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Speaker 1: Walk up to NFL daily where school is out for summer,

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Speaker 1: but the NFL is not. We're here in the Chris

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Speaker 1: Westling podcast, Judie. My name is Greg Rosenthal. This is

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Speaker 1: Jordan Rodrigue of The Athletic and Patrick Claybahn of NFL Network.

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Speaker 1: A man, you know, we're counting down my face built

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just no, Greg's gassing me up unnecessarily. Well he's

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Speaker 2: just he's got my favorite fit on right. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 2: I love that jacket and it kills every time.

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Speaker 1: the people did it, so thank you people for doing that.

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Speaker 1: I noticed it, and yes I referred to schools out.

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Speaker 1: My kids are out of school. That was Wasn't that

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Speaker 1: like the best day of the year. There's nothing in

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Speaker 3: That's at least how I went through. I don't know

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Speaker 3: if you were the same Jordan.

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Speaker 4: I grew up in Phoenix, so walking out of the

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Speaker 4: school at any time felt like getting hit with a

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Speaker 4: memory of all of those times. But yeah, then it

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Speaker 2: I recently discovered a TikTok trend of people who were

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Speaker 2: accelerated students. They were the gifted children, yea, who grow

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Speaker 2: up and realized that, you know, it was unfair to

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Speaker 5: I was not one of them.

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Speaker 2: Some of us didn't have to wait to be adults

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Speaker 2: And so, yeah, not being in school was great for me.

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Speaker 2: And the only thing that comes close as an adult

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Speaker 3: That is a good feeling to do this, that is

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Speaker 3: a good feeling. I'm with you.

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Speaker 4: I'm just kidding whoever's listening.

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Speaker 1: And look, I think I think you could be a

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Speaker 1: not gonna say personality, but you gotta focus, you gotta behave,

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Speaker 1: We are not going to have that same relief at

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Speaker 1: the end of this show, but we are going to

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Speaker 1: Secret Weapons a week and a half ago, maybe more,

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Speaker 1: and I was it's just been bothering me. It's like

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Speaker 1: we got to close circle. We can't just leave that

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Speaker 1: producer ones and twos for this episode, So big, big

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Speaker 1: spot for Chris and well we will start in the

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Speaker 1: NFC East with Patrick Claybah and the Dallas Cowboys.

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Speaker 2: The Dallas Cowboys frequently the target of constant consternation and

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Speaker 2: that is the secret weapon oh chaos and the star itself,

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Speaker 2: not just the glorious facility in Frisco, but the star

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Speaker 2: constant contract dispute, discussion on and on a lot of it,

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Speaker 2: as we note on this show, unnecessary and counterproductive. But

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Speaker 2: I think it is the perfect spot for George Pickens.

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Speaker 2: And it's something that I mentioned last week on the

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Speaker 4: I am not as young as I used to be,

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Speaker 4: but sometimes I still come across terms that I need

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Speaker 6: Fancam is one of these things where, and I.

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Speaker 4: Might still get this wrong, but if you're a concert

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Speaker 1: Patrick is making a skeptical look. That's not my interpretation?

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Speaker 3: Is that?

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Speaker 6: Is that right?

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Speaker 2: My interpretation of a fancam, which would be probably a

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Speaker 5: Would be like an edit, yes, of a particular person.

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Speaker 1: It just would be like thirty seconds of Carlos Alcarez

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Speaker 3: And that's sort of their fans.

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Speaker 6: I feel like we're all saying, sort we're all in.

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Speaker 5: The bill, there is one person.

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Speaker 4: You're the but George Pickens needs one, okay. And I

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Speaker 4: love this for him because he is so perfect for this.

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Speaker 4: He plays football like a WWE figure. I love how

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Speaker 4: I just think he's perfect for this spotlight.

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Speaker 1: I absolutely agree, and he's going to make them even

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Speaker 3: With Dak Prescott coming back.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to go with the New York Giants, and

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Speaker 1: He's working his way, he's starting to do more things

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Speaker 1: When he was on the field, they had the first

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Speaker 1: They weren't amazing, but the difference between one of the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it has to be a cohesive unit and everything

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it makes you even more eager to

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Speaker 4: you more eager if you're Brian Dable knowing that, okay,

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Speaker 4: this is the time we have the healthy line. And

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Speaker 4: Regardless of whatever happens on offense, they'll have been practicing

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Speaker 5: Have you seen the training camp.

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Speaker 4: Yes, they look amazing. I know, I know it's OTA's

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Speaker 4: I know, I know, but like, oh my god, they

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Speaker 4: there's so many different skill sets and that helps your

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Speaker 4: as long as you don't kill his confidence, it makes

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Speaker 1: Well, that's the issue is Russell Wilson was not protected amazingly,

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Speaker 1: I would say in Pittsburgh. But it wasn't like league

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Speaker 3: I don't think that's.

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Speaker 4: No, I know it's not. I just thought, man, if

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Speaker 4: heart would break. You know, Jordan, we we think she

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Speaker 3: Hold on to the ball.

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Speaker 1: Even at his best, I think he that was just

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Speaker 1: he makes it harder on offensive lines and other quarterback.

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Speaker 2: The biggest a weapon in his arsenal is the deep ball,

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Speaker 2: and it's it's gonna take. It's gonna take a little

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Speaker 2: So you know, Russ, that's what happens.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for landing that plane and making my comment

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Speaker 3: not sound asrue. Jordan, you are up with the Eagles?

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Speaker 4: Well, gang, we all know what the real secret weapon

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Speaker 4: of the Philadelphia Eagles is?

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Speaker 5: There is hey, Now.

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Speaker 4: Okay, in all seriousness, how do you come up with

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Speaker 4: a secret weapon for a team whose weapons are all

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Speaker 6: So I've sort of gone with the theme here.

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Speaker 4: Next guy's up dot dot dot out of nowhere, dot

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Speaker 4: dot dot again. Tyler Steen is starting at right guard.

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Speaker 4: He was a front runner last season before a combination

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Speaker 4: and so now this might finally be his time. Stoutland

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Speaker 4: University rolls through yet another developmental player who might be

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Speaker 4: been super impressive the spring.

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Speaker 6: They do need like a.

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Speaker 4: Three at four ish at receiver right now. They have

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Speaker 4: for his explosive playability, but obviously they were a mess

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Speaker 4: of issues. So these are two players where I think

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Speaker 4: we're going to be saying once again the main secret

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Speaker 4: weapon of the Philadelphia Eagles is how did they do it?

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Speaker 3: Again?

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Speaker 1: Ooh, that's testing because they have struggled at that spot.

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Speaker 1: For what it's worth, they've brought in a lot of

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Speaker 1: NFL player. Just sprinkling how he sauce on you isn't

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Speaker 5: It definitely has on the offsite one.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, let's freaking go. Some would put NFL films music

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Speaker 4: Like this is I want.

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Speaker 1: To run through a Walt, I didn't even want to

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Speaker 2: And even if you don't necessarily have that success, as

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Speaker 3: I was just using his words, but in a joking way.

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Speaker 1: I think you're onto something too, because when you're saying

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Speaker 5: Those cliff teams.

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Speaker 1: Hey, now, let's talk about the Chicago Bears. It was

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Speaker 3: You know who.

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Speaker 1: Dennis Allen is a great assistant coach, one of the

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a nice group. It's a group that's ready to,

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Speaker 4: I really like when a really good coordinator gets another

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Speaker 6: Post fail usually failed headcuak.

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Speaker 3: Like Dennis Allen with the Saints.

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Speaker 4: Yes, and we're gonna get to Maddie Eberflus again.

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Speaker 6: And in Dallas. I think he's gonna be great there.

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Speaker 4: I think that this was one of my favorite secondaries

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Speaker 3: You know what I forgot? Jonathan Owens is on this team.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he makes plays.

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Speaker 2: And again I have fun at Dennis Allen's expense, but

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Speaker 6: Hands your failure?

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Speaker 5: Who multiple hands in that?

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Speaker 2: And yeah, sometimes you take responsibility away from somebody they

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Speaker 1: He's the anti Shody. Shody got to be better as

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Speaker 4: This is a hot take, Sorry about this to put

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Speaker 1: But if I'm at Norton, I'm thrilled with this comp Detroit.

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Speaker 4: But Ratledge was an awesome pickup who will immediately compete

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Speaker 4: He's a multi year starter from Georgia. He can be

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Speaker 4: if Dan Campbell can keep that knack for identifying coordinators,

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Speaker 4: to replace coordinators, and those guys are both gone now

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Speaker 4: in head coaching jobs.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and if Ratledge, by the way, he doesn't win

443
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Speaker 1: the center job, he's probably starting at right guard. So

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Speaker 1: either way, he's going to be in a big spot

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Speaker 1: for a great offensive line.

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Speaker 5: Patrick, you got the Packers.

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Speaker 2: Well, the Green Bay Packers did something that they have

448
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Speaker 2: not done in forever and drafted a wide receiver in

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Speaker 2: the first round.

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Speaker 5: But the secret weapon is Tucker Craft, layer.

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Speaker 2: That we we've seen multiple years and a guy that

452
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Speaker 2: had a lot of action in designed specifically designed plays

453
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Speaker 2: for the tight end. You will you scheme him up

454
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Speaker 2: and not as much work out there in the route. Well,

455
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Speaker 2: that peck injury that he had last year in the

456
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Speaker 2: offseason kind of limited his ability to be ingratiated into

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Speaker 2: the offense. And even then there were seven touchdowns for

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Speaker 2: Tucker Craft. I think we see an explosion for Tucker Craft,

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Speaker 2: an opportunity the guy who had seventy targets last year

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Speaker 2: where all the attention gets devoted outside and even more

461
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Speaker 2: so now where I believe there's more of an opportunity

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Speaker 2: in Tucker Craft becomes the secret weapon for the Green

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Speaker 2: Bay Packers in twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 1: Shout out to NFL Films as Greg Cosel, who I

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Speaker 1: remember coming out thought Craft was, if not the best

466
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Speaker 1: tight end, like the second best tight end in this class.

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Speaker 1: Thought he was a better prospect than Musgrave, who goes

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Speaker 1: earlier to the same Green Bay Packers team, and I

469
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Speaker 1: feel like his breakout got a little slept on nationally,

470
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Speaker 1: like to put up seven hundred yards as a second

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Speaker 1: year tight end, and then you don't need to be

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Speaker 1: a scout to just see him with the ball as

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Speaker 1: kind of magical, like he is going to have a

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Speaker 1: great career and Musgrave could be healthier this year too,

475
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Speaker 1: and kind of give them a nice one bee where

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Speaker 1: that's a lot to deal with.

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Speaker 4: For defense, there have been few players because you expect

478
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Speaker 4: when you cover this sport in this league, you expect

479
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Speaker 4: everyone or most people to be like massive humans, right

480
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Speaker 4: and extremely athletic. There are very few people that have

481
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Speaker 4: rendered me sort of speechless and like, oh, you are

482
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Speaker 4: much larger than expected. Julius Peppers was one of those

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Speaker 4: people when I got to meet him for the first

484
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Speaker 4: time and totally was like stunned by just how you

485
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Speaker 4: can move like that at that size And watching Tucker

486
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Speaker 4: Craft warm up last season pregame, he is not a

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Speaker 4: tight end, Like you know that that position is massive

488
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Speaker 4: already stereotypically, but like he is not that, he's something else.

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Speaker 4: He's different, Like it is scary to see how well

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Speaker 4: he can move with the ball at his frame and

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Speaker 4: sometimes hard to pick up, I think on the broadcast,

492
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Speaker 4: but in person you're like, no, you're not actually supposed

493
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Speaker 4: to be able to do that at your size.

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Speaker 3: Also named after your.

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Speaker 4: Dog, yes, he was the what twenty two year old

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Speaker 4: Tucker Craft is named after.

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Speaker 6: My twelve year old dog?

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Speaker 1: Okay, maybe not. You're right about body tip. I do

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Speaker 1: feel like an impressive looking tight end in person is

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Speaker 1: maybe more impressive than any position. I always put up

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Speaker 1: Kyle Brady, former Jet and Patriots, the most impressive NFL

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Speaker 1: person I've ever seen, and.

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Speaker 2: We're both from covering college football obviously. The first time

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Speaker 2: I saw Cam Newton, I thought, yes, yeah, it was a.

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Speaker 6: Different another one that got me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, stunning standing on somebody else's legs behind him, but

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Speaker 2: it was actually one person standing standing on a pair

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Speaker 2: of likes.

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Speaker 5: And Kelvin Benjamin. I know people will.

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Speaker 2: Make wastressing, but it was before the bowl game against

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Speaker 2: Florida State, there was media availability and I saw Kelvin Benjamin.

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Speaker 5: It felt like the law I've interviewed Shack multiple times.

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Speaker 5: Kelvin Benjamin is gigantic, interesting, just the colossal.

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Speaker 6: That's a clip that's going to be clipped out.

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Speaker 3: Kelvin bench smiles Garrett is another one though it's an.

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Speaker 6: Obvious but yes, yeah, like stunning.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this should be on are naming guys.

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Speaker 4: Naming some guys. You'd be great with that, remember some guards,

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Speaker 4: remember and some.

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Speaker 1: Dudes naming impressive looking guys in person. But it's not weird.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to the Vikings and mine is sort of ephemeral,

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Speaker 1: but I believe in it. I think the timing of

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Speaker 1: this Vikings team, of where they are in their team

524
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Speaker 1: build and where their players are is going to be

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Speaker 1: their secret weapon. I think of Kevin O'Connor, who's thirty

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Speaker 1: four and seventeen in three years year four, of him

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Speaker 1: and Quescy coming together, and then you look at the

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Speaker 1: combination of continuity, youth and experience, and I just think

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Speaker 1: it's tough. Sometimes you don't realize your window is there

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Speaker 1: before it's gone. And they are at a really interesting

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Speaker 1: window where obviously JJ's at his peak and should stay there,

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Speaker 1: but Jordan nod Addison is still there and has developed

533
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Speaker 1: their Their young players in terms of their offensive line,

534
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Speaker 1: like Donovan Jackson, are being helped out by the veterans

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Speaker 1: darrisaw who should be in his peak, and you still

536
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Speaker 1: have Brian O'Neil, and you bring in their free agents.

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Speaker 1: You can support this young quarterback in JJ McCarthy with

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Speaker 1: a lot of players obviously on the defensive side. You

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Speaker 1: don't know how long Brian Flores is going to be there.

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Speaker 1: You don't know how long Harrison Smith is going.

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Speaker 5: To be there.

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Speaker 1: Like Cashman and Grenard, these guys who got there, they

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Speaker 1: now know the system van Ginkel like they have been there.

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Speaker 1: I just think if you look at the roster overall,

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Speaker 1: it's not too young, it's not too old, and it's

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Speaker 1: not too stale.

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Speaker 3: It's just right. Minnesota Vikings, they're the Goldilocks team. I

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Speaker 3: really believe that, Like it's a perfect it's a perfect come.

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Speaker 5: Suits JJ McCarthy's hair as well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Goldie Lettuce, that's part of it.

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Speaker 1: Like in theory, you would want your quarterback, I guess,

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Speaker 1: to have more experience, but I think of a one minute,

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Speaker 1: he's even in a better situation than he would have

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Speaker 1: been as a rookie because he's been there and he's

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Speaker 1: learned how in.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, the floor for this entire team is so

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Speaker 4: much higher because the way that the roster's constructed to

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Speaker 4: your point, Greg, like, even if he struggles, there's enough

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Speaker 4: help everywhere else, yes, to sort of paper over that

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Speaker 4: long enough for Kevin O'Connell to get in and do

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Speaker 4: the thing that we know that he does and has

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Speaker 4: done consistently since he became head coach and before that

563
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Speaker 4: when he was a coordinator, and that is reset, recalibrate

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Speaker 4: the quarterback at the quarterback on the right track. And

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Speaker 4: I just think that when you look at this entire RUSS,

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Speaker 4: you're on paper you think this is a make or

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Speaker 4: break year, But I don't think that's true because you

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Speaker 4: look at the ages and you look at the contracts,

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Speaker 4: and I don't think this is a make or break

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Speaker 4: year for them, or like a boom or bust situation

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Speaker 4: based on the severe veteran thisess of some of the players,

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Speaker 4: because on the other side of it, they've got the

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Speaker 4: quarterback on the rookie deal and so they can keep

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Speaker 4: loading up, they can keep stocking up like this and

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Speaker 4: continue to be like a hybrid young old team.

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Speaker 5: And there's a lot of guys where we haven't fully.

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Speaker 2: Seen the vision come true yet for them, So that's

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Speaker 2: just house money. There's the vikings that we know that

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Speaker 2: we can trust that and count on that they will

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Speaker 2: execute to a high level. And then you've you've got

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Speaker 2: like your your Dallas is right off the edge, You've

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Speaker 2: got JJ McCarthy, and and you juxtaposed that with Justin

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Speaker 2: Jefferson like at the top of at the top of

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Speaker 2: the game, in the top of his career right now,

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Speaker 2: where it's like, we know what we're going to get,

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Speaker 2: and anything we get from these guys, it's just money.

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Speaker 1: I don't think I don't think you're breaking anyway, but

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Speaker 1: I've just had the experience of like doing those articles

589
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Speaker 1: like best rosters in the league every off season, and

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Speaker 1: they just don't stay together long. Like there was this

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Speaker 1: I thought the Falcons roster was going to be set

592
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Speaker 1: for a while. I thought that that Eagles roster with

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Speaker 1: Carson Wentz is going to be set for a while.

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Speaker 1: And you realized, like, in terms of a complete roster,

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Speaker 1: all the position group, it really only lasts usually like

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Speaker 1: one or two seasons with the coach.

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Speaker 3: I think this is that season.

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Speaker 4: But that's fine because they will have to reload. There

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Speaker 4: are going to be players who are who are who

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Speaker 4: age out of this roster. Frank quite frankly and overly bluntly,

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Speaker 4: but there will be and so they can still reload.

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Speaker 4: And that's the entire point is like they're in this

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Speaker 4: very cool hybrid now and then type of build.

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Speaker 1: But now is a time where Brian Floor is there

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Speaker 1: going a super Bowl Like now, I think they are

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Speaker 1: in a in contention to represent the NFC and get there.

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Speaker 3: Let's take a quick break. We will be back with

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Speaker 3: the NFC.

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Speaker 1: South Back at NFL Daily. It's everyone's favorite division. It's

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Speaker 1: the NFC South.

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Speaker 3: Who It's Jordan Rodrigue with the Atlanta Falcons.

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Speaker 4: Yes, my secret weapon for the Falcons is that most

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Speaker 4: of you, not you guys, but most of you are

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Speaker 4: still sleeping on Mike Pennix. And yes, I mentioned this

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Speaker 4: on a previous show. I have heard the handwringing about

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Speaker 4: the dynamics in the quarterback's room and what's it going

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Speaker 4: to be like to have Kirk Cousins looking over Mike

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Speaker 4: Pennix's shoulder the entire time. And I got to tell you,

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Speaker 4: I don't give one fig about any of that. I

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Speaker 4: think that this is an ultra confident young man who

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Speaker 4: throws the hell out of the football who this entire

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Speaker 4: coaching staff on the offensive side, on the defensive side,

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Speaker 4: and specifically with the plan for this offense moving forward.

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Speaker 4: They are running the entire ship through what he can

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Speaker 4: do and how he can unfold the layers of this

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Speaker 4: passing game and run the offense and in a very

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Speaker 4: multiple way. I think that this is one of their

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Speaker 4: advantages is that if the general population is sleeping a

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Speaker 4: little bit on Mike Pennix and has a very limited

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Speaker 4: sample size, I also think other teams are going to

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Speaker 4: be sleeping on Mike Pennocks. I'd certainly have a relatively

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Speaker 4: limited sample size. I bet he will go through struggles,

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Speaker 4: just like any young quarterback will, but the composure and

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Speaker 4: the confidence and the amount of football that this young

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Speaker 4: man has already seen, I just think it's all uphill

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Speaker 4: overall long term for him, and I think he's going

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Speaker 4: to have a great career.

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Speaker 3: And sneaky not as young as you know.

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Speaker 1: Most second year quarterbacks will be twenty six this year,

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Speaker 1: which I think is an advantage for him. He's seen

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Speaker 1: more football, he's more mature. He is one of the

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Speaker 1: biggest X factors of this entire NFL season. Reminds me

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Speaker 1: a lot of Jordan Love going into his first full season,

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Speaker 1: just that the talent's all there. I think the streakiness

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Speaker 1: might be there, the upside is there, I don't I

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Speaker 1: don't know how it's going to go.

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Speaker 2: We haven't seen the downside of the streakiness to the

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Speaker 2: extent that Jordan Love showed it. Again, Jordan Love a

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Speaker 2: much younger player.

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Speaker 1: At the time, maybe his college career before his last season.

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Speaker 4: Yes, but if you put together a season like that

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Speaker 4: at Washington and then carry it through into what he

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Speaker 4: showed at the NFL level, that's not two full seasons,

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Speaker 4: but that is two seasons where you're not seeing that streakiness.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and we go if we go back in honsight

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Speaker 2: and look at the outcomes for debor we look at

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Speaker 2: the how the outcomes for you know, his receivers. Although

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Speaker 2: mcmellan had a nice push late in the season, apparently

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Speaker 2: Michael Penix Junior was carrying that entire operation.

660
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 6: Dude, it's true.

661
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 1: He he makes me very excited to watch Atlanta Falcons

662
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 1: football games.

663
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 3: Now.

664
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Speaker 5: I have gotten one decision.

665
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 1: With quarterbacks off of three to four games sample size

666
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 1: at the end of their rookie year before.

667
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 3: So I just want to I just want to see

668
00:30:56,760 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 3: it I just want to see it again. I've been burned. Patrick.

669
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 3: You get the Panthers.

670
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 2: I am looking at the Carolina Panthers where obviously there's

671
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 2: guys like Jalen Koker who would be seen as a

672
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 2: secret weapon, but there's so much discussion about Jalen Coker

673
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 2: being the secret weapon that he can't be in the

674
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 2: secret weapon.

675
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 5: So I'm going to go back a couple of drafts.

676
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 2: I'm going to go to a player who was underperforming

677
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 2: in Ikey Aquanu, who had a great bounce back season,

678
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 2: and now the Panthers are going to be in position

679
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 2: to sign Equanu on a deal where, based on his

680
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 2: recent success, is going to be a great value for them.

681
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 2: Probably not for for Iki Iquanu, which is rough for him,

682
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 2: but it puts them in a position to get that

683
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 2: position locked up in a place where a lot of

684
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 2: teams aren't able to do that. And we saw the

685
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 2: way that tackles were flying off boards and people teams

686
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 2: were taking chances on guys. They can get a guy

687
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 2: who's been proven player who's shown growth within this coaching

688
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 2: staff and have them for a while and figure.

689
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 5: Out the rest of the roster.

690
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 2: Obviously, the defensive side of the ball needs a lot

691
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 2: of work, but a lot of reasons to feel great

692
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 2: about the offense.

693
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 1: It'll be interesting if they try to sign him before

694
00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 1: this season. Think they should because he has that fifth

695
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 1: year option and they could be locked down. They obviously

696
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 1: still feel good about their right tackle Taylor Moten, one

697
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 1: of the more underrated tackles in the league for last

698
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 1: handful of years. So that's a great way to start

699
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 1: an offense. And their offensive line is so much improved

700
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 1: from a few years ago.

701
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 3: Yeah.

702
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 4: Overall, I think their offensive line is a bit of

703
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 4: a secret weapon for them as well. Last year they

704
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 4: looked out standing and they have continuity coming into this

705
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 4: other season. Austin This next season, Austin Corbett is going

706
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 4: to be healthy. He's dealt with some really bad injuries

707
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 4: over the past couple of years. Taylor Moton, one of

708
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 4: my favorite people and players all time to ever cover,

709
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 4: is still kicking and still doing the dang thing at

710
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 4: such a high and consistent level. One of the most

711
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 4: slept on tackles in the league, I feel. But yeah,

712
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 4: I like this offensive line. I like it for Bryce Young,

713
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 4: who is always going to need that extra protection just

714
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 4: because of his size and his physical frame. This is

715
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 4: going to be exciting, I think, just in that perspective,

716
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 4: and they need Ikey to step forward because it was

717
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 4: so bad the first couple of years and they were

718
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 4: trying to make it work, make it work, and now

719
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 4: it finally looks like he's gaining confidence similar to the quarterback.

720
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 2: And I did hear the camp story of Bryce as

721
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 2: well as J. C. Horn verbally beefing and sparring, honking.

722
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 2: I would like them to escalate that to Cam and

723
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 2: Josh Norman.

724
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 6: Oh my god, that's when you know, creating.

725
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:19,479
Speaker 5: The picture, and then they could put both pictures up

726
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 5: in the facility.

727
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 4: That's when they're going to go. They'll go fifteen and

728
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 4: one that year or fifteen and two.

729
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 1: As Norman was bald. I mean, that would not be

730
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 1: a fight. I feel like you would win.

731
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 6: And the picture, the lasting photo of that is so epic.

732
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 4: It's Cam smiling as they're fighting, and he's so confident

733
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 4: in the fact he's like, I've got like one hundred

734
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 4: pounds on you.

735
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 6: It's just amazing.

736
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 1: I also like that offensive line made Chuba Hobbard like

737
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 1: a star. Yeah, and they could do it for Rico Dado,

738
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 1: they could do it for Trevory Dan who.

739
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 5: Just stop somebody trying to sneak thirteen guys out there?

740
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 3: So let's do the Saints.

741
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 1: I told you that for the Bears, Dennis Allen could

742
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 1: be their secret weapon. And what if I told you

743
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 1: that the Saints' secret weapon is Dennis Allen not being there,

744
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:09,840
Speaker 1: so like he is a secret weapon for both Just

745
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 1: the improved vibes and the feeling of something new is

746
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 1: enough to make some veterans who maybe weren't loving football

747
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 1: as much last year as they used to re engage

748
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:27,400
Speaker 1: with the sport on an exciting level. So just removing

749
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 1: that vibeless atmosphere and improving it with Killen Moore him

750
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:36,760
Speaker 1: not being there as their secret weapon, just a removal.

751
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 4: I if I were going to have this section, I

752
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:45,839
Speaker 4: would say the Saint's secret weapon is someday and somehow

753
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 4: trying to live up to the floor of Greg's standard

754
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 4: for this team and the weight of disappointment when they

755
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 4: let you down every single not me.

756
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:57,759
Speaker 1: How about the true Saints fans. I mean, this was

757
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 1: one of the most consistently successful team for fift you know,

758
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 1: fourteen years, and they just let it kind of rot.

759
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 4: I just I'm not even sure you are aware of

760
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 4: how your voice changes when you talk about them. I

761
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,319
Speaker 4: think that's their secret way. I'm probably harder I'm changing that.

762
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 2: I feel bad because the last time you uplifted Dennis

763
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 2: Allen and made me feel bad for my collective year's

764
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 2: worth of Dennis Allen jokes.

765
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, and so I felt that I need to step in,

766
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 5: and it was.

767
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:24,800
Speaker 1: All to set up this you didn't know as a

768
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 1: two part joke a few days later, A little nugget

769
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 1: for the people.

770
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:31,719
Speaker 3: I do believe in it. I do believe in it.

771
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:33,800
Speaker 3: I do believe that that defense.

772
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 1: I don't know if Brandon Staley is gonna build up

773
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 1: his name again, but I do think there's enough good

774
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 1: players on this defense, including in the secondary, to.

775
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 3: Be much better than they were a year.

776
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:46,759
Speaker 4: Another failed head coach who I think it will be

777
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:49,360
Speaker 4: a dang good coordinator and was a dang good coordinator

778
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:51,320
Speaker 4: despite the fact that he had all the stars in

779
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 4: the world, still had to install a brand new defense

780
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 4: through COVID. I think he will rEFInd himself in New

781
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:57,800
Speaker 4: Orleans in that role.

782
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 2: As long as because there's there's still some kind annuity

783
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 2: in the building. Obviously, the people that were there for

784
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 2: all segments, success and failure, as long as there's an

785
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 2: honest accounting of what went wrong and who was responsible

786
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 2: for it.

787
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 4: And why would you say they're still a looming I agree,

788
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 4: but that's the off season, and I had some issues

789
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 4: with their off season.

790
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:21,759
Speaker 1: But ultimately, you look at this team, and almost every

791
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 1: team can do that. But if you squit hard enough

792
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 1: and make a best case scenario of a lot of

793
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 1: these different position groups, they should be a lot more

794
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 1: fun to watch this year.

795
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 3: Let's wrap up the NFC South with your Buccaneers.

796
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:34,280
Speaker 6: My Buccaneers, yay Amika Buca.

797
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 4: I said before the draft he was one of my

798
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 4: favorite receivers because of his versatility and his pro readiness,

799
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 4: and he kind of reminded me on both of those

800
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 4: phases of Chris Godwin when he was coming out and

801
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 4: emerging in the league. That's one reason why I love

802
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:48,759
Speaker 4: this match with the Bucks. And now Baker Mayfield is

803
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 4: up here at the lectern talking about Amika Buka, the

804
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 4: rookie receiver who the Bucks obviously drafted this year, and

805
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,360
Speaker 4: his versatility and that they can plug him in anywhere

806
00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 4: and that he already has this trust developing with him

807
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:01,839
Speaker 4: and when Baker says it, I actually don't believe that

808
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:05,319
Speaker 4: that's an offseason trope. When you think about Baker's personality,

809
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 4: you think about Amika Buka's personality and just his overall

810
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 4: traits and his readiness, and I love this and I

811
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,799
Speaker 4: think this is a secret weapon for them because he

812
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:16,239
Speaker 4: will have to be ready to go. I think having

813
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:18,320
Speaker 4: him ready to go will be a major reason why

814
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 4: this offense does not lose a step out of the

815
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 4: gate despite dealing onboarding a new OC in King Grizzard

816
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 4: and the Lizard Wizard, and the fact that Chris Godwin

817
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:29,799
Speaker 4: will still need a little bit more time to get

818
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:32,319
Speaker 4: back from last year's injury. It's a win win win

819
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 4: for everybody that Amika Buka is ready and he's a

820
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:36,760
Speaker 4: secret weapon kind.

821
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:38,359
Speaker 1: Of looking at the offense in general, he's a great

822
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 1: example of I think a secret weapon for them, which

823
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:45,799
Speaker 1: is just great depth at the skill positions that they

824
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 1: don't have two great receivers, they have four to five

825
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 1: really promising ones.

826
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:51,840
Speaker 3: Jalen McMillan was a really.

827
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:53,799
Speaker 6: Good yeah, third receiver, get about him.

828
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 1: I think they feel really good about their running back position.

829
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,840
Speaker 1: They've been saying they think Sean Tucker is a starting

830
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 1: level running back in a certainly right That's why they

831
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 1: were maybe willing it's keep coming to let go of

832
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 1: Rashad White last like in the off season, but Vershod

833
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 1: White still there and Bucky Iervan's still there, so they're

834
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 1: they're very deep at a lot of positions.

835
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:16,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's an offense where and it does put

836
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 2: a lot on a mecha booka to be the secret weapon,

837
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 2: considering like Chris Godwin brings so much the table, especially

838
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 2: after the catch, and hopefully he comes back and is

839
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 2: able to get healthy, but there's no reason to doubt

840
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 2: like this particular group of players and Mike Evan's still

841
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:34,360
Speaker 2: doing it where you feel great about the offense and

842
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 2: it makes you realize how fun this division is going

843
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 2: to be, despite its detractors who may carry a podcast.

844
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:44,240
Speaker 1: I mean, Sterling Shepard was out there making big time plays.

845
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 1: I'm not a detractor. In the playoffs, they are deep.

846
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 1: I'm not a detractor.

847
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 6: Baker believers over here.

848
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 1: I did see him on Chris Simms's quarterback rankings in

849
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:59,800
Speaker 1: a special tier of like guys with big hoses or something,

850
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:02,840
Speaker 1: and it was him and Herb Sorry what eight and nine.

851
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:04,279
Speaker 3: That's a word we used to use.

852
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:06,759
Speaker 1: But it's not weird though for arm strength and it's

853
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 1: not weird at all. Arizona Cardinals, Patrick, you're up. You

854
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:14,320
Speaker 1: can't even give you Beabona to smile with that. Nenny

855
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 1: forces it.

856
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 2: It's a Jordan shruck back there, I do think because

857
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 2: the Arizona Cardinals, right stylistically, we've had talked about the

858
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 2: embodiment of the search bar, and I had to find

859
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,839
Speaker 2: a player for the secret weapon that I was talking

860
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 2: about because I recognize that they've had free agents and

861
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:36,439
Speaker 2: drafts at the position, but Zavian Collins, a player who

862
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 2: was kind of one of those kime bomb head scratchers.

863
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 2: A year after a kime bomb head scratcher where they

864
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 2: had Isaiah Simmons, didn't really know what to do with them.

865
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 2: So they draft the biggest middle linebacker they can possibly

866
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 2: find out of Tulsa and play him kind of out

867
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 2: of position. And Jonathan Gannon has come back in. He

868
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:54,360
Speaker 2: played at edge and was great against the run. Obviously,

869
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 2: you don't want a two hundred and seventy pounds dude

870
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 2: out there trying to cover people, and so like, that's

871
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:00,799
Speaker 2: a place where he's going to struggle. But there's so

872
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 2: many pieces on this franchise that were misutilized and underutilized,

873
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 2: and now in year three of this new regime, combined

874
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 2: with the rookie class, can be put in better positions

875
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:13,840
Speaker 2: along with the free agents to give us something to

876
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:14,840
Speaker 2: believe in in the desert.

877
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,759
Speaker 4: There's no question that the Cardinals on offense and on

878
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 4: defense have to take a step forward and sustain through

879
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:24,799
Speaker 4: an entire season versus one side or the other. In

880
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 4: this case, last season it was the offense sort of

881
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:30,759
Speaker 4: petering out after the midway point. I think that this

882
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:34,400
Speaker 4: team is a really good example of when good coaching

883
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:37,919
Speaker 4: in almost every level, especially right now on defense because

884
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:42,720
Speaker 4: that was where they were so depleted, meets good drafting

885
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:46,360
Speaker 4: and talent identification. To your point, Patrick, it's not just

886
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 4: about finding traits and throwing them on the field, which

887
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,799
Speaker 4: was so often what the Cardinals used to do under

888
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:56,320
Speaker 4: previous regimes, but they're actually being developed. There are players

889
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 4: on both sides of the ball that this coaching staff

890
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 4: is developing. I think that it is a real, very

891
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 4: like substance forward way to team build where they're at

892
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 4: right now, But none of it matters really unless they

893
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:10,840
Speaker 4: all collectively take this next.

894
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 1: Step forward, and if they picked the right guys to

895
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 1: come in and help them, because so many of their

896
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 1: starters and defense were not on the Team of Year ago,

897
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:21,360
Speaker 1: Klais Campbell's Vin, Tomlinson, Josh Sweat, maybe Will Johnson the rookie.

898
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:22,840
Speaker 3: But man, they have a lot of talent.

899
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:25,840
Speaker 1: I am going to I don't know if overrates the

900
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 1: right word, but kind of wish fulfillment. Pick them to

901
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:31,919
Speaker 1: do very well this season because I want to see

902
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:33,360
Speaker 1: it happen. I just want to see a little bit

903
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:35,360
Speaker 1: of a shake up. They have so many interesting players

904
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:38,880
Speaker 1: and coaches like be a real content, make the playoffs,

905
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:40,319
Speaker 1: win the division, stuff like that.

906
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:44,800
Speaker 2: It could happens, but that's a precipitous fall for somebody

907
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 2: in the West. It just the West is fun.

908
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 5: I love the peoplest too much.

909
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:53,959
Speaker 3: We don't know, let's talk about the West.

910
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 5: Let's do it.

911
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 3: We got the Rams a team I think like the Bears.

912
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 1: To me, it was harder to come up with the

913
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 1: the secret weapon because we obviously you put them on

914
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:06,759
Speaker 1: Front Street with adding DeVante Adams and talking about all

915
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 1: the different ways that this is like a go time

916
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 1: year and then I looked back in the secondary and

917
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:15,279
Speaker 1: I thought about the Cams, and I'm talking about Cam

918
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:18,319
Speaker 1: Curl and Cam Kitchen. So Curl was a really good

919
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 1: player for Washington and came over to the Rams and

920
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:24,240
Speaker 1: I think translated his skill set well. And Cam Kitchens

921
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 1: was a third round pick for the Rams a year

922
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:29,879
Speaker 1: ago that played pretty well in his rookie season at

923
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:32,840
Speaker 1: free safety. And I thought they were a good example

924
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 1: of a secret weapon. In general for the Rams, which

925
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 1: might much like the Kansas City Chiefs, I think they've

926
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:43,799
Speaker 1: done a good job not using that many resources in

927
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 1: the secondary and getting good enough to good play in

928
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 1: the secondary. I would say the Chiefs have done it

929
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 1: at a higher level, but the Rams have kind of

930
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:55,879
Speaker 1: been like the poor Man's having that sauce where it's

931
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 1: not huge money going to these players, and they've coached

932
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:02,479
Speaker 1: them up and they've got by without spending huge, huge

933
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 1: resources in a spot where a lot of teams.

934
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 4: Are And Cam spelled backwards is mac okay, So let

935
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 4: me remind you of Jalen McCullough, who is the undrafted

936
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:13,799
Speaker 4: free agent safety who led the team in interceptions last

937
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 4: season at the start of the year and through most

938
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 4: of the season cam Kinchin's third round pick out of Miami.

939
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 3: I always just say Kitchens, they're bad.

940
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 4: Then ended up matching his pace. This secondary is then

941
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 4: at corner they really are liking what they're seeing from

942
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:32,279
Speaker 4: Emmanuel Forbes right now in sort of this like reboosting

943
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 4: his confidence project that they've taken on. And you've seen

944
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:37,880
Speaker 4: this in the past. I actually had him comped to

945
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:40,840
Speaker 4: like a Leonard Floyd. Obviously very different players, positions, all

946
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 4: this stuff, but the complete loss of confidence, a complete

947
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 4: failure at the place that drafted him high, and then

948
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:49,400
Speaker 4: regaining that confidence with good coaching, a good scheme. Over

949
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:52,760
Speaker 4: in LA the coaching staff is sort of seeing proof

950
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 4: of concept with that, with Aubrey Pleasant really taking Emmanuel

951
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 4: Forbes under his wing. They are still thin on the outsides,

952
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 4: and I think that there's safeties are one of the

953
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:03,919
Speaker 4: strong points of this team. And to your point, Greig,

954
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 4: they don't invest a lot of resources in that group.

955
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 2: I think, especially with Forbes, a lot of people got

956
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 2: to realize that putting there's not many people on the

957
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:13,359
Speaker 2: planet that are going to look great as a rookie

958
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:17,359
Speaker 2: against aj Brown, right Like I understand people talk about

959
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 2: body types and all these other things, and you mentioned

960
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:23,320
Speaker 2: Mac and it made me realize, what does a gearhead

961
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:27,279
Speaker 2: say when the Rams are in cover too, that it's

962
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 2: dual overhead?

963
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 5: Cam?

964
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:34,919
Speaker 1: Jesus Hey, Now, Jordan sold it for you. I mean

965
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 1: he sounded like you said something terrible at that. I

966
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:40,359
Speaker 1: thought it was clever. Personally, it was clever. I just

967
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 1: you know, it just took a It was a journey

968
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 1: for me.

969
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 2: But thank you for pointing out the end in Cam

970
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 2: Kinchen's name literally this day.

971
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, I thought I thought it was Kitchens.

972
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 3: No idea, didn't say I had no idea. Uh, And

973
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 3: I apologize to that name.

974
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:54,440
Speaker 5: Sorry, Cam Seattle.

975
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:55,239
Speaker 6: I think it's fair.

976
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 3: He does cook fough. You got the Seahawks, Jordan, Yes,

977
00:44:59,600 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 3: I have.

978
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think their secret weapon.

979
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:03,719
Speaker 4: And again it's really kind of hard to figure out

980
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 4: it's not really a secret. But the second year of

981
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 4: this defense under Mike McDonald and defensive coordinator On Dirdey,

982
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:12,919
Speaker 4: adjusting some personnel up front and at inside linebacker really

983
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:16,440
Speaker 4: last season really helped with one of their biggest issues,

984
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:19,279
Speaker 4: and that was their run defense early on. Once that

985
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:22,800
Speaker 4: came along, they finished eleventh in points allowed, eighth in

986
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 4: defensive EPA and in the back third of the season

987
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 4: they were truly a formidable group. And I love what

988
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 4: this secondary can do. They've got Spoon, Rieg Wohlan, Julian Love,

989
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:36,359
Speaker 4: and Kobe Bryant as the safety pairing, and then now

990
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 4: they're adding nick Em and Warri And I think that

991
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 4: nick Em and Worry in tandem with Ernest Jones, who

992
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:44,839
Speaker 4: isn't necessarily going to be your side to side cover

993
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 4: linebacker all the time, but is so great blitzing and

994
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 4: is so great against the run that allows and Nick

995
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:52,920
Speaker 4: M and Warriy to kind of move up and back

996
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:55,840
Speaker 4: to and fro the line of scrimmage, being that second

997
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 4: hybrid linebacker who can help against the run but also

998
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 4: can cover the middle of the field. This defense is

999
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:04,879
Speaker 4: so much fun front to back, and I really think

1000
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:06,760
Speaker 4: that's going to be their secret slash not so secret

1001
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:07,719
Speaker 4: weapon this year.

1002
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:08,400
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1003
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 1: I think the history of Mike McDonald informs us so much.

1004
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:15,840
Speaker 1: We shouldn't just expect a total copy of what happened

1005
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 1: in Baltimore.

1006
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 3: But in Baltimore there were some early struggles.

1007
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 1: They finished out that first year strong, the roster looked

1008
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 1: good going into the second year, and they were lights out,

1009
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:26,239
Speaker 1: you know, maybe the best in league, certainly one of them.

1010
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:27,319
Speaker 3: His second year there.

1011
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 1: The way they finished last year makes you believe that

1012
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 1: he could do that again because Patrick, I think personnel

1013
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:38,800
Speaker 1: the floor should be top ten personnel. I do think

1014
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:41,359
Speaker 1: him and the coach at like they could be top five,

1015
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:44,240
Speaker 1: top three. Like the players are there and the coaches there.

1016
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 2: And normally they were willing to make those changes within

1017
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:50,279
Speaker 2: that first season, and we saw that and so many

1018
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 2: times people in teams of franchises wait to the offseason

1019
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 2: to do that. But I think the staff is very

1020
00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 2: introspective and it's ability to self evaluate, and so they

1021
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:02,880
Speaker 2: saw where things were working, like the coaching staff on

1022
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:06,359
Speaker 2: the roster position group by position group and made those

1023
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:09,239
Speaker 2: changes where they went ahead and did that and now

1024
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 2: they can focus on the next thing, which is a

1025
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 2: reason to believe.

1026
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:14,319
Speaker 3: Ye shout out like to Rodd's and who's like a

1027
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 3: good player. It got rid of him in the middle

1028
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:17,880
Speaker 3: of the season and obviously that worked out great with

1029
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 3: Ernest Jones coming in.

1030
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely sign an extension this offseason. The whispers at

1031
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:24,759
Speaker 4: a camp out a mini camp are saying that they

1032
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 4: might blitz Spoon a little bit more, which I think

1033
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 4: is great. He was incredibly impactful when he did get

1034
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 4: those opportunities. And they have enough defensive backs now to

1035
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 4: keep these rotations going and keep the continuity there while

1036
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 4: still moving people in at the quarterback and taking them

1037
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:40,880
Speaker 4: away from the defensive backfield.

1038
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:41,960
Speaker 3: Am I remembering wrong?

1039
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 1: Or did he essentially end Tommy DeVito mania by doing

1040
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 1: such a thing?

1041
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 3: Devin Witherspoon just blitzeing his face off? Or was that

1042
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 3: Daniel Jones might have been Tomy Devitovido?

1043
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:58,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, one of the mailed experiments in New York.

1044
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 1: Yes, I think it was Devin with us that our

1045
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 1: favorite meme that Monday night game for some reason, by

1046
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 1: whether it would just sticks in my head?

1047
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:08,400
Speaker 3: All right, forty nine ers, wrap it up.

1048
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 2: The secret weapon for the San Francisco forty nine ers

1049
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 2: is a new shortened approach by Jake Moody, who.

1050
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:16,239
Speaker 5: Was coming back.

1051
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 3: This is secret. It's great.

1052
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:20,440
Speaker 2: He was coming off of an ankle injury last year

1053
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:23,760
Speaker 2: that was also maybe came back a little bit too early.

1054
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:27,279
Speaker 2: Is seventy two percent on his field goal percentage for

1055
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:29,839
Speaker 2: a team that lost by an average of three point

1056
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 2: four points and so ultimately, like we know, the margins

1057
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:35,719
Speaker 2: are very slim, especially for that forty nine ers team

1058
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 2: last year dealing with the injuries and they've got all

1059
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 2: the departures. But if Jake Moody can make eighty five

1060
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:43,759
Speaker 2: percent of his kicks, the circumstances look a little bit

1061
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:46,279
Speaker 2: different in this West. That's a jumble where we think

1062
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 2: everybody can do better than Maybe they're ultimately going.

1063
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:50,439
Speaker 3: Well, what if I toy Road?

1064
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:53,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that, But he's got to go win

1065
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:56,440
Speaker 1: that job because it's a little under the radar. They

1066
00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 1: brought in Greg Joseph recently, who's had his moments in

1067
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 1: the end, I guess, And we got a full blown

1068
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:05,440
Speaker 1: kicking competition at forty nine ers camp.

1069
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 6: Get ready, wooh secret weapons.

1070
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 2: The unique thing about kicking competitions is they don't just

1071
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:13,879
Speaker 2: end in training camp. Somebody missing a few kicks during

1072
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 2: the series, and the kicking competitions last forever.

1073
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:19,759
Speaker 3: Maybe that's a secret weapon for the forty nine ers.

1074
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:24,399
Speaker 1: Isn't training camp just more fun to cover if there's

1075
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 1: a kicking competition.

1076
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:28,400
Speaker 4: Those are stats you should be tracking. Those are stats

1077
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 4: you should be charting throughout the course of training camp.

1078
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:34,240
Speaker 4: One time I was covering Graham Ganot who was always

1079
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 4: very honest and like very relatable talking with media. He

1080
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:40,760
Speaker 4: was in a kicking competition and at the time actually

1081
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 4: with Harrison Butker, who they then cut and he had

1082
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:48,360
Speaker 4: a kick that went wildly to the right of the goalpost.

1083
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 5: And I have.

1084
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:54,960
Speaker 4: And I happened to make a note of a make

1085
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 4: a mention of that in my practice report, and he

1086
00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 4: marched up to me on the sideline and said that

1087
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 4: wasn't a shank and then showed me what it actually looks. Oh,

1088
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 4: to shank, I appreciated the teaching mode.

1089
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:08,239
Speaker 5: Put you on shot to Gham Graham Gano.

1090
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:13,360
Speaker 1: Shout out to the group of individuals I was walking

1091
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:18,920
Speaker 1: behind on Canal Street last February in New Orleans, all

1092
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 1: wearing Bucker jerseys. Don't know if that was his family

1093
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:25,960
Speaker 1: or just big fans, but either way, it was like

1094
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:29,480
Speaker 1: seven seven Bucker T shirts and jerseys.

1095
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:32,440
Speaker 6: I think that the different approach to.

1096
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 4: His kick that Jake Rudy is taking really brings home

1097
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Speaker 4: a truth that some of us have to learn at times.

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Speaker 6: And it's not the size of your leg but.

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Speaker 5: The way that you use it. Yeah, thank you for

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00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:48,880
Speaker 5: ignoring my take, and also technique is important.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think people look at a kicker or miss

1102
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 2: and they're like, Ah, this guy's in his head. You know,

1103
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 2: I'm an expert. I've watched six episodes of Doctor Fild,

1104
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 2: so I know what human brains do.

1105
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Speaker 4: And this guy, his brain is bad him to become

1106
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:04,960
Speaker 4: a great kicker because I have a great nickname for

1107
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:07,240
Speaker 4: if he has a fan base, the mood swings.

1108
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Speaker 6: O like that leg swing, you know, mood.

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00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:10,719
Speaker 5: I like that.

1110
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Speaker 1: I can imagine that if he was a buccaneer, just

1111
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 1: being in the corner as one of those little fan

1112
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 1: groups that they do. It's like fifteen different fan groups.

1113
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:22,160
Speaker 1: Look forty nine ers fans. You also have a healthy

1114
00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:25,279
Speaker 1: Nick Boson Christian McCaffrey on the field, which it's the

1115
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 1: off season, but that always feels good. That is a

1116
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:33,880
Speaker 1: little dose of optimism for you on this Monday. Wow,

1117
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:39,279
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a big week. I can't wait for

1118
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 1: this next episode. I am going to be listening to

1119
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:46,080
Speaker 1: it immediately. It is the first NFL Daily which I

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00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:48,359
Speaker 1: will not take part Patrick Clavon.

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Speaker 5: Hosting because single handedly been carrying the show.

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00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:55,399
Speaker 1: Oh that's not true, it's true, but really looking forward

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Speaker 1: to that. So it's going to be Patrick in the studio.

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Speaker 1: Next time will be When's day football is back.