1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com. 2 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 1: I am Mike Spofford, sitting alongside my trusted colleague West Hodkowitz. 3 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: Were coming to you here from our studios at lambeau 4 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 1: Field West. The first preseason game for the Packers in 5 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 1: nineteen is in the books. It turned out to be 6 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 1: a victory over the Houston Texans after Houston had spent 7 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 1: the bulk of the week in Green Bay. And I 8 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:44,159 Speaker 1: don't want to read too much into it, obviously, in 9 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 1: a game where the vast majority of the starters for 10 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:49,200 Speaker 1: both teams didn't play, this really was a game about 11 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 1: reserve players and backups fighting for spots. But if you 12 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 1: want to look for anything that maybe hopefully for the 13 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 1: Packers set some kind of a tone for nineteen, is 14 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 1: that they were looking for turnovers and for better impact 15 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:06,120 Speaker 1: on special teams. And they got both of those in 16 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 1: the Texans, and they got it right away. It wasn't 17 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 1: one of those things where they needed to like go 18 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:12,679 Speaker 1: down to crunch time and then someone made a playing 19 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 1: you know, the garbage moment in the ball game, and 20 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 1: the you know, the decisions already at hand. They made 21 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 1: three impact plays right off the bat, and then they 22 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:21,960 Speaker 1: did another one right when they came back after halftime. 23 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 1: We could talk about the turnovers and takeaways on defense, 24 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 1: but man, it was just like you could feel this 25 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 1: collective sigh of relief when Econemius st Brown was able 26 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:35,759 Speaker 1: to force that muff punt early in the first quarter there. 27 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 1: Last year, the Packers actually got off to a good 28 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 1: start last year. They got a block punt right off 29 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 1: the bat with Josh Jackson recovering it. Yeah, Week two 30 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:46,759 Speaker 1: against the Vikings, but it was all downhill from there 31 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 1: and they weren't really ever able to re establish that momentum. 32 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 1: To get a play like this, and to see a 33 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 1: young receiver like st Brown make a play when you 34 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 1: need them to it was important. I think it's something 35 00:01:57,440 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 1: that the special teams unit when they looked to cut 36 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 1: down and they woant umber of penalties they had last year, 37 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 1: but also makes some impact plays that can change the 38 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 1: course of a ball game. Uh st Brown did that. 39 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 1: He got on the guy, he pressured him and then 40 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:13,080 Speaker 1: also had the presence of mind to be able to 41 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 1: take the ball away and get the touchdown. Afterwards, he's 42 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 1: talking to Tim Boyle and some guys after that Kadar 43 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:22,399 Speaker 1: Holman who had the interception, and they mentioned just how 44 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 1: big those impact plays are, not just so trying to 45 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 1: make the football team, but really dictating the tempo. It's 46 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:30,239 Speaker 1: one thing the Packers are able to accomplish against the 47 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 1: Texas right off the bat. Yeah, I was really impressed 48 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 1: with Holman's interception. That was another one of the early ones, 49 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 1: and we had talked about him going into the game, 50 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 1: guys like Kadar Holman, Tony Brown getting a lot more 51 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: snaps in practice with with you know, ones and twos 52 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 1: with Kevin King being out and uh, you know, Holman 53 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 1: made a nice play there. Now, it was an under 54 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 1: thrown ball, but he had talked about it was something 55 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 1: he saw in practice against the Texans during the week, 56 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 1: and then the recognition was there, so he undercut the 57 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: route and boom, he took advantage of of a poor 58 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:04,239 Speaker 1: throw and got a big turnover in the red zone. 59 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 1: You have to do that too. I absolutely love when 60 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 1: he said that, because this is the preseason, it's training camp. 61 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 1: But for guys like Holman that are trying to carve 62 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 1: out a role in this defense, these are the moments 63 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 1: you need to have along the way for him to 64 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 1: be able to have that intelligence football i Q recall 65 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 1: if you will, and then make it that play happen, 66 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 1: will it to existence into a football game? That That's 67 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 1: the one thing that really was missing from Holman's resume 68 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: so far. He's been sticky good in coverage. He's incredibly fast. 69 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 1: He just really hadn't had that big mark he takeaway. 70 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 1: He was able to get that off of Joe Webb 71 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 1: and then another guy really quickly to jump off of two. 72 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 1: Raven Green is a player who right off the bat 73 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 1: was playing with the first team unit, whether it was 74 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 1: as deep safety when Darnell Savage was still out with 75 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 1: the wisdom teeth or moving into the boxes that hybrid 76 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 1: in the box safety linebacker role. Well, here's the young 77 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 1: man coming through with a force fumble that ends up 78 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 1: getting recovered by Will Redman. I mean, by all intents 79 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 1: and purposes, Mike, if these practices, if that preseason game, 80 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 1: there's anything to draw off of it, it's that Raven 81 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 1: Green is going to have a role in this defense. 82 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 1: That's the way it looks right now. Kind of like 83 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 1: what the Tally did on offense, Green has done a 84 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 1: lot of that on defense as a guy that you 85 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 1: thought going into camp might be on the fringe. It 86 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 1: looks like he's very much in playing. Yeah, well, it 87 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 1: wasn't all sunshine and roses in the first preseason game. 88 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 1: Because if there were a couple of things that the 89 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:29,479 Speaker 1: Packers definitely are looking to clean up as they head 90 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:33,040 Speaker 1: into their second preseason game this week in Baltimore, it's 91 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:35,239 Speaker 1: the penalties and the miss tackles. There were a dozen 92 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 1: penalties for over a hundred yards Matt Lafleur counted, and 93 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 1: when he went through the film, twenty four miss tackles 94 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:45,600 Speaker 1: that equated to about a hundred and sixty four yards 95 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 1: of offense um or yards in general for the Houston Texans. 96 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: So the tackles thing, I get it. Obviously you want 97 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:56,839 Speaker 1: to see guys tackle better than that. But when you 98 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 1: look at it West, you know, three weeks of O 99 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:01,720 Speaker 1: t A, it is a week of mini camp, two 100 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 1: weeks of training camp. These guys have played football for 101 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 1: six weeks without tackling anybody. So okay, let's see what 102 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 1: happens in Baltimore before we, you know, make any grand 103 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:15,279 Speaker 1: pronouncements about this is a major issue that the Packers 104 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:17,600 Speaker 1: need to fix. So let's see what happens in Game 105 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 1: two the penalties. We saw a couple of things that 106 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:24,040 Speaker 1: our points of emphasis for the officials this year. One 107 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 1: is offensive holding, because right away in the first quarter 108 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:29,159 Speaker 1: both teams were getting flagged for holding left and right. 109 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 1: The officials really trying to get these guys to pay 110 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 1: attention to their technique and what's going to be called 111 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 1: this year. And then the other one to watch out 112 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 1: for two. It was on Holman's interception, the blindside block 113 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 1: Will Redmond. As Holman got up to return the interception 114 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 1: one way, Will Redmond was running the other way to 115 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 1: pick off a trailing player. Can't do that anymore. At 116 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 1: least you can't block him forcibly. You could run that 117 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 1: way and get in his way and try to prevent 118 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:57,160 Speaker 1: him from getting there, but you can't lay the guy out. 119 00:05:57,279 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 1: That's gonna get a flag. That's going to be an 120 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 1: obvious fifty yard penalty. The officials are watching for that 121 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 1: kind of stuff. I don't know if you realize this, Mike, 122 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 1: but I'm now a officionado when it comes to understanding 123 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 1: the blindside block. After having our conference last week with 124 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 1: the officials, there you go the one thing you want 125 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 1: to look for now on that play is you can 126 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 1: stand in their way, you can shield them, is the 127 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:19,159 Speaker 1: way they describe it. Otherwise you can extend your hands, 128 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 1: but if you throw the shoulder, if you lower your helmet, 129 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 1: all that stuff is what the reps are gonna be 130 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 1: looking for. And it doesn't matter if you contact him 131 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 1: in the head or neck area or whatever. It's what 132 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: you do if you're literally if it's what they're gonna 133 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 1: call forcible contact and you're running towards the goal line 134 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 1: that you're defending, if you're running the opposite way, so 135 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:40,719 Speaker 1: to speak, they're gonna flag it, right. And it doesn't 136 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:42,720 Speaker 1: like you just said, like if Mike Spofford's running on 137 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:44,839 Speaker 1: the football field like that and I throw my shoulder 138 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:47,479 Speaker 1: into you, which is typically a legal hit if it's 139 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 1: in the course of play, like a defensive back going 140 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:53,599 Speaker 1: to hit a receiver after catching ball, all that's legal. 141 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 1: But not on that one because the guy doesn't see 142 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 1: it coming. So yeah, that's one thing that they're gonna 143 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:00,279 Speaker 1: have to clean up, no doubt about it. The packling 144 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 1: I thought it was somewhat maddening, to be honest with you, 145 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:04,479 Speaker 1: because if there was any time in which I expected 146 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:06,040 Speaker 1: them to miss a lot of tackles. It was going 147 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:08,279 Speaker 1: to be early on in the football game. They actually 148 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 1: were pretty sharp there. I thought Raven Green, Tony Brown, 149 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 1: uh Tye Summers and number of guys had really nice 150 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 1: solo tackles in the open field. But maybe it's just 151 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 1: the attrition, you know, conditioning. As the game wore on, 152 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 1: it became a little bit more uh you know, hit 153 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 1: or mess. Yeah. I think fatigue was definitely setting in 154 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 1: with these guys when you look at the fact, you know, 155 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 1: all these guys sharing reps in practice for these one hour, 156 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 1: forty five minute two hour practices. Suddenly there's a three 157 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 1: hour football game and a bunch of starters are resting, 158 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 1: they're not taking any reps, and a lot of these guys, 159 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 1: the twos and three, so to speak, are playing an 160 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 1: entire football game. The miss tackles definitely piled up as 161 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 1: the game went along, and I think conditioning was definitely 162 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 1: a part of it. Yeah, And that's why I kind 163 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 1: of feel for Thy Summers a little bit. I mean, 164 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 1: say what you will, I know there were some places 165 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 1: you wanted back in the second half. The guy played 166 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 1: almost eighty snaps, found special teams in there one thing 167 00:07:57,040 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 1: I want to point out, though I thought was really cool, 168 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 1: it hasn't really come up to this week, is the 169 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:04,239 Speaker 1: Packers actually started cycling their offensive lineman during that game. 170 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 1: Historically in those preseason games, you'll see the number one 171 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 1: line or whatever's left of it, the number two line, 172 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 1: and the number three line. They actually had guys like, 173 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 1: for example, de Beer. Gerard de Beer started at right tackle, 174 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 1: then came in again later in the game. You don't 175 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 1: always see that kind of stuff. So I think where 176 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 1: he came out for a while and then went back 177 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 1: justin McCrae ended up leaving the game, came back in 178 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 1: as a center for Manny Wilkins. I thought that was 179 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 1: one way as far as the bigger guys concerned, to 180 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 1: make sure that they can make it up for the 181 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 1: whole game. Yeah, well, real quickly, Wes need to take 182 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 1: care of our sponsor business here. Select Cousin Subs locations 183 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:41,439 Speaker 1: are now offering delivery. 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The Packers 193 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 1: have announced it as a chest injury. Matt Lafleur has 194 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:17,960 Speaker 1: not given any updates yet, saying they're still gathering information 195 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 1: on the injury, something that's taking this long. Unfortunately, I 196 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 1: don't think it's going to be good news whatever it's 197 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 1: going to be at the end of this. But where 198 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:29,439 Speaker 1: the Packers are right now is that the picture has 199 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 1: changed at inside linebacker. You mentioned Ye Summers. He led 200 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 1: the team with ten tackles in the Houston game, probably 201 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 1: could have should have had fourteen or fifteen to be 202 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 1: the first one to admit it, because he did miss 203 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 1: some in there. We've also seen Curtis Bolton, undrafted linebacker, 204 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 1: undrafted rookie from Oklahoma. He's been working alongside Blake Martinez 205 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 1: in practice. Summers has kind of been the signal caller 206 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:57,319 Speaker 1: with the helmet communicator and everything for the number two defense, 207 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 1: a couple of other young guys James Crawford, Brady Show 208 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 1: Olden in that mix as well at inside linebacker. Um, 209 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 1: this Baltimore game is going to be a big one 210 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 1: for that group. Because I don't want to make two 211 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 1: grand of an announcement here, but in a lot of ways, 212 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 1: maybe how this Baltimore game goes with these young inside 213 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:21,680 Speaker 1: linebackers will determine how strongly the personnel department is going 214 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:25,199 Speaker 1: to look outside to bring in another guy if or 215 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 1: in Burke's injury is a long term deal. So there's 216 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 1: a lot to pay attention here. Pay attention to here 217 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 1: as far as what's going on and inside backer indubitably right, 218 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:37,439 Speaker 1: that's Mike Spotford. Word. Here's the thing. Last year when 219 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 1: Burke's had the shoulder injury, that's where you saw them 220 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 1: claim Antonio Morrison the next week after the Oakland game. 221 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:45,319 Speaker 1: So this, I think you hit it right on the head. 222 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 1: This is gonna be a game where those young guys 223 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:49,080 Speaker 1: have to show that they can, you know, really hold 224 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 1: down the fourth there so to speak. They want to 225 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 1: keep that job in house. These guys are not only 226 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 1: fighting for roster spots, they're fighting for playing time. They 227 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 1: don't want to force the personnel department to look outside 228 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 1: like they did last year totally. And and and the 229 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 1: thing is is that let's just be honest. The guys 230 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 1: that have come free, whether it be through a trader 231 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 1: on the market, there typically there for a reason. This 232 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:10,679 Speaker 1: time of year, you're not going to find just another 233 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:13,200 Speaker 1: Blake Martinez or or and Burke's sitting out there. So 234 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 1: from that perspective, if it is a long term issue 235 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 1: here with Burke's, do you have to The thing that 236 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 1: Mike Patton is gonna have to do, much like last year, 237 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:22,560 Speaker 1: is kind of shuffle the deck a little bit. I 238 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 1: think they've made it pretty much a common thread in 239 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 1: that defense now that you're going to see the safety 240 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 1: playing in the box, specifically in those dime packages. You're 241 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 1: you know, Raven Green's, Josh Jones is those type of 242 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 1: ball players. The thing I like about Bolton is that 243 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 1: he kind of gives that dimension. He's sort of an 244 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 1: undersized inside linebacker six ft um, not your typical, you know, 245 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:50,440 Speaker 1: six six two eight kind of guy, and so, uh, 246 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 1: I don't know a lot about him, to be quite 247 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 1: honest with you, I know the Packer is very high 248 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:56,319 Speaker 1: on them. We'll see how that young man does realistically, though, 249 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 1: I think this is a big time for James Crawford. 250 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 1: Crawford talked about this offseason and he wanted to be 251 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 1: more of an inside linebacker. He didn't want to be 252 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 1: seen as a tweener anymore. He felt like he was 253 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 1: settling into that position. Uh. This is a guy that 254 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 1: I think is showing everything you want to see on 255 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:13,959 Speaker 1: special teams, aggressiveness, discipline, just sure tackling. It'll be a 256 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 1: big camp for him showing what he can do there. 257 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 1: And also for a guy like Summers. If Summers is 258 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 1: going to be leading this defense on those second team units, 259 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 1: especially in this game against Baltimore, that means that you're 260 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 1: pretty much the next guy up behind Blank Martinez. And 261 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 1: while Martinez has been incredibly durable for this defense, the 262 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:32,200 Speaker 1: loss of Burke's is one of the guys that makes 263 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 1: it even more important that they have a guy that 264 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 1: could step up it should something happen at number fifty. Yeah, 265 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 1: Summers is a really interesting one to me because we 266 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:43,959 Speaker 1: talked about when he was drafted in the seventh round 267 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 1: out of TCU. He was a converted quarterback from high school. 268 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 1: He started to learn defense in football as a college player. 269 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:54,839 Speaker 1: By the end of his college career, he was one 270 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 1: of the best defensive players for Gary Patterson, who has 271 00:12:57,520 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 1: had a really good defense at TCU for a long time. Now, 272 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 1: he comes here to Green Bay as a late round, 273 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 1: third day draft pick and he's learning a three four 274 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 1: scheme for the first time. So there there's a there's 275 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 1: a learning curve here with Summers, and I think that's 276 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:18,839 Speaker 1: I personally think that wearing the communication helmet and being 277 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 1: the guy who's calling the signals, I think that speeding 278 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 1: up the learning curve for him. I was talking to 279 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:26,559 Speaker 1: him last week and he feels a lot more comfortable 280 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 1: with calling out you know, the checks and adjustments and 281 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:32,320 Speaker 1: and working on the stunts. And of course he gets 282 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 1: fired up if he if the call is for him 283 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:37,200 Speaker 1: to blitz and go after the quarterback. We've seen him 284 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 1: come free a couple of times on Family Night and 285 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 1: in the preseason game. But this is a guy who's 286 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 1: picking everything up really really quickly. Um. We know the 287 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 1: athletic ability is there. Um he's uh, he's got an 288 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 1: opportunity now in front of him, as does Bolton and Crawford. 289 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 1: You know, as you mentioned um, but I think Summers. 290 00:13:57,320 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 1: Summers is a guy who's made a pretty strong pression 291 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 1: early on here, and uh, you know, let's see if 292 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:04,840 Speaker 1: he can continue to build on it. Yeah, Well, gives 293 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:06,959 Speaker 1: him a chance. Is sort of like when we talked 294 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 1: about Tony Brown a little bit. Now, Summers didn't toss 295 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:12,679 Speaker 1: off the charts like Brown did with his forty and everything, 296 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 1: but he tested really well. It's one of the reasons 297 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 1: why he got drafted was just his speed. Has a 298 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 1: pretty good vertical uh, and there were some questions coming 299 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 1: out of whether or not he could play to those statistics. 300 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 1: Be quite honest with you, Mike, I thought that was 301 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 1: one thing that he did well in that game against Houston. 302 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 1: He looked really quick. Laterally, he had some good sideline 303 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 1: to sideline speed. The thing is, especially as a rookie, 304 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 1: if you're gonna make mistakes, you want to make him 305 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 1: in a hunter miles per hour, especially at that inside 306 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 1: linebacker position we talked about in the past with Blake 307 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 1: Martinez and even to some extent Burke's last year. You 308 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 1: don't want to be hesitant. You want to be to 309 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 1: be decisive, and I think Summers brings that to the table. 310 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 1: The biggest thing that was being able to tie it 311 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 1: all together. And you know, there's one thing about being 312 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 1: aggressive in the tackle, it's another thing to miss the tackle. 313 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 1: You have to be able to do it. Now, you're 314 00:14:57,480 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 1: not gonna be facing Joe Webb every week, but you 315 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 1: are going to face running backs with that type of 316 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 1: speed and quickness that are going to be able to, 317 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 1: you know, cut on you. So I just think these 318 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 1: next three weeks are gonna be a big learning curve 319 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 1: for him, big learning experience for him. And we'll see 320 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 1: what you know, the packers can come up with their 321 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 1: trying to find someone is sitting next to Blake Martinez. Yeah, 322 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 1: Bolton is an interesting case too, as an undrafted guy, 323 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 1: he didn't really become a full time starter in college 324 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 1: at Oklahoma until his fifth year there. His red shirt 325 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 1: junior year, he got injured a nasty ankle injury that 326 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 1: cut that season short, and he had mentioned that there 327 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 1: were some questions outside, not from internally but outside as 328 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 1: to whether he'd even come back for his fifth year 329 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 1: senior year. After the injury. He did come back. He 330 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 1: was a starter, He was honorable mention all Big twelve. 331 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 1: Ended up not getting drafted, but this is uh. You know, 332 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 1: he's he's your classic undrafted guy who shows up every 333 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 1: day with something to prove and uh, and he's getting noticed. 334 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 1: He's working alongside Blake Martinez right now these last couple 335 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 1: of practices. He's another guy to keep an eye on. Yeah, totally. 336 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 1: And again, these guys that come in sometimes at that 337 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 1: linebacker position inside outside, you find a gem or two 338 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 1: there that can really solidify your defense. If they have 339 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 1: the right mindset and they have enough athleticism, we get 340 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 1: the job done. Yeah. Well, another thing, it wouldn't be 341 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 1: a training camp or preseason show without talking about the 342 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 1: wide receiver competition at some point here. But I bring 343 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 1: it up, and I know we've talked about a lot. 344 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 1: I bring it up right now because some things are 345 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 1: changing with what's going on. Trevor Davis has been injured unfortunately, 346 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 1: since the first joint practice with the Texans, so he's 347 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 1: been out for about a week now. And we just 348 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 1: saw eq St Brown uh in practice on Sunday. If 349 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 1: I'm getting my days right, he dropped out of practice. 350 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 1: The announcement was there's something with his knee that's bothering him. 351 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 1: We don't really know what to the extent of it, 352 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 1: but we've seen we're starting to see guys like Darius 353 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 1: Shepard and Alan Lazard and others. They're making plays and 354 00:16:57,320 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 1: they're getting noticed. And this this last three weeks, as 355 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 1: far as how this wide receiver competition is going to 356 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 1: sort itself out, is going to be really really interesting. 357 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:09,680 Speaker 1: Brian Goodkouin's last year, there wasn't an easy decision there 358 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 1: because you had to make a tough call on whether 359 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:13,640 Speaker 1: or not to keep Jake Kumerou and then the three 360 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 1: young receivers. He's had some tough decisions to make, which 361 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 1: is the way you wanted to be. Packers have been 362 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 1: very fortunate over the years that you know, they've been 363 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 1: putting this position. Geron Wallison once put them in that 364 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 1: position when he was a rookie, didn't end up making 365 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:29,200 Speaker 1: the team, but obviously he's turned into a contributor. It's 366 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 1: funny because I think every year before camp, everybody does 367 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 1: their little Okay, well, you're gonna keep this player and 368 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 1: this player is going to get cut, and this is 369 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:37,959 Speaker 1: what the fifty three is gonna be looking like. You 370 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:40,879 Speaker 1: can't do that with the receiving corps in any season. 371 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:42,879 Speaker 1: But I think specifically, this year has proven it to 372 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:46,359 Speaker 1: be the case, really, Mike, all ten of those guys 373 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:49,920 Speaker 1: competing behind Davante Adams have had their moments this past week. 374 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 1: It's sort of belonged to Alan Lazard, I feel, and 375 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:56,919 Speaker 1: that preseason game showed some really nice downfield speed. He 376 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 1: said he's always been kind of dogged on a little 377 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 1: bit for his speed, but I think you see some 378 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 1: explosiveness and his ability to sort of hit the second 379 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:06,879 Speaker 1: third gear there heck of a touchdown grab on a 380 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:09,199 Speaker 1: really nice throw by Tim Boyle, and and with that 381 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 1: type of size at six five being able to kind 382 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 1: of box out um whatever that Lonnie Johnson, that defensive 383 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:17,679 Speaker 1: back from the Texas being able to box him over 384 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:19,639 Speaker 1: for the twenty seven yard touchdown. It also draw the 385 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 1: defensive pass interference that helps set up that play that 386 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:24,160 Speaker 1: ended up getting him a four yard penalty. I think 387 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 1: Lazard has been really solid this week, and Mike would 388 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:30,119 Speaker 1: be remiss if we didn't talk about Darius Shepherd. Daris 389 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 1: Shepherd is the kind of guy that if you saw 390 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:33,399 Speaker 1: him at the mall, you would think he's probably a 391 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:36,200 Speaker 1: soccer player. He definitely looks like an athlete, but does 392 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 1: not look like an NFL football player, which I think 393 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:41,360 Speaker 1: probably played in the fact that he was a tryout guy. 394 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 1: He was not signed as a college free agent anywhere. 395 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 1: That the guy just makes plays and his shifting nous 396 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 1: underneath the league has shown that if you can stay 397 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 1: healthy at that size and you can stay on the field, 398 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:56,119 Speaker 1: there is a place for those players. I think Darius 399 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 1: Shepherd is a guy that practice one after another and 400 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 1: now even this the preseason games with that hit that 401 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:04,160 Speaker 1: he took on that touchdown, has shown he can stand 402 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 1: up to the rigors of this league and also be 403 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 1: a consistent football player. One thing to keep an eye 404 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 1: on whichever Davis being out and jo Will Davis being 405 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 1: released this past week, it was Darius Shepard was the 406 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:17,959 Speaker 1: one taking punts in practice this week. If he shows 407 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:21,880 Speaker 1: something on those punt return units, man Derris Shepherd's gonna 408 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 1: have a chance. Yeah. One other thing I want to 409 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:28,160 Speaker 1: say about the receiver competition. Um Geronimo Allison I thought 410 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 1: was having a fairly quiet camp for the first couple 411 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 1: of weeks, and then on Saturday, the first practice after 412 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 1: the opening preseason game, I actually thought he had a 413 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 1: very poor practice. He just dropped a couple of balls. 414 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 1: He didn't look like the Geronimo alson we're used to. 415 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 1: Number eighty one came out in Sunday's practice to play 416 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:49,919 Speaker 1: and he was all over the place. He made every 417 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:52,959 Speaker 1: play I thought. I thought he was the star of 418 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:55,359 Speaker 1: practice and really what was one of the longest full 419 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 1: pads workouts the Packers have had throughout this camp. And 420 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:02,439 Speaker 1: whether it's you know, coming back from that injury that 421 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 1: wiped out a good chunk of his season last year, 422 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:08,160 Speaker 1: everything about getting his feet under him, I think we're 423 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 1: starting to see, based on what I saw on Sunday, 424 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 1: we're really starting to see the Geronimo Allison that the 425 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 1: Packers are going to be counting on in absolutely and 426 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 1: there's a reason why that even after he had some 427 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:22,199 Speaker 1: of those struggles on Saturday, that the Packers had him 428 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:24,439 Speaker 1: still in there. When you go to your two minute offense, 429 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 1: it's him. It's Davante Adams as Marquis about the scantling, 430 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 1: it's Jimmy Graham that's gonna be the home base for them. 431 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 1: And the nice thing about Allison is he does have 432 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:34,719 Speaker 1: that education on the outside to be able to be 433 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:37,879 Speaker 1: you know, solid out there. But man, he has conditioned 434 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:40,159 Speaker 1: his body, he's conditioned his mind to playing in the 435 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:42,880 Speaker 1: middle of the field and playing in that slop position. 436 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 1: I think in that regard he's really shown something. He 437 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:49,120 Speaker 1: was making those spectacular catches again on Sunday that you've 438 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 1: been wanting to see from him, and if he can 439 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 1: build up some more of those in these next couple 440 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 1: of practices. Again, this is a guy that I think 441 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:57,639 Speaker 1: is going to be looking to get back on that 442 00:20:57,680 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 1: track he appeared to be on last year when he 443 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 1: was on pace for a thousand yards before those injuries 444 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 1: pumped it up. Yeah, I totally agree with you. Well 445 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:05,639 Speaker 1: with that, we're going to call it a wrap on 446 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:08,640 Speaker 1: this edition of Packers Unscripted. 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