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Speaker 1: facing more sex crimes, including crimes against an underage girl.

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Speaker 1: I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. Thank you for

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Speaker 1: being with us. The so called real estate royalty Alexander

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Speaker 1: it's according to a new superseding indictment filed by Manhattan

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Speaker 1: Federal prosecutors. What is a superseding indictment? When you're arrested, Okay,

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Speaker 1: you have an indictment, which is handed down typically by

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Speaker 1: A superseding indictment may come later, which means after the

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Speaker 1: superseding indictments in the Seawan Combs Ditty case. Wow, they

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Speaker 1: the real chief brothers Oran and Tale Alexander. They're the

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Speaker 1: twins and another brother is involved as well. There's three

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Speaker 1: luxury real estate markets in New York and Miami, as

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Speaker 1: well as or in Alexander's twin alone Alexander. Now. They

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Speaker 1: what do we know about this case? Who are these

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Speaker 2: Royal brothers luxury real estate agents to the super rich.

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Speaker 2: Indicted on federal sex trafficking and battery charges. Claims go

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Speaker 1: Claims going back more than a decade? Try two decades.

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Speaker 1: Now forty women that we know of, the claiming these

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Speaker 1: back to when they were in high school. All that money,

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Speaker 3: The Alexander brothers and other men they planned the trips with,

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Speaker 3: these trips, and at times the defendants handpicked the women

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Speaker 3: Alleges that in advance of these events, the Alexander brothers

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Speaker 1: Now you know why they're calling it the new didty

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Speaker 4: Having the ability to work with my brother, to have

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Speaker 2: It's the biggest issue you have in partners shift is

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Speaker 1: Honey, you got something to worry about. Now, what if

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Speaker 1: what happened with me? An All Star panel, Let's get

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Speaker 1: to it straight out to Christina Yo joining US national

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Speaker 1: with us. I'm really curious about how much money these

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Speaker 6: You know, actually I think it started way back when

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Speaker 6: So this has been behavior that has been encouraged, perhaps

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Speaker 6: much running around town doing anything that they want, including,

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Speaker 6: according to prosecutors, drugging women raping women. Each brother has

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Speaker 6: separately been accused of at least ten rapes, ten forcible

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Speaker 1: That, hey, hey, Christina, Christina Ohio, hold on, doud, wait

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Speaker 1: a minute, we were just looking at them. Karen Stark,

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Speaker 1: why is this so hard for people to believe that

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Speaker 1: super wealthy college educated, great job, guys can commit heinous crimes.

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Speaker 1: That's what he posted on his own Facebook.

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Speaker 7: Go ahead, well, I really believe Nancy, and people see

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Speaker 7: this outward of parents. They're dressed so well, they look

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Speaker 1: Nima Ramani is joining US high profile lawyer out of

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Speaker 1: the California jurisdiction and for my purposes, former federal prosecutor,

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Speaker 1: Harvard to hashtag Nima, thank you for being with us.

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Speaker 1: Many people not familiar with our world of crime would say, hey,

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Speaker 1: why do they have to rape women? With good looks?

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Speaker 1: Of course they're not attractive to me. I think they

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Speaker 1: why rape a woman? That kind of argument has actually

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Speaker 1: worked on juries before. Nima, it has.

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Speaker 8: But Nancy, this isn't just having sex with women. We're

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Speaker 8: talking about drug induced to orgies right where multiple men,

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Speaker 5: A handsome, wealthy man, but.

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Speaker 8: Not get in a situation where they're having an orgy

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Speaker 1: Your speaking sense to me, Yes, I know that, that's

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Speaker 1: my point, Nima, I'm like two steps beyond that. Of course,

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Speaker 1: what you just said is right. What I'm saying is

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Speaker 1: it would be argued to a jury. Just look at them.

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Speaker 1: Why would they have to source women with a pr

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Speaker 5: It's not just any woman, Nancy.

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Speaker 1: They need new women every single.

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Speaker 8: Night, and they want to do things to these women

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Speaker 8: that a lot of women wouldn't consent to. Now, obviously

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Speaker 8: this is a family show, so I'm not going to

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Speaker 8: get into all that. But that's why they're using drugs

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Speaker 8: like GHP to drug these women so they can't say no.

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Speaker 5: That's what this is all about, and the tailor as

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Speaker 5: old as time, doesn't matter. If it's the Alexander Brothers.

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Speaker 1: Diddy, I can see that. I'm clearly I think you

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Speaker 1: and I have a communication problem because you're just basically

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Speaker 1: saying everything that I say. I'm Lynn Shaw helped me

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Speaker 1: out here, Founder executive director Lynn's Warriors, committed to ending

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Speaker 1: sex attacks on children and women. Lynn Shaw. I'm trying

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Speaker 1: to make the point that the argument will be made

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Speaker 1: by the state. Everything that Ramani just said, I get it.

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Speaker 1: I've read the indictment. Okay, the defense is going to

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Speaker 1: That's bs It's argued in so many rape cases.

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Speaker 9: I call them the Alexander Brothers crime family, and I

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Speaker 9: call these dirty Ditty complicit wannabes. Listen, the egos are

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Speaker 9: will unfold at some point. They want to see and

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Speaker 9: I'm here to say if this case can help us

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Speaker 9: you know, Dirty Diddy, We're hearing about Tape brothers, We're

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Speaker 9: hearing about Jeffrey Epstein, we're hearing about now these criminal

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Speaker 1: Could if it could water down eventually.

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Speaker 9: My hope is to everyday cases that are happening, that

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Speaker 9: we can educate everybody. When they offer you something like this,

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Speaker 9: their money, their egos, their homes overtaking people's common sense.

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Speaker 9: We have to do better educating the public, girls and

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Speaker 9: women about all of this.

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Speaker 1: Their family wealth has been estimated. Correct me if I'm wrong, Christina,

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Speaker 1: why joining me from Salemw's channel over one hundred and

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Speaker 6: Is the parents have offered to put up to one

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Speaker 6: out on bail. They've even offered to put them up

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Speaker 6: That's you know, guarded twenty four to seven by.

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Speaker 1: on a billion as in brother b brother billion dollar bail.

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Speaker 1: And the jail is because they don't have.

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Speaker 6: A beach, they won't have a lottery view, they won't

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Speaker 1: Bill Day, it's the ditties, It's the new ditties because

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Speaker 1: Here is a rich brat kid whining about how US

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Speaker 1: His great grandparents and grandparents and broke their backs coming

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Speaker 10: Yeah, and in this case they've actually built the business,

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Speaker 5: They now feel omnipotent.

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Speaker 10: I mean they have money, they're they're traveling with celebrities,

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Speaker 5: You know, they're selling these huge, multi multimillion dollar properties.

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Speaker 10: They're getting headlines in all kinds of media, including their

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Speaker 5: So you know, these are the paper people.

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Speaker 10: If I put a profile around them, not an FBI profile,

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Speaker 10: but I know enough of them to speak about how

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Speaker 5: Become it can become emboldened, emblazoned.

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Speaker 10: It's both feeding the ego as well as also just

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Speaker 1: Yes, what I got a superceeding indictment. I bet that's

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Speaker 1: making Nima Ramani just clench because when you see the

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Speaker 1: FEDS have a superseding indictment, this is for conspiracy to

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Speaker 1: issuing a revised, a new and improved indictment with more charges.

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Speaker 1: It supersedes the previous indictment. Yeah, they may be rolling

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Speaker 1: Who are the so called real estate Bros.

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Speaker 4: There are three Alexander brothers. Two of the brothers are

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Speaker 4: Or and Alexander are known in the world of high

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Speaker 1: Crime Stores with Nancy Grace. The so called realty Brothers,

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Speaker 1: the Alexander brothers already facing charges of sex trafficking handed

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Speaker 1: sex crimes, including against an underage girl. Now, these additional

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Speaker 1: superseding indictment, but I do know this. They represent just

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Speaker 1: the brothers use their status, their prestige, their money, their

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Speaker 1: what do we know?

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Speaker 11: In a fifteen million dollar Upper east Side townhouse, the

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Speaker 11: Celebrants are greeted by a nearly naked woman on display

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Speaker 11: with as they take turns. Dripping hot wax, the woman

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Speaker 1: Pash, what am I hearing? Wait a minute. A fifty

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Speaker 1: hot wax on her. Deja vous? Huh does this remind

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Speaker 1: you of anything? Hi diddy, there you are nothing like

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Speaker 1: in here. Well, guess what The Feds apparently in this

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Speaker 1: Southern District Omni or.

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Speaker 3: The Alexander brothers, sometimes acting alone, sometimes with each other,

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Speaker 1: Forcibly raped and assaulted the women.

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Speaker 3: As the indictment alleges that Alexander Brothers sex trafficking agreement

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Speaker 1: These assaults allegedly.

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Speaker 3: Had many of the same hallmarks as the rapes that

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Speaker 1: It's really a lot to take in. You know, very often,

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Speaker 1: five years into that kind of thinking, why ask why?

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Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. I had one job to seek the truth.

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Speaker 1: Who did, what, where, when? And why? Why not so

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Speaker 1: much to Karen Stark, renowned psychologists joining us, Karen, it's

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Speaker 1: not about sex. That's a simple answer for me. Why

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Speaker 1: don't the real estate bros with all their money and

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Speaker 1: all their high rise to just go date somebody and

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Speaker 1: have a sex life. It's not about the sex. What

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Speaker 7: It's a perversion, Nancy. They're getting off on raping, sateomizing.

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Speaker 7: A normal relationship the kind that you're referring to does

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Speaker 7: not excite them. They have gotten used to this kind

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Speaker 7: and this is what gets them excited.

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Speaker 5: Nothing else.

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Speaker 1: Talk about a wolf in sheep's clothing. These wild, extravagant

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Speaker 1: parties that cost hundreds of thousands of dollars were not

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Speaker 4: Listen, the fabulous parties with fabulous people might have been

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Speaker 4: a cover for something sinister pre planned by the Alexander brothers.

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Speaker 4: Each of the three brothers has been accused of forcible

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Speaker 4: rape by at least ten women. All three indicted on

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Speaker 4: federal charges of sex trafficking, while the twins aren't in

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Speaker 4: a lawn are charged with sexual battery and floce. The

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Speaker 1: Second verse, same as the first. Do I have to

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Speaker 1: say deja vu all over again? Why the real estate

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Speaker 1: bros Are called the new didties? Same thing now they

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Speaker 1: called it fabulous parties. Diddy calls it freakoffs.

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Speaker 3: Combs allegedly planned and controlled the sex performances, which he

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Speaker 3: called freak offs, and he often electronically recorded them.

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Speaker 1: The freak offs.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes lasted days at a time, involved multiple commercial sex workers,

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Speaker 1: To Christina Alaio, joining US investigative reporter and news anchor,

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Speaker 1: the comparison between the real estate Bros And Ditty are inescapable.

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Speaker 1: They are.

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Speaker 6: They both are basically using their power and influence to

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Speaker 1: However, the brothers have been.

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Speaker 6: Doing this I think longer than Diddy, all the way

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Speaker 6: described as being very aggressive, very bullish, very attackive when

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Speaker 6: saying that they did it in high school and people

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Speaker 6: same goes for Diddy. He has so much power and

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Speaker 6: so much money. People don't want to talk out against it.

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Speaker 6: People are scared that their careers are going to be ruined,

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Speaker 1: And I think the same is true for the Brothers

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Speaker 1: crime stories. With Nancy Grace new charges for the so

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Speaker 1: called Realty Bros. The three men have pled not guilty

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Speaker 1: to initial charges and they'll soon be back in the

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Speaker 1: Manhattan courtroom to be arranged on the superseding indictment the

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Speaker 1: new charges. It all started when they were arrested in Florida,

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Speaker 1: led to the downfall of or In. Alexander now thirty

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Speaker 1: seven tw Alexander thirty eight. Those two were the so

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Speaker 1: called real estate Royalty. In fact or an intel, Alexander

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Speaker 1: million dollar Manhattan penthouse. Wow. Then they co founded their

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Speaker 1: I guess just enough to get to catch a little

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Speaker 2: The Alexander brothers await rape charges in jail. As a

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Speaker 2: New York federal judge deems the trio flight risks, they're

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Speaker 2: extradited to the same jail as Ditty as the Metropolitan

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Speaker 2: Detention seter lose.

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Speaker 1: The Alexander Brothers is so called real estate bros rolling

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Speaker 1: in money, also called the new Ditties. All of their

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Speaker 1: trouble started, well, it really started all the way back

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Speaker 1: in high school when they're accused of sex assaulting women

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Speaker 1: all the way back then. But the current day problems

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Speaker 1: i e. Their rape charges all started when one woman out.

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Speaker 1: According to prosecutors, the rapes and sex assaults have been

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Speaker 1: going on for years and years and years until this

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Speaker 4: Listen, The Alexander Brothers fall from grace begins when the

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Speaker 4: Real Deal reports on damning lawsuits brought by alleged victims

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Speaker 4: Kay Wyman and Rebecca Mandel Wyman alleges the brothers abducted

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Speaker 4: her in twenty twelve and brought her to a Hampton's

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Speaker 4: it amazing?

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Speaker 1: Linn saw joining us in Whn's Warriors, how it only

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Speaker 9: Yeah, but we have to educate everybody that we will

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Speaker 9: give you safety, we will give you guard rails, we will.

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Speaker 1: Stand next to you.

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Speaker 9: That is what I'm hoping all of these dirty ditties

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Speaker 9: awareness again watering down to you know, maybe that team

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Speaker 9: they can come forward. We will take care of them.

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Speaker 9: But I want to point something out. There was so

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Speaker 9: much video evidence here and I want to go back

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Speaker 9: to what happened with all those videos where they uploaded

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Speaker 9: to porn sites. Was there millions of dollars? Because we

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Speaker 9: do a lot of work with this.

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Speaker 1: Wait a minute, Lynn Shaw, hold on, you're exactly right

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Speaker 1: straight out to Christina at Yo joining US news anchor

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Speaker 1: and investigative reporter. What are these so called trophies of

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Speaker 1: the real estate bros That has just have just been revealed?

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Speaker 6: Yes, well, it's one thing to have a witness testimony, right,

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Speaker 6: but it's an entirely different situation when you have video evidence.

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Speaker 6: As we just saw with the Cassie and Ditty situation.

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Speaker 6: Prosecutors and investigators rated tell Alexander's Manhattan apartment and they

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Speaker 6: found a hard drive filled with pictures and videos. They're

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Speaker 6: saying in these videos, of course, there's the quote unquote

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Speaker 6: orgys or the sessions where alleged rape is happening. They

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Speaker 6: are saying that women can be seen highly intoxicated on

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Speaker 6: alcohol or maybe even drug. They're saying they're seeing in

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Speaker 6: these videos where the brothers are physically manipulating these women's

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Speaker 6: bodies to have sex with them. And most of the time,

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Speaker 6: they're saying, these women do not know they're being recorded.

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Speaker 6: There's this one incident that they explain that a woman

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Speaker 6: and a man are having sex in a stall and

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Speaker 6: another person is recording over the stall with a camera,

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Speaker 6: and when the woman sees it, she protests, she says no.

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Speaker 6: So it's going to be pretty difficult. For whatever reason

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Speaker 6: they kept these videos or they have these videos, it's

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Speaker 6: going to be difficult to defend this in court.

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Speaker 1: Christina, you stated that one of the videos was taken

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Speaker 1: over a stall. What yep, So a.

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Speaker 6: Man and a woman were having sex. It didn't detail

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Speaker 6: if that was forced rape. It didn't detail what that

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Speaker 6: was exactly. But there is a third person who is

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Speaker 6: holding of video camera up over the bathroom stall where

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Speaker 6: the woman and man are inside of that stall having sex,

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Speaker 6: and the woman sees a camera. She tells them to stop,

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Speaker 6: and they don't stop. And that's what prosecutors are saying.

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Speaker 6: They're not listening to these women. They're manipulating their bodies,

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Speaker 6: and they won't stop when the women are asking them

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Speaker 6: to stop.

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Speaker 1: Trophies trophies to Nima Romani, joining US former federal prosecutor,

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Speaker 1: president of West Coast Trial Warriors, author of Harvard to

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Speaker 1: Hashtag's Nima Trophies have been the undoing of so Manique

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Speaker 1: criminals explained, Oh.

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Speaker 8: It's great evidence if you're a prosecutor because people can lie.

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Speaker 8: Criminal infendants lie all the time, even witnesses and victims

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Speaker 8: can sometimes lie.

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Speaker 1: But video doesn't lie.

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Speaker 8: And when you have video of these sex acts, that

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Speaker 8: is the best evidence when you're a prosecutor, because really

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Speaker 8: there's only two defenses in any sex trafficking case. Either

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Speaker 8: the sexual activity didn't happen or it was consensual. That's it.

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Speaker 8: And once you have that video, it's certainly takes away

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Speaker 8: the first defense, and then when women are being drugg

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Speaker 8: takes away the second as well. And there's really two

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Speaker 8: reasons why people record these sex acts. The first is

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Speaker 8: their own deviant sexual pleasure, and I think that's probably

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Speaker 8: why Diddy was recording his freak offs. But there's the

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Speaker 8: second reason, and that is to have control over the victims,

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Speaker 8: potentially blackmail them and say, hey, if you come after me,

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Speaker 8: I'm going to leak these videos.

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Speaker 1: Christina and Wyo. Isn't it true that these videos were

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Speaker 1: pulled off of a hard drive that was found hidden

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Speaker 1: in a closet during a federal search.

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Speaker 6: Yes, in Tall Alexander's Manhattan apartment, So they were really searching.

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Speaker 1: They had the warrant to go through everything, and he

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Speaker 1: kept them.

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Speaker 6: He kept them on a hard drive. And it's not

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Speaker 6: just videos, it's pictures as well, and it goes to

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Speaker 6: show that just like he said, men, women light witnesses

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Speaker 6: lie perhaps, but the video is not going to lie.

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Speaker 6: And this is pretty tough evidence. However, the defense is

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Speaker 6: already saying this doesn't prove anything. This doesn't prove a

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Speaker 6: commercial act. This doesn't prove that they were drugged. It

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Speaker 6: may prove that they're intoxicated, but he's saying, oh, these

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Speaker 6: are just big orgies. Everybody was willing and there is

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Speaker 6: nothing going on here, So next story, please, you know.

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Speaker 1: It reminds me. In the last few days, Shawn Combs

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Speaker 1: aka Diddi's defense team has stated they want the free

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Speaker 1: coll videos to be made public because it quote proves

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Speaker 1: his innocence. Okay, sure, you know another thing. If it's

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Speaker 1: so innocent, why was it hidden in a closet. But

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Speaker 1: thinking about the videos, the trophies pulled from a hard

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Speaker 1: drive in the real estate bro's closet, it reminds me

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Speaker 1: of a certain raid that went down on Shawn Combs's mansion.

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Speaker 1: In that case, as well, Bill Daily former FBI trophies quote.

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Speaker 1: Trophies were obtained during that raid. Bill Daily video equipment

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Speaker 1: was reportedly discovered, along with over one thousand bottles of

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Speaker 1: lubricant baby oil. Trophies have been the bane of many

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Speaker 1: criminals existence why trophy well, you.

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Speaker 10: Know, and as if you go to other kind of

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Speaker 10: repeat offenders, repeat criminals such as Dennis Raider, the bund

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Speaker 10: torture kill fiend, you know, they either keep pieces of clothing,

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Speaker 10: they keep some something to remind them, something that's going

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Speaker 10: to get them excited.

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Speaker 5: Something's going to you know.

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Speaker 10: Make them remember how how wonderful it was that they

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Speaker 10: controlled this person, that they did what they did.

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Speaker 5: And so for all these things, it's.

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Speaker 1: Some way, are you putting perfume on the pig daily,

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Speaker 1: that's not like you. The souvenirs, the trophies quote get

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Speaker 1: them excited. You may give them an erection.

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Speaker 5: Well, you know that as well as sharing among other

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Speaker 5: people being able to.

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Speaker 10: In some cases they like to share it because they've

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Speaker 10: they've had this experience with other people.

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Speaker 5: They keep it.

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Speaker 10: They look at themselves, you know, maybe other people. They

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Speaker 10: let them see that that all kind of gives them

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Speaker 10: a sense of control. It goes back to that essence

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Speaker 10: of controlling individuals, controlling their environment, doing what they want

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Speaker 10: to do, using that leverage over people. You know, in

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Speaker 10: this case, Nancy, in a very interesting point it came up,

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Speaker 10: which is simply what we've seen in other cases, is

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Speaker 10: that as the FBI is investigating this, reports are coming

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Speaker 10: out that multiple victims have.

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Speaker 5: The same stories.

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Speaker 10: Again, people who've been not connected, not there at the

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Speaker 10: same place, same time, but have the same story to tell.

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Speaker 10: All of that is exttreming and as part of what

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Speaker 10: I believe the FBI is and the US the Attorney's

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Speaker 10: Office is making their case out of is that they

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Speaker 10: have statements and it would encourage people.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm very curious, Bill Daily. I think this

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Speaker 1: goes beyond your or my kin colloquial for understanding joining

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Speaker 1: me psychologist Karen Stark. Everything Bill Daily said is correct,

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Speaker 1: But what is the reason, the mental or the psychological

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Speaker 1: reason that people like Dennis Raider or in this case,

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Speaker 1: the real estate bros also called the rape bros. But

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Speaker 1: those are just accusations. Why keep all these videos they're damning.

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Speaker 7: It's a wonderful way for them to relive the crime.

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Speaker 7: Nancy and whatever got them off when they were doing it,

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Speaker 7: whatever got them excited and gave them erections and orgasms.

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Speaker 7: They can do that all over again repeatedly because they

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Speaker 7: have these trophies. It's great if it's a video, but

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Speaker 7: it can be an airing, It could be a necklace,

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Speaker 7: it could be a piece of clothing. It doesn't matter.

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Speaker 7: They wind up reliving the excitement that they felt at

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Speaker 7: the time and how much they controlled the situation.

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Speaker 1: For years.

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Speaker 3: The Alexander brothers, sometimes with others, also arranged domestic and

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Speaker 3: international trips to carry out their sex trafficking scheme. To

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Speaker 3: recruit and induce women to come on the trips, they

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Speaker 3: provided material benefits, things like travel to vacation destinations, luxury accommodations,

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Speaker 3: and access to other high end experience.

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Speaker 1: Are the claims true? Should I believe the Real estate Bros?

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Speaker 1: Or should I believe all of the women now coming forward,

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Speaker 1: some of them named in federal indictments, others filing civil suits.

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Speaker 1: What's very hard for many people to understand, including myself,

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Speaker 1: is how the Real Estate bros. Acted, how they faked

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Speaker 1: a happy home life.

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Speaker 4: Listen, the Alexander brothers are all married now, Alahn married

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Speaker 4: Shaney Zigrin, with whom he has two children, in May

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Speaker 4: of twenty twenty. Or In married model Camilla Hanson in

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Speaker 4: April twenty twenty three, and Tall married Ariel Cogt in

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Speaker 4: October of twenty twenty three. Or In pleaded with a

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Speaker 4: judge to let him out as his wife was pregnant

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Speaker 4: and do any day. His request was denied.

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Speaker 1: That's something the baby can say as it grows up.

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Speaker 1: Dad was in jail on rape charges when I was born.

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Speaker 1: This whole facade of a happy family again, it's diddy

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Speaker 1: Rediu listen, be happy.

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Speaker 5: Two of you get on the phone.

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Speaker 1: To veteran try a lawyer, former felanty prosecutor Nima Ramani Nima.

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Speaker 1: It would not be the first time a so called

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Speaker 1: family man was ultimately convicted of repeat offenses. I mean,

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Speaker 1: there's dentist raider that Bill Dialey brought up earlier, who

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Speaker 1: would sex assault and kill so many women and including

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Speaker 1: young girls on his dog catching route the whole time.

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Speaker 1: He had a family at home and he was a

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Speaker 1: deacon in the church. Uh, then you've gotten Gaysey John

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Speaker 1: Wayne Gacy, who would go to children's birthday parties to

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Speaker 1: entertain the children dressed as a clown. I don't know

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Speaker 1: how many boy's bodies were pulled out of his crawl space.

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Speaker 1: Then you got Ted Bundy, who seemingly was a successful

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Speaker 1: law school student. He's a serial killer. He goes on

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Speaker 1: and on, and do I have to say Rex Huerman,

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Speaker 1: the eight hundred pound gorilla in the room, the architect

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Speaker 1: by day, serial killer by night, with a wife and

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Speaker 1: two children.

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Speaker 8: Nancy and Human's wife actually saw some of these sex acts,

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Speaker 8: at least allegedly, so this question of what she knew,

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Speaker 8: But this is criminal defense lawyering one on one. They

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Speaker 8: want to show the jurors that the defendant has family support.

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Speaker 8: That's why you see Ditty's family at every single appearance.

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Speaker 8: That's why I fully expect the Alexander brothers to have

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Speaker 8: their parents, the wives who haven't filed divorce to be

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Speaker 8: at those court proceedings, because that's what jurors expect. They

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Speaker 8: want to see the family members supporting the folks who

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Speaker 8: are accused and are on trap.

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Speaker 1: And like Didty, the new Ditties have a fantastical scheme

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Speaker 1: of how they're going to stay out of MDC Metropolitan

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Speaker 1: Detention Center.

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Speaker 4: Listen, in a crazy bid to keep their boys out

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Speaker 4: of incarceration, the parents of the Alexander brothers have offered

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Speaker 4: to provide private imprisonment. In a real proposal to authorities,

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Speaker 4: Shlomo and Orly Alexander proposed confining the brothers to a

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Speaker 4: two bedroom apartment on the eighth floor of a Miami building,

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Speaker 4: emphasizing the apartment is non waterfront and non luxury. They

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Speaker 4: promised security guards would be stationed around the clock and

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Speaker 4: an alarm system would make sure the brothers remain on site.

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Speaker 4: The parents also offered to put up to one billion

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Speaker 4: dollars bail for their sons to get out of jail.

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Speaker 1: In case you didn't get that, it's one billion as

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Speaker 1: in brother biz in brother, not million billion. The parents

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Speaker 1: offering to put up one billion dollars cash to get

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Speaker 1: their sons out of jail. Maybe they were going to

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Speaker 1: put in some equity into that, but one billion dollars

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Speaker 1: bail to get their sons out and having them imprisoned

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Speaker 1: in a Miami high rise. And the suffering part was

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Speaker 1: that they wouldn't get a beach front view ouch. That

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Speaker 1: has to hurt. How dare you mommy and daddy Christina, Yo,

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Speaker 1: it's reminiscent of the last bid, well the last three

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Speaker 1: bids by Sean Combs to get out on bid where

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Speaker 1: he offered the judge a multimillion dollar bill package I

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Speaker 1: think it was twenty mel and he would stay in

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Speaker 1: a Manhattan town home with his own private security guards

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Speaker 1: to keep him from raping people. Eerie echo, right, And

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Speaker 1: that's the draw, right exactly.

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Speaker 6: I promised not to rape anybody during this time. I

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Speaker 6: promised that I'm not going to have any orgies.

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Speaker 1: In fact, I.

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Speaker 6: Won't even have any women over so that in and

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Speaker 6: of itself is a huge punishment. This is the same

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Speaker 6: thing that we're seeing with these brothers, And quite frankly,

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Speaker 6: I don't know how much the pay parents can be

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Speaker 6: trusted in this whole situation because we talk about pretending

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Speaker 6: to have a perfect family. But I go back to

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Speaker 6: the sex bus that was sitting outside of their forty

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Speaker 6: million dollar home as the brothers were in high school,

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Speaker 6: and people have said witness testimony, they are saying that

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Speaker 6: back in those days that women in the scene in

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Speaker 6: the Miami scene because for some reason high school brothers

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Speaker 6: were in the Miami scene. They were warned not to

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Speaker 6: drink any drinks that came from the brothers and to

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Speaker 6: stay away from the brothers.

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Speaker 11: The Alexander brothers are accused of using their wealth and

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Speaker 11: positions to create and facilitate opportunities to rape and sexually

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Speaker 11: assault women. So far, more than forty women have come

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Speaker 11: forward accusing the three Alexander brothers of sexual misconducts, and

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Speaker 11: investigators are asking other women who believe they have been

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Speaker 11: assaulted to call. Attorneys for the brothers say they plan

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Speaker 11: to plead not guilty to the charges, which, if convicted,

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Speaker 11: could lend all three brothers in prison for life.

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Speaker 1: As we are discussing these alleged acts, sex assault, right sodomies,

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Speaker 1: that's what we're saying. Reportedly date all the way back

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Speaker 1: to when the real estate brose were in high school.

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Speaker 12: Listen as news of the arrests start to spread, stories

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Speaker 12: from the Alexander brothers high school years come to light.

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Speaker 12: Their history of sexual violence dates back decades to their

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Speaker 12: high school days in Miami, where they bragged about several

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Speaker 12: gang rapes. Prosecutors say each of the victims that the

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Speaker 12: government has interviewed from this period reported hearing that individuals involved,

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Speaker 12: including Tal Alexander, talked about the assaults at school boasting

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Speaker 12: about running train on their victims and saying they wanted

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Speaker 12: to do it again.

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Speaker 1: You know, Lynn Shaw, as many rape and sodomy cases

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Speaker 1: that I've investigated, I have tried, have pled out to

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Speaker 1: jail time, have covered, it's still it's disgusting. It just

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Speaker 1: makes something and you want to die to hear about

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Speaker 1: them bragging about quote running train on the victims, which

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Speaker 1: means multiple rapists on one victim, saying they quote wanted

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Speaker 1: to do it again. It never ceases to be heartbreaking

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Speaker 1: that a victim would go through this.

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Speaker 9: Well, we can't die, Nancy. We have to stand for

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Speaker 9: those that don't have a voice. And I want us

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Speaker 9: to focus on two things here. I want us to

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Speaker 9: focus on where was mama Alexander. We're talking about a

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Speaker 9: sex bus when these trio of triplets, dirty ditty triplets

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Speaker 9: were right part right in front of their multimillion dollar mansion.

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Speaker 9: I'm telling you, as a mother, I knew when my

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Speaker 9: kids moved a throw pillow on my couch. Where were

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Speaker 9: the parents at this time and throughout all of this?

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Speaker 9: The second thing I want to and we have to

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Speaker 9: talk about that because people have to start standing up.

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Speaker 9: Where were these parents? They were the talk of the town.

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Speaker 9: We're hearing, you know, in the Miami, Florida area, So we.

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Speaker 1: Should focus on that.

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Speaker 9: I also want to focus on you're not going to

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Speaker 9: see their wives in court with them. Those women are

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Speaker 9: taking their kids and running for the hills. One is

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Speaker 9: already filed for divorce. Okay, they're going to turn evidence

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Speaker 9: on them. They're beautiful young women, they have some young children,

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Speaker 9: a newborn baby. They're not sticking around for this. And

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Speaker 9: the third thing I want to get back to we're

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Speaker 9: not talking enough about is that oldest brother with his

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Speaker 9: security firm. There is video evidence. Where are all those

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Speaker 9: videos going? I guarantee, I hope we have a forensic

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Speaker 9: accountant coming along. That they have been uploaded not only

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Speaker 9: to control their victims and to scare them, they have

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Speaker 9: been uploaded to porn sites where these monsters make millions

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Speaker 9: and millions of.

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Speaker 1: Dollars across the globe. And these are things we should

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Speaker 1: be looking at. Of course, the parents aren't charged with anything.

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Speaker 1: All three Realty Bros. Are being held in a federal

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Speaker 1: detention center in Brooklyn waiting trial. The judge Valerie E.

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Speaker 1: Caproni has set the trial for January. Now two of

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Speaker 1: them or in an alaon. Alexander also face state six

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Speaker 1: trafficking charges in Florida. Everybody has pled not guilty. Now

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Speaker 1: the defense attorneys all claim these new charges quote changes nothing,

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Speaker 1: calling it a reheated version of the same case. Okay, wait,

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Speaker 1: let Jerry years about an underage girl getting sex trafficked. Okay,

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Speaker 1: that's on you. We wait as justice un false. Goodbye friend,