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Speaker 2: This is it could happen here? Executive Disorder, our weekly
Speaker 2: news class covering what's happening in the White House, the
Speaker 2: crumbling world, and what it means for you. I'm Garrison
Speaker 2: Davis today, joined by Mia Wong, James Toute, and Robert Evans. Yes, Taco,
Speaker 2: Trump sweeps the nation, Musk is out with Stephen Miller's wife,
Speaker 2: Liberation Day, tariffs or fought in court. This episode covering
Speaker 2: the week of May twenty eighth to June four.
Speaker 1: So much good stuff this week also a terrorist attack
Speaker 1: not good. But before we get into that, I want
Speaker 1: to let you guys know, I watched the movie Mountainhead,
Speaker 1: and then I had a dream starring all of you
Speaker 1: in the movie Mountainhead, and it went a lot better
Speaker 1: since we were just skiing and enjoying the woods.
Speaker 3: Nice.
Speaker 1: I don't know, nobody launched an AI that destroyed civilization.
Speaker 1: Steve Carell wasn't there. Actually, I wouldn't mind hanging out
Speaker 1: with Steve Carell, but not the Steve Carrell from that
Speaker 1: movie anyway. Interesting movie.
Speaker 4: Uh yeah, interesting dream too, Bet the sounds of it.
Speaker 2: Wow, Thanks for that that quick Robert film review.
Speaker 4: Thanks for sharing, Bud. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I guess side piece of news that we weren't focusing
Speaker 2: on like much today, but we will do a piece
Speaker 2: on in the future is trumps coud a deal with
Speaker 2: Palanteer to create an extensive new database that compiles information
Speaker 2: on everybody in the country. This covers bank numbers, student debt,
Speaker 2: medical claims, disability status. I think this summer myself for
Speaker 2: a few other people on this episode, we'll we'll work
Speaker 2: together on an episode just about surveillance, like Flock Gideon Foundry.
Speaker 2: These these surveillance systems that are getting like spread all
Speaker 2: across the country. So we will do a whole episode
Speaker 2: on that in the future. But let's start with that
Speaker 2: and then pivots to Robert Evans to discuss terrorism.
Speaker 1: I hardly know herorism. Someone else should continue the episode. Now, No,
Speaker 1: this is your this is your Sorry, that was a
Speaker 1: perfect segue.
Speaker 3: Nobody's bailing you out of this ship.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we're fine.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, all right, let me pull Let me
Speaker 1: pull up the right the proper dock. Because I did
Speaker 1: this on my Chichescu doc because we recorded both of
Speaker 1: those episodes today.
Speaker 4: God, what a hotwarming day you've had.
Speaker 3: Robot.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Chichescu, a guy fire bombing a rally in Denver.
Speaker 1: It's it's all been really good stuff. Yeah, mostly mostly chill. Thanks.
Speaker 1: So on June second, there was a rally in Boulder,
Speaker 1: Colorado for a group that was protesting for hostages that
Speaker 1: were taken by Hamas on October seventh. There's like, I
Speaker 1: think fifty somewhere around fifty who are still unaccounted for
Speaker 1: for varying reasons. And that was that was what approach
Speaker 1: was for. And there was like, there was like a
Speaker 1: gathering and they were supposed to be doing like a run, right,
Speaker 1: in order to raise awareness about the hostages, right, So
Speaker 1: that's that's that's the event that happened on the second
Speaker 1: and a man approached during that gathering, Mohammed Sabri Soloman,
Speaker 1: and he started throwing molotov cocktails. Every story I have
Speaker 1: gives slightly different numbers for how many molotovs he had
Speaker 1: prepared and how many he had when he was taken.
Speaker 1: Like an AP News story said that he had sixteen
Speaker 1: unused molotovs that were covered by law enforcement after the attack,
Speaker 1: but I think CNN said fourteen, Yeah, fourteen unlit molotovs.
Speaker 1: So it's kind of clear to be how many they were,
Speaker 1: but he threw a number of these at the group
Speaker 1: of demonstrators. He also had what's described in most of
Speaker 1: the articles I find as an improvised flamethrower. And so
Speaker 1: you know, when I heard that, my first question was,
Speaker 1: like a makeshift flamethrower. Sorry was the exact term the
Speaker 1: police used. And when I first heard that, I was like, well,
Speaker 1: that could mean a lot of things. They could literally
Speaker 1: just feel like he had like a cand of like spray,
Speaker 1: that's that's flammable that he liked.
Speaker 4: A writer up to could have link steeredro No, it.
Speaker 1: Was apparently like a fertilizer or pesticide sprayer type deal
Speaker 1: that he had fuel in, right, So it actually was
Speaker 1: a makeshift flamethrower he was attempting, but he did not
Speaker 1: use it on the demonstrators. He did burn himself pretty badly.
Speaker 1: He had like body armor on that he took off
Speaker 1: after he Like basically what seems to have happened is
Speaker 1: he throws something like half a dozen firebombs at this crowd,
Speaker 1: and he injures a number of people, several of them
Speaker 1: quite severely. There's at least last I checked six people
Speaker 1: who are still in the hospital, one in critical condition,
Speaker 1: although that may have changed since we recorded this podcast.
Speaker 1: The victims who were wounded range in age from fifty
Speaker 1: two to eighty eight. And yeah, so he hurts a
Speaker 1: number of people with these molotovs, and then the way
Speaker 1: he described it, he like felt like he couldn't continue
Speaker 1: going through with the attack. He had been planning this
Speaker 1: thing for more than a year, we know, or at
Speaker 1: least that's what he claimed, and he's he basically said that, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: once I actually started it, I found it very difficult
Speaker 1: to continue. So it seems like he kind of like
Speaker 1: didn't go as far with this thing as he could have,
Speaker 1: because it turns out lighting people on fire, even when
Speaker 1: you're very angry, is something that most people cannot bring
Speaker 1: themselves to do. Past this certain point, he is on
Speaker 1: video screaming Palestinas free, and he stated to the authorities
Speaker 1: that when he'd been planning this for a year, his
Speaker 1: goal was to kill Zionists. So, you know, this is
Speaker 1: it's very clear like what this is motivated by, right,
Speaker 1: Like what his motivation was. His background is interesting. I
Speaker 1: guess you'd say he and his family come from Egypt.
Speaker 1: And yeah. He attended Like high school in Egypt and
Speaker 1: later moved to Kuwait. He has a history of like.
Speaker 1: It seems like he kind of got politically active during
Speaker 1: the Arab Spring. He posted a bunch of pictures of
Speaker 1: Mohammed Morsey, the leader of the Muslim Brotherhood who served
Speaker 1: as Egypt's president from twenty twelve to twenty thirteen. He
Speaker 1: protested against the military coup that removed Morsey from power,
Speaker 1: and he and his family entered the United States in
Speaker 1: August of twenty twenty two as a non immigrant visitor,
Speaker 1: and in twenty twenty three he received a two year
Speaker 1: work authorization, which expired in March. He had tried to
Speaker 1: come to the US in two thousand and five. His
Speaker 1: primary goal in coming here in twenty twenty two was
Speaker 1: to get his daughter, primarily into a good medical school.
Speaker 1: He moved there with his wife and his kids. His
Speaker 1: daughter was on the process of graduating. They had been
Speaker 1: living in Kuwait, but for a variety of weak reasons,
Speaker 1: especially the fact that they were not citizens. She was like,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to be able to go into medicine
Speaker 1: in Kuwait. His daughter seems to be a very gifted
Speaker 1: medical student and so they moved here and she got
Speaker 1: into a medical school. And in fact, he seems to
Speaker 1: have waited to carry out his attack until her graduation,
Speaker 1: Like he wanted her to be started on her path
Speaker 1: to becoming a doctor before he carried out this attack.
Speaker 1: I think, both in the hope that it would protect
Speaker 1: her and she wouldn't get forced out of the country,
Speaker 1: which we'll talk about in a little bit, and I
Speaker 1: think probably just be as easier todad and he wanted
Speaker 1: to see her graduate, right, But then he carries out
Speaker 1: this attack. His family does not seem to have known.
Speaker 1: He basically left some messages for them as he left
Speaker 1: to carry it out. His wife took his phone into
Speaker 1: the authorities, which I read is her being like, I'm
Speaker 1: at this point trying to do whatever I can to
Speaker 1: make the government less likely to prosecute the rest of
Speaker 1: my family. Like he's a writer, right, Like he like
Speaker 1: like I can't be concerned about him, right, I've got kids,
Speaker 1: you know, and.
Speaker 4: Like potentially trying to stop anything else happening. If he was,
Speaker 4: you know, like maybe he had other people who'd been
Speaker 4: playing this with who are planning other things.
Speaker 1: Right, she doesn't know did he build a bomb, Right,
Speaker 1: she has no idea.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I should also note here that when he was planning
Speaker 1: this attack, he initially planned to do a shooting. He
Speaker 1: took a concealed carry class, or at least he told
Speaker 1: investigators he took a concealed carry class. Right, he could
Speaker 1: be lying about some of this. This is what the
Speaker 1: police are reported. Yeah, but he took a concealed carry class.
Speaker 1: But he was not able to buy a gun. The
Speaker 1: AP News article says was denied because he's not a
Speaker 1: legal US citizen. You don't have to be a citizen
Speaker 1: to buy a gun. Yeah, that's not correct, but you
Speaker 1: do have to be in the country legally, right, Like
Speaker 1: you do not have to be a citizen to purchase
Speaker 1: guns in this country, but you do have to be illegal.
Speaker 4: I think you have to be a resident, like certain
Speaker 4: visa categories.
Speaker 1: There's a number of ways to get a gun, not
Speaker 1: a citizen. But he was not able to Yeah, and
Speaker 1: thank goodness, right, Like it's horrifying, Like obviously burning people
Speaker 1: is horrifying. Like the injuries that these people suffered are
Speaker 1: pretty are deeply Like there's no pleasant burn injury. But
Speaker 1: people would have just died if he'd shot them, right, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's just the reality of the situation.
Speaker 4: That's already happened in Boulder once, like Bulder had a
Speaker 4: mass shooting at a supermarket, right not so long ago.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's the that's that's the bones of what
Speaker 1: happened here.
Speaker 2: No, I mean, having this like less than a week
Speaker 2: after the Embassy shooting is pretty notable.
Speaker 1: Not great. Yeah, speaks to the contagion way these kinds
Speaker 1: of things spread.
Speaker 2: Right exactly meanly las last week we talked about how
Speaker 2: like this plays into like media that only benefits the
Speaker 2: actions that Israel's continuing to take, and how much a
Speaker 2: media attention was going towards the shooting and like the
Speaker 2: immediate aftermath. And something that I found a little bit
Speaker 2: interesting is how fast that story kind of went away,
Speaker 2: which which I wasn't really expecting. I thought it would.
Speaker 2: It would they would be you know, relevant for a
Speaker 2: little bit longer. People will try to keep it relevant
Speaker 2: for a little bit longer. I think part of the
Speaker 2: reason why maybe it went away faster than what we
Speaker 2: thought is so that it would not encourage like a
Speaker 2: copycat attacks. And that still seems to happen to a degree,
Speaker 2: And I mean it sounds like this guy was planning
Speaker 2: something for a little bit longer, yes, but certainly having
Speaker 2: that other shooting in a close time proximity is notable.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, And the unfortunate reality is that, like,
Speaker 1: I'm sure there's someone else, multiple other people who have
Speaker 1: been planning for different periods of time, other kinds of attacks,
Speaker 1: and we will continue to see stuff like this happen.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 1: Some of this is when something as terrible as the
Speaker 1: datacide happening in Gaza is happening on a small screen
Speaker 1: in front of your face, and you are consuming hours
Speaker 1: of the curated worst footage of it every day. People
Speaker 1: are going to react, and they're not always going to
Speaker 1: react in the most like thoughtful way. Sometimes they're going
Speaker 1: to make a bunch of fucking fire bombs and attack
Speaker 1: a group of people who there's not really any argument
Speaker 1: that these particular groups of people had anyone at any influence.
Speaker 2: Any any material consequence.
Speaker 1: Any power in the Israeli government, but.
Speaker 4: One of them is a Holocaust survivor.
Speaker 1: People are going to take irrational, terrible action that's just
Speaker 1: going to happen.
Speaker 4: You know, it breaks people. Yeah, kind of prolonged vicarious
Speaker 4: trauma especially is not good for you.
Speaker 2: I think a lot of this loan Wolf attack is
Speaker 2: almost a way that people like cope with themselves after
Speaker 2: watching this thing unfold on your screen, right, and then
Speaker 2: as a response.
Speaker 1: I have to do something, is what he said, right, Like,
Speaker 1: I'm never gonna be able to live with myself ily
Speaker 1: do something.
Speaker 2: And then as a response, you use the violence of
Speaker 2: a gun to carve your name into history.
Speaker 4: And yeah, as someone who did something, I did something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is this is something and you know it's
Speaker 1: it's it's it's bad, like it just has it's just
Speaker 1: some number of people. This is how they're they're going
Speaker 1: to react and to an extent, I don't know, I
Speaker 1: don't know how you seek to stop this. You know,
Speaker 1: the authorities have like confirmed this guy was not on
Speaker 1: anyone's watch list. I'm sure neither will the next guy
Speaker 1: or gal who does something right like, this is the world.
Speaker 1: Quite quite frankly, this is in part the world the
Speaker 1: internet has made, right. Yeah, not that not that it
Speaker 1: would be good if horrifying footage of the genocide and
Speaker 1: Gaza wasn't getting out to people, But like, this isn't
Speaker 1: the first time we have watched a series of attacks
Speaker 1: carried out and copy attacks and copycat attacks like carried
Speaker 1: out and spread as a result of things that are
Speaker 1: spreading in digital media, right, Like this is this is
Speaker 1: like a thing that's happened over and over again. This
Speaker 1: is just kind of how the internet and radical violence
Speaker 1: works well.
Speaker 3: And it's one of those things where like, you know,
Speaker 3: there is a clear way to end the violence, which
Speaker 3: is to end the genocide, which is the other benefit
Speaker 3: of ending the genocide, But these people have no interest
Speaker 3: in that.
Speaker 1: No, these people and don't I don't know how to
Speaker 1: right like like like I don't like if you're asking, like, well,
Speaker 1: how do we end the genocide? Where like I guess
Speaker 1: you could get the entire international community to stop trading
Speaker 1: or selling weapons to Israel and also blockade the country,
Speaker 1: But like, well, then how do we do that? They're
Speaker 1: not god right, Like, I can't I can't make them.
Speaker 1: I can't make the US shoot down Israeli missiles or aircraft.
Speaker 1: Like I don't have the ability to like yell our
Speaker 1: government into doing that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's how to you, right, Like, as a person
Speaker 4: potentially a person who's isolating, I don't know, man, if
Speaker 4: this person is isn't part of a community, right, hasn't
Speaker 4: found community like processing that trauma and feeling like you
Speaker 4: have to do something, some people's brains will break in
Speaker 4: a way that leads to violence. Yeah, I want to
Speaker 4: talk about state violence now, if that's okay, because I
Speaker 4: think what he did was fucked up and wrong, and
Speaker 4: no one should obviously be firebombing Holocaust survivor. I think
Speaker 4: that's something we can agree on. What has happened to
Speaker 4: his family is also wrong, right, like it you shouldn't
Speaker 4: be punished for being related to someone who did a
Speaker 4: bad thing, and.
Speaker 1: Oh god, and this is yeah, this is also horrifying.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, the whole thing is a story of like
Speaker 2: collateral damage.
Speaker 4: Yeah. So the White House on four twelve pm on
Speaker 4: the third of June tweeted zeated just In Colon, the
Speaker 4: wife and five children of illegal alien Mohammed Solomon, the
Speaker 4: suspect in the anti Semitic fire bombing of Jewish Americans,
Speaker 4: have been captured, captured and are now in ICE custody
Speaker 4: for expedited removal next parties in block capitals. They could
Speaker 4: be deported as early as tonight. This is heartbreaking, right again,
Speaker 4: Like we've talked about habeas before, but the foundation of
Speaker 4: everything that legal systems based on English common law hold
Speaker 4: is you have to have evidence that the person did
Speaker 4: something wrong, not that they're related to the person who
Speaker 4: did something wrong.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 4: You know, both Robert and I are both intimately familiar
Speaker 4: at least you know. I've received calls from young people
Speaker 4: in Burma who we've interviewed whose families have been captured
Speaker 4: because of their part is based on the revolution, and like, yeah,
Speaker 4: this is not a part of the U I should
Speaker 4: be going down. I want to explain very briefly what
Speaker 4: expedited removal is, because I have seen some shit that
Speaker 4: suggests maybe folks don't understand it. That's fine, it's complicated.
Speaker 4: So expeditive removal is supposed to be reserved for people
Speaker 4: who arrive at a land border port of entry or EWI.
Speaker 4: EWI is an acronym entering without inspection. That means entering
Speaker 4: between ports of entry right over the wall, under the wall,
Speaker 4: over the beach, what have you, right, entering without going
Speaker 4: through a port of entry, and they're supposed to have
Speaker 4: been here for less than two years. The Trump administration
Speaker 4: has been massively expanding the use of expectitive removal. Recently,
Speaker 4: why they're doing this is because in an expectitive removal proceeding,
Speaker 4: lower level immigration officials can remove people without them seeing
Speaker 4: a judge. Those people can still make a credible fear claim,
Speaker 4: which has to be assessed by an asylum officer and
Speaker 4: then approved by a judge. But this is a lot
Speaker 4: harder right than then going through the asylum process, and
Speaker 4: they have to prove beyond reasonable doubt. I guess I
Speaker 4: think it's a reasonable fear frame. I think incredible fear
Speaker 4: is a higher standard for another removal braziling that they
Speaker 4: are likely to be tortured by the government or with
Speaker 4: the acquiescence of their government if they're sent home. Right,
Speaker 4: its use had previously peaked with one hundred and ninety
Speaker 4: seven cases in twenty thirteen. That was under Obama right
Speaker 4: and surprisingly didn't see people writing about it. Then it
Speaker 4: was used even more extensively by the Biden administration, especially
Speaker 4: in twenty twenty four with Biden passed his asylum ban
Speaker 4: right by executive order. The first Trump administration did use it.
Speaker 4: They used it in a more broad range of cases,
Speaker 4: but they didn't use it in as many cases as
Speaker 4: either the Obama or the Biden administration. Right experited removal
Speaker 4: is supposed to be for the most serious cases, for
Speaker 4: things where the person is as a threat or a danger,
Speaker 4: or for other reasons need to be removed quickly. It
Speaker 4: was never designed. It was passed in I think in
Speaker 4: the early two thousand decade of this century. Was never
Speaker 4: supposed to be used like this, right, Robert, you mentioned
Speaker 4: these people had entered the United States in twenty twenty three,
Speaker 4: I think.
Speaker 1: Twenty twenty two, and then he got a visa, a
Speaker 1: two year visa to work. In twenty twenty three. They
Speaker 1: entered on a tourist visa.
Speaker 4: Essentially, they're not within that two year window. Right to
Speaker 4: the extent that that matters, I don't know, right, So
Speaker 4: they will now, having done nothing wrong in the case
Speaker 4: of his wife, having attempted to cooperate with law enforcement
Speaker 4: to stop her husband or anyone with him hurting anyone else,
Speaker 4: they will be detained in the Nice detention center. They
Speaker 4: will have to make a claim of credible fear right.
Speaker 4: They will have to say it is dangerous for you
Speaker 4: to send us back. I presume that citizenship is Egyptian,
Speaker 4: so I presume they will be sent there. That's a
Speaker 4: very high hurdle for them to clear, and I mean,
Speaker 4: I'm sure that there are national immigration nonprofits who are
Speaker 4: willing to fight their case because the abuse of expert
Speaker 4: to removal in the last two years, to be very clear,
Speaker 4: by administration as well, has seriously undermined the due process
Speaker 4: rights of migrants. But this is still a further step
Speaker 4: and a significant step in removing those So I'm going
Speaker 4: to follow this case. I'm sure i'll update you on
Speaker 4: it next week. I also just want to note that,
Speaker 4: like this has dominated a news cycle, yesterday, twenty seven
Speaker 4: people were killed in Gaza attempting to obtain humanitarian aid.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 4: The IDF is still denying that. I don't really care that.
Speaker 4: The Red Cross as well as health authorities in Garda
Speaker 4: have confirmed that twenty seven people were killed en route
Speaker 4: to one of the humanitarian or the humanitarian aid distribution
Speaker 4: point where they've concentrated it in the sudden end of
Speaker 4: the gard the trip. We will have an episode on
Speaker 4: Palestine next week. I don't want one person's kind of
Speaker 4: stupid action to overshadow the killing of many more people
Speaker 4: and that tragic loss of life. Right, So I don't
Speaker 4: think that we won't be covering that we will. What
Speaker 4: we will also be doing is pivoting to advertisements.
Speaker 5: Right now, that's right, baby.
Speaker 2: Let me let me maybe get out my guacamole fucking algorithm.
Speaker 3: Couldn't it becomes the joker? Is that the pivot to
Speaker 3: the Yeah? Okay, yeah, oh god, okay, let's let's talk
Speaker 3: about Taco Trump.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, finally, finally.
Speaker 2: Get out your hot, get out your black let's go
Speaker 2: Taco Trump party.
Speaker 4: If you're doing getting full d NC style, pick a
Speaker 4: slightly racist Mexican costume or somethink I guess, like.
Speaker 3: So many many years ago, I I was I was
Speaker 3: a professional StarCraft two fan, and this meant that I
Speaker 3: was exposed to Gungan style a full two weeks before
Speaker 3: everyone else. And this was my experience with Taco because
Speaker 3: I started hearing this from like financial news outlets, and
Speaker 3: like my friend Vicky was sending me things. They're like, yeah,
Speaker 3: they came up with this thing, they're calling it Taco,
Speaker 3: And then like four days later, all of the like
Speaker 3: regular news outlet's caught out to it.
Speaker 4: And I didn't want to say ship in the nation
Speaker 4: maya liked it before it was cool.
Speaker 3: So Taco is this like unbelievable delusion that the finance
Speaker 3: people have had to like like program into their brains
Speaker 3: in order to like keep themselves from believing their own
Speaker 3: eyes about what's happening with the economy. So Taco stands
Speaker 3: for Trump always chickens out. And it's these people's belief
Speaker 3: that Trump will like always inevitably in the end back
Speaker 3: down from the terrace. And I've been seeing this a lot, right,
Speaker 3: Like I was seeing this some people who were like
Speaker 3: who's analysis I respect? Who are talking about how like, yeah,
Speaker 3: the structural conditions of the economy are saus so Trump
Speaker 3: will always be forced to like roll the tariffs back.
Speaker 3: And then it's like okay, like the fifty percent deal
Speaker 3: tariff went in to affect like today right like I
Speaker 3: don't know.
Speaker 2: I'm going to get some kuming. Oh I'm going to
Speaker 2: get some Corey end or we're gonna mix that up.
Speaker 3: Oh god, yo. This is a financial thing, right that,
Speaker 3: This is the thing that like all the day traders
Speaker 3: like have to convince themselves in order to keep the
Speaker 3: stock marketing going. Yeah that like no, no, no, it's
Speaker 3: gonna be fine.
Speaker 2: This is a magic spell that's being like waved over
Speaker 2: the economy to keep it kind of holding together.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're like, whooh, it's gonna be fine. Ignore the
Speaker 3: thirty So all Chinese goods ignore the tariffs of the
Speaker 3: fifty percent steel tar if.
Speaker 1: Today, you might say me, these economists are saying to Reef,
Speaker 1: we don't like it. Sorry, locking jazz rocket jazz bot locking.
Speaker 2: Rocking jazz bo rocking jazz Bob.
Speaker 1: God, we had to make up for it. Garrison wouldn't
Speaker 1: let us last time.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I know the royalties are getting
Speaker 2: too much. I took an entire week's pay cut so
Speaker 2: that we can pay back the royalty.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 1: Now, the good news is everybody we did manage to
Speaker 1: work out a new healthcare plan for everybody. It is
Speaker 1: the next time you need to go to a doctor,
Speaker 1: there will be an unmarked car with a loaded thirty
Speaker 1: eight special in the glove box. Yeah, so it is
Speaker 1: a step up from United Healthcare. We've actually significantly improved things. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's true.
Speaker 4: And I'm actually taking no pay for a year so
Speaker 4: we can do a white riot, which is just white genocide.
Speaker 4: It's about the genocide of the of the bull people's real.
Speaker 3: So okay, speaking of United health What are these tarriffs
Speaker 3: all these people have convinced themselves is not going to happen,
Speaker 3: is the pharmaceutical tariffs, which are still like coming, right.
Speaker 3: But what sort of happened with this taco shit, right
Speaker 3: is the Democrats were like, Okay, I have found a
Speaker 3: way to criticize Trump that is racist.
Speaker 2: They're all just calling him like that. Also does it
Speaker 2: actually critique his policies like they're they're calling him taco
Speaker 2: and Trump in relation to like negotiations that Iran.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, shit that he should chicken out of it.
Speaker 6: It's good if he doesn't do it. Yeah, yeah, Like
Speaker 6: like I'm watching them do like like fucking truck. Schumer
Speaker 6: is out here tweeting about how Biden deported more people
Speaker 6: than Trump did, and like the thing that this reminds
Speaker 6: me of the most is like the Chavez era of
Speaker 6: Venezuelan opposition, where every single year they would haul some
Speaker 6: dipshit out and their platform was like I'm gonna do
Speaker 6: travisl better than Chavez, and every single year they would
Speaker 6: lose by forty points.
Speaker 3: And it's like the Democrats are like those guys, those
Speaker 3: people are no fucking winners. We're going to adopt every
Speaker 3: single one of his platforms, and then we're gonna run
Speaker 3: on he's not doing it well enough, and then we're
Speaker 3: gonna get fucking annihilated in every single election until like
Speaker 3: democratic process itself simply ceases to exist. And this will
Speaker 3: be good for us somehow. This is just it's pure cope.
Speaker 3: Like the entire our, our entire economy is being supported
Speaker 3: by the just collective delusion that these people have built.
Speaker 3: But they fucked up, right. And the thing about taco
Speaker 3: and think I remember is from like the first time
Speaker 3: I about this, it was like, if this gets out,
Speaker 3: these people are fucked because Trump is going to see
Speaker 3: this and it is going to piss him off, and
Speaker 3: he's going to like like now that it's like the
Speaker 3: OK kind of thing. It's like no, no, no, Like
Speaker 3: the next the next series of tariffs is scheduled to
Speaker 3: come off. Is I'm pretty sure that China won in
Speaker 3: like the beginning of July. Could have the math wrong.
Speaker 3: I don't know, I hate math, but I'm pretty sure
Speaker 3: that's the next one.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's it's this is the thing that
Speaker 2: I'm still like questioning about and like we've talked talked
Speaker 2: about this before is like one of those thirty day
Speaker 2: deadlines for tariffs on Canada and Mexico expired. Yeah, he
Speaker 2: just forgot about that one and no one was keeping
Speaker 2: count or they were like distracted, Like I think specifically
Speaker 2: they're putting in some like European Union like tariffs like
Speaker 2: like that day and then just nothing like happy Yeah,
Speaker 2: And like I am wondering how much of that is,
Speaker 2: Like he's just gonna announce tariffs, put them on hold,
Speaker 2: and then just forget about them, but still announce new
Speaker 2: different tariffs in the future that may cover some of
Speaker 2: the same stuff.
Speaker 3: Well, so here's the thing. Here's the thing. I some
Speaker 3: of these you remember something just because so so the
Speaker 3: steel tariff doubled from twenty five ye fifty, right, and
Speaker 3: that is one of the ruling big ones, right, So
Speaker 3: I think it's it's like there are some that he
Speaker 3: like cares about and there are some that he kind
Speaker 3: of doesn't.
Speaker 2: I mean, I feel the same way when I'm getting
Speaker 2: tacos like pork tacos, no, thank you, fish tacos.
Speaker 1: Maybe I don't. I don't endorse Garson's opinion on tacos.
Speaker 3: This this taco Trump shit is like I long for
Speaker 3: the days of Orange Man Bad drump was better than this.
Speaker 3: This is this is the worst it's ever been, Like,
Speaker 3: oh god, give me comedians cutting his head off live
Speaker 3: on stage again, Like sure.
Speaker 4: Yes, that was fine.
Speaker 3: This is just like what what are we doing here?
Speaker 3: Oh my god?
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean it's really tough because cilantro prices are gonna
Speaker 2: spike to these tariffs too, so I mean we can't
Speaker 2: even call them tacos.
Speaker 1: It's okay, you know, Garrett Garrison, that's actually just good politics, right,
Speaker 1: because some people have some people have a disability where
Speaker 1: they can't test taste cilantro, not a.
Speaker 7: Disability association with previous statements. I will not be canceled
Speaker 7: by the side. Do not buy the cilantro gene. I
Speaker 7: don't think it's real. But you don't think, oh my god, Okay, okay,
Speaker 7: I don't think it's a gene.
Speaker 1: I don't think people without the salant with the cilantro
Speaker 1: taste bad gene. I don't know if we'd call them
Speaker 1: people right, if it tastes like so killed. I just
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 3: Talks talks with China have been breaking down. Both sides
Speaker 3: have been accusing each other of violating the agreement they
Speaker 3: had come to to roll the tariffs back, which they
Speaker 3: like both.
Speaker 2: Have I believe both sides on that. Actually yeah, and
Speaker 2: again this this this.
Speaker 3: Comes to like the actual fundamental structural problem of this,
Speaker 3: which is that and I think this is why a
Speaker 3: lot of people think that everything will sort of eventually
Speaker 3: go back to normal and I'll try to just sort
Speaker 3: of like bluster like I did the first time.
Speaker 2: Is it like okay?
Speaker 3: Again? Trump's actual goal here, which is to not have
Speaker 3: a trade deficit with China, is unachievable, right, There's nothing
Speaker 3: that can actually be done in order to do that,
Speaker 3: and there's no good way to claim victory either. And
Speaker 3: so what we're sort of escalating towards is July, like
Speaker 3: the one hundred and thirty percent of tariffs sort of
Speaker 3: like coming back into effect. So people are building up
Speaker 3: I think this, like I don't know, the sort of
Speaker 3: like psychological wall to the fact that this could happen again,
Speaker 3: and the fact that like these negotiations are breaking down,
Speaker 3: I think is just making it increasingly likely that it
Speaker 3: is just going to explode again. The steel tariffs also
Speaker 3: are just a shit show for a whole bunch of
Speaker 3: different manufacturing sectors. It's very bad for the US auto industry.
Speaker 3: There's already been a report on the effect of twenty
Speaker 3: five percent steel tariff has had on the construction industry.
Speaker 3: This has been tied into sort of like, oh yeah,
Speaker 3: the US is like not replenishing its housing stock because
Speaker 3: you know, but it's it's fucked, it's real bad. I
Speaker 3: don't I don't have a I don't know. I don't
Speaker 3: have a better thing to say about it than that,
Speaker 3: and that it's going to continue to get worse and
Speaker 3: at some points, probably the taco is going to be
Speaker 3: fucking over and people are going to realize that he's
Speaker 3: going to do this, and especially now they just pissed
Speaker 3: him off.
Speaker 4: Oh god, yeah, well what will they do then with
Speaker 4: their giant inflatable chicken.
Speaker 2: This is this is this is the biggest librain stuff
Speaker 2: I've ever seen.
Speaker 3: I am I am living in a world where like
Speaker 3: a group chat that I made on signal when I
Speaker 3: was a manic last year has had more policy effects
Speaker 3: on like like preserving trans healthcare in that fucking budget
Speaker 3: build and the entire Democratic Party and they are spending
Speaker 3: their money fucking like holding out chicken fucking chicken inflatable.
Speaker 1: Now, don't don't listen to me. A Democrats. For just
Speaker 1: twenty million dollars, I will guarantee you the youth vote.
Speaker 1: Not a guarantee.
Speaker 2: I propose that we renamed this segment from tariff talk
Speaker 2: to Mia Molay the next I don't know twenty.
Speaker 1: Episots garrison As a Canadian, are you allowed to use
Speaker 1: that word?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Oh, let's go on to that break before I lose
Speaker 2: my job. Okay, we are back. James Stowe, It's me.
Speaker 2: What's been going on?
Speaker 4: Hey everyone, James, it's Thursday night here and I'm just
Speaker 4: recording a little pickup to update you that the Trump
Speaker 4: administration has issued another travel ban. This travel ban bans
Speaker 4: travel or bans all new visas for people from twelve countries.
Speaker 4: One of those is Meanmar, and travelers further restricted for
Speaker 4: seven other countries. There are exemptions people who are already
Speaker 4: in the country with a valid visa. There are exemptions
Speaker 4: for Afghan people have an SIV, especially immigrant visa. There
Speaker 4: are other smaller exemptions for the Olympic Games and sporting
Speaker 4: events for example. We will do a whole episode on
Speaker 4: this because we need longer than we have to explain it.
Speaker 4: But I just wanted to make people aware that we
Speaker 4: are tracking that, planning on getting something out about it,
Speaker 4: but we don't have enough space in this episode or
Speaker 4: time to edit to address it in full. Today. Well,
Speaker 4: some things have been happening Garrison here in sunny San Diego.
Speaker 2: With from what I hear, actually great tacos.
Speaker 4: Yes, tacos are actually very good in San Diego.
Speaker 1: Yes, Oh, excellent tacos. Some of the best tacos in
Speaker 1: southern California, which is saying something.
Speaker 4: Ye, come and visit us, eat our tacos.
Speaker 1: Across the border. Get some extended release Mexican tramadol. Let
Speaker 1: me know where you are anyway, continue jym.
Speaker 4: Or tacos whatever you want to want to get across
Speaker 4: the border. So I say, gent rated Buona fot Jetta,
Speaker 4: which is a pizza place in South Buck. I used
Speaker 4: to stay like just above here. I would get late
Speaker 4: night pizza there all the time when my job was
Speaker 4: riding my bike and my hobby was drinking at Hamilton's Rip,
Speaker 4: which was a craft bn next door. In this bungled raid,
Speaker 4: they entered during a late afternoon and the evening of Friday,
Speaker 4: and ice agents soon found themselves surrounded by an angry
Speaker 4: crowd at local people, patrons from the Vegan Small Plates
Speaker 4: cocktail place across the across the street, and the brewery
Speaker 4: it's now South Park Brewing, as well as folks from
Speaker 4: the neighborhood. Right, this is one of those neighborhoods that
Speaker 4: like South Park of the concept was kind of invented
Speaker 4: by real estate agents so that it wouldn't seem like
Speaker 4: Golden Hill or Bankers Hill, and it would have like
Speaker 4: a more upmarket branding. So you have these very nice
Speaker 4: bars and restaurants, but then you also have like a
Speaker 4: laundromaut on the corner, and like a like a food market,
Speaker 4: like a non chained supermarket that serves a primarily Latino
Speaker 4: clan tel. I would imagine it's one of these very
Speaker 4: sort of like class diverse neighborhoods. I guess. But people
Speaker 4: came out en mass. They surrounded these vehicles, right, they
Speaker 4: were chanting let them go. Ittsi agents decided to defuse
Speaker 4: the situation by throwing flashbanks and then leaving with four employees.
Speaker 4: I should add here that as KPBA put it, quote,
Speaker 4: flash bangs were thrown, which is a cowardly use of
Speaker 4: the passive voice to obscure culpability.
Speaker 2: I think flash bangs spontaneously were deployed.
Speaker 4: Right yeah, right, who can say Garrison, maybe the people
Speaker 4: at the Death Metal Vegan restaurant bought the flash bangs.
Speaker 2: Well, And I also do want to say I have
Speaker 2: gotten word from some exclusive sources that these were actually
Speaker 2: secret militia members masquerading as Ice agents.
Speaker 4: Yeah, let's just fucking address it, because it's very silly.
Speaker 1: The understandable degree of it is that like they are
Speaker 1: dressing like Proud Voice now look exactly like Proud Boys
Speaker 1: in Portland in twenty nineteen, right, Like they are indistinguishable visually.
Speaker 2: Their uniform standards have like kind of gone away. They
Speaker 2: seem like they don't have standards anymore. Yes, and now
Speaker 2: they are just dressing like how Proud Voices and three
Speaker 2: Percenters used to dress.
Speaker 4: Yeah. So, like I think this kind of conspiracy theory
Speaker 4: stems from the initial MISI identification of the Ginger Ice
Speaker 4: agent who smashed someone's window as Michael Maya aka Lewis Arthur,
Speaker 4: who's the one of the veterans on patrol leaders. He
Speaker 4: was live streaming in Oklahoma at the time that that
Speaker 4: rate happened. It's not him, Yeah, it's just two people
Speaker 4: who are ginger. Ye that then it's possible that there
Speaker 4: are lots of them. Then. I've seen this in multiple
Speaker 4: other cases, often from the kind of more lib sky
Speaker 4: people you see on Blue Sky right, who seem unable
Speaker 4: to comprehend the fact that no, they are cops and
Speaker 4: they are doing evil shit, and cops do evil shit,
Speaker 4: cops can do bad things, and now cops are more likely,
Speaker 4: especially immigration officers, do not have their names on their kit. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and it's something that we saw like in Portland in
Speaker 4: twenty twenty, and it was incredibly worrying, And now it's
Speaker 4: spreading all around the entire country to the point where
Speaker 4: most most like people enacting these raids are both hiding
Speaker 4: their identities and also obscuring what agencies they are actually
Speaker 4: like from, which is why people are like concerned that
Speaker 4: you like, what if these guys aren't even from the government,
Speaker 4: what if these are just like some kind of right
Speaker 4: wing militia. And yeah, with a little bit of checking,
Speaker 4: you can usually tell that they are in fact from
Speaker 4: usually das. Yeah, I mean the California one was somewhat ridiculous, Right,
Speaker 4: there is not an exemption to the California assault weapons
Speaker 4: ban for militias. These guys had guns, which would have
Speaker 4: been about four felonies each. Yees saying people don't do
Speaker 4: felony things they do, but you'd have to be a
Speaker 4: bit of a tool to just stand on the street
Speaker 4: with your felony select fire MPX.
Speaker 1: Part of this is a very and a lot of
Speaker 1: leftists fell for this too, But this is fundament mentally
Speaker 1: rooted in a liberal delusion, which is that the danger
Speaker 1: is unaccountable groups of civilians with guns, not the police.
Speaker 1: The danger is the cops. The danger has always been
Speaker 1: the cops.
Speaker 4: Yes, we need to push back on this, right, Like
Speaker 4: the prow boys are not like the be all and
Speaker 4: end all of even but they're that sure, of course.
Speaker 1: I Like, I've had my hand broken by one. I
Speaker 1: don't like them, but I'm not as scared of them
Speaker 1: as I am of just the cops.
Speaker 4: Like, Yeah, we need to push back on this because
Speaker 4: it fundamentally misidentifies the problem. And until these people wake
Speaker 4: up and realize that they're not going to bond in
Speaker 4: the correct manner.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I mean, like, you know, one of the
Speaker 3: things that you can point out here is is like, yeah,
Speaker 3: there were a bunch of police in Nazi Germany, and
Speaker 3: the moment that they started carrying out the orders of
Speaker 3: the Nazi government, they became Nazis. Like that's that's just
Speaker 3: how this works, right, you don't get a poll a like, oh,
Speaker 3: I was just a wimart police guy, just enforcing the
Speaker 3: laws of the of the Nazi government. It's like, okay,
Speaker 3: you were you are, sir, you are a Nazi, and
Speaker 3: you are a Nazi because you are an agent of
Speaker 3: the Nazi state, not because you were like you know,
Speaker 3: you were like necessarily in some perimilitary or whatever.
Speaker 4: Like yeah, a member of the party.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like that's what happens when you work for a
Speaker 3: fascist state. So you're now a fascist.
Speaker 4: So in documents I've reviewed, Ice claimed that nineteen employees
Speaker 4: at a restaurant were using falsified green cards. They were
Speaker 4: acting on a tip from November twenty twenty, and then
Speaker 4: they received a follow up tip in late January twenty
Speaker 4: twenty five. The tip claim that many of the staff
Speaker 4: at Buonafort Jetta were undocumented, that the made them work
Speaker 4: long shifts and verbally abused them. I have seen no
Speaker 4: evidence that this is true beyond that claim. I've been
Speaker 4: to and past that restaurant hundreds of times. I've never
Speaker 4: seen anyone who looks sad to be there. But it
Speaker 4: doesn't mean that's not happening. But I've seen nothing to
Speaker 4: lead me to believe that it is beyond this claim. Right,
Speaker 4: HSI had been in communication with Bonafort Jetta's lawyer since
Speaker 4: February and they had been cooperating. Right Like Bonifot Jetter
Speaker 4: had given them these documents which they claim were fake
Speaker 4: green cards. They applied for this warrant, which they've got,
Speaker 4: an exceedingly broad warrant. One of the things that allow
Speaker 4: was for everyone inside to be detained and fingerprinted if necessary,
Speaker 4: even people who are not accused of any immigration offense. Right,
Speaker 4: people who are United States citizens weren't. Also detailed that
Speaker 4: they had been surveilling the location. City councilman Shani la
Speaker 4: Riviera called the HSI agents terrorists. In a social media post,
Speaker 4: Bill Malugan got sad about this. Stephen Miller quote tweeted
Speaker 4: Bill Milligan getting sad about this. Top Glauria came out
Speaker 4: with three paragraphs of total bullshit and continued to unabatteredly
Speaker 4: support stripping our city of all its socially beneficial services
Speaker 4: in order to direct a fire hose of our money
Speaker 4: to the cops, one of whom earned four hundred and
Speaker 4: thirty thousand dollars in twenty twenty three. Jesus what yep?
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, San Diego's highest paid public officials of cops
Speaker 4: by oh my god. Yeah, we are becoming a police
Speaker 4: department with a city attached because of Todd Gloria, someone
Speaker 4: who ran in twenty twenty on a reform agenda, right,
Speaker 4: who earns himself two hundred and fifty thousand much less.
Speaker 2: That's that's that's football coach takes, which is I thought
Speaker 2: that the Portland Police were paid too much. That's that's wild.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, this person worked and alleged three thousand hours
Speaker 4: of overtime. I believe m.
Speaker 2: It's like what scrolling scrolling TikTok in your car, Like,
Speaker 2: come on.
Speaker 1: Keep an eye, keeping an eye on kids.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah you can't you you can't be three thousand dollars.
Speaker 4: I mean someone could do three thousand divided by fifty
Speaker 4: fifty two weeks a year or whatever. Like it's it's
Speaker 4: it's an unfathomable amount of overtime.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's just fifty eight hours a week.
Speaker 4: Whoa, Yeah, so that's full time plus one and a
Speaker 4: half full time jobs, hard worker. There's a KPBS article
Speaker 4: on it. I'll link it. Multiple police officers, I guess
Speaker 4: in twenty twenty four are on track to earn over
Speaker 4: four hundred thousand dollars with the buck of it coming
Speaker 4: from overtime pay. San Diego never gets enough attention for
Speaker 4: being a complete shit show of a city, right when,
Speaker 4: like and run by the Sea is the best way
Speaker 4: I've heard it described, right, Like, our city consistently has
Speaker 4: massive corruption in scandals and nothing happens.
Speaker 1: It's it's a problem when it a place? Is that nice?
Speaker 7: Right?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Like that's really the fundamental issue is like people be like, hey,
Speaker 1: do you hear about that fucked up thing the meritd Yeah,
Speaker 1: but like look at the look at the beach.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that's yeah, that's literally the csis of
Speaker 4: Under the Perfect Son. Yeah. She's a book that should be, uh,
Speaker 4: should be obligatory if you want to move to San Diego.
Speaker 4: I think it's one of the one of the earlier
Speaker 4: Mike Davis books. But against San Diego, a place where
Speaker 4: the politics are bad. It's also what happens when everyone
Speaker 4: votes them no matter what.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 1: Also, people, in general, if you want to understand why
Speaker 1: southern California be like a do read read Mike Davis.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, in general, just read just read Mike Davis.
Speaker 1: Actually, wherever you are read some Mike Davis.
Speaker 4: Yep, I seems to have used I want to get
Speaker 4: into this because I think this is an important issue
Speaker 4: that hasn't been raised any coverage. I see I seem
Speaker 4: to have used AB sixty driver's licenses to identify the
Speaker 4: people in Bonna fot jetter or at least use California
Speaker 4: DMV documents of some kind.
Speaker 3: Jesus.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So there's this misunderstanding. People think that if you
Speaker 4: have a driver's license in California that information is an
Speaker 4: excessible to immigration and that's not true. AB sixty licenses.
Speaker 4: So that's Assembly Bill sixty, right, California piece of law
Speaker 4: allow people to get a license without having legal immigration status.
Speaker 4: This is a good thing. It means that undocumented people
Speaker 4: are less likely to drive unlicensed and uninsured, right, and
Speaker 4: therefore it means that people are likely to stay at
Speaker 4: the scene of car accidents, and people who getting car
Speaker 4: accidents to likely covered by insurance. Right, I've been hit
Speaker 4: by an unsure driver. It fucking sucks. Oh yeah. DHS
Speaker 4: cannot access information on whose license is an AB sixty license,
Speaker 4: but they can access through a variety of databases and
Speaker 4: mechanisms other DMV data, which may include things like photographs, addresses,
Speaker 4: or thumb prints. So in this case, they were able
Speaker 4: to look at the fake green card and then look
Speaker 4: at other data, both in in federal and local databases
Speaker 4: for various things. And some of these people had overstayed
Speaker 4: visas there claiming right be like, okay, well we found
Speaker 4: a guy with this name and this date of birth,
Speaker 4: but the person has a minished a green card that
Speaker 4: that's their claim, right, and the same with the driver's
Speaker 4: license database. So obviously, just to finish up on that thought,
Speaker 4: I guess this disincentivizes people from doing the thing which
Speaker 4: I've just said is good, which is getting a driver's license. Right,
Speaker 4: It disincentivizes I mean, I'm seeing things from students right
Speaker 4: now being afraid of going to their own graduations, being
Speaker 4: afraid of having their parents at their own graduation.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 4: This was like two blocks from a school. Fucking chicken,
Speaker 4: do not she's on top of the fence. Sorry, I'm
Speaker 4: just going to really's going to fucking get out?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, please chick and break.
Speaker 3: I really, I really truly thought that that was part
Speaker 3: of the sentence, and I was trying to process in
Speaker 3: my brain what.
Speaker 2: The fuck is going on?
Speaker 4: That's all right, we're back. Did you none command?
Speaker 2: Did you pick up the chicken? Could you say that
Speaker 2: you were kind of a chicken? Cky?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: Everyone, no, no, just another thirty seconds of silence, everybody,
Speaker 1: let's really give that it's due.
Speaker 4: Anyone got a gong that we could find?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 4: No, all right, pouring one out for Garrison. So to
Speaker 4: finish up right now, both Bonifort Jetta locations are closed.
Speaker 4: They GoFundMe for the impacted employees and their families has
Speaker 4: already hit twice its goal one hundred and twenty thousand dollars.
Speaker 4: As I've said, there have been on suggestions which, as
Speaker 4: far as I'm were unfounded, that a restaurant forced and
Speaker 4: documented employees to work long hours. It doesn't matter, right,
Speaker 4: even if they did, you shouldn't be punishing the people
Speaker 4: who are being In theory, abused, right, I don't understand
Speaker 4: how you get to that logic. And even if that
Speaker 4: is the case, like having ice available on call to
Speaker 4: deport your employees only plays into the hands for a
Speaker 4: bosses who don't want to pay people, right, they can
Speaker 4: just call us instead. This is a tactic that's been
Speaker 4: used for decades and anto migrants. So yeah, that's what
Speaker 4: I got. Good times, good times in San Diego.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, we're gonna talk about this more in another episode.
Speaker 3: There was also a rage in Minneapolis that you know,
Speaker 3: there's like thirty agents out multi agency raid and like
Speaker 3: a hundred people just showed up and got them to
Speaker 3: fuck off, and they didn't end up arresting anybody. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I think, well, so I think that they arrest all
Speaker 3: the protesters, but like they didn't end up attaining anything.
Speaker 2: They did not detain the people they were going after.
Speaker 3: It stopt them. Yeah, and there's there's there's this great
Speaker 3: line that fucking every single person from Minneapolis who I
Speaker 3: know now is is quoting where one of the people
Speaker 3: who got interviewed in Sahan Journal said that's Minneapolis, baby,
Speaker 3: we pull up, so you too could pull up and
Speaker 3: stop these fucking you see four cowards. You can stop
Speaker 3: them now. Speaking of incredible cowardice. One of the things
Speaker 3: that's been happening on a sort of another immigration front
Speaker 3: is the US is attenn to revoke student visas for
Speaker 3: Chinese international students. We don't actually know what this means
Speaker 3: yet and what it's going to look like. All they've
Speaker 3: said is that they're working to aggressively to revoke visas.
Speaker 3: As a direct quote from them, and this this was
Speaker 3: from Marco Rubio on fucking whatever social media app and
Speaker 3: you guys, I'll say, quote, we will revise visa criteria
Speaker 3: to enhance scrutiny of all future visa applications from the
Speaker 3: People's of Public of China and Hong Kong. So fucking
Speaker 3: rip all of the Hong Kong liberals who supported Trump. Yeah,
Speaker 3: bad shiit. No one knows exactly what this is going
Speaker 3: to mean. I've seen speculation that this could be a
Speaker 3: full ban. That's what Stephen Miller has wanted for a
Speaker 3: long time. I don't know if that's going to happen.
Speaker 3: They've been talking about like quote unquote critical fields like
Speaker 3: stem stuff. It could also be a you know, the
Speaker 3: persific language they're be using as like anyone who's linked
Speaker 3: to the Communist Party. That's a lot in what set me?
Speaker 3: Yet who the fuck knows? Right, Like, you know, like
Speaker 3: there's some of these people are the kids of like
Speaker 3: Chinese companies, partaby members, but like there are that's like
Speaker 3: seven percent of the population of China, right, Like that's
Speaker 3: a lot of people, and then linked can be fucking anything,
Speaker 3: right Like, yeah, you know, so no one is entirely
Speaker 3: sure what this means yet. I my guess is that
Speaker 3: it's going to be combined with the other horrible things
Speaker 3: they'm be doing right now, which that they've suspended visits
Speaker 3: like consular visits to get student visas while they try
Speaker 3: to figure out how to like do this like implement
Speaker 3: this new social media policy where they want to just effectively,
Speaker 3: what it looks like they want to do is just
Speaker 3: like if you've posted about Palestine, they deny your student visa.
Speaker 3: That seems like the thing that they're trying to put
Speaker 3: in place, yet they haven't yet. My guess is that
Speaker 3: these two are going to end up being linked, and
Speaker 3: they're gonna and that that's gonna be what they're doing.
Speaker 3: It could also just be some sort of large scale
Speaker 3: of rollback of student visas for Chinese international students here,
Speaker 3: Chinese and national students have been targeted under so many
Speaker 3: goddamn administrations now, it's fucking horrible. These are just like people.
Speaker 3: It's interesting because when you read media accounts of this,
Speaker 3: a lot of them will be like, well, people aren't
Speaker 3: that Like, we're not that scared. That's okay. It's like, well, no,
Speaker 3: you you are talking to the people who are stupid
Speaker 3: enough to talk to an American journalist, right, most people
Speaker 3: just say no because they're genuine. Is like creating an
Speaker 3: atmosphere or fucking terror where people don't want to people
Speaker 3: don't want to speak out about it. And this and
Speaker 3: this has been something that's been used to like write
Speaker 3: grad student unions, you know, like these over the years.
Speaker 3: This is this has been a kind of repression. It's
Speaker 3: very useful. This is also I think part of their
Speaker 3: of just the broader war against higher education because a
Speaker 3: lot of Chinese international students like come in on full tuition,
Speaker 3: so they're paying for a large percentage of like a
Speaker 3: bunch of university budgets. But yeah, we will, we will,
Speaker 3: we will keep you informed as to what this actually
Speaker 3: looks like. That's what we know about it for now.
Speaker 3: It fucking sucks.
Speaker 2: Let's end with some semi good news. I guess we
Speaker 2: will return into my horribly named segment Stinky Musk. Oh god, Hey,
Speaker 2: this is Gere from the Future, just cutting in here
Speaker 2: at the beginning because help boy. In the twenty four
Speaker 2: hours after we recorded this initial segment, there has been
Speaker 2: substantial developments in the Elon Mussdnald Trump breakup story. It
Speaker 2: is getting quite ugly out there, folks. The girls are
Speaker 2: fighting Diva down jd Vance is hiding in the closet
Speaker 2: as the parents are screaming down the hallway. It is
Speaker 2: getting quite ugly. Trump's gotten rid of the electric vehicle
Speaker 2: mandate and is threatening to terminate Elon's government subsidies and contracts. Meanwhile,
Speaker 2: Elon Musk is talking about how Donald Trump is in
Speaker 2: the Epstein files, like duh, Like we don't already know this,
Speaker 2: but for some reason, this is blowing the minds of
Speaker 2: people like Alex Jones, who are now crashing out on
Speaker 2: the timeline. Huge, huge shakeups in the Mega world, with
Speaker 2: some people trying to cope claiming that this is a
Speaker 2: five D chess move and that Elon and and Trump
Speaker 2: are gonna come back to get in the end, which
Speaker 2: is completely absurd. This is a huge shift in the
Speaker 2: power balance in the New Right. We will be doing
Speaker 2: a whole new piece in the near future on the
Speaker 2: Elon Musk Donald Trump breakup story and how it will
Speaker 2: affect the Republican Party. But the following segment, which we
Speaker 2: recorded on Wednesday, will essentially outline how we got right
Speaker 2: up to this point, all of these slow microaggressions and
Speaker 2: fractures that led to this much more explosive breakup. So
Speaker 2: enjoy that and keep your ears peeled for a future
Speaker 2: piece on Elon Musker donald Trump's messy situation shift. So
Speaker 2: Elon Musk donald Trump are now officially in their messy
Speaker 2: breakup phase where they're both trying to kind of play
Speaker 2: it cool, but resentment is clearly bubbling. So after report
Speaker 2: surfaced about the growing rift between Musk and Trump, the
Speaker 2: White House gave Musk one last farewell hurrah on Friday
Speaker 2: May thirtieth wear, Musk, sporting a black eye and a
Speaker 2: T shirt reading the Doge Father, was gifted a gold
Speaker 2: key to the White House by Donald Trump. A day later,
Speaker 2: Trump withdrew the nomination of Musk ally Jared Isaacman as
Speaker 2: NASA administrator, so as Musk's Special Government employee designation expired,
Speaker 2: nothing was renewed. They did not try to push him
Speaker 2: through as an more permanent advisor. He is essentially getting
Speaker 2: the soft boot. According to Axios, Musk had asked the
Speaker 2: White House about staying on as an advisor past the
Speaker 2: one hundred and thirty day Special Government employee threshold, but
Speaker 2: that was denied. Now, Musk has been reportedly disillusioned by
Speaker 2: the Wisconsin election and the unexpected difficulty in pushing through
Speaker 2: some of his DOGE cuts, along with the growing frustration
Speaker 2: regarding the Liberation Day tariffs which affect his businesses. To
Speaker 2: add to the tension, according to The New York Times,
Speaker 2: Musk has been upset that Trump has been negotiating deals
Speaker 2: with open AI instead of Musk's own competitor, Grock God.
Speaker 2: In late May, Musk posted on x the everything app
Speaker 2: quote back to spending twenty four to seven at work,
Speaker 2: I must be super focused on x slash x AI
Speaker 2: and TESLA.
Speaker 4: Well, to be fair, Garrison, have you seen GPT ever
Speaker 4: speaking in the style of Jajar Binks in such a convincing.
Speaker 2: You know that is true? Usp right there, Yeah, not well,
Speaker 2: talking about the plight of the bores. So as Musk
Speaker 2: was preparing to exit the White House, he began airing
Speaker 2: his beef with the new big, beautiful budget bill. Quote.
Speaker 2: I think a bill can be big or it can
Speaker 2: be beautiful, but I don't know if it can be both,
Speaker 2: telling CBS News quote, I was disappointed to see the
Speaker 2: massive spending bill, frankly, which increases the budget deficit, not
Speaker 2: just decreases it, and undermines the work that the Doge
Speaker 2: team is doing unquote. After this, Steven Miller started subtweeting
Speaker 2: Musk on X the Everything app outline the different types
Speaker 2: of cuts that Doge can make versus reconciliation bills can make,
Speaker 2: and defendant the big beautiful bill, calling it quote the
Speaker 2: single largest welfare reform in American history, along with the
Speaker 2: largest tax cut reform in American history, the most aggressive
Speaker 2: energy expiration in American history, and the strongest border bill
Speaker 2: in American history, all while reducing the deficit unquote, which
Speaker 2: it does not do. It does not reduce the deficit.
Speaker 2: But now that Musk's White House exit has been more solidified,
Speaker 2: Musk's animosity towards Trump's main palsy bill has just skyrocketed,
Speaker 2: posting on June third on x Everything app, I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: but I just can't stay to anymore. This massive, outrageous,
Speaker 2: pork filled congressional spending bill is a disgusting abomination. Shame
Speaker 2: on those who voted for it. You know you did wrong.
Speaker 2: You know it. Similarly, Stephen Miller has also been crashing
Speaker 2: out on the timeline attempt to defend the bill and
Speaker 2: push back on Musk's attacks in a flurry of tweets,
Speaker 2: one of which reads, quote the big Beautiful budshet bill
Speaker 2: will increase by orders of magnitude the scope, scale, and
Speaker 2: speed of removing illegal and criminal aliens from the United States.
Speaker 2: For that reason alone, is the most essential piece of
Speaker 2: legislation currently under construction in the entire Western world in generations. Wow,
Speaker 2: now Steven seems pretty worked up, And I think this
Speaker 2: could actually have to do not just about Musk's tweets,
Speaker 2: but also maybe about Steven's own personal life, because yeah,
Speaker 2: Steven's animosity could relate to the fact that Musk seems
Speaker 2: to be stealing Stephen Miller's own Katie Miller. Katie Miller
Speaker 2: was working in a top position at Dome as a
Speaker 2: special government employee, and now that her designation has also expired,
Speaker 2: she is leaving the government to continue working with Musk
Speaker 2: full time, including arranging Musk's own an interview appearances. It
Speaker 2: is not looking great, folks. The cock chair is getting warmed.
Speaker 2: I am not thrilled about Elon Musk possibly having a
Speaker 2: baby with Stephen Miller's knife. This is really dark timeline.
Speaker 1: I think all of them should be doing better, different different.
Speaker 2: I certainly can critique the way polyamory functions in in
Speaker 2: you know, and leftist anarchist faces. This is the most toxic. Yeah.
Speaker 3: This this is a night of wrong wives too, and
Speaker 3: hopefully it ends up for all of these motherfuckers like
Speaker 3: it did for him buch So.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Stephen Miller went on TV last week to like
Speaker 2: talk about how much he cares about his family.
Speaker 1: It's it's such, it's such good timing.
Speaker 2: It's really dark for him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you marry Stephen Miller, it's because you're you're
Speaker 1: both the same kind of evil and if that's the
Speaker 1: kind of person you are, Elon Musk is going to
Speaker 1: give you more opportunities to be the kind of evil
Speaker 1: you want to be.
Speaker 2: It's right, just like this is like I can't just
Speaker 2: tell if Musk is an upgrade or a lateral move
Speaker 2: from Stephen Miller. It's really tough to say.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is very funny, but yeah, that is.
Speaker 2: This is one of the you know, last bits in
Speaker 2: the White House Sea Land Musk saga. He really tried
Speaker 2: to like push forward this this this doge to retire
Speaker 2: all government employees' agenda, and it ran into way more
Speaker 2: roadblocks than what he was expecting. And he seems really
Speaker 2: upset about that. And now he has to return to
Speaker 2: the private sector to save it's failing businesses, which have
Speaker 2: only started to fail more now that he damaged an
Speaker 2: already kind of uh a troubling reputation the past few months. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So yeah, that is the update on on Elon Musk.
Speaker 1: Awesome, Well, everybody, we reported the news. I love reporting
Speaker 1: the news and that you did it.
Speaker 4: Goodbye, we reported the news.
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