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Speaker 1: everybody a little double dip on our Tuesday morning podcast,

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Speaker 1: Tom Curran the best reporter arguably covering the Patriots and

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Speaker 1: my friend Joe just Matt Moseley on the Cowboys. They're exuberance,

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Speaker 1: they're throwing festivals down in Dallas after crushing the Washington

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Speaker 1: football team. And you know, obviously people are linked to

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Speaker 1: me because I'm in the business of having strong opinions.

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Speaker 1: I don't hold back and I'm not ever terribly concerned

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Speaker 1: how my opinions land for you. I have a right

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Speaker 1: to an opinion. You haven't a right to an opinion

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Speaker 1: on my opinion. And that's where it ends. Baker Mayfield

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Speaker 1: had his worst professional game, standalone national TV game over

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Speaker 1: the weekend, and I do believe that Andrew Barry, the GM,

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Speaker 1: a really smart, respected guy, has already made his decision

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Speaker 1: on Baker Mayfield. I think they're going to go after

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Speaker 1: Derek Carr, Deshaun Watson, They'll make a run on Russell Wilson.

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Speaker 1: But I just don't think they think Baker is face

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Speaker 1: of the franchise material beyond playing. And I'll give you

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Speaker 1: a great example. Dak Prescott of the Cowboys and Baker

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Speaker 1: Mayfield of the Browns have a lot in common because

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys and Browns are essentially the same team. One

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Speaker 1: is on fire and pulling away with a chance to

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Speaker 1: be a Number one seed, and one is circling the drain.

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Speaker 1: I think about this. Dallas has five Pro Bowlers, Tyron Smith,

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Speaker 1: Zack Martin, Micah Parsons, Trayvon Diggs, and Brian Andre a punter.

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Speaker 1: Cleveland has five Pro Bowlers, two on the offensive line,

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Speaker 1: Wyatt Teller and Joel Betonio, a pass rusher, Miles Garrett,

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Speaker 1: a corner Denzel Ward, just like the Cowboys have Treyvon

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Speaker 1: Diggs and a running back Nick Chubb. Both are really

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Speaker 1: Chubb and Kareem Hunt both have star volume veteran receivers,

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Speaker 1: great route runners Amari Cooper and Jarvis Landry both as

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Speaker 1: aforementioned elite corners. Treyvon Diggs Denziel Ward both have standouts

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Speaker 1: at left tackle who have missed games this year, Tyron

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Speaker 1: is not as lively athletically as Micah Parsons for Dallas,

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Speaker 1: but both serve the same purpose a hyper athletic rookie linebacker.

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Speaker 1: Both have above average defenses, offensive minded head coaches, charismatic

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Speaker 1: billionaire owners. They're on high profile, often discussed teams. The

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Speaker 1: difference is Dak Prescott has much better judgment. There is

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Speaker 1: no constant agitation calling out his medical staff, talking about

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Speaker 1: turmoil between he and the coaches, which doesn't exist. Baker

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Speaker 1: at their playing judgment. They're essentially both playing for the

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Speaker 1: exact same team. The difference is Dak's judgment is better.

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Speaker 1: He's completing this year sixty nine percent of his throws,

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Speaker 1: Baker sixty two. That's judgment. One has twenty nine touchdowns,

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Speaker 1: ten picks, that's Dak. Baker has fifteen touchdowns, eleven picks.

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Speaker 1: One is a passer rating over one hundred. That's Dak.

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Speaker 1: the same personnel. I think Nick Chubb is better than

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Speaker 1: both the Cowboys running backs, but I do feel Micah

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Speaker 1: both quarterbacks essentially are given the same opportunity. The more

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Speaker 1: mature quarterback, the smarter quarterback, the quarterback with the better

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Speaker 1: Baker is constantly looking to prove everybody wrong. He is

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Speaker 1: a risk taker in his private life. I'll leave some

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Speaker 1: video is what we've both seen. Baker is a risk

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Speaker 1: He is a risk taker more than Dak on the field.

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Speaker 1: And the truth is in both Baker and Dak Prescott's

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Speaker 1: This is a run first operation in both Cleveland and Dallas.

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Speaker 1: better than the Colts, but then they lost the other

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Speaker 1: game because they weren't ready and they weren't as good

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Speaker 1: as the other team. And to do that in the

425
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Speaker 1: final stages of a season is jaw dropping. How does

426
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:56,800
Speaker 1: that happen? But it's a new team. It's half the team.

427
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Speaker 1: Half the roster in terms of starters, is either in

428
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Speaker 1: their first year with the team, first year as a

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Speaker 1: starter with the team, or in their just their second season. Tommy,

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Speaker 1: that's it. I got fifteen minutes with Tom Current. I

431
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 1: got Matt Mosley on the Cowboys. He's a riot. Good

432
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Speaker 1: seeing you, buddy. Hey, happy new Year, Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: Do not be shy call me anytime. Thanks Tom, all right,

434
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Speaker 1: but to see you all right. Before I get into

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Speaker 1: Matt Mosley, co host of the Doomsday podcast, and our

436
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,000
Speaker 1: buddy here at the volume. You know, I was thinking

437
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:39,439
Speaker 1: about this with COVID and the omicron virus, right, And

438
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 1: you know a lot of conservatives are like, if you

439
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:48,920
Speaker 1: get vaccinated, you don't want you don't care about your freedom.

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00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 1: You know, I want to retain my freedom. And I

441
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 1: was thinking about this. The reason I took a booster

442
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:58,119
Speaker 1: last week. The reason I get a vaccine. Have you

443
00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 1: ever gotten injured? It's the fucking worst, not just the injury,

444
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:09,119
Speaker 1: the rehab, the isolation, the laying in bed by yourself,

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00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 1: the endless watching television. And I was thinking about this virus.

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00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 1: So two nights ago, I'm in Park City, Utah. My

447
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 1: wife's like, hey, there's some friends. They want to go

448
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 1: to dinner. And I said, I got nothing against the friends.

449
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:27,360
Speaker 1: They're great people, but I'm not going to during this variant.

450
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 1: I'm not having dinner with anybody outside our family because

451
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,199
Speaker 1: I don't want to catch this thing. It's not a

452
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:35,160
Speaker 1: fear of catching it. It's a fear of fourteen days

453
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 1: of isolation in a bed and nobody can talk to me.

454
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Speaker 1: And so I just want to say this to all

455
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Speaker 1: the anti vaxers. It's not really a freedom thing for me.

456
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 1: It's that I haven't been sick and probably six years.

457
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 1: And one of the reasons I wash my hands NonStop

458
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 1: even before COVID is I don't like isolation. I don't

459
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,960
Speaker 1: like being sick because I hadn't do anything, and when

460
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 1: I got my booster shot, for about eighteen to twenty

461
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 1: four hours, I was overheating and I just had no energy.

462
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 1: I was roaldy lethargic, and I was thinking to myself, God,

463
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 1: what if I just felt like this. I knew I

464
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 1: wasn't going to die. I felt like this for two weeks.

465
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Speaker 1: I couldn't exercise, I couldn't hang out with friends, I

466
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Speaker 1: couldn't go to a restaurant. Some of this isn't fear

467
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 1: of COVID, because I am pretty healthy. It's fear of

468
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Speaker 1: not being able to maintain the quality of my life

469
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:38,959
Speaker 1: because I hate sitting around and doing nothing. And with that,

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Speaker 1: it's interesting. I'm bringing Matt Mosley. You had a really

471
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Speaker 1: serious bike accident and during it you went through a

472
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Speaker 1: very probably diligent rehab. But what you also probably went

473
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Speaker 1: through during this time is the inability to do things

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Speaker 1: that you loved to do. And I'm interested. You don't

475
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Speaker 1: have to comment on the on the COVID or anything

476
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 1: like that, but when you were going through that, was

477
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Speaker 1: that about a six month rehab for you, Matt after

478
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Speaker 1: the bicycle accident? Yeah, I mean close to a year,

479
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 1: but six months, six or seven months of intense rehab.

480
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Speaker 1: And I gotta tell you not to go too far

481
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 1: off on this, but I don't and I don't get

482
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Speaker 1: into I'm kind of like you in the sense that

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Speaker 1: I don't ever use whatever platforms I have to, Like

484
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 1: I never understand, you know, Twitter is such an echo chamber,

485
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 1: Like why do we all get on there and like

486
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Speaker 1: tell everybody what to do? It just doesn't really make

487
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Speaker 1: any sense. Personally. I had this this huge feeling and

488
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 1: release of of just relief, a sense of relief when

489
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Speaker 1: I had that vaccination. And it's not because oh I'm

490
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Speaker 1: taking some huge stance or anything like that. It's kind

491
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Speaker 1: of what you just said. I just felt like I

492
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Speaker 1: could kind of have a semblance of a life again.

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Speaker 1: And so and even when we had a horrible freeze

494
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Speaker 1: in Texas, which I know sounds weird, but we did,

495
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 1: and it's down a grid, it postponed that to where

496
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 1: like I had to get one the first factination in January,

497
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Speaker 1: and the second one I had to wait till like

498
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Speaker 1: the early March, and it was extremely frustrating. So, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't really get into this. Oh my gosh,

500
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you a million reasons or here's why

501
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 1: you should do this for me personally, it's just about

502
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 1: kind of what you're saying I feel like I can

503
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 1: do more and can live more life. Now some people

504
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 1: will say, well, I don't live in fear. That's fine.

505
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,120
Speaker 1: I again, I don't tell people what to do. But

506
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Speaker 1: when I got my booster, for instance, I felt like,

507
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:47,959
Speaker 1: you know what, that's a little more layer than I'm adding.

508
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:50,720
Speaker 1: And if I get sick, if I get the COVID,

509
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 1: which obviously I could, Yeah, it's gonna be short. Yes,

510
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 1: it's gonna hopefully not be a big deal. Yes, So

511
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Speaker 1: it just from me from a logical standpoint, it makes

512
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Speaker 1: sense of it makes sense. But again I don't, you know,

513
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 1: try to tell everybody what to do, because everybody has

514
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Speaker 1: to live their lives. And this whole thing about like

515
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 1: why do we think that going on like shaming people

516
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 1: is suddenly going to work. Why we do things like

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00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 1: that is to sort of build up ourselves and make

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Speaker 1: us seem really smart. So anyway, not doing that, No,

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00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 1: all those things sort of resonate with me. Yeah. No,

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00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 1: it I think you and I agree, is that we

521
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Speaker 1: all know once you get the vaccine in the booster,

522
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 1: you could get this stuff, but it won't set me

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Speaker 1: away from the public for fourteen days. It'll be four

524
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 1: and then I can go back to my stuff. So

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00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 1: that to me, Yeah, it's not a fear, it's a

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Speaker 1: I don't like to get out of the quality of

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Speaker 1: my life, and it's really high and I'm really active.

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Speaker 1: And if I get this thing, take away five days,

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Speaker 1: don't take away twenty five days. That's what I worry about. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, the one thing you don't ever have to

531
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Speaker 1: reiterate to me is the high quality of your life.

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Speaker 1: I sort of get mostly speaking of high quality, the

533
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Speaker 1: hell that was, you know, I was saying this today.

534
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Speaker 1: If you look at the Cleveland Browns and the Dallas Cowboys,

535
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 1: it's a lot of the same stuff. Two Pro bowlers

536
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 1: in the old line, veteran high volume receiver, quality tight ends,

537
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 1: two excellent running backs, a star corner, an elite pass rusher,

538
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 1: a rookie linebacker who is outperforming Mike's better, outperforming expectations.

539
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 1: The difference is one quarterback is pulling down his franchise,

540
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 1: Dak is distributing, doing a Chris Paul and elevating it.

541
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Speaker 1: And I was thinking about the criticisms of Dak this

542
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 1: year that he won't go downtown, he won't throw it deep,

543
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 1: and I thought I'm watching this game, he and I

544
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 1: can't compare it to Chris Paul. I got Devin Booker

545
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 1: to the right. I've got bridges on the outside, I've

546
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 1: got a bench, I've got DeAndre Eton inside for the lobs.

547
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 1: I can give you fourteen and we win by eleven.

548
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 1: I don't need to give you twenty nine. I don't

549
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 1: need to shoot threes. And I watched Dak yesterday and

550
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 1: I thought, you know, he's really figured out. He knows

551
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 1: exactly where to go to the ball. If you look

552
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 1: at his home and road splits. He makes virtually no

553
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 1: mistakes at home. He makes no bad throws at home.

554
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Speaker 1: And it was just I just not just because they won,

555
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 1: but I just kind of appreciated Dak's self awareness. He's

556
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 1: looking at this talent going, I don't have to score

557
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:36,240
Speaker 1: twenty nine a night. I can go fourteen points and

558
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 1: thirteen assists and we win easily. And I think that's

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00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 1: why when he went into that funk, it seems so

560
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 1: weird to us that he was like making poor decisions

561
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 1: to the point like every certain other quarterbacks, Baker or whoever,

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Speaker 1: we don't immediately go. He must be hurt. He must

563
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Speaker 1: be hurt. I think you're right to your point. Back

564
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 1: can be so on point usually that when he's not,

565
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:08,759
Speaker 1: we're like wrong, okay, is in even last night you

566
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 1: could tell NBC was ready to show all these shots

567
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 1: they had of look at his foot, look at his

568
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 1: weight transfer, look at his back foot, and and it

569
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:17,839
Speaker 1: was like, well, we've got all these stings, we might

570
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 1: as well show them. Well, the guy's twenty for twenty two.

571
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 1: Something's going something's going right. Um, But I think I

572
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 1: think it's a good I think it's I think it's

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00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 1: a really fair point to say, yeah, he sometimes now

574
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Speaker 1: where he gave you last night that you haven't seen

575
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 1: in a while, And what makes you think he is

576
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:40,400
Speaker 1: feeling better is and we've always sort of known he

577
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Speaker 1: might he even though he doesn't admit it, we've sort

578
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,719
Speaker 1: of thought he wasn't physically right. He took off a

579
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:50,760
Speaker 1: couple of times. Now, it wasn't as beautiful as watching Kyler,

580
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:55,360
Speaker 1: even as Josh Allen, who on fourth down is joking

581
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:59,359
Speaker 1: people running over people. It wasn't that, but it's enough.

582
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,400
Speaker 1: It's enough to make him a threat. And then how

583
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Speaker 1: about when he extended that one play and he pointed,

584
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, schoolyard football, head on down the field,

585
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,839
Speaker 1: gallop and he made that play. That's sort of the

586
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 1: old deck. And that's why, man, this is why it's

587
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 1: so exciting. The NFL is so great right now. I

588
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:24,240
Speaker 1: only can think of one team that I would say

589
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 1: I would think the Cowboys. I just wouldn't give them

590
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:31,239
Speaker 1: much of a chance against. And part part of it

591
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:35,879
Speaker 1: because of that environment going into Lambeau. But everybody else,

592
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 1: I mean I Cowboys are as good as anybody. You know.

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00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 1: It's really interesting. Matt I was talking about the Packers

594
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 1: on the show a couple days ago. So something that

595
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 1: Vegas cares about is it's much more fun to watch

596
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 1: a boxer with a knockout punch, whether you love Tyson

597
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 1: or George Foreman or Ali in his prime, they were

598
00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:59,839
Speaker 1: much more dynamic than Larry Holmes, who was the king

599
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 1: of jab. Is that Dallas take out the Denver game.

600
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 1: Dallas either wins, but they often win like a Buffalo

601
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 1: or a Tampa or a Kansas City. They can blow

602
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:15,239
Speaker 1: you out, they can embarrass you. Green Bay's point differential

603
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 1: is plus fifty nine this year. It's eleventh in the league.

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00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 1: Forty three of the fifty nine is two wins over

605
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:26,880
Speaker 1: the Bears and one over the Lions. Is that green

606
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 1: Bay is not finishing off teams. The fact that Cleveland

607
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 1: through four picks in Lambeaux two twenty left Cleveland's going

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00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 1: for the win. There's I watched, I went and I

609
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 1: went and did some digging. The Packers are thirty first

610
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:50,839
Speaker 1: against the run yards per carry you can attack. I

611
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 1: honestly believe Dallas the Rams now with cam Akers, Sony Michelle,

612
00:36:56,080 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 1: San Francisco. If Leonard Fournett comes back, green Bay has

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00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:06,720
Speaker 1: got to me, Matt a hole you can own time

614
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 1: of control. They Cleveland is a great Cleveland is Dallas

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00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:15,879
Speaker 1: if you look at their Pro bowlers on offense, an

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00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 1: offensive coach, interior Pro Bowl lineman, left tackle, struggle to

617
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 1: stay healthy, two good backs, volume receiver, capable tight ends.

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00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 1: I think Dallas matches up okay with green Bay. I

619
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 1: really do, and a much more athletic defensive front. The

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00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:34,799
Speaker 1: only thing I would say to that is something you

621
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 1: led off with the splits at home. The Cowboys are

622
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:45,239
Speaker 1: unbelievable and it's just not The offense is not traveling now.

623
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 1: The defense is capable of traveling. But what I'm saying

624
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:51,319
Speaker 1: is Dak has to show that he can do it

625
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:56,400
Speaker 1: in those sorts of elements. And what he's shown is

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00:37:56,440 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 1: that in the seventy two degrees of Jerry world that

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00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 1: he's extremely comfortable. Um I don't. I mean, we can

628
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 1: look at Josh Allen, we can look at Tom Brady,

629
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:13,799
Speaker 1: we can look at Aaron Rodgers. We know they are

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00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 1: all built to win in the cold. Mahomes can do

631
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 1: it because Kansas City is actually a cold weather place.

632
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 1: You know, it gets crazy, it gets crazy colder. I

633
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:25,920
Speaker 1: don't think we have a great feel for Dak in

634
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:30,359
Speaker 1: that environment. Now to your point, could you lean on

635
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:35,919
Speaker 1: Zeke and Pollard? Maybe so? And that's why it's you're right,

636
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 1: and Jaran's coming back, Jarwin's about ready to come back.

637
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 1: And Schultz can take a hit, and he's a really

638
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 1: good weapon. He's a nice weapon. Um I just I

639
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 1: worry a little bit about Dak in those types of environments.

640
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 1: And you have to trust what you're seeing. And this year,

641
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:59,399
Speaker 1: what we're seeing is a is a team that functions

642
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:03,879
Speaker 1: unbelievably better at home than they do on the road.

643
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 1: So if they are able to grab that number two seed,

644
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 1: then you can stay at home until you get to

645
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 1: the NFC title game. What is it like to cover

646
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 1: the Cowboys living in Dallas when they're in first place,

647
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 1: when they're exciting, when they have stars, What is it like? Well,

648
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:29,919
Speaker 1: it's it's it's a lot of fun, and it's it's

649
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 1: just NonStop, and unlike other places where other things are

650
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 1: still sort of going on. I mean, thank goodness, like

651
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 1: for Jason Kidd and the Mavericks that their horrible season

652
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 1: right now is going completely unnoticed. Other cities sort of

653
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:48,799
Speaker 1: have the capacity to embrace other things, whether it be

654
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:52,400
Speaker 1: hockey or whatever, and this city does not. And so

655
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 1: it's it's it's it's the only thing and there's really

656
00:39:56,719 --> 00:40:00,719
Speaker 1: nothing now. The COVID makes it weird. The media can't

657
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:02,759
Speaker 1: even go out there the rest of the season. They

658
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:05,400
Speaker 1: will not even be able to go to practice. And

659
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 1: you know, you know how it is when you're able

660
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 1: to send me to practice. There's just certain things Colin

661
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:12,400
Speaker 1: I can pick up on that others came. But uh,

662
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:19,360
Speaker 1: it's it's but it's it's almost like Christmas barely even happened.

663
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:24,359
Speaker 1: The Cowboys, that the crowd at that game last night,

664
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:29,360
Speaker 1: and in the reaction to this is just it supersedes anything,

665
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 1: and uh, it's why. It's why. Years ago, the Tom

666
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 1: Landry when I was a kid, the Tom Landry Cowboys,

667
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:39,440
Speaker 1: they put out an album called I Don't Want to

668
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 1: Be Home at Christmas. I could if I could think

669
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:43,880
Speaker 1: of it, I could even get the tune going, and

670
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:47,879
Speaker 1: it was like went platinum. Okay, it was bigger than

671
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl Shuffle. And it was the Manster you know,

672
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 1: and too tall in Harvey and all of them singing

673
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 1: about how they don't want to be home at Christmas.

674
00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:01,320
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's a different It's I mean, it's exciting

675
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 1: for anybody that's in the playoffs, but when the Cowboys

676
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:06,360
Speaker 1: have a good I just don't think. I think though

677
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:11,720
Speaker 1: this Cowboys group, people are still not quite ready to

678
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:16,439
Speaker 1: accept this team's. Part of that's McCarthy, part of that's

679
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 1: the way Dak has played. But what's funny is this

680
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 1: is think about I mean, I'm seeing people now play

681
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 1: stuff from things like you were saying and other folks

682
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 1: were saying about we came into this season talking about

683
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 1: how they would have to overcome a defense score thirty

684
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:36,400
Speaker 1: forty points a game or whatever to win. The whole

685
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 1: thing has flipped and the calling card of this team

686
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 1: is now its defense. And not only do they turned

687
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 1: you over, but they score when they turned it over.

688
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 1: I mean, did you see you saw Lawrence? I mean,

689
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:53,760
Speaker 1: our most pass rushers look like that in the open field.

690
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 1: Bringing the athleticisms off to charts with this group. Yeah, no,

691
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 1: I was saying this. The Patriots may have the best

692
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 1: culture in the league and the best coach, but by

693
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 1: this point in the season, and you're not fooling anybody,

694
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:11,839
Speaker 1: you've unveiled all your tricks. You have to have playmakers.

695
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 1: That's what Buffalo has at quarterback, That's what Kansas City has,

696
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:20,920
Speaker 1: That's what Dallas has. Because you're there's a certain scheme,

697
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 1: fatigue everybody, we've added games, We're fifteen weeks through. Nobody's

698
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:32,400
Speaker 1: fooling anybody anymore outside of the occasional fake punt. You

699
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 1: line up now, and do you have guys that can

700
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 1: do things off script? And Dallas does and has several

701
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 1: of them. And I don't think there's a ton of

702
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 1: teams that do. I think the Rams have some, I

703
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 1: think the Bucks have some. I think Kansas City does,

704
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 1: I think Buffalo does, and I think Green Bay has.

705
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:51,359
Speaker 1: You know, Davante Adams, Aaron Rodgers, there's guys that can

706
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 1: do stuff off script. But so I want to ask

707
00:42:54,600 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 1: you one big twelve holiday question because you are the voice,

708
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:05,319
Speaker 1: the moral compass of the Baylor Bears. So I want

709
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 1: to ask you this. I got into this discussion the

710
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:14,359
Speaker 1: other day and I said, you know, we're always very

711
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:17,799
Speaker 1: optimistic about new coaching hires, Like I thought Matt Rule

712
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 1: would be a home run and that ship is just

713
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 1: gone sideways fast Urban Meyer. I would have bet a

714
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:26,840
Speaker 1: lot of money he would have at least lasted a

715
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 1: year in Jacksonville. I was very high on Joe Judge.

716
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 1: And so during this college football season, a lot of

717
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 1: big name schools had big hires Miami, Mario, Crystal Ball,

718
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:47,880
Speaker 1: Brian Kelly, LSU, Lincoln Riley USC, and then Brett Venable's Oklahoma.

719
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 1: And I got into this discussion the other day with

720
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 1: a friend and he said, one of these guys is

721
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:54,279
Speaker 1: going to tank. He goes, you know, it's not going

722
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:55,840
Speaker 1: to be a four for four of those schools and

723
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,360
Speaker 1: Marcus Freemant at Notre Dame. And so I'll lay this

724
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:01,840
Speaker 1: out for you, Matt Mosley, I said, well, Lincoln Riley

725
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 1: will succeed because it's the weakest conference and USC with

726
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 1: average coaches. Clay Helton won seventy two percent of PAC

727
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 1: twelve games and he was garbage. So Lincoln Riley will

728
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 1: succeed to some level. I said, Brian Kelly's won everywhere.

729
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 1: Why wouldn't he win at the place where you can

730
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 1: accumulate the most talent. I think he'll win to some level.

731
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 1: I said, My guess is Notre Dame didn't lose any players.

732
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:36,920
Speaker 1: They have momentum, a workable schedule, and they retained all

733
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:39,479
Speaker 1: their coaches, so there's great continuity. I said, I don't

734
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 1: see Marcus Freeman going sideways fast. He may not be

735
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 1: Brian Kelly, but I don't see it unraveling quickly. And

736
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 1: I said, Oklahoma's interesting. The conference they're entering in two

737
00:44:54,040 --> 00:45:02,400
Speaker 1: years is only getting better. Most defensive hires aren't working

738
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 1: nearly as well. If you look around the NFL and

739
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:09,800
Speaker 1: college as offensive hires. Brett Venables is sort of a rigid,

740
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 1: quirky personality, little steph And I said, I don't know

741
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 1: how long they'll be down. I don't think that's going

742
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:22,879
Speaker 1: to work in Oklahoma long term. Not to mention they

743
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 1: just lost their offensive brainpower with Lincoln Riley, and I'm like,

744
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's going to work. So you

745
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 1: tell me, as a big twelve guy, how is the

746
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 1: Venables higher viewed? And how do you view Oklahoma over

747
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 1: the next five years entering the SEC. Because of the

748
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:44,880
Speaker 1: very way they approach and their culture, I think will always,

749
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 1: at least in the post MATC. Brown world will stay

750
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:53,759
Speaker 1: ahead of Texas. I just do. Even though start got

751
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 1: the quarterback, you never know what he could get going there. Vinibles.

752
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:03,279
Speaker 1: That whole thing fascinates me. I will just tell you

753
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 1: this to watch out for Lincoln on this. He was

754
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 1: handed like unbelievable. What he I mean, Baker, love him

755
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:17,719
Speaker 1: or hate him or whatever, was an unbelievable college quarterback.

756
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:24,399
Speaker 1: Some of this dropped in Lincoln's lap. I think Oklahoma,

757
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 1: by the very nature of their culture and everything. And

758
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 1: here's the other thing that we didn't mention, or you

759
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:35,439
Speaker 1: didn't mention. Jeff Levy just went in there. That's gonna

760
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 1: be fascinating. So they replace a guy who's obviously a

761
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 1: great offensive mind with the guy from Old miss Who

762
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:45,879
Speaker 1: do you know where Jeff Levy comes from? That's art

763
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 1: Bryle's son in law. So I mean again, it's it's

764
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:52,879
Speaker 1: like a landmine or whatever to even bring up Art's name.

765
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:58,800
Speaker 1: But Arts offense, I mean, he was maybe the greatest

766
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:02,280
Speaker 1: offensive coach during that era that he was the Baylor.

767
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 1: He was unbelievable. He took his scheme and beat far

768
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:12,240
Speaker 1: more talented teams because he knew what he'd needed. If Levy,

769
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:14,719
Speaker 1: his son in law, is anything like that, Oklahoma will

770
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:18,959
Speaker 1: be just fine. There are people who think Oklahoma will

771
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:22,759
Speaker 1: be better without Lincoln. It's not really even that huge

772
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 1: of a thing against Lincoln as much as it is

773
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:29,839
Speaker 1: about sort of a they just hadn't been able. They've

774
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:32,799
Speaker 1: been to the semifinals and all of that, but they

775
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:36,240
Speaker 1: hadn't They hadn't been able to get over the plus

776
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:39,879
Speaker 1: Fittibles has been at Clemson, where I know they are

777
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 1: coming off a bad season, but that's a juggernaut. I

778
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 1: worry about Lincoln the most out of all those folks.

779
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:49,759
Speaker 1: And you asked me just about the Big Twelve, but

780
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:53,800
Speaker 1: I just think I think you make a great point

781
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 1: that team or that program the conference's weakest, and I

782
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 1: do think that was an back of his mind. I

783
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 1: think I can go and win big there very quickly.

784
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 1: And I don't have I don't have Switzer, I don't

785
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 1: have Stoops, I don't have all these people hanging around. Um.

786
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 1: I just, oh, you know, you understand that. So here's

787
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 1: what I'm standing. I have a better feel for Oklahoma

788
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 1: than you do. I think you have a much better

789
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:25,920
Speaker 1: feel for USC than I do. I can tell you

790
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:29,280
Speaker 1: I know where Lincoln comes from. He's not that guy.

791
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:32,800
Speaker 1: He's not a southern California guy. He's not Pete Carroll.

792
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:36,960
Speaker 1: He's Muleshoe, Texas. Now. He's probably smart enough from an

793
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:40,360
Speaker 1: offensive standpoint to surround himself with all the right people.

794
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:46,719
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying he has not glitzy USC's that's

795
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:50,279
Speaker 1: not the way he's wired. So in some weird way,

796
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:57,279
Speaker 1: Venables is just as good a fit at OU as

797
00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 1: Lincoln was. And I think the OU people, by the way,

798
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:03,399
Speaker 1: they can't they hate Lincoln now, And that's okay. That's

799
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:05,960
Speaker 1: the way these things happen. I think it'll be exciting

800
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 1: to see it all play out. But I worry more

801
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:12,399
Speaker 1: about Lincoln than I do Venibles. It's the way I would. Yeah,

802
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I just I look at Venables and I

803
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:19,799
Speaker 1: think an average schedule could be Florida, Georgia, LSU I mean,

804
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 1: I mean literally, his sixth toughest game could be Auburn, right,

805
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:30,759
Speaker 1: whereas the toughest game for Lincoln Riley could very well

806
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 1: be Oregon and USC. I mean again, Clay Helton was

807
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 1: a disaster. He won bowl games, he won a Rose Bowl.

808
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 1: He couldn't coach. He got a job at Georgia State

809
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 1: Southern say yeah, and so it's I don't think you're incorrect.

810
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 1: And I just got into a discussion with a friend

811
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:55,240
Speaker 1: and he said one of these guys isn't work, gonna work?

812
00:49:55,840 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 1: And I said, God, Clay Helton for three years worked.

813
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:04,600
Speaker 1: How can he not work? Because the PAC twelve, for

814
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 1: whatever reason, and I think a lot of it is

815
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 1: there's two NFL teams in Los Angeles now, and that

816
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:15,000
Speaker 1: if USC isn't good, the conference is mediocre and it's

817
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:18,680
Speaker 1: a distracted market. The passion for USC is down, and frankly,

818
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:23,719
Speaker 1: when USC is down, the PAC twelve doesn't even feel

819
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 1: like a Power five conference. On certain saturdays, I just

820
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 1: think where Oklahoma is going is just this conveyor belt

821
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 1: of NFL athletes. Week after week. You can have a

822
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:42,360
Speaker 1: good team who's healthy by the end of an SEC season.

823
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:45,440
Speaker 1: I mean Alabama's beat up, George is beat up. It's

824
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 1: just so it's interesting. I like your perspective, you know.

825
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 1: I will say this about Lincoln Riley. I've met him now.

826
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:54,239
Speaker 1: He doesn't have a huge presence. I think he's kind

827
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:57,719
Speaker 1: of an intellectual, but he doesn't. He's not very sweat sor.

828
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:01,800
Speaker 1: He's not Jimmy Johnson, he's not Nick Saban, he's not hardball.

829
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 1: He doesn't have a smash through the TV set presence.

830
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 1: He's kind of soft spoken, almost shy. And that that's

831
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:12,840
Speaker 1: interesting because in college football, Crystal Ball presence, Mel Tucker presence,

832
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 1: Matt Brown presence, Bob Stoop's presence that matters in college football.

833
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 1: I don't think Lincoln is a broad shouldered, loud, hyper

834
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 1: aggressive alpha male. He's very low key to me. I

835
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:33,239
Speaker 1: think you're right, and I think there's there's a couple.

836
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 1: One of the things I would say is that that

837
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 1: Lsu thing with Kelly Man that's going to be fascinating

838
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:45,719
Speaker 1: because they've one big at different times, not for a

839
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:49,279
Speaker 1: long period of time, but with two weird guys. But

840
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 1: that fit that weirdness of Baton Rouge and so they're

841
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 1: bringing in an urban and it's a bad name time

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Speaker 1: to use here, But the guy was one of the

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Speaker 1: greatest college coaches of all time. They're bringing in a

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Speaker 1: total harda who doesn't fit the goofy kind of coach

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Speaker 1: that they've been used to. They eat the grass that

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Speaker 1: left was followed by the gumbo guy, you know that

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Speaker 1: coach O was And they're not ready for this in

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Speaker 1: a sense. Now, he may be great there because he

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Speaker 1: can coach. He just he Notre Dame. He would get

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Speaker 1: you to the dance, but once he got there, he

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Speaker 1: couldn't do anything with it. I don't know. May maybe

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Speaker 1: it's just because Alabama and Climpson are just that much

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Speaker 1: better than everybody I don't know, or o'hill sate, but

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Speaker 1: they couldn't compete that they got there, which I think

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Speaker 1: is admirable. I mean, I don't knock Aaron Rodgers for

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Speaker 1: people say, well, he loses all the time the NFC

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Speaker 1: title game. Do you know what the Cowboys fans would

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Speaker 1: do to get to an NFC title game after twenty

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Speaker 1: five years? Like if they even arrived at one Dak

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Speaker 1: Mike McCarty, they would all be made men. People say, oh,

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Speaker 1: Cowboys are measured by Super Bowls. No they're not. It's

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Speaker 1: been too long. Yeah they're not if they got to

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Speaker 1: an NFC title game. So I oh that. I'm glad

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Speaker 1: you took me down college football because I just I

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Speaker 1: do sit around and I kind of think of those things.

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Speaker 1: But here's the one thing other thing I'll at. I think, Oh,

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Speaker 1: you from a brand perspective, Yeah, this is what I

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Speaker 1: would offer is coming into that conference, and other than

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Speaker 1: Alabama and Georgia, who do you have ahead of that?

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about long time brands which you're into. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think it's Alabama. One in Oklahoma too. I think

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Speaker 1: Oklahoma's brand is amazing. I think it's a top six.

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Speaker 1: I think in the history of college football, Notre Dame, Alabama, Oklahoma,

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Speaker 1: Ohio State, Michigan, USC those are the brands. To me,

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Speaker 1: those are the big brands, those six. Oklahoma's brand is unbelievable. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Uh so, I just think by that very nature of

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Speaker 1: always feeling like we belong, they will belong. Whereas Texas

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Speaker 1: has a big brand, but the brand is more about man,

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Speaker 1: these would be great places to go. This would be fun.

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Speaker 1: Let's go. We I wonder what they'll be like an

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Speaker 1: old miss let's go, let's go see what that telegates like.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's that's the way. That's the way

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Speaker 1: they operate. Yeah, Texas doesn't give you the payoff enough.

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Speaker 1: They got a big brand, you don't get the payoff

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Speaker 1: wins enough. All Right, Mosley, I gotta get out of here.

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Speaker 1: This was very engaging. Really appreciated the Omicron talk. I

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Speaker 1: didn't think we'd go down that path, but you delivered

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Speaker 1: on that. Yeah, oh thanks, thanks. It's yours a study

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Speaker 1: and I was able to to do that. Yeah. Fauci

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Speaker 1: and Mosley. All right, Oh my bad. Fauci and Mosley

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Speaker 1: afternoons in Fort Worth. It's a very could could be big. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: trades are talking about it, all right, buddy, Okay, good night,

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Speaker 1: see m all right, Matt Mosley, Tom Curran, Omicron Talk,

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Speaker 1: Baker Talk, LA New York Talk. That was long for us,

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Speaker 1: but I loved every stinking minute of it. YouTube channel

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