WEBVTT - We're Not Closing.  CA Bar Owner Nick Jamson Talks to Armstrong & Getty

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<v Speaker 1>The Armstrong and Getty show. Hey where did we go

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<v Speaker 1>days when the rains came? Here's another one. There will

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<v Speaker 1>be a national shutdown. That is a rumor as well.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the probability of that is so low. We

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<v Speaker 1>are already making massive changes everybody. These curves, these mathematical

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<v Speaker 1>models that are flying around those are based on no

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<v Speaker 1>changes in our behavior. We have changed our behavior massively.

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<v Speaker 1>It's going to affect the curves. We're gonna have improvement.

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta admit I've not changed my behavior massively, or

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not even sure a little. But that's because I

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<v Speaker 1>don't ever do anything. Um, if you do things, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>you're doing less stuff. And then stuff like McDonald's just

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<v Speaker 1>closed their lunch room. Just drive through Starbucks has that's

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<v Speaker 1>a ton of people just But if that's the only

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<v Speaker 1>thing that happened, I'd be a pretty major change in

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<v Speaker 1>the number of people that bump into each other on

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<v Speaker 1>a given day in a Starbucks and McDonald's. And we

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<v Speaker 1>were talking last week when they were thrown around the

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<v Speaker 1>idea of closing bars and restaurants and stuff like that,

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<v Speaker 1>would you close or not? Last week I was a

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not closing unless you arrest me Monday, I would

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<v Speaker 1>have been Uh, I might, but probably not now I might.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I don't know what it depends on

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<v Speaker 1>my financial situation. Probably Nick Jameson is wrestling with that

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<v Speaker 1>very decision, that very pressure. He's the owner of a

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<v Speaker 1>club in Fair Oaks, California, and is, as of you know, yesterday,

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<v Speaker 1>decided to stay open. Nick joins us. Now, Nick, how

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<v Speaker 1>are you, sir? Very good? Thank you. It's stressful times. Huh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you can say that. How many folks do you have

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<v Speaker 1>working there at your place, the San Juan Club? I

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<v Speaker 1>have I have five, okay five employees and so you're

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<v Speaker 1>a small bar. Then, so did you did you hear

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<v Speaker 1>the same way we all heard? You just kind of

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<v Speaker 1>heard on the news that you're supposed to close yes Saturday.

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<v Speaker 1>Our sister useby Sunday when after the governor's press conference, Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>everybody's lit up that hey, you know you gotta close,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh we were saying, well, the true that we

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<v Speaker 1>have to or is the ordering has And then a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of bar owners in the area here talked and

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<v Speaker 1>found out that he'd asked us to close, and so

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<v Speaker 1>that's what I decided, Well, if he's asking, and he thought,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to ask him to mind his own business. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna ask, how does this politeness say no? Right, So,

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<v Speaker 1>as of now, you're gonna stay open, right? Yes? Are

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<v Speaker 1>you doing anything you're asking people to you know, every

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<v Speaker 1>other bar stool or anything like that. I haven't been

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<v Speaker 1>to your club. I don't know the layout, but I'll

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<v Speaker 1>certainly stop buying my way home. I have a feeling

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<v Speaker 1>I can picture it, having been in about eight thousand

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<v Speaker 1>places like yours in my life. It's a small bar

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<v Speaker 1>that basically neighborhood and uh yeah, we cleaned daily and

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<v Speaker 1>we do uh we people come in and there's not

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<v Speaker 1>a problem. Everybody knows everybody. They asked if I would

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<v Speaker 1>stay open to my employees wanted me to stay open,

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<v Speaker 1>and we had shut down about four years ago due

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<v Speaker 1>to a plumbing problem here that we had to have

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<v Speaker 1>fixed and it was hard on everybody. So as long

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<v Speaker 1>as I'm not ordered to do anything like that, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a little risk area. It's not like Costco, Rayley's and

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<v Speaker 1>all the other places that have sort of the supermarkets

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<v Speaker 1>that are packed. Uh, there's a liquor store opened right here,

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<v Speaker 1>there's cleaners, open and they get more foot traffic than

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<v Speaker 1>I do. Um, have you got any pushback from anybody?

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<v Speaker 1>Has anybody from the county or anything called here, threatened

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<v Speaker 1>he or anything. No, they have not, but that doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>mean they won't know they have not. Most I've had

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<v Speaker 1>about the people that have called me or text me

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<v Speaker 1>or Facebook had basically been on my side. There is

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<v Speaker 1>out there that thinks I'm selfish, self centered idiot. Welcome

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<v Speaker 1>to social media. Yeah, yeah, we get we get that too, Nick.

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<v Speaker 1>He's the kind of bar or if I went in there,

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<v Speaker 1>I could sit there at the at the bar and

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<v Speaker 1>have a drink and stare straight ahead quietly and be

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<v Speaker 1>left alone, because that's the kind of bar. I like, yes, yeah, perfect, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>none of these complaints though, you know, as anybody said,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm an owner of business and I think

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<v Speaker 1>you should close. Yeah, Jack, I was gonna say, once

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<v Speaker 1>you're done with your little inquiry, I've got some complex

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<v Speaker 1>socio economic manners I'd like to deal with. Uh. Nick,

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<v Speaker 1>who's on the line is the owner of a bar

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<v Speaker 1>in Ferroks, California that's being requested to close and said no,

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<v Speaker 1>we're not going to. Uh. What would happen if you

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<v Speaker 1>had to close for two weeks, how would that affect

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<v Speaker 1>your employees in your business? Could you bounce back personally?

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<v Speaker 1>It would take a while to bounce back personally, I'd uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it'd be hard because my landlord doesn't wave

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<v Speaker 1>my rent, the bills are paid, and a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>my employees would be uh staff pretty well, because like

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<v Speaker 1>I said, we went through it before for thirty days,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was it took a while to get everything

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<v Speaker 1>back together. It was really hard on him. Yeah. I

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<v Speaker 1>was talking to a business owner last night, he said,

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<v Speaker 1>And we were walking the streets of a local town

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<v Speaker 1>and and uh and looking at all the businesses where

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<v Speaker 1>they had there were signs on the door saying we're

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<v Speaker 1>shut uh fro to to further notice. And he was

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<v Speaker 1>talking about, as a guy runs a business, how thin

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<v Speaker 1>the margin is of staying afloat. I mean, it's pretty tight.

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<v Speaker 1>And you talk days weeks, you get it to a month,

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<v Speaker 1>you might be out of business. Well for the thirty days,

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<v Speaker 1>it took me about four months to get back to flush. Wow. Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you're if you're talking now, you know, so

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<v Speaker 1>August or July or August, that's it. That's it. Firstly,

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<v Speaker 1>puts us in a position where we can go out

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<v Speaker 1>of business. Is there a jar of pickled eggs anywhere

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<v Speaker 1>in that place? Yeah, yeah, old man, I haven't had

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<v Speaker 1>a drink in many years, but back in the day

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<v Speaker 1>I liked the pickled egg Now and then yeah, oh boy, Nick, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're coming in, I'll make sure it happens. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you, Nicho. Listen, you need to um. You need

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<v Speaker 1>to develop a novelty drink for these difficult times. The

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<v Speaker 1>quarantine ee is popular online. Design your own up. Over

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<v Speaker 1>charge the good folks. We're actually saying, if we have

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<v Speaker 1>the quarantine e of any type of makes you want

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<v Speaker 1>and uh you know, if you spend, will give you

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<v Speaker 1>a throw a toilet paper. We'll get that going. There

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<v Speaker 1>you go, folks. That's the American candy stare right there,

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<v Speaker 1>Nick Jameson. We're out of toilet paper here. Alright, Nick,

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<v Speaker 1>good to talk to you. Good luck, brother, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you very much. You got it. These are not

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<v Speaker 1>simple decisions. If you're a business that okay, it would

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<v Speaker 1>be good for the public health. If I were to

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<v Speaker 1>close down, I also will go out of business, and

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<v Speaker 1>my five waiters, waitresses, bartenders, whatever, who are living paycheck

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<v Speaker 1>to paycheck are begging me to stay open. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not simple, No, it is not. Now Congress is working

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<v Speaker 1>on that near one trillion dollar emergency stimulus plan um.

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<v Speaker 1>But on a practical level, if I am that bartender,

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<v Speaker 1>for instance, I'm living paycheck to paycheck. I got a

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<v Speaker 1>kid or two whatever, I make the rent, but barely

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<v Speaker 1>every month. How long is it gonna take till Congress

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<v Speaker 1>or the state legislature, or my county or whatever get

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<v Speaker 1>me out of the hole. I'm gonna be early fall. Well, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and there there are various laws being proposed in various

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<v Speaker 1>immunis well various parts of the country that you can't

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<v Speaker 1>evict anybody, etcetera, etcetera. But this is complex stuff and

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to take a while to grind out. I

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<v Speaker 1>guarantee it's not as crowded in that bar as I

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<v Speaker 1>know those kind of bars, as it was my grocery

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<v Speaker 1>stores that yesterday. We were packed in like sardines of

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<v Speaker 1>the grocery store. Yes or as he said, the dry

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<v Speaker 1>cleaner next door, as more foot traffic than we do.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe ought to, you know, get an ironing board in

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<v Speaker 1>there and press people's pants while they drink. Has it

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<v Speaker 1>been so long since I drank that pickled eggs are

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<v Speaker 1>no longer behind the cash registered my favorite bars A

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<v Speaker 1>little joky there, old timer. Wow, it's just sad, part strong,