WEBVTT - Study Hall: Bitcoin & Cryptocurrency with Fritz Charles

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<v Speaker 4>got five days, all right, So now we're going to

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<v Speaker 4>go into what everybody's been waiting for. We're gonna break

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<v Speaker 4>down cryptocurrency. Before we go into cryptocurrency, we gotta tell

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<v Speaker 4>a story. We tell our own personal story about crypto.

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<v Speaker 2>We're all involved.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so if you know, if you if you listen

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<v Speaker 4>to the podcast, you know that a our theme is transparency.

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<v Speaker 4>We tell you know, our real stories in real life,

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<v Speaker 4>and our guests tell their reil stories. And we also

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<v Speaker 4>have the slogan of oney in shout out to nip

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<v Speaker 4>Rest in peace. But it's real because we really tried

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<v Speaker 4>everything at one point in time. We literally tried everything.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly.

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<v Speaker 4>He tried everything.

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<v Speaker 2>Listen.

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<v Speaker 4>So all right, so here's the story you on crypto currency. Right,

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<v Speaker 4>So two thousand and seventeen, right the draft, we got

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<v Speaker 4>to take it back to the draft of twenty seventeen.

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<v Speaker 4>So Donovan Mitchell shout out to Donovan Mitchell, right, hometown hero.

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<v Speaker 4>And we were at the Barclay Center because we're good

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<v Speaker 4>friends with his family and they invited us, and we

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<v Speaker 4>were at the sweep when he got drafted into the mess. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>once again, the Knicks screwed that up and didn't draft.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we were sitting there, like you know, the Knicks

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<v Speaker 2>had a chance to do it. He worked out for him.

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<v Speaker 2>Dad was like, I think he got a chance and Noe.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Frank, it didn't draft him, but he got drafted

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<v Speaker 4>buy Utah. But anyway, we were still with his family

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<v Speaker 4>and one of our good friends. Uh so, her kid

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<v Speaker 4>went to a private school and one of his friends.

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<v Speaker 4>This is why networking is so important, right, people that

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<v Speaker 4>you meet. His friend was like a twenty year old kid, right,

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<v Speaker 4>And I just met him and we was just talking randomly,

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<v Speaker 4>like what do you do for living? My financial advisors,

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<v Speaker 4>So we just started talking. Mind you, he's twenty years

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<v Speaker 4>old at this time. I think he's like a freshman

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<v Speaker 4>sophomore in college or something like that. And he's telling me,

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<v Speaker 4>He's like, you know, I just bought this Ethereum. He's like,

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<v Speaker 4>I put twenty thousand into ethereum. You know, I put

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<v Speaker 4>ten thousand to ethereum like five months ago and it

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<v Speaker 4>went to one hundred thousand. I cashed out. He said,

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<v Speaker 4>my friend put one hundred thousand into Ethereum. It went

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<v Speaker 4>to a million. He cashed out. He started a hedge

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<v Speaker 4>funt twenty years.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even think here he might have been twenty

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<v Speaker 2>I think he was eighteen nineteen. I think something like

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<v Speaker 2>that as a graduation gift.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well you know that. And that's the power of family,

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<v Speaker 4>of course, right he wasn't from our community, that's for them.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure.

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<v Speaker 4>So when he told me that, told Jamal, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 4>well we got it, Like what's this? Like this because

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<v Speaker 4>I heard about cryptocurrency. I heard about bitcoin, but I

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<v Speaker 4>ain't really hit by Ethereum. I'm like hold up, wait,

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<v Speaker 4>like what's going on here? And that's when I started

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<v Speaker 4>studying it, but I still was kind of apprehensive. I

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<v Speaker 4>ain't really sure. And then I see bitcoin. I'm just

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<v Speaker 4>studying it. I'm just a student of the game, and

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<v Speaker 4>like October, I see bitcoin just start climbing. It went

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<v Speaker 4>from like six thousand to seven thousand. No, it went

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<v Speaker 4>from like three thousand. It like four thousand to like

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<v Speaker 4>five thousand. So then I called my man shout to

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<v Speaker 4>Jason Lewis. I called him and he's a bitcoin expert,

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<v Speaker 4>and I'm like, okay, tell me everything I need to

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<v Speaker 4>know about cryptocurrency. He educated me for two and a

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<v Speaker 4>half hours, and I asked every single question that I

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<v Speaker 4>could have asked, like a thousand questions. Every question I

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<v Speaker 4>had educated on me on it, and that was like

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<v Speaker 4>around November.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that was like November.

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<v Speaker 4>Actually late October. It was late October. No, it was

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<v Speaker 4>like November November. It was November. So I'm like, all right, cool.

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<v Speaker 4>So I found out this app called coin bay where

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<v Speaker 4>you can buy cryptocurrency. Right, So he educated me and

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<v Speaker 4>he was telling me about like the three biggest currencies

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<v Speaker 4>at that time, which is light coin, Bigcoin, and Ethereum.

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<v Speaker 4>So he's telling me about it. So I'm like, all right,

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<v Speaker 4>you know what I'm gonna put my money in. I

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<v Speaker 4>put six thousand dollars and I told the group. I

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<v Speaker 4>told the guys. I'm like, look, I put six thousand

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<v Speaker 4>dollars and I spread it across the three coins. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not telling y'all to do this. This is money

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<v Speaker 4>that I feel comfortable losing because it's a risk. Like

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<v Speaker 4>I feel comfortable losing it if I lose it. But

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know what's gonna happen. So then me and

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<v Speaker 4>Jamaal we go to Asia for a month.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, this is now December. Yeah, we went to Asia.

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<v Speaker 4>For twenty days in December. First we left for twenty days.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't let that go over your heads. Twenty days.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, I let a life you can write a book on.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna write a book down a life done. But

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<v Speaker 4>we went to Asia with a return ticket. We went

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<v Speaker 4>with a ticket there and a ticket back and two

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<v Speaker 4>nights in bang Kak. That's it for twenty days. Were

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<v Speaker 4>gonna figure as we went. We just winged it. We

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<v Speaker 4>went to five different countries. Was just winging it as

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<v Speaker 4>we were literally winging it, like we were buying hotels

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<v Speaker 4>at the airport. He was just figuring it out day

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<v Speaker 4>to day. So I'm in Asia and it's just so

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<v Speaker 4>happened as fate would have it. I brought into the

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<v Speaker 4>crypto space like one week before it started the skyrocket.

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<v Speaker 4>But if anybody's not familiar, No, December of twenty seventeen

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<v Speaker 4>is legendary in crypto world. Like everything went up like

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<v Speaker 4>a thousand percent one hundred like it was crazy. So

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<v Speaker 4>long story short, I'm in Asia and I had six

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<v Speaker 4>thousand dollars invested. Every single day I'm waking up and

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<v Speaker 4>I'm just getting five hundred, six hundred more dollars is

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<v Speaker 4>going up seven thousand and eight thousand.

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<v Speaker 2>That it's just doping.

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<v Speaker 4>Mean, yeah, yeah, I'm out and I'm out in Thailand,

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<v Speaker 4>and I'm more focused on that than anything. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 4>this is crazy. I'm like, I'm about to make a

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<v Speaker 4>million dollars before summer. So Troy starts so I'm like,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm telling the guys. I'm like, I'm sending them screenshots

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<v Speaker 4>like I don't know what y'all doing. I'm getting money

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<v Speaker 4>out here. So troys like he starts studying it, like

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<v Speaker 4>he's start one thing about toys good with research. So

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<v Speaker 4>he starts studying it like he's up all night and

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<v Speaker 4>no sleep, and he starts telling me about all these

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<v Speaker 4>other coins, Tron and all of these different things. And

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<v Speaker 4>by meanwhile, I'm thinking I'm doing good because I'm going

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<v Speaker 4>up like one hundred percent, three hundred percent, four hundred.

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<v Speaker 4>He's like that's not enough. He's like, yeah, you earn him,

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<v Speaker 4>but that's not enough. These other coins going up one

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<v Speaker 4>thousand percent, three thousand percent. He's like, you got to

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<v Speaker 4>come home, Like I've never forgot. I was in Hong Kong.

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<v Speaker 4>I was in Hong Kong, and he called me.

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<v Speaker 2>Like come home. This is this is like fact, right,

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<v Speaker 2>So I heard about bitcoin prior to all this, right,

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<v Speaker 2>because I was in the music downloading the services. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>So at that time, the US has said early two thousand,

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<v Speaker 2>they were like, yo, they're going to prohibit illegal downloads. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>So that people started coming up with web sharing sites

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<v Speaker 2>like mega upload, rapid shit, if anybody downloaded music, you

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<v Speaker 2>know those sites. And one of the things as far

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<v Speaker 2>as payment was bitcoin, right, and there's no way that

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<v Speaker 2>the government can track you. So I'm like, all right,

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<v Speaker 2>that sounds pretty cool. And then I never heard about

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<v Speaker 2>it again. Right, people were using it. I kept seeing it.

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<v Speaker 2>I never heard about it until like November, and I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, yo, I'm putting money in. Like he's like

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<v Speaker 2>two weeks from leaving. I'm like, hey, whatever, And then

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<v Speaker 2>like he said, he started texting us. I'm like, yo,

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<v Speaker 2>just he actually made some money. So now it's like, nah,

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<v Speaker 2>I gotta figure this out. So he leaves and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>like still trying to figure this out. I'm studying it

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<v Speaker 2>and studying it, and like I never forget. I read

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<v Speaker 2>the artist this article on this dude, Justin's son who

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<v Speaker 2>created trying t rex, and so I'm like, wow, this

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<v Speaker 2>guy has a vision for currency, Like he's going to

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<v Speaker 2>do it through video games, right, I'm thinking, like, wow,

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<v Speaker 2>like Guys of War, like these are these games where

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<v Speaker 2>it's like it's not real money anymore, like people are

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<v Speaker 2>actually using currency inside of games. It's like how before Fortnite,

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<v Speaker 2>it was like, yo, we'll give you a game for free,

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<v Speaker 2>but you'll buy things in it. And I'm like, all right, well,

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<v Speaker 2>how do I get this? Right? So after I start

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<v Speaker 2>studying it, right, I knew Coinbase and I'm like, this

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<v Speaker 2>gotta be more to this because I can't even find

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<v Speaker 2>t rex on Coinbase, and so I still and then

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<v Speaker 2>I hear this this this company called Binance, And when

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<v Speaker 2>I went to but I'm telling you, it was like

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<v Speaker 2>three in the morning, I had to wait because they

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<v Speaker 2>were on like yeah, twelve hours ahead.

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<v Speaker 4>I was like twelve hours.

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<v Speaker 2>I waited. I said, listen, get you on, y'all gotta

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<v Speaker 2>come home. I was like, yo, book a flight back.

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<v Speaker 2>I found something. I said, that's a fact. We found something.

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<v Speaker 4>He kept talking about trying. He was like this, trying,

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<v Speaker 4>like I.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't know, man, about tron I was like, less than

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<v Speaker 2>a cent.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, it's funny, literally, you know you were like

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<v Speaker 3>in the Homer Tronk.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>I was right spot he just had to find that community.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it was crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember it was it was Hong Kong. Was Hong

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<v Speaker 2>Kong because I remember in the background was all these lights.

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<v Speaker 4>I was Hong Kong. I was like, Yo, Jamal almost

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<v Speaker 4>died story first story, but a different days he almost died.

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<v Speaker 4>But I was a Hong Kong by myself, and I

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<v Speaker 4>had all these lights in the background. You like, come home.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, I'm in Asian. I'm having the time of

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<v Speaker 4>my life.

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<v Speaker 2>Come home right now.

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<v Speaker 4>So so we came home, and when I got home,

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<v Speaker 4>the first thing I did, I came his house and

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<v Speaker 4>he educated me on how to like buy buy coin.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a whole process. We're gonna talk about that, but

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<v Speaker 4>how to buy coins, how to put the money in.

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<v Speaker 2>All that stuff, right, markets, all that.

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<v Speaker 4>So then I sow. So anybody that knows me know

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<v Speaker 4>that I kind of have an addictive personality. I've never

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<v Speaker 4>done any drugs in my life, and I'm a light drinker,

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<v Speaker 4>but I'm very compulsive. It's worked out a lot of times.

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<v Speaker 4>It's been very bad for me a lot of times

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<v Speaker 4>as well. But I make very compulsive decisions. So when

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<v Speaker 4>I started, I started making money and I'm like, okay,

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<v Speaker 4>so now educated myself on what we call all coins.

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<v Speaker 4>We'll explain that later too. So then I just started,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, you know what, I just started rolling the dice.

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<v Speaker 4>I started like buying coins and doing on and hours.

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<v Speaker 4>It was crazy. So by like the first week in January,

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<v Speaker 4>my six thousand grew to twenty eight thousand, yep, twenty

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<v Speaker 4>eight thousand dollars in a month, six thousand and twenty

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<v Speaker 4>eight in a month. And I'm feeling like Warren Buffett.

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<v Speaker 2>We said it to ourselves, We're like, yo, if we

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<v Speaker 2>don't make one hundred thousand by June, we did something.

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<v Speaker 4>Now that I was feeling out, I told you I

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<v Speaker 4>was planning on making eight hundred thousand yea in crypto

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<v Speaker 4>for that year. We calculated, calculations, did the whole thing.

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<v Speaker 4>So everything wait, everything fell apart, not yet, no.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, early January it went, it went down, but

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<v Speaker 2>then it came back like late January, like all right,

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<v Speaker 2>we're back, we're back, right.

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<v Speaker 4>I fell apart, I put more money in, I'm buy

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<v Speaker 4>the dip, and then it fell apart again, and I

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<v Speaker 4>put more money in. I said, I'm buying this dip.

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<v Speaker 4>And then it just completely collapsed and.

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<v Speaker 2>He gave up on the space.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So but I said this, I said this. I said, look,

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<v Speaker 2>if it was gonna die, would them right? And one

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<v Speaker 2>of the things I heard that was powerful to me

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<v Speaker 2>is the CEO of Ripples said this. He was like,

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<v Speaker 2>the reason that this is gonna work is because if

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<v Speaker 2>you think about money, right, what's the fastest way to

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<v Speaker 2>get one hundred thousand dollars from San Francisco to London?

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<v Speaker 2>What do you think this is? It's crypto? He was like,

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<v Speaker 2>the fastest way in today's society, right, twenty and eighteenth

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<v Speaker 2>is to get on a plane and fly with that

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<v Speaker 2>money to London. How is that work in the world

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<v Speaker 2>of technology? Right, That's why Ripple and all these other

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<v Speaker 2>old coins and bitcoin, that's why it's gonna work. And

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<v Speaker 2>when he said that, I'm like, nah, I don't care.

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<v Speaker 2>This is gonna go down. This is not going anywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>And so like one of the things we did too,

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<v Speaker 2>and for sure it was like we were like, look,

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<v Speaker 2>we're not letting anybody get daft on the boat. Like

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<v Speaker 2>if they missed the cyber bubble right in the nineties, right,

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<v Speaker 2>if that is this, we got to make sure that

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<v Speaker 2>we get to Google. We got to make sure that

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<v Speaker 2>we get Amazon and we don't get stuck with Excite

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<v Speaker 2>dot com. But we're not leaving anybody. So I was like, Yo,

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<v Speaker 2>call everybody you know, Like we're gonna call everybody we

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<v Speaker 2>know so we can tell them how this works and

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<v Speaker 2>teach them. And like we made mad phone calls and

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<v Speaker 2>it was like, Yo, nobody wants to learn. People ain't

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<v Speaker 2>ain't players Like nah, I'm good.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, So now we gave you my story. It's

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<v Speaker 4>a tragic story.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a learning Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>So all right, So can we talk about crypto leistart

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<v Speaker 4>one on one? Right? What is cryptocurrency?

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<v Speaker 3>So cryptocurrency is uh digital asset that lives on the

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<v Speaker 3>Internet that has value and where does the vit come from?

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<v Speaker 3>It comes from people saying it has value? Right, And

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<v Speaker 3>it's that simple and so and it's that simple, but

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<v Speaker 3>was also that fickle based on what you just said, right?

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<v Speaker 3>And the question is like a lot of people say

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<v Speaker 3>or houses the currency? How's inking occurrency? Anything is the currency?

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<v Speaker 3>Because currency back by anything is a belief, right, and

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<v Speaker 3>it's a belief that it's if more people believe that

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<v Speaker 3>it's going to go up in the future, then more

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<v Speaker 3>people buy. It's a supplying the main thing, and that's

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<v Speaker 3>what kind of moves it. But yes, it's a digital

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<v Speaker 3>asset that lives on the Internet and there's you could

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<v Speaker 3>transfer it without any middle man, so you don't need

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<v Speaker 3>the experience. Is similar to like a Venmo experience or

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<v Speaker 3>zell experience or whatever cash experience. If you don't have cash,

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<v Speaker 3>you don't have cash up in the middle. What's in

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<v Speaker 3>the middle is actually a community people that validate every transaction.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's so right, So that's the definition of the blockchain. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>it is validated by the blockchain exactly.

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<v Speaker 4>So yeah, so crypto current. But the name is little

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<v Speaker 4>deceiving because it's not really being used as currency right now.

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<v Speaker 4>It's more of an investment, right right, So.

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<v Speaker 3>It's an investment because due to people, due to the

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<v Speaker 3>way it's moved and bigcoin being the first cryptocurrency, it's

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<v Speaker 3>moving up and down based on the story you just said.

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<v Speaker 3>People don't want to use it as a currency. So

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<v Speaker 3>it's made to be a currency. It's made to allow

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<v Speaker 3>people to move money back and forth. But because of

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<v Speaker 3>the way it's structured. So bitcoin is structure in a

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<v Speaker 3>way where there's a limited supply, right, it was a

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<v Speaker 3>seventeen million, it's seventeen million now, but the max is

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<v Speaker 3>twenty one million. So people are anticipating at that point

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<v Speaker 3>that it's going to be worth a lot, and so

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<v Speaker 3>it's kind of transferred from a currency to more of

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<v Speaker 3>a digital goal.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's like it's being viewed as a commodity.

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<v Speaker 4>Value exactly, right. So that's what Jason told me. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>so all right, because this is something that's interesting. So

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<v Speaker 4>people say, like, well, cryptocurrency is in thin air, it's

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<v Speaker 4>not physical, it's not backed by anything, and I say,

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<v Speaker 4>neither is the American dollar. American dollar used to be

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<v Speaker 4>backed by gold, but I think in Nixon he changed it.

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<v Speaker 4>He removed the gold standard. So now the American dollar,

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<v Speaker 4>like most all dollars all over the world, there's only

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<v Speaker 4>back by the faith when in Americas, told by American

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<v Speaker 4>American dollars only back by the faith of the people

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<v Speaker 4>people think that it's worth what it's worth. So at

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<v Speaker 4>any point in time, when the vast majority of people

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<v Speaker 4>think the American dollar isn't worth anything, it's not worth

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<v Speaker 4>anything any.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Because I mean it's like you said, with bitcoin,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a limited supplied. Once it gets to twenty one million,

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<v Speaker 2>there's no more, right, so that the value of that

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<v Speaker 2>will go up obviously, right. So that's why you get

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<v Speaker 2>those projections like bitcoin will be worth five hundred thousand

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<v Speaker 2>dollars for one coin, whereas a dollar. They can make

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<v Speaker 2>a million of those every second, exactly day. So like,

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<v Speaker 2>what's the real value?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, so we have okay, So so bitcoin, that's what

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<v Speaker 4>most people have heard about bitcoin. Bitcoin is the first crypto,

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<v Speaker 4>the granddaddy of crypto currency, started by Shadoshi na Kamoto.

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<v Speaker 2>Anybody found them in there's a lot of people.

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<v Speaker 4>Nobody knows Satoshi Knockamoto. Did I say that correctly?

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<v Speaker 2>That was good, bro, I got that was good.

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<v Speaker 4>Anybody's not. The whole crypto thing is crazy. Anybody's not

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<v Speaker 4>familiar to Guy's a legend. Nobody even knows that he's

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<v Speaker 4>if he a actually ever really existed, or if he's

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<v Speaker 4>a group of people, or if he's one person, or

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<v Speaker 4>if he's still living, who knows. But he's the founder

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<v Speaker 4>of crypto because he made bitcoin. Right then, from Bitcoin,

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<v Speaker 4>you have thousands of cryptocurrencies, over two thousands. You have

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<v Speaker 4>a whole bunch of different Ethereum to Ripple, and they

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<v Speaker 4>all kind of serve different purposes. So you have some

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<v Speaker 4>that are like for just music, you have it's like

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<v Speaker 4>all kinds of differences like websites now, like you have

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<v Speaker 4>a web site for everything, and you have a cryptocurrency

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<v Speaker 4>for everything.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and then you have so like from those right,

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<v Speaker 2>the top three you named Bitcoin, Ethereum, those are like platforms,

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<v Speaker 2>so people build on those platforms. So like Ethereum like

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<v Speaker 2>a bunch of platforms that get built on. There is

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<v Speaker 2>like a digital computer, right right, you can build on

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<v Speaker 2>top of it. You could the Ethereum introduce the concept

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<v Speaker 2>of a smart contract, right. A smart contract is basically

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<v Speaker 2>a digital contract that says if then if this happens,

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<v Speaker 2>then this happens. Right, and uh, the way I like

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<v Speaker 2>to illustrated is a vending machine is a smart contract, right,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I don't need like I go to corner store

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<v Speaker 2>and get a Twizzlers. If I go to vendom machine,

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<v Speaker 2>I put a dollar in, there's code inside a venom

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<v Speaker 2>machine that gives me the Twizzlers immediately. And Ethereum takes

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<v Speaker 2>that and makes it a whole other level.

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<v Speaker 3>Right. If you think about the Internet, most of the

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<v Speaker 3>like any website anything. The way it works is if

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<v Speaker 3>then if this and that. If I like going to

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<v Speaker 3>Gmail dot com and I put in my password, if

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<v Speaker 3>the pastor was good, then it gives me access. If

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<v Speaker 3>the past was not good, then it tells me you

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<v Speaker 3>got the gown pass. So the theorem was the first

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<v Speaker 3>time to take that that cold and put it on

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<v Speaker 3>the blockchain makes it, makes it decentralized because like what

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<v Speaker 3>I did the Spain.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a key word too, decentralized it right.

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<v Speaker 3>So Google centralized, like it lives like the way that

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<v Speaker 3>the code works lives on Google servers in Mountain View, California,

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<v Speaker 3>obviously throughout the world, but like that is where the

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<v Speaker 3>hub is, that vending machine, Like that code is in

0:19:35.840 --> 0:19:39.520
<v Speaker 3>that vendom machine. But the way that blockchain and crypto

0:19:39.680 --> 0:19:42.440
<v Speaker 3>is done, it actually distributes the code around the whole

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<v Speaker 3>world or whoever wants to be a validator and then

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<v Speaker 3>that's it. And so it decentralizes it. It makes it democratic,

0:19:50.359 --> 0:19:53.200
<v Speaker 3>and it makes it limitless as well as borderless.

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<v Speaker 2>That was one of those those key words in that

0:19:55.720 --> 0:19:58.760
<v Speaker 2>space is decentralized. And it was like if you think

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<v Speaker 2>about it like a company, like right, like a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of times, and it's coming up in the news now

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<v Speaker 2>that that you know, the federal government is looking into them.

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<v Speaker 2>But that data that's being sold, right, they're like the

0:20:08.520 --> 0:20:10.560
<v Speaker 2>middle man selling it right, right. That's one of the

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<v Speaker 2>things with this space is like there is no middle guy,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean, So it makes it.

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<v Speaker 4>Everybody right, Well, the one thing and that's one thing

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<v Speaker 4>that I said. So when I first my first reservation

0:20:22.240 --> 0:20:24.760
<v Speaker 4>before I started investing in cryptocurrency, I made a video

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<v Speaker 4>on Instagram and it was my reservations on bitcoin, right,

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<v Speaker 4>because everybody kept asking me my feelings about bitcoin, and

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<v Speaker 4>I said this. What I said was, I think it's

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<v Speaker 4>a good idea in theory, and I think that it's dope.

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<v Speaker 4>But my biggest fear is that governments control currency, and

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<v Speaker 4>at any point in time, when governments feel that they

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<v Speaker 4>don't have full control of the currency or it's not

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<v Speaker 4>benefiting them, then they'll stop it. One of the reasons

0:20:52.400 --> 0:20:57.040
<v Speaker 4>why cryptocurrencies really fell in twenty eighteen is because governments

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<v Speaker 4>across the world cracked down on them.

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<v Speaker 2>Are China, South Korea, they just said what not, you

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<v Speaker 2>can't trade and then like if you were in the

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<v Speaker 2>United States, like this was we ran into this problem too.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like we couldn't buy on certain exchanges. So

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<v Speaker 2>like one of those things like you said, like as

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<v Speaker 2>far as like stocks, you can go to different exchanges.

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<v Speaker 5>Coach, the energy out there felt different. What changed for

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<v Speaker 5>the team today?

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<v Speaker 2>It was the new game day scratches from the California

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<v Speaker 2>Lottery players.

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<v Speaker 4>Everything those games sent the team's energy through the roof.

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<v Speaker 5>Are you saying it was the off field play that

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<v Speaker 5>made the difference on the field.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, little play makes your day, and today it made

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<v Speaker 4>the game.

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<v Speaker 5>That's all for now, Coach one more question play than

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<v Speaker 5>New Los Angeles Chargers, San Francisco forty nine ers and

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<v Speaker 5>Los Angeles Rams scratchers from the California Lottery. A little

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<v Speaker 5>play can make your day. Peacely, responsibly. Must be eighteen

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<v Speaker 5>years or older to purchase plate or claim because we were.

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<v Speaker 2>US citizens, right, so we had to drive you Icos, right,

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<v Speaker 2>that was yeah, that was yeah, I lost somebody and

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<v Speaker 2>that yeah. So ICOS initial episode. So ice Heil was

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<v Speaker 2>the equivalent of an IPL. So like that's an initial

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<v Speaker 2>coin offering. So when these companies are coming up with ideas, right,

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<v Speaker 2>they need funding for it, they make an ic I.

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<v Speaker 3>Think it's important to illustrate why so many coins could exist.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's over two thousand cryptocurrencies right now us. You

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<v Speaker 3>could actually create an ey L token tomorrow. The reason

0:24:18.480 --> 0:24:21.960
<v Speaker 3>why is because the currency is cold and the code

0:24:22.080 --> 0:24:24.440
<v Speaker 3>is open source. So I could go and actually see

0:24:24.760 --> 0:24:27.720
<v Speaker 3>how big cooin works, and I could actually create big

0:24:27.960 --> 0:24:30.440
<v Speaker 3>I could change the B to F and make it

0:24:31.280 --> 0:24:34.040
<v Speaker 3>fit coin and fritz coin is that that's the white paper.

0:24:34.400 --> 0:24:36.440
<v Speaker 3>That's the white paper, right, So that's how it starts.

0:24:36.440 --> 0:24:40.560
<v Speaker 3>That's how social Malkamoto, the group or whoever this individual

0:24:40.720 --> 0:24:43.920
<v Speaker 3>is bigcoin was introduced through the introduction of a white

0:24:43.960 --> 0:24:45.520
<v Speaker 3>paper and the white paper basic it was like this

0:24:46.280 --> 0:24:48.959
<v Speaker 3>cold slash business plan that said how it works, how

0:24:49.000 --> 0:24:52.400
<v Speaker 3>the code works, and everybody can see everybody can see

0:24:52.440 --> 0:24:54.280
<v Speaker 3>exactly how it works, so anybody can pick it up

0:24:54.440 --> 0:24:57.399
<v Speaker 3>and copy it. Right, But just because you pick it

0:24:57.520 --> 0:24:59.080
<v Speaker 3>up and copy it doesn't mean that people are going

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<v Speaker 3>to follow.

0:24:59.520 --> 0:25:02.159
<v Speaker 2>You need a community behind it too. Yeah. So like that,

0:25:02.480 --> 0:25:04.040
<v Speaker 2>that's how you get these other coins. Like if you

0:25:04.080 --> 0:25:07.880
<v Speaker 2>look now on the on like coin market cap, you'll

0:25:07.920 --> 0:25:10.680
<v Speaker 2>see like a bitcoin gold or a big city like

0:25:11.080 --> 0:25:13.159
<v Speaker 2>they'll say like, hey, we got that cold from that

0:25:13.240 --> 0:25:15.280
<v Speaker 2>white paper, but we're gonna make it even better. Yeah,

0:25:15.359 --> 0:25:15.720
<v Speaker 2>tweak it.

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<v Speaker 4>That's why it's like different. And another thing that was

0:25:19.800 --> 0:25:22.680
<v Speaker 4>she did was he he made it open sourced, so

0:25:22.880 --> 0:25:27.200
<v Speaker 4>anybody can change the cold It's an ongoing process of bitcoin.

0:25:27.240 --> 0:25:29.479
<v Speaker 4>It's changing. Anybody can really, you could change it, right,

0:25:29.800 --> 0:25:32.760
<v Speaker 4>It's not something that's set in stone. He did that

0:25:33.359 --> 0:25:37.080
<v Speaker 4>So his vision and how I see it is that

0:25:37.200 --> 0:25:41.200
<v Speaker 4>his vision was to eliminate the world banks and government

0:25:41.320 --> 0:25:43.160
<v Speaker 4>from like he wanted to make it peer to peer

0:25:43.880 --> 0:25:47.200
<v Speaker 4>and also open source, evolving where it's for the people.

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<v Speaker 3>It was actually funny enough. It goes back to my story.

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<v Speaker 3>Like Leam Brothers, he's great. In two thousand and eight,

0:25:53.840 --> 0:25:57.600
<v Speaker 3>he was these It derives out of the community of

0:25:57.720 --> 0:26:00.800
<v Speaker 3>libertarians and archists, so people that didn't trust the government

0:26:01.280 --> 0:26:06.440
<v Speaker 3>and there was level of high distrust amongst people from

0:26:06.520 --> 0:26:09.600
<v Speaker 3>the financial system in general. Just because Villas went down

0:26:10.040 --> 0:26:12.280
<v Speaker 3>and he had a community, he said, listen, I'm gonna

0:26:12.280 --> 0:26:15.080
<v Speaker 3>create this thing that doesn't need banks. Like we could

0:26:15.119 --> 0:26:18.200
<v Speaker 3>actually work without banks. We can work without the government,

0:26:18.280 --> 0:26:21.880
<v Speaker 3>and we could transact with each other trustless. And that's

0:26:22.080 --> 0:26:23.840
<v Speaker 3>that's kind of what where the fervor came from.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's crazy, all right. So we read a lot

0:26:29.320 --> 0:26:31.960
<v Speaker 2>of white peoples, man, we read a lot of white people.

0:26:32.400 --> 0:26:37.040
<v Speaker 4>So all right, so tax, right, because that's what you're

0:26:37.080 --> 0:26:40.679
<v Speaker 4>doing now with the tax. So that's another issue because

0:26:41.520 --> 0:26:44.960
<v Speaker 4>everything is so new that the government's trying to like

0:26:45.160 --> 0:26:47.760
<v Speaker 4>catch up to it. Right, So we know how like

0:26:47.880 --> 0:26:50.240
<v Speaker 4>real estate is tax a certain way stocks a tax

0:26:50.320 --> 0:26:53.320
<v Speaker 4>a certain way. It's called capital gains tax. So can

0:26:53.359 --> 0:26:56.480
<v Speaker 4>you explain the taxes on that, because that's that's what

0:26:56.560 --> 0:26:57.680
<v Speaker 4>you're working with now, right.

0:26:57.680 --> 0:26:59.440
<v Speaker 3>Right, right, So I'll work with a company goo token

0:26:59.520 --> 0:27:03.320
<v Speaker 3>tax and so the easy explanation is like TurboTax of

0:27:03.359 --> 0:27:07.239
<v Speaker 3>crypto and so crypto, if you trade crypto, it's very

0:27:07.280 --> 0:27:11.080
<v Speaker 3>hard to calculate your taxes because the assumption is that,

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<v Speaker 3>all right, I go from let's say you're from the US,

0:27:13.280 --> 0:27:16.119
<v Speaker 3>I go from dollar to crypto, and then I go

0:27:17.240 --> 0:27:19.520
<v Speaker 3>from back to crypto back to dollar.

0:27:19.600 --> 0:27:21.240
<v Speaker 2>That's when I have to pay taxes.

0:27:21.280 --> 0:27:23.399
<v Speaker 3>But actually, when you're in the crypto world, like we

0:27:23.440 --> 0:27:25.920
<v Speaker 3>said as about two thousand cryptos, you could trade from

0:27:25.920 --> 0:27:29.160
<v Speaker 3>crypto to crypto and you actually have to All those

0:27:29.200 --> 0:27:32.879
<v Speaker 3>things are taxical transactions. It's as if you when you

0:27:33.000 --> 0:27:35.199
<v Speaker 3>sell one for the other, the government actually looks at

0:27:35.240 --> 0:27:39.200
<v Speaker 3>that as a sell and a buy. And also there's

0:27:39.200 --> 0:27:41.040
<v Speaker 3>other things like you could actually work for crypto and

0:27:41.080 --> 0:27:43.640
<v Speaker 3>get paid in crypto. That's taxable. You also buy things

0:27:43.720 --> 0:27:46.720
<v Speaker 3>in crypto and you that's also a taxable transaction. So

0:27:46.800 --> 0:27:49.879
<v Speaker 3>all of that is pretty is complex to calculate. And

0:27:50.000 --> 0:27:52.920
<v Speaker 3>so the company I work with. This software basically hooks

0:27:52.960 --> 0:27:55.879
<v Speaker 3>into all the all the wallets, all the exchanges and

0:27:56.000 --> 0:28:00.720
<v Speaker 3>pullsing your transactions and converts the dollar equipment. So an

0:28:00.800 --> 0:28:03.000
<v Speaker 3>example is, all right, I go from dollar to bitcoin,

0:28:03.080 --> 0:28:06.000
<v Speaker 3>and I trade bigcoin to ethereum. Then I trade from

0:28:06.040 --> 0:28:07.840
<v Speaker 3>ethereum back to maybe ripple.

0:28:08.000 --> 0:28:09.720
<v Speaker 2>Right, I didn't go back to dollars.

0:28:09.800 --> 0:28:13.560
<v Speaker 3>But all those three transactions are tactical because when I

0:28:13.600 --> 0:28:17.200
<v Speaker 3>went from bitcoin to bitcoin to ether, there I have

0:28:17.320 --> 0:28:20.600
<v Speaker 3>to actually look at the USD value of bitcoins from

0:28:21.160 --> 0:28:23.879
<v Speaker 3>each time and convert it back, even though I didn't

0:28:24.000 --> 0:28:27.000
<v Speaker 3>go into dallars. So we allow that calculation.

0:28:27.280 --> 0:28:28.960
<v Speaker 2>And the government, I mean, they just put out an

0:28:29.000 --> 0:28:31.480
<v Speaker 2>article last week where they're going to start taxing. They

0:28:31.560 --> 0:28:33.320
<v Speaker 2>sent out ten thousand letters.

0:28:33.080 --> 0:28:36.159
<v Speaker 3>To people who So going back to how crypto started,

0:28:36.200 --> 0:28:39.720
<v Speaker 3>obviously with UH there's a lot of anarchists, libertarians, and

0:28:39.800 --> 0:28:41.920
<v Speaker 3>a lot of these people are like anti taxes because they.

0:28:41.840 --> 0:28:42.600
<v Speaker 2>Don't trust the government.

0:28:42.640 --> 0:28:45.320
<v Speaker 3>They the government is doing the right thing, and people

0:28:45.880 --> 0:28:47.840
<v Speaker 3>were under the false belief that you don't have to

0:28:47.840 --> 0:28:50.360
<v Speaker 3>pay taxes on crypto. But one of the things, one

0:28:50.400 --> 0:28:52.440
<v Speaker 3>of the one of the things that they created was

0:28:52.680 --> 0:28:56.440
<v Speaker 3>transparency in the blockchain, and so yes, the transparence, but

0:28:56.880 --> 0:29:00.200
<v Speaker 3>arrests also see that those transactions too, right, So you

0:29:00.400 --> 0:29:03.400
<v Speaker 3>actually are exposing yourself, so you actually have to pay

0:29:03.440 --> 0:29:04.000
<v Speaker 3>taxes on that.

0:29:04.480 --> 0:29:06.520
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, And what's what's coin coin Gamma?

0:29:06.840 --> 0:29:10.120
<v Speaker 3>So coin Gamma is my own media platform. So it

0:29:10.200 --> 0:29:12.040
<v Speaker 3>started with an app that I built as a side

0:29:12.080 --> 0:29:15.280
<v Speaker 3>project in twenty fifteen. Twenty seventeen, I expanded it to

0:29:15.840 --> 0:29:18.400
<v Speaker 3>a blog as well as a podcast where I interview

0:29:18.760 --> 0:29:23.080
<v Speaker 3>leaders in the space and just provide education. And so

0:29:24.160 --> 0:29:26.480
<v Speaker 3>what we do is we write about the space, we

0:29:26.800 --> 0:29:30.720
<v Speaker 3>offer educational content, we interview leaders in the space, and

0:29:31.240 --> 0:29:33.719
<v Speaker 3>we're actually going to start coming up with digital courses

0:29:33.800 --> 0:29:36.640
<v Speaker 3>where people could kind of teach teaching. Yeah, so I've

0:29:36.680 --> 0:29:39.760
<v Speaker 3>taught some some in person classes. So I've taught in

0:29:39.840 --> 0:29:43.040
<v Speaker 3>person classes in New York City and also I've taught

0:29:43.440 --> 0:29:45.959
<v Speaker 3>at my alma Motors. So I've lectured at Warton as

0:29:46.040 --> 0:29:48.960
<v Speaker 3>well as through college around crypto blockchain. But I'll be

0:29:49.160 --> 0:29:51.560
<v Speaker 3>doing some online courses over the next few weeks.

0:29:51.600 --> 0:29:53.920
<v Speaker 2>I got a question, so in terms of like we

0:29:54.000 --> 0:29:55.400
<v Speaker 2>said that crypto is kind of like the wild wild

0:29:55.400 --> 0:29:57.960
<v Speaker 2>West a little bit, right, So like want to exchange

0:29:58.000 --> 0:29:59.600
<v Speaker 2>and We've seen this happen a bunch of times. Want

0:29:59.600 --> 0:30:04.920
<v Speaker 2>to exchange completely disappears, Right, how does someone even recoup

0:30:04.960 --> 0:30:06.280
<v Speaker 2>a try to figure out the taxes on that?

0:30:06.760 --> 0:30:12.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so the IRS hasn't given clear guidance around there.

0:30:12.200 --> 0:30:16.200
<v Speaker 3>So this is a disclaimer. Does not tax device. Confirm

0:30:16.280 --> 0:30:20.960
<v Speaker 3>this with your tax account tax expert. But you could

0:30:21.000 --> 0:30:24.440
<v Speaker 3>either if it's an exchange, if it's a coin that

0:30:24.920 --> 0:30:27.320
<v Speaker 3>because it was only an exchange, it doesn't exist anymore.

0:30:27.760 --> 0:30:28.040
<v Speaker 2>You could.

0:30:28.040 --> 0:30:30.760
<v Speaker 3>Basically what we've had people do is they've actually written

0:30:30.840 --> 0:30:33.160
<v Speaker 3>enough at zero and basically it's like I lost everything

0:30:33.240 --> 0:30:35.600
<v Speaker 3>on it, right, But if it's something like bigcoin that

0:30:35.760 --> 0:30:40.320
<v Speaker 3>exists but the exchange just went out, you you just

0:30:40.440 --> 0:30:42.800
<v Speaker 3>lost it, like you can't really write it off, right,

0:30:42.880 --> 0:30:45.720
<v Speaker 3>That's I guess we jumped a little levels. We could

0:30:45.880 --> 0:30:49.720
<v Speaker 3>talk about the risks like there's market risk, but actually

0:30:49.800 --> 0:30:52.840
<v Speaker 3>just like operational risks in this space, that makes it very.

0:30:52.800 --> 0:30:56.280
<v Speaker 4>Hard to I was going to ask you, like, okay,

0:30:56.320 --> 0:30:58.640
<v Speaker 4>one on one, Right, if somebody wants to start investing

0:30:58.680 --> 0:31:01.800
<v Speaker 4>in cryptocurrency, right, they have a thousand dollars and they

0:31:01.840 --> 0:31:05.560
<v Speaker 4>want they want to do it because it's not it's easy. Well,

0:31:06.080 --> 0:31:08.480
<v Speaker 4>all right, how do you invest in cryptocurrency?

0:31:08.640 --> 0:31:10.240
<v Speaker 3>All right? I mean it depends where you are, but

0:31:10.280 --> 0:31:12.840
<v Speaker 3>if you're in the US, you take it. You have

0:31:12.960 --> 0:31:15.240
<v Speaker 3>to take your dollars, you have to be you have

0:31:15.320 --> 0:31:19.680
<v Speaker 3>to transact on exchange that actually takes fiat, which is

0:31:19.760 --> 0:31:23.280
<v Speaker 3>dollars and converts to crypto. Not most exchanges actually do

0:31:23.360 --> 0:31:27.000
<v Speaker 3>not do that. So you mentioned Finance earlier. Finance doesn't

0:31:27.040 --> 0:31:31.000
<v Speaker 3>take dollars, right, most, but there are some major exchanges

0:31:31.040 --> 0:31:32.920
<v Speaker 3>in the US that take dollars and converted for you.

0:31:33.320 --> 0:31:36.479
<v Speaker 3>And it's similar to like buying something on PayPal. Right,

0:31:36.800 --> 0:31:40.560
<v Speaker 3>so Coinbase is the most popular. Another one is rott

0:31:40.720 --> 0:31:43.920
<v Speaker 3>is robbin robber, Right, that just happened in New York, Right,

0:31:43.960 --> 0:31:47.640
<v Speaker 3>we just got that. Another one is the cash app, Right,

0:31:47.720 --> 0:31:49.520
<v Speaker 3>So if you use you used the cash app to

0:31:49.640 --> 0:31:52.400
<v Speaker 3>pay friends or family for you know, dinner or something

0:31:52.440 --> 0:31:54.160
<v Speaker 3>like that. You actually could buy big cooin in the

0:31:54.200 --> 0:31:57.720
<v Speaker 3>same way. But if you wanted to buy another cryptocurrency,

0:31:58.800 --> 0:32:00.920
<v Speaker 3>so if it's if it's a crypt currency. So not

0:32:01.080 --> 0:32:03.880
<v Speaker 3>all cryptocurrencies on every change. So if there's a crypt

0:32:03.960 --> 0:32:08.000
<v Speaker 3>if so, Coinbase has a limited supply of cryptos. Same

0:32:08.040 --> 0:32:10.880
<v Speaker 3>thing as as same thing with the other apps I mentioned,

0:32:10.920 --> 0:32:13.560
<v Speaker 3>so the cash app as well as the robbin of app.

0:32:13.640 --> 0:32:16.040
<v Speaker 3>But if you want to do some of the other cryptos,

0:32:16.080 --> 0:32:20.040
<v Speaker 3>you actually have to basically buy the bigcoin or ethereum

0:32:20.160 --> 0:32:22.640
<v Speaker 3>or on coin base, then move it to the other

0:32:22.760 --> 0:32:25.880
<v Speaker 3>exchange right and then you could transact on the change.

0:32:26.040 --> 0:32:28.480
<v Speaker 2>And that's how people get caught up here. It's extremely

0:32:28.520 --> 0:32:29.320
<v Speaker 2>complicated toorius.

0:32:29.360 --> 0:32:33.160
<v Speaker 4>Big had a legendary line, he said, shiokly for live man,

0:32:33.280 --> 0:32:37.840
<v Speaker 4>not for fresh cryptocurrency. Don't play around with it if

0:32:37.880 --> 0:32:39.200
<v Speaker 4>you don't understand what you're doing.

0:32:39.560 --> 0:32:41.800
<v Speaker 2>Because there's been plenty of days where we got calls

0:32:41.880 --> 0:32:44.880
<v Speaker 2>like yo, not money, didn't go through. What happened? What happened.

0:32:45.240 --> 0:32:48.120
<v Speaker 4>Actually, it's probably gotten more user friendly now. I don't

0:32:48.120 --> 0:32:51.080
<v Speaker 4>even look at it anymore. I have my money invested,

0:32:51.280 --> 0:32:52.800
<v Speaker 4>but I don't look at it. But at one point

0:32:52.800 --> 0:32:54.720
<v Speaker 4>I was looking at it every day. But it was

0:32:54.800 --> 0:32:57.520
<v Speaker 4>extremely complicated when we first got in because you had to,

0:32:57.840 --> 0:33:02.479
<v Speaker 4>like you said, you can't buy crypto currency with American dollars.

0:33:02.560 --> 0:33:06.480
<v Speaker 4>You can trade dollars for bitcoin or ethereum or ethereum

0:33:06.560 --> 0:33:08.720
<v Speaker 4>or light coin and coin base at that time that time,

0:33:09.240 --> 0:33:13.880
<v Speaker 4>and then you can buy the other coins. It was

0:33:14.000 --> 0:33:16.960
<v Speaker 4>mainly Bitcoin or ethereum. Some of them you can buy

0:33:17.000 --> 0:33:18.520
<v Speaker 4>a light coin, but must of them. So you had

0:33:18.600 --> 0:33:21.320
<v Speaker 4>so let's say you wanted to buy tron, right, you

0:33:21.440 --> 0:33:25.040
<v Speaker 4>had to exchange American money for bitcoin on coin Base.

0:33:26.080 --> 0:33:30.440
<v Speaker 4>From coin Base, you had to send your bigcoin to

0:33:31.160 --> 0:33:35.440
<v Speaker 4>Finance Exchange and it went now it's in Finance, then

0:33:35.640 --> 0:33:36.640
<v Speaker 4>now it's in binance.

0:33:36.760 --> 0:33:39.600
<v Speaker 2>Now don't skip the step because that that the transaction

0:33:39.680 --> 0:33:41.320
<v Speaker 2>speed was so slow, which is one of the things

0:33:41.360 --> 0:33:43.280
<v Speaker 2>about bitcoin. So you had to So let's say you

0:33:43.320 --> 0:33:46.360
<v Speaker 2>sent a thousand or five thousand dollars right, it would

0:33:46.400 --> 0:33:48.520
<v Speaker 2>take maybe a half hour before it even.

0:33:48.360 --> 0:33:50.840
<v Speaker 4>Got Bitcoin was oh d I remember one kind Bitcoin

0:33:50.920 --> 0:33:53.800
<v Speaker 4>took me five hours. I'm like, where's the customer service? Like,

0:33:53.960 --> 0:33:58.560
<v Speaker 4>I'm like, going on, it's crazy. But the crazy thing

0:33:59.120 --> 0:33:59.600
<v Speaker 4>I mean if you.

0:34:00.000 --> 0:34:02.960
<v Speaker 3>If I was to if I was on the Venmo

0:34:03.080 --> 0:34:05.160
<v Speaker 3>or cash app and I sent it to the wrong person,

0:34:05.680 --> 0:34:07.880
<v Speaker 3>I could hit up cash at and say, yo, I

0:34:07.920 --> 0:34:10.200
<v Speaker 3>sent it, Ye, you made mistake, give me a charge back.

0:34:10.480 --> 0:34:13.080
<v Speaker 3>If I said, if I Big America and I put

0:34:13.440 --> 0:34:15.440
<v Speaker 3>that wire the money the wrong person, I can call

0:34:15.480 --> 0:34:19.960
<v Speaker 3>them Big America. It may a mistake because this thing

0:34:20.040 --> 0:34:23.000
<v Speaker 3>is decentralized, is owned by you, and it's owned you

0:34:23.120 --> 0:34:24.800
<v Speaker 3>also mistakes.

0:34:25.120 --> 0:34:27.279
<v Speaker 4>It's in the black hole now so so then all right,

0:34:27.360 --> 0:34:30.560
<v Speaker 4>so now it's in binance, and then from now you

0:34:30.719 --> 0:34:34.640
<v Speaker 4>have to buy tron with the bitcoin and binance. So

0:34:34.719 --> 0:34:36.640
<v Speaker 4>it's like a three part process. What happens is that

0:34:36.800 --> 0:34:38.239
<v Speaker 4>and then you had so when you send it, they

0:34:38.280 --> 0:34:40.360
<v Speaker 4>send you a code. It's a code that you have

0:34:40.440 --> 0:34:42.240
<v Speaker 4>to put in to send it to one place to another.

0:34:42.640 --> 0:34:44.960
<v Speaker 4>This is something that is extremely important. This happened to me.

0:34:45.000 --> 0:34:47.320
<v Speaker 4>Happened to me on my birthday two years ago. I

0:34:47.440 --> 0:34:49.400
<v Speaker 4>was I sent five hundred dollars. I was trying to

0:34:49.440 --> 0:34:53.840
<v Speaker 4>buy bigcoin gold or was it bitcoin cash. There's another bitcoin,

0:34:53.920 --> 0:34:56.359
<v Speaker 4>whether bitcoin cash, bitcoin case. I was trying to buy

0:34:56.400 --> 0:35:01.719
<v Speaker 4>bitcoin cash, but I put the hold for bitcoin. Long

0:35:01.800 --> 0:35:03.799
<v Speaker 4>story short, I sent the wrong code. After I said,

0:35:03.840 --> 0:35:07.680
<v Speaker 4>I'm like, damn, so I go back. I'm like, I said,

0:35:07.760 --> 0:35:09.720
<v Speaker 4>five hundred dollars, but I sent it to the wrong address.

0:35:10.960 --> 0:35:15.880
<v Speaker 4>I'm going. Now it's going. It's it's nobody to track it.

0:35:15.960 --> 0:35:18.000
<v Speaker 4>It's just it's in the universe.

0:35:18.320 --> 0:35:19.120
<v Speaker 2>Somebody else gone.

0:35:19.360 --> 0:35:24.399
<v Speaker 4>Somebody lost like twenty one bitcoins like that, they lost

0:35:24.440 --> 0:35:27.319
<v Speaker 4>twenty one bitcoins because they sent it to the wrong

0:35:27.360 --> 0:35:31.040
<v Speaker 4>address or something and just gone.

0:35:30.920 --> 0:35:33.239
<v Speaker 2>It's crazy, man. But like even like that, it was

0:35:33.320 --> 0:35:35.680
<v Speaker 2>like there's so many steps to it, like this is

0:35:35.800 --> 0:35:38.040
<v Speaker 2>not like we weren't sleeping like legit were sleeping. It

0:35:38.160 --> 0:35:39.239
<v Speaker 2>was like, you know what, I'm not eve gonna do

0:35:39.320 --> 0:35:41.320
<v Speaker 2>this transaction to the morning, but by the time you

0:35:41.360 --> 0:35:43.920
<v Speaker 2>wake up, the value could have gone up by like

0:35:44.040 --> 0:35:44.480
<v Speaker 2>a thousand.

0:35:45.120 --> 0:35:48.239
<v Speaker 3>So because of that, you probably do moving so fast

0:35:48.320 --> 0:35:50.719
<v Speaker 3>and frantic because you I gotta buy this, gotta bother this,

0:35:50.840 --> 0:35:53.319
<v Speaker 3>and that leaves you open to making that mistakes even

0:35:53.320 --> 0:35:55.240
<v Speaker 3>if you are sho now it's moving like a fiend.

0:35:55.480 --> 0:35:56.640
<v Speaker 3>I was moving now.

0:35:56.680 --> 0:35:58.279
<v Speaker 4>I was moving like a fiend, like because it was like,

0:35:59.120 --> 0:36:00.840
<v Speaker 4>we gotta do this right now. Oh they just so

0:36:01.080 --> 0:36:04.000
<v Speaker 4>I'm like halfway like a week trying to do this

0:36:04.120 --> 0:36:06.000
<v Speaker 4>on my phone and it's like damn, like I didn't

0:36:06.000 --> 0:36:07.719
<v Speaker 4>really have time to really think about it. But you

0:36:07.840 --> 0:36:11.600
<v Speaker 4>become addicted. You can. It's very addictive, especially at that

0:36:11.640 --> 0:36:13.160
<v Speaker 4>time because there was so much money being made and

0:36:13.160 --> 0:36:14.920
<v Speaker 4>it was moving so fast, and anything with crypto is

0:36:14.960 --> 0:36:16.759
<v Speaker 4>that it's twenty four hours. It's like the stock market

0:36:16.800 --> 0:36:20.280
<v Speaker 4>on steroids, stock market, they close. They you know, it's

0:36:20.600 --> 0:36:23.520
<v Speaker 4>way more structure. Cryptos like the wild wild West. It's

0:36:23.520 --> 0:36:25.640
<v Speaker 4>twenty four hours a day, and you have with these

0:36:25.719 --> 0:36:29.520
<v Speaker 4>called whales, and these whales are like these are like

0:36:29.600 --> 0:36:32.800
<v Speaker 4>the big dogs, like the cryptos. Really it's really controlled.

0:36:32.840 --> 0:36:34.840
<v Speaker 4>It's like all things. Even though it was made for

0:36:34.920 --> 0:36:37.560
<v Speaker 4>the people, it's only controlled by like a handful of

0:36:37.600 --> 0:36:42.360
<v Speaker 4>people that have millions, billions of dollars and they move it.

0:36:42.840 --> 0:36:44.920
<v Speaker 4>They move the market so crazy and.

0:36:44.960 --> 0:36:47.719
<v Speaker 2>They sellcoin's gonna drop exactly right now.

0:36:47.800 --> 0:36:49.480
<v Speaker 4>They know they know what they're doing. So it's like

0:36:49.560 --> 0:36:52.759
<v Speaker 4>it's hard to day trade in that space because you

0:36:52.920 --> 0:36:54.480
<v Speaker 4>get eating up. You get eating up.

0:36:54.520 --> 0:36:56.239
<v Speaker 2>That's what I saying. Like even if you're sitting in

0:36:56.239 --> 0:36:57.920
<v Speaker 2>front of your computer, it's like you can't watch them

0:36:57.960 --> 0:37:00.759
<v Speaker 2>all like it. I mean, this was like no sleep

0:37:00.920 --> 0:37:03.480
<v Speaker 2>for like two months. Like you'll get text message like

0:37:03.520 --> 0:37:05.279
<v Speaker 2>a group chat. It would be like I remember what

0:37:05.400 --> 0:37:09.680
<v Speaker 2>tron went from less than a penny to like fifteen cents.

0:37:09.760 --> 0:37:11.800
<v Speaker 2>I was like to thank you text for just coming in.

0:37:11.920 --> 0:37:14.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm like I woke up, like yo, what happened? Like

0:37:14.880 --> 0:37:15.320
<v Speaker 2>I missed it?

0:37:15.560 --> 0:37:17.279
<v Speaker 4>You know what I'm saying now because I brought Tron

0:37:17.320 --> 0:37:20.760
<v Speaker 4>at two cents and it went to thirty eight cents.

0:37:21.120 --> 0:37:23.279
<v Speaker 4>I think the highest that it got to it thirty

0:37:23.320 --> 0:37:25.759
<v Speaker 4>eight cents. So that's why, like I said, when I

0:37:25.840 --> 0:37:28.360
<v Speaker 4>went to swim from six thousand to twenty eight thousand,

0:37:28.400 --> 0:37:32.440
<v Speaker 4>I had a couple I brought Ripple at like ninety

0:37:32.600 --> 0:37:35.920
<v Speaker 4>cents and I sold Ripple at like three dollars and

0:37:36.000 --> 0:37:40.400
<v Speaker 4>fifteen cents. So it was like the good Times was rolling.

0:37:41.640 --> 0:37:44.520
<v Speaker 4>Good Times was rolling. The good Times is rolling. But

0:37:45.040 --> 0:37:48.680
<v Speaker 4>all right, so can we talk about like you said, okay,

0:37:48.800 --> 0:37:51.080
<v Speaker 4>so now we got established of how to actually buy it,

0:37:51.120 --> 0:37:53.120
<v Speaker 4>how do you evaluate coins? Like, how do you know

0:37:53.760 --> 0:37:55.040
<v Speaker 4>which coin to buy?

0:37:55.719 --> 0:37:55.759
<v Speaker 3>Like?

0:37:56.800 --> 0:37:58.239
<v Speaker 4>How did somebody do that?

0:37:58.600 --> 0:38:03.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's a hard one. I think the space is early.

0:38:04.360 --> 0:38:07.239
<v Speaker 3>None of a lot of these things are moving. A

0:38:07.280 --> 0:38:09.320
<v Speaker 3>lot of these things are actually pre products, right, So

0:38:09.480 --> 0:38:13.240
<v Speaker 3>people a lot of these coins out there are raising

0:38:13.360 --> 0:38:15.000
<v Speaker 3>money on a hope.

0:38:15.160 --> 0:38:17.640
<v Speaker 2>Right. They're going out there and they're.

0:38:17.239 --> 0:38:19.560
<v Speaker 3>Pitching like a white paper, which is like their business plan,

0:38:20.040 --> 0:38:22.440
<v Speaker 3>and they're saying, all right, well if you give us

0:38:22.440 --> 0:38:25.279
<v Speaker 3>the money, and you'll get a coin and you will

0:38:25.360 --> 0:38:27.000
<v Speaker 3>be able to use it for X, Y and z,

0:38:27.800 --> 0:38:31.080
<v Speaker 3>and you have to study that. You have to look

0:38:31.080 --> 0:38:33.719
<v Speaker 3>at their technology, right, because sometimes a lot of these

0:38:33.760 --> 0:38:36.279
<v Speaker 3>coins actually are like you said, you took a bigcoin goal,

0:38:36.400 --> 0:38:38.319
<v Speaker 3>bigcoin cash, there's like a bunch of big coins. There's

0:38:38.520 --> 0:38:40.680
<v Speaker 3>light coin. There's a bunch of coins that actually are

0:38:40.760 --> 0:38:42.879
<v Speaker 3>trying to do exactly what the major ones are doing.

0:38:43.239 --> 0:38:45.400
<v Speaker 3>And what they're doing is tweaking it and say all right,

0:38:45.440 --> 0:38:47.640
<v Speaker 3>we're going to be faster, we're going more secure, all

0:38:47.719 --> 0:38:49.600
<v Speaker 3>that kind of stuff. And so you have to figure

0:38:49.600 --> 0:38:52.800
<v Speaker 3>out whether that story resonates with you, right, So you

0:38:52.880 --> 0:38:56.880
<v Speaker 3>have to study that. But most importantly, you could believe that,

0:38:57.320 --> 0:39:00.359
<v Speaker 3>but because of supply demand is actually you need other

0:39:00.400 --> 0:39:03.120
<v Speaker 3>people believe it too, right, Like you could believe in

0:39:03.239 --> 0:39:10.319
<v Speaker 3>that new Christian Islamic religion or that new whatever religion. Right,

0:39:10.400 --> 0:39:12.520
<v Speaker 3>but you may be the only person at church or

0:39:12.520 --> 0:39:16.680
<v Speaker 3>a mosque or the or whatever by yourself, right unless

0:39:16.680 --> 0:39:19.400
<v Speaker 3>you bring it. So it is very religious in certain

0:39:19.400 --> 0:39:22.239
<v Speaker 3>spects because it's their community aspects. Because of the value

0:39:22.320 --> 0:39:26.320
<v Speaker 3>of these of these assets are them going up, so

0:39:26.400 --> 0:39:29.040
<v Speaker 3>you need more people to buy it, or they're able

0:39:29.160 --> 0:39:32.520
<v Speaker 3>to be used amongst the community between each other. So

0:39:32.600 --> 0:39:35.719
<v Speaker 3>if you're the only person that if you get into

0:39:35.800 --> 0:39:37.920
<v Speaker 3>it and then people don't follow you, or a community

0:39:37.960 --> 0:39:40.200
<v Speaker 3>doesn't follow you, then they're not gonna go up, no

0:39:40.320 --> 0:39:43.040
<v Speaker 3>matter how strong you believe it to be. So you

0:39:43.200 --> 0:39:46.120
<v Speaker 3>not only have to analyze the fundamentals of it, you

0:39:46.239 --> 0:39:49.440
<v Speaker 3>also have to read what other people think about. So

0:39:50.080 --> 0:39:52.560
<v Speaker 3>a lot of research is actually spending time on Twitter,

0:39:53.080 --> 0:39:57.600
<v Speaker 3>spending time on Reddit, spending time on these apps like

0:39:57.719 --> 0:40:01.000
<v Speaker 3>Telegram and discord where people are talking and seeing what

0:40:01.080 --> 0:40:03.799
<v Speaker 3>the energy is like. And so it makes no sense

0:40:03.880 --> 0:40:06.160
<v Speaker 3>to have to make your investment decisions based on what

0:40:06.239 --> 0:40:08.440
<v Speaker 3>other people think. But in this space is just the

0:40:08.520 --> 0:40:09.279
<v Speaker 3>way it is now.

0:40:09.320 --> 0:40:12.000
<v Speaker 4>They got they got the whole terminology like hold total

0:40:12.200 --> 0:40:15.760
<v Speaker 4>total h O L D h O d L hold

0:40:15.840 --> 0:40:16.520
<v Speaker 4>on for their life.

0:40:16.640 --> 0:40:16.839
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:40:16.960 --> 0:40:20.520
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, to the moon was like rocket. It was like

0:40:20.600 --> 0:40:22.319
<v Speaker 4>when something was going up to the moon. That when

0:40:23.719 --> 0:40:28.960
<v Speaker 4>they called those all coins shit coins, it's.

0:40:28.600 --> 0:40:31.799
<v Speaker 2>Old coins with just any coin outside of the top three.

0:40:31.880 --> 0:40:32.960
<v Speaker 2>Really basically, you know.

0:40:33.000 --> 0:40:35.360
<v Speaker 4>It's a whole culture. Cryptocurrency was a whole culture.

0:40:35.360 --> 0:40:36.960
<v Speaker 2>I mean, we studied it down to the t right

0:40:37.000 --> 0:40:40.080
<v Speaker 2>when we started. I know, Shoddy when he's amazing with numbers,

0:40:40.120 --> 0:40:42.920
<v Speaker 2>So he started studying the market caps for each one,

0:40:43.400 --> 0:40:45.160
<v Speaker 2>and then after we saw the market caps, we saw

0:40:45.200 --> 0:40:47.200
<v Speaker 2>the coin supply. Right, like when you said that they

0:40:47.239 --> 0:40:49.600
<v Speaker 2>have twenty one million, that means like, yo, in this space,

0:40:49.680 --> 0:40:51.759
<v Speaker 2>that's pretty limited. But then you get a coin that

0:40:51.960 --> 0:40:53.560
<v Speaker 2>that will come out as like there's only two thousand

0:40:53.640 --> 0:40:58.360
<v Speaker 2>of it, right, whereas like Ripple was like something like

0:40:58.560 --> 0:41:00.440
<v Speaker 2>crazy billion or something like that. It's crazy, you know

0:41:00.440 --> 0:41:02.120
<v Speaker 2>what I'm saying. So like you can see like, hey,

0:41:02.239 --> 0:41:04.520
<v Speaker 2>what's the growth on that. It's sixty five billion, and

0:41:04.600 --> 0:41:07.800
<v Speaker 2>it's only at like right now, it's probably like fifty

0:41:07.840 --> 0:41:09.880
<v Speaker 2>one cent. It's like, well, how high can this really go?

0:41:09.960 --> 0:41:11.640
<v Speaker 2>This ain't gonna be a twenty dollars, you know what

0:41:11.640 --> 0:41:12.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying. It's too many of them.

0:41:12.520 --> 0:41:14.879
<v Speaker 3>But here's the problem with show. You know, we talked

0:41:14.880 --> 0:41:18.160
<v Speaker 3>about the Fiat currencies like the dollar, year, et cetera,

0:41:18.520 --> 0:41:21.400
<v Speaker 3>and how there's each they have like a federal reserve

0:41:21.480 --> 0:41:25.080
<v Speaker 3>that could create unlimited supply. A big coin doesn't have

0:41:25.400 --> 0:41:28.240
<v Speaker 3>like a group of people. All these other coins actually

0:41:28.239 --> 0:41:30.440
<v Speaker 3>are centralized, so they're actually a little bit more like

0:41:31.160 --> 0:41:33.640
<v Speaker 3>Fiat money. So yes, they could go out with the

0:41:33.680 --> 0:41:35.839
<v Speaker 3>white people says that we're gonna limit it, but there's

0:41:35.880 --> 0:41:38.560
<v Speaker 3>been coins that like they were out and like the

0:41:39.000 --> 0:41:40.880
<v Speaker 3>they just the people that were behind it or the

0:41:40.920 --> 0:41:42.000
<v Speaker 3>company behind it decided to.

0:41:42.040 --> 0:41:43.560
<v Speaker 2>Just change the call we're gonna do more. Yeah, we're

0:41:43.560 --> 0:41:44.200
<v Speaker 2>gonna do more.

0:41:44.520 --> 0:41:47.560
<v Speaker 3>Right, And there's no you know that it's it's a

0:41:47.640 --> 0:41:50.000
<v Speaker 3>wild West because there's no sec to like stop them.

0:41:50.280 --> 0:41:52.040
<v Speaker 3>There's like there's a lot of coin you know, in

0:41:52.120 --> 0:41:55.560
<v Speaker 3>twenty seventeen, a lot of coins you know, raise all

0:41:55.600 --> 0:41:58.400
<v Speaker 3>that money and they were supposed to come out with

0:41:58.520 --> 0:42:00.239
<v Speaker 3>things and they bounced.

0:42:00.120 --> 0:42:01.399
<v Speaker 2>Right, feel took my money.

0:42:01.480 --> 0:42:03.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's scary, but like I think one thing that

0:42:04.080 --> 0:42:06.640
<v Speaker 3>you know ra Sean talked about earlier is like you

0:42:06.719 --> 0:42:08.640
<v Speaker 3>put six ks like that was that was what you

0:42:08.719 --> 0:42:11.719
<v Speaker 3>could lose, Like even to this day, like I don't

0:42:12.200 --> 0:42:15.000
<v Speaker 3>put money you could lose, like do not. At that time,

0:42:15.120 --> 0:42:16.840
<v Speaker 3>I would get text with people like hey, like my

0:42:16.960 --> 0:42:20.680
<v Speaker 3>retirement's not right, like putting money in retirement.

0:42:21.960 --> 0:42:24.319
<v Speaker 2>And like nah, only play with what you could lose.

0:42:25.200 --> 0:42:26.719
<v Speaker 4>Now, I don't don't play with the big boys if

0:42:26.719 --> 0:42:28.560
<v Speaker 4>you're not if you're not ready, man, because like I said,

0:42:28.640 --> 0:42:32.239
<v Speaker 4>now it's real talk. We don't have control over this.

0:42:32.640 --> 0:42:35.880
<v Speaker 4>It's very and we have control over anything but especially

0:42:35.920 --> 0:42:38.160
<v Speaker 4>crypto because it's very thin. It's very thin, and that's

0:42:38.200 --> 0:42:40.399
<v Speaker 4>one of the things that actually got me involved. Once

0:42:40.440 --> 0:42:42.239
<v Speaker 4>I saw the market cap. I saw the market cap,

0:42:42.280 --> 0:42:44.920
<v Speaker 4>it was like one hundred what's the market cap.

0:42:44.880 --> 0:42:47.880
<v Speaker 2>Now, it's probably like two hundred and the two hundred.

0:42:47.840 --> 0:42:49.480
<v Speaker 4>Million, right, no, no billion?

0:42:50.120 --> 0:42:51.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so we got a pretty hot to like nine

0:42:52.000 --> 0:42:54.080
<v Speaker 2>hundred a trillion.

0:42:54.160 --> 0:42:55.600
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it was supposed hit a trillion by the time.

0:42:55.640 --> 0:42:57.239
<v Speaker 4>I don't think it was even at a billion at

0:42:57.239 --> 0:42:58.760
<v Speaker 4>that time. I think it was like nine hundred million

0:42:58.840 --> 0:43:00.880
<v Speaker 4>something like that Bone Story show. Even where it's at

0:43:01.000 --> 0:43:03.239
<v Speaker 4>now a couple hundred billion, that's not a lot of money.

0:43:03.320 --> 0:43:04.680
<v Speaker 4>That sounds like a lot of money, but that's really

0:43:04.680 --> 0:43:05.799
<v Speaker 4>not a lot of It's really not.

0:43:05.840 --> 0:43:08.239
<v Speaker 3>A lot because if you look at traditional assets. I

0:43:08.360 --> 0:43:10.839
<v Speaker 3>tell people all the time, Yeah, the whole crypto market

0:43:11.040 --> 0:43:14.000
<v Speaker 3>is two hundred and fifty billion dollars, but guess what,

0:43:14.440 --> 0:43:18.520
<v Speaker 3>Fidelity one investment shop has seven trillion of assets. That's

0:43:18.520 --> 0:43:21.480
<v Speaker 3>the fact for themselves, seven trillion, right, So like this

0:43:21.680 --> 0:43:23.720
<v Speaker 3>is this is a spectam.

0:43:25.480 --> 0:43:26.920
<v Speaker 4>When I first got into it, I'm like, look, it's

0:43:26.920 --> 0:43:28.880
<v Speaker 4>a lot more room for it to grow because the

0:43:28.960 --> 0:43:31.400
<v Speaker 4>market value is so low, and that's one of the

0:43:31.480 --> 0:43:33.080
<v Speaker 4>things that made me get into and that's one of

0:43:33.120 --> 0:43:35.760
<v Speaker 4>the reasons why I still actually hold out hope because

0:43:35.800 --> 0:43:36.440
<v Speaker 4>I feel like.

0:43:36.520 --> 0:43:39.960
<v Speaker 3>That's why I said, if it was going to die now,

0:43:40.000 --> 0:43:41.680
<v Speaker 3>I would have died over the last year.

0:43:42.040 --> 0:43:42.600
<v Speaker 2>Exactly right.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like people people gave it the bigcoin went down,

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<v Speaker 3>people like it's over, like it's a wrap, and it

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<v Speaker 3>came back up, and it's trading, kind of trading, and

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<v Speaker 3>we never know why.

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<v Speaker 4>oh my drop beg drops.

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