Speaker 1: You want to drip dopamine, don't dump it because when
Speaker 1: you dump it with the fries and the alcohol the porn,
Speaker 1: you don't have much laught And so then you have
Speaker 1: to go back and do it again. And all of
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Speaker 1: And today's guest is someone who is the first guest
Speaker 1: whoever has been on the podcast twice and now the
Speaker 1: first guest who's ever been on the podcast three times,
Speaker 1: which shows us how much you all love him and
Speaker 1: how much I really appreciate all his insights and guidance
Speaker 1: as well. He's my go to person whenever I hear
Speaker 1: about a new treatment or a new therapy or a
Speaker 1: new whatever it may be. I'm texting this person saying, Hey,
Speaker 1: what do you think about this? Like? What do you
Speaker 1: think about this? And I really appreciate he lives in
Speaker 1: extremely holistic life, from a spiritual point of view, from
Speaker 1: a scientific point of view, and having someone that I
Speaker 1: can ask these questions too openly helps me. So I
Speaker 1: hope today helps you. I'm speaking about the one and
Speaker 1: only Doctor Daniel Aymon. Doctor Aman's mission is to end
Speaker 1: mental illness by creating a revolution in brain health. Doctor
Speaker 1: Amen is a physician, adult and child psychiatrist and founder
Speaker 1: of the Ayman Clinics, with ten locations across the US.
Speaker 1: Aiman Clinics has the world's largest database of brain scans
Speaker 1: for psychiatry, totaling more than two hundred thousand spec scans
Speaker 1: on patients from one hundred and fifty five countries. He's
Speaker 1: also the founder of brain MD, a fast growing science
Speaker 1: based company, and Aymon University, which has trained thousands of
Speaker 1: medical and mental health professionals on the methods he has developed.
Speaker 1: Doctor Amen is not new to books or TV. He's
Speaker 1: produced over sixteen national public television shows about the brain,
Speaker 1: and his online videos on brain and mental health have
Speaker 1: been viewed over three hundred million times. And Doctor Raymond
Speaker 1: is a twelve time New York Times best selling author.
Speaker 1: I've got a long way to catch up, and today
Speaker 1: we're talking about his latest book. It's called You Happier,
Speaker 1: The Seven neuroscience Secrets of Feeling Good based on your
Speaker 1: brain type. This is the book I want you to
Speaker 1: go and get. The link is in the caption right now,
Speaker 1: Doctor Daniel Ayman, thank you so much for being here.
Speaker 1: Thank you for allowing me to have you in my
Speaker 1: pocket at all times to be able to text you
Speaker 1: and ask you weird and wonderful questions, and most of all,
Speaker 1: thank you for being just you know, such a such
Speaker 1: a kind, warmheyed person who who always brings their best
Speaker 1: energy to serve others. So thank you for being here. Well,
Speaker 1: it makes me happy to be with you, you know.
Speaker 1: I think of happiness as a daily practice, and appreciating
Speaker 1: the people you love is just critical to it. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: and I really appreciate you. You you said you were
Speaker 1: happy to be here when we were just filming a
Speaker 1: seconds ago, and then you're telling me that I looked good,
Speaker 1: and I was saying to you, it's because I've been
Speaker 1: doing all the right things and following your advice. And
Speaker 1: I remember, I think it was our second interview, not
Speaker 1: our first one, our second interview. I was saying to you, like,
Speaker 1: I have only one cheat day a week now, and
Speaker 1: you just look to me and you were like, well,
Speaker 1: you know why they call it a cheat day, right,
Speaker 1: And I didn't. I was like, what do you mean?
Speaker 1: And you were like, yeah, because you're cheating your brain,
Speaker 1: like you know, and you gave this beautiful explanation, and
Speaker 1: I was thinking, you always have these things that you
Speaker 1: say that stick with me, and if anyone doesn't follow
Speaker 1: doctor Dannie Lemon on Instagram, make sure you're go and
Speaker 1: follow him because I love how you post the brain
Speaker 1: scans of beforrees and afters of on a certain drug
Speaker 1: and without a certain drug, on weed, without weed, Like
Speaker 1: I just think that the way you communicate brain health
Speaker 1: is fantastic and so great for my generation the generation
Speaker 1: after me. I think we have so much to learn
Speaker 1: from you. So thank you for what you're doing and
Speaker 1: how you're doing it too, and always makes me happy
Speaker 1: to see you and your wife as well. And this
Speaker 1: has probably been the longest I haven't seen you since
Speaker 1: you scan my brain. So that was so much fun.
Speaker 1: That was so much fun. I was very relieved to
Speaker 1: know that my brain was doing all right, so well.
Speaker 1: And when you see it, you develop a relationship with
Speaker 1: it and you want it to be better and it's
Speaker 1: hard to hurt it once you see it. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: so true, and it's it's crazy to me that we
Speaker 1: don't get exposed to our brains, like you don't ever
Speaker 1: see your brain, which we use every day, that works
Speaker 1: for us every day, and you have no access to
Speaker 1: it apart from see your body, you see you know,
Speaker 1: different organs maybe sometimes with the brain's not talked about
Speaker 1: a lot. What is our brain? What does it do?
Speaker 1: And how do we develop a relationship with it? Because
Speaker 1: I feel that people are very confused with what is
Speaker 1: the brain? What is the mind? You know, what does
Speaker 1: it do? What does it not do? I think there's
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff out there. How would you describe it? Well,
Speaker 1: it's very clear to me after all the scans I've
Speaker 1: done that your brain, the physical functioning of your brain,
Speaker 1: the moment by moment physical functioning of your brain, creates
Speaker 1: your mind. And if your brain's not right, your mind's
Speaker 1: not right. And there are a lot of spiritual teachers
Speaker 1: that'll separate the mind from the brain, but you can't
Speaker 1: because just think of Alzheimer's disease. You know, very damaged brains,
Speaker 1: and they're very damaged minds that go I mean people
Speaker 1: that act in ways they never act if their brain
Speaker 1: was healthy, that they don't remember people that they're deeply
Speaker 1: in love with. And so if we want a healthy mind,
Speaker 1: it actually starts with a healthy brain. And you know,
Speaker 1: I've had the blessing or the curse to scan over
Speaker 1: a thousand convicted felons and over one hundred murderers, and
Speaker 1: their brains are very damaged. So if your behavior is
Speaker 1: so bad you end up in a cage, and they're
Speaker 1: not thinking, Oh, I have to understand, evaluate, rehabilitate that
Speaker 1: person's brain, and then that better and that helps all
Speaker 1: of us stuff. Staefsky once said, you can tell about
Speaker 1: the soul of a society not by how it treats
Speaker 1: its outstanding citizens, but by how it treats its criminals.
Speaker 1: And it's you know, when I first started scanning people,
Speaker 1: I didn't really have an opinion on the death penalty.
Speaker 1: I just really hadn't thought about it. I thought of
Speaker 1: free will as black or white, you have it or
Speaker 1: you don't. And then as my work became known, defense
Speaker 1: attorneys would send me people did really bad things and
Speaker 1: their brains were so damaged. And when I would go
Speaker 1: to court and a lot of people hated me for that.
Speaker 1: You know, if you have a bad brain, you did
Speaker 1: something terrible, you don't get to go home. But should
Speaker 1: you kill them? I mean, it's a really important question,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, no, you know, it's not the sign
Speaker 1: of an evolved society to kill sick people. I mean,
Speaker 1: you have to protect society from them. But what I've
Speaker 1: seen is if we rehabilitate their brain, they can have
Speaker 1: a meaningful life. And people just aren't connecting. It's your brain.
Speaker 1: It's easy to call people bad, it's harder to go
Speaker 1: why and oh can I fix it? What are the
Speaker 1: things that damage our brains? Because I think what we
Speaker 1: find is we often think like, oh, that person was
Speaker 1: totally normal and then one day they just changed, or
Speaker 1: we say things like oh, yeah, if you just met them,
Speaker 1: like they were just quiet and calm, like you would
Speaker 1: never have noticed anything, and then they did this horrific thing.
Speaker 1: Like what are those habits? What are those patterns that
Speaker 1: start damaging our brain? Because I don't think we're aware,
Speaker 1: As you said, we never see our brain, we don't
Speaker 1: really talk about it, we don't really know much about it.
Speaker 1: What are the things we do since birth that damage
Speaker 1: our brains that could lead to something as extreme as that? Well,
Speaker 1: even before birth, yes, So since marijuana has been legalized
Speaker 1: in many states, babies born with marijuana in their bodies
Speaker 1: has gone up seventeen hundred percent. I mean it's a
Speaker 1: ridiculous amount. So even before you're born, what happens in
Speaker 1: utero can damage the trajectory of your life. They have
Speaker 1: more behavior problems, they have more attention problems, they have
Speaker 1: less empathy for other people. And then you know, as
Speaker 1: you go through life, the standard American diet is damaging brains.
Speaker 1: You know, you talked about how healthy your diet has been.
Speaker 1: I follow this guy on TikTok. For some reason, my
Speaker 1: TikTok's has gone crazy. And he looked at his blood
Speaker 1: sugar before and after pop tarts, and pop tarts was
Speaker 1: like the worst thing he looked at, almost worse than
Speaker 1: Coca cola. But what are we feeding children? I mean,
Speaker 1: in public school free lunches, pop tarts, which means we're
Speaker 1: damaging their blood sugar levels, we're damaging their weight, and
Speaker 1: we're damaging their brain. And I have a mnemonic called
Speaker 1: bright Minds which helps me remember, you know, like B
Speaker 1: is for blood flow. Low blood flow number one brain
Speaker 1: imaging predictor of Alzheimer's disease. So Netflix right, not in
Speaker 1: front of the TV too often, not exercising. That damage
Speaker 1: is your brain. Probably the number one thing that causes
Speaker 1: brain trouble. Your brain is soft. About the consistency of
Speaker 1: soft butter, your skull is really hard and has sharp
Speaker 1: bony ridges. Mild traumatic brain injuries ruined people's lives. If
Speaker 1: you said, hey, Daniel, single most important thing from two
Speaker 1: hundred and ten thousand scans, mild traumatic brain injuries. Don't
Speaker 1: let your kids physical right from snowboarding, falling off a horse, football, soccer,
Speaker 1: physical abuse will do it. Falls, car accidents, you know,
Speaker 1: and people are texting and driving and texting and walking.
Speaker 1: And there's three million new concussions every year in the
Speaker 1: United States, which means over the last thirty years there
Speaker 1: have been ninety million people that have had concussions. It's
Speaker 1: very common and a common cause of depression, homelessness, addiction, suicide,
Speaker 1: panic attacks ADHD. Wow. Yeah, I mean, when you spell
Speaker 1: it out that clearly, I think what I love about
Speaker 1: you is I think the two times I have done
Speaker 1: an intervide and then when I was with you, I
Speaker 1: just go away going, oh, I need to so I
Speaker 1: need to do something for my brain. I need to
Speaker 1: figure it out right, and it's it's a good thing.
Speaker 1: Like I enjoyed that healthy sense of an awakening and
Speaker 1: a healthy sense of fear because I think we are
Speaker 1: so scared of being scared in society today, like we
Speaker 1: don't want to listen to the truth because it's scary,
Speaker 1: it's inconvenient. It forces us to change something. If someone
Speaker 1: could do something starting tomorrow, what is the thing that
Speaker 1: someone could do waking up tomorrow that could be better
Speaker 1: for their brain? What would you say that is? Well,
Speaker 1: you know and you're happier. I talk a lot about
Speaker 1: the tiny habits, the smallest things that will make the
Speaker 1: biggest difference and brain and mental health. It's a daily practice,
Speaker 1: just like physical health. Right, as I said, you look
Speaker 1: really great. That's a daily practice. Right. You just don't
Speaker 1: do that one day a week, you do it every day.
Speaker 1: If you want a really great brain and a really
Speaker 1: great mind, their habits every day. And some of my
Speaker 1: favorite every day is as good for my brain or
Speaker 1: bad for it? I just like when my daughter, she
Speaker 1: turned nineteen yesterday, and when she was little, we played
Speaker 1: Chloe's game, and Chloe's game was is this good for
Speaker 1: your brain or bad for it? Frozen blueberries, Oh, two
Speaker 1: thumbs up, God's candy or avocados, Oh, two thumbs up,
Speaker 1: God's butter. Hitting your head with a soccer ball no,
Speaker 1: very stupid, thumbs down. Right, And so just playing with
Speaker 1: her with that question that takes three seconds, right, I mean,
Speaker 1: it's doesn't take long, and people go what's good and
Speaker 1: what's bad? Second graders know it. I went into our
Speaker 1: second grade class, put twenty things on the board and
Speaker 1: I went separate them for me, and they got nineteen
Speaker 1: out of twenty right. So I got a ninety five percent.
Speaker 1: And the only thing they got wrong was orange juice,
Speaker 1: which they put in the good category, which is like
Speaker 1: way too much. Sure, And so whenever you unwrap sugar
Speaker 1: from its fiber source, right, turn fruit into juice, it
Speaker 1: turns toxic in your body. So you have to be
Speaker 1: really careful with that. So that's one. Two. Whenever you
Speaker 1: wake up in the morning, today is going to be
Speaker 1: a great day, you have to nudge your brain right.
Speaker 1: We have a conscious mind, we have an unconscious mind.
Speaker 1: We have a self image, and your subconscious is paying
Speaker 1: attention to the words that the conscious mind is sane.
Speaker 1: And so if you're like, oh, I don't want to
Speaker 1: get out of bed, today is going to be a
Speaker 1: bad day, You're gonna have a bad day because you
Speaker 1: just programmed your subconscious mind to do that. Every day
Speaker 1: when my feet hit the floor. Today is going to
Speaker 1: be a great day. And then my favorite of all
Speaker 1: of them is when you go to bed at night,
Speaker 1: and bed is so important because if you want to
Speaker 1: have a good day, it starts the night before. Is
Speaker 1: what went well today? So when I go to bed,
Speaker 1: I say a prayer and then I go what went well?
Speaker 1: And I go on a treasure hunt because I'm purposefully
Speaker 1: looking for what are the right things that happened? And
Speaker 1: I look for the micro moments, you know, like what's
Speaker 1: the smallest thing. And for me, where I live, I
Speaker 1: see a lot of hummingbirds and butterflies and I just
Speaker 1: focus on them. And I've been doing this for years
Speaker 1: and it's so helpful. And about two and a half
Speaker 1: years ago, my dad died and it was an awful,
Speaker 1: awful day. And when I went to bed that night,
Speaker 1: I said a prayer and they went what went well today?
Speaker 1: And then the voice in my head, you know, started
Speaker 1: criticizing me, like you're a bad kid and you don't
Speaker 1: love your dad and whatever. But because it's my habit,
Speaker 1: I went what went well today? And I saw this
Speaker 1: interaction between my mother and the police officer, and it
Speaker 1: was so funny and so beautiful that it just made
Speaker 1: me smile. And then I thought of all the texts
Speaker 1: I got from my friends who found out about my dad,
Speaker 1: and that was peaceful. And then I just thought about
Speaker 1: holding his hand before they took him away, and I
Speaker 1: went to sleep because I'm mastering my mind and not
Speaker 1: being a victim of the situation didn't mean I didn't grieve.
Speaker 1: I still grieve, I still miss him, But it's these
Speaker 1: habits like every day to direct my mind to help
Speaker 1: me while taking care of my brain. Yeah, I love
Speaker 1: those practical tools because in effect, what we're trying to
Speaker 1: do is change our thought pattern. Right, we have a pattern,
Speaker 1: as you said, to wake up and say I'm tired,
Speaker 1: and we put it on snooze, and then we get
Speaker 1: up and then we're having breakfast and we're like, I'm
Speaker 1: still tired. And then we get to lunchtime and we're
Speaker 1: like looking at the clock and we're like, I'm still tired.
Speaker 1: And then by the end then I'm still tired. But
Speaker 1: then we're up at midnight watching Netflix or whatever it
Speaker 1: may be, saying I'm still tired, and then that becomes
Speaker 1: our reality that we just continue to feed that fatigue
Speaker 1: and we're just more and more and more tired. Whereas
Speaker 1: when you nudge your brain in a different direction, as
Speaker 1: you said, and you said today is going to be
Speaker 1: a great day, you now start making great choices because
Speaker 1: you want it to be a great day. But what
Speaker 1: I love about what you've defined, and this is different
Speaker 1: and I appreciate it, is that you don't talk about
Speaker 1: positive thinking. You talk about accurate thinking as being a
Speaker 1: healthier way to live. And I really like that clarification
Speaker 1: because I think the positive thinking approach can also be
Speaker 1: quite toxic. Like you just said about your father, it's
Speaker 1: not that you didn't feel grief, it's not that you
Speaker 1: don't miss him like of course, those are very real
Speaker 1: human emotions, but you know how to direct them. Can
Speaker 1: you clarify for our audience today, what is the difference
Speaker 1: between accurate thinking and positive thinking? Well, positive thinking is
Speaker 1: I can have this third beer and it won't negatively
Speaker 1: impact me. Or I can drive in one hundred and
Speaker 1: twenty five miles down the freeway and the rain and
Speaker 1: it won't hurt me. Positive thinking is I can stay
Speaker 1: up and be on my phone until two in the
Speaker 1: morning and it won't have a negative impact. They do
Speaker 1: this great study out of Stanford lewis Terman nineteen twenty
Speaker 1: one evaluated fourteen hundred and fifty three ten year old
Speaker 1: children and then they followed them for ninety years. Look
Speaker 1: it what goes with success, health and longevity. And then
Speaker 1: don't worry be happy people. Actually, in the beginning of
Speaker 1: the book, I talk about the lies of happiness, and
Speaker 1: this is one of the lies. Don't worry be happy.
Speaker 1: They died the earliest from accidents and preventable illnesses. I
Speaker 1: have an older brother, and I adore him, but he's
Speaker 1: like a hundred and fifty pounds overweight. I always sort
Speaker 1: of wanted to be like him because I'm intense and
Speaker 1: I work hard and I've always got projects, and he's
Speaker 1: like off at three o'clock playing golf, and you know,
Speaker 1: he just seemed to not have a care in the world.
Speaker 1: But my health is so much better than his because
Speaker 1: I worry about it. And so you want to have
Speaker 1: the right dose of anxiety. People with low levels of
Speaker 1: anxiety go to jail because they don't like think, oh,
Speaker 1: if I do this, bad thing could happen. But obviously
Speaker 1: too much makes you suffer. And I love the verse
Speaker 1: in the New Testament John A thirty two. Know the truth,
Speaker 1: and the truth will set you free. And I want
Speaker 1: to live my life in truth. So I want to
Speaker 1: tell myself always, So what's the truth? So if I
Speaker 1: think Tanna never listens to me, I'm like, well, is
Speaker 1: that true? Right? It's another little habit right to always
Speaker 1: carry around those three words. I don't have any tattoos,
Speaker 1: but if I did, is it true would be one
Speaker 1: of the tattoos. Because I don't want to believe everything
Speaker 1: I think, and that's very important. Your mind creates trouble.
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Speaker 1: they come from all sorts of places. They come from
Speaker 1: your ancestors. They're actually written into your genetic code. I
Speaker 1: don't know if you ever read the book. It didn't
Speaker 1: start with you, Yes, of course that's amazing. I love
Speaker 1: that book. And trauma and successes actually get written in
Speaker 1: our genetic code, and our thoughts come from the voices
Speaker 1: of our moms, our dads, our siblings, our friends, foes,
Speaker 1: the news you listen to, which, by the way, is
Speaker 1: no longer the news anymore. Let's just be really clear.
Speaker 1: They bastardize that industry, and it's about tribalism and money
Speaker 1: and it's not about news. I start every day with
Speaker 1: the Good News Network. It's just a cool app. I
Speaker 1: have no financial interest in it. I just love it.
Speaker 1: I'm always smiling, you know, sending articles to my kids.
Speaker 1: And the music you listen to. I actually did his
Speaker 1: study on rap, country, rock, and classical music and heavy metal.
Speaker 1: We did a memory task with high school students, and
Speaker 1: heavy metal was the worst, Classical was the best. The
Speaker 1: second best was country, which shocked usted retted rat Foil
Speaker 1: in their right behind heavy metal. Oh wow wow. Because
Speaker 1: that's why one of the biggest forms of music today's rapping,
Speaker 1: hip hop and music so influences how we feel, and
Speaker 1: so you want to be careful with the inputs because
Speaker 1: you might not think they matter, but your subconscious minds listening. Yeah. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: Well that's why I want to ask you. This is
Speaker 1: really interesting to me because so I've been listening to
Speaker 1: jazz in the car. Now, jazz is my new. Jazz
Speaker 1: is my new. I usually don't listen to anything. I
Speaker 1: usually just talk to myself when I drive. That's been
Speaker 1: like my habit for years. Is I see driving as
Speaker 1: a moment of spending more time with myself, So I
Speaker 1: generally drive to nothing. But when me and my wife
Speaker 1: are in the car together, we both like music, and
Speaker 1: recently we've been listening to jazz music together. But what
Speaker 1: I find really interesting about what you just said is
Speaker 1: that there's a difference between what feels good and what
Speaker 1: is good for you. So someone may say I feel
Speaker 1: good when I eat junk food, when I listen to
Speaker 1: music that isn't good for my brain, and when I drink,
Speaker 1: but when I miss out on that meal, I don't
Speaker 1: feel good. When I choose classical music, I don't feel good.
Speaker 1: And when I choose to eat healthy and maybe don't
Speaker 1: drink as much, I don't feel good. And so what
Speaker 1: I'm fascinated by is our relationship with feeling a certain
Speaker 1: way versus being a certain way. So when I started
Speaker 1: to have to remove refine sugar from my diet, which
Speaker 1: my wife encouraged me to do, I didn't feel good
Speaker 1: about that, Like that was painful. I didn't enjoy that
Speaker 1: feeling in my mind right. Or when I started to
Speaker 1: go to the gym every day or hike where I
Speaker 1: hike outside every day now and when I'm working out,
Speaker 1: I don't feel good about it, but it's good for me.
Speaker 1: So I started to discover that the things that are
Speaker 1: actually good for me don't always feel good. So how
Speaker 1: do you approach the idea of feeling a certain way?
Speaker 1: Because I feel like everything that I do that's good
Speaker 1: for me, I didn't feel good about when I started
Speaker 1: doing it. Now I choose it because now there's because
Speaker 1: you're getting the benefit of correct the benefits. I'm also
Speaker 1: feeling the pattern shift now if I eat so I
Speaker 1: still get a craving for junk food. I still have
Speaker 1: that craving sometimes and maybe once a month now I'll
Speaker 1: be like, all right, I'm gonna have a burger, Like
Speaker 1: I'm gonna eat, you know, like a burger and fries
Speaker 1: and whatever, And now I don't like the taste of it.
Speaker 1: Like after I feel really regretful, and I'm like, I
Speaker 1: didn't even like that. I need to remember that. Then
Speaker 1: now I've changed my tastes, so now it's changed, So
Speaker 1: tell it. Talk to me a bit about that, Like
Speaker 1: why do we always want to feel happy and feel
Speaker 1: good but we don't often make the right decisions. Secret
Speaker 1: number four is love food that loves you back, and
Speaker 1: you're in a relationship. I want you to love what
Speaker 1: you eat, but I also want it to love you.
Speaker 1: And so if you're in love with alcohol and alcohol
Speaker 1: is clearly toxic to your brain for so many reasons,
Speaker 1: brain and your body, then it's sort of like you're
Speaker 1: in an abusive relationship. And you know, I just want
Speaker 1: people to think about what do you really want? Do
Speaker 1: you want that mountain of fries or that swimming pool
Speaker 1: of alcohol? Or do you want energy? Do you want clarity?
Speaker 1: Do you want memory? Do you want vitality? Do you
Speaker 1: want creativity? And ultimately what I want is I want
Speaker 1: to feel good and I want to be good and
Speaker 1: I want to do good and that comes from a
Speaker 1: brain and body that work, right, So I don't want
Speaker 1: to feel good now but not later. Right, that's a
Speaker 1: four year old's mindset. I want to feel good now
Speaker 1: and later. So the things I do day in and
Speaker 1: day I love now. It just it takes a while
Speaker 1: sometimes to change your habits. The brain is lazy. It
Speaker 1: just wants to do what you've allowed it to do.
Speaker 1: So what you said is just so beautiful. It's like, well,
Speaker 1: I still get the cravings and I'll give in and
Speaker 1: then I'm like, oh, why did I do that? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's because then I just I just don't feel awesome.
Speaker 1: So for that momentary pleasure, it's like, well, is it
Speaker 1: worth it? Does it fit? So another tattoo I'm going
Speaker 1: to get some day? Does it fit? So? I recommend
Speaker 1: this is actually a part of Secret seven Live each
Speaker 1: Day based on clearly defined values, purpose and goals and
Speaker 1: quite frankly hedonism. It's not on my goal list. It's
Speaker 1: it's not in my value list and hedonism. So giving
Speaker 1: in to every craving I have is the enemy of
Speaker 1: happiness because it ends up wearing out your dopamine or
Speaker 1: pleasure centers in your brain. And I always talk about
Speaker 1: you want to drip dopamine, don't dump it, because when
Speaker 1: you dump it with the fries and the alcohol the porn,
Speaker 1: you don't have much left, and so then you have
Speaker 1: to go back and do it again, and all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, chemicals are controlling you rather than you are
Speaker 1: controlling you. The dopamine gets so addictive, and as you said,
Speaker 1: with the pleasure centers, now we're having to the same
Speaker 1: amount of what we had doesn't even fulfilled the amount
Speaker 1: of pleasures that we have to have more to hit
Speaker 1: the same amount of pleasure. As far as I understand,
Speaker 1: is that correct? Like, it's absolutely true, and fame wears
Speaker 1: out the pleasure enters in your brain. And I've been blessed.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm friends with you, justin Miley, and and
Speaker 1: you know, we talk about this over and over again,
Speaker 1: how fame is just such a trap because you know once,
Speaker 1: you know, like I had a video go viral and
Speaker 1: it's like forty million views, and I'm like so exciting,
Speaker 1: and so when the next one gets eight million views,
Speaker 1: you're like, well that sucked, and you realize just you know,
Speaker 1: how stupid that is. You have to be very careful
Speaker 1: and you want to drip dopamine. How do you drip dopamine?
Speaker 1: How does someone do that? Let's say someone who's not
Speaker 1: getting forty million views, eight million views, but they're posting
Speaker 1: on social media, they're eating a burger, they're having that
Speaker 1: glass of you know, alcohol every night. Whatever it may be, like,
Speaker 1: how does someone learn to I love that idea. I'm thinking,
Speaker 1: how does someone practically drip dopamine? Because that's really it's
Speaker 1: the micro moments of how so for me, I mean,
Speaker 1: it's like holding Tana's hand and then but noticing and
Speaker 1: feeling her skin and feeling the warmth, the softness its
Speaker 1: It's like being present, being connected, or seeing the humming bird,
Speaker 1: watching the sunrise or the sunset, depending on where you live.
Speaker 1: It's being present, noticing what you like way more than
Speaker 1: what you don't like. Plus sunlight, drips dopamine, pumpkin seeds
Speaker 1: drip dopamine, Omega three fatty acids. I just gave you
Speaker 1: a present of our vegan Omega three as I know
Speaker 1: you're vegan and people have been wanting it for so long.
Speaker 1: But all the vegan Omega three's they don't have EPA
Speaker 1: in them. So Omega three's there's EPA and dha. They're
Speaker 1: almost all dha. But EPA is critical for mood, for focus,
Speaker 1: for circulation, and it's the first product on the market
Speaker 1: that I know of that is just loaded with the
Speaker 1: right balance of omega Three's what is the difference between
Speaker 1: ep and DJA. They work on different systems in the body.
Speaker 1: Both of them are absolutely essential, and they're essential, which
Speaker 1: means you got to get them from an outside source.
Speaker 1: Your body doesn't make them, and people who are vegan,
Speaker 1: it's really hard to get healthy EPA and DHA levels
Speaker 1: from flax seeds and avocados, for example. No, I can't
Speaker 1: wait to start taking them. I'm really excited. What am
Speaker 1: I gonna notice? What's going to be? Like your skin's
Speaker 1: already good, But your skin, your hair, your nails, that's
Speaker 1: the things people notice. But their mood is better. Brand
Speaker 1: new study out just today Omega three fatty acids helped
Speaker 1: decrease the incidence of depression. Also helps with focus and
Speaker 1: helps with memory. It's just critical because they make up
Speaker 1: the fats in twenty five percent of nerve cell membranes
Speaker 1: in your brain. I mean, that's hugely important. The reason
Speaker 1: why I find is so fascinating that I think so
Speaker 1: many of us are trying to solve a mental challenge
Speaker 1: when actually it's a physical, brain tangible challenge. Right, Like
Speaker 1: I'll meet a lot of people who are saying, genn't
Speaker 1: feel focused, I feel cloudy, I feel no energy, I
Speaker 1: feel lethargic. What do I do to get motivated? And
Speaker 1: it's like, well, no, no, no, the motivation is not
Speaker 1: the issue. It's like you're dealing with a lot of
Speaker 1: other stuff physically tangibly that could be solved, and then
Speaker 1: with good values, good purpose, good goals, you can actually
Speaker 1: go in the right direction. But just having a good
Speaker 1: set of goals and targets and values is not going
Speaker 1: to solve the fact that your body is crying out
Speaker 1: for attention. And I think I was definitely in that
Speaker 1: space for a long time in my life. I like
Speaker 1: had such a strong mind that I didn't realize how
Speaker 1: much I was weakening my brain, and that actually, if
Speaker 1: I strengthened my brain, my mind was even stronger, my
Speaker 1: body was even better, and you know, it was all interconnected.
Speaker 1: And so for anyone who's who's listening to this, I
Speaker 1: want you to remember that if you've got an energy issue,
Speaker 1: a fatigue issue, a focus issue, like this is the
Speaker 1: podcast for you, Like, this is what I want you
Speaker 1: to listen to, because chances are it's because you're missing
Speaker 1: out on some of this stuff, like there's there's a
Speaker 1: part of your diet or something that's not going into
Speaker 1: your body. Well, and if you think of it like
Speaker 1: hardware and software, yes, the setting goals which is so important,
Speaker 1: and not believing every stupid thing you think, which we'll
Speaker 1: talk about, is so important. But those are software programs
Speaker 1: and you've got to have the hardware that will run it.
Speaker 1: Plus I hate the termamental illness, you know, and I've
Speaker 1: talked about that before. It's it's not men till its brain.
Speaker 1: And when you call someone mental, you shame them. When
Speaker 1: you call them a brain, you elevate them. So we
Speaker 1: need to change the discussion. And mental illness is in right,
Speaker 1: everybody's talking about their mental illness, but it's the wrong discussion.
Speaker 1: The discussion is about brain hell, and yes, you have
Speaker 1: to program it. But what's happening in our society now.
Speaker 1: It's one of the reasons I wrote the book We're
Speaker 1: the unhappiest we've been since the Great Depression. That depression
Speaker 1: tripled from February of twenty twenty to August of twenty twenty, unbelievable,
Speaker 1: never seen anything like that, and children suicide skyrocketed depression, anxiety,
Speaker 1: rug abuse skyrocketed and children, and it's like the pharmaceutical
Speaker 1: industry is winning that the incidents of anti depressants, anti
Speaker 1: anxiety medications like xanax when of twenty percent and teenagers.
Speaker 1: That is a nightmare because it's the wrong solution. And
Speaker 1: I'm not opposed to medicines. This never the first thing
Speaker 1: I think about. It's like, let's get your brain and
Speaker 1: your habits right and then we'll see what you need.
Speaker 1: And more than half the people taking medicine really don't
Speaker 1: need it. Last year, three hundred and thirty seven million
Speaker 1: prescriptions for antidepressants in the United States. That's insane. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's alarming. I think we've all experienced it in little
Speaker 1: microdoses of our family, our friends, the news, But then
Speaker 1: when you hear it as a collective, it's super painful.
Speaker 1: I mean, how does a society that's going through so
Speaker 1: much pain, how do we collectively heal? Because that's like
Speaker 1: that we're further behind because of the pandemic. It's like
Speaker 1: it was already tough. Now we're really dealing with it.
Speaker 1: Someone's dealing with a friend or family member or someone
Speaker 1: in their life who's going through that it can feel
Speaker 1: overwhelming for anyone like not everyone's a trained psychiatrist. No,
Speaker 1: everyone's trained as a therapist to be able to support
Speaker 1: that kind of individual. Where would you suggest someone starts
Speaker 1: if someone in their life is really spiraling or struggling, Well,
Speaker 1: I would start by following me on TikTok or Instagram
Speaker 1: or you Happier or the end of mental illness there is.
Speaker 1: This is a completely new way to think. And I
Speaker 1: dedicated my book The End of Mental Illness to my
Speaker 1: nieces and right at the beginning of the pandemic. We
Speaker 1: adopted them because their mom and dad couldn't stop using drugs.
Speaker 1: And I am so proud of them because of how
Speaker 1: well they're doing by just getting the right supervision, the
Speaker 1: right love, the right food, and the right habits. Now
Speaker 1: they grew up in trauma. Do you know that ACE
Speaker 1: test Adverse Childhood Experience? We should talk about it. It's
Speaker 1: a test and originally done by the CDC and Kaiser,
Speaker 1: and it's ten questions on did you experience early childhood trauma?
Speaker 1: So things like physical abuse, emotional abuse, sexual abuse, parents
Speaker 1: who divorced, parents who were addicted, incarcerated. You watched one
Speaker 1: of your parents being beaten in domestic violence. Okay, so
Speaker 1: ten of these questions. So how do you score? Do
Speaker 1: you score zero, like you had no trauma? I score one.
Speaker 1: My wife is an eight because she grew up in
Speaker 1: trauma and she wrote about it in her book, The
Speaker 1: Relentless Courage of a Scared Child The nieces we adopted.
Speaker 1: It's a nine. If you score four or more, you
Speaker 1: have an increased risk of seven of the top ten
Speaker 1: leading causes of death. If you score six or more,
Speaker 1: you have a twelve hundred percent increased risk of killing yourself.
Speaker 1: You have a higher risk of depression, addiction, virtually every
Speaker 1: bad health thing. And our daughter is one. So eight
Speaker 1: to one that's the goal, right, How do you take
Speaker 1: your trauma? Heal it and not give it to the
Speaker 1: next generation. And when I met Tanna, I just dearly
Speaker 1: loved her. I mean, she's beautiful, she's smart, she's awesome.
Speaker 1: But when I learned about the trauma, I gave her
Speaker 1: ten sessions of EMDR. It's a specific psychological treatment for
Speaker 1: trauma and stands for eye movement, desensitization and reprocessing. She
Speaker 1: ended up going for a year because there are a
Speaker 1: lot of stuff to work out, but change the trajectory
Speaker 1: of her life. She's like my best friend. We like
Speaker 1: never fight, we get along. We have the same goals.
Speaker 1: We don't live out of the past. We live out
Speaker 1: of the present and what we want for the future.
Speaker 1: And so many people live with trauma and they're living
Speaker 1: being controlled by the traumatized eight year old in their
Speaker 1: lives when they don't have to be, and so part
Speaker 1: of being happy is dissipating the traumas from the past.
Speaker 1: Why can people do that test? That sounds fascinating the way,
Speaker 1: so they can go online and just search for adverse
Speaker 1: childhood experiences. NPR has a free version of it online
Speaker 1: and you pretty much know once you take it. How
Speaker 1: long does it take to do? Just like three minutes.
Speaker 1: Super it's just ten questions and it's basically yes or no.
Speaker 1: But you know, if you're four or more getting help
Speaker 1: and EMDR is so cool. I want to hear more
Speaker 1: about it. I'm so glad you raised it because I
Speaker 1: was like, I've I've had a few clients i'm coaching
Speaker 1: right now and they've been working with someone else in
Speaker 1: the MDR space. Obviously that's not my expertise, but yeah,
Speaker 1: I wanted to get your thoughts on it, Like explain
Speaker 1: if anyone who doesn't know what is the EMDR not
Speaker 1: the name, but like what is it as a practice?
Speaker 1: So what you do, it's it's actually an eight step
Speaker 1: practice as you take a good history and you're looking for,
Speaker 1: like what are the top ten traumas you've had in
Speaker 1: your life? And you do this with a you do
Speaker 1: it with a therapist, with somebody who's trained and certified
Speaker 1: in it. Then you begin to target, so what's the
Speaker 1: worst one, and what's the negative belief with that, and
Speaker 1: what's the positive belief that you would rather believe, and
Speaker 1: where do you feel it in your body? And so
Speaker 1: you hold that image and then imagine just being on
Speaker 1: a train, and we get your eyes to go back
Speaker 1: and forth, or sometimes they'll do alternate tapping on your knees,
Speaker 1: or there's a thing called the butterfly hug to do alternately.
Speaker 1: While you bring that up and while you're on the train,
Speaker 1: you just sort of see where it goes, and it'll
Speaker 1: often go to the early traumas, heighten them. But then
Speaker 1: with the eye movements, it helps the brain integrate it
Speaker 1: from an adult perspective rather than living as a four
Speaker 1: year old's perspective, and it takes the distress from like
Speaker 1: an eight or nine out of ten to zero. And
Speaker 1: it's so cool, and it's one of the fastest therapies
Speaker 1: because a lot of times people go to a therapist
Speaker 1: and they'll talk about the trauma and they just feel
Speaker 1: worse because what they've done is they've brought it up.
Speaker 1: They'd like say, subconscious, let's pay attention to these awful
Speaker 1: things you've been trying to forget. But it's the integration.
Speaker 1: And I did a study that we published in the
Speaker 1: Journal of Neurse Psychiatry and Clinical Neurosciences, a great journal
Speaker 1: on eight police officers who were involved in shootings and
Speaker 1: they couldn't go back to work because they were traumatized.
Speaker 1: Because you know, whatever you think about the police, I
Speaker 1: work with a lot of police officers. Most of them
Speaker 1: are just kind carrying, service oriented people and they don't
Speaker 1: want to hurt anybody, and so they were devastated couldn't
Speaker 1: go back to work. I scanned them and in their
Speaker 1: brain there's a pattern for trauma where their emotional brain
Speaker 1: was working too hard, and after an average of eight sessions,
Speaker 1: their brain had calmed down and they all went back
Speaker 1: to work with the MDR. Wow and so. And with
Speaker 1: the MDR, there's no you're not under anything, there's no substance.
Speaker 1: It's just now. And in fact, I'm just sitting down
Speaker 1: talking to you. I began. I made this connection because
Speaker 1: what psychedelics do, and people asking me about that all
Speaker 1: the time. Now I'm not a fan of it um
Speaker 1: because I think it's risky and I get to see
Speaker 1: the fallout of people doing it, they have bad trips.
Speaker 1: What psychedelics do is they begin to fill in some
Speaker 1: of the holes in the ruts in your brain. Like
Speaker 1: you know, if you've been traumatized and imbad ombad ombad
Speaker 1: or it's my fault, it's my fault, my fault. It
Speaker 1: can help dissipate that for some people, but they're side effects.
Speaker 1: With the MDR, there's no side effects and you come
Speaker 1: out of it freer. So my first experience with EMDR.
Speaker 1: So what I do in my profession is, you know,
Speaker 1: I've often said I've been bleeding on the cutting edge
Speaker 1: because psychiatrist don't look at the brain, which is completely insane.
Speaker 1: But when I started doing that thirty years ago, my
Speaker 1: colleagues hated me. It's like, no you shouldn't do that.
Speaker 1: That's not what we do. We make diagnoses based on
Speaker 1: symptom clusters. We don't need to know about the brain,
Speaker 1: which you people are insane. But I got investigated by
Speaker 1: the medical board in California for like a year. It
Speaker 1: was the worst year of my life. And I an
Speaker 1: mdr therapist working for me in my office, and one
Speaker 1: day I went into doctor Lendall and I'm like, I
Speaker 1: am not okay, You're gonna do this thing on me.
Speaker 1: And after an hour I left her office and I
Speaker 1: didn't care. I'm like, it'll whatever will happen, will happen,
Speaker 1: you know. I love to say. My friend Byron Katie
Speaker 1: says argue with reality, welcome to Hell. And my anxiety
Speaker 1: just went away. And ultimately they dismissed any complaint against me.
Speaker 1: And I obviously been doing this a long time, but
Speaker 1: I just saw how powerful it was. I didn't have
Speaker 1: to stay attached to the pain. I mean, I'm fascinated
Speaker 1: to try it myself now, and like, I think that's
Speaker 1: the only way to know. And but it's great to
Speaker 1: hear that again. I just to clarify, I think what
Speaker 1: you're saying is that this is a great practice. It
Speaker 1: helps you move along and then only habits still have
Speaker 1: to be in place, because do you feel like people
Speaker 1: doing it? Yeah right, it's like others you can just
Speaker 1: go back and like, like dancing is a great brain exercise,
Speaker 1: but if you drink while you dance, you're completely messing
Speaker 1: up the benefit. Yeah, that's great. Pink table Tennis brand
Speaker 1: new study out today. I was so excited that racket
Speaker 1: sports people who play racquet sports live longer than everybody else,
Speaker 1: sixteen percent longer, longer than runners, longer than anybody else.
Speaker 1: I love that because I play pink punk tennis and pickleballs.
Speaker 1: But like beer pond is not going down, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know, but no, I literally play. I play
Speaker 1: all three of those. I'm getting a pink bunk table.
Speaker 1: I play tennis, and I started playing pickleball, and it's
Speaker 1: like it's so much fun. It's easy, you only need
Speaker 1: one other person, easy to do, and they're not good
Speaker 1: for you, and it's fun and you and it loves
Speaker 1: you back. Yeah, you just have to find what are
Speaker 1: those habits? What are those activities I love that loved
Speaker 1: me back. Yeah, that's fantastic. I want to let everyone
Speaker 1: know if you don't have you happier already, which is
Speaker 1: the book that we're talking from, makes you grab a
Speaker 1: copy because we're you know, literally touching the surface. But
Speaker 1: the lies of happiness are fantastic. There are eleven lies
Speaker 1: in here that we're told. We've talked about a lot
Speaker 1: of them today, having more and having more of something
Speaker 1: like love, sex, fame, drugs, don't worry, be happy. We
Speaker 1: talked about that positivity mindset. We talked about advertisers and
Speaker 1: fast food. We talked about needing you know, technology, we
Speaker 1: talked about and we'll talk a bit more about that too.
Speaker 1: We talked about constantly being in the news, constantly being
Speaker 1: aware of the news. We talked about alcohol, marijuana. We've
Speaker 1: touched on a lot of those lies, but I really
Speaker 1: want you to dive into it because I think those
Speaker 1: lies are what's governing our pursuits. But focus on the
Speaker 1: seven Secrets of happiness to talk about that no one
Speaker 1: else is talking about. You said the brain needs targeted
Speaker 1: nutrients every day to boost happiness. What are some of
Speaker 1: those targeted nutrients? Because you also gave me along with
Speaker 1: the vegan omegas, you also gave meaning, could you tell
Speaker 1: us a bit about why that's so awesome for calm, clarity,
Speaker 1: and focus, well, especially if you tend to be anxious.
Speaker 1: Thanning from green tea helps you focus and calm you
Speaker 1: at the same time. And yes, green tea does have
Speaker 1: a little bit of caffeine, But why green tea is
Speaker 1: better than coffee is the thanning helps calm down the
Speaker 1: effects of the caffeine. And but thanning by its self
Speaker 1: is just magical for so many of my patients and
Speaker 1: those gummies they taste great and they have no sugar,
Speaker 1: right because sugar for me, it would be a brand violation,
Speaker 1: and we don't do brand violations. Where from what is
Speaker 1: it from green tea? Okay, that's where it comes from, right,
Speaker 1: it's not. Yeah, it's one of the active ingredients in
Speaker 1: green tea Green tea. Catechians are another great substance for
Speaker 1: your brain. My favorite of all of them. We talked
Speaker 1: about omega threes, but my favorite is saffron. And I've
Speaker 1: been following the science of saffron for over twenty years
Speaker 1: because over twenty years ago a study came out showing
Speaker 1: it was equally effective to prozac, and I'm like, whoa um.
Speaker 1: And there's folklore in India, India. Yeah, my mom is
Speaker 1: gonna love this moment in this podcast. Then if you're
Speaker 1: too happy, you must have had saffron. So now there
Speaker 1: are twenty four randomized controlled trials head to head against antidepressants,
Speaker 1: showing that it's equally effective to boost your mood. But
Speaker 1: as opposed to antidepressants, which can decrease sexual function, saffron
Speaker 1: increases sexual function, increases pleasure, increases responsiveness, even in some
Speaker 1: studies sperm motility. Saffron has been shown to enhance memory
Speaker 1: and unlike memory, mood and sex. And at the beginning
Speaker 1: of the pandemic, right where my dad was sick, I'm like,
Speaker 1: I make something called happy saffron with saffron zinc and
Speaker 1: kirk humans. I have taken it every day since, and
Speaker 1: I just think it's just a nice thing to help
Speaker 1: keep people balance. But then the supplements in large part
Speaker 1: depend on your brain type. That's secret Number two is
Speaker 1: what makes some people happy makes other people miserable. And
Speaker 1: a one size fits all with happiness, it's just not reality.
Speaker 1: Some people need novelty and they love surprises. Where it's
Speaker 1: type two. There's five primary types. That's our spontaneous type.
Speaker 1: But type three the persistent type. They hate surprises and
Speaker 1: love routine. And so know your type and the type
Speaker 1: of your spouse and children, and then ask yourself, every day,
Speaker 1: I do something that makes me uniquely happy. And this
Speaker 1: book's going to help people figure out that type. You
Speaker 1: have the types in the book, so we have the
Speaker 1: balanced brain type, the spontaneous brain type, the persistent brain type,
Speaker 1: sensitive brain type, and the quotious brain type. And the
Speaker 1: book helps you diagnose and figure out which brain type
Speaker 1: you have. So you can do this with your friends,
Speaker 1: your family, your partner, your kids, and that's going to
Speaker 1: help you understand what they need more of or what
Speaker 1: they miss effect. My nieces they had friends over and
Speaker 1: they were in the spot home and they were taking
Speaker 1: the ACE quizzes with their friends and knowing each other's
Speaker 1: brain type. It was such a great discussion. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: love that. How do people, as in walk us through
Speaker 1: some of the process you created to help people figure
Speaker 1: out their brain type? Well, you know, based on my
Speaker 1: imaging work, I like, I was looking initially for the
Speaker 1: one type of you know, where's depression in the brain,
Speaker 1: And then I realized, oh, there's not one type of depression.
Speaker 1: There's seven where's add in the brain. There's not one
Speaker 1: type of add there's seven. That's why Ridland's controversial. For
Speaker 1: some people, it's a miracle. For other people, it's a nightmare.
Speaker 1: And it depends on how your brain works. And then
Speaker 1: I realized I was seeing patterns of personality, like if
Speaker 1: your frontal lobes worked too hard, you tend to be
Speaker 1: worried and rigid, and if things don't go your way,
Speaker 1: you're upset. And I have of my five girls, two
Speaker 1: of them have this pattern, and I know no matter
Speaker 1: what I say to them, they're going to dismiss it.
Speaker 1: It's going to bounce off. It's like they wear teflon.
Speaker 1: And so if I were like shopping I love shopping
Speaker 1: with my girls, and I go, oh, do you like this,
Speaker 1: the answer will be immediately no. So for them, I
Speaker 1: know their type and I wait for them to show
Speaker 1: me stuff, and if I want them to do something,
Speaker 1: I'll actually ask them the opposite of what I want
Speaker 1: them to do, because they're just you know, these people,
Speaker 1: they're just sort of naturally oppositional. And if I want
Speaker 1: them to go to the store with me, I'm going
Speaker 1: to go I'm gonna go to the store you probably
Speaker 1: don't want to go with me. It's like, what do
Speaker 1: you mean, I don't want to go with you. We
Speaker 1: don't spend any time together. That approach of personalization and
Speaker 1: an individualization is just so needed, especially in healthcare, because
Speaker 1: like you're saying, you can, and that's what me and
Speaker 1: my wife see that in us, Like our diets are
Speaker 1: completely different for us to be an optimal level, and
Speaker 1: our workouts are completely different. Like my wife is a
Speaker 1: high intensity workout person. I'm a low intensity workout person.
Speaker 1: I just don't enjoy high intensity. It doesn't work for me.
Speaker 1: I feel more inflamed, I feel you know, more heated
Speaker 1: in my body. I don't need that. I'm pretty you
Speaker 1: know active heat as it is. And then my wife
Speaker 1: really enjoys it. It's really great for her body. She
Speaker 1: feels great for men. So I just think it's so
Speaker 1: fascinating that we keep trying to take like whatever works
Speaker 1: for everyone must work for me, and we get this
Speaker 1: trend or this fad, and I think this diagnosis of
Speaker 1: your brain type that I think this is the best
Speaker 1: thing that you possibly could have done for us. The
Speaker 1: persistent people, they need carbs if you put them on
Speaker 1: a chetogetic diet, they get depressed and they get angry.
Speaker 1: I was on Rachel Ray's show and she was the
Speaker 1: persist brain type and a national TV we're talking about this,
Speaker 1: and she said, I went on a low carb diet
Speaker 1: and I was so mean. I wondered why my husband
Speaker 1: didn't leave me. Because the persistent brain type needs serotonin.
Speaker 1: And if you think about a higher protein, lower simple
Speaker 1: carbohydrate diet, it's a dopamine diet. It helps you focus.
Speaker 1: But if you give it to the persistent type, they
Speaker 1: focus more on the things that make them unhappy and
Speaker 1: make other people unhappy. So the wrong diet can cause divorce,
Speaker 1: and so you have to like target it to the person.
Speaker 1: But it's also why people get addicted to sugar, because
Speaker 1: sugar is a simple carbohydrate, and sugar raises serotonin and
Speaker 1: it makes you happy. Have you ever wondered when you
Speaker 1: go to a restaurant why they immediately give you bread
Speaker 1: and alcohol because both of them drop your frontlope. So
Speaker 1: the bread some carbohydrate raises your blood sugar and your
Speaker 1: pancreases it and produces insulin. Insulin drives tripped to fan
Speaker 1: into your brain. Trip to fan makes serotonin and you
Speaker 1: feel pretty happy, which is why people get addicted to
Speaker 1: pastries and bread and pizza and donuts. And then they
Speaker 1: give you alcohol because it drops your front elopes. So
Speaker 1: if they give you free bread and offer you alcohol,
Speaker 1: they're gonna make more money because you're gonna order things
Speaker 1: you said before you walked into the restaurant you weren't
Speaker 1: going to order, including dessert. That is so true. And
Speaker 1: I love it when they give me bread. It's like
Speaker 1: my favorite. It is not anymore, but that's like my
Speaker 1: favorite thing that I love it when I walk into
Speaker 1: the restaurant, like do you have a bread basket? Like
Speaker 1: you know, it's a it's such a habit, right, It's
Speaker 1: it's all habits. Would I find that happiness is such
Speaker 1: an interesting goal, That's what I meant. But we want
Speaker 1: to feel happy, but the things that you have to
Speaker 1: do to feel happy are not necessarily the things you
Speaker 1: want to do. If something initially initially that's what I'm
Speaker 1: until it switches, until it switches and oh, by the way,
Speaker 1: and I start the book with this, happiness is a
Speaker 1: moral obligation because you know, people are like, oh, you're
Speaker 1: writing a book on happiness. That's fluff. Can't you do
Speaker 1: something more serious? And I'm like, but it's a moral obligation.
Speaker 1: Why because of how you affect other people. I guarantee
Speaker 1: you if you ask someone who is raised by an
Speaker 1: unhappy parent, or married to an unhappy spouse, or raising
Speaker 1: an unhappy child, whether or not happiness is an ethical issue.
Speaker 1: So this is important for us to seek happiness in
Speaker 1: the context of health. I believe everyone that is doctor
Speaker 1: Daniel Aman speaking about you happy. It is the book.
Speaker 1: I genuinely, genuinely recommend this book. I think you know
Speaker 1: there's some books that will just transform how you think
Speaker 1: about your brain. I know that working with doctor Daniel
Speaker 1: Aleman has been really powerful for my brain. So many
Speaker 1: of the habits have developed consciously or subconsciously have happened
Speaker 1: through our conversations. I mean, when you told me about
Speaker 1: racket sports, that's what led me to start playing tennis,
Speaker 1: and then I started playing pickleball, and then I picked
Speaker 1: I'm getting a ping pong table, and it was just
Speaker 1: there were these really tiny things that we've exchanged in
Speaker 1: our conversations that have made huge differences in my life.
Speaker 1: And so today when you told me I look great,
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, thanks, to you, doctor, this is
Speaker 1: because of you, but I want you to go and
Speaker 1: grab this book, The Seven Neuroscience Secrets of Feeling Good
Speaker 1: based on your brain type. The book's called You Happier,
Speaker 1: Doctor Danna Leman. You'll know this will be no surprise
Speaker 1: to you. We end every interview with a fast five,
Speaker 1: which is our final five every time that we do this,
Speaker 1: so you have to figure out new answers every time
Speaker 1: you come on. But these are your fast five. So
Speaker 1: the first question is what is the best brain advice
Speaker 1: you've ever heard, receive, or given? Every day? Ask yourself
Speaker 1: this question is as good for my brain or bad
Speaker 1: for it. It's so simple. It's the mother tiny habit
Speaker 1: to have a great brain for the rest of your life. Okay,
Speaker 1: second question, what is the worst brain habit advice you've
Speaker 1: ever received? So, what is the worst brain advice or
Speaker 1: you've ever received? Everything in moderation, which is the gateway
Speaker 1: thought to hell. It's the gateway thought to cheating. As
Speaker 1: soon as you hear someone say everything in moderation, they're
Speaker 1: going to do something bad for their brain. Wow. Explain.
Speaker 1: Let's let's dive into that a little bit, because I
Speaker 1: feel like that's such a common misconception that people have,
Speaker 1: Oh I need to have a balanced life in a
Speaker 1: balanced diet, right, So yeah, but balance for them when
Speaker 1: they're saying moderation means sugar, or it means alcohol, or
Speaker 1: it means marijuana or thing that doesn't well, it means comfort,
Speaker 1: it's their excuse. It's it's one of the little lies
Speaker 1: people tell themselves that keep them fat, depressed, and feeble minded. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's let's do I actually want to take a little segue.
Speaker 1: Let's talk a bit about marijuana, because I think that
Speaker 1: that's become so popular. I did it a bit as
Speaker 1: a kid. I messed around within my teens and never
Speaker 1: really got into it. You did my brain scan, there's no,
Speaker 1: there's no signs of it because I was never too
Speaker 1: deep into it. And obviously since I lived as a monk,
Speaker 1: I don't I don't mess around with anything, so I
Speaker 1: haven't you know, I haven't drank alcohol for sixteen years
Speaker 1: or something like that, and like no marijuana for sixteen years.
Speaker 1: But what is marijuana doing? Because I feel like so
Speaker 1: many people do feel like they need it or like
Speaker 1: it's benefiting their life where it's become so normal though, Like,
Speaker 1: are the what are the issues. Well, they need it
Speaker 1: because it changes their brain to need it in order
Speaker 1: to feel normal. What is he doing in a way
Speaker 1: to make people feel like it's helpful? What calming things
Speaker 1: down right in the brain. So I published a study
Speaker 1: on a thousand marijuana users. Every area of their brain
Speaker 1: is lower in activity. And then I published the world's
Speaker 1: largest imaging study on sixty two four hundred and fifty
Speaker 1: four scans looking at how the brain ages. And I
Speaker 1: looked at well, what accelerated aging, and marijuana was the
Speaker 1: second worst thing to accelerate aging. The worst thing was
Speaker 1: having schizophrenia, but the second worst thing it surprised me
Speaker 1: quite frankly. It was worse than alcohol, worse than marijuana.
Speaker 1: It dulls slows down nerve cell firing. So if you
Speaker 1: have a busy brain in your anxious you feel like
Speaker 1: it's helpful. But it's also been shown to damage some
Speaker 1: of the structure of neurons, and kids who smoke or
Speaker 1: use have an increased incidence of anxiety, depression, and suicide
Speaker 1: in their twenties. Kids who use have a four hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty percent increased risk of developing psychosis, and people
Speaker 1: have been I've been a psychiatrist forty years. We've all
Speaker 1: seen cases like that. Their cases now because marijuana is
Speaker 1: so much more potent than it was when I was
Speaker 1: growing up. That there's a word called scrommating, which is
Speaker 1: screaming and vomiting at the same time that if you're
Speaker 1: in an emergency room, people are like, oh, oh, this
Speaker 1: person's poisoned with marijuana. Not to mention the seventeen hundred
Speaker 1: percent increase in babies being born with marijuana and the
Speaker 1: trouble that that causes. It's like people go to that
Speaker 1: before they learn diaformatic breathing, before they learn meditation, before
Speaker 1: they learn self hypnosis, before they go for EMDR to
Speaker 1: deal with their traumas, and that's just not right, Like,
Speaker 1: let's do the non toxic things first rather than you know,
Speaker 1: And that's my problem with psychedelics. It's like, you know,
Speaker 1: maybe at some point if you have severe PTSC that's
Speaker 1: not responding to anything that could be helpful, But have
Speaker 1: you done the basics first? Yeah, And the challenge I
Speaker 1: find that most people say is that non toxic things
Speaker 1: are slow. You have to learn something right, it's not
Speaker 1: immediate like meditation, for example, as you know, meditation. Let's
Speaker 1: take a what was the first thing you said. You said,
Speaker 1: diafromatic breathing. Dim. I can get you to break a
Speaker 1: panic attack in two minutes. Yea. If I just get
Speaker 1: you to breathe four seconds in, hold it for a second,
Speaker 1: eight seconds out, hold it for a second. Do that
Speaker 1: for three minutes, you're gonna feel so much better, so
Speaker 1: much calmer. This isn't hard, but it's not taught, and
Speaker 1: so people don't know, and then they're like, so, where's
Speaker 1: my dealer. That's the hard part. That's the hard part.
Speaker 1: We're not taught, and then we go for the quick fix,
Speaker 1: and then we get addicted to the quick fix because
Speaker 1: it's a quick fix, and then that becomes our reality.
Speaker 1: And that's right. But there are other quick fixes that
Speaker 1: are quick. Yeah, if we just are taught. Um, Like
Speaker 1: you know, one of my favorite things is killing the ants,
Speaker 1: the automatic negative thoughts. Whenever you feel sad, mad, nervous,
Speaker 1: or radicate, write down what you think. Write it down
Speaker 1: and then go is it true? And then write the
Speaker 1: opposite Tanna never listens to me, Tanna does listen to me,
Speaker 1: And then go is that true? And you'll often find
Speaker 1: the opposite of the thought that's torturing you. It's true
Speaker 1: when I do that all the time with my wife,
Speaker 1: I feel the same way doing with your spouse is
Speaker 1: very helpful. But I'm like, all, Riley doesn't care about me?
Speaker 1: And then yeah, asking myself, Rody does care. Oh, I
Speaker 1: can find lots of reasons. Yeah, it's it's beautiful. And
Speaker 1: then you don't have to believe the negativity because where
Speaker 1: you luck determines how you feel. If you find the negative,
Speaker 1: you're going to feel negative, and if you find the beautiful,
Speaker 1: you're gonna feel beautiful. Absolutely all right. Question number three,
Speaker 1: this that was a great tangent. I'm glad we did that.
Speaker 1: Question number three, what is your current purpose? How do
Speaker 1: you define it? My current purpose is to change how
Speaker 1: psychiatric medicine is practice, to take it out of the
Speaker 1: dark ages, to end the whole concept of mental illness
Speaker 1: and create a revolution in brain health. I love that.
Speaker 1: What a great purpose we here to support. We have
Speaker 1: a big gale. I'm so excited about seventh at the
Speaker 1: Beverly Hilton Hotel, the end of mental Illness. We're going
Speaker 1: to be what's the goal of that, what's the what's
Speaker 1: the purpose to do? In that event. So the purpose
Speaker 1: of the event is to really raise money for the
Speaker 1: Foundation for Research, tend the whole concept of mental illness
Speaker 1: for education. We actually have a new preschool course to
Speaker 1: teach kids to love their brain called brain Thrive by
Speaker 1: five and serve us to raise money especially for first
Speaker 1: responders because you know, they got hurt really bad in
Speaker 1: the pandemic, so that they can get this new brain
Speaker 1: health way. We're so excited. Kerry Anna Naba is going
Speaker 1: to be the MC of the event. Miley Sarah says
Speaker 1: she's going to come, So we're excited as some congrats,
Speaker 1: very excited for that. I've got two more questions with
Speaker 1: you then I'll let you there you go, all right.
Speaker 1: Question number four is um and is that something everyone
Speaker 1: can come to? By the way, it's a public event,
Speaker 1: so we're gonna start advertising it soon perfect December seventh.
Speaker 1: December seventhly hillto it's a public event that people can
Speaker 1: buy tickets to come to to support the cause that
Speaker 1: you just mentioned. Correct, amazing love that. We'll put the
Speaker 1: details in the notes as well as everyone has them.
Speaker 1: Question on before, what's something you wish you knew about
Speaker 1: the brain earlier? In your own life. So nineteen ninety one,
Speaker 1: I'm thirty seven, and I'm a double board certified psychiatrist.
Speaker 1: I was the top neuroscience student in medical school, and
Speaker 1: I don't care about my brain at all life. And
Speaker 1: I was overweight, and I was only sleeping four hours
Speaker 1: a night. I was chronically stressed. And I scanned my
Speaker 1: brain because I just started scanned, so I scanned everybody
Speaker 1: I knew. I scanned my sixty year old mother. She
Speaker 1: had a gorgeous brain. And when I scanned myself, it
Speaker 1: wasn't healthy. And I was horrified. And I come from
Speaker 1: a very competitive family, and I just really unhappy that
Speaker 1: my sixty year old mother had a better looking brain
Speaker 1: than I did. So I developed a concept called brain envy.
Speaker 1: I always say Freud was wrong. Penis Envy's not the
Speaker 1: cause of anybody's problem. I wanted a better brain, and
Speaker 1: I think I've spent the last thirty one years just
Speaker 1: trying to get a better brain. Well, ses just wish
Speaker 1: you knew about that. I wish I knew about that earlier.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have played football, and I wouldn't have drank
Speaker 1: diet soda like it was my best friend. Do you
Speaker 1: want to tell us a bit about that, because I
Speaker 1: feel like soda people have agreed it's bad without diet
Speaker 1: soda has become I used to think diet soda was free, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, it's like no galleries. But the aspartame and
Speaker 1: what we know now was sucralos is really bad. So
Speaker 1: there's a brand new study out looking at sugar, sucralose
Speaker 1: or splenda and stevia, and they did brain scans and
Speaker 1: cognitive testing and stevia nothing happened before or after. It's
Speaker 1: actually pretty safe. Sugar. New learning dropped, Splendor was the worst.
Speaker 1: New learning dropped, long term memory dropped, and you've got
Speaker 1: a surge of slow frontal lobe activity, which means it
Speaker 1: deactivated your frontal lobes. And I'm like, and you know,
Speaker 1: the yellow packets are everywhere so where. It's so scary.
Speaker 1: It's like, I don't know how the I don't know
Speaker 1: how they haven't figured out way to just improve the
Speaker 1: food about as a whole through all these standards, Like
Speaker 1: with all these studies coming out, how most of these
Speaker 1: foods has not been bad because of the agricultural londy
Speaker 1: that you know. I mean, just we talked about pop
Speaker 1: tarts and how bad they are. But they're you know,
Speaker 1: we're spending government money to give them to poor children,
Speaker 1: which will keep them poor. Yeah, it's so sad. I
Speaker 1: find that's the hardest part for me, where I'm like,
Speaker 1: but we can change it. Yeah, well, I know we can.
Speaker 1: That smart people can figure out solutions to aramatically shift
Speaker 1: the population. I don't know if we ever talked about
Speaker 1: the Daniel Plan, the big project I did Saddleback Church,
Speaker 1: where you know, thousands of churches have done the health
Speaker 1: program that I created with Pastor Rick Warren. So you
Speaker 1: just have to have intention. Yeah. Purpose, that's part of
Speaker 1: the revolution in brain health. Yeah. Fifth and final question,
Speaker 1: what makes you happier? Being here makes me happier? Seeing
Speaker 1: you being with people I love makes me happier. It
Speaker 1: was at the Beverly Hilton Hotel today getting ready for
Speaker 1: our event, and they cooked a lot of Tanna's recipes
Speaker 1: from her cookbook The Brain Warriors Way, and they did
Speaker 1: such an amazing job that made me happy. And I'm
Speaker 1: walking out to the parking let someone recognized me. I
Speaker 1: love your TikTok evall thing. So making a difference makes
Speaker 1: me happy. I'm one of seven children and I'm in
Speaker 1: the middle, so I was completely irrelevant, and so not
Speaker 1: being irrelevant sort of helps make me happy. I love that,
Speaker 1: doctor Jennam, and it's always such a joy to spend
Speaker 1: time with you, Honestly, it really is. And thank you
Speaker 1: so much for all the work you're doing. I know
Speaker 1: I lean on it constantly and I deeply appreciate it.
Speaker 1: And I hope that everyone's going to go out and
Speaker 1: read the book, make a change in their life and
Speaker 1: start changing their brain. But thank you so much for
Speaker 1: joining us. Make sure that you follow doctor Raymond on TikTok,
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Speaker 1: that you tag us with anything you learned, anything that
Speaker 1: stood out, any element of this podcast. For to share
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Speaker 1: cut it up and put it on TikTok. Like there's
Speaker 1: so many amazing insights here in the book but also
Speaker 1: in this show, and I love to see what resonates
Speaker 1: with you, and I love to see what you're applying
Speaker 1: in your life. So it makes you share that. Thank
Speaker 1: you so much for listening and watching, and doctor Jenner
Speaker 1: Aim and thank you for doing this so much. Thank
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