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Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news.

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Speaker 2: Single best idea and a single best idea. It has

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Speaker 2: been a team effort for the last seventy two hours

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Speaker 2: into this military action by the United States of America.

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Speaker 2: Our special show yesterday, and of course we advanced forward today.

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Speaker 2: We started with a gentleman who pulled the consul and

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Speaker 2: foreign relations into the modern age now with Centerview Partners,

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Speaker 2: here is Richard Haass.

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Speaker 1: And the President had the authority like all of his predecessors.

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Speaker 1: If you look at the history of a modern American

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Speaker 1: foreign policy initiative, and foreign policy has decidedly passed to

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Speaker 1: the executive. I mean, Tom, what was it sixty years ago?

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Speaker 1: Author Schlesinger Junior wrote his essay book about the impurial presidency.

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Speaker 1: This is not new. Congress virtually, never ever fulfills its

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Speaker 1: constitutional obligation to declare war, and we have used military

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Speaker 1: force hundreds of times in the absence of anything so formal.

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Speaker 1: So I just flat out disagree with that kind of

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Speaker 1: a narrow legalist interpretation. That said, if I had been

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Speaker 1: advising President Trump, I would have said, take a page

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Speaker 1: out of the book of President Bush, the father Bush

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Speaker 1: forty one, do things with the internationally, with building on

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Speaker 1: the International Atomic Energy Agency Skating report of Iran, do

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Speaker 1: things with the Congress, do things with the American public.

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Speaker 1: If you're going to use military force, people should come

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Speaker 1: to conclude that you tried to do diplomacy and at

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Speaker 1: the end of the day you reluctantly had to use it.

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Speaker 1: And also, by the way, would have helped this president

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Speaker 1: with his magabase. So I think he should have gone

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Speaker 1: about this differently. But did he under American political tradition?

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Speaker 1: Did he possess the authority to do what he did? Absolutely?

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Speaker 2: Richard Hass can't say enough about the works he's put out.

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Speaker 2: One of my books of the summer years ago, The

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Speaker 2: World with Richard Haws and of course Bill of Obligation

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Speaker 2: out there now on citizenship in America. Robert Kaplan came

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Speaker 2: by with a new book, Wasteland, my book of the

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Speaker 2: year I think two years ago, The Loom of Time,

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Speaker 2: the reach of the Arab world from Morocco over to Persia.

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Speaker 2: Robert Kaplan on this moment for America and Persia.

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Speaker 3: People who were saying that this could this could lead

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Speaker 3: to another you know, forever forever war, Middle East quagmire.

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Speaker 3: They're making a mistake of category. Iraq is was in

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Speaker 3: a different category than Iran. Iraq was in the category

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Speaker 3: of Vietnam and Afghanistan in Korea in the sense that

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Speaker 3: it involved tens of thousands of ground troops which got

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Speaker 3: stuck literally in a quagmire. Here, we're dealing with just

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Speaker 3: air and naval assets. The war could go in a

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Speaker 3: number of ways. There could be blowback, but as long

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Speaker 3: as we stick with air and naval assets, there's not

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Speaker 3: going to be a quagmire. There's going to be something different.

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Speaker 3: It may be something bad, but it will simply exist

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Speaker 3: in a category different from those four forever wars Korea, Vietnam, Iraq,

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Speaker 3: and Afghanistan.

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Speaker 2: Robert D. Kaplan, The new book is The Wasteland. Thank

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Speaker 2: you so much again to our team for a concerted

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Speaker 2: effort on our fractured geo politics, huge sets of economic data.

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Speaker 2: This week we'll be covering all that into the domestic

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