1 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 1: Welcome to the bye week edition of the Minnesota Vikings 2 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:10,479 Speaker 1: Podcast presented by PEPs. My name is Gabe Henderson. I'm 3 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 1: inside the TCO Radio studio alongside Jaynelson from Vikings dot Com. 4 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 1: And Jay I hate to talk Vikings football after a loss, 5 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 1: but when you have an extra week to prepare for 6 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:24,319 Speaker 1: your next opponent, I want to use this time to 7 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 1: kind of dissect, maybe vent, maybe get some of our 8 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 1: thoughts out. Following the twelve to ten loss to the 9 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:33,199 Speaker 1: Chicago Bears this past Monday Night, it was one of 10 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 1: those games where you went into it with so much 11 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 1: excitement Sunday Night football the previous week. Josh Dobbs finally, 12 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:42,880 Speaker 1: I guess when people say came back down to the Earth, 13 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:45,239 Speaker 1: didn't have his best performance against the Denver Broncos, so 14 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 1: you wanted to see how this offense bounce back didn't 15 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:51,559 Speaker 1: do so as well as people would have liked. He 16 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 1: threw four interceptions. This offense couldn't get gone as much 17 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 1: as they wanted to. But defensively that was the bread 18 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 1: and butter of this entire Minnesota Vikings team. But just 19 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 1: not enough. That last driver of the game for this 20 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings defense. They give up three points a game 21 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 1: winning field goal to Cairo Santos. When you look at 22 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 1: just this twelve to ten loss to the Chicago Bears 23 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:15,319 Speaker 1: this past Monday night, what are some things that stand 24 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 1: out to you? 25 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:17,959 Speaker 2: My biggest thing was just missed opportunity. You know, I 26 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 2: was hoping, I think everyone was hoping that get this 27 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:22,679 Speaker 2: one right going into the buy, go off on a 28 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:25,320 Speaker 2: positive note and then look forward to Las Vegas. I 29 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 2: think the hardest part was just kind of the miscues 30 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:31,319 Speaker 2: and everything that we saw. Four turnovers was a kind 31 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 2: of a thing that really stood out. And you know, 32 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 2: Kevin's talked about this repeatedly, saying, we know what this is. 33 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 2: You know for us, I think the hard part was 34 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 2: just seeing those four turnovers and then knowing we got 35 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 2: a couple back, and just the margin of error there 36 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 2: was so razor thin. It felt like it was kind 37 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 2: of a difference maker. I mean, you've what held them 38 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 2: to opponents in the last two weeks. I think you've 39 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 2: held them to nine field goals in a touchdown, and 40 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 2: you've lost both of those games by combining three points. 41 00:01:57,360 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 2: So I think the biggest thing is coming up here 42 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 2: after the buye you got five weeks to kind of 43 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 2: figure it all out and get it right. And I 44 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 2: think that the hope here is that coaches, front office, 45 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 2: everyone will go kind of back to their corners, do 46 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 2: some R and R a little bit, but also kind 47 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 2: of do a little self scouting to figure out what 48 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 2: they need to do to make everything right for the 49 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 2: last month and really push through. Because here's the thing, 50 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 2: we're still in the playoffs currently, and you know, we 51 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 2: control our own destiny on that kind of stuff, So 52 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:24,839 Speaker 2: let's get it right and make sure that you put 53 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 2: your best foot forward for that last month and make 54 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 2: it completely worth it come January. 55 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the interesting part of this entire thing. We 56 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:35,639 Speaker 1: were talking off air before, just talking about you know, 57 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 1: this December football is similar to September baseball for MLB teams, 58 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 1: and you want to be playing your best football. And 59 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 1: in my opinion, I believe this is the best time 60 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 1: to have the buy for this Vikings team with all 61 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 1: the adversity that they face. But I'm interested to see 62 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 1: when it comes to self scouting during the Bowie bye week, 63 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 1: that's when most teams, you know, go back and look 64 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 1: at the previous games that they've played instead of looking 65 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 1: at opponents. I'm interested to see how much Brian fleor 66 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 1: As is involved in the offense of self scout. If 67 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 1: I'm Kevin O'Connell, bflow, what are some things that I'm 68 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 1: missing out on? How would you defend Josh Dobbs if 69 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 1: you were playing against him? What are some things that 70 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: we can capitalize on using his strengths, using his arm talent, 71 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 1: using his leg talent. So I'm sure there's going to 72 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 1: be a lot of talk. This week is Wednesday that 73 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 1: we're recording this podcast. Players are off this week, but 74 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 1: I believe the football side of the parking lot is 75 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 1: more packed with cars than the business side. So the 76 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 1: football side, I feel like they're not taking this bye 77 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 1: week lightly. They're using this time to stay inside the 78 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 1: firm room, get in the playbook, and find opportunities for 79 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 1: Josh Dobbs and this offense to continue to find ways 80 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 1: to be successful. 81 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think most teams, at least in the years 82 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 2: that I've been around here, the idea is handle your 83 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 2: business on the front end of the week and then 84 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 2: maybe take a day or two on the back end. 85 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 2: But the thing is is you're still in the middle 86 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 2: of the season. You're still reacting to what's happening around you. 87 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 2: You're still reacting to what other teams are doing over 88 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 2: the weekend. And then also, you know, I think that 89 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 2: one of the intriguing things for me is the fact 90 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 2: that both the Vikings and the Raiders are both on 91 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 2: buy this weekend coming up, So you're going to get 92 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 2: too well rested teams. You're going to be heading into 93 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 2: their noisy, crazy stadium. They're at Allegiant Stadium, And so 94 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 2: for me, I just kind of look at it. As 95 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:17,599 Speaker 2: you know, there was a lot of discussion at the 96 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:19,600 Speaker 2: beginning of the year when the schedule came out, saying 97 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 2: is the week thirteen by going to be a good 98 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 2: thing or bad thing. It's a good thing if you're 99 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 2: kind of rolling and you want to be able to 100 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 2: kind of breathe right before you sprint. It can be 101 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:29,479 Speaker 2: a bad thing if all of a sudden you have 102 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 2: adversity early in the year and now you're just begging 103 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 2: to get to a point where you can take a breath. 104 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 2: I think for us, you know, you just look at 105 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 2: the way that everything went. We're kind of we were 106 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 2: talking earlier too, kind of you know, ups and downs 107 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 2: of the season, and here you are going into week thirteen, 108 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 2: You're six and six with your control at the end here. 109 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 2: So I guess for me, you know, I think that 110 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:52,160 Speaker 2: there'll they'll do a plenty of self scouting and trying 111 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 2: to figure that kind of stuff out and game planning 112 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 2: for not only Las Vegas but even past that. I 113 00:04:58,000 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 2: think a huge part of that now is going to 114 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 2: be if you're the Raiders trying to game plan for 115 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 2: what the Viking's going to do right now, you got 116 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:06,160 Speaker 2: to all of a sudden realize that justin Jefferson's back 117 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 2: on the field and see what kind of wrinkle that 118 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 2: puts in. But I think, you know, you look at 119 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:12,159 Speaker 2: what these guys are going to be doing, not only 120 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 2: the coaches but the players. They're really going to be 121 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:17,039 Speaker 2: doing some kind of evel and recoup, but at the 122 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:18,719 Speaker 2: same point figuring out what do we got to do 123 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 2: to win here for the rest of the season. 124 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, next week is going to be a big week 125 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:24,919 Speaker 1: against the Las Vegas Raiders just looking at you know, 126 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:27,159 Speaker 1: how they've performed. They're coming off of a loss also, 127 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:30,839 Speaker 1: and I'm sure they're probably you know, echoing similar sentiment 128 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 1: that Harrison Smith echoed following the loss of the Chicago Bears. 129 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 1: Harrison Smith told reporters in the locker room post game 130 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 1: that he wished we had a game this week. You 131 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 1: just want to get that that nasty taste out of 132 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:43,040 Speaker 1: your mouth, especially losing to a team that you know 133 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 1: you should have beaten, especially at home. So this would 134 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 1: be an opportunity for this Vikings team to kind of regroup, 135 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 1: get back on track, and and go from there. But 136 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:55,159 Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to just talking football, but also wrestling 137 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: with our special guest of today's show, mister Alex Marvez. 138 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:03,279 Speaker 1: He's got that's been covering the NFL for almost three decades. 139 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:07,239 Speaker 1: We know his you know his resume in the wrestling world. 140 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 1: Just understanding what he has done with that. Aw is 141 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:13,159 Speaker 1: in town at Target Center. They were at Target Center 142 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 1: earlier this week, so it'll be interesting to see just 143 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 1: to hear his thoughts and so on and so forth. 144 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 1: You followed wrestling for a while, just when you when 145 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 1: you think about just the sport in its totality, Yeah, 146 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 1: what are some things that really come to mind? 147 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 2: I mean, really the thing that you see the guys 148 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:31,600 Speaker 2: and they're just these larger than life characters and the 149 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:34,599 Speaker 2: charisma and everything else. But like when you can put 150 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:37,160 Speaker 2: it all together and have the athletic talent that these 151 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 2: guys have. I mean, there have been a ton of 152 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:42,039 Speaker 2: wrestlers that I've gone through and been in NFL training 153 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:46,599 Speaker 2: camps and been on teams. There's huge guys from Brock Lesner, 154 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 2: but that's just it. Like guys like Lesnar. You look 155 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:52,040 Speaker 2: at these guys and they are absolute freak athletes and 156 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:53,720 Speaker 2: and you know, for them to be able to go 157 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 2: out there, think about they're out there two hundred nights 158 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 2: a year kind of a thing. They're constantly on the 159 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 2: road having to take care of them. So there's a 160 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:02,360 Speaker 2: whole regimen they got to go through just to be 161 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 2: able to perform for what they've got to do for 162 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 2: the fans. So I think there is a you know, 163 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 2: there's this kind of feeling that there's the NFL side, 164 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 2: there's wrestling and stuff like that, but there is a 165 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 2: lot of similarities between just the maintenance and everything that 166 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 2: these guys have to do to get their bodies right 167 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 2: and be ready to perform on game day and and 168 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 2: you know, for their matches. I think it's it's it's 169 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 2: got to be something that has got to be a 170 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 2: lot of fun and rewarding for those guys too to 171 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 2: be able to travel the world and just be able 172 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 2: to see the excitement on fans faces. 173 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 1: Well, let's get to our guest interview with mister Alex Marvez. 174 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 3: Blonde Montage is the Twin Cities premier salon and spa 175 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 3: destination and proud official hair sponsor of the Minnesota Vikings Cheerleaders, 176 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 3: with three convenient locations an Dinah, Woodberry and Chan Hassen. 177 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 3: There is this balon close to you. Visit online at 178 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 3: spalon dot com. 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He is a he does it all. 188 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 1: He works as Serious NFL SERIUSXM NFL Radio and he 189 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 1: joins us in studio today. Thank you for joining us, Alex. 190 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 1: This is the bye week, but at the same time 191 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 1: that there is a lot of people here and it's 192 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 1: good to have you here along with Don Kallis from 193 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 1: AW just the whole wrestling background. We are very aware of, 194 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 1: you know, everything that's going on this weekend as far 195 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 1: as in the wrestling world. But what brings you to Minnesota. 196 00:08:57,440 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 4: Well, AW in particular, right and each week, you know, 197 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 4: being on the road. AW the fastest growing pro wrestling 198 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 4: company in the history of the industry. Quite honestly, you 199 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 4: know Tony Kahn, you know as family as you know 200 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 4: Ow It's Jacksonville Jaguars. They had taken the pro wrestling 201 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 4: world by storm ever since we started January eighth of 202 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 4: twenty nineteen. And you know, have a national touring schedule, 203 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 4: inter national touring schedule as well. We have a big 204 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 4: show coming up in London next August, all in our 205 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 4: follow up to our record breaking show that we held 206 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 4: this year. And you know we're at the Target Center, 207 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 4: you know, and you know, doing our Dynamite show. And 208 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 4: you know, again every week I am blessed to be 209 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 4: part of something that I have loved ever since I 210 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 4: was a kid. I mean, I get to merge football 211 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 4: in pro wrestling, you know, with my work at serious exam. 212 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 4: It's a lot of work, don't get me wrong, but 213 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 4: I realize that I'm in a very unique position. Nobody 214 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:41,200 Speaker 4: in the world does what I do, and I'm very 215 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 4: blessed to have it, and I'm very blessed to be here. 216 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 4: And you should feel blessed to be in this facility 217 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 4: for sure. By the way, great Bob Hagan, Tom West 218 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:49,959 Speaker 4: giving us a tour around here. I've been to the 219 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:52,839 Speaker 4: old facility, yeah, and I survived, you know, but that 220 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 4: was a little bit more of a challenge. This is 221 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 4: absolutely gorgeous and I really do believe too. And the 222 00:09:57,320 --> 00:09:59,559 Speaker 4: Will family has always been committed to winning ever since 223 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 4: buying the me Soa Vikings. But the thing about it 224 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 4: that's exciting for me is the players know that they're 225 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 4: in a first class organization when they see something like this. 226 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 4: It does make a difference when you have, you know, 227 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 4: someplace you go to work every day and you're excited 228 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 4: to be in the building. You're not just looking to 229 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 4: head out the door. So I think that's something that's 230 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:18,840 Speaker 4: really neat about what's going on here with this Vikings 231 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 4: out here in Egan. My first time visiting. Hope it's 232 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 4: not my last. 233 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: Has Bob Hagen invited you to one of his pizza 234 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 1: favorite pizza spots yet? 235 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 4: Not yet. We haven't even gotten into a music discussion yet. 236 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 4: But you know, all of this is coming at some 237 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 4: point soon, you know, Bob incredible job media relationship. I 238 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 4: always knew when I was up here working at Fox 239 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 4: Sports or any of my other endeavors that if I 240 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 4: came to the Vikings, I was going to be well 241 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 4: taken care of by the media relations staff and the 242 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 4: best in the business. 243 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 2: Absolutely, that's the thing for us, like you know, we 244 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 2: someone like myself, I have been here for a bet 245 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:46,680 Speaker 2: here as well, and just to see the transition that 246 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:49,599 Speaker 2: happened from Winter part to this place and having facilities 247 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:52,080 Speaker 2: you know, podcast room, radio room like this as well. 248 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 2: Having that, you just kind of understand that there's a 249 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 2: different level of expectation for you know, what we can 250 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 2: do and what we want to do. I think for 251 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 2: a lot of teams you're seeing kind of growth at 252 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 2: their facilities and trying to keep up whether it's for audio, video, 253 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 2: social media, everything that way. What is something that you've 254 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 2: seen kind of evolve and change over the years. For 255 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 2: all the coverage that you've done, not only for the 256 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 2: NFL but even aew over the years. 257 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 4: You don't need outside media anymore. Sure, Quite honestly, it's 258 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 4: a bonus. Let's be let's be real here. You go 259 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 4: to a team website. You know, every week, I do 260 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 4: a pregame show before the Thursday night game on Serious 261 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:31,559 Speaker 4: XM Channel eighty eight, and I call sound from the 262 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 4: video that's posted. If I'm a fan, most teams have 263 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 4: at least one writer, if I'm multiple writers, you know, 264 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 4: and listen, your coverage honestly, through tough times, probably not 265 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 4: going to be as critical as outside sources. But what 266 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 4: the reality is that teams are doing a great job 267 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 4: of doing things in house. But there's also access that 268 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 4: you are provided and able to bring things content to 269 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:52,599 Speaker 4: people that you simply can't get anywhere else. And I 270 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 4: think that's one of the great things as well. There's 271 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 4: never really been a better time to be an NFL 272 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:59,719 Speaker 4: fan because you know so much, the more you want 273 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 4: to die into it, the more information is available to you. 274 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 4: Now that being said, sometimes you don't want to know 275 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 4: how the sausage is made. And I get all that, 276 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 4: but I think that's been one of the biggest evolutions though, 277 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 4: is teams the way that they cover themselves. But it's 278 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 4: a natural progression just to the way that life is 279 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 4: and the fact that you know, mainstream media outlets that 280 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 4: we grew up with. You know, at least I grew 281 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 4: up with simply just you know, falling a little bit 282 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 4: by the wayside, you know, to say the least. 283 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 1: You've been covering an NFL for for almost three decades 284 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 1: at this point, so you've seen championship teams, You've been 285 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 1: around championship teams and just understanding, you know that this organization, 286 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:35,960 Speaker 1: this wolf Ran Vikings organization, wants to get to that 287 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 1: promised land. What are some qualities that make up a 288 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 1: championship team When you start to think of, oh, this 289 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:43,439 Speaker 1: is why they won this year or this is why 290 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:44,200 Speaker 1: they won that year. 291 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 4: Every championship team is going to undergo adversity of some point, 292 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 4: whether it's injury, whether it's a tough loss, whether it's 293 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 4: something that happens off the field. It's that ability to 294 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 4: pull through that adversity to make sure that it's a 295 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 4: group of individuals who are coming together and ignoring all 296 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 4: of the outside noise. And that isn't easy because we're 297 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 4: all human beings. Sometimes mainstream media forgets that players go 298 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 4: home and it's not that they want to look on 299 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 4: social media, but one of their buddies will show them something, 300 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 4: or one of their family members will call and ask them. 301 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:17,200 Speaker 4: And you have to keep everyone focused on collective goals 302 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 4: because once people start to look at themselves as individuals, 303 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:21,960 Speaker 4: once they start worrying about their contracts next year, their 304 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 4: future with the franchise, when winning becomes secondary two personal goals. 305 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 4: That's one of the big problems you have. I mean, 306 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 4: listen exes and o's. There's different ways to win, right, 307 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 4: I mean we've seen team construct in different ways. We 308 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 4: had a New England Patriots team that won a Super 309 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:38,440 Speaker 4: Bowl thirteen to three, right, I mean think about it, 310 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 4: right against the Rams, you know, super Bowl fifty three. 311 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:43,440 Speaker 4: That was a team that had a good offense, not 312 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 4: a great offense, but a great defense. Conversely, we see 313 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:47,680 Speaker 4: teams like the Kansas City Chiefs and while their defense 314 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 4: played better last year, let's be candid, it's because of 315 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 4: that high powered offense. They're able to overcome that deficit 316 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 4: against the Eagles, So that, to me, those things sort 317 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 4: of take care of themselves. You know, winning championships so 318 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:01,439 Speaker 4: much often depends on hell of a franchise at the 319 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 4: end of the year. That what's the old saying, It's 320 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 4: not the best team that necessarily wins, it's the healthiest 321 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 4: time that wins. But I just feel culture building is 322 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 4: so big, and it sounds cliche for so many folks, 323 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 4: but it's true. If you are a group of individuals, 324 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:15,679 Speaker 4: a house divided will fall, no question about it. And 325 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 4: I don't feel that this Vikings team has that. I 326 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 4: mean from everything that I've read from the people I 327 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 4: talked to around the league, you got to give Kevin 328 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 4: O'Connell a heck of a lot of credit for helping 329 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 4: a guide this team through the adversity it has faced 330 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 4: this season. 331 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the culture building is always something that's 332 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 2: really important for teams, and you can see the ones 333 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 2: that really gel by the end of the season versus 334 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 2: the ones that go through the adversity and start to 335 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 2: fall apart a little bit. I think for us, you know, 336 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 2: there's been plenty of ads adversity so far this year. 337 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 2: But I think for people internally and just seeing the 338 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 2: thing that's going on, the leadership that we have here 339 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 2: has been super important. I know for someone like yourself. 340 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 2: You know you talk about working with serious XM as 341 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 2: much as you have, you kin'd have to have a 342 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 2: finger in the pulse of the entire league and all 343 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 2: the different teams. How do you keep it straight? Because 344 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 2: we were even talking today just about us trying to 345 00:14:57,400 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 2: keep things straight, not only for ourselves internally, but just 346 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 2: really and how it's going to affect us over the 347 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 2: next month. How someone like yourself try to cover the 348 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 2: entire league and keep a pulse on everything. 349 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 1: Well. 350 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 4: Number one, history has a tendency to repeat itself, and 351 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 4: I'm able to rely on experience from twenty nine years 352 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 4: of covering the NFL. Oh I've seen this story unfold before, 353 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 4: and I know how it's going to end, you know 354 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 4: what I mean. Whether it's a head coach maybe for 355 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 4: a team on the West Coast, who loses his mind 356 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 4: during a news conference when asked a question by the media, 357 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 4: you could tell that that person is feeling the heat 358 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 4: a little bit and doesn't take a rocket science to 359 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 4: figure this out, but you understand maybe that's the direction 360 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 4: of where this franchise is going, so you try to 361 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 4: follow trends. I'm a big believer in x the formerly 362 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 4: known as Twitter as an aggregator, right. I don't want 363 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 4: to sit there and yell the cloud. I am not 364 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 4: paid to be on Twitter. I don't care to share 365 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 4: my opinions on Twitter. There's no benefit for me to 366 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 4: do that. But I will steal your information and use 367 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 4: it as part of my show. I mean, I understand too. 368 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 4: My goal is to try to make football as accessible 369 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 4: as possible during my time on the radio to both 370 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 4: mainstream fans who may not be you know, as ardent 371 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 4: following the product. You know, we'll also get something too 372 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 4: hardcorees that they may not know elsewhere. Plus relying on 373 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 4: co hosts. I get to work with Tim Brown, Pro 374 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 4: Football Hall of Fame. I work with Max Stark's played 375 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 4: tackle in the NFL for a decade. I worked with 376 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 4: Robert Turbin. I work with former Vikings GM Rix Spielman. 377 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 4: I work with Bill Polian, I work with Charlie Wise. 378 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 4: I can go down the list here, Rich Cannon, all 379 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 4: these folks that I am blessed to be on the 380 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 4: same show with Why am I going to pretend to 381 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 4: be an expert on certain things? I'm not afraid to 382 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 4: say I don't know everything, So I turn it over 383 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 4: to a co host who's gonna have their own opinion 384 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 4: about certain things and have better expertise than that. So 385 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 4: I do my best. I research, I call notes one thing. 386 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 4: I mean. I may not always be perfect, but I 387 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 4: will tell you this, there is no one who's gonna 388 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 4: work harder or be more prepared for my show than 389 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 4: I am. And that's something that I can control. Right, 390 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 4: You control what you can control. That's something I can do. 391 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 1: You made a comment, you said it doesn't take a 392 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 1: rocket scientist to figure out trends, especially when you've been 393 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 1: in this league as long as you have. But we 394 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 1: have a rocket scientist on this team at quarterback that's 395 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 1: trying to figure out this offense. And this has only 396 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 1: happened three times in the NFL where quarterback has been 397 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 1: traded mid season, starts week the first week that he 398 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:10,159 Speaker 1: is here in here, well here with the team, and 399 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 1: then wins a game. What is the trend there? Like, 400 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:16,399 Speaker 1: how do you predict that? How do you sum that up? 401 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 1: When it comes to trying to get Josh Dobbs in 402 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:21,399 Speaker 1: this offense back rolling again with all the adversity that 403 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 1: this Vikings team has faced. 404 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:24,639 Speaker 4: Well, first, I just feel like the Josh Dobbs win 405 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 4: against the Atlanta Falcons was an anomaly. And that is 406 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 4: not a disrespect to him or the Vikings organization. In fact, 407 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 4: it's a compliment to them, because let's be honest here. 408 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 4: I mean, you didn't have a chance, as we all know, 409 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:36,400 Speaker 4: to take practice reps with the team. He's just tried, 410 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 4: you know, he just went out and played right, And 411 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 4: that's an incredible thing. What's happening now though, And you 412 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:44,120 Speaker 4: saw that there was a pass in the Chicago game 413 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 4: to Jordan Addison on the sideline where the two just 414 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 4: didn't connect right. And you know there's a play in 415 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:54,640 Speaker 4: Sunday's game between Philadelphia and Buffalo where Josh Allen, who 416 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:58,440 Speaker 4: has had countless hours working with Gaye Davis, they're in overtime, 417 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:01,440 Speaker 4: they don't connect what ended up being the critical play 418 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 4: of the game for the Bills, right, they have to 419 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 4: settle for a field goal rather than score the touchdown, 420 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:06,680 Speaker 4: rather than win the game, and they end up losing 421 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 4: to the Eagles when I saw that pass from Josh 422 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 4: to Jordan. It just is a reminder these guys don't 423 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 4: have an off season body of work to rely upon, 424 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:18,879 Speaker 4: a preseason body of work, a training camp, regular season games, 425 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 4: and you're starting to see that come out a little bit. 426 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 4: And unfortunately for the Vikings, this team has not been 427 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:26,640 Speaker 4: very effective running the football either. And you know, whether 428 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 4: that's game planning, whether that's the offensive line, whether it's 429 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 4: the quality of the running backs. Not for me to say, 430 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 4: maybe it's a combination of all of this, but this 431 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 4: was a Kirk Cousin's centric offense when Kirk was healthy. 432 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 4: Now that Kirk isn't healthy, you have to be able 433 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 4: to adjust, and there are times when the Vikings have 434 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:43,880 Speaker 4: struggled to do that. All you can do is hoping 435 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 4: this bye week first of Josh Dobbs catches his breath. 436 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 4: I mean, literally, take a couple hours to just relax 437 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 4: and get your mind right, and then you can get 438 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:54,399 Speaker 4: back to work. You know what he's done, though, I mean, 439 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:56,919 Speaker 4: it's an incredible story. I'm very happy I got to 440 00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 4: know him a little bit through the years while he's 441 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:01,440 Speaker 4: been bopping around the NFL. Incredible opportunity has been able 442 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 4: to take advantage of whether he's back in the starting 443 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 4: lineup or not when the Vikings returned in Week fourteen 444 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:07,879 Speaker 4: is one thing. But I do feel that he's going 445 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:09,440 Speaker 4: to try to put himself in the best position to 446 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 4: succeed himself. You know that you may have a quarterback 447 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 4: who can stick around here for years to come. I'm 448 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 4: not saying you build around him as a franchise, but 449 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 4: Josh has done the best he can. But for this 450 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:20,239 Speaker 4: Vikings team, others are going to have to step up. 451 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:22,120 Speaker 4: Oh and by the way, it will help when Justin 452 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 4: Jefferson is back on the field as well, because obviously 453 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 4: he changes the way that that defense has approached this 454 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:28,639 Speaker 4: Vikings offense. 455 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 2: I know one of the things that I was reading 456 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 2: through here as well was you have a Pro Football 457 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:35,359 Speaker 2: Hall of Fame boat, and we have a guy in 458 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 2: Jared Allen who is this year Again, I think for 459 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:41,680 Speaker 2: a lot of fans, we're hoping that he has a 460 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:42,679 Speaker 2: legit shot this year. 461 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 4: Did to final legit shot last year. Exactly what happens 462 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 4: is sometimes and it gets tricky, right because first, there's 463 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 4: a reason they're in the room, right, there's a reason 464 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:53,439 Speaker 4: to one of fifteen finals they're among the best who 465 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:56,200 Speaker 4: have ever played this game. The question becomes pecking order 466 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 4: to an extent, right, And I was a little surprised, 467 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 4: quite honestly, DeMarcus where Lee frogged him. You know, I 468 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:03,200 Speaker 4: think that Jared Allen, I mean when you talk about 469 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:05,359 Speaker 4: I believe what one hundred and sixty career sacks during 470 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 4: his time in the NFL, doing it in multiple cities, 471 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 4: Kansas City, Minnesota, Carolina. At end his career, this was 472 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 4: a difference maker. Teams had to game plan around him. 473 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 4: You could tell how he raised the play of like 474 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 4: a Brian Robson, you know, who was playing opposite him 475 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:20,200 Speaker 4: during his time with the Vikings. So I feel though, 476 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:22,479 Speaker 4: and this is a positive for him and for those 477 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 4: players who have been knocking on the door for a 478 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:27,120 Speaker 4: couple of years. In this year's class, there are probably 479 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:30,200 Speaker 4: going to be only two first ballot inductee strong candidates, 480 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:32,920 Speaker 4: and that is going to be Antonio Gates and Julius Peppers. 481 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:35,920 Speaker 4: And I would imagine that both of those two, Julius 482 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 4: more so than Antonio, in my opinion. I'm not committing 483 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:42,199 Speaker 4: to voting for either, but when you have two that 484 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 4: go in rather than let's say, in a future class 485 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:46,120 Speaker 4: where you're going to be talking about three four players 486 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:48,960 Speaker 4: who maybe first ballot inductees. That opens the door for 487 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 4: others who have been waiting. And I feel like Jared 488 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 4: Allen's time is coming. I don't see another pass rusher 489 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:57,200 Speaker 4: beside potentially Julius Peppers leapfrogging him to get into the 490 00:20:57,240 --> 00:20:58,719 Speaker 4: Pro Football Hall of Fame. I don't see it from 491 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:01,440 Speaker 4: Dwight Freeney right now. I don't see it from anyone else. 492 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:04,120 Speaker 4: So hopefully for Jared this will be his time coming 493 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 4: up in twenty twenty four, because I do believe he 494 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:07,199 Speaker 4: is worthy of induction. 495 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 1: What current vikings on this roster do you think in 496 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:12,159 Speaker 1: a few years will actually make a case outside of 497 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 1: Justin Jeffers. 498 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:14,640 Speaker 4: I was going to say JJ's yep, the guy yep, 499 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:15,440 Speaker 4: you know what I mean. 500 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 1: Tough to say Harrison Smith. 501 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:20,680 Speaker 4: Maybe Harrison Smith will be a conversation. Safeties have traditionally 502 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 4: had a tough go of it in the Pro Football 503 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 4: Hall of Fame, but I think that people are looking 504 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:27,159 Speaker 4: at the position a little bit differently now because you 505 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 4: know you're doing more than playing center field. I mean, 506 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 4: you know a lot of safeties now are able to, 507 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:33,439 Speaker 4: you know, morph down to the linebacker spot, right, you know, 508 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 4: you're able to do that playing maybe closer to the 509 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 4: line of scrimmage of times. But Harrison Smith would obviously 510 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 4: be someone who's under strong consideration, you know, for this honor. 511 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:43,479 Speaker 4: And I got to tell you this, and I'm not 512 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 4: saying that it's a lock or anything like that, but 513 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:47,920 Speaker 4: if Kirk Cousins can get a couple of Super Bowl rings, 514 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:50,199 Speaker 4: and like I'm making it sound really easy, right, but 515 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 4: we're going to have a talk here about it, because 516 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 4: when you look at what he has been able to 517 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 4: do consistently from a statistical standpoint, it's been big, you know. 518 00:21:57,480 --> 00:21:59,400 Speaker 4: And I feel like the narrative on Kirk has changed 519 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 4: as well. I think twenty twenty three as terribly disappointing 520 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:05,159 Speaker 4: as his end to a season was, I think people 521 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 4: now believe a lot more in Kirk Cousins than what 522 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 4: they did before. I think they saw him battling the 523 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 4: way that he did through the midway point of the season. 524 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:13,719 Speaker 4: I think they saw him elevate people. I think they 525 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:16,120 Speaker 4: saw him come through in some clutch moments. And I'm 526 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:18,640 Speaker 4: thinking that the Minnesota Vikings management sees all this, they've 527 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 4: always been a staunch supporter or Kirk Cousins. Obviously you 528 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:23,680 Speaker 4: could tell by the money he's made. But my point is, maybe, 529 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:26,640 Speaker 4: just maybe Kirk Cousins, his time in Minnesota isn't drawing near. 530 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 4: Maybe he ends up signing an extension, and then you 531 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 4: worry about that quote quarterback of the future down the road. 532 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 4: And by the way, the more the Vikings keep winning, 533 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:36,120 Speaker 4: the further that first round draft pick gets, the less 534 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:38,360 Speaker 4: odds you have of landing a franchise quarterback. 535 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:40,399 Speaker 2: Sure, And I know one thing for me too. I 536 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:42,399 Speaker 2: was kind of thinking we were talking about kind of 537 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 2: historic guys and Jared was one of those guys that 538 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 2: could definitely cut a promo question for you, is there 539 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:49,399 Speaker 2: a modern NFL player that you think would be awesome 540 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:50,640 Speaker 2: for aw do incorporate? 541 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,439 Speaker 4: Oh my goodness, guys who cut promo. See it's interesting 542 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:56,200 Speaker 4: because so many of them get watered down, right, they're 543 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 4: told not to be so eccentric, maybe not to draw 544 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:02,200 Speaker 4: attention to themselves, right with the things that they say. 545 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 4: So off the top of my head, and it's interesting, 546 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:05,920 Speaker 4: I try to block out some of that noise, you 547 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:07,920 Speaker 4: know what I mean, Like I try, I'm just saying 548 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,119 Speaker 4: it's it's hard. I don't have a name that's popping 549 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:13,120 Speaker 4: in my head immediately, but but there are guys who 550 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:15,399 Speaker 4: talk and listen. Everyone loves pro wrestling, right among so 551 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:17,639 Speaker 4: many NFL players, I know there's a lot of aw 552 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 4: fans that love that, you know, that are out there 553 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 4: that are in the league, that enjoy the product. I mean, 554 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 4: you look at George Kittle for example, he'd be tremendous 555 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 4: and of course he's good friends with Penzel Saido Meto. 556 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 4: You know if the Lucha Brothers one of our top 557 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:30,119 Speaker 4: tag teams. So that's when you see him do the 558 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 4: No Fear signed, you know, George after he catches a pass, 559 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 4: So maybe there's a future for him in pro wrestling 560 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 4: as well. We're welcome for the Minnesota Vikings who charity 561 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:40,160 Speaker 4: who a tosstar had in the proverbial ring and bring 562 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 4: them on as well. 563 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,119 Speaker 1: I was just thinking of someone who does have Vikings 564 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 1: ties doesn't play for the Vikings. But Cam Jordan, maybe 565 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 1: I just. 566 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:48,200 Speaker 4: Caam Jordan is fantastic. I think you know Cam Jordan. 567 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 4: Interesting story on Cam Jordan. By the way, Mark Dominic 568 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:54,119 Speaker 4: admits he made a mistake. Cam talked his way out 569 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 4: of being drafted by the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Really, he 570 00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:58,440 Speaker 4: went on a pre draft visit, and you asked, why 571 00:23:58,480 --> 00:23:59,680 Speaker 4: is a pre draft visit important? 572 00:23:59,760 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 1: Right? 573 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:05,640 Speaker 4: Cam talked and talked and talked and talked and talk 574 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:08,360 Speaker 4: to the point that Mark thought, I don't know if 575 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:10,959 Speaker 4: he's going to fit into our locker room culture and 576 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:16,200 Speaker 4: overthought it and ended up taking Adrian Clayborn instead. Didn't 577 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:17,879 Speaker 4: work out quite as well as Cam Jordan, who is 578 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,200 Speaker 4: someone who eventually may get Pro Football Hall of Fame 579 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,720 Speaker 4: consideration himself. Do you know stalwart for that New Orleans 580 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 4: Saints for sure defense, but just one of those behind 581 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:26,920 Speaker 4: the scenes type story. Just not sure. Though I Cam 582 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:28,439 Speaker 4: has a future pro wrestler. I do know he has 583 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 4: a future potentially in the Hall of Fame. 584 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 1: That's very true. My last question for you, I had 585 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:35,479 Speaker 1: it on this list. Are there any parallels between wrestling, 586 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:38,880 Speaker 1: professional wrestling and professional football just from covering it for 587 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:39,400 Speaker 1: so long? 588 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:42,479 Speaker 4: No, because you well, but I will say this, and 589 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 4: this is what the amazing part of my life and 590 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 4: the blessing you ever see from Tony Kahan is going 591 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 4: behind the scenes and seeing how things are done and 592 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 4: then realizing that I spent most of my life reporting 593 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 4: on things that I really didn't know probably seventy five 594 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:02,439 Speaker 4: percent about, and it sounds, you know, demoralizing to an extent. 595 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 4: I did the best I could, But when you're an 596 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:09,200 Speaker 4: NFL reporter, you don't know, Okay, is this player having 597 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:11,400 Speaker 4: things off the field that might be affecting their performance? 598 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:13,439 Speaker 4: Is there an issue between the coach and the player 599 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:16,720 Speaker 4: that could be affecting things? You know, all these little 600 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 4: things that end up painting a picture. But you know, 601 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 4: the media just tries to make it very much cut 602 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 4: and dried and understandably, so they're trying to do what 603 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 4: they what they know or you know, feed into certain stereotypes, 604 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 4: et cetera. But this is this is something that I've learned, 605 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 4: you know what I mean. I will tell you this too, 606 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 4: the commitment that it takes to succeed in both industries. 607 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 4: And that's why, you know, the snark on social media. 608 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:41,439 Speaker 4: It bothers me now and it's really caused me, you know, 609 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:43,679 Speaker 4: because I've come under criticism as well. And you know, 610 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:46,200 Speaker 4: when you're first, you know, in front of the camera, 611 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 4: rather than critiquing people in front of the camera that 612 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 4: can it's overwhelming. Should be quite honest with you. It 613 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:54,240 Speaker 4: affects your life. It affects you know, how you value yourself. 614 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:56,399 Speaker 4: And I think that that's why when you have so 615 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:58,920 Speaker 4: many people who do so many reprehensible things or even 616 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 4: just cutting com by media members, even those covering the teams, 617 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 4: beat writers and putting them out on on X and 618 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:08,199 Speaker 4: social media, you have no idea the commitment that it 619 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 4: takes for a player who goes out there and does 620 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,120 Speaker 4: what they do the same thing is an aew wrestler 621 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 4: to be out there and just for a limited amount 622 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:17,359 Speaker 4: of time. Now you think about it, right, you got 623 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:19,879 Speaker 4: seventeen games guaranteed. That's it in the NFL, right for 624 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 4: a regular season, that's all you're guaranteed. But how many 625 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:25,400 Speaker 4: hours did you put in not only not only playing football, 626 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:28,639 Speaker 4: but watching your diet, missing time with your family, you know, 627 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 4: working out, you know, studying film, all of those things 628 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 4: to try to be, you know, a true professional. And 629 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 4: I just don't know if we really have an appreciation 630 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,160 Speaker 4: of that. And I will tell you though, going behind 631 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 4: the scenes at aaw seeing that has made me really 632 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:43,400 Speaker 4: really appreciate the effort that we get every week from 633 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 4: players in the NFL and all of our aw crew awesome. 634 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 1: Well, I'm sure every fan that enjoys AW enjoys you also, 635 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 1: and every fan that enjoys six XM NFL Radio enjoys 636 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 1: you also. And we enjoyed having you on the podcast today. 637 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:59,440 Speaker 1: That's Alex Marvez from sirius XM NFL Radio. Appreciate you 638 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 1: stopping by spending some time with us. 639 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 4: It was an honor and now I got to go 640 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:03,440 Speaker 4: get some pizza with Bob. 641 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,440 Speaker 1: Always good to talk to Alex Marvez. I have a 642 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 1: weird feeling that we're going to have him on a 643 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 1: few more times in the months and years to come. 644 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 1: He's just a guy that is very knowledgeable, not only 645 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 1: about wrestling, but about the NFL. I mean, when you 646 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,720 Speaker 1: have an NFL Hall of Fame vote, yeah, you have 647 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,120 Speaker 1: to know your stuff. So it was good just conversing 648 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,359 Speaker 1: with him and just hearing his thoughts on the league 649 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 1: and it's totality. 650 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 2: I think the thing that was really interesting too, is 651 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 2: just him talking about even our facility here and just 652 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 2: seeing how much has changed. He's not lying. I mean, 653 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 2: you know, you used to go to to Winter Park 654 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:38,680 Speaker 2: and it was kind of a spartan life over there. 655 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:40,880 Speaker 2: There is a lot of people that when they come 656 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 2: in here to the new campus and everything, they just 657 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:44,880 Speaker 2: their eyes are a lot bigger, saying, man, than we're 658 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 2: not in Kansas anymore. 659 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 1: You know. 660 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 2: For me, having a guy like Alex here who can 661 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,399 Speaker 2: look at the history of the NFL and the coverage 662 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 2: that he's had for you know, basically three decades at 663 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,119 Speaker 2: this point, I think it's just always good to get 664 00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 2: a guy like him who has the credit. He's got 665 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:01,720 Speaker 2: the All of Fame vote. He used to be the 666 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:07,160 Speaker 2: former president of the Pro Football Writers of America, So like, 667 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:09,639 Speaker 2: this guy knows the stuff. And for him to be 668 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,960 Speaker 2: as kind of positive and complementary as he is towards 669 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,440 Speaker 2: the Vikings at this point, I think is a good thing. 670 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 2: And it just kind of shows that, you know, they're 671 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 2: trying to do things the right way here. 672 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,119 Speaker 1: Doing it the right Doing it the right way is 673 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 1: the name of the game, and it's going to have 674 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:22,919 Speaker 1: to continue to be the name of the game for 675 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 1: the Vikings if they want to stay in playoff contention, 676 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:29,399 Speaker 1: because this is a pivotal part of the season and 677 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,640 Speaker 1: going into this upcoming matchup next week against the Las 678 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 1: Vegas Raiders, I'm interested to see what the quarterback play 679 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 1: will look like. Like we're in similar positions. If you 680 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 1: look at ESPN dot com or any statistical website, when 681 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 1: you look at passing leaders for both of these teams, Yeah, 682 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 1: it's Jimmy g for the Raiders and it's Kirk Cousins 683 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 1: for the Vikings. Either one of those quarterbacks are going 684 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 1: to play next Sunday. So just looking at just those 685 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 1: two quarterbacks, Aidan O'Connell, Josh Dobbs, if he gets to start, 686 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 1: how easy does that sound? 687 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 2: Well, I think for both teams right now, you know, 688 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:06,480 Speaker 2: there's some some interesting things going on because, like even 689 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 2: for us, I think there's still the hope and that 690 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 2: the feeling of we're running to push for this playoff run. 691 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:16,240 Speaker 2: For the Raiders, they've had a lot of questions all 692 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 2: season long, some disgruntled players, you got some injuries that 693 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 2: are going on there as well. I think the Raiders 694 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 2: themselves are a team that if you can jump on them, 695 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 2: it feels like you can really kind of try to 696 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,959 Speaker 2: bury them as much as early as possible. The thing 697 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 2: for me that I'm kind of looking forward to is 698 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:35,720 Speaker 2: O'Connell and O'Connell crime and just the two of them 699 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 2: trying to out duel each other offensively for both sides. 700 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 2: You know, I'm hoping that Flores finds a way to 701 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 2: neutralize aid In as much as possible. And at the 702 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 2: same point, you're looking at a guy like Max Crosby 703 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 2: with some of the injury news that's coming out about 704 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 2: him too, You're wondering how effective he's going to be. 705 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 2: I think between the offensive line for the Vikings, the 706 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 2: quarterback play, JJ coming back, everything else, all these kind 707 00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 2: of questions that were happening off of the Chicago Bears game. 708 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 2: To me, it just feels like this is going to 709 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,960 Speaker 2: be a get right game and just try to do 710 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 2: what you can where everyone's focused to be able to 711 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 2: make it happen. Because you brought it up even earlier, 712 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 2: just the idea. After the game, guys like Harrison Smith, 713 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 2: those guys were talking about how just how mad they 714 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 2: were at what happened because they knew it was that close. 715 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 2: I think that going into a game like this one, 716 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 2: everything will be focused for a week and a half 717 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 2: two weeks, and they'll be able to put their best 718 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 2: be forward. 719 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 1: Well. I'm end the Raiders coverage on that note. Next 720 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 1: week will be all Raiders. Yeah, that's the goal, that's 721 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 1: the plan. We know it'd be a fun week everybody. 722 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:39,240 Speaker 1: All Vikings fans are traveling out West to get out 723 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 1: the code, so there will be a huge purple presence 724 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 1: at Allegiance Stadium in Las Vegas. So Jay, I'm looking 725 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 1: forward to that. I'm also looking forward, like I said before, 726 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 1: talking to Alex Marvez a little bit more Vikings fans. 727 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 1: If you want to tune into him or listen to 728 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 1: him more, you can check him out on Serious NFL Radio. 729 00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:59,240 Speaker 1: He has a daily show on Channel eighty eight, and 730 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 1: just hearing him talk now, I feel like I'm about 731 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 1: to be a new daily listener because he knows his stuff, 732 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 1: and I'm excited to see just his future thoughts not 733 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 1: only on the Vikings, but the current state of the 734 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:13,240 Speaker 1: NFL with some of the trends that continue to happen 735 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 1: year in a year out. Yeah. 736 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 2: I've had a serious XM subscription for almost two decades now, 737 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 2: and you know, a guy like Alex is always fun 738 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 2: to listen to. Like he was talking about too in 739 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 2: the interview, he gets tons of great guests on and 740 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 2: so he just kind of he's a very good. He's 741 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 2: super knowledgeable and he's very good at facilitating and just 742 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 2: kind of like, hey, here's the topic, let's run with 743 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 2: it and letting those guys go. Alex is great and 744 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:36,800 Speaker 2: so it's really fun to meet him today and get 745 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 2: to talk to him and have him join our show, 746 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 2: and I think it's really special. So yeah, hopefully we 747 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 2: can incorporate more in the future in. 748 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 1: The show for sure. Well, Vikings fans, thank you for 749 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 1: tuning into this by week edition of the Minnesota Vikings Podcast. 750 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 1: Good news, the Vikings are six and six and they 751 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 1: still have a spot in the playoffs. If the season 752 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 1: ended today, they had that final wildcard spot. So it's 753 00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:58,479 Speaker 1: going to be an all hands on deck type of 754 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 1: operation in order for the Viking to continue that trend 755 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 1: in order to stay in that playoff contention. But in 756 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 1: the meantime, stay tuned to Vikings dot com. Just enjoy 757 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 1: yourself this week and hopefully you can stay safe in 758 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:13,040 Speaker 1: the meantime. So for j Neltson our special guest, mister 759 00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 1: Alex Marvez, my name is Gabe Henderson. Thank you guys 760 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 1: again for tuning into another edition of the Minnesota Vikings Podcast, 761 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 1: brought to you by pepsi made for Vikings watching. 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