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Speaker 2: From the Chris Westling podcast studio. It's Around the NFL.

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Speaker 2: I am Dan hans Us. Here are heroes, Greg Rosenthal,

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Speaker 2: Mark Sessler.

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Speaker 1: Week seven.

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Speaker 2: And you know, we've been doing this for a long time,

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Speaker 2: so there are times where we could be cynical old

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Speaker 2: bastards and complain about the games and the week that was.

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Speaker 1: Never this is not one of those weeks. Fun.

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Speaker 2: This was a fun, fun week of football and just

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Speaker 2: goes to show you when you looked at the slate

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Speaker 2: heading into Sunday, it was a little meh, and yet

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Speaker 2: we got a bunch of quirkers on Sunday, a lot

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Speaker 2: of games going down to the wire, gregy and ahead

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Speaker 2: of a hopefully when we close the show out another

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Speaker 2: scorcher between the Dolphins and Eagles.

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Speaker 1: And I probably just jinxed that, but so far, so great.

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Speaker 3: Never a jinx. It was alive in the newsroom today.

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Speaker 1: It was a lot.

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Speaker 3: I've in the Chris Westling podcast studio before we tape

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Speaker 3: with some hot button media talk that we'll have to

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Speaker 3: save for the off season Media Legacy pod.

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Speaker 4: We definitely trend in our pre show conversations to things

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Speaker 4: that couldn't be put out there in the public space,

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Speaker 4: which is fine. I don't agree with Jason Sumwaltz's concept

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Speaker 4: that we graded fifty five percent from PFF.

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Speaker 5: That's basically like the most of the New York Giants

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Speaker 1: That's not good. That's troubling. That's a tough one. Are

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Speaker 1: we that leaky? That's a bad number.

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Speaker 2: But the thing is we have what about eleven weeks

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Speaker 2: to figure it out or whatever?

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Speaker 1: All right, so how do we want to do this today?

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Speaker 1: I think what we should do is.

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Speaker 2: Even though the benchmark or kind of the hallmarker this

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Speaker 2: week is all these great games that went down to

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Speaker 2: the wire, let's start with one that was not close,

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Speaker 2: one that was decided by the end of the first quarter.

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Speaker 2: Because what it potentially means in our league to Baltimore.

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Speaker 1: Want second in goal halftime, slings it back of the en.

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Speaker 6: Zo, touchdown Ravens mark Andrews and the back of the

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Speaker 6: Enzo and the Ravens are back on the scoreboard.

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Speaker 7: His old reliable throws it out there form and lets

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Speaker 7: him go get it one of the most surehanded tight

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Speaker 7: ends that I ever seen, and look like it's a party,

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Speaker 7: and Detroit wasn't invited.

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Speaker 2: It was one of the most surprising blowouts of the

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty three season. The Ravens scored four touchdowns before

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Speaker 2: the Lions even had a first down.

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Speaker 1: It was a stunning stomping.

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Speaker 2: By the home team over a fellow division leader, thirty

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Speaker 2: eight to six in favor of the Ravens at M

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Speaker 2: and T Banks Stadium. Lamar Jackson threw for three point

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Speaker 2: fifty seven to three touchdowns ran for another nearly perfect

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Speaker 2: passer rating Greggy. The Ravens, you know they're one of

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Speaker 2: your eight or so favorite teams, and so you must

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Speaker 2: be over the moon right now unless it clashes with

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Speaker 2: the Lions, which I also believe is in your top eight.

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Speaker 2: If this was a MySpace situation, will take us through

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Speaker 3: Watching, I told you guys this game was coming, that

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Speaker 3: this Ravens team was a Super Bowl contender all week,

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Speaker 3: that they've got the bones of a team that can

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Speaker 3: be great. Not saying they've sown it all. You did

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Speaker 3: This was a crazy game for them to have sixteen

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Speaker 3: this sort of performance. But seeing Lamar Jackson back there

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Speaker 3: Like Zay Flowers opened down the field, Andrews looked as

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Speaker 3: And you just see an offense that to me has

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Speaker 4: That it's like it's a completely different approach under Todd

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Speaker 4: they've been They've been a frustrating watch on that side

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Speaker 5: Of this was what they did to Detroit's offense too.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, I don't know if there's any defense in the

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Speaker 3: and I don't think he had like a disastrous game.

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Speaker 3: It was just twenty eight nothing, you know, once four

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Speaker 2: You were saying kind of heading into this week, that

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Speaker 2: It is because this doesn't totally stun me in the

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Speaker 2: isn't the week to talk about that, because when you

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Speaker 2: have to be feeling very good about yourselves. Now, Dan

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Speaker 2: Campbell's the head coach of the Lions, it's always good

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Speaker 2: to hear from Dan, especially after some type of seismic

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Speaker 1: This is a negative one. Let's see what the coach

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Speaker 8: So those guys, they played well, they kicked their ass

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Speaker 8: and it's a credit to them. Lamar beat us. He

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and Lamar here's a stat over seven two percent

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Speaker 1: And he's been part of that with some turnover and he's.

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Speaker 3: I think you look at what they do on offense,

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Speaker 1: He's a force multiplier.

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Speaker 3: He just is flying all over the field and you

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Speaker 2: But will worry you in the sense that yes, and

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Speaker 2: they beat their previous four opponents by at least fourteen

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Speaker 2: it then it doesn't plant that seed of doubt when

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Speaker 2: I mean, are they going to be maybe a paper

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Speaker 2: As you go your you got stomped here they did.

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Speaker 4: And also they're a team on a journey like the

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Speaker 4: Ravens have been in these battles in these wars and

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Speaker 5: Detroit's in a new place, They're coaches in a new place.

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Speaker 4: They are all of them, and I like, I know

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Speaker 4: we I don't want to just hand out Mulligan's left

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Speaker 4: larger sample size of what they've been all season are

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Speaker 4: Detroit will learn from this versus going to a dark skid.

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Speaker 3: I have a question about their defensive line though. They've

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Speaker 3: they got crushed today. And some Lions fans are a

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Speaker 3: little on this too. So it's like no pass rush

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Speaker 1: At cornerback.

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Speaker 3: part of it. No pass rush plus bad cornerbacks, you

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Speaker 1: All right. That's how we start with a bud weapon.

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Speaker 1: Now let's move.

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Speaker 9: Before we move on, Dan, you tell me to get

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Speaker 9: in your ear and your mind. You about a tweet

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Speaker 9: you wanted to fly oh from the Ravens.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah an X, then thank you, Eric Roberts, fly

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Speaker 2: up the tweet. Mark yes, Bud? Oh, jeez, Bud. What

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Speaker 2: we got to get out of this thing where.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how you went a second?

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Speaker 2: How you got like farmed into this for NFL dot com.

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Speaker 2: You're doing these picks every week and here it is

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Speaker 2: the tweet from the Ravens. You're sure about that week

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Speaker 2: seven expert picks and you are one of six, fifth,

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Speaker 2: twelve what is it, twelve NFL media employees that all

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this isn't like you. I've mind. I got pulled

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Speaker 4: into what I already had promised to you guys. That

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: chicanery from the social media department. They went and just

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Speaker 1: But that means five got it right.

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Speaker 3: It was like a pick them game because I was

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Speaker 4: But again it's but to your point, Yeah, this exercise,

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: Like, we got Jeremiah and shook on there, but then

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Speaker 1: It makes no sense. Greg doesn't like media houses being doesn't.

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Speaker 1: Greg also wants to him to.

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Speaker 2: There's the Ravens logan next to Greg, and then the

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Speaker 4: Greg called him a spall team that I did.

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Speaker 1: I did pick them to win one of the few

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Speaker 3: But you could literally do that with any game, any

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Speaker 1: You can find someone that pick.

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Speaker 2: Park and I offer a long time come help me out. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I was approached by the same individual for this assignment,

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Speaker 1: And you know what I said. I just say yes

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Speaker 5: I just say yes to things. Oh can you come

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Speaker 4: Like sure, throw out my whole f and Saturday just

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Speaker 1: I know, but you are like not the person I

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Speaker 4: I didn't help do that recently for anyone. But I'm

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Speaker 2: And you can't picture the sess dog taking a piano

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Speaker 3: I would potentially ask Mark just to hear the excuse

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Speaker 1: It would be created. It would I'd come up with

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Speaker 2: But wait again, it's okay, okay, well yeah you could

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Speaker 2: you can't do it. Tell him something came up with

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Speaker 4: Who is She needs a lot of help all the

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Speaker 4: time connecting with her father. It's time to reconnect through

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Speaker 4: all these years. And I said yes to the nifel.

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Speaker 4: It's time to say yes to someone else.

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: It's that easy, right, Eric, thank you. Let's get Let's

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Speaker 2: get you know who on the line. All right, let's

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Speaker 2: head to we got we got Mark Nyson lubed up now,

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Speaker 10: Whatson and Harris Browns from the one. This is the

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Speaker 10: and Harris Walker gives the Kareem Hunt pushing, pushing touchdown.

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Speaker 1: Durream hot got it across the goal line.

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Speaker 11: He didn't wait for the official card. Are the cardiac

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Speaker 11: huge touchdown on fourth down. You knew you could run

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Speaker 11: it at that point. It didn't matter.

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Speaker 1: That was the last play.

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Speaker 2: Wow, yeah, bongo time.

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Speaker 1: Wait two weeks in a row. Well, Jets got it

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Speaker 1: got the bongos last.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, Jet's got It's on in New York City right.

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Speaker 1: Well it's I mean, this was a bongo worthy game. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And that.

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Speaker 2: Was bongo worthy. Call from Andrews Ciciliano, our friend and

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Speaker 1: He pointed at Mark though.

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Speaker 4: Andrew liarly sorry, Yes, are you know the wonderful Jim Donovan?

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Speaker 1: Yes, cram Hunt just.

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Speaker 2: Broke the fame of the goal line where the bongos

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Speaker 1: What'll we doing? We're shutting down the bongos.

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Speaker 2: The band went away. If you're gonna play the bongos,

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Speaker 9: Yeah, song's not that long. We had a pause there

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Speaker 3: We did have like a twenty five second Jim Donovan pause.

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Speaker 1: Though that was not my fault. Spreem Hunt just broke

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Speaker 2: Goal line in the final seconds in Indianapolis, the deciding

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Speaker 2: score and one of the wildest back and forth affairs

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Speaker 2: of the year. The Browns force the gardner means chew

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Speaker 2: fumble on the ensuing drive, clinching a thirty nine thirty

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Speaker 2: eight win over the Colts. Mark Uh, We'll get into

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Speaker 2: the latest and the enduring Deshaun Watson injury sagin a bit,

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Speaker 2: but let's start with the game.

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Speaker 1: How did your Cleveland brown to pull this one off?

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Speaker 4: If you look at the last two weeks, and maybe

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Speaker 4: Andrew Siciliano is something of a lucky charm.

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Speaker 1: Does he sound younger when he's making these calls. I

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Speaker 6: You love.

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Speaker 5: They in the years off him, like, cause these are

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Speaker 2: Imagine the twenty four year olds of Siliano Yum spicy.

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Speaker 1: That's what they say. That's what they've said.

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Speaker 4: But like two weeks in a row, these are games

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Speaker 4: that other versions of the Cleveland Browns, and they're a

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Speaker 4: They would have found a way to lose last week

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Speaker 4: to the Niners, and this there were so many opportunities

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Speaker 4: you know, three weeks in a row where Deshaun Watson

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Speaker 4: for a little bit, very unattractive as a player, and

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Speaker 4: like did not do a good job. But this was

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Speaker 4: the game that I've waited for. Miles Garrett like has

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Speaker 1: Watt, where TJ.

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Speaker 4: Watts sort of specialty, his magic power is like, oh,

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Speaker 4: the offense isn't producing or are they're ups and downs

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna do something as a defensive player to completely

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Speaker 1: Watt.

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Speaker 4: And I always felt like Miles Garrett he has those moments,

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Speaker 4: where it's like his compiling stats where it's like it's

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Speaker 4: not his fault, but he's not in a game changing moment.

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Speaker 4: Today though, the first half of Miles Garrett, it was

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Speaker 4: the greatest half I've ever seen him play in my life.

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Speaker 4: Two incredibly important sacks, two force fumbles, and a play

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Speaker 4: if you've not seen this because this typically gets flagged

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Speaker 4: and I'll tell you one time when they were playing

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Speaker 4: this is literally a completely different type of human being

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Speaker 1: And today was one of the best examples I've seen

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Speaker 4: In a key moment where the Cults were lining up

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Speaker 4: Miles Garrett just literally leaps over the offensive lineman, multiple

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Speaker 4: and then just seamlessly waltz is in and blocks the pick.

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Speaker 1: It reminded me.

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Speaker 2: I tweeted about this, that xed about this, that Lawrence

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Speaker 2: Taylor in the original Techmobile.

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Speaker 1: Yes, he could do that too.

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Speaker 2: You can always do a non tale extra pointer or

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Speaker 2: Only Miles Garrett's a real person and he's doing this

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Speaker 2: And as Greg you would say, and it's one of

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Speaker 1: Wow, I do need to get away from that.

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Speaker 3: But a couple of sacks on the game too, like

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Speaker 3: me where their defense, you know, has a lot of

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Speaker 3: regrets that they give up four hundred and fifty six

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Speaker 3: yards to the Minshew Colts. Now part of that is

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Speaker 1: How did that happen? Mark?

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Speaker 4: I thought so, yes, it's the right time for that,

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Speaker 4: because the Minschhew of last week with the fumble, the

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Speaker 4: Minshew thing doesn't last for more than a couple weeks,

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Speaker 4: idea that Jonathan Taylor might not come back and be

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Speaker 1: He looks that way.

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Speaker 4: And I think there were defensive breakdowns today for Cleveland, which.

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Speaker 3: Is that's the way you beat the Shorts defense is

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Speaker 3: you throw some bomps because they're going to be aggressive.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about Deshaun Watson here, because it's fair to

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Speaker 2: wonder you know how the injury is being handled, what

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Speaker 2: the truth is behind the injury, and it got even

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Speaker 2: murkier this week, so he was it looked like he

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Speaker 2: was trending toward not playing this week. Then late in

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Speaker 2: he's on the field in this game, but not for long.

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Speaker 1: He's struggling.

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Speaker 2: He goes into the blue ten to be checked for

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Speaker 2: a concussion, ruled not to have suffered a concussion by

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Speaker 2: the game and PJ Walker finishes it. Here is what

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Speaker 2: Deshaun Watson had to say after his head coach Kevin

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Speaker 2: Stefanski said they kept him out to protect himself.

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Speaker 12: No, it was just a medical decision with the staff

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Speaker 12: and they felt like the decision was best to you know,

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Speaker 3: It's weird because the question was like, what was the decision.

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Speaker 3: Did you think you could make your shoulder worse? And

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Speaker 3: Watson will play next week.

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Speaker 1: So did he hurt his shoulder today? So I'm confused.

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Speaker 3: So he didn't answer it. That's why that was the

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Speaker 3: answer to that question. And yeah, the Browns never completely

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Speaker 3: clarify that.

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Speaker 4: But on the play where he went out like he does,

445
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Speaker 4: hit his helmet, the back of his helmet hard, hard

446
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Speaker 4: on the ground, and so I could see where a

447
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Speaker 4: concussion concern would come up. He also though, was like,

448
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Speaker 4: but they said he passed the protocol, so he passed that.

449
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Speaker 4: But his arm, his throwing arm was sort of hanging

450
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Speaker 4: the way that we saw Anthony Richardson like we can

451
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Speaker 4: the same play.

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Speaker 5: It was just hanging. I thought, maybe he's just I

453
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Speaker 5: think he aggrevates.

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Speaker 4: The Browns are conservative with their injuries, maybe more than

455
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Speaker 4: some teams would be. I would say the other thing

456
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Speaker 4: would be a bigger concern is like he threw a

457
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Speaker 4: terrible interception and nearly through a second that simply was

458
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Speaker 4: an interception, just with it right, But he was hurt.

459
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Speaker 4: So I think I think I think the thing is

460
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Speaker 4: like he's not healthy and he should play. He said

461
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Speaker 4: this week that he may not be healthy this entire

462
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Speaker 4: season because of the shoulder things.

463
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Speaker 5: So I don't they're a little bit lost a quarterback.

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Speaker 1: On the field today. I don't know. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: They certainly aren't handling this very well. I would. I

466
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Speaker 1: think that's safe to say.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, at this point, it's very strange because I feel

468
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Speaker 3: like the Browns are having one season and this is

469
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Speaker 3: a season of crazy wins.

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Speaker 1: In the last couple of weeks.

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Speaker 3: It's a season of huge defense, and now it's a

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Speaker 3: season of like, wow, PJ. Walker not exactly playing well

473
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Speaker 3: of but finding a way to get a win. And

474
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Speaker 3: then Deshaun Watson is off to the side and he's

475
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Speaker 3: sort of having this other season yea, and they're like

476
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Speaker 3: not the same, you're right seasons. And I want you to,

477
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Speaker 3: you know, speak someone like the other Browns because you

478
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Speaker 3: are enjoying this game. I haven't seen you as excited

479
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Speaker 3: in the newsroom watching a Browns game in a while.

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Speaker 3: And they are. They're a legit team. I just don't know.

481
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Speaker 3: I don't know where they're going, but they are legit.

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Speaker 1: They're there there.

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Speaker 4: I will say this because I think Stefanski has sort

484
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Speaker 4: of been like a hot seat contender. I think he's

485
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Speaker 4: done a good job coaching this team up through a

486
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Speaker 4: quarterback abyss, someone like Jerome Ford who came in today

487
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Speaker 4: and sixty nine yard touchdown gallop on the opening drive.

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Speaker 1: You don't not Nick Chubb.

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Speaker 4: You don't if you're starting quarterback or Nick Chubb, and

490
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Speaker 4: you're getting these performances from other people around them, so

491
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Speaker 4: they're enjoyable for that element of resiliency. And I think Stefanski,

492
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Speaker 4: who did not do a good job coaching this team

493
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Speaker 4: a year ago, I think he did actually with Jacoby Brissett,

494
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Speaker 4: but in general, like your coach of the year from

495
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Speaker 4: a couple of years ago, didn't look like it.

496
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Speaker 3: But the basically an effort. Deshaun Watson's not playing, I think.

497
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Speaker 3: So here's the thing to me what it feels like.

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Speaker 2: It's not dissimilar to how I feel about watching my

499
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Speaker 2: own team right now, where they're a fun watch because

500
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Speaker 2: they're a little plucky, especially with PJ. Walker playing. But

501
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Speaker 2: if you take out Nick Chubb and if Deshaun Watson's

502
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Speaker 2: gonna be an injury riddled mess, like there's a ceiling

503
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Speaker 2: on the on the season. Oh there's a skull here,

504
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Speaker 2: of course, is to win the Super Bowl, So like

505
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Speaker 2: this is as fun as these games are, like the

506
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Speaker 2: need if there's a path to Watson getting healthy, they

507
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Speaker 2: need to get on that right path because that's what

508
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Speaker 2: can make them truly dangerous in the AFC, because.

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Speaker 1: The Walker thing is that there's an expiration date there

510
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Speaker 1: that's gonna limit you. But how about that mark? Four

511
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Speaker 1: and too? Though so wild games back to now, maybe they've.

512
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Speaker 3: Bought themselves sometimes if they do need to sit Watson,

513
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Speaker 3: they found a way to win enough games that maybe

514
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Speaker 3: they're they're in the mix when he comes back.

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Speaker 2: They already had their buy was they were resting the

516
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Speaker 2: shoulder then. So they can't seem to make progress in

517
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Speaker 2: up front. But in terms of winning football, what are they?

518
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Speaker 1: Four and two? Now? Four and two? How about that mark?

519
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Speaker 1: How about that? I approve the Bills.

520
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Speaker 2: Bills fans like Eric Roberts do not approve of the

521
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Speaker 2: arc of the season so far. Tremendously frustrating, and that

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Speaker 2: continued at Foxborough today.

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Speaker 13: A second of goal to go from the left catchwe

524
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Speaker 13: Andrew's over the football to snap it back Jones.

525
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Speaker 1: Cassick looks to us.

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Speaker 14: Right, crossing to the right, got it he touchdown.

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Speaker 1: He's going to Patriots.

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Speaker 15: There he is Mike Kasicki off the side of him,

529
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Speaker 15: Milk Carton catching the day winner.

530
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Speaker 1: But a little look kid from Jokes.

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Speaker 15: To the right slot and it is the drive that

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Speaker 15: back Jolks has stated.

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Speaker 2: I mean wackling Micah Sicki is like Tony Gonzalez in

534
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Speaker 2: nineteen ninety seven?

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Speaker 6: Where is?

536
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Speaker 1: Where is? Where is Mike Kisicki bin.

537
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Speaker 2: Bob Sochi in the Sension power bottle with the call

538
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Speaker 2: for WBZ.

539
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Speaker 1: Mac Jones give him that extension.

540
00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:11,840
Speaker 2: Greggy through a one yard like that to Mike Aseki

541
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Speaker 2: with twelve seconds to play, and the Patriots steal went

542
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Speaker 2: away from the Bills. Twenty nine, twenty five mark a

543
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Speaker 2: weird one for me personally tracking from Afar because I'm

544
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Speaker 2: just kind of following this game on the scroll.

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Speaker 1: The Cleveland Indie game was the same thing. It's like,

546
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Speaker 1: what the hell is going on?

547
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Speaker 2: Yeah, there are multiple points where it appeared the game

548
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Speaker 2: was decided in favor of each of the teams.

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Speaker 1: How did the underdog Pats come out ahead?

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Speaker 4: I think this was sort of the team that if

551
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Speaker 4: you were Bill Belichick and his like small cadre of

552
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Speaker 4: assistant coaches, this is the team that you thought you would.

553
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Speaker 1: Get his family members basically essentially his.

554
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Speaker 4: Sons and you know, like friends that keep secrets for

555
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Speaker 4: nephew seven.

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Speaker 5: They like it doesn't look like it because if you look.

557
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Speaker 4: At like, for instance, like Ramandri Stevenson's line box score,

558
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Speaker 4: like doesn't look impressive.

559
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Speaker 5: But I thought he ran the ball as well as

560
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Speaker 5: he has all season.

561
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Speaker 4: And Mac Jones played a better game than he's played

562
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Speaker 4: all season, and like they got little contributions on offense,

563
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Speaker 4: and their defense looked tighter. And you're getting a Bills

564
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Speaker 4: team that I don't know if it's their DNA because

565
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:20,920
Speaker 4: things change, but this is weeks in a row where

566
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Speaker 4: they come out flat. They looked completely at a sink

567
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Speaker 4: early on. They have scored what is going on here

568
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Speaker 4: with one of these numbers. They've been outscored like an

569
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Speaker 4: insane amount in the first half, like, and they just

570
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Speaker 4: to come out as a flat team.

571
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Speaker 2: They really had no business winning last week now against

572
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Speaker 2: the Giants in their building on Sunday Night football. The

573
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Speaker 2: week before it didn't go well, Greg, And now you

574
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Speaker 2: can't find a way to close out the Patriots. And

575
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Speaker 2: you know, I as soon as you saw Matt Mulano

576
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Speaker 2: go out. I wondered what was going to happen with

577
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Speaker 2: their defense, And again I didn't see the game, but

578
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Speaker 2: I'm just curious, like, is that one of those Janga

579
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Speaker 2: pieces where they're going to struggle to get big stops

580
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,000
Speaker 2: all season without kind of heart and soul there, d.

581
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Speaker 3: Well, you let Mac carve you up twenty five for

582
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Speaker 3: thirty two hundred and seventy two yards in the second

583
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Speaker 3: half of that game. The only stop they get was

584
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Speaker 3: on a forced fumble, and otherwise the Patriots had a

585
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,719
Speaker 3: field goal, touchdown and a touchdown, and the Patriots are

586
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Speaker 3: up or behind and up in this game rather twenty

587
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Speaker 3: two to ten. They just went on a touchdown drive

588
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 3: in the fourth quarter. They played a very clean game,

589
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:24,840
Speaker 3: market am I right?

590
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Speaker 1: Yeah?

591
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,880
Speaker 3: Then then the Bills get a two minute, five play,

592
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Speaker 3: seventy five yard drive, then they force a fumble and

593
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:34,679
Speaker 3: then Josh Allen ends up running it in, and you think, like,

594
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:36,959
Speaker 3: there is no way at that point that the Bills

595
00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:41,359
Speaker 3: defense lets the Patriots get to overtime, even much less

596
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:44,240
Speaker 3: lose the game. So that's very surprising to me, Like,

597
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:46,240
Speaker 3: what did you see out of the Bill's defense here?

598
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Speaker 4: They allowed a team that's looked completely dead on arrival

599
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,199
Speaker 4: on offense to make plays, and they got ran on

600
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Speaker 4: in key situations. Mac Jones played I thought, the best

601
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Speaker 4: game he's played all season, and it's just like, I

602
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,159
Speaker 4: don't know where the Patriots team was, but this is

603
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:03,720
Speaker 4: a Bills team that did not live up to the

604
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,919
Speaker 4: moment today. I mean, this is the against the Jaguars,

605
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 4: against the Giants in today. Three weeks in a row,

606
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Speaker 4: they've come out flat, and I guess just like in

607
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 4: the scope of these seasons, it leaves me I already

608
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:20,120
Speaker 4: think we had some suspicions about the Bill's floor when

609
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 4: they don't kind of operate the way that they should.

610
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:24,959
Speaker 5: And it's just an example of like, I don't know,

611
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:25,680
Speaker 5: is this team.

612
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 4: Gonna go win multiple games on the road in the playoffs.

613
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Speaker 4: It doesn't feel like it to me. And I think

614
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Speaker 4: Josh Allen today was one of the reasons they didn't

615
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:35,919
Speaker 4: perform well. It's like it's not always in spite of

616
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Speaker 4: everyone else. It's like Josh Allen sinks them at times.

617
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:41,200
Speaker 4: I feel like it just was not a great game.

618
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:42,440
Speaker 4: He didn't ever slipt that today.

619
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Speaker 3: Very surprising against this team though, right they've owned the

620
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Speaker 3: Patriots in this McDermott Belichick rivalry.

621
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Speaker 1: Here's some stats.

622
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Speaker 2: So the Pats average four yards of carry, which doesn't

623
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 2: seem like a big deal because everybody should do that,

624
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 2: But they had been averaging less than three and a

625
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 2: half a game going into this game.

626
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Speaker 1: So they ran the ball like you were saying.

627
00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 2: Mac Jones was pressured on just twenty percent of his

628
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 2: dry ESPN, so he was able to sit back and

629
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:05,360
Speaker 2: find open receivers.

630
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Speaker 1: Against a bad pitch right line. So they weren't.

631
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Speaker 2: They weren't doing the job on defense and on offense.

632
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,199
Speaker 2: The slow starts and Eric, we talked a little bit

633
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 2: before the show that they only seemed to be able

634
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 2: to get things going when they fall behind. Over the

635
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 2: past three games, this team has averaged less than six

636
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 2: points in the first three quarters of the game.

637
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Speaker 1: And and sometimes you can, you have.

638
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,439
Speaker 2: The ability to come back and steal these games, like

639
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,159
Speaker 2: they did last week, But then other times it's not

640
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,400
Speaker 2: going to work out. And they're supposed to be better

641
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:34,359
Speaker 2: than this, Eric, Yeah, and they're not.

642
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Speaker 9: It's it's like pulling teeth until the end of the

643
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 9: fourth quarter. They mean, they fell short against the Jaguars

644
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 9: in London, where they had the little spur and they

645
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 9: put himself in a kind of a spot to maybe

646
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 9: steal it where they had a quick little rebound and

647
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 9: you know it's like they cut it close. They had

648
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 9: a weird hooking ladder. They got lucky last week. You

649
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 9: know they probably could have got a PI call that

650
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 9: would have thrown that game the other way. And then yeah,

651
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 9: this week, they the offense is asleep at the wheel,

652
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 9: feels like until until way late with it like it's

653
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 9: they shouldn't be they it's it's tough.

654
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Speaker 1: It's real tough. Week seven.

655
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 3: Week seven is early for a team like the Bills,

656
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 3: where it's almost like the playoffs only matter three losses,

657
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 3: you don't have three losses. But it doesn't. It doesn't

658
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 3: put them. They're just such a strange team because they

659
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Speaker 3: were the number one team in DVOA heading into last

660
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 3: week because they were stopped. They've had these weird like

661
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 3: huge downs and huge ups, and that's surprising to me

662
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Speaker 3: for a veteran team. Now, there was one schematic, one

663
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 3: thing with the Patriot dophinsive line, and I think could

664
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 3: help change their season. They put mike O and Wuennu,

665
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 3: who's been a very good right tackle when they played

666
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 3: their out at right tackle. He'd been at guard when healthy,

667
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 3: and they got cold strange back there their first repick,

668
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 3: so they had a couple spots that looked better. The

669
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 3: right tackle position was the worst in the entire NFL,

670
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 3: so maybe that helps there off when.

671
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 4: They went on this run of dominance earlier in the year,

672
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 4: though you look back, it's like they dominated the Raiders

673
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 4: and the Commanders and the Dolphins. That's a big win

674
00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 4: when I watched this team, because I think Dalton Kincaid

675
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 4: had a nice game today, and you thought that would

676
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,719
Speaker 4: be consistent throughout the year. But like, if it's not

677
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 4: Stephan Diggs, there's a lack of weapons on this in

678
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 4: this offense. And I think we felt that way like

679
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 4: going into the year, that like they were they gonna

680
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 4: go sign DeAndre Hopkins or one of these guys, and

681
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 4: they didn't do it. And there's just periods and moments

682
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 4: throughout some of these lower echelon performances by the Bills

683
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 4: where someone's missing right.

684
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 1: A couple of things here.

685
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 2: Here's just because I like this quote David Andrews Patriot Center.

686
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 1: This one gave me, gave me feels.

687
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 16: You know it feels good.

688
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 1: It feels good.

689
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 2: You can go home and you know, having a beer

690
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 2: sitting outside and you feel real good. And I like

691
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 2: the idea of just going outside and sitting outside having

692
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 2: a beer.

693
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 4: Well, it's been a nice they've not had a lot

694
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 4: of beer drinking Sundays.

695
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 2: Like a crisp like New England Shore mid to late October. Like,

696
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 2: he's gonna sit he's gonna be a little sore, but

697
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 2: he's gonna have that beer.

698
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 1: I like that.

699
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 2: The other the other quote, I want to play for you. Yeah,

700
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 2: you like put on a little like you know, maybe.

701
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 3: One of the first two like Band of Horses albums, right,

702
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 3: especially a guy who he'd gone to three straight Super

703
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 3: Bowls at one point.

704
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 1: This is dark. He's going to need more than one.

705
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 2: You can smell, you know, you smell that chimney, you know,

706
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 2: the chimney smoke in the air and that then you

707
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 2: could maybe a breath, but you're bundled up, Crisp.

708
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 3: I don't know if there's I don't know if the

709
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 3: fires have started yet, right, I don't Foxboro.

710
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 1: Well, what I mean, it's almost November. I lived there.

711
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 1: Cold there, it's cold. Uh, here's Bill Belichick.

712
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 2: Uh, and this was actually really nice to see because

713
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 2: Bill Belichick won his three hundredth game of his career.

714
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 2: That's third all time, and uh, he obviously was looking

715
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 2: inward and was quite verbose and sharing, Uh, this special

716
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 2: moment for him.

717
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 1: So let's listen to it.

718
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 3: It's your reaction to becoming the third head coach with

719
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 3: three hundred wins behind Don Shula and George Hellis.

720
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 8: I mean, it's great.

721
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 2: I'm really more focused on, you know, our team in

722
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 2: this year and worry about that later.

723
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 3: I mean, that was you actually got me for some reason.

724
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 3: I don't know what you were going to throw it too.

725
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, because he was. There was a

726
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 3: great clip of him I tweeted out of him at

727
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 3: the Patriots Hall of Fame ceremony this weekend. I've never

728
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 3: seen him looser and happier talking about Dante Scarnekia, who

729
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 3: got inducted to the Hall of Fame, like telling jokes

730
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 3: and like making impressions and like, I've actually never heard

731
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 3: him literally speak like that.

732
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 1: And I was like, Wow, Bill, maybe Bill, this was

733
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 1: like you know in concert thing right? Absolutely No, he

734
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 1: was gushing.

735
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 3: Hey, warm, shout out to Mike Rabil also got inducted

736
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 3: on Sunday. I love the fact that he ended his

737
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 3: halftime induction speech to the Patriots Hall of Fame, who

738
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 3: was like, all right, I'm out of here. We got

739
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 3: a game to win. I was like, oh wow, I

740
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 3: hope Crave Digger is not watching this. We got a

741
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 3: game to it. I love it.

742
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 1: Thank for all those touchdowns.

743
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 4: I thought this was surprising because we've already sort of

744
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 4: talked about, you know, flashpoint focus that like maybe this

745
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 4: whole Belichick thing ends with New England. Like Rapaport brought

746
00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 4: this bomb this morning that Belichick signed a lucrative multi

747
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 4: year extension in the offseason.

748
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 1: So if Kraft was already.

749
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 4: Thinking, and I get all that that's just money, it's

750
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 4: Crafts a billionaire, So like.

751
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 3: I want to know what that means exactly right, Tom

752
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 3: Kerran kind of following two things, lucrative and multi year.

753
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 5: Well, those two things are words that have meaning.

754
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 3: Tom Kerrn followed up believing that multi year meant twenty

755
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 3: three and twenty four and that it wouldn't affect the decision.

756
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,959
Speaker 1: Like he was not hired for this season.

757
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 3: They basically ripped that it was a way of their

758
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 3: kind of spinning it, whereas like they ripped up the

759
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 3: old contract that it's probably pass.

760
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 4: And again, I think Robert Kraft could buy forty two

761
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 4: houses and decide he doesn't want them.

762
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 1: So I get that, So it's not I also thought.

763
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 2: But in the minority on the show, that I don't

764
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 2: think he's going to lose his job after this year,

765
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 2: but he'd be more likely to get another shot, maybe

766
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 2: a new quarterback.

767
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 1: And maybe that's.

768
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 3: Well, who knows, there's ten there's literally ten gars that

769
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 3: that's the biggest factor is how these ten games go.

770
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 3: If they if a bunch of them go like this,

771
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 3: he'll do fine.

772
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 1: They'll win a few games, you know they will.

773
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I mean all the fans out there, like

774
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 2: Brockman with the Rich Eisen Show. I like Brockman, but

775
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 2: you know they're like pounding the table like, oh, we're

776
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 2: gonna get the first roll up pick. We're tanking for

777
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 2: Caleb and all this stuff. We're not rooting for you

778
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 2: to get that. Yeah, no, why would you're not like, oh,

779
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:15,320
Speaker 2: maybe the Patriots will look out and get the first

780
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 2: overall pick.

781
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 4: No, what a fairy tale with that delight us?

782
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 5: So I don't need that to happen. You got it, Greg,

783
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 5: You've got twenty years.

784
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 16: Great.

785
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,319
Speaker 3: A lot of a lot of bad teams lost today though,

786
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 3: is a good day for the one win teams. They're

787
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 3: not too far down in the Peccan order still. I

788
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 3: think they're at the fifth pick. All right, Okay, I'm trapping,

789
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 3: I'm tracking it.

790
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:37,919
Speaker 1: Let's take a.

791
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 2: Break and then we will continue onward. All right, Okay,

792
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 2: so a bunch of close games there. Uh, here's a

793
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 2: game that disappointed me. Like, I'm like, my dog is

794
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:52,840
Speaker 2: he just turned one and he's still you know, he's

795
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:56,360
Speaker 2: essentially a teenager at this point, so he'll he'll act

796
00:34:56,400 --> 00:35:00,319
Speaker 2: out when we leave him. Sometimes he gets up, so

797
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 2: he'll jump up and grab something and like he ate a.

798
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 1: Box of cookies and we're like, gosh, he gonna die.

799
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 1: Like he didn't die, which was good. What kind of cookies?

800
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 1: Like were they?

801
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 2: They were ginger dark chocolate ginger cookies I got from

802
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:15,400
Speaker 2: England for my wife and she's like I don't like ginger.

803
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 2: It's like, oh great, the big hell there and then

804
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,360
Speaker 2: the dog ate them and was like heaving for a

805
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:20,839
Speaker 2: couple of days.

806
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 1: It's a double l good job by me.

807
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 2: Anyway, My point being I'm disappointed both in captain but

808
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 2: still love him, and also the potential shootout between the

809
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 2: Chargers and Chiefs.

810
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:36,879
Speaker 1: Hmm, that wasn't Kelsey's in the backfield is an h BAC.

811
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 1: They're gonna fake a handoff.

812
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,880
Speaker 17: Now they're gonna go on a pass inside and dragging

813
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 17: into the insign tuch doown Cansas City.

814
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:51,319
Speaker 1: Him.

815
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 17: The Chiefs get the touchdown with a little bit of

816
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 17: a formation trickery. They had Travis Kelsey lined up in

817
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 17: the backfield. He ran a running back route and Kelsey,

818
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:06,359
Speaker 17: who lined up in the backfield, just ducked inside and

819
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 17: was able to drag three Chargers almost lost the ball

820
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 17: as he hit the ball up above his helmet and

821
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:14,919
Speaker 17: the Charger were trying to rip it out.

822
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 2: All right, Bob w Z excuse me. That was Mitch

823
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 2: Holtis with WDAF with a call. That was a funny

824
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 2: play because Travis Kelcey wasn't really opening and Canarius Tony

825
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,880
Speaker 2: flared out out of the backfield and he was all

826
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 2: by himself for an easy touchdown and Mahomes is like, no,

827
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:36,919
Speaker 2: keylor Swift's here someon.

828
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 3: He was going to fire this ball into Kelsey threw

829
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 3: it low. Kelsey had a great athletic thought process, like

830
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 3: I really.

831
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:46,360
Speaker 2: Do think it factors in, and he made the catch

832
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:49,400
Speaker 2: and then just lifted the ball above his head like

833
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 2: I took the kids to see.

834
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 1: H there's an old time theater in the town I live.

835
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 2: Abbott and Costello meet Frankenstein and like he's like Strange,

836
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 2: the guy Glenn Strange who played Frank Sign. He's just

837
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:04,360
Speaker 2: holding over his head the ball and it's like, hey, Chargers,

838
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:06,880
Speaker 2: come back to us, knock the ball out of his hands,

839
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 2: and instead they just let him get pushed into the

840
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:14,240
Speaker 2: end zone. It was the third touchdown for Patrick Mahomes

841
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 2: in the first half. He finished with four, and the

842
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 2: Chiefs end up cruising to a thirty one to seventeen win.

843
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:21,760
Speaker 2: The reason I was disappointed because this game was seventeen seventeen.

844
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 2: I want to say about early to mid second quarter.

845
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 2: There were four touchdowns scored in seven minutes and five

846
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 2: seconds of game time in the first half at one point,

847
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 2: and you know, listen, in the early games, I went

848
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 2: from watching and I'm like, God, we're going to talk

849
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,240
Speaker 2: about it later, but it was when we're watching Baker

850
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:42,279
Speaker 2: Mayfield and Desmond Ritter in the early slate. Tow all

851
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 2: of a sudden, I have Herbert and Mahomes in the

852
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 2: late slate, and this game starts out beautifully, and all

853
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:49,759
Speaker 2: I could think to myself is this is going to

854
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 2: be the game everyone's talking about. Not quite, because the

855
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 2: Chiefs defense greg, which it's been lights out pretty much

856
00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 2: all year, once again once they kind and of course

857
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 2: corrected completely shut down LA in the end of the

858
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 2: second quarter throughout the second half, shutting them out in fact,

859
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 2: and it's an easy win for the Chiefs.

860
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:11,240
Speaker 1: As a result.

861
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:15,320
Speaker 3: It's another second half where the Chargers offense gets absolutely nothing.

862
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 1: They're just not built to be like this.

863
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:20,360
Speaker 3: And you do have to give the credit though to

864
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 3: the Chiefs defense, because it's now week after week, it's

865
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 3: now coming against some good quarterbacks and it's very often

866
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:30,439
Speaker 3: at the linebacker position. Bolton Nick Bolton hurt his wrist

867
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 3: late in this game, and I think that would be

868
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:32,719
Speaker 3: a big loss.

869
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 1: Located rist.

870
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 3: Okay, that's tough, and we'll see like when and how

871
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,280
Speaker 3: he can play through that if they put a cast

872
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 3: on that, but that could be a while. But Willie

873
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,280
Speaker 3: Gay was everywhere in this game, and when Drew Trankles

874
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 3: needed to play this year.

875
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 1: He's been awesome.

876
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 3: I just love the way Spags is deploying these guys.

877
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:53,799
Speaker 3: And oh, by the way, like sometimes maybe you will

878
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,400
Speaker 3: get four hundred and twenty four yards and four touchdowns

879
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:57,760
Speaker 3: from a Homes plus a good defense.

880
00:38:57,840 --> 00:38:58,279
Speaker 1: Yeah you're not.

881
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 2: Kind of been waiting for that, and I know, like

882
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:03,360
Speaker 2: fantasy owners been waiting for that, Like, where's the Mahomes

883
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 2: explosion game. Here's some crazy stats. Because to the credit

884
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:09,319
Speaker 2: of the Chargers, and I don't want to give them

885
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 2: a ton of credit because they kind of drive me

886
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:15,839
Speaker 2: crazy watching them. They tightened up defensively in the second

887
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 2: half of themselves the second half themselves and kept this

888
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 2: from turning into a fifty burger situation. But the Chiefs

889
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 2: had three hundred and thirty three yards of offense at halftime.

890
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 2: Travis Kelcey's stat line at half nine for one forty

891
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 2: three and one on nine targets. Patrick mahomes Is stat

892
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:36,279
Speaker 2: line and a half twenty for twenty three for three

893
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:38,959
Speaker 2: hundred and twenty one yards, three touchdowns and a pick,

894
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 2: another touchdown called back on penalty that led to a

895
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 2: field goal. And I mean, listen, Mahomes's beauty personified as

896
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 2: a quarterback. But the Charges were embarrassing their defense in

897
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:55,760
Speaker 2: the first half of this game. The number of times

898
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 2: Travis Kelcey is in the conversation is the greatest tight

899
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:02,320
Speaker 2: end who's ever lived. He is all by himself, over

900
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 2: and over and over. And I understand Mahomes. Part of

901
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 2: his greatness is he can evade a pocket when he

902
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 2: gets muddy, and he makes late decisions, and he does

903
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 2: that move where he gets close to the line of

904
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:16,720
Speaker 2: scrimmage and just when you think he's scrambling, he throws

905
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 2: it not like a little checkdown but like a twenty

906
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 2: yard shotdown field that goes for a huge play because

907
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 2: the defense is broken down. He was doing that, but

908
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:27,839
Speaker 2: doing it over and over and over to the point

909
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:31,760
Speaker 2: where it's like, aren't you a defensive head coach, Brandon Staley?

910
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:33,919
Speaker 2: Where are the adjustments? And by the time they came,

911
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:34,919
Speaker 2: it was already too late.

912
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know.

913
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:40,400
Speaker 4: I've come to expect frustration from the Charge to this point.

914
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 4: But it is a division opponent. You should know Patrick

915
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:46,839
Speaker 4: Mahomes and Travis Kelcey and Andy Reid as well as

916
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:47,760
Speaker 4: anyone in the league.

917
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:51,720
Speaker 5: And you have justin Herbert that's the one thing.

918
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:53,880
Speaker 4: That you have where if the Chiefs keep scoring, they

919
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 4: keep producing. And I'm looking at what happens here in

920
00:40:57,120 --> 00:41:00,439
Speaker 4: the second half in a key divisional matchup, and it's

921
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:04,839
Speaker 4: red zone interception, three and out, three and out, three

922
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 4: and out, closed the game with another interception, and it's

923
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:09,880
Speaker 4: two games in a row where it's like and I

924
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 4: look at we all, justin Herbert, it's no questioning his talent,

925
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 4: but like, you're not getting the job done, and I

926
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:20,720
Speaker 4: think there's just something intrinsically and chemically wrong with the Chargers.

927
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 1: Well it's like I don't expect that. I mean they're

928
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 1: the Chargers.

929
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:25,399
Speaker 4: Yeah, But then even to the point where you went

930
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:26,880
Speaker 4: in thinking this would be a great game, I mean,

931
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 4: they'll take games down to the end.

932
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 5: But it's like, this is a team that is two

933
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:31,439
Speaker 5: and four.

934
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:32,840
Speaker 1: Is not the sum of.

935
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 4: Their parts for the second or third year in a

936
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 4: row under this coaching staff, and you can't make things

937
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 4: this easy for Patrick Mahomes.

938
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:44,320
Speaker 3: Well, they know what's at stake this season, Brandon Staley

939
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:46,240
Speaker 3: and the coaching stuff. They know they have to finish,

940
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:48,720
Speaker 3: I think with a winning record to keep their jobs.

941
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 3: But this actually was different because look, they every one

942
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:54,360
Speaker 3: of these games always comes down to the wire. This

943
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:56,320
Speaker 3: is actually the first two score win by the Chiefs

944
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 3: over the Chargers in four years, so that, yeah, that

945
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 3: goes back even to before when Staley was here. It's

946
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:06,959
Speaker 3: October twenty second, we're wrapping up Week seven. The division's over.

947
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 3: The AFC West has won. Unless you think the Raiders

948
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 3: are rallying here to go win this division, it's over.

949
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 1: Only a psychotic with the just say it it is over.

950
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 1: It's just kind of crazy.

951
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:23,439
Speaker 2: Barring a disaster around Patrick Mahomes or something like that.

952
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 3: Yes, same Buckler, whoever's backing him up could do it.

953
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:32,359
Speaker 2: And the yeah, I mean I understand creation mark because yeah,

954
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:34,800
Speaker 2: I'm sick of talking about the Chargers like this also,

955
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,440
Speaker 2: but it's like you watch a game like this and

956
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 2: there's such a mess in the first half defensively, and

957
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:42,359
Speaker 2: then the second half when they plug that hole, they're

958
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 2: total mess offensively, and it's like, guys.

959
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:46,879
Speaker 3: And they give up a big special teams play right

960
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 3: after Staley, who's been a little more cautious, decides to

961
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:52,759
Speaker 3: punt on fourth and five. The football gods punish him

962
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 3: by having the return go to almost exactly the line

963
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 3: of scrimmage where the punt was.

964
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 2: And the return was by Mikole Hardman, who also had

965
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:05,280
Speaker 2: a big third down conversion. Or the closing Travis Kelcey,

966
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:08,879
Speaker 2: uh before the closing Isaiah Pachenko touchdown the.

967
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 1: One the one thing.

968
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:11,720
Speaker 4: And I know people like there's half the people listeners

969
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 4: don't want to hear anything about like this individual. But

970
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:18,879
Speaker 4: like the splits, Travis Kelcey's like whether Taylor Swift oh

971
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 4: present or not?

972
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 5: Are insane? And you know what, I don't know. We're

973
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:22,880
Speaker 5: human beings.

974
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:24,799
Speaker 4: Like if you're if the woman that you love is

975
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 4: watching you something, don't you think that maybe it can

976
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:28,799
Speaker 4: change who you are?

977
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:29,800
Speaker 1: Is that crazy?

978
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 2: People are like, oh whatever, he might be in a

979
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 2: very happy headspace. I yeah, because Taylor is at the

980
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:37,479
Speaker 2: game again. I was actually thinking this is a little

981
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:40,279
Speaker 2: different quick tailor take, and everybody's like.

982
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 1: Oh no, they're talking about tills fast forward fifteen. It's

983
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:47,760
Speaker 1: it's it's a story, it's it's just a thing. Just relax.

984
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 2: We have we have to ruin everything now, right Like that,

985
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 2: That's what social media mostly does.

986
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 3: Like this, I haven't heard one, but always like that

987
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:00,839
Speaker 3: table the tailor swifts, like what is it one minute

988
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 3: a show?

989
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 1: Tops Ever, there was a.

990
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 2: Play where Mahomes made a great throw to to Kelsey

991
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 2: in the end zone. He was interfered with, almost came

992
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:12,799
Speaker 2: down with that interfered with. So they were set up

993
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 2: first and goal, and they showed Patrick Mahomes's wife is Brittany. Okay,

994
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:23,880
Speaker 2: Brittany Mahomes next to Taylor, and Brittany Mahomes is reacting

995
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 2: when she sees the flag go up.

996
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 1: She knows what it means.

997
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 2: Taylor is like, oh, because the ball wasn't caught. I'm curious.

998
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 2: Is Taylor is starting to learn some of the nuances

999
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 2: of the sport. I bet that she understand what the

1000
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 2: laundry came coming out meant. Are we still working toward that?

1001
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 2: Did she know football before? I don't want to make

1002
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 2: an assumption that she didn't know anything about football. In

1003
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 2: that moment, she seemed a little bit lost in space,

1004
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 2: whereas Mahomes's wife was totally plugged in.

1005
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 1: That was one take I had from a replay, and.

1006
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 3: That's the new question two weeks two weeks ago, we

1007
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 3: were I was talking about like, yeah, Kelsey's catching passes,

1008
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 3: but like, where are the explosive plays yards for play

1009
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 3: at the last two games twenty one for three oh

1010
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 3: three in two games.

1011
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:05,400
Speaker 1: Absurd, what is happening?

1012
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:08,400
Speaker 4: And also, by the way, this is a completely like

1013
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:10,719
Speaker 4: side note, but Greg and I noticed this before the game, like,

1014
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 4: why is Bernie Cozar hanging out?

1015
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:15,239
Speaker 2: I don't know, pregame with Taylor Swift. You answer that

1016
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 2: question you've been in contact with over the year.

1017
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 1: No, I will ask him. I'll ask him hashtag wellness.

1018
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 2: That was one of the strangest tweets I've ever seen

1019
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 2: in my life. Real quick, two more things. She Rushi,

1020
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:29,800
Speaker 2: Rice flashed a little bit in this game, has splashed

1021
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 2: a little bit the last couple of weeks like that.

1022
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 2: We've talked about we need the Chiefs need one more

1023
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:35,719
Speaker 2: guy to kind of become a guy.

1024
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 1: He's a guy? Could it be Rice?

1025
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 2: And if he is, lookout because this team with this

1026
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:44,840
Speaker 2: defense and my goodness. And finally, speaking of internet cynicism,

1027
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:49,360
Speaker 2: controversial Chargers fan lady, Remember we got all upset about

1028
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:52,279
Speaker 2: Mary and the woman Mary and Doe or do I

1029
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 2: don't know?

1030
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:54,240
Speaker 1: Really you have her name, that's good.

1031
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:57,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I don't know. She was wearing a Chargers jersey.

1032
00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:00,760
Speaker 2: They cut her at one point, so obviously a big event. Oh,

1033
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:04,799
Speaker 2: she was wearing a matching yellow hat of like a

1034
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:09,279
Speaker 2: startup chicken company, so she was helping out in front.

1035
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 1: No, it was Buffalo Wild Wings was the hat she

1036
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 1: was wearing.

1037
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 2: That's interesting, as I thought, I don't think that's gonna

1038
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:18,880
Speaker 2: held out your intent lingering around. Yeah in the situation, Yeah, Greg,

1039
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:23,240
Speaker 2: I'm happy she got paid. You know, let's go free chicken.

1040
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 1: You've done it again, all right. Case The offensive line

1041
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 1: was great too.

1042
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 2: They're very Hey, guess what, they're a good ass team

1043
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 2: and everyone's going to suffer another long season trying to

1044
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 2: beat them. Oh, speaking of suffering, I was on this

1045
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 2: Falcons Bucks beat.

1046
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. So it's a fifty one yard try

1047
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 1: never locking it away South team. Oh ever, piniont home snap?

1048
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:55,439
Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? They think you win the game

1049
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 1: for Atlanta.

1050
00:46:57,400 --> 00:47:02,479
Speaker 13: Spot kick from coup is aware and it is good.

1051
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 13: Fly home safely Atlanta. Sixteen thirteen is the final in

1052
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 13: Tampa Jung Way Coup the winner from fifty one yards.

1053
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 13: Atlanta goes to two and zero in the division.

1054
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:28,400
Speaker 1: Ow Megan Western with the call Falcons Radio.

1055
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 2: The Atlanta Falcons lead a division in the NFL I

1056
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:38,319
Speaker 2: demand to reco and a sloppy affair the that accelerated

1057
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:42,240
Speaker 2: the aging process of all those unfortunate enough to watch.

1058
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 1: In the spirit of transparency, I was paid to.

1059
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:48,879
Speaker 2: Do so, the Falcons rode a late thirty nine yard

1060
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 2: reception by Kyle Pitts at a Young Way coup fifty

1061
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:53,319
Speaker 2: one yard er that you heard his time expired to

1062
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:57,239
Speaker 2: edge the Bucks sixteen thirteen. Tampa Bay has now lost

1063
00:47:57,280 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 2: three or four, proving once again that September is a

1064
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:07,399
Speaker 2: big fat liar. They're not very good, very frustrating, watch

1065
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 2: very hard watch the Falcons. The reason I'm not even

1066
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 2: that you know upseaid about the lock is because the Falcon.

1067
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 2: The Falcons should have won this game four different ways,

1068
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:21,319
Speaker 2: and they couldn't because Desmond Rinner fumbled the ball three

1069
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 2: times and lost all three fumbles.

1070
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:24,440
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you about the fumbles.

1071
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 2: One was first and goal at the one a muff

1072
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 2: snap that he couldn't recover, and the second one was

1073
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 2: on a really nicely designed play call where he scrambled

1074
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 2: and was heading toward the pylon, maybe let up just

1075
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:44,759
Speaker 2: enough for a Tampa Bay defender to come in and

1076
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:45,319
Speaker 2: knock it out.

1077
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:46,279
Speaker 1: Of his hand at a.

1078
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:49,799
Speaker 3: Bound Antoine Winfield, who is having of a contract year

1079
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:50,719
Speaker 3: man is looking.

1080
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:52,879
Speaker 1: It was a beautiful play and a great hustle play.

1081
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:55,400
Speaker 2: I wouldn't quite call it don beebe leon Lett, but

1082
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:57,239
Speaker 2: it was that type of vibe where it looked like

1083
00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 2: it was definitely a touchdown and then all of a sudden,

1084
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:02,279
Speaker 2: it's going the other way. So the fact that you

1085
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 2: had two absolutely crushing turnovers by Atlanta on offense at

1086
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 2: the one yard line that never happens, but you still

1087
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 2: find a way. And part of the reason mark they

1088
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:14,360
Speaker 2: found the way is because the Bucks offense could not

1089
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 2: get things going. I owe the Falcons defense and apology.

1090
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 2: I kind of kind of said they weren't much on

1091
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:24,640
Speaker 2: the Thursday preview show. Statistically they've been pretty good this year,

1092
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 2: and in this game they continually kind of gave Baker

1093
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:30,719
Speaker 2: Mayfield fits. And the Bucks are zero for two in

1094
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:32,920
Speaker 2: the red zone, including late in the game where they

1095
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 2: had a chance to steal it themselves, but they never

1096
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 2: came close.

1097
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:37,799
Speaker 1: The Falcons find a way.

1098
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:40,920
Speaker 4: You don't see too many games like this where if

1099
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 4: you're Atlanta, you got inside the twelve yard line three

1100
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:47,879
Speaker 4: times and produced zero points on those instances. I wonder

1101
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:50,239
Speaker 4: if it'd be different because I know so Bjeon Robinson

1102
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 4: went out with an illness because he did play it

1103
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 4: for a spot of time at least, but then they

1104
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 4: lose him.

1105
00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 5: I don't know if that would played a big difference.

1106
00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 3: He played ten total snaps, he said out after the game.

1107
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 3: He woke up suffering from like headaches, a ton of headaches,

1108
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:09,040
Speaker 3: and they tried to go easy on him.

1109
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 1: Strange.

1110
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:14,319
Speaker 2: Everything was strange about it because he was not on

1111
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 2: the injury report obviously, so he's saying he woke up

1112
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:20,880
Speaker 2: with it. Okay, then he's on the sideline with his

1113
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:23,839
Speaker 2: helmet on and not getting on the field at all.

1114
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:27,879
Speaker 2: He actually does eventually get a touch, and his first

1115
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 2: touch comes with twenty eight seconds remaining in a thirteen

1116
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:32,279
Speaker 2: to thirteen game and the Falcon's driving for the game

1117
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:35,400
Speaker 2: winning field goal attempt. Like I've never seen any of

1118
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 2: this stuff happen before. It just this Artie Smith Falcons

1119
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:42,080
Speaker 2: team is bizarre. But to their credit, they found a

1120
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 2: way without their best player to get this done. So

1121
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:49,959
Speaker 2: it's not going to change anyone's feelings. I don't think

1122
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 2: about the Falcons' offense because they're still held back by

1123
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:59,440
Speaker 2: a turnover plagued quarterback. However, if you look at some

1124
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:02,319
Speaker 2: of the yard, yes they're moving the ball better, and

1125
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 2: unquestionably the team has a pulse in terms of moving

1126
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:06,440
Speaker 2: the football.

1127
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:11,160
Speaker 1: Kyle Pitts has been involved, Greggy, but you just wonder.

1128
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 2: How much longer they can sustain these back breaking turnovers

1129
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 2: if they play teams that are actually good, which the Bucks.

1130
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 1: Are not, which but they really don't.

1131
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 3: And so right, I think we should all just take

1132
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:25,960
Speaker 3: take a minute, take a step back, and just accept

1133
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 3: like this is the NFC South, right, we are going

1134
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 3: to experience this for ten more weeks.

1135
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:33,719
Speaker 1: Right there is what Colleen was talking about.

1136
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:35,719
Speaker 2: By the way, yes I see where she was on

1137
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 2: some level, and this sometimes happens with Connie doesn't understand

1138
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 2: a seg totally. She tried to the entire division and

1139
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:47,799
Speaker 2: great comedy ensues. But in the case of this, like

1140
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:52,239
Speaker 2: watch this game, and then Colleen's comment makes more sense

1141
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:55,360
Speaker 2: because we just do we need this, like society need it.

1142
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:57,840
Speaker 1: But they're also like the Bucks, Saints and Falcons.

1143
00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 3: They're all deeply flawed, deeply frustrating, dumb in different ways

1144
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:05,239
Speaker 3: that the Bucks are just kind of like mediocre. I

1145
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:06,920
Speaker 3: don't know if they quite fit with the Falcons in

1146
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 3: the Saintes and they're gonna have They're not the worst

1147
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:10,960
Speaker 3: five teams in the league.

1148
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:13,600
Speaker 1: They're certainly not anywhere near the best.

1149
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:16,280
Speaker 3: And there's just gonna be like a whole season worth

1150
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 3: of these types of games, and one of them will

1151
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 3: get to nine wins maybe who knows, maybe even ten

1152
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:24,680
Speaker 3: because the schedules are so soft.

1153
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:27,840
Speaker 1: Probably not, though I just don't see it. And you know, if.

1154
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:30,839
Speaker 3: We're lucky, it's not the Sunday night Week eighteen game

1155
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:33,120
Speaker 3: with only like the only playoff potential game.

1156
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:35,440
Speaker 1: Can't do that. It's too early to worry about that.

1157
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:37,880
Speaker 3: I don't mind like weird, ugly teams, but it's just like,

1158
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:38,680
Speaker 3: let's just accept that.

1159
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:39,799
Speaker 1: It's almost like they are.

1160
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 2: They're a quadrant of like relegated teams that are within

1161
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 2: the NFL, And it's like, as long as you understand that,

1162
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:48,279
Speaker 2: like they're not really like the real teams, but they

1163
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:50,360
Speaker 2: do their little thing. They play each other twice a

1164
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 2: year and occasionally they play the real teams.

1165
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:54,279
Speaker 1: It helps to process it.

1166
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 4: I mean, you you you know, went out of your

1167
00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:58,360
Speaker 4: way to lock one of these teams and pick this

1168
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:00,520
Speaker 4: game to witness, so I hope I think. I mean,

1169
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:03,879
Speaker 4: like the lesson learning on your end will probably never

1170
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:04,319
Speaker 4: lock a.

1171
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 2: Bad team, like and and that's I've made that mistake before.

1172
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 2: And I didn't think the Bucks were necessarily bad, but

1173
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 2: I kind of think they might be pretty bad after

1174
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:15,399
Speaker 2: watching this because Baker in the offense is really coming

1175
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 2: down to earth and.

1176
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:17,719
Speaker 1: Oh my god, can we get a running back in

1177
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:18,240
Speaker 1: that building?

1178
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 5: They seem allergic to that not run the ball.

1179
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 2: I would say, like, it's not gonna work without a

1180
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:26,280
Speaker 2: running game when you're Baker Mayfield your quarterback.

1181
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:29,120
Speaker 4: I know, although today he had like that thirty one

1182
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:32,160
Speaker 4: yard thirty something yard run on third and long, and like,

1183
00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:34,279
Speaker 4: I feel like this is just a small little part

1184
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 4: of his game. But every week there's been an element

1185
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:41,000
Speaker 4: of Baker like converting and moving the chains with his feet,

1186
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 4: and I mean that's a small, little, tiny thing.

1187
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:44,399
Speaker 3: So what I mean, there's just enough with this Bucks team.

1188
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:48,000
Speaker 3: Like Lavante David is playing outstanding. I mentioned Winfield. I

1189
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:51,399
Speaker 3: think he's been an all Pro type safety this year,

1190
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:54,440
Speaker 3: like and the Falcons have players too, like London and

1191
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 3: Pits are showing up week after week, making some impressive plays.

1192
00:53:57,520 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 1: That's why they'll get to eight wins and not four wins.

1193
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:01,880
Speaker 2: That was a good scrambled by Baker, but they scored

1194
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:02,880
Speaker 2: six points in lest.

1195
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:05,959
Speaker 5: No, I know they're an incomplete You gotta win.

1196
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:11,319
Speaker 2: All right, all right, Falcons fans are gonna be mad

1197
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 2: at me. But it's like you guys know, no, they're frustrated.

1198
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:18,080
Speaker 2: You guys know I'm not doing this like to antagonize

1199
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:20,640
Speaker 2: you what that you locked against them? No, like they

1200
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:23,880
Speaker 2: know when I'm What I'm saying here is not trying

1201
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 2: to get the mad like.

1202
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:28,719
Speaker 1: It's just they're They're very fortunate to have the number

1203
00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 1: of wins. I think they have the highest ceiling of

1204
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:31,760
Speaker 1: this division.

1205
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:34,279
Speaker 3: I don't know if that's gonna matter or mean anything, though,

1206
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:35,680
Speaker 3: I do think they have the highest ceiling.

1207
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:38,360
Speaker 1: All right, let us move on.

1208
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:43,759
Speaker 2: Then up next we head to the middle ends the

1209
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:45,600
Speaker 2: swamps of Jersey.

1210
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:50,200
Speaker 1: Another tough one. Who I can't they have the corn?

1211
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:53,880
Speaker 1: I showed one on one with Banks right out for

1212
00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:57,919
Speaker 1: the left. I'm sorry, took me. Banks's playing how back

1213
00:54:58,200 --> 00:54:59,440
Speaker 1: under pressure of points?

1214
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:03,000
Speaker 15: The sun spins away, Crows love on the passer complete

1215
00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:08,680
Speaker 15: attended Producson Isaiah Simmons got pressure on the quarterback, forcing

1216
00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:12,480
Speaker 15: a pack crow and the Giant stop Washington on fourth

1217
00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 15: and five with fifty.

1218
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:23,279
Speaker 1: Six seconds left. The call.

1219
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:29,120
Speaker 2: Is by the Great Bob Papa Giants Radio and boys.

1220
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:31,879
Speaker 2: I think there's one thing to take away from this game.

1221
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:37,239
Speaker 2: You never fork the New York Football Giants.

1222
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:41,080
Speaker 1: That's your takeaway. We can move on to the next game.

1223
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 2: Tyrod Taylor threw two second quarter touchdown passes and Dexter

1224
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:48,440
Speaker 2: Lawrence led a Big Blue defense that.

1225
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:49,360
Speaker 1: Had six sacks.

1226
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:52,880
Speaker 2: They had five all year entering this game, had six sacks,

1227
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:55,000
Speaker 2: including five in the first half, and they made that

1228
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:56,759
Speaker 2: last minute Stan you just heard.

1229
00:55:57,280 --> 00:55:59,560
Speaker 1: With a little help from John Dotson, squeeze a kid.

1230
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:03,440
Speaker 2: They snap a four game losing streak with a fourteen

1231
00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:09,040
Speaker 2: to seven win over the Commanders at MetLife Stadium. Yeah,

1232
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:12,440
Speaker 2: this game another one that they will not be sending

1233
00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:16,000
Speaker 2: to Canton. Giants looked really good in the first half

1234
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:20,560
Speaker 2: and the defense was humming. Like I said, five sacks

1235
00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:23,319
Speaker 2: in the first half, Taylor throwing it all over the

1236
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:26,040
Speaker 2: field with ease. Saquan looking good even though he suffered

1237
00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:27,680
Speaker 2: a little bit of an elbow injury in this game.

1238
00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:30,880
Speaker 2: Darren Waller again in the mix, clearly has better chemistry

1239
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:33,960
Speaker 2: with Taylor than he's had with Daniel Jones. That all

1240
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:36,440
Speaker 2: dried up in the second half, but the defense did

1241
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:40,240
Speaker 2: enough to get this win and keep their faint hopes alive.

1242
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:43,520
Speaker 4: I mean, Sam Howell came in having been sacked thirty

1243
00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:45,839
Speaker 4: four times. I think it was like thirteen of those

1244
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:49,440
Speaker 4: were on Sam Howell and the way that he plays, So,

1245
00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:52,640
Speaker 4: I mean it's one of those rare instances. I feel

1246
00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:55,480
Speaker 4: like we spend our preview show looking at what's happened

1247
00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:57,759
Speaker 4: and saying, this is probably something that could happen, and

1248
00:56:57,800 --> 00:57:00,560
Speaker 4: then when it actually does in today's NFL kind of like, wow,

1249
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:02,719
Speaker 4: it actually went as as you'd think.

1250
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 1: Sam halliw went and got sacked six times that I'd be.

1251
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:07,719
Speaker 3: Surprising when it's against the Giants who had you know,

1252
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:10,040
Speaker 3: as Dan mentioned, I've going into the year, but they didn't.

1253
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:12,440
Speaker 3: They didn't handle the butz and like, look, he's on

1254
00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:16,000
Speaker 3: pace for ninety seven Were these Were they the same

1255
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:17,560
Speaker 3: batter David Carr's record.

1256
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:20,280
Speaker 2: No, I wouldn't put this under what he's gotten in

1257
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:22,360
Speaker 2: trouble with a lot this season was holding the ball

1258
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:24,680
Speaker 2: too long. I think the offensive line had a lot

1259
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:28,000
Speaker 2: of breakdowns and the pressure was instant in many of

1260
00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:31,640
Speaker 2: the cases, which you know is surprising against the Giants

1261
00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:32,720
Speaker 2: have done almost nothing in.

1262
00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:33,919
Speaker 1: That realm until this game.

1263
00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:35,440
Speaker 2: But this is also a Commander's team, and I was

1264
00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:37,920
Speaker 2: getting tweets throughout the game from Commanders fans that are

1265
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:40,120
Speaker 2: just like they're they they're so sick of this team.

1266
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:43,600
Speaker 2: There's I think it's a Ron Rivera situation. They've now

1267
00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:47,439
Speaker 2: lost to the winless, previously winless Bears, They've now lost

1268
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:49,520
Speaker 2: to the one in five Giants, and this is just

1269
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:51,240
Speaker 2: in the last three weeks. And it makes sense when

1270
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:53,960
Speaker 2: you hear Jonathan Allen, one of the very talented players

1271
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:58,600
Speaker 2: on a very talented defensive line, speaking to reporters after

1272
00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:01,160
Speaker 2: the game. Here is what he said at courtesy of

1273
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:02,680
Speaker 2: NBC four Sports in DC.

1274
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:09,560
Speaker 1: Does he get frustrating when that tired? Seven years of

1275
00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:11,240
Speaker 1: the same tired?

1276
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:14,440
Speaker 18: What can you do now going forward to get it

1277
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:15,000
Speaker 18: turned around?

1278
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:17,520
Speaker 1: Get on man's right and get ready to play for Philadelphia?

1279
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:21,440
Speaker 3: WHOA yeah, Randy or Eric who was in charge of

1280
00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:22,280
Speaker 3: the beeps there?

1281
00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:24,560
Speaker 1: That was me? Yeah, you did a great Giant.

1282
00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:28,640
Speaker 3: I guess what he was saying, excellent beeps that was

1283
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:29,680
Speaker 3: the most him.

1284
00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:31,120
Speaker 1: Just enough so they know it's being said.

1285
00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:33,720
Speaker 2: And you know, that's a lot of frustration because I

1286
00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:36,800
Speaker 2: think they they know or think that they are a

1287
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:38,760
Speaker 2: better team than the Giants, so to be kind of

1288
00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:40,920
Speaker 2: punched in the mouth the way they were, and they

1289
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:43,880
Speaker 2: only get back in that game because Sterling Shepherd muffs

1290
00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:46,160
Speaker 2: the punt in the second half that leads to a

1291
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:48,520
Speaker 2: short field and the only Commander's touchdown.

1292
00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:50,800
Speaker 1: And then late in the game the Giants had it

1293
00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:51,320
Speaker 1: locked up.

1294
00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:54,160
Speaker 2: Saquan who's I think had his one fumble his entire

1295
00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:56,560
Speaker 2: career in the Pros, he coughs it up in the

1296
00:58:56,560 --> 00:58:59,840
Speaker 2: red zone. Uh setting up that last drive by Washing

1297
00:58:59,880 --> 00:59:02,160
Speaker 2: the falls short again on a dots and drop.

1298
00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:03,240
Speaker 1: It wasn't a perfect.

1299
00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:05,120
Speaker 2: Throw by Howl, but he did a great job getting

1300
00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:08,160
Speaker 2: away from pressure, puts it near enough to make the catch.

1301
00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:09,080
Speaker 1: The catch isn't made.

1302
00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:12,280
Speaker 2: It's just like it's an inconsistent team for a playing

1303
00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:14,280
Speaker 2: for a head coach who's maybe been around for too long,

1304
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:16,600
Speaker 2: and everyone just like there's a lot of excitement around

1305
00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:19,400
Speaker 2: the Commanders from a big picture perspective because Snyder's gone,

1306
00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:21,440
Speaker 2: but a lot of it is way too familiar for

1307
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:23,000
Speaker 2: fans that are sick. Ye, it doesn't fix it all

1308
00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:23,479
Speaker 2: in one week.

1309
00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:27,520
Speaker 3: You're not gonna like become a team that sneaks into

1310
00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:29,200
Speaker 3: the playoffs, which I think is the ceiling for this

1311
00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:31,720
Speaker 3: team unless you take advantage of those situations. On the

1312
00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:36,720
Speaker 3: third down play, Sam Howell has Terry McLaurin one on one.

1313
00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:40,760
Speaker 3: It's third and five from the seven. There's he like

1314
00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:43,160
Speaker 3: a Dori Jackson is out of this game. He's up

1315
00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:47,200
Speaker 3: against a rookie. In that scenario, Howell is facing no

1316
00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:51,760
Speaker 3: pressure whatsoever, and he doesn't put it anywhere near Terry McLaurin, who,

1317
00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:53,640
Speaker 3: by the way, like they didn't target for the first half,

1318
00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:55,280
Speaker 3: and then in the second half they target nine times

1319
00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:57,880
Speaker 3: and he gets nine yards because He'sterry freaking McLaurin. It's

1320
00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:00,680
Speaker 3: just been a bizarre thing. So Howell doesn't even put

1321
01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:04,560
Speaker 3: it anywhere near. Just a totally bad ball. And he's

1322
01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:06,840
Speaker 3: a very strange quarterback because he makes so many good

1323
01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:08,720
Speaker 3: plays and so many bad plays. And then the next

1324
01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:11,480
Speaker 3: play he scrambles after getting pressured, makes a nice throw

1325
01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:14,080
Speaker 3: to Dotson. It wouldn't have been the game tying touchdown

1326
01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:15,960
Speaker 3: because it probably would have been it probably would have

1327
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:17,160
Speaker 3: been a bad first down. It would have been a

1328
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:19,240
Speaker 3: first down down at the one or two with plenty

1329
01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:21,840
Speaker 3: of time left. And it's just this team is frustrating.

1330
01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:26,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Giants fans, like I said, I mentioned the

1331
01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:29,080
Speaker 2: Shepherd turnover, I mentioned the Barkley chip over. There was

1332
01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:32,360
Speaker 2: also an all time and I understand he's an edge rusher,

1333
01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:35,360
Speaker 2: so these guys, even though defensive backs can't catch. But

1334
01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:40,000
Speaker 2: Cavon Hall made a horrendous decision under pressure in his

1335
01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:43,680
Speaker 2: own end end zone and threw up a balloon right

1336
01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:47,600
Speaker 2: to Cavon like basically handed to him on a platter,

1337
01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:49,400
Speaker 2: and had a real chance at a pick six.

1338
01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:51,040
Speaker 1: He drops the football.

1339
01:00:51,160 --> 01:00:53,440
Speaker 2: And it was so bad that there was a tweet

1340
01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:55,480
Speaker 2: that I liked about this, and I took no joy

1341
01:00:55,480 --> 01:00:58,360
Speaker 2: in this. But this is just me reporting on the

1342
01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:04,920
Speaker 2: game boys. Here is a tweet from I wish I

1343
01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:06,720
Speaker 2: had who it was from, but here's what it. Here's

1344
01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:10,160
Speaker 2: what it said, Giants players lying all over the field

1345
01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:15,040
Speaker 2: in disbelief, Thibodeau distraught. It's like how they reported on

1346
01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:15,960
Speaker 2: the Titanic sinking.

1347
01:01:17,080 --> 01:01:18,960
Speaker 1: All right, So Felix.

1348
01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:21,080
Speaker 4: Seeing Jayal and Hyatt show up, I mean it seems

1349
01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:23,640
Speaker 4: like the guy almost functioned better without Daniel.

1350
01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:24,720
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you you.

1351
01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:27,400
Speaker 3: You tweeted it out that there's gonna be a weird

1352
01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:28,960
Speaker 3: conversation in New York this week.

1353
01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:31,360
Speaker 1: I think we're getting there.

1354
01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:33,920
Speaker 2: If things would have kept up for the last two quarters,

1355
01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:37,720
Speaker 2: there absolutely would have been a huge conversation. Now it's

1356
01:01:37,720 --> 01:01:40,440
Speaker 2: still kind of like more like some whispers. I think, well,

1357
01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:42,680
Speaker 2: I think gonna get louder. I thinks next week it

1358
01:01:42,680 --> 01:01:43,240
Speaker 2: gets louder.

1359
01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:46,680
Speaker 3: I think the whispers can be like, okay, like maybe

1360
01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:48,760
Speaker 3: let's not go crazy and say they're way better with

1361
01:01:48,840 --> 01:01:52,480
Speaker 3: Tyler Tyrod. But it's like there's certainly no major difference.

1362
01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:57,160
Speaker 2: They're very close to winning both these games. All right,

1363
01:01:57,240 --> 01:02:01,040
Speaker 2: let's move on. It's time now for the Sunday presented

1364
01:02:01,080 --> 01:02:04,120
Speaker 2: by the first ever Toyota Grand Highlander. Tough timing because

1365
01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:06,680
Speaker 2: you don't even have to drive to this particular game

1366
01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:07,360
Speaker 2: I'm about to talk about.

1367
01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:10,080
Speaker 1: It's right across the sidewalk. Well, we don't have to drive.

1368
01:02:10,080 --> 01:02:11,480
Speaker 1: Put we gotta drive to work. Someone else.

1369
01:02:11,560 --> 01:02:13,280
Speaker 5: You gotta drive you yet, I gotta get here walking

1370
01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:13,920
Speaker 5: home from here.

1371
01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:17,640
Speaker 4: Talking about us, we're here, we're here. Now, that's true.

1372
01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:19,440
Speaker 4: If you want us make it specifically about us.

1373
01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:22,240
Speaker 2: You're right, but if we weren't here now, we would

1374
01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:27,280
Speaker 2: be taking the Highlander. Everybody get in the Highlander. Okay,

1375
01:02:27,320 --> 01:02:28,840
Speaker 2: First and goal at the three.

1376
01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:32,640
Speaker 17: The Steelers in a tie game, climbing the Highlander with

1377
01:02:32,720 --> 01:02:36,040
Speaker 17: everything in tight picket, but head into Pittsburgh West.

1378
01:02:36,720 --> 01:02:38,760
Speaker 1: The loan setback is Naji Harris.

1379
01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:43,760
Speaker 17: Picket steps in, hands it off Nagy into the end zone.

1380
01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:48,400
Speaker 17: Pittsburgh Steelers go ahead, touchdown the iron Horse.

1381
01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:53,840
Speaker 19: Nagy goes into the end zone, angry man, running all day,

1382
01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:57,240
Speaker 19: showing that strength, that power, and when you had to

1383
01:02:57,360 --> 01:02:58,800
Speaker 19: do it, who do you give it to?

1384
01:02:58,880 --> 01:02:59,920
Speaker 1: You give it to Nagy.

1385
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:03,680
Speaker 19: Harrison christ job of plunging over the left side his

1386
01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:04,600
Speaker 19: first he.

1387
01:03:04,600 --> 01:03:06,280
Speaker 1: Was like he was Jim Brown or something.

1388
01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:10,560
Speaker 2: Bill hill Grove and Craig Willfie of the call wdv E.

1389
01:03:14,040 --> 01:03:16,800
Speaker 2: So if I stadium was lousy with Steelers fans, including

1390
01:03:16,840 --> 01:03:20,720
Speaker 2: shack Our Buddy Stills haven't played here a lot, and

1391
01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:23,760
Speaker 2: everybody had fun watching him take care of the Rams

1392
01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:28,800
Speaker 2: twenty four seventeen behind fourteen unanswered points in.

1393
01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:29,400
Speaker 1: The fourth quarter.

1394
01:03:30,600 --> 01:03:34,520
Speaker 2: The defense Greggie in this game really shut down Los

1395
01:03:34,560 --> 01:03:35,680
Speaker 2: Angeles down the stretch.

1396
01:03:36,240 --> 01:03:39,880
Speaker 3: I want to start giving some credit with for Pittsburgh

1397
01:03:39,880 --> 01:03:42,920
Speaker 3: before we get to the calls by the officials. Okay,

1398
01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:45,280
Speaker 3: even though the calls by the officials were the story,

1399
01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:48,800
Speaker 3: let's mention at least that the Steelers came into the

1400
01:03:48,800 --> 01:03:51,600
Speaker 3: fourth quarter doing absolutely nothing on offense, had barely over

1401
01:03:51,640 --> 01:03:53,760
Speaker 3: one hundred yards six first downs in the game. In

1402
01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:56,440
Speaker 3: the fourth quarter, they came alive for the first time

1403
01:03:56,480 --> 01:03:58,400
Speaker 3: all season. They held the ball for over eleven or

1404
01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:01,600
Speaker 3: twelve minutes, They had eleven first downs in the fourth quarter.

1405
01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:06,640
Speaker 3: They get a couple of touchdown drives going, extended drives

1406
01:04:06,680 --> 01:04:09,600
Speaker 3: going that kept the ball away from the Rams at

1407
01:04:09,640 --> 01:04:12,120
Speaker 3: the end of the game, and Kenny Pickett looked at

1408
01:04:12,200 --> 01:04:15,400
Speaker 3: least like rookie Kenny Pickett for the first time all season.

1409
01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:19,800
Speaker 3: Deontay Johnson absolutely changes this offense. To me, he's more

1410
01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:22,680
Speaker 3: valuable to them to Kenny Pickett, maybe even then George Pickens,

1411
01:04:22,720 --> 01:04:26,160
Speaker 3: because he's more reliable on a down to down basis. So, yes,

1412
01:04:26,240 --> 01:04:28,600
Speaker 3: they got a ton of breaks, and we'll get to that,

1413
01:04:29,960 --> 01:04:33,240
Speaker 3: but their offense did take over in the fourth quarter

1414
01:04:33,280 --> 01:04:35,840
Speaker 3: and also stop the Rams from moving the ball. So

1415
01:04:35,640 --> 01:04:38,480
Speaker 3: so some credit, Yeah, give it to the Steelers for

1416
01:04:38,520 --> 01:04:40,439
Speaker 3: playing their best when it mattered most in a game.

1417
01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:42,800
Speaker 1: They were basically dominated for three quarters. Hm.

1418
01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:47,800
Speaker 4: Yes, Mark, I want to believe in the Steelers tema,

1419
01:04:47,840 --> 01:04:50,440
Speaker 4: so they'd win twelve games, and like they finally you

1420
01:04:50,480 --> 01:04:51,480
Speaker 4: know what, they're on the base.

1421
01:04:51,560 --> 01:04:54,120
Speaker 1: They are on the base. Just the vout. I'll help

1422
01:04:54,160 --> 01:04:55,720
Speaker 1: you guys out. They're not gonna win twelve games.

1423
01:04:55,760 --> 01:04:58,560
Speaker 4: Well, what I was asking for though before starting to wonder,

1424
01:04:58,640 --> 01:05:00,240
Speaker 4: see what you're saying about Pickens. But I I was

1425
01:05:00,280 --> 01:05:03,000
Speaker 4: hoping that, like Jalen Warren and Pickens becomes sort of

1426
01:05:03,040 --> 01:05:04,960
Speaker 4: the centerpiece of this attack. And I saw they had

1427
01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:07,840
Speaker 4: like what ninety one yards in the first half is.

1428
01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:10,560
Speaker 1: Pickens ends up five for one oh seven?

1429
01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:12,480
Speaker 3: Make some big plays they had, They had some good

1430
01:05:12,480 --> 01:05:14,880
Speaker 3: connection on those three drives that I'm talking about. They

1431
01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:16,960
Speaker 3: went they had a touchdown drive on a shorter ar

1432
01:05:17,120 --> 01:05:19,240
Speaker 3: field and then a ninety yard touchdown drive and then

1433
01:05:19,240 --> 01:05:20,160
Speaker 3: they closed the game out.

1434
01:05:20,320 --> 01:05:20,960
Speaker 1: Pickens did it?

1435
01:05:21,040 --> 01:05:23,240
Speaker 4: Warren, I would like to see more of Jalen Warren. Yes,

1436
01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:25,360
Speaker 4: do you believe in Kenny Pickett at this point? Like,

1437
01:05:25,520 --> 01:05:26,640
Speaker 4: is no anything change?

1438
01:05:26,760 --> 01:05:26,920
Speaker 1: No?

1439
01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:30,760
Speaker 3: But this was in it. It wasn't a fiasco. So

1440
01:05:31,040 --> 01:05:33,800
Speaker 3: that's that's a start, like this was a solid game

1441
01:05:33,880 --> 01:05:34,320
Speaker 3: from him.

1442
01:05:34,720 --> 01:05:36,600
Speaker 2: What are you hear if that's where If that's the

1443
01:05:36,640 --> 01:05:39,160
Speaker 2: bar right now, we're gonna talk about the team winning twelve.

1444
01:05:39,240 --> 01:05:39,840
Speaker 1: I'm just saying.

1445
01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:44,040
Speaker 3: They say, are somehow four and two and I do.

1446
01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:47,880
Speaker 3: I just know teams change and and because they're the Steelers,

1447
01:05:47,920 --> 01:05:49,360
Speaker 3: I give them a chance to be a team that

1448
01:05:49,480 --> 01:05:51,680
Speaker 3: actually becomes good at some point. And oh, by the way,

1449
01:05:51,680 --> 01:05:53,520
Speaker 3: you got to four and two without being good. Now

1450
01:05:53,520 --> 01:05:55,800
Speaker 3: you did it with some luck because of the calls

1451
01:05:55,840 --> 01:05:59,479
Speaker 3: that I that I mentioned so horrible. First of all,

1452
01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:02,640
Speaker 3: they get a as interference on a killer weatherspoon the

1453
01:06:02,720 --> 01:06:05,400
Speaker 3: Rams cornerback on a third and eight in a spot

1454
01:06:05,440 --> 01:06:09,000
Speaker 3: in the field where the Steelers probably would have punted

1455
01:06:09,280 --> 01:06:11,520
Speaker 3: at that point and the Rams would have gotten the

1456
01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:13,480
Speaker 3: ball back with over two and a half minutes to

1457
01:06:13,520 --> 01:06:15,840
Speaker 3: go down seventh. Doesn't mean they're gonna win, you know,

1458
01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:18,000
Speaker 3: there are the Rams offense had shut themselves in the

1459
01:06:18,040 --> 01:06:20,200
Speaker 3: foot of the last few drives before that, and so

1460
01:06:20,280 --> 01:06:21,760
Speaker 3: who knows, but the Rams were going to get the

1461
01:06:21,760 --> 01:06:24,480
Speaker 3: ball back. It was a phantom call. There really wasn't contact.

1462
01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:27,400
Speaker 3: It was just awkward. The official was in a bad spot.

1463
01:06:27,800 --> 01:06:30,320
Speaker 3: It ended up being like a no no blood play

1464
01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:33,400
Speaker 3: because they called the taunting. But the Steelers got another

1465
01:06:33,480 --> 01:06:35,320
Speaker 3: chance at it and they picked up the first.

1466
01:06:35,040 --> 01:06:36,400
Speaker 1: Down, which was also a bad call.

1467
01:06:36,440 --> 01:06:38,640
Speaker 3: By the way, the top was the taunting was a

1468
01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:40,320
Speaker 3: bad call too, but it felt like a ball.

1469
01:06:40,200 --> 01:06:43,840
Speaker 1: Dopeb was chirping and then he helped, well.

1470
01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:46,280
Speaker 3: He went he like turned the guy or he like

1471
01:06:46,680 --> 01:06:48,920
Speaker 3: ran around him, so he was in his face and

1472
01:06:48,960 --> 01:06:51,600
Speaker 3: then you know, whispered and you know, I don't like

1473
01:06:51,600 --> 01:06:54,080
Speaker 3: the taunting called spur they're gonna call. I'm saying they

1474
01:06:54,080 --> 01:06:56,360
Speaker 3: did the like shut in his face, like for a

1475
01:06:56,360 --> 01:06:56,840
Speaker 3: few seconds.

1476
01:06:56,920 --> 01:06:58,480
Speaker 1: I was happy with the resulting, not the process.

1477
01:06:58,560 --> 01:07:00,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with you. I do love the Auntie Johnson.

1478
01:07:00,720 --> 01:07:02,240
Speaker 3: I think I think he changes it and that was

1479
01:07:02,240 --> 01:07:05,400
Speaker 3: a big time moment in the game. But then then

1480
01:07:05,480 --> 01:07:07,360
Speaker 3: the spot and I'm sure if you watch you know,

1481
01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:10,280
Speaker 3: red Zone today, you saw it like they go for

1482
01:07:10,360 --> 01:07:13,760
Speaker 3: it on a fourth down play for Kenny Pickett. Basically,

1483
01:07:13,800 --> 01:07:15,200
Speaker 3: the games on the line. If you pick it up,

1484
01:07:15,240 --> 01:07:17,080
Speaker 3: the Steelers win the game. If not, the Rams have

1485
01:07:17,120 --> 01:07:19,760
Speaker 3: great field positions to go down the field, and Katy

1486
01:07:19,800 --> 01:07:23,880
Speaker 3: Pickett clearly was short replays clearly showed it was short,

1487
01:07:24,200 --> 01:07:27,680
Speaker 3: and Sean McVay couldn't challenge it because he was out

1488
01:07:27,680 --> 01:07:30,600
Speaker 3: of timeouts. And the play actually went into the two

1489
01:07:30,640 --> 01:07:33,760
Speaker 3: minute warning, but it started before the two minute warning,

1490
01:07:33,840 --> 01:07:36,840
Speaker 3: so it's not an automatic review game over What are

1491
01:07:36,840 --> 01:07:37,440
Speaker 3: we doing here?

1492
01:07:37,480 --> 01:07:39,480
Speaker 2: I gotta I got this is gonna be a little controversial,

1493
01:07:39,520 --> 01:07:43,560
Speaker 2: but we know there's a little bit of a cannery

1494
01:07:43,560 --> 01:07:45,840
Speaker 2: that goes on about sometimes all of a sudden a

1495
01:07:45,960 --> 01:07:48,640
Speaker 2: play is ruled a catch and there's like actually upon

1496
01:07:48,680 --> 01:07:51,320
Speaker 2: further review, yes, like there is some help going on

1497
01:07:51,360 --> 01:07:54,040
Speaker 2: in there. Yes, yeah, yeah, Like just get in the

1498
01:07:54,040 --> 01:07:55,560
Speaker 2: air and say we can't end the game that way.

1499
01:07:55,960 --> 01:07:58,960
Speaker 2: It's pretty clear that this is at best close but

1500
01:07:59,040 --> 01:08:01,640
Speaker 2: not there to let the game end that way. And

1501
01:08:01,680 --> 01:08:04,160
Speaker 2: I know you had fifty thousand Steelers fans that were

1502
01:08:04,200 --> 01:08:06,200
Speaker 2: thrilled with the ending of that game, but the Rams

1503
01:08:06,240 --> 01:08:08,320
Speaker 2: fans that were hoping for one more chance, like that

1504
01:08:08,400 --> 01:08:10,160
Speaker 2: is such a gut wrenching way for the game to

1505
01:08:10,240 --> 01:08:12,120
Speaker 2: end and kind of in a lot of ways, kind

1506
01:08:12,120 --> 01:08:14,480
Speaker 2: of ruin that game because you took it, took away

1507
01:08:14,480 --> 01:08:16,080
Speaker 2: what should have been the climax, and ye have that.

1508
01:08:16,200 --> 01:08:17,320
Speaker 1: Okay, we're moving on.

1509
01:08:17,560 --> 01:08:20,000
Speaker 3: I it was a mistake, and I think it was

1510
01:08:20,360 --> 01:08:24,439
Speaker 3: either Patrick Claybon or someone else like quote tweeting him

1511
01:08:24,479 --> 01:08:26,040
Speaker 3: that was like, what we have to look at, what

1512
01:08:26,120 --> 01:08:29,960
Speaker 3: is the purpose of these replay things, because yes, like

1513
01:08:30,000 --> 01:08:31,960
Speaker 3: Sean McVay didn't have a time out left, but the

1514
01:08:31,960 --> 01:08:34,200
Speaker 3: point is to get the call right, and I feel

1515
01:08:34,240 --> 01:08:36,599
Speaker 3: like there has to be a mechanism to get the

1516
01:08:36,600 --> 01:08:39,520
Speaker 3: call right on a call like that. The pass interference,

1517
01:08:40,040 --> 01:08:44,519
Speaker 3: I get it. That happens probably once a week where

1518
01:08:44,560 --> 01:08:47,120
Speaker 3: there's a big pass interference call that you could argue

1519
01:08:47,120 --> 01:08:48,160
Speaker 3: with in a big spot.

1520
01:08:48,240 --> 01:08:49,479
Speaker 1: It happens. It sucks.

1521
01:08:49,880 --> 01:08:52,679
Speaker 3: But a play like that, which is like the down,

1522
01:08:53,040 --> 01:08:55,519
Speaker 3: where you can tell that he's down and something's clearly like,

1523
01:08:55,560 --> 01:08:57,320
Speaker 3: there needs to be a mechanism to get rid of it.

1524
01:08:57,920 --> 01:08:59,720
Speaker 3: Now that said, I do want to point out Sean

1525
01:08:59,840 --> 01:09:04,240
Speaker 3: mc they didn't have those three timeouts in part because

1526
01:09:04,240 --> 01:09:06,439
Speaker 3: they blew a timeout because they ran out of time

1527
01:09:07,040 --> 01:09:09,200
Speaker 3: early in the third quarter. And that is a Sean

1528
01:09:09,320 --> 01:09:13,920
Speaker 3: McVay specialty that absolutely drives me crazy, and it comes

1529
01:09:13,960 --> 01:09:14,639
Speaker 3: back to haunt.

1530
01:09:14,520 --> 01:09:17,120
Speaker 1: Him pretty often and he still does it. It drives

1531
01:09:17,120 --> 01:09:19,000
Speaker 1: me crazy. Two quick points.

1532
01:09:19,120 --> 01:09:22,320
Speaker 2: Phukanakua made another big day eight for one fifty four.

1533
01:09:22,320 --> 01:09:25,360
Speaker 2: He had one catching near the sideline that like, actually

1534
01:09:27,240 --> 01:09:30,040
Speaker 2: it was challenged by Mike Tomlin just because he didn't

1535
01:09:30,040 --> 01:09:31,559
Speaker 2: want to believe that it was possible that he could

1536
01:09:31,560 --> 01:09:33,599
Speaker 2: get two feet down on the play, and he did.

1537
01:09:34,000 --> 01:09:36,559
Speaker 2: And it's like he's almost demanding to be in the

1538
01:09:36,560 --> 01:09:38,880
Speaker 2: conversation for the Superstar Club, which is one of the

1539
01:09:38,920 --> 01:09:42,080
Speaker 2: biggest surprises of this season. He is the second player

1540
01:09:42,080 --> 01:09:44,600
Speaker 2: of via ESPN and NFL history with seven hundred or

1541
01:09:44,600 --> 01:09:47,040
Speaker 2: more receiving yards in his first seven career games, and

1542
01:09:47,040 --> 01:09:48,920
Speaker 2: the fact that he's still doing it with Cooper Cup

1543
01:09:48,920 --> 01:09:51,760
Speaker 2: there tells you a lot. The other thing is, and

1544
01:09:51,840 --> 01:09:54,040
Speaker 2: I don't I don't say this in a way to

1545
01:09:54,120 --> 01:09:57,960
Speaker 2: be like mean, but if you signed Brett Mahert to

1546
01:09:58,000 --> 01:10:03,000
Speaker 2: be your kicker, it And they lost a game today

1547
01:10:03,040 --> 01:10:06,000
Speaker 2: that was a close game, and he missed two field goals.

1548
01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:06,920
Speaker 1: They were both long kicks.

1549
01:10:06,920 --> 01:10:09,080
Speaker 2: But people are drilling fifty yarders on the rag now

1550
01:10:09,600 --> 01:10:13,400
Speaker 2: and most crucially an extra point, which led to him

1551
01:10:13,439 --> 01:10:15,160
Speaker 2: having the yips at the end of last season. And

1552
01:10:15,640 --> 01:10:17,519
Speaker 2: I remember thinking when they broke camp with him, like,

1553
01:10:18,280 --> 01:10:20,080
Speaker 2: is he They're going to get through eighteen weeks without

1554
01:10:20,120 --> 01:10:22,519
Speaker 2: this guy melting down and costing you a game or

1555
01:10:22,560 --> 01:10:24,160
Speaker 2: games before you have to pivot in the middle of

1556
01:10:24,200 --> 01:10:25,640
Speaker 2: a season, which no team likes to do.

1557
01:10:26,080 --> 01:10:27,840
Speaker 1: It was it was a kind of needless risk.

1558
01:10:27,920 --> 01:10:31,360
Speaker 2: I hope Mahart it has a long and successful career,

1559
01:10:31,720 --> 01:10:33,439
Speaker 2: but you don't see things like you saw at the

1560
01:10:33,520 --> 01:10:34,799
Speaker 2: end of last season very.

1561
01:10:34,600 --> 01:10:36,000
Speaker 1: Often in our league.

1562
01:10:36,160 --> 01:10:39,000
Speaker 2: Come back from that and to see this happen again,

1563
01:10:39,360 --> 01:10:41,040
Speaker 2: I wonder how how long he is.

1564
01:10:40,960 --> 01:10:41,320
Speaker 1: For the run.

1565
01:10:41,320 --> 01:10:44,200
Speaker 4: I feel like there's we used to have this with quarterbacks,

1566
01:10:44,200 --> 01:10:45,960
Speaker 4: and I mean we still do disagree, but there's like

1567
01:10:46,160 --> 01:10:50,680
Speaker 4: twenty five functional kickers that don't leave you completely suspect

1568
01:10:50,680 --> 01:10:52,400
Speaker 4: and wondering what is going to happen to your team

1569
01:10:52,439 --> 01:10:56,080
Speaker 4: on any given Sunday. And Maher's in that subdivision of like, no,

1570
01:10:56,160 --> 01:10:57,680
Speaker 4: I don't trust you, and you're going to prove to

1571
01:10:57,720 --> 01:10:58,879
Speaker 4: me why I don't trust.

1572
01:10:58,760 --> 01:11:01,040
Speaker 3: Right, he missed that extra point, actually got the point

1573
01:11:01,080 --> 01:11:04,280
Speaker 3: back with a two later, But the two kicks he

1574
01:11:04,320 --> 01:11:07,280
Speaker 3: made after that. What is it that Jay Pheely says

1575
01:11:07,320 --> 01:11:11,000
Speaker 3: that he piped it. It was the opposite of piping.

1576
01:11:11,600 --> 01:11:15,559
Speaker 3: It was a reverse pipe hook. It was like the

1577
01:11:15,600 --> 01:11:17,559
Speaker 3: first you're on the first t and the water is

1578
01:11:17,560 --> 01:11:19,120
Speaker 3: on the left, and you're like, just don't hit in

1579
01:11:19,160 --> 01:11:20,760
Speaker 3: the water, just don't end in the water. And both

1580
01:11:20,800 --> 01:11:22,800
Speaker 3: of them are just these hooks where you're just like,

1581
01:11:23,720 --> 01:11:25,479
Speaker 3: I don't need to be a kicking expert to know

1582
01:11:25,520 --> 01:11:28,760
Speaker 3: he kicked those with no confidence whatsoever. And so that

1583
01:11:28,880 --> 01:11:30,599
Speaker 3: is a big time concerned because going into the fourth

1584
01:11:30,680 --> 01:11:34,200
Speaker 3: quarter they had three hundred plus yards and the Steelers

1585
01:11:34,200 --> 01:11:36,640
Speaker 3: had one hundred and they should have been winning this

1586
01:11:36,720 --> 01:11:40,360
Speaker 3: game by two and a half touchdowns. But the play

1587
01:11:40,360 --> 01:11:42,639
Speaker 3: of the game, and I know we've talked about this game,

1588
01:11:42,680 --> 01:11:44,559
Speaker 3: but it was one of the plays of the season

1589
01:11:44,720 --> 01:11:46,320
Speaker 3: to me, TJ.

1590
01:11:46,439 --> 01:11:47,720
Speaker 1: Watt's interception.

1591
01:11:48,320 --> 01:11:50,519
Speaker 3: So many things happened after it that you could say

1592
01:11:50,520 --> 01:11:52,280
Speaker 3: won in the game, but they were losing that game

1593
01:11:52,360 --> 01:11:57,400
Speaker 3: unless TJ. Watt in zone coverage somehow reads the route combination.

1594
01:11:57,560 --> 01:11:57,840
Speaker 1: TJ.

1595
01:11:57,920 --> 01:12:00,920
Speaker 3: Watt like he's dropping back and he's supposed to be

1596
01:12:00,920 --> 01:12:02,040
Speaker 3: covering the outside receiver.

1597
01:12:02,160 --> 01:12:03,719
Speaker 1: He reads exactly what's gonna happen.

1598
01:12:03,760 --> 01:12:06,960
Speaker 3: He breaks on the ball like he's prime Patrick Peterson,

1599
01:12:07,000 --> 01:12:09,320
Speaker 3: not the Peterson they got now, and he gets an

1600
01:12:09,360 --> 01:12:11,439
Speaker 3: interception and brings it back to the ten year old

1601
01:12:11,520 --> 01:12:13,760
Speaker 3: and is one of the most astounding plays I've ever

1602
01:12:13,800 --> 01:12:15,360
Speaker 3: seen a defensive lineman make.

1603
01:12:15,720 --> 01:12:17,559
Speaker 1: And that's the only reason they were even in this

1604
01:12:17,680 --> 01:12:18,920
Speaker 1: game is setting up that chart.

1605
01:12:19,240 --> 01:12:21,479
Speaker 4: How many it's not that they've made this exactly play

1606
01:12:21,479 --> 01:12:21,920
Speaker 4: in the past.

1607
01:12:22,240 --> 01:12:24,040
Speaker 1: How many times? This is what I mean? But but

1608
01:12:24,080 --> 01:12:26,040
Speaker 1: the miles I get it. But that's what TJ.

1609
01:12:26,800 --> 01:12:29,439
Speaker 4: TJ Wats credits like. There have been like ten or

1610
01:12:29,479 --> 01:12:33,639
Speaker 4: eleven instances of TJ. Watt completely ceiling changing the changing

1611
01:12:33,720 --> 01:12:35,960
Speaker 4: games like this with things that other people in his

1612
01:12:36,000 --> 01:12:36,720
Speaker 4: position don't do.

1613
01:12:36,880 --> 01:12:39,559
Speaker 2: I'm watching the MLB playoffs and Bryce Harper of the

1614
01:12:39,560 --> 01:12:41,800
Speaker 2: Phillies has this knack for the big moment, and I

1615
01:12:41,840 --> 01:12:44,040
Speaker 2: noticed he's wearing a headband that says the Showman on it. Yeah,

1616
01:12:44,080 --> 01:12:46,639
Speaker 2: it's like, that's a perfect nickname for that guy. Wat's

1617
01:12:46,680 --> 01:12:49,439
Speaker 2: like a showman. And also you are you are you

1618
01:12:49,640 --> 01:12:53,600
Speaker 2: arguing Greg? Perhaps uh not on purpose that that was

1619
01:12:53,600 --> 01:12:56,120
Speaker 2: a bit of a big momentum swing for the Steelers

1620
01:12:56,160 --> 01:12:56,880
Speaker 2: that interception.

1621
01:12:57,200 --> 01:12:59,960
Speaker 1: No, don't robot it. What do you mean? Who met

1622
01:13:00,120 --> 01:13:00,639
Speaker 1: some swing?

1623
01:13:02,560 --> 01:13:05,400
Speaker 3: They were just they were just like losing the game,

1624
01:13:05,680 --> 01:13:08,040
Speaker 3: and hen what happened He made it so that they

1625
01:13:08,439 --> 01:13:10,840
Speaker 3: won that path to winning the game.

1626
01:13:11,520 --> 01:13:13,840
Speaker 1: You describe Okay, else, could you describe what happened?

1627
01:13:13,920 --> 01:13:14,040
Speaker 13: Right?

1628
01:13:14,080 --> 01:13:17,840
Speaker 3: Speaking of showman, Uh, sometimes this guy Nick Westley tries

1629
01:13:17,880 --> 01:13:19,800
Speaker 3: to get on me for not being a showman, even

1630
01:13:19,800 --> 01:13:21,800
Speaker 3: though you know I took the Eagles this week. He

1631
01:13:21,880 --> 01:13:24,280
Speaker 3: tried to be cool and take the Rams. How'd that

1632
01:13:24,320 --> 01:13:25,040
Speaker 3: work out for you?

1633
01:13:25,520 --> 01:13:27,000
Speaker 1: There? You go unfair?

1634
01:13:27,120 --> 01:13:29,760
Speaker 3: And I already see while we're taping, and I'm trying

1635
01:13:29,760 --> 01:13:31,840
Speaker 3: not to focus on it, but there's there's been like

1636
01:13:31,920 --> 01:13:34,000
Speaker 3: seven texts between the Cincinnati Zoo.

1637
01:13:34,880 --> 01:13:39,320
Speaker 1: Phil is getting after Nick. It's just who knows not again?

1638
01:13:40,240 --> 01:13:43,520
Speaker 1: All right, let's take a break up and a shout.

1639
01:13:43,840 --> 01:13:46,920
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1640
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1642
01:13:57,520 --> 01:14:00,920
Speaker 2: uh light slate this week with six teams, so we

1643
01:14:01,080 --> 01:14:05,080
Speaker 2: just need a pinch hit appearance from Shook to handle

1644
01:14:05,120 --> 01:14:06,040
Speaker 2: a game from mile high.

1645
01:14:06,080 --> 01:14:08,360
Speaker 1: So let's talk a little Packers Broncos and then welcome

1646
01:14:08,400 --> 01:14:09,680
Speaker 1: in the pipe.

1647
01:14:09,840 --> 01:14:12,880
Speaker 2: Obviously two down territory even from the Packers forty six,

1648
01:14:13,080 --> 01:14:14,000
Speaker 2: A crowd on.

1649
01:14:14,040 --> 01:14:15,000
Speaker 1: Their feet making noise.

1650
01:14:15,040 --> 01:14:18,280
Speaker 17: Four man rushed Love in the pocket bounces around throws

1651
01:14:18,280 --> 01:14:19,920
Speaker 17: a ball deep down the field.

1652
01:14:19,960 --> 01:14:29,479
Speaker 14: That ball is in accepting e in accepting bite, and

1653
01:14:29,720 --> 01:14:34,920
Speaker 14: this one is going to end with the Broncos winning.

1654
01:14:34,600 --> 01:14:35,240
Speaker 1: A whole game.

1655
01:14:36,800 --> 01:14:40,040
Speaker 2: Jordan Love, down two points, had a chance to be

1656
01:14:40,080 --> 01:14:42,920
Speaker 2: the hero, but then stead he threw a balloon ball

1657
01:14:43,040 --> 01:14:46,400
Speaker 2: down the right sideline that was easily intercepted, the death

1658
01:14:46,439 --> 01:14:51,240
Speaker 2: low for the Packers in a Broncos nineteen seventeen win.

1659
01:14:51,280 --> 01:14:54,080
Speaker 2: The Broncos are now two and five, so they've kind

1660
01:14:54,080 --> 01:14:56,719
Speaker 2: of woken up a little bit the last few weeks,

1661
01:14:56,800 --> 01:14:59,639
Speaker 2: and the Packers now two and four and not looking

1662
01:14:59,800 --> 01:15:02,280
Speaker 2: very good. Yes, as I said, we now welcome in

1663
01:15:02,280 --> 01:15:04,960
Speaker 2: the pipe, Nick Shook. And by the way, I just

1664
01:15:05,000 --> 01:15:08,320
Speaker 2: realized Jay Feely is saying you piped it, which means

1665
01:15:08,400 --> 01:15:11,160
Speaker 2: like a perfect type of thing right in that case

1666
01:15:11,200 --> 01:15:13,960
Speaker 2: of kick, And now we have a perfect type of thing.

1667
01:15:14,160 --> 01:15:18,639
Speaker 2: A guess that handles game coverage, Nick Chook. Jordan Love

1668
01:15:18,720 --> 01:15:20,200
Speaker 2: is tough to watch, Bud right now?

1669
01:15:20,200 --> 01:15:21,000
Speaker 1: What is up with that?

1670
01:15:22,479 --> 01:15:24,560
Speaker 16: I'm also wondering what reverse pipe would mean in that

1671
01:15:25,080 --> 01:15:26,080
Speaker 16: with all that connotation.

1672
01:15:26,120 --> 01:15:27,280
Speaker 1: I don't know, but we won't go there.

1673
01:15:27,760 --> 01:15:30,080
Speaker 16: You know, they say the call, it's it's obviously two down,

1674
01:15:30,160 --> 01:15:32,880
Speaker 16: territory right, Not in Jordan Love's world, not where he

1675
01:15:32,920 --> 01:15:35,200
Speaker 16: wants to go be the hero and chuck one deep

1676
01:15:35,520 --> 01:15:39,320
Speaker 16: into what's essentially ends up being double coverage. I'm I

1677
01:15:39,320 --> 01:15:41,720
Speaker 16: am so frustrated watching him play because I've seen the

1678
01:15:41,720 --> 01:15:44,120
Speaker 16: potential and you saw it in this game too. He

1679
01:15:44,280 --> 01:15:46,160
Speaker 16: was bad Jordan Love for the first two and a

1680
01:15:46,200 --> 01:15:48,080
Speaker 16: half three quarters, and then all of a sudden they

1681
01:15:48,160 --> 01:15:48,519
Speaker 16: wake up.

1682
01:15:48,560 --> 01:15:50,559
Speaker 1: They string together a couple of touchdown drives.

1683
01:15:50,320 --> 01:15:52,120
Speaker 16: And you're like, well, you're figuring it out again, and

1684
01:15:52,160 --> 01:15:54,559
Speaker 16: then and then it ends in the same way like

1685
01:15:54,960 --> 01:15:57,639
Speaker 16: it's these Packers fans have to be just so frustrated.

1686
01:15:57,680 --> 01:15:58,599
Speaker 1: Now, great, they're spoiled.

1687
01:15:58,760 --> 01:16:00,879
Speaker 16: Packers fans have been spoiled for the last two decades

1688
01:16:00,920 --> 01:16:05,040
Speaker 16: by elite quarterback play. Welcome to gen pop, folks. This

1689
01:16:05,200 --> 01:16:07,320
Speaker 16: is what being an NFL fan and not being a

1690
01:16:07,360 --> 01:16:10,639
Speaker 16: fan of the Packers is. Unfortunately for them, another loss,

1691
01:16:10,680 --> 01:16:11,760
Speaker 16: another frustrating one.

1692
01:16:11,800 --> 01:16:13,240
Speaker 1: But hey, good on the broncos Man.

1693
01:16:13,240 --> 01:16:15,639
Speaker 3: They got another w It's funny that shook as much

1694
01:16:15,720 --> 01:16:18,879
Speaker 3: like Mark, a Browns fan who hated that the Packers

1695
01:16:18,880 --> 01:16:20,439
Speaker 3: had three decades of great I.

1696
01:16:20,360 --> 01:16:22,520
Speaker 4: Think I shook and I have dealt with some similarity.

1697
01:16:22,720 --> 01:16:24,760
Speaker 4: Don sas have, you know, the Jets fans and all

1698
01:16:24,800 --> 01:16:25,320
Speaker 4: the rest.

1699
01:16:25,160 --> 01:16:28,280
Speaker 3: Because I just I think with love he's got some

1700
01:16:28,320 --> 01:16:31,519
Speaker 3: good things. But at least the way he sees the game,

1701
01:16:31,960 --> 01:16:34,880
Speaker 3: like the way he sees defenses when like he's not

1702
01:16:34,960 --> 01:16:35,879
Speaker 3: seeing it yet.

1703
01:16:36,240 --> 01:16:38,160
Speaker 1: Maybe he will, but he's not seeing it.

1704
01:16:38,240 --> 01:16:41,760
Speaker 3: He is very often seems to be confused by what

1705
01:16:41,800 --> 01:16:44,479
Speaker 3: the defenses are showing him, even when it's the Broncos defense.

1706
01:16:44,479 --> 01:16:44,719
Speaker 1: Shook.

1707
01:16:46,280 --> 01:16:48,920
Speaker 16: Yeah, the Broncos defense that was ranking your dead last

1708
01:16:49,280 --> 01:16:51,280
Speaker 16: during the last two weeks, and suddenly maybe they're not

1709
01:16:51,320 --> 01:16:51,679
Speaker 16: that bad.

1710
01:16:51,680 --> 01:16:51,960
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1711
01:16:52,000 --> 01:16:53,600
Speaker 16: I was watching this game, and I actually had a

1712
01:16:53,640 --> 01:16:55,719
Speaker 16: couple of games on my slate today that we're pretty

1713
01:16:55,720 --> 01:16:57,200
Speaker 16: similar in that it was just two teams that you

1714
01:16:57,240 --> 01:16:59,360
Speaker 16: really don't know if they're any good, the other one

1715
01:16:59,400 --> 01:17:01,880
Speaker 16: being Accaneers Falcons, where I'm just like, yeah, these teams

1716
01:17:01,920 --> 01:17:03,760
Speaker 16: are basically the same, and either of them are going

1717
01:17:03,840 --> 01:17:05,680
Speaker 16: to separate themselves from the rest of the packers. That

1718
01:17:05,760 --> 01:17:08,360
Speaker 16: these two teams in Denver were worse than those two teams.

1719
01:17:08,400 --> 01:17:11,080
Speaker 16: It was just like the stats are very similar. They

1720
01:17:11,160 --> 01:17:13,120
Speaker 16: both ended up with one hundred and ninety four net

1721
01:17:13,160 --> 01:17:13,880
Speaker 16: passing yards.

1722
01:17:13,880 --> 01:17:15,960
Speaker 1: The door Man's Falcons Bucks game for the week.

1723
01:17:16,200 --> 01:17:19,240
Speaker 16: Yeah. Yeah, it's just it's rough to watch them right now.

1724
01:17:19,280 --> 01:17:23,479
Speaker 16: And when it's just tough, you know, on the Denver side,

1725
01:17:23,720 --> 01:17:25,960
Speaker 16: you gotta feel a little bit better about some of

1726
01:17:26,000 --> 01:17:28,759
Speaker 16: the stuff they did. You know, Russell Wilson not great,

1727
01:17:28,840 --> 01:17:30,760
Speaker 16: but he's still kind of making plays.

1728
01:17:30,760 --> 01:17:32,040
Speaker 1: He hangs out of the football too long.

1729
01:17:32,040 --> 01:17:34,040
Speaker 16: They did get a good contribution from the rushing attack,

1730
01:17:34,080 --> 01:17:35,880
Speaker 16: and their defense played better. But was it really like

1731
01:17:35,920 --> 01:17:37,680
Speaker 16: a litmus test of this defense is starting to come

1732
01:17:37,680 --> 01:17:40,000
Speaker 16: around or were they just playing the Packers who slept

1733
01:17:40,040 --> 01:17:41,599
Speaker 16: walk through three quarters of this game.

1734
01:17:41,640 --> 01:17:43,599
Speaker 5: I don't know. I think it was an important game.

1735
01:17:44,400 --> 01:17:46,960
Speaker 2: Shook And tell me if you agree for Russell Wilson

1736
01:17:47,080 --> 01:17:50,559
Speaker 2: coming off two really poor games. If he had another

1737
01:17:50,680 --> 01:17:53,360
Speaker 2: clunker here, you might have started hearing some conversations about

1738
01:17:53,439 --> 01:17:55,639
Speaker 2: who's the quarterback of this team as we get closer

1739
01:17:55,680 --> 01:17:58,960
Speaker 2: to November. But did he do enough in your mind

1740
01:17:59,000 --> 01:18:00,479
Speaker 2: to just they won the game and they're not going

1741
01:18:00,520 --> 01:18:01,360
Speaker 2: to hear anything like that.

1742
01:18:01,880 --> 01:18:04,440
Speaker 16: Yeah, I means statistically he was fine. Twenty twenty nine

1743
01:18:04,680 --> 01:18:06,439
Speaker 16: and a touchdown pass. It was a nice touchdown pass

1744
01:18:06,439 --> 01:18:08,840
Speaker 16: to Courtland Sutton. It's just a good read on a

1745
01:18:08,840 --> 01:18:11,479
Speaker 16: good route concept that beat the defense. But again, it's

1746
01:18:11,560 --> 01:18:13,920
Speaker 16: kind of some of what we've been seeing from him,

1747
01:18:13,920 --> 01:18:15,559
Speaker 16: which is you see the potential. There was that game

1748
01:18:15,560 --> 01:18:17,840
Speaker 16: against Washington like a month ago where they lit it

1749
01:18:17,920 --> 01:18:19,320
Speaker 16: up in the first half, and you're like, there he is.

1750
01:18:19,360 --> 01:18:20,000
Speaker 1: That's who he is.

1751
01:18:20,280 --> 01:18:22,479
Speaker 16: But it's just not consistent whether they're playing a good

1752
01:18:22,479 --> 01:18:24,400
Speaker 16: defense and they're struggling, and they're playing an average team

1753
01:18:24,400 --> 01:18:25,000
Speaker 16: and struggling.

1754
01:18:25,760 --> 01:18:27,599
Speaker 1: There just hasn't been a lot of separation there.

1755
01:18:27,640 --> 01:18:29,680
Speaker 16: So I feel better about him under Sean Payton than

1756
01:18:29,680 --> 01:18:31,240
Speaker 16: I did a year ago because they were completely lost

1757
01:18:31,240 --> 01:18:34,200
Speaker 16: a year ago. But and he moves better, he's faster

1758
01:18:34,320 --> 01:18:36,559
Speaker 16: to process and make decisions, but he's still Russell. He

1759
01:18:36,560 --> 01:18:38,559
Speaker 16: still tries to extend to play way too long, gets

1760
01:18:38,600 --> 01:18:41,000
Speaker 16: himself into some bad situations and they end up been

1761
01:18:41,000 --> 01:18:43,120
Speaker 16: a game like this where it's a one score game

1762
01:18:43,439 --> 01:18:45,080
Speaker 16: because neither team can get out of its own way,

1763
01:18:45,080 --> 01:18:46,120
Speaker 16: and then includes Russell Wilfs.

1764
01:18:46,160 --> 01:18:47,880
Speaker 4: Do you think like so, Matt Lafloor, It's hard to

1765
01:18:47,880 --> 01:18:50,360
Speaker 4: get like a real read on a coach when he

1766
01:18:50,720 --> 01:18:53,960
Speaker 4: rolls into a head coaching situation with a Hall of

1767
01:18:54,000 --> 01:18:56,479
Speaker 4: Fame quarterback for a number of years and they roll

1768
01:18:56,520 --> 01:18:57,559
Speaker 4: through the regular season.

1769
01:18:59,120 --> 01:18:59,920
Speaker 1: I think this is a sea.

1770
01:19:00,000 --> 01:19:01,360
Speaker 4: This is where it's like, we're gonna find out who

1771
01:19:01,400 --> 01:19:02,800
Speaker 4: he is and what and what he can do, and

1772
01:19:02,840 --> 01:19:05,120
Speaker 4: what he can do creatively to get out of a

1773
01:19:05,160 --> 01:19:07,720
Speaker 4: troubling situation at quarterback. Reallying up and down, like do

1774
01:19:07,760 --> 01:19:10,120
Speaker 4: you think he's what's your take on him at this point?

1775
01:19:10,120 --> 01:19:11,800
Speaker 4: You think it's a difference making to kind of coach

1776
01:19:11,880 --> 01:19:12,479
Speaker 4: or just a guy.

1777
01:19:13,160 --> 01:19:15,400
Speaker 16: Well, you know how they take pictures of presidents when

1778
01:19:15,400 --> 01:19:17,040
Speaker 16: they first show up in the oval office and then

1779
01:19:17,040 --> 01:19:18,960
Speaker 16: they fast forward either four to eight years at the

1780
01:19:19,040 --> 01:19:22,080
Speaker 16: end of their term and they've aged significantly. I expect

1781
01:19:22,160 --> 01:19:23,679
Speaker 16: that type of aging process.

1782
01:19:23,720 --> 01:19:25,000
Speaker 1: A bearded boy no more.

1783
01:19:25,479 --> 01:19:27,120
Speaker 16: Yeah, I mean, look, he's a good looking guy, and

1784
01:19:27,160 --> 01:19:28,640
Speaker 16: I think he's gonna get a couple of wrinkles this

1785
01:19:28,760 --> 01:19:30,720
Speaker 16: year off this season because it's just so frustrating. But

1786
01:19:30,760 --> 01:19:32,600
Speaker 16: it's a product of being, you know, a coach of

1787
01:19:32,720 --> 01:19:34,800
Speaker 16: the youngest team in the NFL. You got a bunch

1788
01:19:34,800 --> 01:19:37,040
Speaker 16: of young guys who just don't have experience. You got

1789
01:19:37,040 --> 01:19:38,960
Speaker 16: a receiver goes and bails out his quarterback on a

1790
01:19:38,960 --> 01:19:41,120
Speaker 16: touchdown pass that should have been an interception if Romeo

1791
01:19:41,240 --> 01:19:43,800
Speaker 16: Dobbs hadn't tied up Patrick Surtain on a pass that

1792
01:19:43,880 --> 01:19:46,080
Speaker 16: may or may have not been an interception that was

1793
01:19:46,160 --> 01:19:50,080
Speaker 16: ruled in correctly should have been a pick. Yeah, y,

1794
01:19:50,320 --> 01:19:52,960
Speaker 16: And so he well, Flora's gonna have to overcome a

1795
01:19:53,000 --> 01:19:55,400
Speaker 16: lot of this stuff. He got frustrated with Luke Musgrave

1796
01:19:55,520 --> 01:19:57,320
Speaker 16: last week and chewed him out in the sidelines that

1797
01:19:57,360 --> 01:19:59,760
Speaker 16: everybody could see on TV. It's just gonna be a

1798
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:02,240
Speaker 16: growing pains process that's going to age him a little

1799
01:20:02,240 --> 01:20:04,000
Speaker 16: bit and they're probably not going to contend for much

1800
01:20:04,000 --> 01:20:06,320
Speaker 16: of anything. But the hope is is by the end

1801
01:20:06,360 --> 01:20:08,600
Speaker 16: of the year that your quarterback makes enough progress. So

1802
01:20:08,640 --> 01:20:10,439
Speaker 16: to answer your question, Mark, I think he is the coach.

1803
01:20:10,479 --> 01:20:11,960
Speaker 16: I think he's done enough at this point to prove

1804
01:20:12,000 --> 01:20:12,439
Speaker 16: that he is.

1805
01:20:12,520 --> 01:20:15,639
Speaker 2: But it's just I think sometimes we all get sucked

1806
01:20:15,680 --> 01:20:17,679
Speaker 2: in a little bit. And remember all those camp reports

1807
01:20:17,720 --> 01:20:19,000
Speaker 2: that are glowing like this was going to be a

1808
01:20:19,000 --> 01:20:19,839
Speaker 2: seamless handoff.

1809
01:20:20,080 --> 01:20:21,000
Speaker 1: It's going to be a process.

1810
01:20:21,000 --> 01:20:23,800
Speaker 2: The Packers have been outscored sixty three to six in

1811
01:20:23,840 --> 01:20:26,400
Speaker 2: the first half of their last four games. And here

1812
01:20:26,520 --> 01:20:30,040
Speaker 2: is is I as we kiss off the pipe. Nope.

1813
01:20:30,080 --> 01:20:35,120
Speaker 2: The Denver Broncos had lost ten consecutive games when leading

1814
01:20:35,160 --> 01:20:37,320
Speaker 2: at halftime until today.

1815
01:20:37,320 --> 01:20:41,280
Speaker 1: That is one of the more insane. That's hard to do.

1816
01:20:41,680 --> 01:20:44,400
Speaker 2: I'll see you fans. That's a tough one. That's a

1817
01:20:44,439 --> 01:20:47,639
Speaker 2: tough one. But that streak goes by the boards. Nick

1818
01:20:48,439 --> 01:20:51,040
Speaker 2: I apologize for that comment, and we'll.

1819
01:20:50,880 --> 01:20:53,920
Speaker 1: See you next week. I'm gonna go figure out what

1820
01:20:53,960 --> 01:20:54,720
Speaker 1: reverse pipe means.

1821
01:20:54,760 --> 01:20:57,240
Speaker 2: Well, see you guys later, All right, later, buddy, All right,

1822
01:20:57,320 --> 01:21:01,040
Speaker 2: let's keep moving. Let's head to Seattle where the Cardinals

1823
01:21:01,040 --> 01:21:04,519
Speaker 2: were looking to stage and upset themselves.

1824
01:21:04,800 --> 01:21:07,759
Speaker 17: If histe the formation playfake two at this time, Gino's

1825
01:21:07,760 --> 01:21:08,880
Speaker 17: gonna throw quite.

1826
01:21:08,600 --> 01:21:16,160
Speaker 20: Down the same touchdown Shayhawks Jays and with the touchdown

1827
01:21:16,760 --> 01:21:20,759
Speaker 20: his first career score in the National Football League, Tyler

1828
01:21:20,800 --> 01:21:22,160
Speaker 20: Lockin picks up the ball.

1829
01:21:22,600 --> 01:21:25,479
Speaker 1: He's gonna save it for the rookie out.

1830
01:21:25,280 --> 01:21:30,240
Speaker 17: Of Ohio State twenty eight yards and a dart thrown.

1831
01:21:30,000 --> 01:21:34,200
Speaker 1: By Gino Smith. The Seahawks on the board. First day

1832
01:21:34,280 --> 01:21:37,280
Speaker 1: lead six times. Very nice Steve were able to call.

1833
01:21:38,720 --> 01:21:42,040
Speaker 2: Seahawks Radio Kenneth Walker the third ran for a bucko

1834
01:21:42,080 --> 01:21:46,040
Speaker 2: five and yes, Jackson Smith and Jigba and Jake Bobo

1835
01:21:46,200 --> 01:21:49,120
Speaker 2: nice year for Bobo. Both got first half touchdown passes,

1836
01:21:49,680 --> 01:21:52,720
Speaker 2: Seahawks take care of business twenty to ten over the

1837
01:21:52,720 --> 01:21:56,599
Speaker 2: one win Cardinals. Class sounds like a classic Marquee take

1838
01:21:56,640 --> 01:21:58,800
Speaker 2: care of business effort for Seattle. Maybe one of those

1839
01:21:58,800 --> 01:22:03,920
Speaker 2: old Milton Burrell games taken out just enough needed, very

1840
01:22:04,400 --> 01:22:05,760
Speaker 2: Milton Burlish.

1841
01:22:05,840 --> 01:22:09,439
Speaker 3: Yes, I you now had an abbot in Castello and

1842
01:22:10,040 --> 01:22:11,599
Speaker 3: Burroll reference, who are you out?

1843
01:22:11,640 --> 01:22:15,000
Speaker 1: Michael's hey all the way back? Maybe poor Al.

1844
01:22:15,080 --> 01:22:17,080
Speaker 4: You're right, though, it was. It really was take care

1845
01:22:17,080 --> 01:22:18,920
Speaker 4: of business. And I get at this point, I'm kind

1846
01:22:18,920 --> 01:22:21,240
Speaker 4: of like, all right, Cardinals, I get it. You're gonna

1847
01:22:21,280 --> 01:22:24,479
Speaker 4: do this every week. You're gonna hang around they've lost. No,

1848
01:22:24,560 --> 01:22:27,559
Speaker 4: I don't know, but it's like, no, but this whole

1849
01:22:27,560 --> 01:22:30,639
Speaker 4: thing about like like, so you are in this game

1850
01:22:30,800 --> 01:22:34,200
Speaker 4: in Seattle. I mean, this was not Seattle's shining moment

1851
01:22:34,280 --> 01:22:37,639
Speaker 4: because there were a series of drives in the third

1852
01:22:37,640 --> 01:22:40,320
Speaker 4: and fourth quarter where Seattle was sort of inviting the

1853
01:22:40,320 --> 01:22:42,879
Speaker 4: Cardinals to come on, make this thing close. It's seventeen

1854
01:22:42,920 --> 01:22:47,599
Speaker 4: to ten and Gino Smith gets intercepted at Arizona's one

1855
01:22:47,680 --> 01:22:50,840
Speaker 4: yard line. The next drive they're at thirty you at

1856
01:22:50,840 --> 01:22:53,400
Speaker 4: the Arizona two. They get nailed with a holding call,

1857
01:22:53,400 --> 01:22:54,920
Speaker 4: get stuck at a field goal, gott to punch it

1858
01:22:54,960 --> 01:22:58,800
Speaker 4: in there. Then next drive, Gino Smith fumbles the ball

1859
01:22:58,880 --> 01:23:01,800
Speaker 4: in Seattle's territory and they're lucky that Arizona misses the

1860
01:23:01,800 --> 01:23:04,000
Speaker 4: field goal there. So it's like Cardinals had a chance

1861
01:23:04,040 --> 01:23:06,679
Speaker 4: to get back into this, but their final six drives

1862
01:23:06,720 --> 01:23:11,640
Speaker 4: the Cardinals wore downs, punt, punt, that missfield goal. I

1863
01:23:11,680 --> 01:23:13,880
Speaker 4: mentioned downs, downs. I don't know how many times you

1864
01:23:13,920 --> 01:23:15,680
Speaker 4: can go out on fourth down here, but it's like

1865
01:23:16,000 --> 01:23:18,200
Speaker 4: they're not able to complete it. I think it's important

1866
01:23:18,200 --> 01:23:20,400
Speaker 4: that for the Cardinals, we didn't mention this on Thursday,

1867
01:23:20,760 --> 01:23:23,679
Speaker 4: that Kyler Murray's back in that twenty one day window,

1868
01:23:23,840 --> 01:23:26,240
Speaker 4: and it sounds like from the reporting from Rapaport and

1869
01:23:26,240 --> 01:23:29,599
Speaker 4: others that they are intent on playing him and playing

1870
01:23:29,680 --> 01:23:31,439
Speaker 4: him a lot and as soon as possible. So this

1871
01:23:31,760 --> 01:23:34,080
Speaker 4: conspiracy theory that I clung to to some degree that

1872
01:23:34,120 --> 01:23:36,920
Speaker 4: maybe we never saw Kyler Murray this season will not

1873
01:23:36,960 --> 01:23:39,000
Speaker 4: be true. And they do play hard and they do

1874
01:23:39,080 --> 01:23:41,519
Speaker 4: hang around. But Seattle, I think one thing that came

1875
01:23:41,560 --> 01:23:44,320
Speaker 4: away with this game. They have some young players that

1876
01:23:44,360 --> 01:23:46,439
Speaker 4: are really interesting. You mentioned Jake bobl guy can play

1877
01:23:46,479 --> 01:23:49,360
Speaker 4: like he made an incredible catch today, maybe the catch

1878
01:23:49,360 --> 01:23:52,080
Speaker 4: of the day league wide, and it's like this guy

1879
01:23:52,120 --> 01:23:55,840
Speaker 4: can do it. Like Devin Witherspoon, every game seems to

1880
01:23:55,880 --> 01:23:58,439
Speaker 4: blow someone's world up. He had a hit today that

1881
01:23:58,600 --> 01:24:02,080
Speaker 4: was maybe one of the most massive, devastating elements of

1882
01:24:02,120 --> 01:24:04,960
Speaker 4: contact that I've seen all season. And I just kind

1883
01:24:04,960 --> 01:24:07,840
Speaker 4: of dig these and I think on Thursday I wanted

1884
01:24:07,840 --> 01:24:10,559
Speaker 4: to see Jackson Smith and Jig but like show up,

1885
01:24:10,600 --> 01:24:12,479
Speaker 4: and he did today. You know, you didn't have DK

1886
01:24:12,560 --> 01:24:14,880
Speaker 4: Metcalf and these guys are making plays.

1887
01:24:14,920 --> 01:24:16,799
Speaker 1: So that's my hope for Seattle.

1888
01:24:16,840 --> 01:24:18,880
Speaker 4: They don't wow me as a team that's gonna knock

1889
01:24:18,880 --> 01:24:21,400
Speaker 4: people off in the playoffs. They're sort of just a

1890
01:24:21,439 --> 01:24:24,160
Speaker 4: team to me, but a better than average team.

1891
01:24:24,400 --> 01:24:27,599
Speaker 3: They didn't have DK Metcalf today. I mean, all these

1892
01:24:27,640 --> 01:24:30,880
Speaker 3: teams changed so much. The Seahawks have changed quite a

1893
01:24:30,960 --> 01:24:35,519
Speaker 3: bit for me already through seven weeks. I'm so much

1894
01:24:35,560 --> 01:24:38,240
Speaker 3: higher on their defense than I was a month ago.

1895
01:24:38,640 --> 01:24:40,200
Speaker 3: And I was wondering what they were going to do

1896
01:24:40,240 --> 01:24:42,439
Speaker 3: with Spoon because they had that crazy game on Monday

1897
01:24:42,479 --> 01:24:44,639
Speaker 3: Night Football where he was really only in the slot

1898
01:24:44,680 --> 01:24:46,920
Speaker 3: because Jamal Adams got hurt. And it's like, oh, Yeah,

1899
01:24:46,920 --> 01:24:49,360
Speaker 3: we're gonna leave him there. We're not gonna mess with him.

1900
01:24:49,400 --> 01:24:52,000
Speaker 3: We're gonna play the safeties around him. We're gonna let

1901
01:24:52,120 --> 01:24:54,000
Speaker 3: him be as close to the ball as possible. And

1902
01:24:54,040 --> 01:24:56,360
Speaker 3: they really have something there, and Wagner and Brooks are

1903
01:24:56,400 --> 01:24:59,439
Speaker 3: playing well together. And if they haven't had an above

1904
01:24:59,439 --> 01:25:03,320
Speaker 3: average defense literally for I think eight years, I think

1905
01:25:03,320 --> 01:25:06,640
Speaker 3: it was twenty fifteen, if they have a fun defense,

1906
01:25:07,040 --> 01:25:08,680
Speaker 3: then you can win games like this where look, they

1907
01:25:08,720 --> 01:25:12,000
Speaker 3: handled the Cardinals offense better than most defenses had this year,

1908
01:25:12,240 --> 01:25:14,280
Speaker 3: and then they got something where they could be pretty

1909
01:25:14,320 --> 01:25:16,760
Speaker 3: dangerous with enough weapons on offense too.

1910
01:25:18,439 --> 01:25:21,080
Speaker 2: Gino has been picked inside the twenty back to back weeks.

1911
01:25:21,160 --> 01:25:25,360
Speaker 2: That didn't happen at all with Seattle before the last

1912
01:25:25,360 --> 01:25:27,799
Speaker 2: two weeks, so he's got to protect the ball there.

1913
01:25:28,120 --> 01:25:28,680
Speaker 1: As we know.

1914
01:25:28,960 --> 01:25:32,879
Speaker 2: And I'll throw out one more nugget that the Cardinals

1915
01:25:32,880 --> 01:25:36,080
Speaker 2: mark did not cross one hundred yards passing until the

1916
01:25:36,120 --> 01:25:38,800
Speaker 2: fourth quarter, So Josh Dobbs, maybe that plays into a

1917
01:25:38,840 --> 01:25:41,120
Speaker 2: little bit of the team itching to get another look

1918
01:25:41,160 --> 01:25:44,920
Speaker 2: at their high paid supposed superstar quarterback on the men

1919
01:25:45,000 --> 01:25:45,960
Speaker 2: for acl.

1920
01:25:45,720 --> 01:25:48,200
Speaker 4: I will say Dobbs like in the last you know

1921
01:25:48,400 --> 01:25:50,400
Speaker 4: this season, but also what he did with the Titans

1922
01:25:50,439 --> 01:25:53,000
Speaker 4: at the end of last year. That's a nice way

1923
01:25:53,000 --> 01:25:54,720
Speaker 4: to carve out a five or six year career going

1924
01:25:54,760 --> 01:25:57,799
Speaker 4: forward like this is one of the better backup quarterbacks

1925
01:25:57,800 --> 01:25:58,760
Speaker 4: in the league.

1926
01:25:59,320 --> 01:26:02,519
Speaker 3: The target, it sounds like for Murray would not be

1927
01:26:02,840 --> 01:26:06,160
Speaker 3: next week, week eight, but potentially as soon as week nine.

1928
01:26:06,360 --> 01:26:09,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, and there's a deadline in play where you have

1929
01:26:09,240 --> 01:26:12,000
Speaker 2: to have him right on the field or he's done

1930
01:26:12,040 --> 01:26:14,080
Speaker 2: for the year. So it looks like it's trending that way.

1931
01:26:14,560 --> 01:26:16,519
Speaker 2: Before we get Sunda Night football, Let's close it out

1932
01:26:16,760 --> 01:26:20,320
Speaker 2: with a little Raiders Bears at Soldier Field.

1933
01:26:20,720 --> 01:26:22,559
Speaker 6: Left to right, five forty six to go in the

1934
01:26:22,560 --> 01:26:22,960
Speaker 6: ball game.

1935
01:26:23,120 --> 01:26:25,439
Speaker 1: Still, by time you get one Ryan Hoyer first.

1936
01:26:25,280 --> 01:26:27,200
Speaker 6: Out, it's out of the twenty five four man a rush.

1937
01:26:27,240 --> 01:26:30,120
Speaker 1: It's coming home, but Royer bros. Left hand, it's intershed

1938
01:26:30,160 --> 01:26:32,040
Speaker 1: up to Jenny Johnson. Goodbye baby.

1939
01:26:32,200 --> 01:26:40,639
Speaker 6: Twenty fifteen ten Bick six touchdown. There an exclamation point

1940
01:26:40,760 --> 01:26:44,720
Speaker 6: by a job well done by the Bears defense, his

1941
01:26:44,920 --> 01:26:50,280
Speaker 6: second career interception and his first touchdown. Lawyer's been staring

1942
01:26:50,400 --> 01:26:54,880
Speaker 6: left all day. Justin broke on it. It took it

1943
01:26:54,920 --> 01:26:55,479
Speaker 6: to the house.

1944
01:26:56,600 --> 01:26:59,080
Speaker 2: The Raiders went into the season, saying Brian Hoyer is

1945
01:26:59,120 --> 01:27:02,479
Speaker 2: our backup. Josh McDaniel said, though, but yeah again, you

1946
01:27:02,760 --> 01:27:06,479
Speaker 2: get what you ask. Yeah, Jalen Johnson with a pick six,

1947
01:27:07,400 --> 01:27:10,719
Speaker 2: Tyson beagent, nice job, three touchdown drives on the first half.

1948
01:27:11,479 --> 01:27:15,240
Speaker 2: Excuse me in this first start with Justin Fields out

1949
01:27:15,280 --> 01:27:19,760
Speaker 2: with that hand issue, and the Chicago Bears cruise to

1950
01:27:19,880 --> 01:27:23,680
Speaker 2: a thirty twelve win over the Raiders. The Raiders are

1951
01:27:23,680 --> 01:27:26,040
Speaker 2: three and four, but it feels like they're one and six.

1952
01:27:26,080 --> 01:27:27,760
Speaker 2: But they're three and four and the Bear has now

1953
01:27:27,760 --> 01:27:34,360
Speaker 2: improved to two and five. Greg certain corners of Twitter

1954
01:27:34,960 --> 01:27:39,280
Speaker 2: slash x, you know, chirping about the idea of is

1955
01:27:39,320 --> 01:27:41,639
Speaker 2: Beijing actually better for this offense than Justin Fields?

1956
01:27:41,640 --> 01:27:43,120
Speaker 1: You're gonna buy into that. Do you see anything in

1957
01:27:43,120 --> 01:27:43,519
Speaker 1: this kid?

1958
01:27:44,479 --> 01:27:48,120
Speaker 3: I thought he played really well today. I it wasn't

1959
01:27:48,160 --> 01:27:52,200
Speaker 3: about him, He didn't have to do that much, but

1960
01:27:52,800 --> 01:27:55,800
Speaker 3: he played like a guy who is gonna be in

1961
01:27:55,840 --> 01:27:59,599
Speaker 3: the NFL for nine or ten years. Job's thing you mentioned, Dobbs, Yeah,

1962
01:27:59,680 --> 01:28:01,439
Speaker 3: I mean, who knows what his ceiling's gonna be. This

1963
01:28:01,520 --> 01:28:04,400
Speaker 3: is a rookie playing his first start, undrafted rookie, but

1964
01:28:04,840 --> 01:28:08,160
Speaker 3: what he did was get to his second read more

1965
01:28:08,200 --> 01:28:12,400
Speaker 3: than once, not do anything stupid really the whole day

1966
01:28:13,320 --> 01:28:16,240
Speaker 3: and run and look comfortable.

1967
01:28:16,280 --> 01:28:17,320
Speaker 1: He's twenty one for twenty nine.

1968
01:28:17,360 --> 01:28:21,120
Speaker 3: One sixty two is nothing crazy, But I felt like, man,

1969
01:28:21,160 --> 01:28:23,720
Speaker 3: they might have something here when almost immediately when he

1970
01:28:23,760 --> 01:28:26,200
Speaker 3: scrambled on the third down where he goes through his reads,

1971
01:28:26,360 --> 01:28:29,360
Speaker 3: he gets the first down and then he's asking a

1972
01:28:29,439 --> 01:28:31,760
Speaker 3: moribun soldier field crowd.

1973
01:28:31,479 --> 01:28:37,160
Speaker 1: To give him some freaking lovey like just like he played.

1974
01:28:37,439 --> 01:28:41,840
Speaker 3: Like a confident young young player who was like not

1975
01:28:41,840 --> 01:28:43,960
Speaker 3: not at all, you know, cowed by the moment. He

1976
01:28:44,000 --> 01:28:46,800
Speaker 3: only took three quarterback hits, and yes that's partly because

1977
01:28:46,800 --> 01:28:48,880
Speaker 3: of the Raiders, partly because of the good game plan

1978
01:28:48,920 --> 01:28:50,240
Speaker 3: By gets to getting the ball out of his head,

1979
01:28:50,360 --> 01:28:52,559
Speaker 3: but it's probably because he wasn't holding on to the ball.

1980
01:28:52,600 --> 01:28:55,720
Speaker 3: So it looked like a functional offense today for one

1981
01:28:55,760 --> 01:28:57,320
Speaker 3: of the first times all year. I mean they've had

1982
01:28:57,360 --> 01:28:59,200
Speaker 3: they've been up and down, even with fields. They were

1983
01:28:59,200 --> 01:29:02,040
Speaker 3: putting up some yardage numbers. But it was a very

1984
01:29:02,040 --> 01:29:04,000
Speaker 3: good performance by Like the Bears happy for him.

1985
01:29:04,040 --> 01:29:07,360
Speaker 4: The Bear's defense has been such a disaster under Matt

1986
01:29:07,360 --> 01:29:10,439
Speaker 4: ebra Flus this season. Like, so I get you're playing

1987
01:29:10,439 --> 01:29:12,160
Speaker 4: the Raiders, who are you know, you're dealing with a

1988
01:29:12,200 --> 01:29:15,639
Speaker 4: backup quarterback and their their offensive lines got issues. Their

1989
01:29:15,720 --> 01:29:18,760
Speaker 4: running game is dead on arrival. So is it that

1990
01:29:19,000 --> 01:29:21,960
Speaker 4: or Chicago's defense sort of turning the corner maybe a

1991
01:29:21,960 --> 01:29:22,400
Speaker 4: little bit.

1992
01:29:22,960 --> 01:29:26,360
Speaker 3: They've been a little better certainly the last couple of Look,

1993
01:29:26,400 --> 01:29:30,559
Speaker 3: they have two wins by what was this by? By

1994
01:29:30,600 --> 01:29:32,720
Speaker 3: twenty plus points. I'm just saying the last cut this

1995
01:29:33,160 --> 01:29:34,960
Speaker 3: has been a little bit different. Remember I tried it

1996
01:29:34,960 --> 01:29:37,680
Speaker 3: out that that stat about the Texans a couple of

1997
01:29:37,720 --> 01:29:40,439
Speaker 3: weeks ago, that they have more seventeen plus point wins

1998
01:29:40,600 --> 01:29:43,000
Speaker 3: than the Vikings have had for the last four years combines. Well,

1999
01:29:43,000 --> 01:29:45,800
Speaker 3: now the Bears have too in the last two weeks. So, yes,

2000
01:29:45,840 --> 01:29:48,720
Speaker 3: the Bears defense played better, but they were helped out

2001
01:29:48,720 --> 01:29:52,360
Speaker 3: by Hoyer starting this game. Josh McDaniels is living in

2002
01:29:52,360 --> 01:29:57,400
Speaker 3: his fears. Starting him over O'Connell was insane. Why oh

2003
01:29:57,560 --> 01:30:00,680
Speaker 3: Hoyer was staring down receivers. He was begging for a

2004
01:30:00,720 --> 01:30:02,559
Speaker 3: pick six all day. He ends up with one hundred

2005
01:30:02,560 --> 01:30:06,200
Speaker 3: and twenty nine yards and two interceptions on thirty two attempts,

2006
01:30:06,520 --> 01:30:08,839
Speaker 3: and he was making the types of mistakes if O'Connell

2007
01:30:08,840 --> 01:30:10,240
Speaker 3: was making it the whole time, you're like, go, oh,

2008
01:30:10,280 --> 01:30:13,240
Speaker 3: that's a rookie. That's a rookie, just like locking into

2009
01:30:13,320 --> 01:30:17,160
Speaker 3: certain guys. Almost every pass he through was touched by

2010
01:30:17,200 --> 01:30:20,479
Speaker 3: a Bears defender. It was just like, is the Raiders

2011
01:30:20,520 --> 01:30:23,200
Speaker 3: it's DeVante Adam's going to make a contested catch? Or

2012
01:30:23,320 --> 01:30:24,519
Speaker 3: are they going to intercept the ball?

2013
01:30:24,520 --> 01:30:25,080
Speaker 1: Are they going to.

2014
01:30:25,280 --> 01:30:28,160
Speaker 4: Layers lost thirteen straight starts and what are you even

2015
01:30:28,200 --> 01:30:29,040
Speaker 4: telling your locker room?

2016
01:30:29,400 --> 01:30:30,439
Speaker 1: They shouldn't be playing.

2017
01:30:30,560 --> 01:30:33,280
Speaker 5: But O'Connell in there, like skeet let the young players.

2018
01:30:33,920 --> 01:30:37,160
Speaker 2: There's a great line in the final season of Succession. Actually,

2019
01:30:37,160 --> 01:30:40,360
Speaker 2: I think it's the last scene with Logan Roy the

2020
01:30:40,360 --> 01:30:45,200
Speaker 2: patriarch and the children at a karaoke bar I think

2021
01:30:45,240 --> 01:30:51,120
Speaker 2: in Chinatown, and he goes after they you know, they

2022
01:30:51,760 --> 01:30:54,479
Speaker 2: unload on the father, you know, because they want to

2023
01:30:54,680 --> 01:30:56,880
Speaker 2: have control of the company, and then he kind of

2024
01:30:56,920 --> 01:30:59,120
Speaker 2: just buries him and he goes, I love you, but

2025
01:30:59,280 --> 01:31:03,400
Speaker 2: you'll not see it people. And that's what I feel

2026
01:31:03,840 --> 01:31:07,559
Speaker 2: like the Raiders, and specifically McDaniels when he's making decisions

2027
01:31:07,560 --> 01:31:10,360
Speaker 2: like this, like you're not a serious head coach.

2028
01:31:11,120 --> 01:31:13,880
Speaker 1: I can't I can't get even invested in them. Right now.

2029
01:31:13,880 --> 01:31:15,960
Speaker 3: Do you want to know the moment? Well, they're gonna

2030
01:31:15,960 --> 01:31:17,720
Speaker 3: be on Monday Night Football next week. I think it's

2031
01:31:17,760 --> 01:31:20,439
Speaker 3: their last primetime game. But my god, it's line. It's

2032
01:31:20,479 --> 01:31:23,000
Speaker 3: Lines Raiders Monday Night watch US on Channel five in

2033
01:31:23,040 --> 01:31:28,719
Speaker 3: the UK. Uh Daniel Carlson kicked a twenty five yard

2034
01:31:28,800 --> 01:31:31,960
Speaker 3: field goal on fourth and you know, I think it

2035
01:31:32,000 --> 01:31:34,400
Speaker 3: was at like the six or seven, after a seven minute,

2036
01:31:34,520 --> 01:31:38,080
Speaker 3: fifteen play drive to cut the score to twenty one

2037
01:31:38,160 --> 01:31:40,200
Speaker 3: to six. You're like, oh, okay, well that must have

2038
01:31:40,240 --> 01:31:43,040
Speaker 3: been in the second quarter, maybe early thre No, that

2039
01:31:43,120 --> 01:31:43,439
Speaker 3: was the.

2040
01:31:43,760 --> 01:31:45,840
Speaker 1: That was in the fourth quarter. Logan, that was in

2041
01:31:45,920 --> 01:31:48,240
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. It was twenty one to three, and he.

2042
01:31:48,280 --> 01:31:50,439
Speaker 3: Asked for a field goal and there were actually some

2043
01:31:50,560 --> 01:31:52,800
Speaker 3: Raiders fans that risk and I was like, you can't

2044
01:31:52,800 --> 01:31:55,040
Speaker 3: be serious. Jasse mcdoners are like, well it cuts into

2045
01:31:55,160 --> 01:31:57,840
Speaker 3: two scores. What about this game was gonna tell you

2046
01:31:57,960 --> 01:31:59,719
Speaker 3: that they were going to get down there to possibly

2047
01:31:59,760 --> 01:32:01,479
Speaker 3: score a touch on or that they would stop the

2048
01:32:01,479 --> 01:32:03,439
Speaker 3: Bears running game. The Bears, of course, probably went on

2049
01:32:03,479 --> 01:32:06,240
Speaker 3: a seven minute drive and put points up by themselves.

2050
01:32:06,280 --> 01:32:08,000
Speaker 1: It's just you're right, they're not as serious. I heard

2051
01:32:08,040 --> 01:32:10,280
Speaker 1: Greg going off about this this during the day in

2052
01:32:10,320 --> 01:32:14,000
Speaker 1: the news. This because I you know, because and attached.

2053
01:32:14,040 --> 01:32:16,479
Speaker 1: I have an attachment to Josh McDaniels. He was part

2054
01:32:16,520 --> 01:32:18,920
Speaker 1: of a lot of great moments. You know what.

2055
01:32:19,120 --> 01:32:22,200
Speaker 2: Yep, he might be have success yet in this league

2056
01:32:22,640 --> 01:32:25,960
Speaker 2: as an offensive coordinator. But this ain't a thing. Before

2057
01:32:26,000 --> 01:32:28,080
Speaker 2: we move on, I want to say, can we put

2058
01:32:28,160 --> 01:32:30,280
Speaker 2: you know, our producer? By far, We've had a lot

2059
01:32:30,280 --> 01:32:33,639
Speaker 2: of producers. It's turning into like a a good drummer

2060
01:32:33,640 --> 01:32:36,439
Speaker 2: from a spinal tap situation. The pop culture references are

2061
01:32:36,479 --> 01:32:40,920
Speaker 2: all over, spanning the decades, Greg forties, fifties, eighties, thousands.

2062
01:32:43,439 --> 01:32:45,200
Speaker 2: Let's take a look at Tyson Badgin when he got

2063
01:32:45,200 --> 01:32:49,280
Speaker 2: the uh the game ball. I mean Eric Roberts what

2064
01:32:49,320 --> 01:32:51,960
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, Eric Roberts is the most inked

2065
01:32:52,040 --> 01:32:53,120
Speaker 2: producer we ever had.

2066
01:32:54,120 --> 01:32:57,679
Speaker 5: Yes, by far, this is gonna that Sydney was closed.

2067
01:32:57,920 --> 01:33:01,200
Speaker 2: He was not since not since Age McCarn have we

2068
01:33:01,280 --> 01:33:02,360
Speaker 2: seen ink like this?

2069
01:33:03,439 --> 01:33:04,280
Speaker 1: Would you look at that?

2070
01:33:04,479 --> 01:33:07,120
Speaker 2: I mean, that is a lot of work and Eric, yeah,

2071
01:33:07,200 --> 01:33:10,600
Speaker 2: you're a man who's turned your body into a canvas

2072
01:33:13,000 --> 01:33:16,520
Speaker 2: to get that amount of work done on the breastplate

2073
01:33:16,560 --> 01:33:20,040
Speaker 2: and surrounding territories. That's gotta be you gotta have respect

2074
01:33:20,040 --> 01:33:20,479
Speaker 2: for that, right right.

2075
01:33:20,560 --> 01:33:22,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, we talked about a little bit before. It's a

2076
01:33:22,520 --> 01:33:23,360
Speaker 1: lot of work.

2077
01:33:23,520 --> 01:33:26,599
Speaker 9: A full chess piece across the shoulder down to looks

2078
01:33:26,720 --> 01:33:29,120
Speaker 9: like at least the mid forearm, and it's a lot

2079
01:33:29,120 --> 01:33:31,759
Speaker 9: of like scripture, a lot of like it looks religious.

2080
01:33:31,760 --> 01:33:34,679
Speaker 9: But yeah, the breastplate is what I've heard, is probably

2081
01:33:34,760 --> 01:33:37,679
Speaker 9: the most painful. My brother has a pretty big American

2082
01:33:37,720 --> 01:33:41,840
Speaker 9: eagle brother across his chest, and he has a bunch.

2083
01:33:41,920 --> 01:33:43,599
Speaker 9: My whole family has a bunch. And he said that's

2084
01:33:43,640 --> 01:33:45,800
Speaker 9: the only one where he thought about, like tapping outude.

2085
01:33:45,800 --> 01:33:50,680
Speaker 1: He's got a prop engine lane on his I mean left.

2086
01:33:51,280 --> 01:33:55,320
Speaker 3: His dad is like the seventeenth time arm wrestling champion

2087
01:33:55,520 --> 01:33:56,480
Speaker 3: of the universe.

2088
01:33:56,920 --> 01:33:59,240
Speaker 5: Yeah right, they're built different.

2089
01:33:59,280 --> 01:34:01,080
Speaker 1: In the Beijing, you love it. He's pretty.

2090
01:34:01,080 --> 01:34:02,800
Speaker 9: He's brown out pretty hard in this video where the

2091
01:34:03,080 --> 01:34:06,360
Speaker 9: game ball backwards hat trucker hat and tatted up respect

2092
01:34:06,400 --> 01:34:07,479
Speaker 9: him though it was pretty cool.

2093
01:34:07,520 --> 01:34:10,240
Speaker 3: I I don't, you know, don't let him win another

2094
01:34:10,280 --> 01:34:13,240
Speaker 3: game or else. Like the discourse in Chicago will just

2095
01:34:13,280 --> 01:34:14,920
Speaker 3: be a little too much. But I think we they

2096
01:34:15,040 --> 01:34:17,719
Speaker 3: I think we can have a nice story without making

2097
01:34:17,760 --> 01:34:19,720
Speaker 3: it like him or him type of thing.

2098
01:34:20,840 --> 01:34:22,799
Speaker 5: Do you do you have any tattoos?

2099
01:34:22,800 --> 01:34:23,040
Speaker 1: Stand?

2100
01:34:23,400 --> 01:34:26,920
Speaker 4: No, not like would you would you be could be

2101
01:34:27,240 --> 01:34:29,280
Speaker 4: be compelled to get one? I know Greg does No?

2102
01:34:29,400 --> 01:34:32,280
Speaker 2: I mean you guys too, You would turned into uh

2103
01:34:32,400 --> 01:34:33,960
Speaker 2: you know, like I'm in a biker bar when I

2104
01:34:33,960 --> 01:34:34,439
Speaker 2: step in here.

2105
01:34:34,520 --> 01:34:37,280
Speaker 1: Every time I look at you, guys, you have new.

2106
01:34:36,880 --> 01:34:40,439
Speaker 2: But uh uh no, I I've never had the urge

2107
01:34:40,520 --> 01:34:43,480
Speaker 2: quite not your body judgmental.

2108
01:34:43,920 --> 01:34:46,479
Speaker 1: It's fine. I hope you. I hope you have that opinion.

2109
01:34:46,920 --> 01:34:49,599
Speaker 4: Like I'm not no judging your way. I'm not saying

2110
01:34:49,640 --> 01:34:51,200
Speaker 4: that you should have them. I just didn't know. I've

2111
01:34:51,240 --> 01:34:52,879
Speaker 4: not seen your entire.

2112
01:34:52,840 --> 01:34:54,640
Speaker 1: It would I mean you knew it.

2113
01:34:54,680 --> 01:34:57,439
Speaker 3: Wouldn't it be shocking if Dan was like, yeah, I've

2114
01:34:57,479 --> 01:35:00,400
Speaker 3: got a Taylor Swift on my lower back, that would

2115
01:35:00,439 --> 01:35:00,840
Speaker 3: be But I.

2116
01:35:00,760 --> 01:35:01,760
Speaker 1: Mean it could be something else.

2117
01:35:02,160 --> 01:35:05,280
Speaker 2: No, nothing yet, but open minded if something really strikes me.

2118
01:35:05,400 --> 01:35:06,720
Speaker 1: Yep, good, All right.

2119
01:35:06,720 --> 01:35:08,800
Speaker 3: Shout out to that listener who had to heed the call,

2120
01:35:09,000 --> 01:35:11,200
Speaker 3: uh tattoo in a similar spot.

2121
01:35:11,000 --> 01:35:13,680
Speaker 1: Is matching me? You're right. All that photo.

2122
01:35:13,400 --> 01:35:16,200
Speaker 3: In London that was even the font I think was similar.

2123
01:35:16,280 --> 01:35:18,280
Speaker 3: I have like the typewriter fond he didn't go all

2124
01:35:18,320 --> 01:35:20,200
Speaker 3: caps like me. It's pretty similar.

2125
01:35:21,120 --> 01:35:24,240
Speaker 1: Did you a little annoyed actually sneaking like, hey, that's

2126
01:35:24,280 --> 01:35:25,280
Speaker 1: my ipe.

2127
01:35:26,120 --> 01:35:29,840
Speaker 3: No, we've seen for many listeners that have heed the

2128
01:35:29,880 --> 01:35:33,160
Speaker 3: call tattoos and I it's on one of the things

2129
01:35:33,600 --> 01:35:36,640
Speaker 3: that gives me like the most amount of joy in

2130
01:35:36,760 --> 01:35:39,280
Speaker 3: thinking about Chris seeing those out there.

2131
01:35:39,360 --> 01:35:40,000
Speaker 1: It's pretty cool.

2132
01:35:40,040 --> 01:35:41,760
Speaker 4: Greg was not going to let you turn in that

2133
01:35:41,840 --> 01:35:45,360
Speaker 4: into something they're did so just a nice try that

2134
01:35:45,439 --> 01:35:48,639
Speaker 4: you're weird. The Sunday Night Football check it out.

2135
01:35:48,520 --> 01:35:52,160
Speaker 6: On three Hurts takes the gun, goes to game well,

2136
01:35:52,520 --> 01:35:54,080
Speaker 6: game well, spins.

2137
01:35:53,800 --> 01:35:58,760
Speaker 18: Pigs down not to be denied, jinny game Weell takes

2138
01:35:58,800 --> 01:36:01,559
Speaker 18: this thing off the left and he gets hit on

2139
01:36:01,600 --> 01:36:04,360
Speaker 18: about the two yard lines, but he smells paper.

2140
01:36:05,240 --> 01:36:08,000
Speaker 1: I spin, he keeps his balance and he's into the

2141
01:36:08,000 --> 01:36:10,960
Speaker 1: in jone like, that's what they call a cartwheel? He

2142
01:36:11,080 --> 01:36:14,080
Speaker 1: caught wheeled at the end zone. Is that a cartwheel?

2143
01:36:14,120 --> 01:36:17,760
Speaker 1: That was a cartwheel? Well, yeah, you know he's just

2144
01:36:17,840 --> 01:36:19,280
Speaker 1: about to say that.

2145
01:36:19,360 --> 01:36:22,639
Speaker 2: Merril reeson Mike Quick, we're a great batman and Robin

2146
01:36:22,720 --> 01:36:25,160
Speaker 2: there and then Merril comes in with the cartwheel.

2147
01:36:25,200 --> 01:36:29,480
Speaker 3: Wasn't a cartwheels like a Spinnerama, Spinnerama.

2148
01:36:29,640 --> 01:36:33,920
Speaker 2: Okay, now I'll I could run with Spinnerama anyway. Yes,

2149
01:36:34,040 --> 01:36:38,400
Speaker 2: it was a nice short touchdown run by Kennethan Gainwell,

2150
01:36:39,080 --> 01:36:44,040
Speaker 2: and the Philadelphia Eagles use a strong second half to

2151
01:36:44,120 --> 01:36:47,680
Speaker 2: take care of business thirty one seventeen at home over

2152
01:36:47,720 --> 01:36:50,200
Speaker 2: the Miami Dolphins. So the Eagles moved to six and one,

2153
01:36:51,160 --> 01:36:53,280
Speaker 2: proving to three and zero at home and you know,

2154
01:36:53,400 --> 01:36:57,080
Speaker 2: putting some of that bad bad blood of the week

2155
01:36:57,200 --> 01:37:02,640
Speaker 2: six loss to the Jets to bed and Greg is

2156
01:37:02,720 --> 01:37:05,240
Speaker 2: a great finish for this team because after a pick

2157
01:37:05,320 --> 01:37:09,600
Speaker 2: six by Hurts in the third quarter, it's seventeen seventeen,

2158
01:37:09,880 --> 01:37:13,040
Speaker 2: and then Philly did what a true Super Bowl contender

2159
01:37:13,160 --> 01:37:14,960
Speaker 2: does against another big time opponent.

2160
01:37:15,479 --> 01:37:16,920
Speaker 1: They just took control.

2161
01:37:17,400 --> 01:37:20,720
Speaker 3: I think this was a major step forward for the

2162
01:37:20,760 --> 01:37:23,760
Speaker 3: Eagles to get this to five and one to six

2163
01:37:23,800 --> 01:37:26,479
Speaker 3: and one, rather because they checked a lot of boxes.

2164
01:37:26,600 --> 01:37:30,760
Speaker 3: Neither of these teams had really played quality opposition. If

2165
01:37:30,760 --> 01:37:33,839
Speaker 3: you look at the five wins the Dolphins had against

2166
01:37:33,840 --> 01:37:36,240
Speaker 3: soft teams. The one time they played another good team,

2167
01:37:36,280 --> 01:37:40,599
Speaker 3: they got smoked. Philadelphia comes into this game and they

2168
01:37:40,640 --> 01:37:42,719
Speaker 3: know they're catching the Dolphins at the right time. Zavian

2169
01:37:42,720 --> 01:37:45,000
Speaker 3: Howard is out, the offensive line is injured, they lose

2170
01:37:45,040 --> 01:37:48,120
Speaker 3: Isaiah Win right off the bat, and they looked like

2171
01:37:48,200 --> 01:37:50,960
Speaker 3: the better team. But I think it's a box check

2172
01:37:51,040 --> 01:37:55,880
Speaker 3: for Sean Decai, their defensive coordinator was just kind of

2173
01:37:55,960 --> 01:37:58,160
Speaker 3: learning on the job. Who comes up with a really

2174
01:37:58,160 --> 01:38:01,320
Speaker 3: good game plan. It's a box check for their defensive line.

2175
01:38:01,320 --> 01:38:03,800
Speaker 3: If you're gonna make all that money, let's get after

2176
01:38:03,840 --> 01:38:06,280
Speaker 3: the quarterback, who's the hardest to get after in the league.

2177
01:38:06,360 --> 01:38:06,920
Speaker 1: And they did.

2178
01:38:06,960 --> 01:38:09,600
Speaker 3: They hit him six times to a got rid of

2179
01:38:09,600 --> 01:38:12,160
Speaker 3: the ball quickly, plenty, but they got after him. And

2180
01:38:12,200 --> 01:38:14,719
Speaker 3: then Jalen Hurts, who's been a different player this year,

2181
01:38:14,960 --> 01:38:16,920
Speaker 3: but I think this game was emblematica that like, his

2182
01:38:17,080 --> 01:38:20,800
Speaker 3: highs are higher and he has way more lows. He

2183
01:38:20,880 --> 01:38:23,160
Speaker 3: already has more turnovers this year than he had all

2184
01:38:23,200 --> 01:38:27,200
Speaker 3: of last year. Whoa, but the highs are pretty damn special.

2185
01:38:27,600 --> 01:38:30,240
Speaker 3: And that that forty two yarder to A. J. Brown

2186
01:38:30,400 --> 01:38:34,439
Speaker 3: was great? The throw on the run? What was it

2187
01:38:34,479 --> 01:38:36,280
Speaker 3: on the third down? Was that also to Brown in

2188
01:38:36,320 --> 01:38:38,840
Speaker 3: the first half fort to DeVonta Smith, Like he made

2189
01:38:38,880 --> 01:38:41,840
Speaker 3: some really special plays in this game, and that was

2190
01:38:41,920 --> 01:38:43,080
Speaker 3: more than enough to get the win.

2191
01:38:43,600 --> 01:38:46,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is a crazy stat about her. It's the

2192
01:38:46,920 --> 01:38:50,599
Speaker 1: ten turnovers versus eight. Yep, it's week seven. Yeah, so yeah.

2193
01:38:51,080 --> 01:38:53,320
Speaker 2: You Another way to put it is he's been more

2194
01:38:53,360 --> 01:38:59,040
Speaker 2: inconsistent than a year ago, and tonight though he after

2195
01:38:59,120 --> 01:39:02,280
Speaker 2: that picks when the games looked like it could potentially

2196
01:39:02,280 --> 01:39:05,920
Speaker 2: slip away, the offense kind of put it together and

2197
01:39:06,000 --> 01:39:09,080
Speaker 2: took care of business. And I think this was a

2198
01:39:09,160 --> 01:39:13,559
Speaker 2: performance that on two sides, the Eagles where we're trying

2199
01:39:13,600 --> 01:39:17,320
Speaker 2: to figure out, you know, who they are and whether

2200
01:39:17,400 --> 01:39:20,479
Speaker 2: these issues on offense are serious issues or just a

2201
01:39:20,520 --> 01:39:23,280
Speaker 2: team that's still relatively early in the season and figuring

2202
01:39:23,320 --> 01:39:25,879
Speaker 2: themselves out with a new offensive coordinator.

2203
01:39:25,880 --> 01:39:26,839
Speaker 1: On the Dolphins side.

2204
01:39:26,640 --> 01:39:29,719
Speaker 2: I think it's a very real it's a very fair

2205
01:39:29,800 --> 01:39:33,559
Speaker 2: thing to ask Greg that you know, there's no doubting

2206
01:39:33,640 --> 01:39:36,080
Speaker 2: that this is a special offense when things are humming.

2207
01:39:36,479 --> 01:39:39,920
Speaker 2: But once again, now it was to the Bills in

2208
01:39:40,160 --> 01:39:43,759
Speaker 2: Week four and now the Eagles here in Week seven

2209
01:39:43,880 --> 01:39:46,600
Speaker 2: when it was time to really ball out against a

2210
01:39:46,600 --> 01:39:50,160
Speaker 2: big time team, they don't really show up twenty points

2211
01:39:50,200 --> 01:39:53,720
Speaker 2: against the Bills, seventeen against the Eagles, and questions will

2212
01:39:53,760 --> 01:39:57,280
Speaker 2: persist about whether they are able to be the team

2213
01:39:57,320 --> 01:39:59,479
Speaker 2: they need to be when it matters against the opponents

2214
01:39:59,479 --> 01:40:01,639
Speaker 2: when they stepp But they got They got the Chiefs

2215
01:40:01,960 --> 01:40:02,840
Speaker 2: in two weeks, by.

2216
01:40:02,720 --> 01:40:04,000
Speaker 1: The way, in Germany.

2217
01:40:04,479 --> 01:40:07,160
Speaker 3: That's a big time game for NFL network getting one

2218
01:40:07,160 --> 01:40:08,720
Speaker 3: of the games of the year out.

2219
01:40:08,840 --> 01:40:11,040
Speaker 1: Then dust, it's not too late, schedule makers, look a flight.

2220
01:40:11,720 --> 01:40:14,200
Speaker 3: Look the Dolphins got twelve first downs in this game. Now,

2221
01:40:14,640 --> 01:40:16,559
Speaker 3: now they they are a team that gets a lot

2222
01:40:16,560 --> 01:40:20,360
Speaker 3: of chunk plays, and but tonight Sean Desaia, as they mentioned,

2223
01:40:20,400 --> 01:40:22,280
Speaker 3: did a good job even though they gave up a

2224
01:40:22,280 --> 01:40:25,120
Speaker 3: lot of throws over the middle. Tyreek Hill has along

2225
01:40:25,160 --> 01:40:28,080
Speaker 3: a twenty seven Cedric Wilson as a twenty nine waddle

2226
01:40:28,160 --> 01:40:31,240
Speaker 3: doesn't get anything over sixteen. They prevented the big plays.

2227
01:40:31,680 --> 01:40:34,519
Speaker 3: The Dolphins are unlikely to be one of the great

2228
01:40:34,600 --> 01:40:38,960
Speaker 3: offenses of all time. That's a ridiculous bar to go after.

2229
01:40:39,400 --> 01:40:42,280
Speaker 3: Can they be the best offense in the NFL this year?

2230
01:40:42,400 --> 01:40:44,600
Speaker 3: Like they can, But you need to be better than

2231
01:40:44,680 --> 01:40:47,320
Speaker 3: twelve first downs two hundred and forty four yards on

2232
01:40:47,360 --> 01:40:50,280
Speaker 3: a day where I know your Dolphins fans are gonna

2233
01:40:50,600 --> 01:40:54,240
Speaker 3: point out like, look, we're missing toront Armstead. News flash,

2234
01:40:54,360 --> 01:40:57,240
Speaker 3: You're always missing Toront Armstead. Like he's he's out for

2235
01:40:57,320 --> 01:40:59,680
Speaker 3: half the season. Every almost every season.

2236
01:40:59,400 --> 01:41:01,320
Speaker 1: Every team is missing key guys every week.

2237
01:41:01,880 --> 01:41:04,280
Speaker 3: And that's part of Armstead and then said win gets

2238
01:41:04,360 --> 01:41:06,400
Speaker 3: hurt and so can you work around it. I thought

2239
01:41:06,400 --> 01:41:09,760
Speaker 3: Tua made some really special throws in this play. I

2240
01:41:09,760 --> 01:41:13,080
Speaker 3: mean they could have been smoked in this game. It

2241
01:41:13,120 --> 01:41:15,800
Speaker 3: actually in a different scenario, like it could have not

2242
01:41:15,840 --> 01:41:17,600
Speaker 3: been closer. He had a great third and nine in

2243
01:41:17,640 --> 01:41:21,080
Speaker 3: the first quarter which saved them near the goal line.

2244
01:41:21,400 --> 01:41:23,600
Speaker 3: He also had a third and eighteen late in the

2245
01:41:23,640 --> 01:41:26,960
Speaker 3: second quarter which was just an absolute dime and they

2246
01:41:27,000 --> 01:41:29,240
Speaker 3: end up getting a touchdown right before the half in

2247
01:41:29,320 --> 01:41:31,519
Speaker 3: part because of that third eighteen, but he was not

2248
01:41:31,560 --> 01:41:33,559
Speaker 3: convincing otherwise. And to me, the biggest play of the

2249
01:41:33,680 --> 01:41:37,560
Speaker 3: entire game was he leaves one up for grabs that

2250
01:41:37,640 --> 01:41:41,240
Speaker 3: Darius slay picks off, just left it in the air

2251
01:41:41,360 --> 01:41:44,000
Speaker 3: too long. At first it looks like a touchdown. Then

2252
01:41:44,040 --> 01:41:45,920
Speaker 3: it very well could have been a pass interferre and

2253
01:41:45,960 --> 01:41:46,800
Speaker 3: so they got a little bit.

2254
01:41:46,760 --> 01:41:49,320
Speaker 1: Of a linebacker just railroads the receiver.

2255
01:41:49,200 --> 01:41:51,519
Speaker 3: And then slayh intercepts it and it was almost like

2256
01:41:51,600 --> 01:41:55,240
Speaker 3: the official got distracted by the interception. But either way,

2257
01:41:55,640 --> 01:41:59,120
Speaker 3: just the timing was just a little bit off, and

2258
01:41:59,240 --> 01:42:01,960
Speaker 3: this whole thing of like to a MVP, it's like,

2259
01:42:02,240 --> 01:42:05,000
Speaker 3: you gotta play better in the bigger games, and he

2260
01:42:05,040 --> 01:42:07,719
Speaker 3: didn't play bad in this game, but they weren't enough.

2261
01:42:07,800 --> 01:42:10,160
Speaker 3: Like the best part of this game were the two

2262
01:42:10,240 --> 01:42:13,599
Speaker 3: Philly Lions. Like they've been the last two seasons, they

2263
01:42:13,640 --> 01:42:16,040
Speaker 3: are the dominant force in the NFC.

2264
01:42:16,439 --> 01:42:22,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a thirty eight who drops a gorgeous bucket

2265
01:42:22,120 --> 01:42:27,320
Speaker 2: pass TD to Tyreek Hill who runs through bracketed coverage

2266
01:42:27,560 --> 01:42:30,479
Speaker 2: and again it just showed with thirty nine seconds to

2267
01:42:30,479 --> 01:42:30,960
Speaker 2: play in the half.

2268
01:42:31,000 --> 01:42:33,240
Speaker 1: That just shows you how different he is.

2269
01:42:33,280 --> 01:42:36,800
Speaker 2: But Tyreek Hill also had a huge drop that would

2270
01:42:36,800 --> 01:42:40,479
Speaker 2: have been a back pocket touchdown that they lose that

2271
01:42:40,600 --> 01:42:42,720
Speaker 2: and then a blown up call by the officials on

2272
01:42:42,760 --> 01:42:46,400
Speaker 2: the next play, a no call on a fourth down

2273
01:42:46,439 --> 01:42:47,280
Speaker 2: pass turns.

2274
01:42:47,000 --> 01:42:48,839
Speaker 1: The ball over. Now they get the picks.

2275
01:42:48,840 --> 01:42:51,799
Speaker 2: Football gods step in and go, oh oh, pump the brakes.

2276
01:42:51,800 --> 01:42:54,760
Speaker 2: There pick six right after that, so things kind of

2277
01:42:54,760 --> 01:42:57,600
Speaker 2: get evened out there. But in general, yeah, that was

2278
01:42:57,680 --> 01:42:59,960
Speaker 2: kind of to me when I was thinking about the Dolphins.

2279
01:43:00,400 --> 01:43:02,479
Speaker 2: They just have to take their game to a higher

2280
01:43:02,560 --> 01:43:05,679
Speaker 2: level because they're built right now from a if you're

2281
01:43:05,760 --> 01:43:08,400
Speaker 2: someone who's doubting them, like you are gonna run up

2282
01:43:08,720 --> 01:43:09,599
Speaker 2: You're just gonna run.

2283
01:43:09,479 --> 01:43:10,839
Speaker 1: Up the score against these bad teams.

2284
01:43:10,840 --> 01:43:13,640
Speaker 2: But we're now seeing maybe a trend here of them

2285
01:43:13,640 --> 01:43:15,599
Speaker 2: getting punched in the mouth against bigger opponents.

2286
01:43:15,640 --> 01:43:20,080
Speaker 1: So you know, yes, the AFC was it though? The

2287
01:43:20,120 --> 01:43:23,760
Speaker 1: AFC East is it a little bit interesting? Oh, you

2288
01:43:23,760 --> 01:43:26,920
Speaker 1: were enjoying this one. You did not want your enough?

2289
01:43:27,080 --> 01:43:28,960
Speaker 3: What so the Jets so we got they got a

2290
01:43:29,000 --> 01:43:30,599
Speaker 3: break here by the from the Patriots.

2291
01:43:30,640 --> 01:43:32,920
Speaker 1: Your your buddies, The Patriots helped them out today.

2292
01:43:32,720 --> 01:43:35,960
Speaker 2: My buddies, the Patriots. Yes, they they knock off the Bills.

2293
01:43:35,960 --> 01:43:38,800
Speaker 2: So the Bills are now four and three. Dolphins fall,

2294
01:43:38,880 --> 01:43:40,479
Speaker 2: so they're five and two, and the Jets on by

2295
01:43:41,320 --> 01:43:43,000
Speaker 2: pick up a half game out both teams at three

2296
01:43:43,040 --> 01:43:46,160
Speaker 2: and three. Very interesting. I still, I mean, who is

2297
01:43:46,200 --> 01:43:49,479
Speaker 2: the favorite in this division? I guess I don't know.

2298
01:43:49,520 --> 01:43:53,200
Speaker 2: I guess Miami. I'm not shaken that much by This

2299
01:43:53,240 --> 01:43:54,880
Speaker 2: is a tough spot to go on the road on

2300
01:43:54,960 --> 01:43:58,640
Speaker 2: Sunday night. After the loss that the Eagles had, it

2301
01:43:58,720 --> 01:44:00,599
Speaker 2: felt like it was kind of stacked against them.

2302
01:44:00,640 --> 01:44:03,320
Speaker 1: With Armstead out, they could not get the running game going.

2303
01:44:03,360 --> 01:44:03,639
Speaker 1: At all.

2304
01:44:03,640 --> 01:44:06,439
Speaker 2: They had negative eight rushing yards the Dolphins in the

2305
01:44:06,479 --> 01:44:09,360
Speaker 2: first quarter, which is their worst since twenty thirteen. So

2306
01:44:09,360 --> 01:44:11,200
Speaker 2: in a lot of ways, it was kind of up

2307
01:44:11,400 --> 01:44:15,200
Speaker 2: uphill climb for them. A tough game. But I'm not

2308
01:44:15,439 --> 01:44:17,160
Speaker 2: I'm not hitting the panic button. Put it that way.

2309
01:44:17,240 --> 01:44:19,519
Speaker 3: I think the Bills are still the favorites, but they're

2310
01:44:19,520 --> 01:44:22,080
Speaker 3: one and two in the division with losses to the

2311
01:44:22,200 --> 01:44:25,920
Speaker 3: Jets and the Patriots, so it is a straight It

2312
01:44:26,000 --> 01:44:29,360
Speaker 3: is a strange season. The Dolphins have to feel good

2313
01:44:29,439 --> 01:44:32,040
Speaker 3: that they have a game, a couple games in the

2314
01:44:32,080 --> 01:44:34,120
Speaker 3: lost call or a game in the lost callum in hand.

2315
01:44:34,360 --> 01:44:37,320
Speaker 3: But they got smoked by the Bills. And an interesting

2316
01:44:37,360 --> 01:44:41,200
Speaker 3: thing happened today, just standings in general, including the Patriots.

2317
01:44:41,400 --> 01:44:44,559
Speaker 3: All these one win teams won dan The Patriots got

2318
01:44:44,560 --> 01:44:47,840
Speaker 3: their second win, the Broncos got their second win, the

2319
01:44:47,960 --> 01:44:52,000
Speaker 3: Giants got their second win, the Bears got their second win.

2320
01:44:52,880 --> 01:44:55,240
Speaker 3: So as you know, if you're the Bears, your hat,

2321
01:44:55,280 --> 01:44:57,639
Speaker 3: your loving life that you own that Panthers draft pick.

2322
01:44:57,960 --> 01:45:00,960
Speaker 3: That's a nice solid number one the Cardinals. But just

2323
01:45:01,000 --> 01:45:03,240
Speaker 3: big picture, like a lot of these teams at the

2324
01:45:03,240 --> 01:45:03,920
Speaker 3: bottom got win.

2325
01:45:04,120 --> 01:45:09,479
Speaker 2: Parody like a python around pray even tighter. It's grip

2326
01:45:09,520 --> 01:45:13,479
Speaker 2: on the NFL. Two last things for me, once again,

2327
01:45:13,680 --> 01:45:17,280
Speaker 2: the third and short, fourth and short set up for

2328
01:45:17,320 --> 01:45:20,519
Speaker 2: the Eagles is beyond flawless. I will say one thing

2329
01:45:21,000 --> 01:45:26,799
Speaker 2: and you listen to me. Eagles fans, Philadelphia people, sports

2330
01:45:26,840 --> 01:45:29,000
Speaker 2: fans who have a very it's very nice time to

2331
01:45:29,040 --> 01:45:31,880
Speaker 2: be alive in Philadelphia. Is a sports fan with the

2332
01:45:31,880 --> 01:45:35,920
Speaker 2: Phillies and the Eagles. You don't get it. No, it's

2333
01:45:35,960 --> 01:45:38,760
Speaker 2: not brother Lee Shove. You don't get it. I know

2334
01:45:38,800 --> 01:45:41,160
Speaker 2: you want it to be brother lyshev, but it's the

2335
01:45:41,240 --> 01:45:43,760
Speaker 2: toush push and you gotta live with that. That's the

2336
01:45:43,840 --> 01:45:45,639
Speaker 2: name that history will remember it by.

2337
01:45:46,200 --> 01:45:48,360
Speaker 1: You have you noticed this. They're trying to make it

2338
01:45:48,400 --> 01:45:48,680
Speaker 1: a thing.

2339
01:45:49,080 --> 01:45:51,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, trying to change the name because they don't think

2340
01:45:51,479 --> 01:45:54,080
Speaker 2: that's a cool name, like brother Lee show Off.

2341
01:45:54,080 --> 01:45:55,519
Speaker 1: That's a cool name. You don't get it.

2342
01:45:55,680 --> 01:45:58,240
Speaker 3: I'd like that the NBC tried to split the difference

2343
01:45:58,280 --> 01:46:00,280
Speaker 3: in on the graphic tonight. They say they were four

2344
01:46:00,360 --> 01:46:02,800
Speaker 3: for four on the QB push play. It was like

2345
01:46:03,479 --> 01:46:06,519
Speaker 3: nobody wins there, that's but they were four for four.

2346
01:46:06,640 --> 01:46:09,200
Speaker 3: It's remarkable how many situations they are in like that.

2347
01:46:09,560 --> 01:46:12,360
Speaker 3: And you know they go for it. They had to

2348
01:46:12,360 --> 01:46:14,960
Speaker 3: take a time out because Sirianni changed his mind. Thought

2349
01:46:15,000 --> 01:46:17,800
Speaker 3: better if it was gonna punt it away in a

2350
01:46:17,840 --> 01:46:18,760
Speaker 3: one score game.

2351
01:46:19,080 --> 01:46:20,160
Speaker 1: Right, that was bizarre.

2352
01:46:19,960 --> 01:46:22,200
Speaker 3: Midway through the fourth quarter. Well, it's not that bizarre

2353
01:46:22,320 --> 01:46:24,559
Speaker 3: because they're on their own twenty five.

2354
01:46:24,640 --> 01:46:26,559
Speaker 1: It's not that much earlier.

2355
01:46:26,640 --> 01:46:29,400
Speaker 2: But the thinking going on in the NFL anymore, it's

2356
01:46:29,400 --> 01:46:32,920
Speaker 2: all data driven, right, But no one eighty two verse

2357
01:46:32,920 --> 01:46:35,640
Speaker 2: seventy nine percent win probability to go for it.

2358
01:46:35,720 --> 01:46:36,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I go for it.

2359
01:46:36,760 --> 01:46:39,240
Speaker 3: I disagree because I think thirty one other teams would

2360
01:46:39,240 --> 01:46:41,719
Speaker 3: have punted that, or maybe like twenty nine other teams.

2361
01:46:42,000 --> 01:46:44,840
Speaker 3: But because they have this superhuman play that could never

2362
01:46:44,920 --> 01:46:47,559
Speaker 3: be stopped. Uh, they do it and no one else

2363
01:46:47,600 --> 01:46:50,920
Speaker 3: can do it. Push push, It is the tush push.

2364
01:46:50,960 --> 01:46:52,479
Speaker 3: And then they go on these long drives. It's been

2365
01:46:52,479 --> 01:46:55,160
Speaker 3: an inconsistent offense, but man, they go on these long drives.

2366
01:46:55,200 --> 01:46:56,680
Speaker 1: I got another thing. You had a second thing.

2367
01:46:56,760 --> 01:46:59,640
Speaker 2: Well my second thing, real quick, is that No, you

2368
01:46:59,680 --> 01:47:01,000
Speaker 2: do your thing, and then I'll do one more.

2369
01:47:01,040 --> 01:47:03,400
Speaker 3: I just want Eric to look remind me who won

2370
01:47:03,439 --> 01:47:04,519
Speaker 3: the lockoff tonight?

2371
01:47:05,080 --> 01:47:11,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, if the bad form by Sessler, like he said,

2372
01:47:11,040 --> 01:47:12,559
Speaker 2: he had he had something to take care.

2373
01:47:12,360 --> 01:47:13,040
Speaker 1: Of this morning.

2374
01:47:13,040 --> 01:47:15,200
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, no problem, because it's a long

2375
01:47:15,240 --> 01:47:17,640
Speaker 2: season and we got different things in our lives. But

2376
01:47:17,720 --> 01:47:21,800
Speaker 2: I had forgot that there was a lockoff. You can't

2377
01:47:21,840 --> 01:47:25,559
Speaker 2: abandon your post. You can't abandon your post on a lockoff.

2378
01:47:26,120 --> 01:47:28,519
Speaker 3: No, And I mean he's a Bannon post in these

2379
01:47:28,560 --> 01:47:31,360
Speaker 3: lock standings. I think he's he's three back. He needed this?

2380
01:47:31,680 --> 01:47:33,600
Speaker 1: Did he do it? Was there more to it?

2381
01:47:33,720 --> 01:47:37,000
Speaker 2: Remember the Kaiser SoSE Sessler that we discovered in the

2382
01:47:37,080 --> 01:47:40,280
Speaker 2: draft few weeks back. Did he get bad vibes about

2383
01:47:40,280 --> 01:47:41,320
Speaker 2: how this game would turn out?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Does that explain your opinion? He is not thrilled.

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01:47:46,160 --> 01:47:48,760
Speaker 3: I know from hearing from him even before this game

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01:47:48,800 --> 01:47:51,439
Speaker 3: started that he jumped out of his Browns lock never

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01:47:51,520 --> 01:47:53,160
Speaker 3: jump out of there. But maybe it was bald o't LII.

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Speaker 3: You know he's not here for the lockoff and baldon't

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Speaker 3: line I got.

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Speaker 1: I have to say.

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Speaker 2: I disgusts me to say it, but I feel like

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01:48:01,000 --> 01:48:02,680
Speaker 2: you're in a little bit of a groove in the

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01:48:02,680 --> 01:48:06,559
Speaker 2: locks right now, and I don't feel overly confident. In fact,

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Speaker 2: I'm almost ready to kind of call oh, this is

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01:48:09,000 --> 01:48:11,080
Speaker 2: because there's no way at this point that we're going

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01:48:11,120 --> 01:48:12,240
Speaker 2: to catch you, because you're.

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Speaker 3: Just this is like, oh, break out the locks playbook

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01:48:14,800 --> 01:48:17,080
Speaker 3: from Dan. It's like, once he falls two back, he

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01:48:17,120 --> 01:48:19,840
Speaker 3: breaks out this old canard, give me a break last one.

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Speaker 2: And maybe this is me showing my age, But is

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01:48:23,439 --> 01:48:26,519
Speaker 2: it just me or all these eighties throwback uniforms better

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01:48:26,560 --> 01:48:29,280
Speaker 2: than all the current ones, like every team. I saw

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01:48:29,320 --> 01:48:31,519
Speaker 2: it with the Giants today, I see it with the Jets,

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Speaker 2: I see with the Eagles tonight.

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01:48:33,800 --> 01:48:35,599
Speaker 1: They're just they're pretty, they're.

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Speaker 3: Nice, wells are particularly beautiful. They're among my favorite uniforms

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Speaker 3: in sports history.

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01:48:42,560 --> 01:48:47,479
Speaker 2: Tell me one rand that's been that's popped up recently

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01:48:47,680 --> 01:48:49,880
Speaker 2: that you're like, oh, that's that's not an upgrade over

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Speaker 2: what they usually wear.

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01:48:50,840 --> 01:48:53,960
Speaker 1: The Patriots, pat Patriot that's better. Well those?

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01:48:54,080 --> 01:48:56,880
Speaker 3: How about those bumblebee uniforms by the Steelers. But that

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01:48:57,000 --> 01:48:58,840
Speaker 3: was like throwing it back to like the four. Now,

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01:48:58,840 --> 01:49:02,000
Speaker 3: that's that was ridiculous. That's not what I'm talking about.

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Speaker 3: I'm talking Yeah, I'm talking about.

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Speaker 1: Those in the eighties.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, whatever, it's you know, everything's cyclical. All right, that's good,

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Speaker 2: Thank you everybody for checking us out. We have a

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Speaker 2: big week coming up on around the NFL because the

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Speaker 2: trade deadlines around the corner. So we're gonna have a

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Speaker 2: special trade deadline episode with Mike Garaffollo, who says plugged

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Speaker 2: in as anybody in the league, and some other fun

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01:49:25,720 --> 01:49:29,240
Speaker 2: coming up as well as more NFL plus goodness. We

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Speaker 2: have our Game of the Week rewatch, which is going

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Speaker 2: to be Brown's Cults.

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Speaker 1: That's gonna be a while though Cold.

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Speaker 2: Sessler will be there for that. I bet uh so

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Speaker 2: be there Monday. A lot of content and our Monday

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Speaker 2: Night recap and news. Wow, we're busy. Heed the Call.