Speaker 1: Are you leaving? I you wanna way back home?
Speaker 2: Either way, we want to be there.
Speaker 1: Doesn't matter how much baggage you claim, and give us
Speaker 1: time and a termino and Gabe aid, we want to
Speaker 1: send you off insta. We wanna welcome you back home.
Speaker 1: Tell us all about it.
Speaker 2: We scared her? Was it fine?
Speaker 3: Malborn?
Speaker 2: Do you need to ride? Do you need to ride?
Speaker 4: Ride?
Speaker 5: Do you need.
Speaker 4: With Karen and Chris welcome to Do you need a ride?
Speaker 4: This is Chris Fairbanks.
Speaker 2: And this is Karen kill Karen, I.
Speaker 4: Don't know why I said Banks.
Speaker 3: We've been watching what we do in the Shadows. That's
Speaker 3: Matt Barry talks like that.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I'm practicing my comedic vampire accents just for Halloween. Yeah,
Speaker 4: putting an umlot every over every vowel. Nice.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Would you do today, Karen?
Speaker 3: Well, I've been doing some work, you know, working at
Speaker 3: my job. But just now I went in right before
Speaker 3: we started recording. I went in to gather up all
Speaker 3: my beverages because you know, I need several. Yeah, And
Speaker 3: while that was happening, the male person came I was
Speaker 3: going to say mail lady, but it sounds contradictory. The
Speaker 3: mail person came and got out of her truck and
Speaker 3: walked up to the front door to deliver something which
Speaker 3: almost never happens, right.
Speaker 2: It's usually ups.
Speaker 3: Gives you a bigger package the mails for your mailbox.
Speaker 3: But I guess this got mailed, but it was too
Speaker 3: big to fit in the mailbox. And I didn't realize
Speaker 3: until she waved to me that I was just standing
Speaker 3: in my kitchen window staring at her, like watching her
Speaker 3: go eating eating like cottage cheese, and just staring at
Speaker 3: her like I like she couldn't see me, and she
Speaker 3: absolutely could see me, and so she kind of was
Speaker 3: like hello, because I was like a creep just staring.
Speaker 4: At that kind of a look did you have on
Speaker 4: your face?
Speaker 2: Do you recall well, knowing me, it was probably.
Speaker 3: A look of consternation or you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: like a hard stare that I wasn't really aware of.
Speaker 3: So then I opened my kitchen windows like thank you,
Speaker 3: so that she didn't think I was a complete Frankenstein,
Speaker 3: because it was really strange. It was just kind of
Speaker 3: like watching or walk up and I just forgot people
Speaker 3: could see me, and happened was.
Speaker 4: The delivery a giant box of watermelon. You said it's
Speaker 4: a race against time.
Speaker 3: I accidentally bought a container of watermelon, like a just
Speaker 3: almost like you know, at my grocery store, they have
Speaker 3: obviously different sides of pre cut fruit, and I got
Speaker 3: the one that actually is like almost casserole dish sized, okay,
Speaker 3: because I had friends coming over, so I was like, oh,
Speaker 3: watermelon's a nice kind of treat or something we never
Speaker 3: even I left it in the refrigerator forgot to open it,
Speaker 3: and now I have what seems to be the equivalent
Speaker 3: of two pounds of watermelons to eat.
Speaker 4: It's funny because and maybe it's because I have pumpkin
Speaker 4: fever at being fall and coming up on Thanksgiving. I'm
Speaker 4: just gonna keep mind. And when you said container of watermelon,
Speaker 4: I really was thinking of like a palette, and I
Speaker 4: was thinking of full watermelon multiple and that you were
Speaker 4: eating them like because you didn't want them.
Speaker 3: To go back, Like a palette of full watermelons. That
Speaker 3: would be quite an investment.
Speaker 4: And one I don't understand. I mean I don't. I'm
Speaker 4: not anti watermelon, but I've heard that it's pretty much
Speaker 4: like you're drinking water. There's really not a lot of
Speaker 4: added correct me if I'm wrong. I know our guest today,
Speaker 4: Dave is a dietitian.
Speaker 2: Dave knows. Yeah, we will have to go to the as.
Speaker 4: I always confuse that with music history anyway. I similar
Speaker 4: I think watermelons kind of just like useless really and
Speaker 4: it's well.
Speaker 3: There's I think watermelon has at least vitamin C in it. Oh,
Speaker 3: it has something it's good for. We're going to have
Speaker 3: to ask our guests today. Let's just pull them into this.
Speaker 4: I'm very excited about today's cast oftentimes, and I think
Speaker 4: I give myself a hard time. Sometimes I get very
Speaker 4: nervous for our podcast, but that's because we do it.
Speaker 4: Lucy Goosey, I did you know any if you don't
Speaker 4: know someone, it's hard to the pressure of having a
Speaker 4: conversation with a new person while also being as funny
Speaker 4: as you and I consistently are without fail. Yeah, it's
Speaker 4: it is kind of a lot of pressure. I was
Speaker 4: I did podcast recently and there was a quiz involved,
Speaker 4: and you know, I love trivia, and it was such
Speaker 4: a weight off my shoulders. What also is a weight
Speaker 4: off my shoulders? Is when we have someone like today's
Speaker 4: guest who's a friend and I feel comfortable in person
Speaker 4: and know them y and as well as podcasting, so
Speaker 4: a weight is off my shoulders. This is going to
Speaker 4: be an easy, fun episode. I'm just warning you, Karen,
Speaker 4: kick your.
Speaker 3: Feet up, Chris, because our guest today has played clubs
Speaker 3: and colleges all over the country. You might know him
Speaker 3: from his podcast on the Exactly Right Media channel entitled
Speaker 3: Waiting for Impact, one of the greatest limited series that
Speaker 3: we have ever produced here at the Network, but you
Speaker 3: might also know him from Esquire magazine or his days
Speaker 3: as a VJ. Please welcome the illustrious David Holmes.
Speaker 5: Karen, Chris, Hi, Hi, Hi. I was gonna say welcome.
Speaker 5: That wasn't right, and then I got and then then
Speaker 5: I panicked. I said, but yeah, I do want you
Speaker 5: to another that I feel very comfortable with the both
Speaker 5: of you two. I nothing that I've done so far
Speaker 5: would back that up, but it's true. So I'm very
Speaker 5: happy to you.
Speaker 2: It'll come in the future.
Speaker 5: I think it will.
Speaker 4: You've backed that up by being one of the only
Speaker 4: Christmas parties I get invited to as your party. Oh wow,
Speaker 4: there's that's a hell of a lot of backup right there.
Speaker 4: You think I'm brushing off Christmas invites willing left and right, Nelly.
Speaker 5: And it's a good party.
Speaker 2: It is, Yes, it is a great one.
Speaker 5: We just reserved our bartender. Oh you got to.
Speaker 4: Get on it early.
Speaker 5: You have to.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I want these last minute slouches that
Speaker 4: don't know what seagram Seltzer looks like.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know. Actually last year our bartender brought like
Speaker 5: an intern and I remember somebody. So do you do
Speaker 5: you remember this?
Speaker 4: No? I actually do, yes, Okay, So.
Speaker 5: Was somebody who I guess was like, you know, wanted
Speaker 5: to have some experience because he was going to maybe
Speaker 5: try and be like a holiday bartender or whatever. And
Speaker 5: we we were the first Saturday of December. We have
Speaker 5: I've been on that date since the nineteen nineties. Nobody,
Speaker 5: nobody touched it so so it's early in the in
Speaker 5: the season. But anyway, he brought someone along and that
Speaker 5: person was there and like someone I don't remember who
Speaker 5: it was, but somebody like ordered a margarita and this
Speaker 5: guy was like um and just like man gave him
Speaker 5: like a glass of rum. Wow, like it just it
Speaker 5: was like he wasn't even like how do I make that,
Speaker 5: or like, you know, whispering to the guy like yesterday,
Speaker 5: I do now or whatever. It was just like I
Speaker 5: think this is a margarita.
Speaker 2: And it was here's the solution, like a.
Speaker 5: Full glass of just dark rum.
Speaker 4: That's hilarious. Well where I come from, yeah, especially if
Speaker 4: you're in like an intern position where it is safe
Speaker 4: to ask us questions.
Speaker 5: Why not it's expected really to ask those questions.
Speaker 3: But maybe the practice he was really looking for, which
Speaker 3: is what he was getting, is how are you as
Speaker 3: a person going to handle these intensely high pressure margarita
Speaker 3: situations where yeah, do you remember who the person was who.
Speaker 4: Ordered to remember?
Speaker 5: I can't remember who it was.
Speaker 3: I'd love to know, just to analyze their personality of
Speaker 3: was there an element of pressure?
Speaker 4: Was there?
Speaker 2: Were they especially beautiful?
Speaker 3: Was something happening where this person like just got blitzed
Speaker 3: out and couldn't think logically?
Speaker 5: I don't know, Or was it just like a super
Speaker 5: low pressure like prank show kind of a vibe. Was
Speaker 5: it like impractical jokers but also like not particularly important jokers?
Speaker 5: You know, just like here I got this is wrong
Speaker 5: in a way that's weird. More than funny.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it explains the cameraman wearing scuba gear in your pool.
Speaker 4: It's hard to find, Yes, it's hard to find a
Speaker 4: place to hide those guys sometimes.
Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, it's coming up, just over a month
Speaker 5: away already.
Speaker 4: Now that I know it's on the first, I've cleared
Speaker 4: my schedule.
Speaker 5: It's not the first, the first Saturday.
Speaker 4: The first Saturday, Yes, the first.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's how you do it.
Speaker 4: I've cleared the whole week. It's when I'm talking. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I have to prepare, pick out a sweater, all that stuff. Good,
Speaker 4: I'll finally bring a gift this time.
Speaker 5: He's known for his sweaters. I don't think you need
Speaker 5: to bring a gift.
Speaker 4: Well, something to dip.
Speaker 5: Okay, you can bring.
Speaker 3: As they say in my family, you don't. You don't
Speaker 3: enter someone's house with both arms hanging.
Speaker 4: Oh yes, that's a good way of so you should
Speaker 4: come in like upset with them crossed. Is that an option?
Speaker 3: It's fun to walk with your arms, especially into socials,
Speaker 3: and I spent the entire nineties doing the equivalent of that.
Speaker 3: Just vibes wise are crossed arms anywhere you went.
Speaker 5: But it is just a heavy foot m h oh. Boy,
Speaker 5: I was just at a health spot really well. Yeah,
Speaker 5: So because of Esquire, I uh, sometimes like we're doing
Speaker 5: like travel as a category is like you know, the
Speaker 5: posts on the website do well and you know, and
Speaker 5: they advertise in print and whatever. So it's like a
Speaker 5: growing especially now, it's a growing kind of segment. And
Speaker 5: so like pr people for hotels and things like that
Speaker 5: will sometimes hit me up and say, like, there's a
Speaker 5: health spot outside of San Diego. Do you want to
Speaker 5: go spend three days there? And I said yes, and
Speaker 5: it's you know, and I might you know, I might
Speaker 5: include it in a traveled roundup that we do, or
Speaker 5: I might do a piece whatever. I like, I can't
Speaker 5: promise that, but I can promise that I'll pitch something
Speaker 5: and whatever. So they offered three days in this health
Speaker 5: spot and it was for two. It's gonna be me
Speaker 5: and Ben, but then he ended up having to work,
Speaker 5: so it was just me and there were like thirty
Speaker 5: or so people there. Everyone was on like the three
Speaker 5: day program and it was all like like gals weekends, sure,
Speaker 5: and like a couple mother daughter pairs and then like
Speaker 5: a couple or two and me, and it was all
Speaker 5: like there were million activities all day long, and the
Speaker 5: meals were all like portion controlled, you know, you have
Speaker 5: like a caloric allowance and whatever, and like there was
Speaker 5: wine that you could buy by the bottle, but it
Speaker 5: was sort of deemphasized and it was nice, but it
Speaker 5: was a strange few days where I was almost immediately hungry.
Speaker 4: Have you ever done something like that before?
Speaker 5: No, never done anything like that before?
Speaker 4: Yeah, neither did I. And then they come in and
Speaker 4: they're whipping you with birch branches and.
Speaker 5: Oh no, No, there wasn't anything like that, luckily, but
Speaker 5: there were there were Like the days started with a hike.
Speaker 5: There was like sure, you know, it was on a
Speaker 5: huge plot of land outside of San Diego, and so
Speaker 5: every morning there was a different hike, Like the first
Speaker 5: one was fully four miles. I like closed my activity
Speaker 5: ring at eight, and uh, I was hustling because the
Speaker 5: conversation behind me was about how woke everything has been.
Speaker 4: That'll make you run?
Speaker 5: If that'll make you fucking really hoof it?
Speaker 3: What if they did it on purpose to keep your
Speaker 3: face up, They might have.
Speaker 2: Drow some magaheads trail Literally it.
Speaker 5: Was the person behind well, it was a couple, and
Speaker 5: then like a woman who was in one of the
Speaker 5: gal's weekend groups, and she was talking about how she
Speaker 5: just moved to Nashville and I love it. Nobody asked
Speaker 5: you what your politics are? Nobody, no one has ever
Speaker 5: been asked what their politics are anywhere in the world,
Speaker 5: anywhere in the world. And they were also like, do you
Speaker 5: ever read Barry Weisse?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 5: I love her. So it was just like run wow. Yeah.
Speaker 5: So anyway, it was that, and then there was like,
Speaker 5: you know, yoga and breath work and spin classes and
Speaker 5: make a bracelet and craft time. I did that.
Speaker 4: This sounds like a lot of work. I thought, you
Speaker 4: just get hampered. And they massage.
Speaker 5: There were also over the three days like five spa treatments,
Speaker 5: so a couple of massages, a facial, a leg rejuvenation.
Speaker 4: It was.
Speaker 5: It was pretty ridiculous.
Speaker 2: I like the idea.
Speaker 3: The idea of that is like someone's holding up Dave's
Speaker 3: leg and like shaving it for waxing it for him
Speaker 3: or something like these are gonna be totally different legs.
Speaker 5: It was actually even weirder. It was like a power stander,
Speaker 5: but like with it with like a like a fleece
Speaker 5: kind of a cover on it. Oh. Like a car
Speaker 5: waxer almost. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Really they buffed your legs.
Speaker 5: They buffed my legs like the Wizard exactly like that exactly. Yeah,
Speaker 5: it was, you know whatever. It was nice. Like I
Speaker 5: don't I don't get massages even like I get nervous
Speaker 5: during a massage about the time that I'm wasting, the
Speaker 5: money that I'm spending and all that.
Speaker 2: Kind of thing.
Speaker 5: So so this was a good This was good.
Speaker 2: So this was like a health spa.
Speaker 5: It's like a proper health spot.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like you were supposed to go there and maybe
Speaker 3: lose little wait if you were doing it right.
Speaker 5: There were optional weigh ins and way outs and whatever.
Speaker 5: I opted against them. Yeah, it was you know, it was.
Speaker 5: It was nice. And you could also like just kind
Speaker 5: of like fuck off and hang out by the pool
Speaker 5: all day if you wanted to. I was like, I
Speaker 5: might as well take advantage of some stuff. There was
Speaker 5: like a couple who was celebrating their fourth anniversary and
Speaker 5: they were like the youngest and like coolest looking. So
Speaker 5: I kept like having meals with them to a point
Speaker 5: where I was just like, I feel I am ruining
Speaker 5: your weekend. Like I'm I'm the person who's just like
Speaker 5: always at your table and you would rather be alone.
Speaker 5: So I like every meal, I eate, I ate very quickly.
Speaker 5: But yeah, so but I'm healthy. I feel very healthy.
Speaker 5: Good having a green juice.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Wow. And they had kraft time, they had you
Speaker 4: make bracelets, they had craft time.
Speaker 5: There were like five every hour, there were like five
Speaker 5: different choices of things that you could do. And oh,
Speaker 5: there's pickleball. If finally played pickleball, do.
Speaker 2: You want to start playing pickleball? I love it.
Speaker 5: Yeah. No, I'm going to the Pickleball Exchange and Sino
Speaker 5: later this week maybe tomorrow afternoon, uh, to pick out
Speaker 5: a racket.
Speaker 4: I have never heard an ill word about pickleball.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: In my opinion, pickleball is somebody want. People love to
Speaker 3: play tennis, but it's too hard and it's too detailed
Speaker 3: and you literally have to have like a coach. There
Speaker 3: should be an easier way. And then they just figured
Speaker 3: it out and did it and it is so fun.
Speaker 5: It's really fun and it's a good workout.
Speaker 4: Yes, it is. Yeah, you know because somewhere you're running
Speaker 4: back and forth and you're not even conscious of it, like.
Speaker 5: You're short sprints, very short sprints in the case. But yeah,
Speaker 5: I really, I really enjoyed it. I really enjoyed it
Speaker 5: a very low pressure way to learn what it was.
Speaker 5: I will say the scoring was like they were telling
Speaker 5: me about a dream that they had. It's just like
Speaker 5: the scoring is so weird and complicated, and by the
Speaker 5: end of it it sort of began to a little
Speaker 5: bit makes sense.
Speaker 4: Is it as complicated because tennis the love as tennis?
Speaker 4: It is tennis?
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's weird. This is this is slightly weirder because
Speaker 5: you have to like you have to say the score
Speaker 5: before you serve. Yeah, and you and the other person
Speaker 5: are serving, but whoever's on the right is one. It's
Speaker 5: except for the first time because that time you just
Speaker 5: say start instead of one. It's it's all.
Speaker 4: Very good time. Whether it's a board game or the
Speaker 4: rules to a physical game, there's something that is wrong.
Speaker 4: I get this anxiety when's right when someone starts explaining
Speaker 4: the rules that I just I'm like, oh, I wonder
Speaker 4: what it would be like if I didn't retain any
Speaker 4: of this information and I just scared at someone's mouth
Speaker 4: while they were talking and didn't really listen. I don't
Speaker 4: know why I do that to myself, but yeah, it's like, uh,
Speaker 4: just a little reminder of what it feels like to
Speaker 4: be dumb. I think that's, yeah, a childhood fear of like,
Speaker 4: am I not smart? And I do it every time
Speaker 4: if someone's oh, you want to play a game, No,
Speaker 4: because I don't want to learn about it, because then
Speaker 4: you're going to judge me because I will retain it.
Speaker 4: I don't know what it is about me.
Speaker 5: It's no, it's it's impossible, and you don't want to
Speaker 5: like slow everyone else down by being like could you
Speaker 5: repeat that? Yeah or whatever? So yeah, so I just
Speaker 5: sort of have somebody else like do it for me
Speaker 5: until I get it. Yeah, you know, like just tell
Speaker 5: me what to say.
Speaker 3: The irony of that point is that it's like the
Speaker 3: inverse of that idea for tennis. So it's like if
Speaker 3: you've always wanted to play tennis but you're you don't
Speaker 3: know how to grip the racket correctly or whatever, it's like,
Speaker 3: suddenly you're great at tennis. Yes, because it's a whiffle
Speaker 3: ball and a different and basically an oversized ping pong paddle,
Speaker 3: but it's still plays like tennis, but it's not as
Speaker 3: hard as fast or as specific.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So it's like very thrilling.
Speaker 3: I've taken tennis lessons before and then just been like
Speaker 3: I always hold the racket like it's a softball and
Speaker 3: try to hit it like it's softball, and they're like, no, no, no,
Speaker 3: it's you have to tilt it or whatever. And pickleball
Speaker 3: it's like softballized tennis in a whiffle ball format.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's great, and it seems to me, although I'm
Speaker 5: sure I'm wrong, it seems to me like it's more
Speaker 5: difficult to take so seriously that you ruin everyone's day. Yeah,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. Like I could see a
Speaker 5: few of the people who were there. I could see
Speaker 5: them getting a little like competitive and angry at themselves
Speaker 5: and whatever, which is hilarious in the in the context
Speaker 5: of pickleball. Yeah, yeah, it's it's it's silly. So like
Speaker 5: I'm sure there are people who take it away too seriously,
Speaker 5: but like, yes, I would imagine that there are fewer
Speaker 5: of them in this particular sport.
Speaker 3: Dave, I will absolutely buy a pickleball. I'll get the
Speaker 3: equipment and meet you in the morning and play.
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 5: Great, great, Okay, I like several of my friends have
Speaker 5: gotten into it, and so we can, Yeah, we can
Speaker 5: get a force them together and.
Speaker 4: Get some white shorts. You gotta get white shorts.
Speaker 5: Short white shorts, by the way, Oh absolutely, I am
Speaker 5: all about the the Paul mescal normal people. Short shorts. Yeah,
Speaker 5: I've got I've gotten very into like I'm uh like
Speaker 5: Tom Berenger and I are going for a jog in
Speaker 5: the big chill like very short shorts.
Speaker 4: Yeah they are. They are coming back. It's it's being
Speaker 4: enforced now. You can no longer even go mid thigh anymore.
Speaker 5: It has to be it's got to be.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they got to be Corduroy.
Speaker 5: It's got to be Clinton and Gore on the campaign
Speaker 5: trail going for a little little morning jog.
Speaker 4: I don't know why I'm not. I do know why
Speaker 4: I have tiny legs. I am cathless. Cathless, I am cathless.
Speaker 4: I've done everything I can. Well, not lately, but in
Speaker 4: the past I've dabbled with calf lifting. Calf lifting they
Speaker 4: call it, but nothing happens. That's why I don't wear schwarts.
Speaker 4: If I look down, and let's say I was it
Speaker 4: was my first day playing pickleball, and I look down
Speaker 4: and I see my little legs. All confidence escapes me
Speaker 4: out right out my kneecaps.
Speaker 5: Do you do a full workout pant?
Speaker 4: I wear pants all the time, even golfing. I can't.
Speaker 4: Anytime I'm looking down, if it's up, if i'm bird watching,
Speaker 4: all wear short because I'm not going to look down
Speaker 4: at my damn legs.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I've never seen any shorts, now that you mention it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, no one has. Man, I've taken us down
Speaker 4: a dead end conversation.
Speaker 2: You're just making statements about your legs. We don't know
Speaker 2: what to say.
Speaker 3: If we agree with you, it's insulting exact, we argue.
Speaker 4: We're I guess I'm sort of phishing for a What
Speaker 4: are you talking about, Chris legs?
Speaker 2: We've never seen your legs.
Speaker 5: We haven't ever actually seen your legs.
Speaker 4: That's my point.
Speaker 2: See, I told you.
Speaker 3: See wait, I'm I'm sorry because I had to put
Speaker 3: the dogs out.
Speaker 2: Were you talking about that?
Speaker 3: Because you're assuming if we play pickleball we have to
Speaker 3: wear shorts.
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, I'm saying that that's what I will wear
Speaker 5: is very short shorts. Obscenely short shorts.
Speaker 2: Oh that's the Paul messcal part.
Speaker 4: That's you got to go five inchines same now seven maybe. Yeah,
Speaker 4: you go to any good short website and it's going
Speaker 4: to be five or seven inch in seam. I used
Speaker 4: to be a mid knee guy, but those days are over.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's out, that's way out.
Speaker 3: We played when I was in Hawaii, so it was
Speaker 3: very humid, and we all were wearing our bathing suits
Speaker 3: underneath the clothes we were wearing because we were we
Speaker 3: were basically going to play and then jump into the pool,
Speaker 3: which was right there. I was sweating so much by
Speaker 3: the end of it. I was just like, this is
Speaker 3: so embarrassing and weird, because I thought it was just
Speaker 3: gonna It's like there's a whiffle When a whiffleball is involved,
Speaker 3: you don't think you're going to break a sweat much
Speaker 3: less be like pouring sweat. But that's how truly good
Speaker 3: of a workout it is. Yeah, Is that you literally
Speaker 3: are like pouring sweat at the.
Speaker 4: End of it.
Speaker 5: Yeah. And it's never like I never felt like I
Speaker 5: gotta sit down, you know, It's somewhere in between, like
Speaker 5: it's definitely strenuous, but not so much so that you
Speaker 5: like that you're rung out afterwards, but you definitely, Like
Speaker 5: you're do you sweat you burned? Yes, you burn calories?
Speaker 4: Do you have to go to a facility? Can you just?
Speaker 4: Where do you play pickleball? Just tennis courts, okay, already
Speaker 4: existing because the world when I was young, a racquetball
Speaker 4: was a huge thing, and there was some giant facilities
Speaker 4: and then for the last they're all closing now. But
Speaker 4: even in my hometown there was just these giant buildings
Speaker 4: with glass partition. And then I really felt bad for oh,
Speaker 4: for instance, the courthouse and now it's a megachurch. See
Speaker 4: that's what happens. People. You jump into these sports and
Speaker 4: then they go extinct. I just I'm glad that pickleball
Speaker 4: you can just do it in a field if you want.
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, I mean okay, So I guess tennis courts
Speaker 5: are being turned into pickleball courts because the lines are
Speaker 5: slightly different. Oh yeah, it's slightly different. So I was
Speaker 5: just reading an article about how like the tennis community
Speaker 5: is furious.
Speaker 2: Oh course they are, because they already were though. That's
Speaker 2: the thing about the tennis community.
Speaker 5: Yeah, full of people with no sense of humor.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, it's just it's very elitist. It's just like, sorry,
Speaker 3: you can't pretend aside from like what the Williams sisters
Speaker 3: did for tennis needed to happen to tennis because it
Speaker 3: was literally a one percenter sport pastime.
Speaker 4: Yeah right, Golf the thing I do all the time
Speaker 4: and feel bad about. Yeah, but also a sport that
Speaker 4: has changed. We'll talk about needing a facility. Every time
Speaker 4: I do it, I feel guilty, like, oh, look at
Speaker 4: this giant waste of water. Well, yeah, gigantic. I'm addicted
Speaker 4: and I'm enjoying myself. But if you asked me three
Speaker 4: years ago what I thought of golf, I would only
Speaker 4: speak out in furious anger, like John McEnroe, who I
Speaker 4: know is a tennis player, not a yes yes.
Speaker 2: But also the fact that they're changing tennis courts in.
Speaker 3: To pickleball courts just it speaks to the popularity because
Speaker 3: it's not that different. We were using a tennis court
Speaker 3: and it was essentially just it's the kind of like
Speaker 3: inside doubles lines and you had to cut we had
Speaker 3: to put down other rackets to represent the kitchen part,
Speaker 3: but it was very workable. It's you know, it just
Speaker 3: seems like it makes more sense because more people can
Speaker 3: play pickleball than can play tennis.
Speaker 5: Thank you. A tennis person quoted in this article said
Speaker 5: that she didn't understand the popularity of pickleball, and then
Speaker 5: she watched it and she was like, oh, it's for
Speaker 5: people who want to play tennis but aren't athletes. And
Speaker 5: it was like, yeah, that's exactly what it is. And
Speaker 5: I know you think that that's like a burn, but like, no,
Speaker 5: it isn't. We know that about ourselves and that's why fun.
Speaker 3: And many of them are like older people who used
Speaker 3: to play tennis and can't anymore. Yes, yeah, and then.
Speaker 2: The people who like I could, but it's like I.
Speaker 3: Truly don't understand the angle that you're supposed to hold
Speaker 3: the racket at and you have to be not just
Speaker 3: regular athletic, but tennis is insanely boring unless you are
Speaker 3: like a tennis like a pro level player. It's like
Speaker 3: you can't be mediocre and play tennis. It's a waste
Speaker 3: of time, like just hitting the ned over and over whatever,
Speaker 3: like having taken it in I took it as a
Speaker 3: class in college because I wanted to play it and
Speaker 3: I thought it would be such a good activity to
Speaker 3: know how to play and then I was just like,
Speaker 3: this sucks.
Speaker 2: It's just like not fun.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it is difficult.
Speaker 5: We so from like freshman to senior year. Just before
Speaker 5: senior year of high school, my family moved to a
Speaker 5: house that had a tennis court in the backyard. And
Speaker 5: it sounds like we lived in some kind of crazy mansion.
Speaker 5: It was not, but for whatever reason, like the people
Speaker 5: who lived in this house built the tennis court in
Speaker 5: the backyard, and and also it was like not a
Speaker 5: good house for our family at all, which is why
Speaker 5: we only lived there for like three years. So I
Speaker 5: don't really understand why we did, but we did. And
Speaker 5: I think my I think my mother's thought was like, oh,
Speaker 5: we'll all start playing tennis because it's right there, and
Speaker 5: then she like tore a ligament in her knee immediately. Yeah,
Speaker 5: my brothers went off to college. I was like, I
Speaker 5: don't really feel like it, and so it just really
Speaker 5: sat like years went by when we just did not
Speaker 5: go out there with a racket at all, because why
Speaker 5: would you, Like, you know, hitting against a garage door
Speaker 5: is one thing that's kind of fun. It will come
Speaker 5: back and it's fun.
Speaker 4: I do like doing that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's fun. But like in a tennis court unless
Speaker 5: you can get somebody to come and play with you,
Speaker 5: which when you're like sixteen and don't play tennis is hard.
Speaker 5: So yeah, anyway, it was a huge waste and we nothing.
Speaker 4: Nothing's lonelier than that single guy in the tennis for
Speaker 4: trying to hit to himself. The loneliness of the single
Speaker 4: tennis player push an empty swing.
Speaker 2: Dave, do you know what you're going to be for
Speaker 2: Halloween this year?
Speaker 5: Okay, here's here's let me. I'm gonna I'm gonna workshop this.
Speaker 3: Okay, this is the place. This is You have no idea,
Speaker 3: but this is the place.
Speaker 2: To workshop this.
Speaker 5: First of all, I hate dressing up. Same but okay,
Speaker 5: do you remember in the seventies when if you wanted
Speaker 5: to be C three po and your parents were not
Speaker 5: going to help you make like a proper bespoke C
Speaker 5: three po outfit, what you did was you went to
Speaker 5: the drug store and there was a box that costs
Speaker 5: like two dollars and it had a C three po mask, right, yeah,
Speaker 5: and so that that would be like gold and very
Speaker 5: very sharp plastic that would immediately start to like break
Speaker 5: and and like give you Yeah, of course, tiny cuts
Speaker 5: around your eyes yeah. And then then instead of a
Speaker 5: C three PO like suit, it would be essentially like
Speaker 5: a plastic smock. Yeah, also with a picture of C
Speaker 5: three po on it.
Speaker 4: Just printed onto a paper, Yeah, a plastic bag basically. Yeah,
Speaker 4: not form fitting at all.
Speaker 5: No, yep, your face is secrepo and your torso is
Speaker 5: like C three po going like hey, like doing shruggy arms. Yeah,
Speaker 5: and then a Star Wars logo and that was your
Speaker 5: costume and that was.
Speaker 4: In the back of your head. It's just a hair
Speaker 4: and there's a rubber band because the mask is just
Speaker 4: held on with weak elastic and two stables. Yeah, I'm familiar.
Speaker 5: So what I'm thinking about doing is that but Scott.
Speaker 4: Con so like James Conn's son.
Speaker 5: Yeah, getting like a like printing a Scott Con mask
Speaker 5: on like poster board, having like a rubber band around
Speaker 5: the head, and then an oversized T shirt which I
Speaker 5: would have airbrushed with like a picture of Scott Con,
Speaker 5: you know, as whatever his character's name is in boiler room.
Speaker 5: And then it's like, oh, I found my Scotts, my
Speaker 5: Scott con costume from first grade. I'm just gonna wear
Speaker 5: it again. And that's that I think is gonna be
Speaker 5: my costume.
Speaker 3: Scott con costume in first grade when he was also
Speaker 3: in first one.
Speaker 5: When he was also in first grade.
Speaker 4: Yeah that yeah, that is that is what a seventies
Speaker 4: a version of him before he was born.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but but like fully from the movie boiler Room.
Speaker 5: And then like a quote from his character in boiler
Speaker 5: Room on the back which I don't know any but
Speaker 5: it would be like, hey, we gotta go trade those
Speaker 5: stocks or whatever, or like hey fuck you, I'm I'm
Speaker 5: a stockbroker or what some kind of a line from
Speaker 5: that verius I was riffing.
Speaker 4: That's like my dinner with Andre lunchbox from Waiting for Guy,
Speaker 4: just very specific. Why is that specific? Because we haven't
Speaker 4: heard from him lately, That's why.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's on isn't he on Hawaii five O or whatever?
Speaker 3: He's on one of those kinds of shows.
Speaker 5: Yeah, which is either still on the air or has
Speaker 5: been off the air for ten.
Speaker 4: Years exactly, which, just like Bhones, you never know, Bones
Speaker 4: could be on for another ten years, we would never know.
Speaker 4: I think Never is one of the longest running shows ever,
Speaker 4: right or maybe there it's done at the.
Speaker 5: Health Spot when I was at like again, yeah, it
Speaker 5: was it was like the order a half hour before dinner,
Speaker 5: and I was like, I had no one to talk to.
Speaker 5: I was like, I was so tired of like bothering
Speaker 5: this couple and uh. And so there was like a
Speaker 5: USA Today from three days ago. I was like, oh, terrific,
Speaker 5: let me catch up on the purple section and uh.
Speaker 5: And it was marg Helgenberger reprising her role from CSI
Speaker 5: in the new show c s I Vegas, which I
Speaker 5: thought that cs I was always in Vegas, ye, And
Speaker 5: I didn't know that Mark Helgenberger was no longer a
Speaker 5: part of that show. But it was a long Q
Speaker 5: and A with her about why she decided to come
Speaker 5: back to the show and you know, like how her
Speaker 5: wardrobe is different now and you know, and how the
Speaker 5: characters in a kind of a new stage of life
Speaker 5: and so she's making new decisions and I was like, wow, yeah,
Speaker 5: that's but I truly I just assumed that that show
Speaker 5: had always been on and that she had always been
Speaker 5: a part of it.
Speaker 3: That's such a perfect USA Today update, Like that's exactly
Speaker 3: the information USA Today has for the USA.
Speaker 5: Yes, in the four page life section, Like it's truly,
Speaker 5: It's just it's just one giant sheet that's like one, two, three, four.
Speaker 4: Yes, it's as relaxing as a massage exactly.
Speaker 5: It is such a wonderful thing to pretend to read
Speaker 5: while you bide your time before you get a small
Speaker 5: portion of salmon for dinner.
Speaker 3: I had a Mark Helgenberger anecdote, and the only reason
Speaker 3: I was going to tell you about it is because
Speaker 3: it involves Kate Schellenbach, who was the original drummer of
Speaker 3: the Beast Boys and the drummer for Luscius Jackson, who
Speaker 3: is now a television producer. And I used to work
Speaker 3: with her when I worked on Ellen, and she at
Speaker 3: the time was in the research department, and she those
Speaker 3: researchers had to like they had like so many celebrities
Speaker 3: that they had to research all day every day, and
Speaker 3: it would drive them insane because they had to read that.
Speaker 2: That's the job.
Speaker 3: You go and read every article about whatever celebrity is
Speaker 3: going to be on and then you have to like
Speaker 3: parse all that information, put a packet together and be
Speaker 3: like this is everything you need to know. And so
Speaker 3: all of the researchers would go like a little insane
Speaker 3: when they had to research certain people, right, because they
Speaker 3: just be like and so Kate had to research Mark
Speaker 3: Helgenberg and couldn't stop just yelling the name marg Helgenberger
Speaker 3: everywhere she went, and it became this weird kind of
Speaker 3: Colin response where it'd be like, Mark Helgenberger, She's so
Speaker 3: not worth telling that, but it's fun to talk about
Speaker 3: the fact that Kate Schellenbach transitioned from a very lucrative
Speaker 3: and successful music career to a very lucrative and successful
Speaker 3: television career.
Speaker 2: I just love that.
Speaker 5: And Mark Heltenberger was the gateway between.
Speaker 2: And he made it happen.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I okay. In the Larry Sanders Show, there is
Speaker 5: a moment where the talent persons has studied up on
Speaker 5: a person and gives the wrong note, gives that note
Speaker 5: to Larry Sanders and he's like interviewing Nicolette Sheridan, but
Speaker 5: it's the notes for Tory spelling, and she sees it
Speaker 5: on the monitor and she realizes what she's done and
Speaker 5: she just goes cop fuck. And that is my favorite
Speaker 5: like swear word of all time. Cock fuck. Okay, So
Speaker 5: long ago, I was at the Lulu's I want to
Speaker 5: say on Beverly Yeah, yeah, yes, it was like it
Speaker 5: was like a breakfast a lunch place. It's not there.
Speaker 5: Ye showed me crazy. I used to love a good
Speaker 5: old scramble there. But I was. I was sitting there
Speaker 5: having breakfast or lunch, and Scott con was also there.
Speaker 5: And then and and then somebody he got a call.
Speaker 5: And then somebody pulled up like and parked at one
Speaker 5: of the spaces near it, and Scott con pulled cash
Speaker 5: out of his pocket and was like and like counted
Speaker 5: out a bunch of twenties and the car. Yeah, went
Speaker 5: into this person's car and sat in the in the
Speaker 5: passenger seat and like plain a day, like head of
Speaker 5: the person the money, and that person was like m
Speaker 5: and counted it off and like Scott Cohn got something
Speaker 5: back and was like shook a person's hand. Yeah. I
Speaker 5: mean it was just like the most out I mean
Speaker 5: what it's to me looked like the most out in
Speaker 5: the open like drug deal of all time.
Speaker 4: Maybe he's a polo better glory is that non polo?
Speaker 5: Right? Yeah? By the way, do you know you can
Speaker 5: just go up and watch Polo at that Santa Barbara? Uh,
Speaker 5: like Polo field on the way up to Santa Barbara.
Speaker 4: I really I think that's where I had polo lessons once.
Speaker 5: Oh really, yeah.
Speaker 2: Are they serious?
Speaker 4: It was more I wanted to learn how to ride
Speaker 4: a horse because I feel bad that I'm from Montana
Speaker 4: and i've I've never had touched a horse. I mean,
Speaker 4: I've petted horses, but I've never gotten up on their
Speaker 4: back and I and it was just fun. I've talked
Speaker 4: about this on this podcast too. But the horse was
Speaker 4: so well trained at trying to teach humans to play
Speaker 4: polo that he would like kick the ball for me. Oh,
Speaker 4: good job, that was all you, sir. But it was
Speaker 4: I was like, it's very hard to hit with a
Speaker 4: mound like a long mountain. Yeah, it looks, but the horse, Yeah,
Speaker 4: the horse was great at polo. Yeah, I think that is. Yeah,
Speaker 4: it's very near Malibu. It was in the mountains.
Speaker 5: Yeah, this is like almost all the way up to
Speaker 5: Santa Barbara. If you're going north on the one O one,
Speaker 5: it's on the right, yep. And and it looks like
Speaker 5: you wouldn't be able to just drive in and watch
Speaker 5: a match, but you can't. You totally opened to the public.
Speaker 5: It's open to the public, and Prince Harry is playing polo.
Speaker 5: Now you can like go and see him play polo. Oh,
Speaker 5: I have done this.
Speaker 2: It's you've done that.
Speaker 5: I've done it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that doesn't seem safe for Prince Harry. Do you
Speaker 3: think we've we've got to have some people up in
Speaker 3: the trees or whatever, right.
Speaker 5: There's security around, Yeah, yeah, but everyone gets very dressy
Speaker 5: and at halftime or whatever it's called, and walk out
Speaker 5: onto the field and you stomp the divots back in. Well,
Speaker 5: bits of earth have been have been pulled up, and
Speaker 5: so you go out and you stop them, and then
Speaker 5: you go back to your seat in your fancy clothes.
Speaker 3: These things because I remember working for some comedy show
Speaker 3: and having to write jokes because there were celebrities that
Speaker 3: had gone to a polo match back east and so
Speaker 3: have for whatever reason, I had to go through and
Speaker 3: look at it and write jokes about it. And it
Speaker 3: brings up a feeling in me. And I think it's
Speaker 3: because I grew up in Sonoma County, which was all cows,
Speaker 3: and we were right next to Marin County, which is
Speaker 3: one of the richest concentrations of human beings on the planet,
Speaker 3: or at least in America, and that feeling of like
Speaker 3: if we had to go to Marinn for some reason,
Speaker 3: you always just felt like you don't belong, you're poor,
Speaker 3: and get out of here. Was always the vibe and
Speaker 3: looking through those pictures where it's just like like that
Speaker 3: idea of wanting to go and be around that it,
Speaker 3: I would never want to. I would feel so bad
Speaker 3: in the parking lot. I would feel bad every moment
Speaker 3: I was there. I would feel it would become this
Speaker 3: Like I just think that is fascinating, where like that
Speaker 3: aspirational aspect for some people is so alluring and for
Speaker 3: me it's just like, oh it makes me feel terrible.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm in between. I don't aspire to it at all,
Speaker 5: Like I don't like, I don't want to be one
Speaker 5: of these like fancies. And that's actually what makes it
Speaker 5: fun is that there are all of these people around
Speaker 5: who are like super dressed and like trying to you know,
Speaker 5: trying to network and whatever. And that's that to me
Speaker 5: is really fun to watch. Plus it's just like it's
Speaker 5: kind of a cool sport, you know, like it's interesting.
Speaker 4: Yeah, how watching Horace's play a sport is cool?
Speaker 5: It is kind of cool. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And that's the thing. I didn't you hear about
Speaker 4: Malibu and you think surfing or you think of that
Speaker 4: Ortney Love song, of course, but I right away there's
Speaker 4: like an equestrian I think it's now a quick silver
Speaker 4: surf shop, but there used to be like an equestrian
Speaker 4: like feed store right along the pch there, and I
Speaker 4: always wondered why. And then you go into what is
Speaker 4: Malibu and you think it's going to be rich people
Speaker 4: homes which are in the mountains or right by the beach,
Speaker 4: but in the middle it's like farm community. Like it
Speaker 4: is pretty much both those things happening.
Speaker 5: It's gonna be.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's really Malibu is not if you've never
Speaker 4: been there, it's not what you think it's going to be.
Speaker 4: It's like lots of animals.
Speaker 3: To have horses is so wildly expensive, like you can't, no,
Speaker 3: you can't casually. I remember trying to convince my mom
Speaker 3: to get me a horse when I was like ten
Speaker 3: years old, because I was like, I will beat it
Speaker 3: every day and we could keep it aunt jeans or whatever.
Speaker 3: She was like, do you understand how expensive like food, training, equipment,
Speaker 3: like all of it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, anything is yeah, yeah, you got to buy a trailer.
Speaker 4: It's like getting into water skiing. Also buy a boat.
Speaker 5: Mm hmm.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you can't just casually do it.
Speaker 5: So I actually have a niece who's who's trying to
Speaker 5: do that now. My youngest niece is trying it. Wants
Speaker 5: a horse real bad. Yeah, and uh and she like
Speaker 5: does ride and whatever.
Speaker 3: Like my.
Speaker 5: We were sort of like we grew up middle class,
Speaker 5: but but my brothers and I all went to like
Speaker 5: fancy schools kinda so we were you know, we weren't
Speaker 5: like poor, and we weren't like visibly that much less
Speaker 5: wealthy than anyone else, but like there there were you know,
Speaker 5: we were with like the families of Saint Louis.
Speaker 6: Which he gives a ship and so school that sounds fancy, Villa,
Speaker 6: say it Villa and see I'm not fair.
Speaker 4: I'm a country man.
Speaker 5: Yeah that was. Yeah. After at seventh grade it became
Speaker 5: an all girls school and the boys went off to
Speaker 5: to Prairie. It was it was known as Villa, and
Speaker 5: like I still don't understand how they managed to not
Speaker 5: be called VD Girls School. And the initials are VD,
Speaker 5: and that's what we called it in the eighties, was VD,
Speaker 5: like it's SDDS now, but it was VD in the eighties. Yes,
Speaker 5: and I don't. I don't know how we never made
Speaker 5: that connection that that's good pr work to maybe now,
Speaker 5: I mean it's but also unbelievably cruel in the manner
Speaker 5: of teenagers, you know what I mean, I think somebody
Speaker 5: would have gotten there. So yeah, So now I think
Speaker 5: my oldest brother is going through that like he you know,
Speaker 5: is he's doing well and the kids are going to
Speaker 5: good schools. And I think the youngest daughter is like,
Speaker 5: of course to complete the fantasy. But like, no, the
Speaker 5: ship is too expensive.
Speaker 2: It's so expensive.
Speaker 4: Is that a sibling of your uh, notorious p I
Speaker 4: g owning that?
Speaker 5: Different? Different brother? Yeah, different brother. My nephew has a
Speaker 5: restaurant in Missoula, a duo actually restaurants. Yeah, in Missoula
Speaker 5: barbecue place. It's called Notorious p Ig.
Speaker 2: Nice.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's and it's everyone loves it. Everyone loves him.
Speaker 4: He's part of the community. Was he from Missoula?
Speaker 5: No, but but the like he went up there a lot.
Speaker 5: My my brother took him up there a lot because
Speaker 5: he like really took to fishing, and so he was
Speaker 5: like this like fly fishing savants, like yeah, like it
Speaker 5: like became a guide very young and uh and would
Speaker 5: like spend summers up there and that kind of thing,
Speaker 5: and so that part of the world like spoke to
Speaker 5: him and he went to school there and decided to stay.
Speaker 5: And his brother has now done the same.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that riding a horse and fly fishing two things
Speaker 4: that Missoula is famous for, and I had never done either.
Speaker 4: And but everyone that was moving there that I like
Speaker 4: Matt and college, they were there because of those things
Speaker 4: or exactly, and I cannot maybe I appreciate.
Speaker 5: It would go nuts fly fishing. I would have anxiety immediately,
Speaker 5: just like the quiet and and just like the commitment,
Speaker 5: the time commitment of it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I like just.
Speaker 5: The idea of it. I can't sit with it. I'm
Speaker 5: gonna have to do it at some point in my life.
Speaker 5: You're gonna have There are too many people in my
Speaker 5: family who love it that like it's it's amazing that
Speaker 5: I've gotten away with it as long as I have.
Speaker 4: But yeah, yeah, you just can't anything that requires ahead
Speaker 4: of time. They warn you that you have to be patient.
Speaker 5: It's not for me, No, absolutely, not, absolutely.
Speaker 3: It feels like it's the kind of activity that I
Speaker 3: like that we have several themes on the show Scot
Speaker 3: con activities, elite to activities sources. But it feels like
Speaker 3: the kind of thing where like it's like if you
Speaker 3: are like a high pressure like a stock broker or
Speaker 3: like you know what I mean, like you're on the
Speaker 3: stock exchange, that's your vacation because you need this huge change. Yes,
Speaker 3: Whereas like I feel like the lives that we very
Speaker 3: intentionally chose for ourselves are like kind of fun based
Speaker 3: lives anyway, So it's almost like going and then being sent.
Speaker 2: To a river by yourself for us would be.
Speaker 3: Punishment, but for the average like you know, cardiac surgeon,
Speaker 3: it just be like get me out of here. That's
Speaker 3: their way of like you know, yeah, that's their Vegas.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I that's great, but yeah no, the idea
Speaker 5: of like that much time with my thoughts is like
Speaker 5: that's I can't. I can't do it.
Speaker 3: I do have a story about fly fishing, but it's
Speaker 3: going to be a bummer.
Speaker 5: Great.
Speaker 3: A friend of my cousins who is also a huge equestrian.
Speaker 3: In fact, my cousin, Stevie rode dressage and was like
Speaker 3: sponsored by a very rich family and basically my sister
Speaker 3: told me it called me recently like this.
Speaker 2: Year in this year, she goes, did you know Stevie
Speaker 2: was the national champion? And I was like, ahead's what.
Speaker 3: We never We always saw his like blue ribbons and stuff.
Speaker 3: But it was so such a reflection of the way
Speaker 3: our families worked and the way things worked. But it
Speaker 3: was just like he went off because he was so
Speaker 3: good at that kind of horse riding and was like
Speaker 3: a champion, and nobody in the family knew that for
Speaker 3: a fact, and.
Speaker 2: He never talked about it.
Speaker 3: Then he just like stopped doing it and went to
Speaker 3: cow Poly and like you know, went on with his
Speaker 3: adult life. But like just recently, my sister's like, because
Speaker 3: we knew he did it, and we knew he was
Speaker 3: good at it, but we didn't know he was like
Speaker 3: the he was number one in the nation for a while. Wow,
Speaker 3: and I think he was like an alternate for the
Speaker 3: Olympic team. Anyway, that wasn't the story, and we can
Speaker 3: cut that out if necessary.
Speaker 2: But he has a.
Speaker 3: Friend and so he told us the story and it's
Speaker 3: it's a real cringer, but kind of great. He has
Speaker 3: a friend who's super rich and went on vacation, and
Speaker 3: his vacation it was like they got helicoptered into this
Speaker 3: part of very remote Canada to go to like the
Speaker 3: best fly fishing space or whatever. Right, So it's like,
Speaker 3: so they're in a very remote area, they're at this.
Speaker 2: River, they start fly fishing. This is the bad part.
Speaker 3: So if you're a squeamish type of person, you don't
Speaker 3: want to hear about stuff like this.
Speaker 2: Get go away for a while.
Speaker 4: Excuse me, no, not the gush.
Speaker 3: He's fly fishing and because that's the one where you
Speaker 3: have to like cast out right and your little fake.
Speaker 2: Fly is on the water right and you.
Speaker 4: Sorry, eyelid, what I.
Speaker 5: Was afraid of? Yep, but I thought certainly she wouldn't.
Speaker 2: Oh she did, she would, and she did.
Speaker 5: And how he's fine.
Speaker 2: Everything's fine, and he's fine, and it was.
Speaker 3: But basically they had to figure out how to get
Speaker 3: back out, to get him to like a hospital and
Speaker 3: the whole thing whatever.
Speaker 2: Where It's like to me when he was.
Speaker 3: In probably his early forties i think at the time,
Speaker 3: so he's a you know, grown adult, But it was like,
Speaker 3: that's the kind of thing where I'm always thinking of that.
Speaker 3: I remember hearing that story, and then it's just like
Speaker 3: you got to think about the exit if the entrance
Speaker 3: is that involved where you have to hire like and
Speaker 3: schedule the ride, then anything could happen once you're out there.
Speaker 5: Of course, yeah, oh my god.
Speaker 2: That's worst case.
Speaker 4: But and it's always what I think of ever since
Speaker 4: I first saw fishing, because they're when they're casting, they're
Speaker 4: just they're doing all these actus whips. That's probably not
Speaker 4: what it's called. But each time you're trying to get
Speaker 4: the time I caught a fish, well, because I have
Speaker 4: fly fished a couple of times, I just let the
Speaker 4: thing rest on the water, and you're not supposed to
Speaker 4: do that, and a fish jumped up and got it. Anyway,
Speaker 4: you're supposed to have it like drift over the water
Speaker 4: just like one inch in the same spot and taunt
Speaker 4: them until they leap out of the water. The lazy
Speaker 4: version is letting it just sit on the surface. But meanwhile,
Speaker 4: I'm like, what if everyone stay far away from me,
Speaker 4: I don't know where I'll be whipping this hook right?
Speaker 4: Of course, a lip or an eyelid, of course, Oh
Speaker 4: my god.
Speaker 5: Well, at least it wasn't like the eye.
Speaker 2: Correct.
Speaker 5: That's worse. Yeah, okay, scenario, but that's I lit is
Speaker 5: a pretty bad case scenario, terrible.
Speaker 4: The silver lining there is fish. I don't think human
Speaker 4: eyes are delicious they were.
Speaker 5: Love, sure they do.
Speaker 4: I'm sure they just whip above the water. Yeah, me. Right.
Speaker 5: In the nineties, when I was in New York, like
Speaker 5: my first like New York boyfriend was very fancy and
Speaker 5: was from like the Philadelphia area, and he had a
Speaker 5: cousin who who was like nationally ranked in dressage or so.
Speaker 5: So we would go and it's very fancy, and so
Speaker 5: we would go and see her sometimes if she was
Speaker 5: like doing a thing that was near us, and I
Speaker 5: maybe it was just this particular team or her whatever,
Speaker 5: her people or whatever. I found it to be such
Speaker 5: an unholy mix of like rich conservative ass holes and
Speaker 5: gay men because because like the people, like the horse
Speaker 5: groomers were always there and they were like these like
Speaker 5: this species of gay man that I had never seen,
Speaker 5: who were like you know, real ended horse grooming or whatever.
Speaker 5: There was a couple that that like did this girl's
Speaker 5: horse and whatever and like and that very can servative,
Speaker 5: wealthy family. Like they were all close, but like you know,
Speaker 5: they were referred to as like the boys, but like
Speaker 5: not you know, not in a way that was like.
Speaker 3: Because yeah, yeah, they're not allowed to call them the help.
Speaker 3: That's why they called them the boy.
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, and it's like they're not men really, so
Speaker 5: like yeah, it was uh, it was that kind of thing,
Speaker 5: and that made me like super uncomfortable. That was a
Speaker 5: world that I was like, I don't I don't think
Speaker 5: I want to. I don't want to intersect with this world.
Speaker 4: No again, And I I think I think I'm right.
Speaker 4: Where the horse is like kind of dancing. You're like
Speaker 4: dancing and trotting, and is it like a dance performance
Speaker 4: with a horse.
Speaker 5: Jumping?
Speaker 2: It's jumping.
Speaker 3: So drissage is the one where they jump over like
Speaker 3: the fake hedges and the white fence looking things and
Speaker 3: stuff in a ring. Sorry, my cousin Stevie did cross
Speaker 3: country where it's dressage out in the countryside, so you're
Speaker 3: never in a it's not in an arena. You have
Speaker 3: to go to people's ranches or gigantic estates and they
Speaker 3: basically is like they started way back there and you
Speaker 3: stand at one point to be there to see and
Speaker 3: they're basically it's the most natural, like in nature version
Speaker 3: of dressage where it's like they actually ride this horse
Speaker 3: through a track in the countryside.
Speaker 4: And have them jump over fences and not limbo bars.
Speaker 3: Yep, yep, it's I mean, it's the kind of thing
Speaker 3: where it's like it is so.
Speaker 2: It's it is a complete lead. It's like polo tennis.
Speaker 3: All of these horse sports, these are all things that
Speaker 3: are only for rich people. Yeah, or like have been
Speaker 3: have been in the past.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I always like any any like horse back
Speaker 5: riding I've ever done, I just feel bad, Yes, Like
Speaker 5: I just always feel like this horse would rather be
Speaker 5: doing something else. You know. The idea of like a
Speaker 5: broken horse is so heartbreaking to me, the idea of
Speaker 5: just like I don't even have a will anymore, but
Speaker 5: like maybe there's a dream and a memory somewhere deep
Speaker 5: in there that's like I could run free, but now
Speaker 5: I can't. Like when it's a pony rides at the
Speaker 5: farmers market a boulevard and they're just like they're just
Speaker 5: shamed up and joyless, and the kid on their back
Speaker 5: doesn't even care.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just it's it's just like an elephant at
Speaker 4: a circus. Yeah, it's just zoo.
Speaker 5: There's a little there's a little at the farmer's market
Speaker 5: on Sunday, mornings on Venture Place in Studio City. There's
Speaker 5: a little train and it's not even really a train.
Speaker 5: It's just like a little tiny it's like a truck,
Speaker 5: but it's shaped like a train and it takes.
Speaker 4: Block and disappointing trains.
Speaker 5: No, it's very disappointing train.
Speaker 4: It's got tires, yes, yeah.
Speaker 5: And I was there a couple of weeks ago and
Speaker 5: the train had like one solitary kid in it and
Speaker 5: I was like this, I'm in heaven. And the kid
Speaker 5: was just like I don't want to be doing this.
Speaker 5: The driver didn't want to be doing it. It was
Speaker 5: just like it was such a fucking chore for you both.
Speaker 5: And I was like, oh, this is this is a gift.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, than solo pickleball person. That's just the one
Speaker 4: person in the train.
Speaker 3: Because it's also because it's a child.
Speaker 4: Shots at the last car to the caboose.
Speaker 5: It had to be right, no, right in the middle,
Speaker 5: right in the middle, a sensible middle.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, why not? Other people might show up.
Speaker 5: Yeah, once it's in motion, I don't really but but
Speaker 5: you know, the kid was too young to be self
Speaker 5: conscious about being alone on a thing, which like after
Speaker 5: a round age twelve, it's like, Oh, everyone's looking at
Speaker 5: me and they don't think I have any friends and
Speaker 5: I can yeah, yeah, do this.
Speaker 2: You know what's funny.
Speaker 3: My niece, who is an only child, used to have
Speaker 3: to do stuff by herself, and I would get so
Speaker 3: much like secondhand vicarious self consciousness, or she doesn't like this,
Speaker 3: she's unhappy.
Speaker 2: I did it. But there aren't those kids.
Speaker 3: And maybe like when you're an only child or whatever
Speaker 3: where just like, yeah, it's fun.
Speaker 2: I don't care like she.
Speaker 3: My sister and I definitely had many of the same
Speaker 3: neurosis watching my niece grow up. My sister and I
Speaker 3: would just be like, look at her, she doesn't have
Speaker 3: any of our problems. Like she would just go and
Speaker 3: stand and you know, wait around for the pony and
Speaker 3: then it'd be her turn and she'd just be like
Speaker 3: this is great, and it would it's like they don't
Speaker 3: know the difference.
Speaker 5: I love that guy. That's magical. There was a kid
Speaker 5: in my in my class in high school who I
Speaker 5: will never forget. This is good Derek. And my friend
Speaker 5: Ned and I were talking to him and we're like,
Speaker 5: what did you do over the weekend? And he was like,
Speaker 5: I went to whatever, see whatever movie and we're like
Speaker 5: who with and he was like I just went by myself,
Speaker 5: and we were like like what, like like did you
Speaker 5: like what if you saw people like I just went
Speaker 5: to movies and so like as ned and I walked
Speaker 5: away ned like WHI was springing in my ear. I
Speaker 5: didn't even go to Blockbuster Video alone, so I either
Speaker 5: like just because at that at like sixteen, the idea
Speaker 5: of being like spotted alone, Yeah, people will talk about you.
Speaker 4: Yeah. When I was a kid, I was alone all
Speaker 4: the time. I had an imaginary friend. His name was Chuck,
Speaker 4: and I remember being very happy. But yeah, once you're
Speaker 4: in high school, if you're alone.
Speaker 5: The virus of self consciousness, yeah, affects you.
Speaker 4: Oh god, but not some kids. I had a door
Speaker 4: to door sales job as like coupon books, I think,
Speaker 4: and I went I recognized a kid from my high
Speaker 4: school that wasn't that popular, and it was the saddest
Speaker 4: thing ever. He is in his yard and he had
Speaker 4: a baseball mit and he was just throwing a ball
Speaker 4: into the air and then running and catching it. And
Speaker 4: then I was like, hey, Shannon, and I waved to
Speaker 4: him and he threw me the ball and I caught it,
Speaker 4: and then I threw it to him and like went
Speaker 4: over his fence and into a ditch. And then he
Speaker 4: is by himself without his ball, and I was like, well,
Speaker 4: my work here is done. I just made his life
Speaker 4: even sadder. I will. I think about that all the time.
Speaker 4: And I visibly flinch because oh, he was like, oh
Speaker 4: I'm playing with someone, and I'm like, no, I'm just
Speaker 4: going to get rid of your ball. See you later. Wait.
Speaker 4: But no, God, no, I just.
Speaker 5: Uh, you know, because there are kids who would.
Speaker 2: Yes, they are like the standard.
Speaker 4: I think a lot of kids were not very nice
Speaker 4: to Shannon. Uh, And I always noticed that. I hope
Speaker 4: he's like a brilliant I think he wanted to be
Speaker 4: an engineer. I hope he's very successful now. But yeah,
Speaker 4: I took out a baseball threw it in a ditch.
Speaker 4: Oh god, I'm sorry.
Speaker 5: Shannon got to be strong to be a male Shannon.
Speaker 2: That's right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah he was. He was. He could tell he
Speaker 4: was a big kid.
Speaker 5: Uh. I'm I ask, what are you costuming?
Speaker 4: As I've already just take it. I mean, I I
Speaker 4: mean it's in the background here. I don't know if
Speaker 4: you can.
Speaker 5: See a tree, a tree.
Speaker 4: Well, it's a light.
Speaker 5: Are you a desk?
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's too hard to see there. I'm a I'm
Speaker 4: a it's a toilet, and I'm a dead recently deceased
Speaker 4: Elvis sitting on a toilet, fake Walvis legs. I got
Speaker 4: the foam. I'm about to carve the Elvis's legs and
Speaker 4: my legs, of course in white tights, are the are
Speaker 4: the legs of the toilet. So it's the optical illusion
Speaker 4: of hey, there's Elvis on a walking toilet monster.
Speaker 5: But you can give Elvis like a sturdy calf just
Speaker 5: to just so you can like have the experience.
Speaker 4: Right, this is a good way for me to Yeah,
Speaker 4: I curiously relive my calves through Elvis. They're going to
Speaker 4: be big, bulbous and vainy. And I got a little
Speaker 4: carving knife that is specifically for foam rubber. I went
Speaker 4: to Michael I know you're not supposed to go to Michael's,
Speaker 4: but God, it was like a wonderland.
Speaker 2: And I what do you mean, well, you're thinking of
Speaker 2: hobby Lobby.
Speaker 4: Oh, I was at hobby Lobby. That was a test
Speaker 4: if you're knowledge one. Oh God, and that place is
Speaker 4: just amazing. I know that every purchase there, they send
Speaker 4: a dollar to the enforcement of unwanted child being born
Speaker 4: and all these terrible things and they but oh my god,
Speaker 4: I love that place so much. And all I befriended
Speaker 4: all these ladies that were like, they have dollhouse stuff too,
Speaker 4: and I'm like, I know if I had a great time,
Speaker 4: but they had everything I needed. I'm very I enjoy
Speaker 4: crafts and so yes, that is my Elvis dying on
Speaker 4: a toilet as my cost Wow. And it's really coming along.
Speaker 4: It was looking pretty grim in the last couple of days.
Speaker 4: But I have everything I need now. And I don't
Speaker 4: know how I'm getting any parties. I will have to
Speaker 4: rent an uber Suv to bring this. It's larger than
Speaker 4: a real toilet, and they're the legs are larger than
Speaker 4: Elvis's legs. Everything's a little too big. I don't know
Speaker 4: how I'm getting anywhere. But I'm going to three parties.
Speaker 4: One of them is a costume contest, and I am
Speaker 4: going to win it. It's the most confident I've ever
Speaker 4: been about anything, and it's very exciting. Yeah, it is.
Speaker 4: It is to me.
Speaker 2: I'm going to be James Kahn. That's what I've just said.
Speaker 5: Yea perfect couple.
Speaker 2: James Smock during this episode.
Speaker 5: Ye great, James con and the Playboy mansion grotto. Yeah,
Speaker 5: in nineteen seventy eight, just living.
Speaker 2: Please James James Kahn from The Godfather one great.
Speaker 4: Please tell me, Dave, you really are making this gouty
Speaker 4: con mask and costume.
Speaker 5: No, I really am.
Speaker 4: That's great. I'm so happy. I think that's a great idea.
Speaker 5: I do need to find somebody who can airbrush T
Speaker 5: shirts like it turns out I don't live on a
Speaker 5: boardwalk so like I do.
Speaker 3: Although you live close to a landlocked boardwalk, which is
Speaker 3: Universal City Walk, there's no way they don't have something
Speaker 3: like that up there.
Speaker 2: Don't you think they have to?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 5: I bet they do.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, I have good news and bad news. I'm
Speaker 4: great with an airbrush. Bad news is don't own one.
Speaker 4: Hard to come by them.
Speaker 3: Sorry, Venice Beach, Yep or Universal City.
Speaker 5: Okay, okay. I I did do a search for T
Speaker 5: shirt airbrushing in North Hollywood and there was some guy
Speaker 5: who did it out of his apartment. But he's traveling
Speaker 5: this week.
Speaker 4: T shirt airbrush expos overseas. Yeah, they like to get together.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's going to meet up with the guys talk
Speaker 3: about airbrush stuff.
Speaker 5: Oh. Also, this has nothing to do with Halloween. But
Speaker 5: I just want to toot my horn please. In January,
Speaker 5: and this will be the second time I've done this,
Speaker 5: I will be in Las Vegas, right. I have a
Speaker 5: job writing the podium banter for the Gay Porn Awards
Speaker 5: Nice twenty twenty three Gay Porn Awards Nice, which I
Speaker 5: also did in twenty twenty just before the world shut down.
Speaker 5: In twenty one and twenty two they did it remotely
Speaker 5: and just used my jokes again. So three years in
Speaker 5: a row, the same jokes. So I'm coming back and
Speaker 5: I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna change them up ever
Speaker 5: so slightly.
Speaker 2: That's so exciting.
Speaker 5: It's very cool.
Speaker 4: Are you writing Do you know who you're writing for
Speaker 4: yet or not yet?
Speaker 5: The the nominees have not been announced, the presenters have
Speaker 5: not been announced.
Speaker 3: But you know the favorites, I mean, from this past year,
Speaker 3: people have really been standouts.
Speaker 5: Yeah, definitely, I mean, I yeah, I'm like, I'm keeping
Speaker 5: my ear to the ground. Great as far as you know,
Speaker 5: buzz and you know, like who they're putting forward and
Speaker 5: all that. So yeah, so I will know. Dan van
Speaker 5: Kirk has for several years written the I had done
Speaker 5: this for like the the A v Ns, which are
Speaker 5: like the big Yeah yeah yea, the Straight Porn Awards
Speaker 5: and also Lesbian Porn Awards. The Gay Porn Awards are
Speaker 5: just man on man everything else, anything true, that is true,
Speaker 5: anything straight.
Speaker 4: Man is included in the adult probably because the majority
Speaker 4: of the audience for Girl and Girl is just straight. Yeah.
Speaker 4: You would think I don't know that. I'm not looking
Speaker 4: at the information or have personal knowledge, but I.
Speaker 2: Guess you do. I love the stuff, but that's such
Speaker 2: a street anyway.
Speaker 5: God, it's weird you No, it's real weird. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 5: I'm excited about it.
Speaker 4: That's what a perfect fun writing.
Speaker 5: So dumb, it's so dumb and so much fun. And
Speaker 5: like the the executive producer at least last time, and
Speaker 5: I'm sure he's gonna be this way. I like, turned
Speaker 5: some stuff in and it's like less words, less words,
Speaker 5: less words. No, these are not these are not.
Speaker 4: Readers basically saying make it easier for yourself, yes.
Speaker 2: And them and the people primarily is there a teleprompter
Speaker 2: they have to that's amazing.
Speaker 4: How many times are you going to use the word jizz.
Speaker 5: You see, I don't. I don't. I don't like to
Speaker 5: do that.
Speaker 4: I like to elevate, I know it respectfully.
Speaker 5: Yes, of course, I like to suggest.
Speaker 3: He pretends just oscars and it's just a different topic.
Speaker 2: It's the same. It's the same vibe.
Speaker 5: Oscar vibes, basic vibes, the same basic vibe. Red carpet
Speaker 5: is you know, very different, but it's the same vibe.
Speaker 2: Is Are you the only writer?
Speaker 5: I am?
Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, that'll be fun.
Speaker 5: I think Alec Mappa is going to host. He will
Speaker 5: write his own material.
Speaker 2: Perfect.
Speaker 4: You're not.
Speaker 5: You're not going to tell Alec Mapa what to say.
Speaker 5: He's going he's got a.
Speaker 2: He couldn't if he wanted to.
Speaker 5: No, yeah, and uh. And then the Avians, I'm not
Speaker 5: sure they're the same, like Week in Vegas and so
Speaker 5: you know, who knows.
Speaker 4: Maybe I'll stay, say, go to the set of n
Speaker 4: CIS Vegas.
Speaker 5: I probably will stop.
Speaker 2: CSI Vegas.
Speaker 3: And CIS and CIS which is the mark Harmon version
Speaker 3: which I've binged them all.
Speaker 5: I mean, who is more reliably fucking hot than.
Speaker 3: A like since nineteen seventy because he was a college
Speaker 3: football quarterback.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then it was in summer school.
Speaker 3: Then he was in summer school just excelling at being
Speaker 3: good looking.
Speaker 4: Some course commercials. Sure, we just know his whole career.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: He on ESPN Classic, they used to show a Battle
Speaker 5: of the network stars, yeah, and which is amazing. You
Speaker 5: can see a lot of them on YouTube. But there
Speaker 5: was one from like eighty four when Mark Harmon was
Speaker 5: on Sane Elsewhere, and it's like him in a speedo
Speaker 5: about to do the swim relay and it's like this
Speaker 5: is there's there's no question that I saw it when
Speaker 5: it aired, yes, because it just like it. It plucked
Speaker 5: a string to me that was like yeah, like it's
Speaker 5: a vague but like serious.
Speaker 4: A memorable riff.
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, good.
Speaker 4: Lord he is.
Speaker 3: Mark Harmon's been carrying the concept of show business on
Speaker 3: his shoulders his entire life, and the idea that like
Speaker 3: he's one of those people because there's obviously many people,
Speaker 3: and I think men in particular, when they age and
Speaker 3: they're no longer hot eyes, they don't handle it well.
Speaker 3: Yeah right, Mark Harmon is the example of a person who,
Speaker 3: for whatever gene based reason, he's just never had to
Speaker 3: deal with it. Like I watched I've watched NCIS a
Speaker 3: ton every time he shows up on camera. By the way,
Speaker 3: same haircut as summer school, same haircut as everything.
Speaker 2: It's it's just like this works.
Speaker 3: There's something about his face, the setup of his face
Speaker 3: that is like, at least for this human being, like
Speaker 3: this is what works. That's what you want to do
Speaker 3: to look like old or young whatever. He's it's crazy.
Speaker 3: He's so lucky.
Speaker 4: He is the top paid television actor. Yeah really yeah, Okay,
Speaker 4: a little trivia. I don't know of this year, but
Speaker 4: as of a few years ago when I heard that
Speaker 4: or made it up, he was.
Speaker 3: Because an NCIS has been on for like sixteen seasons
Speaker 3: and he's the lead in it. Yeah, I think so
Speaker 3: they're just like, please come back. Everybody wants to watch you, and.
Speaker 5: Is like, I guess it's like the fact that that's
Speaker 5: been on forever is like proof that there's hospitals because
Speaker 5: that because it's like it's the ultimate sh that like
Speaker 5: it's just on, you know what I mean, Like it's
Speaker 5: I don't know anyone who would ever be like I
Speaker 5: have to I'm gonna like there's some n CIS waiting
Speaker 5: on my my DVR or whatever. It's just like it's
Speaker 5: on yes, you know, like so like during the day
Speaker 5: it's you know, Judge Mathis or whatever at the Jiffy
Speaker 5: loub But then after those clothes and it's prime time,
Speaker 5: it's just like nursing homes and hospitals and it just
Speaker 5: TVs where it's like CBS is what's on.
Speaker 3: Mark Harmon walking around with a file in his hand
Speaker 3: is what's going to get you back to shipshape?
Speaker 5: Yeah, you'll be fucky. Gal who like knows computers will
Speaker 5: be like, give him a report and somebody will you know,
Speaker 5: somebody will say enhance and then.
Speaker 4: They'll yeah, a thing that you've never been able to do.
Speaker 4: See there's blurry security footage. Why don't you bring it
Speaker 4: from pixelated to clear if we have that's an option
Speaker 4: that's only made up in TV shows.
Speaker 3: What's also really funny about NCIS being just a decades
Speaker 3: long hit is that it's about the Navy, the crimes
Speaker 3: that happen within the Navy.
Speaker 2: That's what's hilarious.
Speaker 3: Exclusively, Dave, is there anything else you want to plug
Speaker 3: or promote before you go?
Speaker 5: I mean, listen, all ten episodes of Waiting for Impact
Speaker 5: are there for your binge and pleasure people discovering it
Speaker 5: all over the world. We're charting in Iceland.
Speaker 2: Yes, is that true?
Speaker 5: That is true. Yeah, it's wid It's such Yeah, it's
Speaker 5: so it's such a crazy thing because like you know,
Speaker 5: we you know, it came out at the end of
Speaker 5: probably around a year ago, and and we you know,
Speaker 5: we we like promoted it like crazy and and and
Speaker 5: it like it charted and and it did, you know,
Speaker 5: it did really well. I'm happy about that. But then
Speaker 5: like two months later, Yahoo Music did a piece on
Speaker 5: it and it charted it all over again. What's it
Speaker 5: like number one all over again? And like and all
Speaker 5: of these people hit me up on Twitter like I've
Speaker 5: been fascinated with the story forever, Like where's this podcast
Speaker 5: been And it's like, well, it's been here for like
Speaker 5: two or three months, yeah, and like and we have
Speaker 5: been promoting it, but it's just like everything is so
Speaker 5: like everything is so siloed right now that you will
Speaker 5: never reach everybody right.
Speaker 4: Now, you know.
Speaker 3: And that's the fascinating thing about And I think it's
Speaker 3: the thing we're just starting to discover about podcasts there forever.
Speaker 3: So it'll happen again. And if anybody in that in
Speaker 3: that circle. If it comes up again, it'll chart again.
Speaker 3: Like that's the kind of cool thing. And there is
Speaker 3: very much a long game to podcasting because it's like
Speaker 3: you post it and then you just leave it up
Speaker 3: and see if people can find it, and then if
Speaker 3: you do another podcast. That's the other thing with limited
Speaker 3: series too, where they just get this little window to
Speaker 3: kind of perform. But for like a chat show like
Speaker 3: this one, it's always on, so you can you like
Speaker 3: get to a mass.
Speaker 2: People as you go, where it's like a.
Speaker 3: Different you know, it's a different strategy, but overall it's
Speaker 3: like even if that like the launch ends, it never
Speaker 3: stops existing, so people get to discover it.
Speaker 2: They'll discover it in five years.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a book. It's in the library forever. Yeah,
Speaker 5: which is yeah, it's really cool and fun.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: And I keep getting these like chart reports from whoever
Speaker 5: does them, and like and it's and it's like it's
Speaker 5: always a surprise. Every couple of weeks it'll be like, oh,
Speaker 5: somebody halfful of people listening in uh Moldova or whatever. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 5: And I don't know, I don't know why Moldova just
Speaker 5: got it, but they got it.
Speaker 2: They got it and they're talking about it. Yeah, that's great.
Speaker 5: So Moldovans get into it waiting for impact. All ten
Speaker 5: episodes right now. Impress your Moldovan friends.
Speaker 2: It's buzzing in your country.
Speaker 5: Mm hmm yeah, got hot hot buzz. And then I
Speaker 5: guess otherwise we'll just see me on the pickleball court. Yeah,
Speaker 5: we'll see my powerful thighs.
Speaker 4: I can't wait to see those shorts so exciting. Wear
Speaker 4: them to the Christmas party. Just wear those shorts for
Speaker 4: their Christmas sweater Christmas party?
Speaker 5: Maybe I will because after hours? Yeah, why not?
Speaker 4: We don't have to be in the backyard this year.
Speaker 4: We can be in the house. Yeah that's exactly Wait,
Speaker 4: I'm making up rules for your partner.
Speaker 6: I know.
Speaker 2: I'm like, why would you say that?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, we can be in the living room right.
Speaker 4: Good to see you again, buddy, So good to see you.
Speaker 2: Yeah that was so fun day.
Speaker 5: Thank you for being like you.
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