WEBVTT - Executive Disorder: White House Weekly #19 0:00:01.720 --> 0:00:07.000 Cool media. 0:00:08.039 --> 0:00:11.840 This is it could happen here? Executive Disorder, our weekly 0:00:11.880 --> 0:00:14.240 news class covering what's happening in the White House, the 0:00:14.280 --> 0:00:17.000 crumbling world, and what it means for you. I'm Garrison 0:00:17.040 --> 0:00:21.360 Davis today, joined by Mia Wong, James Toute, and Robert Evans. Yes, Taco, 0:00:21.480 --> 0:00:24.920 Trump sweeps the nation, Musk is out with Stephen Miller's wife, 0:00:24.960 --> 0:00:28.400 Liberation Day, tariffs or fought in court. This episode covering 0:00:28.400 --> 0:00:30.680 the week of May twenty eighth to June four. 0:00:31.080 --> 0:00:33.800 So much good stuff this week also a terrorist attack 0:00:33.920 --> 0:00:36.720 not good. But before we get into that, I want 0:00:36.760 --> 0:00:39.160 to let you guys know, I watched the movie Mountainhead, 0:00:39.200 --> 0:00:41.720 and then I had a dream starring all of you 0:00:41.960 --> 0:00:44.920 in the movie Mountainhead, and it went a lot better 0:00:45.000 --> 0:00:47.600 since we were just skiing and enjoying the woods. 0:00:48.000 --> 0:00:48.200 Nice. 0:00:48.240 --> 0:00:52.160 I don't know, nobody launched an AI that destroyed civilization. 0:00:52.400 --> 0:00:55.360 Steve Carell wasn't there. Actually, I wouldn't mind hanging out 0:00:55.360 --> 0:00:57.360 with Steve Carell, but not the Steve Carrell from that 0:00:57.400 --> 0:00:58.960 movie anyway. Interesting movie. 0:00:59.280 --> 0:01:02.320 Uh yeah, interesting dream too, Bet the sounds of it. 0:01:02.480 --> 0:01:05.120 Wow, Thanks for that that quick Robert film review. 0:01:05.200 --> 0:01:06.360 Thanks for sharing, Bud. Yeah. 0:01:06.600 --> 0:01:08.480 I guess side piece of news that we weren't focusing 0:01:08.480 --> 0:01:10.800 on like much today, but we will do a piece 0:01:10.800 --> 0:01:13.160 on in the future is trumps coud a deal with 0:01:13.240 --> 0:01:15.960 Palanteer to create an extensive new database that compiles information 0:01:16.360 --> 0:01:19.280 on everybody in the country. This covers bank numbers, student debt, 0:01:19.319 --> 0:01:23.240 medical claims, disability status. I think this summer myself for 0:01:23.480 --> 0:01:26.920 a few other people on this episode, we'll we'll work 0:01:26.959 --> 0:01:31.560 together on an episode just about surveillance, like Flock Gideon Foundry. 0:01:32.000 --> 0:01:35.240 These these surveillance systems that are getting like spread all 0:01:35.280 --> 0:01:37.800 across the country. So we will do a whole episode 0:01:37.800 --> 0:01:39.600 on that in the future. But let's start with that 0:01:39.760 --> 0:01:43.720 and then pivots to Robert Evans to discuss terrorism. 0:01:44.080 --> 0:01:49.600 I hardly know herorism. Someone else should continue the episode. Now, No, 0:01:49.720 --> 0:01:55.560 this is your this is your Sorry, that was a 0:01:55.600 --> 0:01:56.600 perfect segue. 0:01:56.800 --> 0:01:58.720 Nobody's bailing you out of this ship. 0:01:58.920 --> 0:02:01.440 Yeah, we're fine. 0:02:01.640 --> 0:02:03.240 Oh my god, all right, let me pull Let me 0:02:03.240 --> 0:02:05.280 pull up the right the proper dock. Because I did 0:02:05.280 --> 0:02:07.680 this on my Chichescu doc because we recorded both of 0:02:07.680 --> 0:02:08.680 those episodes today. 0:02:09.240 --> 0:02:11.119 God, what a hotwarming day you've had. 0:02:11.200 --> 0:02:11.600 Robot. 0:02:11.720 --> 0:02:16.920 Oh yeah, Chichescu, a guy fire bombing a rally in Denver. 0:02:18.440 --> 0:02:22.680 It's it's all been really good stuff. Yeah, mostly mostly chill. Thanks. 0:02:23.280 --> 0:02:27.120 So on June second, there was a rally in Boulder, 0:02:27.280 --> 0:02:32.560 Colorado for a group that was protesting for hostages that 0:02:32.680 --> 0:02:35.320 were taken by Hamas on October seventh. There's like, I 0:02:35.360 --> 0:02:39.960 think fifty somewhere around fifty who are still unaccounted for 0:02:39.960 --> 0:02:42.720 for varying reasons. And that was that was what approach 0:02:42.840 --> 0:02:44.200 was for. And there was like, there was like a 0:02:44.240 --> 0:02:46.480 gathering and they were supposed to be doing like a run, right, 0:02:46.880 --> 0:02:49.440 in order to raise awareness about the hostages, right, So 0:02:49.520 --> 0:02:54.040 that's that's that's the event that happened on the second 0:02:54.520 --> 0:02:59.600 and a man approached during that gathering, Mohammed Sabri Soloman, 0:03:00.160 --> 0:03:04.160 and he started throwing molotov cocktails. Every story I have 0:03:04.240 --> 0:03:07.800 gives slightly different numbers for how many molotovs he had 0:03:07.840 --> 0:03:10.880 prepared and how many he had when he was taken. 0:03:11.160 --> 0:03:13.800 Like an AP News story said that he had sixteen 0:03:13.840 --> 0:03:16.800 unused molotovs that were covered by law enforcement after the attack, 0:03:17.440 --> 0:03:21.040 but I think CNN said fourteen, Yeah, fourteen unlit molotovs. 0:03:21.040 --> 0:03:22.720 So it's kind of clear to be how many they were, 0:03:23.040 --> 0:03:26.040 but he threw a number of these at the group 0:03:26.080 --> 0:03:30.040 of demonstrators. He also had what's described in most of 0:03:30.080 --> 0:03:34.680 the articles I find as an improvised flamethrower. And so 0:03:35.080 --> 0:03:37.040 you know, when I heard that, my first question was, 0:03:37.080 --> 0:03:39.880 like a makeshift flamethrower. Sorry was the exact term the 0:03:39.920 --> 0:03:42.800 police used. And when I first heard that, I was like, well, 0:03:42.880 --> 0:03:44.520 that could mean a lot of things. They could literally 0:03:44.520 --> 0:03:46.320 just feel like he had like a cand of like spray, 0:03:46.360 --> 0:03:48.240 that's that's flammable that he liked. 0:03:48.040 --> 0:03:50.320 A writer up to could have link steeredro No, it. 0:03:50.280 --> 0:03:54.040 Was apparently like a fertilizer or pesticide sprayer type deal 0:03:54.240 --> 0:03:56.560 that he had fuel in, right, So it actually was 0:03:56.600 --> 0:03:59.040 a makeshift flamethrower he was attempting, but he did not 0:03:59.320 --> 0:04:04.280 use it on the demonstrators. He did burn himself pretty badly. 0:04:05.040 --> 0:04:07.240 He had like body armor on that he took off 0:04:07.280 --> 0:04:09.240 after he Like basically what seems to have happened is 0:04:09.280 --> 0:04:12.360 he throws something like half a dozen firebombs at this crowd, 0:04:13.080 --> 0:04:16.479 and he injures a number of people, several of them 0:04:16.720 --> 0:04:20.960 quite severely. There's at least last I checked six people 0:04:21.000 --> 0:04:24.320 who are still in the hospital, one in critical condition, 0:04:24.839 --> 0:04:28.080 although that may have changed since we recorded this podcast. 0:04:28.120 --> 0:04:30.480 The victims who were wounded range in age from fifty 0:04:30.560 --> 0:04:35.280 two to eighty eight. And yeah, so he hurts a 0:04:35.400 --> 0:04:38.080 number of people with these molotovs, and then the way 0:04:38.160 --> 0:04:42.320 he described it, he like felt like he couldn't continue 0:04:42.360 --> 0:04:44.680 going through with the attack. He had been planning this 0:04:44.720 --> 0:04:47.520 thing for more than a year, we know, or at 0:04:47.600 --> 0:04:51.440 least that's what he claimed, and he's he basically said that, like, yeah, 0:04:51.480 --> 0:04:53.960 once I actually started it, I found it very difficult 0:04:54.000 --> 0:04:57.120 to continue. So it seems like he kind of like 0:04:57.720 --> 0:05:00.400 didn't go as far with this thing as he could have, 0:05:00.440 --> 0:05:02.760 because it turns out lighting people on fire, even when 0:05:02.760 --> 0:05:05.920 you're very angry, is something that most people cannot bring 0:05:05.960 --> 0:05:08.919 themselves to do. Past this certain point, he is on 0:05:09.120 --> 0:05:12.680 video screaming Palestinas free, and he stated to the authorities 0:05:12.720 --> 0:05:14.480 that when he'd been planning this for a year, his 0:05:14.560 --> 0:05:17.760 goal was to kill Zionists. So, you know, this is 0:05:17.960 --> 0:05:21.240 it's very clear like what this is motivated by, right, 0:05:21.360 --> 0:05:26.039 Like what his motivation was. His background is interesting. I 0:05:26.040 --> 0:05:29.839 guess you'd say he and his family come from Egypt. 0:05:30.160 --> 0:05:33.159 And yeah. He attended Like high school in Egypt and 0:05:33.240 --> 0:05:35.520 later moved to Kuwait. He has a history of like. 0:05:35.560 --> 0:05:37.880 It seems like he kind of got politically active during 0:05:37.880 --> 0:05:41.080 the Arab Spring. He posted a bunch of pictures of 0:05:41.120 --> 0:05:43.960 Mohammed Morsey, the leader of the Muslim Brotherhood who served 0:05:43.960 --> 0:05:47.760 as Egypt's president from twenty twelve to twenty thirteen. He 0:05:48.040 --> 0:05:52.240 protested against the military coup that removed Morsey from power, 0:05:52.800 --> 0:05:56.120 and he and his family entered the United States in 0:05:56.200 --> 0:05:59.839 August of twenty twenty two as a non immigrant visitor, 0:06:00.279 --> 0:06:02.360 and in twenty twenty three he received a two year 0:06:02.400 --> 0:06:05.800 work authorization, which expired in March. He had tried to 0:06:05.839 --> 0:06:08.159 come to the US in two thousand and five. His 0:06:08.240 --> 0:06:11.279 primary goal in coming here in twenty twenty two was 0:06:11.320 --> 0:06:14.800 to get his daughter, primarily into a good medical school. 0:06:15.080 --> 0:06:17.760 He moved there with his wife and his kids. His 0:06:17.839 --> 0:06:19.920 daughter was on the process of graduating. They had been 0:06:19.960 --> 0:06:22.719 living in Kuwait, but for a variety of weak reasons, 0:06:22.800 --> 0:06:25.320 especially the fact that they were not citizens. She was like, 0:06:25.320 --> 0:06:27.520 I'm not going to be able to go into medicine 0:06:27.520 --> 0:06:30.240 in Kuwait. His daughter seems to be a very gifted 0:06:30.240 --> 0:06:33.320 medical student and so they moved here and she got 0:06:33.360 --> 0:06:36.120 into a medical school. And in fact, he seems to 0:06:36.160 --> 0:06:39.160 have waited to carry out his attack until her graduation, 0:06:39.880 --> 0:06:42.680 Like he wanted her to be started on her path 0:06:42.760 --> 0:06:45.200 to becoming a doctor before he carried out this attack. 0:06:45.279 --> 0:06:47.800 I think, both in the hope that it would protect 0:06:47.839 --> 0:06:50.320 her and she wouldn't get forced out of the country, 0:06:51.000 --> 0:06:52.960 which we'll talk about in a little bit, and I 0:06:52.960 --> 0:06:54.560 think probably just be as easier todad and he wanted 0:06:54.560 --> 0:06:57.520 to see her graduate, right, But then he carries out 0:06:57.520 --> 0:06:59.880 this attack. His family does not seem to have known. 0:07:00.040 --> 0:07:02.680 He basically left some messages for them as he left 0:07:02.680 --> 0:07:06.400 to carry it out. His wife took his phone into 0:07:06.440 --> 0:07:09.760 the authorities, which I read is her being like, I'm 0:07:09.880 --> 0:07:12.240 at this point trying to do whatever I can to 0:07:12.360 --> 0:07:15.520 make the government less likely to prosecute the rest of 0:07:15.560 --> 0:07:20.080 my family. Like he's a writer, right, Like he like 0:07:20.080 --> 0:07:22.560 like I can't be concerned about him, right, I've got kids, 0:07:22.720 --> 0:07:23.640 you know, and. 0:07:23.640 --> 0:07:26.960 Like potentially trying to stop anything else happening. If he was, 0:07:27.160 --> 0:07:28.920 you know, like maybe he had other people who'd been 0:07:28.920 --> 0:07:30.560 playing this with who are planning other things. 0:07:30.680 --> 0:07:33.200 Right, she doesn't know did he build a bomb, Right, 0:07:33.280 --> 0:07:34.040 she has no idea. 0:07:34.200 --> 0:07:34.440 Yeah. 0:07:34.480 --> 0:07:36.800 I should also note here that when he was planning 0:07:36.880 --> 0:07:39.640 this attack, he initially planned to do a shooting. He 0:07:39.680 --> 0:07:42.000 took a concealed carry class, or at least he told 0:07:42.040 --> 0:07:44.320 investigators he took a concealed carry class. Right, he could 0:07:44.320 --> 0:07:45.520 be lying about some of this. This is what the 0:07:45.520 --> 0:07:48.360 police are reported. Yeah, but he took a concealed carry class. 0:07:48.720 --> 0:07:50.480 But he was not able to buy a gun. The 0:07:50.760 --> 0:07:53.280 AP News article says was denied because he's not a 0:07:53.360 --> 0:07:55.840 legal US citizen. You don't have to be a citizen 0:07:55.880 --> 0:07:57.640 to buy a gun. Yeah, that's not correct, but you 0:07:57.680 --> 0:07:59.560 do have to be in the country legally, right, Like 0:07:59.600 --> 0:08:01.320 you do not have to be a citizen to purchase 0:08:01.360 --> 0:08:03.720 guns in this country, but you do have to be illegal. 0:08:04.040 --> 0:08:05.840 I think you have to be a resident, like certain 0:08:05.960 --> 0:08:07.200 visa categories. 0:08:07.520 --> 0:08:09.240 There's a number of ways to get a gun, not 0:08:09.280 --> 0:08:11.280 a citizen. But he was not able to Yeah, and 0:08:11.320 --> 0:08:14.520 thank goodness, right, Like it's horrifying, Like obviously burning people 0:08:14.600 --> 0:08:17.320 is horrifying. Like the injuries that these people suffered are 0:08:17.320 --> 0:08:21.080 pretty are deeply Like there's no pleasant burn injury. But 0:08:21.160 --> 0:08:23.920 people would have just died if he'd shot them, right, like, yeah, 0:08:24.200 --> 0:08:25.920 that's just the reality of the situation. 0:08:26.320 --> 0:08:28.840 That's already happened in Boulder once, like Bulder had a 0:08:28.840 --> 0:08:31.200 mass shooting at a supermarket, right not so long ago. 0:08:31.440 --> 0:08:34.160 Yeah, so that's the that's that's the bones of what 0:08:34.240 --> 0:08:34.760 happened here. 0:08:35.240 --> 0:08:37.640 No, I mean, having this like less than a week 0:08:38.280 --> 0:08:42.120 after the Embassy shooting is pretty notable. 0:08:41.760 --> 0:08:45.400 Not great. Yeah, speaks to the contagion way these kinds 0:08:45.440 --> 0:08:46.319 of things spread. 0:08:46.200 --> 0:08:48.520 Right exactly meanly las last week we talked about how 0:08:48.600 --> 0:08:53.440 like this plays into like media that only benefits the 0:08:53.480 --> 0:08:56.040 actions that Israel's continuing to take, and how much a 0:08:56.120 --> 0:08:58.600 media attention was going towards the shooting and like the 0:08:58.600 --> 0:09:01.480 immediate aftermath. And something that I found a little bit 0:09:01.480 --> 0:09:05.120 interesting is how fast that story kind of went away, 0:09:05.400 --> 0:09:08.880 which which I wasn't really expecting. I thought it would. 0:09:08.880 --> 0:09:11.400 It would they would be you know, relevant for a 0:09:11.400 --> 0:09:13.160 little bit longer. People will try to keep it relevant 0:09:13.160 --> 0:09:14.720 for a little bit longer. I think part of the 0:09:14.720 --> 0:09:16.400 reason why maybe it went away faster than what we 0:09:16.440 --> 0:09:19.520 thought is so that it would not encourage like a 0:09:19.559 --> 0:09:23.040 copycat attacks. And that still seems to happen to a degree, 0:09:23.200 --> 0:09:25.160 And I mean it sounds like this guy was planning 0:09:25.160 --> 0:09:27.480 something for a little bit longer, yes, but certainly having 0:09:27.480 --> 0:09:31.520 that other shooting in a close time proximity is notable. 0:09:32.000 --> 0:09:34.760 Yeah, I mean, And the unfortunate reality is that, like, 0:09:35.080 --> 0:09:38.080 I'm sure there's someone else, multiple other people who have 0:09:38.160 --> 0:09:41.760 been planning for different periods of time, other kinds of attacks, 0:09:41.840 --> 0:09:44.319 and we will continue to see stuff like this happen. 0:09:44.440 --> 0:09:44.640 Right. 0:09:45.120 --> 0:09:49.319 Some of this is when something as terrible as the 0:09:49.400 --> 0:09:52.040 datacide happening in Gaza is happening on a small screen 0:09:52.080 --> 0:09:54.240 in front of your face, and you are consuming hours 0:09:54.280 --> 0:09:57.600 of the curated worst footage of it every day. People 0:09:57.679 --> 0:10:00.200 are going to react, and they're not always going to 0:10:00.280 --> 0:10:04.240 react in the most like thoughtful way. Sometimes they're going 0:10:04.280 --> 0:10:06.959 to make a bunch of fucking fire bombs and attack 0:10:07.040 --> 0:10:09.840 a group of people who there's not really any argument 0:10:09.920 --> 0:10:13.760 that these particular groups of people had anyone at any influence. 0:10:13.520 --> 0:10:15.560 Any any material consequence. 0:10:15.120 --> 0:10:17.240 Any power in the Israeli government, but. 0:10:18.200 --> 0:10:19.640 One of them is a Holocaust survivor. 0:10:19.880 --> 0:10:22.760 People are going to take irrational, terrible action that's just 0:10:22.800 --> 0:10:23.360 going to happen. 0:10:23.440 --> 0:10:27.600 You know, it breaks people. Yeah, kind of prolonged vicarious 0:10:27.640 --> 0:10:29.560 trauma especially is not good for you. 0:10:29.720 --> 0:10:31.320 I think a lot of this loan Wolf attack is 0:10:31.440 --> 0:10:35.720 almost a way that people like cope with themselves after 0:10:36.040 --> 0:10:38.719 watching this thing unfold on your screen, right, and then 0:10:38.840 --> 0:10:40.240 as a response. 0:10:39.880 --> 0:10:42.000 I have to do something, is what he said, right, Like, 0:10:42.040 --> 0:10:43.720 I'm never gonna be able to live with myself ily 0:10:43.800 --> 0:10:44.320 do something. 0:10:44.679 --> 0:10:47.160 And then as a response, you use the violence of 0:10:47.160 --> 0:10:48.960 a gun to carve your name into history. 0:10:49.559 --> 0:10:53.040 And yeah, as someone who did something, I did something. 0:10:53.160 --> 0:10:56.480 Yeah, this is this is something and you know it's 0:10:57.120 --> 0:10:59.800 it's it's it's bad, like it just has it's just 0:11:00.080 --> 0:11:02.000 some number of people. This is how they're they're going 0:11:02.040 --> 0:11:05.560 to react and to an extent, I don't know, I 0:11:05.600 --> 0:11:08.280 don't know how you seek to stop this. You know, 0:11:08.400 --> 0:11:11.440 the authorities have like confirmed this guy was not on 0:11:11.480 --> 0:11:15.160 anyone's watch list. I'm sure neither will the next guy 0:11:15.280 --> 0:11:18.640 or gal who does something right like, this is the world. 0:11:18.760 --> 0:11:20.960 Quite quite frankly, this is in part the world the 0:11:21.000 --> 0:11:23.680 internet has made, right. Yeah, not that not that it 0:11:23.679 --> 0:11:26.400 would be good if horrifying footage of the genocide and 0:11:26.440 --> 0:11:30.000 Gaza wasn't getting out to people, But like, this isn't 0:11:30.000 --> 0:11:33.360 the first time we have watched a series of attacks 0:11:33.640 --> 0:11:37.360 carried out and copy attacks and copycat attacks like carried 0:11:37.360 --> 0:11:39.960 out and spread as a result of things that are 0:11:39.960 --> 0:11:42.800 spreading in digital media, right, Like this is this is 0:11:42.880 --> 0:11:45.600 like a thing that's happened over and over again. This 0:11:45.679 --> 0:11:48.800 is just kind of how the internet and radical violence 0:11:48.840 --> 0:11:49.640 works well. 0:11:49.640 --> 0:11:50.800 And it's one of those things where like, you know, 0:11:50.840 --> 0:11:52.439 there is a clear way to end the violence, which 0:11:52.480 --> 0:11:54.360 is to end the genocide, which is the other benefit 0:11:54.400 --> 0:11:57.280 of ending the genocide, But these people have no interest 0:11:57.320 --> 0:11:57.560 in that. 0:11:57.679 --> 0:11:59.680 No, these people and don't I don't know how to 0:12:00.160 --> 0:12:03.160 right like like like I don't like if you're asking, like, well, 0:12:03.160 --> 0:12:04.800 how do we end the genocide? Where like I guess 0:12:04.840 --> 0:12:08.080 you could get the entire international community to stop trading 0:12:08.160 --> 0:12:10.840 or selling weapons to Israel and also blockade the country, 0:12:10.840 --> 0:12:12.320 But like, well, then how do we do that? They're 0:12:12.320 --> 0:12:15.000 not god right, Like, I can't I can't make them. 0:12:15.040 --> 0:12:18.800 I can't make the US shoot down Israeli missiles or aircraft. 0:12:18.840 --> 0:12:20.720 Like I don't have the ability to like yell our 0:12:20.760 --> 0:12:21.880 government into doing that. 0:12:22.720 --> 0:12:24.800 Yeah, it's how to you, right, Like, as a person 0:12:24.920 --> 0:12:28.760 potentially a person who's isolating, I don't know, man, if 0:12:28.760 --> 0:12:31.680 this person is isn't part of a community, right, hasn't 0:12:31.679 --> 0:12:34.400 found community like processing that trauma and feeling like you 0:12:34.400 --> 0:12:36.960 have to do something, some people's brains will break in 0:12:36.960 --> 0:12:39.920 a way that leads to violence. Yeah, I want to 0:12:39.960 --> 0:12:44.040 talk about state violence now, if that's okay, because I 0:12:44.040 --> 0:12:46.920 think what he did was fucked up and wrong, and 0:12:47.120 --> 0:12:49.600 no one should obviously be firebombing Holocaust survivor. I think 0:12:49.600 --> 0:12:52.640 that's something we can agree on. What has happened to 0:12:52.640 --> 0:12:56.439 his family is also wrong, right, like it you shouldn't 0:12:56.480 --> 0:12:58.120 be punished for being related to someone who did a 0:12:58.160 --> 0:12:59.000 bad thing, and. 0:12:58.920 --> 0:13:01.119 Oh god, and this is yeah, this is also horrifying. 0:13:01.200 --> 0:13:03.920 Yeah, yeah, the whole thing is a story of like 0:13:04.160 --> 0:13:05.320 collateral damage. 0:13:05.640 --> 0:13:09.720 Yeah. So the White House on four twelve pm on 0:13:09.720 --> 0:13:15.120 the third of June tweeted zeated just In Colon, the 0:13:15.160 --> 0:13:18.200 wife and five children of illegal alien Mohammed Solomon, the 0:13:18.240 --> 0:13:21.040 suspect in the anti Semitic fire bombing of Jewish Americans, 0:13:21.360 --> 0:13:25.920 have been captured, captured and are now in ICE custody 0:13:25.960 --> 0:13:29.800 for expedited removal next parties in block capitals. They could 0:13:29.800 --> 0:13:34.480 be deported as early as tonight. This is heartbreaking, right again, 0:13:34.559 --> 0:13:38.600 Like we've talked about habeas before, but the foundation of 0:13:39.280 --> 0:13:43.679 everything that legal systems based on English common law hold 0:13:43.760 --> 0:13:45.240 is you have to have evidence that the person did 0:13:45.280 --> 0:13:47.400 something wrong, not that they're related to the person who 0:13:47.400 --> 0:13:48.200 did something wrong. 0:13:48.440 --> 0:13:48.760 Right. 0:13:48.920 --> 0:13:52.119 You know, both Robert and I are both intimately familiar 0:13:52.360 --> 0:13:55.200 at least you know. I've received calls from young people 0:13:55.280 --> 0:13:58.400 in Burma who we've interviewed whose families have been captured 0:13:58.520 --> 0:14:01.520 because of their part is based on the revolution, and like, yeah, 0:14:01.600 --> 0:14:02.839 this is not a part of the U I should 0:14:02.840 --> 0:14:05.640 be going down. I want to explain very briefly what 0:14:05.679 --> 0:14:09.160 expedited removal is, because I have seen some shit that 0:14:09.200 --> 0:14:12.400 suggests maybe folks don't understand it. That's fine, it's complicated. 0:14:12.600 --> 0:14:14.840 So expeditive removal is supposed to be reserved for people 0:14:14.840 --> 0:14:18.760 who arrive at a land border port of entry or EWI. 0:14:18.960 --> 0:14:23.840 EWI is an acronym entering without inspection. That means entering 0:14:23.920 --> 0:14:27.000 between ports of entry right over the wall, under the wall, 0:14:27.680 --> 0:14:31.600 over the beach, what have you, right, entering without going 0:14:31.600 --> 0:14:33.680 through a port of entry, and they're supposed to have 0:14:33.680 --> 0:14:36.760 been here for less than two years. The Trump administration 0:14:36.840 --> 0:14:40.960 has been massively expanding the use of expectitive removal. Recently, 0:14:41.600 --> 0:14:44.480 why they're doing this is because in an expectitive removal proceeding, 0:14:44.480 --> 0:14:47.560 lower level immigration officials can remove people without them seeing 0:14:47.640 --> 0:14:51.800 a judge. Those people can still make a credible fear claim, 0:14:52.520 --> 0:14:54.800 which has to be assessed by an asylum officer and 0:14:54.840 --> 0:14:57.720 then approved by a judge. But this is a lot 0:14:57.800 --> 0:15:00.520 harder right than then going through the asylum process, and 0:15:00.560 --> 0:15:03.960 they have to prove beyond reasonable doubt. I guess I 0:15:04.000 --> 0:15:06.120 think it's a reasonable fear frame. I think incredible fear 0:15:06.160 --> 0:15:08.880 is a higher standard for another removal braziling that they 0:15:08.920 --> 0:15:10.920 are likely to be tortured by the government or with 0:15:10.920 --> 0:15:13.200 the acquiescence of their government if they're sent home. Right, 0:15:13.920 --> 0:15:16.800 its use had previously peaked with one hundred and ninety 0:15:16.800 --> 0:15:19.920 seven cases in twenty thirteen. That was under Obama right 0:15:20.560 --> 0:15:23.440 and surprisingly didn't see people writing about it. Then it 0:15:23.520 --> 0:15:27.280 was used even more extensively by the Biden administration, especially 0:15:27.480 --> 0:15:31.880 in twenty twenty four with Biden passed his asylum ban 0:15:32.200 --> 0:15:35.840 right by executive order. The first Trump administration did use it. 0:15:35.920 --> 0:15:38.640 They used it in a more broad range of cases, 0:15:38.720 --> 0:15:41.240 but they didn't use it in as many cases as 0:15:41.320 --> 0:15:45.480 either the Obama or the Biden administration. Right experited removal 0:15:45.640 --> 0:15:49.400 is supposed to be for the most serious cases, for 0:15:50.040 --> 0:15:53.840 things where the person is as a threat or a danger, 0:15:53.960 --> 0:15:55.720 or for other reasons need to be removed quickly. It 0:15:55.760 --> 0:15:58.880 was never designed. It was passed in I think in 0:15:58.920 --> 0:16:03.200 the early two thousand decade of this century. Was never 0:16:03.280 --> 0:16:07.520 supposed to be used like this, right, Robert, you mentioned 0:16:07.520 --> 0:16:09.760 these people had entered the United States in twenty twenty three, 0:16:09.840 --> 0:16:10.560 I think. 0:16:10.600 --> 0:16:13.880 Twenty twenty two, and then he got a visa, a 0:16:13.920 --> 0:16:15.880 two year visa to work. In twenty twenty three. They 0:16:16.040 --> 0:16:17.400 entered on a tourist visa. 0:16:17.480 --> 0:16:21.880 Essentially, they're not within that two year window. Right to 0:16:21.960 --> 0:16:24.800 the extent that that matters, I don't know, right, So 0:16:24.840 --> 0:16:28.320 they will now, having done nothing wrong in the case 0:16:28.320 --> 0:16:30.720 of his wife, having attempted to cooperate with law enforcement 0:16:30.800 --> 0:16:33.960 to stop her husband or anyone with him hurting anyone else, 0:16:34.520 --> 0:16:38.040 they will be detained in the Nice detention center. They 0:16:38.080 --> 0:16:40.480 will have to make a claim of credible fear right. 0:16:40.800 --> 0:16:43.000 They will have to say it is dangerous for you 0:16:43.080 --> 0:16:45.560 to send us back. I presume that citizenship is Egyptian, 0:16:45.600 --> 0:16:47.520 so I presume they will be sent there. That's a 0:16:47.600 --> 0:16:51.440 very high hurdle for them to clear, and I mean, 0:16:51.480 --> 0:16:53.800 I'm sure that there are national immigration nonprofits who are 0:16:53.840 --> 0:16:56.680 willing to fight their case because the abuse of expert 0:16:56.720 --> 0:16:59.920 to removal in the last two years, to be very clear, 0:17:00.320 --> 0:17:06.160 by administration as well, has seriously undermined the due process 0:17:06.240 --> 0:17:09.560 rights of migrants. But this is still a further step 0:17:09.720 --> 0:17:13.280 and a significant step in removing those So I'm going 0:17:13.280 --> 0:17:14.840 to follow this case. I'm sure i'll update you on 0:17:14.880 --> 0:17:17.000 it next week. I also just want to note that, 0:17:17.080 --> 0:17:20.480 like this has dominated a news cycle, yesterday, twenty seven 0:17:20.520 --> 0:17:23.960 people were killed in Gaza attempting to obtain humanitarian aid. 0:17:24.080 --> 0:17:24.240 Right. 0:17:24.280 --> 0:17:28.400 The IDF is still denying that. I don't really care that. 0:17:28.400 --> 0:17:31.560 The Red Cross as well as health authorities in Garda 0:17:31.640 --> 0:17:34.280 have confirmed that twenty seven people were killed en route 0:17:34.359 --> 0:17:37.840 to one of the humanitarian or the humanitarian aid distribution 0:17:37.920 --> 0:17:39.879 point where they've concentrated it in the sudden end of 0:17:39.920 --> 0:17:42.320 the gard the trip. We will have an episode on 0:17:42.400 --> 0:17:45.479 Palestine next week. I don't want one person's kind of 0:17:45.520 --> 0:17:49.200 stupid action to overshadow the killing of many more people 0:17:49.240 --> 0:17:51.440 and that tragic loss of life. Right, So I don't 0:17:51.440 --> 0:17:53.320 think that we won't be covering that we will. What 0:17:53.320 --> 0:17:56.960 we will also be doing is pivoting to advertisements. 0:17:57.040 --> 0:18:21.840 Right now, that's right, baby. 0:18:12.200 --> 0:18:15.800 Let me let me maybe get out my guacamole fucking algorithm. 0:18:17.840 --> 0:18:21.960 Couldn't it becomes the joker? Is that the pivot to 0:18:22.000 --> 0:18:28.000 the Yeah? Okay, yeah, oh god, okay, let's let's talk 0:18:28.040 --> 0:18:29.199 about Taco Trump. 0:18:29.280 --> 0:18:33.440 Oh yeah, finally, finally. 0:18:33.400 --> 0:18:36.200 Get out your hot, get out your black let's go 0:18:36.800 --> 0:18:37.919 Taco Trump party. 0:18:38.640 --> 0:18:40.840 If you're doing getting full d NC style, pick a 0:18:40.920 --> 0:18:43.760 slightly racist Mexican costume or somethink I guess, like. 0:18:44.400 --> 0:18:48.520 So many many years ago, I I was I was 0:18:48.520 --> 0:18:51.719 a professional StarCraft two fan, and this meant that I 0:18:51.800 --> 0:18:55.200 was exposed to Gungan style a full two weeks before 0:18:55.240 --> 0:18:59.359 everyone else. And this was my experience with Taco because 0:18:59.480 --> 0:19:02.600 I started hearing this from like financial news outlets, and 0:19:02.680 --> 0:19:05.280 like my friend Vicky was sending me things. They're like, yeah, 0:19:05.280 --> 0:19:07.040 they came up with this thing, they're calling it Taco, 0:19:07.080 --> 0:19:09.439 And then like four days later, all of the like 0:19:09.520 --> 0:19:10.879 regular news outlet's caught out to it. 0:19:10.920 --> 0:19:12.680 And I didn't want to say ship in the nation 0:19:13.119 --> 0:19:15.080 maya liked it before it was cool. 0:19:15.720 --> 0:19:19.800 So Taco is this like unbelievable delusion that the finance 0:19:19.840 --> 0:19:23.640 people have had to like like program into their brains 0:19:23.640 --> 0:19:27.120 in order to like keep themselves from believing their own 0:19:27.200 --> 0:19:31.240 eyes about what's happening with the economy. So Taco stands 0:19:31.280 --> 0:19:34.480 for Trump always chickens out. And it's these people's belief 0:19:34.560 --> 0:19:36.960 that Trump will like always inevitably in the end back 0:19:37.000 --> 0:19:39.560 down from the terrace. And I've been seeing this a lot, right, 0:19:39.600 --> 0:19:40.919 Like I was seeing this some people who were like 0:19:41.560 --> 0:19:44.800 who's analysis I respect? Who are talking about how like, yeah, 0:19:44.800 --> 0:19:46.800 the structural conditions of the economy are saus so Trump 0:19:46.800 --> 0:19:48.800