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Speaker 1: Welcome into the lounge presented by DraftKings. We have put

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Speaker 1: together our off season blueprint for the Ravens twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: three offseason. We're gonna get this laminated. We're gonna deliver

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Speaker 1: it to Eric DaCosta. He's gonna say thank you very much, guys,

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Speaker 1: you've solved all of my problems. Uh, work's done. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know. And so the lamination is the key. Oh,

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Speaker 1: if it's not laminated, it's not real. Yes, yeah, come on,

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Speaker 1: it's nice, like thick, nice cardstock. We'll make it nice. Okay,

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Speaker 1: before we get deliver it to him, we'll deliver it

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Speaker 1: to the fans, yes, to listeners. So it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: a busy off season. There's a lot of things to

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Speaker 1: figure out, a lot of moving pieces, obviously Lamar being

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Speaker 1: the by far the biggest um. And so we're gonna

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Speaker 1: kind of go through this step by step chronologically, right, Like,

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Speaker 1: these are the decisions the Ravens have to make in

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Speaker 1: building this team, which I think, you know, John Harbor

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Speaker 1: and Eric DaCosta said in the press conference season ending

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Speaker 1: rep press conference, they feel like they're pretty close to

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Speaker 1: building a champion, And I agree, Like when you go

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Speaker 1: through these decisions, I don't think, you know, Lamar side,

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Speaker 1: that's obviously a huge one that has a huge ripple

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Speaker 1: effect on everything. Like this team is well set up already,

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Speaker 1: They're in good position, and it's it's kind of tweaking

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Speaker 1: it to get over that hump, right, And so I agree.

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Speaker 1: I also think that I've been with the Ravens since

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Speaker 1: twenty eleven, and this, to me is probably the most

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Speaker 1: interesting offseason, well of that entire time. Now, now, maybe

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Speaker 1: after twenty twelve, after the Super Bowl where Joe Flacco

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Speaker 1: was a free agent, was the other one, you know,

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Speaker 1: that was probably the most comparable, you know, and that

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Speaker 1: you have this guy who's a first round pick and

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Speaker 1: your franchise quarterback. Now, Joe, we just won a super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: There was there weren't all the questions surrounding Joe that

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Speaker 1: there is this selfseason with them. There there weren't. But

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Speaker 1: I do actually remember, like I remember Rack that year

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Speaker 1: being at the combine and talking to people and like

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Speaker 1: some of the questions that we're going to talk through today,

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Speaker 1: franchise tag, exclusive, tag, non exclusive tag, like some of

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Speaker 1: that stuff was like it wasn't as I guess mainstream

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Speaker 1: as the conversations around Lamar. And also part of that's

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Speaker 1: probably because Lamar sits like dynamic player who has won

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Speaker 1: an MVP. But I mean, Joey just wanted a Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl MVP that year. So so anyway, it's just I

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Speaker 1: think this is the most interesting offseason in a long time,

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Speaker 1: and maybe the most interesting offseason that you know, most

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Speaker 1: Ravens fans have ever seen. Yeah, I agree with that,

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Speaker 1: all right, So let's start out here. The salary cap.

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Speaker 1: A lot of this stuff is projections. People don't it

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Speaker 1: hasn't been set yet, right, but the projected salary cap

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Speaker 1: is going to be right around two hundred and twenty

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Speaker 1: five million dollars. This is we'll give a shout out

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Speaker 1: here before we get to free agencies. We want to

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Speaker 1: just I'm sorry, back back, sorry, got ahead of a

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Speaker 1: back it up. First decision that needs to be made

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Speaker 1: his offense coordinator. Yeah, okay, we don't. We don't have

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Speaker 1: a decision on that yet. You know, the Ravens have

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Speaker 1: reportedly done a bunch of interviews, but we're waiting. That's correct.

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Speaker 1: And also I don't know if that decision, like will

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Speaker 1: know that it's you know, I think that like if

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Speaker 1: that point. That's exactly right, so that you know, I

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Speaker 1: don't think that has that decision. I don't think plays

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Speaker 1: a lot into the roster makeup, like the following roster decisions.

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Speaker 1: I don't think because they want to upgrade the passing

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Speaker 1: You know, obviously your offensive coordinator is going to have

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Speaker 1: ideas of how they want their scheme that they want

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Speaker 1: you know that capable of deploying that scheme, right, But

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't think it has that big of

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Speaker 1: I don't know that it's massive. I think that it has.

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Speaker 1: I think that that could kind of give you an

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Speaker 1: don't know which direction the Ravens are going to go there.

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Speaker 1: I I agree with you. I don't think it's massive

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Speaker 1: up hiring for that role. They're going to be looking

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Speaker 1: Ravens build out this offseason roadmap. I agree. All right,

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Speaker 1: So now back to where I was free agency, free agency.

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Speaker 1: This is kind of pre free agency. So you gotta

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Speaker 1: set the table right where the salary cap is right,

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Speaker 1: as I said, around two hundred and twenty five million

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Speaker 1: McFarland of Russell Street Report, who's kind of the resident

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Speaker 1: salary cap guru. Yes, media salary cap guru, So thank

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Speaker 1: you very much, Brian. If you haven't checked out his work,

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Speaker 1: head over to Russell Street Reports to do so. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he educates a lot of us this kind of stuff.

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Speaker 1: So it's good stuff. So let's just figure if you're

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Speaker 1: the estimated cap, the Ravens initially have around thirty five

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Speaker 1: under contract. Yeah, right, so you build out a full

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Speaker 1: And a lot of those contracts obviously aren't the big

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Speaker 1: lot of teams, which is true. Well, he meant you

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Speaker 1: talked about Joe Flacco. He said, we couldn't really, we

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Speaker 1: weren't in a position where we could franchise Joe Flacco

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Speaker 1: breaking contracts. So it's they're in a different position right now. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: That's often how it works. You know, they have a

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Speaker 1: the expectation, and Eric's Acosta has said this over his

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Speaker 1: have structured contracts more in that way. Yeah. But and

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Speaker 1: it just gets like, I think a lot of fans

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Speaker 1: ahead and explain what the differences. So the exclusive franchise

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Speaker 1: another year at least, right, No, he can't negotiate with

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Speaker 1: under the Ravens control for another year, right in which

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Speaker 1: they could still work out a long term deal after

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Speaker 1: they put the exclusive franchise tag on them, but it

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Speaker 1: at a higher price. The price of the franchise exclusive

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Speaker 1: a costly thing, but it means Lamar Jackson absolutely one

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Speaker 1: up much over the top this year. They were just

427
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Speaker 1: a good defense, good secondary. Chuck Clark is a big

428
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Speaker 1: part of that. He comes at the six point two

429
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Speaker 1: million dollar cap hit. If they were to release him,

430
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Speaker 1: they basically saved three and a half million dollars. So

431
00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:57,320
Speaker 1: it's not a massive savings, like when you compare it

432
00:20:57,359 --> 00:21:01,360
Speaker 1: to you know, Calais, it's not a massive savings. But

433
00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:04,760
Speaker 1: the Ravens also have a lot of depth in that secondary, right,

434
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Speaker 1: obviously they're deep at safety, right, So you know, Geno

435
00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:12,240
Speaker 1: Stone even stepped in this year and played well when

436
00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:15,679
Speaker 1: Marcus Williams was sidelined with his wrist injury. And then

437
00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:17,879
Speaker 1: the big question is Kyle Hamilton, right. I mean I

438
00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:20,840
Speaker 1: think when the Ravens drafted Kyle Hamilton's fourteenth overall last year,

439
00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:23,879
Speaker 1: the expectation was kind of, you know, is Chuck can

440
00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:29,320
Speaker 1: to go elsewhere? Yeah, and the Ravens insteads, you know,

441
00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:32,359
Speaker 1: valued kept him around, and obviously he played well and

442
00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:37,440
Speaker 1: they used the three safety rotation. Kyle Hamilton mostly played

443
00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:39,080
Speaker 1: in the slot. You know, That's kind of where he

444
00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:42,160
Speaker 1: settled it in midway through the year and flourished in

445
00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:45,639
Speaker 1: that spot. The question is whether Kyle Hamilton is ready

446
00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:49,480
Speaker 1: to take over that kind of Chuck Clark role, yeah,

447
00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:54,360
Speaker 1: in this defense. And you know, I think that will

448
00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:57,040
Speaker 1: be a decision the coaches and the front office have

449
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Speaker 1: to make whether he's ready to be plugged in there

450
00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:01,240
Speaker 1: or whether they say, you know what, we really liked

451
00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:03,160
Speaker 1: how it worked this past year. We want to keep

452
00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:06,959
Speaker 1: him in that kind of role. Right. So, you know,

453
00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:11,080
Speaker 1: I think that Marcus, I'm sorry that Kyle Hamilton proved

454
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Speaker 1: like you know he can. Is he gonna be a

455
00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:17,600
Speaker 1: Marcus Williams over the top free safety, I don't know.

456
00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:20,960
Speaker 1: But he's really good. He's a good blitzer, he's good

457
00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:22,920
Speaker 1: in the box. He's a hard hitter, he's physical player,

458
00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:25,439
Speaker 1: he can match up against tight ends. Like it is

459
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Speaker 1: that enough and you're not? Really? I mean, how many

460
00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:31,240
Speaker 1: times do you ask Chuck Clark to shadow a guy

461
00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:33,240
Speaker 1: one on one and keep down the field? Not a ton,

462
00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:37,200
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? So, like, I think Kyle

463
00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:40,359
Speaker 1: Hamilton's showed me that he has the skill set to

464
00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:43,160
Speaker 1: play that position, but when he was so good playing

465
00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:45,159
Speaker 1: in the slide, it's hard to then move on from

466
00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:48,520
Speaker 1: Chuck and take Kyle out of position. Yeah. I always

467
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Speaker 1: have a hard time, like when you have basically something

468
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Speaker 1: that's working well in a position of strength and being like,

469
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Speaker 1: you know what, like we are going to take this

470
00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:58,159
Speaker 1: position of strength and this three safety defense that we

471
00:22:58,200 --> 00:22:59,639
Speaker 1: felt like was working great at the end of the

472
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Speaker 1: year and now remove an element. It's almost if it

473
00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,719
Speaker 1: ain't broke, don't fix it, right, But it's like, but

474
00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:09,439
Speaker 1: if it's it's not broke, but it's expensively right, But

475
00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:11,720
Speaker 1: there's business decisions, and like Chuck knows that. You know,

476
00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:14,600
Speaker 1: he was pretty pretty clear about that at the end

477
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Speaker 1: of the year, you know, at his locker he said,

478
00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:19,199
Speaker 1: I don't know what the future holds, whether I'm going

479
00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:21,159
Speaker 1: to be here or not. You know, he didn't know.

480
00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:26,920
Speaker 1: So that's another really difficult decision. I have another. I

481
00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,400
Speaker 1: also have a hard time seeing how that one plays out,

482
00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:31,359
Speaker 1: to be honest, like you said three and a half,

483
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Speaker 1: I think it depends on how tight they are, you know,

484
00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:36,960
Speaker 1: what happens with Lamar. Is he on the exclusive non exclusive?

485
00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 1: Like if he's on the exclusive, I think it's probably

486
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Speaker 1: it's gonna be really hard because they're, as we said,

487
00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:44,760
Speaker 1: they're on the red. Yeah, you know, if they have

488
00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:47,280
Speaker 1: a little bit more of a wiggle room then he is.

489
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't label Chuck as a luxury, but like he's

490
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Speaker 1: somebody I would keep if you have enough room to

491
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Speaker 1: do so, Yeah, you know what I mean, Like he

492
00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:56,840
Speaker 1: makes your defense better. Yeah, And I think it also,

493
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Speaker 1: like I don't know, I just always the past few

494
00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,400
Speaker 1: years and all the injuries that the Ravens have delt

495
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:06,760
Speaker 1: been handed in the secondary exactly. I don't like basically

496
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Speaker 1: putting the secondary in a position where all of a a

497
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,320
Speaker 1: sudden it can be shorthanded well, and Kyle Ry Kyle

498
00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:13,199
Speaker 1: is essentially like another corner. He's a slot essentially like

499
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:16,119
Speaker 1: a slot corner who also obviously play can play safety.

500
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:17,959
Speaker 1: It's just like there's a lot of guys that are

501
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,119
Speaker 1: kind of because Geno Stone can step in and play safety,

502
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:22,760
Speaker 1: Kyle could potentially play safety, or that slot Brandon Stevens

503
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:25,959
Speaker 1: could play a slot role, could also play safety. So

504
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,680
Speaker 1: like you just kind of have like there's a number

505
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 1: of guys who could could do that. And so that's

506
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Speaker 1: why I think the Ravens are in the situation where

507
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Speaker 1: they have to make this tough decision. But like, if

508
00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:37,880
Speaker 1: the Ravens can find a way to make it work,

509
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Speaker 1: I would love to keep Chuck here. And maybe there's

510
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Speaker 1: maybe the two sides come of an agreement where the

511
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Speaker 1: cap figures is a little bit less um and maybe

512
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Speaker 1: they that's the way that they go that it's not

513
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Speaker 1: that number, but they reduce that to some degree. Yeah,

514
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Speaker 1: I mean, maybe they could explore that. Um. I think

515
00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,520
Speaker 1: it's hard, you know, considering Chuck just played all seventeen

516
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Speaker 1: games and played well for him of course, and he

517
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Speaker 1: may say no, thank you exactly. Yeah, I'm good on

518
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:06,480
Speaker 1: that exactly right. So, uh, the other guy's Gus Edwards,

519
00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:09,959
Speaker 1: and he has a five point six million dollar cap hit.

520
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:11,679
Speaker 1: The Ravens, if they were to part ways with him,

521
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:16,280
Speaker 1: would say four four point four million dollars um. That's

522
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:21,359
Speaker 1: a fairly large number. Gus came back strong, I mean

523
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,679
Speaker 1: the Gus, the Gus bus was rolling, right. I like Gus.

524
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Speaker 1: I think the one two punch with JK Dobbins is

525
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,560
Speaker 1: really good. I think JK Dobbins is looking to have

526
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Speaker 1: get more punches in that one time, right. Like part

527
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Speaker 1: of the question here is like, all right, are we

528
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Speaker 1: gonna Is JK gonna be the clear number one lead

529
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Speaker 1: dog the Ravens. I think I saw some stat where

530
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Speaker 1: like at the bottom of the league in terms of

531
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Speaker 1: if you're talking evaluating teams of who had a bell

532
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,760
Speaker 1: cow number one, yeah, and where it was spread evenly

533
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Speaker 1: among the running backs, the Ravens were like they were

534
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Speaker 1: number thirty two yeah, yeah, which come on? I mean

535
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Speaker 1: JK Dobbins, like didn't play for half a seasons, was

536
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Speaker 1: limited like us that number exactly. But even when gust

537
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,440
Speaker 1: and JK were on the field, it was generally a

538
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 1: fairly even split. Yeah, it was kind of game by game,

539
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:12,159
Speaker 1: but I would not be surprised if, considering what we

540
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:15,479
Speaker 1: saw from JK Dobbins this year, if JK takes on

541
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Speaker 1: more of a lead number one rule next year. I

542
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Speaker 1: agree with you. I you know, we kind of talked

543
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:24,560
Speaker 1: about the offensive coordinator and the offense that the Ravens

544
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:27,159
Speaker 1: want to run. I don't think the running game's going away.

545
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:29,640
Speaker 1: I think that they are going to still be a

546
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Speaker 1: team that, from an identity standpoint, wants to be among

547
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Speaker 1: the best running teams in the NFL. Top five rushing attack. Now,

548
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,479
Speaker 1: maybe the quarterback runs become a smaller piece of the offense.

549
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 1: But even if that's the case, with the scheme and

550
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:46,600
Speaker 1: the backs that they have, the Ravens want to be

551
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:48,399
Speaker 1: a top five rushing team. So you don't want to

552
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 1: be thin at running back. I don't want to be

553
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:54,400
Speaker 1: thin a running back, especially especially when then you're basically

554
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 1: putting all your eggs in the JK basket. And I

555
00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 1: think JK is going to have a monster season, but

556
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 1: like he still is coming. He still had a major

557
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,199
Speaker 1: knee injury and then a scope in the middle of

558
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 1: the season to just be like, okay, we're just gonna

559
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:11,159
Speaker 1: go all in on on assuming that he's going to

560
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 1: be able to be a bell call for seventeen games.

561
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 1: Is like, that's a risk, And then you know, I

562
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 1: don't like this game we're going through, and it's like

563
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:20,679
Speaker 1: some of these guys, I'm like, I don't want to

564
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 1: lose Chuck Clark, I don't want to lose Kalash. I

565
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 1: don't want to lose gush like. And then that's the

566
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 1: decision that the Ravens have to make when you get

567
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:29,480
Speaker 1: into some of the dollars and cents, and you know

568
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:31,880
Speaker 1: that when you when you talk about franchising a quarterback,

569
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 1: those are the tough decisions that you have to make. Well, yeah,

570
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 1: and you look at I mean, I thought Kenyan Drake

571
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:38,399
Speaker 1: stepped up and played pretty well this year. He's an

572
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 1: understrictor free agent, Justice Hill, you know, he flashed at

573
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,399
Speaker 1: times undrestricted free agent. So you know, if you were

574
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:46,160
Speaker 1: to part ways with Gus all of a sudden, it's

575
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 1: JK and who else. You got a mpty back, you

576
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 1: got an empty running backs room that you have to

577
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 1: build out. So you know, then you're looking at we're

578
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:55,680
Speaker 1: using a draft pick on that it's probably not gonna

579
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 1: be a first round pick, you know, is it going

580
00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:59,200
Speaker 1: to be a third round pick? You know, we don't.

581
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 1: The Ravens only have five draft picks. Yeah, you have

582
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 1: much multiple needs. Is running back? Is that that important

583
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 1: that you want to use a draft pick on that position?

584
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:09,440
Speaker 1: Maybe it is? You know, um, they could use the

585
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 1: third round pick on a running back. Um, yeah, for

586
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 1: teeth that wants to run the ball as much of

587
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 1: the Ravens dost part ways with a proven, established guy

588
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:22,159
Speaker 1: who fits what the Ravens do so well. He's a

589
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:25,639
Speaker 1: great compliment to JK Albins, I think, Yeah, I just

590
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 1: think those two guys work so well in tandem. Again,

591
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 1: I think it depends on how much room they have. Yeah, right,

592
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 1: if you have to get out of the red, you

593
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 1: might have to make some tough decisions that you don't

594
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 1: want to make, all right. So the next one is,

595
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 1: you know, the Ravens have these understrict free agents that

596
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 1: will uh they have to decide, are that we're going

597
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 1: to bring them back before they hit the market, you know,

598
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 1: do they hit the open market. We let them hit

599
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 1: their market, they see what their market is out there,

600
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 1: and then maybe they they're still ultimately as a return

601
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 1: that happened last year with pat Riccard for example, um

602
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 1: and some of those guys, I think, really the three

603
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 1: guys at the top of the list, or Marcus Peters,

604
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 1: Justin Houston, and Ben Powers. Let's go through those guys.

605
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 1: Want to each guy at a time, what's gosh one

606
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 1: at a time, my goodness, gracious, one at a time,

607
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 1: and kind of break that down. Well you want to

608
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 1: start with I think maybe the easiest one, Ben Powers.

609
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 1: I think Ben Powers has pressed himself out. I would agree.

610
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna get a nice contract. Kudos to him.

611
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,959
Speaker 1: I mean, this is a guy who nobody really honestly

612
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 1: gave as much of a shot to end up winning

613
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 1: the starting job. Like everyone was like, it's gonna be

614
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 1: Ben Cleveland, it's gonna be McCarry. I don't know, maybe

615
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 1: Ben Tyree Phillips. You know, it's like when you start,

616
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 1: like when we were when we were having this conversation

617
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:41,560
Speaker 1: in April and at the start of training camp, it

618
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 1: was like, I don't know if Ben Powers is gonna

619
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 1: win the job, right, Is he gonna make the team. Yeah,

620
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 1: And so now now he traded or something, right, ends

621
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 1: up playing really high level and I just you know,

622
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 1: credit to him for earning a nice pay day. When

623
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Speaker 1: Eric to Coss, I believe it was or Harves said,

624
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 1: you know, he was the most improved player. He was

625
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 1: probably the most improved player on the team over the

626
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 1: course of the year, says something. Yeah, I think he's

627
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 1: priced himself out. I would agree with that. Uh so

628
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:07,719
Speaker 1: comp pick. Congratulations Ben, Yeah, on setting your career up

629
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Speaker 1: from you and your family and uh, you know, I

630
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 1: hope there's a way, but I don't. I also don't

631
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 1: see it happening the Ravens cap situation. That's probably looking

632
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:19,719
Speaker 1: at a comp pick. Yeah, following year, all right, so

633
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 1: then we'll go to Justin Houston. We'll save Marcus Peters fill. Yeah,

634
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 1: I think Justin Houston. I think this may like he's waited.

635
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 1: I think I think Justin Houston could sit around again

636
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 1: and wait until August and say, like, you guys, enjoy

637
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 1: the off season program and OTAs. I think I do

638
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 1: expect him to come back and play this year. I

639
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 1: don't think he's gonna retire, but it's not outside of

640
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 1: the possible, the realm of possibility. And he came really

641
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,480
Speaker 1: close last year. Um, but he proved and he could

642
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 1: probably get a nice pay day. I think that Houston,

643
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 1: you have a season, pends on what, Yeah, what does

644
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 1: that payday look like? If somebody's willing to give him

645
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 1: a nice pay day, he might sign that in March, Yeah,

646
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 1: of course. Yeah, so and says, hey, we'll give you

647
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 1: ten mil. Exactly, Like what is the market for I mean,

648
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 1: how old is Justin Houston? Thirty two? Right something in there?

649
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 1: Thirty three? Look that up real quick while I fill

650
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 1: some time here. Yeah, you know, but you're at that

651
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 1: age you put up nine and a half sacks. Teams

652
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 1: are going to be looking at that, like already nine

653
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 1: a half sacks and a half sacks. But you know,

654
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 1: where's the cliff for this guy? And so it'll be

655
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 1: interesting to see. I think this is a case where

656
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 1: the Ravens probably lets let him hit the open market,

657
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 1: see what the market dictates for him, keep in touch

658
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 1: with him. I think that Justin Houston is a guy

659
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 1: who's enjoyed his time in Baltimore. I would expect the

660
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 1: two sides to remain in touch. And if he's saying

661
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 1: in his age and are saying, you know, hey, we're

662
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 1: looking at we're getting six million dollars a year offers

663
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:40,239
Speaker 1: out here, do you want to match that or not?

664
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 1: Then the Ravens make that decision. He's thirty four. Thirty four, okay,

665
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 1: so older than I was saying. Yeah, I don't know

666
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 1: what the market. He's played twelve years. I don't know

667
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 1: what the market intends for him. But I agree he's

668
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 1: not going to be a guy unless he gets blown

669
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 1: out of the water with some offer, which I probably

670
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 1: don't expect. He's a guy that has not been in

671
00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 1: a rush to sign, and I expect that that'll probably

672
00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 1: be how this plays out. Yeah, the Ravens have young

673
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 1: pass rushers. Obviously, Dafeoa is going into a really big

674
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 1: year three in which he needs to, you know, prove

675
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 1: himself coming off his sophomore season. The Ravens were made

676
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 1: it very clear how excited they are for David a

677
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 1: Jabo in the future of their second round pick, who

678
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 1: did not see much time as a rookie. They have

679
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:20,479
Speaker 1: those two young guys at outside linebacker, but now, you know,

680
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 1: you get a little bit thin after that, you have

681
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 1: Tias Bowser that's really your three. And this year they

682
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 1: they signed Jpp you know, midway through the year, and

683
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 1: then they and then Houston. But you know, if Justin

684
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 1: Houston's has not come back, you're looking at probably signing

685
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 1: another cheap veteran, whether it be JPP or somebody else.

686
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 1: You need more depth there, right, Yeah, Like I mean this,

687
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 1: you know, Vince Beagle was a guy the Ravens signed

688
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 1: last year who ended up who actually a pretty good

689
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 1: early in training camp and tern Is Achilles and this

690
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 1: in the whole year. But that's like the more affordable,

691
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 1: the cheaper version of a veteran there where where JPP

692
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 1: and Justin Houston coming higher price. Take yes, but I

693
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 1: just think that I think that that's going to be

694
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 1: one that waits. I just like agree. I mean, look

695
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,959
Speaker 1: at how long the Ravens waited to really solve their

696
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 1: outside linebacker situation this past year. I mean they went

697
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 1: into Week one with two outside right, and he even

698
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 1: like he by waiting, you know, it's I guess it

699
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 1: depends on the market, but like he could put himself

700
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 1: into position to maybe get more money by waiting. Like

701
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, it's like it's a it's a

702
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 1: JPP kind of situation, right exactly. Like I don't know

703
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 1: what the offer was, you know, initially, but like and

704
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, the Ravens are kind of in

705
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 1: a desperate situation at outside linebacker and they go get JPP.

706
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 1: There could be other teams that are Yeah, but I'm

707
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 1: saying last year, that's what they did. Like there will

708
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 1: be there will be a team in a similar situation

709
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 1: this year, and he may take that chance. He'll he'll

710
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 1: be that guy like in the middle in June or whatever.

711
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 1: And and everybody, you know, pass the draft, and all right,

712
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 1: what team needs you still have? Like outside, Well there's

713
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 1: a guy with nine and a half sacks last year, right,

714
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 1: maybe he makes sense, you know, And and yeah, it'll

715
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 1: be interesting. I expect that's probably how this played. Could

716
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 1: could he get a ten million dollar deal? I would

717
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 1: be supprised, right, that's that's rich. But could could someone say,

718
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:09,800
Speaker 1: all right, you know what, I had nine and a

719
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 1: half last year, let's give him one year ten I

720
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,879
Speaker 1: would be supprised, But I don't know. I mean, that's

721
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,719
Speaker 1: like you're talking like Jadeveon Clowney money, you know, I mean,

722
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 1: but he's been better than Jadeveon Clowney. Well he was

723
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,800
Speaker 1: his past year. Yeah, but Clowney was you know, a

724
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,359
Speaker 1: lot younger. Now he had more injury history all that stuff.

725
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:28,799
Speaker 1: I know, I'm just saying, like, like, you're right, it

726
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 1: is like in that realm. But I'm just saying, if

727
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:32,440
Speaker 1: he when you put up that kind of production like

728
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 1: sex gets you money, get paiid they get paid? Yeah?

729
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:38,839
Speaker 1: All right now, Marcus Peters. And I think this is

730
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,880
Speaker 1: one of the tougher calls because when you look at

731
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:44,800
Speaker 1: the unrestricted free agent quarterbacks out there, Marcus Peters is

732
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 1: right up there at or near the top of the list,

733
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 1: right And so you know, obviously he came off of

734
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:56,720
Speaker 1: the season and knee injury this past year. He himself

735
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 1: voiced that that was tough. Even this past year he

736
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 1: had he wasn't totally sure of himself. He wasn't his

737
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:04,760
Speaker 1: old self. He wasn't just kind of second guessing himself,

738
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 1: you know, thinking about ultimately, am I going to get

739
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 1: back to that player? What's my football? You know? Mortality here.

740
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:15,360
Speaker 1: And he's a guy that has been outspoken about how

741
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 1: much he loves being in Baltimore. Eric Decasa has been

742
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,759
Speaker 1: outspoken about how much he loves Marcus Peters, and you know,

743
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 1: called him one of his favorite guys. His competitiveness, you know,

744
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:27,879
Speaker 1: his love of the game, the way he studies the game,

745
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:30,760
Speaker 1: the way he teaches others, mentors others, all that stuff.

746
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:33,720
Speaker 1: I think he adds a swagger level to this defense.

747
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 1: I like having Marcus Peterson's defense. But you know, he

748
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:40,399
Speaker 1: had a he had a fifteen point five million dollar

749
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:42,400
Speaker 1: cap hit last year. The Ravens kept him at that.

750
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 1: That shows you how much they value Marcus Peterson. That

751
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 1: was coming off a knee. Yeah, he's going to be

752
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 1: that much more healthy, healthier this year. He would presume.

753
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 1: Spot Track estimates that his contracts would come in around

754
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:57,440
Speaker 1: ten million dollars nine point eight. Yeah, they said basically

755
00:35:58,000 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 1: a projection, you know for a deal for him with

756
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 1: would be two years, twenty million. Right. That's that's because

757
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:05,360
Speaker 1: I don't I don't think he's gonna sign a one

758
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 1: year contract. I think it's gonna probably sign at least

759
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:12,319
Speaker 1: at least two, So two for twenty you know, now

760
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 1: if you if you, if he signs that, he'll again

761
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 1: be one of the highest capets on the team. You know,

762
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:19,879
Speaker 1: this year, I guess if you do a two year

763
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 1: you could backload it potentially, you know, five years, then fifteen.

764
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:25,839
Speaker 1: Can you give it the Claiss Campbell. You know what

765
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 1: the two year deal that he signed this past off

766
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:30,920
Speaker 1: basically that's that's there's potential there and that gives you

767
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 1: some of the flexibility. Right Um, I'll just come out

768
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:36,359
Speaker 1: and say that's what that's what you would You will

769
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 1: go to Clais Cambell round. I would go to the

770
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:39,839
Speaker 1: Clais camb where out if that's possible. I think both

771
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 1: sides want to remains together, is my feeling. And if

772
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 1: you don't bring back Marcus Peters, what are you looking

773
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 1: at a cornerback? Now you have Marlon Humphrey obviously on

774
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 1: one side, and then you're looking at Brandon Stevens jail

775
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 1: and Armor Davis, who really didn't play much as a rookie.

776
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 1: You're putting a lot of eggs and in the jail

777
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 1: and Armor Davis basket who I think the Ravens were

778
00:36:57,760 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 1: really excited to get in the fourth round last year.

779
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,240
Speaker 1: Have high hopes for him, you know, as a possible

780
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 1: Anthony Avert, right um, But like Anthony Avert wasn't thrust

781
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 1: into a starting job in a year two after you know,

782
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:11,319
Speaker 1: not playing much as a rookie. That would be asking

783
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:15,440
Speaker 1: me a lot. That would be Brandon Stevens. You know,

784
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:17,720
Speaker 1: when he stepped in for Marcus Peters down the stretch

785
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 1: for a couple of games as a starter, played well

786
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 1: at that end zone pass break up on Pickens. Um.

787
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 1: I like Brandon Stevens friend in the lounge, um um.

788
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 1: But you know, like, are you ready? Have you seen

789
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,360
Speaker 1: enough to put him out there as a starting corner.

790
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 1: It's kind of like goes back to what we're saying

791
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:40,279
Speaker 1: about Chuck, Like you, this secondary is a position of

792
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 1: strength for this team. All of a sudden, you take

793
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:45,439
Speaker 1: Chuck Clark and Marks Peters off of it, and like,

794
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 1: now the depth is more thin and you're removing some

795
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:51,840
Speaker 1: high end players. Now it's not such a position of strength.

796
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,360
Speaker 1: But like, those are the economics that come into place

797
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 1: when you're potentially franchising a quarterback or working out a

798
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:00,440
Speaker 1: long term deal with a quarterback. You know, those are

799
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 1: those are the difficult things that you have to If

800
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:05,360
Speaker 1: there's a way to keep Marcus Peters, I think it

801
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 1: would be good, But I'm just having a hard time

802
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 1: seeing the numbers work out in a way that makes

803
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 1: it feasible. Like I like, it's gonna cost you about

804
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 1: ten million dollars. Well, I wonder, can you get a

805
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 1: five million dollars cap hit this year in a fifteen

806
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:24,240
Speaker 1: the following year? Right, you know that and within possible

807
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:27,360
Speaker 1: out where they whatever, you know, if he if he's released,

808
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 1: then you save whatever eight because I think there will

809
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 1: be a Mark eight. I think there's gonna be a

810
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 1: market for to your point, like he's one of the

811
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 1: he's one of the top free asient corners and corners

812
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 1: such a position that teams are hungry for, like teams

813
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 1: want cornerbacks. So it's like, I don't know that. Like

814
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:45,359
Speaker 1: I do think that Marks Peters has liked it here.

815
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 1: I think the Ravens have liked having him here. I

816
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 1: think that's been a really good fit. But I don't

817
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:53,239
Speaker 1: think there's many hometown discounts in the NFL. I think

818
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:57,319
Speaker 1: that's a situation where the Ravens um would like to get.

819
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 1: I think that's a situation where he doesn't hit the market,

820
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 1: that he reaches that extension before or a new contract

821
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 1: before the market opens. Is that's what I would like

822
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:10,400
Speaker 1: to see happen. Yeah, I don't think he's attested on

823
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:12,319
Speaker 1: free agency. Guy, Let's see what offers you get out

824
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 1: there and then maybe bring you back kind of. And

825
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:18,880
Speaker 1: that's the question. It's like, you know, with any of

826
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 1: these things, it takes two. And so Marcus Peters he

827
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 1: knows the business side of this game. He's been on

828
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 1: multiple teams, He's been traded multiple times, so he may say,

829
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:28,439
Speaker 1: you know what, like I'll see what the market holds,

830
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:32,479
Speaker 1: I'll you know, he could, he could, he could, and yeah,

831
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:35,279
Speaker 1: that that all these are tough decisions. I just think

832
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:36,840
Speaker 1: he's going to be better next year than he was

833
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 1: this year. And you know, I mean I thought he

834
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 1: played at a pretty good level this year, you know,

835
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 1: and I think like he'll get more interceptions next year

836
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 1: and and all that stuff. You know, even if they

837
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 1: were even if the Ravens were to draft the first

838
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 1: round cornerback, which I put cornerback and wide receiver as

839
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 1: the two most likely first round picks for the Ravens

840
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 1: as it stands right now at number twenty two, Uh,

841
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,120
Speaker 1: what first round corner has stepped in and been an

842
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 1: immediate starter for the Ravens. Jimmy Smith wasn't, Marlon Humphrey wasn't. Well, yeah,

843
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:08,759
Speaker 1: I mean that how many other first round I mean

844
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 1: we're going back? Who who else was the first personal callister.

845
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:15,880
Speaker 1: I can't remember exactly time we're going back aways. This

846
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,279
Speaker 1: guy's a twenty second picks, I know. I'm also not

847
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 1: like he's the eighth third I know, but there's also

848
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:22,319
Speaker 1: like it's not like a huge sample size of like, look,

849
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:25,400
Speaker 1: the Ravens of drafted an nobody ever. So I'm just saying, like,

850
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:28,280
Speaker 1: generally speaking, even if you look at other teams, Kayer Elam,

851
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 1: he wasn't an immediate starter in Buffalo. He I think

852
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:33,839
Speaker 1: it eventually became that. So Sauce Garter is pretty good. Yeah,

853
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 1: Sauce Carter was like what the fifth over fourth world pick,

854
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 1: Like this is a twenty second you know. Like I

855
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 1: just think that it's asking you a lot, even if

856
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:43,400
Speaker 1: you draft a first round cornerback, that he's going to

857
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:46,360
Speaker 1: be an immediate starter. And so I like the option

858
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:49,320
Speaker 1: of having Marcus Peters essentially as the bridge to whoever

859
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 1: that guy is. Maybe he's the bridge to jail Armor Davis,

860
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:55,719
Speaker 1: maybe he's the bridge to Brandon Stevens. Right now, I

861
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:58,800
Speaker 1: think the Ravens they have some good young talent at corner.

862
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:01,400
Speaker 1: I think you need a short term bridge at this

863
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 1: point where they are well even you know, we're talking

864
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 1: about like a first round corner, like that's a guarantee.

865
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 1: It's far from a guarantee because we haven't even we

866
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 1: haven't even mentioned wide receiver. And you know, if you

867
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:13,399
Speaker 1: take a first we're gonna get to that. If if

868
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:15,320
Speaker 1: you take a first round receiver, then you can kiss that.

869
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:18,720
Speaker 1: You know, that scenario of finding this first round corner,

870
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:21,279
Speaker 1: plugging a man as a starter there exactly, that's not

871
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:22,840
Speaker 1: an option which you don't have to I mean, like

872
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 1: we said, we have some young guys real quick, let's

873
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 1: just run through the other remaining unrestricted free agents that

874
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 1: the Ravens have to make decisions on bren Urban. As

875
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 1: we said, if Clays Campbell to relieve, I think we're

876
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 1: to whatever. If they were to release class and he's

877
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:38,399
Speaker 1: or he retires, I think the chances of bringing back

878
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 1: bren Urban increase, right Kennyan Drake once again, I think

879
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 1: what happens with Gus I thought Kenyan played pretty well,

880
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:47,839
Speaker 1: fit in here well, liked being a Raven. I think

881
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:51,800
Speaker 1: the door's not closed there. JPP. Same situation. What happens

882
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:53,840
Speaker 1: with Justin Houston? Does he want to come back? Is

883
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:56,760
Speaker 1: you know, does he just bounce around to another team whatever.

884
00:41:57,640 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 1: Kyle Fuller, we're talking about cornerbacks. I think the Raven

885
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:02,759
Speaker 1: were excited about what Kyle full was gonna offer. Now

886
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 1: he's coming off a season ending it was a knee

887
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 1: in week one, suffered in Week one in New York,

888
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 1: you know, does he come back? I think a lot

889
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 1: of these guys, it depends on what happens with these

890
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 1: other Yeah, there's there's the domino thing. I mean with

891
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:19,440
Speaker 1: Kyle Fuller, like that would just be you know, like

892
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:22,719
Speaker 1: going back to your bridge analogy like that. That could

893
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 1: work and maybe he could be that. But it's also

894
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:28,279
Speaker 1: like you're kind of when a guy's coming off a

895
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:30,360
Speaker 1: knee injury, as we just saw it Markus Peter J.

896
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 1: Gust Edwards like it's it's maybe unrealistic to expect them

897
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 1: to like come into play seventeen games now. He suffered that, right,

898
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:40,319
Speaker 1: I guess Markus map Peter suffered. Three of those guys

899
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 1: happened before the season starts. JK. Gust and Marky and

900
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 1: Marcus wasn't right week one like full exactly, so he's

901
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 1: on a similar timeline. Uh, Justice Hill is a guy

902
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 1: I would not be surprised if he comes back on

903
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:55,320
Speaker 1: whatever one or two year, Like they need depth in

904
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 1: running back position, and I think he's a very good

905
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 1: special teams player. Would not surprise has been a few

906
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:02,359
Speaker 1: returns and he's a change of pace. He's different from

907
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 1: some of these other guys and had a pretty good year.

908
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:07,919
Speaker 1: DeMarcus Robinson isn't an interesting one. You know, we're talking

909
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 1: about building out the wide receiver group. DeMarcus was the

910
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 1: leading wide receiver in terms of production. I thought it

911
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 1: played pretty well. You know, I don't think it's it's

912
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:18,279
Speaker 1: probably it would be a wait and see. You know,

913
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 1: he was released by the Raiders. Um, I don't think

914
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:24,240
Speaker 1: there's gonna be a huge market out there for DeMarcus Robinson.

915
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 1: You know, could that be a wait and see what happens?

916
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 1: Do we end up getting a first round wide receiver

917
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 1: in the draft. You know, it just wouldn't surprise me

918
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 1: if a reunion would be possible there. Like DeMarcus Robinson

919
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 1: is wide receiver. Three is is like exactly pretty good thing, right,

920
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 1: Like not talking like as your slot wide receiver, but

921
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 1: we're just saying like, yeah, that's your third option, right Like,

922
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:48,279
Speaker 1: you know, he was thrust into a situations it's gonna

923
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 1: be Bateman. Hold on before we dive into the wide

924
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 1: receiver conversation, that's take a quick break and then well

925
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:54,759
Speaker 1: then we'll jump into that, all right. I know everyone

926
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:57,440
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939
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 1: those receivers. There you go, and that's what the Ravens

940
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:36,240
Speaker 1: are going to do this year. So, um, the receiver

941
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 1: room and conversation is you know, we kind of we

942
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 1: didn't bury the lead, but it is. I think I

943
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 1: think it goes lamar and then receiver like in terms

944
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:51,360
Speaker 1: of like we're not talking chronologically, but in terms of

945
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:55,360
Speaker 1: importance in terms of reports season, checklist the Lamar situation

946
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 1: and then get the receiver situation squared away. I agree

947
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:01,879
Speaker 1: with that. I would agree with that because, like so much,

948
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 1: the obvious biggest area of need for the Ravens this offseason,

949
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 1: and so we just briefly touched onto Marcus Robinson. What

950
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:14,799
Speaker 1: is in your mind the answer at wide receiver? Well,

951
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:16,839
Speaker 1: you know, there's obviously a lot of talk out there

952
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:21,719
Speaker 1: about trading for DeAndre Hopkins. I just I think that

953
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:25,280
Speaker 1: unless Lamar were to sign a long term contract extension

954
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:29,840
Speaker 1: that gave them more salary cap room and flexibility, I

955
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 1: don't see any way of that happens. Unless Lamar signs

956
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 1: a long term deal. I just don't they. You know,

957
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 1: he's scheduled to make nineteen nineteen. If he were to

958
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 1: be traded, he's on the books for nineteen and a

959
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:46,880
Speaker 1: half million dollars in base salary next year fourteen almost

960
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 1: fifteen the following year nineteen and a half. Where are

961
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:53,720
Speaker 1: the Ravens getting that salary gap space? Unless Lamar Jackson

962
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 1: were to sign a long term extension or the Cardinals

963
00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:00,160
Speaker 1: were to eat a lot of that base salary. Andre

964
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 1: Hopkins just don't see it as a possibility, you know.

965
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 1: And then also on top of that, you have to

966
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 1: come you know, you have to work out a deal

967
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:09,359
Speaker 1: for trade compensation if you were to trade for him.

968
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 1: Now you know, there was talk, you know, would it

969
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 1: take a second round pick? The Ravens don't have a

970
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 1: second round pick after the Roquan Smith trade. You know,

971
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:19,320
Speaker 1: now Albert Brewer reported, maybe it's just maybe it's a

972
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 1: day what was it, day three? Yeah, exactly? Could it

973
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 1: be a third round pick? Yeah? Okay. I like DeAndre Hopkins.

974
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:33,840
Speaker 1: I think he's an awesome player. The Ravens were reportedly

975
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 1: interested in him back when you know, when he went

976
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 1: to Arizona UM. There there's been buzz there, there's been

977
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:44,359
Speaker 1: smoke around DeAndre Hopkins. So I understand all the talk

978
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:46,359
Speaker 1: about him, and I think that would be a huge

979
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:48,399
Speaker 1: edition for this team. We've all talked about a number

980
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 1: one mide receiver. Is he the an Kuan Bolden for

981
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 1: this team? Right? I would love to bring him in.

982
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 1: I just think, you know, if it takes a third

983
00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 1: round pick, and if they eat half his salary and

984
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 1: I have the salary cap room sign up. But that's

985
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:07,839
Speaker 1: a lot of ifs, right, And like, would another team

986
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 1: if it's a third round pick, I would think there's

987
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 1: probably people lining up, probably a healthy market, Like the

988
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 1: scenario that you just described, third round pick and they

989
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 1: you'd have a salary. I think a lot of teams

990
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 1: were probably go back. Sure, I'll do that, right right exactly? Yeah,

991
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:22,360
Speaker 1: I think it alur bears kind of saying the market

992
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 1: might not be He's reporting that the market might not

993
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 1: be good enough that the Cardinals want to deal them

994
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:29,360
Speaker 1: at all, that it mightn't be just worth hanging on

995
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 1: to him. So he's kind of saying it's going to

996
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:35,279
Speaker 1: be a cold market. I I don't know, I have

997
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 1: no idea. I mean, I think DeAndre Hopkins is a

998
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:40,399
Speaker 1: pretty darn good player. But that's what he's reporting. Yeah,

999
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:42,359
Speaker 1: he knows better than me what the market is out there.

1000
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:45,759
Speaker 1: So yeah, Like and would they would they would the

1001
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 1: Cardinals do that? Like, is the third round pick and

1002
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:52,359
Speaker 1: losing DeAndre Hopkins worth it to them exactly and taking

1003
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:54,160
Speaker 1: on half of a salary they have in the usual

1004
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 1: regime there, It all depends. I don't know what they're thinking. Yeah, yeah, so, um,

1005
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:03,799
Speaker 1: I'm interested I'm monitoring. I'm monitoring the situation. Yeah, that's

1006
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 1: what I would love the player hard to see us.

1007
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:08,400
Speaker 1: I'm with you, I love the player, would love the

1008
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 1: fit hard to see a scenario where they're able to

1009
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 1: pull it off. Right, So, if it's not DeAndre Hopkins,

1010
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:17,319
Speaker 1: then what is it? And I think a first round

1011
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 1: pick is certainly likely. But before we get to that point,

1012
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:23,880
Speaker 1: you got to talk about free agency, right, So I

1013
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:26,759
Speaker 1: think the Ravens will go into free agency and they

1014
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 1: will be I think that they will have a wide

1015
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 1: receiver two that they are targeting to get, is what

1016
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:37,440
Speaker 1: I think. Eric is quote about free agency says, regardless,

1017
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 1: it's not going to be a situation where the market's

1018
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:42,880
Speaker 1: open and we're just gonna get we're just going and

1019
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 1: signing guys left and right. That's not gonna happen in

1020
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 1: any way. There's really no scenario where that's probably going

1021
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 1: to be the case. We'll be selective, we'll be targeted,

1022
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:55,400
Speaker 1: and we'll find guys like we always do that we

1023
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 1: think can build this team and help us be the

1024
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:01,000
Speaker 1: best we can be. So pretty much was saying don't

1025
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 1: expect the spending spree. The Marcus Williams signing ain't happening

1026
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:08,279
Speaker 1: this year right where they made the big splash and

1027
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:09,719
Speaker 1: got the guy at the top of the market and

1028
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:12,440
Speaker 1: we were all like, whoa right, And they signed a

1029
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 1: number of free agents this year, I mean yeah, like Mark,

1030
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 1: I mean, don't have any aren't projected getting in compics. Yeah,

1031
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 1: they got you know, Morgan Moses obviously was a big signing.

1032
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:24,279
Speaker 1: Marcus Williams was at the top of the market, you know,

1033
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 1: he was missing. There was another he was the big one.

1034
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 1: I mean. Then then later on in the process they

1035
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:32,320
Speaker 1: brought back to justin Houston. They signed Jason Pierre Paul so,

1036
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 1: but those two guys were the big ones at the beginning. Yeah, um,

1037
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:37,440
Speaker 1: you might be thinking about Zarius Smith who was initially

1038
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:39,640
Speaker 1: in the mix and then obviously ended up well Michael Pierce.

1039
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:43,719
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah. So, like they were pretty aggressive in

1040
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 1: free agency last year. I don't think they're going to

1041
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 1: be in that position this year. Just cap eyes, as

1042
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:49,839
Speaker 1: Eric Cots said, but I think they will go into

1043
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:52,800
Speaker 1: it with a wider veteran wide receiver or two that

1044
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 1: they feel like we might be able to get this

1045
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 1: guy right player, right price. So some of the players

1046
00:49:57,719 --> 00:49:59,839
Speaker 1: who were scheduled to be unrestricted free agents this year.

1047
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 1: DJ Chart, Marvin Jones, Alan Lazard, Juju Smith, Schuster, Micole Harman,

1048
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:09,840
Speaker 1: Paris Campbell, just a few names, Darius Layton, Mac Collins. Okay,

1049
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 1: so we're talking to the Lazards of the world, the

1050
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:16,399
Speaker 1: DJ Charks of the world, the Marvin Jones of the world.

1051
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:20,120
Speaker 1: We're talking around ten eleven million dollars projected probably that's

1052
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:23,919
Speaker 1: spot track, yeah, saying that's their projected annual salary. Yeah,

1053
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 1: I think I have a hard time once again unless

1054
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:29,839
Speaker 1: Lamar's on the long term deal of seeing how they

1055
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:33,279
Speaker 1: eat an eleven million dollars annual salary. I mean, that's

1056
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:35,320
Speaker 1: we're talking to DeAndre Hopkins. If they eat some of

1057
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:39,680
Speaker 1: that hallary, that's what we're talking there, right right, So yeah,

1058
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:42,799
Speaker 1: could Allan Lazard make sense? And I kind of he's

1059
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:44,920
Speaker 1: a big body guy, you know, I kind of be

1060
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:47,960
Speaker 1: down for that. Mac Collins is another big body guy.

1061
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 1: But to the top tier, let's say, of those unrestrictive

1062
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 1: free agent wide receivers, I'd be interested if if Lamar is,

1063
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:57,839
Speaker 1: you know, under a long term deal, like go get

1064
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 1: one of those guys. The Ravens showed was it two

1065
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 1: years ago that you know they were They reportedly offered

1066
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 1: Juju Smith Schuster like a ten million dollar a deal,

1067
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:10,759
Speaker 1: Like they showed they were willing to spend some there, right, Like,

1068
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:13,279
Speaker 1: could they do that again if the numbers work out?

1069
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:15,440
Speaker 1: I think they could. I think the Ravens will love

1070
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:17,719
Speaker 1: to add a I think the Rains would love to

1071
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:22,799
Speaker 1: add like a top band quality receiver to this mix.

1072
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 1: I just think it comes down to like the the

1073
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:27,880
Speaker 1: you know, if that's a DeAndre Hopkins, you know, or

1074
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:30,800
Speaker 1: if that's one of the guys like we're talking about.

1075
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:32,880
Speaker 1: I put Danjras Hopkins on a different level than all

1076
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:35,319
Speaker 1: these players. If all those guys, if the Cardinals were

1077
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 1: eating half a salary and DeAndre Hopkins is coming at it,

1078
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:40,319
Speaker 1: I'd rather DeAndre Hopkins at eleven million and a third

1079
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:43,399
Speaker 1: round pick, then I would Al Lazard at eleven million,

1080
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:46,279
Speaker 1: straight up undrespectivey agent. Yeah, yeah, I think I like,

1081
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:50,920
Speaker 1: none of those guys to me, are somebody like absolutely

1082
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:53,719
Speaker 1: all come with question marks, Like none of them are like, oh,

1083
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 1: that's the bona fide number one one guy that we've

1084
00:51:57,120 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 1: all been clamoring for here in Baltimore. Like we saw

1085
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:01,200
Speaker 1: some of the moves this offseason, Like there's a lot

1086
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 1: of movement on the receiver market, A J. Brown, Hollywood Brown,

1087
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 1: Davante Adams, Syry Hill. Like the receiver market was blown

1088
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 1: up right within the last year. Those guys, those guys

1089
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:15,840
Speaker 1: they have new teams like that, we're not seeing a

1090
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:18,960
Speaker 1: similar thing again this year, like and there's not like

1091
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:22,319
Speaker 1: those are like, well, who knows some of the top

1092
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:24,680
Speaker 1: receivers exactly in the NFL. I don't think the Vikers

1093
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:27,239
Speaker 1: are trading Justin Jefferson, right, Yeah, like the Bengals aren't

1094
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 1: trading Jamar Chase. But did we did any of us

1095
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 1: think that Chiefs were trading Tyree Hill either? I mean,

1096
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:34,440
Speaker 1: I guess they were in salary cap trouble, But I

1097
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 1: don't know every team salary cap situation, who's in trouble

1098
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:39,440
Speaker 1: and who could hit the market that we don't expect.

1099
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:41,840
Speaker 1: I don't know. What I do know is Eric de

1100
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:45,320
Speaker 1: Costa pretty much poured cold water on that notion that

1101
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:47,880
Speaker 1: of you know, why don't you just go trade you know,

1102
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:50,359
Speaker 1: multiple first round picks or whatever, our first round pick

1103
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:52,279
Speaker 1: for one of those stud wide receivers, bring him in here,

1104
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 1: and you have to sign them to a huge contract,

1105
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:56,920
Speaker 1: like he pretty much said, now, we're not doing that

1106
00:52:57,239 --> 00:53:00,440
Speaker 1: because because that mortgage is the future. Like they I

1107
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:02,239
Speaker 1: just don't think they're in a position where they're gonna

1108
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:04,760
Speaker 1: have a wide receiver on this team with Lamar Jackson

1109
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:08,160
Speaker 1: coming up for a huge payday, a wide receiver making

1110
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:10,880
Speaker 1: the annual twenty five million dollars a year, and you

1111
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:13,759
Speaker 1: know you have signed that contract immediately and you're giving

1112
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 1: up at least the first round pick, maybe multiple. I

1113
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:18,320
Speaker 1: just don't see the Ravens doing that. I also just

1114
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 1: don't see that player on the market. Yeah, I don't.

1115
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:23,120
Speaker 1: I don't know. I probably don't either, but I'm not

1116
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 1: gonna say I know every team's cap situation. Yeah, like

1117
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 1: the guys who again would be in that mix. It's

1118
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:29,960
Speaker 1: like justin Jefferson, right, we were talking about three of

1119
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 1: the best wide receivers in the game that got dealt lash. Yeah. Yeah,

1120
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:35,560
Speaker 1: Like I just don't could Dk Metcalf, I don't know,

1121
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:39,719
Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, I don't know, right right? Um,

1122
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:45,680
Speaker 1: I think you know, could the Carolina Sure, maybe Dj Moore,

1123
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:50,279
Speaker 1: but DJ Moore is not Tyreek Hill, Davante Adams, you know,

1124
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 1: Jomar Chase, right, right level, right, Um, so anyway to

1125
00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:58,560
Speaker 1: the understricted p agents. I don't I don't really see

1126
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 1: one of those guys at the eleven million, Like I

1127
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:03,560
Speaker 1: don't see the Ravens signing one of those top three

1128
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:06,400
Speaker 1: or four guys. I think that it's more likely that

1129
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:09,480
Speaker 1: they get go to the next tier. Guys like a

1130
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:13,960
Speaker 1: Mac Collins, who's a similar body frame to Alan Lazard.

1131
00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:16,399
Speaker 1: He's an inch shorter, he's six foot four, two twenty

1132
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:18,759
Speaker 1: one put at fifty seven catches for six hundred and

1133
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:22,280
Speaker 1: ninety yards and four touchdowns. Not a bad year projected

1134
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:24,520
Speaker 1: salary annual salary of two and a half million dollars

1135
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:27,320
Speaker 1: two point four from spot Track. That to me is

1136
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 1: more right player, right price. He's a different body frame.

1137
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:32,439
Speaker 1: He's you know, we've all been looking for this body,

1138
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:35,879
Speaker 1: big guy like maybe that scratches the edge? Yeah? Right?

1139
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:39,319
Speaker 1: Is it a Paris Campbell sixty three catches for six

1140
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:41,399
Speaker 1: twenty three and three touchdowns two and a half million

1141
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:44,279
Speaker 1: dollars projected from spot track. Okay, he's a more of

1142
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:46,839
Speaker 1: a route runner, you know, not as big a body. Guy,

1143
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 1: got some speed to him, has some big playability. But

1144
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:51,840
Speaker 1: I mean this matches what the Ravens have done to

1145
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:55,359
Speaker 1: free agency at the receiver position. Well, it's Sammy Watkins. Yeah,

1146
00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:58,520
Speaker 1: it's Sammy Watkins essentially, except these guys aren't as old

1147
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:00,800
Speaker 1: as Sammy was when the Ravens signed him, right, But

1148
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:04,160
Speaker 1: Darius Slayton forty six for seven twenty four and two

1149
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:06,880
Speaker 1: touchdowns and Giants offense last year another kind of bigger

1150
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:08,600
Speaker 1: guy three and a half projected, three and a half

1151
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:11,760
Speaker 1: million dollars projected. To me, that's kind of the level

1152
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:14,640
Speaker 1: that I see them, you know, could be a targeted

1153
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 1: signing for them. Yeah, I mean I think this is

1154
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:21,239
Speaker 1: this is the guys that you're mentioning are in that uh,

1155
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 1: Sammy Watkins, Michael Crabtree, ish U mold and younger but younger,

1156
00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:31,960
Speaker 1: and so that could be the route, you know, that

1157
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:35,160
Speaker 1: they go. I think that. I think with Rasha Bateman,

1158
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:36,799
Speaker 1: they clearly have a lot of faith that he can

1159
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 1: be a number one guy or whatever, that he can

1160
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:40,839
Speaker 1: be that guy. He showed it earlier in the year.

1161
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:43,759
Speaker 1: But so I don't think on the opposite side, like

1162
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 1: if you have a number two guy, like a legit

1163
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:49,400
Speaker 1: two and whatever, you consider Bateman whatever you want, if

1164
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:50,719
Speaker 1: you want to call him a number two whatever you

1165
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:53,799
Speaker 1: want to call him, right, Like, they need something better

1166
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:56,400
Speaker 1: opposite him than what they've had, and d Rene is

1167
00:55:56,480 --> 00:56:00,320
Speaker 1: kind of your Swiss army knife, right, Like I'm not

1168
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:02,960
Speaker 1: saying unless it's DeAndre Hopkins, Like I just don't see

1169
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:05,120
Speaker 1: that number one wide receiver that we all talk about

1170
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:08,960
Speaker 1: that stud guy being there, but that you can still

1171
00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:11,719
Speaker 1: upgrade the passing attack if you get a solid number two.

1172
00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:14,080
Speaker 1: It's kind of what I'm saying. Yeah, I'm with you

1173
00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:15,880
Speaker 1: on that. And then if Bateman comes back, you know,

1174
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:18,840
Speaker 1: you're again a lot you're putting a lot of eggs

1175
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:21,359
Speaker 1: into the Bateman's gonna come back and be a number

1176
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:24,439
Speaker 1: one or two receiver. Yeah, there's a lot of which

1177
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:27,560
Speaker 1: I think he certainly can. But like he's coming back

1178
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:30,080
Speaker 1: from a major, major injury. So we just got talking

1179
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:32,480
Speaker 1: done talking on the last podcast about how good he's looking,

1180
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:35,200
Speaker 1: he's running. He is, But I'm just saying, you're you're

1181
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:37,680
Speaker 1: you're putting a lot of faith into the notion that he, hey,

1182
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:39,440
Speaker 1: baby's gonna come back and be the number one guy.

1183
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 1: And thus I feel like they also need to draft

1184
00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:44,520
Speaker 1: at least one wide receiver, Like I think it's signing

1185
00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:48,560
Speaker 1: a veteran on the free agent market of proven number two.

1186
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 1: Let's say, and I think that it's it's also drafting.

1187
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:55,640
Speaker 1: I'm in favor of taking another swing at a first

1188
00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:57,560
Speaker 1: round wide receiver. I think it's gonna be a first

1189
00:56:57,600 --> 00:56:59,480
Speaker 1: round pick for a receiver. It's just hard for me

1190
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:01,400
Speaker 1: not to think it could be. I think it's I

1191
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:05,080
Speaker 1: think it's gonna be a wide receiver or corner. No no, no, no, no, no,

1192
00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:07,440
Speaker 1: you're I think it's gonna be wide receiver, corner, or

1193
00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:10,520
Speaker 1: pass rusher or dolt pass as a possibility, or else linebacker.

1194
00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:12,640
Speaker 1: So you're just sticking the flag in right now in

1195
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:14,359
Speaker 1: the first round wide receiver. Is that what you're saying?

1196
00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:17,680
Speaker 1: Your roster could change. The roster could change, and all

1197
00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:20,200
Speaker 1: of a sudden you could end up with DeAndre Hopkins,

1198
00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:23,920
Speaker 1: you know, as we potentially, but like as it stands

1199
00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:27,320
Speaker 1: right now, without the addition of a of a number

1200
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 1: one receiver, I think it's gonna be a first round

1201
00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:33,320
Speaker 1: pick at wide receiver. Yes, that's my gentleman, producers, mark

1202
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:35,720
Speaker 1: it down. Put the time stamp on that right now.

1203
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:37,640
Speaker 1: We're gonna need to call that one up. Yeah. January

1204
00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:41,360
Speaker 1: twenty seventh year market down market market. I think it is.

1205
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:46,600
Speaker 1: I think I think it's gonna be. Uh. The Ravens

1206
00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:50,240
Speaker 1: clearly like Eric's cost A strategy at wide receiver has

1207
00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:55,280
Speaker 1: been draft him, yep, draft him multiple round expensive later

1208
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:58,880
Speaker 1: on right, like receivers are expensive, draft him early in

1209
00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:02,520
Speaker 1: the rounds. She's four drafts, he said, four drafts, and

1210
00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:04,520
Speaker 1: and two of them he used two of the first

1211
00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:07,200
Speaker 1: round picks on wide receivers. So I think that there

1212
00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:09,320
Speaker 1: will be a first round pick wide receiver this year.

1213
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:12,040
Speaker 1: I think that is a very high likelihood. And when

1214
00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:14,760
Speaker 1: you just look at the board the projections now still

1215
00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:17,520
Speaker 1: early in the whole pre draft, you know, stack the board,

1216
00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:20,160
Speaker 1: the mock draft, all that stuff, there's a number of

1217
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:22,919
Speaker 1: possible targets late in the first round. Also, the last

1218
00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:25,560
Speaker 1: thing I would saying that it came close to being

1219
00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:29,840
Speaker 1: three first round picks, there was a chance the Ravens

1220
00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:31,760
Speaker 1: were going to draft the receiver at fourteen last year.

1221
00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:34,640
Speaker 1: That's why you know, when Eric's constituted the podcast afterwards,

1222
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:36,640
Speaker 1: he basically said, like, that's why we didn't let the

1223
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:38,760
Speaker 1: Hollywood News out of the bag early. They wanted to

1224
00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:40,800
Speaker 1: keep that possibility in case I wanted to take a

1225
00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:44,360
Speaker 1: receiver at fourteen. No, I completely feel you. I would say,

1226
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:46,640
Speaker 1: right now, if I'm ranking the likelihood, I would put

1227
00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:48,760
Speaker 1: wide receiver on top. I would say that's the most

1228
00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:51,080
Speaker 1: likely scenaric first round pick for the Ravens. I would

1229
00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:54,000
Speaker 1: put cornerback at number two. I don't think the Ravens

1230
00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:56,080
Speaker 1: don't want to be in a position, and thus I

1231
00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:58,240
Speaker 1: think that's why they'll sign a veteran wide receiver. They

1232
00:58:58,320 --> 00:58:59,800
Speaker 1: do not want to be in a position where they

1233
00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:02,400
Speaker 1: are locked into taking a first round wide receiver. No,

1234
00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:04,160
Speaker 1: they want to be locked in a position where they're

1235
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:06,240
Speaker 1: taking Like they're like, you gotta take you have you

1236
00:59:06,320 --> 00:59:08,840
Speaker 1: have to take first, have to take a corner exactly.

1237
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:10,720
Speaker 1: They that was all. That's like one of Ozzie You

1238
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:12,960
Speaker 1: some things that he said, like like you want to

1239
00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:14,920
Speaker 1: basically feel as many knees as possible so that when

1240
00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:16,280
Speaker 1: you get to the draft you can take best player

1241
00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:19,280
Speaker 1: available and have flexibility exactly. So, of course you don't

1242
00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:20,960
Speaker 1: want to be locked in there. But I think that,

1243
00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:23,959
Speaker 1: like based on some of the questions that still exist

1244
00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:29,080
Speaker 1: Bateman coming back from an injury, um the desire to

1245
00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:31,600
Speaker 1: build up, the desire to build out the passing attack,

1246
00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:34,360
Speaker 1: the players who are likely to be available on the market.

1247
00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:37,080
Speaker 1: I think all that points to a first round receiver.

1248
00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:40,360
Speaker 1: I would agree, uh some of the names just to

1249
00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:42,080
Speaker 1: toss him out there as a first round wide receiver.

1250
00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:43,560
Speaker 1: This kind of it kind of reminds me of the

1251
00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:47,960
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen Hollywood year where there's like there weren't the

1252
00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:50,320
Speaker 1: you know, a bunch of wide receivers projected to be

1253
00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:53,080
Speaker 1: taken one through ten or like a couple like this

1254
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:56,320
Speaker 1: past year. Yeah, they came flying off the board, like

1255
00:59:56,520 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 1: three or four of them. Yeah, you know, almost all

1256
00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:00,160
Speaker 1: in a row right before the Ravens are on the

1257
01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:02,920
Speaker 1: clock at fourteen. That doesn't seem to be the case

1258
01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:07,479
Speaker 1: this year. Uh. Quentin Johnston mel Kiper's initial mock draft

1259
01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:10,040
Speaker 1: has him going to the Ravens at number twenty two. Uh.

1260
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:13,200
Speaker 1: Kind of a big body guy out of TCU. Jackson

1261
01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:16,840
Speaker 1: Smith and Jigba from a Highest State struggle with injuries

1262
01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:18,560
Speaker 1: this past year, but the year before that, you're, mister

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Speaker 1: a high State. Give me the Jackson. I mean the

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Speaker 1: last time he was on the field and like full

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01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:24,440
Speaker 1: strength him and CJ stride he put up He put

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Speaker 1: up a three hundred and forty yards in the bowl

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Speaker 1: game and one game he put up three hundred plus

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Speaker 1: yards in one game. I mean, he's a great player.

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Speaker 1: He basically didn't play last year. He got a hamshering

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Speaker 1: injury early in the year and basically sat the rest

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Speaker 1: of the year out concerning you know, but what he

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Speaker 1: was on the field is there no doubt. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he was a dynamic player. Now mel Kiper has him

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Speaker 1: as his first wide receiver off the board. Uh, Jeremiah

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01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:52,800
Speaker 1: Daniel Jeremiah has him at number thirty one. So there's

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Speaker 1: not a consensus on where these guys rank. And for

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Speaker 1: that reason, I think another indicator of why it might

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Speaker 1: be a good year for the Ravens to pick a

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Speaker 1: first round of whider Well, that's uh. In some ways,

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Speaker 1: that's kind of encouraging if it is like the Hollywood draft,

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Speaker 1: because that draft ended up being pretty darned good at

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Speaker 1: wide receiver, amazing at wide receiver, yeah, Hollywood, AJ Brown

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Speaker 1: at Yeah, picks at wide receiver, Terry McLaurin yep, deep

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01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:15,480
Speaker 1: with Samuel yep. Pretty good receiver draft, pretty darn good,

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Speaker 1: and then and none of them went that year. Hollywood

1286
01:01:17,720 --> 01:01:20,360
Speaker 1: was the first one off the board. At twenty five. Yep, exactly,

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Speaker 1: So I'm just saying it could be that again. Yeah,

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01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:26,960
Speaker 1: Jordan Addison at a USC. Zay Flowers a smaller, you know,

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Speaker 1: more of a slot, shifty, fast guy out of Boston College.

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01:01:30,200 --> 01:01:35,320
Speaker 1: Jalen Hyatt out of Tennessee's a taller speed merchant on

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Speaker 1: the outside, kind of like almost like a d Jacks

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Speaker 1: to Seawan Jackson kind of looks like to me, just

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Speaker 1: a big play dude on the outside. Um So those

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01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:46,000
Speaker 1: are some of the names to keep an eye on

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Speaker 1: at wide receiver, and I think any of those sign

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Speaker 1: yell like I'm down with the first time a wide receiver.

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Speaker 1: And you know, I've I've talked to fans who are like,

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Speaker 1: why would you do that again? You know the Ravens history,

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01:01:57,840 --> 01:01:59,600
Speaker 1: you know what gives you confidence that they're going to

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01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:02,600
Speaker 1: hit a fir stround wide receiver again. Eric's cosses don't

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01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:05,320
Speaker 1: look like look at it like that period point blank.

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01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:07,640
Speaker 1: I mean a I think he thinks that, you know,

1303
01:02:08,080 --> 01:02:10,800
Speaker 1: with good reason. Hollywood Brown was not a miss like that.

1304
01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:13,520
Speaker 1: That was a hit. Hollywood Brown's turned out to be

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01:02:13,520 --> 01:02:16,160
Speaker 1: a pretty darn good wide receiver. Raven's got a first

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01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:18,240
Speaker 1: round pick and return for him. Yeah, trade him for that.

1307
01:02:18,320 --> 01:02:19,880
Speaker 1: So it shows you the rest of the league. You know,

1308
01:02:20,080 --> 01:02:22,760
Speaker 1: other teams three years after three years right turned out

1309
01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:27,240
Speaker 1: pretty well. Right, And I think he thinks Bateman obviously

1310
01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:29,680
Speaker 1: injuries have hampered his career, but they still, I think,

1311
01:02:29,680 --> 01:02:31,320
Speaker 1: are very high on Bateman in the talent and what

1312
01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:35,880
Speaker 1: he can become. So they do not feel like, nah,

1313
01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:38,680
Speaker 1: we're we we can't do this, We can't draft a

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01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:41,400
Speaker 1: good first round round receiver. No, that is not how

1315
01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:43,120
Speaker 1: they view it, and that's not how I view it either.

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01:02:43,200 --> 01:02:46,880
Speaker 1: Quite frankly. Also, I think that m part of the

1317
01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:48,400
Speaker 1: reason I think it's gonna be a first round receiver

1318
01:02:48,680 --> 01:02:51,160
Speaker 1: is you don't have a second round pick. You need

1319
01:02:51,240 --> 01:02:54,840
Speaker 1: immediate help receiver most likely, and like and long term

1320
01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:56,840
Speaker 1: help of course. But I'm just saying, like, if you

1321
01:02:56,960 --> 01:02:59,760
Speaker 1: draft a third round receiver, you cannot bank on that guy.

1322
01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:02,800
Speaker 1: What do you get? Right? What are you what are

1323
01:03:02,800 --> 01:03:05,200
Speaker 1: you getting this year out of that player? Exactly? It's

1324
01:03:05,280 --> 01:03:08,480
Speaker 1: not to be a number one, certainly, and it's probably

1325
01:03:08,560 --> 01:03:10,640
Speaker 1: not to be a number two. Gee. You know, I

1326
01:03:10,720 --> 01:03:12,760
Speaker 1: don't like to agree with you all much, but I

1327
01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:14,440
Speaker 1: will shake your hand that agree with you on the

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01:03:14,440 --> 01:03:17,160
Speaker 1: first round wide receiver I'm in. I think that's gonna

1329
01:03:17,160 --> 01:03:22,800
Speaker 1: be the case I'm in. Uh Now, cornerback is if

1330
01:03:22,840 --> 01:03:24,919
Speaker 1: they don't bring back Marcus Peters, as we've talked about,

1331
01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:27,520
Speaker 1: you could go Brandon Smith or Brandon Stevens, you could

1332
01:03:27,560 --> 01:03:29,120
Speaker 1: go to Jail Armor Davis. But I think then the

1333
01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:32,680
Speaker 1: need at cornerback is pretty high also, right and Eric's

1334
01:03:32,720 --> 01:03:34,280
Speaker 1: Cotton said, we never want to be short at corner

1335
01:03:34,360 --> 01:03:36,440
Speaker 1: We value. We know how much they've put value they

1336
01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:38,360
Speaker 1: put on the secondary. They had one of the highest,

1337
01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:41,480
Speaker 1: if not the highest cornerback room paid quarterback room in

1338
01:03:41,480 --> 01:03:44,520
Speaker 1: the NFL this past year. So you know, if you

1339
01:03:44,560 --> 01:03:46,720
Speaker 1: don't bring back Marcus Peters on free agent market, I

1340
01:03:46,760 --> 01:03:48,960
Speaker 1: don't think you're gonna sign You're not gonna spending money

1341
01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:51,880
Speaker 1: on a Bradley Roby or James Bradberry or Jonathan Jones.

1342
01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:54,240
Speaker 1: I mean, could you bring back to Anthony Averett. Maybe

1343
01:03:54,520 --> 01:03:56,320
Speaker 1: you know he had a broken thomb was limited seven

1344
01:03:56,320 --> 01:03:58,520
Speaker 1: games last year in Vegas. Like maybe you can have

1345
01:03:58,640 --> 01:04:02,040
Speaker 1: a mid level signing to bring in a veteran corner

1346
01:04:02,200 --> 01:04:04,480
Speaker 1: that you feel confident in. But I just don't see

1347
01:04:04,800 --> 01:04:07,320
Speaker 1: that either. I think more likely if you don't bring

1348
01:04:07,400 --> 01:04:10,720
Speaker 1: back Marcus Peters. You're probably going going into the year

1349
01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:13,800
Speaker 1: saying we think Brandon Stevens is ready, or maybe they

1350
01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:16,600
Speaker 1: bring back a Kyle Fuller, or we think that we

1351
01:04:16,720 --> 01:04:19,040
Speaker 1: have enough there to bridge the gap, and you're the

1352
01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:23,439
Speaker 1: likelihood of a first round corner goes up right again,

1353
01:04:25,200 --> 01:04:28,280
Speaker 1: You're already Hey, I'm on the records saying I want

1354
01:04:28,280 --> 01:04:30,560
Speaker 1: to bring back Marcus Peters. If they bring back Marcus Peters,

1355
01:04:30,640 --> 01:04:32,560
Speaker 1: just lock and load me for the first UK receip

1356
01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:35,360
Speaker 1: right now. I'm just saying, if that doesn't happen, like

1357
01:04:35,560 --> 01:04:38,400
Speaker 1: corner could be the position right in the first round

1358
01:04:38,440 --> 01:04:41,000
Speaker 1: in the draft. Again, it's kind of a wide receiver situation.

1359
01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:44,560
Speaker 1: A lot of corners. Mel Kiper has five cornerbacks in

1360
01:04:44,640 --> 01:04:47,000
Speaker 1: the first round in his initials. There's always a ton

1361
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Speaker 1: of corners in the first round. There's a lot, and

1362
01:04:49,160 --> 01:04:50,880
Speaker 1: it looks like a lot in the late first round.

1363
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Speaker 1: Joey Porter Junior, I would love that to take a

1364
01:04:54,760 --> 01:04:58,400
Speaker 1: former Steelers kid from Penn State. We all know, you know,

1365
01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:02,160
Speaker 1: Eric Costas kid goes Penn State. His daughter does uh

1366
01:05:02,560 --> 01:05:04,760
Speaker 1: he you know, he watches a lot of Penn State football.

1367
01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:08,080
Speaker 1: Could Joey Porter Junior be the guy like it. Yeah,

1368
01:05:08,240 --> 01:05:12,240
Speaker 1: good player, Christian Gonzalez out of Oregon. Uh, Devon Witherspoon

1369
01:05:12,240 --> 01:05:15,400
Speaker 1: out of Illinois, Deontay Banks from Maryland. Get a turp

1370
01:05:15,520 --> 01:05:19,680
Speaker 1: up in here. I'm down Emmanuel forbest from Mississippi State,

1371
01:05:19,760 --> 01:05:22,520
Speaker 1: guy who had fourteen picks over three the past three seasons.

1372
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Speaker 1: If you're talking about, you know, not bringing back Marcus Speeders,

1373
01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:29,560
Speaker 1: I think getting turnovers is a high priority for this team.

1374
01:05:29,640 --> 01:05:32,920
Speaker 1: Could he be a good fit? Um? Those you know,

1375
01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:34,960
Speaker 1: Tyreek Stevenson out of Miami, those are some of the

1376
01:05:35,080 --> 01:05:38,240
Speaker 1: names that that would be I think under consideration. Yeah,

1377
01:05:38,440 --> 01:05:41,000
Speaker 1: and we'll talk you know, a lot a lot more

1378
01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:43,680
Speaker 1: about the draft, a lot more about those guys. Um.

1379
01:05:45,080 --> 01:05:46,880
Speaker 1: But look, like I said at the top, I think

1380
01:05:46,920 --> 01:05:50,440
Speaker 1: this is I just think it's just such an interesting

1381
01:05:50,480 --> 01:05:53,400
Speaker 1: offseason and there's just so there's so many ways that

1382
01:05:53,440 --> 01:05:58,400
Speaker 1: could go and it's gonna be fun. Yeah, a lot

1383
01:05:58,440 --> 01:06:00,480
Speaker 1: of it. As we said at the beginning, you have

1384
01:06:00,640 --> 01:06:03,760
Speaker 1: to resolve the Lamar situation to know what you have. Yeah,

1385
01:06:03,840 --> 01:06:05,800
Speaker 1: that that is going to dictate how much money the

1386
01:06:05,880 --> 01:06:08,040
Speaker 1: Ravens have, which dictates how much salary cap space they

1387
01:06:08,080 --> 01:06:10,360
Speaker 1: have to clear, which dictates how much aggressive they can

1388
01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:12,400
Speaker 1: be in bringing back some of their unrestricted free agents,

1389
01:06:12,520 --> 01:06:14,640
Speaker 1: which dictates, you know, how aggressive they be on the

1390
01:06:14,720 --> 01:06:18,800
Speaker 1: open market all that stuff. Yeah, Lamar's the domino that

1391
01:06:19,240 --> 01:06:22,600
Speaker 1: needs to fall, so the cross that could happen anytime. Yeah,

1392
01:06:22,720 --> 01:06:24,400
Speaker 1: so let us know what you think of the off season,

1393
01:06:24,400 --> 01:06:26,560
Speaker 1: our off season plan in romp here. Let's know what

1394
01:06:26,640 --> 01:06:28,520
Speaker 1: you would like to see happen over the off season

1395
01:06:28,600 --> 01:06:31,800
Speaker 1: Laminating machine. You can email us. You can email us

1396
01:06:31,800 --> 01:06:34,880
Speaker 1: at the lounge at Ravenst, NFL di Net. Any great

1397
01:06:34,920 --> 01:06:37,160
Speaker 1: off season plans they get emailed in, we'll add them

1398
01:06:37,200 --> 01:06:39,480
Speaker 1: to the Laminator and then drop them off with our plans.

1399
01:06:42,200 --> 01:06:44,320
Speaker 1: We already get enough fans who are like, can you

1400
01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:46,240
Speaker 1: just tell the cosas? And I have to be like,

1401
01:06:46,560 --> 01:06:49,320
Speaker 1: it doesn't work that way, know the answers. No, my friends,

1402
01:06:49,400 --> 01:06:53,640
Speaker 1: I'm like, you don't understand my job. No, anyway, we'll

1403
01:06:53,720 --> 01:06:57,960
Speaker 1: laminate ours. Ours are going there. But yeah, thank you

1404
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Speaker 1: for listening as always, and we'll be back with you

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Speaker 1: next week. M