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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys at now Here are Bill Jones, Everson Wolves,
Speaker 1: and Nicky Spagnola. And it is a Tuesday in the
Speaker 1: SWBC Mortgage studios there at the Star in Frisco. Hello,
Speaker 1: Mickey Spagnola, I am Bill Jones. And it is a
Speaker 1: very big day, of course, as it is election day.
Speaker 1: It's also NFL trade deadline day coming up in just
Speaker 1: over an hour from now that deadline. Everson Walls should
Speaker 1: be joining us shortly. And Mickey, We've got a little
Speaker 1: breaking news from NFL dot Com to start off our
Speaker 1: day as well. Yes, we absolutely do um the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: Our NFL dot Com is reporting the Cowboys haven't officially
Speaker 1: said anything, uh that Andy Dalton is going to end
Speaker 1: up going on reserve COVID nineteen. Uh. First will become
Speaker 1: the first franchise or the team's first player to land
Speaker 1: on the list since basically the start of training camp.
Speaker 1: Uh so uh, we'll see what the team has to
Speaker 1: say officially, but he will be on reserve COVID list,
Speaker 1: meaning he is not eligible to play, uh for least
Speaker 1: this week, and I think you have to be on
Speaker 1: for a couple of weeks built uh, depending on uh
Speaker 1: were you testing positive? Did you have contact with somebody
Speaker 1: that tested positive? I see it's been reported that he
Speaker 1: uh it says he was not a symptomatic. Uh so, um,
Speaker 1: well we'll see how it says he It's okay. So
Speaker 1: that again it's you see a report that says he
Speaker 1: was not a symptomatic. Yeah, that meaning he was symptomatic.
Speaker 1: But I think that's what that means. So, um, it's
Speaker 1: kind of not asymptomatic. That's a weird way of saying, right, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: absolutely so, because you could be placed on the COVID
Speaker 1: list just saying I don't not like you. That's right.
Speaker 1: Let's get a double negative and there's everything. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: so anyway, Uh, once again, here we go twenty twenty,
Speaker 1: and uh, of all things to happen, is uh, not
Speaker 1: only do you lose your starting quarterback for the season,
Speaker 1: but now uh a year back up who became the
Speaker 1: starter who was out this past game because of concussion
Speaker 1: proto call, and it sounded like they were pretty encouraged
Speaker 1: that he would be back this week Andy Dalton according
Speaker 1: to Jerry Jones this morning, and now you don't have him,
Speaker 1: so that complicates the situation even more. I think everybody,
Speaker 1: you guys, and we can talk about this is assuming
Speaker 1: that Ben Denucci will make his second start. But starting tomorrow,
Speaker 1: Cooper Rush is eligible to practice with the team. And
Speaker 1: remember they had signed him last week. He completed his
Speaker 1: six days of COVID protocol and he can be with
Speaker 1: the team I think starting today. So that's also an
Speaker 1: option too, depending on how they want to go, along
Speaker 1: with Garrett Gilbert, who did serve as the backup this
Speaker 1: past week. So we got a little bit to talk
Speaker 1: about today here on Mick Shots. We got a lot
Speaker 1: of quarterbacks. We got a lot of quarterbacks on the roster.
Speaker 1: That's a lot you may have to go on. I
Speaker 1: don't think I've ever seen the team with so many quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: Might have to go on to the coaching staff too.
Speaker 1: With nuts Meyer and Tolzine, you got some other guys
Speaker 1: that he played in the league, and Kellen mooreby, yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe he can come out for Seneca Wallace is on
Speaker 1: that Seneca Wallace too, that's right. I forgot about him.
Speaker 1: So Seneca Wallace, Iowa State Pilot Pilot Point, Texas. Oh really,
Speaker 1: I know that young man very well. Yes, I know
Speaker 1: very well. His uncle used to date my sister in law.
Speaker 1: I know him very well. He is a good young man.
Speaker 1: I've been out to Pilot Point many times hanging out
Speaker 1: with the Bruce family, and that he's a good man,
Speaker 1: raised very well. All right. Well, um, so yeah, and
Speaker 1: we should point out and again as Mickey said off
Speaker 1: the top, um, the Cowboys have not said anything, have
Speaker 1: not made the move official yet or made any comment
Speaker 1: whatsoever on it. Uh. This is these are reports right now,
Speaker 1: and Todd Archer was the first to report at NFL
Speaker 1: dot com and rap Report has reported it now as well.
Speaker 1: And so um, and we don't know for sure if
Speaker 1: if even though you didn't see a report about him
Speaker 1: not being asymptomatic. Uh, we don't know for sure that
Speaker 1: he tested positive. It could be contact Tracy that puts
Speaker 1: him on there. And so we're still in a gray
Speaker 1: area as far as exactly what's going on with Andy Dalton.
Speaker 1: And it does appear and I was gonna say, and
Speaker 1: this is this is a good thing to point out too, uh,
Speaker 1: you know he started, he's already started, uh reportedly his
Speaker 1: self quarantine process the Cowboys of beginning contact tracing. But
Speaker 1: remember he wasn't on the trip to Philadelphia this weekend,
Speaker 1: and none of the Cowboys players tested positive before the
Speaker 1: Philly game, and Monday's tests were all negative. So from
Speaker 1: if there's anything encouraging about the whole deal, then that's uh,
Speaker 1: you know, you can maybe it's not spreading like Baltimore,
Speaker 1: because if you saw what happened with the Ravens, I
Speaker 1: think they have to put seven players on the COVID
Speaker 1: list because of contact tracing with Humphreys. Is that the
Speaker 1: guy's name of the cornerback, Yes, number forty four, the cornerback.
Speaker 1: So so we'll see where it goes from there. And
Speaker 1: I guess when the if official transactions come down at
Speaker 1: three o'clock on trade deadline day and election day, anything
Speaker 1: else going on today, we'll see if that's when it
Speaker 1: becomes official. So do we have to worry about the
Speaker 1: Russians interfering with our COVID list? We have to worry
Speaker 1: about Andy Dalton being hijacked by the Russians. Ever since,
Speaker 1: ever since we're two and six, we're two and six.
Speaker 1: I don't think anyone's Hey, we're still America's team, so
Speaker 1: there might be a little attraction there still. So it
Speaker 1: is a possibility though, that he could still play. Andy Dalton. No, No,
Speaker 1: it sounds like the reports indicate he will be out
Speaker 1: this week. Yeah, even if it could be a negative,
Speaker 1: a false negative, a false positive, I would imagine that
Speaker 1: he has of right now, they will Yeah, I was
Speaker 1: gonna say, I would imagine. I would imagine they've tested
Speaker 1: it positive before this all, you know, twice at least
Speaker 1: before this all came out. So because well, as a
Speaker 1: matter of fact, as a matter of fact, Stephen Jones
Speaker 1: on his radio show yesterday was talking about just in general,
Speaker 1: about COVID nineteen, and he was talking about, I think
Speaker 1: every team obviously is prepared for a positive at some
Speaker 1: point during the season, and you would be naive to
Speaker 1: think words to this effect. You would be naive to
Speaker 1: think that it wouldn't affect your team at some point.
Speaker 1: And I mean it almost sounded as if, for the
Speaker 1: way he answered the question that he might already have
Speaker 1: some knowledge of some things going on, but you know,
Speaker 1: and and to your point, Mickey, I would think that
Speaker 1: before it becomes public knowledge. There's probably been there might
Speaker 1: have been a couple of positives. We'll see, yeah, and
Speaker 1: then the other thing, you know. And and last night
Speaker 1: during Mike McCarthy's conference call, uh, someone asked him about, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, you guys keep giving the message there's more
Speaker 1: tests coming up positive around the league and you guys
Speaker 1: haven't had any. And I was thinking, I bet McCarthy's
Speaker 1: sitting there knocking on woods. It's like, don't be against me, right,
Speaker 1: but he probably all ready knew. And the way the
Speaker 1: way he answered it was very vague. He said, uh,
Speaker 1: he basically said, yeah, you know, it's part of the
Speaker 1: team messaging every day, and he just kind of gave
Speaker 1: a real general response to it. So, um, yeah, it's like,
Speaker 1: you know, more we go on this. You guys, no
Speaker 1: one's immune and no team is immune and unless you're
Speaker 1: in a bubble um, you know. So you so you're
Speaker 1: saying that Mike McCarthy's poker face sucks well when he
Speaker 1: said it worked great yesterday and great yesterday, so uh,
Speaker 1: and even you know what, and even this morning when
Speaker 1: Jerry was talking about it and he was talking very
Speaker 1: positively when they must have gone on about ten minutes,
Speaker 1: it seemed like on the tanking and the trade deadline,
Speaker 1: and you know, when they talked about the trade deadline,
Speaker 1: Jerry Jerry kind of pointed out, we just wasted a
Speaker 1: lot of time on something that's not going to happen.
Speaker 1: But he had mentioned his positivity going forward was we've
Speaker 1: got Andy Dalton. We get Andy Dalton back. So who knows,
Speaker 1: maybe it just turned up this morning. And okay, so okay,
Speaker 1: we've detailed the options they have on the roster at quarterback.
Speaker 1: We've obviously been de Nucci. You got Gary Gilbert who
Speaker 1: is the backup last week, and Cooper Rush, who is
Speaker 1: says Mickey said, has the opportunity to go ahead and
Speaker 1: be on the practice field and in meetings, is he's cleared.
Speaker 1: We assume he has cleared all the COVID protocols, that
Speaker 1: the time has passed since they picked him up last week.
Speaker 1: So who do you go with at quarterback this week?
Speaker 1: Who do you start preparing when you hit that practice
Speaker 1: field tomorrow morning? Who goes out with the ones at quarterback?
Speaker 1: You ask you what they're gonna do or what they
Speaker 1: should do? Either way, either way you want to attack it.
Speaker 1: You know, I think Initially he goes out with the
Speaker 1: ones and then they see where Cooper Rush is. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Danucci goes out, and then you see where Cooper Rush is.
Speaker 1: And I would imagine you're gonna work real hard to
Speaker 1: get Cooper Rush ready, and maybe Dnuci Danucci goes on
Speaker 1: on a short, loose leash. Gosh, I'm having trouble with
Speaker 1: Dunuci leash. I got him, Bill, I got him. And
Speaker 1: then maybe he's on a short leashuh, and you get
Speaker 1: Cooper ready. You remember, you know, we can go back
Speaker 1: to ninety three when Jason Garrett made his first start
Speaker 1: as a rookie for the Cowboys when Troy Aikman was
Speaker 1: injured and had just traded or just signed Bernie Kozar
Speaker 1: after Cleveland released him, and if you remember, Jason played
Speaker 1: two possessions. The Cowboys had a three nothing lead, and
Speaker 1: then they went straight to Kozar on that third possession
Speaker 1: and he finished off the game and they ended up
Speaker 1: winning twenty to fifteen. Which was one of those quarterbacks
Speaker 1: on Friday Everson that I was pointing out they were
Speaker 1: giving him credit for winning his first start as a
Speaker 1: rookie even though he only played two possessions. So maybe
Speaker 1: that I got one more for you. What's that? I
Speaker 1: got one more for you. When Bernie Costa was released
Speaker 1: from the Cleveland Browns, guests who went with him, Oh, no,
Speaker 1: no way they were. They were cleaning house. Yeah, they
Speaker 1: were cleaning house, me, Bernie Cosa, David Brandon. But in
Speaker 1: regards to uh, sticking with the news, Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: that's good. You have to have the continuity going, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, that's what you want. You don't want to
Speaker 1: just indoctrinate someone else into the system when you know
Speaker 1: that denuches. I mean, if nothing else, he did a
Speaker 1: decent job of potentially managing what we had going on
Speaker 1: in the game. I mean with a few bad breaks.
Speaker 1: Uh you know, we ended up losing, of course, but
Speaker 1: if he could just hang in there, uh, get the
Speaker 1: ball out quicker number one, hanging the pocket a little
Speaker 1: bit better when he when he when he needs to
Speaker 1: or at least recognize quicker when the pocket is breaking down.
Speaker 1: And when he does scramble. You know, I don't know
Speaker 1: what this this Patrick Mahons things he's got going on
Speaker 1: in regards to how he throws the ball on the scramble,
Speaker 1: But he looks like in these Tommy John Surgery already
Speaker 1: had it. By the way he's throwing the balls. He
Speaker 1: should stop. Yeah, he should stopped doing that, you know.
Speaker 1: I mean, if nothing else, when you're scrambling, try and
Speaker 1: get out enough to where you can position yourself better.
Speaker 1: At least your body can be positioned better to be
Speaker 1: prepared to throw a better ball. I get it that
Speaker 1: he's escaping and he's trying to dip it and get
Speaker 1: rid of it. But sometimes if you just stand and
Speaker 1: deliver stronger, then you'll have a better chance of completing
Speaker 1: the past. Otherwise you're gonna be getting a bunch of
Speaker 1: tip balls. You're gonna be having guys jump your routes
Speaker 1: real fast, because not only is he flipping it out there,
Speaker 1: he's also eyeballing his receivers before he throws it to him.
Speaker 1: Classic mistake from a young quarterback. Yeah, all right, So
Speaker 1: he gets out of the pocket like that. Sorry, Bill,
Speaker 1: He's got to set his feet. You can't keep doing
Speaker 1: that that side arm stuff. You got to set your
Speaker 1: feet and try to throw the ball right. Set your feet.
Speaker 1: I think I think he's I'm pretty sure they corrected
Speaker 1: that already for him, because as much as he was
Speaker 1: under the rest you know, that's still you have to
Speaker 1: have a little bit of poise while you're trying to escape.
Speaker 1: So when you look at the three options at quarterback,
Speaker 1: which one of the three options has the most experience
Speaker 1: in the league, which one has taken the most snaps
Speaker 1: in the end? Ben d Nucci, Garrett Gilbert or Cooper Rush.
Speaker 1: I'm guessing it's Garrett Gilbert. It is Ben da Nucci.
Speaker 1: Bend Nucci has more. I've just been looking up Garrett
Speaker 1: Gilbert's career stats and Cooper Rush. And the interesting thing
Speaker 1: about Cooper Rush if they decided to go that route,
Speaker 1: and one of the reasons they would is he was
Speaker 1: obviously in the system last year. Now, how much does
Speaker 1: this offensive system differ this year as they're compared to
Speaker 1: last year, even though Kellen Moore was the offensive coordinator
Speaker 1: last year? How much as McCarthy tweaked it. But the
Speaker 1: irony of it is the reason that Cooper Rush was
Speaker 1: let go by the Cowboys was because they signed Andy Dalton.
Speaker 1: He was released back on May fourth, and then he
Speaker 1: was ultimately signed by the New York Giants and he
Speaker 1: made it through training camp with the Giants, was on
Speaker 1: their practice squad to start the season and then was
Speaker 1: let go off their practice squad. So anyway, he does
Speaker 1: have more preseason snaps, right, he does have more preseason
Speaker 1: snaps as I assume Garrett Gilbert does two. But as
Speaker 1: far as regular season Cooper Rush is one for three
Speaker 1: with two yards passing. He has one two yard completion
Speaker 1: in his career, Garrett Gilbert. That's a good rating, though,
Speaker 1: if you break it down, I can look it up
Speaker 1: just a second. I'll give you the quarterback raty Garrett
Speaker 1: Gilbert in a total and that's a total of five
Speaker 1: game some mop up duty for Cooper Rush. Garrett Gilbert
Speaker 1: in a total of six games is two out of
Speaker 1: six for forty yards and his career so and then
Speaker 1: of course Denucci was twenty one out of forty against
Speaker 1: Philadelphia after going two for three against Washington, so or whatever,
Speaker 1: two hundred odd yards. So you guys, maybe I had
Speaker 1: a premonition today because I decided that I looked. I
Speaker 1: looked at Denucci what he did in his first NFL start,
Speaker 1: and I was thinking, Okay, this guy's a seventh round pick.
Speaker 1: He was a two hundred and thirty first pick in
Speaker 1: the draft. So what happened with the fifth pick in
Speaker 1: the draft that made his first rookie NFL start on
Speaker 1: Sunday twah with Miami. Right, So, Denucci was twenty one
Speaker 1: of forty for one, eighty four sacks, no touchdowns, no interceptions,
Speaker 1: a sixty four point six quarterback rating. Tago Viola was
Speaker 1: twelve of twenty two for ninety three yards, one sack,
Speaker 1: one touchdown fifteen along which matched Denucci's long and an
Speaker 1: eighty point three quarterback rating. And if I went to
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow's first start as a rookie with Cincinnati, he
Speaker 1: was twenty three of thirty six for one ninety three,
Speaker 1: three sacks, no touchdowns, one interception along of nineteen and
Speaker 1: he had a sixty six point one quarterback rating. So
Speaker 1: all these people that are just all over Denucci that
Speaker 1: he's just no good, Well, there's what happened with the
Speaker 1: two top quarterbacks in the draft, and none of them
Speaker 1: threw for only Burrow through for more yards than Denucci
Speaker 1: did by thirteen yards. So again, rookie quarterbacks struggle. And
Speaker 1: I looked up just happened to look up one more
Speaker 1: thing before we go to break here, And Everson might
Speaker 1: remember this. In Troy's first start in the season open
Speaker 1: or nineteen eighty nine against New Orleans, he was seventeen
Speaker 1: oft in the soup and the Superdome, he was seventeen
Speaker 1: of thirty five for one hundred and eighty yards, same
Speaker 1: as Denucci. He was sacked twice, had two interceptions along
Speaker 1: of twenty four and his quarterback rating in that game
Speaker 1: forty point two. And he you know, and he took
Speaker 1: an ever loving beating by the Saints who were coming
Speaker 1: after him every down. And this after we had gone
Speaker 1: three and one in the preseason and you could not
Speaker 1: tell us that we were on our way to being
Speaker 1: the new university in Miami of the NFL. And d
Speaker 1: Nucci put up nine points, Troy got shut out twenty eighth. Nothing. Well,
Speaker 1: now we have to give two or some credit, even
Speaker 1: though let's say two has to give others credit. I
Speaker 1: think he's the only one to win his day, correct,
Speaker 1: And they put up and I think it's an NFL
Speaker 1: record of the first one to win his NFL debut
Speaker 1: with less than one hundred yards passing and they ended
Speaker 1: up putting up one points on offense. They had a
Speaker 1: return for a touchdown, I believe, And that's that's why
Speaker 1: I say all facets of the game, must help you
Speaker 1: in a ball game, must help a quarterback. I said
Speaker 1: that before we signed off on Friday. That still stands. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The biggest difference for Tua is he had twenty one
Speaker 1: points scored for him. He had twenty eight points by
Speaker 1: a halftime with the with the great help from Jared
Speaker 1: Goff quarterbacking on the other side. Of course, Danucci had
Speaker 1: great help from Carson Wentz quarterbacking on the other side.
Speaker 1: For the Eagles, is just that Cowboys weren't We're kicking
Speaker 1: field goals rather than getting touchdowns out of it, and
Speaker 1: didn't have the who was it the Andrew Van Ginkle
Speaker 1: seventy eight yard fumble return for a touchdown, By the way, Mickey,
Speaker 1: they also had a Jachem Grant eighty eight yard punt
Speaker 1: return for a touchdown had two Yeah, So they had
Speaker 1: two two returns for touchdowns. And it just goes to
Speaker 1: show it makes a world of difference in this league
Speaker 1: if you are playing from ahead instead of playing from behind,
Speaker 1: and two touchdown pass was like a one yard touchdown
Speaker 1: pass two, by the way, yes, which is which, by
Speaker 1: the way, is another reason why after going seven carries
Speaker 1: for forty two yards in the third quarter. You don't
Speaker 1: run a wide receiver pass and loose ten yards. There,
Speaker 1: you go, all right, let's we'll take it. We'll take
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Speaker 1: the Cowboys and the Steelers on Sunday afternoon at at
Speaker 1: and T Stadium. And we know of one quarterback who
Speaker 1: will start in that game, and that will be Big
Speaker 1: Ben row Us Burger for those Steelers. And we aren't
Speaker 1: sure if big Ben Denucci will be starting for the
Speaker 1: Cowboys are or not, but we shall see. And if
Speaker 1: you're just joining us, Andy Dalton reportedly we'll be placed
Speaker 1: on the COVID nineteen reserve list. And so the Cowboys
Speaker 1: are choosing between one of three quarterbacks that they have
Speaker 1: on their roster to trot out there for the first
Speaker 1: snaps of practice tomorrow when they reconvene here or at
Speaker 1: the Star in Frisco. Mickey, you got an opportunity to
Speaker 1: listen to Mike McCarthy yesterday in his press conference, Jerry
Speaker 1: Jones this morning, since we last got together, what stood
Speaker 1: out for you from either one of those? You know,
Speaker 1: I think the thing that stood out to me with
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy because everybody's kind of getting on this kick
Speaker 1: about big picture. Do you have to reassess what your
Speaker 1: goals are for this season starting off two and six?
Speaker 1: And and McCarthy pointed out, it's like at this point,
Speaker 1: you're you're not a big picture. He goes, my focus
Speaker 1: is on winning the third game, and I think that's
Speaker 1: what the team has to do. You can't sit there
Speaker 1: because you know what, you can only win one game
Speaker 1: at a time. You can't win four at once and
Speaker 1: get to six and six. So I thought it was
Speaker 1: a really good perspective on his point. It's like, let's
Speaker 1: continue to improve, let's try to win that third game,
Speaker 1: because you can't win four until you win three. Right.
Speaker 1: Uh So that's that part stood out to me. He
Speaker 1: hasn't thrown in the towel. He continues to say, you
Speaker 1: know nowadays everything, Wow, you're two and six, you might
Speaker 1: as well tank and get a better a better draft choice. Well,
Speaker 1: just remember his first year in Green Bay, he was
Speaker 1: four and eighth, and they ended up eight and eight.
Speaker 1: So from a coaching standpoint, there's no thoughts of throwing
Speaker 1: in the towel. As for Jerry, they were peppering him
Speaker 1: this morning about the trade deadline. Are you going to
Speaker 1: make a move? Are you're not going to make a move,
Speaker 1: And he finally, at the end of about a five
Speaker 1: minute discussion, said, we spend a lot of time on
Speaker 1: something that has high improbability today meaning improbable of making
Speaker 1: some sort of dramatic trade. And his point was, yeah,
Speaker 1: you could. He goes, you know, we're always ready to
Speaker 1: do something, but what are the chances that something just
Speaker 1: kind of falls in our lap. It's not we're going
Speaker 1: out there searching for something. And Stephen kind of said
Speaker 1: the same thing. And he also pointed out that you know,
Speaker 1: if you make a trade like that for somebody that
Speaker 1: can make a difference what kind of difference is that
Speaker 1: going to make on your salary cap going in the future.
Speaker 1: It's not all about the salary cap this year. And
Speaker 1: he went on to point out, he goes, you, we
Speaker 1: know the salary CAP's going to be less next year.
Speaker 1: There's there's no you know, if ans or butts about
Speaker 1: it with no fans in the stands. In most places,
Speaker 1: the CAP's gonna go down, so you got to be
Speaker 1: very careful on exactly what you do. He confirmed that
Speaker 1: they have no interest in trading Alden Smith. Evidently there
Speaker 1: was a report out there that Seattle was making a
Speaker 1: pitch for him, and he basically said, that's definitely correct.
Speaker 1: We were not interested in that. And then the last
Speaker 1: thing I think I'd like to point out from what
Speaker 1: Jerry had to say, they were talking about tanking and
Speaker 1: you know, getting younger guys in there, he goes. You
Speaker 1: always want to get younger guys snaps, he goes, and
Speaker 1: you should be doing that anyway to prepare for the
Speaker 1: next year. If you've got some young guys you think
Speaker 1: are part of your future, he goes, But just because
Speaker 1: you're getting and they interpreted as ce he's talking about
Speaker 1: already getting ready for next year, and that wasn't his point.
Speaker 1: His point was get young guys, snaps, and we should
Speaker 1: always be doing that, regardless of what your record is.
Speaker 1: But he wasn't big on the tanking subject. And then
Speaker 1: at the end he says, let's go out here and
Speaker 1: get better. So he's still in there. We'll see where
Speaker 1: it goes now having to play Gosh, this might go
Speaker 1: back to two thousand, two thousand and one when the
Speaker 1: Cowboys started four different quarterbacks. Everybody was making a big
Speaker 1: deal about starting three for the first time since twenty fifteen.
Speaker 1: Who knows, you many end up starting four different ones
Speaker 1: before this is all over. And even when you think
Speaker 1: about it, what do the Cowboys? Who has value on
Speaker 1: the Cowboys organization right now? Especially on the defensive side.
Speaker 1: You're not gonna get rid of any wide receivers. That's
Speaker 1: not going to happen. Contracts are two big boys going
Speaker 1: to take them. And like I said, on the defensive side,
Speaker 1: that's the only place you can look in regards to
Speaker 1: trying to trade someone. But no one wants what we have.
Speaker 1: We have the worst defense in the NFL right now, almost,
Speaker 1: and so there's there's no one like they talked about
Speaker 1: all the smith. But as far as I'm concerned, that
Speaker 1: would be a silly move to make because he's the
Speaker 1: only one that's making plays right now consistently on defense.
Speaker 1: You know, at this point we got to go forward
Speaker 1: and try to win. And I love his answer. I
Speaker 1: love his answer. We can only go one game at
Speaker 1: a time we cannot. We don't have the luxury to
Speaker 1: look ahead two or three games. So I like what
Speaker 1: they're doing. They're being creative and everything that they do.
Speaker 1: And I gotta say, man, our special teams, they've come
Speaker 1: up with some really good surprises and unique ways of
Speaker 1: looking at a ball game on how they can contribute.
Speaker 1: And I really do like the fact that no one's
Speaker 1: drawing in the town right now. As a matter of fact,
Speaker 1: seems like all the coaches are all in on what
Speaker 1: they're trying to trying to contribute to the team, you know,
Speaker 1: you know, and a big thing too right now. I mean,
Speaker 1: this is the staff's first year here, and it's about
Speaker 1: establishing what kind of culture you're going to have here.
Speaker 1: I mean this talk, and you have your quarterback for
Speaker 1: the future. I mean, Dak is the quarterback of the future.
Speaker 1: There's everybody in the organization has said that knows that.
Speaker 1: And so it's so this whole concept of taking in
Speaker 1: order to get Trevor Lawrence or something like that, Let's
Speaker 1: forget about that. You got Dak Prescott. He's your guy
Speaker 1: and and he's your guy going forward. They just they'll
Speaker 1: work out the contract eventually whatever. But you got to
Speaker 1: establish your culture. You a winning culture with this team.
Speaker 1: And it doesn't matter whether they've got the fourth pick
Speaker 1: or the ninth pick. I mean, you can screw up
Speaker 1: the fourth pick just as easily as you can, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, the fourteenth pick in the draft. So there's
Speaker 1: enough talent to go around. I mean, they got Ceedee
Speaker 1: Lamb with the seventeenth pick this year, so I wouldn't
Speaker 1: be concerned about that. I think the most important thing
Speaker 1: is is to develop a winning culture, your own winning culture,
Speaker 1: and establish the mindset, the play style that this coaching
Speaker 1: staff wants to have and expects out of its players.
Speaker 1: That's what I think the second half of this season
Speaker 1: is all about. And you know, and you do that
Speaker 1: day to day, game to game. It's not looking at
Speaker 1: the big picture. Although this takes care of the big picture.
Speaker 1: If you do those little things day in and day
Speaker 1: out and you're making assessments on players, I mean you're
Speaker 1: sending you basically send a message to the players right
Speaker 1: now that you are doing your job. This is your job,
Speaker 1: interview for next year's team this last half of the season,
Speaker 1: and who knows, you may you may establish that winning
Speaker 1: culture quicker than you expected. To and start racking up
Speaker 1: a couple of wins even with a backup quarterback the
Speaker 1: second half of the year in a week division. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and to express whatever since about trading something, you know,
Speaker 1: the only collateral they have that's worth anything to trade
Speaker 1: would be your draft picks. And I don't think you
Speaker 1: want to do that. Uh. You know, you're you're not
Speaker 1: going to trade to Marcus Lawrence. You'll take a hit
Speaker 1: on the salary cap that is absolutely huge. So you're
Speaker 1: not doing that. The same thing with Ezekiel Elliott. You're
Speaker 1: not doing that because of cap ramifications. And after that,
Speaker 1: who you're trading if you're gonna trade a player, because
Speaker 1: then you're gonna if you're trading somebody good enough. There's
Speaker 1: no more herschel Walker trades in this National Football League.
Speaker 1: Let's get that straight, a herschel Yeah, exactly, you know,
Speaker 1: and I had to kind of and I don't know
Speaker 1: if you agree with this, uh, Everson or not, but
Speaker 1: you know, the bottom line on that too was yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: he was an asset, right, but Jimmy didn't like the
Speaker 1: asset he I heard him say numerous times. Herschel Walker
Speaker 1: was a straight line runner. And you can't win with
Speaker 1: a straight line runner. I need somebody that that is
Speaker 1: a little bit elusive and is versatile catching the ball.
Speaker 1: He didn't like herschel Walker, you know, and everybody thinks,
Speaker 1: oh gosh, they gave up herschel Walker. Jimmy was just
Speaker 1: glad to do it because he knew the next draft
Speaker 1: he probably was going to end up drafting a first
Speaker 1: round running back. Although he was trying to to to
Speaker 1: UH draft Francis the linebacker from Baylor. UH and Cincinnati
Speaker 1: wouldn't give up on them. And then they said, okay,
Speaker 1: let's just trade back up and it'll take kem At
Speaker 1: Smith And you know that a whole situation was just
Speaker 1: that was the dumbest trade. But the Minneso of the
Speaker 1: Vikings had been known for doing that in the past,
Speaker 1: so that's something that was just beyond me. And boy,
Speaker 1: you talk about capitalizing off of that opportunity. That's that's
Speaker 1: three Super Bowl wins right there. Thank you, herschel Walker.
Speaker 1: That's what we can say about that. Yeah, no, absolutely,
Speaker 1: And you know why I was trying. I blanked out
Speaker 1: on I was gonna call him Mike Flynn. It was
Speaker 1: Mike Lynn, the GM at Minnesota that basically thought, oh,
Speaker 1: these guys want to get good in a hurry. They're
Speaker 1: gonna take all these players and not worry about the
Speaker 1: draft picks, when Jimmy and Jerry were thinking, no, we're
Speaker 1: getting draft picks. We don't care about those players. Hack
Speaker 1: Darren Nelson didn't even want to come here. He didn't
Speaker 1: show up, and they go, yeah, that's fine, we'll just
Speaker 1: take the comparable draft pick for him. That's okay. Well
Speaker 1: that was so crazy because even when they acquired herschel Walker,
Speaker 1: Danny Green didn't like him either, and he barely played
Speaker 1: as it was restricted to just a kick returner and
Speaker 1: barely got to be playing time at all. So you
Speaker 1: talk about not even capitalizing on what you had attained.
Speaker 1: That was really weird. But getting back to the high
Speaker 1: turnover as far as the coaches after is concerned. To me,
Speaker 1: that's the death Kneil. You know, when you start panicking
Speaker 1: and overreacting every year with your staff, you just turned
Speaker 1: into the New York Jets then, and that's not what
Speaker 1: you want. Too much turnover, no continuity. As Bill said,
Speaker 1: you can't establish a culture when the leadership keeps changing.
Speaker 1: So now not only do your players don't know if
Speaker 1: they're gonna be here or be gone the next day
Speaker 1: or year or whatever. You're gonna lose confidence in them,
Speaker 1: in them as a team. And that's not what you
Speaker 1: want here. Too much high turnover, that is not good
Speaker 1: for any organization. And you don't want the Cowboys to
Speaker 1: start taking on that monica at all. Then you start
Speaker 1: looking at the lower echelon of the teams like the Jets,
Speaker 1: and we don't want to be considered that, at least
Speaker 1: not consistently. And there's a great example of that coming
Speaker 1: to AT and T Stadium on Sunday afternoon, and that
Speaker 1: would be the unbeaten Pittsburgh Steelers of head coach Mike Tomlin,
Speaker 1: who has been at the helm of that club since
Speaker 1: two thousand and seven, and before that it was Bill
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Speaker 1: we continue on mix shots. We got seven or eight
Speaker 1: minutes left on this Tuesday show, and if you joined
Speaker 1: us late, Andy Dalton portedly headed to the reserve COVID
Speaker 1: nineteen list. We'll see if Ben Denucci continues as the
Speaker 1: quarterback making his second start against the unbeaten Steelers on
Speaker 1: Sunday afternoon, or perhaps Cooper Rush. They also the option
Speaker 1: to Garrett Gilbert. As we concluded our last segment, we're
Speaker 1: talking about continuity on a coaching staff and in an organization.
Speaker 1: And during the break I looked it up for the
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers coming in here on Sunday. They've had a
Speaker 1: grand total of three head coaches the last fifty two years,
Speaker 1: going all the way back to nineteen sixty nine when
Speaker 1: Chuck Noll took over, and for twenty three years. Chuck
Speaker 1: Noll was the head coach of the Steelers through nineteen
Speaker 1: ninety one, then Bill Cower for fifteen seasons from ninety
Speaker 1: two through six, and now Mike Tomlin is in his
Speaker 1: fourteenth season as the head coach of the Steelers. That's
Speaker 1: a pretty incredible run and that's how you do it.
Speaker 1: To have a consistent winner through the years. Well, in
Speaker 1: the seventies they won four. They played the Cowboys in
Speaker 1: ninety five and then they won well, they won a
Speaker 1: couple and then lost one to Mike McCarthy and the
Speaker 1: Packers right under Kawer and then Tomlin if I got
Speaker 1: that right, So Tomlin has won just one Super Bowl? Right? Okay?
Speaker 1: So Tomlin? Actually yeah? And Tomlin won in eight the
Speaker 1: O eight season and then lost to the Packers in
Speaker 1: the twenty ten season. Kwer lost to the Cowboys in
Speaker 1: ninety five and one in oh five, and then Noel
Speaker 1: of course back in the seventies, and uh won four
Speaker 1: and um Steelers come in here at eleven and oh
Speaker 1: and the last time they were seven and oz was
Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy eight. WHOA wow, that's pretty good. I
Speaker 1: hated nineteen seventy eight. I was watching the Cowboys lose
Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl while I was at Grambling State University.
Speaker 1: I was the only one on the football team that
Speaker 1: loved the Cowboys. And when we got our butts kid,
Speaker 1: I locked myself in the room and they beat on
Speaker 1: my door all night waiting for me to come out
Speaker 1: and take my medicine. I would not do it. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'll on those lines. Then let me ask you this.
Speaker 1: Do you remember when you were watching the final regular
Speaker 1: season game of nineteen seventy nine against Washington when Starbuck
Speaker 1: led the comeback in the touchdown pass to Tony Hill
Speaker 1: to win that game Texas Stadium over Lamar Paris. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Lamar Paris was the defensive back number twenty four. Yes,
Speaker 1: do you remember you remember where you were when you
Speaker 1: were watching that game? I was at home, at home.
Speaker 1: Remember your reaction, department, Do you remember your reaction when
Speaker 1: it happened? That was the best comeback ever. I didn't
Speaker 1: think we had a chance. You know you're talking to
Speaker 1: the comeback. I think the Cowboys comebacks all are directed
Speaker 1: for me. I've always thought that the Hail Mary was
Speaker 1: on my sixteenth birthday, all right, So anytime the Cowboys
Speaker 1: make a comeback, I think that's directly because they know
Speaker 1: I'm overa dying and for them so hard. That's all right?
Speaker 1: Was the kid. Here's the reason that I brought all
Speaker 1: that up because I was in college. It was in
Speaker 1: actually at the frat house watching the Cowboys come back
Speaker 1: and beat Washington, and I don't you know, the cold,
Speaker 1: you could have an adult beverage then at starting at
Speaker 1: age eighteen. I'm not saying I had any adult beverages
Speaker 1: in me, although I was above the age of eighteen.
Speaker 1: But when when Tony Hill caught that pass, I went
Speaker 1: running out of that frat house. It was like an
Speaker 1: icy day in Norman, Oklahoma, and I sprained my ankle.
Speaker 1: I like like there was a hole in the front
Speaker 1: yard and I sprained my ankle. Uh, cheering on the
Speaker 1: cowboys in college. But you didn't feel anything, because that's try.
Speaker 1: That's right, that's right. I was medicating. Have we lost Mickey?
Speaker 1: I'm here. Don't anything happened that we needed to report.
Speaker 1: Mickey wasn't a fan Bill. Mickey wasn't trying Bill, That's
Speaker 1: what it was. Yeah, Yeah, he just really relate to
Speaker 1: that moment as I tried. That was one of the
Speaker 1: great moments in my college life. When when I was
Speaker 1: over Ron Spray's house all the time, he has that
Speaker 1: picture of Roger jumping in his arms. Of course he's
Speaker 1: holding them up. Ron and Roger they always uh as
Speaker 1: one of the both of their favorite pictures. So Ron
Speaker 1: has that blown up at his house. So Mickey, what
Speaker 1: are you studying. I was just trying to see if
Speaker 1: there was any last minute trades going down to keep
Speaker 1: keep talking about Quinnon Williams and I thought maybe something happened,
Speaker 1: But I don't see anything that went on with him yet. So, uh,
Speaker 1: we're about what forty five minutes from the trade deadline
Speaker 1: right now when the trade area expires, So we'll see
Speaker 1: what happens there. Hey, here's one thing, keep an eye
Speaker 1: on um. And you know when the Cowboys took the safety,
Speaker 1: they had LP snapped the deep the snap to Chris
Speaker 1: Jones over his head and basically on purpose. You know.
Speaker 1: Before that happened, you know, Chris Jones ended up on
Speaker 1: the injury list on it was either Thursday or Friday.
Speaker 1: He was limited did with an abdomen injury. And I
Speaker 1: was wondering, and this is what bothered him last year
Speaker 1: and he didn't have surgery and it's cropped up again.
Speaker 1: And when he was standing, you know, five yards deep
Speaker 1: in the end zone and they were gonna punt there,
Speaker 1: I'm going, well, this is a disaster because they're gonna
Speaker 1: get the ball at about the thirty five or forty
Speaker 1: yard line and you're gonna give them basically a field goal,
Speaker 1: maybe a touchdown. So I think part of their decision,
Speaker 1: I know what they were trying to do because they
Speaker 1: were thinking, Okay, we can on site kick, get the
Speaker 1: ball back, we've got to score twice. But I think
Speaker 1: the other thing in their mind was, well, I don't
Speaker 1: know how well our punter's kicking today and with the
Speaker 1: wind blow, and we may be in trouble. Well, all
Speaker 1: I know is Hunter the punter, Hunter miss Wander. I
Speaker 1: found out that not only is he a punter, but
Speaker 1: he's a kicker and he can kick off two he
Speaker 1: can do all three things. Now can he hold? Because
Speaker 1: if you change punters, if Chris Jones is actually injured,
Speaker 1: can this guy hold? Because Chris Jones is really good
Speaker 1: at holding. As a matter of fact, he should have
Speaker 1: got credit for part of that win against the Giants
Speaker 1: with the game winning field goal because for once, maybe
Speaker 1: in fifteen years, LP didn't have a perfect snap and
Speaker 1: he had to short hop it into his body, put
Speaker 1: it down and spin it. Uh, and he's really good
Speaker 1: at that. So I don't know if this Niswander guy,
Speaker 1: can he can stop? Or you can keep Maybe you
Speaker 1: keep him, maybe you can keep him on as the
Speaker 1: holder and let somebody else on the cons They have
Speaker 1: two punders, have three kids position on the rust six quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: We can't have three pounders tomorrow right right, And can't
Speaker 1: one of those six quarterbacks hold I mean, don't have
Speaker 1: any of them. Hasn't have any of them done it, right,
Speaker 1: So just keep an eye on that one. And the
Speaker 1: other surprise in the game on Sunday was that they
Speaker 1: didn't activate a Woozier off injured reserve. And it sounded
Speaker 1: like the beginning of the week that he was ready
Speaker 1: to go. It looked like in practice, you know what.
Speaker 1: We got to see he was moving around well. And
Speaker 1: then Mike finally answered the question why they didn't. He
Speaker 1: said he wasn't quite ready, but Jerry said today that
Speaker 1: they should have him back. So we'll see if a
Speaker 1: Woozier is ready to go off of IR. But remember
Speaker 1: they started his twenty one day deal and this would
Speaker 1: be the second week of him practicing, so we'll see
Speaker 1: where that one goes, right. But here's the other part
Speaker 1: of that. They got a bye week next week, and
Speaker 1: so that they held him out this week and then
Speaker 1: it gives him an extra couple of weeks and so
Speaker 1: that'll probably enter into the wonder qua. Now, I wonder
Speaker 1: if the twenty one days count the seven days of
Speaker 1: you would have to activate him though during the bye week,
Speaker 1: because that he didn't have to play. I didn't have
Speaker 1: a player, right, Yeah, so we'll see where that one is.
Speaker 1: But that's worth keeping an eye on because they basically
Speaker 1: played that game with four corners on Sunday. All right, Well,
Speaker 1: that does it for mix shots, and it's gonna be interesting.
Speaker 1: Maybe we will know by one thirty on Wednesday afternoon.
Speaker 1: Well maybe I was gonna say, maybe we will know
Speaker 1: by one thirty on Wednesday afternoon who the starting quarterback
Speaker 1: is of the Cowboys. And we might even know by
Speaker 1: one thirty on Wednesday afternoon who the next president of
Speaker 1: the United States is. All right, which doesn't happen first? Oh,
Speaker 1: we're out of time. We're out of time here on
Speaker 1: mix shots. We can't go down that road. All right,
Speaker 1: we'll see you tomorrow here on mix Shots, Go Cowboys.
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