:04:04.120 --> 0:04:07.200 of football. The biggest change in this game by far 0:04:07.720 --> 0:04:10.440 in a way, is how you prepare a human being 0:04:10.440 --> 0:04:13.040 to play in an NFL game. It's just not the 0:04:13.080 --> 0:04:15.840 way that it used to be. I listen, Pally, you know, 0:04:16.120 --> 0:04:18.880 I don't want to be the old guy standing on 0:04:18.920 --> 0:04:23.360 the lawn get off by one boy. You know, I 0:04:23.440 --> 0:04:27.039 don't want to be that guy. Whatsoever. The rules of 0:04:27.080 --> 0:04:30.279 the game are changing, there's no doubt about that. And 0:04:30.800 --> 0:04:33.560 once again, knowing that the way you prepare a human 0:04:33.640 --> 0:04:37.560 being to play in an NFL game has changed the most, 0:04:38.080 --> 0:04:39.880 I'm not gonna sit here and act like I know 0:04:39.960 --> 0:04:43.360 the best way to get anyone prepared anymore. But for me, 0:04:43.680 --> 0:04:45.520 a guy that came up through the air I did 0:04:45.560 --> 0:04:49.920 in nineteen eighty five to ninety five, it is almost unthinkable, Polly. 0:04:50.000 --> 0:04:52.559 It makes me break out in hives as a matter 0:04:52.560 --> 0:04:55.080 of fact, when I start thinking of going out and 0:04:55.160 --> 0:04:59.880 playing a regular season game without taking one live right 0:05:00.520 --> 0:05:05.200 in practice, you know, no scrimmage, no live reps, no 0:05:05.400 --> 0:05:08.080 preseason games. Now. I know you could say, well they 0:05:08.120 --> 0:05:11.480 did that last year. Yeah they did, the Arizona Cardinals, 0:05:11.480 --> 0:05:15.320 but you know what other teams they were practicing against 0:05:15.360 --> 0:05:18.400 each other with a little bit of physicality from time 0:05:18.400 --> 0:05:21.040 to time. So you know what, we're so conditioned though, 0:05:21.240 --> 0:05:24.960 to these light camps that. For example, when the Cardinals 0:05:24.960 --> 0:05:27.920 went against Kansas City and you saw Travis Kelsey, the 0:05:27.960 --> 0:05:30.599 All Pro tight end, still in the game late second quarter, 0:05:30.800 --> 0:05:33.720 I mean I was shocked just to witness something like that, 0:05:33.760 --> 0:05:37.000 because it's so seldom, it's so rare these days that 0:05:37.120 --> 0:05:39.480 you ever see anything like that. And with that in mind, 0:05:39.520 --> 0:05:42.080 Wolf Cliff Kingsbury was asked today if we're gonna see 0:05:42.120 --> 0:05:45.800 his starting quarterback Kyler Murray on Saturday night at New Orleans, 0:05:46.440 --> 0:05:50.080 will not play? He's ready to go, Yeah, he's ready 0:05:50.120 --> 0:05:52.599 to go. He's a very good quarterback. You made the 0:05:52.600 --> 0:05:54.919 Pro Bowl last year, and I feel very confident in 0:05:54.920 --> 0:05:57.040 hissabilities this year. Okay, I don't want to go off 0:05:57.040 --> 0:06:00.400 on a ran here. Yeah, but if Kyler is playing, 0:06:00.400 --> 0:06:02.440 because there seems to be a lot of consternation, a 0:06:02.440 --> 0:06:05.080 lot of boxers getting bunged around here, whether Kyler is 0:06:05.080 --> 0:06:07.159 going to play, even if he did play, let me 0:06:07.200 --> 0:06:11.560 pass an iron ball so I can flat out play this. 0:06:11.560 --> 0:06:13.440 This is where we're going to disagree. Yet again, there's 0:06:13.520 --> 0:06:15.800 very little that we agree on. And this is another 0:06:15.839 --> 0:06:19.360 area because to me, if Kyler plays, what does that prove? Yeah, 0:06:19.440 --> 0:06:21.560 let's let's say he goes out there. Any throttles of 0:06:21.640 --> 0:06:24.479 vanilla scheme by the Saints full of twos and threes? 0:06:25.080 --> 0:06:28.560 What does that prove? What does that really do for him? 0:06:28.680 --> 0:06:31.120 I don't know, Polly. I just know that honestly right now, 0:06:31.160 --> 0:06:35.279 after taking nine snaps and looking at the free possessions previously. 0:06:35.760 --> 0:06:37.960 Maybe I don't know, Paul, Maybe they pick up a 0:06:38.000 --> 0:06:42.480 first down, maybe they actually have positive yardage something like that. 0:06:42.600 --> 0:06:45.400 I I if I was Kyler Murray, Paul, I'm serious, 0:06:45.520 --> 0:06:48.760 I would want to play. I think I would want 0:06:48.839 --> 0:06:51.960 some reps. Okay, now, listen, I this is not going 0:06:52.000 --> 0:06:54.560 to make a difference. Think about this. Were there any 0:06:54.600 --> 0:06:57.599 preseason games last year, Paul, were there any zero? Okay, 0:06:57.680 --> 0:07:00.679 zero point zero? Yeah, I would say that Kyler Murray 0:07:00.720 --> 0:07:02.840 came out of the shoot pretty pretty well. And I 0:07:02.880 --> 0:07:05.120 think the Arizona Cardinals did at two and oh. As 0:07:05.160 --> 0:07:07.080 a matter of fact, beating the forty nine ers in 0:07:07.120 --> 0:07:10.320 Week one, he was twenty six of forty PAULYI for 0:07:10.360 --> 0:07:12.680 two hundred and thirty yards. He did throw a pick, 0:07:12.760 --> 0:07:15.520 but he also threw a touchdown. And then week two, 0:07:15.600 --> 0:07:20.080 of course, he was twenty four of thirty eight as 0:07:20.120 --> 0:07:22.960 a matter of fact, Polyi and for two hundred and 0:07:23.000 --> 0:07:26.440 eighty six yards. So I mean he did well in 0:07:26.560 --> 0:07:28.960 both of those games right there, and the Cardinals won 0:07:29.040 --> 0:07:31.520 him both, Okay, and we haven't heard from Kyler since 0:07:31.560 --> 0:07:33.560 before the Kansas City game, but he did this sideline 0:07:33.600 --> 0:07:36.720 interview at the ESPN and after the Cardinals offense got 0:07:36.840 --> 0:07:39.640 nine snaps a trio, three and outs for a grand 0:07:39.640 --> 0:07:43.080 total of negative one yard. He was pretty honest. He said, quote, 0:07:43.080 --> 0:07:45.280 we got to clean some stuff up, get some things right. 0:07:45.320 --> 0:07:47.560 They kicked our butt for the three drives we are 0:07:47.560 --> 0:07:49.160 out there. It is what it is. Would be better 0:07:49.160 --> 0:07:52.080 about it when it counts. And we know his approach. 0:07:52.160 --> 0:07:55.520 Wolf he doesn't consider it real. So you're just not 0:07:55.520 --> 0:07:57.680 going to get much buy in from him in the 0:07:57.720 --> 0:08:01.720 first place. You're just not Oh, Cliff Kingsbury has given 0:08:01.760 --> 0:08:05.600 him Saturday night off. The other takeaway I think from camp, 0:08:05.680 --> 0:08:07.960 along with the lack of physicality, would be yours and 0:08:08.000 --> 0:08:10.400 I think you probably maybe the one area we would 0:08:10.440 --> 0:08:15.200 agree is the advent of increased leadership, and Cliff Kingsbury 0:08:15.280 --> 0:08:17.840 cited that today trending in the right direction. You know, 0:08:17.880 --> 0:08:19.680 I think the accountability on this team with a lot 0:08:19.720 --> 0:08:23.360 of the leaders we brought in has really leveled up, 0:08:23.400 --> 0:08:26.920 if you will. The JJ's Ronnie Hudson, Cole McCoys and 0:08:27.000 --> 0:08:29.080 those guys are guys that do it right. All the time, 0:08:29.160 --> 0:08:31.679 and you since that other guys are kind of falling 0:08:31.680 --> 0:08:34.400 in line. Man. It's not only that, Polly. It's not 0:08:34.400 --> 0:08:36.240 only you know the fact that they're going out there 0:08:36.320 --> 0:08:39.120 and they're they're leading, and they're talking about this stuff 0:08:39.200 --> 0:08:42.160 right here. It's also the fact that in a game, Polly, 0:08:42.240 --> 0:08:44.280 what are you going to do? If JJ Watt walks 0:08:44.400 --> 0:08:46.760 up on you? What are you gonna do? Paul? You're 0:08:46.800 --> 0:08:49.320 gonna look away? Polly can act like he's not talking 0:08:49.360 --> 0:08:51.240 to you. Polly, what are you going to do? I 0:08:51.320 --> 0:08:54.240 look straight up at him. He's an enormous man, so 0:08:54.280 --> 0:08:56.800 I probably get blash looking straight up. He's gonna look 0:08:56.800 --> 0:08:59.560 at you and say, Paul, what are you doing? You're 0:08:59.679 --> 0:09:03.160 killing us out here? Pick it up? See and you know, 0:09:03.280 --> 0:09:05.600 what are you gonna do? Paul? You're gonna respond to that. 0:09:05.920 --> 0:09:09.040 Of course you're gonna. It's called accountability. This is what 0:09:09.160 --> 0:09:13.160 leadership is. You play, You play like a mad person. 0:09:13.440 --> 0:09:16.000 You play harder than anybody else, and you hold yourself 0:09:16.040 --> 0:09:19.959 to a standard higher than anybody else, and everyone knows it, 0:09:20.440 --> 0:09:23.040 so that when you walk up on somebody else and 0:09:23.080 --> 0:09:26.040 look at him and say, you are killing us on 0:09:26.080 --> 0:09:29.000 this field. We need you, Now, what are you going 0:09:29.080 --> 0:09:31.080 to do about it? Man, I'll tell you what. You're 0:09:31.120 --> 0:09:34.000 gonna respond in a very very positive way for the 0:09:34.040 --> 0:09:36.600 most part, knowing that this guy holds himself to a 0:09:36.679 --> 0:09:42.040 standard he'd never hold you two. Accountability is part of leadership. See. 0:09:42.080 --> 0:09:44.880 And it's exactly what I would tell to the analytics 0:09:44.920 --> 0:09:48.240 crowd that likes to dismiss leadership, boy, because they can't 0:09:48.280 --> 0:09:52.080 quantify leadership. You can't put leadership into a numerical formula, 0:09:52.120 --> 0:09:56.040 so they dismiss leadership. But you're right, leadership equals accountability, 0:09:56.240 --> 0:09:59.760 and then accountability, hopefully equals equals a team that's gonna 0:09:59.760 --> 0:10:02.559 do something about leading the league and penalties and leading 0:10:02.559 --> 0:10:05.800 the league and drive stalled by presnap penalties. One thing 0:10:05.840 --> 0:10:07.640 I did like about this camp. If you made a 0:10:07.640 --> 0:10:10.520 presnap penalty boom, you came out. You had to come 0:10:10.559 --> 0:10:13.480 out of the drill in front of all your teammates. Yes, 0:10:13.720 --> 0:10:15.680 and I like that. In fact, you know what, I'd 0:10:15.679 --> 0:10:18.920 actually do that in the preseason games if I'm Cliff Kingsbury, 0:10:19.080 --> 0:10:21.320 if you have a false start, for example, in DJ 0:10:21.440 --> 0:10:23.320 Humphreys has done it, Rodney Hudson has done it. In 0:10:23.320 --> 0:10:25.680 this preseason. You know what, you come out of the 0:10:25.720 --> 0:10:28.680 game and your replacement goes in. I think that would 0:10:28.800 --> 0:10:31.079 really send home a message in the preseason, right And 0:10:31.160 --> 0:10:34.200 anyone who's talking about leadership and not pointing to leadership 0:10:34.240 --> 0:10:37.200 and not giving leadership it's due hasn't moistened a jock 0:10:37.280 --> 0:10:39.280 in twenty five years. That's what I'm going to tell 0:10:39.280 --> 0:10:41.560 you right now, Paul. So for me, I want to 0:10:41.559 --> 0:10:43.720 see this game, the thing I'm going to be watching 0:10:43.760 --> 0:10:48.880 more than anything else when we go to Tennessee. Pauly, here, 0:10:48.880 --> 0:10:52.360 here we go, the big thing that Wolf's gonna be watching. 0:10:52.520 --> 0:10:56.120 Look at the line of scrimmage, baby, the bloody knuckles. 0:10:56.559 --> 0:10:59.200 That's where it's all gonna happen on both sides of 0:10:59.200 --> 0:11:03.520 the ball, Paul, offensively and defensively. What are you gonna 0:11:03.600 --> 0:11:06.840 do about it? Well, we're back to disagreeing because the 0:11:06.880 --> 0:11:09.200 big thing you have to watch is Andy Isabella. Obviously, 0:11:09.280 --> 0:11:12.680 that says Andy Isabella, who have other things I'm watching 0:11:12.720 --> 0:11:15.720 as well, who, by the way, coach said he needed 0:11:15.760 --> 0:11:17.959 a big week, and I'm here to tell you he 0:11:18.040 --> 0:11:19.920 had a big week and he may or may not 0:11:20.000 --> 0:11:22.120 have had a big practice today based on whether you 0:11:22.160 --> 0:11:24.440 can or cannot report on what happened in practice. I'm 0:11:24.440 --> 0:11:27.120 just saying without saying. Episode four of the Dave Pash 0:11:27.200 --> 0:11:32.000 Podcasts featuring ESPN NFL analyst Mina Kimes is available now 0:11:32.120 --> 0:11:34.480 wherever you get your podcast, So Lea's updates on the 0:11:34.520 --> 0:11:38.600 Dave Pash Pod. Follow along on Twitter at Pash Pod. 0:11:39.120 --> 0:11:41.880 Speaking Up, Dave Pash will jump in and we're gonna 0:11:41.920 --> 0:11:44.880 talk to Eno Benjamin, and you could argue that one 0:11:44.920 --> 0:11:48.240 of the most consistent camp standouts would be the former 0:11:48.320 --> 0:11:50.640 ANSU running back that is next on the Big Red 0:11:50.679 --> 0:11:54.120 Rate presented by Satan Ford and Gilbert We are Satan Ford. 0:12:00.320 --> 0:12:02.800 Eno Benjamin takes a line drive kick three yards deep 0:12:02.800 --> 0:12:04.840 in his own then zone out across the numbers at 0:12:04.880 --> 0:12:07.360 ten to twenty. He's got a lane at the thirty 0:12:07.400 --> 0:12:11.600 and then's tackled at the thirty three yard line, Eno Benjamin. 0:12:11.760 --> 0:12:14.920 Nice vision and a first, Eno Benjamin to run up 0:12:14.920 --> 0:12:17.120 the middle. He's got room across the forty to the fifty. 0:12:17.360 --> 0:12:19.600 He's been the near sideline at the forty trying to 0:12:19.600 --> 0:12:22.440 turn on the jets at the thirty inside that's twenty 0:12:22.559 --> 0:12:26.400 five and Eno Benjamin. How about that for the former 0:12:26.440 --> 0:12:28.600 A se running back first and goal from the six 0:12:28.720 --> 0:12:31.120 to give his Dino Benjamin off the left side. He's 0:12:31.160 --> 0:12:34.160 got plenty of room to run and he faults into 0:12:34.200 --> 0:12:38.560 the end zone untouched Cardinal's touchdown as a calf to drive. 0:12:38.600 --> 0:12:42.760 After the takeaway by the defense, Eno Benjamin cashes it 0:12:42.840 --> 0:12:46.840 in for six. There you go, one of the stars 0:12:46.880 --> 0:12:49.760 of the pre season. How about a debut against Dallas 0:12:50.600 --> 0:12:54.920 the d in Big d standing Ford, You know what, dang, 0:12:55.080 --> 0:12:58.720 that was impressive. Thirty eight yard run, six yard touchdown 0:12:58.760 --> 0:13:01.000 in that game. And it's been white a Cardinals camp 0:13:01.040 --> 0:13:03.559 for our guests. Did you know, Dave Pass it is 0:13:03.559 --> 0:13:05.200 a pleasure to have the voice of the Cardinals sitting 0:13:05.240 --> 0:13:06.920 in on this segment of The Big Red Rage presented 0:13:06.920 --> 0:13:09.319 by santan Ford and Gilbert. Did you know, Dave? If 0:13:09.320 --> 0:13:13.240 you google up the name Eno, only Eno Benjamin comes up. 0:13:13.960 --> 0:13:16.720 The one and only Eno Benjamin joins us right now? 0:13:16.960 --> 0:13:19.520 Is that true? You know? How about famous Enos for 0:13:19.559 --> 0:13:22.000 five hundred dollars? Who else shares your name that we 0:13:22.000 --> 0:13:24.960 should know about? You know, I am not completely share 0:13:25.000 --> 0:13:28.280 about that. There you go, it's singular. Are we doing 0:13:28.480 --> 0:13:30.520 I'm doing good? And I appreciate you guys for having men. 0:13:31.080 --> 0:13:33.320 How's camp going? Give us a little here you go 0:13:33.559 --> 0:13:36.640 and camp is officially ramped. You're going into the final 0:13:36.720 --> 0:13:42.200 preseason game. Just tell us your thoughts. Really just leaving 0:13:42.760 --> 0:13:45.760 on a high note. I'm finishing everything strong, finishing every 0:13:45.840 --> 0:13:48.679 last rep that I get, being the last guy I'm 0:13:48.760 --> 0:13:51.360 to leave the meetings just as far as understanding everything, 0:13:52.040 --> 0:13:55.080 just being one of those guys in order to push 0:13:55.120 --> 0:13:58.240 past this last hump. Does this feel like the NFL 0:13:58.320 --> 0:14:01.200 this year? I mean, it had to have been very 0:14:01.280 --> 0:14:04.240 strange for you after dreaming I'm sure about playing in 0:14:04.240 --> 0:14:06.240 the NFL to get there last year and have to 0:14:06.280 --> 0:14:09.040 be dealing with all the protocols. I know you still 0:14:09.080 --> 0:14:11.240 have them, but at least there are fans. Does it 0:14:11.400 --> 0:14:15.000 feel more like you're an NFL player this year? Definitely? 0:14:15.440 --> 0:14:18.680 Like you said, unfortunately, last year we were hit with 0:14:19.000 --> 0:14:21.920 a COVID and so the season didn't go as planned 0:14:21.960 --> 0:14:24.440 as far as I'm just having fans in the stadium 0:14:24.440 --> 0:14:27.280 and just having that that atmosphere, that fan field, and 0:14:27.360 --> 0:14:30.480 so this year's I'm definitely I'm a lot different. We're 0:14:30.520 --> 0:14:33.400 going back out there. Um, the Red Sea was showing 0:14:33.480 --> 0:14:35.600 up and they were allowed these past two weeks, and 0:14:35.600 --> 0:14:38.000 so it was definitely a great feeling having those having 0:14:38.040 --> 0:14:41.360 those fans. Yeah, you do have the advantage of preseason 0:14:41.400 --> 0:14:43.640 games a year ago, as we all know. Just compare 0:14:43.680 --> 0:14:46.840 and contrast this time a year ago versus now. How 0:14:46.920 --> 0:14:51.400 much more are you playing versus thinking, I'm a lot 0:14:51.480 --> 0:14:56.040 more things that I learned in the meeting room. I'm 0:14:56.080 --> 0:14:58.400 no longer having to really think about it on the field. 0:14:58.400 --> 0:15:00.800 It's kind of like second nature as opposed to last 0:15:00.840 --> 0:15:04.760 season it was the mental breakdowns as far as trying 0:15:04.800 --> 0:15:07.840 to recollect everything that you learn in meeting and then 0:15:07.880 --> 0:15:10.680 implying into the field. This year is definitely a lot 0:15:10.720 --> 0:15:13.880 more comfortable, and it's just second nature. Like I said, 0:15:14.760 --> 0:15:16.960 what are the coaches telling you? Are they saying, you know, 0:15:17.320 --> 0:15:19.280 we're going to keep x amount of running back, so 0:15:19.320 --> 0:15:20.760 here's what you have to do to make the team 0:15:20.880 --> 0:15:23.320 or is it just about you? Do they say, you know, 0:15:23.360 --> 0:15:25.920 this is what we need from you to make the team, 0:15:25.960 --> 0:15:28.040 and how much of that is based on what you 0:15:28.120 --> 0:15:31.480 do on special teams? Um? More so, it's just doing 0:15:31.520 --> 0:15:35.000 everything that's asked to the best of my ability and 0:15:35.040 --> 0:15:37.800 just really just going just knowing that you put your 0:15:37.840 --> 0:15:40.160 best foot forward and however it plays out, it will 0:15:40.200 --> 0:15:43.200 play out. But as far as those conversations, um, they 0:15:43.240 --> 0:15:46.479 necessarily don't take place. It's kind of something that's understood. 0:15:46.520 --> 0:15:49.360 I would say, how about your conversation with the GM 0:15:49.360 --> 0:15:51.760 in the offseason. You know, Benjamin as our guest, it's 0:15:51.800 --> 0:15:53.960 all about you here on the big Red Rage present 0:15:53.960 --> 0:15:55.760 of a Santan forward and Gilbert I know on the 0:15:55.800 --> 0:15:58.040 Red Sea Report you share that you met with Steve Kim. 0:15:58.160 --> 0:16:01.680 Tell us about that and what your takeaways were really 0:16:01.720 --> 0:16:04.840 just um, that he believes in me as back. Mum. 0:16:05.280 --> 0:16:08.080 It was actually last season. I wasn't on special teams 0:16:08.120 --> 0:16:09.600 and so we were just kind of chopping it up 0:16:09.640 --> 0:16:12.160 and talking and he was one of those guys saying 0:16:12.160 --> 0:16:14.200 he believed in me and that I could do something 0:16:14.280 --> 0:16:17.560 and help this team here in the future. Interesting, you know, 0:16:17.680 --> 0:16:21.080 I mean, so, tell us about the running back room. 0:16:21.320 --> 0:16:23.960 Dave mentioned it right here. You go, You've had first 0:16:23.960 --> 0:16:26.400 team reps, We've seen you get quite a bit of action. 0:16:26.760 --> 0:16:28.480 How do you think this is all going to play out? 0:16:28.560 --> 0:16:31.480 And is the room for a four running back rotation 0:16:31.560 --> 0:16:34.760 once the regular season starts to some degree? Um, I 0:16:34.800 --> 0:16:37.560 honestly could not tell you, Um, I just know. Um. 0:16:37.640 --> 0:16:40.600 For me, it's just being just being ready for whenever 0:16:40.640 --> 0:16:43.920 your your name, your numbers called, being ready to step 0:16:43.920 --> 0:16:46.480 on the field and execute whatever is being asked. What 0:16:46.560 --> 0:16:48.280 are some of the things that you can tell us? 0:16:48.320 --> 0:16:51.120 And I'm not necessarily asking you to get deep into 0:16:51.120 --> 0:16:53.800 the woods on xs and o's. But for the fans 0:16:53.800 --> 0:16:56.080 that are curious about what the offense is going to 0:16:56.200 --> 0:16:59.120 look like this year in terms of comparison to last year, 0:16:59.160 --> 0:17:02.280 what do you think will be different this year? I 0:17:02.320 --> 0:17:06.120 think there's a lot more playmakers, um, everywhere in every position. UM. 0:17:06.440 --> 0:17:08.600 The guys that were returning from last year, I feel 0:17:08.640 --> 0:17:12.520 like they're much more um, explosive and more focused as 0:17:12.520 --> 0:17:15.359 far as I'm the demeanor, you know, I see you 0:17:15.359 --> 0:17:17.200 guys get into the red zone and you talk about 0:17:17.240 --> 0:17:19.439 the playmakers. Now I see an aj Green in the 0:17:19.480 --> 0:17:22.080 red zone six foot four. I see a Rondelle more 0:17:22.240 --> 0:17:24.800 in the slot. How he makes guys miss? You know? 0:17:24.880 --> 0:17:28.159 I see a James Connor at two thirty five. This 0:17:28.240 --> 0:17:29.880 is gonna be a different team in the red zone, 0:17:29.960 --> 0:17:31.919 isn't it. Oh yes, sir, Um. The way I like 0:17:32.000 --> 0:17:34.520 to think of it is it's more like pick your poison. Um. 0:17:34.920 --> 0:17:37.399 There's playmakers everywhere lined up on the field, UM, and 0:17:37.400 --> 0:17:40.000 it's just about making it happen. How about you? Has 0:17:40.040 --> 0:17:41.720 there been a moment in this camp where you go, Okay, 0:17:41.720 --> 0:17:44.440 you know what, I feel like I really belong here? 0:17:44.680 --> 0:17:47.239 Did that happen last year? Has it happened? Is it 0:17:47.320 --> 0:17:49.639 yet to happen? Have you had that moment? Um? Yes, sir. 0:17:49.760 --> 0:17:52.440 I feel like if you don't have that confidence from 0:17:52.440 --> 0:17:56.160 the jump, then you're you're already losing. Um. That's my mentality, 0:17:56.200 --> 0:17:58.320 that's my mindset every day that I wake up that 0:17:58.359 --> 0:18:01.640 I belong here and I've been waiting for the opportunity 0:18:01.880 --> 0:18:04.240 UM to do so. And it's now showing. Who is 0:18:04.280 --> 0:18:07.720 the guy? Because you're from close to Dallas, who is 0:18:07.760 --> 0:18:10.679 the guy that you admired and wanted to be like 0:18:10.840 --> 0:18:15.800 growing up? Growing up? Um? Honestly, I couldn't tell you 0:18:15.840 --> 0:18:18.359 that there was someone, um that I wanted to be 0:18:18.440 --> 0:18:22.360 like as far as growing up UM. Sports wise, UM, 0:18:22.400 --> 0:18:24.880 there's people that I modeled my game after, but not 0:18:25.040 --> 0:18:27.200 too many people that I guess I wanted to be left. 0:18:27.240 --> 0:18:29.400 That's what I meant. I meant as a player. Yeah, 0:18:29.400 --> 0:18:31.480 who who was like the player you said that's the 0:18:31.560 --> 0:18:33.760 type of player I want to be. UM. Really, there's 0:18:33.800 --> 0:18:35.679 a there's a lot of mixes of them. UM. I 0:18:35.800 --> 0:18:39.800 loved Dez Bryant's fire attitude. UM during the games. Um, 0:18:39.840 --> 0:18:42.919 he brought something to him, He brought juice to the field. UM. 0:18:42.960 --> 0:18:45.800 I grew up watching. I guess you would say, UM, 0:18:45.840 --> 0:18:49.720 just like the Marian Barber's um of the NFL and 0:18:49.760 --> 0:18:52.920 stuff like that. Just tough, hard nosed running guys. UM 0:18:52.960 --> 0:18:55.880 that made things happen. You're the first person I've ever 0:18:55.920 --> 0:18:58.520 heard say that they wanted to that they felt that 0:18:58.600 --> 0:19:01.000 Marian Barber was somebody that they licked up as a player. 0:19:01.080 --> 0:19:02.719 But I get it because those are the those are 0:19:02.720 --> 0:19:05.479 the cowboys you watch growing up. I get Yeah. Did 0:19:05.520 --> 0:19:08.240 I see somewhere you told the media that you studied 0:19:08.240 --> 0:19:11.480 film or still study film of other running backs. Uh. Yeah. 0:19:11.920 --> 0:19:14.879 That's definitely one thing that I think helps me in 0:19:14.920 --> 0:19:17.400 my craft. UM. I feel like you can never be 0:19:17.440 --> 0:19:19.800 too content with what you do. UM. And you you're 0:19:19.840 --> 0:19:22.680 always learning, UM, never stopped learning, no matter how old 0:19:22.720 --> 0:19:25.320 you are. UM. And so little things and tidbits that 0:19:25.359 --> 0:19:27.399 I could get from people's game UM and add it 0:19:27.440 --> 0:19:29.840 to my game is one thing UM that I think 0:19:29.840 --> 0:19:33.320 that helps me have a competitive advantage over everyone who's 0:19:33.320 --> 0:19:35.800 in the rotation. Who whose film have you watched recently 0:19:35.920 --> 0:19:39.040 or here this year? Um, I would say, Um, the guys, 0:19:39.119 --> 0:19:42.159 I mean, I'm even watching the younger guys now, the JK. Dobbins. Um. 0:19:42.200 --> 0:19:44.240 I love the stuff that they put on film, Um 0:19:44.280 --> 0:19:48.600 DeAndre Swift, but more so on the Saquon Barkley's UM, 0:19:48.640 --> 0:19:51.600 even Adrian Peterston's still at this point. UM. Just the 0:19:51.680 --> 0:19:54.080 things that they're able to do UM with their feet 0:19:54.080 --> 0:19:57.840 and stuff like that is tremendously awesome. So when you're 0:19:57.880 --> 0:20:01.000 studying film, what all you may should feet? What all 0:20:01.000 --> 0:20:06.280 are you looking at? What all you studying? Um? Um specifically, 0:20:06.840 --> 0:20:10.280 I guess more so when I'm watching film, I'm watching defenses. Uh, 0:20:10.720 --> 0:20:13.200 I'm just seeing the type of caliber guys and how 0:20:13.200 --> 0:20:16.960 they play. But also mostly UM looking and taking the 0:20:17.040 --> 0:20:20.639