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Speaker 1: Yeah, morning, everybody, Its stee j n V.

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Speaker 2: Charlamagne the God. We are to breakfast Club. We got

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Speaker 2: our co hosts Claudia Jordan joining us today, Yes, right,

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Speaker 2: and we got a special guest in the building, the

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Speaker 2: von Franklin.

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Speaker 3: Welcome, welcome back, thank you, it's good, glad to be back.

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Speaker 4: He came in hot, which is good because he's here

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Speaker 4: to talk about flaming hot. But I don't know what

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Speaker 4: you and Claudia were just talking about, y'all. I mean,

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Speaker 4: y'all just started an interview.

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Speaker 5: I hosted him this morning, and he put a post

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Speaker 5: up about not being someone's priority, like, no, one's too

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Speaker 5: busy for the right person. If you want to, you know,

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Speaker 5: keep in touch with that person, you'll make time.

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Speaker 6: Yes, So to say yeah, I mean that basically, I

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Speaker 6: was just saying that a lot of times, the excuse is, well,

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Speaker 6: I'm too busy, and.

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Speaker 3: I'm saying Michelle, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 6: I was just using the example that was there ever

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Speaker 6: a time during you know, Barack's presidency where he told Michelle,

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Speaker 6: you know what, I'm just too busy to deal with it.

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Speaker 6: I'm too busy to check in on the kids. You

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Speaker 6: can handle that. He probably didn't. It doesn't mean that

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Speaker 6: he wasn't busy and challenging, but because the family was

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Speaker 6: a priority, he prioritized him. So I'm saying every time

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Speaker 6: we say I'm too busy for something, we're just saying

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Speaker 6: that that whatever that's something is, or that someone is, they're.

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Speaker 3: Not a priority.

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Speaker 1: Now let me ask you a question. So Chloya's been

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Speaker 1: here the last couple of days.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there we go.

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Speaker 1: She's been having some relationship issues, right, okay, before.

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Speaker 4: I'm sure, I'm sure, aready.

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Speaker 7: It's a non relationship.

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Speaker 2: So you know, we open up the phone lines, let

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Speaker 2: people shoot their shots. It just feels like some of

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Speaker 2: the men that she's been dealing with, I haven't had

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Speaker 2: the time and the effort to.

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Speaker 1: Put into Claudia. You know, she talked about young men.

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Speaker 2: She said a lot of the young men, you know, owner,

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Speaker 2: but she feels like the young men just want to smash.

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Speaker 7: They do, and the old men.

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Speaker 1: And what advice could you give.

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Speaker 3: Our sister, Claudia and Jordan, tell me what you're looking for?

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Speaker 3: Sona doesn't lie.

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Speaker 5: When I was younger, the checklist was really long, and

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Speaker 5: I'm looking for integrity. So Ona doesn't lie so much.

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Speaker 5: A person of that word that seems to be really

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Speaker 5: hard to find nowadays, and they always coming hot with me.

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Speaker 3: It's always, oh, it's too good to be true.

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Speaker 5: I want to get married, and then the reality of it,

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Speaker 5: they can't sustain the day to day calling back when

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Speaker 5: they say or whatever. So I guess I'm no one's

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Speaker 5: prayers the other day.

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Speaker 2: Like the other day, somebody here at ten pm and

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Speaker 2: was like, hey, what you're doing, big head? And then

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Speaker 2: she was like whatever, and she was like what you're wearing?

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Speaker 5: Like it was no, it felt very sexual, felt like

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Speaker 5: that's it, which we're gonna get to that if I

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Speaker 5: like you when I get there, relax, but don't leave

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Speaker 6: I mean, one adjustment might be, instead of having like

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Speaker 6: a what you're looking for, what you're ready to receive,

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Speaker 6: because the looking is is it enhances the absence of it.

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Speaker 6: Whereas when I'm ready to receive, I'm ready to allow

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Speaker 6: what is coming into my life. And I know that

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Speaker 6: sounds like a small thing, but it's a major thing

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Speaker 6: because people can feel that looking spirit. Again, not saying

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Speaker 6: you have that, I'm saying, but a lot of times

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Speaker 6: you're out there looking for love, people can feel that

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Speaker 6: they're like, ugh, you know, versus like, I'm gonna stand

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Speaker 6: in my power, I'm gonna stand my truth, and I'm

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Speaker 6: ready to receive the right person.

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Speaker 5: I'm actually really doing that though in my life because

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Speaker 5: after my last breakup, I said, I'm giving myself six

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Speaker 5: months now, I'm not even considering anyone for that. Like

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Speaker 5: I have to just like have space, yeah, and let

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Speaker 5: agree with it does give desperate vibes, right right, you

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Speaker 5: are kind of low key in a churchway.

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Speaker 7: No no, no, no, say that the words that came

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Speaker 1: But then let me ask you another question. Since we

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Speaker 2: Was having a thing where you know, she was very glarious,

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Speaker 2: you know, having a tough time and was kind of depressed.

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Speaker 2: How long do you allow your partner or somebody to

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Speaker 6: Well, I think, first and foremost it's like if somebody

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Speaker 6: is going through something, only they can get through what

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Speaker 6: put on we take the role of like I've got

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Speaker 6: a support system. How can I support you through this?

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Speaker 6: What is it that you need to from me in

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Speaker 6: them to go through it. Because what I've experienced is

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Speaker 6: that when you try to heal somebody or you try

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Speaker 6: to do their work for them, you put yourself in

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Speaker 6: an impossible situation because at the end of the day,

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Speaker 6: that's their journey, that's what they have to experience in

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Speaker 6: life for their own growth and their development. And sometimes

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Speaker 6: as a partner, we unnecessarily make it feel like, well,

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Speaker 6: that's what they're going to through.

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Speaker 3: I got to go through it too.

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Speaker 6: No, that's what they're going through, and I can be

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Speaker 6: there to help them, but they need to set the

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Speaker 3: What that helps look looks like.

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Speaker 4: Oh, that's good, we're gonna get to flame hot, but

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Speaker 4: I need to stay on that for a second, because

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Speaker 4: there's so many people dealing with grief. Yeah, and I

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Speaker 4: and you know, something happens like death, is we have

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Speaker 4: There's nothing you can do. So I think enough people

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Speaker 4: don't know how to show up right and just be

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Speaker 6: You know, in my experience, it's about grace and space.

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Speaker 6: And so if I give my own self grace and

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Speaker 6: that grief process, it's like, Okay, we all go through

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Speaker 6: And the best friendships, the best familyships, the best relationships

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Speaker 6: don't require the person to arbitrarily have a timeline by

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Speaker 6: which they pass through whatever they're going through. I mean,

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Speaker 6: with these traumas that we've experienced in life are difficult,

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Speaker 6: and for some of us they take years to heal.

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Speaker 6: So to me, the best way to do that is

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Speaker 6: to first give yourself space and grace for your journey

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Speaker 6: on life. And the second thing is to give that

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Speaker 6: to whomever you're dealing with. Don't you know, push them

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Speaker 6: or pressure them to have to move through something. If

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Speaker 6: they need to cry, be there, hey, I'm here, you know,

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Speaker 6: if they need to yell, hey, yell as low as

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Speaker 6: you want to yell, I'm with you.

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Speaker 3: That to me is how you do it.

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Speaker 5: That's great advice because if you don't have the right

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Speaker 5: tools and you're constantly trying to like help someone heal

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Speaker 5: to res see that, you stop feeling rejected and then resentful,

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Speaker 5: you know what I mean, Like I'm over here trying

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Speaker 7: Being there for you.

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Speaker 6: But then that's where the ego comes in. Yes, the

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Speaker 6: ego wants to be the savior, right and then and

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Speaker 6: then if this person is not receiving the way that

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Speaker 6: I'm trying to bring them salvation from their situation, then

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Speaker 6: I get offended. But then who are we to impose

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Speaker 6: our way on their process, versus.

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Speaker 3: Saying, hey, I'm here.

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Speaker 6: They didn't want to talk to me today, it's not

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Speaker 6: And I'm going to be a good support system for

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Speaker 6: they maybe your help is your silence. Maybe that's your

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Speaker 6: way you help, you know. So it's like taking the

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Speaker 5: I was gonna say that was another church way to

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Speaker 2: I was gonna say, do you feel any pressure with

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Speaker 3: No, well, I think people listen. The beautiful thing about

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Speaker 3: what I what I do is I'm referred to it

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Speaker 7: You know.

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Speaker 6: It's like I was on Marriati first side as a

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Speaker 6: I've written relationship books. You know, I'm known as a producer,

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Speaker 6: I'm known as many different things. But to your question, no,

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Speaker 6: do it perfectly. I mean, you know, clearly you know

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Speaker 6: that that has not been my experience. And that's okay, right,

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Speaker 6: it's okay. I'd rather teach from a place of truth

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Speaker 6: and what I've gone through than to feel the the

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Speaker 6: all perfectly. Who does it perfectly?

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Speaker 2: And I was going to ask, you know, in the church,

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Speaker 2: especially to church, people feel like in all relationship people

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Speaker 2: should stay together regardless, right, even if things aren't working,

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Speaker 2: stay together.

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Speaker 1: People always say, you know, people are so fast to

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Speaker 1: let things go. When do you know it's a time

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Speaker 1: the right time to let things go?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, I think it depends on every situation.

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Speaker 6: Every relationship is very different. I would encourage anyone to

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Speaker 6: put themselves in a process. And what I mean by

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Speaker 6: that is the first inkling that you get that oh

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Speaker 6: I want to let this go. Don't follow that England right,

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Speaker 6: do what you can do, therapy, life, coaching, counseling, reading,

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Speaker 6: you have to stay in touch with your spelf, yourself

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Speaker 6: and your spirit and how do you feel? You know,

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Speaker 6: and as you're going through this, you know, is there

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Speaker 4: A moment, do you regret writing a book like The

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Speaker 3: Sure, do you regret that?

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Speaker 8: Course, listen, Okay, okay, give me the name of your

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Speaker 5: But think that's crazy about breakups with your best friend.

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Speaker 4: I wanted to get to flame and hot before all

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Speaker 6: I didn't know how I was going to do it,

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 2: But you're saying that this guy got the accolades, he

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Speaker 3: Don't hear that. I mean, think about it. He was

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Speaker 6: But the thing about superhero movies is you can't put

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Speaker 3: But you can't do it.

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Speaker 4: How did this movie tie into your faith? Because it's

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Speaker 7: In the film.

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Speaker 6: I mean, well first and forebos, you know, just on

441
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Speaker 6: a macro level. You know, my father died when I

442
00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:46,600
Speaker 6: was nine years old of a heart attack when he

443
00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:49,560
Speaker 6: was thirty six, and it was a combination of my

444
00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:51,560
Speaker 6: mom didn't have money for therapy, so it was a

445
00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:54,760
Speaker 6: combination of going to church and watching entertainment that became

446
00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:57,960
Speaker 6: my therapy. And as I navigated movies like you know,

447
00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:00,200
Speaker 6: Color Purple and Back to the Future and Rock, I

448
00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:02,960
Speaker 6: was like, listen, if these movies aren't inspiring me, I

449
00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:05,359
Speaker 6: want to go to Hollywood and produce movies that can

450
00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:08,720
Speaker 6: inspire others. So just the mere fact that here I

451
00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:12,600
Speaker 6: am in Hollywood, you know, producing inspiration of movies. That's

452
00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:14,760
Speaker 6: a testament to my faith. Just the fact that the

453
00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:16,960
Speaker 6: movie happened, and what I intended to do when I

454
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Speaker 6: came to Hollywood, you know, twenty seven years ago, I'm

455
00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:22,800
Speaker 6: currently doing. And then when you see the movie, Richard

456
00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:25,480
Speaker 6: goes to a journey of faith, you know, and which

457
00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:27,680
Speaker 6: is very similar to his real journey of faith where

458
00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:29,920
Speaker 6: he starts as a you know, non believer, doesn't see

459
00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:31,960
Speaker 6: the value in it, and then by the end he

460
00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:33,840
Speaker 6: understands the value of prayer and what it means to

461
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Speaker 6: have a relationship with God. So it's there, but it's

462
00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:38,480
Speaker 6: not something that we lead with. We just let people

463
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Speaker 6: discover when they see the film.

464
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Speaker 4: Being a film and TV producer, but also being de

465
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Speaker 4: von Franklin, you know, the spiritual leader, do people feel like,

466
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Speaker 4: you know, I'm not even gonna bring this project to

467
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Speaker 4: him because this may not be his speed?

468
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Speaker 6: Sure, you know what I mean, you know, it's not.

469
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Speaker 6: Before becoming a producer, I was an executive for Columbia Pictures,

470
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Speaker 6: which is a division of Sony Pictures for ten years,

471
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Speaker 6: and a lot of times people would not bring me

472
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Speaker 6: things if they weren't if they thought, oh, well, you know,

473
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Speaker 6: he's the black executive or he's the Christian executive, and

474
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Speaker 6: I'm not going to bring him something that isn't black

475
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Speaker 6: or Christian.

476
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Speaker 3: And so for me, I'm like, it's cool. You know

477
00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:10,960
Speaker 3: what what people bring me is what they bring me.

478
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Speaker 6: But at the end of the day, I'm about creating

479
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Speaker 6: my own you know, even as an executive, I created

480
00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:16,760
Speaker 6: my own films. I mean films, you know, like Jumping

481
00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:19,360
Speaker 6: the Broom and Heaven Is for Real. I mean those

482
00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:22,080
Speaker 6: are movies that I champion and put together on my own.

483
00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:24,200
Speaker 6: So even with Flame and Hot, I met Richard in

484
00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:25,680
Speaker 6: a meeting and I told him I was going to

485
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Speaker 6: do his movie. So you know, I found a writer,

486
00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:30,280
Speaker 6: I sold it to a studio, I developed the script,

487
00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:32,800
Speaker 6: I hired even Longoria to direct it. I produced the

488
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Speaker 6: film and now out marketing the film. So you know,

489
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Speaker 6: on some level, there are people that will make a

490
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Speaker 6: judgment about who I am, and that's okay. My thing

491
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Speaker 6: is I'm not going to rest on their judgment. I'm

492
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Speaker 6: going to create my own opportunities.

493
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Speaker 5: So you know, you're not against movies that come to

494
00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:47,360
Speaker 5: that don't have anything to do with fake No, of course,

495
00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:49,720
Speaker 5: not not at all. So someone camedy Field like a

496
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Speaker 5: movie that's like totally off brand, You're okay with that.

497
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Speaker 6: Well, you know, off brand just depends on if I

498
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Speaker 6: connect to it. So if I connect to it, it's

499
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Speaker 6: not off brand.

500
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Speaker 5: But you're not doing like the Human Center p.

501
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Speaker 3: Part four.

502
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Speaker 7: You know, I don't think so, but you never know.

503
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Speaker 3: If there's something inspirational, it's terrible.

504
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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, I hasn't been since the strike, you know.

505
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Speaker 6: What the strike, everything's been kind of very calm, you know.

506
00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:13,920
Speaker 6: I mean, it's kind of like one of those things

507
00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:16,880
Speaker 6: where it's like the whole industry is navigating and waiting

508
00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:19,159
Speaker 6: to see how it works out. So all we can

509
00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:21,960
Speaker 6: do is just wait, you know. The DGA just you know, signed,

510
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Speaker 6: and I think they're going to start. The studios are

511
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Speaker 6: going to negotiate and negotiate with SAG, and then my

512
00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:27,840
Speaker 6: hope is that you know, the writers get what they're

513
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Speaker 6: asking for, and that you know, cooler heads prevail and

514
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Speaker 6: we can all get back to the business of making entertainment.

515
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Speaker 3: Though sit again.

516
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Speaker 6: Yeah, Well, that's just more of like giving the board

517
00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:42,359
Speaker 6: the authorization to go to strike if a strike is necessary.

518
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Speaker 6: It doesn't mean that they're actually going to show.

519
00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:46,240
Speaker 5: Last time, I did so much damage to Los Angeles

520
00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:48,560
Speaker 5: in the industry. Yeah, a lot of people, like outside

521
00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:51,000
Speaker 5: of the acting world, the vendors and everybody else, a

522
00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:53,879
Speaker 5: lot of people were damaged financially from the strike.

523
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Speaker 3: Yeah. No, I mean, this is this is a fact.

524
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Speaker 3: I mean, and the longer it goes, the greater potential

525
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Speaker 3: for that. Uh true.

526
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Speaker 6: So my hope in prayer is that ultimately gets resolved

527
00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:04,880
Speaker 6: and everybody feels like they got what they needed out

528
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Speaker 6: of it.

529
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Speaker 5: It's got to be done, though. Yeah, a lot of

530
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Speaker 5: things that have changed with streaming and everything in the industry.

531
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Speaker 5: A lot of people are not getting the money they together.

532
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, And what's your thought on chat, GPT and everybody

533
00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:16,360
Speaker 2: using that to create scripts and to do so many

534
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Speaker 2: different things.

535
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Speaker 6: You know, It's it's one of those areas that I'm

536
00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:22,440
Speaker 6: still learning about in terms of understanding, you know, the

537
00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:25,840
Speaker 6: ethics and how writers perceive it and understanding that you know,

538
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Speaker 6: from what I've been from what I the writers I've

539
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Speaker 6: talked to, They're like, well, chat GPT can't create on

540
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Speaker 6: its own. It's going to you know, survey what's already

541
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Speaker 6: been created to then create, and I think that's where

542
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Speaker 6: the issue comes in. So I think it's something that

543
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Speaker 6: we've got to look at. We need to first of

544
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Speaker 6: all be educated on it, but look at it, because

545
00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:45,600
Speaker 6: you know, that would be very detrimental, you know, to

546
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Speaker 6: writers who have spent their life, you know, creating, and

547
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Speaker 6: then to have a technology that uses their creation to create,

548
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Speaker 6: but then they aren't compensated for that.

549
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Speaker 4: I think it's the double I don't think it's of

550
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Speaker 4: God at all.

551
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Speaker 3: Is that right.

552
00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:59,320
Speaker 4: That's what I've been saying. I just don't. I just don't.

553
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Speaker 4: I think it's gonna cause more harm than good. And

554
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Speaker 4: I think forget you know, writing scripts and stuff. What

555
00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:07,840
Speaker 4: if you know, somebody lets you hear a phone call

556
00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:11,320
Speaker 4: of somebody that you love talking crazy about you, and

557
00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:13,399
Speaker 4: you know it's them and another person that you know,

558
00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:17,440
Speaker 4: and you walk in the room five minutes after hearing.

559
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Speaker 3: That call, right right, right, right, right, Yeah, that's a scenario.

560
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Speaker 4: Even what if a world leader you know, threatens another

561
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Speaker 4: world leader via AI and it's not even real by

562
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Speaker 4: the time these world leaders figure out.

563
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Speaker 1: You know that's not already since it might be on.

564
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Speaker 7: We don't know, is what I'm saying.

565
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Speaker 5: I don't we have enough confusion right now.

566
00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:38,680
Speaker 4: Absolutely.

567
00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:40,440
Speaker 5: The thing is, no one knows what's real or fake

568
00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:42,520
Speaker 5: anymore across the board in all areas.

569
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Speaker 4: It's going to be literate entering the chat. It's going

570
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Speaker 4: to obliterate the lines of reality and fantasy. Right now

571
00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:48,280
Speaker 4: they're blurred.

572
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Speaker 5: This is going to obliterate it and lose jobs and

573
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Speaker 5: cost a lot of jobs.

574
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Speaker 4: Man, what was your experience with flaming hot Cheetos before

575
00:22:57,359 --> 00:22:58,440
Speaker 4: this movie? Did you like them?

576
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Speaker 3: I literally had no experience with them. I knew of them,

577
00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:02,320
Speaker 3: but I never had one.

578
00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:02,600
Speaker 4: No.

579
00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:04,920
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I mean, now I've had too many

580
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Speaker 3: then I want to I want to share.

581
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Speaker 6: I mean, but like I, once I heard his story

582
00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:10,520
Speaker 6: and once we actually set up the pitch, I mean,

583
00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:13,960
Speaker 6: sold the pitch to Searchlight, I was like, yo, I

584
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:15,639
Speaker 6: gotta get these, I gotta try them. And so as

585
00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:17,080
Speaker 6: I tried them, I was like, oh, I get it now,

586
00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:18,200
Speaker 6: They're they're pretty amazing.

587
00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:19,440
Speaker 4: And you were saying that as you was on the

588
00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:26,639
Speaker 4: toilet as an adult, you're not supposed to be eat.

589
00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:27,560
Speaker 3: I know, but man, listen.

590
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Speaker 6: When we made the movie, there was like we had

591
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Speaker 6: to recreate the frido Let factory, and so we shot

592
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Speaker 6: the film in Albuquerque, New Mexico, and uh and so

593
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Speaker 6: I'll never forget. We were on set the first day

594
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Speaker 6: that we were shooting the scene with the Cheetos coming out,

595
00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:41,080
Speaker 6: flaming Cheto's coming out of the factory. And there I

596
00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:42,879
Speaker 6: am behind the camera, you know, eating the Cheetos, and

597
00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:44,959
Speaker 6: I said, this is crazy, but they're I mean, they

598
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,240
Speaker 6: are addictive, and so I just had to stop. I said,

599
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Speaker 6: you know what, I love this product. I'm gonna eat

600
00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:51,359
Speaker 6: it once in a while, but I'm going to stop.

601
00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:54,200
Speaker 6: But I do hope that families when they streamed the film,

602
00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,080
Speaker 6: because this is the first movie in the history of

603
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Speaker 6: Disney that is going to be on Hulu and Disney

604
00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,159
Speaker 6: Plus at the same time. It's the first movie that

605
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:04,680
Speaker 6: they've put on both platforms. So I'm hoping that families

606
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:07,719
Speaker 6: will be eating flaming a Cheetos and Dorito's and all

607
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:09,840
Speaker 6: the popcorn and all that while they watched the movie,

608
00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:12,080
Speaker 6: because I think, you know, it just kind of makes

609
00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:13,040
Speaker 6: the experience that much better.

610
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Speaker 2: And how was Pepsi and Freedo lay where they involved

611
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Speaker 2: with the process, so they cool with everything.

612
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Speaker 6: You know, I wouldn't say they were involved, but you

613
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,080
Speaker 6: know we definitely have you know, kept the lines of

614
00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:23,879
Speaker 6: communication open, and you know they've seen the movie and

615
00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:25,960
Speaker 6: you know, are supportive of the film. So you know,

616
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:29,560
Speaker 6: it's been a good relationship that I've been been navigating

617
00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:31,680
Speaker 6: for years now, probably about four or five years.

618
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Speaker 4: Why I give them all that free product plicement, I mean,

619
00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:35,160
Speaker 4: is it a lot of free product placemen?

620
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Speaker 6: Well, and in theory, I mean, you know this is

621
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,880
Speaker 6: you know, definitely going to I would believe, get people

622
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:43,359
Speaker 6: to want to, you know, use the product. But it

623
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:46,040
Speaker 6: wasn't so much about free product placement. It was about telling.

624
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Speaker 3: Richard's story, you know.

625
00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 6: And because Richard's story was so amazing and inspirational and motivational.

626
00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:55,959
Speaker 6: If the cost of doing Richard's story was a promotion

627
00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:58,399
Speaker 6: for Cheetoh's and Pepsi Code and so bit, because his

628
00:24:58,480 --> 00:24:59,920
Speaker 6: story was certainly worth being told.

629
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,320
Speaker 4: Why, Eva Longoria Man.

630
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Speaker 6: Because Eva, you know, this is the testament when you

631
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 6: talk about faith. So I had the script and I

632
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 6: was looking for a director. I sent the script out

633
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,840
Speaker 6: to twenty directors twelve directors came in to me, the

634
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 6: most directors I've ever had on any project I've done,

635
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,359
Speaker 6: even when I was an executive and I did not

636
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:19,399
Speaker 6: know Eva. I got the call from her agent, and

637
00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 6: her agent said, hey, you know, I know you're looking

638
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,280
Speaker 6: for a director on Flaming Hot. I want you to

639
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,640
Speaker 6: meet Eva Longoria. And I was like, well, what part

640
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:28,000
Speaker 6: does she want to play? And She's like, no, no,

641
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:29,520
Speaker 6: she doesn't want to be in the movie. She wants

642
00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:31,600
Speaker 6: to direct the movie. And I'm like, okay, well has

643
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:33,879
Speaker 6: she directed a movie before, and then she was like, well, no,

644
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,760
Speaker 6: she hasn't directed a movie, but she directed television. I said, well, look,

645
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:38,000
Speaker 6: I'm not going to pass up a chance to meet

646
00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:40,000
Speaker 6: Evia Longoria, so yeah, have her come in. So I

647
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 6: didn't have any expectations. So Eva walks in, you know,

648
00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 6: she's wearing her glasses, and she has a script in

649
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,680
Speaker 6: a binder and almost every page of the script is

650
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:51,119
Speaker 6: dog here. And for about two hours she starts telling me,

651
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:53,720
Speaker 6: you know, how she's how she would want to fix

652
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:55,040
Speaker 6: the movie and what she would want to do to

653
00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,040
Speaker 6: elevate it to make it more authentic. I didn't even

654
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Speaker 6: know at the time until then that she has a

655
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 6: master's in Chicano studies and her confidence in her clarity

656
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 6: of what she wanted to do in her vision. When

657
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:09,399
Speaker 6: we finished the meeting, I said, the director just showed up.

658
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:11,680
Speaker 6: And then I called the studio and I said, look,

659
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 6: I found our director. And they said who, I said,

660
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:16,280
Speaker 6: Eva Longoria. They were like, well, has she directed a movie?

661
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:19,080
Speaker 6: I said no, I said, but just because she hasn't

662
00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:20,399
Speaker 6: directed a movie does not mean she's.

663
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:20,840
Speaker 3: Not the director.

664
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Speaker 6: Because even didn't come in in the room to meet

665
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:27,439
Speaker 6: with me asking for a job, she operated as if

666
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:29,800
Speaker 6: she had the job. And so I said, great, this

667
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,000
Speaker 6: is our director. And I said to the studio, I said, listen,

668
00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 6: I'm going to bring her in. I'll bring you some

669
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,280
Speaker 6: other options, but I'm telling you she's the director. And

670
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,159
Speaker 6: Eva put together this brilliant, you know, presentation about what

671
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 6: she wanted to do with the film, and we took

672
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 6: her in. I took her into the studio and they

673
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:44,720
Speaker 6: and she blew them away and they agreed. They said

674
00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:47,200
Speaker 6: she's the director and everything that she said she wanted

675
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 6: to do from that first meeting, that director presentation is

676
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,639
Speaker 6: everything that she did. And I think so often, you know,

677
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:57,200
Speaker 6: especially in Hollywood, opportunity is not distributed equally, and the

678
00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:00,359
Speaker 6: movie covers that. And so the idea that we would

679
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:03,399
Speaker 6: hold hold against her, if I held it against her

680
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 6: or the business held it against it, she had directed

681
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,719
Speaker 6: a movie, we wouldn't have a great film, versus saying, well,

682
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 6: just because you haven't done it doesn't mean you can't

683
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:11,879
Speaker 6: do it, and let's put some process around you if

684
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 6: you have the vision and the tenacity and the confidence

685
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 6: to do it. So this movie shows you know that

686
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,159
Speaker 6: not only is she a brilliant director, but all of us,

687
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 6: when given the right opportunity, can do more with it

688
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 6: than others things.

689
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,359
Speaker 5: Well, that's parallel with Richard's story, right, very much, so

690
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 5: exactly exactly amazing.

691
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 4: How much is her being evil Longoria helped though, because

692
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:32,399
Speaker 4: if a director comes in there with that same energy,

693
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 4: you know, that same ambition, but she's not evil Longoria,

694
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,159
Speaker 4: you can still look at her the same or him.

695
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 3: I think absolutely.

696
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 6: I always make the decision about who's who the director

697
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 6: is based upon the process, you know. I mean this

698
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,399
Speaker 6: is something you know, I basically learned how to make

699
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,200
Speaker 6: movies in part by working with Will Smith. And you know,

700
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:51,879
Speaker 6: he's been a mentor and a fan for years, and

701
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 6: a lot of the movie making process and the story

702
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:56,720
Speaker 6: making process and just committing to the process I learned

703
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:58,200
Speaker 6: from him, right. His thing is like, look, if you

704
00:27:58,240 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 6: commit to the process, the process will lead you to

705
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,119
Speaker 6: six says. And so when it comes to a director

706
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 6: on all the films that I've made, I do that

707
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:06,880
Speaker 6: and I don't. I don't say oh just because because

708
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:08,199
Speaker 6: see if I if I were to to say oh,

709
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:12,200
Speaker 6: because it's Eva Longoria, then that's gonna mean filling the blank.

710
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 6: Then I could do the story of disservice in the

711
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 6: movie A Disservice. So for me, I commit to the process.

712
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 6: If another director showed up and that's who they were,

713
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,400
Speaker 6: and the process revealed that that was the director, that's

714
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,159
Speaker 6: the director. So for me, it just wasn't added value

715
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 6: that she happened to be Eva Longoria in that you know,

716
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:31,920
Speaker 6: she's a global superstar and you know a beauty icon

717
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 6: and all of those things were just added value, But

718
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 6: they weren't the reason the decision was made.

719
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 5: Was that abnormal for a director or potential director to

720
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 5: come in with all those pages marked like that? Was

721
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 5: that impressive?

722
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 6: Was that the part that it was it was impressive.

723
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 6: I was like, I was impressed and I was depressed

724
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 6: at the same time. Right, I'm like, wait a minute, yes,

725
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 6: at that time, I've been working on the script for years,

726
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 6: and so you know, she comes in.

727
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 3: It's like, well this, this could be different, and this

728
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 3: could be changing, and so on one level, I was like, man,

729
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 3: but she was right. But she was right, she was right,

730
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:01,239
Speaker 3: she was right.

731
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 6: I can't I cannot knock either. And working with her

732
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 6: has been amazing, I mean, just awesome.

733
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 4: Have you done your passion project yet? What is your

734
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 4: fashion project?

735
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 6: If you haven't, you know, this is I mean, I

736
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 6: would say all of the movies that I've done so

737
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 6: far have been, you know, passion projects, because there's so

738
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 6: much passion required that not only sell a film, but

739
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 6: to get a film made. Every film that gets made

740
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 6: in Hollywood is a miracle and if me as a producer,

741
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 6: if I'm not passionate, it cannot happen. So, you know,

742
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 6: I would say the Flaming Hot is probably, you know,

743
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 6: the so far, you know, the greatest example of my

744
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 6: passion because I'm so passionate about using entertainment to uplift

745
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 6: and inspire people and having a movie like this allows

746
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 6: for that to happen, you know, But I don't know

747
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 6: if I've made my quote unquote, you know, signature passion

748
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 6: film yet.

749
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 3: You know, you know, i'd listen.

750
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 6: I'm a huge Muhammad Ali fan, you know, and I

751
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 6: would love to find a way into his story and

752
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:54,960
Speaker 6: do a movie on his life. And what that would

753
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 6: look like I don't know yet, but that's definitely something

754
00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 6: when I think of the type of films I would

755
00:29:59,280 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 6: like to do.

756
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 4: Uh.

757
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:02,400
Speaker 6: You know, He's just a figure that always resonates with

758
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 6: me and someone I continue to draw inspiration from, and

759
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 6: so to do a movie on his life would be amazing.

760
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 1: It So when is the movie? When can people see

761
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 1: this movie?

762
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 3: June ninth, ju Knife.

763
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 1: It's available BT Plus and Amazon Prime.

764
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 2: Right no, no, no, this is on Disney Plus and

765
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 2: Hulu Disney Plus yeah, yeah, yeah Plus and Hulu BT Plus.

766
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 6: I have a yeah, I have a couple of projects

767
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 6: with them. My next season two of Kingdom Business, which

768
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 6: is the show I executive produced with Kirk Franklin and

769
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:29,960
Speaker 6: doctor Holly Carter, will be on BT plus end of

770
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 6: this year. And then I'm actually acting in a film

771
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 6: uh that will be on b ET and I think

772
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 6: BT plus by the end of this year.

773
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 4: All right, are you going to write about everything that

774
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 4: you've been through your divorce and everything else? Like, isn't

775
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 4: that a story you're still processing?

776
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 6: You know, I would say it's I'm still processing it.

777
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 6: You know, I don't know that I would ever do

778
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 6: a book on divorce.

779
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 4: You know.

780
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 6: The next book I'm working on is called One of One,

781
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 6: which is the Truth about being single and uh. And

782
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 6: the idea you know behind that book is that we're

783
00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 6: all single. Some may be in a couple, some may

784
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 6: not be, but so often you if I don't know

785
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 6: how to a couple is made up of two good singles,

786
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 6: and the couple is only as strong as the singles

787
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 6: that make it up. And if I don't know how

788
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 6: to be one with myself, how can I learn to

789
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 6: be one with another?

790
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 4: And so.

791
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 6: The book is about, you know, there's nothing wrong with

792
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 6: being single. You got to get rid of the stigma

793
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 6: because even when you're with someone, you're still single and

794
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 6: you're still an individual.

795
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 5: You seem like such a good human. I have so

796
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 5: much work to do in myself when I need her.

797
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 7: I don't say that again. We all got work.

798
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 4: No what he said is we don't talk about that

799
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 4: enough because it's always just pressure. Be a union, be

800
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 4: a union. When you get married, you have to be one.

801
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 6: But here's again, if I don't, if I have not

802
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 6: been practicing being one with myself, if I have not

803
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 6: been practicing being loving with myself, if I have not

804
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 6: been practicing giving myself grace and space, it's very hard

805
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 6: for me to be loving with another. It's very hard

806
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 6: for me to give that person grace and space. It's

807
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 6: very hard for me to let them be who they

808
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 6: are if I don't give myself the freedom to be

809
00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 6: who I am. So this idea of being one of

810
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 6: one is to say I am one of one, I

811
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 6: am valued, I'm worthy. I need to get to know

812
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 6: who I am and give the process of discovery the

813
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 6: same process I would give in a relationship, because in

814
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:13,719
Speaker 6: my experience, so often when people are traditionally single, they

815
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 6: squander that period of time looking for somebody, and they

816
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 6: falsely believe if I'm in a relationship, my life will

817
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 6: be better. If I'm in a relationship, I'll be happier.

818
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 6: But if you are not happy without someone, I guarantee

819
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 6: you you won't be happy with someone because the practice

820
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 6: of happiness has to be self created. People can enhance

821
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 6: our happiness, they can make a contribution, but we have

822
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 6: to be the creators of it. And I think so

823
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 6: often in relationships one of the reasons why they don't

824
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 6: work is because we overburn the relationship. We want the

825
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 6: relationship to do something it was never designed to do,

826
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 6: which is to do something for us that we don't

827
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 6: do for ourselves. And so whenever win a relationship, let's

828
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 6: say I'm not being loving, or let's just say my

829
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 6: happiness is dependent on my partner. Even though they consciously

830
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 6: may not be aware of it, subconsciously they know it

831
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 6: and they reject it like no, no, I'm not your source.

832
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 6: I can't be your source. God can only be your source.

833
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 6: Because the day that I make you happy, the next

834
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 6: day I'm gonna make you mad. So if I allow

835
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 6: someone the power to control my happiness, not only will

836
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 6: I be manipulated, but I actually will never be happy.

837
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 6: So this book one of one is really about unpacking

838
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 6: what does it mean to be happy? What does it

839
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 6: mean to you know, understand your value? And then how

840
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 6: can you apply that to love, relationships, career, so on

841
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 6: and so forth.

842
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 3: Because at the.

843
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 6: End of the day, we're all single, right coming to

844
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 6: this earth single, We're gonna die single. If I want

845
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 6: to be in a great couple, there's nothing wrong with it.

846
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 6: But let me be a great single.

847
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 4: Claud you know you you talking about how commedy is.

848
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 4: That's one of the reasons why. Because when you start

849
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 4: going to therapy and you start doing the work on yourself, yes, sir,

850
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 4: you realize whatever anybody else got going on on that

851
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 4: nothing to do with you.

852
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 3: That's right, just projection, that's it, you know what I mean. Absolutely,

853
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 3: it sounds.

854
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 5: A complete yourself instead of looking for the relationship to

855
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 5: complete your life.

856
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 6: Well, that's a myth, and that's what people are so depressed,

857
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 6: this idea of like, oh you complete me.

858
00:33:57,760 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 1: No, that's the thing actually it is.

859
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 3: It's like, no, I don't want to complete you because

860
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 3: I don't even know. I can't do that. I don't

861
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 3: have the power to complete you. Only God and you

862
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 3: can do that work.

863
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 6: And so the idea is that if you have two

864
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 6: people that know how to be one with each other

865
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:13,719
Speaker 6: and then they come together, the process of becoming one.

866
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 6: Doesn't mean it won't be difficult, but it will be

867
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 6: that much easier because they understand what that means. And

868
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 6: so for me, I really want to empower more individuals,

869
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:25,799
Speaker 6: specifically those that identify as being traditionally single, to own

870
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:26,799
Speaker 6: this period of time.

871
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 3: There's nothing wrong with you. Don't squander it looking for someone,

872
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 3: look for yourself, find yourself.

873
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,880
Speaker 6: And if you never get into a relationship, that's not

874
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 6: an indictment that something's wrong with you at all. A

875
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 6: relationship status has nothing to do with whether you're lovable

876
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:44,279
Speaker 6: or not. Love yourself and let that be enough. And

877
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 6: so this book is about that. And then if you

878
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 6: are in a relationship, I think this book will enhance

879
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,759
Speaker 6: you know, being in a relationship because in a relationship

880
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 6: we try to rob somebody of their individuality at times,

881
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 6: and a great relationship will preserve individuality, not take it

882
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 6: that would happen in your marriage. No, I wouldn't say that.

883
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 6: I wouldn't say that.

884
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:04,279
Speaker 4: Did you learn this after the fact?

885
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 6: I would say that everything that I write about is

886
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 6: a culmination of what I've learned in life, not specific

887
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:13,239
Speaker 6: to one experience, but all the experiences. And so for me,

888
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 6: you know, being able to talk about this book, you

889
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 6: know and have this concept of the book.

890
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:18,360
Speaker 3: It was ironic.

891
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:21,360
Speaker 6: It was like becoming traditionally single again then taught me

892
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:24,320
Speaker 6: what it means to be single and the importance of

893
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 6: recognizing that we're single, even if we're in a relationship

894
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:29,880
Speaker 6: or we're married, means that I have to cultivate that

895
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 6: individuality and then bring that individuality to whomever I'm with,

896
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,719
Speaker 6: whomever I partner with. And that's not something I learned

897
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:37,799
Speaker 6: exclusively from the marriage. That's just something I've learned from

898
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:38,360
Speaker 6: life experience.

899
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 1: Would you get married again?

900
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 3: Absolutely?

901
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,760
Speaker 4: One thing I love about the new faith leaders like yourself,

902
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 4: say Roberts, you know, Tory Roberts. Yeah, y'all aren't y'all

903
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 4: don't act perfect? No, you know, And that's why I

904
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 4: love the bishop too.

905
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 3: No, not at all.

906
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 4: It's perfect. Do you think that is something that like,

907
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 4: you know, hurt the church coming up, you know, and

908
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 4: why people probably screw away from religion at one point,

909
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:02,479
Speaker 4: because I feel like a lot of people more people

910
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 4: coming back sure to the word and coming back to

911
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 4: faith because y'all are not appearing perfect.

912
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, you know, I think grow I mean,

913
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:10,440
Speaker 6: I've been in the church my whole life, so you know,

914
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 6: growing up in the church. I think that there was

915
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:16,840
Speaker 6: a premium put on not being vulnerable. There was a

916
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 6: premium put on presentation. And I think that that, you know,

917
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 6: on some level, even though it may have worked, and

918
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 6: I say that in quotation marks, I think it did

919
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 6: damage because you know, then we go through life performing

920
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 6: and presenting instead of living. And so, you know, I

921
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 6: think again, you know, I mean, I'm Pastor Sarah and

922
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 6: Pastor Terrea, my brother, and my sister, and you know,

923
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 6: known bishop for you know, almost twenty years.

924
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:40,280
Speaker 3: So that's his family.

925
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 6: And I think that there is you know, desire to

926
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,320
Speaker 6: just be truthful and to be transparent and to be

927
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 6: honest and to leave from that place and this thing

928
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 6: called life. None of us have it figured out. It's

929
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 6: an experience, even God. None of us have God figured out.

930
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:56,360
Speaker 6: God is beyond our comprehension. And so we do the

931
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 6: very best that we can do. I do the best

932
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 6: I can do to articulate concepts, and that are on

933
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 6: some level, it's how can you even.

934
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 3: Articulate who God is?

935
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 6: And do that from a place of humility, right like,

936
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 6: it's not listen, what I've learned through this experience and

937
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 6: what I've learned through you know, the divorces, Like, listen,

938
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 6: I'm not trying to get through life perfectly.

939
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 3: I just want to get through life truthfully.

940
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 5: I appreciate that because I was one of the people

941
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 5: definitely turned off by the seemingly the standard of perfection.

942
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 5: And if you feel like you're a flawed individual, which

943
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:29,400
Speaker 5: we all are, but a lot of people present like

944
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 5: they weren't, especially in the church, how could you even

945
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:35,360
Speaker 5: feel like you could be amongst those people knowing the

946
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 5: flaws you have, right, And then people in the church

947
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 5: are not admitting to anything. So we appreciate when you

948
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 5: can say I've been through this, I've done this wrong.

949
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 4: We like it.

950
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, thank you, no, And it's I think it's important,

951
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 6: and I think it's okay, right, I mean, flaws are

952
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:50,359
Speaker 6: what make the diamond valuable, and flaws are what make

953
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 6: us valuable. Flaws what make us one of one. And

954
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 6: it's okay, Like, Hey, I'm one of one and I

955
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 6: have my challenges and that's all right, Like, and I

956
00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 6: don't know that if I hadn't gone through what I've

957
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:02,400
Speaker 6: gone through, that I would have the appreciation I have

958
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 6: for me, you know, And just to say, hey, you

959
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:07,280
Speaker 6: know what, devine, Hey, you're on your journey, you're figuring

960
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 6: it out. You know, you've given yourself the grace and

961
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 6: space to heal and to process all you've been through

962
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:14,879
Speaker 6: and along the way, you know, I get a chance

963
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:17,399
Speaker 6: to share what I'm learning and for those that benefits great.

964
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 5: What do you think your biggest flaws?

965
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 3: You know what I think my biggest flaw is really

966
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 3: I tend to be very very hard on myself. Yeah,

967
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 3: you're right.

968
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 6: I mean, you know, it's just that idea of like

969
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 6: I want to do everything right, and I want to

970
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 6: do everything perfect, and you know, going back to when

971
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 6: I was a kid, like just this idea of you know,

972
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 6: achieving my way and not feeling my way and then

973
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 6: beating myself up if I didn't achieve it at a

974
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:43,759
Speaker 6: certain level or if I missed the mark or I

975
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:46,279
Speaker 6: didn't get a certain grade, and then bringing that into

976
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 6: my career. And so that's one of the flaws that

977
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 6: I work on, which is giving myself grace and space

978
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:55,320
Speaker 6: instead of talking to myself in a way that I

979
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:58,279
Speaker 6: would never allow others to talk to myself in a

980
00:38:58,360 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 6: positive way.

981
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 3: Gotcha, Hey, we're good. You're good. You're good.

982
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 4: Man.

983
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 3: Now this is all crazy, that's all I talking to myself.

984
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:05,760
Speaker 3: You're good bro, you good man. Come on man, you's up, relaxed.

985
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 3: It went the way it was supposed to go. You're

986
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 3: right where you need to be. Chill man, you cool like.

987
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 6: That's how I deal with my flaw, because that flaw

988
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 6: of criticism. You're not good enough, You're you're never.

989
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:20,840
Speaker 3: Gonna make it. You're not as good as this person.

990
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:24,880
Speaker 6: That voice in me has been one of the loudest voices,

991
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 6: and I've just been learning in this season to rewrite

992
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 6: that script for that voice so that it's more productive

993
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 6: instead of destructive.

994
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 4: My good sister, Rachel Edwards, she's actually the show runner

995
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 4: for the BT show. She was sure running for my

996
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 4: late night show. Whenever I get into my funks and

997
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:42,400
Speaker 4: I start, you know, talking bad about myself, She'll say,

998
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 4: don't talk to my friend like that.

999
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:49,399
Speaker 3: Yes, I love it, does it really really does.

1000
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 6: Don't talk to my friend like that talking about and

1001
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:54,279
Speaker 6: the idea that she would reference you and who you

1002
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 6: are as her friend. Then it makes you think, well,

1003
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:58,240
Speaker 6: am I being a friend to myself?

1004
00:39:59,080 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 3: Right?

1005
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:02,359
Speaker 6: So if this person can acknowledge what type of friend

1006
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 6: I am, can I even acknowledge the friend I am

1007
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:04,800
Speaker 6: to me.

1008
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:07,239
Speaker 5: Why why it's so hard for us to be good

1009
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:09,879
Speaker 5: to ourselves sometimes? And sometimes we're better to other people

1010
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 5: than we are to ourselves.

1011
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 6: But I think it's because we've been conditioned to not

1012
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:16,320
Speaker 6: feel good by oursel, not when I say, by ourselves.

1013
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:18,720
Speaker 6: Within ourselves, you got to go to the right school,

1014
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 6: you got to get the right job, you got to

1015
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 6: marry the right person. You gotta live in the right neighborhood,

1016
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 6: you gotta drive the right car, you got to go

1017
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:25,319
Speaker 6: to the right church.

1018
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 3: You have to be a part of the right social group.

1019
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 3: And then when you do all of this, you will

1020
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:32,439
Speaker 3: be happy. It's not true. It's not true.

1021
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:34,479
Speaker 6: So I think a lot of times we don't find

1022
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 6: that happiness within ourselves. We don't look in the mirror

1023
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 6: and love who looks back at us, and as a result,

1024
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 6: we go on this search for things that never fulfill us.

1025
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 6: Versus saying I'm gonna love me, I'm gonna like me,

1026
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 6: I'm gonna be happy regardless if I got a dollar,

1027
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 6: a million dollars, I'm gonna be happy, and I'm gonna

1028
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 6: let that happiness come through because I don't think it

1029
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:57,760
Speaker 6: takes a lot to be happy. If anything things block

1030
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:00,239
Speaker 6: our happiness, and I think the key is learning to

1031
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 6: love who we are so much and find peace in

1032
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:05,399
Speaker 6: it that we let that happiness out and we don't

1033
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 6: let any false idea block what is already natural to us,

1034
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,240
Speaker 6: which is to be happy. Babies have no problem being happy.

1035
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 6: They coming to the earth, they're happy, right like, that's

1036
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 6: the natural disbision of baby. That's what makes them so magical.

1037
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:19,359
Speaker 6: It's as we get older these things block us because

1038
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 6: we buy into these false ideas, Oh I need all

1039
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:23,879
Speaker 6: these things to be happy, and and that's just not true.

1040
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:25,879
Speaker 4: I know, you got to go. But you know, we're

1041
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 4: all born in the nineteen hundred, so it was much

1042
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 4: easier back then to give ourselves positive self talk. But

1043
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 4: now when you got social media, yep, and you got

1044
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:37,279
Speaker 4: so many people offering their opinions, when people come with

1045
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 4: these narratives, does that affect you in any way?

1046
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:40,320
Speaker 5: You know?

1047
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 6: I'm sure it does, right like you know, And I

1048
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:46,759
Speaker 6: think the thing about social is that it's a powerful tool,

1049
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 6: but it's something that has to be managed like anything else.

1050
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:52,360
Speaker 6: And so part of the management for me is you know,

1051
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:56,800
Speaker 6: taking messages in and seeing what's out there, but managing

1052
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:59,839
Speaker 6: how much time I spend there because at a lot

1053
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:01,439
Speaker 6: of times. You know, one of my good friends, Chrissy

1054
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 6: Metch she told me to saying, you know, compare and despair,

1055
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:07,399
Speaker 6: and if I'm spending too much time on social media,

1056
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 6: I indvertently find myself in comparison mode and that's just

1057
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 6: not healthy for my mental health. So I do think

1058
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 6: you can navigate social media successfully, and I just try

1059
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:18,360
Speaker 6: to manage how much time that I'm on it. And

1060
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 6: again it goes back to that voice. So if I'm

1061
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 6: seeing something and I say, wait a minute, I want

1062
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 6: that opportunity, You're why didn't that happen?

1063
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 3: Devaney right where you need to be.

1064
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:27,360
Speaker 6: You're good, It's all right, bless that person, you know

1065
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:29,360
Speaker 6: what I mean, Like instead of being like, oh I

1066
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 6: want that, that's cool, but like have a positive attitude

1067
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 6: about it. But it only comes from me because I'm

1068
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 6: not on it all the time all day and really

1069
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:40,319
Speaker 6: give myself a chance to experience it and then step

1070
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:41,319
Speaker 6: back and experience life.

1071
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, we need you to end with a prayer. Brother,

1072
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 1: Oh I would love you.

1073
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:46,360
Speaker 3: That would be amazing.

1074
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 6: Dear heavenly Father, We thank you to the Lord right

1075
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 6: now for anyone listening to this prayer, Dear Lord, we

1076
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:54,440
Speaker 6: just thank you to the Lord for Claudia, We thank

1077
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 6: you for dj Envy, we thank you for Charlemagne. First

1078
00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 6: and foremost, that you are using their voices to uplift

1079
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 6: and inspire the culture. Dear Lord, I pray right now

1080
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 6: for each of them, is they navigate this show and

1081
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 6: all the things you're bringing to them, I pray that

1082
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:08,759
Speaker 6: they would have the confidence of you and to know

1083
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:10,359
Speaker 6: that you are with them every step of the way.

1084
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 6: And I pray you would guide them and keep them

1085
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 6: in ways that they can't even imagine. I pray right

1086
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:16,360
Speaker 6: now also for anyone listening to this or watching this,

1087
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 6: this is a divine appointment. You're not watching or listening

1088
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:22,879
Speaker 6: by accident. You're watching and listening because there's a plan

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Speaker 6: and a purpose for your life. I pray that you

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Speaker 6: would have the courage and the confidence to pursue it,

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Speaker 6: even as you experience conflict. Conflict is what makes your

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Speaker 6: story great. I pray that you would know that you

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Speaker 6: are great. I pray you look in the mirror and

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Speaker 6: you love who looks back at you. I pray the

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Speaker 6: next time you pick up the phone to take a

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Speaker 6: selfie that you would pause and acknowledge the love that

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Speaker 6: looks back at you in your phone. If you're listening

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Speaker 6: to this, prayers because you're blessed, you're ordained, and you're destined,

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Speaker 6: and the name of Jesus, I pray respecting all religions.

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Speaker 3: Amen.

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Speaker 1: Amen, Yeah, you have me.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate you for joining us shore.

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Speaker 4: You check out Flaming Hot on Journey plus, June NiFe that's.

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Speaker 1: Jusy plus and Hulu that's right plus in Hulu. All right,

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Speaker 1: it's the Breakfast Club.

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Speaker 3: Good morning, Thank you, brother, thank you, appreciate you.

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Speaker 5: I almost want to be cured of my gambling problem though.

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Speaker 1: Oh wait, we just need to sit for one more

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Speaker 1: one more second. Oh yeah, all right, will keep a lock.

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Speaker 7: We got more with d von Franklin.

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Speaker 1: When we come back. It's the Breakfast Club on b ET.

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Speaker 1: Don't go anywhere. We got more with von Franklin. When

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Speaker 1: we come back. It's the Breakfast Club on b ET.

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Speaker 7: Welcome back.

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Speaker 1: Now let's get into our interview with Devon Franklin. It's

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Speaker 1: the Breakfast Club on bt.

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Speaker 4: ODO.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, let's do it.

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Speaker 1: That was great, right, call at ten?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 7: All right,