1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: Taking a Walk. God gives us all gifts. You got, guests, 2 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 1: why we're talking right now. You got gifts. That's why 3 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:12,640 Speaker 1: we're talking right now. Okay more than one. Okay. Now. 4 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: When you get tuned in to the gift and you 5 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 1: work within, things happen for you. 6 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:21,919 Speaker 2: Welcome to the Taking a Walk Podcast, the show where 7 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:26,240 Speaker 2: Buzz Night speaks with musicians and insiders about their memories, 8 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 2: their projects, and their love of music. On this episode, 9 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 2: a returning guest William Mickey Stevenson is the man behind Motown. 10 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 3: Working as the label's A and R. 11 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 2: Man, signing the iconic artists of Motown, from Smokey to 12 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 2: Stevie and many more. Here's Buzz Night with Mickey on 13 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 2: Taking a Walk. 14 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 4: And I have the one and only Mickey Stevenson, a 15 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 4: returning guest to the Takeout a Walk Podcast. 16 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 1: Hello, my friend, Hey, my brother, how you doing? How 17 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 1: you doing? You gotta have a great smile on your face, 18 00:00:58,520 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 1: so you gotta be doing. 19 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 4: Our talking to you. If I'm talking to you, I'm 20 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 4: doing all right. You put a smile on my face 21 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 4: all the time. 22 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:10,559 Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you, yes, well. 23 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:12,400 Speaker 3: Thanks for being on. We have a lot to catch 24 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 3: up with. 25 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 4: First, of all, let's catch up about a sad note, 26 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 4: the loss of our dear friend, your dear friend of years, 27 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:26,039 Speaker 4: Duke Fakir, the. 28 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:27,400 Speaker 3: Last remaining member of the Four Tops. 29 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 4: He was on this podcast as well, and such a sweetheart, 30 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 4: and I wanted to get your reflections on his passing 31 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 4: and what he meant to the music world and what 32 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 4: he meant to you personally. 33 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 1: Well, he's an incredible story with the Four Tops. Can 34 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:47,319 Speaker 1: I tell you his story? When I was on furlough 35 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 1: and familiar me have my furlough coming on. We had 36 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 1: we got a theatre in Detroit called the Warfield Theater, 37 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 1: which is like the Apollo in New York. So I'm 38 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 1: on furloan and I'm going to to the to the 39 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 1: theater to see the show. Billy x Stein was performing 40 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 1: and they had the contest. These four guys come on 41 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 1: in the contests and they're singing, do take da Train? 42 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 1: They got all these tunes tied up in one song. 43 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 1: I said, Man, these guys are great. I said, oh, 44 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 1: they're gonna be stars one day. And I remember the 45 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 1: song and everything. And so when the show was over 46 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 1: and the colonel was calling me back from the army 47 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:32,359 Speaker 1: because they wanted me to re enlist. I was on 48 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: my coming out time. They wanted me to re enlist 49 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: because they wanted to send me the Officers Training school. 50 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:41,640 Speaker 1: But when I was walking out of the theater, I said, 51 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:45,399 Speaker 1: I'm going in the show business. That's that was my thing. 52 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 1: And I said because that day that that this group 53 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:52,640 Speaker 1: called the Four Aims at the time, they fired me up. 54 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 1: So I called back to the service and told them 55 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:58,679 Speaker 1: I'm out forget it. Blah blah blah, going to the 56 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: business and entertainment's been My mother, of course was a 57 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:03,920 Speaker 1: singer and writer, so I had it in my my 58 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: system anyway, But that that was such an inspiring moment 59 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 1: at that time. So years later, now now I'm I'm 60 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 1: the n R man from Otown and uh, you know, 61 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:21,239 Speaker 1: we're doing things. And Barry said to me, we got 62 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:23,839 Speaker 1: a man. I want a jazz label. So I said 63 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 1: to him, a jazz label. Well, come on, less than 64 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 1: fifteen percent of the market. He said, whose company is this? 65 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 1: I said, your company? He said, Then you said you 66 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 1: can do anything, get me a jazz label. Okay, BG, okay, 67 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 1: I'll go into New York and I'm dealing with jazz 68 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 1: musicians trying to find out how because we need to 69 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 1: they have a label. You got to have an artist 70 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 1: and an artist. You got to, you know, build a 71 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 1: name for like any other artists. So I'm looking at 72 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 1: different jazz musicians. If this is a honor player, he's known, 73 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 1: this person is known, and I'm saying, but they all 74 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 1: played with each other. Everybody had an album. They go 75 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 1: play on this album this was coming out, then they 76 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 1: go play on that. So there's nope. To build a 77 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 1: label and an artist, you got to have something to 78 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 1: sign to you as one unit with me. Yep. So 79 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 1: I called Barry. I said, I'm having trump. I said 80 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 1: this is not working. He said, well, what you're gonna do? 81 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:17,359 Speaker 1: I said, I'm gonna go to your cargo. I'm gonna 82 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:20,919 Speaker 1: get me a female singer like Nancy Wilson. Then I 83 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: put the jazz musicians around her. So now we got 84 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 1: an artist and they went at the same time. He said, 85 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 1: great idea. When you're going, I said, well, I'm gonna 86 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 1: go next week. He said no, you ain't. You better 87 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 1: go right away. I said, well, I'm in New York. 88 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 1: He said, that's your problem, this is your deal. I said, okay, 89 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:37,280 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go tomorrow. I go tomorrow. I'm flying there 90 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 1: now hill Wad gets sweet. So I'm giving myself a break. 91 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:44,159 Speaker 1: I'm leaving New York, going to the I'm down and 92 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:48,279 Speaker 1: what's that place in New York where you know, little 93 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:50,919 Speaker 1: village down in New York. But whatever, the place is 94 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 1: Greenwich Village. So they got to I'm going down there 95 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 1: to give himself a break before I leave the next day, 96 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 1: and Billy Eckstein is playing in up and I'm walking 97 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 1: by and I said, oh, my man, b I go 98 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 1: and see him. I hear this group singing in the 99 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 1: club and they made me sing. I said, wow, these 100 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 1: guys sound great. But the sign said four Tops. I 101 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 1: don't think this is the same group, right, But I said, man, 102 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:20,840 Speaker 1: these guys are really good. So I go in c B. 103 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 1: I sit down and then they all singing and that's 104 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 1: the same group. I said wow. So I told the owner, 105 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: I said, when these guys get off the stage, have 106 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 1: him come over to my table. He said, who you are, 107 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 1: Mickey Stevenson, move down, blah blah blah blah blah. So they, 108 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: sure enough, they come up from having their break. You know, 109 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 1: the four B comes on. So they come down and say. 110 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:42,040 Speaker 1: I said, man, I saw you guys in Detroit when 111 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 1: you're running the contest and blah blah, name the date 112 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 1: and everything, and I said the song, I said, and 113 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 1: I'm in a position to make you guys stars. Now. 114 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:57,799 Speaker 1: They looked at me like I'm crazy, right, because they said, 115 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 1: and so Duke, who was the sleep speaker for the 116 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 1: for the group, right, he said, uh uh, well, what's 117 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 1: your name again? I said, Micky Stevens and blah blah 118 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 1: blah Detroit tooth and said they said yeah. He said, 119 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:11,039 Speaker 1: what song were you singing? So I started singing the 120 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 1: song that they were in the contest with at the 121 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:17,359 Speaker 1: table doc u. If you take the I'm doing the 122 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 1: whole thing. He said, do you remember that song? I said, yeah. Man, 123 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 1: I said, now here's what you do when you leave here. Yeah, 124 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 1: I know you got to New York. You come, I 125 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:27,599 Speaker 1: mean to the pollow for a moment. Come to Detroit, 126 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 1: come to my office. I'll sign you. I'll make your stars. 127 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 1: So they said, wow, you can do that. And then 128 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:36,559 Speaker 1: so by this time, the owner of the place tapping 129 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 1: them on the show. Look, Bill Bixa is about to 130 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 1: go on. Come on, yo, y'all get up, Get up. 131 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 1: So I'm leaving the room. I'm walking out the door, 132 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 1: and I looked back and I said, do do do 133 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:49,040 Speaker 1: doc D. So they start singing, do do do do? 134 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 1: Leave the face. To cut a long story short, about 135 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 1: maybe about four or five weeks later, when they're doing 136 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:59,719 Speaker 1: their little tour, they come back and they're in the Apollo, 137 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 1: and I found out they were there. I called the 138 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 1: Apollo and said, uh, I left that uh that group uh. 139 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 1: I called him the Ames Brothers. I said uh. And 140 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 1: he said as brothers said, your four guys, they're at 141 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 1: four tops. I said, okay, let them know that I'm 142 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 1: calling and I'll have somebody uh picked them up at 143 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 1: the airport when they get to Detroit like that. So 144 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 1: sure enough they came in. They came to me, came 145 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 1: to my office, sat down. Duke said to me, okay, man, 146 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 1: you got us all fired up here. Now what about 147 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 1: this deal you you promised us. I said, I'm gonna 148 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 1: make your stars. I said, now hold it. I reached in. 149 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 1: I kept contracts in my drawer. I reached in and 150 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 1: pulled up four contracts. I said, okay, y'all take them, 151 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 1: read them, come back I said, before you leave, I 152 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 1: ain't changing shit. Oh I'm sorry, I'm sorry, Okay, I'm 153 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 1: not changing anything on the contract you signed like it is. 154 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 1: I guarantee I make your stars. So Duke Duke took 155 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 1: the contracts, pointed this thing at me, said, if anything 156 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 1: goes wrong, I'm holding you responsible for it. I said, 157 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 1: no problem. They walk out the door. They say, about 158 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 1: twenty minutes. They come back in. He said, give me 159 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 1: a pen. I said, give me. He said, give the 160 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 1: gifts off and we're gonna sign. I said, you're gonna 161 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 1: sign here. I said, okay, So I gave it a pen. 162 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 1: They signed. I said okay. Now, I said, go next 163 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 1: door to the studio. I'll bet I'll meet you over there. 164 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:34,719 Speaker 1: I'll go right to Barry's office. I said, Barry, I 165 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 1: signed these four guys. He said, Mickey, we got so 166 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 1: many male groups going. I said, none like this one. 167 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 1: He said, I said, hold it before you say anything, 168 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:47,319 Speaker 1: Come on across the striven to the studio with me. 169 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 1: He comes to the studio. I walk in. He's standing 170 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 1: there looking like I'm crazy, and the fourth tops standing 171 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 1: there and hollering those in their room, and the people 172 00:08:58,600 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 1: coming out because they want to know what it mean. 173 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:02,319 Speaker 1: Keep doing now. He didn't come out the room. So 174 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:08,680 Speaker 1: I said, okay, du sang that song you sung in Detroit. 175 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 1: He said, that's what I said. Well then saying anything 176 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 1: you want to sing? LEVI Leone. They sung right there 177 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:21,839 Speaker 1: standing in the studio area right. Barry said wow. Yeah, 178 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 1: I said, I say, now you got a jazz artist 179 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 1: if you want to, and you got a pop artist 180 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 1: you want to. Nobody sounds like these guys. That's how 181 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 1: And we stayed that tight from that day on. That 182 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:37,439 Speaker 1: was my that's my foretops, he said. My book. I'm 183 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 1: gonna make sure you get my book. 184 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:39,959 Speaker 3: Oh I love it. 185 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. 186 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:45,599 Speaker 4: What a what a beautiful memory and uh you know 187 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 4: what what a legacy. Uh you know, Duke and you 188 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 4: and the band created and it lives on, you know, forever, 189 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 4: right yeah? 190 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:56,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, oh man. 191 00:09:57,559 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 3: The music lifts us, lifts us up. 192 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,679 Speaker 1: Yeah. I couldn't go to I couldn't go to the 193 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 1: funeral because, you know, tear me apart. You know what 194 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 1: I'm saying. I like to keep in my head the Duke, 195 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 1: the good times. Yes, yes, yes, yeah, I hear you. 196 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:16,439 Speaker 4: Well, Rest in peace, Duke for sure, right yeah, over forgetting. 197 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:20,839 Speaker 4: So you're a busy man as always. I want to 198 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:25,439 Speaker 4: get an update from you on your musicals. First of all, 199 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 4: tell me the status report, and then we're going to 200 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 4: talk about, as a sort of a byproduct of one 201 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 4: of the scenes from Sing It from the Heart, how 202 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 4: something else has been created. But let's let's get an 203 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:44,679 Speaker 4: update first on the musicals. How's it going and what's 204 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 4: the status. 205 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 1: Well, it's going very good. I've been approached by some 206 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:55,439 Speaker 1: incredible people for it. It's a Zusa revival when a 207 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:59,839 Speaker 1: holy spirit came down in nineteen o six and people 208 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 1: a man were heeled, they got out of wheelchairs, every 209 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 1: race creating color, starts speaking in tongues, blind was seeing, 210 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 1: people were walking. It was just amazing. And it went 211 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 1: on for a while and it was such an amazing 212 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 1: thing till I decided I would deal with that and 213 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 1: turning it into a whole nother ballgame and bring it 214 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:22,719 Speaker 1: back show we See. And of course I got the 215 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 1: show sing It from the Heart, which is incredible. Billie Holiday, 216 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:31,439 Speaker 1: Josephine Baker, Dinah Washington, Maha Jackson, Bessie Smith, Thought the Landridge, 217 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 1: Earthy Kid, and Lena Horne. They all meet as they passed, 218 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 1: you know, and they came meeting each other knowing that 219 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:41,079 Speaker 1: one made the other one make it on and on, 220 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 1: and each one of these ladies had an incredible hard 221 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 1: time developing in those days as a talent, you know, 222 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 1: with the prejudice of garbage going on, but they still 223 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 1: fought and stayed and made it. And so I bring 224 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:58,839 Speaker 1: this into a story call. If it didn't come from 225 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 1: the heart, it ain't gonna happen, then stop you. So 226 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:03,959 Speaker 1: the song is singing from the heart, you know what 227 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 1: I mean. 228 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:10,079 Speaker 5: Yes, And it's a wonderful, wonderful show. So that's progressing 229 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 5: and will be taking shape in Broadway form or eventually. 230 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 1: Yes, just picking the right artists, so in twenty twenty 231 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 1: five that's going to be out nice. But I got 232 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:27,599 Speaker 1: to pick the right artists to beat these characters, you 233 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Yes, yes, And fortunately today because 234 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:36,839 Speaker 1: of some of our talent, the Dinah Rosses and the 235 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 1: Supremes and Aretha's and all that, they kind of took 236 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:46,199 Speaker 1: took some of that pressure from the artist's females and 237 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:48,719 Speaker 1: gave them room to grow and show their greatness their 238 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:51,319 Speaker 1: gifts from God. And it's been going ever since. But 239 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 1: these ladies that I meant, they made it happen. 240 00:12:55,640 --> 00:13:00,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, complete resilience and strong will. And there's this seen 241 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:06,559 Speaker 4: in there where they're lamenting about a woman in the 242 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 4: white House, right. 243 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:11,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you got that, yeah, in a moment in 244 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 1: the show. But Bessie Smith seeing things was happening, and 245 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 1: she's sitting in her chair because she's the beginning involved 246 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 1: in female singer singers, and the girls says, they come, 247 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 1: they'll bring you in the history to her, and she 248 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 1: was saying, Wow. They was talking about who was voting 249 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 1: and who was happening, and Bessie Smith, if if y'all 250 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 1: had a woman in the white House, some of this 251 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 1: stuff would be so from that, by the way, I 252 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 1: wrote that song, put a woman in a white House today, 253 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 1: all right? And out of that, can you imagine that 254 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:43,679 Speaker 1: is happening now? I mean, is that amazing? So I 255 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 1: took the song and redid the song and I had Michelle, 256 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 1: my wife, to sing it. Who's got I mean, she's 257 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:53,080 Speaker 1: on the one. And I had to redid this song. 258 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:57,679 Speaker 1: And I'm telling you it's some things amazing things are 259 00:13:57,679 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 1: happening with that song because it says, put a woman 260 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:03,599 Speaker 1: in the White House. Did you get a copy of that, 261 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 1: Mandy Chance? 262 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 3: Yes, sir, Yes, sir, I sure did. 263 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 1: Isn't that amazing? How that was foe toold back then? 264 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 1: It really is. 265 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 4: And so it's really it's about, obviously, you know, historical moments, 266 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 4: but it's also. 267 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 3: About inspiring people to get out and vote, right. 268 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 1: I mean, oh yes, they gotta vote. They got to vote. 269 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 4: And I saw the video too of Michelle and Michelle 270 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 4: is amazing. But I know that because I've gotten to 271 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 4: know you a bit and know Michelle and her dynamic 272 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 4: approach to life. So you're both inspiring. But so you're 273 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 4: excited about putting this out to. 274 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 1: People the song, Yeah, oh yeah, not for the money, 275 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 1: for the inspiration to get out and vote. That's the 276 00:14:57,760 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 1: only way, the only way we're gonna make this thing happen. 277 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 1: They must vote. They got They can't rely on things 278 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 1: that happen just naturally. So I'm inspired, and I got 279 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 1: Smoky and other people inspired. Please get out and vote. 280 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 1: Get out there and take somebody with you. And uh 281 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 1: uh it's called put Kamala in the White House today. Yeah, yes, 282 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 1: come kamal. My wife keeps telling me, you say right, 283 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 1: Kamala like that said I got on TV like like 284 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 1: the Comma when you're right here is it's karma, Like, yes, dear, 285 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 1: I got it now. But in the White House today, yeah, 286 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 1: she laid it over. Every time I said that, she said, 287 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 1: get it straight. Yeah right, And if the women in 288 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 1: America vote, it's all over. So h it's a wonderful song. 289 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 1: And uh, I'm gonna make sure that. Well you got 290 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 1: a copy. But let let our let our fans, let 291 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 1: let your listeners do that. I would love for them 292 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 1: to go to the internet. I think that's where is 293 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 1: it that they can find it on Facebook? My Facebook, 294 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 1: YouTube and and ah, please go, please go. It's not 295 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 1: about dollars for me, I don't It's nothing about about money. 296 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 1: It's about inspiration. It's a time for the women and 297 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 1: the people to absolutely get behind this woman. Now. I 298 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 1: don't have to tell you what's happening in the world. 299 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 1: You know what you feel it. I feel it, and 300 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 1: if we don't do something about it, it's going to 301 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 1: go in a whole nother direction. So I'm inspired, don't 302 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 1: mean the way out, just telling you, no, how do 303 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 1: you stay. 304 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 4: So inspired creatively? What's what's the secret for you to 305 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 4: be continually. 306 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 1: Uh so, you know, awake and alive and inspired. 307 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 3: What what is your secret that I have two? 308 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 2: It's white? 309 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:13,119 Speaker 1: You heard right? I mean, well, I gotta tell you. 310 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 1: I see she took seventy five eighty pounds off of 311 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 1: me by having me eat correctly, you know the stuff. 312 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 1: You know. I love my barbecue, my lamb chop. You 313 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:26,160 Speaker 1: know what I mean. You know you know what I'm saying. 314 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:29,159 Speaker 1: My bam bam bam. I mean it got to be 315 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 1: just right, you know, chicken baked and you know shripps. 316 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 1: I was into it. She said, uh, uh, you gotta 317 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:40,959 Speaker 1: change all that. I said, what what what she says? Now? 318 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 1: She started coming up with stuff everything made out of 319 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:45,880 Speaker 1: you know, vegetable, this vegetable lad blah blah blah blah blah. 320 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 1: And I thought it was gonna be terrible, but it 321 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 1: tastes pretty good. So I started in that direction, and 322 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 1: sure enough I took away to wait no other problems, 323 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 1: and I started doing some reading and research on my own. 324 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:01,680 Speaker 1: Well that's what we should have been eating in the 325 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:08,159 Speaker 1: first place. But how could you turn down some barbecue 326 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 1: ribs with you know, me with the true one of 327 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 1: the nice big thick steaks. You know what I'm saying. Yes, 328 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 1: I know, I've been smoking. He was telling me all 329 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 1: the time. He said, waimar, you gotta stop that. Now 330 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:27,360 Speaker 1: he's looking great, and I'm saying, man, you man, you're 331 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:30,120 Speaker 1: looking great. He say, well, I eat, but I'm told 332 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 1: you and I why you look at me? See? And 333 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:33,720 Speaker 1: he moved my player to wait to see. You gotta 334 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 1: move that out the way. And you gotta eat east 335 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 1: side of salad from you. You gotta eat some of 336 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:43,159 Speaker 1: the Well, it's easier said than done. You know what 337 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:45,680 Speaker 1: I'm saying. Yes, well you how old are you? 338 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 3: Mickey? 339 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 1: Yeah? 340 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 4: Okay, never mind, no, no, no, I am eighty seven. 341 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 4: You look marvelous. But so it's eating and healthy living. 342 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 3: But once again, there is an X factor here that 343 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:06,680 Speaker 3: I'm still trying to get at on the creative juices 344 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 3: and how you get them to flow. 345 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 1: But they go to gifts. Listen, in the beginning for me, 346 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:15,920 Speaker 1: people say, man, you did this, you did that on 347 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:19,400 Speaker 1: your dossant, Thank you very much, But let me tell 348 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 1: you where it comes from from me. God gives us 349 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:28,479 Speaker 1: all gifts. You got guess why we're talking right now. 350 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 1: You got gifts that's why we're talking right now. Okay 351 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 1: more than one. Okay. Now, when you get tuned in 352 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 1: to the gift and you work with it, things happen 353 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 1: for you. The gifts is so that you can do 354 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:46,440 Speaker 1: what you're doing right now. Get me to talk to 355 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 1: you for your audiences to recognize, Hey, great things can 356 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 1: happen if you deal with the right way and you 357 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 1: think the right way. You're making that happen right now 358 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:56,439 Speaker 1: from your gift with me talking with you. Who's listening 359 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 1: to you? Am I making sense here? Yeah? 360 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:03,119 Speaker 3: You're it's inspiring. It's it's passing on inspiration. 361 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. So that so that that can that keeps you flowing. 362 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:10,200 Speaker 1: You take that alone with doing other things correctly because 363 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 1: God put this body together to flow and move. And 364 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 1: if you're doing it like he wants you to do 365 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 1: like you'll be an inspiration for people. You're gonna be 366 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:20,879 Speaker 1: around a long time because that's what you're supposed to do. 367 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:23,920 Speaker 1: If you stop, it just gonna be an inspiration for yourself. 368 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:26,879 Speaker 1: And you're eating wrong. You out of here? 369 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 4: Pretty simple, right, It's a simple outlook, But it's very true. 370 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 1: You got to take a tack. You gave him some 371 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 1: praise and say thank you, Lord. I pray every day. 372 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:43,400 Speaker 4: So you're you mentioned Smoky so you're obviously in touch 373 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 4: with with Smokey Robinson and and he's doing well. Who 374 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:50,360 Speaker 4: else are you in touch with? And can you give 375 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:53,400 Speaker 4: us a little glimpse on how how they're doing. 376 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 1: I'm doing with Stevie. You know, we talk every time. 377 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 1: I can get him to slow down for a minute, 378 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 1: and it's amazing, amazing, you know, yep, Steve, and I 379 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 1: got Holland excuse me, hollandos Holland. You know he moved 380 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 1: to Texas. For a minute, I said, you he moved 381 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:16,919 Speaker 1: when when it got hot, I said, you up there? 382 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 1: You can't even go out to your house now. You 383 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 1: got to stay in the house and stay in the pool. 384 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:22,399 Speaker 1: You know. He keeps saying you got to come to Texas, 385 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:25,399 Speaker 1: man and spend some time, play some golf. I said, well, man, 386 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:29,120 Speaker 1: it's just burning up up there. Won't you come back 387 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:32,120 Speaker 1: to Los Angeles? So I say we stayed. We stay together. 388 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 1: Hb barnhum, we we're together? And uh, who else is around? 389 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 1: Who else is alive? I guess how about how about 390 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:42,440 Speaker 1: Ms Ross? 391 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:43,479 Speaker 5: Uh? 392 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 1: And certain affairs will will beat you know, we'll we'll 393 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 1: She'll be there, yes and uh and of course Martha Reeves, 394 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:57,720 Speaker 1: Kim Weston, They're still around and all that, you know. 395 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:00,440 Speaker 1: And whenever I'm in Detroit, I make a point to 396 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:08,440 Speaker 1: say hi. I do talking for students, writers, young writers 397 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 1: and producers. I do a class for Motown with them, 398 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 1: that's about twenty of them. We do a zoom thing 399 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:18,919 Speaker 1: and they do these songs for me and I give 400 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 1: them teach on their songs, how to make it better 401 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 1: blah blah blah, and no charge. I just want them 402 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 1: to stay talented. People got to be the people around 403 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:34,879 Speaker 1: them should be inspiring. So I do that no charge, 404 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:37,359 Speaker 1: just so they and I say, okay, you can do 405 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:39,919 Speaker 1: this with that song. Blah blah blah. They come back 406 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:42,400 Speaker 1: the next week and they improved on the song. They say, 407 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 1: thank you very much. I say, well, it's a blessing 408 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 1: that I'm talking to you. It keeps me and it 409 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 1: keeps me feeling as good as well, you know what 410 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 1: I mean. 411 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so that's great. 412 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 4: But I also think there's another key here, and I 413 00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:00,680 Speaker 4: think you're going to agree with this as well, that 414 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:06,399 Speaker 4: for all of us, and that is the ability to 415 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 4: have laughter in our life. Oh yeah, right, yes, I 416 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 4: mean that's so critical more than ever now I think. 417 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, you know, it's stark times. And yet you've 418 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,359 Speaker 4: got to be able to smile and laugh and spread 419 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:25,919 Speaker 4: this to other people because it laughter is contagious. 420 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:28,440 Speaker 1: Oh it's very good for you, very good for you. 421 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 1: And you know, like I say, for my spiritual said, 422 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 1: when you say things like that, it opens that door 423 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:39,160 Speaker 1: that that's what we're here for, to be in that place, 424 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 1: a state of mind and all that, and with each 425 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 1: other too, because we should be with each other laughing 426 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:46,880 Speaker 1: and enjoying life, you know what I mean. And when 427 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 1: something around you that has a moment that's not working 428 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:52,160 Speaker 1: for them, if you can say anything or do something 429 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,200 Speaker 1: about it to make it better. We are supposed to 430 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:56,680 Speaker 1: do that, you know. And new for now you meet 431 00:23:56,760 --> 00:24:00,080 Speaker 1: new friends, and new inspiration comes into the world in 432 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 1: their lives, and it's a wonderful way. It's a wonderful 433 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 1: women in that movie, it's a wonderful life. Yes, okay, 434 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 1: if it's not. If you don't say nothing to nobody, 435 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,120 Speaker 1: nobody says nothing to you, you know what I'm saying. 436 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:13,879 Speaker 1: But when you start speaking and a smile come on 437 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 1: their face and smile on your face. It's on. Even 438 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 1: if it's just for a few a few moments, it's 439 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 1: good because you walk away with something. You know what 440 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 1: I mean. 441 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 3: Yes, that's the key, that's it. Yes, Yes, you nailed it. 442 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 1: You nailed it again. 443 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:33,920 Speaker 4: Mickey Stevens said, Oh, I'm so honored to have you 444 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 4: on again and to connect again and hear what you're 445 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:40,879 Speaker 4: up to and spread the news of your of your 446 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 4: great work of Mickey's It's an honor to talk to you, 447 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 4: sir again on Taking a Walk. 448 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 1: Well, you know, I got to tell you this, you 449 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 1: have one of the greatest smiles I've seen in a 450 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 1: long time. I mean, it's amazing, your whole face light self. 451 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 1: That's a blessing. My brother, that's a blessing. 452 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:00,879 Speaker 3: Oh, you're a blessing. 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