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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is the Player's Lounge,

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Speaker 1: All right, here we are Players Lounge. It's a little delayed,

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Speaker 1: but but it's okay. We had our we had a

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Speaker 1: mojo moment, but we're all good. We got a mojo

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Speaker 1: moment here. We lost that mojo moment. That was definitely

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Speaker 1: our Mojoe moment for a week right there. All right,

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Speaker 1: Players Lounge bought you by Hotels dot Com. New We Scruggs,

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Speaker 1: longtime Cowboys reporter, joined by two four Dallas Cowboys safeties,

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Speaker 1: Barry Church and Danny mc cray. And yes, we've got

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Speaker 1: to hit up hard knocks as HBO's outstanding series made

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Speaker 1: its debut of the Cowboys Episode one last night on HBO.

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Speaker 1: The Mojo moment was the thing that I was glad

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Speaker 1: they got inside to understand show us what Mike McCarthy

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Speaker 1: you heard it, you didn't kind of know what it was.

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Speaker 1: He explained it a little bit, but it was better

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Speaker 1: to see exactly how it all unfolded. So, gentlemen, right

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Speaker 1: out of the gate, I'm gonna start with you, Danny McCrae,

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Speaker 1: what was your thought to the way Mike McCarthy was

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Speaker 1: portrayed in Hard Knocks? Okay? I thought she's about to

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Speaker 1: ask about the Mojo moment because not sure if it

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Speaker 1: hit the way that he thought it was as I

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Speaker 1: watched it. But you know, listen, whatever whatever you need

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Speaker 1: to do to get your team hype and helped them

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Speaker 1: understand the situation that you're trying to put them in

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Speaker 1: to make them better, well, you know, whatever you gotta do,

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Speaker 1: you gotta do it. I mean, this is what I

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Speaker 1: said was going to happen to coach McCarthy once he

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Speaker 1: got on this TV show. It was going to show

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Speaker 1: that he is not really doing much if really, the

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Speaker 1: only thing you could say that he did on that

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Speaker 1: show was come up with the Mojo moment. Other than that,

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Speaker 1: it showed that him and Dak might not be as

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Speaker 1: Special Teams Coach More having more of a personality with

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Speaker 1: his players. They showed Jerry and then the rest of

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Speaker 1: that one, you know, it really didn't didn't show much. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: to me, it kind of came off. The mojo moment

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Speaker 1: came off as it's just kind of gimmicky, just a

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Speaker 1: Hard Knocks when when Gruton was up there talking about

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Speaker 1: this little situational thing. Is it like a stretch of

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Speaker 1: Like how does each mojo moment you know, break down

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Speaker 1: Like all right, it's it's awesome, powers time, it's mojo,

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Speaker 1: It's mojo. Get your mojo whatever. Ready, let's go on

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Speaker 1: this field for this one play, Like, like, how does

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Speaker 1: that sequence of events. Yeah, he'll tell you exactly the

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Speaker 1: But I'm like, man, that place should have been dead.

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Speaker 1: we still got time. We got time for another sequence,

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Speaker 1: so long because this mojole moment, I can't let it die. Okay, No,

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Speaker 1: Let's just get straight to it. Thumbs upper, thumb down

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Speaker 1: You know, I do love Austin Powers. I just don't

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Speaker 1: will start right here. I am not sold on Mike McCarthy. Okay,

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Speaker 1: last year, I gotta see it. I'm just not sold. Now.

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Speaker 1: and he's catching him. Amari Cooper is still a guy

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Speaker 1: Dak Prescott trusts, and I think that matters, And I

427
00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:39,200
Speaker 1: don't think we talk about that enough. Nineteen is a

428
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Speaker 1: dude that he's been trusting with. So you take nineteen

429
00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:44,320
Speaker 1: eighty eight, two guys he can trust, you play twenty

430
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Speaker 1: one and the way you need to do and get

431
00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:47,960
Speaker 1: him some touches here. I don't see how Gallup is

432
00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:49,800
Speaker 1: really going to be able to get these balls that

433
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Speaker 1: he wants to. When people talk about this guy's gonna

434
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Speaker 1: sign some deal next year for a thirteen or fourteen

435
00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:56,520
Speaker 1: million dollars and he's gonna be a number one somewhere,

436
00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:58,760
Speaker 1: How are you going to be a number one somewhere

437
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Speaker 1: when you can't even get to be really be at

438
00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:03,320
Speaker 1: two If both guys are healthy in this offense and

439
00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:06,600
Speaker 1: you're probably the fourth or fifth option depending on who

440
00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:09,400
Speaker 1: you play and how this game plan is going. Yeah,

441
00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:12,400
Speaker 1: and to me, it's gonna come down to whether Gallup

442
00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:15,639
Speaker 1: is the ultimate you know, team guy, whether he's you

443
00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:19,440
Speaker 1: know it's in a contract year, he has an opportunity

444
00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:22,960
Speaker 1: to make that Dennis Shrewder before he got that up,

445
00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:26,000
Speaker 1: he got an opportunity to make those those big bucks.

446
00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:28,639
Speaker 1: So yeah, I had to throw that shooter in there.

447
00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:30,879
Speaker 1: I had to do it. It was one of the

448
00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:33,360
Speaker 1: biggest gaffs I think I've ever seen when it came

449
00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:36,239
Speaker 1: to negotiating and making money. You pass up eighty four,

450
00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:40,680
Speaker 1: you're left with five. But anyways, Gallup, I think I

451
00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:43,160
Speaker 1: think if he listens out to to to the media

452
00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:44,760
Speaker 1: people like if he listens to guys like us out here,

453
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Speaker 1: I think it's gonna start getting to him and I

454
00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:48,720
Speaker 1: think it might affect the room. But you know, hey,

455
00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:51,520
Speaker 1: we'll see where it goes. Money money changes minds a lot.

456
00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:53,640
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be fine. He's not a number

457
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Speaker 1: one receiver, definitely not. Not not at this point of

458
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Speaker 1: his career. He's not. If he makes some improvements and

459
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Speaker 1: and he he's able to get some more balls thrown

460
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Speaker 1: as way, he makes some more spectacular catches than maybe.

461
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Speaker 1: But I think he just needs to settle into the

462
00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:09,280
Speaker 1: road that he's been playing. Ceedee Lamb was the first

463
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Speaker 1: round pick last year. He came on the scene. He

464
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Speaker 1: got he got, he got a lot of a lot

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Speaker 1: of looks. Mary Cooper is going to give a lot

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Speaker 1: of looks, and Gallup is going to get the spectacular plays,

467
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Speaker 1: and they're going to give him the opportunity to go

468
00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:23,719
Speaker 1: down there and make those thirty and forty yard catches.

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Speaker 1: We'll see, we shall see. I'll give you an example.

470
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Speaker 1: I'll give you an example of a great trio. And

471
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Speaker 1: you guys may remember it. A guy named Jake Reid

472
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Speaker 1: who's a North Texas resident. Jake Reid played on some

473
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Speaker 1: great Vikings teams with Randy Moss and Chris Carter. Jake

474
00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:45,800
Speaker 1: was a really good football player, but he just wasn't

475
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Speaker 1: those two guys. And obviously he's not those two guys,

476
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Speaker 1: because those two guys are Hall of famers. I'm not

477
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Speaker 1: calling Cooper, not calling Lamb hall of famers, but I

478
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Speaker 1: believe that you're talking about guys who are a step

479
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Speaker 1: above Michael Gallant. And I think Michael Gallant maybe an

480
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Speaker 1: a different off in someplace. Maybe he can become a one,

481
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Speaker 1: but I just don't see him getting a thousand yards

482
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Speaker 1: or having to be this big option like they're talking

483
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Speaker 1: about here. Twenty one looks good fellas Okay, he really

484
00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:14,640
Speaker 1: does look good. And the screen game I saw. If

485
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Speaker 1: this offensive line is healthy and there, and if they

486
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Speaker 1: can get this screen game out there, and then some

487
00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:21,159
Speaker 1: of the routes they have him running, twenty one is

488
00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,399
Speaker 1: gonna be something to deal with. Okay, that's where I

489
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,320
Speaker 1: just don't see gout getting getting his love. They put

490
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Speaker 1: him on him cover to me, you guys, so that's nice.

491
00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:30,960
Speaker 1: You know they're trying. They're trying to make them feel good,

492
00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:34,200
Speaker 1: but there's just too many mouths to feed. If this

493
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Speaker 1: offense is doing everything that we believe it can be

494
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Speaker 1: and live up to, I mean, don't tell you right now.

495
00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:45,000
Speaker 1: Blake Jarwin looks nice. He looks nice, and for some

496
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Speaker 1: reason there's no animosity or in between he and Dalta

497
00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:50,679
Speaker 1: Schultz at all their buddies. They're trying to push each

498
00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:52,880
Speaker 1: other here, and Dalta's Schultz is not trying to sit

499
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Speaker 1: up here. Just give this thing away to Blake Jarwin.

500
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Speaker 1: He's look good as too. So you're killing Moore man.

501
00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,400
Speaker 1: You've got options. We ain't even talk about twenty Pollard here, guys,

502
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:05,240
Speaker 1: not even talked about Stop it, Neui, stop it. He

503
00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,880
Speaker 1: does not need too many options Okay, we already talked

504
00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,600
Speaker 1: about what Listen, we talked about this before. Dak had

505
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:13,360
Speaker 1: to show the string, go into these first games, run

506
00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:15,960
Speaker 1: the ball, and then you know, let these other options

507
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,480
Speaker 1: feed off whatever Zeke does. He don't need too many things,

508
00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:20,720
Speaker 1: too many people to focus on. Hey man, let's get

509
00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:22,560
Speaker 1: jar one. Let's make sure we take care of shows

510
00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:24,800
Speaker 1: because he did do something for us last year. Oh yeah,

511
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:27,200
Speaker 1: we gotta fit Tony Pollitt and then somewhere and also

512
00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:29,720
Speaker 1: don't let Michael Galli get too upsets, so make sure

513
00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:32,000
Speaker 1: let's not let's not do that. Okay, you said twenty

514
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:35,480
Speaker 1: one looks great. Focus the offensive around twenty one each

515
00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,800
Speaker 1: Dak back into it, and Coop and UH and and

516
00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:41,600
Speaker 1: CD will get their touches. And then you know, Michael

517
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:43,920
Speaker 1: gallup when we need that that we got that third

518
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:49,480
Speaker 1: and twenty toust the ball, tom My man, Michael galler Man,

519
00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:51,000
Speaker 1: let him go out there for the play. Look, I

520
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:53,520
Speaker 1: think we can all agree that it's a good problem

521
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:56,040
Speaker 1: for the Cowboys that have all these you know, options,

522
00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:58,400
Speaker 1: and that you know, it's gonna be hard for defenses

523
00:24:58,400 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 1: to match up with them because they have so many

524
00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:02,400
Speaker 1: miss match nightmares out there. Tight end wherever she running back,

525
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 1: you call it, they got the mismatch forward. But I

526
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:06,240
Speaker 1: want to pivot a little bit, just a little bit

527
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:08,280
Speaker 1: right here, because knew what you were there at practice,

528
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:11,040
Speaker 1: You were there when the Rams came to town. How

529
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 1: did the big hog Molly's up front? How did those

530
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:18,240
Speaker 1: giants in the trenches? How did they look out there

531
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Speaker 1: against a vaunted Rams rush? I mean, you got Aaron Donald,

532
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:22,960
Speaker 1: you got Lennon Floyd out there. If you got some

533
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 1: guys that can get after the pass rushing or can

534
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:27,200
Speaker 1: get after the quarterback. So to me, how did those

535
00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:30,600
Speaker 1: big boys look once the Rams got Oh? I did

536
00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:32,720
Speaker 1: see that it was a great takedown on Aaron Donald. Yeah,

537
00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:34,879
Speaker 1: he had good for him. But if you continue to

538
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,880
Speaker 1: look at it, Aaron Donald jumped on him real quick afterwards.

539
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,119
Speaker 1: And if his boys ain't hop in, I don't know.

540
00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 1: But you know, how did they look out there to do? Yeah?

541
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Speaker 1: They look okay? So so Church, you're telling on yourself

542
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:52,000
Speaker 1: because clearly you didn't watch any of my reporting. I

543
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:56,119
Speaker 1: want you to explain to the to the audience. I was,

544
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Speaker 1: I was. I was at the Pro Football Hall of

545
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Speaker 1: Fame and Canton, Ohio sad today and Sunday for for

546
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 1: for for the speeches. So I didn't see what I

547
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 1: can't see. So here's what I did say though, And

548
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,640
Speaker 1: this was absolutely the craziest thing and why Jerry Jones

549
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 1: is truly the man. So at the Pro Football Hall

550
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:17,600
Speaker 1: of Fame Stadium, they had a whole locker room they

551
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 1: converted into the Cowboys Club full of food, all you

552
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:29,520
Speaker 1: can drink, TVs solfas. So I'm sitting next to Clarence

553
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 1: Hill and Jerry Jones. Jerry Jones somehow had the feed

554
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 1: of the scrimmage piped into the locker room where we're

555
00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 1: watching this at this Cowboys Club waiting on Cliff Harris

556
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:46,040
Speaker 1: and Jimmy Johnson and get their speeches. And so we're

557
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 1: just asking Jerry about stuff we're seeing and it isn't

558
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 1: I mean, first off, I'm like, how in the world

559
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:54,680
Speaker 1: did Jerry get this thing pumped in here? But he did.

560
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:58,280
Speaker 1: So we watched it from there, and Jerry candidate made

561
00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:00,160
Speaker 1: a play out there. He was big on him, saw

562
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 1: a little bit of the fight. Um, Jerry didn't comment

563
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:04,959
Speaker 1: on that at all. And and so I didn't get

564
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 1: to see the scrimmage to ask you answer your question.

565
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:11,480
Speaker 1: But Jerry. Jerry was a fan of what he saw

566
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:13,879
Speaker 1: a little bit that he saw there by the way

567
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,120
Speaker 1: that Matthew Stafford could sling it, My gosh, that kid's

568
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:21,200
Speaker 1: got an arm. Yeah, and we had back Yeah after

569
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 1: watching the backup quarterbacks that I saw an ox star

570
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,119
Speaker 1: when that went down to see Matthew Staffords, it was

571
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 1: just like, oh, oh, my gosh, like that, that's a

572
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 1: wicked throat. So I didn't. I did not get to

573
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 1: see how how they stacked up against the Rams. So

574
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 1: I didn't because I was hanging next to Jerry and

575
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:42,160
Speaker 1: uh enjoying, uh, enjoying everything at the Cowboys Club before

576
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,680
Speaker 1: we walked out there and uh watched some speeches. It

577
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,639
Speaker 1: was good stuff. Man. Was that rollo with Jerry is

578
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:49,920
Speaker 1: a good thing? Was that was that McDonald's on U

579
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:53,120
Speaker 1: hard nuts last night? Was he eating the McDonald's saying

580
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 1: would you when he was in his office with a mcgriddle?

581
00:27:55,560 --> 00:28:00,879
Speaker 1: Oh not No, that was something from the hotel hotel,

582
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 1: all right, that's what I said. Somebody told me it was.

583
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 1: I don't know. Well, the way you did watch you know,

584
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:08,879
Speaker 1: like the rest of like the rest of us, you

585
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 1: did watch the Hall of Fame game you did. You

586
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 1: didn't get a chance to go see the Hall of

587
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,360
Speaker 1: Fame game, So I gotta I gotta know what your

588
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:20,359
Speaker 1: what's your early thoughts on one are first round draft

589
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:24,679
Speaker 1: picked Parsons? And two what you think about those backup

590
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:27,919
Speaker 1: quarterbacks that uh we talked about here on the Players

591
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 1: Lounge last week? So let me let me know your

592
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 1: thoughts on those. One, Michael Parsons was drafted too low, Okay,

593
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 1: I can't believe they are eleven football players better than

594
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 1: Michael Parsons. In fact, he told me said I should

595
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 1: have gone top five. So that's my first take on

596
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 1: Michael Parsons. I think if you're a Cowboy fan, you're

597
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 1: going to be happy if this kid stays healthy. He

598
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 1: has the desire, the right frame of mind sets. Kind

599
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 1: of talking to him in cd Land, these are two

600
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 1: guys who both really want to be very good in

601
00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 1: their careers. And as far as the Hall of Fame

602
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 1: game goes with the quarterbacks, I'll just maintain what I

603
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 1: said before right now on the players round too, the

604
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 1: backup quarterback for this football team is not on this roster.

605
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 1: In my opinion, many y'all gonna do that, Dan, let

606
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 1: me hear what you think about exactly? We had three points. Okay,

607
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 1: my man, your man Double G had he had a

608
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 1: decent drive and the other than that it was nothing.

609
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 1: It was nothing. I don't I don't like what I saw.

610
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 1: And if they're you know, knocking on wood, this is

611
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 1: just whatever. If Dak has to miss any time, I

612
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 1: am not confident in what we have as the backup

613
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 1: right now to be able to hold it together until

614
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 1: he until he returns. Well before I go in on

615
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 1: Double G here, what do you think about Parsons and

616
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 1: his ability out there for a couple of series, we

617
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 1: did see him at the Hall of Fan game. Man,

618
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 1: it's crazy because it's gonna sound like it's a knock

619
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 1: on Jalen. But I was like, this is what I

620
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 1: thought when Jalen returned to his former self how he

621
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 1: was in college. I was like, this is this is

622
00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 1: how Jalen's gonna look. Right. The dude looks fast, does

623
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 1: he looks agile. He looks like he can get around blocks.

624
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 1: He's running past guys who are trying to block him.

625
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 1: He's chasing down, giving effort on every play, and he's

626
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 1: just high energy. Dude. The dude looks if he figures

627
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 1: it out and he knows where he's supposed to be

628
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 1: when he's supposed to be there, and he's able to

629
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 1: play fast and free, Oh he's gonna be nice. Somebody's

630
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 1: spot is getting taken, and somebody's spot is getting taken

631
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 1: for sure, you count that out. Somebody's off the field

632
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 1: for sure. Well, my thoughts on on on Parsons man like, Look,

633
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 1: if this guy can stay healthy through seventeen games, if

634
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 1: he can stay healthy, I think the sky's limit for

635
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 1: this kid. I mean you can even though we have

636
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 1: a small sample size so far of him. He flashed,

637
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 1: he popped off the tape. I mean you can you

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Speaker 1: can feel his speed on the game film, and he

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00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 1: sideline the sideline. He was just there, and so I think,

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Speaker 1: you know, even though it's early, it's really early, you know,

641
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 1: small sample size. I do think this guy can be special,

642
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Speaker 1: and I do think that he can be a huge

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00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 1: reason to why you know, this cowboy's defense makes a

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00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 1: turnaround in twenty one. But back to my boy Double G.

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Speaker 1: All Right, y'all was over here talking all types of

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00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 1: stuff about Double G. Last last last time we were

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00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 1: on the players, and I was still were still talking,

648
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 1: still talking about and I was with y'all a little

649
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 1: bit because it was nervous. I heard the reports out

650
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 1: of practice, and I was a little bit nervous for him.

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00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 1: But like I said, man, this guy is a gamer,

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00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 1: all right. Some guys show up the practice and they

653
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 1: practice well. Some guys come up to the game and

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00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 1: they just play well in the game. And I think

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Speaker 1: DOUBLEG is one of those gamers. I mean, we saw

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Speaker 1: what he was able to do against the Steelers, the

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00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 1: undefeated Steelers at the time. And look, I mean that's

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00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 1: all we got right now. Double G as the Steelers

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00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 1: and in this preseason game, and y'all can't tell me

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00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 1: through this preseason game, nui, Danny, y'all can't tell me

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00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 1: Double G didn't look like he had some pocket presents

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00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 1: back there. He was putting the ball where only his

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00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:43,959
Speaker 1: receivers could catch it, and he was letting them run

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Speaker 1: with it afterwards. It was the Hall of Fame game, yes,

665
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 1: and he was playing with who he could play with.

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00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 1: The guy was out well. I mean, if he's out

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00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 1: back on the quarterback, then he should have been looking great.

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00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 1: If he looks like that behind that offensive line, just

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00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 1: imagine Zach Martin Tyren Smith like l Collins zeke in

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Speaker 1: the backfield, that's what that's re receiver. That's what me

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00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 1: and new He telling you, Bro, we don't want to

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00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 1: imagine that that tenfolds which but if it were to happen,

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00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 1: Double can do a stay back there. He has a game.

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Speaker 1: I remember when when Dak was having his contracts talk,

675
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 1: contract talks. Uh, my man Church was over here kind

676
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 1: of putting it out there that that Double G might

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00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 1: be able to step in and and and then he

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00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 1: went down to justin fields. But you knew Double G.

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00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 1: You have some real confidence and Double G just like

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00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 1: you had in the Nucci before you saw y'all saw

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00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:43,479
Speaker 1: the Duci out there that even here getting brought up

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00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 1: on the show right now, Double he is a game.

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00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 1: I'm telling you this guy's a game. I'm not saying

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Speaker 1: he's not a gamer. We just saying knew he. Like

685
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 1: I agree with Newy our backup quarterback who we need

686
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 1: to depend on if something goes wrong, it's not on

687
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,959
Speaker 1: the roster and that includes Double GN. What you think, NW,

688
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 1: what you think? Yeah, the Nuci is getting cut so

689
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 1: and let you know that right now he's gonna get

690
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 1: cut and maybe maybe they bring it back on the

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00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 1: practice squad at this point time. Unless Cooper Rush turns around,

692
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 1: he'll get cut too. And I think they'll keep two quarterbacks.

693
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:16,479
Speaker 1: They'll keep Dak and they'll kick. They'll kick. Garrett Gilbert

694
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 1: and Will McClay will be out there looking. But that's

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Speaker 1: just how I see, just based off one preseason game

696
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 1: and and and what I've seen so far. So we'll see. Um. Looky,

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, man, I know you like I know you

698
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 1: like Garret Gilbert. I like he's a nice guy, a

699
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 1: nice guy. It's a nice young man. But you know,

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00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, man, I'm sorry. I mean all like to

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Speaker 1: quote the great Bill Parcels. All I can go by

702
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Speaker 1: is what I see. I saw three points at the

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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. I was falling asleep in the fourth quarter. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I was falling asleep the press box in the fourth Quarterback. Wait,

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Speaker 1: I saw. Okay, what I saw between Dan Quinn, Mike

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Speaker 1: we've talked about this on the Players Lounge the last

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Speaker 1: time and I want to come back to it. After

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Speaker 1: walk all the way back, then we see him playing

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Speaker 1: Then they ended up taking them out after they felt

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Speaker 1: like they saw enough of him because Mike McCarthy said, Hey,

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Speaker 1: I wanted to get guys some playing time and Kenton,

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00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:38,799
Speaker 1: scrimmage on Saturday. So fellas based on that walk, based

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00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 1: on what you've seen so far, what kind of plans

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00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 1: do you think the Cowboys have from Micah Parsons at linebacker?

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00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:50,359
Speaker 1: They have the usual, the usual plans for their high

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00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 1: first round pick. I remember, I believe was it it

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00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 1: was Mo Clayborne who came in, and you know, they

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00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:59,760
Speaker 1: had two solidified starters that were here already. Those starters

781
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 1: were the upset and they were making sure putting in

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Speaker 1: all the extra time that they could to make sure

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Speaker 1: that Mogat caught up to speed so he was ready

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00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 1: to play in that first regular season game. So it

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00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 1: feels very similar, very similar to that, and that's why

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00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:17,879
Speaker 1: I believe that somebody's spot is going to get taken.

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00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:19,360
Speaker 1: I don't believe that he's going to be taking a

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00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 1: lot of Randy Gregory's reps over rushing off the edge.

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Speaker 1: So it's gonna be vander Esh or it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: Jalen Smith who's losing out on some of those nickel reps. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and I'm right there with you on that. When you

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Speaker 1: see you know, the defensive corder, not the position coach,

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00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 1: not the linebacker, the defensive coordinator, you know, walking them

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Speaker 1: with the first round pick up and down the field

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00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 1: after practice as if I'm in you know, Vanderesh, or

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Speaker 1: if I'm in Smiths shoes, I'm sitting there like all right, man,

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00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:45,359
Speaker 1: one of us is up out of here. Or because

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00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:46,840
Speaker 1: they I don't think they got in the room to

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Speaker 1: keep all three and even if they do, somebody's reps

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00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 1: is getting taken. I mean you already seen it the

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00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:54,759
Speaker 1: writings on the wall when they were in that preseason game.

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00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 1: You know, all three of them want to feel that

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Speaker 1: at some point, but then sometimes it was just you know,

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00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 1: Vanderesh and Parsons, and then sometimes it was just Smith

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00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 1: and um Parsons. So he's eating into regardless of whatever happens.

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Speaker 1: Whatever whatever happens is far but weak one he's eating

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00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:12,319
Speaker 1: into somebody's reps, whether it be Gregory off the edge

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00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 1: one of these linebackers. And if he keeps making plays

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00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 1: and being around the ball like we saw in that

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00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,880
Speaker 1: in that Steelers preseason game, I mean he might take

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Speaker 1: them off, you know. So it's gonna definitely gonna be tough.

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00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 1: But if I'm looking at that and seeing him walk

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Speaker 1: up and down the field with the coach and they're

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Speaker 1: doing everything that they can to make this guy special

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Speaker 1: and make this guy be able to be on the

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00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 1: field as much as he can. So that's that's what

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00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 1: that's what that is. That's all that is. And watch

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Speaker 1: the relationship between Dan Quinn and Michael Parsons versus a

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00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 1: relationship you see between Mike McCarthy and Dak right. But

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Speaker 1: dan Quinn calls Michael Parson, Hey, man, come to the phone.

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Speaker 1: Hey who is this? He this DQ? Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm saying, you know what you're doing wrong? Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: gotta play outside. All right, that's cool. Now we don't

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00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:56,319
Speaker 1: let you go back in the game and you're gonna

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00:39:56,400 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 1: chill out peace, phone up. That was good. So you

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Speaker 1: know that they're they're getting close and he has their

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Speaker 1: respect for dan Quinn knowing that he's going to put

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Speaker 1: him in the right position, and he trusts that when

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Speaker 1: I'm expecting to see big things out of him, you know. Unfortunately,

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847
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Speaker 1: a max deal. And I'm thinking to myself, way, you've

848
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:11,479
Speaker 1: never averaged a double double in anything in your NBA career,

849
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 1: and somebody's offering you seventy three million. You're about to

850
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 1: hold out because you want more, and wait, here's more food.

851
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,400
Speaker 1: Came to training camp out of shape, came to training

852
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 1: camp out of shape, turning out seventy three million dollars,

853
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:25,799
Speaker 1: and so they made him play it out. First of all,

854
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:28,359
Speaker 1: he fired his agent because he thought that the agent

855
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 1: should have got him a backs contract. So he fired

856
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 1: the agent, picked up Lebron's guy. Lebron's guy called the

857
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 1: Maps and they were like, yeah, man, we're not about

858
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 1: to pay him anymore. We've come to our senses. He

859
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:42,400
Speaker 1: played out the year. In the next season, he signed

860
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 1: a two year contract, which was basically one plus one

861
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 1: with a player option with the Oklahoma City for two

862
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:52,279
Speaker 1: million dollars. I mean, you hate to see it, and

863
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 1: it's just like, man, I don't understand, I don't understand

864
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 1: like these But then again, I so you can see

865
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 1: like you got your like shrewder. He's seeing some of

866
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 1: his peers making hundreds of millions of dollars and he's like, well,

867
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 1: I'm as good as him, or I'm as good as

868
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 1: Chris Paul. I can I can go out there and

869
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 1: get you know, just as much money as they do,

870
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 1: and you end up fumbling an eighty four million dollar bag.

871
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:17,360
Speaker 1: Like I don't understand it. You need the right in

872
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 1: your ear telling you the truth about what you are here,

873
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 1: what your work right, Because if you're telling yourself, then

874
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:26,880
Speaker 1: you think you Chris Paul, You think that you Steph Curry,

875
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 1: that you find to get two hundred meals. You know

876
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. If you're just if you're the only

877
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:34,800
Speaker 1: person around that can tell you something that that you

878
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:36,800
Speaker 1: know that has some validity, I will say, this is

879
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:39,759
Speaker 1: another shocking thing that I saw. I'm not even sure

880
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 1: how long a good has happened, but my man, uh,

881
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:47,319
Speaker 1: Joe Looney goes to New York. He's there for one day,

882
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:50,280
Speaker 1: you know. He I think they had to run sprints

883
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 1: or something, you know what they got out there and

884
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 1: he's like, look, let me tell you something. My body,

885
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 1: my body is not gonna let me perform at that,

886
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,400
Speaker 1: you know, at the at the rate that I that

887
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 1: I thought it was so peace Joe was about. I

888
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 1: was like, oh man, I ain't signed up for none

889
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 1: of this be a backup anyways. Nah, I'm about of here, man,

890
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 1: And I tell y'all, the grass is not always greater

891
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:18,360
Speaker 1: side like the Cowboy everybody thinks, you know, and everything's

892
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 1: just like the Dallas Cowboys organization, and I'm telling you,

893
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:22,840
Speaker 1: I'm here to tell you it is not all right.

894
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 1: It is nowhere near the level that the Dallas Cowboys

895
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 1: organization is. So be wearing all those young free agents

896
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:32,280
Speaker 1: out there, y'all cats, the grass is always not greener.

897
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 1: On the other side, I'm seking that I can second

898
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:40,439
Speaker 1: bet and I broke my ass right back right, Coach,

899
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 1: you got something, whatever you gott I'll take it to

900
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 1: get me out of here. Well, keep your mind. It

901
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:54,880
Speaker 1: was like maybe three or four giants, who quick, man,

902
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 1: I'm good about not about this life, man, not about

903
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 1: this life. So um, that's that's kind of funny because

904
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:03,919
Speaker 1: apparently they still have yet to give out the number

905
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 1: seventy three with the Cowboys, so maybe maybe Joe could unretire,

906
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 1: I don't know, make some type of trade something. Anyway,

907
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 1: it was it was hilarious to to see that the

908
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:16,840
Speaker 1: Giants and Joe Judge out here running guys off and

909
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 1: who knows what kind of you're they're gonna have, because well,

910
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:26,880
Speaker 1: let me ask a question real quick, what makes y'all think, Well,

911
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:30,399
Speaker 1: what y'all think makes these players, these veteran players. You're

912
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 1: already in the camp, you already did OTA's mini camp,

913
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:36,399
Speaker 1: You're in the training camp right now. What makes you think, Well,

914
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:38,439
Speaker 1: what makes those players think all right, well I'm gonna

915
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:40,280
Speaker 1: wait all the way into the last minute to retire.

916
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 1: Like you don't think they had these thoughts you know

917
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 1: in OTAs in mini camp, Like I wonder what you

918
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:46,279
Speaker 1: know goes through their thoughts to where at training camp

919
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:48,279
Speaker 1: they're just like, you know what, it's over. Yeah, I

920
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 1: don't know why why Joe would do that, because I

921
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 1: know that him and j G would have had to

922
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 1: have some type of conversation to get him to come in.

923
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:56,759
Speaker 1: And my thing is, no matter who it is, JG

924
00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 1: or not, I'm just like, hey, man, you agree to

925
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:01,360
Speaker 1: this as a a man's and say, hey, this is

926
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 1: what I want to do. I'm gonna come in and

927
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 1: this is what I agree to for one day. Yeah,

928
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 1: you know, like one day I see you're having a

929
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 1: bad season, you know, like my boy was my man,

930
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 1: say man, I ain't going back out at the bad time,

931
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 1: you know, like I'm staying in the locker room, you know.

932
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:18,239
Speaker 1: But he went through the season and he was having

933
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 1: whatever thoughts or whatever. My land Joe was there for

934
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:24,880
Speaker 1: twenty four hours. It wasn't like he was there, you know,

935
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:26,719
Speaker 1: through all OTA's mini camp and then you know how

936
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 1: I got that long break before camp. He was with

937
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 1: his family and he was like, you know what, I

938
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 1: just can't do it now. He was he was just

939
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 1: there for one day. Just don't come on. Yeah, I

940
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 1: don't understand that at all, man, at all. All right,

941
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:40,800
Speaker 1: here's my thought, and this is just my thought that

942
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 1: Jason convinced him. You know, he's been talking to him

943
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 1: and talking to him and talked to him and then

944
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 1: convinced him and he went up there and he got

945
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:49,800
Speaker 1: a taste of him. Now I'm gonna go right on

946
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 1: back here to grape Vine, Texas and uh lived the

947
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 1: rest of my life. I'm good. I don't need this.

948
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 1: And I remember talking to Bart Scott once. Bart told

949
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 1: me the reason he didn't go back and play. At

950
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 1: the end, he said, man, they were offering a million,

951
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 1: two million dollars and he said, after taxes for everything

952
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 1: that I gotta put my body through. Is it worth that?

953
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:12,400
Speaker 1: He said, no, it's not. It's like, you know, my

954
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:15,840
Speaker 1: body's worth more than a half million dollars. Yeah, and

955
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 1: you know, and then or a million when you consider

956
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 1: just everything else. And he talked about I have to

957
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 1: move to a different place. My family's not going to

958
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:26,880
Speaker 1: be here and around me, and he just at the

959
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 1: end of the day, for him, he said it wasn't

960
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 1: going to be worth the cost. And if a team

961
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 1: wanted to meet his number to come play, he said

962
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 1: he drew it. Team never met his number, so he

963
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 1: decided to retire and he got into broadcasting. That was

964
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:39,399
Speaker 1: just a smart move. I mean, like like you said,

965
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 1: after you go through to everybody looks at that that

966
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:43,920
Speaker 1: that big number that jumps out all. He signed a

967
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 1: one year from you know, three million dollars or something

968
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:48,880
Speaker 1: like that after taxes, depending on where you're playing. That

969
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:50,919
Speaker 1: let's just say you're playing in New York Man after

970
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 1: the taxes, and you know, after you got to pay

971
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 1: taxes in each place you play in, and agent fees

972
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 1: and all that and probabe costs of living and on

973
00:46:57,239 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 1: us stuff, it dwindles extremely fast. So you know, I

974
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:03,400
Speaker 1: definitely can can believe when these older guys move on

975
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 1: at the last you know, last couple of years of

976
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 1: their career and they start thinking, you know, is it

977
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 1: is it worth? You know, they say three million, but

978
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 1: it's really gonna be around one point five one point one?

979
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 1: Is it really worth putting my body, you know, through

980
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 1: six months of hell for that and leaving my family

981
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 1: because a lot of these cats got you know, kids,

982
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 1: and kids start in school and you're missing out a

983
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 1: lot of that. So I guess that also has to

984
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:23,720
Speaker 1: go into it with these veteran guys. But I always

985
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:25,879
Speaker 1: never understood, you know, why go in at the last

986
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:28,359
Speaker 1: minute and then just retire right before the season. Never

987
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:33,279
Speaker 1: understood it for me. Well, But I also go into this,

988
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 1: and you guys know it well because now you both

989
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:40,319
Speaker 1: have children. Is when you're away from your family, all

990
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 1: the things that you put on your wife to handle,

991
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:46,319
Speaker 1: that's true. And if you've got small kids, that's a lot.

992
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 1: And if you're someplace you really don't want to be.

993
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 1: And if you're doing any in like Barry, you had

994
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 1: secure the bag. So if you secure the bag, then

995
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:56,719
Speaker 1: that's where you decide to say, man, is it really

996
00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:58,800
Speaker 1: worth it. And that's where bart was. Barted secure the

997
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 1: bag from the jet. So it was kind of thinging, man,

998
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 1: I don't have to do it for this. And I

999
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 1: don't know about you, Barry, but you know, for a

1000
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 1: guy like bart he thought about, hey, how many more

1001
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:12,319
Speaker 1: hits to my putting all my body and how much

1002
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 1: of the how many of those hits could result into

1003
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:18,719
Speaker 1: some longer term damage for my health and safety, and

1004
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 1: he just felt for that money it wasn't worth it.

1005
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:23,359
Speaker 1: Maybe you felt the same way when you just signed there. Yeah,

1006
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:25,319
Speaker 1: I'm right there with bart On that one. I had

1007
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:28,239
Speaker 1: offers from Seattle, offers from Washington once I was done

1008
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:30,800
Speaker 1: with the Jacksonville. But when you start thinking about it

1009
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:32,759
Speaker 1: and you know you gotta move, like you said, you

1010
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:35,279
Speaker 1: gotta move, and after taxes and all that stuff, and

1011
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:37,359
Speaker 1: then your body, your body's talking to you as well.

1012
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:38,880
Speaker 1: I mean there's days I get out of bed and

1013
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:41,359
Speaker 1: for no reason, my toes are hurting, my ankles are hurt,

1014
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:43,239
Speaker 1: and I'm like, man, what, And then you get to

1015
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:45,399
Speaker 1: the practice facility and you're like, how am I gonna

1016
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 1: get through this practice? Like one of my my body

1017
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:50,919
Speaker 1: is hurting and it talks to you after a while,

1018
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:52,839
Speaker 1: and then that's when a lot of guys, you know, say,

1019
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 1: you know what, money ain't even worth it. I'm gonna

1020
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 1: go ahead and call it a career. And then there's

1021
00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 1: some guys that go ahead and keep playing. And then

1022
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:00,279
Speaker 1: next thing, you know, those guys, you know, as they

1023
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 1: get older, they have health problems. So definitely got to

1024
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 1: look out for your body. That's the number one thing

1025
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 1: when you're doing this NFL thing as a career. Man,

1026
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 1: it's definitely a tough, tough career. Hey, that's the players Lounge.

1027
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:15,440
Speaker 1: We appreciate everybody being patient with us as we had

1028
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:18,920
Speaker 1: our mojo moments try to make this thing go. But

1029
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 1: we got it done. We got it done thanks to

1030
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:24,640
Speaker 1: everybody here Dallas Cowboys dot Com behind the scenes and

1031
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:27,279
Speaker 1: making sure that this thing works for us. Danny Barry,

1032
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:30,720
Speaker 1: let's do it again here, everybody else, keep all watching

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